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What's up everybody welcome into vision pros
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live with Willie Blake today coach Willie Blake
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helps high performance individuals that are dyslexic
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in particular for people who have minds that
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work different like mine as well and the neurodivergent
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people out there that we just think differently
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and so many people can't see What it is we're
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trying to communicate and then sometimes we might
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doubt ourselves and feel like we're a little
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bit crazy or Delusional and maybe we've been
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called that before I have by people who are pretty
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close to me and so it can be a challenge to then
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know like how do you how do you have confidence
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in yourself and how do you move forward and make
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things happen? We haven't always had thousands
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and thousands of followers on this show. In fact,
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we spent years with less than 400 followers.
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years with that. And as we continued to build
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up, we had 2500 interviews at that point. And
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there's a lot of imposter syndrome that can hit
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you. There's a lot of challenges that can make
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you second guess yourself and make you think,
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you know what, um, maybe I'm not doing what I'm
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supposed to be doing or how to do it. And so
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we've got one of my favorite people here today,
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coach Willie Blake. I met him several months
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ago now, and we have spent so many hours together
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over the last, uh, last three to four months
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that I've also brought him into the fold as much
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as possible at first class business. And we're
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going to keep trying to do that because I really,
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really like this guy. I love the way that he
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communicates. Love the way that he teaches and
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he's got some superpowers. So welcome back to
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vision pros live and welcome to your own live
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episode. Willie honors mine. Thanks for having
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me. Absolutely, man. So let's start right in
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first. I did my best to kind of pull that together
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from my own ADHD view. Right. What what would
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you say your vision is? My vision is to be able
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to help the neurodivergent people of the world
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like I grew up dyslexic ever since the first
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grade and I just Like you said our brains are
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just wired differently some little mechanism
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or neurons in there just hit little different
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so the neurotypical Systems that a lot of people
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use don't fit neurodivergent people whether it's
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dyslexic ADHD OCD autism. There's a vast variety
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And it comes down to let's figure out what works
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for each individual. And I think that's a more
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universal principle than just neurodivergence.
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But let's see, let's find out what works for
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you as the person and then build a system off
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that rather than trying to fit into this wonderful
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mold of what sometimes society likes to put us
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into. I love that. Well, speaking of the mold,
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you and I had a debate about this the first time
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we met where I was like, I don't want to get
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diagnosed. I don't really trust the doctor to
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diagnose me. Well, I'm not ADHD technically,
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or ADD, or neurodivergent, but if you spend 30
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minutes with me, it's pretty obvious there's
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something going on. And with that something going
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on, I felt like I have greater powers not worrying
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about it and feeling like, oh my gosh, I'm X,
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so now I'm limited because everybody else says
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I am. And so with that reality, How do we create
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more awareness for approaching, serving people
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well that may think differently without accidentally
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creating a hypochondriac that's worried at all
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times about, oh, well, I can't fit in because
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of X, Y, or Z. I know there's not a magic solution,
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perhaps, but maybe you have it. Yeah, maybe.
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We'll see what we come up with. Like from my
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experience, there's the difference between being
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diagnosed and then the label in which we then
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carry afterwards. Cause like true diagnosis,
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you go to a doctor, doctor does their tests,
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they write it on a sheet and then either refer
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it out to a more specialist or if they can do
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it themselves and they're expert in it, then
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they go and tackle it. Like that's where the
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diagnosed part comes in and it's to help you
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get more information to know what's going on.
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So then you can make better choices afterwards.
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But where I see some people go to, which is they
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get the diagnosis, but then they use it as a
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label. They say, I am dyslexic or I have this
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type of cancer or I have miscarriage. Or their
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family does. I know like my wife, she's a type
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one diabetic and love how she's been with being
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an example of just always plowing through. But
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I know also some other type one diabetics who
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aren't that way. They're just like, I can't do
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what everyone else can because I'm type one.
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And I'm like, no, not really. Like my wife's
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able to do it. And yes, she's a superhuman in
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herself. But then there's also many other ones
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that are out there doing it. And you just, you
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just got to test your blood sugar and stuff.
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And that's some of the what I've learned over
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the last couple years, because when I first met
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my wife, didn't know jack squat about it. But
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that's what it is. It's the diagnosis and labeling.
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So I asked myself that question with my dyslexia.
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And I also have OCD and a little bit of ADHD.
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I said, Am I using dyslexia as this label of
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I'm dyslexic, I'm different, I, and because of
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it, people should like me more. That's the label
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I put. on the diagnosis side that was done in
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the first grade and that came on the sheet of
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different things and audio processing disorder,
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which is part of my dyslexia. Then I could internalize
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and it took me several years to go from that
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label of I'm important and different because
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of said thing and now I'm able to understand
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myself. So it's that difference between diagnostic
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and label and so I don't think there's a perfect
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answer and like how to go about it but I definitely
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know that one of the things that tends to not
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work very well is Holding it as a label and kind
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of a victims mentality per se I Really appreciate
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that and I love that that people like yourself
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And myself, we see it as a superpower. We need
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to be able to transition our mind if we're going
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to escape that victimhood. And I want to highlight
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a few vision pros out there. One of the things
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that really drew me about Willie was his website.
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His website's very clean. It was very easy for
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me to understand what he did before I met him.
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And so if you're building a vision, I also want
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to help you realize that with AI, one of the
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best things AI is good at doing is code, by the
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way, because it is code. And that would help
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you a lot. But I was looking through his site
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before I met him and looking at these different
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testimonials that he has, I was like, dang, these
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people really value what he's been able to do.
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And while most of them are professionals and
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not business owners, at least from what I could
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gather, that doesn't mean that they're lesser
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than. In fact, they're just as important as the
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business owners out there. But what I really
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caught was the power of their genuine support
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and gratitude. for how Billy how Willie went
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about coaching and helping them in their lives.
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We might want to talk about one or two of those
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stories because they did fascinate me before
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we jump into the story, though. Yeah, you said
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something to me in our pre show about how the
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the individuals like once we turn 18, it's like
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people forget about the whole like, oh, this
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person may have dyslexia or this person may struggle
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with one of these. One of these realities of
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neurodivergence and beyond then as you said that
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I didn't feel guilty. I felt Well, well put I
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was like, yeah. No, I don't think about that
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when it comes to adults at all You know, I just
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see an adult as an adult And I do try to serve
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people one -on -one But I think you gave me like
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yet another lever to be able to realize another
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empathy piece another compassion piece of like
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ah, this may also be something that they're dealing
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with. I've never heard an adult besides you and
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Dr. Danny Purcell say out loud, I'm dyslexic.
