Encounters x121

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Drink responsibly.
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Be 21.
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Hi everyone, I'm Peter Andre.
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And I'm Emily Andre.
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Welcome to At Home with the Andres.
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You stole my line.
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I thought it said Peter twice.
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You said Peter thrice. That's why you need to pause.
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I'll go back, I'll go back, sorry. Can we pause there?
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I'm Peter Andre.
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And I'm Emily Andre.
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I can't get this right. Okay, one more time, this
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is it.
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Join us for At Home with the Andres.
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Listen wherever you get your podcasts.
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Or watch on Spotify and YouTube.
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Keep watching. You had to add that bit, didn't you?
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I know, because I'm trying to redeem myself.
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Oh, yeah.
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Very spooky.
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Hello, everyone.
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Hi. Hello. Hello. Hello there.
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It's fall. The air is crisp.
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It is.
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And over at Two Girls, One Ghost, we are celebrating
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Halloween early and posting some inspo pics and costume ideas
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and decor on our Instagram.
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That's Corinne doing that, and then I just enjoy it
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and sit on my couch and look at it all and...
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Get really excited and then send Corinne back a response
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to her own post saying, Ooh, I want to live
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in this.
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Ooh.
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Ooh, cool.
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We do, though. We do. Because this is Two Girls,
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One Ghost.
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Two Girls, One Ghost.
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And we are your ghostesses. That's Corinne.
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Jumbo.
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And I'm Sabrina. And for those of you who are
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Patreon donors... This Encounters episode is being recorded at this
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very moment. Well, not while you're listening, but as we're
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recording at this very moment. But time doesn't make sense,
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so who knows? Maybe it's being recorded at this very
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moment as well in a different timeline. Or in the
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same timeline, but just in a different space-time continuum.
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It's all confusing, but long story short, however it happens,
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we pick out a couple of the stories that we
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read and we post them on Patreon in video form.
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In video form.
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Which stories are picked?
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Yeah.
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The ones that we don't stutter over the most when
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reading them aloud.
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Yeah.
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So if you're listening with your ears right now on
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a podcast app, you're like, They don't stutter.
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Yes, we do.
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But that's the magic of editing.
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The magic of editing.
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Magic.
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So we'll see. We'll see what happens in this episode.
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Yeah, as we.
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How far we get.
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Yeah.
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Good luck to us.
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Good luck to us. Good luck to you, Sabrina. I
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am electing you as the first person to read.
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Oh my gosh. Okay. Let's see. I have a story
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from our listener, Haley, and it is called The Penny
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That Almost Killed Me.
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Hello, all.
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My name is Haley. I recently started listening after leaving
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my retail job that I had plenty of people to
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talk to to working with four older women in an office.
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They do not like to talk, and usually whenever they do,
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it's about Medicare or their cholesterol levels. I, however, was
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almost killed by a penny. My family and I were
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going on a vacation on a cruise, and we decided
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to stay in New Orleans a few days because that's
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where our port was. My family included my mom, brother, sister,
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and I. and my brother was a little kid who
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liked to get into things that he was not supposed to.
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We were getting ready to go into the very so
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famous Marie Laveau's House of Voodoo, where we very much
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so warned my brother to not touch anything in there.
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Fast forward to that night, we were ready for bed
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because we had to be up early to board the ship.
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Everyone was sound asleep. However, at about 1.30am, I woke up.
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I heard what sounded like water coming from the bathroom
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with the light on. I assumed it was my brother
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or sister, but then I noticed that they were both
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in bed. As soon as I realized that they were
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in bed, the water shut off. I, being as dramatic
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as I am, woke my mom up because the water
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turned on and off. I was freaked the fuck out.
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My mom, half awake, was kind of pissed that she
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was woken up in the middle of the night until
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the water came back on. It wouldn't have been so
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creepy if we weren't able to hear the squeaking of
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the faucet. My mom was now wide awake. and it
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turned off again. We both made such a commotion about
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it that it woke both my siblings up and it
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just kept turning off and on, even with all of
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us up. I remember it not being such a frantic
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on and off and on and off and on and off,
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but rather it would be on for about 10 or
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15 seconds and then turn back off. It was enough
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to keep me up all night. Once we were on
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the ship, one of our ports was in Cozumel. I
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would absolutely recommend there if you're team wine. Being me,
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I got too drunk and I spent the rest of
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the night in the ship room by myself as I
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blacked out. I woke up at about seven and found
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my family for a bit before returning to my room
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where a few hours later I was deathly sick and
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in pain. I couldn't figure out what it was. After
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a few days, the pain was still there along with
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the sickness. I was happy though because I was leaving
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to go back home where I could get looked at.
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Come to find out I had developed a kidney stone
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that was big enough I couldn't pass it on my
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own and had to have surgery. I also had to
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have a catheter put in from the surgery. I was
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in the hospital for a little bit, but not more
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than a day. After I was home for a few days,
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I remember I was in one of my classes at
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college and thinking how weird it was my heart was
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beating so fast despite sitting there for just an hour.
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I was also very shaky. I was lightheaded and had
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no energy. My body was telling me something was wrong.
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I told my mom that I thought something was wrong
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and went full on doctor and Googled some things. I
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decided that I was suffering from sepsis. And I told
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my mom that we needed to go to the hospital.
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And sure enough, after the visit to the ER, I
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was being admitted for a septic infection that was in
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my kidneys. I will now take my doctorate. Thank you
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very much. I spent around a week in the hospital,
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pretty fucking sick. After being released, it was pretty late
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and we were getting into my mom's car so we
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could go get my antibiotic from CVS, except my mom's
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car would not start. So here we are stuck in
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the hospital parking lot in the middle of winter in
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the Midwest. What a great time. Eventually, my mom gets
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it to start, and we made our stop and went home.
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I hadn't gotten a chance to look at my stuff
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I bought in New Orleans, and no one else really
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had either since they were worried about their sister or
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kid in the hospital. We were kind of going through
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our stuff, and my brother is pulling out all these
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shark and alligator teeth, a necklace, and a penny. And
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my mom asked why he had a penny, and he
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simply said it's something collectible. Can you guess where this
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child took this penny from? He took it off the
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shrine of Mary Laveau. I am fully convinced that everything
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happened because of this damn penny and whatever force decided
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to punish whoever it could. It may have been when
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I was the first to wake up that night in
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the hotel room. I'm not completely sure, but the force
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decided to stay at my mom's house and make an
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appearance every so often, usually in the living room. I
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don't live with my family anymore, so I don't have
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to see it. And my brother still has this cursed
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penny in a collection. Thank you guys for being the
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best to listen to. Hearing your voices makes me feel
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a little bit more in a place where I'm not
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very comfortable. Please stay spooky and stay ready for Halloween. Haley.
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Well, that's some serious stuff messing with Marie Laveau.
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I mean, this reminds me so much of the feeling
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that I got when I remember I told you my
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sister and I went into the voodoo shop and it
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wasn't Marie Laveau's, but like there was an altar in
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the middle. Like people have put stuff on it. And
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it very clearly said, do not touch this. And I
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had bad vibes. And I can only imagine that it's
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that or more in Marie Laveau's.
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Exactly. There are certain things that you just have to
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listen to the signs. You can't touch the button. You
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can't grab the thing. And it's in voodoo shops, especially
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in New Orleans. I think it's dolls and haunted museums
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and artifacts there. And Ouija boards. Just like if there's
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a warning there, it's for a reason. It's not just
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someone saying like, hey, please don't touch this stuff. It's
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truly there because I'm sure a ton of other stuff
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has happened when they have been fooled with. I'm curious
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if her brother like believes in this stuff. And this
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was his moment of being like, oh, shit, I've awakened something.
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I know.
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Or if it was just, he was just younger and
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like curious.
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Well, yeah.
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And didn't think anything of it.
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That's what I'm curious about is how old he was
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because I don't know. I mean, even if you hear
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ghost stories as a kid, you don't always connect the
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dots between the two or you're like, oh, this is
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a cool penny. And you know, we just take it. Yeah.
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But I also, Haley, did anyone in your family get
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up to go check the bathroom or did you guys
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just lay there and listen to the water turn on
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and off all night?
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He's so creepy. Oh, Oh, I don't want to think
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about what they saw or what they would have seen
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if they had gone. I know.
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But I mean, like, did they call the front desk?
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I'm sure something happened. But based on Haley's email, I'm
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just imagining the entire family just laying in bed, looking
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at each other and just staying there. We're like, it
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has to stop eventually.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'm also curious. So her brother still has this
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penny in a collection, she said.
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In a collection.
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Is this like he knows which penny is the penny
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or is this a collection as in like he just
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has a bunch of change in a jar and has
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no clue which one's the haunted one?
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That's interesting.
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I don't know.
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I also wonder what else has happened in the living
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room if they've seen this entity and it's made itself
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present in the living room. Like what has happened?
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You know what this is kind of reminding me of?
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Is the crone of Catskills. Remember the crone was taken
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and then there was this, like, wet, drenched, like, demon
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woman attached to it?
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Yes.
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Crone definitely seems way more– I mean, I know Hayley's
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experience was awful. But crone was terrifying.
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Crone was absolutely terrifying. But still, to bring something home–
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I think the messing with the bathroom and the messing
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with the water– There's something about that that really gets me.
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It's one thing if it's like a closet or an
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attic because you can kind of, depending on where you live,
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you can do alternatives. Like you can go get a
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wardrobe bar and just never use your closet and avoid that.
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Yeah.
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But the bathroom you can't avoid. You have to go
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multiple times a day into the bathroom.
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Oh, you mean in the hotel? Yes.
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I'm talking about like the water.
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Turning on and off.
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In that first experience when they were all listening.
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I'm curious if they return the penny, will things stop?
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Or is it too late? Because it seems like they've
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had it for years now. And now they have an
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entity too. The entity is theirs.
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It's theirs.
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It's no longer connected to the penny. It is connected
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to your home. To you, your family.
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Grab the penny and bring a demon home with you.
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That's what they say.
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That's what happens. You know the old saying.
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Grab a penny or no, steal a penny and bring
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home a demon.
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Steal a penny and bring a demon home. I'm going
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to tell my kids that in the future.
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Well, pennies are going to be worth so much when
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your children are around.
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I mean, probably because aren't we getting rid of pennies?
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Hasn't that long been a thing where everyone's like, hey,
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we're not going to have pennies, which is fine by me.
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I don't use them.
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And they're haunted, so good for you.
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They're haunted. So you read an email from Haley. I
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also have an email from someone named Haley.
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So I feel like this is the Haley sode.
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This is the Haley sode. This is titled, are you
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my dad? Lingering relative.
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Is that how it's said in the subject line?
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I think that's how she said it when she typed it.
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When she typed it, yeah.
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That's what was in her head.
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Mm-hmm.
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Hello, my name is Haley and I'm a new listener.
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I've enjoyed the episodes I've listened to on my car
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rides to work. I actually have a story about my
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father lingering after he passed. A little bit of background
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is needed. My father was diagnosed with cancer in 2012
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and passed away March of 2013 after a long battle.
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He passed away at our home. Before he was brought
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home to be made comfortable, he was at the hospital.
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At the hospital, someone brought him some balloons. One of
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the balloons said, I love you. This balloon comes into
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play later. After he was released and brought home, he
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passed about a week later. By this time, most of
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the balloons were deflated. The I love you balloon was
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barely holding on. A few days had gone by and
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the house fell quiet again after everyone being in and out.
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And we noticed the balloon had moved from his bedroom
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to the kitchen. My parents' room was just off of
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the kitchen. My brother and I were sitting at the
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island and my mother was standing on the other side
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of the island. And this balloon was floating higher than
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it should have been for a basically deflated balloon. It
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started to float in circles around my mother's head. After that,
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it moved to my brother and then to me and
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repeated the circles with both of us.
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Oh.
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Oh, chills.
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After circling me, it proceeded to then slowly float down
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the hallway and into the den. Once the balloon made
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its way to the den, it floated down as if
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it were sitting on dad's favorite chair.
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Oh, wow.
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He would make anyone sitting in this chair move. We
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were wondering if he was still with us. We thought
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maybe he was the one moving the balloon.
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Yeah.
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Fast forward another week and I was sitting on the
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porch with my mother and her friend. I had this
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bullshit ghost detector app on my phone and I decided
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to open it. It never said anything relevant before, so
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I thought this app was fake. All of a sudden,
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after opening this app, the first thing it said was Edward,
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which was my father's middle name. I freaked out, immediately
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closed the app, and I started to cry. It was
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very emotional. And that moment, I think he actually did
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come through the app. Fast forward again to another few weeks.
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And my uncle was about to tattoo my now ex-boyfriend
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in our den. There was some laundry in the chair
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that my ex-boyfriend was going to sit in, so my
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uncle moved it. My uncle set the pile of laundry
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down on my father's chair. Shortly after he did that,
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the room grew slightly darker and a little dense. A
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few shadows started coming in from the back of the den.
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He had a fireplace stand, you know, the thing with
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the poker and the shovel and the other things needed
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for a fire. And it was super sturdy and heavy,
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but the fireplace stand crashed to the floor as soon
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as my uncle was about to start tattooing. He picked
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it up and he tried to knock it back down,
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but it wouldn't budge without some force behind it. My
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uncle decided that it was probably a good idea to
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move the laundry out of my dad's chair and to
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put it on the couch instead. As soon as he
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did that, the dark and dense feeling lifted and the
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shadows stopped. I feel like all of these things were
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my father still being among us in the house. the
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longest time he was attached to his chair i took
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his chair when i moved out and it would randomly
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rock for months to follow oh my gosh the house
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ended up getting foreclosed on and the chair didn't rock
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after about two and a half years of being moved
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out i'm not sure if anything still happens at that
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house he's been gone for eight years i wanted to
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share these experiences especially since i knew the ghost involved
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again i love catching up on the episodes i've missed
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You've gained another listener. See you on the other side, Haley. Wow.
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Well, first, Haley, I'm so sorry for your loss. But
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there's no denying that this is your father. The way
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the balloon, the movement alone, and how it went around
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your mom and then your brother and then you and
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then floated to your dad's chair. I mean, my brain
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will not allow me to even find another explanation because
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that is the only obvious thing that it could be.
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It's your dad.
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And statistically, I mean, I feel I'm no mathematician here.
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No.
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Clearly. We're not. No, we're not. But I feel like
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the probability of that happening, of it circling around all
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three of you and then moving down the hall to
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another room and into that one particular chair. Like what's
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the likelihood of that? How could this be a coincidence?
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It's not.
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It's not.
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It's just not.
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It's absolutely not.
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That's amazing.
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And the chair proved to have a lot of activity
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around it.
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He just loves his chair. I mean, this is how
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like antiques become, or you know, people buy things from
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antique stores and they end up haunted because people really
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do have their things and that they get attached to
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and that they love. I mean, clearly he loves this
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chair so much that he became angry and started sending
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shadows and pushed over a fireplace stand or a fire stand,
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whatever it is, because there was laundry in his chair. Right.
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And he needed a seat. How dare everyone be in
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that room and then not give him his favorite space.
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His spot. It's amazing.
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Yeah. And the fact that he stayed with the chair
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too for so long after it was removed from the house.
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Like he was just with Haley. He was washing his
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daughter and making sure that everything was good with her
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before feeling like he could exit the chair.
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I love this because they're just so– like these experiences
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are so strong. Because like if the balloon just went
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over their mom's head and stayed there, like it could
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have been written off as something else. But for it
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to do all three things. And then for like multiple
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things to happen in the office and then also for
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the phone app, which never really worked, to say her
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dad's middle name. It's just like these are very clear encounters.
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Yeah, there's too many things. Too many things that are
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very specific to her dad.
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Gosh, I love– I love the paranormal.
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I know. I also like that her uncle tried to
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almost like debunk the fireplace stand falling over by trying
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to force it down again. And it just wouldn't go
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on its own, so. More proof. I love that.
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Just as he was about to start the tattoo, the
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thing went over. Because I imagine, I mean, that's also,
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you're holding like machinery that's gonna ink your shin. Yeah, like, oops.
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Oopsie.
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Not that that happened, but that's my imagination of what happened.
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Maybe we're misidentifying this situation. Maybe we think it was
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about the chair and the clothing, but. Perhaps it was
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really just his attempt at getting a tattoo screwed up
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on the person's body who his daughter was dating who
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he didn't like.
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Maybe. I mean, yeah.
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A practical joke gone wrong. Interesting. Or maybe right.
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Or right.
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Right for the person who was getting tattooed who didn't
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get a mistake.
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Well, he got his chair back and it seemed to
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lift when he got his chair back. So, I don't know.
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All good.
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You're listening to a quick ad. You know what else
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is quick? Selling your car on Carvana. Just put in
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your vehicle information and we'll give you an offer.
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Done.
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No hassle.
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No negotiation. No guy from an online listing lowballing you.
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Which means by the time I'm done explaining this, you
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could have basically done it. Still haven't started? Hey, better
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late than never. Sell your car today on Carvana. Pickup
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fees may apply.
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Okay.
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This is from our listener, Liz Kovacic. And it is
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called I Lived in a Portal to Hell, Part 1.
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And I don't believe we have Part 2 yet, or
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I haven't seen it.
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Oh, my gosh. A cliffhanger.
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Yes.
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Greetings, ghostesses. My name is Liz, and I write sexy
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romance novels for adults and scary AF horror for kids
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and teens.
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I've never been more jealous of someone's career. I know.
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I know.
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I'm also a full-time freelancer, writer of all things New Age, paranormal,
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and ghostly, a devoted cat parent, and I laughably realized
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as I was writing out this email, someone who has
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had a shit ton of paranormal experiences. A brief aside
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before we get into said shit ton of paranormal experiences.
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If you would ever like to turn some of your
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podcasts into a blog post, please, please, please let me know.
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Writing about ghost stories is kind of my dream come true.
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Fun. So fun.
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Okay.
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We can be bloggers now.
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We can be TikTokers, podcasters, bloggers, whatever it is, put
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it on our list and check it off because... That's.
