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That feeling of like when you've been away on vacation
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for a long time and then you walk in your house,
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no matter how great the vacation was, that feeling of
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sleeping in your own bed, that's what being grounded feels like.
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So I remember I went through a really bad breakup
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and I was just heart smashed on the sidewalk, miserable. And,
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you know, when you have that, one, you're so raw
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and vulnerable, but you also want to close in. And
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that's when I started doing my energy work on the roof.
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But when I tapped into that energy, I started to
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understand why they say New York is a city that
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never sleeps.
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Because I felt like I could do anything.
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I felt like Superman when I was grounded and balanced
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with the energy. Hi, and welcome to Unlocking the Miracles Within.
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I'm your host, Jeffrey McDonald. We're on episode 20, and
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we're going to be discussing today Sacred Practices for Grounding
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and Balancing. And I have a good friend of mine here,
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Marjorie Fine. I'm so blessed to have her. I've been
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really lucky this season with everyone who I've thought of
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kind of as a first for these sessions said yes,
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thank goodness.
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Yes.
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I think if I had one dome, that was just
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a timing thing and responsibility. So anyway, I've been blessed
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with that, and I'm extremely blessed. Margie, well, I'll say Marjorie.
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You can say Margie.
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Margie, I call her Margie. But we met, geez, many
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years ago.
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She was actually one of my teachers in Eden Method,
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Eden Energy Medicine.
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So, Margie, that would be about 2015.
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Wow. Wow.
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So, yeah, it's been over 10 years.
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Nice.
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And my days of learning Eden Energy Medicine and then
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running the company for about eight and a half years.
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And Margie's an amazing healer and amazing teacher. And she
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just doesn't teach Eden Energy Medicine. She has a lot
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going on in her world. She's a mentor, a coach,
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a person who uplifts others. And somebody who definitely, in
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my mind, knows about grounding and balancing. And we're going
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to be excited to share some tips and techniques here
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with you today. So Margie, welcome to the show. I
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know I'm blessed to have you. So thank you for
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being here.
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Thanks, Jeffrey. I appreciate you asking me. And any opportunity
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to commune with an old energy medicine cohort and talk
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about energy work and spirituality, I'm in.
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That's awesome. I'm excited.
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Because, you know, with these amazing, I call them wisdom keepers,
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and Margie's one of them, you never know what comes out.
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So we're going to let God guide this and hopefully
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some cool and new techniques for you. And first, just
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to understand, you know, why grounding's important. But I wanted
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to mention, Margie just mentioned to me before we started
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the call that, or started the show, that she actually
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lives in a church now. So if you look behind her,
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she was showing me the beams. Yeah, the.
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An old Methodist church you mentioned, right?
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1860.
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That is so awesome.
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She lives in New York, upstate New York. So that
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is pretty, pretty cool. Anyway, I just found that's kind
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of neat. So Margie, I, I, you know, you and
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I've known each other for a long time, but I'm
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sure there are many things I don't know about you.
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So I kind of want to go back in the
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time capsule and maybe talk about like when you Well,
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you had to have a day, I did, right, where
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you were ungrounded and maybe not balanced.
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Maybe one.
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So maybe talk.
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About the time where Margie, the before Margie, and when
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you found this, you know, these techniques and how you
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began to ground and balance.
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I was brought up in New York City in Brooklyn.
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when I had my own place for 20 years, I
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lived on the fourth floor. And so your feet are
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never on the ground. And if they're on the ground
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in New York, they are very rarely on dirt. They're
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on cement. And so that's something, I mean, the beauty
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of that is that I had to figure out how
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to be grounded regardless of where I was, because I
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did not, I live in the country now, but I
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moved here five years ago. So from age zero to 60,
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I lived on concrete. And from 60 to 66 now,
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I've been living in the country. So most of my
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years have been spent on concrete. And so always, despite
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being a city girl, being in nature was huge for me.
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the sister park to Central Park in Manhattan. And I
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will tell you that there were days that I would
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go there and take off my shoes and walk barefoot
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in the city park. Just... just disassociating from anything that
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might be on the ground there, because there's a lot.
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I even knew about energy medicine. I could tell that
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that did something for me. And also, in the last
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place I lived, the last 20 years of my time
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in New York, we had a roof deck that I
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called my top 40. And I started growing stuff up there.
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being outside, I had probably... 50 pots of different sorts
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of plants, things that I ate, flowers, et cetera. And
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it overlooked the whole city skyline. I could see the
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water and even just, and I would go up there
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multiple times a day during any month that was possible
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just to look at plants, touch the dirt, be under
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the sky, whether it was the sun or the moon,
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see the horizon and see the water. And that was
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huge for me. When I moved upstate, My Brooklyn friends
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have said I've gone totally feral, which I think is
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absolutely true and fair. And that's just opened up a
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whole different level. But again, from the beginning, I always
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gravitated to it, just didn't know the reasoning behind it.
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What popped into my head is, I'll tell you a
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little story and you can tell me kind of your
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experience because you've been a lifelong New Yorker and now
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you're out in the country. So my wife and I
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were on a trip to Antigua, a very relaxing trip, beach,
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you know, wonderful, exciting. And we had a stopover in
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New York, and she had never been to New York.
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I said, well, you know, let's stop in. You and
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we had the kids with us. The kids could see
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New York. So I did the, you know, typical tourist thing,
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stayed in Times Square. But it was only one night. Well,
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we get into New York. And, you know, I didn't
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forewarn her. And, you know, I did have the techniques.
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This is when I was with Eden Energy Medicine. But
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I had noticed something extremely palpable when we hit, we
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landed in New York. It was this energy and it
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was so intense. And I knew enough in that moment
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that I was like, if I don't ground myself, we'll
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talk about that more, folks.
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That I'm going to be overwhelmed. And I did not
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coach myself. my beautiful wife, Julie, about this.
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she was in just a miserable state, uh, for the
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day that we were fortunate. We were only there a day,
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but when I tapped into that energy, I started to
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understand why they say New York is a city that
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never sleeps because I felt like I could do anything.
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I felt like Superman. when I was grounded and balanced
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with the energy. And it gave me this palpable understanding
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of the difference between an energy of like an Antigua
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and an energy of New York City.
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Yeah, that's pretty different, man. You know, one thing that's
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really interesting about New York, and I think this is
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one reason why people struggle with the energy sometimes, is
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that You were, I mean, I lived on one city
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block in Brooklyn and there was probably a thousand people. And,
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you know, I always get the image of the shoe,
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like of the back room of the shoe store with that,
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there's a little, you know, one box that's slid in
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with a million other boxes. And that's what your apartment is.
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You're surrounded by people, but people also wall themselves off.
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So in the country, if I pass by someone, I
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don't know, we say, hi, we say, good morning, we smile.
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In New York, that does, I do it, but most
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people do not. So it's this weird combination of just
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thousands of the energy of thousands of people around you,
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but no one's interacting. And I think that phenomenon is
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because people don't know how to manage the energy. So
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they wall themselves off. So understanding energy work was really
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helpful for me to understand how to leave my energy open,
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you know, not completely vulnerable to anyone who walks by,
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but to not completely be completely walled off. So when
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you are blocked off from something, the intensity of it builds.
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And when you have a little bit of healthy interaction
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with it, it eases. It's a really weird dichotomy of
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New York. And you think most people who come to
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New York are foreigners. They don't even speak the language.
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They don't understand the customs. It's that much more complicated.
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Intensive.
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Yeah, so maybe take me back to a time. I
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know you're extremely intuitive and you connect with folks and
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you've been a healer for so many years. But take
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me back to a time when you maybe felt vulnerable
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and Um, like you said, like being in New York, right.
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such a tough skin as a young lady, but you know, like,
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was there a time when you maybe, maybe around the
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time when you found energy medicine, I don't know where
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you're like, wow, this really made a difference for me
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understanding grounding and protecting my anyway.
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Yeah. So I remember I went through a really bad
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breakup and I was just hard smashed on the sidewalk, miserable.
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And when you have that, one, you're so raw and vulnerable,
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but you also want to close in. And that's when
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I started doing my energy work on the roof. So
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I would do it on the roof deck every day. One,
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just the feeling of expansiveness. And it put me in
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touch with... So those of us in energy medicine know
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that the most powerful movements of energy is the yin
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energy that comes up from the earth and floods us.
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And the young masculine energy that comes down from the
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earth and grounds us. And that's like our energy superhighway.
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And so I learned that being outdoors and doing my
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energy work was like 20 times more powerful than doing
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it in my apartment. And that was a way that
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I could hook in. I mean, when you think about
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mother earth energy, she doesn't care what we do to her.
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She's still spinning around. And the Father heavenly energy, that
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sun comes up every day and warms us and feeds us.
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It is impervious to the little puny things that we do.
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And so being outside and being more directly in that flow.
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Mother Earth and we are held by Father Sky. And
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they want us to commune with them. So first it
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was just, I wonder what it'll feel like to do
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my energy work on the roof. And then it was like, whoa,
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that was a really good idea in that energy. And
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this description I'm giving kind of came together over time
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when I would do it first thing in the morning
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as the sun was coming up, last thing in the
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evening when the sun was going down, and it hooked
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me into those energies. And I've never lost that feeling
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of having those powerful moments energetic forces, a magical forces,
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they're always ready to accompany me.
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So I think that leads us into, you know, maybe
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given some people that don't understand what grounding and balancing,
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you know, you talked about the yin and the yang,
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you know, hopefully most folks have seen that symbol of,
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you know, the white and the black and kind of interconnected, um,
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you know, the energies that's the, you know, the Chinese
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way of looking at, at, uh, us. and chi and
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energy and all those fun terms we use for energy.
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But let's start getting into the practical side and talk about, yeah,
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maybe just start, you're such a wonderful teacher, maybe just
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start at the basics of how you would describe grounding
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to a person that has never experienced that before.
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Awesome. So there are two main ways, there are two
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main ways that we're grounded. One is this yin and
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yang flow that I just described, and I'm going to
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bit better. Okay. Just tilt so people can. Oops. Let
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me keep my head in the picture.
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You'd be the headless horseman there.
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So I love to describe it this way. When I
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first went to massage school and I got a massage license,
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I studied anatomy and physiology and they have what they
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call anatomical position, which is how you study the human body.
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that they describe everything from. And it's basically the image
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of a cadaver, of someone dead on a table. In
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Chinese medicine, their neutral position is this. An alive human
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being standing within the dynamic interplay of yin energy coming
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up from the earth, and yang energy coming down from
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the heavens. So the most basic yin and yang are
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the complimentary forces in Chinese medicine that create all of life.
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This balance of internal bringing things in, external moving things out,
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the sun and the moon, the rise and the fall.
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that movement of energy. So again, yin energy comes up
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from mother earth. It travels up our body. and goes
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out up into the heavens. Yang energy comes down from
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the heavens, travels down our body, and grabs us into
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the ground, kind of like the green wire in a house.
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be grounded or ungrounded. For some people, that yin energy
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is not coming in very well. It enters the body,
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whatever reason, that point can get kind of closed and
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that yin energy does not come up. So for some people,
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that yin energy doesn't come up very well, but the
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yang is coming down fine. For other people, the yang
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energy does not come down well. And that goes back
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into the earth through the kind of this little notch
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in our pinky toe. So sometimes, for example, maybe the
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crown of the head is clogged or that pinky toe
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point is clogged. So that yang energy does not come down.
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yin's not coming up. The yang's not coming down. But
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for many folks, one is working and one is not.
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or not. The other is that we have a magnetic
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relationship to the earth. So we think of gravity like
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we don't float around. We are stuck to the earth.
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let's say, a south pole, and I'll call this a
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north pole, if I put them together, it sticks. But
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if I put, I'm sorry, let me put it together,
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it sticks. If I put south to south or north
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to north, they repel. So the crust of the earth
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is considered a north polarity, and the bottom of our
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feet should be a south. So when that's correct, we
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stick to the earth. Again, it's always because of illness
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or stress or a sudden shock. Sometimes it can reverse things.
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north pole as well, against the north pole of the earth,
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and we repel. It's a gentle feeling of being repelled
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from the earth rather than gluing to the earth. Was
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that reasonably clear? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I want to let the folks know that our– because
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we do a video and audio version, Margie, of the show.
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So I want to let the folks know that with
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this particular– her discussion, she was demonstrating a lot of things.
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you can go check out the video on YouTube. The
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links are in the, in the, um, post you saw
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on social media.
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I will add some images in of these different points
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and different images that Margie talked about that you could
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go download. So don't get too hung up if you're,
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you know, you're driving and listening to the show and
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You're like, oh, what is she showing? It's hard to
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talk about these things sometimes for audio only. But no,
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it's going to be available to you. Or you can
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go watch us on YouTube and you can actually see
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this video of it. So, yeah, I mean, that's very clear.
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Those are the nuts and bolts of grounding.
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Yeah, nuts and bolts of grounding. And I think what
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you were talking about a little bit earlier, you were
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talking about the heaven and the earth. energy and the
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whole point is to be balanced, right? To have that
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energy because sometimes you could be unbalanced. So maybe talk
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about that a little bit. What does it look like,
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feel like to be ungrounded, unbalanced?
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It feels really bad, Jeffrey. So the first thing is,
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one thing I always love to tell students and folks
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in situations like this is Chinese medicine considers a healthy
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human who lives an equal measure of yin and yang.
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And let's be clear that in our culture, yin, meaning repose, rest, contemplation,
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as opposed to yang, accomplishing, action, doing, yin is not
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appreciated in our culture. At parties sometimes I'll ask friends,
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how do you feel if you don't accomplish something for
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an entire day and most people feel pretty bad? I
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feel fabulous about that. So just to keep that in
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mind that our culture does not support the healthy balance
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of action and repose. So, you know, usually a friend
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of mine always draws a balloon without a string that's
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just floating. It can often be translated as a, what
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I feel in myself is just a systemic sensation of
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a slight anxiety. It's not big. It is just It's
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like this feeling when you really feel at home and
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you're walking around and you just somehow feel comfortable in
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yourself skin. And when you're not grounded, it's, um, it's like,
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it's kind of like, I always use a New Yorker.
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I use the example of being like a little kid
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in Macy's and you lost sight of your mom, you know? So,
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and you might see her a second later, but for
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that one moment, it's like you're disconnected from your mother.
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when we're not grounded in an energetic and spiritual sense
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and we feel it. So when you are not grounded,
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you might feel a light sense of anxiety, a slight,
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I find myself walking faster when I don't have to,
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a little bit of a harder time relaxing. I might
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reach for something else. Like that's when I'll find myself
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sometimes in like using, let's say, scrolling on Instagram or
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some other way to kind of disassociate or zone out
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a little bit those are the signals for me and
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it will be different for different people but I would
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say that that if you kind of think about how
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you feel when you just like you're walking you're doing
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your thing and you just feel in your body in
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your space in your groove and those feelings and for
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some and usually you there's not a reason for it.
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you know, upsetting happens, I know why I'm upset. This
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is going to be much more, um, like, uh, kind
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of existential. Like there's nothing happened. Why am I feeling
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slightly uncomfortable? It's going to be more that sort of thing.
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Yeah. I, uh, there's a couple of thoughts I had.
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It's like, You can get thrown off center.
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I mean, obviously, most people, it's usually the ones close
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to you, like your family or your loved ones. But
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as I was telling you about that New York trip,
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when this all became really clear to me was actually
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the first, I think it was right after I started
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energy medicine. And then I went to Costa Rica. And
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I mean, it just felt like just the world exploded
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for me. And I remember that first night we were
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in a beautiful resort. Everything was fine. And there's just
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things were not clicking, you know? And I remember that
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first night, Julie and I went to kiss each other
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and we, we bumped heads and actually my head hit
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her cheek and her cheeks swelled up. And I thought,
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Oh my God, you know, we're having this amazing vacation.
