Vanessa Lee

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Hello, Kara.
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Hi Jenna.
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How are you?
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I'm so good.
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Looking ravishing today.
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Thank you.
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You as well.
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Actually, we're giving two very different vibes.
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But when you walked in, I was like, you are looking comfy.
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Like that is, this is a great outfit.
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Thank you so much.
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I feel like comfy yet slightly feminine.
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And just kind of like, this is my jam.
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This is where I live.
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I mean, it's so good.
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And you know, you know, a good ballet flat will do that.
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That's it'll give you the feminine.
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I know I'm just like play against it and always wear like an athletic sneaker because I like to work out.
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But like this, I've been leaning into more.
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It's a new era for me of femininity.
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I mean, start with the feet.
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It's looking great.
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It's looking great.
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Start with the feet.
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Which I mean, uh speaking of you working out, I saw your stories this morning.
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6 a.m.
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training mate.
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This woman does it all.
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I seriously don't know how she does it.
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She has the little ones, the two little ones.
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And then, okay, let me, it's the training mate, then it's the breakfast, and then it's the perfect shot of I don't know who you're packing lunch for.
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Must be your older one.
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Uh yeah.
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Like the perfect lunch.
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Like I want that lunch.
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It's, I'm not gonna lie, it's very stressful and it's a constant thing that weighs on me of like packing lunch.
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I don't know if other people feel this, but like nobody told me that like packing lunch would be like a thing that like became such a crux in my life.
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It's your personality now.
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What is she gonna be tomorrow?
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What am I gonna make or how do I pack it?
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And then if I forget something, she'll tell me.
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She'll be like, you forgot my little snack.
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I'm like, oh my god, oh my god.
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And usually I'd be like, well, too bad.
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But I feel like deep in my soul.
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I'm like, oh my God, I forgot that.
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I forgot it.
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Wait.
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I mean, it's also because you're packing lunch the way you pack it.
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Everyone.
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I mean, mutations are like Yes, you set the bar way too high.
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Like, you know, back in the day, or not even back in the day, even the current day, there are parents that it's just like, you get a sandwich and like a bag of chips and that's it.
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Yeah, that's what we used to get.
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That's for sure.
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Yeah, it's not like what your kids are getting.
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It's you guys, there there was like at least 18 ingredients on this plate.
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It's too much on this plate.
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It's honestly too much.
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I mean, you've done this to yourself.
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I I absolutely done this to yourself.
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And now Emma knows she's like, I forgot my surprise.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, I need at least three courses.
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I will say the sprinkles and the fruit make it very colorful.
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It looks plentiful.
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I mean, it is plentiful, but like those things are just in my fridge at all times with children.
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So, like, you're just like, okay, so what did she have yesterday?
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And how can I like switch it up?
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Right.
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It's but those are included in the ingredient list, which is why it looks like there's 18 ingredients.
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Anyways, you're doing a great job.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much.
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Well, I'm glad you're here because we have a great guest today.
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I'm very excited to talk to her.
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I'm obsessed with her content.
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I've been following her content for a long time because I'm also, you know, very into the beauty space.
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It feels very aligned.
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Very aligned.
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So we have Vanessa Lee joining us today.
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She is a globally recognized aesthetic expert, entrepreneur, and founder of The Things We Do.
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With over 17 years in cosmetic dermatology, she's known for natural results, pioneering facial balancing, which I can't wait to talk to her about Chinese facial balancing, and her East Meets West approach that blends advanced aesthetics with traditional Chinese face reading.
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She's also a trusted beauty authority, educator, and speaker, passionate about facial harmony, skin health, and longevity.
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She's all about the like from the inside out.
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We must know more.
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We simply must know more.
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Hi, Vanessa.
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Hi.
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Welcome to the podcast.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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This is so cool.
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I'm so happy to be here with you guys.
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We're just so honored.
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We're so honored.
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I was telling Jenna when we were doing uh your intro that I have been following your content for a long time, watching your video.
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Thank you so much.
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And so very excited to have you here to talk all things facial balance.
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Because Jenna literally, during the what is the intro was like, what is that?
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I was like, well, we're gonna have Vanessa tell us all about facial balancing.
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And it's gonna be great.
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We must know all the tea.
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And also thank you for rocking with me for so long and socials.
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I really appreciate it.
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No, I have just so, so thrilled to see how everything has taken off.
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Well, I guess before we get to that, let's start from the beginning.
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Sure.
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I kind of just want to know, you know, how you grew up, what that was like, what little you was like.
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Did you grow up, like where you grew up?
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Was it a very predominantly Asian community or not?
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Tell us all of that.
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I love telling the backstory.
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Yes of we need the context.
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Because I feel like it just molds everything that you are in your present day.
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So I love you, even when patients come in and they're like, you know, I oh I'm like, oh, where did you come in from?
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And they're like, oh, you know, I took the 405 to the blah blah blah.
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And I'm also like, where did you grow up?
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That's like my second question.
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I love this.
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So I grew up in Chino Hills, which is in Southern California.
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I grew up in Diamond Bar.
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Oh, see, we're neighbors.
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We are When did you graduate high school?
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Oh, this is wow.
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We are getting into the tea.
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Now everybody going, no, you didn't feel comfortable.
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Oh, absolutely.
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2007.
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Oh, great.
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Okay.
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I'm 04.
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I would have never, I was such an age snob, so I probably wouldn't have been partying with your piece, but I was partying with a bunch of diamond bar kids.
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With the Brahmas?
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Yes.
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With the Brahmas?
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Yeah, that's so funny.
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So she's this is the next town over.
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No, it's literally Chino Hills and Diamond Bar right next to each other.
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Yes.
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Okay, so Chino Hills in the early 90s.
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Just to paint the backstory, Chino Hills now is literally Asia.
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All of Asia has come to Chino Hills.
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I love it so much.
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That's true.
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Chino Hills before was known for the cows.
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Yes.
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Not to put the words in your mouth.
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Yes, essentially it was.
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Like there was a stench, it was a constant smelling of cow dung, which was I grew up with it, so I was like, I don't even notice it.
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But everyone who visited was like, this is awful.
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Yeah.
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Are you guys okay out here?
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No wonder why your mom bought out here.
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Like, you know, no wonder why you guys got all this property.
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Like, yeah.
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Anyway, so in the 90s, it was predominantly white.
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And in my elementary school, I think there was one or two other Asian kids, and there were two black kids in the entire school, and there were some Hispanic kids.
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It was predominantly white.
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And um, which to me never really felt like I sit with a lot of Asian women all the time.
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I love my Asian friends.
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I'm obsessed with being Asian.
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You guys should know this.
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I always saw that as oh my God, I have so many cool snacks, and you guys don't.
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Like a superpower.
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Always, always.
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Even as a kid.
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As a kid.
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I mean, saying something.
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I know Jenna.
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Yeah, Jenna can um relate because I know she grew up in a very predominantly white community.
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Yeah, but it's kind of different with snack superpowers.
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Because next door we had Diamond Bar.
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Because my cousins and my family, like I grew up with a huge Asian family.
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I always had exposure to how cool it was to like really live and being my like Filipino American self.
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It never felt like it took away from anything.
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Wow.
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So in school, I was like, you guys don't even know what sago is.
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It's the original boba.
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You know what I mean?
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Like I had, I was like, you don't know what it is?
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Like you guys just have the squeezy squeezes.
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Like we have all of these things.
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The squeezy, like the capri suns?
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No, not the capricess.
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It was like this wax bottle with like the top that comes off.
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Yes, you twist it off.
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And I was like, that's cool.
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Have you ever seen floating tapioca in your drink, in your milk?
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You know what I mean?
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So I was like, this is way cooler than the stuff that you guys have.
