Mexico Unexplained Halloween Special: Cryptids, UFOs & the Supernatural - Robert Bitto - TSP # 2875

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Raise your frequency.
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Just one smile, one open heart And another soul starts
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walking Hey, hold the light Rock a little shining bright Hey,
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hold the light Keeping hope alive.
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Tonight Hey, hold the light Open the door like.
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views It's about people finding something true He roots for
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they're his too He's got your back, he's got your
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Believe golden frequency angelic light holding the line day and
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Vision Skeptic Podcast. Be sure to like, subscribe, and turn
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Sorry about that, guys. Yeah. I don't know what happened
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with that. It kept repeating over and over again. But
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we have an awesome show tonight. And that intro song
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was done by the amazing Christy Campbell. I wanted to
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give it a shout out because, I don't know, it
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was pretty nice that she made that. But tonight is
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what we have with us, amazing Robert Bitto of Mexico.
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I love when Robert comes on the show. He has
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the best information about Mexico and and what's going on there,
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the unexplained stuff, the supernatural, the cryptids, the paranormal, UFOs.
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And I wrote, Robert Bido, Mexico Unexplained, joins me for
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tonight for episode number 2875, Mexico Unexplained Halloween Special, Cryptids, UFOs,
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and the Supernatural. Join us for a Halloween season conversation
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about mysterious creatures, unexplained sightings, eerie legends, and supernatural encounters
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associated with Mexico. We'll explore the stories, consider the possible explanations,
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and discuss where the folklore eyewitness accounts and the unknown intersect.
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And you can expect Robert to bring a bang-up show.
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Even if we've talked about stuff we talked about before,
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it may be relevant for this season, for, like, the
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Halloween season. So, well, that said, like, welcome back to
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the show, Robert. Thanks so much for coming back on, man.
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How are you?
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I'm great. Thanks for having me on once again. It's
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always fun to talk to you.
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Yeah, absolutely, man. Like, it's, this is my favorite time
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of year, you know, believe it or not. Like, this is, like,
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I love this, you know, for whatever reason. Like, you know,
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I mean, I know they say a lot of satanic
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stuff happens during Halloween, but I try to, you know,
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have it for like the good stuff, like all the
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interesting supernatural stuff we can talk about and like all the,
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you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. That's
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where I'm at with it, you know?
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Yeah. And for me, my connection to Mexico is that
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I've owned a business for 27 years where I import stuff.
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And for those who don't know me, and then I've
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lived in Mexico twice before then. And right now I'm
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at the tail end. My voice is a little bit
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rough and I'm kind of, you know, maybe not my
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peppy self. I'm a little bit exhausted because the day
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of the dead season is my most popular season for
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my business. I sell a lot of supplies for the
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holiday and you know, arts and crafts related to the holiday.
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And today is the Tuesday before Day of the Dead.
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And so most people who are ordering from me, this
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is like their last day to get their stuff. So
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this is like, it's nice to be on the show
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with you tonight because this is like going to be
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the beginning of my week or so of relaxation before
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Christmas starts up again.
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Speaking of that, give me one second. I'm not going anywhere, Robert.
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It's going to take me two seconds. I got a surprise.
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Hold on one second.
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Okay.
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So this is, I wanted to find it first. Yeah,
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it was right on my shelf. Robert sent me this.
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He's talking about, so he's talking about Aldeo de los Muertos.
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This is perfect for this. And it's perfect for a
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show tonight. So this is an Aldeo de los Muertos skull.
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And you can see it's very interesting. And this is
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from Robert's shop. Robert sent this to me, you know,
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because he's my friend. We've been doing shows for a while.
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I love this. This is very nice. You can put
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it on your shelf. You can use this on your
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coffee table or whatever. It's really cool. I love it.
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What was weird is that the first one, he sent
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me the first one and it broke. It just fell
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off the shelf one day. Nothing provoked it or anything.
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It felt like it ghosted it or something. It was
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nice enough to send me another one.
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Well, you know what? I've I've imported probably, oh, I
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don't know, five to 600 of those, maybe up to
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a thousand of that size. And what people do with
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those is they put them on their home altars. They'll
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make an altar for the holiday and they'll put that
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on their home altar. And if you, if you have
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it still, do you have it still there? Yeah.
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If you, if you turn it upside down, you can
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see there's a, there's a hole for a candle. And
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you can put a candle in there and then there
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are some holes on the top of the skull. You
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can see there's like, yeah, openings. And then the light
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comes out of there. Oh, that's dope.
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See, I haven't done that. It's like, I haven't been
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able to find a candle to fit in here. You
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know what I mean? Like I have a candle here.
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This is like a sage candle, right? But it's like,
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it doesn't, it doesn't fit. You know what I mean?
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So like, I got to find a candle that like
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kind of perfectly fits in there.
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You know, like a little tea candle, you know, you
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can find them.
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In the dollar store or whatever. Look up a tea
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candle kind of?
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You can get it at the dollar store or something
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like that, yeah.
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Yeah, that's cool, yeah.
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So we're heading into that holiday season. And so, yeah,
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there's a lot to talk about about that holiday, about
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a lot of other things. You want to talk about ghosts, monsters,
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all that stuff. There's so many different... stories. And I
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have on my channel, I haven't been uploading lately because
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I've been involved in a lot of other projects. I
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will be uploading again in November regularly, but right now
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I'm like just, chopping up old shows and putting up
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clips and reels and stuff like that. But I have
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462 long form shows and a lot of clips and other,
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you know, little blips and stuff like that. And I
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feel like I'm just getting started, even though I've been
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doing this for 10 years because there's so much material. Yeah.
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I'll tell you where I found more traction. I had a,
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I had one real breakthrough on Instagram for like 178,000 views.
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It was with one I did with Juliet Angle on MKUltra.
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And then I had one reach 127,000 views recently with
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Carrie Cassidy. And then I had one I did with
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Penny Bradley reach 25,000 views. And those go to Facebook too,
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because when I post them to Instagram, it automatically goes
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to Facebook. So then I get, it like kind of
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combines the views. It takes the views I'm getting from
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Facebook and Instagram where I have more followers on Facebook,
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you know? but like, I can't get any traction with
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reels on YouTube. It's almost like me. I just, I mean,
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I only, I get like a hundred, 200 views. Whereas
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on Instagram, I get thousands or whatever. I don't know why.
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I don't know what it is, you know, but I mean,
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you know, that's where I've been.
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There's no understanding it. And there's gurus or whatever who say, yeah, Hey,
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I can make you a star just by doing reels and,
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and all this stuff. There's no rhyme or reason to it. Yeah.
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People will say, well, the algorithm favors this and that
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and other thing. No, you never know. I did, what
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was it? The other, like last month, I did a
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clip about a witch. Okay, the blood-sucking witch, the Tlawil Poochie.
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It was an old show that I did. It was
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maybe nine years ago. And I put a clip up
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there and it got, I don't know, 50,000 views. And
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it's like, why did this get one? And then there
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was another treasure story that I did, the lost treasure
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of Emperor Maximilian. And that got, I don't know, 100,000 views.
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My most popular one was I did a show about
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an eclipse. Well, during the eclipse that happened a few
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years ago, I did a show about what the ancient
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Mexicans thought of eclipses. On YouTube, it got maybe 2,000 views.
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But on Facebook, it got 2.5 million.
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Holy shit. I've never done anything like that. That's amazing.
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Yeah, that was crazy.
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And why?
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Someone explain to me why that happened. Nobody can.
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I think what it is is that, I mean, I
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don't want to give away all my tips, but I
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think for things to stand out, you have to have
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something that people are deeply interested in or could be
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deeply interested in. And to figure that out, it's hard
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to figure out. But I mean- you can kind of
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do research on that. But then I think what you
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need to do is you need to use the, the,
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the title maker, you know, you can, you can put
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text over it and you need to like, put like
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a real, like a, like a shocking title on the front. Like,
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you know, like, like the one that I got 178,000
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views on mine said shocking MK ultra discovery about MK
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ultra and Disneyland, Dr. Juliet angle. And I was like,
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and I wrote something like, if you're not awake, this
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will surprise you, you know? And I, maybe that caught
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people's attention. That's the only thing I can think of,
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but like, I can't make shit like that all the time.
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Cause I don't, I don't have videos like that all
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the time. You know what I mean? I just don't,
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you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. So,
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you know, I, I think it's all like, I think
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it's all, you know, yeah, yeah. I think that has
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something to do with it, you know, for real.
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In that, in your case, I think for that video,
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Disneyland could have been the, the, the hook there, you know,
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you mentioned Disneyland, you could get a lot of people
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who were just searching for that. I don't know. I mean,
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I'm just throwing things out there, but we just keep
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what we're doing. We keep doing what we're doing and
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hope for the best and all this stuff. And the
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bottom line is we do what we do because we
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really enjoy what we're doing.
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So we had a funny question from Derek. You'll remember
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this joke and this, you know, he's a good big
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fan here. So this is just a joke. He says, Hey,
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Robert Bitto, Mexican explainer of the feds been working yucks
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for this Halloween season. Remember that joke from the chat?
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Yeah. And that's not. Yeah. Because someone seriously can seriously
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accuse me of being a fed. And I think it
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was because, well, it's happened before in my life, a
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couple of times before that too, not related to YouTube
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or anything, but in this case, we were talking about
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how I was a tour guide down in Mexico and,
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at the pyramids at Teotihuacan. And I did that independently.
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I wasn't with, I wasn't, I was leading tours out
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of my retail store because 20 years ago I had
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a retail store in Phoenix, Arizona, and I would take
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people on tours in the summertime. And so I was
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mentioning how I was a tour guide and somebody was
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saying that I was parroting the official story and I would,
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You know, and I'm a plant and I'm a fed
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and all that stuff. And I was like, geez, I
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was doing that independently. I wasn't even, you know, but whatever.
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People will always think that, you know, you're a plant
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or a shill and who's a shill and who isn't
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and all that stuff. Just do your own thing. And
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that's what I do.
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Yeah, I agree. I agree.
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Yeah.
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So we're talking about like Halloween season. You know, this
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is like the time of the year when the veil
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is thinnest. You know, we're also talking about in Mexican culture,
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the Day of the Dead, Dia de los Muertos. There
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has to be a lot of stories in Mexico that
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center around this. And do the Mexican people celebrate Halloween
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or they just celebrate Day of the Dead? Or do
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they do both now since it's like Halloween's become like
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a cultural thing?
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Well, what's happened is there's a blend, a little bit
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of a blend now that's been happening over the past
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25 years or so, you know, in this century. The
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two holidays were separate. The only thing that they were
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related to or by was the Catholic calendar of All
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Saints Day, All Souls Day. Okay. The Aztecs had a
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death holiday that was in the spring. Okay. So it
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was like When things were coming alive again, they had
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this death holiday where they made skulls out of blood
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and cornmeal and stuff like that. A lot of the
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traditions have carried on. When the Spanish got there, they
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saw this festival and they said, well, we can't eliminate
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this stuff. We have to integrate it into our stuff.
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So they moved the holiday to November 1st. Now, fast
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forward to the 21st century. You have migration happening back
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and forth. The border is very fluid, as we know.