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I just now disfigured my wife's face. And so I
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knew energy work at the time. So I did energy
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work on her. And fortunately, by the time we woke up,
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the swelling had gone away. And I was like, thank you.
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I had got connected with Costa Rica and I prayed
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and I, you know, I talked about clearing energies. Um,
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you know, I did all the things that I do.
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And once I did that, it was just like a
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world of difference. So, I mean, just everything went perfect
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after that point. So, so, you know, when you, you're right,
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like when you don't feel like you're, you're, you're disconnected,
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you're not present. And I love the fact that you
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talked about it being subtle, but, you know, for me,
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because I think, I think it, the way I look
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at it now, when I go to a different place,
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I always pray and connect and ground and, and, you know, um,
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just because I know I'm in a different energetic framework.
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Than where I came from. And that's an easy way
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to become ungrounded.
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Yeah. You know, I find it really interesting because anyone
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would think that being in, I think you and I
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were at that class together, Jeffrey.
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Oh, no, no. Fortunately it wasn't that trip.
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It was a different one. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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But we went, yeah, we did go to class.
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You know, if you're used to living in New York
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city and you're used to being contained in a certain way,
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and then all of a sudden you land in the tropics.
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I mean, all of this to say that, you know,
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you would think that going from that city to that
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beautiful place, tropical, colorful nature, you would feel amazing. But
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that's more than what we're used to containing in a
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different way. And all of a sudden, you might feel
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more open. And all of a sudden, that's a little jangly.
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So I find it really interesting, no matter where you go,
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whether it's from Costa Rica to New York or New
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York to Costa Rica, there's going to be an energetic adjustment.
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It's funny, I have two cats who lived in my
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little 650 square foot apartment for eight years. And when
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they came upstate, one of my cats went a little crazy.
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And I think it was just, what the heck is
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all this space and all of these smells and what
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is going on? And it took her a while to
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get her, she started like chasing and being mean to
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her brother and which they always like had a love fest. And,
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but it was super interesting. Now they're in heaven, but
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it really showed me that even going into You know,
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they say when you're a fly in a jar and
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you take the lid off, they don't know how to
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fly out right away. You're used to that safety zone.
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So any kind of shift.
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Whatever framework that you built. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's wonderful.
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Animals is a great, you know, a great way to
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watch grounding connectedness or ungrounding.
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I mean, how many animals when they go to a different,
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even a different home or whatever, they're just.
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So, you know, out of sorts. Anyway. Anyway.
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So yeah, let's, let's shift a little bit into, um, again,
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using your amazing teaching skills. Um, I just had this
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vision of you on the roof doing your exercises. Um,
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and again, for the folks that are just listening, you know,
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we'll share whatever exercises that we do here, but I
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was thinking like, what, you know, when you went up
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there in the morning, what were some of the simple
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things that you did?
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Maybe you can, you can show the audience here.
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Um, yeah. So, um, One really simple one, and this
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is actually not an Eden Energy exercise, it's a Qigong exercise.
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with it most days. It's really simple. Let me just
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get the angle right here. And for those of you
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who are not out there, I'm holding my hands one
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on top of the other, just like the back of
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one hand to the palm of the other, kind of
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right at my groin area. And what I'm going to
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do is as I breathe in, this is called a
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Qigong move and I use what's called an ocean breath
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with it. So the breath is in the nose and
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out the mouth with a sigh. So if my hands
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are just right in front of kind of my pubic area,
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as I breathe in, I'm slowly raising my hands up
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just about over my head and then I'm turning them
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so they're palm down. And as I exhale, I'm just
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slowly bringing that energy down. And this is a fantastic
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ancient way of getting the yin and yang energy to go,
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and it feels great. Keep your knees nice and soft,
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and again, at the groin, palms up, bring the energy in,
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bring it in through the nose, palms down, and push
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the energy back down to the groin. And again, inhale,
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palms up to the head, exhale, palms down. And this
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is just such a powerful, simple way to encourage that
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yin and yang movement before you even do anything else.
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So that's one of my favorites. Another one I really
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like is a type of what we call in Eden
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Energy Medicine, a hookup. And what I'm going to do is,
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let's see how I can show that. So I'm doing
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this sitting down. So if you just, what I'm going
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to do is I'm going to sit on the top
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of my hand. So I'm just going to put my
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hand on my chair underneath my butt, and I'm just
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going to sit on it with the palm down. And
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then the other hand, I can do two things. The
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first thing is I'm just going to hold my crown.
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And when I do this, I'm engaging the root chakra,
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obviously that I'm sitting on, and the crown chakra. The
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root chakra is deeply connected to the earth. The crown
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chakra is deeply connected to the heavens. And I'm going
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to sit with my back straight and I'm going to
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use that breath. When you do what's called that ocean breath,
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it tells your body that you're safe. We never breathe
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that way unless we are getting into a hot bath,
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getting into a warm bed or Settling with a book
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with a cat or a dog on our lap. It
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tells the body to go into parasympathetic. So it's a
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great breath to use to enhance any energy exercise. So
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I just have my hands in that position and I'm
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just going to do three nice breaths there in the nose. Ah. Ah. Ah.
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I love that. And if you want to use a
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visualization to enhance that, what I do is as I
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breathe in, I imagine this white light kind of pulsing
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out from my chest. And as I exhale, I send
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the white energy down to the earth and up to
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the heavens. And as I inhale, I bring them back
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to my heart. So it's kind of like this energy,
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you are expanding the heart energy, then you're Inhaling it
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down to Mother Earth and up to Father Sky. And
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then you're exhaling it back to the heart from both directions.
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So that's an energetic way or visualization you can use
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to enhance it, to really always start with the heart
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energy and then send it down and up and then
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back again. And it's a beautiful way to get an
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energetic and for me, a spiritual exchange with heaven and earth.
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As I'm moving the energy in my body, you know, every, every...
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And every energetic aspect of our body has a yin
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and or a yang quality to it. So when you
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move that yin and yang energy, you are giving all
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of them, every cell of your body, every energy. aspect
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of your body, you are flooding it with those resources.
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So don't underestimate the power, the immense power of some
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of these very, very simple foundational practices.
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That's what is amazing about doing the energy work or
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you call these ancient traditions that have been taught in
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different ways. Like, you know, you were sharing Qigong and
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how simple it is and people don't. One of the
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things that, two questions. One, I noticed you were adding
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sound to it on your exhale.
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Is that important? Is there a particular?
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It's not necessary, but I will tell you that just,
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I mean, some people don't like making sounds, but if
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you're by yourself, what the hell? I will say that
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I think adding the sound enhances it. But if you're
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someone for whom that feels uncomfortable, it's not going to
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enhance it for you. So it can just be... Yeah.
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You don't have to make the noise with it.
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You don't. You can make it a soft, you know, very,
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very gentle, as long as a nice loose jaw and
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exhaling completely through the mouth. But if it's not, unless
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it's really uncomfortable, I would suggest experimenting Do three breaths
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without sound and then do three breaths. And as you exhale,
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just imagine that it's been a freezing cold day and
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you're getting into a hot bath with smelly bubbles in it.
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You know what I mean? Like, oh, there's something to
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that sighing that helps. But again, if something stresses you,
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it ain't helping. So don't do it.
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I wanted to bring up one question for you. And
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I don't know if we've ever chatted about this, but
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I had found, you know, because you can't go outside
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all the time and be like, right now, today's cold
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will be the last thing I want to do. Um,
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but I had found a lot of my, even before
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I started energy medicine, but a lot of my prayers
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and those kinds of things were more effective when I
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was taking a shower. And, um, so I started doing,
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you know, I'll do tapping and different energy things in
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the shower. try to be more intentional when I'm connected
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to water. So it seems to work really well for me.
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And I know that's a big thing Julie does. She
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does her daily energy routine, which, by the way, folks,
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I think I've shared this before on the show, but
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for those of you that listen to this for the
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first time, we'll share the.
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Link to that.
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There's an Eden Energy Medicine daily energy routine where Margie
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and I both learned from Donna Eden. And Margie's actually
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a senior faculty for eating method she teaches a lot
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of different things for them but it's a great simple
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eight minute energy routine that you can do daily that
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keeps you your field clear grounded connected so we'll share
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the link to that on the podcast notes but i
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know my wife she does that every morning in the
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shower so what is your take on that on.
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I think it's great i think that um you know
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for anyone who knows anything about five elements, Jeffrey's a
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pretty solid water element. So water's a great element for him.
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I don't know what element his wife is. I'm a
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pretty woody and earthy person. So for example, I will
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often do my routine, even if it's, I mean, upstate
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New York, we have some pretty deadly winters. I'll do
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it in front of the window and I'll look at
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the trees in the mountains. So for me, that's really grounding.
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Sometimes I, you know, for example, I will always light
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candles there. You can't see, but there's at least five
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or six candles there. lit around my space. So I
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think it's really, really great to experiment with bringing different
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elemental aspects to it. Do it while you're looking at
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a flame. Do it while you're looking out the window
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and seeing the mountains and the trees. Do it in
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the shower. I have a pretty powerful psychic and shaman.
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And he says every single time that he brushes his teeth,
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He thinks about how he's cleansing his mouth so he
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can speak with more truth. And he's washing his body.
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He's letting all of the negativity and dirt or whatever
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accumulated to go back into Mother Earth to be reconstituted
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for something. And he thinks about when he starts to eat,
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like he always thanks the food and expresses gratitude that
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he's being nourished. I mean, it's not every second, but
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it's just how long does it take before you brush
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your teeth to imagine that you're just washing your mouth?
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those little practices are super powerful and they add up.
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So I think, you know, when you think about being
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the shower and that water is pouring over you and
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cleansing you, moving the energy while you do energy work
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is fabulous. But I just want to broaden that, that
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people can find all different ways of playing with that.
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I often do different practices in front of different altars
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and I will often put whatever, I'll put different aspects there.
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Like sometimes I'll just get a little bowl of water
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and I'll just meditate lightly staring into it. Other times
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I'll meditate very soft, like not quite closed eyes, soft
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eyes staring at a flame. And it's different. So I say,
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you know, throw stuff on the wall and see what
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sticks for you. Because if you experiment, you're going to
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see that, wow, you know, that flame really does something
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for me. Other people, the shower rocks their world.
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Yeah, you just reminded me of the main principle that
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Donna taught us, which.
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Is, you know, we're all unique, right? We're all unique.
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We're all unique. And I do think, you know, it's
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great to see what, like, I have certain aspects that
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come really naturally to me and others don't. Sometimes I
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will really lean, like, if I'm going through a difficult time,
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I will always lean on the things that feel more
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natural and supportive. So then I will always look at
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the trees and the mountains or try to do my
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routine outside if the weather permits. But if I'm feeling
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in a stronger place and I want to try to
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expand myself, then water for me was my least prevalent element.
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And so I started doing something I call nothing to
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do and all day to do it, which is a
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very watery thing. Watery people tend to not like to
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have schedules. They just drift through the day. And At
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first it was like, oh man, not again. You'll be
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happy to know, Jeffrey, that I love it now. But
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I won't do that if I'm in a stressed state.
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Then I need to lean on my natural attributes. But
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if I'm feeling a little stronger, then I will stretch
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myself to some of these others and they become friends.
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And they might not be my native tongue, my mother tongue,
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but there are languages I can speak now. And sometimes
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what needs to be expressed... needs to be expressed in
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that language.
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And I think what Margie's talking about a lot here,
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I just had the vision again, you know, so there's
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the Chinese five elements and you have fire, earth, water, metal, water, wood,
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and each one of those, it's a brilliant system.
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It really is.
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And, you know, I'd encourage you, if you have any
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interest in that, you can learn that. I I know
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there's some stuff with Eden. I know Dundee, Dallin, Donna's
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daughter does a lot with the five elements. I think
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she has a book out there. You can also take
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a test and kind of test what you are. What
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I think is most brilliant about that system is how
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it ties kind of your tendencies to energetics and emotions.
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It helps you be more compassionate with differences inside yourself
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and inside others.
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I think there's just a beautiful thing to that.
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But I wanted to say that, you know, I think
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we're all meant to have all the elements in balance, right?
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A hundred percent. A hundred percent. You know, it's funny.
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I still remember, you know, I am primary wood and
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I'm from New York. We don't tend to be the
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most patient people in the world. And I remember like
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learning about wood. So wood people were very directive. We
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get things done. We're good leaders and visionaries, but when
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we're stressed, that can become impatience and anger and bossiness, criticalness,
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things like that, frustration. And I remember I was on
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a line for something in New York and it was
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taking so long and everyone was procrastinating. I could feel
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the pressure building. And I was thinking, what is wrong
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with you? Like get a grip girl. And then I thought,
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wait a minute, you're not just a big old bitch.
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You're just a one out of balance. You know, like
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I'm not a bad person. I'm just out of balance
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in my element. And it's, Every element is unpleasant when
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it's out of balance and everyone is beautiful to be
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around when it is. So it took the judgment out
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of it for me. But also the beautiful thing for
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me was that it really made, encouraged me to start
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learning the other languages because as a practitioner, if I
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get someone who's a primary water, like wood people are,
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there's a problem. What is the straightest arrow between me
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and that problem? I just want to look right for
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the solution. If you're a different element, more fiery, more watery,
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That's not how you work. So if I want to
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be an effective practitioner, I need to be able to
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speak those other languages and understand them. And I know
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I became a much more effective practitioner because I would
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start to speak those other languages and people would feel
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just inherently more understood by me without even understanding why.
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Like for example, people who are very earthy They're not
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self motivated. They're motivated by their community and by their family.
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So I might say to them, you know, the healthier
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you are, then you model that for your family and
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they get to see that. Or maybe you could do
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this with your family. So I would, you know, try
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to use languages and methods that would speak their language
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that would motivate them to take care of themselves. That
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would not be how I would speak to a water element.
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So when you start to learn these languages, not just
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with clients, but then with other friends and family, it
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creates these beautiful bridges and not everyone is like us,
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you know? So, and I don't want to be just
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around woody people. I want to be with other people
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as well. So it balances me and increases my effectiveness
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as a practitioner and makes me a better friend. Yeah. Yeah.
717
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And that was what I was thinking about was for,
718
00:40:11.210 --> 00:40:13.510
so there's a bunch of folks out there that probably
719
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are listening to this by like, well, how does this
720
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apply to me?
721
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Blah, blah, blah.
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00:40:17.409 --> 00:40:20.869
You've had thousands of clients you've worked on. I don't
723
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know how many, but I know you've worked on a lot.
724
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You've been doing it so long. Maybe give folks some
725
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:31.920
examples of, you know, you have clients come in, and
726
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:35.019
I know we used to talk about it at Eden.
727
00:40:36.059 --> 00:40:40.860
Most everybody's ungrounded or unbalanced. How does that show up?
728
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I mean, you know, I don't put you on the
729
00:40:43.130 --> 00:40:45.389
spot here, but maybe some of the more common ways
730
00:40:45.449 --> 00:40:48.550
that shows up for your clients. So people that are
731
00:40:48.570 --> 00:40:51.230
listening can go, oh, man, that's going on in my life,
732
00:40:51.510 --> 00:40:51.789
you know?
733
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Yeah. So and honestly, you know, it's interesting because when
734
00:40:57.179 --> 00:41:01.039
I mentor new practitioners and students and I work with
735
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.929
people who are in the energy world, I have to.
