Veronica LIVE with Dr. Jessica Spencer - Vote No on Amendment 3

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Welcome to Ronica Alive. And we are here with our
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next guest. Oh, I've been excited to chat with her,
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doctor Jessica Spencer. She is fighting the fight against the
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pot Amendment three here in Florida that is on the ballot,
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and Jessica, I am fired up over here.
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So welcome to Ronica Live.
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Well, I'm glad you're fired up. Thank you so much
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for having me.
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Well, I just texted you before you came on, Literally
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before I started doing my show today, I got this
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massive postcard with President Trump on it saying how he's
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voting for Amendment three, you know, because we've got needless
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arrest and incarcerations. And I'm oh, I've got steam coming
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out my out of my ears.
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I'm just so angry about this. Florida does not want this.
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So how do you see all of this?
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I mean, if we want to do you want me
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to address the Trump supporter?
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Do you want me to address the issues? I don't
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even know where to begin with any of that.
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All right, well, let's start with the issue and then
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we'll then we'll talk about Trump.
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Perfect.
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Perfect, So yeah, I mean this is this has been
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my field for a long time.
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Substance abuse prevention intervention treatment.
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So obviously I am concerned about this being legalized recreationally
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in our state, but you know, I'm almost more concerned about.
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The fact that it's the constitutional Amendment. So I am
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super excited to be here again.
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Thank you so much for having me, And I think
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it's important for your listeners to understand, if they don't already,
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you know that the Constitutional Amendment, if it passes, will
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forever be enshrined in our constitution as written. And there
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are so many issues and concerns with the language in
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this particular amendment.
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We have to vote no.
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Just on the face of it, we have to vote
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no without even getting into the nitty gritty of all
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of it. There are major problems, and a constitutional amendment
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supersedes all law in our state, right, so this isn't
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something that we can legislate our way out of.
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When the legislature if this passes, which.
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It won't because everyone's going to vote no, the legislature
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has to put in an implementing bill and the language
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in their bill has to be consistent with the language
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of the amendment. And again that's where we run into
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major problems because if we don't like the way it's written,
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and if we have any question about any part of it,
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we will not be able to fix it later on
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down the road. Our legislators do not have.
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The ability to do that. So I would urge all.
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Of your readers, understanding how constitutional amendments work, not only
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to vote no, but don't just take my word for it.
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Go read the amendment yourself. It's four pages. It's a
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pretty easy read. And look at what's in there, but
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also what's not in there.
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Well, that's funny, because I wasn't thinking, you know, I
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was just concerned about it being legal. I was thinking
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about that part of it that you've just hammered home.
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You know, because because I have James Madison put out
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a really nice little booklet that John and I have
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been referring to, and we've had a bunch of representatives.
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We just had one on prior to you, representative doctor
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Joel Rudman, who's a doctor, and so he's ticked about
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this because he sees it up clothed with patients how
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bad marijuana is. But you know, the overall description says
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legalizes recreational marijuana for Floridians and out of state visitors
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twenty one and older. And so what I mean that's
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bad for me. I don't want people smoking marijuana around
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the around our state. I've been to states now, Seattle,
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I was in Vegas the weekend it became legal.
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It was the most horrific experience of my life.
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And then I go to New York City all the
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time and you just smell it everywhere. So I just
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I just fear that that's going to be Florida. But
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dot we have literally I think I can count six
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dispensaries that have popped up here for medical marijuana, which
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on pro medical marijuana. If you're suffering, so I feel
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like people can't have access to pot.
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So so well they do.
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And there's there's a huge.
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Piece of that, the medical you know, there's been sort
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of this thought process, and I want, you know, if
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listeners are concerned about the medical piece, I want them
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to understand that a vote no on Amendment three keeps
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the medical marijuana law that we have here now status quo.
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It I love that marijuana here in our state, correct, yep.
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And then let's get back to why it's bad.
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I guess one of the things that shocked me and
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I've talked with all the representatives, and then I went
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through your website and you know, read read all of
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the the things that you all are posting, and I
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know the governor is definitely on board with voting no
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for this. Where I'm where do we go from here
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to stop this? The money that these people have, true
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lief is pumped in here seventy five million dollars at
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least already, Like that's scandalous to me and the corporate greed.