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And I love to turn you on to this.
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So it was always like I had both worlds felt very exciting to me and felt very much like I had things to explore.
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So I very much was made fun of by all my Asian cousins.
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Like, you talk like a white girl, like you talk like a valley girl.
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I was always told that, and I never took it as an insult.
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I was like, I'm sorry, you guys.
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I grew up in literally a different area.
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Okay, was like always the energy I had.
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Like, get over it, you guys.
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Like, whatever.
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You guys, but I also obsessed with this energy.
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Like, I can just imagine you as like a tiger being like, get over it.
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Yes.
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I'm a fire tiger, you guys.
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Like, that's my zodiac, and that's who I've always been, like writing straight into the fire.
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You know what I mean?
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Anyway, so, but then at the same time, I was always going to like the Filipino Expo and like the Asian conventions.
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And I was not supposed to be doing this in junior high, but I definitely was calling on the Asian chat line to hang out with like teens older than me and meet me at the mall.
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Were you calling that number?
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What is this number?
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So Southern California, you're getting the number.
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Look into like especially.
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Okay, there's a whole thing with like West Coast Asians and East Coast Asians.
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Yes.
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But SoCal Asian culture was very specific.
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Yes.
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Like loitering in like the parking lot of like Lollicup.
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I mean, we can go into it.
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Hours and I was not calling the hotline, but I was on the Asian chat rooms.
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I was in both.
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So I was.
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And that's uncovered it all.
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I was ASL.
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I was actually, my screen name was L-A-D-X.
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L A D stood for Ladies of Asian Desire.
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I was in an online crew.
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Ladies of Asian Desire.
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And if any of you are out there, please contact me because I would love to catch up.
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Ladies of Asian Desire, L-A-D-X, P9 for you.
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What are you doing?
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You're 12 years old, Vanessa.
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What are you doing in these chat rooms?
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I mean, all of us were in it.
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I mean, it's it's it really was bad.
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When I think about this, did you do chat rooms?
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I mean, ish.
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Oh, we did all the chat rooms.
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I know, but the chat room was like that.
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It was my life.
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I had a beeper.
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I was calling the Asian chat line.
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The Asian chat line was an 800 number that you called and you could say, to enter the chat line, press, you know, number one.
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And then you would get in the room and it would be like, What's up?
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My alias was Gigi.
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What's up?
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This is Gigi, backing it up with that deuce flow.
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Meet me at the mall.
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I'm gonna be like be at the galleria.
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I'm gonna take the B line.
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And you would go and meet up like other teenagers.
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I wasn't a teen, I was 12.
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I'm sure.
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You would meet up other teenagers and just see who's on your jock.
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Can you even?
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I am crying.
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I cannot That is the log line for the episode.
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See who's on your jock.
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See who's on your job.
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See who's on your job.
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I love it.
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And that was it.
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So what was the mall you would go to, Brea?
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Okay, so in the summers, my mom would drop me off every morning on the way to work.
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She commuted all the way from Chino Hills to Northridge.
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So she would drop me off at my cousin's place in Burbank or in Glendale, and we would take the Beeline, which is like a little shuttle bus that you could pay 25 cents to drop you off at the mall.
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So when our parents went to work, we were left to our own devices.
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We were going to the mall meeting these strange boys and then taking photo maker pictures with them.
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Oh, I have a whole box of those photos, those glamour photos.
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I kept all of them.
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I kept all of them.
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Yeah, so that was the summer.
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And then I would go back to school, hang out with my white friends, and be like, you guys don't know shit, dude.
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Did you say boyfriends?
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White friends.
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Oh, white friends.
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I was like, okay.
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I wish I had boyfriends here in the Easter.
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Friends, boyfriends with Z, let's be real.
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Yeah.
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So I would go back to school where I was surrounded by all my white peers, and I would be like, You guys are so fucking boring, dude.
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Like, I am being out here.
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You don't even know.
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Are so boring.
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So then I something even more so.
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She was a cool kid.
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Like she was 100%.
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I mean, even now, I'm like me listening to you as at 12.
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I definitely was the rallier of like, you guys, I've got an idea.
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I was definitely Lucy.
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I was surrounded by like ethels who were like, I don't know.
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And I'm like, come on, let's go.
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You have one life.
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Like, let's do this.
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Fire force or fire tiger and a lot of parents told their children, don't hang out with Vanessa anymore.
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Like, I was giving everyone haircuts in junior high and high school.
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I was, I was the girl, like, let's experiment.
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What is life, you guys?
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Let's just try it.
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And then, you know, that's why I'm the disruptor I am today in the industry.
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I'm also obsessed with that you've kept that energy.
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Yeah.
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Because there are people who are like that and, you know, maybe get a little jaded, or because of circumstances or situations that have happened that lose that.
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Yeah.
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But it sounds like yours has amplified, which we're obsessed with.
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Yes, I will say because I surrounded myself with friends who were so loving.
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And also I'm an Aquarius.
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So like if somebody that's a lot of astrology for this episode.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's people listening who are like, I know her.
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Now that I know all this information, I know exactly what she's saying.
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I know she's exactly.
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I know her Bossi chart.
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Yeah.
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Um, so so I'm an Aquarius also.
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So if you mistreat me or if there's a betrayal, I can't unsee it.
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And you're done for the rest of my life.
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There's no breaking up and getting back together.
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There's no trying it out again.
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And that's a horrible thing for a lot of people.
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And for me, it's protected me because at home, I will say it was a difficult upbringing, and the household wasn't always as safe as I would wish it to be.
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And I found that love within my friends, and we're still friends to this day.
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Like my friends from junior high, and um they're like the godparents to my like three kids, and it's just been wonderful because of that.
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But I think that you can lose your way often in life, you know, and get get jaded.
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Like there's nothing when I see people going through those trials and it takes from them and their story, I fully understand and empathize with it.
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I was just, I think, lucky enough to find people who helped strengthen that in me for so long and were my rock.
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So they're the loves of my life, my bestie.
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The chosen family is really important.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Yeah.
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So okay, now that we know the context and how you grew up in your background, yeah.
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How did that shape how you saw beauty?
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Because obviously affected, you know, aesthetics.
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Like, you know, I want to talk about Eurocentric aesthetics that the world is revolved around, and then, you know, Asian aesthetics.
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How did that affect all of that?
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Yes.
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So I have always had a very bold outlook on life and beauty and fashion and just like the arts and just like living in general.
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So I have always found that I've been most attracted to these like subcultures because it's a way for me to just like connect with people who aren't mainstream.
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Like mainstream is like totally fine.
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Yeah.
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But I always find it more interesting.
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Like, what's the subreddit over here?
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What's what's happening on the street?
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Like we, I I grew up in Chino Hills, but I always partied in Pomona and was so thankful for my connections of like all the surrounding cities, of like my friends who exposed me to so many things that I would never ever know about.
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So I find that with beauty, growing up in junior high and high school, I was always a friend that was like getting everyone ready for dances.
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So always doing their makeup, always doing the hair.
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Like I'm like, girl, this is what you need to cover.
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God bless you, by the way, because I think everybody, yeah, yeah.
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You know, when you were getting ready for the dances, and the one friend, there's always the one that knows how to like curl hair and is like knows the trends for eyeshadow and has all the products.
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Yes.
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I would be like, you gotta play up the eyes a little bit more.
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Like I would always see things in people that I felt like they didn't see in themselves as a strength.
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And I always love to make my friends feel good and the people who were around me based off of like, let's make you shine, you know, like what can we do to play this up a little bit?
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Let's have fun.
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We all needed a Vanessa in our lives.
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Well, you guys, thank you.
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I love being that for people.