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And people born on this side of the border sometimes
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will spend summers or even like a year or two
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on the other side of the border. And there's a
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flowing cultural exchange. But trick-or-treating and stuff like that, that
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hasn't caught on there. Just some of the motifs... like
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jack-o'-lanterns and witches, that's Halloween. But for some reason, they
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are now part of the decor for the hanging paper
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called papel picado, the banners that you see. I was
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surprised when I got my batch for Day of the Dead.
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I think it was like 2003, 2004 from my store.
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I was unwrapping it. And there was like a jack-o'-lantern
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on the banner. And I'm like, what is, this isn't,
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this isn't day of the dead. This is Halloween. What
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are they doing?
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Some of the motifs have carried over, but not really
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the traditions. And then day of the dead is becoming
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more popular in the United States. And so that's why,
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I mean, most of the people who are buying the
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stuff that I'm selling now, um, Like I said, I've
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been in business 27 years since 1999. And most of
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the people are non-Mexicans who are buying this stuff. And
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some of them are buying the things because they think
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it's cool, the skeletons and stuff, you know, like the
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thing that I gave you. And then other people are
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actually celebrating the holiday, which is basically a holiday to
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welcome back the spirits to, you know, their earthly life. So, yeah.
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Where did you want to go first? I have some
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topics and some interesting stuff I thought of from your
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research that I can bring up. Or did you have
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somewhere you wanted to cover first?
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Well, if you want to talk about ghost stories, about
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creatures and stuff like that, we can do whatever. There
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are a lot of stories I can tell about ghosts
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and the typical Halloween stuff. that we could get into.
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And then also, something that's worth mentioning now is that
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three or four days ago, I don't know if you
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saw this, I posted it to my Facebook. I think
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it was three days ago. It was over the weekend
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where a trail cam outside of Juarez, a border town
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in northern Mexico, a border.
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What do you call it? No, a trail cam. I'm sorry.
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A trail camera caught an image of a chupacabra.
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No way!
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Yeah. You can... You can Google it. I have a
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still frame on my Facebook page.
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I'm going to look it up now. Yeah.
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And it's creepy. It doesn't look like it was AI generated.
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You can't really tell anymore these days, but it made
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the news. Jaime Maussan, even, you know, the great grandfather
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of the paranormal in Mexico. He even took a trip
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up there with an investigative team because it's one creepy creature. And,
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Some people were saying skeptics were saying that the release
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of this footage was kind of, it was a little
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too coincidental with the Patterson Gimlin film being debunked, you know,
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for Bigfoot, you know, that happened last week. Supposedly. I shit.
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I have my captions up. I gotta, I gotta figure
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out how to turn these captions off. Cause like, I
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can't access my other stuff. Wait, how do I do this?
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Let me figure out something. Oh, live caption off.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I want to, I want to share my screen. Hold on.
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Give me one second. I'm just going to see if
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this is it. Like, hold on. Okay. Let's see if
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I can share with audio. Okay. Yeah. That, that's what I,
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that's what came up. Is this one up here.
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On the left?
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Yeah.
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Yep. The one on the left. That's the, the one
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that was recent.
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Holy shit. Looks kind of real, you know?
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But if there is a way for you to click
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on it to play the video, then you'll see the
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way that it moves and stuff like that. It's pretty creepy.
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I'm not sure which one's a video, but I'll see this.
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It says trail cams in Juarez, Mexico. Wait a second.
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Is this it? I don't know if this is just a.
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It could be just a still. But there are videos
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out there. Because I pulled my still from one of
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the videos. And it's like 10 seconds or something, but
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it shows, you know, the creature moving.
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It says the trail cameras near the Texas border capture
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a pale hairless creature that researchers claim is carrying off
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chickens and rabbits. I can't get that. I don't know
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what it has the video. Let me see if this
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one does. Are these sharing too as I pull them up?
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Or like, is it just sharing?
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Yeah, we can see them. I can see it.
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Let me see if this is it can you see
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x right now loading is that was that what is
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it sharing every let me see if i.
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Can there's no nothing that's loading oh now it is
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uh let me see if this is uh okay.
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That's that sometimes this computer moves like this computer's new
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it shouldn't move slow honestly it really shouldn't like i
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need a whole new system honestly i mean um developing.
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Well it It could be your internet connection if there
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are a lot of people where you live and they're
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all using it now. Yeah, there. It's going to be
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a video, I guess. Oh, shit.
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Damn. Is that all we're going to.
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See of it? No, there should be more of it.
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That's like a nasty, ew. Holy shit. I mean, you know, honestly,
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that does not even look like AI. that just, Oh
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my God, it has claws and everything. That is, you know, okay.
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I think honestly, I think this is the time when
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the veil is thinnest. So I can absolutely see this happening.
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You guys know, I mean, I'm, I'm a skeptic, but
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I'm also, I want to believe, right? Like I want
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to believe that this stuff's all real.
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Right.
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So like to me, this, I would, I'd like to
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believe this is real. I'd love to see what the
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people in the audience think. We'll go to the chat
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in a second, but I just want to give you
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guys a few more, you know, seconds to take this in.
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Okay.
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So, Now we're going to go to the chat. We're
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going to stop sharing, and we're going to go to
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the chat. Let me know what you guys think. Do
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you think this is real? Before we get into more
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stories and stuff. And, yeah, let us know. Put your
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opinion in the chat so we can kind of pull
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some stuff up. And, you know, what do you think, Robert?
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What's your take on it? And you're a pretty big skeptic. Yeah.
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It could be an albino or a hairless raccoon, something
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like that. There are animals with mange or conditions where
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their hair falls out. And so it could be something
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like that. Or it could be an unknown creature that
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we haven't categorized yet, that we haven't properly identified. And that's,
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you know, the chupacabra is that. So the picture of it,
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I mean, the video of it looks like almost looks
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like the creature that I have on the cover of
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my coloring book, you know, for Mexican monsters. And it's,
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it's almost what other people have reported the Chupacabra looking like,
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except for the color, but the color could be the
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lighting or whatever, because it was a black and white
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trail cam. Right. Yeah. So, yeah. And the fact that
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it was stealing chickens and stuff like that, that's, that's
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the behavior of the Chupacabra. Yeah.
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Yeah. I'm wondering if the audience thought, because not many
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people responded to it. I thought people would respond to it.
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Like that was pretty, that was pretty interesting. I thought
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that was really cool. Like maybe, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah,
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but it's, it was very, I mean, like, I don't know.
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I don't know what, so ask, where was that reptile?
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It was a Chupacabra and it was in Juarez, Mexico, supposedly. So,
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you know, yeah, like, Let me see here. Okay, so
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we had a question from the audience. This is from
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Beth Noyes. She says, thoughts on Tokoloshe?
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I don't know what that is.
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Let me see.
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And I can, you know, I've been doing this for decades,
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and it doesn't mean that that doesn't exist, what she
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just said. I just don't know about it. I mean,
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and whatever that is, Tokoloshe, Tecolote, is that? Maybe Tecolote?
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It says it's a dwarf-like water sprite or goblin from
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Njui mythology in Zulu and Xhosa folklore in South Africa.
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Maybe that's why.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. That's not my expertise, but it sounds interesting. Yeah,
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I don't know anything about that.
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Do the Mexican people have something like that in their culture?
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I mean, you see this throughout all different cultures. In Ireland,
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we have the leprechaun. up in, uh, in new England,
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we have the, uh, the, uh, what's it called? Why
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can't I think of it? It's, um, the, uh, oh shit. It's,
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it's a, it's a, it's a little, oh man. It's, uh,
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when I'm thinking, when we're thinking of like little people,
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you know, I know there's the Cherokee little people. Um, and, uh,
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why can't I think of it? It's, uh, it's famous
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in the Bridgewater triangle. I talk, Pukwudgie, Pukwudgie, that's what
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it is. Yeah. It's the Pukwudgie. So like, There's like
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things of little people all over the world, you know?
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It's just, I think it's fascinating, you know?
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Yeah, and there are little people in Mexico too. And
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I've talked about that on your previous shows. And the
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most famous, well, there are two types, the Ilyush and
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the Cheneque. The Ilyush is in the Maya area and
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the Cheneque is in the central Mexico. And they're little people.
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much like elves or pixies and things like that. They're
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magical and everything. And during the construction of the Tren Maya,
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the Maya train that is going to connect all of
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the major archaeological sites, they're still building it. The president
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of Mexico went out there, and I think we might
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have talked about this on a show before, where the
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president of Mexico went out to inspect the progress of
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the train. And then people were like, what's that up
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in the tree? And they pointed up into the tree
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and there was a creature like a dwarf. Yeah. And
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you can go, you can go online much like what
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we just did with the Chupacabra. And you can put
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in president of Mexico and a loose a L U X.
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And then you'll see this creature in a tree and
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people took pictures. And then it disappeared. So, you know,
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what are these things? Yeah, really? Yeah.
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That's a good point.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's a really good point.
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Yeah.
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So we were going to kind of get into like,
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you talked about the ghosts, you said ghosts, there's some ghosts, good,
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cool ghost stories and stuff like that and monsters. And yeah,
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I'd love to get into that, you know?
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Well, there was one ghost that I actually looked for myself.
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Yeah.
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I went and I looked for this female ghost and,
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On the urgings of a psychic in New Zealand, because
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I had talked to, I was interviewed by her on
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her show, and then she said, I told her about
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this legend of the seven volcanoes. There's seven volcanoes that
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are in the shape of Ursa Major, the Big Dipper,
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in the southern part of the state of Guanajuato. They're
475
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called the Siete Luminarias, the Seven Luminaries. And their craters,
476
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some of them, most of them had water at one point,
477
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but most of them now are completely dry. And on
478
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her show, I talked about this legend of this ghost
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of an indigenous woman who has been seen floating between dimensions,
480
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floating and stuff. Any Star Trek fans out there will
481
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remember the episode, The Tholian Web, where Captain Kirk was
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in some space suit and they went on another starship
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that was fading in and out. The Defiant, I think.
484
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The USS Defiant. And then Captain Kirk got trapped between dimensions.
485
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And then he was appearing in his space suit in
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Lieutenant Uhura's mirror. And then she freaked out and went
487
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into the hallway. Spock, Spock, I've seen Captain Kirk. Well,
488
00:30:45.089 --> 00:30:48.569
this is kind of a similar thing where this woman
489
00:30:48.670 --> 00:30:53.759
is supposedly caught between dimensions. And she appears on the
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trail of going into this crate, one of the craters.
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called La Alberca, which means basically the swimming pool. Because
492
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it was once filled with a lot of water. Now,
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because the population around the craters has gone down or
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has gone up, the water level has gone down. And
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so there's almost no water in this place that was
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once called the swimming pool. But I went out there
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and I went looking for this spirit because she supposedly
498
00:31:25.529 --> 00:31:29.240
goes up to hikers and And she's either like floating
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00:31:29.299 --> 00:31:33.849
in the air, like in like between dimensions or she's
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00:31:33.930 --> 00:31:38.890
more physical and she's pleading with people and saying things
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00:31:38.970 --> 00:31:42.769
in a language that no one understands. And I went
502
00:31:42.809 --> 00:31:46.130
looking for her, but I couldn't find her. But I
503
00:31:46.190 --> 00:31:50.619
did talk to the tour guides and they said that, yes,
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00:31:50.690 --> 00:31:53.119
there have been sightings of that woman there in this
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00:31:53.220 --> 00:31:54.299
mysterious crater.
