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Welcome to Navigating Advocacy, the true
crime podcast that goes beyond storytelling to ignite
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change and seek justice. I'm Melissa
and I'm Whitney. It's true crime enthusiast
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turn passionate advocate. We've seen the
power of storytelling raise awareness about unsolved crime
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and bring hope to victims and their
families. We hope to inspire action and
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promote positive change within the true crime
community. Our definition of action oriented advocacy
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is doing something more than just talking
about the issues. It's taking concrete steps
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to address them. We're here to
empower you to also become advocates for change,
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no matter where or who you are. We are Navigating Advocacy. We
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discuss topics that may be sensitive to
listeners. Discretion is advised. So August
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eighteenth, I fly from Tampa into
Austin, Texas to meet up with Whitney,
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so then we can just turn around
and drive twelve ish hours to Albuquerque.
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It was good times. We said
we were going to work. We
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did not work. We did not
work. It was a long day for
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Melissa, and I felt really bad
because she did. She traveled literally across
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the United States in multiple forms of
transportation, So we get to Eric's house
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pretty late that evening. Eric was
our gracious host. That was like literally
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better than a full service B and
B. It was better than any hotel
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we've ever stayed at. Yeah,
that's nice. We had Like in New
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Mexico. You don't get mints on
your pillow, you green chili's on your
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pillow, amazed, which I actually
used mine and Melissa's because Mossa couldn't fly
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with hers. You didn't fly this
week? Awesome, What did you do?
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What did you do? I made
chicken tacos with it my enstapot.
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It was super good. Had to
fight my husband off for the leftovers tonight
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for dinner. That's amazing. That's
so good. I'm glad. Yeah.
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I believe in giving green chili.
I believe in feeding people. It's my
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love language, and green chili is
you know, New Mexican. New Mexico
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cuisine is really close to my heart, So I believe in exposing people to
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it and bragging about it NonStop and
constantly eating it. That's my story.
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I also took you to a restaurant, did a very important restaurant special restaurant.
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I guess it's not necessarily important,
but it's special. Yeah, it's
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an old place, it's a hole
in the wall, but the food is
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it's like my grandma made it.
So I'm glad we had to have that,
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got to have that. I'm pretty
sure someone's grandma is in that kitchen
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making it. Lots of love in
that food. Yeah, the soap uppias
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alone so good. Yeah, life
changing. You gotta ask. You gotta
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ask. A New Mexican will teach
you how to do it. But that's
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not why you came to New Mexico. It wasn't just for the food.
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No, it was not just for
the food. We decided a long time
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ago that we were going to do
our an action oriented advocacy case in Albuquerque,
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one because Eric was there, and
two because there is no shortage of
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cases that need to be covered in
New Mexico by any means, specifically Albuquerque.
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We put it off for what three
or four quarters. We just ended
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up going other places and finally decided
it was time and why not cram everything
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into one week. That's how we
like to do things, and we chose
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Albuquerque, got out there and decided
to host an event. Yeah, we
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decided like the week before to host
an event, so we weren't really super
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prepared. I think we planned the
entire trip like three weeks before, so
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it's not like we had been planning
this for extended periods of time. We
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just didn't know specifically what we were
going to do with our particular case.
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Tyra's case, it was a little
bit difficult because it was an old case,
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her family wasn't around, a lot
of the people that were involved were
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in no longer with us. So
we wanted an event that was going to
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make an impact, not just for
Tyro's case, but for a lot of
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the issues that Albuquerque in New Mexico
is facing. So that's when we decided
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on this Honkin Wave. Whitney and
I had done one before up in Washington,
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and so we knew the gist of
what to do and how to bring
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it together. And the three of
us just started pushing it out about what
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maybe five six seven days before the
event and had quite a bit of traction.
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We made signs to go out,
contact a few local groups, contacted
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media, anyone that really wanted to
come out, and it was an overwhelmingly
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but amazing event. I think going
into it, I really thought if we
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had ten people ten it would be
a successful. Man, So I have
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one person I would consider its successful, but I estimated about ten people would
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make the time on that short of
notice to come out. As we were
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sitting there, we decided to meet
at Civic Plaza, which is this place
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downtown in Albuquerque, not far from
the courthouse, not far from the local
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police department, and it's just near
the convention Center. It's a good meet
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up place. There's parking nearby.