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So so chat about that and explain why this is.
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A bad thing.
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I will and I want to talk about the corporate greed,
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and I want to touch on one thing too, where
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you talk about the smell, and then I will absolutely
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go into the the a marijuana baply that we're looking at.
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There really is there is not enough time in the
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day for this.
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But you know, to your point about the smell, absolutely
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huge issue in other states with recreational marijuana and shoot,
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I mean it's a huge problem right now even with
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medical here. We already smell it here in Florida. So
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the main issue when it comes to smoking in public
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that we need to be mindful and when you know
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your listeners and when yourself if you're reading the amendment,
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we have to be very clear that the author did
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not put in anything that would allow the legislature or
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local municipalities to ban public smoking.
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And literally, all they needed to.
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Do was strike through one word in the amendment language.
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They just needed to strike through the word medical, and
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it would have given the state and local municipalities the
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opportunity to ban smoking in public and they didn't do it.
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So literally, we would have the ability to smell marijuana
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everywhere and anywhere in our state and there is not
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a darancing that anybody can.
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Do about it. Because again, constitutional.
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Law, if you try to change amend, make a bill
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or make an ordinance or whatever, you will not be.
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Consistent with the language of the amendment.
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And when we talk about, you know, again the mega
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marijuana monopoly corporation industry, they did this on purpose, right,
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They left specific things out.
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And when we talk about why this is a mega
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marijuana monopoly, I think you've.
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Already alluded to how much money has been dumped into this, right,
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And the big issue is, right, it's it's stunning, it's
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it's it's stunning. But they've put so much money into this,
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and they effectively ban home grow, which is something.
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Else I want to ask you about that time.
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Yeah, well they're they're again working with this monopoly.
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They're they're driving.
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Consumer base, right, and you don't spend that much money
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because you're interested in creating a backyard competitor, right, you
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are creating consumers. And so they purposely left out the
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word cultivate as it relates to individuals.
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So some have already come up and you know when
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we're having.
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These conversations like oh, but it'll be great because I'll
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be able to grow, and I'm like, listen, this is
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not about.
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Your personal freedom.
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This is about corporate greed from this particular industry. And again,
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you know, we go back to they just need to
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destroy one word for smoking in public. They just needed
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to add one word cultivate when referencing individuals. But they
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didn't because this it would hurt their bottom line. And
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they are the only ones that have come out publicly
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and actually bragged about how much money this industry will
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bring in for them in our state. And it's it's stunning,
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it's shocking, it's sad, and we don't want or need
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this here in our state.
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Well, I saw that in your media clips. It said
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six that the CEO of truly was like saying that
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this was going to be a six billion dollar market.
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And so seventy five million dollars to this woman CEO
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is nothing. It's so twenty bucks to if you're going
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to bring in that kind of money.
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And again she's she mentioned six billion dollar industry. I mean,
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that's wild, right, it's wild to some of us even
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trying to wrap our heads, right, it's it's wild to
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try to wrap her head around that number.
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Right.
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And you know, on top.
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Of that, this would actually make us the largest legal
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cannabis market in the nation, and not just the nation,
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in the world. We don't so when we you know,
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when we hear about the horrors that are happening in
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you know, Colorado, California, Washington, et cetera, et cetera, and
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we think about, wow, there's so much marijuana being sold
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out there. That is a drop in the bucket as
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to what the industry has already come.
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Out to say. We will look like we will leave.
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The nation and then internationally we will leave the world
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in legal cannabis market.
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Well, so, I say, doctor Spenser, one of the things
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I wanted to ask you about you know, we're just
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talking about the smoke and the smelling stuff is you know,
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with cigarettes, is always thinking about secondhand smoke, you know,
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and affecting kids and that kind of stuff in the home.
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Do you see the same kind of effects with marijuana?
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I mean, does it have the same Is drug transferred
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through secondhand smoke?
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Oh?