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So because I had always had that superpower of um allowing people to see how beautiful they were through just a little sprinkle here and there, I always remembered how that felt growing up.
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I've always been attracted to the arts, theater, music, um, writing, journalism, all of that.
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And being a Filipino-American only child growing up, my mom was like, That's nice, you're gonna be a nurse.
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And I was like, fantastic.
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That's exactly what I want to be.
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Yes, literally.
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Great.
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And I remember having this conversation with her in front of my aunts.
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I remember crying and being like, I don't want to do this, please.
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Like, don't you want me to be happy?
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Like, you guys came all this way.
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Like, what about joy?
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And she was like, I don't give a shit about joy.
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She was like, into Galog in our language.
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She was like, I don't care what your passions are.
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You're gonna be a nurse, you're gonna get a respectable income, something stable, and like do whatever you want on the side, but like this is what you're gonna do.
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And I'm paying for college, by the way.
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So this is it.
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And I was like, wow, okay.
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And so like, yeah.
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And there's, I think we've all heard and we know the stories of like the the pressures of living up to, you know, that kind of like underlying the sacrifice.
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Yeah, the sacrifice and the guilt that comes along with it, but also the honor and like you know, all of that.
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So it's complicated and also so beautiful at the same time.
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So I was like, all right, I'm gonna do this nursing thing, but also let's see what kind of facets of nursing really support my interests.
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Yeah.
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So I went on some forums that existed at the time.
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This was around 2004, 2005.
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Okay.
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And I saw that there was this very unpopular facet of nursing, which was minimally invasive or aesthetic nursing.
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Typically out of a wing of a plastic surgery office where the plastic surgeon did all of the major, you know, work on someone.
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And then there was a minimally invasive wing where injectables were done by the nurses.
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So that's essentially how the field really started taking off.
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And I was like, that is so weird and cool.
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And at the time, I was looking for jobs on Craigslist, you guys.
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Even my first nursing job like was from Craigslist.
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It was the craziest thing.
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Wait, after you completed your nursing degree?
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My first job.
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So I had two jobs simultaneously, but my first one was at a cosmetic dermatology office here in the valley, actually.
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And it was off of Craigslist, and it was a really strange, crazy office.
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TBH, it was kind of dangerous.
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And I was like, is this what it's like out here?
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Simultaneously, I was working at the ER at UCLA because my mom was like, You're not gonna do some her words were like, What beauty, beauty?
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You go like go in the hospital.
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Like, what are you doing?
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You're gonna call you like a nursing degree, don't save some money.
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So I was working in the ER, and at the same time, I was working at this laser place.
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Damn.
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And I was like, The range.
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I'm alright.
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The range.
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She's killing here.
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The range.
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Thank you so much.
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Like that appreciating looking back on it now, like during, I was like, am I a crazy person?
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Like, this does seem a little strange.
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Um, and duplicity.
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And so, first of all, the ERI only lasted six months.
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Shout out all of the ER workers out there.
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I can't.
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Not for me.
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Also, the pit, baby Jain Zhou.
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Baby Jane Dow.
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Baby Jain Zhou.
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Okay, I could never, six months was it for me.
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I was like, oh my God, I was such a burden to my co-workers emotionally and physically.
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I was like, um, is anyone worried about what just happened over here?
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Like, is there a social worker we can talk to about these feelings?
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I just feel like there's a lot we have to go through.
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They were like, shut the f up.
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There's this is not about us.
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There's a STEMI on the way.
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Like, come on.
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And I was like, I think we need to talk for a second.
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I think we need to, they were like, get her the fuck out of here.
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I felt it.
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I was like, this is not for me.
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This is not for me.
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I'm so sorry I wasted you guys' time.
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There was so much training that went into it.
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Wow.
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Anyways, and then I went into neurosurgery after that to still kind of like, you know, have my parents.
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The nice thing about neurosurgery as is like you're kind of just like standing there, you're doing your job when the surgeon needs you, all of that.
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That's also the horrible thing for me.
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I was like, I want to be interacting with people, you know, and you're there listening to the playlist that the neurosurgeon wants to listen to for 10 hours straight, and you know what he wants to talk about for 10 hours straight.
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And I was like, this is so patriarchy.
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This is not for me.
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Like, I gotta get out of here.
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And after about two to three years, I was like, I am flying at this weird, odd job that I have.
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Like, I really get to see my patients' results all the way through.
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I get to take care of them, I get to spend time with them.
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It's really wonderful.
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Let's get a little more serious about it.
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So then I went into dermatology.
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I went into like full plastic surgery and I learned all of the different facets of like what's in the skin, what's underneath the skin, what are the muscles that are causing all of these things.
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And I also was always attracted to the things that were unseen and not quite respected and studied here in the US.
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So my great-grandmother red palms, you know, it was like a superpower turns out, you know, during 2020.
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That is so cool.
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Jenna has questions.
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And also a lot of women in my family have the gift of like um premonition dreams.
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And there's like I've always been very attracted to that side of things too.
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So during 2020, I was like, okay, everything is closed.
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This might be it.
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Like, I don't know if I'm gonna have a practice anymore.
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We had just opened the practice, the things we do in 2018, and I was like, maybe this is the time to pivot.
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Maybe I become a palm reader.
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We'll see.
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Turns out there's no legitimate classes for palm reading.
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And so I was like, I was like, She looked into it, my friend.
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There was research.
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So let's look something else up.
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And I was looking into acupuncture, I was looking into, I've always loved my acupuncturist and the work that she does for me.
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And I was like researching it, I found Mian Sheng, which is face reading in Chinese medicine.
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And I was like, this is so fascinating.
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And Chinese face reading is basically a way for us to see different areas in the face according to the lines or markers or discolorations or just zones of the face and what organ system they're related to.
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And also each organ system is related to an emotion that we portray.
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So if you have underuse or overuse of an emotion, that's showing up in your face.
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And it's also alerting us to the balances and imbalances that we have within our health and organ systems.
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So I was like, there's science behind this, it's been studied for hundreds of years.
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There's an entire, you know, like an actual accreditation for me to take this and like a lineage of this work.
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And this is something that I can do.
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So I, you know, really combined everything that I learned in Western dermatology and also plastic surgery.
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I combined that with, you know, all of the knowledge from TCM that I took in for my professor, who I, our cohort was the last cohort before she passed away, unfortunately.
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So I was so grateful that I was able to, you know, take on this knowledge and really combine all of that to create facial balancing and put that in the industry.
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So it's just a better way for us to study ourselves and know our own features very well in order to make better decisions of what's best for us and our own beauty journeys versus trying to take the metrics of somebody else who looks completely different than us and seeing their success and thinking maybe that could be mine, and then we end up somewhere sticky.
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So that is all of that.
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Fascinating.
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So fascinating.
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Thank you.
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00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:08.960
I mean, just for you know, our listeners who don't or are new to this concept, like, can you give me just like a very Cliff Notes version of like when a client comes to see you?
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Yes.
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How does that work?
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Yes.
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Like one, two, three, the steps.
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Like you look at the fit.
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Yeah, go ahead.
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So as soon as someone comes in for a consultation, all of our providers at all of the locations, by the way, we're all trained to do the same thing.
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So we have a baseline consultation for someone and we have the same script, we ask the same questions.
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:31.680
And then from there, after gathering this data and these metrics, we can come up with your safest and best plan.
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:35.920
So it starts off with you sitting in the chair and I get to know you a little bit at like where did you come in from?
00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:36.559
Where did you grow up?
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:37.839
I think I already covered that.
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:38.960
It's part of the script, it's part of the screen.
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:41.680
And then I know, and then I know, okay, this is great.
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:44.079
Um, and then I ask you, what's your favorite feature?