736
00:41:05.739 --> 00:41:08.079
patiently back them up because they want to get to
737
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.139
things that they think are more interesting. And I actually, like,
738
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I just want to get, honestly, this is the perfect
739
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.420
subject to bring to me, Jeffrey, because grounding is the
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00:41:17.500 --> 00:41:21.489
very first thing I do. It's like making sure, it's
741
00:41:21.510 --> 00:41:23.329
like if I want to plant things in my yard
742
00:41:23.690 --> 00:41:26.030
and the dirt is dry and it hasn't been turned
743
00:41:26.170 --> 00:41:29.090
over in 10 years, I can have the best seeds
744
00:41:29.130 --> 00:41:31.409
in the world. Nothing's going to grow. But when you
745
00:41:31.449 --> 00:41:33.889
till the soil and get some water in there and
746
00:41:33.949 --> 00:41:36.929
move it around, it starts growing without before even putting
747
00:41:36.949 --> 00:41:39.429
your seeds in there. And that's what the grounding is.
748
00:41:40.050 --> 00:41:43.760
It's just the soil from which everything else springs, every
749
00:41:43.820 --> 00:41:50.460
other energy. So very often, first of all, like physically,
750
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.039
I will often see trouble with digestion. Digestion is a
751
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:59.510
very earthy physical thing that we do. And it's very
752
00:41:59.570 --> 00:42:05.829
affected by stress and being ungrounded. So certainly, digestion is something,
753
00:42:06.250 --> 00:42:10.849
but really like anxiety, depression, you know, a lot of
754
00:42:10.869 --> 00:42:15.679
these emotional stressors that people deal with is because they're
755
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:21.099
not grounded. You don't have that inherent feeling of safety.
756
00:42:21.219 --> 00:42:23.420
It's like when I lived in the city, I would
757
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walk in the park, but I wouldn't walk at night
758
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.869
because any public park, any of you out there go
759
00:42:27.909 --> 00:42:29.630
to New York, do not walk in the parks at night.
760
00:42:30.090 --> 00:42:33.900
But sometimes it would be like dusk. And I thought, okay,
761
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:37.659
I can do this. And it'd be this slight sensation
762
00:42:37.780 --> 00:42:43.610
of heightened vigilance and heightened awareness. I wasn't quite as
763
00:42:43.670 --> 00:42:46.889
relaxed with it. That's the best way I can describe
764
00:42:46.949 --> 00:42:50.530
the feeling in you when you're not grounded. So there
765
00:42:50.570 --> 00:42:54.280
might be just, you know, people are a little more vigilant.
766
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:58.440
They're a little, they kind of, look for reasons not
767
00:42:58.539 --> 00:43:02.699
to feel safe, not to relax because they don't have
768
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:07.340
that foundational way of feeling safe and at home. The
769
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feeling of like when you've been away on vacation for
770
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.639
a long time and then you walk in your house,
771
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.840
no matter how great the vacation was, that feeling of
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sleeping in your own bed, that's what being grounded feels like.
773
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.460
The feeling of eating your own food, of looking at
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00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:25.239
the stuff in your house, being with your pets, that
775
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.829
just deep sensation of like being at home, being in
776
00:43:28.869 --> 00:43:31.469
the pocket. That's what it feels like when we're grounded.
777
00:43:32.070 --> 00:43:36.719
And unfortunately, many, many, many of us don't walk around
778
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:41.659
feeling that way. So I will look for just in
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00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:46.500
their language, their body language, what they're talking about, this
780
00:43:46.659 --> 00:43:50.440
general feeling of, is this person at home in their life?
781
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.360
Or are they not at home in their life? And
782
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that can express in a number of different ways, you know,
783
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.500
whether it's a little bit of anxiety, a little bit
784
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of disconnection, the color feels a little turned down on
785
00:44:03.989 --> 00:44:05.710
their TV, like everything's just.
786
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A little duller, or it's turned up a little too high.
787
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You know, it's a little too bright. There's a lot
788
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of foods they can't eat. They're sensitive to many, many things.
789
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It's one thing just to be allergic to goldenrod. It's
790
00:44:20.340 --> 00:44:23.289
another thing that Every plant, dust.
791
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Mold, EMFs, all of that affects you. So this kind
792
00:44:27.670 --> 00:44:34.599
of systemic feeling, whether it's physical or emotional, about not
793
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quite feeling safe and at home.
794
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Yeah, and I had this vision while you were talking
795
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about someone listening to the show, they're driving their car.
796
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And they're like, oh, that's me. You know, I'm just
797
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.269
having a, I'm just really off, you know. or somebody
798
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at work and they're like, well, I can't stand up
799
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and do the, you know, the breathing technique or even
800
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do the hookup.
801
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Right.
802
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Cause they got their hands on the steering wheel. It's like,
803
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what can I do right now?
804
00:45:05.300 --> 00:45:08.800
Right now. So for example, if you do that visualization
805
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of the energy in the heart and you can do
806
00:45:12.539 --> 00:45:14.280
it one at a time. So you, you just like
807
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:17.679
imagine there's a white, warm energy in the center of
808
00:45:17.699 --> 00:45:19.960
the heart and with every inhale it's expanding a little
809
00:45:19.980 --> 00:45:22.969
bit and every exhale it's contracting a little bit you
810
00:45:23.010 --> 00:45:26.510
start there then when you inhale you send the energy
811
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down to mother earth and you bring the white end
812
00:45:29.730 --> 00:45:32.210
and exhale bring it back to the heart do that
813
00:45:32.250 --> 00:45:35.130
a few times same thing inhale send it up to
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00:45:35.150 --> 00:45:38.150
the heavens exhale bring it back to the heart so
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you can do that no matter where you are if
816
00:45:40.099 --> 00:45:41.860
you're driving do not do it with your eyes closed
817
00:45:43.219 --> 00:45:46.239
And if you add that breathing to it, just breathing
818
00:45:46.380 --> 00:45:49.469
in the nose and out the mouth tells the body
819
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to relax. And I will use that. I will be,
820
00:45:52.449 --> 00:45:55.210
you know, friends of mine teach like yoga classes and stuff.
821
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And they always say they love when I go because
822
00:45:57.409 --> 00:46:00.230
they can tell when something's working because they'll hear me exhale.
823
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I can't control it. I'll be like, ah. And what
824
00:46:04.050 --> 00:46:06.309
a funny thing is, the rest of the room will
825
00:46:06.349 --> 00:46:09.309
often start doing it with me. So you don't have
826
00:46:09.349 --> 00:46:11.730
to do it with the sound, but exhaling through the
827
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mouth with a gentle sigh as you inhale through, but
828
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you can just do that visualization. And I'm telling you
829
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that will enhance your grounding. Yeah.
830
00:46:20.269 --> 00:46:23.489
And it's, uh, I would say it's something I've experienced
831
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with grounding or, you know, just being better at sensing
832
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:28.780
when I'm off.
833
00:46:29.820 --> 00:46:30.099
Yeah.
834
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The more you do it, it's like, it's like working
835
00:46:32.780 --> 00:46:35.059
a muscle, right? Like the more you do it, the more,
836
00:46:35.099 --> 00:46:39.389
you know, like, Oh, And I was, I was going
837
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through that and I went back to the, I was
838
00:46:41.170 --> 00:46:41.889
thinking of the driving.
839
00:46:41.909 --> 00:46:42.030
Yeah.
840
00:46:42.050 --> 00:46:43.489
Don't close your eyes while you're driving.
841
00:46:43.989 --> 00:46:44.170
Yeah.
842
00:46:44.510 --> 00:46:46.550
But one of the things that happens to me, especially
843
00:46:46.570 --> 00:46:50.409
if I'm on a longer run is if I am
844
00:46:50.469 --> 00:46:54.050
grounded in a, I, I, a car is actually for me,
845
00:46:54.110 --> 00:46:57.940
an amazing place to connect with spirit. I think it's
846
00:46:58.019 --> 00:47:00.599
because of the, I don't want to call it the
847
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.349
rote nature of driving. Like you're, yes, you're attentive and
848
00:47:05.389 --> 00:47:08.880
you're vigilant and all that, but there's not a whole
849
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:14.260
lot of other processing going on other than driving. But
850
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:20.570
maybe talk about that a little bit, about the spiritual
851
00:47:21.690 --> 00:47:24.889
nature and importance of grounding.
852
00:47:25.889 --> 00:47:28.610
Yeah. So when you think about it, what is the
853
00:47:28.650 --> 00:47:31.730
purpose of spirituality? I mean, I think the purpose of spirituality,
854
00:47:31.750 --> 00:47:35.900
at least for me, is to feel more connected to
855
00:47:35.980 --> 00:47:39.489
all that is, you know, regardless. I'm a Jewish person
856
00:47:39.570 --> 00:47:42.349
who lives in a church and who's a bit of
857
00:47:42.409 --> 00:47:47.250
a pagan. And I will grab, I feel very lucky
858
00:47:47.329 --> 00:47:49.969
that I was brought up Jewish, but I didn't, I
859
00:47:50.010 --> 00:47:52.260
wasn't forced to go to synagogue. I wasn't forced to
860
00:47:52.300 --> 00:47:54.679
get a bat mitzvah. So there was no repelling to that.
861
00:47:56.199 --> 00:48:00.179
And so in my spirituality, I will grab whatever works
862
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.849
for me and bring that into my life. So I
863
00:48:03.909 --> 00:48:08.070
think for me, spirituality is how do I ever more
864
00:48:08.329 --> 00:48:14.599
expand my capacity as a human to love myself, expand
865
00:48:14.619 --> 00:48:18.239
that love out to others, to expand myself as a human,
866
00:48:18.659 --> 00:48:21.559
to always try to be a positive healing force in
867
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.219
the world for myself, for my friends and family, for
868
00:48:25.260 --> 00:48:32.190
my students and my colleagues, for my community, town, city, state, world, universe,
869
00:48:32.650 --> 00:48:36.920
et cetera. So it always starts with me. And I
870
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.440
find that, and so that is my, and I state
871
00:48:40.460 --> 00:48:42.820
that as an intention pretty much every day in front
872
00:48:42.860 --> 00:48:45.329
of an altar before I do my energy work. So
873
00:48:45.349 --> 00:48:50.690
it's pretty powerful for me. And I'm a human being
874
00:48:50.929 --> 00:48:53.590
and stuff happens and throws me off. And I'm cranky
875
00:48:53.610 --> 00:48:55.750
with someone or mean to someone or mean to myself.
876
00:48:55.829 --> 00:48:58.250
And all of that happens. Stating the intention is very
877
00:48:58.309 --> 00:49:02.929
powerful for me. But again, to me, being a real
878
00:49:02.989 --> 00:49:10.130
adherent of energy medicine, doing that grounding connection to the
879
00:49:10.269 --> 00:49:14.550
earth and the sky feels like I am enlisting these
880
00:49:14.849 --> 00:49:19.590
unbelievably powerful forces of nature to partner with me in
881
00:49:19.630 --> 00:49:24.130
my quest. So, you know, again, what am I capable
882
00:49:24.190 --> 00:49:26.250
of physically? You know, I'm a pretty strong chick. I
883
00:49:26.269 --> 00:49:28.789
can do a lot, but can I spin my earth
884
00:49:28.849 --> 00:49:32.300
in his access? No. Can I make the sunrise and
885
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.840
the sunset? No, you know, I can't do those. I'm
886
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.389
like a, grain of sand next to, you know, a
887
00:49:40.489 --> 00:49:44.550
monumental mountain, you know, next to the entire earth. So
888
00:49:44.610 --> 00:49:50.449
when I ground myself, I am communing with and enlisting
889
00:49:50.650 --> 00:49:54.739
those huge forces of nature who are rooting me on.
890
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.880
For me, when I enlist those forces, not only am
891
00:49:58.940 --> 00:50:01.619
I gaining from them, but they are cheering me on
892
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.179
because they want nature. We're part of nature. It wants
893
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:09.309
us to commune and enlist And those forces of nature
894
00:50:09.489 --> 00:50:15.789
are both physical and spiritual to me. They're incredible physical
895
00:50:15.849 --> 00:50:20.730
forces that create and move our world. But they're also,
896
00:50:20.750 --> 00:50:24.769
it's a mother and a father that is always available
897
00:50:24.829 --> 00:50:26.949
to me. And that feeds me. I mean, I don't
898
00:50:26.969 --> 00:50:29.150
know about you, but many of us did not have
899
00:50:29.170 --> 00:50:32.610
the best parents in the world. If you're lucky enough
900
00:50:32.650 --> 00:50:36.309
to have really healthy, loving parents, both mother and father,
901
00:50:36.909 --> 00:50:38.329
I hate to say it, but I think you're the
902
00:50:38.369 --> 00:50:42.780
exception in life. So for me also to know that
903
00:50:42.820 --> 00:50:44.929
that mother is always there and that father is always
904
00:50:44.969 --> 00:50:47.900
there that I can tap into and co-create with, um,
905
00:50:47.940 --> 00:50:53.099
is incredible and grounding those grounding forces, those grounding exercises
906
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:57.480
of connecting and encouraging the yin energy from earth, the
907
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.139
yang energy from heaven aligns me with that.
908
00:51:00.780 --> 00:51:04.659
And I love the, uh, the intention setting, you know, your,
909
00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:08.110
statement is my life statement, which is how do I
910
00:51:08.150 --> 00:51:11.010
learn how to love myself more so I can love
911
00:51:11.070 --> 00:51:14.210
others more? And that's really, you know, you said in
912
00:51:14.230 --> 00:51:17.110
a much broader way, but a broader context, but that's
913
00:51:17.309 --> 00:51:24.329
really very similar. And I was thinking, you know, with
914
00:51:24.389 --> 00:51:27.639
intention and with visualization and that, like you've been talking
915
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.079
about and you've shared in these exercises, is bringing that
916
00:51:31.769 --> 00:51:34.550
thing that is greater than you into your body. I
917
00:51:34.570 --> 00:51:38.849
do this exercise called swallowing the sun. And, you know,
918
00:51:38.869 --> 00:51:41.230
if it's a nice sunny day, I can go outside,
919
00:51:41.250 --> 00:51:43.829
of course, you know, when it's warmer and I'll look
920
00:51:43.869 --> 00:51:48.519
at the sun with my eyes closed and I'll pretend
921
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:51.239
I'll raise my arms and breathe in and pretend I'm
922
00:51:52.340 --> 00:51:54.360
swallowing the sun. And then it's going all the way
923
00:51:54.420 --> 00:51:56.920
through me and down into the ground. And it's quite
924
00:51:56.980 --> 00:52:00.010
amazing when you do it because the more, You do
925
00:52:00.510 --> 00:52:04.300
it multiple times. Obviously, it's no set thing for it,
926
00:52:04.349 --> 00:52:07.130
but I usually do it three, four, maybe even up
927
00:52:07.150 --> 00:52:10.050
to six times. Your body begins to fill with light,
928
00:52:10.909 --> 00:52:16.880
and that begins to then shoot from you, you know,
929
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.519
out into the world. And I think that's really what's
930
00:52:21.539 --> 00:52:24.400
meant to be. So now we're getting where I always
931
00:52:24.420 --> 00:52:28.510
say the plane's landing, and we're getting to the end.
932
00:52:28.530 --> 00:52:29.349
We started our descent.
933
00:52:29.730 --> 00:52:30.309
I don't make you.
934
00:52:30.329 --> 00:52:34.409
We're on our descent to get buckled up. And again,
935
00:52:34.489 --> 00:52:36.719
I know I shared this with you before. A lot
936
00:52:36.739 --> 00:52:38.559
of times I throw this in the lap of my guests.
937
00:52:39.699 --> 00:52:43.820
But really, again, just practical stuff. And you shared some
938
00:52:43.860 --> 00:52:47.380
really good practical stuff. But if you had to give
939
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.900
someone three things, they were in your office and you're
940
00:52:51.019 --> 00:52:52.940
going through and he's like, give them three things they
941
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:53.559
could walk.
942
00:52:53.380 --> 00:52:54.179
Away with today.
943
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.699
It's going to demonstrably change their life as it relates
944
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:01.260
to being balanced and being grounded, what would you share?