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Absolutely? I mean, and listen, it's just as basic as
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saying we're not supposed to inhale anything other than oxygen, right,
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So if it'd stands to reason that you're not supposed
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to inhale a combusted plant, a combusted material, So there's
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of course secondhand effect to that, and we don't want
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to smell it. And you know, we have the Clean
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Indoor Air Act here in Florida for a reason because
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we didn't want to inhale tobacco smoke.
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We didn't want to be subject to it.
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If you want to go smoke your cigarette, that's fine,
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I understand.
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It's an addiction. You got to have it, go smoke
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it somewhere else, right, And so we.
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Have the Clean Indoor Air Act that doesn't apply to
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marijuana smoke, so we will not be able to fall
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under that as a protection for those of us that
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don't want to inhale it or don't want our children
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to be subject to inhaling it or breathing in that
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toxic essentially carcinogen and again the smoke, all of it.
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We don't want this in our state.
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It doesn't belong in our neighborhoods, that doesn't belong in
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our communities, and it certainly doesn't belong in our state constitution.
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So I was very impressed that the CEO of Citadel
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that moved down here from Chicago because I guess it
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wasn't a great place, has.
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Donated twelve million dollars to fight this.
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So tell me about that relationship, because you know, it's
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not like Chicago's. Chicago has lots of issues, and I'm
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sure Pot's for the problem, so you know he doesn't
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want that in Florida. I was so impressed because I
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it's the first time I read this. Was getting ready
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for you to come on.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I'm obviously super grateful. It's great, it's helpful
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for us. We needed it, and I'm super appreciative. I'm
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thankful for everybody that's donated to the campaign.
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I don't know why he did, except for that.
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He cares about Florida and he doesn't want Florida to
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look like these other states. And I would encourage, just
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like you did, I would encourage your listeners to read
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his op ed and get a real understanding why he
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cares about the state. And again, you know, the only
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people that have really bragged about how much money they're made,
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making or spending on this initiative is the Megan marijuana corporations.
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Yeah, it's it's embarrassing.
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So let's talk about like, for example, Senator Joe Gruder's
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I was so disappointed that he came out now and
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and his four Amendment three. And I've had a you know,
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Chairman Evan Power on the representative doctor Joel Rudman that
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just came on our representative was just on last week
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and they are against it. So so why do you
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think he partnered with you know the other side.
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I'm just shocked because.
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Pot to me.
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And you're you're a doctor and you.
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See these not a fancy doctor.
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I'm not a fans doctor, but I definitely I have
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a doctorate.
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Yes, it worked very hard for that well.
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And I mean, you deal with these people that obviously
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have smoked pot, so.
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I mean to me, it's a gateway drug. Is it
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not a gateweight drug? I ask people like you that
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all the time.
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There's a little bit of an argument about that, right.
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smoking pop for decades and I haven't used anything else,
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and that I always say, good for you, that's awesome,
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I'm glad for you, and that's wonderful. But for the
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individuals that we see in treatment, that's not the case.
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They couldn't stop at marijuana. They kept using other substances.
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They either started with marijuana, tobacco, alcohol, or.
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Sneaking prescription drugs.
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So great, that's wonderful, but that's not the story of everybody, right,
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So we have to pay attention and we have to
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be cognitant of these other individuals that are suffering from
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addiction and didn't just start out with hard drugs. They
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started out with those other drugs. And as far as
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you know, our elected officials and Senator Gruters and you know,
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he's a smart man. So I am I'm surprised, I'm dismayed,
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I'm confused.
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Well, that's because he's been going races, he's been going place.
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I don't you know the latter apport us. So I'm
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just blown away.
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Yeah no, and I don't get it, but I don't
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try to get it either, right, because politicians on both
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sides of this issue are going to have opinions, and
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the bottom line is people are going to make their
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own decision on this. And this is why I encourage
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all of your listeners and everyone to read the amendment
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and understand the impact that this will have and not
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necessarily look to elected leaders, which I don't think they
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do for what decisions they are going to make on
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a constitutional amendment issue. So I don't know why he
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did it. I don't know why he's doing it. I
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don't know why President Trump is doing it. And I'm
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really not that concerned about it, because again, if we
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even want to look at President Trump or Joe Ruder's,
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you know, if we're trying to say, well, oh it's
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it's the Republican Party, we can actually go and look
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at Matt Gates, who is pro marijuana. He's a millennial,
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he is propot, and he is actually.
