SECRET SPACE PROGRAMS, ET HYBRIDS & THE VRIL MYSTERY - MARINA SEREN - TSP # 2878

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Episode of the Typical Skeptic Podcast. I'm really excited about
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my guest today. I have with me the amazing Marina Saron.
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If you guys don't know, I've been interviewing Marina for
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a while. Well, it was with a lot of my guests.
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I bet there are a lot of my guests or
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multiple of my guests. Marina's been coming on for three years,
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and I wrote tonight on the Typical Sceptre podcast, we're
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welcoming back international speaker, psychic medium, ET experiencer, and returning
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fan favorite Marina Saron joining us from Madrid, Spain. Marina
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describes an extraordinary journey involving alleged extraterrestrial contact, secret space programs,
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psychic super soldier training, my lab experiences, MKUltra programming, ancient civilizations,
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and the mysteries of human consciousness. According to Marina, her
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spiritual awakening began in 2016 when she started recovering memories
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of what she believes were past lives, extraterrestrial encounters and
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experiences involving classified programs. And tonight, uh, she sent me the, uh, the, uh,
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what she's going to be covering. Let me see. I
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found it here. Um, Oh, I have it. Oh, I
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don't know where the message is. Anyway, she's going to
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be breaking down something really interesting. Tonight we're going deep
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in some of the fascinating controversial subjects and, uh, Yeah,
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she's going to expose a lot of stuff tonight, so
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I'm bringing her to the stage now. Yeah, Marina, thanks
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so much for coming back on. How are you?
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Hey, Robert. Thank you so much for having me back
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on your show. It's always a pleasure to be here. Absolutely.
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And I'm ready to share as much as you want
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me to share, obviously.
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Yeah. When we talked over text, you said you wanted
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to expose a group, a lion group? I never heard
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of that before.
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Yes, the lion group, which is... A common misconception that
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people think that when I mentioned the lion, they always
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immediately imagine felines, right? Or feline-related, lion-related peoples or beings. No.
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The lion, the group, the emblem, it's just that. It's
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an emblem. It's like in the Harry Potter movies where,
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you know, each house will have one animal, that kind
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of representation. But they are humanoid in nature. They're not felines,
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you know?
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Yeah.
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What is their purpose? Who are they affiliated with? Would
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they be like a faction of the Anunnaki or something?
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Yes, they are a faction of Anunnaki groups. They're one
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of the branches of the evolutionary lines of the Anunnaki.
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And specifically, their genetic mixture is that of Sirius and
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certain Lyran mixture with Elohim Anunnaki DNA. So they are
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the groups of the Sirius Elohim groups. which, you know,
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there's a lot of misconceptions again. But specifically, again, this group,
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it's made of those specific combinations of genetics, very strong
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Syrian and Elohim DNA genetics.
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What is their mission or what is their goal or
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what do you think they're trying to achieve?
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Okay, so I am being right now, since some months
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and already years ago, harassed extremely and attacked by this group.
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because they are part of the co-creation of the so-called
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mental experimentation, secret space programs, disclosure programs, etc. And they
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have been connected to certain groups of humanity ever since
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like some thousands of years ago, since they started and
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came in to give their own genetic material. And right now.
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I am exposing all the downloads of information, not just
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of the experiences that I had directly with this group,
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but all the information that I had directly on who
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are these people? What is this group about? What is
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the story on earth? And what are the things that
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they are performing right now against humans or towards humans?
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And what is their agenda? Their agenda is their great
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hybridization timelines. And there is a lot of... there's a
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lot to say about that, that it's very inclined to
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two things. We have to focalize on the etymology on
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the races of hybrids that are being created in order
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to create that timeline for humans where we supposedly have
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to meet them and hybridize with them. And we will
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see a very, very simple pattern there. We can go
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on this in a very specific matter. If you ask
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me about it, we can break it down, you know,
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into pieces and, and share what I want to disclose
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about that. And eventually, again, that's our goal, the Great
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Hybridization Timeline for Humanity. But in general, they have been
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here for a long time, even before the Great Hybridization Plan,
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to try to take over the grid of Earth and
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to create as much genetic infusions to the Earth, to
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the grid and morphogenic field of Earth with their own genetics,
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with their own group, trying to drive humans to their
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own means and to their own purposes, who are actually
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very anti-human. Even if they present themselves as very human oriented,
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they are extremely anti-human. They are also communists. They believe
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in communism. They want anything else but mammal DNA. That's
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why they like to represent themselves with that emblem of
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the lion people, the lions. because they want to, they
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prefer demonizing any other aspects of genetics that are not
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mammal or a humanoid. So they have a lot of conflict,
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for that matter, with other sickle-spaced brown groups and other
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Anunnaki lineages and mixtures that obviously, like anybody, has a
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lot of these reptilian and draconian genetics that are not negative, obviously,
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nature are highly positive. And I can also break down very,
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in a much more specific way, their involvement in the
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story of Atlantis and why they are the responsibles for
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that fall of Atlantis.
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Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. And you said they're affiliated with
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the Draco, the Draco Reptilians?
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No, they're not affiliated, all the other side. They are
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against that group. but in a way that it's way
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too much of an extreme. They want nothing else but
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just mammal DNA, and not just for them, but for humans, because,
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you know, they are racist, you know, even they don't
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want to admit it. They decided to remove that serpent
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DNA from themselves, and just because they did that, they're
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no better, they're no good. These are extremely violent groups
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that want so bad to present themselves as positive or neutral,
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But in reality, behind the scenes, they are extremely agenda-based,
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extremely violent, and extremely capable of great horrors and great crimes.
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In fact, they are involved right away and directly in
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the use and the participation of the MKILTRA programs in
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the space program. Wow.
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Wow. So what do you think they're trying to do?
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So they're in like a probably open battle with the
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Draco Reptilians, right? Are they also planning agendas against humanity
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as well? Is that who would be doing a lot
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of the targeting, do you think?
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It's not against humanity. Their goal is to take humans
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onto their side, but there are ways and means to
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do it. It's highly aggressive, highly violent, highly agenda-based. It's
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trying to pose as if they were nice people, as
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if they were positive-oriented groups, but only.
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The real side of this, the truth aspect of this,
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is that it's just a presentation. There are horrible crimes
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that they are part of. Again, the use of these
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end-kill technologies, the use of rituals, like satanic ritual abuse,
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their co-creation even with darker elite groups, and they're highly manipulative.
