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A billionaire CEO calls herself a “three-hour max mom” and the internet spirals.
Morgan and Caryn use the conversation to explore the old scripts people inherit around family, ambition, rest, productivity, marriage, and identity and why so many of us feel trapped performing lives we didn’t consciously choose.
What starts as a conversation about parenting quickly becomes something bigger: the pressure to optimize ourselves, the fear of “doing life wrong,” and how hard it can be to separate what we actually want from what we’ve been taught we should want.
Along the way, they get into trad wives, avocado toast propaganda, emotional capacity, group chat icks, and the ongoing process of learning how to build a life that feels true instead of just socially approved.