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Against this amendment.
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So that says more about the amendment than it does.
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Who's for or against it?
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Well, I had a guest on a political pundit here
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in Florida and he's and he's friends with Joe, and
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he said, Joe's been open about it. Senator Gruters that
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it's to keep the pot safe for people that you
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know take it, so there's nothing else in it. But
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I'm anti this is a nicky Freed agenda item. Why
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would I ever support this to trash our state?
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And you know the other the other issue is the
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potency thing that and that's what really bothers me. You know,
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this is I'm sure you could probably agree or probably
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know far more than I do about it. But you know,
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your homegrown pot or the pot from you know, I'm
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sixty nine years old, okay, the pot from when I
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was a teenager is nothing compared to what it is today.
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And this stuff, the super super thc stuff that you
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can that you can get in these dispensaries. There is
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there any desire to control that or or is that
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even being discussed?
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Well, I mean the desire to control is to vote
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no on Amendment three, right, And then you know it's
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funny that you mentioned that because just a couple of
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days ago, the ES campaign, you know posted how well
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you know, during I think it was Nixon.
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They may have put it out.
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I can't remember, but I believe it was the Nixon era.
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You know that even Nixon said that, oh, there was
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nothing wrong with marijuana.
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I can't remember what the exact thing is.
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You can find it on X And it's funny that
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they're going all the way back to, you know, the
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sixties and seventies to talk about how, oh, it wasn't
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a big deal back then, or even like you're saying,
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the potency of it, because in the nineteen sixties and seventies,
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we were looking at point seventy five to three percent
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THHD content in your raw herbal marijuana, right and now.
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Prime example, if you go to some of these websites
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and you look at what the strains are now, and
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the strains of the marijuana, they're boasting upwards of thirty
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five percent THCHC. So to your point, you're absolutely correct,
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that's an issue if we recognize that people were getting
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stoned and high at woodstock in the sixties and seventies,
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seventies and again during the era that they're referencing however
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many decades ago.
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That is with fifty I don't mass very well. I
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think it's at least five decades ago. Right, it's nowhere
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near the potency. In fact, it's what.
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You're selling again, Mega marijuana corporations, industry, et cetera. Are
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upwards of thirty percent TC. And that's just for the
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raw herbal material.
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We're not even.
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Talking about the oils and the vapes and the shatter
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that they're selling. That's seventy eighty ninety five percent THC.
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Is there any way for the legislator to control that?
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I mean even they're saying passes, I mean, is that
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is that just? Or is the sky the limit? Whatever
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they want to shove out the door the limit?
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Because again, I mean, there's nothing in here in this language,
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and the amendment says that they can regulate or even
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put the cap on the potency. Right, So again you're
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going to be inconsistent with the language of the men
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because they don't even mention potency. Now they do mention.
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So you'll find this interesting because you'll understand they do
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allow three ounces for individuals to possess, which is the
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nation's highest limit.
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Three ounces.
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You could roll one hundred to one hundred and fifty
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joints or pack a cone as the kids call it.
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Now, that's a lot of weed.
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Oh my gosh, these are things I don't know. Oh
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my goodness, that's scandalous. Well, on the postcard that my still.
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Have steam coming out of my ears with President Trump
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on it, it's a quote from September eighth, and he
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says in the quote, I believe it's time to end
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needless arrests and incarcerations of adults for small amounts of
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marijuana for personal use. We must implement smart regulations while
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providing access for adults to safe tested product. As a filoridian,
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I'll be voting yes.
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And this is.
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Blown up and highlighted on Amendment three this November, and
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I'm fine with you know, And that was that was
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another fallacy too, that the prisons are full of, you know, potheads,
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And I get and I saw on your website. I
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think you guys, you know, you put that to bed
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that that's not true because they're they Yeah, they smoked pot,
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but they also like robbed a bank.
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That's why they're in jail, you.