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They're extremely highly manipulative. Even as to right now, they
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are connecting to me energetically and they are trying to,
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in my own voice, you know, they're trying to embed
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their energy with an image, with a kind of like
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sugar-coated image of themselves, showing that they are supposedly oriented
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towards peace and they only care about the world, et cetera,
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because that's one of the aspects that many of the
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beings are being disclosed or formed. when there is somebody
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that is speaking out, what you say physically or what
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you are saying verbally, it's just 20% of the information,
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let's say. What you are expressing energetically from the subtle
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bodies is a majority on the percentage of the energy
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that is being transmitted. So this is a technique that
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every group utilizes in order to try to embed energies
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and frequencies and information that is transgressed or manipulated so
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that when beings listen to me when other humans listen
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to me they get uh verbally what i'm saying they
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get in a very rationalistic way um an objective way
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what i'm saying but they are getting information and energies
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that i are embedded there by mk ultra technologies that
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are misleading because they are purposefully trying not to be
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seen not to be disclosed as what they are truly about.
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Yeah, so do you think they'd be using some kind
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of V2K, like voice-to-skull technology to manipulate and target with
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something like that?
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It's not voice-to-skull direct technology. It is MQ ultra technology,
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and the MQ ultra technologies do not need the voice-to-skull
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because they directly get into the vortex chakra of your
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own magnetic flow of your third eye. So they are
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linked in energetic telepathic pathways to your own consciousness. And
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also they work with the geometric aspects of fractalization properties.
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You know that all humans are fractalized. You know that
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all humans have levels of fractalization, mostly those that are
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part of mKilter programs. But these specific programs allow that
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certain individuals are, let's say, candidates to these forms of
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iteration or engineering of fractals where they can change the
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subtle aspects of the self. They can engineer the way
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that you're expressing your energy, that way that you're presenting
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your energy in a subtle way, in a very subconscious way,
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the way that you think, the way that you are also,
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your connections, your genetic connections, they can also use it
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for genetic engineering. So it's all about geometrical fractal reorganization
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and predisposition. And it's something that all of these elite
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groups utilize at this moment. Wow. Wow.
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This is a, so we just, Lavender wants me to
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verify this with you from the chat. She says, so
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the line group of the serious constellation, they're from Syrian
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and Lyra and Anunnaki. And then she says, and they
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don't like other Anunnaki groups who are from other constellations,
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but do they not like Pleiadians as well?
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Well, this group, yes, that is great. They are Syrians
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and Lyra and Anunnaki. And it's specifically the most resonant
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wording here also to take into consideration consideration is Elohim,
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the Elohim, you know, group. They are strongly resonant within that,
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and that is very important because of something that I
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will explain further in this interview. But, yes, they don't
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tend to like older and inaccurate groups because some of
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the things that were given to me as a form
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of contact and download about these people is that one
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of the things that they possess as a form of
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mental disorder is hooveries, and certain levels of extreme forms
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of narcissism that pushed them eventually to claim that they
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need to impose their own genetics on this planet for
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that matter. And that is what catered into a lot
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of the conflicts that, you know, triggered the fall of Atlantis. Wow.
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So they've been around since the fall of Atlantis, this
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group of Anunnaki, I would guess. And do you think
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they were responsible for the genetic modification of man?
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They have been part of that, but they are not
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the most ancient groups. They are actually one of the
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newest groups to be part of these genetic iterations. And
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for that very same matter, they created all the chaos
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and the conflict that shouldn't have happened because our genetic
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iterations at least were made in a way that there
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was certain harmony between groups, between groups and mixtures. And
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when they came into the picture, They became very aggressively,
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very narcissistically thinking that their genetics will save us and
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will create a pathway, an alternative pathway for us to
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get out of the time matrix, you know. And they
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were so narcissistic about it that they created a lot
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of genetic engineering and infusions in such an aggressive way that, again,
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it did create horrible conflicts and war amongst anarchic groups
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that were not necessarily a conflict. and they were the
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responsibles for the so-called Volantis because of certain aspects that
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I can also break into different explanations.
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I got a question. Is this where we get the
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Lyran Wars from? Would this be a part of the
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Lyran Wars?
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I don't have that piece of information confirmed, but what
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I know about them is that they're mostly... The information
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that I got, it's mostly their involvement on Earth. Yeah.
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So they're embedded in Earth. Would you say they're like
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maybe an inner Earth or something like that?
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No, absolutely no. All the opposite. They are enemies of
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the inner Earth people. They are enemies of the most
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ancient groups that have in here very neutrally and even
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very positively co-creating with us and helping in our evolution.
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That's why they want Sobat to impose a great hybridization
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timeline because they want to continue their own aggressive genetic
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iterations with the help of these opportunity of the great hybrids.
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And this is something that I could explain very easily.
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You've dealt with this for a while. Like I know
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you've been a part of this hybridization. I've interviewed you
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and I know you went on Linda Moulton Howe and
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talked about it as well. If you want to tell
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the people you've been dealing with this great, you've been
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involved in this great hybridization stuff for a while, right? Yes.
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Like, yes. Like crazy. Since 2012. They were presented to
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me when I was only 17 years old. It was 2017.
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And in 2020, approximately, I got introduced to the idea
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that I have to decide if I want to continue
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my natural form of evolution with my own genetics and
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with the ancient groups that are helping us or if
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that it's their agenda, it's something that I want to
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be part of. And when I rejected them, They did
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not allow a no for announcer and they tried killing me,
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murdering me directly.
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Wow. And then what happened? I mean, did you have
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to break in and give in and still be a
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part of the hybridization just to not be killed, I guess?
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No.
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No.
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My guides, the ones that are, you know, known and
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gender-based and connected to the original timeline of evolution for Earth,
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you know, the seven races of humanity, etc., that are
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present since much more millions of years ago, they helped
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me save my life from these grey hybrids and these
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Anunnaki-Elohim hybrids, you know, by working with my own inner technologies,
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the Merkaba, which is what they were targeting, you know,
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to try to create, you know, me being killed of
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Sabbath death or, you know, a brain cloth and also
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a brain tumor, they tried to give me big C
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and they didn't, you know, I never had tested positive
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for any of these diseases, you know, fortunately, but they
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were trying to do it by creating first energetic expression
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of it through the brain implant that they were placing
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in my own head. And I started having the symptoms
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of a brain tumor, even though I didn't have it
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physically yet, because as my guides explained, the symptoms were
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a product of this energetic construct that they were sending
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in the sign of the brain implant. So even though
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it was not yet biologically formed, they were creating the
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energetic form of that. And I was experiencing real symptoms
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of that.
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Wow. And at this time, were you starting to experience
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stuff with the secret space program as well? Yes.
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And what I got to understand is, They are not
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separated from the secret space programs and they are also
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working with the MKUltra technologies and Monarch programs and satanic
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ritual uses. They are not different in any way from
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the elite groups that utilizes these techniques and technologies, which
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is the most shocking thing to see in the disclosure
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communities because people think that if they are using those technologies,
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then it's only about mental influence or mind control in
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the sense of belief systems but no they do complete
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horrors with human consciousness in similar aspects to the darker
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groups that you can imagine or the need ones they
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don't care about us it's more about.