00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:45.200
And I give you a mirror.
00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:50.880
And patients are usually really thrown off by that because typically what do you want to change or what do you want that's different?
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:51.920
Yes.
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:53.359
And your favorite.
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:54.880
So I ask, what's your favorite feature?
00:24:55.039 --> 00:25:06.000
And a lot of times what's so interesting to me is people are they meet me with tears with that question because it's a painful thing to reflect on that we don't go there first or we don't go there often.
00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:06.480
Yes.
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:11.599
So um I like to ask that question because one, it's a beautiful place to start.
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:18.000
But two, often what we want to change is not really what we want to augment.
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:19.359
It's it's we want it back.
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:28.480
Your favorite feature is starting to release from you in a way, and we're trying to just get back to a place where we could recognize ourselves in our best and happiest and healthiest forms.
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:39.920
So I start off with that question, and then um patients will usually have a little trouble and I'll say, Come on, tell me that thing that you really felt like I'm that girl because of my whatever it is, fill in the blank.
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:47.200
And they're they'll really shyly, most of the time, be like, Well, I've always liked my lips, or I've always liked, you know, my eyes.
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:53.440
And but things have started to change over time, and I feel like there's more shadows, or I feel like there's more droopiness here and there.
00:25:53.519 --> 00:26:02.000
And then we get to things that we, you know, have to educate on as far as like what's been changing anatomically for everyone within the age frame that they're in.
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:05.119
What's really interesting is men come in and I go, tell me your favorite feature.
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:07.599
And they're like, I kind of like everything, everything's really great.
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.440
Oh, that's very interesting.
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:11.440
Oh, what a way to move through the world.
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:11.839
Yes.
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:14.400
Which I believe that I hate for them.
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.680
It's more so like, I wish we could see ourselves in this light.
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:18.400
You know what I mean?
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:23.039
Like, imagine if you know most of your female clients, like you said, came in with that same confidence.
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:23.519
Yes.
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.279
And how much of it was the way you move through the world, like exactly.
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:34.240
So much of what we would do in aesthetics would be more about like skin health and preservation of face and the original face versus augment, augment, augment.
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:34.400
Yeah.
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.079
Which is where we went wrong in our industry.
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:44.240
So I, after the favorite, then I asked, if you in the past one to two years have noticed a change or a shift in the face, tell me what that shift has been.
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:45.759
So it's not what do you want to change?
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:47.039
What are you unhappy with?
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:52.559
We we stay away from that language and we're still getting to the meat and potatoes of what I need to know.
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:52.799
Yeah.
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:54.079
But where's that shift been?
00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:56.240
And a lot of times it's mid to lower face.
00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.160
Sometimes it's mid to lower face has not been brought up, and it's really about eyes.
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.079
So I start to look at that person's anatomy.
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.400
And then facial balancing starts to set in for me.
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:09.440
So I measure the thirds of their face and I look at their face from right side to left side.
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:13.200
In Chinese medicine, this is one of my favorite things when it comes to face reading.
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:20.960
Your right side is your maternal side and is the side that you most portrays the side that you, you know, show as your outward face to the world.
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:25.200
Your left side represents the face that you truly are in private.
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:30.880
And so people who have the most symmetry are able to live who they truly are authentically all the time in public.
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:41.680
So I find that a lot of my clients who work in your industry, okay, they have a lot of, you know, duality that they have to play according to their roles versus like who they really are.
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.039
And these some asymmetries pop up in the face, which are not a bad thing.
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:46.000
It just is what it is.
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:46.880
Wow.
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:47.920
So interesting.
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:49.680
Isn't that true?
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:50.880
I wish we had a mirror right now.
00:27:50.960 --> 00:28:05.200
You know, me and Jenna would both be like, I know it's amazing to hear like people who have that symmetry who can live that way naturally, or in an easier flow state of living that way.
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:05.680
Yes.
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:06.079
Wow.
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:06.319
Yeah.
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:17.920
So we'll look at asymmetries and then we'll take into account um with the different thirds of the face, I'll see what third is the strongest, what third is possibly the weakest that could possibly benefit from some kind of balancing.
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:24.400
So a lot of our um Asian clients, our Asian American clients, will have softer chins or jawline.
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:29.359
And the chin in um Chinese medicine is where your will lives.
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:38.559
So if you really sh have a strong will and conviction, a lot of times we're we're told since we're younger, you know, like really be respectful, like don't have too strong of an opinion, like that kind of stuff.
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.920
I know things are changing, but that's a story that's common for a lot of us.
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:53.119
And so when I see that a lot of Asian Americans want to project the chin a little bit more, I'm like, that's so interesting because we're coming into a place where we're like leading with ourselves now in independence and really growing into ourselves.
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:57.759
So I do a lot of, okay, let's talk about why we want to do certain things and also tell me.
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:05.599
So sometimes I'll have patients come in and they want to get rid of you know the clef in their chin, the almost dimple that you see in the chin.
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:07.920
And I'll ask them, Who do you get that from?
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.400
Is it mom or dad, grandma or grandpa?
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.079
And one of my patients said, My dad.
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:13.519
And I was like, Do we like dad?
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.759
And she was like, I love dad, like I love him.
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.960
And I'm and I'm I told her, Maybe we don't get rid of it then.
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:30.880
Maybe we just soften it slightly so that you're you're happy with it not being as as forceful or strong, but yes, as pronounced, but maybe we leave it because what a beautiful story to be linked to dad, right?
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.160
And she was like, I'm so glad you told me that.
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:35.680
I've never looked at it that way.
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:45.039
So it's it's the story of our lineage, also, it's the story of what makes your features more balanced, but it's all within the realm of what's appropriate for your features.
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:46.000
It's studying you.
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:57.039
So after we talk about, you know, asymmetries, thirds of the face, um, we talk about skin laxity and skin thickness, so the loss of velacity in the skin and also the thickness or thinness of the skin.
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:00.240
And we come up with a game plan of skin health first.
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.559
So if your skin is thinning, let's thicken the skin.
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:07.200
It doesn't make sense to do lips if we're not paying attention to the full surface of the skin.
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:09.359
Um, let's really focus on skin health.
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:13.279
And then from there we can look into what minimizes shadows a bit more in the face.
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:18.720
So if we look at people who, or if we look in animation, um shadow Ghibli.
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:32.000
If we look at animation and we see people who are like unwell or sickly or or um towards the end of their life and much older and more mature, we're looking at a lot of shadows and lines in the face, which is not a bad thing, but that's what it represents.
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:32.319
Okay.
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:41.200
So if you're in your 30s and 40s and you start to say as a patient, I just have these lines and shadows in the face that don't feel like who I am on the inside.
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.359
I feel energetic, I feel present, I feel all of these really great things.
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:53.839
And I just want that to match what I'm seeing on the outside, then we minimize those lines, and all of that is guided through that really intense consultation.
00:30:54.240 --> 00:31:01.599
So in my industry, we are taught to every hour see anywhere from like three to six patients.
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:03.119
And that's really hard.
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.920
So at the end of the day, you're seeing anywhere from like 20 to 40 patients in cosmetic dermatology.
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:08.799
How can you have a conversation?
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:10.160
Yeah, I mean there's no time.
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:10.880
There's no time.
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:11.920
There's no time.
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.359
So we really love slow medicine at the things we do.
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.240
We'll see anywhere from six to eight patients a day.
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:26.480
Sometimes on a really busy day, like award season or like reunion season around October, when everyone's like 10-year reunion, 20-year reunion.
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:28.079
Sometimes we'll take up to 10.
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:29.359
That's very important.
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:30.640
I've never really thought about that.
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:31.440
Yes, for sure.
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:33.039
J months are slow months.