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That's so interesting. Like, I don't even, wow. Holy shit.
507
00:32:01.309 --> 00:32:06.630
Like, that's not, you know, there is a ghost that's
508
00:32:06.690 --> 00:32:10.450
very similar to that found in the Mexico city subway system.
509
00:32:11.339 --> 00:32:15.400
Now the subway system in Mexico city is just crazy.
510
00:32:15.940 --> 00:32:19.579
I mean, for 25 cents, like five pesos or whatever,
511
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:24.920
you can go anywhere pretty much in the city. And they're,
512
00:32:25.940 --> 00:32:30.119
In the heart of the city, which the main plots
513
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:36.640
of the Zocalo, there's a line that goes underneath there, right?
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00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.440
And that was the heart of the Aztec capital, Tenochtitlan.
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00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:48.329
People have said that they've seen an Aztec man, sometimes
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00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:53.470
dressed as a warrior, a jaguar warrior, all decked out
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00:32:53.529 --> 00:32:58.920
in regalia, sometimes dressed in a common person's tunic and
518
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:03.539
he seems lost. He needs to get back. Sometimes he's crying.
519
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:08.299
He's sad that the city has turned into what it is.
520
00:33:09.299 --> 00:33:15.240
And sometimes he has actual conversations with people. Unlike the
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00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.039
woman at the Siete Luminarias, at that old volcano, nobody
522
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.759
can understand that woman. But this warrior, this Aztec warrior,
523
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:29.839
A lot of people don't realize that the Aztec language, Nahuatl,
524
00:33:30.500 --> 00:33:35.660
is spoken by 1.2 million people now. More than it
525
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.930
was 500 years ago when the Aztec empire was at
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00:33:38.990 --> 00:33:42.170
its height. So there are more speakers now than there
527
00:33:42.190 --> 00:33:47.750
were 500 years ago. And so, yeah, some Mexicans in
528
00:33:47.809 --> 00:33:52.160
Mexico City in the subway have had conversations with this ghost.
529
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:59.380
supposedly in the, the old language and he's lost. He's upset,
530
00:33:59.980 --> 00:34:03.970
sometimes crying, telling people sometimes that he has to go
531
00:34:04.029 --> 00:34:08.050
back to fight and, you know, so on. But the
532
00:34:08.110 --> 00:34:13.230
subway is full of crazy stuff. There's another, there's stories
533
00:34:13.269 --> 00:34:21.280
of vampires, weird creatures. There's this story on the yellow line. The, the,
534
00:34:21.860 --> 00:34:27.280
The lines are divided by colors because it's easy for
535
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:31.400
people who can't read or whatever, they can navigate by
536
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.570
the colors of the lines, of the subway lines. And
537
00:34:35.610 --> 00:34:38.030
I think it's on the yellow line where there's a
538
00:34:38.210 --> 00:34:43.090
closed off tunnel and there's supposedly like a rat man
539
00:34:43.210 --> 00:34:49.389
who lives there. And what the sightings have been have
540
00:34:49.429 --> 00:34:54.719
been of Rats like the size of pigs. Holy shit. Right.
541
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.940
There was even a story in the 80s of a
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00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.980
little girl who got attacked and killed by one of
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00:35:02.019 --> 00:35:02.820
these creatures.
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00:35:03.420 --> 00:35:03.800
Wow.
545
00:35:04.050 --> 00:35:07.889
And yeah, they don't know what it is. There's a
546
00:35:07.949 --> 00:35:10.730
lot of legends around it. I mean, it's developed into
547
00:35:10.750 --> 00:35:17.250
the rat man, you know. But there are supposedly ferocious,
548
00:35:17.389 --> 00:35:21.309
gigantic rats that are living down there. Is it a legend?
549
00:35:21.389 --> 00:35:24.909
Is it real? Well, you know, like the Chupacabra, this
550
00:35:25.030 --> 00:35:28.210
could be one that could actually be real. There could
551
00:35:28.250 --> 00:35:31.880
be gigantic rats down there that are huge. That could
552
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.440
attack a little girl and kill a little girl. But
553
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.820
speaking of little girls, there's a little girl ghost on
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00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.909
one of the lines. I think she's by the Garibaldi station,
555
00:35:44.929 --> 00:35:50.360
if I'm correct. I might be mistaken. But There's a
556
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.280
little girl who appears as a phantom, but then she
557
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.809
materializes into a full person. She's about eight years old,
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and she bounces a red ball. And sometimes people will
559
00:36:03.969 --> 00:36:07.650
catch the ball, and then they will try to throw
560
00:36:07.690 --> 00:36:11.929
it back to her, and she's gone. She disappeared. And
561
00:36:11.949 --> 00:36:15.340
in some cases, the ball turns into the head of
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00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:16.159
the little girl.
563
00:36:16.179 --> 00:36:17.500
Oh, shit.
564
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:25.530
I know. I know, imagine that, right? That's the same. Yeah,
565
00:36:25.670 --> 00:36:29.130
there's even a story of a vampire who lives down
566
00:36:30.110 --> 00:36:34.670
in the subway system. And one guy, I guess he
567
00:36:34.710 --> 00:36:39.050
had supposedly fallen asleep and the subway went to the
568
00:36:39.130 --> 00:36:42.929
end of the line. And one of the ends of
569
00:36:42.969 --> 00:36:49.920
the lines is at a place called Barranca de Muerto. Okay, muerto,
570
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:54.880
we know that word, right? Death. Barranca is like a ravine.
571
00:36:55.780 --> 00:37:00.760
And so this station was built next to where they
572
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.519
found a mass grave. The mass grave didn't go back
573
00:37:04.579 --> 00:37:08.550
to like colonial times or, you know, Aztec times or anything.
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00:37:09.050 --> 00:37:12.050
It went back to the revolution, which was in the
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00:37:12.230 --> 00:37:15.590
first part of the 20th century, you know, like a
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00:37:15.650 --> 00:37:18.289
hundred years, a little over a hundred years ago. They
577
00:37:18.309 --> 00:37:21.610
shot all these people, firing squad, they dumped them in
578
00:37:21.670 --> 00:37:25.409
a ditch. And then they covered it all up. And
579
00:37:25.449 --> 00:37:28.949
then it was discovered when they were building the subway.
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00:37:29.329 --> 00:37:33.630
And so they called this, I mean, it's a morbid
581
00:37:33.710 --> 00:37:37.030
name and everything, but they call the subway station Barranca
582
00:37:37.090 --> 00:37:42.769
de Muerto, Ditch of the Dead. And supposedly someone fell
583
00:37:42.829 --> 00:37:47.280
asleep and then woke up at that station all alone
584
00:37:48.219 --> 00:37:52.400
and witnessed a vampire attacking somebody else who was in
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00:37:52.460 --> 00:37:54.460
a tunnel. Holy shit.
586
00:37:54.659 --> 00:37:54.880
Yeah.
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And then he went to the police station. They ridiculed
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00:38:01.460 --> 00:38:04.019
him or whatever. And then other people started to see
589
00:38:04.059 --> 00:38:10.449
this vampire. So, you know, and that's very Halloween, right?
590
00:38:11.170 --> 00:38:11.670
Oh, yeah.
591
00:38:11.929 --> 00:38:14.429
I mean, what do you think? Do you think vampires exist? No,
592
00:38:14.489 --> 00:38:15.619
I just proved that when I was 12 years old.
593
00:38:19.610 --> 00:38:23.019
I disproved the existence of vampires when I was 12
594
00:38:23.019 --> 00:38:27.239
years old in a logic unit in my honors math class,
595
00:38:27.980 --> 00:38:34.380
middle school, because we were learning about exponentiation. And I said, okay,
596
00:38:34.420 --> 00:38:38.199
then if a vampire has to bite two people, and
597
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:42.389
then those two people turn into vampires, and then I
598
00:38:42.449 --> 00:38:45.130
figured out that there are how many billion people in
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00:38:45.170 --> 00:38:49.800
the world, this was what, 1980, right? yeah um and
600
00:38:49.900 --> 00:38:53.960
i said vampires don't exist because if if a vampire
601
00:38:53.980 --> 00:38:57.099
has to to bite two vamp two people and they
602
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.719
turn into vampires the whole world will be vampires within
603
00:39:00.780 --> 00:39:02.139
three and a half weeks.
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00:39:02.579 --> 00:39:08.190
Yeah but but i love that i love that i
605
00:39:08.210 --> 00:39:10.329
agree with that but they're there could they could have
606
00:39:10.750 --> 00:39:12.809
you know ways or like they could be getting blood
607
00:39:12.869 --> 00:39:16.250
from uh goats and pigs and cows and stuff oh
608
00:39:16.289 --> 00:39:19.909
never now maybe they've changed you know also or or
609
00:39:20.090 --> 00:39:22.570
um what was i gonna say yeah um yeah i
610
00:39:22.610 --> 00:39:24.599
don't know i don't know i mean let's see if.
611
00:39:24.579 --> 00:39:27.659
You use the strict definition of a vampire then in
612
00:39:27.699 --> 00:39:30.449
three and a half weeks we'll all be vampires But
613
00:39:30.510 --> 00:39:34.059
you're right about the animals. And that is a great
614
00:39:34.139 --> 00:39:40.320
segue to another story in Guadalajara, different city, not Mexico City, Guadalajara,
615
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:45.099
the second largest, well, not anymore. I think Monterrey has
616
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.820
overtaken Guadalajara. But historically, that was like Mexico's number two city.
617
00:39:50.510 --> 00:39:54.179
there was a cemetery there that has a lot of
618
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.739
creepy stuff. And I was there at that cemetery and
619
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.219
there was this tree, this massive tree.
620
00:40:01.900 --> 00:40:04.760
That was, that.
621
00:40:03.820 --> 00:40:07.260
Was the roots were like growing over this tomb. And
622
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:12.050
I asked somebody what's with that. And it was the,
623
00:40:12.309 --> 00:40:18.539
the tomb was surrounded by these like, um, this wrought iron,
624
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.739
black wrought iron fence and everything. And I'm like, there's
625
00:40:21.780 --> 00:40:23.940
got to be a story to that. What's the story
626
00:40:23.980 --> 00:40:27.599
to that? Oh, that's where the vampire is. And we
627
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.679
got to be careful because, you know, one day he may,
628
00:40:31.110 --> 00:40:33.849
may get loose and there's nothing that we're going to
629
00:40:33.869 --> 00:40:36.460
be able to do, be, you know, to do about it.
630
00:40:36.849 --> 00:40:38.849
I'm going to take my family away from here when
631
00:40:38.909 --> 00:40:41.969
that day happens. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait
632
00:40:42.010 --> 00:40:42.489
a minute now.