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Know, right, exactly, Yeah, And that's what it does. It
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fascinates me. I was just in a debate the other.
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Day and the same issue came up, and I'm fascinated
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by it. But to exactly your point, this has already
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been debunked. Why are you still using this as a
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talking point. It's not true, it's not true. You're entitled
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to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your
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own facts. And the fact is there are zero individuals
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that are in prison incarcerated for simple marijuana possession. It's
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just not true. We have debunked it, and yet it's
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still a talking point of theirs that I am fascinated by,
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because again, there's thirty seven people that are in prison
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for simple possession.
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But what you need to understand.
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About that is that is coupled with, like you said,
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other higher level offenses. There is no one in our
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jails and prisons for simple marijuana possession charges.
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And it's actually offensive that they believe that we as.
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Fluritians, are going to continue to pay attention to this
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false narrative and vote yes because we're not. We're gonna
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vote no because it's a flat out lie. It's not true.
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It's been debunked, and I'm pro you.
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Know, if somebody does have it, let's find the hell
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out of them.
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You know, is that your initiative? I mean, what is vote?
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Yeah?
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Are you doing?
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None of us want kids or young adults to be
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in jail for simple marijuana possession or holding a joint.
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None of us do.
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Like, that's preposterous to think that anybody in this state.
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Of Florida would support that. What I would be interested
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in is.
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The conversations around civil citation programs, the conversations around drug courts, which,
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by the way, if an adolescent is caught with a
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joint or more than that, typically there are drug courts
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and juvenile drug courts in place for them, and there's
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there's opportunities for treatment services and interventions that the other
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side just isn't even talking about. So again, yeah, we
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don't want people in jail for that, but.
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The fact is they're not.
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They're not, and to say that they are is a
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flat out lie. It's insulting to Floridians who are quite intelligent,
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and then it's insulting to our our first responders and
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our law enforcement and our public defenders and our state
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attorneys because it's just simply not happening.
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I've heard I've heard John Morgan say that, you know that,
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you know, we need to approve Amendment three and then
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and then after it to proved, we need to go
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and let all all the people in in jail that
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we're in there convicted for marijuana possession out.
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So you know, that's kind of do you have a
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little toonko trunk or a matchbox car, because that is
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how many zero would fit into.
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I mean, it's just it's not true. It's not true.
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And if that's all that you continue to have, that
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is your talking point. That says again more about your
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amendment than it does about the actual.
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Real issues, because it's it's it's just not true. It's
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I don't know how many times I can see this.
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I'm always jumping up and down. You know, true, it's
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been debunked.
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The problem, the problem that you're having and I and
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I understand is very well having been in politics for
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quite a while. Here you're trying to fight an emotional
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response that's, oh, we have all these people in jail.
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You know that's a terrible thing, you know, versus the facts. Well,
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the facts are there's nobody in jail, Okay. The facts
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is this this stuff is dangerous and the facts never
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trump the emotion. That's the problem that we're having.
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Because I was the whole DNC it was all emotion.
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Well, when we talked about to it, we didn't.
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We're not in dispute of our belief system that individuals
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shouldn't be in jail for that about We're not refuting
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that we're on the same page. But then don't turn
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around a lie to Floridians and say that there are
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all these people in jail in prisons for a simple
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marijuana possession.
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Doing this right, you know, emotion.
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And the reason I found you all was because I
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follow Christina. I can never say her last name push pushoi.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She's like one of your number one cheerleaders for remember
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three and four.
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So I need to I need to get to her
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because she's amazing. I want to have her on, but
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she literally like today, she's she's always like, she's already
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posted stuff two things, three things on your from your page.
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So I love that she's fighting the fight and obviously
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the governor's on board with this. Yeah, I mean, how
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are why are you?
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First?
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I want to ask you, why are you so passionate
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about this? Because I see that you were the face
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of this when it was vote no on two for
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two campaigns to defeat this before. So why why are
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you so passionate? I mean, I'm a retired military officer.