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:39.839
January, June, July, because people are doing things like, you know, and coming back from vacation, and then there are seasons for things.
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.400
So um, when people are doing a lot, maybe we'll see up to 10 patients a day.
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:45.359
That's a lot for us.
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:52.559
68 patients so that I have an hour to 45 minutes to an hour with each person just to talk about things and then execute if we need to.
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:58.960
And then we have an ongoing plan for your beauty plan and your rejuvenation and skin health plan for how we're gonna do this in the future.
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:08.240
Some of it is devices and lasers, some of it is gonna be injectables with biostimulators, some of it might be an HA filler here and there, some of it might be a little neuromodulator.
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:09.599
We'll do what's right for you.
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:16.240
We like to say no to things because not everything is a good idea of what you're saving in your TikTok files.
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:16.480
Yes.
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.640
And but we'll say yes to the things that really do serve you and we'll guide you through that.
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.880
So that's how we really took off with the things you do.
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:24.240
So now we have five locations.
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:25.920
We just opened West Hollywood.
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:29.279
Thank you.
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:30.880
I'm located.
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:32.960
I'm sold already.
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:33.759
I'm coming.
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:37.759
I'm so resonating, I'm so resonating.
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:38.480
Okay, yeah.
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.039
But I will come amazing.
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:42.079
Amazing.
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:42.400
Yeah.
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.079
I'm going to Korean next month.
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:45.200
So great.
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:45.839
We'll talk.
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:46.319
We'll talk.
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:47.920
I mean, I'm ready for that.
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:48.400
Yeah.
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:54.559
Yes, I have seen, I mean, a lot of your content talking about when you go to Korean, and you have a lot of good tips on there already as well.
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:55.839
Oh my gosh.
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:56.480
Oh, I guess.
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.519
Well, I guess it is just a natural segue, not to make it about me.
00:32:59.599 --> 00:32:59.759
Yeah.
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:01.039
But I'm going to Korean.
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:08.880
But what have you seen in Asian medicine or when you've gone to Asia, the technology and so much more about preventative care, right?
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:11.279
Than in a Western philosophy of beauty.
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:15.599
What have you seen over there that's like excited you or something that you've taken into your practice here?
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.160
Yes, you said it, preventative is key.
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:22.960
So in the US, we started talking about preventative neuromodulators.
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:27.599
So preventative Botox, Desport Java, preventative, you know, uh biostimulators.
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:31.680
And there were a lot of people online, there was a lot of negative rhetoric.
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:41.839
And also in publications and respectable editorials about preventative aging is really just a gimmick to have you spend money earlier in life and don't buy into it.
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:48.640
So I did a mini fellowship out in Korea with um two plastic surgeons and a dermatologist also.
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:54.400
And I was learning these amazing techniques from them and also how they do the consultations and everything.
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.200
And I took one doctor aside and I was like, when do you guys do facelifts here?
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:00.400
Like typically for aging.
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.160
And he was like 60s, 70s.
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.960
And I'm like, Do you know in the US, like everyone's talking about doing 40s, like facelifts in the 40s right now?
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:16.559
And he was like, Yeah, you guys he basically broke it down to the point where he was saying, Listen, in the US, you guys did Botox and filler for the longest time.
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:18.559
Yeah, and then it's just facelifts for you.
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:25.760
We've been doing all of these preventative things like tightening, preservation of collagen through, you know, biostimulators.
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:26.639
They were ahead of the game.
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:31.599
When we got microneedling here in the US with PRP, they had already been doing it for close to 15 years.
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:33.199
We're just so behind.
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.119
The other thing is their innovation is completely different.
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:41.519
They don't have the same type of monetary restrictions with the FDA.
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:51.199
So our FDA, you can have the science, but if you don't have the budget of millions and tens of millions to push this through, you're probably not gonna move forward with it or get it approved.
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.239
Where in Korea, innovation and science really win.
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.800
So you could have a much smaller budget.
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:01.360
But as long as the science is sciencing, this is this technology is gonna come through.
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:01.760
Wow.
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:12.079
The other thing is like there's so much preservation with skin health in Korea based off of metrics, like true metrics, you know, all of the facial analysis tools that they have.
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:22.000
So you're going off of um the percentage of wrinkles that you have in um comparison to the demographic of women your age that have done the same testing.
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:26.320
You're going into information of how much sun damage do you have at the surface?
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:35.119
Versus the next slide of info they're gonna show you is here's the sumage that sun damage that you have that is going to show up in the next five to ten years that you don't see yet.
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:36.559
Like into the future.
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:37.360
Into the future.
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:39.679
They're into the future.
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:41.280
They literally are into the future.
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.719
So that's just not the US yet, you know.
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:52.639
So I'm I'm along with a few other providers, we're really trying to change that here in the US because we just go off of what do you want today?
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:53.360
Yeah.
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:55.119
You know, of this feels right.
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:56.800
This is the new thing for today.
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:04.559
Instead of here are the metrics that we have based off of your specific anatomy and facial topography, and here's what we can do according to that.
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:06.159
And that's what Korea does very well.
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:06.960
Yeah.
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:10.800
Jenna's coming with my family.
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:11.440
Taking a dream.
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:13.920
Were you going just for fun?
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:23.679
Yeah, I'm going with my family, but also it was because I really wanted to explore some of these um, you know, clinics and you know, just just to see like what they're doing over there.
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.920
I've never been, actually, but have done a lot of research and also have had so many friends.
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.079
You guys should do a photo shoot, the family.
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:31.360
It's the most fun thing out there.
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:32.239
Gosh, I know.
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:33.280
I've seen those photo shoots.
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.320
Well, they're so funny and my nephew and niece are coming.
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:37.679
They're very, very little.
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:38.480
Very little.
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:39.679
Put them in some humbooks.
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:40.400
You must.
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:42.000
My my sister-in-law is Korean.
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:42.239
Yeah.
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:44.960
So it would be maybe we'll put it on the list.
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:45.519
Let's do it.
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:52.000
I'm gonna come back, we're gonna put it on the screen, we're all gonna go through the entire shoot and talk about what you love about every photo.
00:36:53.119 --> 00:37:02.079
There's a photographer that I love out there who does these like K-pop photo shoots where you go in and you choose your background and you choose your setting of like, do you wanna be a soft K-pop?
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:03.440
Do you wanna be an edgy K-pop?
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:04.239
Like, what do you want to be?
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:10.159
So you can put on the clothes or you can wear your own, and then you have your hair and makeup done by like his partners and stuff like that.
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.559
And then you go and and he actually poses you exactly how you're supposed to.
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.519
So I used I Wait, did you do this with your family?
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:19.519
I I did it solo, baby.
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.719
Just give it a baby up.
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:28.320
You can find something.
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:32.079
Thank you.
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:33.920
Came back with like eight different poses.
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.320
Like he was, I was like, Can we do any of them or do you soft?
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:37.280
All of them.
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:38.400
It was all of them.
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:40.000
That's again range, baby.
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:41.280
Yeah, range, range.
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.199
There's that's what we keep coming back to you.
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.519
If if there's something about me, you're gonna get all of it.
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.360
So I'm gonna need to see these things.
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:49.119
I'm gonna send them to you.
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.440
That might be the thumbnail of everything that we're gonna present.
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:52.880
I think so.
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:55.840
Yes, it's a staring off into the distance from the.
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.400
Yeah, sometimes it was a lot.
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.960
It's a lot of handwork.
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.920
Yeah, it's exactly because fingers can be weird.
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:04.639
Yeah, it didn't work.
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.519
You don't realize how weird like an awkward hand can be.
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.440
But it was so elegant when he when he showed me, he was going to go like this.
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:13.360
And I was like, I hate that.