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Just what we do. We're here for it.
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Okay. Pumpkin spice latte is acquired. Caffeine is percolating. Let's go.
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That time I lived in a portal to hell. In 2003,
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when I was a 20-year-old aerospace student. Okay, Liz, come on.
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Can you get any cooler?
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This is a person. This feels like a made-up person,
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doesn't it? It's just like amazing at everything. Dream wide.
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We love you.
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Just let's be friends. Okay, I rented a two-bedroom townhouse
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in Gray, Tennessee. The rent was a steal because it
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was super close to the airport and there was a
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lot of aviation noise, but it was in a lovely
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wooded location and I was an aerospace student, so it's
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not like I minded the planes all that much. Anyway,
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I lived there for three and a half years, the
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longest of any tenant in my building, and I and
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my neighbor's Had some hella forked up paranormal experiences there.
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The apartments are still there today, but it's probably not
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a good idea to share the exact location on the
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podcast because I wouldn't want the current owners to get
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pissy or for the current residents to get scared. But
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she sent us a link and some photos so we
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have an idea of.
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Where it took place.
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Okay.
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This part is titled, I once saw a ghost cat
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run into my apartment only to disappear in the kitchen.
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Back in 2003, I worked a 1.30 to 10 p.m.
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shift at a nearby call center, so I usually came
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home after dark. My apartment was the second of four
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two-story units squished together, a two-bedroom townhouse in a mostly
499
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quiet wooded area nestled away from everything. Unfortunately, it's not
500
00:21:38.049 --> 00:21:40.930
uncommon for people in this area to dump their pets
501
00:21:41.059 --> 00:21:43.700
if they're ever evicted or moving to an apartment that
502
00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:46.539
doesn't allow pets. So there were a lot of stray
503
00:21:46.579 --> 00:21:49.609
cats living in the woods near the complex. And because
504
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I love cats and cannot stand a hungry pet, I
505
00:21:52.470 --> 00:21:54.190
would sometimes put food out for a few of the
506
00:21:54.230 --> 00:21:57.910
friendlier strays in hopes that the local cat nonprofit would
507
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be able to trap them and find them forever homes.
508
00:22:00.660 --> 00:22:02.039
That's sweet. It is.
509
00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:05.240
So one night after work, I come home hands full
510
00:22:05.259 --> 00:22:07.579
of grocery bags because who is going to make a
511
00:22:07.619 --> 00:22:11.150
second trip? Not me. And one of the strays I feed,
512
00:22:11.170 --> 00:22:13.049
a tabby that I named 99, was waiting on me.
513
00:22:14.650 --> 00:22:16.690
I struggled with opening the door because my porch light
514
00:22:16.730 --> 00:22:19.170
was out again. It kept happening, and I would like
515
00:22:19.210 --> 00:22:21.349
to think that it was because of the old wiring,
516
00:22:21.849 --> 00:22:23.869
but I also can't say for sure that it was
517
00:22:23.930 --> 00:22:27.119
not paranormal, which I think is even more distressing. My
518
00:22:27.140 --> 00:22:29.759
hands are full, and 99 is weaving around my legs.
519
00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:32.460
I finally get the lock turned, but as soon as
520
00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:35.619
I push open the door, a black cat runs past
521
00:22:35.660 --> 00:22:39.500
me and into my apartment. 99 elicits a sharp hiss
522
00:22:39.700 --> 00:22:42.049
and then takes off into the woods. which was very
523
00:22:42.109 --> 00:22:45.049
much not like her, especially because she had not yet
524
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been fed. At this point, I'm like, oh shit, because A,
525
00:22:48.609 --> 00:22:49.730
I don't want to be in the middle of a
526
00:22:49.750 --> 00:22:53.210
stray cat fight, and B, my two house cats, Trixie
527
00:22:53.230 --> 00:22:56.630
and Benjamin, were inside and Benji is a fighter. The
528
00:22:56.670 --> 00:22:58.509
last thing that I needed is a trip to the
529
00:22:58.569 --> 00:23:02.049
emergency vet or worse, Benji running off into the woods,
530
00:23:02.210 --> 00:23:04.990
chasing a stray cat who may or may not be vaccinated.
531
00:23:05.970 --> 00:23:07.690
So I drop my groceries on the floor in the
532
00:23:07.730 --> 00:23:10.339
living room and rush after the black cat who darts
533
00:23:10.470 --> 00:23:13.819
into the kitchen. Okay, that's easy enough because the kitchen
534
00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:17.289
is horseshoe-shaped. with only one opening. I can open the
535
00:23:17.309 --> 00:23:20.049
bathroom door, which is just across the hall, and block
536
00:23:20.089 --> 00:23:22.589
the cat from going any further into the apartment and
537
00:23:22.710 --> 00:23:25.230
usher them back out the front door. In my mind,
538
00:23:25.309 --> 00:23:28.430
the problem is solved. Except when I get to the kitchen,
539
00:23:28.769 --> 00:23:31.650
there is no cat. There's just me, standing in the hallway,
540
00:23:31.769 --> 00:23:34.849
scratching my head, because I saw a cat. I saw
541
00:23:34.910 --> 00:23:37.049
a black cat run through the living room and into
542
00:23:37.089 --> 00:23:40.150
the kitchen, a kitchen with only one way out, and
543
00:23:40.190 --> 00:23:43.109
I'm standing in front of it, looking at nothing. More
544
00:23:43.150 --> 00:23:45.509
confused than shaken, I walk back to the front door,
545
00:23:45.730 --> 00:23:48.769
close and lock it, and then begin putting away my groceries.
546
00:23:49.049 --> 00:23:52.430
While I'm putting things away, I check cabinets, crevices, anywhere
547
00:23:52.470 --> 00:23:56.259
I think a cat could maybe be hiding, but still nothing.
548
00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:58.920
By pajama time, I'm ready to write it off as
549
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:01.299
a trick of the light, a result of a sleep
550
00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:04.559
deprivation that comes with being 20 and a full-time employee
551
00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:07.940
and student. But then I remember that 99 had seen
552
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.150
the black cat too. So apparently had Trixie and Benjamin
553
00:24:11.450 --> 00:24:13.490
because they scattered when the black cat had run into
554
00:24:13.529 --> 00:24:16.289
the apartment and I found them hiding under the couch
555
00:24:16.369 --> 00:24:19.359
and they were all puffed up and shaking. One or
556
00:24:19.390 --> 00:24:21.519
both of them had peed themselves and they wouldn't even
557
00:24:21.579 --> 00:24:24.039
come to bed that night. They sat under the couch,
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00:24:24.180 --> 00:24:27.500
growling at every noise, every light, every Creek. I was
559
00:24:27.579 --> 00:24:29.460
so creeped out that I slept on the living room
560
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floor because I didn't want to be alone. This happened
561
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:35.619
half a dozen more times. There was also a section
562
00:24:35.660 --> 00:24:37.940
of wall near the stairs that was always hot. I
563
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.420
noticed it straight off, but assumed it had something to
564
00:24:40.460 --> 00:24:42.700
do with the heating. Because I moved in the winter,
565
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:45.589
I didn't think much of it. But by the summer,
566
00:24:45.690 --> 00:24:49.069
the heat wafting off that wall was impossible to ignore.
567
00:24:49.789 --> 00:24:52.130
It wasn't warm in the way fresh laundry out of
568
00:24:52.150 --> 00:24:55.670
the dryer is warm. It was hot, like a heating coil.
569
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So hot that if you put your hand to it
570
00:24:58.190 --> 00:25:00.430
and kept it there for a few seconds, it would
571
00:25:00.450 --> 00:25:04.740
be red and warm. Like that 4x4 section of the wall,
572
00:25:04.900 --> 00:25:09.190
but only that 4x4 section of the wall might combust
573
00:25:09.250 --> 00:25:12.009
into flames at any moment. The apartments at the time
574
00:25:12.049 --> 00:25:14.170
were owned by a retired couple who were very nice.
575
00:25:14.730 --> 00:25:16.690
So when I called and explained about the hot wall
576
00:25:16.730 --> 00:25:19.450
near the stairs, they came by with the apartment manager
577
00:25:19.660 --> 00:25:22.500
and an HVAC technician to see what was going on.
578
00:25:23.140 --> 00:25:25.420
They even removed a section of drywall to see if
579
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.359
there was a faulty wire, pipe, or duct that needed replacing.
580
00:25:29.099 --> 00:25:31.859
and only like the black cat that disappeared into thin air,
581
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there was nothing but wall studs and foam insulation behind
582
00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:38.880
the drywall. No one could figure out where the extreme
583
00:25:38.940 --> 00:25:42.180
heat was coming from. Flummoxed, we went next door to
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the connecting apartment, which was vacant, and it had the
585
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.680
same layout, but a mirror image version of it, so
586
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.720
it was easy to find the spot on that side.
587
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.720
It was cold. The hot spot was only on my
588
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.240
side of the wall. We all walked away scratching our
589
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:57.359
heads because there was nothing in the wall that could
590
00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:02.069
produce heat especially not just one-sided heat. They replaced the drywall,
591
00:26:02.269 --> 00:26:06.009
but the hotspot remained hot. If anything, it got worse,
592
00:26:06.630 --> 00:26:09.700
so bad that it discolored the brand new paint job,
593
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:12.740
and we never figured out why. I also went through
594
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.779
a lot of neighbors, because they were too creeped out
595
00:26:15.819 --> 00:26:18.200
to stay. The first neighbor in the end unit next
596
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.049
to mine, the one that shared the wall with the hotspot,
597
00:26:21.589 --> 00:26:24.680
was a Hispanic couple with three small children. The oldest
598
00:26:24.700 --> 00:26:27.329
daughter was around eight years old and had just begun
599
00:26:27.369 --> 00:26:30.109
doing chores around the house, and one of her favorite
600
00:26:30.130 --> 00:26:32.849
chores was taking out the trash. Her mom would stand
601
00:26:32.910 --> 00:26:34.930
on their side of our shared porch and watch as
602
00:26:34.970 --> 00:26:37.789
the little girl lugged a half-full garbage bag the 20
603
00:26:37.789 --> 00:26:40.750
or so feet to the neighborhood dumpster. The little girl
604
00:26:40.809 --> 00:26:43.690
tossed the bag into the trash, skipped back to the apartment,
605
00:26:44.009 --> 00:26:48.529
and smack, the door to her apartment slammed in her face.
606
00:26:49.890 --> 00:26:52.259
Oh, she's so young. I feel so bad.
607
00:26:52.339 --> 00:26:52.759
I know.
608
00:26:52.819 --> 00:26:53.400
So scary.
609
00:26:54.099 --> 00:26:57.359
She started screaming and crying, calling for her mom, and
610
00:26:57.420 --> 00:27:00.400
from inside the apartment, her mom was screaming and calling
611
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.279
for her, trying to get the door open. It was
612
00:27:03.339 --> 00:27:06.160
not locked, but it would not budge from either side.
613
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:09.049
I and another neighbor who had just gotten home calmed
614
00:27:09.109 --> 00:27:11.430
the girl down, and with some effort, we managed to
615
00:27:11.470 --> 00:27:13.930
get the door open. Her mother had been standing in
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00:27:13.970 --> 00:27:16.349
the doorway when the door had slammed shut, and it
617
00:27:16.369 --> 00:27:19.160
had bloodied her chin and torn up her toes. So
618
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.259
she clearly had not closed the door herself. The only
619
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.240
logical explanation anyone could come up with was maybe a
620
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:27.849
weird downdraft sort of thing from a plane as it
621
00:27:27.869 --> 00:27:29.289
took off caused the door to shut.
622
00:27:29.890 --> 00:27:30.150
What?
623
00:27:30.430 --> 00:27:30.670
No.
624
00:27:30.849 --> 00:27:34.329
Except there are seven-foot privacy fences protecting the deck porch
625
00:27:34.410 --> 00:27:38.210
area on both sides, plus a lush canopy of trees overhead.
626
00:27:38.750 --> 00:27:40.750
And I had been outside reading when this happened and
627
00:27:40.769 --> 00:27:41.630
there was no wind.
628
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.690
And also, sorry, if this were a plane, planes don't
629
00:27:45.750 --> 00:27:46.950
just fly willy-nilly.
630
00:27:46.990 --> 00:27:47.089
No.
631
00:27:47.130 --> 00:27:48.029
They're flight paths.
632
00:27:48.109 --> 00:27:48.390
Yeah.
633
00:27:48.410 --> 00:27:50.009
So it would be a recurring event.
634
00:27:50.369 --> 00:27:50.589
Yeah.
635
00:27:50.710 --> 00:27:53.269
And I can't imagine that these are close enough to
636
00:27:53.730 --> 00:27:56.309
a runway that the energy from the planes is like
637
00:27:56.470 --> 00:27:57.329
that strong. No.
638
00:27:57.349 --> 00:27:58.710
It's a ghost.
639
00:27:59.009 --> 00:27:59.410
It's a ghost.
640
00:27:59.430 --> 00:27:59.950
Yeah.
641
00:28:00.269 --> 00:28:03.150
Yeah. We're all thinking it. A couple of weeks later,
642
00:28:03.309 --> 00:28:06.529
the little girl's backpack mysteriously went missing. And a few
643
00:28:06.569 --> 00:28:10.029
days after that, the backpack and its contents were found
644
00:28:10.130 --> 00:28:13.079
scattered in the woods. which could have been a vandal
645
00:28:13.099 --> 00:28:14.900
who found it and went through it looking for money
646
00:28:14.940 --> 00:28:17.950
or drugs or who knows what. This was all before
647
00:28:17.990 --> 00:28:20.650
the age of cell phone cameras, let alone ring cameras.
648
00:28:21.190 --> 00:28:24.009
But the family broke the lease and moved not long after.
649
00:28:24.390 --> 00:28:26.410
Remember how I said the landlords at the time were
650
00:28:26.470 --> 00:28:29.579
super nice? I can't remember a single time when they
651
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.039
gave anyone in my building a hard time for breaking
652
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:35.160
the lease. They actually kind of expected it. And when
653
00:28:35.259 --> 00:28:37.480
I moved to the complex, I tried to negotiate a
654
00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:40.099
lower rate in exchange for a longer lease, and they
655
00:28:40.140 --> 00:28:42.049
talked me out of it. I ended up getting the
656
00:28:42.089 --> 00:28:44.890
lower rate I asked for with a six-month lease. And
657
00:28:44.970 --> 00:28:47.619
every time I renewed, I lived there from December of
658
00:28:47.619 --> 00:28:52.480
2002 to June 2006, they acted shocked. Like they couldn't
659
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.680
believe someone would want to stay another night, let alone
660
00:28:55.859 --> 00:29:00.720
six more months. What the hell is going on?
661
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:02.140
That is not normal.
662
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:05.619
I know. More stories about other neighbors in that same apartment.
663
00:29:06.059 --> 00:29:08.420
There was always a banging noise in the master bedroom,
664
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:13.210
which mirrored the other apartment's master bedroom. And always, even
665
00:29:13.250 --> 00:29:15.859
when that apartment was vacant, which was a lot because
666
00:29:15.900 --> 00:29:19.559
of the turnover, sometimes the banging sounded like a growl,
667
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:24.240
like a low and consistent room rattling bass beat. Other
668
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:27.680
times it was louder like pots banging or gunfire or
669
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:31.829
firecrackers going off. But the worst experience was the night
670
00:29:31.849 --> 00:29:34.490
that I thought I heard someone being attacked next door.
671
00:29:35.109 --> 00:29:37.230
My mother was staying with me that night and she
672
00:29:37.309 --> 00:29:39.970
heard it too. We both had our ears pressed up
673
00:29:40.049 --> 00:29:42.490
against the bedroom wall, listening, trying to figure out if
674
00:29:42.539 --> 00:29:45.039
it was a TV or if it was real. The
675
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.599
apartment at that time was being rented by two college
676
00:29:47.660 --> 00:29:51.299
dudes and they could be loud at times, but never violent.
677
00:29:52.059 --> 00:29:54.799
Usually they were just playing video games and laughing. But
678
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:56.799
this night it got to the point where we were
679
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.309
convinced something very wrong was going on next door. And
680
00:30:00.349 --> 00:30:03.730
someone was getting hurt. So I called the police. But
681
00:30:03.750 --> 00:30:06.740
when the police showed up, landlord in tow, I was
682
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:10.140
told the apartment next door was vacant. The boys who
683
00:30:10.180 --> 00:30:12.740
had been living there had moved out the day before.
684
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.069
The landlord had even unlocked the apartment for the police
685
00:30:16.109 --> 00:30:20.059
to investigate and they found nothing. No people, no TV.
686
00:30:20.460 --> 00:30:24.140
The place didn't even have power. Nothing that could have
687
00:30:24.180 --> 00:30:26.380
made the kinds of noises my mother and I heard.
688
00:30:26.900 --> 00:30:28.950
I think they were convinced that I had either made
689
00:30:28.970 --> 00:30:31.529
a prank call or had a bad dream, but when
690
00:30:31.569 --> 00:30:35.789
they walked through my apartment, specifically my bedroom, they heard
691
00:30:35.930 --> 00:30:39.359
the screaming too, coming from the wall that mirrored an
692
00:30:39.460 --> 00:30:43.250
empty apartment. No one had an explanation. My landlord called
693
00:30:43.289 --> 00:30:45.609
the next day to offer me my choice of apartment
694
00:30:45.690 --> 00:30:48.490
in any of their other buildings, but I declined.
695
00:30:48.849 --> 00:30:49.170
Why?