945
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.300
I would have them do that Qigong move with the
946
00:53:05.380 --> 00:53:08.880
ocean breath. I would have them do that grounding hookup
947
00:53:08.900 --> 00:53:10.820
where you sit on your hand and you hold the crown.
948
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:16.920
If people want to, let me just think about that
949
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:19.639
a second. I would do the visualization of the energy
950
00:53:19.659 --> 00:53:22.230
in the heart and sending it up and down. I
951
00:53:22.289 --> 00:53:25.349
also think What in energy medicine is called a hookup
952
00:53:25.530 --> 00:53:28.369
is a really powerful one, one finger in the belly button,
953
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one finger between the eyebrows. And you just kind of
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stretch that up. You know, it lines up these two
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powerful energies. But what I love about those energies, it
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00:53:40.019 --> 00:53:44.320
lines up what's called governing and central vessels. Central goes
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up the front, considered the yin part of the body.
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And then governing goes up the back, considered the yang
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00:53:49.469 --> 00:53:51.610
part of the body. But what I love about those
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00:53:51.630 --> 00:53:54.769
when I've studied them more is that I think about
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00:53:54.789 --> 00:53:56.329
this a lot and it kind of relates back to
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00:53:56.349 --> 00:53:58.570
what we're talking about and about being in New York
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or being in different places and wanting to feel safe,
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but also not wanting to be closed off. Because I
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think that feeling of being closed off really disconnects us
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from both our grounding and our spirituality. And so doing
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00:54:12.130 --> 00:54:16.719
a hookup, the yin energy, the central aspect of that
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00:54:16.739 --> 00:54:20.699
is what a big part of that is being able
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to be vulnerable and really feel an exchange between us
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and the rest of the world and all of humanity.
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And I think given where our world is, this is deeply,
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deeply important to me, finding ways to connect. What governing
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00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.800
does on the young aspect is that that helps us
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stand strong in our truth, strong in our authenticity and
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00:54:40.820 --> 00:54:43.679
unable to be moved from that. So if you are
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00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:47.449
strong in your authenticity and firm in who you are,
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then you are able to be vulnerable and really connect
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00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:52.920
with people, but you need both. And when you do
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00:54:52.940 --> 00:54:57.539
the hookup, it really strengthens both of those aspects. And
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really like for me right now, as part of my
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personal activism is to look for ways to connect with people,
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regardless of whether they, you know, for example, I am
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00:55:09.659 --> 00:55:14.670
a New York Jewish gay energy worker. A lot of
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00:55:14.750 --> 00:55:18.510
people would mean me harm in this world. And I
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00:55:18.570 --> 00:55:21.349
am not going to let their beliefs, I'm not going
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to let that turn me into hateful person. That's my activism.
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I'm not letting that pull me off because I believe
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00:55:28.389 --> 00:55:30.360
at the core, we are all the same. We all
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00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.699
want love. We all want to belong. We all want
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00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.159
to feel safe. We all want our families and friends
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00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.519
to feel safe. So when you do a hookup and
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really make that strong, I can both stand strong in
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00:55:41.340 --> 00:55:44.429
who I am and not defend it, just be in it.
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And I can keep an openness and a softness towards
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the rest of the world. So it deeply grounds you,
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00:55:51.230 --> 00:55:54.730
but it really enhances again, that yin and yang quality.
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And I've gone off script a little bit there.
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But for me, it's really important. And that's what's needed
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in the world.
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So, so folks, you know, grounding and balancing is your
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00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:09.519
first step towards making the world a better place.
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I mean, we, we, we see it right now.
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We're watching it right now, you know, the wars and the,
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00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:20.440
And just people falling into fear and then you justify
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00:56:20.460 --> 00:56:24.849
your beliefs and your perspective and you're, you're taking away
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00:56:24.909 --> 00:56:29.190
someone else's sovereignty for your beliefs. And, and that, you know,
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00:56:29.510 --> 00:56:31.050
unfortunately that's a two way street.
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00:56:31.809 --> 00:56:31.949
Yeah.
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Um, no, that's, that's perfect. Margie is perfect. I think
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00:56:36.829 --> 00:56:38.030
it's important to share.
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00:56:39.070 --> 00:56:41.480
So now you have, I noticed, um, we didn't talk
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00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:44.380
about your, your sense you shared with me before the call.
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00:56:44.869 --> 00:56:46.630
So maybe, you know, you can talk about that, talk
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00:56:46.650 --> 00:56:49.449
about your, your business. I know they can find you
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00:56:49.489 --> 00:56:56.590
at fineworks.com, F-E-I-N-W-O-R-K-S.com. And I'll have all these links that
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00:56:56.610 --> 00:56:58.380
Margie shares within the notes.
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Yeah.
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00:56:59.489 --> 00:57:03.239
But maybe, maybe talk a little bit about, and I
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00:57:03.260 --> 00:57:05.159
know cents aren't for everybody, but talk a little bit
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00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.000
about what, you know, what that's done in your life.
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Yeah. So since I've come upstate, I, like I say,
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I've gone kind of feral. I have taps in my
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maple trees as we speak. And, um, And I've started
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growing things. And one of my favorite plants is sweetgrass.
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Maybe some people are familiar with Braiding Sweetgrass, the book.
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00:57:22.949 --> 00:57:25.789
And sweetgrass is considered to be one of the highest
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00:57:25.829 --> 00:57:30.340
vibration plants there are. And the smell is really amazing.
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00:57:30.780 --> 00:57:32.679
So if you're someone like me who works with people
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00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.300
all the time, and I do my own spiritual work,
1030
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:39.000
having a clear, clean, energetic space is really important. So
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00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:42.539
if I have six people in my house over the course,
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00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:44.239
I work at my home over the course of the day,
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00:57:44.829 --> 00:57:48.510
I have heard about cancer and depression and all sorts
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00:57:48.550 --> 00:57:51.170
of really heavy things. I want to be able to
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00:57:51.230 --> 00:57:52.690
have that in my home, but then I want to
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00:57:52.710 --> 00:57:56.389
be able to clear it. So traditionally what folks do,
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00:57:56.489 --> 00:57:59.809
Native Americans, whether South or North, is that they clear
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00:57:59.849 --> 00:58:03.329
the energy first, whether it's with sage or they sometimes
1039
00:58:03.409 --> 00:58:06.250
use Palo Santo. And what I've done is I've created
1040
00:58:06.389 --> 00:58:09.289
sprays from them. I like it better than smoke because
1041
00:58:09.389 --> 00:58:13.070
it clears immediately and it's a much fresher scent. So
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00:58:13.309 --> 00:58:15.409
I've created a white sage spray. So what I do
1043
00:58:15.530 --> 00:58:19.750
first is I spray the sage over myself and in
1044
00:58:19.789 --> 00:58:24.269
my space, the smell is divine. And then I spray
1045
00:58:24.289 --> 00:58:27.219
the sweet grass. So once the energy is clear, then
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00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:29.659
I can raise the energy. So then I spray the
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00:58:29.699 --> 00:58:34.239
sweet grass, which just sweetens everything up. And so I
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00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:37.159
started making these and selling them and folks seem to
1049
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.960
really love them. And I make some other products as well,
1050
00:58:39.980 --> 00:58:42.230
but those are my two favorites. main things that I
1051
00:58:42.349 --> 00:58:44.869
use that really work beautifully. And I like, again, better
1052
00:58:44.889 --> 00:58:47.980
than burning because it's very hard to control burning. You
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00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:49.679
do one little bit of sage and the whole house
1054
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:51.639
smells that way. The next person comes in and it
1055
00:58:51.699 --> 00:58:57.760
really smells. Once you spray the sprays, the scent is
1056
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.699
gone within 15 seconds, but the energy has cleared. So
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00:59:01.730 --> 00:59:04.909
they've become a really essential part for me of keeping
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00:59:04.949 --> 00:59:09.340
myself clean and clear and in in keeping my space
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00:59:09.500 --> 00:59:12.699
clean and clear. And I have a really deep, ever
1060
00:59:12.739 --> 00:59:16.079
deepening relationship with plants in the natural world. And I
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00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:20.659
love to bring them in. Um, so my website has
1062
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.159
a whole store with all kinds of fun things that
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I have, um, used. If anyone from, I will tell
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you if you want to anyone from this, uh, podcast
1065
00:59:31.340 --> 00:59:33.579
wants to go on and use it, use the discount
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00:59:33.619 --> 00:59:36.039
code kinfolk, and that'll give you, that'll give you 20
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00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:39.380
or 25% off. I can't remember which one. Very glad
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00:59:39.420 --> 00:59:39.730
to have you.
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I'll make sure I have that in the notes for everybody.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:45.900
Um, you know, I know Margie, you, you teach a lot,
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you do different classes, you have, is there anything else
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00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:49.099
going on you want to share?
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00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.099
Um, I'm just about to launch something I've been working
1075
00:59:52.179 --> 00:59:55.260
on for a year. It's called your energy toolkit and
1076
00:59:55.309 --> 00:59:58.090
it's a learning platform. It'll be a subscription series. And
1077
00:59:58.150 --> 01:00:00.760
what it is, It's kind of a one-stop shop for
1078
01:00:00.900 --> 01:00:03.889
everything energy. So for example, you'll see a whole bunch
1079
01:00:03.909 --> 01:00:08.070
of folders on there. One might be physical wellness, emotional wellness,
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01:00:08.190 --> 01:00:11.820
pain management. Also, you can do it via the systems.
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01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:14.820
There's a whole section on the aura, the meridians, the chakras.
1082
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:18.679
So let's say you have chronic, let's say irritable bowel issues.
1083
01:00:19.030 --> 01:00:22.030
You can go into physical wellness, go to large intestine.
1084
01:00:22.050 --> 01:00:24.989
There will be a 10 minute energy routine. You can
1085
01:00:25.010 --> 01:00:27.840
hook into always a page on like, what is the
1086
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:31.539
large intestine, how it works physically and the energetic aspects,
1087
01:00:31.579 --> 01:00:36.179
emotional aspects of it. And then I've done literally 200
1088
01:00:36.179 --> 01:00:39.159
videos of energy exercises. So you can go there and
1089
01:00:39.179 --> 01:00:41.360
just explore, or you can go and search and just
1090
01:00:41.420 --> 01:00:45.849
put in constipation and energy work will come up. Also,
1091
01:00:45.869 --> 01:00:48.519
if you're a practitioner and, There's like a homework assigner.
1092
01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:51.000
So if you are a practitioner, you assign homework, you
1093
01:00:51.019 --> 01:00:53.719
can just click on the exercises and then just email
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01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:57.239
it to your client and they will have me doing
1095
01:00:57.260 --> 01:01:00.239
the videos. So I'm really proud of it. It's in
1096
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:05.719
beta testing right now. That's going to be called yourenergytoolkit.com.
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01:01:06.409 --> 01:01:08.530
And that's going to be up and running probably in
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01:01:08.550 --> 01:01:10.769
about two weeks. So that's the newest thing I've done.
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01:01:11.389 --> 01:01:13.650
And I'm really proud and excited about it.
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01:01:13.869 --> 01:01:17.300
Wow, that's cool. Okay, well. Let's see.
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01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:23.610
We're broadcasting this on the 28th of March. So, yeah,
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01:01:23.619 --> 01:01:26.849
it'll be perfect timing for that new toolkit. I'll definitely
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01:01:26.869 --> 01:01:28.690
have to check that out. We'll make sure we have
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01:01:28.730 --> 01:01:29.070
that on.
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01:01:30.090 --> 01:01:31.349
Thanks, Jeffrey. I appreciate that.
1106
01:01:31.389 --> 01:01:33.929
Yeah, the notes and everything. That sounds amazing, Margie.
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01:01:35.289 --> 01:01:36.869
It'll have, if I just may, one last thing. It'll
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01:01:36.909 --> 01:01:38.679
have a function. Let's say you just want to check
1109
01:01:38.699 --> 01:01:40.139
it out and you don't want to sign on to
1110
01:01:40.179 --> 01:01:44.000
the whole thing. There's about 30 energy routines on there.
1111
01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:50.449
Anything from depression, anxiety, invisibility to gut, bloating, pain, et cetera.
1112
01:01:50.849 --> 01:01:53.070
And you can just go on there and buy the
1113
01:01:53.170 --> 01:01:56.010
individual routines. They're eight bucks each, or you can buy
1114
01:01:56.050 --> 01:01:58.230
like a package. And that's a way you can just
1115
01:01:58.269 --> 01:02:00.090
go on there and check it out without having to
1116
01:02:00.150 --> 01:02:03.039
sign on to the whole thing. We're trying to create
1117
01:02:03.139 --> 01:02:05.719
as many ways as possible for people just to experiment
1118
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.760
and explore and to bring energy medicine into the world.
1119
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:09.099
And I'll vouch.
1120
01:02:09.139 --> 01:02:12.739
I mean, Margie's an amazing teacher. She taught me. I'm
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01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:15.199
not sure how much I learned, but, you know.
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01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:17.260
We learned a lot.
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01:02:17.500 --> 01:02:21.920
She's done, does amazing healing work, taught many, many, many,
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01:02:21.940 --> 01:02:22.780
many students.
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01:02:22.980 --> 01:02:26.389
So it's a blessing. I'll definitely have to check it out.
1126
01:02:26.409 --> 01:02:27.610
Thank you, Jeffrey. I appreciate that.
1127
01:02:28.510 --> 01:02:31.730
So usually I wrap up the show with a prayer.
1128
01:02:32.070 --> 01:02:33.909
So I want to do a quick prayer and then
1129
01:02:35.329 --> 01:02:36.449
we'll get to say goodbye, folks.
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01:02:36.489 --> 01:02:36.590
So.
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01:02:37.099 --> 01:02:39.559
Thank you so much for being here today. I'm so
1132
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:42.500
blessed to have you here.
1133
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:45.739
And I'm sure the folks picked up some stuff. And
1134
01:02:46.059 --> 01:02:48.019
we're going to do our best for those of you
1135
01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:49.639
that are listening to the audio to make sure we
1136
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:52.480
share enough material where you have some takeaways and we
1137
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:54.760
can give you some downloads. So I'll work on that.
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01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:58.599
Heavenly Father, open our hearts, our minds, our eyes, and
1139
01:02:58.659 --> 01:03:02.679
our ears to all that is you. And guide us, Lord.
1140
01:03:02.739 --> 01:03:05.480
Guide us, Lord, in the connecting with you. with all
1141
01:03:05.500 --> 01:03:08.679
of your support and keeping us grounded and balanced and
1142
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.909
keeping the best version of us so we can carry
1143
01:03:12.409 --> 01:03:15.449
the mission of your love forward to all who are
1144
01:03:15.469 --> 01:03:18.550
in this world. And thank you for the blessing of
1145
01:03:18.650 --> 01:03:24.090
Margie here sharing her purpose, her design, her connection, and
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01:03:24.829 --> 01:03:30.769
opening these pathways for folks to share that universal love.
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01:03:32.289 --> 01:03:34.050
Thank you. In the name of the Father and the
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01:03:35.860 --> 01:03:37.739
In your son Jesus and the Holy Spirit, amen.
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01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:40.099
Amen. So motivated.
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01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.369
Thank you so much. Blessings. Thank you, Margie. Thank you, Jeffrey.
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01:03:44.409 --> 01:03:47.250
This was really fun. I hope you folks got some
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01:03:47.349 --> 01:03:49.150
great tips. It was really nice to spend time with
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you all. Amen.
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That feeling of like when you've been away on vacation
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for a long time and then you walk in your house,
3
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no matter how great the vacation was, that feeling of
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sleeping in your own bed, that's what being grounded feels like.
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So I remember I went through a really bad breakup
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and I was just heart smashed on the sidewalk, miserable. And,
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you know, when you have that, one, you're so raw
8
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and vulnerable, but you also want to close in. And
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that's when I started doing my energy work on the roof.