633
00:40:42.969 --> 00:40:43.340
Okay.
634
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.340
Slow down. And I said, okay, tell me the story.
635
00:40:47.170 --> 00:40:50.590
So then the guy told me the story that sometime
636
00:40:50.630 --> 00:40:54.590
in the 1800s, recent history, not like long, long ago,
637
00:40:56.349 --> 00:41:01.449
there were animals that were found, what do they call
638
00:41:01.469 --> 00:41:05.369
the word, exsanguinated. All the blood was sucked out of them.
639
00:41:05.869 --> 00:41:13.070
House cats, dogs, chickens, things like that. And then there
640
00:41:13.090 --> 00:41:17.030
were little kids. that were found dead with the blood
641
00:41:17.110 --> 00:41:20.070
sucked out of them. So what the people did is
642
00:41:20.809 --> 00:41:26.309
they rounded up, they rounded up a group of men
643
00:41:26.809 --> 00:41:32.860
who looked the part of a vampire. Okay. Very pale complected,
644
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:39.019
the widow's peak, you know, all the black hair, very pale.
645
00:41:39.659 --> 00:41:44.159
So they, The townsfolk at the time rounded up all
646
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.139
the people that they thought could have been the vampire
647
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:50.760
just based on their looks. And then they all came
648
00:41:50.820 --> 00:41:54.070
to a consensus and they pointed to this one guy
649
00:41:54.090 --> 00:41:58.050
and said, he's the vampire. He looks most likely like
650
00:41:58.110 --> 00:42:01.909
a classic vampire. So let's kill him. And so they
651
00:42:01.949 --> 00:42:02.630
killed the guy.
652
00:42:02.650 --> 00:42:05.150
Yeah, I know.
653
00:42:05.809 --> 00:42:09.210
Then they put him in this tomb. Okay. And they
654
00:42:09.289 --> 00:42:11.949
planted a tree on the tomb. I don't know why
655
00:42:12.010 --> 00:42:19.360
they did that. But then, mysteriously, all of the blood
656
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:24.679
sucking had stopped. So they were right, I guess. That's
657
00:42:24.780 --> 00:42:26.800
what the conclusion.
658
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:26.699
Is, right?
659
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.019
Or the vampire moved on and thought it was safe
660
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:33.889
to move on now that they had somebody, right? So
661
00:42:34.989 --> 00:42:42.019
this tomb, though, the guy said, The guy said that, remember,
662
00:42:42.059 --> 00:42:45.320
the guy said that there is a possibility that the
663
00:42:45.380 --> 00:42:50.010
vampire will escape. Well, that tree is grabbing, the roots
664
00:42:50.070 --> 00:42:54.809
are grabbing the lid of that tomb, that sarcophagus. And
665
00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:58.650
once the roots get under there and there's a gap,
666
00:42:59.590 --> 00:43:03.090
then they believe that the vampire is going to escape
667
00:43:03.650 --> 00:43:08.630
and is going to wreak havoc. in modern-day Guadalajara, and
668
00:43:08.670 --> 00:43:12.880
there's nothing that anyone can do about it. So that's
669
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.739
a very interesting story. From that cemetery, there are quite
670
00:43:16.780 --> 00:43:19.639
a few other stories. There's one that's one of the
671
00:43:19.699 --> 00:43:25.050
most popular ghost stories in all of Mexico, and that's
672
00:43:25.110 --> 00:43:28.650
the story of Nachito. And he was a little boy
673
00:43:28.670 --> 00:43:33.730
who died. He died of a heart attack. He was
674
00:43:33.780 --> 00:43:37.550
like eight years old, and he died of fright. And
675
00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:43.250
he was afraid of thunderstorms, okay? And his parents would keep,
676
00:43:44.469 --> 00:43:47.190
and he was afraid of the dark too, okay? He's
677
00:43:47.210 --> 00:43:50.550
afraid of the dark, afraid of thunderstorms, whatever. So his
678
00:43:50.610 --> 00:43:55.320
parents would have two torches burning outside his bedroom so
679
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:58.340
that it would be light. And during a storm, the
680
00:43:58.409 --> 00:44:01.659
torches blew out. There was lots of lightning. It was dark, whatever.
681
00:44:02.099 --> 00:44:04.099
And then the kid got so scared that he had
682
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.179
a heart attack. And the parents came in the next
683
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.449
morning and he was dead, right? So they took him
684
00:44:10.489 --> 00:44:13.750
to the cemetery and they buried him. And then the
685
00:44:13.829 --> 00:44:19.489
next day, the coffin was exhumed. The coffin was on
686
00:44:19.510 --> 00:44:23.239
the surface. And then they were like, who did this?
687
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:25.679
This is terrible. Who would dig up the coffin of
688
00:44:25.739 --> 00:44:28.820
a little boy? And then so they buried him again.
689
00:44:28.940 --> 00:44:33.929
And then the very next day, The next morning, the
690
00:44:33.969 --> 00:44:39.199
coffin was out of the ground again. And then someone said, well,
691
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:42.659
because Nachito was so afraid of the dark, he doesn't
692
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:48.079
want to be underground. So they made an above-ground tomb
693
00:44:48.179 --> 00:44:52.809
like the vampire, an above-ground tomb for this little kid.
694
00:44:53.690 --> 00:44:58.250
And it's a bizarre thing because some people treat this
695
00:44:58.309 --> 00:45:02.159
little boy like a saint. They'll come and bring offerings
696
00:45:02.260 --> 00:45:06.860
and candles and coins and little toys and stuff and
697
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:11.480
ask him to intercede. Because throughout Mexico, there's this belief
698
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:17.860
that anybody who's dead, even animals, dead animals. There's a
699
00:45:17.909 --> 00:45:23.530
story about a horse in the Texas-Mexico border, a ghost
700
00:45:23.590 --> 00:45:28.139
horse that people bring offerings to. But that's getting off.
701
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:34.800
this story here about Nachito. So people will bring him things,
702
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.500
ask him for favors, whatever. There have even been ghost
703
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:43.679
hunter shows from the United States that have gone down
704
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:49.630
to that Santa Paula cemetery in Guadalajara because people have
705
00:45:49.730 --> 00:45:56.010
seen ghosts. People have seen balloons that are like, You know,
706
00:45:56.230 --> 00:45:59.070
like they're being held by a little boy and they're
707
00:45:59.110 --> 00:46:03.300
walking and they hear voices and things like that. And
708
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:08.019
I think there was one ghost show that actually did
709
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.219
get something on their meters, you know, that measure for
710
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paranormal activity. But that's a huge, that's a huge like
711
00:46:18.750 --> 00:46:23.610
pilgrimage site. And there's a holiday, you know, we have
712
00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:27.320
Mother's Day and Father's Day in America. They also, in Mexico,
713
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.719
they have Children's Day. And I think it's sometime in April.
714
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.300
And that's when a lot of people go and visit
715
00:46:34.340 --> 00:46:38.880
that tomb. And it's usually covered in toys. And they
716
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:43.889
take the, excuse me, they take the toys and they,
717
00:46:43.909 --> 00:46:47.550
you know, divvy them up among the hospitals and stuff
718
00:46:47.570 --> 00:46:52.110
for kids and things. So. But yeah, that's a, that's
719
00:46:52.150 --> 00:46:55.110
an interesting story. And that's like, that's like one of
720
00:46:55.150 --> 00:47:00.030
the most famous ghost stories in Mexico, but the most
721
00:47:00.110 --> 00:47:05.639
famous sort of spooky story is about the mannequin that
722
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:07.940
comes to life. No way.
723
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:08.639
Yeah.
724
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People are bugging me for years. I'm like, I'm going
725
00:47:11.940 --> 00:47:13.530
to get to it. I'm going to get to it.
726
00:47:14.139 --> 00:47:16.840
People are bugging me for years to do a story
727
00:47:16.900 --> 00:47:23.980
about this mannequin in, um, in this dress shop that
728
00:47:24.059 --> 00:47:27.760
still exists in Chihuahua City, in the state of Chihuahua.
729
00:47:28.619 --> 00:47:34.159
And the mannequin is called La Pascualita, and it's in
730
00:47:34.230 --> 00:47:41.659
the dress shop called La Popular. And in the early 1940s,
731
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the mannequin appeared in the window, and it was wearing
732
00:47:45.889 --> 00:47:49.960
a wedding dress. And some people were saying that The
733
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:55.199
mannequin was really the mummified daughter of the owner of
734
00:47:55.219 --> 00:48:01.150
the shop who mysteriously died on her wedding night. So
735
00:48:01.730 --> 00:48:05.429
people think that this is really a mummy and not
736
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a mannequin. And then all these stories have sprung up
737
00:48:11.130 --> 00:48:14.969
around it. In the 1950s, there was a fortune teller
738
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from India who said, was living in Chihuahua City. And
739
00:48:21.449 --> 00:48:26.559
he supposedly broke into the shop one night and cast
740
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:30.440
a spell on the mannequin. And then the mannequin now
741
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:34.699
comes to life because of this spell. And what he
742
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:40.110
was doing was leaving the store with this mannequin at night.
743
00:48:40.849 --> 00:48:45.389
And people were accusing this Hindu guy, this guy from India,
744
00:48:46.130 --> 00:48:50.289
they were accusing him Of using her in satanic rituals.
745
00:48:50.909 --> 00:48:54.929
There was even a lawsuit. Filed against the store. To
746
00:48:54.969 --> 00:48:58.889
get rid of the mannequin. Because people were afraid. That
747
00:48:59.510 --> 00:49:04.219
it was. It was involved. In these demonic rituals. And
748
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:04.989
stuff like that.
749
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:10.780
No go ahead. This is kind of off topic. But
750
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:12.679
it's kind of on topic. Do you remember that movie
751
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.719
from 1987. I had to look it up. Because I
752
00:49:15.739 --> 00:49:16.800
couldn't remember the lady's name.
753
00:49:16.820 --> 00:49:17.380
But it was called.
754
00:49:17.449 --> 00:49:20.159
A mannequin and it was with andrew mccarthy and kim
755
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:23.579
cattrall where it's it's just like it's just like you
756
00:49:23.619 --> 00:49:26.219
said like except it wasn't it was like in america
757
00:49:26.260 --> 00:49:28.800
and it's like a comedy right but like kim cattrall's
758
00:49:28.860 --> 00:49:31.079
a manic i mean there's a mannequin in a store
759
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.530
and somehow she turns into kim cattrall she comes alive
760
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.420
But it's funny because it's like in a store, like
761
00:49:36.460 --> 00:49:38.780
you said, and like, you know, I wonder if they
762
00:49:38.820 --> 00:49:42.059
got the theme for that movie from this story, you know,
763
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that you're telling.
764
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:47.500
I think I remember that. I think Starship, you know,
765
00:49:47.539 --> 00:49:50.469
they did the song for that.
766
00:49:51.269 --> 00:49:53.409
I love that song. Yeah.
767
00:49:53.949 --> 00:49:57.989
So anyway, that was the weird piece of trivia. No,
768
00:49:58.030 --> 00:50:03.320
but okay. So then this mannequin, the, The Indian guy
769
00:50:03.380 --> 00:50:07.150
tried to burn the mannequin and nothing happened to it.