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Nobody talks about it once you're in adulthood.
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Feel free to go into story time with one or two
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of these individuals, or feel free to run with
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the torch of what we just talked about. The one
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story that comes up is one of my clients, James,
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when we first met two years ago. It was at a
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networking event. And walked in, beautiful room,
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silicone slopes around Salt Lake City, Utah.
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Walked in and James was just one of the other
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people networking there. And as I was going through
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the room and he was going through the room, we
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finally met with each other. He's like, and I
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asked him like, hey, James, what do you do? And
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he does a lot with military arms and guns and
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the belief and. defense type stuff for our nation.
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And he says, well, what do you do? And I said,
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oh, I work with a lot of dyslexic adults. And
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he's like, are you serious? And he like leaned
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in close and he said, I'm dyslexic too. And I'm
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like, and to respect his like trying to keep
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it secret, but also the enthusiasm I have for
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it. I'm just like, dude, you got to say it out
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loud. You got to be excited about it because
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it's a part of it. And we had such a great conversation
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Afterwards it was about a year's gap before we
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got reconnected and he sent me a text He said
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hey Willie. I was thinking about you It was really
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cool Just how open you were about being dyslexic
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because it feels like that was just a big hidden
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Elephant that was in the room that I don't want
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to talk to people about Can we meet for a call?
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And I'm like, dude, it is so good to hear from
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you. Absolutely. Let's jump on a call. And dude,
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if we're around each other, let's go grab lunch.
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And I remember him sending me a screenshot. And
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on that screenshot, it said, it was the contact
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for me. And it said, Willie Blake, dyslexic something.
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That's all I knew. He's like, dyslexic something.
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But that's the part that stood out. He didn't
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care about what I did or coaching or anything
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like that at the time. It was just like that
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dyslexia part was this instant connection for
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him because there's someone out there who has
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embraced it and sharing it. Jackson, like you
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said, there's not many people out there who are
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doing that, but I think that is a conversation
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that should be held quite a bit, because that
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magical number of 18, right there, you hit 18,
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and all of a sudden all the resources you get
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as a child and as a teenager, and as you go into
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college and life, poof, magic, bad magic wand.
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Magic dark wand. Yeah, magic dark wand. All this
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money is just gone. It's just gone. And of course,
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like corporations have their own neurodivergent
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programs, but then it goes back to how I felt
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in high school to where I had the resources.
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But during the middle of a test, I'd walk up
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to the front of the classroom and I'd tell the
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teacher I need more time. And so then the kids
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behind me would be like, well, why does Willie
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get more time? Hmm. Why is he so special? So
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either they'll think of me as a special kid and
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be like, Oh, Willie, we got to take care of him.
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Or the whole flip side of I don't like this kid.
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I don't want to hang out with him. So keep running.
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Keep running with that. Yeah. So it's either
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go into the front of the classroom and get the
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help you need but everyone else is judging you
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from it or What I mostly did, which was sit at
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my desk, take the allotted time for the test,
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and if I didn't finish, I didn't finish. And
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that's the grade I got. Ooh, that's rough. that
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it teaches you certain things about life. Of
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course, all of our adversities can help us become
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that much stronger and everything else that we
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do. We're going to come back. We're going to
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talk about another couple of stories too related
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to if you're dyslexic or you're neurodivergent.
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I love that you lead with your openness, Willie,
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and that story is super powerful because I can
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see you speaking in front of an audience of a
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thousand people sharing that openly and that
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alone. being something that turns the key to
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open the door for the people who feel stuck with
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this. So we'll come back. We'll talk about more
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and how as a high performance individual, too,
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I really think all of our minds work incredibly
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differently. And if we're not looking at how
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do we tap into that from different angles and
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different perspectives that we may not have heard
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before, then we're missing out on an opportunity.
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We're also going to talk about businesses and
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business coaching and how this dyslexic coaching
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process has also led willing to be one of the
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business coaches that I trust most in life. We're
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going to be talking about that right when we
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come back. We'll see you on the other side. All
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right. Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson
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Callum. I'm your show host. We'll be doing interviews
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for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders
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who are building fantastic visions out there.
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Hey my friends, what's up and welcome to Inovision
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Pros Live. I am flying without a co -pilot today.
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My team, I was debating whether I was going to
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say this out loud or not, but my team, most of
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them live in Paredes, Colombia. And Paredes was
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the epicenter, was where the earthquake hit just
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a few days ago. I ask that your thoughts and
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prayers are with them. The great news is all
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of my team members and their family members are
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safe. We have one former team member who we haven't
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heard from and we're trying to get in contact
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with them, but we can come together as a community
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and do what we can to potentially help these
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individuals live. So as you join me on this moment
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of. non -silence, this moment of walkthrough
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from Jackson. I would really like for you to
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understand that these people are phenomenal people
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who have incredible families and their communities
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have incredible needs as well. This one picture
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represents a lot of what their beautiful city.
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um now has been turned down to and we're putting
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uh updates on here as well so you can see and
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learn more again i don't want to distract too
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much from our opportunity to help all of you
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but we've been so blessed over the last 24 hours
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to have uh people donate and we've got you know
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with this 1650 of our five thousand five hundred
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dollar goal um if you are in a position to where
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even you can you can put a dollar towards us
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um by all means please uh Please go find me on
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social media and you'll find plenty of statuses
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where I'm talking about the opportunity to help
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out with this coming back centered. We've got
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growing your own as well with rich Ashton. As
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I've spent my life and I still spend it looking
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for more leaders to surround myself with people
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who can teach me and help me see how to improve
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my vision and how to help others catch the reality
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of what it is that we're up to. And Rich Ashton
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is one of the best, best leaders that I've been
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able to put by my side. I recommend his book.
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I recommend always reaching out to the authors
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of books and engagement directly, especially
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if you're a business owner. There's so much wisdom
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you can learn from his decades of experience
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and Up here, there's also the AI marketplace.
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And the AI marketplace is where we teach authentic
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intelligence in addition to artificial intelligence.
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And we have a grant program. So if you can't
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afford to be one of the founding members in that
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process, there's a button right there to click
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and become and to get your application finished
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and to become a free grant recipient. We don't
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want anybody left behind in the new world of
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AI. There's just too many amazing things, superpowers
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that we've been able to gain as human beings.