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John was in the military. We have you ever done
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a drug ever? My drug is a college girl drink
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on a weekend, you know, And I don't understand why
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somebody would want this, and especially now when it doesn't
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seem like it's the levels of like what John was
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talking about about the good old days, which you know,
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I've never done a single drug ever, and I don't
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know why somebody would want this in their body. But
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why are you so passionate doctor Spencer about this?
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Well?
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Thank you both for your service too. I'm I come
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from a military family and I appreciate your service, and
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I appreciate all of our first responders in our military.
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So thank you.
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And I mean, for me, it comes down to this
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is my area of expertise, right, I mean, I have
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worked in the substances prevention field, working you know, specifically
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with adolescents, for about twenty four years, and I see
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the devastation that this drug can eventually cause, whether it.
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Be as simple as and it's not simple, but it.
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Is smaller on the scale of full blown addiction to
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you know, more dangerous drugs I shouldn't say more dangerous drugs,
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but drugs in general.
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And moving on to other drugs.
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You know, even if a kids skip schooled because they're higher,
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because they were high the night before and they couldn't
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wake up the next day, et cetera. I worry about kids.
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I worry about the exposure that recreational marijuana. Again, when
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this industry says they're going to triple the market, that
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means increased exposure to our children, and I'm concerned about
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that because they are our next generation, our next bright hope. Right,
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we should be raising them with clear brains, not flood
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with messages that marijuana is just wonderful and it's not
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a problem, and it doesn't do any cognitive damage, physical damage, there's.
518
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Nothing wrong with it. We're sending the.
519
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Wrong message to our children. And not only are we
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sending the wrong message to our children, but as we
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see in other states, there are accidental.
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Exposures, there's over exposure.
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We have you know, children and young adults and even
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older adults ending up in our emergency rooms because the
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potency of these products is through the roof, and a
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child is not going to be able to tell between
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your gummy bear that you have that is loaded with
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THCHC that you're only supposed to eat maybe half of, right,
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and a bag of gummy bears that they eat.
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With their friends.
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And they're going to keep eating them and eating them
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and eating them, and they're going to over in jeff
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and they are going to be in the hospitals. And
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that's what we're concerned about. And we're concerned about how
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this changes how parents parents. You know, they're going to
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have to think about things differently as they do in
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other states that have recreational marijuana. You know, do you
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send your child over to Johnny's house whose parents may
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use their who maybe has a twenty one year old
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brother that still lives at home or a sister that
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still lives at home and uses marijuana and you don't
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want your.
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Child exposed to it.
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It changes the whole dynamic of our state. It doesn't
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belong here, it doesn't belong in our state constitution. And
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we all have to vote know in November and send
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a very clear message to this insidious mega marijuana industry.
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We don't want you here and don't come back.
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So how much do we know about about these these
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potent versions? I mean, have there been very many studies
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done on this stuff? I mean, you know, we've seen
552
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the thing with the school shooter. There's been there's been linking.
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You know, these school shooters, most of them are on
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marijuana or have a history of being on marijuana, and
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they have the psychosis induced from that. And so is
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there is there been any correlations that is to say,
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you know, twenty percent thc you get this, thirty percent,
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you get this level.
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No, soh not that I've seen specifically with the actual
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like between a twenty percent and a thirty percent, you
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see something different. I will say that the studies are
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out there about just high potency marijuana in and of itself.
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And I think this.
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Is what's super hard for people to kind of grasp
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and understand. And I think it's because it's so outrageous
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and not outrageous and oh I can't believe that, but
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it's outrageous inough. Oh goodness, we need to do something
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about this epidemic, because this is an epidemic. And you're
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absolutely right, there is cannabis induced psychosis. There's lots of
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mental health issues that we see that happens among you know,
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young people and then into young adulthood, and there's major
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concerns about that. I don't get too far into the weeds,
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for lack of a better word, about that issue, because
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it's it's really hard for people to conceptualize, right if
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you don't experience it yourself. And kind of to your
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point too, John, a lot of people just don't understand
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the potency, right and they're like, Oh, it's just hot,
578
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like I smoked in high school, No big deal. They
579
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don't understand it, and it's really hard for people to
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conceptualize what's actually happening with a lot of individuals that
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are consistently smoking this high potent, consistently ingesting this high
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potent candies, oils, et cetera, and what can potentially happen.