770
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:13.440
And supposedly then he fled the city because pressure was
771
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.619
on him. They were going to lynch him or whatever.
772
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:22.360
And then supposedly the mannequin now, if you are a
773
00:50:22.420 --> 00:50:27.480
bad person and you walk by the mannequin, her eyes
774
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.460
will follow you. And that indicates that you're a bad person,
775
00:50:31.500 --> 00:50:36.010
that you have something to hide. And the mannequin, that
776
00:50:36.030 --> 00:50:40.710
mannequin is still in the shop window. It's 2026. So
777
00:50:40.750 --> 00:50:43.650
that's been there for like 85 years or more.
778
00:50:44.170 --> 00:50:45.230
Holy shit.
779
00:50:45.530 --> 00:50:48.570
Yeah, in the same shop. I mean, it's amazing that
780
00:50:48.590 --> 00:50:52.489
a business is around that long. Actually, that's what I'm
781
00:50:52.530 --> 00:50:57.110
thinking from a business perspective. But yeah, that probably the
782
00:50:57.170 --> 00:51:03.059
story of, La Pascualita, this mannequin, that's probably the most
783
00:51:03.179 --> 00:51:10.090
famous kind of paranormal story in the whole country, tied
784
00:51:10.130 --> 00:51:15.469
to a specific spot. Now, there are two other stories
785
00:51:15.670 --> 00:51:19.230
we've talked about before. The Llorona, you know, the woman
786
00:51:19.289 --> 00:51:23.010
who drowns her two children and then goes looking for
787
00:51:23.050 --> 00:51:27.110
them because she regrets doing that. And that story is
788
00:51:27.190 --> 00:51:30.750
found throughout Mexico, okay, and then in parts of the Southwest.
789
00:51:31.949 --> 00:51:34.710
So that's one of those stories where you can hear
790
00:51:34.750 --> 00:51:38.289
it everywhere. Pascualito, that's tied to that dress shop. It's
791
00:51:38.329 --> 00:51:43.840
like one location. Then there's another vein of stories that
792
00:51:43.980 --> 00:51:53.389
you hear not only in Mexico, but in the Hispanic Southwest. Phoenix, Tucson, Albuquerque.
793
00:51:55.139 --> 00:51:58.940
it's a weird story where a handsome man shows up
794
00:51:59.099 --> 00:52:04.389
at a dance. Okay. And he's dancing around and whatever.
795
00:52:04.730 --> 00:52:07.389
And one of his boots comes off and it's a
796
00:52:07.510 --> 00:52:12.550
cloven hoof, you know, his legs are, are goats feet,
797
00:52:12.869 --> 00:52:17.110
you know, and it turns out he's the devil and, and,
798
00:52:17.349 --> 00:52:21.400
you know, and then starts causing mayhem at the dance hall.
799
00:52:22.179 --> 00:52:25.739
And it's supposed to caution you that, You can't have
800
00:52:25.820 --> 00:52:30.449
too much fun or there are inherent evils in having
801
00:52:30.510 --> 00:52:34.250
too much fun, right? And so this story, I mean,
802
00:52:34.309 --> 00:52:39.000
it's amazing. You can go to Tucson, go to any
803
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:43.500
place where there's a big Hispanic population, and they will
804
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.719
tell you, oh, yeah, my grandma told me a story
805
00:52:46.780 --> 00:52:50.300
when she was a teenager. There was this thing happened,
806
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:54.860
El Diablo, the devil appeared at a dance hall. And
807
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.260
it's weird because every community, it seems like has that story.
808
00:52:59.340 --> 00:53:02.000
Where does it come from? Yeah, really?
809
00:53:02.019 --> 00:53:02.780
That's a good point.
810
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:03.139
Yeah.
811
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I mean, that's true.
812
00:53:04.179 --> 00:53:07.519
I mean, it sounds like like Mexico is like rich
813
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.380
with like amazing paranormal stories. I mean, I'm sure we
814
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:12.619
have that here in the U S but like, it's, it's,
815
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it's something different about the story. The stories from Mexico
816
00:53:15.650 --> 00:53:18.750
hit different. That's why I love like, like what you
817
00:53:18.769 --> 00:53:21.210
do with your channel because like, there's something about the
818
00:53:21.269 --> 00:53:23.570
Mexican call. Like I love their culture already. I think
819
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they have an amazing culture, you know, but like the,
820
00:53:26.340 --> 00:53:28.739
that when it comes to like the supernatural and paranormal
821
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.639
with Mexico, it's just fascinating. That's why I think you
822
00:53:31.659 --> 00:53:33.699
have such a good thing going with your channel because like,
823
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:36.579
I think it's so interesting. Like I find it, I
824
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:39.380
find it all so interesting, you know, I really do.
825
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I don't know why I just, I just find it amazing.
826
00:53:42.340 --> 00:53:44.840
You know, it's like, yeah, I don't know. Like, I mean,
827
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And a lot of these stories, you won't hear stuff
828
00:53:48.030 --> 00:53:50.409
like this in the U.S., you know, for whatever reason. Like,
829
00:53:50.769 --> 00:53:53.849
you know, it seems like more weird supernatural stuff happens
830
00:53:53.909 --> 00:53:57.630
in Mexico, you know? Or maybe they're more superstitious, so
831
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they're more tied to, like, folklore and, you know, I
832
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don't know.
833
00:54:01.269 --> 00:54:06.210
There are two things going on. There's a greater tendency
834
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to believe, okay? Like, everything from the Virgin Mary appearing
835
00:54:12.309 --> 00:54:18.130
on a tortilla, you know, to... to like a creature
836
00:54:18.469 --> 00:54:21.510
that lives in some cave outside of town, there is
837
00:54:21.530 --> 00:54:25.789
a tendency to believe. Whereas in the United States, the
838
00:54:25.829 --> 00:54:29.269
Virgin Mary, not tortilla. God, these people are just dumb,
839
00:54:29.869 --> 00:54:34.219
you know? So down there, there's more of a tendency
840
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:39.099
to believe there's more of this attitude that anything's possible. Okay.
841
00:54:39.739 --> 00:54:42.920
And I'm more of a skeptic, you know, And I
842
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.139
tend not to believe a lot of times. But down there,
843
00:54:46.179 --> 00:54:49.389
there's this sense that they want to believe and the
844
00:54:49.429 --> 00:54:53.409
world is a magical place. And then there's another dimension
845
00:54:53.469 --> 00:54:57.489
there that there have been cultures there that have been
846
00:54:57.750 --> 00:55:02.789
unbroken for thousands of years. So the Spanish arrived and
847
00:55:02.829 --> 00:55:10.050
they encountered living complex cultures that had beliefs that We're
848
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:15.429
in the area for 2,000, 3,000 years. So there are
849
00:55:15.449 --> 00:55:20.469
a lot of stories because we know. I mean, fine,
850
00:55:20.550 --> 00:55:24.309
North America had plenty of people before the Europeans came.
851
00:55:25.010 --> 00:55:28.989
But a lot of that, most of it, 99% of
852
00:55:29.010 --> 00:55:33.530
it is lost. But with the Spanish, they documented a
853
00:55:33.570 --> 00:55:36.199
lot of stuff. And then because there was a huge
854
00:55:36.260 --> 00:55:39.500
indigenous population that did not get killed off or did
855
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:42.800
not get moved or did not die off from disease
856
00:55:42.860 --> 00:55:46.539
or whatever, that integrated with the Spanish, a lot of that,
857
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:49.929
a lot of the folklore just passed down naturally through
858
00:55:49.969 --> 00:55:54.670
the generations. So you have thousands of stories, you know,
859
00:55:54.730 --> 00:55:57.690
and some of them go back a long, long time.
860
00:55:58.670 --> 00:56:01.889
Wow. Holy shit. What about the, I did have some
861
00:56:01.909 --> 00:56:03.969
notes here that I took. Let me see. I, I,
862
00:56:04.389 --> 00:56:06.699
One was about the, have you ever heard, I know
863
00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:09.920
you've probably heard of this, the story of the goat sorcerer,
864
00:56:09.940 --> 00:56:12.599
the Hoya Chivo. Did we talk about this before?
865
00:56:12.619 --> 00:56:14.900
The Hoya Chivo, yeah. I have a show on that.
866
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:22.079
And that's, yeah, it's a shapeshifter, basically, in the Maya area.
867
00:56:22.969 --> 00:56:27.590
And the construction workers who were building a road thought
868
00:56:27.630 --> 00:56:31.250
that they saw one dead on the side of the road.
869
00:56:31.860 --> 00:56:34.579
And the body was taken away by the government, and
870
00:56:34.619 --> 00:56:39.320
nobody saw the creature again. So it's like a half man,
871
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:47.760
half goat. Wei is like a man in the local
872
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:51.820
Yucatan dialect. And then chivo is goat. So it's like
873
00:56:51.860 --> 00:56:56.110
a big man goat. But that's one of the shape-shifting
874
00:56:56.179 --> 00:57:02.090
creatures that we see down there. So there are a
875
00:57:02.130 --> 00:57:07.039
couple of them that have existed or been in the
876
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:13.440
folklore for thousands of years. Wow.
877
00:57:13.539 --> 00:57:16.579
Did the Spanish bring any of this with them? Or
878
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.699
is a lot of this from the indigenous native Mexican culture,
879
00:57:20.739 --> 00:57:21.239
would you say?
880
00:57:21.420 --> 00:57:22.840
The whole idea of a vampire, that's really European. The
881
00:57:22.940 --> 00:57:32.469
vampire who got lynched the supposed vampire, you know, that,
882
00:57:33.230 --> 00:57:37.889
that sort of story is very European. There are, there
883
00:57:37.909 --> 00:57:43.300
are blood sucking witches that exist in ancient folklore, you know,
884
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:47.539
but the Spanish came with their things and there was
885
00:57:47.579 --> 00:57:52.340
a big blend, you know? So right now, what we're
886
00:57:52.380 --> 00:57:57.369
dealing with is a blend of European and indigenous and also,
887
00:57:58.789 --> 00:58:03.050
It's very important not to neglect the African influence, because
888
00:58:03.090 --> 00:58:05.409
when you go to Mexico, you don't see Black people.
889
00:58:06.090 --> 00:58:10.730
And a lot of them had integrated in this melting
890
00:58:10.809 --> 00:58:14.070
pot of Mexico many centuries ago. But some of the
891
00:58:14.110 --> 00:58:18.949
beliefs have carried through. There is one story called La
892
00:58:18.989 --> 00:58:23.809
Mulata de Córdoba. It was about a witch who was Black,
893
00:58:24.690 --> 00:58:28.659
and her mother was a slave. a black slave from
894
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:32.260
the Caribbean who was imported to Mexico in the 1500s.