696
00:30:49.609 --> 00:30:51.910
Because I thought I was just hearing and seeing things,
697
00:30:52.170 --> 00:30:54.950
but also because my piano was really heavy and I
698
00:30:55.019 --> 00:30:58.440
didn't have the $ 300 to move it again. Yes, I
699
00:30:58.500 --> 00:31:01.640
would totally die in a horror movie. Another family with
700
00:31:01.700 --> 00:31:03.859
a young boy lived there for a while, and I
701
00:31:03.900 --> 00:31:06.299
didn't know them very well, but they were nice. And
702
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.319
the little boy would ride his bike back and forth
703
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.549
on the deck because he wasn't allowed to ride it
704
00:31:10.569 --> 00:31:12.910
in the parking lot. And I know he got spooked
705
00:31:12.950 --> 00:31:15.049
a bunch because sometimes he would jump off his bike
706
00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:17.259
and run into the house crying, but I never knew
707
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.440
what he saw. What I remember most is his grandmother.
708
00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:23.500
I lived across from her at my old apartment building,
709
00:31:23.579 --> 00:31:26.660
so we were familiar with each other. We reconnected during
710
00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:29.509
her first and only visit to the apartment, and as
711
00:31:29.549 --> 00:31:31.829
we were trudging up the walk to the shared porch,
712
00:31:32.490 --> 00:31:34.990
she just stopped dead in her tracks, looked at the building,
713
00:31:35.430 --> 00:31:39.130
and shook her head. Nope, she said, nuh-uh, no way.
714
00:31:39.549 --> 00:31:42.230
Y'all get haunted if you want, but I'm calling on Jesus.
715
00:31:42.829 --> 00:31:45.650
And without even ringing the doorbell, she walked back to
716
00:31:45.690 --> 00:31:50.230
her car and drove away. That family lasted maybe six
717
00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:51.880
weeks before they moved out.
718
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.099
Oh, my God. This needs to come with a warning.
719
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:56.660
I know.
720
00:31:56.980 --> 00:31:59.839
There are people that seek out haunted apartments. Like, you
721
00:31:59.880 --> 00:32:01.000
need to advertise.
722
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:02.579
People will live there, I know.
723
00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:05.359
Super haunted. Many people move out. And then you'll get
724
00:32:05.380 --> 00:32:07.759
the right people who are like, ooh, I want to
725
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:08.460
live in this.
726
00:32:08.900 --> 00:32:09.259
I know.
727
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:11.910
Or is that the wrong people? Because you don't know
728
00:32:12.029 --> 00:32:13.150
why they want to live in that.
729
00:32:13.309 --> 00:32:15.789
True. I'm just thinking specifically of one of my friends
730
00:32:15.829 --> 00:32:17.670
who's always like, I want to live in a haunted apartment.
731
00:32:17.789 --> 00:32:18.450
And she's the nicest.
732
00:32:18.470 --> 00:32:20.150
Yes. But yeah, it could attract a lot of people.
733
00:32:20.190 --> 00:32:22.190
I'm sure it could attract the wrong type as well.
734
00:32:22.269 --> 00:32:23.779
Ill-intentioned people.
735
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:26.819
Okay. A friend of a friend, Shelly, moved into one
736
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.880
of the apartments further down with her new husband. They
737
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.180
stayed maybe three months or so and then moved out.
738
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:34.829
And when I met up with her sometime later, I
739
00:32:35.190 --> 00:32:37.789
asked why she moved. And she looked at me like
740
00:32:37.890 --> 00:32:41.150
I was asking a stupid question and said, that place
741
00:32:41.250 --> 00:32:43.750
is fucking haunted, Liz. And that was all she said
742
00:32:43.789 --> 00:32:46.519
about that. There is so much more that happened, like
743
00:32:46.579 --> 00:32:48.759
a man with red eyes appearing behind me in the
744
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:52.240
mirror and how I was allowed in fewer and fewer
745
00:32:52.299 --> 00:32:56.220
rooms as time went on, how my alarm system kept
746
00:32:56.259 --> 00:32:58.490
going off in the middle of the night. and how
747
00:32:58.529 --> 00:33:01.069
I still have nightmares about the place like it never
748
00:33:01.250 --> 00:33:04.450
quite let me go. But I've written way too much
749
00:33:04.470 --> 00:33:06.390
already and have to get to work on things that,
750
00:33:06.430 --> 00:33:10.089
you know, like pay bills or whatever, adulting. Anyway, love
751
00:33:10.130 --> 00:33:13.470
the podcast. I've binged like 30-ish episodes in a month.
752
00:33:13.630 --> 00:33:15.250
Keep up the creepy, Liz.
753
00:33:15.589 --> 00:33:18.950
Liz, what the hell? That's literally what is happening here.
754
00:33:19.170 --> 00:33:21.910
I mean, she lived there for four years?
755
00:33:21.910 --> 00:33:26.630
2002 to 2006? Yes, and everyone's so shocked. This whole
756
00:33:26.650 --> 00:33:29.269
time I'm like, oh, yeah, spooky things are happening. Everyone's
757
00:33:29.289 --> 00:33:32.710
super haunted. And I'm thinking, like, maybe Liz just didn't have, like,
758
00:33:32.849 --> 00:33:35.390
anything so, so crazy happen to her there.
759
00:33:35.450 --> 00:33:35.750
No.
760
00:33:35.789 --> 00:33:39.180
She's like, oh, yeah, red eyes behind me in the mirror.
761
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:39.720
Which is terrifying.
762
00:33:39.740 --> 00:33:42.930
I can't even go to all the rooms that I rent. Yeah,
763
00:33:42.970 --> 00:33:45.130
we need to know more. We need part two, Liz,
764
00:33:45.170 --> 00:33:48.359
because the fact that you lived at this place for
765
00:33:48.470 --> 00:33:52.359
four years while others couldn't even manage six weeks.
766
00:33:52.779 --> 00:33:55.539
Liz, to me, feels like that type of person who
767
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:57.720
just never gets stressed. You know, there are some people
768
00:33:57.740 --> 00:33:59.839
who are just like, oh, well, and moves on. And
769
00:34:00.099 --> 00:34:03.519
they're just like, la, la, la. That happened. Continue on.
770
00:34:03.859 --> 00:34:05.079
Look forward, not backwards.
771
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:05.440
Yeah.
772
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.259
I feel like she's a perfect example. Like something would
773
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:08.920
crash next to her and she'd be like, well, I
774
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:10.659
just won't sit right here. I'll just sit on the
775
00:34:10.699 --> 00:34:11.260
next cushion.
776
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:11.739
Right.
777
00:34:11.780 --> 00:34:14.050
Like– the bravery.
778
00:34:14.070 --> 00:34:18.940
Yeah. I need to know more because the fact that
779
00:34:18.980 --> 00:34:20.940
that little kid would jump off his bike and like
780
00:34:20.980 --> 00:34:22.880
scream and cry running into the house.
781
00:34:23.500 --> 00:34:23.800
Yes.
782
00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:27.239
And then also his grandmother who just took one look
783
00:34:27.260 --> 00:34:29.059
at the building and got back in her car and said,
784
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.989
no way. What did she see? What did she sense?
785
00:34:32.449 --> 00:34:37.989
What is in that townhouse complex that is so visible? Yeah.
786
00:34:38.610 --> 00:34:41.530
I'm also really curious about the history of the building. Like,
787
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.030
We don't hear about hot spots.
788
00:34:44.510 --> 00:34:44.889
I know.
789
00:34:44.909 --> 00:34:46.150
It's always freezing cold.
790
00:34:46.349 --> 00:34:46.489
Yeah.
791
00:34:46.550 --> 00:34:48.329
The fact that it's really hot is so weird and
792
00:34:48.349 --> 00:34:51.010
it makes me think that it's almost like a residual energy,
793
00:34:51.050 --> 00:34:53.710
like a stain from when there was a fire back
794
00:34:53.989 --> 00:34:55.130
in the day or something.
795
00:34:55.570 --> 00:34:58.429
Well, it's curious too because I wonder if that's the
796
00:34:58.489 --> 00:35:01.960
same wall. It sounds like it is, that it shares
797
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.500
that wall with the apartment or townhouse that she heard
798
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:11.170
the fighting in. So I'm curious– If there was something,
799
00:35:11.570 --> 00:35:14.829
whether it happened on that property in these buildings or
800
00:35:15.030 --> 00:35:17.550
just like just in the property in general. And like
801
00:35:17.789 --> 00:35:20.110
that's like the spot where something happened.
802
00:35:20.380 --> 00:35:20.610
Yeah.
803
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:21.159
You know what?
804
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:22.900
This is a weird thought that I had, but I
805
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:24.920
was just thinking like fires and heat and you were
806
00:35:24.940 --> 00:35:26.719
just talking about arguments. And I was like, oh, maybe
807
00:35:26.739 --> 00:35:29.840
they just got like so hot with rage. That rage
808
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.659
just like put itself onto the wall. I wonder like
809
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:39.210
truly in living life. non-paranormal, does your internal temperature raise
810
00:35:39.389 --> 00:35:42.820
at all when you're angry? Like, do certain emotions affect
811
00:35:43.059 --> 00:35:46.019
your body's temperature? It affects your heart rate.
812
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:46.559
Yeah.
813
00:35:46.579 --> 00:35:47.260
Your stress levels.
814
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:47.780
I'm sure.
815
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.010
So I'm curious about actual, like, sweat and temperature regulation.
816
00:35:52.590 --> 00:35:55.309
That's interesting. I've also, like, there are certain people, and
817
00:35:55.329 --> 00:35:58.690
I can't remember what it's called, but who they want
818
00:35:58.710 --> 00:36:01.670
to assign, like, people have colors. It's kind of like
819
00:36:01.690 --> 00:36:04.719
your aura, but... And then also sounds have colors and
820
00:36:04.780 --> 00:36:06.679
words have specific. Oh, synesthesia. Is that what it is?
821
00:36:07.099 --> 00:36:07.380
Yeah.
822
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.380
Like different colors. So I imagine that emotions kind of
823
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.250
have these colors. So why don't they have temperatures as well?
824
00:36:13.789 --> 00:36:17.170
Yeah. I'm sure it can happen. And maybe it's happening
825
00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:19.610
right here in this apartment complex. I need to know
826
00:36:19.659 --> 00:36:20.719
more about these landlords.
827
00:36:21.019 --> 00:36:21.360
I know.
828
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.900
What do they know? They have to have the most
829
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:24.380
amount of stories.
830
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:25.000
They must know a lot.
831
00:36:25.260 --> 00:36:27.679
Because if you're coming to your landlord and saying, I
832
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.059
need to break my lease because this place is haunted,
833
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.460
you don't just, for them, at least in the beginning,
834
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:34.739
they're not just like, okay, I'm not going to ask
835
00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:36.760
any follow-up questions and let you break your lease. Like,
836
00:36:37.489 --> 00:36:41.280
They had to have heard huge novels worth of stories
837
00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:44.780
from people. Oh, 1,000%. Yeah.
838
00:36:45.019 --> 00:36:49.110
Okay. Well, Liz did send us personally the link to
839
00:36:49.130 --> 00:36:51.849
the townhouses. What if I email the landlords?
840
00:36:52.469 --> 00:36:53.989
Well, we get Liz in trouble.
841
00:36:54.010 --> 00:36:56.099
I won't say that Liz sent it to us.
842
00:36:56.590 --> 00:36:56.869
Okay.
843
00:36:57.070 --> 00:36:59.449
I'll just say, room around town that this place is
844
00:36:59.550 --> 00:37:01.670
on to tell me everything.
845
00:37:02.050 --> 00:37:05.309
Tell us everything. I mean, we're all curious.
846
00:37:05.730 --> 00:37:06.670
It doesn't hurt to try.
847
00:37:06.690 --> 00:37:07.960
Yeah, maybe they'll be like.
848
00:37:08.010 --> 00:37:08.659
Cool, cool.
849
00:37:08.699 --> 00:37:09.460
We've been waiting.
850
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.239
We've been waiting for a podcast called Two Girls, One
851
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:16.260
Ghost to inquire about it. The ghost told us that
852
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:16.980
you were coming.
853
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.199
Oh my gosh. I like being in this seat. I
854
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.489
like that other people are like, oh, we're not going
855
00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:24.829
to share this information because we don't want to like
856
00:37:24.969 --> 00:37:28.039
out these- Places are people, but we still get the links,
857
00:37:28.099 --> 00:37:28.909
so we get to see.
858
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:30.179
So you and I get to.
859
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.639
It's a nice position to be in, I will say.
860
00:37:32.659 --> 00:37:33.130
It is.
861
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:34.019
All right.
862
00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:34.579
I'm going to do it.
863
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.780
Okay. I have a tale for us. This is from
864
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.349
our listener, Nikki, and it's called Amityville Horror Story.
865
00:37:41.829 --> 00:37:42.050
Ooh.
866
00:37:42.329 --> 00:37:42.809
Hi, ladies.
867
00:37:42.869 --> 00:37:45.469
I'm currently listening to episode 53, and Corinne is doing
868
00:37:45.489 --> 00:37:49.329
the Amityville Horror House. I have a story about this
869
00:37:49.590 --> 00:37:50.659
that I think you will like.
870
00:37:51.139 --> 00:37:51.360
Ooh.
871
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.489
So back in. In 2016, my friend was on a
872
00:37:54.530 --> 00:37:56.909
work trip to New York City and we explored the
873
00:37:56.949 --> 00:37:59.320
day in the city and then took a train back
874
00:37:59.340 --> 00:38:03.280
to her hotel, which was in Amityville, New York. Mind you,
875
00:38:03.340 --> 00:38:06.420
it was 2.30 a.m. when we arrived at the train station.
876
00:38:06.900 --> 00:38:09.289
We tried to request an Uber multiple times and every
877
00:38:09.329 --> 00:38:11.469
time someone would accept and then they would cancel within
878
00:38:11.510 --> 00:38:13.980
two minutes. We were all alone in the dead of
879
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.800
night in Amityville with nowhere to go. There was this
880
00:38:16.900 --> 00:38:19.739
creepy car that kept driving through the train station's parking
881
00:38:19.780 --> 00:38:22.380
lot and slowing down once they got near us. They
882
00:38:22.420 --> 00:38:24.820
circled a few times until the car stopped in front
883
00:38:24.860 --> 00:38:26.900
of us. It was just a single guy by himself
884
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:28.880
and he asked if we needed a ride. We quickly
885
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.179
responded with, no thank you, our friend is coming to
886
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.440
pick us up. He then continues by saying, you girls
887
00:38:33.500 --> 00:38:37.179
shouldn't be out here all alone at night. Bad things happen.
888
00:38:37.780 --> 00:38:39.820
And then he drove away. To say we were freaked
889
00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:42.369
out was an understatement. But then we finally found an
890
00:38:42.469 --> 00:38:44.710
Uber and made it safely to her hotel. Cut to
891
00:38:44.750 --> 00:38:46.590
the next day. I was home safe in my bed
892
00:38:46.670 --> 00:38:49.289
and I logged into Hulu to watch some show that
893
00:38:49.329 --> 00:38:52.110
I'm sure I was binging. And guess what it showed
894
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:58.059
as my last movie watched? Freaking Amityville horror. I flipped out.
895
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.539
No one has logged into my Hulu account except for me.
896
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.800
And I can promise I did not watch that movie recently.
897
00:39:05.460 --> 00:39:08.739
It was very, very, very weird to experience, and I
898
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:12.360
still will never know how that appeared on my recently
899
00:39:12.420 --> 00:39:15.340
watched when I literally had just been in that town
900
00:39:15.380 --> 00:39:17.840
the night before. Thanks for the spooky stories. I love
901
00:39:17.860 --> 00:39:20.289
listening to you throughout my workday every day.
902
00:39:20.469 --> 00:39:20.750
Nikki.
903
00:39:21.150 --> 00:39:24.449
Oh. Okay, well, that guy, I'm so glad you guys
904
00:39:24.469 --> 00:39:25.789
did not get in his car.
905
00:39:25.929 --> 00:39:29.320
It's like a real life horror meets paranormal horror oh
906
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:33.039
my gosh so creepy that is terrifying it reminds me
907
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:34.880
of oh i sent you a tiktok today which is
908
00:39:34.940 --> 00:39:37.699
so backwards of our relationship usually it's the other way
909
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:39.989
around usually it's you get eight a day and i
910
00:39:40.030 --> 00:39:44.630
never know a response from you But you watch them
911
00:39:44.650 --> 00:39:46.289
because then when we actually talk, you're like, oh, and
912
00:39:46.309 --> 00:39:47.110
then that one that you sent.
913
00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:49.309
Because then I watch them and then I find myself
914
00:39:49.349 --> 00:39:52.019
in a black hole of TikTok and then I forget
915
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.519
about everything else in the world. But this one that
916
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.340
I sent you was this woman doing like Halloween makeup
917
00:39:57.380 --> 00:39:59.900
and telling a scary story. And she was telling the
918
00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:03.059
story of like this guy and he was hitchhiking and
919
00:40:03.099 --> 00:40:05.309
got a ride home with this guy. But as they
920
00:40:05.329 --> 00:40:08.590
were driving, he like started getting weird vibes. And in
921
00:40:08.610 --> 00:40:10.739
the middle of the drive, like they had stopped at
922
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:12.199
like a stop sign and he like jumped out of
923
00:40:12.219 --> 00:40:14.059
the car and got out because he just felt like
924
00:40:14.139 --> 00:40:15.559
really unsafe and weird. Good.
925
00:40:15.659 --> 00:40:16.320
Trust your gut.
926
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.039
Yes. And so then a couple years later, probably like 10,
927
00:40:20.019 --> 00:40:24.179
15 years later, he's watching something on TV and they're
928
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.070
interviewing a guy who's on death row and for killing
929
00:40:28.090 --> 00:40:30.190
a bunch of people. One of the questions was like,
930
00:40:30.550 --> 00:40:33.190
how did you decide to take off all the door
931
00:40:33.230 --> 00:40:37.130
handles and on the inside of your car. And he says, well,
932
00:40:37.409 --> 00:40:39.329
the very first time I was going to kill someone,
933
00:40:39.909 --> 00:40:42.869
the guy knew better and jumped out of the car
934
00:40:43.170 --> 00:40:46.360
when we had stopped. So after that, he took all
935
00:40:46.389 --> 00:40:48.760
the door handles off from the inside of his car.