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Them we gotta so we have a question from the
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audience so are these are these is this group connected
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to anki and enloe or is that like a different
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group of anunnaki.
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Yes they have obviously to pick aside because well the
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conflict of Enki and Elin is much more ancient than
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these beings, you know, this specific group. So they do
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have one of these sides, you know, that they are most,
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let's say, that they find themselves more, how to say this, conceited, like,
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I don't know the word, but there's one side that
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they just happen to agree more with, you know, they
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happen to be more on one side or another, but
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they're not necessarily part of that conflict. Wow. Yeah.
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And guys, if you have questions for Marina, go ahead
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and put them in the chat. You know, we'll take
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your live questions, you know, because like, you know, she's
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been on it a lot of times and she's told
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her story. But if you have a question about her story,
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about the connection to the real or the secret space
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program or each or their hybridization program or any of that,
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just put it in the chat now. And she's going
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to maybe elaborate on some of the stuff. Now, you
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said you kind of wanted to talk more about the Elohim.
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Did you want to get into that a little bit?
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Yes, yes, I do want. Well, one of the first
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things to share about that is if you look at
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the natural and original timeline for Earthvolution, you see that
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from the Theosophy of Madame Blavatsky, the seven races, we
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know that that is the very initial iterations that created
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the configuration for human DNA and genetics for our own
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expansion of our own consciousness. In each and one of
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the pole shifts or the new epochs of humanity's, that
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happen every 26,000 years, you know, every single change in procession, right?
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So we have the Galerians, we have the Atlanteans, the Hyperboreans,
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the Lemurians, the Aryans, you know, and we are becoming
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the sixth, you know, root race right now in that transformation,
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that pole shift, right? Yeah. if you see any of
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the words and the suffix of the words that end
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with that, that we used to name those specific races
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and constructs of our own consciousness, all of them end
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with the suffix An. And An comes from An, the Anu,
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the god An of the Anunnaki, right? So it's very ancient,
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you know, that timeline of evolution is very ancient, you know?
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And so when the Elohim came in, They literally admitted
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themselves in various channelings also that they just observe Earth,
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you know, from a very narcissistic perspective, they observe Earth.
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And they just said that they didn't agree with our genetics.
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And they decided that they will give their genetics to
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try to reprogram the entire grid of humanity into one
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that is embedding highly their own energetics so that we
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are moved, you know, by the force to what they
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consider to be best humanity. for us, but nevertheless, it
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was not so much about them caring about us. It
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was much more about them just wanting to be more representative,
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you know, on decisions on their behalf in terms of Earth.
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And in fact, the whole grey hybridization program was their
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perfect advantage to continue this hybridization of their own groups,
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this infusion of their own genetics, because if you see,
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this is very easy to recognize as a pattern. The
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gray hybrids, you know, we all know that the grays
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are these future timeline version of us humans that destroy
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themselves because they disconnected from nature. And by disconnected from
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nature and not working with the elements and not working
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with the Kundalini and not working with the inner technologies,
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but rather wanting genetic iterations to just be more psychic, mental, intelligent,
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et cetera, but nothing rather than that. When they disconnected
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from the elements and from nature, And ancient traditions and doctrines,
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they deteriorated themselves to the point of extinction, right? They
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understood that they needed that initial connection with the elements
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and nature in order to transcend up to the fifth
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density and not get stuck in the fourth density, which
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is what happened to them. And the lower fourth density,
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not even the upper one, right? So what they did
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is that they were shown, they were... offered, you know,
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the opportunity to perform genetic harvesting of a version of Earth,
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which is us, that in which we still have the
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potential and connection to work with these elements in order
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to continue this evolutionary cycle on Earth, right? And it
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is exactly what happened at the beginning. They started taking
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and harvesting the eggs, the sperm, all these different things,
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and they created their hybrid race in which they could
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continue right away. And there was no drama, no more drama,
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nothing else that they had to do for themselves. And
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that is the first hybrid race that is called the Sasani, right?
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The Sasani people. Something very important to see and observe
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here as a pattern is that that first race, that
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they only needed that one in order to continue and
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leave us alone, it's called the Sasani. And them as
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a group, they have confessed publicly that they look like Tibetans,
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that they have blue eyes, that they have connections to
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ancient Hinduism. And they even use the words of ancient Hinduism,
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which is Shiva or Shivai. And if anybody knows about
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the seven races of humanity, specifically the last one, which
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is the one that we are right now, the fifth one,
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the Aryans. Aryans comes from Hinduism, you know, and Aryan
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means the novel in ancient India. And these families that
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were very, you know, pale like them, blue-eyed, and using
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these words like Shiva and their own deities, you know,
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They were, it is exactly the reason why these gray
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hybrids of the Sasani have those connections and those expressions
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of genetic forms, right? Because they harvest their genetics from
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the last root race, from the current root race that
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we are. Now, a very important aspect is that if
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you observe all the newer races of branches of newer
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hybrid gray races that were created as a means to
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get closer and closer and closer to Earth human genetics
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to try to create this timeline of grey hybridization for
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us to introduce these by the force and then try
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to mix us with them by the force, right? If
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you see every single name of these newer ranches of
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races of hybrids, their names end with L.
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All of them.
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The Plaulayel, the Salayel... the Yah-Yel, all of them. And
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that is when you see the evidence that the Elohim
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are the group of beings of Anunnaki that decided to say, hey,
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as an opportunistic form, let's create a hybridization program where
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we mix our own interests in this hybridization timeline for
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Earth and we keep giving their genetics through this opportunity
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of also giving your genetics and creating these gray hybrid
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races to introduce in humans, you know, to create another
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version entirely of our species and our planet.
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Wow. And now you said that they end these, they
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end in AL. So would Israel be one of them
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as well?
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Yes. In fact, they are part of the, they're Zionist.
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They believe in Zionism and that's why they were incriminated
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for being part of the wars against, you know, palestinian
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and all these other regions and working with elite groups
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that are also scientists which is what i am um
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observing and i am a witness of you know.
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Yeah yeah yeah now i don't want to get too
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much in that because i don't want the video to
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get taken down yeah i just wanted to put it
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call it out there yeah um now um you a
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couple of things like you you're you're i i guess
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you're a practicing druid like what do it would it
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would tie you into that that does that tie into
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this all like how you um.
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I don't understand quite the question.
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Are you still a practicing druid? What attracted you to
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that originally? Does it have to do with what's going
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on with all this stuff? Does it tie in?
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Practicing druid? Yeah.
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Druidism? Yeah.