895
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And her father was Spanish. And she was imprisoned for
896
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.960
being a witch. And if you go to the records
897
00:58:41.019 --> 00:58:44.570
of the Spanish Inquisition, for those who don't know, the
898
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.670
Office of the Holy Inquisition was an office that the
899
00:58:47.750 --> 00:58:54.670
church set up to specifically investigate witchcraft and sorcery. And
900
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the indigenous people were exempt. A lot of people think
901
00:58:59.010 --> 00:59:06.630
that the Office of the Holy Inquisition burned indigenous magicians
902
00:59:06.730 --> 00:59:09.650
and stuff at the stake, and that didn't happen because
903
00:59:10.329 --> 00:59:14.260
they were seen by the Spanish authorities as being innocent.
904
00:59:14.340 --> 00:59:20.019
If they didn't convert to Christianity yet, they were considered innocent.
905
00:59:20.059 --> 00:59:23.099
They hadn't been exposed to the true gospel and all
906
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:27.699
of that. So they weren't tortured by the Inquisition. But
907
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:35.030
of A Black slave, a Christianized Black slave still practicing
908
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:40.210
African magic? No. That was a no-no. And in the
909
00:59:40.670 --> 00:59:43.690
archives of the Office of the Inquisition in Mexico City,
910
00:59:44.130 --> 00:59:51.059
there's a huge, you know, out-of-proportion number of Black women
911
00:59:51.420 --> 00:59:55.880
who are represented in the files of the Inquisition. Because
912
00:59:55.900 --> 00:59:59.039
what they were doing was they were just practicing their
913
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:05.719
inherited magic, okay? And their belief systems from Africa, or if,
914
01:00:06.010 --> 01:00:08.929
you know, they spent a couple generations in the Caribbean
915
01:00:08.969 --> 01:00:12.630
before being sent to Mexico, you know, part of that
916
01:00:12.710 --> 01:00:17.630
tradition too. And there is one story, the most famous
917
01:00:18.820 --> 01:00:25.940
African witch or, you know, practitioner in old beliefs, she
918
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:30.909
was jailed. by the Inquisition for witchcraft. Now, an interesting
919
01:00:30.989 --> 01:00:35.190
thing about this and about other records of the Inquisition,
920
01:00:35.670 --> 01:00:40.389
these were priests and officials who were taking notes and
921
01:00:40.469 --> 01:00:48.050
describing historical events, okay? So these were supposedly historical events.
922
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:53.659
And some of the stories are fascinating, like this Mulata
923
01:00:53.699 --> 01:00:58.809
de Cordoba, that's her nickname, She was imprisoned and she
924
01:00:58.849 --> 01:01:00.949
was going to go on trial and they were probably
925
01:01:00.989 --> 01:01:04.179
going to execute her. She asked for a piece of
926
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charcoal from one of the guards. So they gave her
927
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a small piece of charcoal. And then on the wall
928
01:01:10.900 --> 01:01:14.739
of her cell where she was being detained, she drew
929
01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:19.230
a picture of a ship. And then there were two witnesses,
930
01:01:19.610 --> 01:01:24.750
two guards who watched her jump into the illustration that
931
01:01:24.809 --> 01:01:27.820
she made on the wall. disappear. Yeah.
932
01:01:27.860 --> 01:01:28.869
That's amazing.
933
01:01:30.250 --> 01:01:31.570
And that was documented.
934
01:01:32.010 --> 01:01:34.630
That tells me like, what can we, it's okay. So
935
01:01:34.650 --> 01:01:36.809
I know I'm a, I'm a skeptic, but I'm like
936
01:01:36.829 --> 01:01:39.349
a believer, like, or I want to believe, right. I
937
01:01:39.369 --> 01:01:42.250
want to believe that that's possible. Like, I know it's probably,
938
01:01:42.389 --> 01:01:45.050
it's probably very hard to like almost impossible to do,
939
01:01:45.070 --> 01:01:46.849
but like, if you think about like what we can
940
01:01:46.869 --> 01:01:49.030
do with our minds, like that, that, that the mind,
941
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that the limitations, I mean, that maybe we're in some
942
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kind of holographic reality. Right. And if you think of it,
943
01:01:54.690 --> 01:01:56.369
if you look at it that way, like, if we
944
01:01:56.449 --> 01:02:00.179
are in a holographic reality and like we can master
945
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.139
our reality to some extent, maybe she had that much
946
01:02:03.179 --> 01:02:04.920
belief that she wanted to get out of there so
947
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.619
bad that she like, you know, literally believed it into existence,
948
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:12.599
you know, like present day manifestation, you know?
949
01:02:12.780 --> 01:02:16.980
Right. And like I said, it's in the records of
950
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:21.760
these skeptical people. I mean, the, the inquisition, when they
951
01:02:22.059 --> 01:02:26.730
investigated somebody, They weren't out for blood. They were out
952
01:02:26.789 --> 01:02:30.210
for the truth. What they thought was the truth. Is
953
01:02:30.269 --> 01:02:32.530
this person really a witch? We don't want to kill
954
01:02:32.570 --> 01:02:36.750
an innocent person, right? So if something made it to
955
01:02:36.809 --> 01:02:40.869
the records of the Inquisition, it was thoroughly researched. There's
956
01:02:40.929 --> 01:02:47.219
another story about a palace guard in Manila in the
957
01:02:47.340 --> 01:02:53.289
Spanish Philippines who woke up one morning on Monday the
958
01:02:53.389 --> 01:02:57.070
side of the cathedral in Mexico City, dressed in his
959
01:02:57.170 --> 01:03:03.289
guard uniform from the Philippines. And he didn't know how
960
01:03:03.349 --> 01:03:06.230
he got there. And there was no way that he
961
01:03:06.269 --> 01:03:11.510
could have gotten to Mexico City from the Philippines in
962
01:03:12.050 --> 01:03:14.550
the amount of time. I mean, it was like an instant.
963
01:03:15.110 --> 01:03:19.730
And he was telling the people there, about news that
964
01:03:19.769 --> 01:03:22.750
was happening in the Philippines that would have taken months
965
01:03:22.869 --> 01:03:28.130
to arrive by galleon across the Pacific. And so the
966
01:03:28.210 --> 01:03:34.010
Inquisition investigated this guy as being a sorcerer because what
967
01:03:34.210 --> 01:03:39.829
did he do? And they imprisoned him. And so that's
968
01:03:40.230 --> 01:03:46.590
another documented case. So explain that. And someone who did
969
01:03:46.659 --> 01:03:50.679
more research into this The southern part of the Philippines
970
01:03:50.780 --> 01:03:54.969
is Muslim, and it was Muslim back then, right? And
971
01:03:55.650 --> 01:04:00.889
someone had claimed that this palace guard was bewitched or
972
01:04:01.610 --> 01:04:04.929
cursed by a jinn. You know, the jinn in the
973
01:04:05.030 --> 01:04:10.360
Muslim world, the Arabian world, whatever. The evil spirit of
974
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:14.840
a jinn cursed him and teleported him to Mexico City.
975
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:17.980
He had no idea what happened to him. It wasn't
976
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:22.730
on his own accord. But he had fought in the
977
01:04:22.809 --> 01:04:26.130
southern part of the Philippines against the Muslims. And so
978
01:04:27.250 --> 01:04:30.369
when he, you know, like a decade or four before.
979
01:04:30.889 --> 01:04:34.559
So some people were theorizing that a djinn or some
980
01:04:34.659 --> 01:04:39.920
other malevolent spirit transported him there to Mexico City. There
981
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:44.280
was no explanation for why that happened. it's a big
982
01:04:44.340 --> 01:04:45.900
mystery and it's well documented.
983
01:04:46.179 --> 01:04:49.760
I didn't know that the Muslims went that far into like, um, their, their,
984
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:51.400
their conquest. Did they really?
985
01:04:51.420 --> 01:04:57.480
Yeah. Into the Southern Philippines. Yeah. I think now. Yeah.
986
01:04:58.579 --> 01:05:00.400
My friend that came on said that like, like our
987
01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:03.250
whole perception of what, like how people were was like,
988
01:05:03.289 --> 01:05:05.809
they said that George Washington could have been actually like
989
01:05:06.250 --> 01:05:10.030
African American or darker, you know, darker, you know, and
990
01:05:10.070 --> 01:05:12.949
that like, um, Abraham Lincoln also could have been, but
991
01:05:12.989 --> 01:05:15.210
they portrayed them as, I don't know. But I mean,
992
01:05:15.650 --> 01:05:17.449
do you think, I don't know about that. I'm not sure.
993
01:05:18.230 --> 01:05:21.610
Oh, I've heard that Abraham Lincoln was really Jewish too.
994
01:05:22.449 --> 01:05:23.929
Hence the name Abraham.
995
01:05:24.010 --> 01:05:24.239
Right.
996
01:05:24.980 --> 01:05:28.340
Yeah. But I don't know. There's a lot of.
997
01:05:29.099 --> 01:05:31.800
There's a lot of, I'm sorry. Yeah.
998
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.389
No, there's a lot of revisionist history. There's a lot of,
999
01:05:35.739 --> 01:05:40.510
you know, re-examination of history. So, you know, But George
1000
01:05:40.550 --> 01:05:44.150
Washington being black, that's new. I don't know.
1001
01:05:44.849 --> 01:05:51.070
I mean, it seems like before Columbus got here, you
1002
01:05:51.090 --> 01:05:53.079
know what I mean, that there was already people here.
1003
01:05:53.179 --> 01:05:57.980
I mean, it seems like there were people going up
1004
01:05:58.019 --> 01:06:00.440
to the Michigan area. I know there's a guy named
1005
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:04.070
Ron Rodemacher. He runs Michigan Backroads, and he talks about
1006
01:06:04.110 --> 01:06:06.489
that the Vikings and the Phoenicians had already been coming
1007
01:06:06.510 --> 01:06:09.280
to the New World for copper, because copper was a
1008
01:06:09.300 --> 01:06:12.880
big trade then, you know? So that's provable, you know?
1009
01:06:12.900 --> 01:06:16.500
Yeah, because you can trace the copper that was mined
1010
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:20.500
in Michigan or in the upper Great Lakes, like around
1011
01:06:20.539 --> 01:06:25.829
Lake Superior. You can trace that copper in the Levant,
1012
01:06:25.909 --> 01:06:31.570
you know, in Lebanon, Israel area, you know, you can
1013
01:06:31.650 --> 01:06:36.780
trace that to there where the Phoenicians were. So how
1014
01:06:36.820 --> 01:06:38.940
to get there? I've heard that too.
1015
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:41.880
And, and then they also, there's also, they say that
1016
01:06:41.900 --> 01:06:44.360
that writing that's on America's Stonehenge, which is up on
1017
01:06:44.380 --> 01:06:47.059
the East coast and like Boston or somewhere, somewhere in the,
1018
01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:49.099
somewhere in the new England States, you know, I think,
1019
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:51.760
I think it's near, not the city, but like, so,
1020
01:06:51.780 --> 01:06:55.659
you know, it's, it's America's Stonehenge. They say there's Phoenician
1021
01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:58.829
writing on that too, you know, which I find fascinating,
1022
01:06:58.889 --> 01:07:04.469
you know, it's, it's, it's, it's not proven. I have
1023
01:07:04.510 --> 01:07:07.050
the guy from America's Stonehenge on here and I talked
1024
01:07:07.070 --> 01:07:09.150
to him about it. he wasn't sure about it. He
1025
01:07:09.190 --> 01:07:11.219
said it wasn't, you know, I was like, well, how
1026
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:13.719
can you not? I'm like, didn't they have the test it?