936
00:40:48.780 --> 00:40:51.840
And then they show a picture of this guy and
937
00:40:51.860 --> 00:40:53.519
it's freaking John Wayne Gacy.
938
00:40:53.539 --> 00:40:54.940
It is? Yeah.
939
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:56.239
Oh my God.
940
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:58.449
And the guy who had like gone out of the
941
00:40:58.469 --> 00:41:00.150
car and had the audacity to like get out because
942
00:41:00.170 --> 00:41:04.289
he was scared. immediately recognizes him as the guy who
943
00:41:04.550 --> 00:41:06.769
had picked him up when he was hitchhiking. So he
944
00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:09.230
was going to be his first victim.
945
00:41:09.369 --> 00:41:11.030
You know what's so creepy is I feel like so
946
00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:12.789
many serial killers have that story.
947
00:41:12.889 --> 00:41:13.210
Yeah.
948
00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:16.090
There's that one person who got away and it's just
949
00:41:16.130 --> 00:41:20.050
someone else's creepy tale. And until you make that connection
950
00:41:20.110 --> 00:41:22.199
and you see that interview or you see that thing, you.
951
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:23.780
Don't realize it was you.
952
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:24.239
Yeah.
953
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.039
And it's also horrifying because it's like, One person escapes.
954
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.360
Thank God their life is saved. But then that other person,
955
00:41:30.940 --> 00:41:34.739
the killer, is taking notes and making adjustments to do,
956
00:41:34.989 --> 00:41:37.469
in their eyes, like better at what they intended to do.
957
00:41:37.489 --> 00:41:38.730
Which is terrifying. Yeah.
958
00:41:39.170 --> 00:41:39.409
Yeah.
959
00:41:39.530 --> 00:41:42.530
They're becoming more and more dangerous as time goes on.
960
00:41:43.050 --> 00:41:45.860
But that's all to say that, Nikki, I'm so glad
961
00:41:45.889 --> 00:41:48.400
that you did not get in that car because who
962
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:49.679
knows what would have happened.
963
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:50.260
Right.
964
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.440
Because even if it was some guy who was just like,
965
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.820
maybe on his phone or something and in the parking lot,
966
00:41:55.940 --> 00:41:59.269
you're not just like randomly driving around and like making
967
00:41:59.329 --> 00:42:01.650
loops and slowing down by someone. Like if he really
968
00:42:01.710 --> 00:42:05.590
were well-intentioned and he wanted to intervene, there wouldn't be
969
00:42:05.630 --> 00:42:08.570
that kind of like slow buildup to the interaction. He
970
00:42:08.590 --> 00:42:10.750
would have just pulled over and said, Are you guys okay?
971
00:42:10.789 --> 00:42:12.429
Do you need me to call someone for you?
972
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:12.969
Yes.
973
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.360
Don't be like– Like, have some self-awareness at least.
974
00:42:15.420 --> 00:42:17.400
Hey, get in my car. You guys shouldn't be out
975
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:19.099
this late. Bad things happen.
976
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:19.840
Right.
977
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.460
It's so creepy. But, okay, here's– why don't we put
978
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:23.510
a paranormal spin on it?
979
00:42:23.739 --> 00:42:23.820
Okay.
980
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.570
The fact that her Hulu, Nikki's Hulu, said that she'd
981
00:42:26.590 --> 00:42:29.550
been watching Amityville Horror when she hadn't been, but she'd
982
00:42:29.570 --> 00:42:32.329
been in that town, it makes me wonder if this
983
00:42:32.389 --> 00:42:36.860
is like a ghost car, ghost demon type of thing,
984
00:42:36.909 --> 00:42:37.940
a weird appearance.
985
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:38.079
Yeah.
986
00:42:38.420 --> 00:42:41.019
And also, why are all the Ubers not wanting to
987
00:42:41.059 --> 00:42:42.639
go there? Why are they all canceling?
988
00:42:43.179 --> 00:42:43.480
I don't know.
989
00:42:43.500 --> 00:42:46.019
What happens late at night where Ubers are like, oh,
990
00:42:46.179 --> 00:42:47.139
I have to pick them up there?
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00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:51.699
Decline. Decline. I don't know. It is also interesting. It's
992
00:42:51.739 --> 00:42:56.079
like Hulu knew that she was living Amityville Horror. And
993
00:42:56.099 --> 00:42:58.980
so it played it. It was like you recently viewed
994
00:42:59.019 --> 00:43:00.639
it because you recently lived it.
995
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:01.940
So, so creepy.
996
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:02.639
So, so creepy.
997
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:03.380
So creepy.
998
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:05.199
It's one of those things where I just want to
999
00:43:05.219 --> 00:43:08.090
like hold myself and rock back and forth. Self-soothe.
1000
00:43:08.829 --> 00:43:13.349
This is a story from Tasha and it's two parts.
1001
00:43:13.769 --> 00:43:17.969
So it's called late drive home. She says, hello, my
1002
00:43:18.010 --> 00:43:21.889
name's Tasha. This was my first and only supernatural experience,
1003
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.099
but I've looked back on it many times since the
1004
00:43:24.139 --> 00:43:27.699
day it happened, wondering about the story behind it. I
1005
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.539
used to close a grocery store every night at 11 PM.
1006
00:43:31.019 --> 00:43:33.059
It took me about 15 to 30 minutes to clean
1007
00:43:33.179 --> 00:43:36.260
up and an extra 30 minutes to get home. I
1008
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.539
lived at what we called a village. It was a
1009
00:43:38.579 --> 00:43:42.030
big tourist attraction. And though the village itself was small,
1010
00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:45.070
there were lots of vacation homes surrounded by trees and
1011
00:43:45.110 --> 00:43:48.710
dim lights. It was a week before Halloween. And after
1012
00:43:48.750 --> 00:43:50.849
a long day at work, I turned on some music
1013
00:43:50.929 --> 00:43:53.909
and headed home. The night was dark with only my
1014
00:43:53.969 --> 00:43:57.349
headlights guiding my way. And with the music taking over me,
1015
00:43:57.530 --> 00:44:00.239
I was relaxed and at peace. But on my road
1016
00:44:00.300 --> 00:44:02.800
a few blocks from my house, I saw something that
1017
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:05.860
made me freeze. I turned my music off and slowed
1018
00:44:05.889 --> 00:44:08.460
my car down to really take in what I was seeing.
1019
00:44:08.860 --> 00:44:11.460
It was midnight and I was looking at a woman.
1020
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.760
She was standing at the front of the driveway wearing
1021
00:44:14.820 --> 00:44:18.590
what looked like a pink nightgown with black hair hanging
1022
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.389
down over her shoulders. It's like she was frozen with
1023
00:44:22.429 --> 00:44:25.530
her head down staring at the ground. As I drove past,
1024
00:44:25.610 --> 00:44:30.010
I remember looking in my rearview mirror and seeing nothing. Today,
1025
00:44:30.030 --> 00:44:32.489
I did some research on deaths in that area, and
1026
00:44:32.510 --> 00:44:34.570
though I couldn't find a picture of the woman herself,
1027
00:44:35.190 --> 00:44:39.030
I found something that gave me the chills. In 2010,
1028
00:44:39.030 --> 00:44:41.510
a man had strangled his wife and child, leaving their
1029
00:44:41.530 --> 00:44:44.320
bodies in the bedroom, had slit the throat of his
1030
00:44:44.380 --> 00:44:47.539
cats and dog, and then killed himself. All of this
1031
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.760
was just three blocks from the house that I was
1032
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:51.739
staying in. Could it be the woman on the side
1033
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.300
of the road? Your podcast had encouraged me to look
1034
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.599
deeper into it, and I'm a new fan and I'm
1035
00:44:56.780 --> 00:45:01.039
in love with your stories. Definitely can't wait to hear more. Then,
1036
00:45:01.059 --> 00:45:05.650
so this was sent in 2018. Two years later, she
1037
00:45:05.690 --> 00:45:08.849
responded saying, hey girls, I know it's been a while,
1038
00:45:09.010 --> 00:45:11.210
but I wanted to give you an update. I got
1039
00:45:11.269 --> 00:45:14.670
very obsessed with this story. I went through endless scenarios
1040
00:45:14.750 --> 00:45:17.010
on how I could go back and help her. I
1041
00:45:17.110 --> 00:45:20.159
even drove my friend up at 3 a.m. Halloween night
1042
00:45:20.219 --> 00:45:22.159
to see if I could find her again. There was
1043
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.900
no luck, though we freaked ourselves out with Halloween music
1044
00:45:24.980 --> 00:45:27.000
and the what if something crawled in front of the
1045
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.219
car talk. Anyway, months later, I had a dream of
1046
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.920
the ghost. I wondered how I could help her, and
1047
00:45:32.940 --> 00:45:35.519
she told me, if you help me, there is no
1048
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:36.179
going back.
1049
00:45:37.300 --> 00:45:37.940
What?
1050
00:45:38.219 --> 00:45:41.110
When I woke up, I started worrying. There was no
1051
00:45:41.210 --> 00:45:44.210
way I wanted any evil in my life, but of course,
1052
00:45:44.289 --> 00:45:47.429
my scenarios continued. I even asked my friend to go
1053
00:45:47.489 --> 00:45:49.949
back out with me the next Halloween. The start of
1054
00:45:49.989 --> 00:45:53.519
the next Halloween was terrifying. I had recently gotten married,
1055
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.849
and this man is my life. I had never once
1056
00:45:56.889 --> 00:45:59.630
had a dark dream about him until this day. The
1057
00:45:59.650 --> 00:46:02.530
dream started normal. It was calming and even a bit
1058
00:46:02.570 --> 00:46:05.610
of fun, but then someone showed up. Her eyes turned
1059
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.860
black and we knew she was bad news. Later, her
1060
00:46:08.900 --> 00:46:11.619
and a man cornered us in a public restroom. The
1061
00:46:11.659 --> 00:46:14.579
walls and ceilings were cracking and they came at us
1062
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.860
with needles. The woman lunged for my husband, but I
1063
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.000
got in her way and the needle she held went
1064
00:46:20.059 --> 00:46:23.119
deep into my arm. I went paralyzed, dropping to the
1065
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.920
floor and and watched them as I tortured my husband
1066
00:46:25.940 --> 00:46:28.619
in front of me all while laughing. The last thing
1067
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.380
I saw before I woke up was my husband slowly
1068
00:46:31.420 --> 00:46:34.449
dying on the tile floor. Then I woke up and
1069
00:46:34.489 --> 00:46:37.949
that Halloween day was torture. I went home early because
1070
00:46:38.090 --> 00:46:41.070
everything just seemed wrong. All I wanted that day was
1071
00:46:41.110 --> 00:46:43.469
to be with my husband. And just today I was
1072
00:46:43.510 --> 00:46:46.110
telling my ghost story to a coworker and someone else
1073
00:46:46.170 --> 00:46:49.550
overheard me. She exclaimed that she knew the lady that
1074
00:46:49.590 --> 00:46:51.710
I saw on the road. that this family owned a
1075
00:46:51.750 --> 00:46:54.170
laundromat that she used to go to. When I asked
1076
00:46:54.190 --> 00:46:56.030
her what the mother looked like, she told me she
1077
00:46:56.070 --> 00:46:58.679
had long, dark brown hair. I wonder if she was
1078
00:46:58.699 --> 00:47:01.440
looking for her son, she said. My chest got heavy
1079
00:47:01.659 --> 00:47:04.559
and I felt tears well up. I couldn't believe she
1080
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:06.760
was really the mother and the thought that she may
1081
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.079
have been looking for her eight-year-old son that may have
1082
00:47:09.099 --> 00:47:13.090
already passed on broke my heart. She believes, being my friend,
1083
00:47:13.409 --> 00:47:15.409
that the ghost of the mother had tried to protect
1084
00:47:15.469 --> 00:47:18.710
me from going out on Halloween night. It definitely did
1085
00:47:18.769 --> 00:47:21.909
not feel safe, So I guess always follow your gut.
1086
00:47:22.429 --> 00:47:25.110
Mine may have decided no matter how tempting to not
1087
00:47:25.150 --> 00:47:28.530
go ghost hunting on Halloween night. Stay safe and see
1088
00:47:28.550 --> 00:47:29.889
you on the other side, Tasha.
1089
00:47:29.909 --> 00:47:35.269
Okay. This is so heartbreaking. I feel like there are
1090
00:47:35.409 --> 00:47:40.050
too many instances of this type of familicide that we
1091
00:47:40.070 --> 00:47:41.659
hear about and it's horrendous.
1092
00:47:42.030 --> 00:47:42.300
Yeah.
1093
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.519
It's giving me Amityville horror vibes.
1094
00:47:45.329 --> 00:47:45.750
Yeah.
1095
00:47:45.769 --> 00:47:48.199
What if there is some sort of demon or some
1096
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:51.659
sort of presence that takes over, preys on one person
1097
00:47:51.780 --> 00:47:54.019
in the family, and then that person is like driven
1098
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:57.840
to kill everyone. And I know that Tasha's coworker was
1099
00:47:58.380 --> 00:48:01.050
suggesting that it actually truly was the woman who was
1100
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.349
murdered and she was looking for her son. But I
1101
00:48:03.369 --> 00:48:06.090
just feel like the messages and the dreams felt so
1102
00:48:06.349 --> 00:48:09.329
ominous that it almost makes me wonder if there is
1103
00:48:09.510 --> 00:48:13.949
this like darker entity that then took on the image
1104
00:48:14.219 --> 00:48:16.389
of one of its victims, this woman.
1105
00:48:16.409 --> 00:48:17.289
Right, of this woman.
1106
00:48:17.309 --> 00:48:19.750
And is now trying to like use her image to then,
1107
00:48:19.889 --> 00:48:23.670
you know, go and maybe if Tasha had let her in, this,
1108
00:48:23.969 --> 00:48:26.969
not truly her, but like this demon presenting itself as
1109
00:48:26.989 --> 00:48:30.630
this woman. It then would have taken on the appearance
1110
00:48:30.789 --> 00:48:35.110
of her husband when she was driven to kill her husband.
1111
00:48:35.150 --> 00:48:39.130
No, that's terrifying. I mean, it's so interesting because I
1112
00:48:39.690 --> 00:48:43.530
totally buy into this theory because she had that dream
1113
00:48:43.909 --> 00:48:46.070
and the woman said, if you help me, there is
1114
00:48:46.130 --> 00:48:49.230
no going back. So it makes me think that for
1115
00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:52.239
a brief second, the real woman, the real spirit was
1116
00:48:52.300 --> 00:48:55.480
able to get through to Tasha to give her this message.
1117
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:57.139
And then, I mean.
1118
00:48:57.869 --> 00:48:59.860
It's hard to decide because it's like that nightmare that
1119
00:48:59.900 --> 00:49:02.719
she had with her husband, too, is so dark. But
1120
00:49:02.739 --> 00:49:04.679
that could have been the real Tasha being like, this
1121
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.239
is all that will come for you if you keep
1122
00:49:07.300 --> 00:49:08.300
following this lead.
1123
00:49:08.500 --> 00:49:10.900
Or maybe it was just supposed to be more innocent
1124
00:49:10.980 --> 00:49:13.349
where it was like, if you do try to help me,
1125
00:49:13.449 --> 00:49:16.369
you're going to learn things that you could never unlearn.
1126
00:49:16.690 --> 00:49:19.210
You'll never be the same. And it's horrifying.
1127
00:49:19.289 --> 00:49:23.199
It's so sad. it's so sad and disturbing and like
1128
00:49:23.619 --> 00:49:25.920
to think that this woman is looking for her son
1129
00:49:25.940 --> 00:49:28.780
yeah and can't find him i mean.
1130
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.860
It's so sad it's so depressing oh my.
1131
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.119
Gosh and i mean familicide is just like awful it's
1132
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:36.559
just tragic I know.
1133
00:49:36.579 --> 00:49:40.059
I wonder if anyone else has seen her. That spirit? Yeah.
1134
00:49:40.619 --> 00:49:42.920
I mean, it was recent. Like, there are people that
1135
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.110
are alive that knew the family quite well.
1136
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:45.650
Yeah.
1137
00:49:46.050 --> 00:49:48.130
That I'm sure still live in the area. That feels
1138
00:49:48.170 --> 00:49:49.789
like such a raw, open wound.
1139
00:49:49.909 --> 00:49:50.409
Mm-hmm.
1140
00:49:50.809 --> 00:49:54.809
So I'm curious what people have seen, maybe, or experienced
1141
00:49:54.889 --> 00:49:56.679
and been like, oh, it's just my own grief.
1142
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:58.820
Right, and just shook it off. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
1143
00:49:59.139 --> 00:50:01.179
Okay. Well, I'm going to tell you about a haunted
1144
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:04.119
farm now. Great. This is from Brenda.
1145
00:50:04.139 --> 00:50:04.239
Yeah.
1146
00:50:04.789 --> 00:50:06.349
I'd just like to start off by saying I really
1147
00:50:06.369 --> 00:50:08.739
like your podcast, but also this is quite a long story.
1148
00:50:09.219 --> 00:50:10.960
I grew up on my family farm that has been
1149
00:50:10.980 --> 00:50:13.920
in our families for seven generations. The farmhouse itself is
1150
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.880
one of the oldest in the county, and it's been
1151
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:19.420
around forever. There were never stories about it or anything
1152
00:50:19.460 --> 00:50:22.280
paranormal until we moved in. My mother grew up in
1153
00:50:22.300 --> 00:50:24.829
the city, so small town life was new to her.
1154
00:50:25.389 --> 00:50:27.449
But the house my mom grew up in was considered
1155
00:50:27.469 --> 00:50:30.010
to be haunted. My mom tells stories of waking up
1156
00:50:30.050 --> 00:50:32.730
and her entire room was flipped around or seeing shadows
1157
00:50:32.769 --> 00:50:35.409
dance across the walls in her bedrooms. Cabinets would open
1158
00:50:35.469 --> 00:50:37.280
and she would see ghosts everywhere.