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But when I tapped into that energy, I started to
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understand why they say New York is a city that
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never sleeps.
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Because I felt like I could do anything.
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I felt like Superman when I was grounded and balanced
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with the energy. Hi, and welcome to Unlocking the Miracles Within.
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I'm your host, Jeffrey McDonald. We're on episode 20, and
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we're going to be discussing today Sacred Practices for Grounding
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and Balancing. And I have a good friend of mine here,
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Marjorie Fine. I'm so blessed to have her. I've been
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really lucky this season with everyone who I've thought of
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kind of as a first for these sessions said yes,
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thank goodness.
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Yes.
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I think if I had one dome, that was just
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a timing thing and responsibility. So anyway, I've been blessed
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with that, and I'm extremely blessed. Margie, well, I'll say Marjorie.
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You can say Margie.
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Margie, I call her Margie. But we met, geez, many
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years ago.
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She was actually one of my teachers in Eden Method,
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Eden Energy Medicine.
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So, Margie, that would be about 2015.
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Wow. Wow.
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So, yeah, it's been over 10 years.
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Nice.
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And my days of learning Eden Energy Medicine and then
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running the company for about eight and a half years.
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And Margie's an amazing healer and amazing teacher. And she
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just doesn't teach Eden Energy Medicine. She has a lot
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going on in her world. She's a mentor, a coach,
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a person who uplifts others. And somebody who definitely, in
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my mind, knows about grounding and balancing. And we're going
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to be excited to share some tips and techniques here
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with you today. So Margie, welcome to the show. I
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know I'm blessed to have you. So thank you for
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being here.
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Thanks, Jeffrey. I appreciate you asking me. And any opportunity
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to commune with an old energy medicine cohort and talk
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about energy work and spirituality, I'm in.
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That's awesome. I'm excited.
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Because, you know, with these amazing, I call them wisdom keepers,
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and Margie's one of them, you never know what comes out.
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So we're going to let God guide this and hopefully
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some cool and new techniques for you. And first, just
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to understand, you know, why grounding's important. But I wanted
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to mention, Margie just mentioned to me before we started
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the call that, or started the show, that she actually
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lives in a church now. So if you look behind her,
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she was showing me the beams. Yeah, the.
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An old Methodist church you mentioned, right?
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1860.
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That is so awesome.
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She lives in New York, upstate New York. So that
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is pretty, pretty cool. Anyway, I just found that's kind
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of neat. So Margie, I, I, you know, you and
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I've known each other for a long time, but I'm
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sure there are many things I don't know about you.
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time capsule and maybe talk about like when you Well,
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you had to have a day, I did, right, where
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you were ungrounded and maybe not balanced.
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About the time where Margie, the before Margie, and when
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you found this, you know, these techniques and how you
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began to ground and balance.
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when I had my own place for 20 years, I
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lived on the fourth floor. And so your feet are
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never on the ground. And if they're on the ground
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in New York, they are very rarely on dirt. They're
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on cement. And so that's something, I mean, the beauty
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of that is that I had to figure out how
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to be grounded regardless of where I was, because I
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did not, I live in the country now, but I
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moved here five years ago. So from age zero to 60,
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years have been spent on concrete. And so always, despite
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being a city girl, being in nature was huge for me.
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the sister park to Central Park in Manhattan. And I
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will tell you that there were days that I would
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go there and take off my shoes and walk barefoot
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in the city park. Just... just disassociating from anything that
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might be on the ground there, because there's a lot.
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I even knew about energy medicine. I could tell that
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that did something for me. And also, in the last
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place I lived, the last 20 years of my time
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in New York, we had a roof deck that I
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called my top 40. And I started growing stuff up there.
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being outside, I had probably... 50 pots of different sorts
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of plants, things that I ate, flowers, et cetera. And
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it overlooked the whole city skyline. I could see the
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water and even just, and I would go up there
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multiple times a day during any month that was possible
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just to look at plants, touch the dirt, be under
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the sky, whether it was the sun or the moon,
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see the horizon and see the water. And that was
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huge for me. When I moved upstate, My Brooklyn friends
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have said I've gone totally feral, which I think is
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absolutely true and fair. And that's just opened up a
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whole different level. But again, from the beginning, I always
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gravitated to it, just didn't know the reasoning behind it.
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What popped into my head is, I'll tell you a
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little story and you can tell me kind of your
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experience because you've been a lifelong New Yorker and now
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you're out in the country. So my wife and I
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were on a trip to Antigua, a very relaxing trip, beach,
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you know, wonderful, exciting. And we had a stopover in
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New York, and she had never been to New York.
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we had the kids with us. The kids could see
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New York. So I did the, you know, typical tourist thing,
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stayed in Times Square. But it was only one night. Well,
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we get into New York. And, you know, I didn't
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forewarn her. And, you know, I did have the techniques.
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I had noticed something extremely palpable when we hit, we
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landed in New York. It was this energy and it
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was so intense. And I knew enough in that moment
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that I was like, if I don't ground myself, we'll
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talk about that more, folks.
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That I'm going to be overwhelmed. And I did not
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coach myself. my beautiful wife, Julie, about this.
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she was in just a miserable state, uh, for the
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day that we were fortunate. We were only there a day,
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but when I tapped into that energy, I started to
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understand why they say New York is a city that
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never sleeps because I felt like I could do anything.
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I felt like Superman. when I was grounded and balanced
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with the energy. And it gave me this palpable understanding
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of the difference between an energy of like an Antigua
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and an energy of New York City.
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Yeah, that's pretty different, man. You know, one thing that's
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really interesting about New York, and I think this is
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one reason why people struggle with the energy sometimes, is
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that You were, I mean, I lived on one city
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block in Brooklyn and there was probably a thousand people. And,
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you know, I always get the image of the shoe,
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like of the back room of the shoe store with that,
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there's a little, you know, one box that's slid in
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with a million other boxes. And that's what your apartment is.
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You're surrounded by people, but people also wall themselves off.
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don't know, we say, hi, we say, good morning, we smile.
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people do not. So it's this weird combination of just
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thousands of the energy of thousands of people around you,
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but no one's interacting. And I think that phenomenon is
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because people don't know how to manage the energy. So
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they wall themselves off. So understanding energy work was really
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helpful for me to understand how to leave my energy open,
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you know, not completely vulnerable to anyone who walks by,
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but to not completely be completely walled off. So when
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you are blocked off from something, the intensity of it builds.
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New York. And you think most people who come to
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New York are foreigners. They don't even speak the language.
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know you're extremely intuitive and you connect with folks and
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you've been a healer for so many years. But take
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me back to a time when you maybe felt vulnerable
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such a tough skin as a young lady, but you know, like,
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was there a time when you maybe, maybe around the
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time when you found energy medicine, I don't know where
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you're like, wow, this really made a difference for me
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understanding grounding and protecting my anyway.
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breakup and I was just hard smashed on the sidewalk, miserable.
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I started doing my energy work on the roof. So
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just the feeling of expansiveness. And it put me in
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touch with... So those of us in energy medicine know
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that the most powerful movements of energy is the yin
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energy that comes up from the earth and floods us.
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earth and grounds us. And that's like our energy superhighway.
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energy work was like 20 times more powerful than doing
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it in my apartment. And that was a way that
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I could hook in. I mean, when you think about
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mother earth energy, she doesn't care what we do to her.
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She's still spinning around. And the Father heavenly energy, that
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sun comes up every day and warms us and feeds us.
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Mother Earth and we are held by Father Sky. And
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they want us to commune with them. So first it
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was just, I wonder what it'll feel like to do
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my energy work on the roof. And then it was like, whoa,
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that was a really good idea in that energy. And
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this description I'm giving kind of came together over time
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when I would do it first thing in the morning
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as the sun was coming up, last thing in the
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evening when the sun was going down, and it hooked
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me into those energies. And I've never lost that feeling
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of having those powerful moments energetic forces, a magical forces,
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they're always ready to accompany me.
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given some people that don't understand what grounding and balancing,
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you know, hopefully most folks have seen that symbol of,
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you know, the white and the black and kind of interconnected, um,
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you know, the energies that's the, you know, the Chinese
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way of looking at, at, uh, us. and chi and
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energy and all those fun terms we use for energy.
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maybe just start, you're such a wonderful teacher, maybe just
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start at the basics of how you would describe grounding
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to a person that has never experienced that before.
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Awesome. So there are two main ways, there are two
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main ways that we're grounded. One is this yin and
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yang flow that I just described, and I'm going to
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stand up and stand back to illustrate that a little
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bit better. Okay. Just tilt so people can. Oops. Let
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me keep my head in the picture.
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You'd be the headless horseman there.
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first went to massage school and I got a massage license,
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I studied anatomy and physiology and they have what they
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call anatomical position, which is how you study the human body.
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that they describe everything from. And it's basically the image
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of a cadaver, of someone dead on a table. In
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Chinese medicine, their neutral position is this. An alive human
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being standing within the dynamic interplay of yin energy coming
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up from the earth, and yang energy coming down from
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the heavens. So the most basic yin and yang are
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the complimentary forces in Chinese medicine that create all of life.
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This balance of internal bringing things in, external moving things out,
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the sun and the moon, the rise and the fall.
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that movement of energy. So again, yin energy comes up
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from mother earth. It travels up our body. and goes
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out up into the heavens. Yang energy comes down from
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the heavens, travels down our body, and grabs us into
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the ground, kind of like the green wire in a house.
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be grounded or ungrounded. For some people, that yin energy
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is not coming in very well. It enters the body,
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whatever reason, that point can get kind of closed and
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that yin energy does not come up. So for some people,
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that yin energy doesn't come up very well, but the
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yang is coming down fine. For other people, the yang
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energy does not come down well. And that goes back
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into the earth through the kind of this little notch
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in our pinky toe. So sometimes, for example, maybe the
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crown of the head is clogged or that pinky toe
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point is clogged. So that yang energy does not come down.
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yin's not coming up. The yang's not coming down. But
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for many folks, one is working and one is not.
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or not. The other is that we have a magnetic
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relationship to the earth. So we think of gravity like
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we don't float around. We are stuck to the earth.
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let's say, a south pole, and I'll call this a
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north pole, if I put them together, it sticks. But
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if I put, I'm sorry, let me put it together,
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it sticks. If I put south to south or north
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to north, they repel. So the crust of the earth
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is considered a north polarity, and the bottom of our
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feet should be a south. So when that's correct, we
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stick to the earth. Again, it's always because of illness
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or stress or a sudden shock. Sometimes it can reverse things.
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north pole as well, against the north pole of the earth,
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and we repel. It's a gentle feeling of being repelled
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from the earth rather than gluing to the earth. Was
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that reasonably clear? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I want to let the folks know that our– because
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we do a video and audio version, Margie, of the show.
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this particular– her discussion, she was demonstrating a lot of things.
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you can go check out the video on YouTube. The
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links are in the, in the, um, post you saw
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on social media.
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I will add some images in of these different points
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and different images that Margie talked about that you could
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go download. So don't get too hung up if you're,
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you know, you're driving and listening to the show and
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You're like, oh, what is she showing? It's hard to
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talk about these things sometimes for audio only. But no,
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it's going to be available to you. Or you can
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go watch us on YouTube and you can actually see
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this video of it. So, yeah, I mean, that's very clear.
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Those are the nuts and bolts of grounding.
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Yeah, nuts and bolts of grounding. And I think what
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you were talking about a little bit earlier, you were
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talking about the heaven and the earth. energy and the
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whole point is to be balanced, right? To have that
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energy because sometimes you could be unbalanced. So maybe talk
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about that a little bit. What does it look like,
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feel like to be ungrounded, unbalanced?
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It feels really bad, Jeffrey. So the first thing is,
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one thing I always love to tell students and folks
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in situations like this is Chinese medicine considers a healthy
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human who lives an equal measure of yin and yang.
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And let's be clear that in our culture, yin, meaning repose, rest, contemplation,
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as opposed to yang, accomplishing, action, doing, yin is not
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appreciated in our culture. At parties sometimes I'll ask friends,
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how do you feel if you don't accomplish something for
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an entire day and most people feel pretty bad? I
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feel fabulous about that. So just to keep that in
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mind that our culture does not support the healthy balance
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of action and repose. So, you know, usually a friend
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of mine always draws a balloon without a string that's
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just floating. It can often be translated as a, what
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I feel in myself is just a systemic sensation of
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a slight anxiety. It's not big. It is just It's
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like this feeling when you really feel at home and
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you're walking around and you just somehow feel comfortable in
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yourself skin. And when you're not grounded, it's, um, it's like,
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it's kind of like, I always use a New Yorker.
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I use the example of being like a little kid
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in Macy's and you lost sight of your mom, you know? So,
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and you might see her a second later, but for
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that one moment, it's like you're disconnected from your mother.
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when we're not grounded in an energetic and spiritual sense
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and we feel it. So when you are not grounded,
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you might feel a light sense of anxiety, a slight,
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I find myself walking faster when I don't have to,
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a little bit of a harder time relaxing. I might
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reach for something else. Like that's when I'll find myself
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sometimes in like using, let's say, scrolling on Instagram or
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some other way to kind of disassociate or zone out
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a little bit those are the signals for me and
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it will be different for different people but I would
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say that that if you kind of think about how
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you feel when you just like you're walking you're doing
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your thing and you just feel in your body in
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your space in your groove and those feelings and for
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some and usually you there's not a reason for it.
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You know, if I have an upsetting phone call or something,
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you know, upsetting happens, I know why I'm upset. This
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is going to be much more, um, like, uh, kind
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of existential. Like there's nothing happened. Why am I feeling
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slightly uncomfortable? It's going to be more that sort of thing.
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Yeah. I, uh, there's a couple of thoughts I had.
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It's like, You can get thrown off center.
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I mean, obviously, most people, it's usually the ones close
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to you, like your family or your loved ones. But
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as I was telling you about that New York trip,
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when this all became really clear to me was actually
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the first, I think it was right after I started
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energy medicine. And then I went to Costa Rica. And
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I mean, it just felt like just the world exploded
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for me. And I remember that first night we were
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in a beautiful resort. Everything was fine. And there's just
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things were not clicking, you know? And I remember that
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first night, Julie and I went to kiss each other
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and we, we bumped heads and actually my head hit
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her cheek and her cheeks swelled up. And I thought,
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Oh my God, you know, we're having this amazing vacation.
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I just now disfigured my wife's face. And so I
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knew energy work at the time. So I did energy
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work on her. And fortunately, by the time we woke up,
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the swelling had gone away. And I was like, thank you.
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And then I went, okay, I'm not grounded. And so
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I had got connected with Costa Rica and I prayed
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and I, you know, I talked about clearing energies. Um,
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you know, I did all the things that I do.
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And once I did that, it was just like a
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world of difference. So, I mean, just everything went perfect
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after that point. So, so, you know, when you, you're right,
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like when you don't feel like you're, you're, you're disconnected,
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you're not present. And I love the fact that you
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talked about it being subtle, but, you know, for me,
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because I think, I think it, the way I look
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at it now, when I go to a different place,
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I always pray and connect and ground and, and, you know, um,
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just because I know I'm in a different energetic framework.
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Than where I came from. And that's an easy way
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to become ungrounded.
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Yeah. You know, I find it really interesting because anyone
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would think that being in, I think you and I
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were at that class together, Jeffrey.
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Oh, no, no. Fortunately it wasn't that trip.
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It was a different one. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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But we went, yeah, we did go to class.
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You know, if you're used to living in New York
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city and you're used to being contained in a certain way,
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and then all of a sudden you land in the tropics.
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I mean, all of this to say that, you know,
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you would think that going from that city to that
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beautiful place, tropical, colorful nature, you would feel amazing. But
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that's more than what we're used to containing in a
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different way. And all of a sudden, you might feel
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more open. And all of a sudden, that's a little jangly.