1027
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:15.139
Like someone has to know something.
1028
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:16.079
You know what I mean?
1029
01:07:16.099 --> 01:07:18.559
I don't know. Like, unless it's like, unless it's like,
1030
01:07:18.699 --> 01:07:19.059
I don't know.
1031
01:07:19.139 --> 01:07:19.500
I mean, I.
1032
01:07:21.260 --> 01:07:23.139
Never saw it. So it made me like, wonder like,
1033
01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:25.380
why did they start to think there was Phoenician in
1034
01:07:25.420 --> 01:07:28.949
the first place? And then why did they not like, well,
1035
01:07:28.989 --> 01:07:30.929
I wonder what it looks like. You know, I don't know.
1036
01:07:30.949 --> 01:07:33.489
Like I should look that up actually, you know, but
1037
01:07:33.510 --> 01:07:35.889
I mean like, cause I'm, I'm interested to know about that.
1038
01:07:35.909 --> 01:07:38.800
Like why? Cause like, I'd like to prove that there
1039
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:43.079
were people here in America before, you know, before Columbus,
1040
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:46.989
you know. I mean, yeah, I don't know. But I mean,
1041
01:07:47.030 --> 01:07:47.619
what do you think?
1042
01:07:48.219 --> 01:07:52.590
I have a book. It's right up here called They
1043
01:07:52.690 --> 01:07:58.849
All Discovered America. And it takes a couple of instances
1044
01:07:59.510 --> 01:08:04.769
or a couple of theories of, you know, transatlantic contact.
1045
01:08:05.380 --> 01:08:07.980
And one of them is about the Phoenicians and the
1046
01:08:08.059 --> 01:08:12.619
copper and stuff. And the Phoenicians, I think, it's plausible
1047
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:18.539
because they were seafaring. But the whole idea that the
1048
01:08:18.760 --> 01:08:22.979
Olmecs in central Mexico, the ones who made those big
1049
01:08:23.060 --> 01:08:29.260
colossal heads, the Olmecs really were African, it doesn't hold
1050
01:08:29.340 --> 01:08:34.720
water because the Africans did not have seafaring boats. So
1051
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:39.100
how did they get here? You know, it's not, and
1052
01:08:39.180 --> 01:08:41.619
people are looking at that and then they're looking at
1053
01:08:42.310 --> 01:08:46.630
some Maya murals where some of the people appear to
1054
01:08:46.689 --> 01:08:49.930
have dreadlocks and all that. It's a big, it's a huge,
1055
01:08:50.670 --> 01:08:56.630
huge controversy on my Facebook page. Whenever I post anything,
1056
01:08:57.449 --> 01:09:01.810
there seems to be people saying, you know, this proves that,
1057
01:09:02.659 --> 01:09:06.310
you know, everyone was melanated or whatever. There's, there are
1058
01:09:06.329 --> 01:09:10.130
these terms that they keep throwing around that are reused
1059
01:09:10.350 --> 01:09:12.689
over and over and over again. And you know, that
1060
01:09:13.229 --> 01:09:15.850
people are saying the same stuff that they're not even
1061
01:09:15.979 --> 01:09:19.000
thinking about, you know, they're just repeating what they've heard.
1062
01:09:20.069 --> 01:09:26.600
But there's no DNA, no cultural or, you know, linguistic
1063
01:09:26.899 --> 01:09:29.640
evidence that there was any contact with Africa.
1064
01:09:29.659 --> 01:09:30.779
Yeah.
1065
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:33.880
And so, just because some things, you know, like there
1066
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:37.020
was a little figurine, and I was having fun with
1067
01:09:37.060 --> 01:09:41.239
some of this stuff, because there was a little figurine
1068
01:09:41.699 --> 01:09:46.180
that really did look like Aunt Jemima, okay, from the Maya,
1069
01:09:46.470 --> 01:09:51.369
but it was a dwarf. It was like a malformed dwarf,
1070
01:09:51.770 --> 01:09:55.770
that figurine. But it looked like Aunt Jemima. There's a mask,
1071
01:09:56.710 --> 01:09:59.670
a jade mask from the Maya area that looks like
1072
01:09:59.729 --> 01:10:04.130
Bill Cosby. There's also a sculpture that looks like Wanda Sykes,
1073
01:10:04.529 --> 01:10:07.949
you know, the comedian. But a lot of this, there's
1074
01:10:08.029 --> 01:10:11.869
so many artifacts. Here's the thing, though. There's so many
1075
01:10:12.010 --> 01:10:15.270
artifacts that are out there, that are all around the
1076
01:10:15.340 --> 01:10:25.239
world from ancient Mexico, that You can find lookalikes or similarities. Oh,
1077
01:10:25.300 --> 01:10:28.880
this looks like it's Asian. Or like I said, this
1078
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:32.819
looks like Bill Cosby. You can find a lot of
1079
01:10:32.979 --> 01:10:37.899
similarities that are just funny. But what did that mean?
1080
01:10:37.939 --> 01:10:41.550
Did it mean that Bill Cosby teleported back in time
1081
01:10:41.630 --> 01:10:45.270
and they worshipped him and they made a mask? I mean,
1082
01:10:45.329 --> 01:10:45.750
come on.
1083
01:10:46.289 --> 01:10:46.909
That's hilarious.
1084
01:10:47.460 --> 01:10:54.899
It's a coincidence, that's all. But yeah, some people take
1085
01:10:54.939 --> 01:11:02.350
it a little bit too far. Anyway, where'd you go? Rob,
1086
01:11:02.409 --> 01:11:09.949
where are you? Well, it looks like Rob ducked out.
1087
01:11:11.390 --> 01:11:13.829
I don't have access to the chat, so I don't
1088
01:11:13.869 --> 01:11:15.949
know what's happening. I'm here.
1089
01:11:16.149 --> 01:11:16.689
I'm sorry.
1090
01:11:16.710 --> 01:11:17.029
Yeah, yeah.
1091
01:11:17.649 --> 01:11:21.529
Um, uh, let me see. We've got, uh, uh, this is, uh,
1092
01:11:21.670 --> 01:11:24.189
this is, uh, from Bethany. She says, check out the
1093
01:11:24.250 --> 01:11:27.729
Norse runestone from the Vikings in Alexandria, Minnesota. What is
1094
01:11:27.770 --> 01:11:30.789
said is amazing. It's from 1362. I mean, just think
1095
01:11:30.810 --> 01:11:34.149
about that name, Alexandria, Minnesota. Where else do we know? Well, there's,
1096
01:11:34.210 --> 01:11:36.050
I think there's an Alexandria in Greece, but we know
1097
01:11:36.069 --> 01:11:38.829
there's an Alexandria in Egypt, which was named after Alexander
1098
01:11:38.869 --> 01:11:42.800
the great. So why Minnesota, Alexandria, maybe there was those
1099
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.220
kinds of people here. You know, and maybe that was
1100
01:11:45.260 --> 01:11:47.560
like another form of Alexander. I mean, you know, I
1101
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:49.819
don't or it could have been the Norse people, you know,
1102
01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:52.420
I don't know. I mean, I could or or could
1103
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:54.539
have been the Norse and people from there. You know
1104
01:11:54.579 --> 01:11:57.939
what I mean? Who knows? Like, you know, like it's interesting.
1105
01:11:57.979 --> 01:12:03.310
Like, yeah, I've I've seen that stone. The rune stone is. Yeah,
1106
01:12:03.449 --> 01:12:07.789
that's that's you know, it's not so far fetched that
1107
01:12:07.850 --> 01:12:10.909
the Norse were in North America. I mean, it's a hop,
1108
01:12:10.930 --> 01:12:15.020
skip and a jump. from Scandinavia to Iceland and then
1109
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.979
to Greenland and then to the islands, the Arctic islands
1110
01:12:19.020 --> 01:12:21.539
of Canada down the coast of Labrador.
1111
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:22.819
Yeah.
1112
01:12:22.899 --> 01:12:27.729
I mean, and they were seafaring people too, unlike West
1113
01:12:27.869 --> 01:12:34.010
Africans or whatever, you know? So it's not so far fetched.
1114
01:12:34.229 --> 01:12:38.140
There's even, we've talked about this before, I think, but
1115
01:12:38.789 --> 01:12:43.390
There's even a Maya god, a minor god called Votan.
1116
01:12:44.449 --> 01:12:48.560
And people think that he was a Viking who got
1117
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:55.500
blown off course or whatever. And that Votan is really Wotan.
1118
01:12:56.500 --> 01:13:01.319
And his day of the week is Wednesday, Wotan's day.
1119
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:05.289
So this Votan has the same day of the week
1120
01:13:05.449 --> 01:13:12.210
as the Norse or germanic god you know woden or
1121
01:13:12.590 --> 01:13:16.770
you know woden or voton yeah so.
1122
01:13:17.329 --> 01:13:21.039
Wow that's interesting um we kind of covered a lot
1123
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:22.300
we kind of covered a lot of ground we've been
1124
01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:24.319
going for an hour and 15 minutes let me ask
1125
01:13:24.380 --> 01:13:25.760
you this bro is there anything else you want to
1126
01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:28.659
cover before we uh you know go i mean oh
1127
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:30.439
yeah we have time we can cover you know we
1128
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:33.199
can cover some more stuff i mean but it's up
1129
01:13:33.220 --> 01:13:33.760
to you.
1130
01:13:33.579 --> 01:13:42.579
You know Well, there's never-ending material, like I said. One
1131
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:46.479
guy in Florida who runs a podcast who also has
1132
01:13:46.539 --> 01:13:52.159
a radio station, he offered to have me on for
1133
01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:58.140
an eight-hour episode. Now, in eight hours, it wouldn't be
1134
01:13:58.180 --> 01:14:01.560
enough time for me to talk about everything. So I
1135
01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:03.760
could keep going on and on and on and on
1136
01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:07.800
and on, but I guess we can end with, you know,
1137
01:14:08.380 --> 01:14:13.840
there are a lot of stories out there, ghosts, vampires, witches, whatever,
1138
01:14:13.899 --> 01:14:18.649
throughout Mexico. And some of them go back thousands of years.
1139
01:14:18.729 --> 01:14:21.789
Some of them more recent. Some of them are urban legends.
1140
01:14:22.470 --> 01:14:27.550
And every modern city in Mexico has a ghost tour. So,
1141
01:14:28.130 --> 01:14:30.520
you know, people are making money off of it now.
1142
01:14:31.619 --> 01:14:34.199
So it's big tourism now.
1143
01:14:35.590 --> 01:14:38.069
Yeah, that is a good point. One thing we didn't
1144
01:14:38.109 --> 01:14:40.609
touch on was UFOs. I just want to touch on
1145
01:14:40.630 --> 01:14:46.060
this real quick. Have there been more or less sightings,
1146
01:14:46.140 --> 01:14:49.399
and have you been keeping up with Mexico UFO sightings?