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So again, you know.
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I choose to focus on the issues about the Constitutional
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amendment language itself and not get too far down the
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line on all of these other issues. But I promise
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you you are dead on and these are major concerns
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that your listeners should be paying attention to. But at
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the very least I would love for them to read
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the amendment and understand the language that's in it and
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why we do not want this in our state. It
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doesn't belong in our constitution and we need to vote
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no in November.
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So on second and third order effect here, you know,
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is is that I know you're kind of discounting that,
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but being in the first order fact being don't pass
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the constitutional amendment. But why is that not discussed? What
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is it that we talked about recreational stuff, freedom and
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all this kind of stuff, but we don't talk about
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the second third or effects of this stuff.
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I think it's difficult for people to conceptualize. Like I said,
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I think it's it's hard for people to understand and
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appreciate it. And listen, see how it took me how
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many minutes to explain about the THHD content, and then
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I haven't even gone into where THHD lives in your.
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Body and why that's an issue. Right, So it's not.
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An elevator speech that takes thirty seconds to explain to someone.
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And it's not for lack of people being smart enough
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to get it. We absolutely are, but it's not a
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quick enough explanation that they're like, oh okay, and then
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you really have to think about it. So it's a
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tougher conversation. I love the conversation. I love the education
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of it all because I think it really is important,
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as you're saying, for people to understand what the secondary
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and tertiary effects are of marijuana youth, and not only consistently,
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but even just in the short term, when we're talking
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about young people's brains.
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Well, and I think, like I've seen it on next
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I've read articles about it, like for example, Colorado it's
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you know, legal, and so all of these people moved
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to Colorado because they want to smoke pot every day,
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and it's been a madness. I don't want to work,
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you know, because it kind of takes away your drive.
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I think, I mean, this is your world. What has
625
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the pushback?
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Ben?
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Because you know, I see on your your Actually somebody
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went and debated Leon County and it was spirited over there.
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Now and now we're talking, yeah, did you have your
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your your you know, vote no pot leaf with a
631
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ghostbuster you know, little thing on it. Yeah, and Flack
632
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vest know. But my question is what has the pushback?
633
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Ben?
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Because you're talking money now, and many people people do
635
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awful things when they're trying to get power and money,
636
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and seventy five million dollars even though you know against six,
637
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.359
say six billion dollars is nothing, that's still a lot
638
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of money.
639
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So are are you getting one company?
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I mean, because I mean they want, they want to
641
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get in here, and you know, twelve million versus seventy
642
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five is still a substantial more money they have.
643
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:38.359
True, and again you're absolutely right, it's there insidious. This
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this the mega marijuana corporations and their desire to be
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in our state overrides you know what. They they claim
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to be safe, and it's just not. I mean, it's
647
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a fallacy. It's an absolute fallacy to say that this
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will be safe and regulated. Because again, any other state
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that has legalized recreational marijuana, they.
650
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See the black market explode.
651
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.000
And why is that. It's because when you put it
652
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in the storefront, it costs more money. And where would
653
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.880
I rather go and get it the less expensive place?
654
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That's true.
655
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.799
Well, I'm just scandalized at all the medical dispensaries that
656
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have popped up in our town.
657
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:25.079
I mean, interest the medical thing was so right, it's
658
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not a big deal. There's not a whole.
659
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Telve years ago there was one. Because now they're.
660
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Everywhere, they will automatically right, and they will automatically be
661
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.960
able to sell recreational.
662
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:42.279
Oh so they're so they're gearing up.
663
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Well that's scaring me thinking about it now, because literally,
664
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I'm not kidding, in the last six months there are
665
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:51.319
so many new ones around here. So so how are
666
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.400
you getting your message out? Because luckily I bumped into
667
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.519
you all and X and and I started stalking you
668
00:33:56.599 --> 00:34:01.680
to come on, because I you know, maybe it's because
669
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:04.839
I am that military woman, and drugs are bad and
670
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.920
I want our children to not be on drugs, you know,
671
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and I and plus I've been to all these damn
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00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.440
states where you smell it all the time and it's horrific,
673
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right right.