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Oh, yes, yes. I am a druidic because my lineage
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is Celtic in origin. So I do have abilities within Judaism, yes,
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Celtic Judaism.
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Wow, that's interesting. Okay, so I'm trying to think where
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we're going. We have some questions from the audience. Sure.
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This is, let me see here. Yeah, and you guys can,
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like you said, you guys can put your questions in
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the audience. This one was from Derek. He says, what
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country has the most active SSP programs? I would guess
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like Germany probably, you know, because, I mean, they have usually,
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I mean, but I like the answer. I'm sorry.
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No, in terms of the political influence directly, in terms
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of CIA intelligence, I mean, intelligence infrastructures and agencies, the
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country that has the most active secret space programs right
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now is USA, followed by Spain, certain other countries in Europe,
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and China. Those are the most active. The Germans on itself,
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they're just having to be the protagonists, obviously, of the
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space program because that's where the technology is. and the
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whole program infrastructures came from, but Germany in itself has
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an infrastructure. And when it comes to their intelligence agencies,
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they're not the most active, you know?
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Yeah.
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That's a good point. Yeah. And then, um, w what,
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what drew you to the original, what, uh, someone asked
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in the, in the audience about the Vril, your connections
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to the Vril.
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Yes. So, um, I have two confirmed incarnations in the Reich. Yes.
476
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.849
And one of them is as a Vrillerin, as they
477
00:29:38.890 --> 00:29:45.039
call it, or a Vril Maiden, which is a woman
478
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.500
that was part of the Vril Gesellschaft, the Vril Society,
479
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:53.069
made only of females, where we activate our own mediumship
480
00:29:53.109 --> 00:29:57.750
abilities and psychic gifts to communicate to otherworldly beings, to
481
00:29:57.910 --> 00:30:02.250
interdimensional beings or extraterrestrial consciousnesses. to bring in downloads of
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00:30:02.309 --> 00:30:06.369
information or even messages about these groups and connections.
483
00:30:07.289 --> 00:30:12.559
Wow, this is fascinating, yeah. And did the Vril tie
484
00:30:12.579 --> 00:30:16.200
into this Anunnaki group? Does their lineage tie into this
485
00:30:16.259 --> 00:30:17.660
Anunnaki group that you're talking about?
486
00:30:18.940 --> 00:30:23.299
The Vril are enemies. Well, directly, yes, they are not
487
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:28.500
in friendliness. They're not friendly with these beings of Anunnaki
488
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:31.839
that I'm exposing, obviously. We are not. Because they are
489
00:30:31.900 --> 00:30:36.119
trying to attack against us, against our own groups, connections,
490
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.640
our own stories, our own ancient traditions. They want to
491
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:43.170
reprogram the entirety of Earth. They believe in communism. They
492
00:30:43.210 --> 00:30:46.950
believe in taking away all the ancient traditions, all the
493
00:30:47.049 --> 00:30:49.769
ancient pagan gods, and creating their own version of Earth.
494
00:30:50.049 --> 00:30:51.089
They're highly tyrannical.
495
00:30:52.029 --> 00:30:53.289
Wow, that's interesting.
496
00:30:53.309 --> 00:30:53.470
Yeah.
497
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:55.599
And what else do we need to know about this
498
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:59.059
Anunnaki group? Like, what else is on their agenda, do
499
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.200
you think? Or what do you think we'll see start
500
00:31:01.220 --> 00:31:03.289
playing out in the world?
501
00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:06.769
Well, they are trying right now so bad to take
502
00:31:06.869 --> 00:31:11.029
over the disclosure narrative. And they are, I have seen
503
00:31:11.049 --> 00:31:14.190
them operate in a lot of big conferences of disclosure
504
00:31:14.730 --> 00:31:18.049
where they dedicate themselves to abduct the beings, mostly the
505
00:31:18.130 --> 00:31:22.230
ones that are either speakers or international, you know, global
506
00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:28.289
speakers or SSP whistleblowers that have an audience or an
507
00:31:28.329 --> 00:31:32.509
influence and precisely, most interestingly, if they are also fractalized
508
00:31:32.529 --> 00:31:35.819
and are part of the in-kilter programs so that they
509
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.259
are gathering them in the shifts when these events happen
510
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.960
to try to give them purpose, to try to give
511
00:31:41.019 --> 00:31:43.609
them indications of what are the things that they need
512
00:31:43.730 --> 00:31:47.509
to do in order to fulfill or try to get
513
00:31:47.529 --> 00:31:52.730
their own agenda to be met with human terms. So
514
00:31:52.769 --> 00:31:55.730
there is right now a war among groups that are
515
00:31:55.809 --> 00:31:59.769
trying to take over the narrative of disclosure. Disclosure itself
516
00:32:00.589 --> 00:32:04.170
is held by angelic beings that are very neutral in
517
00:32:04.230 --> 00:32:08.339
nature and they are not necessarily agenda-based in any of
518
00:32:08.420 --> 00:32:12.900
the narratives that are involved They strive for neutrality because
519
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.839
they only want, you know, to help in what humans
520
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.180
prefer for themselves. They don't have any preference that they
521
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.700
want to impose. And for that matter, they are mediating
522
00:32:22.869 --> 00:32:25.930
amongst all these different agendas and factions that want so
523
00:32:25.990 --> 00:32:27.329
bad to take over this narrative.
524
00:32:28.349 --> 00:32:32.730
Well, this is from Lavender Skies. She says, are the
525
00:32:32.789 --> 00:32:34.849
Anunnaki coming back to Earth? I would guess they never
526
00:32:34.890 --> 00:32:36.809
left or they've always been here, right? Or do they
527
00:32:36.890 --> 00:32:39.150
operate in a multidimensional sense or something like that?
528
00:32:40.349 --> 00:32:49.259
They've always been here, yes, 100%. Well, Anunnaki is a very,
529
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:54.559
very ambiguous word because there are many groups. And to
530
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:58.190
be honest, Anunnaki is just like saying human or saying reptilian.
531
00:32:58.690 --> 00:33:11.000
You have to understand that we have a lot of combinations. Pleiadian, Lyran, Anunnaki, Nephilim, Draconian, these, that, Sirius, Nephilim,
532
00:33:11.460 --> 00:33:16.680
we have the Orphan, the Elohim, the Nephilim, combined with
533
00:33:16.819 --> 00:33:19.640
many different mixtures of then the closer DNA, which could
534
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:24.680
be Sirius, Pleiades, Orion, Anunnaki, I mean, Tillion, etc. So
535
00:33:24.940 --> 00:33:29.400
the mixtures are so much that we cannot just refer
536
00:33:29.460 --> 00:33:31.579
to the Anunnaki as one group on itself.
537
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.599
Do you think a lot of people are involved in
538
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:41.559
this grey hybridization program and they just don't know it?