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by using these tools. If we use them while you
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can use it to ruin your life, you can use it
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to bless your life. The difference is knowing
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how to use those tools and also having the right
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intent with that process as well. The water project,
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I won't forget it either. Well, Parade is going
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through a lot and there's incredible devastation
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and reasons why we could get back there if we
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can extend ourselves a little bit further. My
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other hope is don't extend yourself financially.
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If you're in a financial position where that
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feels stressful, Share the message that doesn't
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cost any of us more than you know five minutes
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of time but i would recommend over lunch talk
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about with friends and family and look at some
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things and just see what type of. Spirit that
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that fills you with the water project to their
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millions of people who don't have access to clean
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drinking water and so we are so privileged to
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talk on a podcast or to listen to a podcast for
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in that that's on the week and five minutes even
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if that means leaving the show right now. and
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using the time you're going to listen to this
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to help others please do that there are millions
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of people who need help and the water project
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is one of the most transparent organizations
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in the planet they you if you donate to a specific
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cause specific community for instance for their
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whole well they teach you how they build it and
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you get to see that project come to fruition
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my friends got eight billion people in this world
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to help so if you know of other projects you
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like to see me involved don't hesitate. to put
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the invitation right back in front of me and
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say, Jackson, I would like you to see this project
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and see what you can do to help. I will personally
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take a look at it if you drop that in the comments.
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So without further ado, we do want to get back
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to helping all of you with your growth and your
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vision and understanding the great visionaries
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that are out there because we can model what
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they're up to. So we're going to look at a young
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professional. uh builder and coach willy blake
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what he's done to help dyslexic community and
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how that's going to translate to also help him
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in the world of business coaching where i cannot
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find business coaches that are great very very
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rarely i talk to a lot of coaches on here y 'all
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know that and i hire them as life coaches or
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i recommend them as other elements but the the
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asset the aspect of business coaching is so unique
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and so different and requires different disciplines
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and different um commitments to understanding
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what somebody is going through that most people
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aren't capable of it. I believe highly in coach
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Willie Blake for this. I've been bringing him
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on first class business to help us with our business
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coaching aspects. And he actually coaches me
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more than you guys even realize. He probably
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realizes. Coach Willie, welcome back to Vision
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Pros Live. Let's dive into business coaching.
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All right. Sounds great. How do you want to start
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off? Well, my first question for you is what
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do you think makes a great business coach. We're
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going to break this down from a couple angles.
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We'll debate about it back and forth as well.
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So why is it that I don't trust 99 % of business
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coaches from what you've learned from our conversations?
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I think the very first thing was the aspect of
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humility that came up and I'm not talking you
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showed it to me. We're not talking the Google
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Translate one of humility of seeing yourself
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as weaker than. In yourselves in a position that
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other people are on a pedestal but true humility
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as it goes to biblical times where it goes into
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we are capable and we have the confidence just
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like The model of humility of Christ who he led
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the streets and he did miracles and if he Was
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so humble but yet could still talk to the people
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who are just like yeah, I think this is dude's
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crazy I think this person, like the Pharisees
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and Sadducees, I think he's going off and doing
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these things, and he's not who he says he is.
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But then Jesus would rebuke them and say, do
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better. Do better with what you're doing. That's
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not a person who thinks of other people on a
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pedestal. That's someone who is very confident
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within himself, knows what he's saying. You saw
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my thunder just now, and you know how happy I
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am about that? You know how happy I am? I don't
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have to be the one to bring the thunder today.
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Thank you. You know, like the thunder lightning
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we'll see, but thunder we both got. My point
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with that too is like, this is me exercising
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humility, my friends. And this is where the world
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says, wow. um you know someone's got full of
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humility today and and they misinterpret the
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reality that humility and confidence go hand
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in hand so my my favorite humility experience
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ever probably was when I was in potato with my
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team and they were teaching and I was sipping
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on a juice box in the corner I felt like a kid
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I was I was just sipping on this juice box like
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happy like my team's teaching all the things
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that I pour my heart and so on to and toss it
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and I was just relaxing like wow They're doing
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a phenomenal. Oh, wow. She did that better than
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I do. Sweet. This is so much fun. So yes, I love
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that you brought it back up and that humility,
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a great coach, does not have this sense of self
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-deprecation or this sense of like, oh, I don't
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really know for sure, or a fear of the power
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of others. So thank you. Keep going. You're on
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a roll. Yeah. Let's talk about the opposite of
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humility. I'm down. Green apple for me. Let's
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talk about the flip side of it too, which the
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opposite of humility is pride. Pride what a lot
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of people think of just as ego, but it's not.
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It's also the bad side of competition. It's also
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jealousy that goes into pride because when you
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think of other people better than yourself, that's
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a very inward thing because you are telling yourself,
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that you aren't at the level of somebody else.
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I'm going to bridge a little gap real quick to
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any business owner here that says I already have
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a coach. You were working with a coach that struggles
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with humility and you and they might even realize
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it and they may not realize they boxed you in
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that every every great business coach works with
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the team of the business owner. That should be
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a big clue. If your coach has never talked to
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your team, has never engaged them, or is not
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proactively trying to engage with them to understand
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your business and what you're doing, they have
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no idea what they're doing. It might be a great
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human being. They are not a great coach. And
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it goes back to this pride aspect. There's a
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lot of hidden pride. There's a lot of hidden
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ego that exists in these realities. Again, continue
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down your course. And it goes with also the persona
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that people carry themselves. That you have,
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you have to have this certain persona or character
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that you, a lot of times when I talk to people
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that like they feel overwhelmed, they feel like
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they can't do it. And usually it's comparison
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to other people or sometimes comparison to themselves
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to where they have to present themselves in such
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a way that it impresses someone else. So if it's
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investors, you have to present yourself more
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professional and well -knowing. If it's someone
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like your client, you got to hold yourself to
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a different pedestal. If you're with your friends
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and family, you can let easy a little bit more
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and you might have a little bit more fun, but
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it still might not be entirely you. So we change
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the way in which we hold ourselves to other people.
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And I think that can be very dangerous because
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it comes back to that pride aspect of I have
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to hold myself to this degree. And like we talked
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about earlier with labels, I have to keep myself
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at this label, which then harms us because then
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if we're trying to grow and if we're trying to
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move and do new things and sometimes like what
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first class business does, where they are, they
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go into the cockpit and they're just like, no,
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go away, go back to first class, go network and
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go do what they need to do, what you need to
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do as an entrepreneur. They can't do that. They
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can't do things messy again. They can't make
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mistakes. They feel like they can't be able to
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do those new things without being seen as weak.