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:14.239
And then I did it.
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.840
And he shows me a photo, and I'm like, whoa, you are an artist.
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:18.960
What do I know, Octobi?
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:20.239
It's Octobi.
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:22.559
Oh my God, we must find you.
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:25.119
I'm kind of obsessed.
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:29.599
Okay, well, speaking of family, you had mentioned earlier you have three beautiful children.
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:32.800
How has motherhood been?
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:34.480
And also, uh, you have a daughter.
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:35.440
I do, yeah.
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:36.159
She's my middle.
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.880
So I have my oldest is 13, Kenny.
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:39.920
He's turning 14 soon.
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:46.800
And then I have because her face is incredibly balanced, we would never know how old she is.
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:53.199
Okay, I had him when I was 26, which you guys, that's like normal mind for me.
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:57.760
I know that used to be very normal, but it is just wild to think about it now.
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.159
For me, so in LA terms.
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:02.000
Yes, you're so right, and I fully agree.
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:08.079
So when I told my best friend, we were full deep in our like living in K-town.
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:09.360
I used to live in K Town.
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:10.559
So living in K-town.
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:11.920
You were a partying.
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:13.119
Partying.
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.639
Yes, every it started from Wednesday.
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:20.000
We skipped, we skipped Saturday, because I was like, that's lame.
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:21.119
Everyone else party Saturday.
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:22.000
We do it on the weekdays.
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:22.719
You know what I mean?
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:24.800
And but for the most part, we were out.
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.079
So when I told her I was expecting my fur, she was like crying tears of sadness.
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:30.559
Right.
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:31.280
What will I do?
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:32.239
Where's my partner?
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:33.679
I was like, what's wrong, Jeannie?
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.360
And she was like, You're not gonna come out anymore.
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.599
And I was like, Well, yeah, bitch.
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:41.039
I'm gonna have a kid.
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:42.880
I was like, I don't know what to tell you.
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:44.480
She was like, You ruined everything.
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:50.960
It was kind of like the whole moment, but she was fully right because we were, I mean, that was my bestie that went to Diamond Bar High.
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.559
Like, we've been for so long.
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.000
And she was like, You ruined it.
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:55.039
Like you're a teen mom.
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:56.239
Why did you do this to us?
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:56.719
You know?
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.599
And then I had Penelope three years later.
00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:01.519
And then she's like, you just won't stop.
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:01.760
I know.
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.000
Why do you keep doing this?
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:05.599
What are you doing to yourself?
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.599
And then we were like, okay, that's great.
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:09.360
My husband and I were like, this is amazing.
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:10.320
We have a girl and boy.
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:10.639
Yeah.
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.400
We're both like, you know, like sweet little bundles of joy.
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.559
My sweet little dumplings are awesome.
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.760
By the way, my first one looks fully Filipino.
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.440
Kenny Boy, we call him Kenny Boy.
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:22.880
He's Kenny Jr.
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:24.559
Looks fully Filipino.
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:29.280
And then my second one, so my girl Penelope, looks half Filipino and half Chinese.
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:30.400
My husband's full Chinese.
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:30.800
Okay.
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:33.440
My third one, Joaquin, who was also a surprise.
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:34.719
He's three years old.
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:36.079
Pleasant surprise.
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:37.920
Third one is fully Chinese.
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:48.000
And I told my husband, I was like, look at how my body, as I grew to love you more and more over time, my body allowed more of your DNA to infiltrate my genetics.
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:48.400
Look at this.
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:50.239
We started off Filipino.
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:51.679
We're fully Chinese now with these children.
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:56.079
They all look like they're not related.
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:58.480
They're like fully their own person and own genetics.
00:40:58.639 --> 00:40:59.440
It's so funny.
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:00.159
I am crying.
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:00.719
Thank you.
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:03.840
We have three, three little crazy kids.
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:05.119
They're so awesome.
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:05.519
Yeah.
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.199
And I'm not a maternal person.
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:08.480
I never wanted kids growing up.
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.199
That was never part of my MO.
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:13.599
I was like, I'm gonna do fun things all around the world.
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:14.559
Yeah, with Jeannie.
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:14.960
Hello.
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:22.000
She's like we're obviously gonna be, I don't know, fishing in Alaska one moment, and then we're gonna be clubbing in Vegas at the next.
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:22.400
Of course.
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.960
And then Myos got pregnant as a teen at 26.
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:26.000
So Teen mom.
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:26.719
Teen mom.
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:28.239
Yeah, wonderful.
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:28.960
Wonderful.
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:35.199
I love motherhood to me has, I feel like I'm already an emotional person.
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:40.800
Like I hate all the posts about empaths because they're so true and so I fucking hate that I'm that person.
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:42.960
Um such a bleeding heart.
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:51.840
But after having children, it really allows me to connect with people even more so and make decisions based off of a place of love.
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:59.760
Like whether it's for me or for other people, I really try to imagine this is someone's baby or you know, like this is someone's like a mama.
00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:03.280
This is there has to be more, like, let's look at things with more nuance.
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:03.519
Yeah.
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:11.519
When I hear the kids' stories, like coming home from school, Penelope came home with a bracelet that I'd never seen before, and it was like some janky weird beaded bracelet.
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:12.639
And I was like, Oh, where'd you get that?
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:13.760
Did you make something at school?
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:18.239
And she was like, No, Ethan gave this to me um to be his backup girlfriend.
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:20.400
And I was like, excuse me.
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:21.360
Ethan fired up.
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:23.519
You are counting today.
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:24.159
Excuse me.
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:28.239
And I was like, Jenna, mama bear over here just got fired up.
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:30.719
I'm sorry.
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.400
What do you mean backup girlfriend?
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:33.599
And she's like, I don't know.
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:34.639
I just wanted the bracelet.
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.920
And I was like, you will give him this bracelet back tomorrow.
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:39.440
And she was like, why?
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:40.159
I like it.
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.719
And I was like, because the meaning is.
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:47.840
And then I go into like this deep chat with her, and she's like, it's not that serious, mom, you know?
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:49.440
Like, it's just a bracelet.
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:51.360
Like, I don't care whose girlfriend or whatever.
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:55.039
Like, he doesn't claim me, was like the energy she was trying to portray to me, you know.
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:56.559
And I was like, no, we're giving this back.
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:57.679
So nobody's back.
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:12.320
This brings me so so much joy and so much storytelling comes back into like the relationships and bonding with the kids that it just makes me so much better of a friend and a provider, a medical provider, all of those things.
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:14.400
So I'm really grateful for this entire journey.
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.199
I love it.
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.239
I mean, Jenna is dying.
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:19.119
Jenna is dying.
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:20.880
She's like, We're giving back the bracelet.
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:21.519
I don't care.
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.119
She's like, it's not that big of a deal.
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:25.280
Calm it down.
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.320
So when it happened, she was eight and she's 10 now.
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:28.719
Okay.
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:30.559
But um Did she give back the bracelet?
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:31.360
She gave it back.
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.039
But she also saw me as the enemy and the man.
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.480
Like she saw me as like bureaucracy for an entire month.
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:40.800
She was like, Why would you do that to me?
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:42.880
I don't care what he thinks.
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:44.960
She's like my mother is five, too.
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:45.280
Yeah.
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.199
But she gave it back, so she heard you.
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:47.760
She did.
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:48.880
Do you know what I mean?
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:53.679
And even if they don't, you don't think they're listening, yes, they'll surprise you.
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:54.400
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:55.119
You know?
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:55.679
Yeah.
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:57.519
I mean, it's it's true.
00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:58.400
It's it's true.
00:43:58.639 --> 00:43:59.760
I'm just thinking about when she grows.