It's a great hub. Book City halls
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right there too, so right on
the other side of Civic Plaza. So
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it's like all of the government for
Albuquerque is basically in that two block area.
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And if you're going to be loud, why not be loud where someone
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who can make a change can hear. That's the whole purpose. I want
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to shout out the New Mexico Crusaders
for Justice. They are an amazing support
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group that has chapters all over the
state. They're a group of grieving family
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members that are just helping each other
and listening to each other, and they
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do crafts and paint knights and things
like that together and it's just a really
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lovely community. And I think if
it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have
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had the turnout that we had.
So I'm grateful for them. So check
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them out on Facebook if you are
interested in learning more about them. Yes,
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I agree. I think Whitney and
I arrived, then you and your
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mom came to Eric and Chrsaders were
the founders. The co founders were there
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around that time. And then just
more and more families started showing up.
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They were bringing wagons and their posters
and they were wearing shirts, and every
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time a new family would come up, we would I would just start tearing
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up all over again. I was
shocked at the number of people that made
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the time to come to this event
and that had families that were literally killed
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within the last couple of weeks or
the last couple of years. Ah,
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it was just we had one family
member there that was days after her daughter
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was murdered. Days I just to
process grief and how and know that this
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is what your future looks like until
change is made, that you're just gonna
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have to get out there, continue
to make noid over and over until legislation
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happens or relay start to give a
shit. There's just so many things that
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need to happen. It's it's definitely
a testament to why my show exists,
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and there's such a huge need for
advocacy in New Mexico. There's such a
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huge need for voices to be lifted
up and to be brought to the forefront,
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and for legislators to listen to these
families because there are so many of
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them. There's just it's endless.
When we were there at Civic Plaza waiting
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to leave, like there was a
couple of waves and the first wave,
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I was like, okay, this
is probably like let's maybe we should start
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walking, and then before you know
it, like more people are coming and
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more people and they were just coming
in like waves. And that's really how
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I see what's happening in this state. Just waves and waves of grief and
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loss and man, it's heartbreaking,
but it's also inspiring. And the good
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thing that I've seen is like a
lot of those families have continued. You
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know, they had another march on
September fourth, there's another one coming up
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on September thirtieth, so they're still
doing it and I'm going to try to
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get to as many of those as
I can as well. But it's incredible
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to see that momentum continue, that's
amazing. It's so amazing because like it
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just takes one time of starting something
before this trickle effect where they're like,
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hey, we can do this.
It's not that difficult and it's going to
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get the word out. And I'm
just so proud of Albuquerque me too.
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There was so many families that came
up to us that said thank you for
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putting this together. And we really
didn't do anything. We made a Facebook
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event and said hey, meet us
here, and everyone else did all like,
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everyone did equal amount of work.
All we did was picked a time.
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So knowing that something so small was
so impactful is powerful. Yeah,
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And the coolest thing was on the
Crusaders group. I think it was Sally
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that tagged like one of the reporters
at the local news station and said,
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hey, FYI, this is happening. Can you have someone there? And
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they did. That's amazing to have
that kind of platform where you could just
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be like, Hi, we're doing
something, can you guys show up?
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And then they do. That's incredible. I'm so amazed by those women we
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do and shout out to that TV
station for actually following through saying yeah,
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we will be there and then actually
showing up actually doing a story over it.
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And it wasn't just one story.
They did a digital story. It
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was on the actual news. There
was several Yeah. Yeah, and Melissa,
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I think you were on there.
I was on there. I was
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on there ferminent. I'm glad I
was in the print version and not the
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TV version. Yeah, there's a
reason why we do podcasting. There's a
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few reasons. Very good events.
Awesome. Yeah, we have what Eric
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has been working on in the background
for quite a while. It was announced
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that weekend or was it right after
that? So I think I got my
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certification like that weekend or like that
Thursday, And I think I told you
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guys if I remember correctly. Yeah. So, yeah, we've been working
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hard at Angel's Voices Silence No More, which is a new nonprofit, not
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new, but new. I've been
working on this for probably two years now,
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and through a sad tale of misplaced
trust, I waited for over a
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year or almost a year to get
my nonprofit status from the IRS. But
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we moved past that and I went
ahead and took care of it and got
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it done in four weeks, which
is pretty cool and mildly infuriating at the
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same time. But yeah, Angel's
Voices started off as a dream that my
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mom and I had as we were
talking about Jacob's case and talking about how
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we didn't want anybody to anybody else
to ever feel like we felt when Jacob
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was murdered. We didn't want them
to feel alone. We wanted them to
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know that there was hope and that
there were people who would listen to them.