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00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.960
Right, yeah, I mean the industry themselves, they've come out
675
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and said that they they will have a pot shop
676
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.639
on every corner. They liken it to Walmart and CBS,
677
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.000
and they will be everywhere. So they've already told us
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00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:33.719
what to anticipate and what we will be basically inundated with.
679
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.239
And you know, we fight back with facts, We fight
680
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.280
back with truth, and we do the best we can.
681
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.920
And we will go anywhere and talk to anybody. So
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00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:47.239
I appreciate you stalking up. You can find us on Facebook, Instagram,
683
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:51.440
and our website and of course on X so yeah,
684
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:55.639
and feel free to again check out our website see
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00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.119
what points are like it.
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00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.719
I liked all the media you know story, I mean,
687
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.280
because they were eye opening.
688
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:05.519
I didn't know about the Citadel guy, you know, and
689
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:06.679
and then and then.
690
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.800
The CEO of truly if was so nonchalant about the
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whole thing.
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00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.719
I'm like, oh my gosh, maybe it's time to start
693
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:18.920
start playing reefer madness again. You know, I don't know
694
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:19.800
if you remember that.
695
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I don't know what that is.
696
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:23.960
Than it was.
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00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.679
It was, you know, a cult.
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00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.480
Oh goodness, gracious. I mean again, we.
699
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:33.320
Have to pay attention, you know when you do talk
700
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about the money. The only organization on any side of
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00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.800
this argument who has gone on record and talk about
702
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:43.840
how this amendment passing would be great for the bottom line,
703
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.760
and again they've been braggadocious about it and said it
704
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:51.159
would be historic is the mega marijuana companies period, And
705
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:55.039
so they're not. Again, it's about money. It's not about
706
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.119
personal freedom, it's not about safety.
707
00:35:58.280 --> 00:35:59.639
This is about how much.
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00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.760
Money is going to be made in this industry's six
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00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.199
billion dollar industry that will triple the marijuana market.
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00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:07.159
Let me ask you.
711
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.119
One more question, because we had the New York Times
712
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:14.760
bestselling author of the Soros Agenda on and soorrow. Seorge
713
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:18.480
Soros has been the daddy of pushing pot. He wants
714
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.800
it everywhere, and I think it's the numbing of society.
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00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:22.199
Are you?
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00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.920
Are you seeing his money here as well when it
717
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.239
comes to wanting to make this legal.
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00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:29.679
You know that I don't know.
719
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.639
I don't mask very well, so I try to leave
720
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.239
all of the finances and everything to you know, all
721
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:37.719
of the others in the campaign. They're a heck of
722
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:39.679
a lot smarter than I am, and I focus on
723
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:41.280
the issues of the amendment.
724
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:45.719
Okay, and then I back to Governor DeSantis. I know
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00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:47.519
he's standing right there with you.
726
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:52.840
Yes, so well, what have we missed?
727
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.480
We appreciate it, doctor, I mean, I think they've talked
728
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.880
about it all, but there's there's still more to talk about.
729
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.559
But we I guess we're I'll have to come back on.
730
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:06.039
Yes, we'd love to have you on you know, of
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October and see you know how it's going. And then
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00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:13.960
you know, I hope you're getting booked on everybody shows
733
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.119
around the state because we need this out there.
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I I am open to all possibilities, and I'm excited.
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I am excited about the efforts that we have.
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And you know, I'm confident because once people hear and.
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Read the truth of.
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What's in that amendment and what's not in that amendment,
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they are a no vote and they will vote no
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in November.
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So I am confident that.
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We will take care of this and this is not
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this is not going to be in our state.
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Well, I'm going to burn this postcard that I got
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right before you came out, literally right before.
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You came on and.
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Right and we've been talking with doctor Jessica Spencer. She
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is the advocacy director and perfect women for the job.
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Vote no on Amendment three, and this really matters for
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the great state of Florida. So God bless you, doctor,
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and we'll have you back again on Veronicalive.
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Thank you so much for Veronica and John