1147
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:53.180
Yeah, there are too many to keep up with, actually.
1148
01:14:53.579 --> 01:14:56.779
Now that everybody has a cell phone, they can record
1149
01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:00.529
things and stuff. But yeah, it's always been a hotspot
1150
01:15:00.569 --> 01:15:05.729
for UFOs, especially around volcanoes. And that Siete Luminarias that
1151
01:15:05.750 --> 01:15:08.750
I was telling you about, those seven volcanoes that are
1152
01:15:08.789 --> 01:15:12.649
arranged in the order of the Big Dipper. There's a
1153
01:15:12.689 --> 01:15:15.869
lot of UFO activity around there, too. In fact, when
1154
01:15:15.909 --> 01:15:20.199
I was there, someone had seen a UFO or a
1155
01:15:20.380 --> 01:15:25.539
fleet of smaller UFOs just like three days before I
1156
01:15:25.579 --> 01:15:27.369
was there. So I missed it.
1157
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:31.460
One more thing I wanted to ask you about, too,
1158
01:15:31.500 --> 01:15:34.119
real quick. I was laughing about this. the people who
1159
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:36.819
opened up the satanic temple in Mexico, remember that was
1160
01:15:36.859 --> 01:15:40.949
a big, like, like a controversial thing. Like, because you said,
1161
01:15:40.970 --> 01:15:43.449
you know, everybody there's like really hardcore Christian.
1162
01:15:43.510 --> 01:15:43.710
Right.
1163
01:15:43.770 --> 01:15:46.710
So like them opening the satanic temple in Mexico, did
1164
01:15:46.729 --> 01:15:48.710
that end up staying up or like, you.
1165
01:15:48.670 --> 01:15:52.720
Know, it's still there because there's nothing that they can
1166
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:56.819
do because the guy who opened it up made sure
1167
01:15:56.960 --> 01:16:00.100
all of his T's were crossed and his eyes were dotted.
1168
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:04.199
He went through all the paperwork. all of the stuff
1169
01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:06.800
that was necessary for it to get up and running.
1170
01:16:07.180 --> 01:16:09.600
And there's nothing that anyone can do about it because
1171
01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:16.569
even though Mexico is very Catholic, very hardcore Catholic, which
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is being eaten away by folk religions and things like that,
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folk saints that we've talked about before. But even though
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that it's hardcore Catholic and has been for hundreds of years,
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they have freedom of religion guaranteed in their constitution. So
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it was a national issue about freedom of religion. And
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01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:43.359
the guy used all the legal tricks in the book
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and whatever to open this. And despite all the protesting
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and stuff, it's still going and no harm has come
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to it as far as I know. So it's still open.
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Wow. I'm trying to think if I have any more questions.
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If you guys have any more questions, real quick for Mr.
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Robert Bitto, put them in the chat. I mean, maybe
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we'll do two or three more minutes and then we'll
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call it a night. But I mean, I thought this
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was a great show, Robert. This was amazing.
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It's always good to talk to you. Yeah, yeah.
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It's been like, you know, this is also, someone commented,
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Matthew commented, this is the season of the witch. Is
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01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:25.739
there any witch stories about in Mexico? You know, like.
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01:17:27.930 --> 01:17:31.090
Well, there are tons of, yeah, there are tons of
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witch stories. We have an hour? We have another hour?
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I mean, we have a couple minutes. I mean, yeah,
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I'm interested, you know, for sure.
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Well, the two big stories that we've talked about before,
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01:17:45.739 --> 01:17:51.340
we've touched upon, there's the Latrusa, the witch that turns
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into a gigantic owl that can kill people and sweep
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down on you. Yeah, but Some people believe that that's
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a real cryptid. And I missed the opportunity to go
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01:18:03.949 --> 01:18:08.649
on a Luchusa hunt that one of my listeners and
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01:18:08.729 --> 01:18:12.590
viewers invited me to go on. And I said, no,
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01:18:12.670 --> 01:18:15.979
I was way too busy at the time. But there's
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that kind of shape-shifting witch that's found mostly in northern Mexico.
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01:18:21.359 --> 01:18:26.470
Then there's the Tlalhualpuchi witch. And that's a blood-sucking witch.
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01:18:26.529 --> 01:18:31.270
It's more like a vampire. And then there are local
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01:18:31.350 --> 01:18:36.500
legends everywhere. There are local legends of witches in little
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01:18:36.539 --> 01:18:43.010
towns or wherever. It's usually a marginalized woman, a scorned woman,
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01:18:43.060 --> 01:18:48.760
an ugly girl who you know gets rejected by men
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01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:53.060
rejected by society and stuff and then turns to the
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01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:57.739
dark side and you know like in Carrie or whatever
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01:18:57.779 --> 01:19:00.939
revenge you know against people there are a lot of
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local stories that are like that where someone a woman
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01:19:05.170 --> 01:19:09.659
who's been scorned turns to the dark arts and becomes
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a witch. But then there are the traditional stories like
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01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:17.560
the Tlahuapuchi that goes back 2,000 years, the blood-sucking witch.
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And then the Lechuza, no one knows how far back
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01:19:21.109 --> 01:19:25.630
that goes. Some people think it goes back well over 1,000 years,
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01:19:26.329 --> 01:19:29.989
where a woman will turn into this gigantic owl. But
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01:19:30.090 --> 01:19:34.689
some people, like I said, believe that the story is
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01:19:34.989 --> 01:19:40.109
an explanation to explain this huge cryptid that has not
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01:19:40.210 --> 01:19:44.489
yet been identified. That is, that appears very rarely.
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So, wow, man, this is, this is a, this was
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an awesome show, man.
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01:19:49.149 --> 01:19:49.569
Yeah.
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01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:52.340
Well, yeah. Yeah. Do you want to tell people where
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they can find you? And thanks, Robert. This was awesome.
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01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:58.199
Sure. Thank you. It's, it's rare these days that I
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01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:00.260
do interviews, but like I said, I'm going to be
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back on track pretty soon here. And you can find
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everything at Mexico unexplained.com. And then that branches off to
1231
01:20:08.949 --> 01:20:11.449
a lot of different places. If you just want to
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01:20:11.470 --> 01:20:14.289
hear audio of my shows, you can go on Spreaker.
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01:20:14.770 --> 01:20:19.590
I'm on all the major podcast platforms. Usually Spreaker is
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01:20:19.630 --> 01:20:24.989
the easiest to download and stuff. And then YouTube, Mexico Unexplained.
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01:20:26.220 --> 01:20:29.020
And like I said, the website. And I'm on all
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01:20:29.060 --> 01:20:32.840
the social media. Facebook is pretty lively these days. So
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01:20:33.500 --> 01:20:36.649
I encourage you to sign up for that because... That's
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01:20:36.689 --> 01:20:39.859
where a lot of the discussions and stuff happen on
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01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:41.600
Facebook for some reason for me.
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01:20:41.659 --> 01:20:43.460
Do you have a group on Facebook?
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01:20:43.899 --> 01:20:49.159
Yeah, Mexico Unexplained. It has like 21,000 members, I think.
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01:20:49.699 --> 01:20:52.649
Wow, that's amazing. Holy shit, that's awesome.
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01:20:53.250 --> 01:20:58.170
Yeah, so I do a lot of posting there because
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01:20:58.729 --> 01:21:03.229
like I said, it's more active. Instagram and TikTok, I
1245
01:21:03.300 --> 01:21:06.979
also have a TikTok too that it seems like I
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01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:09.779
get one new follower every day.
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01:21:10.260 --> 01:21:15.140
So I honestly, I, I, I can't even post on
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01:21:15.180 --> 01:21:17.199
Tik TOK anymore. I get so mad because every time
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01:21:17.260 --> 01:21:19.020
I post something, they take me down. I'm so sick
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01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:22.220
of it. I'm like, excuse me. I mean, I'm just
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01:21:22.300 --> 01:21:24.199
not posting on there. Like I'm not dealing with them. Like,
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01:21:24.500 --> 01:21:26.699
you know, but yet it's crazy. They pick and choose
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01:21:26.739 --> 01:21:28.149
who they let pick post up.
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01:21:28.149 --> 01:21:28.600
You know what I mean?
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01:21:28.859 --> 01:21:31.069
They'll let somebody else post something all wild and stuff,
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01:21:31.090 --> 01:21:33.189
you know, or, you know, Something that's like, you know,
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01:21:33.850 --> 01:21:35.710
but then every time I post something, I go, this
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01:21:35.810 --> 01:21:37.930
is like, you know, not really, I don't know what
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01:21:37.949 --> 01:21:39.010
there is. It's just, you know.
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01:21:39.029 --> 01:21:41.590
There's a lot of, you know what, on TikTok, there's
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01:21:41.649 --> 01:21:45.789
a lot of hardcore racist content. And they just let
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01:21:45.850 --> 01:21:49.329
it go. They just let it do, you know, and
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01:21:49.430 --> 01:21:52.029
I'm amazed at some of the stuff that they let
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01:21:52.170 --> 01:21:56.029
on there, you know. I haven't had problems with TikTok, though.
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01:21:56.890 --> 01:22:02.210
It's strange. I mean, even if I posted, the, the,
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01:22:02.430 --> 01:22:06.699
the show that has gotten me a lot of trouble about, um,
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01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:11.199
a woman who was a possible spy, a Nazi spy
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01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:15.300
in Mexico, Hilda Kruger, Nazi spy in Mexico. That's gotten
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01:22:15.340 --> 01:22:17.220
me a lot of trouble in a lot of trouble
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01:22:17.340 --> 01:22:21.649
on YouTube, but putting that on Tik TOK, nobody cares. So.
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01:22:21.710 --> 01:22:27.079
Yeah. Yeah. Well, dude, this was awesome. Yeah. Like I,
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01:22:27.829 --> 01:22:30.189
I always appreciate you coming on. And yeah, that's it
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01:22:30.210 --> 01:22:32.229
for me for tonight, guys. Tomorrow I have two shows.
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01:22:32.609 --> 01:22:34.789
I have Pink Bella coming on and Anchor Haven. So
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01:22:35.210 --> 01:22:37.270
I'll see you guys tomorrow. And thank you, Robert.
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01:22:37.470 --> 01:22:41.289
And yeah, thanks again. And you know what? Have me
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01:22:41.390 --> 01:22:44.329
on again. We can have a UFO show or whatever,
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01:22:44.369 --> 01:22:47.050
you know, whatever you decide to do. I'm always up
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01:22:47.109 --> 01:22:50.130
for it. So I appreciate once again, the opportunity to
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01:22:50.229 --> 01:22:51.510
talk to you and your audience.
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01:22:52.350 --> 01:22:52.670
Awesome.
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01:22:52.689 --> 01:22:52.890
Yeah.
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01:22:52.949 --> 01:22:53.350
Thank you.
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01:22:53.449 --> 01:22:53.750
Awesome.
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01:22:53.789 --> 01:22:56.220
And yeah, and I will see you guys tomorrow.
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01:22:56.569 --> 01:22:57.140
Thanks, Robert.
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01:22:57.810 --> 01:22:58.439
Goodnight everyone