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.360
She's gonna probably reh like talk about the story when she's on a podcast.
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:03.920
She does.
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:15.199
She's gonna be like, so this one time, I mean, when I was eight, my mom and she was she thought she was teaching me a moment, and I'm like, just here for the bracelet vibes.
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:16.000
Like, what's the big deal?
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:17.679
Yeah, the bees calming down.
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:18.239
Yeah.
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:22.000
I'm like, this is a lesson in patriarchy.
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:23.039
You've got to give it back.
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:24.800
And she's like, whatever, dude.
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:25.920
Chill.
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:27.119
Oh my gosh.
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.159
Oh, well, I loved everything about that.
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:31.840
Thank you for sharing about your personal life.
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:38.320
Um, I did have one more question in this personal life section that I'm just genuinely curious about.
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:38.639
Yes.
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:46.000
Because obviously you've worked with the Kardashians and several other large, you know, well-known celebrities and such.
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:51.599
Like I'm curious, in your experience with working with them, what are they most excited about?
00:44:51.840 --> 00:45:01.199
Considering that, you know, they're such public figures and you know, everything they do is like analyzed under such a crazy magnifying glass in the beauty and wellness space.
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.480
Is there something that you feel like they're excited about?
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:06.320
These clients, these high-profile clients?
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:06.800
Yes.
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.840
I think when it comes down, first of all, let me say this.
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:11.039
I'm from the 909.
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:11.840
We covered that earlier.
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:12.239
Yes.
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:14.880
909 baby cow dung and not cool stuff.
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:20.079
Like the day that we got like an in and out, we were like, ah, like losing our minds.
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:20.800
We made it.
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.079
Yeah, honestly, because before that, at 11 p.m.
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:33.760
with nothing to do, I would hang out with my friends at the Walmart and go pick up a goldfish and then maybe grab an ice block and ice block down a grassy hill.
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:35.519
Like that was the fun that we were having.
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:36.320
That's a vibe.
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:40.239
So when we're like talking about these clients now, I'm like, oh my God, this is so funny.
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.920
Isn't that crazy to think back in your like little you little you?
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.360
If you told little you what you would be doing, she would be like, duh.
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:48.639
Yeah, that's kind of like a little bit of a little bit of a shot.
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:49.519
She would be sure duh.
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:51.440
Can you believe it?
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:52.559
And she would be like, yeah, duh.
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:53.599
Yeah, like you know what I mean?
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:54.480
Oh, I know.
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.360
Like your innocent self is like, yeah, we always knew.
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.000
And your adult self is like, oh my God, I'm so happy to be here.
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:00.320
Yeah.
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:01.519
Like, who would have thought?
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:03.360
And little you's like, yeah, us.
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:05.679
Yeah, thought you would get there sooner.
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:06.400
Like, hello?
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:06.800
Totally.
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:07.280
Yeah.
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:17.119
So I think at the end of the day, every celebrity patient or high profile client that I've ever worked with, when it comes to beauty, is really just like us.
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:20.159
We all just want to be tight and lifted for as long as possible.
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:20.880
You know what I mean?
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.000
Like most patients don't want to look like different people.
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:25.440
You want to look like yourself.
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:30.719
When you start looking like a different people, I think people in the public eye really realize, oh shit, this is not serving me.
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:36.079
Not only am I not getting backlash from everyone, but I also don't even feel comfortable in my own skin.
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.159
Like, why did I get to this point?
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:38.480
Right.
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:51.360
So this is not me talking about them specifically, but people in the industry in general, I think in the public eye, it always serves them to look like themselves, but maybe as like preserved as possible.
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:54.480
So when I say preserved, I'm talking about the wear and tear of life.
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:59.679
So going back to face reading, the emotions that you most portray show up in the face.
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:04.639
And so in face reading, we say from one to the age of 25, that's the face that your mother gave you.
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.119
From 25 and on, that's the face that you deserve.
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:08.559
That's the face that you earned.
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:09.519
Oh, that was.
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:11.039
Thank you.
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:16.159
Jenna has been making so many, like I can feel her energy through this.
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:17.280
I am engaged.
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:18.320
I am in it.
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:19.039
I am committed.
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:19.920
I am dedicated.
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.760
You have been sprouting so much truth about that.
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:29.679
I'm also like trying not to like say a lot because like you have so much w wisdom and and so many things to share.
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.000
So I'm trying not to like interject other words.
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:32.719
But I'm so happy.
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:34.639
Yes, yes.
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:36.480
All of this is so fascinating, right?
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.400
As a student, when I'm learning this, I'm like, oh my God, so many light bulbs are going off.
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:40.960
Crazy.
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:53.280
So when you start to look like the worry and the stress that you've been dealing with for the past 10 to 15 years straight, this is any patient, you're just done with looking and feeling that way.
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:53.679
You know?
00:47:53.760 --> 00:48:01.679
So once you start to get in a really great place, the 10 to 15 years of worry and fear and you know, doubting yourself shows up.
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.599
And how do we kind of get you back to a place where now you're feeling like how you feel?
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.280
Now you're looking like how you feel on the inside.
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:08.800
So that's what I mean by preservation.
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:10.000
I don't mean anti-aging.
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:11.840
There's nothing wrong with aging whatsoever.
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:12.239
Yeah.
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.039
It's more so looking tired and angry when you're not that.
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:15.840
Yeah.
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:16.880
Yeah.
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:17.840
So to the out.
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:25.440
We want to, I think everyone wants to look happy, healthy, rested, and surely if you're on camera all the time, as tight and lifted as possible.
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:25.760
Yeah.
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:26.159
Yeah.
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:27.280
Don't blame them.
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:28.079
Don't blame them.
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:28.719
Absolutely.
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:29.679
We'll see you soon.
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:32.639
She's she's coming.
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:34.320
Book the appointment.
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:35.199
It's great.
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:35.760
Okay.
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.039
Cara, can we talk about the new AGC collection?
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.440
I am freaking out.
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:43.199
Look at this new color.
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:44.880
The matcha collection.
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:48.159
This gingham short with this quarter zip.
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.159
I mean, I'm going to be living in this.
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:51.519
This is so cute.
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.320
It is giving cottage courts, giving tennis vibes.
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:57.119
It's everything I love, cozy and chic.
00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:57.599
Ugh.
00:48:57.760 --> 00:48:58.880
It looks so good on you.
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:04.000
And I'm so obsessed with the fact that it is dropping just in time for Heritage Month.
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:12.719
I mean, this month is so special to us because it is for us to celebrate our culture, our stories, and our community with all of you.
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.519
And that's also what makes wearing AGC so special.
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.119
Yes, and we love seeing all of you wear it out there.
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:20.559
So please tag us.
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:21.840
We get such a kick out of it.
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:22.800
Please tag us.
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:26.000
And also, there's nothing better than seeing AGC out in the wild.
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I was getting coffee the other day, and the girl in front of me, like waiting in line to order her coffee, had the AGC hat on.
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And you can see the brand on the back, and it just made me really happy.
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It made me really happy.
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So, so cute.
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And the I'm from here shirt.
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I love this.
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This is like A G C to its core.
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This is the core, and also revealing a cozy kitty.
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Okay.
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If I could be embodied into a form right now, it would be this cozy kitty because this sweatshirt that I have on is also very cozy.
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C-O-Z-Y, cozy.
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Here for it.
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So if you are as obsessed with this matcha line like me and Jenna are, this line is available exclusively at Asian American GirlClub.com.
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So we're gonna move on to some hotline questions.
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We had people write in knowing you were the guest and had some questions for you.
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That's awesome.
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All right, first one.
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What's something people would be surprised to know about you?
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Maybe there's a couple of things.
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Okay.
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I love to metal detect.