1159
00:50:37.460 --> 00:50:38.000
Whoa.
1160
00:50:38.940 --> 00:50:41.920
Once again, the house didn't have any stories like this.
1161
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.320
But when we moved in, odd things began to happen.
1162
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.980
Doors would open and close at random times. My mom
1163
00:50:48.019 --> 00:50:51.380
and brother came to see shadow people and our dogs
1164
00:50:51.420 --> 00:50:54.260
would go crazy when they were in the house. And
1165
00:50:54.300 --> 00:50:57.940
now my dad and I, you know, were humored by
1166
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.079
my mom and my brother. And we like to freak
1167
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.789
them out about it. when we didn't think really anything
1168
00:51:02.909 --> 00:51:06.150
of it until the two of us went into the
1169
00:51:06.210 --> 00:51:08.570
barns one night. I grew up on a dairy farm,
1170
00:51:08.650 --> 00:51:11.150
and for anybody who knows anything about that, you wake
1171
00:51:11.230 --> 00:51:14.090
up early and you go to bed late. So today
1172
00:51:14.219 --> 00:51:16.900
was a really late day. It was about 3 a.m.,
1173
00:51:17.019 --> 00:51:18.940
and my dad and I decided to just not go
1174
00:51:18.980 --> 00:51:20.940
to sleep and just do some stuff that we'd been
1175
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.960
putting off in the barn. And while we were walking in,
1176
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:27.469
the door slams shut behind us. We thought, That that
1177
00:51:27.510 --> 00:51:30.090
was weird, but we also figured it couldn't be too
1178
00:51:30.130 --> 00:51:33.730
weird because, you know, wind usually maybe at this time
1179
00:51:33.809 --> 00:51:36.300
and the cattle are sleeping or just starting to wake up.
1180
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.880
They don't usually make a big fuss when my dad
1181
00:51:38.900 --> 00:51:40.360
and I come in, so we're just used to it.
1182
00:51:40.380 --> 00:51:42.980
But today they were all up and they were awake
1183
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:46.199
and they were staring at just one part of the pen.
1184
00:51:46.619 --> 00:51:49.599
They weren't staring into a corner. They weren't staring at
1185
00:51:49.659 --> 00:51:52.780
the middle part. They were all just staring at that
1186
00:51:53.059 --> 00:51:55.730
one spot and they looked to be in fear. And
1187
00:51:55.750 --> 00:51:58.150
so this obviously freaks out my dad and I, but
1188
00:51:58.250 --> 00:52:00.230
there was work to be done and there's no time
1189
00:52:00.269 --> 00:52:03.230
to be afraid. So my dad was just sweeping and
1190
00:52:03.289 --> 00:52:06.650
mopping out our bottom office area and I was helping him.
1191
00:52:06.750 --> 00:52:08.369
And then he asked, hey, do you want to go
1192
00:52:08.409 --> 00:52:10.809
take some samples of hay and figure out how much
1193
00:52:10.869 --> 00:52:13.989
we have of each? We have to go about 20
1194
00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:16.400
feet up through the hatch door to the hayloft and
1195
00:52:16.420 --> 00:52:18.260
I have absolutely no fear of heights. So I spend
1196
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:20.079
most of my time up in the hayloft and in
1197
00:52:20.219 --> 00:52:23.219
our hayloft, there's a small part that goes down the
1198
00:52:23.260 --> 00:52:26.320
entire front wall, and it rolls down. But we had
1199
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.539
it up because it was 3am, and we'd just taken
1200
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:30.539
out a bunch of hay two days ago. So I
1201
00:52:30.579 --> 00:52:32.739
was up there checking, making sure all the hay was good,
1202
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:35.469
making sure that everything was up to what we needed
1203
00:52:35.489 --> 00:52:37.909
it to be, when all of a sudden, the large
1204
00:52:37.969 --> 00:52:41.550
doors start to go down. And it wasn't a slow
1205
00:52:41.590 --> 00:52:44.030
down like it usually would be because it's on a
1206
00:52:44.050 --> 00:52:47.510
pulley system. So it runs very gradually down. But this
1207
00:52:47.570 --> 00:52:51.139
is like shut down super fast. And it scared me
1208
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:54.659
because that shouldn't happen at all. And maybe it fell,
1209
00:52:54.739 --> 00:52:56.670
but there's no possible way for it to fall because
1210
00:52:56.690 --> 00:52:58.889
there's a system of about 20 locks that you have
1211
00:52:58.929 --> 00:53:01.750
to undo to get it to go all the way down.
1212
00:53:02.110 --> 00:53:04.469
But this just broke off clean. So I ran faster
1213
00:53:04.510 --> 00:53:06.369
than I ever have in my entire life to the ladder.
1214
00:53:06.469 --> 00:53:08.349
I climbed down to my dad and he was like,
1215
00:53:08.650 --> 00:53:10.550
what was that? And I told him and I said,
1216
00:53:10.829 --> 00:53:12.949
the door just came down. I don't know what happened,
1217
00:53:13.329 --> 00:53:15.510
but this is bad. All the locks are broken and
1218
00:53:15.550 --> 00:53:18.159
I don't know what happened. Then my younger brother comes
1219
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.480
running in. He asked us who was standing on the
1220
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.559
door to the loft, why it was open, and then
1221
00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:27.539
chills ran through my body. I look at my dad's face,
1222
00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:30.119
and I will never forget. There's no possible way for
1223
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.159
anybody to get up there without going up the ladder,
1224
00:53:33.219 --> 00:53:36.030
which my dad and I currently stood under. It was
1225
00:53:36.110 --> 00:53:39.409
absolutely terrifying in my brain, and I just thought, it's impossible.
1226
00:53:39.510 --> 00:53:41.469
Nobody can be up there. What is he talking about?
1227
00:53:41.829 --> 00:53:45.139
I ran up that ladder so fast. And I could
1228
00:53:45.179 --> 00:53:47.239
see who I thought my brother was talking about. This
1229
00:53:47.420 --> 00:53:50.719
tall seven foot, bigger than a bull man standing there
1230
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:53.280
staring out over the farm. So I ran to him yelling,
1231
00:53:53.579 --> 00:53:55.360
what are you doing here? This is private property.
1232
00:53:55.380 --> 00:53:55.820
Oh my God.
1233
00:53:56.059 --> 00:53:58.400
As soon as I got close enough to him, which
1234
00:53:58.619 --> 00:54:00.360
why was I trying to fight someone twice the size
1235
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.320
of me? I'll never know. For context, I'm five foot
1236
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:04.840
five and 120 pounds. But as soon as I got
1237
00:54:04.860 --> 00:54:08.000
close to him, he disappeared. I almost fell off the loft,
1238
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:10.760
which in hindsight would have been about a 30 foot drop.
1239
00:54:11.659 --> 00:54:11.880
Then.
1240
00:54:12.550 --> 00:54:15.630
As I'm losing my balance, something grabbed the back of
1241
00:54:15.690 --> 00:54:18.570
my shirt and pulled me back. When I turned around,
1242
00:54:18.590 --> 00:54:21.510
there was a petite woman giving me a sad smile
1243
00:54:21.929 --> 00:54:23.949
that felt like one of a mother who lost her child.
1244
00:54:24.329 --> 00:54:26.289
I stared back at her and I whispered, thank you.
1245
00:54:26.610 --> 00:54:29.920
A single tear fell down her face and then she disappeared.
1246
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:30.639
Oh my gosh.
1247
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:33.099
My dad, who'd seen the whole thing, looked like he'd
1248
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.190
seen a ghost, which he had. And the two of
1249
00:54:35.289 --> 00:54:38.429
us stayed quiet during milking, still shocked by what had
1250
00:54:38.469 --> 00:54:41.090
just happened. One of my dad's workers had even made
1251
00:54:41.139 --> 00:54:43.320
a comment on it. The next night, we'd woken up
1252
00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:47.340
at 3.30 a.m. for morning milking. A little earlier than usual,
1253
00:54:47.420 --> 00:54:49.260
so we decided to hang out in the office area
1254
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.139
while we waited for the other workers to show up
1255
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:53.659
as a creeping feeling began to close in on both
1256
00:54:53.699 --> 00:54:56.329
of our hearts as if something was grabbing and twisting it.
1257
00:54:56.980 --> 00:54:59.389
And a few minutes later, the same woman showed up
1258
00:54:59.449 --> 00:55:01.989
in front of me and kept beckoning me as if
1259
00:55:02.030 --> 00:55:04.150
to say, follow me. I don't know what it was
1260
00:55:04.210 --> 00:55:07.389
about because usually I'm not a very trusting person, but
1261
00:55:07.429 --> 00:55:09.769
for some reason I follow her with no fear. She
1262
00:55:09.809 --> 00:55:12.090
showed me to a small area between pastures that we
1263
00:55:12.130 --> 00:55:15.210
don't go by very often. And then as if I
1264
00:55:15.250 --> 00:55:18.289
was back in time, I heard two men arguing, a gunshot,
1265
00:55:18.329 --> 00:55:20.570
and then the sound of digging. I looked at the
1266
00:55:20.610 --> 00:55:22.250
mother and then back at the place that she was
1267
00:55:22.309 --> 00:55:25.150
pointing to and a large man there was staring at
1268
00:55:25.190 --> 00:55:28.070
the farm in a look of longing. And then both
1269
00:55:28.110 --> 00:55:31.210
of them disappeared. I walk back to the barn thinking
1270
00:55:31.449 --> 00:55:33.570
of the look of longing on the man's face and
1271
00:55:33.590 --> 00:55:35.949
the look of pride on the woman's. And it hurts
1272
00:55:36.010 --> 00:55:38.550
me thinking of how much the man missed something. When
1273
00:55:38.590 --> 00:55:39.880
I got back to the barn, I told my dad
1274
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:41.980
what had just happened. And he told me something similar
1275
00:55:42.019 --> 00:55:44.900
had happened to him, except he heard a man laughing
1276
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:48.119
maniacally and the sound of digging. The two of us
1277
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:50.880
went about morning chores, shook up for the second day
1278
00:55:50.900 --> 00:55:52.920
in a row. And that day, the two of us
1279
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.590
went to the places that the woman had shown me
1280
00:55:55.989 --> 00:55:58.110
and the place that the man had shown my dad.
1281
00:55:58.539 --> 00:56:01.039
The two of us decided to dig into the farm history,
1282
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.260
and after hours of researching, we found out about my
1283
00:56:04.300 --> 00:56:07.510
dad's grandpa and his brothers. The story goes that there
1284
00:56:07.550 --> 00:56:09.710
were three of them, and they came into a vast
1285
00:56:09.789 --> 00:56:12.309
fortune at one point, but for some reason, it was
1286
00:56:12.590 --> 00:56:15.409
never seen or used again after a week of having it.
1287
00:56:15.630 --> 00:56:16.050
A week?
1288
00:56:16.309 --> 00:56:16.670
Whoa.
1289
00:56:17.050 --> 00:56:20.829
One week? Jeez. What the hell? What happened? I'm very confused.
1290
00:56:21.510 --> 00:56:24.530
But two weeks later, the eldest brother was reported missing.
1291
00:56:24.710 --> 00:56:26.309
This is what happened.
1292
00:56:26.329 --> 00:56:28.380
Here we go. Here are the answers. And a week
1293
00:56:28.429 --> 00:56:31.219
after that, the middle brother moved out of the country.
1294
00:56:31.579 --> 00:56:34.460
So we went to go ask my great grandpa about it.
1295
00:56:34.619 --> 00:56:37.019
When we told him the story, a single tear sank
1296
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.559
down his cheek and a small smile appeared on his face.
1297
00:56:39.739 --> 00:56:42.039
He said, my middle brother killed my eldest in a
1298
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:44.340
feud about what they should do with the money. The
1299
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:46.679
eldest had wanted to use it to help their mother
1300
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:49.730
and use the rest for the farm as security. while
1301
00:56:49.769 --> 00:56:52.070
the middle had wanted to build a big flashy place
1302
00:56:52.130 --> 00:56:54.449
and spend all the money in one go. My great-grandpa
1303
00:56:54.489 --> 00:56:56.639
wanted to help their mother, but also to put a
1304
00:56:56.659 --> 00:56:59.719
little bit aside for the farm. But my great-grandpa said
1305
00:56:59.739 --> 00:57:03.940
that when the eldest brother disappeared, he had suspicions until
1306
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:06.519
his son, my grandpa, came up to him and asked
1307
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:10.059
why Uncle Rob shot Uncle Bill, because he thought they
1308
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:11.699
weren't supposed to point guns at him.
1309
00:57:12.179 --> 00:57:12.840
Oh my gosh.
1310
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:15.739
When my great-grandpa realized what had happened and that his
1311
00:57:15.820 --> 00:57:19.530
six-year-old son... Had seen it, he threatened Rob to leave
1312
00:57:19.570 --> 00:57:22.050
the country or he would kill him. But he never
1313
00:57:22.130 --> 00:57:24.670
found out what Rob did with Bill. My father and
1314
00:57:24.710 --> 00:57:26.309
I knew what we had to do. When we dug
1315
00:57:26.349 --> 00:57:28.309
up the spot that the woman had shown me, we
1316
00:57:28.349 --> 00:57:30.920
found the body of a seven foot tall man and.
1317
00:57:30.909 --> 00:57:34.800
We knew who it was. My window just opened. What?
1318
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:35.940
What do you what?
1319
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:39.190
It just shut again. But this window.
1320
00:57:39.590 --> 00:57:41.969
How does that open? That's a sliding like up.
1321
00:57:42.190 --> 00:57:43.369
No, it opens inwards.
1322
00:57:43.849 --> 00:57:44.269
Oh, it does?
1323
00:57:44.449 --> 00:57:45.550
But the latch was closed.
1324
00:57:45.969 --> 00:57:47.780
Oh my God. You need to make sure no one's
1325
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:48.889
trying to get in your window.
1326
00:57:49.010 --> 00:57:50.699
Well, I'm on the second story and there's no way
1327
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:51.280
that they could.
1328
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:55.469
What the fuck? Oh, this is scary. I wonder if-
1329
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:57.179
Do you want- Do you want to close it? Do
1330
00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:58.239
you want me to watch you close it?
1331
00:57:58.239 --> 00:57:58.420
No, no, no.
1332
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:01.570
It's okay. It kind of closed again. I'll latch it later.
1333
00:58:01.590 --> 00:58:02.329
I'm too scared to go.
1334
00:58:02.349 --> 00:58:03.300
To go near it.
1335
00:58:03.510 --> 00:58:06.190
I'm curious if I was sitting like this covering it
1336
00:58:06.289 --> 00:58:07.150
or if I'm like this.
1337
00:58:07.590 --> 00:58:07.949
I don't know.
1338
00:58:08.110 --> 00:58:08.929
Because we're recording.
1339
00:58:09.230 --> 00:58:12.070
We'll see. It's hard because there's so much sunlight coming out.
1340
00:58:12.179 --> 00:58:12.519
I know.
1341
00:58:12.539 --> 00:58:13.940
So it's like blasted with light. So I'm not sure
1342
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:15.300
if we'd be able to see anything anyway.
1343
00:58:15.420 --> 00:58:18.659
This is at an hour and 15. Okay. I'm going
1344
00:58:18.699 --> 00:58:20.320
to try to remember that so that I can.
1345
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.039
Yes. Go back and unlock.
1346
00:58:22.380 --> 00:58:22.500
Okay.
1347
00:58:22.989 --> 00:58:23.349
All right.
1348
00:58:24.090 --> 00:58:25.699
At least this is not like a scary part of
1349
00:58:25.739 --> 00:58:27.320
the story. This is like a very nice part of
1350
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:27.780
the story.
1351
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:32.579
Yeah. So they find the great uncle's body. We held
1352
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:35.079
a small funeral where my great grandpa got to see
1353
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:38.099
his brother rest in peace. And the day after the funeral,
1354
00:58:38.139 --> 00:58:40.159
we took my great grandpa to watch us dig up
1355
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:42.480
the place my dad was shown and we came across
1356
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:46.300
an old milk jug and in it was about $ 5
1357
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:46.920
million worth of gold.
1358
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:47.630
Stop it.
1359
00:58:47.699 --> 00:58:50.860
My great grandpa smiled and asked that we do something
1360
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:52.800
good with it. So we did. And we built a
1361
00:58:52.860 --> 00:58:55.570
beautiful shrine and put his mother's name on it, as
1362
00:58:55.619 --> 00:58:58.849
well as her three boys. The shrine was completed late
1363
00:58:58.989 --> 00:59:01.369
one night and we wanted my great grandpa to see it.
1364
00:59:01.570 --> 00:59:03.489
But at this point, he was very near death. And
1365
00:59:03.849 --> 00:59:06.309
when he did see it, he started crying. He told
1366
00:59:06.369 --> 00:59:09.269
us that his mother, his father and brothers were sitting
1367
00:59:09.309 --> 00:59:27.579
there and his Oh, my God. Okay, so Brenda's family's rich.
1368
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:32.840
Brenda's family had crazy feuds and murder around this money.
1369
00:59:33.579 --> 00:59:36.239
And her relatives were like, come with me. I will
1370
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:41.510
show you money and bodies and move on from this mess.
1371
00:59:41.750 --> 00:59:44.909
I'm not okay. This is amazing.
1372
00:59:46.630 --> 00:59:49.510
Who was on this property before? Because the paranormal stuff
1373
00:59:49.550 --> 00:59:52.090
didn't start until they moved in. So I'm curious, like,
1374
00:59:52.130 --> 00:59:55.739
did other family members have it? Was it temporarily like
1375
00:59:56.289 --> 00:59:58.630
rented out to some random families or something?
1376
00:59:58.650 --> 01:00:00.210
Or was it just like abandoned for a while?
1377
01:00:00.590 --> 01:00:00.869
Right.