539
00:33:42.420 --> 00:33:46.059
Yes, there are thousands and vast numbers of humans who
540
00:33:46.299 --> 00:33:49.329
are being involved in this that are not aware of
541
00:33:50.009 --> 00:33:53.849
and my most important warning to humanity always has been
542
00:33:53.910 --> 00:33:57.029
to expose them for the matter because they just don't
543
00:33:57.069 --> 00:33:59.569
want to harness your DNA and leave you alone. They
544
00:33:59.589 --> 00:34:03.740
want to harness your genetics but then They want to
545
00:34:03.859 --> 00:34:06.599
use the mKiltra technologies of Zika space program that they
546
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:11.619
have access to, to use forms of genetic engineering, reprogramming
547
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:15.090
of your own consciousness, forcing you to co-create with other groups,
548
00:34:15.110 --> 00:34:17.889
to try to force you into that timeline of this
549
00:34:18.010 --> 00:34:24.230
grey hybridization where they will completely reprogram and restructure the
550
00:34:24.250 --> 00:34:28.159
entire genomic sequence of humans. We will not be us.
551
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.679
It's an agenda. that also will take us a lot
552
00:34:31.699 --> 00:34:36.000
of the opportunities and open doors for us in evolution
553
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:40.119
ahead of us that are so wide and so exciting
554
00:34:40.539 --> 00:34:44.010
that it's just ridiculous, you know, to find any purpose
555
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:48.070
in mixing with them. Not even for the obvious aspects,
556
00:34:48.110 --> 00:34:53.050
but also for other aspects in terms of timelines, because
557
00:34:53.090 --> 00:34:57.610
it will just... The cycle... in which we are informing
558
00:34:57.670 --> 00:35:00.550
ourselves from these great genetics and these Elohim genetics will
559
00:35:01.369 --> 00:35:04.170
close the doors from all the different pathways of evolution
560
00:35:04.230 --> 00:35:08.889
where we evolved with ancient ones, with other energetic imprints,
561
00:35:08.949 --> 00:35:14.139
with other energies, other consciousness. So it's horrible. It is horrible.
562
00:35:14.780 --> 00:35:18.679
And not just because of that, it takes away our
563
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:24.949
connection with the so-called elements of earth. and the ancient
564
00:35:25.670 --> 00:35:28.739
gods and deities that play a very important key aspects
565
00:35:28.820 --> 00:35:31.760
to our own ancient traditions and to the way that
566
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:35.119
we relate to archetypes within our own planet, which is
567
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:39.219
why they were the responsible, this group, of the Fall
568
00:35:39.260 --> 00:35:42.380
of Atlantis, which is something I can break down if
569
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:43.219
you want to.
570
00:35:43.980 --> 00:35:46.210
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'd love to know more about it,
571
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:46.699
for sure.
572
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:50.530
Yes. So this group, as I shared at the beginning,
573
00:35:50.590 --> 00:35:57.260
they want nothing else but mammal DNA. they are highly
574
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:02.360
enemies of these serpent reptilian DNA and they want so
575
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.260
bad to demonize it as if it was something negative,
576
00:36:05.300 --> 00:36:09.559
something that creates chaos or polarity or fractalization, when in
577
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:12.989
fact the serpent DNA is what gives us the access
578
00:36:13.070 --> 00:36:17.409
to the secret aspects of the Kundalini, ancient knowledge and
579
00:36:17.449 --> 00:36:21.429
wisdom of the Kundalini. which we can see in our caduceus, right?
580
00:36:21.489 --> 00:36:23.590
It was given, it was knowledge that it was imparted
581
00:36:23.650 --> 00:36:27.670
by the Anunnaki that held that serpent genetics, that serpent DNA.
582
00:36:28.530 --> 00:36:31.650
So back in Atlantis, you know, there was, as in
583
00:36:31.809 --> 00:36:35.829
every change and shift of pole shift or epoch, there
584
00:36:35.989 --> 00:36:40.019
is always a concentration of all these different, you know,
585
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:47.420
aspects of groups colliding into conflicts, whatever, because their needs,
586
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:53.389
consciousness is becoming more polarized and dense for that need
587
00:36:53.469 --> 00:36:56.750
to integrate, you know, into transition into that, let's say,
588
00:36:56.789 --> 00:37:02.469
for density consciousness, into creator consciousness, right? And integrative all-visuality aspects.
589
00:37:03.090 --> 00:37:06.750
So what happened is that these beings, again, because of
590
00:37:06.829 --> 00:37:11.329
this mental disorder that they possessed, being so narcissistic and,
591
00:37:11.550 --> 00:37:19.090
you know, being so self-agenda-based driven, they started infusing the
592
00:37:19.130 --> 00:37:21.670
groups that they were in co-creation with, and given their
593
00:37:21.710 --> 00:37:24.369
own genetic material, a lot and a lot and a
594
00:37:24.409 --> 00:37:27.489
lot of this material, and trying to drive people against
595
00:37:27.550 --> 00:37:32.599
this serpent DNA. What happened is that because of the
596
00:37:32.659 --> 00:37:36.579
disconnection that they created in those genetic iterations from this
597
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:43.280
serpent DNA, these groups lost a lot of the ancient
598
00:37:43.340 --> 00:37:46.409
knowledge of the Kundalini. all the secrets of the Kundalini
599
00:37:46.489 --> 00:37:51.130
knowledge that was imparted by ancient Anunnaki. And because of that,
600
00:37:51.269 --> 00:37:54.510
you know, also the Kundalini, the global Kundalini of the
601
00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:58.849
earth itself started to lose balance. And not only that,
602
00:37:59.969 --> 00:38:02.840
within that Kundalini, there's a knowledge on how to deal
603
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.880
with the elements of earth altogether. That's why every single
604
00:38:06.940 --> 00:38:09.440
root race is connected to one element to be a
605
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:14.010
master of. So, they created so much disconnection and this
606
00:38:14.090 --> 00:38:17.880
harmony and imbalance with these elements by removing this genetics
607
00:38:17.900 --> 00:38:21.840
so aggressively and imposing their genetics that there was a
608
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:26.699
lot of pollution in these elements and imbalance. And it
609
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.260
eventually created so much chaos, so much imbalance that it
610
00:38:31.820 --> 00:38:34.610
triggered the catastrophe of the fall of Atlantis because the
611
00:38:34.650 --> 00:38:38.829
beings there were not able to transpass that construct of
612
00:38:38.849 --> 00:38:42.440
the falling and they eventually fell. And they eventually, you know,
613
00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:46.480
had to, Atlantis had to sink eventually. Yeah.
614
00:38:46.780 --> 00:38:49.650
This one's from Kitsilayo. He says, are the Anunnaki psychopaths,
615
00:38:49.730 --> 00:38:50.110
do you think?