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So I find it really interesting, no matter where you go,
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whether it's from Costa Rica to New York or New
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York to Costa Rica, there's going to be an energetic adjustment.
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It's funny, I have two cats who lived in my
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little 650 square foot apartment for eight years. And when
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they came upstate, one of my cats went a little crazy.
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And I think it was just, what the heck is
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all this space and all of these smells and what
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is going on? And it took her a while to
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get her, she started like chasing and being mean to
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her brother and which they always like had a love fest. And,
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but it was super interesting. Now they're in heaven, but
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it really showed me that even going into You know,
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they say when you're a fly in a jar and
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you take the lid off, they don't know how to
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fly out right away. You're used to that safety zone.
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So any kind of shift.
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Whatever framework that you built. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's wonderful.
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Animals is a great, you know, a great way to
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watch grounding connectedness or ungrounding.
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I mean, how many animals when they go to a different,
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even a different home or whatever, they're just.
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So, you know, out of sorts. Anyway. Anyway.
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So yeah, let's, let's shift a little bit into, um, again,
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using your amazing teaching skills. Um, I just had this
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vision of you on the roof doing your exercises. Um,
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and again, for the folks that are just listening, you know,
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we'll share whatever exercises that we do here, but I
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was thinking like, what, you know, when you went up
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there in the morning, what were some of the simple
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things that you did?
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Maybe you can, you can show the audience here.
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Um, yeah. So, um, One really simple one, and this
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is actually not an Eden Energy exercise, it's a Qigong exercise.
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And I love this one and I start my routine
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with it most days. It's really simple. Let me just
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get the angle right here. And for those of you
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who are not out there, I'm holding my hands one
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on top of the other, just like the back of
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one hand to the palm of the other, kind of
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right at my groin area. And what I'm going to
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do is as I breathe in, this is called a
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Qigong move and I use what's called an ocean breath
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with it. So the breath is in the nose and
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out the mouth with a sigh. So if my hands
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are just right in front of kind of my pubic area,
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as I breathe in, I'm slowly raising my hands up
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just about over my head and then I'm turning them
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so they're palm down. And as I exhale, I'm just
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slowly bringing that energy down. And this is a fantastic
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ancient way of getting the yin and yang energy to go,
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and it feels great. Keep your knees nice and soft,
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and again, at the groin, palms up, bring the energy in,
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bring it in through the nose, palms down, and push
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the energy back down to the groin. And again, inhale,
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palms up to the head, exhale, palms down. And this
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is just such a powerful, simple way to encourage that
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yin and yang movement before you even do anything else.
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So that's one of my favorites. Another one I really
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like is a type of what we call in Eden
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Energy Medicine, a hookup. And what I'm going to do is,
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let's see how I can show that. So I'm doing
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this sitting down. So if you just, what I'm going
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to do is I'm going to sit on the top
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of my hand. So I'm just going to put my
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hand on my chair underneath my butt, and I'm just
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going to sit on it with the palm down. And
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then the other hand, I can do two things. The
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first thing is I'm just going to hold my crown.
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obviously that I'm sitting on, and the crown chakra. The
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root chakra is deeply connected to the earth. The crown
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chakra is deeply connected to the heavens. And I'm going
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to sit with my back straight and I'm going to
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use that breath. When you do what's called that ocean breath,
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it tells your body that you're safe. We never breathe
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that way unless we are getting into a hot bath,
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getting into a warm bed or Settling with a book
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with a cat or a dog on our lap. It
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tells the body to go into parasympathetic. So it's a
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great breath to use to enhance any energy exercise. So
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I just have my hands in that position and I'm
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just going to do three nice breaths there in the nose. Ah. Ah. Ah.
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I love that. And if you want to use a
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visualization to enhance that, what I do is as I
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breathe in, I imagine this white light kind of pulsing
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out from my chest. And as I exhale, I send
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the white energy down to the earth and up to
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the heavens. And as I inhale, I bring them back
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to my heart. So it's kind of like this energy,
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you are expanding the heart energy, then you're Inhaling it
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down to Mother Earth and up to Father Sky. And
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then you're exhaling it back to the heart from both directions.
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So that's an energetic way or visualization you can use
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to enhance it, to really always start with the heart
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energy and then send it down and up and then
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back again. And it's a beautiful way to get an
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energetic and for me, a spiritual exchange with heaven and earth.
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As I'm moving the energy in my body, you know, every, every...
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And every energetic aspect of our body has a yin
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and or a yang quality to it. So when you
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move that yin and yang energy, you are giving all
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of them, every cell of your body, every energy. aspect
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of your body, you are flooding it with those resources.
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So don't underestimate the power, the immense power of some
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of these very, very simple foundational practices.
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That's what is amazing about doing the energy work or
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you call these ancient traditions that have been taught in
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different ways. Like, you know, you were sharing Qigong and
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how simple it is and people don't. One of the
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things that, two questions. One, I noticed you were adding
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sound to it on your exhale.
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Is that important? Is there a particular?
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It's not necessary, but I will tell you that just,
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I mean, some people don't like making sounds, but if
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you're by yourself, what the hell? I will say that
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I think adding the sound enhances it. But if you're
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someone for whom that feels uncomfortable, it's not going to
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enhance it for you. So it can just be... Yeah.
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You don't have to make the noise with it.
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You don't. You can make it a soft, you know, very,
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very gentle, as long as a nice loose jaw and
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exhaling completely through the mouth. But if it's not, unless
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it's really uncomfortable, I would suggest experimenting Do three breaths
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without sound and then do three breaths. And as you exhale,
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just imagine that it's been a freezing cold day and
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you're getting into a hot bath with smelly bubbles in it.
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You know what I mean? Like, oh, there's something to
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00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.759
that sighing that helps. But again, if something stresses you,
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it ain't helping. So don't do it.
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I wanted to bring up one question for you. And
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I don't know if we've ever chatted about this, but
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I had found, you know, because you can't go outside
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all the time and be like, right now, today's cold
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will be the last thing I want to do. Um,
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but I had found a lot of my, even before
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I started energy medicine, but a lot of my prayers
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and those kinds of things were more effective when I
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was taking a shower. And, um, so I started doing,
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you know, I'll do tapping and different energy things in
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the shower. try to be more intentional when I'm connected
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to water. So it seems to work really well for me.
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And I know that's a big thing Julie does. She
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does her daily energy routine, which, by the way, folks,
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I think I've shared this before on the show, but
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for those of you that listen to this for the
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first time, we'll share the.
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Link to that.
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There's an Eden Energy Medicine daily energy routine where Margie
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and I both learned from Donna Eden. And Margie's actually
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a senior faculty for eating method she teaches a lot
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of different things for them but it's a great simple
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eight minute energy routine that you can do daily that
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keeps you your field clear grounded connected so we'll share
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the link to that on the podcast notes but i
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know my wife she does that every morning in the
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shower so what is your take on that on.
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I think it's great i think that um you know
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for anyone who knows anything about five elements, Jeffrey's a
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pretty solid water element. So water's a great element for him.
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I don't know what element his wife is. I'm a
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pretty woody and earthy person. So for example, I will
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often do my routine, even if it's, I mean, upstate
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New York, we have some pretty deadly winters. I'll do
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it in front of the window and I'll look at
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the trees in the mountains. So for me, that's really grounding.
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Sometimes I, you know, for example, I will always light
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candles there. You can't see, but there's at least five
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or six candles there. lit around my space. So I
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think it's really, really great to experiment with bringing different
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elemental aspects to it. Do it while you're looking at
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a flame. Do it while you're looking out the window
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and seeing the mountains and the trees. Do it in
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the shower. I have a pretty powerful psychic and shaman.
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And he says every single time that he brushes his teeth,
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He thinks about how he's cleansing his mouth so he
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can speak with more truth. And he's washing his body.
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He's letting all of the negativity and dirt or whatever
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accumulated to go back into Mother Earth to be reconstituted
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for something. And he thinks about when he starts to eat,
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like he always thanks the food and expresses gratitude that
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he's being nourished. I mean, it's not every second, but
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it's just how long does it take before you brush
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your teeth to imagine that you're just washing your mouth?
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those little practices are super powerful and they add up.
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So I think, you know, when you think about being
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the shower and that water is pouring over you and
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cleansing you, moving the energy while you do energy work
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is fabulous. But I just want to broaden that, that
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people can find all different ways of playing with that.
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I often do different practices in front of different altars
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and I will often put whatever, I'll put different aspects there.
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Like sometimes I'll just get a little bowl of water
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and I'll just meditate lightly staring into it. Other times
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I'll meditate very soft, like not quite closed eyes, soft
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eyes staring at a flame. And it's different. So I say,
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you know, throw stuff on the wall and see what
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sticks for you. Because if you experiment, you're going to
623
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see that, wow, you know, that flame really does something
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for me. Other people, the shower rocks their world.
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Yeah, you just reminded me of the main principle that
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Donna taught us, which.
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Is, you know, we're all unique, right? We're all unique.
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We're all unique. And I do think, you know, it's
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great to see what, like, I have certain aspects that
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come really naturally to me and others don't. Sometimes I
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will really lean, like, if I'm going through a difficult time,
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I will always lean on the things that feel more
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natural and supportive. So then I will always look at
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the trees and the mountains or try to do my
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routine outside if the weather permits. But if I'm feeling
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in a stronger place and I want to try to
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expand myself, then water for me was my least prevalent element.
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And so I started doing something I call nothing to
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do and all day to do it, which is a
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very watery thing. Watery people tend to not like to
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have schedules. They just drift through the day. And At
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first it was like, oh man, not again. You'll be
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00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:06.699
happy to know, Jeffrey, that I love it now. But
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I won't do that if I'm in a stressed state.
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00:36:09.469 --> 00:36:13.989
Then I need to lean on my natural attributes. But
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if I'm feeling a little stronger, then I will stretch
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myself to some of these others and they become friends.
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And they might not be my native tongue, my mother tongue,
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but there are languages I can speak now. And sometimes
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00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:28.590
what needs to be expressed... needs to be expressed in
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that language.
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And I think what Margie's talking about a lot here,
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I just had the vision again, you know, so there's
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the Chinese five elements and you have fire, earth, water, metal, water, wood,
655
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and each one of those, it's a brilliant system.
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It really is.
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And, you know, I'd encourage you, if you have any
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interest in that, you can learn that. I I know
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there's some stuff with Eden. I know Dundee, Dallin, Donna's
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daughter does a lot with the five elements. I think
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she has a book out there. You can also take
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00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.300
a test and kind of test what you are. What
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I think is most brilliant about that system is how
664
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it ties kind of your tendencies to energetics and emotions.
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It helps you be more compassionate with differences inside yourself
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and inside others.
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I think there's just a beautiful thing to that.
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But I wanted to say that, you know, I think
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we're all meant to have all the elements in balance, right?
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A hundred percent. A hundred percent. You know, it's funny.
671
00:37:35.190 --> 00:37:38.489
I still remember, you know, I am primary wood and
672
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I'm from New York. We don't tend to be the
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00:37:40.300 --> 00:37:44.179
most patient people in the world. And I remember like
674
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learning about wood. So wood people were very directive. We
675
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:51.480
get things done. We're good leaders and visionaries, but when
676
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we're stressed, that can become impatience and anger and bossiness, criticalness,
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00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.250
things like that, frustration. And I remember I was on
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a line for something in New York and it was
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taking so long and everyone was procrastinating. I could feel
680
00:38:06.949 --> 00:38:09.969
the pressure building. And I was thinking, what is wrong
681
00:38:09.989 --> 00:38:11.849
with you? Like get a grip girl. And then I thought,
682
00:38:11.909 --> 00:38:14.989
wait a minute, you're not just a big old bitch.
683
00:38:15.030 --> 00:38:17.570
You're just a one out of balance. You know, like
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I'm not a bad person. I'm just out of balance
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00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.389
in my element. And it's, Every element is unpleasant when
686
00:38:24.429 --> 00:38:26.409
it's out of balance and everyone is beautiful to be
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00:38:26.469 --> 00:38:28.750
around when it is. So it took the judgment out
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00:38:28.789 --> 00:38:31.570
of it for me. But also the beautiful thing for
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me was that it really made, encouraged me to start
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learning the other languages because as a practitioner, if I
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00:38:38.389 --> 00:38:40.889
get someone who's a primary water, like wood people are,
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00:38:41.309 --> 00:38:44.860
there's a problem. What is the straightest arrow between me
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00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.360
and that problem? I just want to look right for
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the solution. If you're a different element, more fiery, more watery,
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00:38:51.769 --> 00:38:54.670
That's not how you work. So if I want to
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00:38:54.710 --> 00:38:57.130
be an effective practitioner, I need to be able to
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speak those other languages and understand them. And I know
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I became a much more effective practitioner because I would
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00:39:05.550 --> 00:39:08.940
start to speak those other languages and people would feel
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00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.679
just inherently more understood by me without even understanding why.
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00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.989
Like for example, people who are very earthy They're not
702
00:39:18.139 --> 00:39:22.239
self motivated. They're motivated by their community and by their family.
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00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.679
So I might say to them, you know, the healthier
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00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:28.260
you are, then you model that for your family and
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00:39:28.340 --> 00:39:31.420
they get to see that. Or maybe you could do
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00:39:31.460 --> 00:39:35.400
this with your family. So I would, you know, try
707
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.960
to use languages and methods that would speak their language
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00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.469
that would motivate them to take care of themselves. That
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00:39:43.510 --> 00:39:45.730
would not be how I would speak to a water element.
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00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:48.789
So when you start to learn these languages, not just
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00:39:48.809 --> 00:39:51.730
with clients, but then with other friends and family, it
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00:39:51.789 --> 00:39:55.650
creates these beautiful bridges and not everyone is like us,
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00:39:55.929 --> 00:39:57.750
you know? So, and I don't want to be just
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00:39:57.829 --> 00:40:00.650
around woody people. I want to be with other people
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as well. So it balances me and increases my effectiveness
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00:40:04.949 --> 00:40:08.210
as a practitioner and makes me a better friend. Yeah. Yeah.
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And that was what I was thinking about was for,
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so there's a bunch of folks out there that probably
719
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are listening to this by like, well, how does this
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apply to me?
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Blah, blah, blah.
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You've had thousands of clients you've worked on. I don't
723
00:40:20.889 --> 00:40:22.449
know how many, but I know you've worked on a lot.
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You've been doing it so long. Maybe give folks some
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examples of, you know, you have clients come in, and
726
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:35.019
I know we used to talk about it at Eden.
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00:40:36.059 --> 00:40:40.860
Most everybody's ungrounded or unbalanced. How does that show up?
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I mean, you know, I don't put you on the
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00:40:43.130 --> 00:40:45.389
spot here, but maybe some of the more common ways
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that shows up for your clients. So people that are
731
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listening can go, oh, man, that's going on in my life,
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you know?
733
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Yeah. So and honestly, you know, it's interesting because when
734
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I mentor new practitioners and students and I work with
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00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.929
people who are in the energy world, I have to.
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patiently back them up because they want to get to
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things that they think are more interesting. And I actually, like,
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I just want to get, honestly, this is the perfect
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subject to bring to me, Jeffrey, because grounding is the
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very first thing I do. It's like making sure, it's
741
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like if I want to plant things in my yard
742
00:41:23.690 --> 00:41:26.030
and the dirt is dry and it hasn't been turned
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over in 10 years, I can have the best seeds
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00:41:29.130 --> 00:41:31.409
in the world. Nothing's going to grow. But when you
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till the soil and get some water in there and
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move it around, it starts growing without before even putting
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00:41:36.949 --> 00:41:39.429
your seeds in there. And that's what the grounding is.