1378
01:00:01.110 --> 01:00:04.030
Like how did this happen? This story just took me
1379
01:00:04.090 --> 01:00:06.849
on so many– because I was terrified at first and
1380
01:00:06.869 --> 01:00:10.590
I thought like a seven-foot man is tall. And I
1381
01:00:10.650 --> 01:00:13.349
think shadow person. And so I was scared and I
1382
01:00:13.369 --> 01:00:15.670
was like startled by it. And then for it to
1383
01:00:15.710 --> 01:00:18.829
take this turn where it's all about the family and
1384
01:00:18.849 --> 01:00:22.710
the fact that they showed them where– He was buried.
1385
01:00:23.050 --> 01:00:23.309
Yes.
1386
01:00:23.650 --> 01:00:25.570
And they had never known what happened to Bill.
1387
01:00:25.769 --> 01:00:28.369
And the dad and Brenda, they both get the experience.
1388
01:00:28.389 --> 01:00:30.579
It's like they're together. And then suddenly they're both like
1389
01:00:30.860 --> 01:00:35.300
off and taken by each spirit and shown other things.
1390
01:00:35.579 --> 01:00:36.719
Wow. Wow.
1391
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:37.300
Wow.
1392
01:00:37.380 --> 01:00:37.599
Wow.
1393
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:39.099
That is amazing.
1394
01:00:39.219 --> 01:00:39.440
Yes.
1395
01:00:40.699 --> 01:00:42.289
Brenda, congrats on being rich.
1396
01:00:42.869 --> 01:00:45.989
Congrats. And like, yeah, I mean, let's.
1397
01:00:45.670 --> 01:00:47.309
Cherry on top of all of this is like they
1398
01:00:47.510 --> 01:00:50.960
solved this Or they find out this like crazy history
1399
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.639
of their family. And they're like, they learn of this
1400
01:00:53.699 --> 01:00:55.360
missing money and no one ever knows where it went.
1401
01:00:55.469 --> 01:00:56.730
And then they found it.
1402
01:00:57.289 --> 01:00:59.630
They found it. And they gave a little memorial to
1403
01:00:59.670 --> 01:01:03.130
their family members who were lost in the feud and whatnot.
1404
01:01:03.530 --> 01:01:06.349
And then I'm sure it probably sounds like they likely
1405
01:01:06.670 --> 01:01:08.500
used a lot of that money to keep the farm
1406
01:01:08.539 --> 01:01:10.900
going and into the farm. Farms are expensive. Wow.
1407
01:01:10.940 --> 01:01:13.239
This story is better than winning the lottery.
1408
01:01:14.460 --> 01:01:17.300
My goodness. And also, can I just say that the
1409
01:01:17.340 --> 01:01:20.500
subject line is haunted farm, question mark? There's no question
1410
01:01:20.539 --> 01:01:21.519
mark involved here.
1411
01:01:21.539 --> 01:01:21.900
No, no.
1412
01:01:22.780 --> 01:01:24.300
It should be haunted farm, period.
1413
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:26.340
Slash ill-gotten booty.
1414
01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:29.489
Slash ill-gotten booty.
1415
01:01:29.510 --> 01:01:31.449
Because you found the treasure.
1416
01:01:31.489 --> 01:01:31.769
Yes.
1417
01:01:32.210 --> 01:01:33.630
Oh my gosh. Amazing.
1418
01:01:33.710 --> 01:01:34.190
Wow.
1419
01:01:34.210 --> 01:01:34.289
Okay.
1420
01:01:35.429 --> 01:01:37.869
So about a month ago, I mean, it might be
1421
01:01:37.889 --> 01:01:41.429
more at this point, I called out Reggie, who was
1422
01:01:41.449 --> 01:01:45.130
a coworker of my sister's, for not sending me His
1423
01:01:45.170 --> 01:01:49.130
ghost story. And he finally sent it to me. So,
1424
01:01:49.250 --> 01:01:52.050
or to us, I guess. To both of us. To you.
1425
01:01:52.809 --> 01:01:55.380
To us, because it's... And then by default to me.
1426
01:01:55.610 --> 01:01:58.610
Yes, correct. Subject line is best podcast ever, which is
1427
01:01:58.659 --> 01:01:59.579
just so nice.
1428
01:01:59.860 --> 01:02:00.380
How sweet.
1429
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:00.900
How sweet.
1430
01:02:01.179 --> 01:02:01.440
Okay.
1431
01:02:02.260 --> 01:02:04.739
Reggie says, Hi, Ms. Corinne and Ms.
1432
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:05.199
Sabrina.
1433
01:02:05.260 --> 01:02:08.519
My name is Reggie. I work in the hospital in Hoboken,
1434
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:13.440
and I was introduced to your podcast by Ms. Sabrina's sister, Ms. Alexis.
1435
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:17.059
I'm a big fan. I actually don't listen to any
1436
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:21.500
other podcast. My favorite episodes were the hellhound episode and
1437
01:02:21.539 --> 01:02:25.510
the reoccurring dream episode, which reminded me of my childhood
1438
01:02:25.590 --> 01:02:28.010
when I had a reoccurring dream where I knew I
1439
01:02:28.030 --> 01:02:30.630
was going to get sick. And eventually I did, but
1440
01:02:30.650 --> 01:02:32.929
I've never had that dream since. And I haven't been
1441
01:02:33.010 --> 01:02:37.360
sick since either. I'm also obsessed with the whole conjuring universe.
1442
01:02:37.469 --> 01:02:39.780
And I went to the conjuring house during COVID and
1443
01:02:40.340 --> 01:02:42.860
I'm pretty sure I caught something in the window, but
1444
01:02:42.900 --> 01:02:46.460
it's up to you to decide. It might just be pareidolia,
1445
01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:50.179
but hey, don't kill my dream. Like I mentioned, I
1446
01:02:50.219 --> 01:02:53.610
work in the hospital and I have had multiple experiences,
1447
01:02:54.150 --> 01:02:56.909
but this is the first experience I ever had. So
1448
01:02:57.170 --> 01:03:00.469
I transport patients in-house, taking them to and from their
1449
01:03:00.510 --> 01:03:03.610
rooms for tests and whatnot. One time I was working
1450
01:03:03.650 --> 01:03:05.869
for the emergency room and I took a patient up
1451
01:03:05.929 --> 01:03:08.889
to a different floor and And as I was walking along,
1452
01:03:09.070 --> 01:03:11.329
I looked into a room and saw the first bed,
1453
01:03:11.369 --> 01:03:14.130
which was empty, nearest to the door, and a curtain,
1454
01:03:14.449 --> 01:03:16.989
and then the second bed behind it. While I was looking,
1455
01:03:17.349 --> 01:03:20.329
I saw feet under the curtain. I was confused and
1456
01:03:20.389 --> 01:03:22.409
called to the nurse saying that that room was wrong
1457
01:03:22.510 --> 01:03:25.639
because there was someone sitting in the second bed. The
1458
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:28.099
nurse starts arguing with me, telling me that there's no
1459
01:03:28.179 --> 01:03:30.389
one in the second bed. and we go back and
1460
01:03:30.429 --> 01:03:32.989
forth for a while until she walks with me into
1461
01:03:33.030 --> 01:03:36.380
the room and opens the curtain to reveal it was empty.
1462
01:03:36.820 --> 01:03:38.900
There was no one sitting in there, and there were
1463
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.340
no signs of someone having had been in the bed
1464
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:45.300
or even sitting on it. I felt like my head
1465
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:48.230
was going to explode because I know what I saw.
1466
01:03:48.250 --> 01:03:50.989
I have multiple other stories from the hospital, but I'll
1467
01:03:51.030 --> 01:03:53.710
save them for another time. I follow you guys on
1468
01:03:53.750 --> 01:03:56.150
Facebook and Instagram, and I am also part of the
1469
01:03:56.170 --> 01:03:59.860
Patreon because you guys are great. I listen while heading
1470
01:03:59.920 --> 01:04:02.900
home and driving to work, but never before I go
1471
01:04:02.940 --> 01:04:03.300
to sleep.
1472
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:04.000
LOL.
1473
01:04:04.659 --> 01:04:08.010
Keep doing what you love and keep loving what you do. Reggie.
1474
01:04:08.250 --> 01:04:11.670
Okay. That, I mean, bound to happen, right? If you
1475
01:04:11.690 --> 01:04:14.880
spend enough time in the hospital, you might see something paranormal.
1476
01:04:15.789 --> 01:04:18.030
I feel like for someone in his position, he's a nurse,
1477
01:04:18.090 --> 01:04:19.730
a PA, nurse practitioner, something.
1478
01:04:20.190 --> 01:04:21.849
I'm not sure what his exact position is.
1479
01:04:22.190 --> 01:04:23.750
But I mean, to see a patient, like it's in
1480
01:04:23.789 --> 01:04:25.980
your mind. You're like, oh, there's either a patient or
1481
01:04:26.019 --> 01:04:28.380
there's a visitor of this patient. And you're like keeping
1482
01:04:28.460 --> 01:04:30.159
tabs and track of who's where.
1483
01:04:30.219 --> 01:04:30.659
Yeah.
1484
01:04:30.780 --> 01:04:32.719
So to be told that that person that you were
1485
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:36.539
just near and like made note of does not exist
1486
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:37.949
is so creepy.
1487
01:04:38.179 --> 01:04:38.409
Very.
1488
01:04:38.449 --> 01:04:39.949
You're supposed to go on with your life.
1489
01:04:40.269 --> 01:04:43.110
After that, I wonder if there is like a support
1490
01:04:43.150 --> 01:04:46.469
group for people in the medical field, specifically people who
1491
01:04:46.510 --> 01:04:50.630
work in hospitals, because I just feel like there's no
1492
01:04:50.690 --> 01:04:52.789
way that if you work in a hospital, you haven't
1493
01:04:52.829 --> 01:04:53.929
experienced something.
1494
01:04:54.190 --> 01:04:54.469
Right.
1495
01:04:54.489 --> 01:04:55.110
I mean, yeah.
1496
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:58.269
But do people know though that they experienced it?
1497
01:04:58.289 --> 01:04:59.230
They probably don't.
1498
01:04:59.550 --> 01:05:01.389
Or are they just like, oh, I'm just so tired.
1499
01:05:01.429 --> 01:05:02.769
Like so much happens all the time.
1500
01:05:02.849 --> 01:05:03.289
Yeah.
1501
01:05:03.329 --> 01:05:05.389
I don't even know what to think or trust anymore.
1502
01:05:05.409 --> 01:05:08.420
I could also imagine like some, like a spirit walking
1503
01:05:08.460 --> 01:05:10.300
past you in the hallway and you would never know
1504
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:12.780
because like you just think it's someone else walking through
1505
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:13.179
the hallway.
1506
01:05:15.050 --> 01:05:15.289
Yeah.
1507
01:05:15.510 --> 01:05:17.570
And you're moving so quick. You're like a flash of
1508
01:05:17.590 --> 01:05:19.409
someone goes by and you don't even realize.
1509
01:05:19.449 --> 01:05:19.710
Yeah.
1510
01:05:19.929 --> 01:05:22.409
You don't realize. That person is wearing a nurse's uniform
1511
01:05:22.510 --> 01:05:26.289
from 1910. Oh, gosh. So creepy.
1512
01:05:26.429 --> 01:05:27.070
So creepy.
1513
01:05:27.449 --> 01:05:30.570
Okay. Well, Reggie's place of work is haunted, which means
1514
01:05:30.610 --> 01:05:32.309
your sister's place of work is haunted. I know.
1515
01:05:32.349 --> 01:05:33.929
I've asked my sister so many times. I'm like, do
1516
01:05:33.969 --> 01:05:35.610
you have ghost stories? She goes, no.
1517
01:05:36.829 --> 01:05:38.750
Lexi, pay attention.
1518
01:05:39.329 --> 01:05:42.739
She, although it is interesting, although a lot of the
1519
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.909
paranormal things happened around her. I feel like she has
1520
01:05:45.949 --> 01:05:48.159
had the least amount of paranormal experiences.
1521
01:05:48.500 --> 01:05:49.360
That is really funny.
1522
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:49.760
Yeah.
1523
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:50.320
Interesting.
1524
01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:50.739
Maybe.
1525
01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:52.739
She's just too busy being possessed as a child.
1526
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:54.179
Yeah, the demons shielding her.
1527
01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.510
Okay, well, I have a story of someone else's haunted
1528
01:05:58.550 --> 01:06:00.630
place of work, and this is from Eden. It's called,
1529
01:06:00.710 --> 01:06:02.550
I Worked at a Haunted JCPenney.
1530
01:06:02.750 --> 01:06:03.889
No way.
1531
01:06:03.909 --> 01:06:03.989
Okay.
1532
01:06:04.849 --> 01:06:07.070
Hey, ghostesses. Of course, I have to start off this
1533
01:06:07.150 --> 01:06:08.809
email with a quick thank you. My name is Eden,
1534
01:06:08.849 --> 01:06:10.869
and I've been listening to your podcast since junior year
1535
01:06:10.889 --> 01:06:11.469
of high school.
1536
01:06:11.590 --> 01:06:12.110
What?
1537
01:06:12.340 --> 01:06:14.159
For some reason, I just immediately was like, we weren't
1538
01:06:14.179 --> 01:06:16.099
podcasting then because I just think of us.
1539
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:16.659
In high school.
1540
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:19.880
It's like we weren't podcasting when I was in high school. No,
1541
01:06:19.900 --> 01:06:20.659
but when Eden was.
1542
01:06:20.860 --> 01:06:21.119
Wow.
1543
01:06:21.380 --> 01:06:23.340
I will continue as I start my first week of
1544
01:06:23.380 --> 01:06:26.739
college tomorrow. When I found you junior year, I was
1545
01:06:26.780 --> 01:06:28.699
going through a really hard time, and your podcast helped
1546
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:31.440
distract me from some really negative things going on around me.
1547
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:33.420
Without you, I don't know if I would have made it.
1548
01:06:33.909 --> 01:06:37.570
Out of high school sane. I should probably start with
1549
01:06:37.590 --> 01:06:39.929
some background about the JCPenney that I worked at. I
1550
01:06:39.969 --> 01:06:41.949
started summer of 2020 and they had to shut down
1551
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:44.400
the store and laid everyone off in March. So I
1552
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.440
was part of the new employee group that they had
1553
01:06:46.460 --> 01:06:49.659
to bring in along with some past employees that were returning.
1554
01:06:50.139 --> 01:06:52.380
This was my very first retail job and I would
1555
01:06:52.420 --> 01:06:56.260
continue working there up until April of 2021. At this location,
1556
01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:59.750
we had about three managers and one supervisor. We were
1557
01:06:59.969 --> 01:07:03.170
at a standalone one-story store, not in a mall like
1558
01:07:03.230 --> 01:07:06.530
most locations. At first, this location didn't seem to have
1559
01:07:06.590 --> 01:07:09.429
anything paranormal about it. I have an affinity for these
1560
01:07:09.489 --> 01:07:12.719
things and can really tell the energy right away. I
1561
01:07:12.739 --> 01:07:15.900
will skip ahead to September of 2020, though, when things
1562
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:19.000
really pick up. Due to the pandemic, they had to
1563
01:07:19.059 --> 01:07:21.590
cut back on store hours, but As we neared the
1564
01:07:21.610 --> 01:07:24.710
holiday season, they progressively got later. This store was really
1565
01:07:24.789 --> 01:07:27.909
only busy on the weekends. Otherwise, my after-school shifts were
1566
01:07:28.110 --> 01:07:30.409
pretty much just filled with standing around and cleaning the
1567
01:07:30.449 --> 01:07:33.760
return counter once an hour. At this point, I was
1568
01:07:33.820 --> 01:07:36.300
mainly working in customer service, which was along the back
1569
01:07:36.340 --> 01:07:39.519
wall of the store, with a salon and a portrait studio.
1570
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:43.519
Behind customer service was a terrifying storage room and dock.
1571
01:07:44.179 --> 01:07:47.000
Imagine a long hall, all cement, with metal shelves creating
1572
01:07:47.059 --> 01:07:50.389
narrow aisles until you reached the loading dock. which was
1573
01:07:50.670 --> 01:07:52.769
equally as creepy. To top it off, there was a
1574
01:07:52.809 --> 01:07:55.630
second metal level, same as the first, but entirely metal,
1575
01:07:56.030 --> 01:07:59.559
so you could definitely hear when someone or something was
1576
01:07:59.619 --> 01:08:01.760
walking around on it. We had to go back there
1577
01:08:01.780 --> 01:08:06.460
to retrieve in-store pickups, so there really wasn't any avoiding it.
1578
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:09.750
This wasn't the only haunted area, though. The dressing rooms
1579
01:08:09.889 --> 01:08:13.840
always had an off-putting energy. You'd hear something shuffling around
1580
01:08:13.860 --> 01:08:16.539
the children's shoe department. And the stylists at the salon
1581
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.619
were always talking about how they heard footsteps coming from
1582
01:08:19.659 --> 01:08:22.380
the sink room when they were at the receptionist's desk.
1583
01:08:22.579 --> 01:08:24.500
I would hear voices as I stood at the desk
1584
01:08:24.579 --> 01:08:27.619
waiting for a customer to need assistance. I distinctly remember
1585
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.899
a woman's voice, maybe middle-aged, saying, Mom, Mom, now I
1586
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:33.199
know what you're thinking. Maybe it was just a customer nearby,
1587
01:08:33.300 --> 01:08:35.680
but it definitely was coming from behind me in the
1588
01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:38.239
storage room. And I could hear the voice echoing off
1589
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:41.920
the metal racks. Mind you, we only have about four
1590
01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:45.140
people working after 4 30 p.m. There's someone for the
1591
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.159
front registers, someone for customer service, a manager, and someone
1592
01:08:48.180 --> 01:08:50.779
to do recovery like folding clothes and tidying the store.