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I'm a prospector.
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Do you remember I told you I love a subculture?
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Okay.
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So there are so many the peanut galleries over here.
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Questions.
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Please expand.
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Yeah, so I I am, and I hope that you guys don't blow this up out there, but I do think if it is speaking to you and you're feeling a little tingle right now, it's probably worth looking into.
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But I'm a part of a group of prospectors on a subreddit, and we are all metal detector fans, and we go out and metal detect and then put all of our findings together on display.
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Um, once a month is what a lot of them do.
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That's too often for me.
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I'll usually do it like once a quarter.
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But this is so fun.
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It is so fun.
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Also, people are in like when you go out where?
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Like to the beach?
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To the palace?
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I'm metal detecting on my own at the beach.
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I love the beach.
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I love Laguna.
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There's so many treasures in Malibu.
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But even when I go to Hawaii, I'm always bringing my metal detector.
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How large is a metal detector?
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Does it fit on a carrier?
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It's fairly large.
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So if we're not.
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It's got a check-in.
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It's a check-in situation.
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It's a check-in.
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It's what we imagine.
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Is it like what you see?
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Yes.
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Technology has not made the problem.
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There are smaller ones, but they're not as powerful.
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So you can like short them also, but but you know, it's still a large, it's a significant amount of luggage, you know, that I'm bringing on because of Hawaii.
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Because of its shape.
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To Hawaii, to anywhere, really.
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You can put your metal detect anywhere.
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I've also like seen the best stories online of like the metal detector who found the wife's like engagement ring from like 10 years.
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And I'm like, well, I was gonna say my dream.
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What's your best find?
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What has been your best find?
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Um the really sad thing is I mainly find rusty nails and like shards of metal and stuff like that.
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I mean that makes sense.
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And I will be searching for hours and hours.
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The second I hand it off to my husband within minutes, a ring, a bracelet, a necklace, a dog tag.
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So and it's because and that's like gambling, right?
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Like if you're too horny for it, if you're too thirsty.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Gambling gods are like, this is not for you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If you're like, I'm just, I'm just here to have a good time.
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Bingo, win-win-win.
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And so that's my husband and I.
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So I've tried to change my energy over time.
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I can't suppress how excited I am to find treasure.
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So I think the luck just doesn't come to me with that.
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I think treasures.
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I'm crying.
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My daughter brings some treasures from like her sandbox and like they're in her pockets.
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They're like pieces of glitter, but like it's such a nostalgic thing to me now.
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It brings me so much joy when people are like, I found treasure.
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Like that will always be very special to me.
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You shape metal detect.
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You're searching for treasure still at that age.
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Like that keeps the joy for me that I'm I think I'm gonna take up it is so fun for the kids.
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Okay, I understand.
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I highly recommend the CTX 3030.
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It is the best.
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We'll talk.
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Okay.
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We'll talk about it.
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Um, but the kids love it.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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Okay, yeah.
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We're gonna talk about lasers uh in Korea, and you guys are gonna talk about C T X cottage.
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Okay.
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Question number two.
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What's something you're really proud of that people don't see?
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It could also be prospecting.
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And that's probably number two.
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Okay.
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Number one is my relationship with my husband.
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Um I get choked up every time I start thinking about this fucking man.
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I just didn't know you could love someone so much.
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Because boys have always been like a girl power, whatever boys.
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You know what I mean?
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Like my whole life has been like, get out of my way.
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What was your screen name again?
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L-A-D-X-P-9 for you.
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I'm saying L A D.
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You were always L A D.
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You're like my Asian desire.
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You're whatever.
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Yes, yes.
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I know you want me.
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Yes.
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Like, get in line.
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We're here to have a good time.
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Me and my lady crew, lady.
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Jeannie.
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Okay, Jeannie.
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Jeannie.
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Um, so I I think what I've been able to accomplish within business.
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Um, I and then also simultaneously, like growing our family and having these amazing kids.
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I never, I don't think you can have it all as a woman in the same time.
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I think that there's seasons for things, and I think that people figure that out.
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Yeah.
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But every season has been so enjoyable because of this sweet man, Kenny Lee.
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I love him so much.
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And he's just like such a respectable person and is such a provider and is such a caring and soft person as well.
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Like he is the right amount of everything for me.
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I'm just so proud of the person who chose me, and I chose him, and we just made this life together.
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And I think that I I very rarely post him because he's so sacred to me.
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And also, don't be looking at my man.
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Yeah.
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And um also, like, I just that to me is like if I did one thing right in life, it's choosing this life with that man.
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He's a good, good person.
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Oh, that's so nice.
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I love that so much.
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Yeah, he's he's amazing.
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Don't be looking at MMA.
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Yeah.
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Also, like everybody go look, but don't look.
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Okay.
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He's amazing.
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Not amazing for you.
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Like, just for me.
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He's mine.
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I love that.
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So that is so marriage is pure of a person.
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Marriage is hard, and having kids with um a man is hard.
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Totally.
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And having kids, period, is hard.
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But I you know, to the the language that you use, you choose each other every day because that's truly what it is, right?
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You you choose to choose each other.
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Yeah.
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And even when it gets really hard.
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So that's really beautiful.
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Even when it gets really hard, and even when it gets really silly and stupid, like that whole that whole gamut of everything.
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So my my new thing of being annoying to him is like, if I was a worm, would you love me?
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You know, we've seen this.
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Oh my gosh, yes, I have.
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:06.960
I have seen a worm, would you love me?
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So my take on that is if I if I was a mmung bean, would you would you recognize me?
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Would you love me?
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And he his answer is babe, of course.
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I would find you amongst all the mung beans.
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I would find you and I would know that it was you.
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And first of all, he could be fucking bullshitting me.
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It doesn't matter.
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He's gonna find my mung bean.
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But that is really emotional.
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No, but that's so sexual.
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He's gonna find my mung bean.
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He was like, I will find you among all the monsoon before.
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He's gonna find that is so different.
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He's gonna find me as a mung bean, and like that's great.
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:40.719
And he was like, Yeah, I'll find you as a worm, I'll find you.
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:42.559
I asked my guy friends this also.
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Yeah.
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Like the guy friends I grew up with, and they're like, What the fuck is that?
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:47.519
Yeah, like what the fuck did you just ask?
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And I was like, if you know, if your wife was a worm, would you would you would you love her still?
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:58.400
And my guy friend goes, What am I gonna what am I gonna fuck a worm?
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:00.079
Like that makes no sense, Vanessa.
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.880
And I'm like, oh my God, you don't get it.
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:05.440
You don't get it, and you're not whimsy enough.
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:06.800
And that's why you're my friend.
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:08.480
Yeah, and that's why Kenny's my husband.
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:08.960
Yeah.
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:14.000
So it's just, it's just that's what I'm most proud of that people probably don't see a lot.
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I love that, Vanessa.
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Wait, also the fact that I said he found my mung bean, that was actually so sexual.
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:21.599
I don't know if you really did hear, and you kept saying it, but I didn't want to point it out.
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:22.800
And but we're here for it.
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:24.079
I actually didn't even catch that.
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I was like, oh, that's so sweet.
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:26.960
Janet, so sweet is the romance.
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She's really romance again.
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I'm over here like she said it again.
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Thank you.
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I mean, that's really beautiful.
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:37.679
Thank you for sharing that.
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:38.079
Yes.
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Um thank you.
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.519
Really great way to end the episode.
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Thank you so much for joining us.
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Thank you so much.
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You guys are so much fun.
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I really appreciate it, and I love this platform.
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I listen, I'm a fan.
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Thank you again.
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Oh, thanks.
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Edited by Jacob Ho.
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Intro music by Gloria Kim.
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Thanks for listening.