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It's just the soil from which everything else springs, every
749
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other energy. So very often, first of all, like physically,
750
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.039
I will often see trouble with digestion. Digestion is a
751
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:59.510
very earthy physical thing that we do. And it's very
752
00:41:59.570 --> 00:42:05.829
affected by stress and being ungrounded. So certainly, digestion is something,
753
00:42:06.250 --> 00:42:10.849
but really like anxiety, depression, you know, a lot of
754
00:42:10.869 --> 00:42:15.679
these emotional stressors that people deal with is because they're
755
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:21.099
not grounded. You don't have that inherent feeling of safety.
756
00:42:21.219 --> 00:42:23.420
It's like when I lived in the city, I would
757
00:42:23.460 --> 00:42:25.219
walk in the park, but I wouldn't walk at night
758
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.869
because any public park, any of you out there go
759
00:42:27.909 --> 00:42:29.630
to New York, do not walk in the parks at night.
760
00:42:30.090 --> 00:42:33.900
But sometimes it would be like dusk. And I thought, okay,
761
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:37.659
I can do this. And it'd be this slight sensation
762
00:42:37.780 --> 00:42:43.610
of heightened vigilance and heightened awareness. I wasn't quite as
763
00:42:43.670 --> 00:42:46.889
relaxed with it. That's the best way I can describe
764
00:42:46.949 --> 00:42:50.530
the feeling in you when you're not grounded. So there
765
00:42:50.570 --> 00:42:54.280
might be just, you know, people are a little more vigilant.
766
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:58.440
They're a little, they kind of, look for reasons not
767
00:42:58.539 --> 00:43:02.699
to feel safe, not to relax because they don't have
768
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:07.340
that foundational way of feeling safe and at home. The
769
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.719
feeling of like when you've been away on vacation for
770
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.639
a long time and then you walk in your house,
771
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.840
no matter how great the vacation was, that feeling of
772
00:43:14.900 --> 00:43:18.900
sleeping in your own bed, that's what being grounded feels like.
773
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.460
The feeling of eating your own food, of looking at
774
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:25.239
the stuff in your house, being with your pets, that
775
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.829
just deep sensation of like being at home, being in
776
00:43:28.869 --> 00:43:31.469
the pocket. That's what it feels like when we're grounded.
777
00:43:32.070 --> 00:43:36.719
And unfortunately, many, many, many of us don't walk around
778
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:41.659
feeling that way. So I will look for just in
779
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:46.500
their language, their body language, what they're talking about, this
780
00:43:46.659 --> 00:43:50.440
general feeling of, is this person at home in their life?
781
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.360
Or are they not at home in their life? And
782
00:43:53.460 --> 00:43:57.480
that can express in a number of different ways, you know,
783
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.500
whether it's a little bit of anxiety, a little bit
784
00:44:00.539 --> 00:44:03.949
of disconnection, the color feels a little turned down on
785
00:44:03.989 --> 00:44:05.710
their TV, like everything's just.
786
00:44:05.590 --> 00:44:09.110
A little duller, or it's turned up a little too high.
787
00:44:09.130 --> 00:44:12.329
You know, it's a little too bright. There's a lot
788
00:44:12.369 --> 00:44:17.550
of foods they can't eat. They're sensitive to many, many things.
789
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.280
It's one thing just to be allergic to goldenrod. It's
790
00:44:20.340 --> 00:44:23.289
another thing that Every plant, dust.
791
00:44:23.909 --> 00:44:27.610
Mold, EMFs, all of that affects you. So this kind
792
00:44:27.670 --> 00:44:34.599
of systemic feeling, whether it's physical or emotional, about not
793
00:44:34.699 --> 00:44:36.139
quite feeling safe and at home.
794
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.019
Yeah, and I had this vision while you were talking
795
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:42.940
about someone listening to the show, they're driving their car.
796
00:44:44.019 --> 00:44:45.699
And they're like, oh, that's me. You know, I'm just
797
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.269
having a, I'm just really off, you know. or somebody
798
00:44:50.489 --> 00:44:53.489
at work and they're like, well, I can't stand up
799
00:44:53.570 --> 00:44:57.300
and do the, you know, the breathing technique or even
800
00:44:57.340 --> 00:44:58.539
do the hookup.
801
00:44:58.980 --> 00:44:59.179
Right.
802
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:02.380
Cause they got their hands on the steering wheel. It's like,
803
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.559
what can I do right now?
804
00:45:05.300 --> 00:45:08.800
Right now. So for example, if you do that visualization
805
00:45:09.780 --> 00:45:12.500
of the energy in the heart and you can do
806
00:45:12.539 --> 00:45:14.280
it one at a time. So you, you just like
807
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:17.679
imagine there's a white, warm energy in the center of
808
00:45:17.699 --> 00:45:19.960
the heart and with every inhale it's expanding a little
809
00:45:19.980 --> 00:45:22.969
bit and every exhale it's contracting a little bit you
810
00:45:23.010 --> 00:45:26.510
start there then when you inhale you send the energy
811
00:45:26.630 --> 00:45:29.690
down to mother earth and you bring the white end
812
00:45:29.730 --> 00:45:32.210
and exhale bring it back to the heart do that
813
00:45:32.250 --> 00:45:35.130
a few times same thing inhale send it up to
814
00:45:35.150 --> 00:45:38.150
the heavens exhale bring it back to the heart so
815
00:45:38.210 --> 00:45:40.050
you can do that no matter where you are if
816
00:45:40.099 --> 00:45:41.860
you're driving do not do it with your eyes closed
817
00:45:43.219 --> 00:45:46.239
And if you add that breathing to it, just breathing
818
00:45:46.380 --> 00:45:49.469
in the nose and out the mouth tells the body
819
00:45:49.510 --> 00:45:51.909
to relax. And I will use that. I will be,
820
00:45:52.449 --> 00:45:55.210
you know, friends of mine teach like yoga classes and stuff.
821
00:45:55.289 --> 00:45:57.369
And they always say they love when I go because
822
00:45:57.409 --> 00:46:00.230
they can tell when something's working because they'll hear me exhale.
823
00:46:00.289 --> 00:46:04.030
I can't control it. I'll be like, ah. And what
824
00:46:04.050 --> 00:46:06.309
a funny thing is, the rest of the room will
825
00:46:06.349 --> 00:46:09.309
often start doing it with me. So you don't have
826
00:46:09.349 --> 00:46:11.730
to do it with the sound, but exhaling through the
827
00:46:11.769 --> 00:46:14.789
mouth with a gentle sigh as you inhale through, but
828
00:46:14.929 --> 00:46:17.230
you can just do that visualization. And I'm telling you
829
00:46:17.449 --> 00:46:20.250
that will enhance your grounding. Yeah.
830
00:46:20.269 --> 00:46:23.489
And it's, uh, I would say it's something I've experienced
831
00:46:23.510 --> 00:46:28.199
with grounding or, you know, just being better at sensing
832
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:28.780
when I'm off.
833
00:46:29.820 --> 00:46:30.099
Yeah.
834
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.760
The more you do it, it's like, it's like working
835
00:46:32.780 --> 00:46:35.059
a muscle, right? Like the more you do it, the more,
836
00:46:35.099 --> 00:46:39.389
you know, like, Oh, And I was, I was going
837
00:46:39.409 --> 00:46:41.150
through that and I went back to the, I was
838
00:46:41.170 --> 00:46:41.889
thinking of the driving.
839
00:46:41.909 --> 00:46:42.030
Yeah.
840
00:46:42.050 --> 00:46:43.489
Don't close your eyes while you're driving.
841
00:46:43.989 --> 00:46:44.170
Yeah.
842
00:46:44.510 --> 00:46:46.550
But one of the things that happens to me, especially
843
00:46:46.570 --> 00:46:50.409
if I'm on a longer run is if I am
844
00:46:50.469 --> 00:46:54.050
grounded in a, I, I, a car is actually for me,
845
00:46:54.110 --> 00:46:57.940
an amazing place to connect with spirit. I think it's
846
00:46:58.019 --> 00:47:00.599
because of the, I don't want to call it the
847
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.349
rote nature of driving. Like you're, yes, you're attentive and
848
00:47:05.389 --> 00:47:08.880
you're vigilant and all that, but there's not a whole
849
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:14.260
lot of other processing going on other than driving. But
850
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:20.570
maybe talk about that a little bit, about the spiritual
851
00:47:21.690 --> 00:47:24.889
nature and importance of grounding.
852
00:47:25.889 --> 00:47:28.610
Yeah. So when you think about it, what is the
853
00:47:28.650 --> 00:47:31.730
purpose of spirituality? I mean, I think the purpose of spirituality,
854
00:47:31.750 --> 00:47:35.900
at least for me, is to feel more connected to
855
00:47:35.980 --> 00:47:39.489
all that is, you know, regardless. I'm a Jewish person
856
00:47:39.570 --> 00:47:42.349
who lives in a church and who's a bit of
857
00:47:42.409 --> 00:47:47.250
a pagan. And I will grab, I feel very lucky
858
00:47:47.329 --> 00:47:49.969
that I was brought up Jewish, but I didn't, I
859
00:47:50.010 --> 00:47:52.260
wasn't forced to go to synagogue. I wasn't forced to
860
00:47:52.300 --> 00:47:54.679
get a bat mitzvah. So there was no repelling to that.
861
00:47:56.199 --> 00:48:00.179
And so in my spirituality, I will grab whatever works
862
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.849
for me and bring that into my life. So I
863
00:48:03.909 --> 00:48:08.070
think for me, spirituality is how do I ever more
864
00:48:08.329 --> 00:48:14.599
expand my capacity as a human to love myself, expand
865
00:48:14.619 --> 00:48:18.239
that love out to others, to expand myself as a human,
866
00:48:18.659 --> 00:48:21.559
to always try to be a positive healing force in
867
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.219
the world for myself, for my friends and family, for
868
00:48:25.260 --> 00:48:32.190
my students and my colleagues, for my community, town, city, state, world, universe,
869
00:48:32.650 --> 00:48:36.920
et cetera. So it always starts with me. And I
870
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.440
find that, and so that is my, and I state
871
00:48:40.460 --> 00:48:42.820
that as an intention pretty much every day in front
872
00:48:42.860 --> 00:48:45.329
of an altar before I do my energy work. So
873
00:48:45.349 --> 00:48:50.690
it's pretty powerful for me. And I'm a human being
874
00:48:50.929 --> 00:48:53.590
and stuff happens and throws me off. And I'm cranky
875
00:48:53.610 --> 00:48:55.750
with someone or mean to someone or mean to myself.
876
00:48:55.829 --> 00:48:58.250
And all of that happens. Stating the intention is very
877
00:48:58.309 --> 00:49:02.929
powerful for me. But again, to me, being a real
878
00:49:02.989 --> 00:49:10.130
adherent of energy medicine, doing that grounding connection to the
879
00:49:10.269 --> 00:49:14.550
earth and the sky feels like I am enlisting these
880
00:49:14.849 --> 00:49:19.590
unbelievably powerful forces of nature to partner with me in
881
00:49:19.630 --> 00:49:24.130
my quest. So, you know, again, what am I capable
882
00:49:24.190 --> 00:49:26.250
of physically? You know, I'm a pretty strong chick. I
883
00:49:26.269 --> 00:49:28.789
can do a lot, but can I spin my earth
884
00:49:28.849 --> 00:49:32.300
in his access? No. Can I make the sunrise and
885
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.840
the sunset? No, you know, I can't do those. I'm
886
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.389
like a, grain of sand next to, you know, a
887
00:49:40.489 --> 00:49:44.550
monumental mountain, you know, next to the entire earth. So
888
00:49:44.610 --> 00:49:50.449
when I ground myself, I am communing with and enlisting
889
00:49:50.650 --> 00:49:54.739
those huge forces of nature who are rooting me on.
890
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.880
For me, when I enlist those forces, not only am
891
00:49:58.940 --> 00:50:01.619
I gaining from them, but they are cheering me on
892
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.179
because they want nature. We're part of nature. It wants
893
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:09.309
us to commune and enlist And those forces of nature
894
00:50:09.489 --> 00:50:15.789
are both physical and spiritual to me. They're incredible physical
895
00:50:15.849 --> 00:50:20.730
forces that create and move our world. But they're also,
896
00:50:20.750 --> 00:50:24.769
it's a mother and a father that is always available
897
00:50:24.829 --> 00:50:26.949
to me. And that feeds me. I mean, I don't
898
00:50:26.969 --> 00:50:29.150
know about you, but many of us did not have
899
00:50:29.170 --> 00:50:32.610
the best parents in the world. If you're lucky enough
900
00:50:32.650 --> 00:50:36.309
to have really healthy, loving parents, both mother and father,
901
00:50:36.909 --> 00:50:38.329
I hate to say it, but I think you're the
902
00:50:38.369 --> 00:50:42.780
exception in life. So for me also to know that
903
00:50:42.820 --> 00:50:44.929
that mother is always there and that father is always
904
00:50:44.969 --> 00:50:47.900
there that I can tap into and co-create with, um,
905
00:50:47.940 --> 00:50:53.099
is incredible and grounding those grounding forces, those grounding exercises
906
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:57.480
of connecting and encouraging the yin energy from earth, the
907
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.139
yang energy from heaven aligns me with that.
908
00:51:00.780 --> 00:51:04.659
And I love the, uh, the intention setting, you know, your,
909
00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:08.110
statement is my life statement, which is how do I
910
00:51:08.150 --> 00:51:11.010
learn how to love myself more so I can love
911
00:51:11.070 --> 00:51:14.210
others more? And that's really, you know, you said in
912
00:51:14.230 --> 00:51:17.110
a much broader way, but a broader context, but that's
913
00:51:17.309 --> 00:51:24.329
really very similar. And I was thinking, you know, with
914
00:51:24.389 --> 00:51:27.639
intention and with visualization and that, like you've been talking
915
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.079
about and you've shared in these exercises, is bringing that
916
00:51:31.769 --> 00:51:34.550
thing that is greater than you into your body. I
917
00:51:34.570 --> 00:51:38.849
do this exercise called swallowing the sun. And, you know,
918
00:51:38.869 --> 00:51:41.230
if it's a nice sunny day, I can go outside,
919
00:51:41.250 --> 00:51:43.829
of course, you know, when it's warmer and I'll look
920
00:51:43.869 --> 00:51:48.519
at the sun with my eyes closed and I'll pretend
921
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:51.239
I'll raise my arms and breathe in and pretend I'm
922
00:51:52.340 --> 00:51:54.360
swallowing the sun. And then it's going all the way
923
00:51:54.420 --> 00:51:56.920
through me and down into the ground. And it's quite
924
00:51:56.980 --> 00:52:00.010
amazing when you do it because the more, You do
925
00:52:00.510 --> 00:52:04.300
it multiple times. Obviously, it's no set thing for it,
926
00:52:04.349 --> 00:52:07.130
but I usually do it three, four, maybe even up
927
00:52:07.150 --> 00:52:10.050
to six times. Your body begins to fill with light,
928
00:52:10.909 --> 00:52:16.880
and that begins to then shoot from you, you know,
929
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.519
out into the world. And I think that's really what's
930
00:52:21.539 --> 00:52:24.400
meant to be. So now we're getting where I always
931
00:52:24.420 --> 00:52:28.510
say the plane's landing, and we're getting to the end.
932
00:52:28.530 --> 00:52:29.349
We started our descent.
933
00:52:29.730 --> 00:52:30.309
I don't make you.
934
00:52:30.329 --> 00:52:34.409
We're on our descent to get buckled up. And again,
935
00:52:34.489 --> 00:52:36.719
I know I shared this with you before. A lot
936
00:52:36.739 --> 00:52:38.559
of times I throw this in the lap of my guests.
937
00:52:39.699 --> 00:52:43.820
But really, again, just practical stuff. And you shared some
938
00:52:43.860 --> 00:52:47.380
really good practical stuff. But if you had to give
939
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.900
someone three things, they were in your office and you're
940
00:52:51.019 --> 00:52:52.940
going through and he's like, give them three things they
941
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:53.559
could walk.