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But the true leaders out there, at least the
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ones that I've noticed who have this part of
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dropping your pride and have humility, they're
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the ones who are continuously in the trenches
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and aren't afraid to talk about it. Yeah. I love
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that. And that it takes me back to what we've
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we've discussed, but perhaps audience haven't
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heard this. My first startup was invested in
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by Paul Buckeye, the investor of Gmail, Matt
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Cutts, the search director of Google. I was the
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first sales rep hired by this company. And Matt
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Cutts, the search director of Google, taught
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us that a true sign of an expert is not somebody
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who knows it all, but is the person who is willing
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to go get the answer. And he admitted he said,
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guys, I don't know everything about SEO as a
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director. of SEO for Google, like he didn't know
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everything. And that was kind of shocking to
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us. But he's like, and then he revealed, he said,
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I've got over a thousand people who work on this
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algorithm every single day and they try to improve
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it. How would I know what they did today or yesterday?
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You know, unless I go ask. So if you guys have
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a burning question or need to know something,
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don't hesitate to ask. I will be the professional,
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the expert who goes and gets the answer and you
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can do the same. And I was so happy because I
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didn't have a degree. And I didn't feel like
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I was trying to figure out how to be a professional
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and understand things. But before he unlocked
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that path for me, I felt very inferior to the
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other individuals who had degrees and had studied
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more, apparently. No, we're still the same age.
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It's how many hours you fly the plane, not how
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long you've been a pilot anyway. So the reality
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is everybody out there who doesn't have a degree
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And who feels like you know what i don't know
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as much as so and so this is your golden gate
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and opportunity to realize that. You don't need
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to know everything you just need to be willing
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to go get the answer and if you're able to do
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that you're already ahead of what i don't know
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how what percent but i'm out of the world coaches
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i can tell you first hand that out of over a
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thousand coaches less than five percent of them
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are willing to set their ego aside enough. to
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go get the answer from something other than their
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internal source that they feel is the power of
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truth and the internal source of like my ego,
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my mind, my heart. I am not the source of all
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wisdom. I need to be willing to go get it from
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elsewhere and study things out. So what else
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would you add? Willie, there's there's so many.
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How is a business owner or a visionary? How do
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I go about finding? those mentors, those leaders,
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or those coaches, those team members that are
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going to be the types of people who are going
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to help me create clarity of my vision and build
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it out. This is such a hard subject, guys, to
00:26:30.269 --> 00:26:31.690
think through the right question and to think
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through the answers. This is not easy, so I'm
00:26:34.049 --> 00:26:36.430
putting Willie in a very hard spot right now.
00:26:38.109 --> 00:26:41.410
I don't know the exact answer of the person who's
00:26:41.410 --> 00:26:46.690
listening to be able to do. But what's what has
00:26:46.690 --> 00:26:49.730
worked for me is to get off the couch and start
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talking to people Like go on LinkedIn and comment
00:26:54.009 --> 00:26:56.289
on someone else's post that really resonated
00:26:56.289 --> 00:26:59.150
with you because they're out there doing something
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to go outside of the house literally and Talk
00:27:04.049 --> 00:27:06.470
to the neighbors and while I'm at the grocery
00:27:06.470 --> 00:27:10.619
store say hi to the people that are around Being
00:27:10.619 --> 00:27:14.339
able to just open my mouth and have a conversation
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with people. I think that's very lost these days
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I think as we get into more social media and
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:21.680
it's just used to the key though. I said a key
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:23.900
that can be easily overlooked I've got a I got
00:27:23.900 --> 00:27:26.519
to hit it because you use the word resonated
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:31.900
and So you you're correct that the conversations
00:27:31.900 --> 00:27:34.259
in general are a bit lost but in the business
00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:36.480
owner world we I think a lot of people try to
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:40.000
talk to everybody and anybody and you end up
00:27:39.769 --> 00:27:42.349
putting the square peg in the round hole, um,
00:27:42.730 --> 00:27:44.950
one accident and it doesn't work out very well.
00:27:45.369 --> 00:27:49.109
Whereas if I am selective, you know, I'm going
00:27:49.109 --> 00:27:51.769
to wait patiently and like fishing, I'm not just
00:27:51.769 --> 00:27:54.170
going to try to like grab every fish in the water.
00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:56.430
I'm going to, I'm going to put my pull out there
00:27:56.430 --> 00:27:59.349
and I'm going to be patient with it. If people
00:27:59.349 --> 00:28:01.970
don't do that, they risk running into and building
00:28:01.970 --> 00:28:04.349
relationships with people who can manipulate,
00:28:04.589 --> 00:28:08.299
coerce, distract, confuse them. Um, but That
00:28:08.299 --> 00:28:10.980
that essence of resonating i'd call it somebody
00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:14.500
intrigues tracks and inspires me you know then
00:28:14.500 --> 00:28:16.660
that's the type of person that i need to latch
00:28:16.660 --> 00:28:19.480
onto so that's me and willy right now like your
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:21.779
opportunity is to reach out to social media and
00:28:21.779 --> 00:28:24.299
say hey. I like what you guys talk about you
00:28:24.299 --> 00:28:26.160
know can you can you mentor me can you help me
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.500
out through things there's so many people who
00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:30.339
hide and they go my gosh jackson was a company
00:28:30.339 --> 00:28:32.599
called first class business he's gonna cost a
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fortune and i'm like what are plans that are
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.299
one dollar so. Yeah, Christopher room and I were
00:28:38.299 --> 00:28:41.000
talking about the lens and is that goodness $1?
00:28:41.460 --> 00:28:44.240
Yeah, I was like people get distracted by their
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.880
own premeditated routines. But like you said,
00:28:48.140 --> 00:28:51.359
we want to look for who do we resonate with and
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.559
then take the proactive opportunity to reach
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.279
out to them and have a genuine conversation.
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So continue again. How else can somebody recognize
00:29:00.099 --> 00:29:04.009
the difference between a business coach? that
00:29:04.009 --> 00:29:07.130
is not going to serve their best interests and
00:29:07.130 --> 00:29:13.869
one that is prepared to serve them well. I think
00:29:13.869 --> 00:29:16.630
even more important to go into is what are your
00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:21.569
values? What is it you actually care about? Yes.
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Because if you don't know your values, then anybody
00:29:25.349 --> 00:29:28.509
is going to seem attractive because you don't
00:29:28.509 --> 00:29:31.180
know. You don't know what you don't know. And
00:29:31.180 --> 00:29:32.740
because of that, let's play with that a little
00:29:32.740 --> 00:29:34.400
bit. Well, yeah, I'm going to put you in the
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.740
hot seat again on this one. So yeah, we all know
00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:41.440
my values. And so if I go to coach Willie and
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.400
I haven't met him before and my first interview
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.619
question is, uh, Hey Willie, um, do you share
00:29:48.619 --> 00:29:52.119
my values? Are you loving? What's going to happen?