1593
01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:53.289
I would hear footsteps above the second metal level in
1594
01:08:53.329 --> 01:08:55.869
the back when there really was no reason to be
1595
01:08:55.949 --> 01:08:59.090
on the second level. It was all old storage with
1596
01:08:59.189 --> 01:09:03.140
fixtures from the 90s and old signage, but I continually
1597
01:09:03.180 --> 01:09:07.279
heard things move up there like human footsteps. I distinctly
1598
01:09:07.340 --> 01:09:09.989
remember one night in December where we were closing at
1599
01:09:09.989 --> 01:09:13.250
10 p.m., which meant I wouldn't be leaving until around
1600
01:09:13.250 --> 01:09:15.630
1040 p.m. The portrait studio had an awful habit of
1601
01:09:15.689 --> 01:09:17.609
not closing out their registers at the end of the night.
1602
01:09:17.970 --> 01:09:20.510
And often my managers would enlist me with walking back
1603
01:09:20.590 --> 01:09:22.630
to do it if it showed in the office that
1604
01:09:22.649 --> 01:09:25.350
it was still open. That night, me and two of
1605
01:09:25.409 --> 01:09:27.869
my other co-workers were fixing up the store in the
1606
01:09:27.909 --> 01:09:29.569
front area so that we could leave as soon as
1607
01:09:29.590 --> 01:09:32.140
my manager finished with the cash room. We heard what
1608
01:09:32.180 --> 01:09:34.279
sounded like someone walking with a cart down one of
1609
01:09:34.300 --> 01:09:37.199
the aisles out of our view, but soon approaching where
1610
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:39.859
we would see. We all froze, fixated on that section
1611
01:09:39.899 --> 01:09:43.010
to see who would be walking out. but it stopped
1612
01:09:43.109 --> 01:09:45.470
mere steps before we would be able to see. We
1613
01:09:45.569 --> 01:09:48.260
quickly went over, assuming a customer must still be in
1614
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:51.539
the store, but we found nothing but some shirts knocked
1615
01:09:51.619 --> 01:09:55.000
off the table near an aisle. Suddenly, my manager paged
1616
01:09:55.100 --> 01:09:57.510
overhead for me to close the portrait studio register, which
1617
01:09:57.569 --> 01:10:01.350
meant walking all the way back alone. and mostly in
1618
01:10:01.390 --> 01:10:03.390
the dark. I made my way back, but it kept
1619
01:10:03.529 --> 01:10:06.689
getting progressively colder. Not the colder where the heater isn't
1620
01:10:06.729 --> 01:10:08.770
working anymore, but the colder where you feel like the
1621
01:10:08.869 --> 01:10:11.840
air has dropped 10 degrees with every step. The portrait
1622
01:10:11.859 --> 01:10:14.880
studio didn't have a door, just an open front that
1623
01:10:14.939 --> 01:10:16.880
looked out into the store. So when I was counting
1624
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:18.840
the cash, I kept the aisle in front of me
1625
01:10:19.340 --> 01:10:21.819
in my peripheral. I felt like someone was watching me,
1626
01:10:22.060 --> 01:10:25.329
but it had this very heavy and negative energy. As
1627
01:10:25.390 --> 01:10:27.189
I finished, I realized that I would have to walk
1628
01:10:27.289 --> 01:10:30.300
towards where I was having that feeling. in order to
1629
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:33.600
give my manager the excess cash bag. I grabbed it
1630
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:35.420
tight and I tried to keep my head down as
1631
01:10:35.500 --> 01:10:38.180
I walked, but I heard something walking behind me. It
1632
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:40.199
would take a few steps matching my stride, but then
1633
01:10:40.289 --> 01:10:43.789
pause like it was letting me gain some distance. Oh, no, no, no.
1634
01:10:43.850 --> 01:10:46.449
I practically ran to the back after realizing this and
1635
01:10:46.489 --> 01:10:49.050
wouldn't leave the office without my manager. On our way out,
1636
01:10:49.090 --> 01:10:51.890
we passed the Sephora that had been closed far earlier
1637
01:10:51.949 --> 01:10:54.430
than the store itself, so everything was turned off for
1638
01:10:54.470 --> 01:10:57.119
the night. And as we approached Sephora, the security sensor
1639
01:10:57.340 --> 01:10:59.909
at the entrance started beeping. I assumed it just had
1640
01:10:59.949 --> 01:11:01.550
to have been an item that had fallen off the
1641
01:11:01.590 --> 01:11:04.250
shelf and somehow rolled over the sensor, but as we
1642
01:11:04.270 --> 01:11:07.300
neared the entrance to investigate, it stopped. The sensor shouldn't
1643
01:11:07.350 --> 01:11:10.039
stop unless the item is moved away, so we all
1644
01:11:10.060 --> 01:11:12.560
knew something was up. We got around to the entrance
1645
01:11:12.699 --> 01:11:14.720
and nothing was on the floor. In fact, it was
1646
01:11:15.100 --> 01:11:19.060
eerily still. I remember standing in silence as the Michael
1647
01:11:19.100 --> 01:11:22.699
Bublé Christmas cover played on the store speakers. We took
1648
01:11:22.739 --> 01:11:24.600
a moment and we went out to the small lobby
1649
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:26.779
where the alarm was. Finally, it was time to go
1650
01:11:26.819 --> 01:11:28.850
home and I wanted nothing more than to be in
1651
01:11:28.869 --> 01:11:31.430
the safety of my car. Just as my manager was
1652
01:11:31.470 --> 01:11:34.609
turning on the alarm system, the fine jewelry counter lights
1653
01:11:34.689 --> 01:11:37.170
flickered on. The only way to turn them on at
1654
01:11:37.189 --> 01:11:40.270
this point was the control panel that my manager was
1655
01:11:40.310 --> 01:11:43.800
in front of that she had just locked up. Not
1656
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:46.340
a single one of us wanted to go and see
1657
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:49.119
how on earth they turned on. The counter was positioned
1658
01:11:49.180 --> 01:11:51.399
behind the Sephora, but you could see right through to it.
1659
01:11:51.890 --> 01:11:55.989
Everything was still eerily still. Part of me wanted it
1660
01:11:56.029 --> 01:11:57.810
to be an intruder just so that I had the
1661
01:11:57.829 --> 01:12:00.069
peace of mind to say that it wasn't something dark
1662
01:12:00.090 --> 01:12:03.310
or demonic. Have you ever really been around a childlike
1663
01:12:03.369 --> 01:12:07.270
or good-seeming entity? This was the opposite. And to me,
1664
01:12:07.329 --> 01:12:10.569
it felt heavy and looming, almost like it had placed
1665
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:12.960
a veil over the store. and we were now in
1666
01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:15.680
its control. We had an unspoken agreement then to just
1667
01:12:15.779 --> 01:12:17.460
unlock the panel and try to turn off the lights,
1668
01:12:17.859 --> 01:12:20.020
and as we did this, they flickered once and turned off,
1669
01:12:20.470 --> 01:12:22.989
which was highly unusual. I almost didn't want to take
1670
01:12:23.029 --> 01:12:25.369
my eyes away, afraid that something would follow me home.
1671
01:12:25.770 --> 01:12:27.890
So we walked out into the dark, into the cold
1672
01:12:27.930 --> 01:12:30.590
December night, and I immediately locked my car's doors as
1673
01:12:30.609 --> 01:12:33.350
soon as I got in. Somehow, it made me feel better.
1674
01:12:33.609 --> 01:12:36.579
Occurrences like this would continue until my final day working there.
1675
01:12:36.979 --> 01:12:39.979
It seemed inescapable, like no part of the building was safe.
1676
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:43.590
Sometimes I wondered if whatever this was could have been
1677
01:12:43.689 --> 01:12:47.090
feeding off the negative energy created by this workplace that
1678
01:12:47.149 --> 01:12:50.289
I was stuck in. Our supervisor was one of the
1679
01:12:50.310 --> 01:12:52.970
worst people I had ever met and made everyone miserable.
1680
01:12:54.060 --> 01:12:57.619
I have heard many stories of negative people attracting negative entities,
1681
01:12:58.020 --> 01:12:59.819
but there really was no answer for what this could
1682
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:01.659
have been. I'd like to think that I was the
1683
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:05.810
most knowledgeable in noticing when it came to our JCPenney's ghost.
1684
01:13:06.250 --> 01:13:08.529
But everyone had stories of their own, and it came
1685
01:13:08.609 --> 01:13:12.010
to a point where even the most skeptical coworkers couldn't
1686
01:13:12.149 --> 01:13:15.829
deny their presence. Of course, I have plenty of stories
1687
01:13:15.890 --> 01:13:18.130
from JCPenney to my high school, but I will leave
1688
01:13:18.149 --> 01:13:20.270
it at that for today. Thank you for everything that
1689
01:13:20.289 --> 01:13:21.909
y'all do. Stay spooky, Eden.
1690
01:13:22.329 --> 01:13:24.930
Okay, the thing that freaks me out the most is
1691
01:13:25.210 --> 01:13:27.569
the fact that they were standing right next to the
1692
01:13:27.729 --> 01:13:32.000
locked electrical box that is where they turn on and
1693
01:13:32.100 --> 01:13:35.079
off the lights. Makes me think the spirit was standing
1694
01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:36.850
right next to them.
1695
01:13:37.229 --> 01:13:41.229
Yes. So creepy. It's like it made other activity happen
1696
01:13:41.729 --> 01:13:44.770
and didn't quite lure them in. Maybe fully. Like they
1697
01:13:44.810 --> 01:13:46.390
just kind of like stopped by the entrance to see
1698
01:13:46.430 --> 01:13:48.210
what was happening. And then we're like, all right, let's go.
1699
01:13:48.649 --> 01:13:48.989
Yeah.
1700
01:13:49.010 --> 01:13:51.699
But yes, it was like trying to bring them in
1701
01:13:52.020 --> 01:13:55.039
and be super close. So creepy.
1702
01:13:55.739 --> 01:13:58.359
Did she mention what it was before it was a JCPenney?
1703
01:13:58.680 --> 01:13:58.880
No.
1704
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:00.180
Because that makes me wonder.
1705
01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:01.060
I don't know.
1706
01:14:01.140 --> 01:14:03.500
I mean, I would assume just another big box store.
1707
01:14:03.779 --> 01:14:06.699
Those things are like built pretty much intentionally for one thing.
1708
01:14:06.779 --> 01:14:08.380
It's not like maybe it could have been like a
1709
01:14:08.380 --> 01:14:09.359
bowling alley or something.
1710
01:14:09.390 --> 01:14:11.789
But they could have been like big old farmland beforehand,
1711
01:14:11.850 --> 01:14:12.149
you know?
1712
01:14:12.369 --> 01:14:13.590
Oh, the actual land. Yeah.
1713
01:14:13.729 --> 01:14:14.069
Yeah.
1714
01:14:14.090 --> 01:14:16.670
I mean, at one point, I think most places were
1715
01:14:16.729 --> 01:14:18.670
kind of farmland.
1716
01:14:19.010 --> 01:14:19.310
Yeah.
1717
01:14:19.329 --> 01:14:22.520
There's no space that was just safe and unoccupied.
1718
01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:25.739
It's weird, though, because it's like, I obviously, like, I
1719
01:14:26.149 --> 01:14:29.109
get the feeling unsettled and everything. But it's interesting because
1720
01:14:29.189 --> 01:14:31.569
it's like, it could be a child. And then it
1721
01:14:31.609 --> 01:14:35.109
just is creepy because it's scary. Or it could be
1722
01:14:35.149 --> 01:14:36.069
something really dark.
1723
01:14:36.229 --> 01:14:36.470
Right.
1724
01:14:36.890 --> 01:14:39.869
It feels like it's mimicking customers, too. It's in the
1725
01:14:39.890 --> 01:14:43.130
wrong place. Like, being back in the metal storage area.
1726
01:14:43.409 --> 01:14:46.359
But then you hear what sounds like a 50-year-old woman saying.
1727
01:14:46.420 --> 01:14:47.340
Mom, mom.
1728
01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:49.720
Which you would hear in the store. I bet my
1729
01:14:49.739 --> 01:14:50.319
mom says that.
1730
01:14:50.340 --> 01:14:50.439
Yeah.
1731
01:14:50.989 --> 01:14:53.510
Half the time she's shopping with my grandma mom yeah
1732
01:14:54.289 --> 01:14:56.970
and then but it's the wrong place it's like doing
1733
01:14:57.010 --> 01:14:59.449
things in the wrong area so you know you're not
1734
01:14:59.470 --> 01:15:00.630
being like tricked.
1735
01:15:00.789 --> 01:15:03.649
Yes but it could be a spirit that's truly looking
1736
01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:05.680
for their mom i mean similar to the story of
1737
01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:08.060
tasha sent us with like the woman standing out there
1738
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:09.939
and like the idea that she's looking for her son
1739
01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:14.000
i imagine the afterlife is a confusing place and if
1740
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:17.279
you can't find your loved ones true you might spend
1741
01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:18.869
a long time go Yeah.
1742
01:15:19.029 --> 01:15:21.350
Grabs a thing of Sephora, walks a little bit, reading
1743
01:15:21.390 --> 01:15:24.210
the thing. Beeper goes, oops, turn around, put it back.
1744
01:15:24.689 --> 01:15:26.310
Someone turns off the lights and you're like, I'm not
1745
01:15:26.329 --> 01:15:29.689
done shopping. Turn it back on. Keeping myself browsing.
1746
01:15:29.930 --> 01:15:31.689
I'm really going to sound like you in this episode,
1747
01:15:31.770 --> 01:15:36.260
but there was a TikTok I was watching. We've traded
1748
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:40.079
places of, I can't remember who the user was, but
1749
01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:42.380
he was doing like, this is what ghosts are actually
1750
01:15:42.420 --> 01:15:43.159
doing in your house.
1751
01:15:43.899 --> 01:15:44.439
Oh, yes.
1752
01:15:44.539 --> 01:15:45.579
I've seen this series.
1753
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:49.359
It's so funny. The cabinet doors open. Like, how am
1754
01:15:49.420 --> 01:15:52.380
I supposed to find anything in my kitchen? Like, everything.
1755
01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:53.819
Nothing is where it's supposed to be.
1756
01:15:53.819 --> 01:15:55.659
Who keeps turning everything around?
1757
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:56.060
Yeah.
1758
01:15:56.420 --> 01:15:57.500
Who keeps moving my cup?
1759
01:15:57.779 --> 01:15:58.020
Yeah.
1760
01:15:58.340 --> 01:15:58.579
Yes.
1761
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:01.300
I mean, that's a good thought. I just love the setting.
1762
01:16:01.340 --> 01:16:01.619
It's like.
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01:16:02.350 --> 01:16:03.529
Christmas time.
1764
01:16:03.609 --> 01:16:08.590
The air is crisp. It's December. Michael Buble is singing.
1765
01:16:08.670 --> 01:16:13.329
And then these employees are just being terrorized in the store.
1766
01:16:13.470 --> 01:16:15.829
At JCPenney. Who would have ever thought?
1767
01:16:16.270 --> 01:16:17.029
Who would have thought?
1768
01:16:17.180 --> 01:16:19.560
Next time you go to your big department store, make
1769
01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:22.380
sure you check in on the employees and make sure
1770
01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:24.079
no ghosts are terrorizing them.
1771
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:28.079
And maybe when you're interviewing for your retail position, say, hey,
1772
01:16:28.460 --> 01:16:29.699
is this JCPenney haunted?
1773
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:29.880
Yeah.
1774
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:33.869
Yes, that might be, or wherever you're applying. Is your
1775
01:16:34.109 --> 01:16:35.890
office space haunted? Is it?
1776
01:16:35.989 --> 01:16:36.739
Is it?
1777
01:16:36.810 --> 01:16:37.909
I just want to know.
1778
01:16:38.350 --> 01:16:40.949
Any customers ever felt anything, said anything odd?
1779
01:16:41.109 --> 01:16:43.859
My next, if I ever get an interview for a
1780
01:16:43.899 --> 01:16:46.560
job ever again, I'm going to ask.
1781
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:51.319
Here's something I found on the web. What the hell, Sabrina?
1782
01:16:51.550 --> 01:16:53.909
Once you get the interview, have a short anecdote ready
1783
01:16:53.949 --> 01:16:54.750
for every question.
1784
01:16:56.800 --> 01:17:00.119
Alexa's telling me how to interview your speakers.
1785
01:17:01.579 --> 01:17:05.010
This went from so scary to actually pretty sweet.
1786
01:17:05.829 --> 01:17:07.529
Or is it like rubbing it in my face as
1787
01:17:07.569 --> 01:17:09.649
if I don't know how to interview that's not the
1788
01:17:09.689 --> 01:17:12.649
problem I just need to get whispering.
1789
01:17:12.329 --> 01:17:14.909
To your speaker like help her out she she's not
1790
01:17:14.970 --> 01:17:18.789
sure give her oh my gosh that's not the problem
1791
01:17:18.810 --> 01:17:20.989
Alexa I how.
1792
01:17:20.890 --> 01:17:22.979
Did that even turn on I must have said something
1793
01:17:22.989 --> 01:17:25.390
similar to the name Yeah, I guess so.
1794
01:17:25.729 --> 01:17:28.069
My speaker recently has, which, what just happened?
1795
01:17:28.210 --> 01:17:32.130
What alarm? Alexa, what alarm is on? Your alarm is
1796
01:17:32.189 --> 01:17:32.689
not set.
1797
01:17:32.989 --> 01:17:33.210
Good.
1798
01:17:33.250 --> 01:17:34.939
I don't want it to be set. Oh.
1799
01:17:35.449 --> 01:17:36.630
Jeez, terrifying.
1800
01:17:36.789 --> 01:17:37.829
Well, that time I definitely think her name.
1801
01:17:37.850 --> 01:17:40.090
My speaker's been going off recently and I keep thinking
1802
01:17:40.130 --> 01:17:42.909
that my speaker's haunted, but Brian has reminded me that
1803
01:17:42.930 --> 01:17:45.149
we live in an apartment complex and someone might just
1804
01:17:45.270 --> 01:17:46.979
accidentally be hooking up.
1805
01:17:47.020 --> 01:17:48.779
Like trying to connect it by accident.