942
00:52:53.380 --> 00:52:54.179
Away with today.
943
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.699
It's going to demonstrably change their life as it relates
944
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:01.260
to being balanced and being grounded, what would you share?
945
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.300
I would have them do that Qigong move with the
946
00:53:05.380 --> 00:53:08.880
ocean breath. I would have them do that grounding hookup
947
00:53:08.900 --> 00:53:10.820
where you sit on your hand and you hold the crown.
948
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:16.920
If people want to, let me just think about that
949
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:19.639
a second. I would do the visualization of the energy
950
00:53:19.659 --> 00:53:22.230
in the heart and sending it up and down. I
951
00:53:22.289 --> 00:53:25.349
also think What in energy medicine is called a hookup
952
00:53:25.530 --> 00:53:28.369
is a really powerful one, one finger in the belly button,
953
00:53:28.570 --> 00:53:30.909
one finger between the eyebrows. And you just kind of
954
00:53:31.050 --> 00:53:37.280
stretch that up. You know, it lines up these two
955
00:53:37.340 --> 00:53:39.960
powerful energies. But what I love about those energies, it
956
00:53:40.019 --> 00:53:44.320
lines up what's called governing and central vessels. Central goes
957
00:53:44.380 --> 00:53:46.840
up the front, considered the yin part of the body.
958
00:53:47.260 --> 00:53:49.429
And then governing goes up the back, considered the yang
959
00:53:49.469 --> 00:53:51.610
part of the body. But what I love about those
960
00:53:51.630 --> 00:53:54.769
when I've studied them more is that I think about
961
00:53:54.789 --> 00:53:56.329
this a lot and it kind of relates back to
962
00:53:56.349 --> 00:53:58.570
what we're talking about and about being in New York
963
00:53:58.610 --> 00:54:02.489
or being in different places and wanting to feel safe,
964
00:54:02.550 --> 00:54:05.110
but also not wanting to be closed off. Because I
965
00:54:05.170 --> 00:54:08.630
think that feeling of being closed off really disconnects us
966
00:54:08.690 --> 00:54:12.090
from both our grounding and our spirituality. And so doing
967
00:54:12.130 --> 00:54:16.719
a hookup, the yin energy, the central aspect of that
968
00:54:16.739 --> 00:54:20.699
is what a big part of that is being able
969
00:54:20.739 --> 00:54:24.099
to be vulnerable and really feel an exchange between us
970
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:26.679
and the rest of the world and all of humanity.
971
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.639
And I think given where our world is, this is deeply,
972
00:54:29.699 --> 00:54:33.579
deeply important to me, finding ways to connect. What governing
973
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:36.800
does on the young aspect is that that helps us
974
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:40.739
stand strong in our truth, strong in our authenticity and
975
00:54:40.820 --> 00:54:43.679
unable to be moved from that. So if you are
976
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:47.449
strong in your authenticity and firm in who you are,
977
00:54:48.019 --> 00:54:50.480
then you are able to be vulnerable and really connect
978
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:52.920
with people, but you need both. And when you do
979
00:54:52.940 --> 00:54:57.539
the hookup, it really strengthens both of those aspects. And
980
00:54:58.820 --> 00:55:00.840
really like for me right now, as part of my
981
00:55:00.900 --> 00:55:04.380
personal activism is to look for ways to connect with people,
982
00:55:04.780 --> 00:55:09.429
regardless of whether they, you know, for example, I am
983
00:55:09.659 --> 00:55:14.670
a New York Jewish gay energy worker. A lot of
984
00:55:14.750 --> 00:55:18.510
people would mean me harm in this world. And I
985
00:55:18.570 --> 00:55:21.349
am not going to let their beliefs, I'm not going
986
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to let that turn me into hateful person. That's my activism.
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I'm not letting that pull me off because I believe
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at the core, we are all the same. We all
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want love. We all want to belong. We all want
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00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.159
to feel safe. We all want our families and friends
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to feel safe. So when you do a hookup and
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really make that strong, I can both stand strong in
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who I am and not defend it, just be in it.
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And I can keep an openness and a softness towards
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the rest of the world. So it deeply grounds you,
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but it really enhances again, that yin and yang quality.
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And I've gone off script a little bit there.
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But for me, it's really important. And that's what's needed
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in the world.
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So, so folks, you know, grounding and balancing is your
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00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:09.519
first step towards making the world a better place.
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I mean, we, we, we see it right now.
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We're watching it right now, you know, the wars and the,
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00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:20.440
And just people falling into fear and then you justify
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00:56:20.460 --> 00:56:24.849
your beliefs and your perspective and you're, you're taking away
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00:56:24.909 --> 00:56:29.190
someone else's sovereignty for your beliefs. And, and that, you know,
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00:56:29.510 --> 00:56:31.050
unfortunately that's a two way street.
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00:56:31.809 --> 00:56:31.949
Yeah.
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Um, no, that's, that's perfect. Margie is perfect. I think
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it's important to share.
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So now you have, I noticed, um, we didn't talk
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about your, your sense you shared with me before the call.
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So maybe, you know, you can talk about that, talk
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about your, your business. I know they can find you
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00:56:49.489 --> 00:56:56.590
at fineworks.com, F-E-I-N-W-O-R-K-S.com. And I'll have all these links that
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00:56:56.610 --> 00:56:58.380
Margie shares within the notes.
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Yeah.
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But maybe, maybe talk a little bit about, and I
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00:57:03.260 --> 00:57:05.159
know cents aren't for everybody, but talk a little bit
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about what, you know, what that's done in your life.
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Yeah. So since I've come upstate, I, like I say,
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I've gone kind of feral. I have taps in my
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maple trees as we speak. And, um, And I've started
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00:57:16.329 --> 00:57:19.150
growing things. And one of my favorite plants is sweetgrass.
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00:57:20.050 --> 00:57:22.409
Maybe some people are familiar with Braiding Sweetgrass, the book.
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00:57:22.949 --> 00:57:25.789
And sweetgrass is considered to be one of the highest
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00:57:25.829 --> 00:57:30.340
vibration plants there are. And the smell is really amazing.
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00:57:30.780 --> 00:57:32.679
So if you're someone like me who works with people
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00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.300
all the time, and I do my own spiritual work,
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00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:39.000
having a clear, clean, energetic space is really important. So
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00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:42.539
if I have six people in my house over the course,
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00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:44.239
I work at my home over the course of the day,
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00:57:44.829 --> 00:57:48.510
I have heard about cancer and depression and all sorts
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00:57:48.550 --> 00:57:51.170
of really heavy things. I want to be able to
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00:57:51.230 --> 00:57:52.690
have that in my home, but then I want to
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00:57:52.710 --> 00:57:56.389
be able to clear it. So traditionally what folks do,
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00:57:56.489 --> 00:57:59.809
Native Americans, whether South or North, is that they clear
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00:57:59.849 --> 00:58:03.329
the energy first, whether it's with sage or they sometimes
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use Palo Santo. And what I've done is I've created
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sprays from them. I like it better than smoke because
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00:58:09.389 --> 00:58:13.070
it clears immediately and it's a much fresher scent. So
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I've created a white sage spray. So what I do
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first is I spray the sage over myself and in
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00:58:19.789 --> 00:58:24.269
my space, the smell is divine. And then I spray
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00:58:24.289 --> 00:58:27.219
the sweet grass. So once the energy is clear, then
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I can raise the energy. So then I spray the
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sweet grass, which just sweetens everything up. And so I
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00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:37.159
started making these and selling them and folks seem to
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00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.960
really love them. And I make some other products as well,
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00:58:39.980 --> 00:58:42.230
but those are my two favorites. main things that I
1051
00:58:42.349 --> 00:58:44.869
use that really work beautifully. And I like, again, better
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00:58:44.889 --> 00:58:47.980
than burning because it's very hard to control burning. You
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00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:49.679
do one little bit of sage and the whole house
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00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:51.639
smells that way. The next person comes in and it
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00:58:51.699 --> 00:58:57.760
really smells. Once you spray the sprays, the scent is
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00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.699
gone within 15 seconds, but the energy has cleared. So
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they've become a really essential part for me of keeping
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00:59:04.949 --> 00:59:09.340
myself clean and clear and in in keeping my space
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00:59:09.500 --> 00:59:12.699
clean and clear. And I have a really deep, ever
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00:59:12.739 --> 00:59:16.079
deepening relationship with plants in the natural world. And I
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00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:20.659
love to bring them in. Um, so my website has
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00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.159
a whole store with all kinds of fun things that
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I have, um, used. If anyone from, I will tell
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you if you want to anyone from this, uh, podcast
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00:59:31.340 --> 00:59:33.579
wants to go on and use it, use the discount
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00:59:33.619 --> 00:59:36.039
code kinfolk, and that'll give you, that'll give you 20
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00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:39.380
or 25% off. I can't remember which one. Very glad
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00:59:39.420 --> 00:59:39.730
to have you.
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I'll make sure I have that in the notes for everybody.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:45.900
Um, you know, I know Margie, you, you teach a lot,
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you do different classes, you have, is there anything else
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00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:49.099
going on you want to share?
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00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.099
Um, I'm just about to launch something I've been working
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00:59:52.179 --> 00:59:55.260
on for a year. It's called your energy toolkit and
1076
00:59:55.309 --> 00:59:58.090
it's a learning platform. It'll be a subscription series. And
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00:59:58.150 --> 01:00:00.760
what it is, It's kind of a one-stop shop for
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01:00:00.900 --> 01:00:03.889
everything energy. So for example, you'll see a whole bunch
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01:00:03.909 --> 01:00:08.070
of folders on there. One might be physical wellness, emotional wellness,
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01:00:08.190 --> 01:00:11.820
pain management. Also, you can do it via the systems.
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01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:14.820
There's a whole section on the aura, the meridians, the chakras.
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01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:18.679
So let's say you have chronic, let's say irritable bowel issues.
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01:00:19.030 --> 01:00:22.030
You can go into physical wellness, go to large intestine.
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01:00:22.050 --> 01:00:24.989
There will be a 10 minute energy routine. You can
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01:00:25.010 --> 01:00:27.840
hook into always a page on like, what is the
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01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:31.539
large intestine, how it works physically and the energetic aspects,
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01:00:31.579 --> 01:00:36.179
emotional aspects of it. And then I've done literally 200
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01:00:36.179 --> 01:00:39.159
videos of energy exercises. So you can go there and
1089
01:00:39.179 --> 01:00:41.360
just explore, or you can go and search and just
1090
01:00:41.420 --> 01:00:45.849
put in constipation and energy work will come up. Also,
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01:00:45.869 --> 01:00:48.519
if you're a practitioner and, There's like a homework assigner.
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01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:51.000
So if you are a practitioner, you assign homework, you
1093
01:00:51.019 --> 01:00:53.719
can just click on the exercises and then just email
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01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:57.239
it to your client and they will have me doing
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01:00:57.260 --> 01:01:00.239
the videos. So I'm really proud of it. It's in
1096
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:05.719
beta testing right now. That's going to be called yourenergytoolkit.com.
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01:01:06.409 --> 01:01:08.530
And that's going to be up and running probably in
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01:01:08.550 --> 01:01:10.769
about two weeks. So that's the newest thing I've done.
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01:01:11.389 --> 01:01:13.650
And I'm really proud and excited about it.
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01:01:13.869 --> 01:01:17.300
Wow, that's cool. Okay, well. Let's see.
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01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:23.610
We're broadcasting this on the 28th of March. So, yeah,
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01:01:23.619 --> 01:01:26.849
it'll be perfect timing for that new toolkit. I'll definitely
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01:01:26.869 --> 01:01:28.690
have to check that out. We'll make sure we have
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01:01:28.730 --> 01:01:29.070
that on.
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01:01:30.090 --> 01:01:31.349
Thanks, Jeffrey. I appreciate that.
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01:01:31.389 --> 01:01:33.929
Yeah, the notes and everything. That sounds amazing, Margie.
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01:01:35.289 --> 01:01:36.869
It'll have, if I just may, one last thing. It'll
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01:01:36.909 --> 01:01:38.679
have a function. Let's say you just want to check
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01:01:38.699 --> 01:01:40.139
it out and you don't want to sign on to
1110
01:01:40.179 --> 01:01:44.000
the whole thing. There's about 30 energy routines on there.
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01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:50.449
Anything from depression, anxiety, invisibility to gut, bloating, pain, et cetera.
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01:01:50.849 --> 01:01:53.070
And you can just go on there and buy the
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01:01:53.170 --> 01:01:56.010
individual routines. They're eight bucks each, or you can buy
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01:01:56.050 --> 01:01:58.230
like a package. And that's a way you can just
1115
01:01:58.269 --> 01:02:00.090
go on there and check it out without having to
1116
01:02:00.150 --> 01:02:03.039
sign on to the whole thing. We're trying to create
1117
01:02:03.139 --> 01:02:05.719
as many ways as possible for people just to experiment
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01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.760
and explore and to bring energy medicine into the world.
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01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:09.099
And I'll vouch.
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01:02:09.139 --> 01:02:12.739
I mean, Margie's an amazing teacher. She taught me. I'm
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01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:15.199
not sure how much I learned, but, you know.
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01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:17.260
We learned a lot.
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01:02:17.500 --> 01:02:21.920
She's done, does amazing healing work, taught many, many, many,
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01:02:21.940 --> 01:02:22.780
many students.
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01:02:22.980 --> 01:02:26.389
So it's a blessing. I'll definitely have to check it out.
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01:02:26.409 --> 01:02:27.610
Thank you, Jeffrey. I appreciate that.
1127
01:02:28.510 --> 01:02:31.730
So usually I wrap up the show with a prayer.
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01:02:32.070 --> 01:02:33.909
So I want to do a quick prayer and then
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01:02:35.329 --> 01:02:36.449
we'll get to say goodbye, folks.
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01:02:36.489 --> 01:02:36.590
So.
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01:02:37.099 --> 01:02:39.559
Thank you so much for being here today. I'm so
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01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:42.500
blessed to have you here.
1133
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:45.739
And I'm sure the folks picked up some stuff. And
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01:02:46.059 --> 01:02:48.019
we're going to do our best for those of you
1135
01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:49.639
that are listening to the audio to make sure we
1136
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:52.480
share enough material where you have some takeaways and we
1137
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:54.760
can give you some downloads. So I'll work on that.
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01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:58.599
Heavenly Father, open our hearts, our minds, our eyes, and
1139
01:02:58.659 --> 01:03:02.679
our ears to all that is you. And guide us, Lord.
1140
01:03:02.739 --> 01:03:05.480
Guide us, Lord, in the connecting with you. with all
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01:03:05.500 --> 01:03:08.679
of your support and keeping us grounded and balanced and
1142
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.909
keeping the best version of us so we can carry
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01:03:12.409 --> 01:03:15.449
the mission of your love forward to all who are
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01:03:15.469 --> 01:03:18.550
in this world. And thank you for the blessing of
1145
01:03:18.650 --> 01:03:24.090
Margie here sharing her purpose, her design, her connection, and
1146
01:03:24.829 --> 01:03:30.769
opening these pathways for folks to share that universal love.
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01:03:32.289 --> 01:03:34.050
Thank you. In the name of the Father and the
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01:03:35.860 --> 01:03:37.739
In your son Jesus and the Holy Spirit, amen.
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01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:40.099
Amen. So motivated.
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01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.369
Thank you so much. Blessings. Thank you, Margie. Thank you, Jeffrey.
1151
01:03:44.409 --> 01:03:47.250
This was really fun. I hope you folks got some
1152
01:03:47.349 --> 01:03:49.150
great tips. It was really nice to spend time with
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01:03:49.190 --> 01:04:03.739
you all. Amen.