00:29:54.140 --> 00:29:57.500
I can be like this guy is kind of crazy. I got
00:29:57.500 --> 00:30:00.450
into it. But what's happening to me as a business
00:30:00.450 --> 00:30:03.410
owner, if that's my question, is it is a question
00:30:03.410 --> 00:30:08.170
that's called leading the witness. Yeah, the
00:30:08.170 --> 00:30:10.009
like the way that you phrase the question saying,
00:30:10.509 --> 00:30:14.369
are you do you follow my values? Do you find
00:30:14.369 --> 00:30:17.029
that you need to be loving? Well, then it's either
00:30:17.029 --> 00:30:22.250
I say, yes, and we carry a conversation or I
00:30:22.250 --> 00:30:25.589
say no. And if I say no, it's just like K. Jackson's
00:30:25.589 --> 00:30:28.720
gone. That's the end of the conversation. Yeah.
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:31.299
So I've put you in a position to where you know
00:30:31.299 --> 00:30:34.359
exactly what you need to say in order to move
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.279
through this process. So I can't really evaluate
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.359
you as a business coach based on my values if
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.740
I'm gifting. So how then can an individual go
00:30:45.740 --> 00:30:49.180
through an interview and not lead the witness,
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:51.819
not accidentally tell the person the answer before
00:30:51.819 --> 00:30:54.940
it starts? How do you assess whether the business
00:30:54.940 --> 00:30:59.460
coach actually shares your values? or may not
00:30:59.460 --> 00:31:02.400
be as great of a fit. How do you feel for that
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:07.740
resonance? How do you tee up resonance? The questions
00:31:07.740 --> 00:31:10.740
you ask is something that's worked well for me.
00:31:11.019 --> 00:31:12.960
I don't think I know the perfect answer to this,
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:15.339
but I think there's different ways in which questions
00:31:15.339 --> 00:31:18.819
can be asked. With the loving aspect, it's talking
00:31:18.819 --> 00:31:24.539
about, it's asking them about their family. You're
00:31:24.539 --> 00:31:27.460
like, hey, are you a family individual? And maybe
00:31:27.460 --> 00:31:30.339
that even might be hard enough. Just says who
00:31:30.339 --> 00:31:33.200
who do you love and care about these days? Who
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.460
is in your inner circle? Is that family members?
00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:38.579
Is it friends? Is it people who are blood related
00:31:38.579 --> 00:31:42.619
or not? Who's in your inner circle? And then
00:31:42.619 --> 00:31:44.940
there's other ones of like if they if my friends
00:31:44.940 --> 00:31:47.599
you just witnessed why I love and trustfully
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.400
so much as a as a coach and why I believe in
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.460
him as a business coach and there there's so
00:31:53.460 --> 00:31:55.180
many elements where we all have an opportunity
00:31:55.180 --> 00:31:58.059
to learn. and he's willing to so he said i don't
00:31:58.059 --> 00:32:00.660
think i have the perfect answer for this and
00:32:00.660 --> 00:32:03.220
you're right and i don't think i have the perfect
00:32:03.220 --> 00:32:05.559
answer for this either by the way yet i do know
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.480
i have a little bit more training in this department
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.160
than you do and willy doesn't get upset about
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:14.380
that and that's that's a huge aspect of collaborating
00:32:14.380 --> 00:32:17.299
with somebody who's a coach or mentor or a business
00:32:17.299 --> 00:32:19.279
partner etc is knowing how to go back and forth
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.400
so if you continue to ask if you ask about the
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:24.500
family you're still leading the witness If you
00:32:24.500 --> 00:32:25.759
ask, who do you love right now? You're still
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:27.960
leading the witness on those opportunities. So
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.119
it's not it's not that that can happen. But asking
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:35.279
an open ended question that that allows the person
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.640
to think freely. So, you know, where would you
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:42.359
like to take this conversation? I have not revealed
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.960
anything whatsoever. If that person talks about
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:49.380
bottom line and revenues and hustle and grind
00:32:49.380 --> 00:32:53.480
and crushing it. And I already know. that while
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:55.720
they may have some type of essence of loving
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:00.359
within them, that they're not focused on loving.
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:04.740
And so and then your demeanor, your ability to
00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:07.579
say, I don't I don't think I know that. And then
00:33:07.579 --> 00:33:09.960
to go right back into family matters, like that's
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.519
just your natural prerogative to think through
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.740
that and to focus and to stay centered on that.
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:19.039
I could feel the value of that. And so my my
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:20.740
greater point for all of you as visionary leaders
00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:24.460
out there is It's not important. It's not as
00:33:24.460 --> 00:33:26.400
important to find a coach who has some type of
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.680
specific path or specific approach or some type
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.039
of framework or some type of mechanism. What
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.920
is super important is being able to recognize
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.400
what do they naturally emulate and does that
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:42.059
align with that? Would that feeling of of resonate
00:33:42.059 --> 00:33:44.740
that Willie talked about? And that's what attracts
00:33:44.740 --> 00:33:46.680
me to Willie. That's why I'm like, oh my gosh,
00:33:46.859 --> 00:33:48.460
like I want to work with this guy long term.
00:33:48.779 --> 00:33:50.579
So with that said, do you have anything else
00:33:50.579 --> 00:33:55.839
you want to add? I would just add to that, that's
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.880
what I've seen too. I think that is a great question.
00:34:00.259 --> 00:34:01.980
Just like, where'd you like to carry this conversation?
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.099
It doesn't focus on the values, but you let them
00:34:05.099 --> 00:34:07.400
talk about it. I think that is a fantastic way
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.440
to go about it. Because even the questions I
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:11.480
asked might be a little bit less leading, but
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.099
they're absolutely still leading because they're
00:34:13.099 --> 00:34:15.599
leading to the values. But finding those just
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.940
like Jackson gave of ones where, let's just talk
00:34:19.940 --> 00:34:22.909
friend to friend. Let's just chat and see what
00:34:22.909 --> 00:34:24.190
the conversation is. What have you seen too,
00:34:24.349 --> 00:34:26.730
Willie? We're working together on this whole
00:34:26.730 --> 00:34:29.309
business coaching aspect. You've also come on
00:34:29.309 --> 00:34:33.489
board as a client in the process. What have you
00:34:33.489 --> 00:34:38.909
seen that unlocks your ability to be an even
00:34:38.909 --> 00:34:42.530
better business coach? What materials have helped
00:34:42.530 --> 00:34:46.670
set precedents and all of that? What can other
00:34:46.670 --> 00:34:51.670
people use in their lives? I mean, I feel free
00:34:51.670 --> 00:34:53.690
to spitball or feel free to focus on one item.