616
00:38:50.710 --> 00:38:54.170
No, they're not. And again, there are many branches of
617
00:38:54.190 --> 00:38:59.190
the Anunnaki that could be more psychopathic in nature or
618
00:38:59.269 --> 00:39:05.179
more negative, neutral or gender driven, let's say. But it
619
00:39:05.219 --> 00:39:07.760
depends a lot of the groups, you know. the more
620
00:39:08.219 --> 00:39:12.679
degressive or regressive genetics they have and possess are not that,
621
00:39:12.739 --> 00:39:17.900
you know, let's say, aligned with compassion, of course, the
622
00:39:17.940 --> 00:39:21.969
more psychopathic they could be. But the Nonakeson itself, they
623
00:39:22.110 --> 00:39:25.630
are either just very positive or neutral and very wise,
624
00:39:26.230 --> 00:39:29.030
or they are groups that simply could not care about
625
00:39:29.090 --> 00:39:32.670
humans because they are very, some of them can be
626
00:39:32.730 --> 00:39:36.070
elitistic and not think of us as their children, you know.
627
00:39:36.730 --> 00:39:37.929
Depends on the club, you know.
628
00:39:38.449 --> 00:39:42.360
Yeah, absolutely. And then this is from Lavender. Lavender says,
629
00:39:42.420 --> 00:39:45.159
is Earth's AI part of the Lion group Anunnaki?
630
00:39:45.179 --> 00:39:45.260
Yes.
631
00:39:46.420 --> 00:39:51.610
Yes. They are utilizing AI programs, not to say that
632
00:39:51.630 --> 00:39:54.070
they are the ones responsible for the one and only
633
00:39:54.230 --> 00:39:59.090
AI on Earth. There are multiple groups on Earth and
634
00:39:59.230 --> 00:40:01.690
outside of Earth that are interacting with us that in
635
00:40:01.710 --> 00:40:05.809
their processes, in their communications, in their contact experiences, they
636
00:40:06.030 --> 00:40:11.469
are deciding to, they're inclined towards utilizing AI programs because
637
00:40:11.610 --> 00:40:15.519
it just facilitates a lot of the processes of the
638
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.019
mechanics of the either the contact experience or, you know,
639
00:40:19.139 --> 00:40:22.159
the communication, et cetera. So yes, but they're not the
640
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.219
only ones, you know, the beings from inner earth, they
641
00:40:24.300 --> 00:40:25.380
utilize AI too.
642
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:26.420
A lot of them.
643
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:27.679
Wow.
644
00:40:28.550 --> 00:40:30.570
And what do you think they're trying to use the AI?
645
00:40:30.849 --> 00:40:33.530
So to manipulate humanity, basically, would you say?
646
00:40:34.489 --> 00:40:37.449
No, it depends on the agenda. You know, most of
647
00:40:37.469 --> 00:40:40.739
the beings utilize it to just facilitate and accelerate their
648
00:40:40.780 --> 00:40:45.000
own processes. You know, the processes are mechanical and yeah.
649
00:40:45.619 --> 00:40:49.489
Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, guys, put your questions for Marina
650
00:40:49.530 --> 00:40:54.010
in the chat. And then how does this tie into
651
00:40:54.030 --> 00:40:56.989
the secret space program? I mean, we might have covered
652
00:40:57.010 --> 00:40:59.809
that a little bit, but does it tie into some
653
00:40:59.829 --> 00:41:03.889
of these factions like Kruger and Knopfwaffen or Solar Warden?
654
00:41:03.989 --> 00:41:06.670
Are these groups all tied to the standard knocking group?
655
00:41:08.829 --> 00:41:11.670
Um, I am in contact right now with the inner
656
00:41:11.769 --> 00:41:16.289
earth beings and with the, some neutral, um, German groups,
657
00:41:16.449 --> 00:41:19.929
you know, the space program and Spanish ones. I am
658
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:25.400
in contact with Kruger as I said, yes. And, um, uh,
659
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.079
they are helping me defend the timelines of earth and
660
00:41:29.139 --> 00:41:31.679
they are, they also help me assess a lot of
661
00:41:31.699 --> 00:41:34.280
this information about the girls that are targeting me right now.
662
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.409
Wow. That's interesting. J. Skyrim says, are they like Jehovah
663
00:41:39.449 --> 00:41:40.780
and Anunnaki? Would that be that?
664
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.940
Yes, they are. They are part also of the cult
665
00:41:45.019 --> 00:41:48.119
of Yahweh, you know. Yeah.
666
00:41:48.139 --> 00:41:51.019
So is Yahweh Enlil or no? Or is that like different?
667
00:41:51.659 --> 00:41:55.400
No, Yahweh is one entity from this specific group of
668
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:59.380
the Elohim that is came in very aggressively trying to
669
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:04.760
pose as God. and trying to create an effect in humans, well,
670
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.940
they will demonize any other aspects of consciousness that is
671
00:42:07.980 --> 00:42:11.440
not their cult, you know? Yeah.
672
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:13.800
So about the hybrids, do the hybrids walk among us,
673
00:42:13.820 --> 00:42:15.809
or is that what they're trying to get, the hybrids
674
00:42:15.829 --> 00:42:16.590
to walk among us?
675
00:42:17.809 --> 00:42:20.909
They are not walking among us at all, you know,
676
00:42:20.949 --> 00:42:24.050
there are some exceptions, but what they're trying to do
677
00:42:24.110 --> 00:42:28.349
for that matter is that they're trying to engineer the
678
00:42:28.369 --> 00:42:32.280
greed of Earth, the morphogenetic field of earth with more
679
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.280
genetics and more energetics of their own consciousness by the force, uh,
680
00:42:36.300 --> 00:42:38.519
to target beings, even if they're not aware of that,
681
00:42:38.860 --> 00:42:42.059
so that they create the basis for them to allow
682
00:42:42.099 --> 00:42:44.889
them to land, which is what, why I call these
683
00:42:45.030 --> 00:42:46.429
a passive invasive agenda.
684
00:42:47.550 --> 00:42:47.809
Yeah.
685
00:42:48.170 --> 00:42:48.889
That's interesting.
686
00:42:49.030 --> 00:42:53.449
And then, uh, um, and then Kitsilio says, uh, uh,
687
00:42:53.710 --> 00:42:55.750
how long have the hybrids been a thing they decided
688
00:42:55.769 --> 00:42:56.250
they wanted?