1806
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:50.939
It's happened multiple times. I always think it's him because
1807
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:52.939
they're playing country. Maybe we just have a country love
1808
01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:54.140
and ghost. Oh, interesting.
1809
01:17:54.180 --> 01:17:58.399
That's fun. Okay, I have one more story from our
1810
01:17:58.460 --> 01:18:06.029
listener Weston and it's called Mike the Dockmaster from Hell. Hey,
1811
01:18:06.090 --> 01:18:09.140
Sabrina and Corinne. I only found your podcast three weeks
1812
01:18:09.189 --> 01:18:12.720
ago and have already listened to 75% of the episodes.
1813
01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.659
I think I may have a problem. I have a
1814
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:19.199
couple of paranormal stories on top of this one. For example,
1815
01:18:19.380 --> 01:18:23.560
when we explored the seaside sanatorium and met a dead
1816
01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:27.479
gang of mentally disturbed middle-aged women. But that is a
1817
01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:31.100
story for another time or the time that my friend's
1818
01:18:31.359 --> 01:18:33.899
aunt explained her time owning the Annabelle doll.
1819
01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:34.819
What?
1820
01:18:35.500 --> 01:18:37.600
Okay, Weston, we need to know that story.
1821
01:18:37.619 --> 01:18:38.060
Yeah, what the heck?
1822
01:18:38.260 --> 01:18:40.300
You can use my name, but all others of living
1823
01:18:40.340 --> 01:18:42.739
people will be changed because I forgot to ask them
1824
01:18:42.779 --> 01:18:44.510
permission to use their names for this.
1825
01:18:44.710 --> 01:18:44.930
Oops.
1826
01:18:45.250 --> 01:18:48.510
Anyway, here goes nothing. This story takes place on a
1827
01:18:48.569 --> 01:18:52.479
dark and stormy COVID ween. This encounter got me on
1828
01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:55.800
a path to the occult and true crime. It starts
1829
01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:58.020
with my friend who is a medium and a badass
1830
01:18:58.060 --> 01:19:01.289
bitch who we will call Carol after that shady lady,
1831
01:19:01.329 --> 01:19:04.729
Carol Baskin, of course. Anyway, both Carol and her mom,
1832
01:19:04.829 --> 01:19:07.350
who is also a medium, but not as powerful as
1833
01:19:07.390 --> 01:19:10.939
Carol are for helping me contact my recently passed grandmothers,
1834
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:14.479
because all three passed in the past year. We decided
1835
01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:16.840
that our Halloween night at the marina, to which we
1836
01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:20.800
both belong to, should include a seance. While contacting my
1837
01:19:20.859 --> 01:19:24.630
tough Jewish matriarch grandmother from the Bronx, who apparently is
1838
01:19:24.670 --> 01:19:27.449
my guardian angel and supports me coming out to her
1839
01:19:27.590 --> 01:19:31.409
after death, we heard an ominous voice. Already freaked out,
1840
01:19:31.750 --> 01:19:34.390
what this old ass ghost said to me did not
1841
01:19:34.430 --> 01:19:38.020
help at all. Carol asked the presence that she sensed
1842
01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:41.529
who they were. The reply the ghost gave, whom we
1843
01:19:41.590 --> 01:19:45.750
now know is named Mike, was chilling to hear. Mike said,
1844
01:19:46.029 --> 01:19:48.729
Get out, or you will meet the same as me.
1845
01:19:49.050 --> 01:19:52.090
Upon hearing this, I said in the most Medea Tyler
1846
01:19:52.109 --> 01:19:56.810
Perry voice ever, Oh, hell no. Apparently, the largest storage
1847
01:19:56.829 --> 01:19:59.670
closet that we were in was previously the office of
1848
01:19:59.689 --> 01:20:03.930
a former dockmaster in the 50s. which, using my fancy
1849
01:20:03.970 --> 01:20:07.529
detective skills from being a true crime fanatic, I found
1850
01:20:07.649 --> 01:20:10.770
out his name was Mike. We learned his name and
1851
01:20:10.810 --> 01:20:13.840
his photo matched that of the specter Carol saw. Through
1852
01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:16.800
more research, I found what he meant by the same
1853
01:20:16.859 --> 01:20:19.960
as me. Mike drowned while trying to save a boat
1854
01:20:20.020 --> 01:20:22.680
during a storm. The reason I can't give you his
1855
01:20:22.720 --> 01:20:25.850
last name is that he never gave it to anyone.
1856
01:20:26.470 --> 01:20:28.890
An old member and a NOMS vet told us that
1857
01:20:28.970 --> 01:20:33.760
Mike was troubled and constantly was overly aggressive. So, a
1858
01:20:33.770 --> 01:20:37.340
few days later, I figured out that when Mikey Mike said,
1859
01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:39.359
get out or you will meet the same as me,
1860
01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:42.119
he meant that if we stayed at the marina, we
1861
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:44.979
would be ghostboarded, which I just came up with. It's
1862
01:20:45.020 --> 01:20:47.859
a term that means when a ghost drowns you. Immediately,
1863
01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:50.800
we called Carol's mom, who went full medium and came
1864
01:20:50.899 --> 01:20:54.510
with enough sage to cleanse the entire state. We thought
1865
01:20:54.569 --> 01:20:57.489
Mikey Mike was gone because no more death threats had come,
1866
01:20:58.189 --> 01:21:00.579
and that must be a good gauge of whether or
1867
01:21:00.619 --> 01:21:03.560
not you're being haunted. But about a week later, Carol
1868
01:21:03.619 --> 01:21:07.090
and I were walking down the docks at midnight, and
1869
01:21:07.350 --> 01:21:09.430
when we were walking down the north dock, we felt
1870
01:21:09.470 --> 01:21:12.060
a presence. Now, I am not a medium, but I
1871
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:17.890
actually saw this dark black shadowy figure who, although unable
1872
01:21:17.930 --> 01:21:21.810
to see clearly, seemed to be smiling and cocking his head.
1873
01:21:22.409 --> 01:21:24.930
Carol said to me, do you see that? To which
1874
01:21:24.970 --> 01:21:28.010
I replied, yeah, but aren't you the medium? She just
1875
01:21:28.050 --> 01:21:31.649
replied eerily, yeah. We quickly decided that we didn't need
1876
01:21:31.899 --> 01:21:35.180
much more than that. And Carol grabbed the sage and
1877
01:21:35.300 --> 01:21:37.659
I grabbed my sigils and paint pens and we cast
1878
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:41.350
that motherfucker out of our marina through a combination of
1879
01:21:41.390 --> 01:21:45.430
various sigils, saging, and swearing at Mikey Mike and this
1880
01:21:45.569 --> 01:21:49.090
oddly complicated spell in literature. Thank God it was not
1881
01:21:49.130 --> 01:21:53.270
in ingredients. Now the marina is officially un-Juju'd and there
1882
01:21:53.310 --> 01:21:56.760
have been no disturbances and looking back, Mikey Mike was
1883
01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:00.000
perfectly content with drowning us if we messed up our
1884
01:22:00.380 --> 01:22:03.579
good riddance ritual. A good thing to come from this
1885
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:06.579
is that this event activated my medium spider sense and
1886
01:22:07.189 --> 01:22:09.210
And it's very weak, but when there's a spirit with
1887
01:22:09.270 --> 01:22:13.649
malicious intent, I begin to cry uncontrollably, which isn't really
1888
01:22:13.770 --> 01:22:15.890
useful other than to be looked at like I'm a freak.
1889
01:22:16.310 --> 01:22:19.090
But oh well. See you on the other side, Weston.
1890
01:22:19.829 --> 01:22:23.600
I mean, the resources and the power to rid the
1891
01:22:23.649 --> 01:22:28.300
thing is the most important lesson. What a good situation
1892
01:22:28.340 --> 01:22:28.840
in the end.
1893
01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:32.779
I'm also really curious, Weston, about this new uncontrollable crying
1894
01:22:32.819 --> 01:22:35.220
that happens when you're in the presence of a bad spirit.
1895
01:22:35.850 --> 01:22:38.520
Does it just happen? Like do you just all of
1896
01:22:38.550 --> 01:22:41.550
a sudden go from like doo-doo-doo to bawling? Or do
1897
01:22:41.590 --> 01:22:44.029
you feel something coming on and then like your body
1898
01:22:44.090 --> 01:22:46.729
reacts to it in tears? Right.
1899
01:22:47.109 --> 01:22:50.369
Like this buildup of an overwhelming sensation. Yeah.
1900
01:22:50.689 --> 01:22:52.130
Do you get like a tingle in your body?
1901
01:22:52.149 --> 01:22:52.489
Right.
1902
01:22:52.510 --> 01:22:53.550
Or is it just like tears start coming?
1903
01:22:53.569 --> 01:22:56.109
Because they're warning that something's happening and you're aware that
1904
01:22:56.130 --> 01:22:59.329
there's some dark entity nearby. Or is it just suddenly like,
1905
01:22:59.390 --> 01:23:01.270
oh my gosh, I have no idea where this emotion's
1906
01:23:01.289 --> 01:23:01.729
coming from.
1907
01:23:01.789 --> 01:23:02.630
That's what I'm wondering.
1908
01:23:02.829 --> 01:23:03.210
Tell us.
1909
01:23:03.289 --> 01:23:06.760
Please tell us. But it's cool that this experience has
1910
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:12.149
awakened some psychic ability. And better that you cry uncontrollably
1911
01:23:12.170 --> 01:23:14.909
when there's something around than you not know that something's around.
1912
01:23:15.329 --> 01:23:15.550
Right.
1913
01:23:15.649 --> 01:23:17.489
Or get possessed by it. Well, yes.
1914
01:23:18.090 --> 01:23:19.810
That is definitely much better.
1915
01:23:20.829 --> 01:23:23.550
It's like they had a spiritual awakening, but it was
1916
01:23:23.569 --> 01:23:26.380
a spiritual awakening within their own powers.
1917
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:27.029
Yes.
1918
01:23:27.579 --> 01:23:29.420
Which I love. Yes. That's awesome.
1919
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:31.819
And I'm glad that Mikey Mike did not drown you
1920
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:35.739
in Carol, because that would have been pretty, we never
1921
01:23:35.770 --> 01:23:36.550
would have gotten this story.
1922
01:23:37.149 --> 01:23:40.850
I like how it's Carol, but like described as Carol Baskin,
1923
01:23:40.890 --> 01:23:44.329
but less powerful than Carol. Because Carol has all the power,
1924
01:23:44.510 --> 01:23:46.109
as we've learned from Tiger King.
1925
01:23:46.170 --> 01:23:46.850
Yeah, well.
1926
01:23:47.149 --> 01:23:47.989
Don't mess with Carol.
1927
01:23:48.069 --> 01:23:49.109
Don't mess with Carol.
1928
01:23:49.430 --> 01:23:51.850
Okay, well, not a Carol, but a Carly. I have
1929
01:23:51.939 --> 01:23:55.979
an email from our listener, Carly. It's punny. It's called
1930
01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:57.199
Saved by the Yell.
1931
01:23:57.520 --> 01:23:57.720
Hmm.
1932
01:23:58.210 --> 01:23:59.229
That are saved by the bell.
1933
01:24:00.329 --> 01:24:05.869
Okay. Thank you for the explanation. Some people. That's true.
1934
01:24:05.890 --> 01:24:08.020
That's true. I mean, think about the times that we
1935
01:24:08.060 --> 01:24:10.039
don't know anything. Kids. Yes.
1936
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:14.399
Hey there, ghosty gals. Long time listener. First time emailer.
1937
01:24:14.579 --> 01:24:17.300
I've always been hesitant to share my family's experiences because
1938
01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:20.819
I've never really categorized them as ghost encounters. My family
1939
01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:24.350
is very religious, so we have always viewed each experience
1940
01:24:24.390 --> 01:24:27.210
through more of a spiritual lens, but who really knows, right?
1941
01:24:27.710 --> 01:24:29.770
I have several that I could share, but my grandpa
1942
01:24:29.789 --> 01:24:32.189
has always been my favorite to tell. When my grandpa
1943
01:24:32.210 --> 01:24:35.130
was around 13 years old, his parents had converted their
1944
01:24:35.189 --> 01:24:37.949
basement into a bedroom for him. They had a big family,
1945
01:24:38.069 --> 01:24:41.000
so they were always making renovations and additions in order
1946
01:24:41.060 --> 01:24:44.239
to accommodate everyone. He had wanted his own space for
1947
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:47.479
quite a while, so before they were even done converting,
1948
01:24:47.539 --> 01:24:49.579
he threw his bed down the stairs and began sleeping
1949
01:24:49.619 --> 01:24:52.329
in his new bedroom every night. For weeks, he slept
1950
01:24:52.369 --> 01:24:55.329
without any issues. It wasn't until one night he woke
1951
01:24:55.369 --> 01:24:57.930
up very suddenly and instantly felt like something was wrong.
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He couldn't quite place why or what he was feeling,
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but either way, his rationalizing was not giving him any comfort.
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Not being able to shake the feeling, he ran upstairs
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and started wandering the house, checking to see if anything
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was awry. After a few minutes of tiptoeing around, he
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started to feel more at ease, so he headed back
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down to the This uneasy feeling returned, only this time
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it was coupled with a loud voice telling him to
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sleep upstairs. This voice was not coming from anywhere in
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the room. It was a voice that was in his head.
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He quickly rationalized it as just one of those thoughts.
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But then the voice became louder and more urgent. It
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was like a separate entity jumped inside of his brain
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and sent him this internal message. So now he was spooked.
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He jumped out of bed. He ran upstairs to his
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parents' room and he shook his mother awake. He didn't
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tell her what he'd heard or felt. thinking that she
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would tell him that he was just imagining things. So
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he just pleaded with her to let him sleep in
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the living room. She reminded him that he had nagged
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her and his father to no end about letting him
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sleep in the basement before construction was over, so he
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needed to go back down to his own bed and
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go to sleep. Feeling frustrated and still a little panicked,
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he headed back downstairs. He didn't make it very far, though.
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He once again heard the voice tell him to sleep upstairs,
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and now he felt as though someone was physically tugging
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him away from his room.
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Oh my gosh.
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At this point. There was no way that he was
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sleeping in this basement. He turned around and he plopped
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down on the living room couch. He wasn't sure why
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or how, but he just knew that he was receiving
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a warning, and at this point, facing an angry mother
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seemed much easier to deal with than whatever the alternative was.
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The next morning, he woke up to the sound of
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his mother shouting his name. He prepared himself for an
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angry rant, but instead was surprised to see his mother
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rushing to his side and squeezing him tight. She looked
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at him, extremely emotional, and let him know that there
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had been a gas leak in the basement.
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Ah!
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My grandpa felt a strong sense of peace rush over
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him and started to become emotional as well. He told
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his mother about what he'd felt and about the loud
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voice that urged him to sleep upstairs. She smiled and
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she told him that he surely had someone watching over him.
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That experience gave my grandpa a permanent sense of comfort
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about his life and what is beyond. Unfortunately, he passed
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away a few years back from leukemia, but he was
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content to move on. He lives a good, long life.
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and was anxious to meet and thank whoever had saved
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him that night. Thanks for providing me with endless content
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to listen to during my hours of data entry at work.
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Stay spooky, ladies. Carly.
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That's amazing.
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Oh, isn't it? It's like those stories when people are
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driving and they just hear, like, stop at the red
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light or whatever. It was consistent. It was like, do
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not sleep downstairs.
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For it to not give up. Yes.
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And to physically feel as if he was being pulled
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when he was trying to go back down again.
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That is.
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I just... Again, I just– I mean, maybe I haven't
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been in a situation where I need a guardian to, like,
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warn me about things. I mean, no, I definitely have,
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but they haven't warned me, let me tell you. I
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just– where is my guardian?
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I mean, you haven't almost died from a carbon monoxide leak. No,
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you're right. So maybe the event that that happens where it's, like,
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truly death is imminent in this scenario, you would hear
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a warning perhaps. But my goodness, it sounds like, honestly–
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I think the good thing about this story is that
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it sounds like no matter what, even if he had
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tried to ignore that voice, I don't think he would
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have ended up sleeping downstairs.
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No.
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I think this thing would have physically.
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Dragged him up the stairs. Dragged him up.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Or just slammed doors and stuff until everybody was awake.
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Yeah.
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It seems like there would be a big enough commotion
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that there was never a chance that.
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He would truly– I agree with that.
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Sleep downstairs and die.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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I wonder if that guardian is now Carly's guardian or
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if Carly's grandpa is now her guardian and the protective
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chain will continue on and.
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On right yeah who is it i'm curious i know
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only a guardian angel is it a relative was it
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just someone who was a ghost hanging out in the house.
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Who just knew who just knew i don't know that's
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the thing but what do i know I do know
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that I love getting stories from our listeners. Yes. And
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I do know I encourage you all to send them
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to us, whatever they're about.
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Truth.
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Any topic, sad, happy, scary, anything, please email them to
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us at twogirls1ghostpodcast at gmail.com.
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You can rate and review us on iTunes. That's super
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helpful to us. Do it to all the podcasts you
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listen to. It's truly very, very helpful, as is word
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of mouth. It's spooky season. People– Even if they're non-believers
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are going to want spooky stuff right now.
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Yes.
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So tell them. Everything.
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Tell them everything. All about us. There are lots of
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other ways to support us. We have merch. We have Patreon.
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We have a Facebook page. We have Twitter. We have TikTok,
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which we're trying to brainstorm now. new ways to get
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Corinne to become TikTok famous.
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And we're going to be content creators. We're just, we're
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in the brainstorming phase.
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Yes, exactly. We are content creators, but we are going
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to be it on TikTok. And thank you so much
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to Aiden Manning at Upfire Digital for editing our podcast.
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We are so eternally grateful for you. And we promise
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that we won't haunt you in the afterlife, aside from
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maybe protecting you from gas leaks, if that ever happens.
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Yeah.
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We'll protect all of our listeners.
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That's true.
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Yes.
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And we will see you on the other side.
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Very spooky.