00:34:55.769 --> 00:34:58.230
First thing is, I really like the blogs that
00:34:58.230 --> 00:35:01.309
you put out and not to promote you or anything,
00:35:01.469 --> 00:35:03.230
which I'll always promote you. You're awesome.
00:35:03.230 --> 00:35:05.309
I think it's important. Yeah, I think so too.
00:35:05.670 --> 00:35:09.489
The blogs that you put out, they are by far some
00:35:09.489 --> 00:35:14.110
of the best articles that I've seen because they
00:35:14.110 --> 00:35:17.619
don't talk to, they don't just... They don't
00:35:17.619 --> 00:35:20.559
come from a framework of I know this and you
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.059
need to listen to me and like my post and subscribe
00:35:23.059 --> 00:35:26.480
to me. They're very. Here's the data. Here's
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:30.800
the information. Do with what you will. I think
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.280
that's very good as an example. What's one that
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:39.199
made a big impact? The the four questions for
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:43.039
the for a discovery call. Because it used to
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.860
be and there's a 30 minute one of 30 minute meetings
00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:49.400
as well. When I would go into 35th minute meetings
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:53.119
for the discovery calls, it would be hey, how
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.400
you doing? Tell me what you're working on projects
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.039
wise and I remember at the beginning of when
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.000
I would do coaching It would be very slow at
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.980
the beginning and then I'd gather so much information
00:36:06.980 --> 00:36:09.179
Like a sponge I took it all in and then squeeze
00:36:09.179 --> 00:36:11.860
what I could out But it took like an hour hour
00:36:11.860 --> 00:36:16.260
and a half to be able to do but then with the
00:36:16.260 --> 00:36:18.739
right questions. It's like, I only asked four
00:36:18.739 --> 00:36:20.739
questions and goodness gracious, they give me
00:36:20.739 --> 00:36:23.380
all the information. We're only 15 minutes into
00:36:23.380 --> 00:36:25.599
it. Now we can have a coaching session as well.
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.300
It's like bada bing, bada boom. I freaking love
00:36:28.300 --> 00:36:31.519
it. That's huge. I'm glad you brought it up and
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.639
that you're teaching me as we go. Like even though
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:35.900
some of my material, my materials notes, I stand
00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:38.039
on the shoulder of giants, my friends, like the
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:39.880
articles I've written are based on years and
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.480
years of practicing. I remember being at Lifetime
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.139
Fitness and this was after my two year mission.
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:48.579
And it's one of the most sophisticated gym fitness
00:36:48.579 --> 00:36:51.039
sales processes in the world. And there were
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.000
five objectives that we had to hit before we
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:55.880
left the office to go on a tour with somebody
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:58.119
like we knew what they were and we knew how to
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.780
extract this information. But I couldn't see
00:37:00.780 --> 00:37:03.780
how that applied to my next job. And I went to
00:37:03.780 --> 00:37:06.239
my next job and I had to learn a whole new process
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:07.940
and hopefully I had to do my hour and a half
00:37:07.940 --> 00:37:10.159
stuff, you know, maybe three hour stuff sometimes
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.300
to try to figure out where to go and how to get
00:37:12.300 --> 00:37:14.539
it. And then I went to the next place and the
00:37:14.539 --> 00:37:17.000
same thing. And the same thing I did not, I could
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:18.780
not put this together, but I started to kind
00:37:18.780 --> 00:37:22.239
of see little trends between my mission, lifetime
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.320
fitness, own local restaurant connect, like all
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:26.739
these different things to sort of say, like,
00:37:26.739 --> 00:37:29.199
wait a second. It's really like all kind of aligned
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.360
somehow. And I got to give a huge shout out to
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.559
a program that unfortunately doesn't exist anymore.
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.659
Taylor Welch, the sales mentor. That was where
00:37:36.659 --> 00:37:41.099
my eyes were open to. Oh, like Willie said, this
00:37:41.099 --> 00:37:44.179
takes four questions. um and can take between
00:37:44.179 --> 00:37:47.059
two minutes and 15 minutes and i can know whether
00:37:47.059 --> 00:37:49.380
i'm wasting somebody's time or whether i'm helping
00:37:49.380 --> 00:37:52.860
them out move forward or move on uh depending
00:37:52.860 --> 00:37:56.260
on the the scenario and so it will is 100 right
00:37:56.260 --> 00:37:59.820
i designed those articles because i don't have
00:37:59.820 --> 00:38:02.679
enough coaches to help the people who come my
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.239
way and i'm i'm not a coach that's not that's
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.840
not what i do have to sometimes step into that
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:11.320
but I need more coaches by my side because 95
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:14.820
% of the people who come on my stage, not even
00:38:14.820 --> 00:38:17.880
just the applicants, desperately need a better
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.380
coach by their side. All of us, if we want to
00:38:21.380 --> 00:38:24.079
hit the types of dreams and ambitions and goals
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:25.960
and visions and build the way that we really
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.599
want to, we've got to have coaches by our side.
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.980
Every coach needs a coach. It's like every doctor
00:38:30.980 --> 00:38:34.730
needs a doctor and every doctor need specialists
00:38:34.730 --> 00:38:37.050
by them to refer people to as well. This goes
00:38:37.050 --> 00:38:39.050
very deep. It's very important as a visionary
00:38:39.050 --> 00:38:41.909
that we understand that depth of humility, that
00:38:41.909 --> 00:38:46.010
I am not meant to do this alone. That's not solopreneur.
00:38:46.050 --> 00:38:48.489
You want to go fast, go alone. You want to go
00:38:48.489 --> 00:38:51.369
far, go together. Thank you, African proverb.
00:38:52.289 --> 00:38:53.730
That's at least where I've heard it came from.
00:38:53.949 --> 00:38:58.639
I have no idea. But Willie. What else man that's
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.300
in this what else have you learned throughout
00:39:01.300 --> 00:39:03.219
your life or thought your time with this either
00:39:03.219 --> 00:39:06.829
one? that helps you prepare for the dynamics
00:39:06.829 --> 00:39:09.210
of a business coaching. Why is this so serious?