689
00:42:56.469 --> 00:43:03.099
Like, Um, the, the Elohim specifically, well, um, when it
690
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:07.860
came to the, um, when it comes to the whole
691
00:43:07.900 --> 00:43:09.880
library station that they did on their own, we have
692
00:43:09.900 --> 00:43:12.500
the grays, they've been here, as I said, you know,
693
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:14.639
around these times of Atlantis when they came in and
694
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:17.219
they tried to re-program the entire grid. In fact, you know,
695
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:21.260
religion is one of the ways that they utilize to
696
00:43:21.449 --> 00:43:25.010
program the grid away from paganism and ancient tradition. That's
697
00:43:25.070 --> 00:43:30.250
why many beings were, will be surprisingly finding a continent
698
00:43:30.389 --> 00:43:33.650
that didn't need to be found, right? I am Spanish
699
00:43:33.750 --> 00:43:36.789
and I am from Spain. And, you know, I know
700
00:43:36.809 --> 00:43:41.250
my story very well. And Christopher Columbus didn't just discover America.
701
00:43:41.269 --> 00:43:44.889
Christopher Columbus was guided by that group, you know, that
702
00:43:44.929 --> 00:43:48.130
were trying to reprogram the grid with Christianity, trying to
703
00:43:48.190 --> 00:43:52.449
wipe out ancient traditions and knowledge to take over the
704
00:43:52.489 --> 00:43:55.989
grid with their own religion, right? And that's why Christianity
705
00:43:56.030 --> 00:43:58.809
has been expanded all around the globe. it was on
706
00:43:58.849 --> 00:44:02.309
purpose to create this monotheistic form of religion to get
707
00:44:02.369 --> 00:44:05.630
us outside of the ancient genetics, the ancient knowledge, the
708
00:44:05.690 --> 00:44:08.670
ancient secrets of the other groups of the Anunnaki that
709
00:44:08.750 --> 00:44:11.150
are more present, right? That have been more present since
710
00:44:11.210 --> 00:44:14.659
millions of years ago. And so these Elohim groups, you know,
711
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they were still working on their own agendas until this
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coming of the new root race, you know, the sixth
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root race, which is also why they are trying to
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synchronistically call the ultimate hybrid race as the sixth hybrid race,
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you know, sort of casualty. They just want to make
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the names be similar, you know, the concepts to try
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to create a form of, you know, misguidance in there.
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The time in which they started working with the grey
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hybridization programs, I believe that it started even a little
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before it actually started happening here on Earth. let's say,
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last century, I think they planned that much time ago
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because time does not exist to start with. So these
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grey-eyed groups that are already part of the so-called yayel
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and all these, they already exist in the future. They
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already exist as a future timeline on Earth where we
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actually go that path, right? So when the pole shift
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has started happening, these groups have the ability to observe
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timelines and observe their own genetics and their own fractals
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of consciousness. And they obviously were able to identify this
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timeline of the programs, this aspect of the programs where
731
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they decided to blend, you know, their own agendas into
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this one greater, bigger hybridization plan for humans. So it
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was very synchronistic, but of course, it's because they utilize
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this for density consciousness dynamics for sure.
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Yeah. Let me see here. Oh, this is from William Thornton.
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He says, how do they influence the morphogenic earth field
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to influence fractalization related, he says.
738
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They influence it by the aspects of the fractalization properties
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by infusing their own, first of all, by reorganizing the
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fractal predisposition of our own self. let's say that there
741
00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:21.199
are certain energetics that, um, maybe a star systems energies, right?
742
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Like for example, specifically serious that they hold more resonance
743
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with because of the aspect of the connection itself. Right.
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So if they are targeting, you know, these groups of
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beings that they're taking into their hybrid programs and they come,
746
00:46:35.349 --> 00:46:38.789
they have strong resonance with the serious constellation. What they're
747
00:46:38.829 --> 00:46:41.280
going to do. The first thing is trying to hyper
748
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focalize their, um, themselves and your consciousness into that aspect
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of your genetics and amplify and activate and try to
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00:46:51.590 --> 00:46:55.170
vibrate as much as they can this Syrian energy. And
751
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from there, they can find a resonance to start with. And,
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you know, this process is multiplied and continue with older
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00:47:05.150 --> 00:47:08.469
forms of energy. They try to take older energies that
754
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are very resonant with the programs, like, for example, Orion DNA,
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00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.420
because the Grays have a strong resonance with Orion, not
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00:47:14.460 --> 00:47:17.920
because they come from that, obviously, but because the trauma,
757
00:47:17.940 --> 00:47:20.510
the karma that made them fail comes from a karma
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from Orion genetics. So they also start to buy very,
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00:47:24.170 --> 00:47:28.130
very strongly those aspects of your genetics. They try to
760
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infuse in you fractals of your unconscious cell that are
761
00:47:31.449 --> 00:47:34.550
in other timelines, that are existing as one of part
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00:47:34.570 --> 00:47:37.429
of their own groups, you know, and that way they
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00:47:37.449 --> 00:47:42.989
are creating a geometric predisposition and your own morphogenetic self
764
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as an individual too, or they're trying to, let's say,
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highlight these genetic aspects to try to make it more
766
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.139
resonant and silence the other genetic aspects that doesn't have
767
00:47:55.179 --> 00:47:57.920
to do so much with their own group and their
768
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own agenda.
769
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Yeah. We had a question from Audrey Walters. She said
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you kind of, or she said you cosplay as an AZI.
771
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But me and you have redressed with this many times.
772
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.159
I just wanted to get it out there, like that
773
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you're not racist, that you're not, you know, you had
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00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.719
an incarnation as a Reich officer and you kind of like,
775
00:48:22.260 --> 00:48:23.679
is that what it is or, yeah.
776
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.429
Oh yeah, but also I do, it is 100% true
777
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that I do dress like that, but it's because I'm
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part of the professional historical reenactment events here in Spain
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that have to do with that side of history. And
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my family has been doing that for a long time
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and not just of Germany, but other countries. And specifically,
782
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you know, I did it. I synchronized, synchronistically did that
783
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because it was my guides and my higher, my higher
784
00:48:51.630 --> 00:48:55.489
self way to help me remember more about that past life.
785
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But the way, the reason why I keep doing it,
786
00:48:58.469 --> 00:49:01.510
it's because I'm hired and I actually play, you know,
787
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in actual real historical renaming events where they, actually even
788
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paint you know so.
789
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:11.530
You're a model right yeah too you're a professional model
790
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i am wow that's amazing congratulations that's awesome yeah i
791
00:49:15.809 --> 00:49:20.119
mean yeah i mean okay. So, okay. This is, this
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is from Kitsil Isle. He says, this is an interesting, oh, wait,
793
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this is, he says, do all beings suffer from karma?
794
00:49:26.260 --> 00:49:29.329
So like these Anunnaki, are they, do they, will they
795
00:49:29.389 --> 00:49:31.650
suffer from karma for the things they're doing to humanity?
796
00:49:32.429 --> 00:49:37.059
Yes, they do. Yes, they do. In fact, you know, I, I,
797
00:49:37.909 --> 00:49:40.550
I see how they try so bad to play with
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that on the greed. Because when you inflict karma, you know,
799
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on a group, there is, you create a system, you
800
00:49:48.929 --> 00:49:51.820
create an energetic expression within the system of the consciousness,
801
00:49:51.909 --> 00:49:56.440
which you are polarizing yourself. So you cannot interfere that
802
00:49:56.500 --> 00:50:01.199
much forward if you have that polarization property there, that
803
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karmic cycle, let's say. And so many of these groups
804
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are trying to integrate their own karma or try to
805
00:50:07.550 --> 00:50:09.710
solve that or try to neutralize it or give it
806
00:50:09.730 --> 00:50:13.210
to other people so that they are not quantumly entangled
807
00:50:13.250 --> 00:50:14.929
to that karmic cycle, right?
808
00:50:15.969 --> 00:50:19.400
Yeah, yeah. This is a good question from William. He says,
809
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can SSPs also help combat the groups trying to affect
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us via the morphogenic field, just beyond exposing them? Will
811
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they step in and help humanity?
812
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There are many of them that are working. And at
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this moment, what I can tell is that the reason
814
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why their help is not as strong as it was
815
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for me some months ago, it's because the conflict has
816
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escalated in the summer. There is a massive war right
817
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:55.480
now and conflict between these two groups. And there is
818
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a lot of information that it's been disclosed to me
819
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by these angelic beings. And I'm working with the so-called
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inverted golden triangle-headed beings. If you've ever seen, if you
821
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haven't heard about, you know, David Wilcox and, you know,
822
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:16.539
Corey Good's documentaries where they show these inverted triangle golden-headed,
823
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you know, beings that are part of the SSP disclosure.
824
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I can attest those beings exist because they've been in
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00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:28.059
contact with me since years, but only in this year,
826
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I became aware of their presence and their communications on
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a more conscious way. And they are telling me that, yes,
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there is a lot of, there are a lot of
829
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groups of the SSP that are helping me, but the enemies,
830
00:51:42.269 --> 00:51:44.960
you know, the gray hybrids are creating and using a
831
00:51:44.980 --> 00:51:49.800
lot of these technological forms of sabotage to, place me
832
00:51:49.820 --> 00:51:52.260
in a bubble, kind of like the spider web program
833
00:51:52.940 --> 00:51:56.019
for whistleblowers, where they isolate you so that you don't
834
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get assistance and help and you don't get to spread
835
00:51:58.340 --> 00:52:01.360
your messages. They're kind of doing that. And not only that,
836
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but they're also blackmailing the groups of the SSP of
837
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things that they are, let's say, related or connected to,
838
00:52:09.489 --> 00:52:11.530
but that they're not guilty of, such as with the
839
00:52:11.610 --> 00:52:14.510
Epstein files. They're using the Epstein files to coerce them,
840
00:52:14.690 --> 00:52:17.429
many of them, which doesn't mean that they're guilty.
841
00:52:17.889 --> 00:52:19.920
And we're finding out that all the, basically all the,
842
00:52:20.030 --> 00:52:23.210
mostly all the politicians are guilty of the Epstein crimes,
843
00:52:23.250 --> 00:52:23.630
you know?
844
00:52:24.550 --> 00:52:26.159
Yes, but they were placed there as a form of
845
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:30.679
blackmail to have every single string of earth controlled. Just
846
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:33.559
because some of them, there are many beings that have
847
00:52:33.579 --> 00:52:36.059
been part of the Epstein files or that have been
848
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:39.400
forced to be involved in aspects of it without necessarily
849
00:52:39.500 --> 00:52:43.369
going to the aspects of trafficking. that were forced to
850
00:52:43.409 --> 00:52:47.070
do that, you know, by military higher-ups or hierarchies, you know,
851
00:52:47.110 --> 00:52:51.190
in this conflict. And that doesn't imply that you're guilty of,
852
00:52:51.329 --> 00:52:55.449
you know, the crimes committed there. Most importantly, what surprises
853
00:52:55.489 --> 00:52:58.269
me is that, as I shared in the very beginning,
854
00:52:59.030 --> 00:53:01.340
these beings are using inky ultra, the grey hybrids are
855
00:53:01.579 --> 00:53:04.900
using inky ultra too, and sacrifice and ritual abuse, but
856
00:53:04.940 --> 00:53:09.000
they are also part of sex trafficking.
857
00:53:09.019 --> 00:53:09.980
Yeah.
858
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.000
In the SSP. And I've seen that directly because I
859
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:17.719
have experienced that when they were blackmailing them and trying
860
00:53:17.780 --> 00:53:20.820
to make illegal forms of deals with my own consciousness.
861
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:22.039
Yeah.
862
00:53:22.460 --> 00:53:22.679
Yeah.
863
00:53:22.739 --> 00:53:26.219
That's interesting. Um, and, uh, let me see here. Um,
864
00:53:26.780 --> 00:53:31.920
let me see what other questions, uh, um, um, let
865
00:53:31.940 --> 00:53:35.550
me see here. Uh, I think that's all the questions.
866
00:53:35.570 --> 00:53:41.289
Let me see. Um, If anybody else has any questions,
867
00:53:41.329 --> 00:53:54.639
put them in the chat now. Someone wants to know,
868
00:53:54.659 --> 00:53:56.960
you have your own YouTube channel, right?
869
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.699
Yes. I do have a YouTube channel. It's Marina Saren.
870
00:54:01.780 --> 00:54:04.019
And I do a lot of lives also there. Yeah.
871
00:54:04.619 --> 00:54:04.840
Yeah.
872
00:54:05.510 --> 00:54:07.429
That's awesome. Do you want to tell people where they
873
00:54:07.469 --> 00:54:11.309
can find you? This was an awesome interview, Marina. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
874
00:54:11.710 --> 00:54:15.090
Yes, thank you. They can find me on my own website,
875
00:54:15.110 --> 00:54:20.579
which is www.marina.com. I mean, marinasaren.com. Then they can find
876
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.360
me on YouTube, Marina Saren, and then on Instagram with
877
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:25.679
Marina Saren with two Ns at the end.
878
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:28.320
All right. All right. Well, thank you, guys. And I'll
879
00:54:28.340 --> 00:54:30.800
be live later. I have Arkeem Ra coming on in
880
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:32.719
about an hour, and I will see you guys then.
881
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.280
And thank you, Marina. And good night, everyone.
882
00:54:35.300 --> 00:54:36.489
Thank you for having me here.
883
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All right.
884
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:37.039
Thanks.
885
00:54:37.059 --> 00:54:37.840
All right. Have a good night.