00:39:09.449 --> 00:39:11.889
Everybody can launch a business these days. Just
00:39:11.889 --> 00:39:15.090
go to your bank and get your LLC through. Get
00:39:15.090 --> 00:39:17.250
your guidance of how to open your account. Go
00:39:17.250 --> 00:39:19.909
get your LLC somewhere else. Don't pay a lot
00:39:19.909 --> 00:39:21.530
of money for that, by the way. Use AI to help.
00:39:22.349 --> 00:39:25.570
I'm not a financial consultant, by the way. Never
00:39:25.570 --> 00:39:28.329
mind. Don't even listen to me. I'm not qualified
00:39:28.329 --> 00:39:31.199
to give that type of advice, my friends. You
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:33.380
guys kind of seen the point like this whole business
00:39:33.380 --> 00:39:35.159
thing gets talked about as something that's easy
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:36.860
But then there's all these nuances that happen
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later. So Willie what what what's opened your
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eyes over the last several years? First thing
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is the thing you mentioned which is teams. I
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think that's under talked about I think we should
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take a moment to talk about it So you're saying
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I can't do it alone. No, I can't do it alone.
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But Yeah, I I'm gonna just to bridge that gap
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real quick guys. I've spent My life, my adult
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life, the last 20 years, pretty much working
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with entrepreneurs, I have never met a single
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solopreneur who's successful. I have met a bunch
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of people who lie about it. I've met a bunch
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of people who step on their virtual assistants
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and cause what we call virtual abuse and don't
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acknowledge the team that exists. And they probably
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don't feel very well. At least that's what I
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got out of my relationship with those individuals.
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I have never met a single solopreneur who's successful,
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not one. And I have met my whole life talking
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to him. So it is not a very good path to follow
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Do not try to be the unicorn continue will a
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team now we can talk about team Continue with
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that aspect. How many fortune 500 companies out
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there have one employee? Yeah Zero like they
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have teams and they have they have many people
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in many different departments who work on their
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own individual strengths I think if it goes,
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but I love Stephen R Covey and his book Seven
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Habits of Highly Effective People, because one
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of the things rings true to me so much, which
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:04.860
is his first half of the book helps you go from
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dependency to being independent, having to rely
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on other people to do everything and you just
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have to have that happen, to then being independent,
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being able to carry yourself and do the hard
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work necessary. Then there's the second part,
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.670
which... Hits me even more which is going from
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independent to interdependent Which is saying
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I can do it, but I don't have to do it alone
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Yeah, well, but Willie I don't want a fortune
00:41:34.389 --> 00:41:37.489
500 company I just I'm a single mom and I want
00:41:37.489 --> 00:41:41.389
to run my business from my home Surely I can
00:41:41.389 --> 00:41:45.409
do that by myself my inner ego says many thoughts
00:41:45.409 --> 00:41:50.320
I Think you can sure try And maybe you'll bring
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in a couple hundred, couple thousand dollars
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:56.500
extra that can help out. But I also think - I
00:41:56.500 --> 00:41:59.019
would say it's like walking a tightrope across
00:41:59.019 --> 00:42:02.019
two buildings. Do you really want to put your
00:42:02.019 --> 00:42:05.400
life, like your family at risk? by trying this
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.619
just because you think you can and then some
00:42:07.619 --> 00:42:09.920
boss babe told you you can or some marketing
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.019
bro who's using his mom's credit card to run
00:42:12.019 --> 00:42:14.559
his business um and they don't actually make
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.320
any money on the business i i had a fire client
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.559
a couple of about one year ago she had spent
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:23.099
three hundred and thirty thousand dollars of
00:42:23.099 --> 00:42:26.260
her parents money dad was pissed at them they
00:42:26.260 --> 00:42:29.099
thought dad was toxic Uh, no, I'm sorry, but
00:42:29.099 --> 00:42:31.940
if you're kind and you've spent over 300 ,000
00:42:31.940 --> 00:42:34.519
of your dad's money and you haven't made a dime
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:38.840
on what you do, that's toxicity. That's not healthy.
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.659
And so I work for the single moms out there.
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:44.420
Like you want to try to start a business by yourself.
00:42:44.820 --> 00:42:47.940
You're putting your family at risk. You can,
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.320
like I said, it's like walking a tight rope across
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:54.000
two skyscrapers to your choice, but like, And
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.500
it's, I just, I get so frustrated with, with
00:42:57.500 --> 00:43:00.880
that. So, um, uh, again, but it's, it's not about
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.320
fortune 500s that can be, but it's about stability
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.139
and sustainability for most of you want, you
00:43:07.139 --> 00:43:08.900
want some type of sustainability. You want to
00:43:08.900 --> 00:43:11.340
be safe. You want to, you want to have that American
00:43:11.340 --> 00:43:14.780
dream coming to fruition. So, um, feel free again,
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.719
back to teams or Willie, what, cause what if
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:20.010
you've, I've already tried that. Willie, I've
00:43:20.010 --> 00:43:23.630
hired teams and I've hired teams upon team members.
00:43:25.690 --> 00:43:31.269
Doesn't work. Yeah. And I think many people have
00:43:31.269 --> 00:43:35.050
that same echo of think that I've been burned
00:43:35.050 --> 00:43:38.090
is usually the the battle cry that happens. I've
00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:41.250
been burned by said coach said company said team.
00:43:41.469 --> 00:43:45.369
I don't want to do it with them. And I come back
00:43:45.369 --> 00:43:50.639
to say that I get it. And I also know the value
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:55.960
and importance of teams. And don't let one team's,
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.639
coach's, business's mistake let you harm your
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.880
future of working with great people. Yeah. Or
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:08.199
three or four. I did that. I'm speaking from
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:10.340
my own past experience of feeling these things,
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.880
my friends. And I was pointing my finger. at
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:15.960
others saying it was the team's fault. It was
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:17.920
the team's fault. It was the team's fault and
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.000
not realizing three fingers are pointing right
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.360
back at me. I love how you said that. I think
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:25.579
you're the only other person I've ever heard
00:44:25.579 --> 00:44:27.519
say that because I say that too. It's like whenever
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.619
you point the blame, look at your hand. There
00:44:30.619 --> 00:44:33.400
are three fingers pointing back at you. That's
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:35.900
incredible. I'm glad that you brought that up.
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.260
Guys, again, this is a big reason why I love
00:44:39.260 --> 00:44:42.000
Coach Willie Lake. He's willing to collaborate.
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.139
He's willing to listen and learn. And while he
00:44:45.139 --> 00:44:47.460
may not have the exact concept on the front end,
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:51.199
if I'm like, hey, Willie, help me evaluate my
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.119
AOV, my average order values. He might be like,
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:57.400
I don't know a thing about that. And that's OK,
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.239
because I can then put my content in front of
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:03.619
him. I can ask Willie to go research on AI as
00:45:03.619 --> 00:45:06.699
well and see what else exists out there. and
00:45:06.699 --> 00:45:09.300
then I can have him gather his questions and
00:45:09.300 --> 00:45:10.900
his comments and come back. We can collaborate.
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.619
You just need to take the time, my friends, as
00:45:13.619 --> 00:45:15.840
visionaries to study these types of things out
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.880
with people that you can absolutely trust. and
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:21.559
i can actually trust willy are there better business
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.780
coaches out there than coach willy as a business
00:45:23.780 --> 00:45:27.059
coach i guarantee it um you know i 100 are there
00:45:27.059 --> 00:45:29.920
better business owners than me out there or podcast
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:33.039
us yes go watch stephen bartlett for crying out
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:36.420
loud go watch any late night show host they're
00:45:36.420 --> 00:45:38.980
like a thousand times better than me um and it's
00:45:38.980 --> 00:45:42.699
okay um the the bit but what what is hard is
00:45:42.699 --> 00:45:44.800
there's so many business coaches out there that
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:48.400
are great phenomenal probably But they cost a
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:51.840
fortune and if you don't get a fortune in order
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:56.019
to hire those set individuals then They they're
00:45:56.019 --> 00:45:58.840
not useless to you, but they may not be accessible
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:02.239
to you Coach really is accessible currently and
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:04.079
that is something that is massive So if you're
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.239
in a position where you you are and you know
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.539
You need more coaches more visionaries more mentors
00:46:10.539 --> 00:46:14.000
by your side the day to work with somebody like
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:17.599
Willie is today while they have that availability
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.960
a year from now. It is going to be so fun. I
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:23.019
cannot wait to do an interview with you one year
00:46:23.019 --> 00:46:26.980
from now when you have grown so much and we asked
00:46:26.980 --> 00:46:29.039
the same type of questions. We come back through
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.079
this and the audience is going to see a completely
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.739
different man in that process. Well, they're
00:46:34.739 --> 00:46:37.519
going to see two completely different men in
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:40.079
that process because I too am hungry to continue
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:42.960
to grow and figure out how do I become that much
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.610
better? How do I do my best? It's not about being
00:46:45.610 --> 00:46:47.650
better than those other coaches out there. If
00:46:47.650 --> 00:46:50.469
you're a visionary, I hope you hear this advice
00:46:50.469 --> 00:46:52.789
now, because I learned it too late. I learned
00:46:52.789 --> 00:46:55.150
it far later than I wanted to. And I wish I could
00:46:55.150 --> 00:46:57.869
go back and tell my 19 -year -old self, be your
00:46:57.869 --> 00:47:01.010
best self. Don't worry about others. Just continue
00:47:01.010 --> 00:47:03.570
to work on being your best self each day. And
00:47:03.570 --> 00:47:05.489
don't get distracted by what other people are
00:47:05.489 --> 00:47:08.769
doing or how good other people might be. So Willie,
00:47:08.849 --> 00:47:12.170
this is your last chance to share your vision.
00:47:12.809 --> 00:47:17.710
And to share with visionary leaders, counsel,
00:47:18.130 --> 00:47:21.530
wisdom, advice, a question they might think through.
00:47:22.650 --> 00:47:35.510
What would that sacred wisdom be? The path in
00:47:35.510 --> 00:47:39.730
which you go down is your choice alone. And the
00:47:39.730 --> 00:47:42.039
people who you have by your side. Going down
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.380
that path with you is also your choice. So choose
00:47:45.380 --> 00:47:52.340
wisely. I love that. I don't only love the wisdom
00:47:52.340 --> 00:47:55.579
that you shared, but the spiritual way in which
00:47:55.579 --> 00:47:58.260
you answered that, the deep breath you took,
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.800
the thoughtfulness, not feeling scripted, not
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:04.320
feeling like you needed to share some type of
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.559
tagline. You thought through that very intentionally.
00:48:09.070 --> 00:48:11.409
visionaries, the examples that we've gotten to
00:48:11.409 --> 00:48:14.710
see today. If we can look at this interview and
00:48:14.710 --> 00:48:16.630
say, how do I learn from this? I'll give a shout
00:48:16.630 --> 00:48:19.650
out to the channel, Charisma on Command. For
00:48:19.650 --> 00:48:21.989
those of you who don't know how to do that, watch
00:48:21.989 --> 00:48:25.829
Charisma on Command on YouTube and watch how
00:48:25.829 --> 00:48:30.349
the man who runs that show studies interactions
00:48:30.349 --> 00:48:34.230
and is able to pull from those interactions how
00:48:34.230 --> 00:48:37.780
certain behaviors transpired. We all have the
00:48:37.780 --> 00:48:40.400
ability to study that and then look at right
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.119
now. How do I apply that to my own life? It's
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.480
one of the best channels for teaching this concept
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.619
that I've come across. I haven't thought about
00:48:46.619 --> 00:48:48.800
in that way before, but I hope that the visionary
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:51.480
is listening to this message right now that one
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.559
of you at least is able to pick up on that and
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:55.340
say, you know what? I can now apply this to my
00:48:55.340 --> 00:48:57.260
life. You can go back and watch this interview
00:48:57.260 --> 00:48:59.500
and see some of the subtleties about the way
00:48:59.500 --> 00:49:01.880
that coach Willie Blake and I interacted. You
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.400
will understand why coach Willie Blake is one
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:06.239
of the most important people in the world to
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:08.690
me. moving forward. So you guys have a phenomenal
00:49:08.690 --> 00:49:10.690
time building your vision. We'll see you on the
00:49:10.690 --> 00:49:13.110
next episode and Willie, keep being awesome.
00:49:13.230 --> 00:49:15.070
Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy
00:49:15.070 --> 00:49:17.349
that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking
00:49:17.349 --> 00:49:20.750
forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes
00:49:20.750 --> 00:49:22.369
continue to move forward. This is going to get
00:49:22.369 --> 00:49:24.989
more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement
00:49:24.989 --> 00:49:27.050
as well. We'll invite people to participate in
00:49:27.050 --> 00:49:29.210
the show and thank you for giving us your time
00:49:29.210 --> 00:49:31.530
and attention. Have an excellent time building
00:49:31.530 --> 00:49:33.949
out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.