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My mom actually named the organization.
We went back and forth and that's
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where we ended up with Angel's Voices
Silenced No More. I think it's she
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now is like second guessing the name, but I think it's really perfect because
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there are moments when you do feel
like your loved one's voice has been silenced.
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You feel like their voice has been
taken from them, and it has
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literally but also in a figurative manner, right like especially with Jacob's case,
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because there was no coverage until thirty
plus years after he had already been murdered.
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The mission of Angels Voices Silence No
More is to empower families by providing
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them with the necessary resources and referrals
to advocate for their missing or murdered loved
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ones. We believe in taking a
comprehensive approach to support, encompassing a wide
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range of services including paying for billboards, DNA testing, private investigations, funeral
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expenses, therapy, and pretty much
anything that a family might need in their
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quests for justice and answers related to
their loved ones. Our vision is starts
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off with a very simple sentence,
there's always We envision New Mexico as a
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place where justice is not just a
concept, but a reality for every victim
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and their families. I'm getting emotional
because it's really amazing to have this all
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starting to happen in real life because
it started as a dream. Our organization
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is committed to creating a victim focused
support network that serves as a beacon of
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hope and resilience. In this vision, families fighting for justice find themselves surrounded
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by a compassionate community that understands their
pain and stands by their side. It's
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just perfect, and I'm so glad
that it's finally off the ground. I
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know it's been weighing heavily on you
and the very short but feels like forever
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time that I've known you. That
was like just yesterday, like ninety three
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years ago. At the same time
agreed, Yeah, it really was a
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long time ago. I don't know
why it feels like it was so long.
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Yeah, it's amazing to be here
at this point where we're actively raising
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money, we getting out there on
social media talking about it like I am
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now with you're going to We're a
direct to vendor granting organization. We try
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to make sure that there's no challenges
with honesty or people taking advantage of the
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situation to say that anybody would,
but we want to make sure that those
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buffers are in place so that we
can ensure the donors that their money is
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going where we say it's going.
Sure, so we're gonna be very strict
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about that. We're going to require
an invoice, and we'll be paying directly
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to vendors funeral homes, therapy providers, never resources. We'll be leveraging the
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money likely in that manner. So
I'm excited. I think that we have
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the ability to do a lot of
good in this community, and I think
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that it's going to be really cool
to see what happens over the next like
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five years with us. Mistlie,
I believe in what you're doing. I
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think that there's a lot of good
that can come from this. I know
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that there's a need because you needed
it, your family needed it. There's
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millions of others out there that need
it. So my willingness to help is
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just that the next thing that we
we have been working on. It was
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originally Eric's dream that he again,
so he's moved from this nonprofit organization that
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he's wanted to build. He's building
it. Now. What's the next thing
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that we can build and that's creating
a conference that takes what his nonprofit is
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doing, what his podcast is doing, what our podcast is doing, and
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amplifies it to the what one hundredth
degree, and it's going to be cuge,
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amazing. It's definitely something that was
needed. Whitney and I have had
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many conversations when a loved one good's
missing, or it's murdered, what happens
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next? What does the family need
to know? What did they do?
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What resources are out there? And
every state it's different. Obviously, Let's
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just take a young single mom that
her husband died, what next? And
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so many people don't know what to
do. Obviously, before you're in this
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true crime space, I had no
clue what was needed that type of thing
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and I think that this conference is
going to shed a light on all of
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these things. This is going to
open up so many people's eyes and open
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up doors, and so that people
like you, Eric don't feel alone like
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your mom, having no idea which
way to turn, who to turn too,
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who to trust, because there are
so many people out there that might
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be spreading misinformation and doing things for
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It's something none of us prepare for. You don't know if someone you
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love will go missing or happen to
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down to build this, where do
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figure out what your mission is.
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is, what do we want,
what do we expect from this conference?
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What sort of information are we going
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back to building this community because,
as the saying goes, it takes a
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village. One person cannot do this
on their own. So we created the
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vision that we want to build a
community where families of the missing and murdered
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find unwavering support and strength within a
united and compassionate environment. So we want
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people to feel safe, We want
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We want people to listen to their
stories and come up with creative ways
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to keep their loved ones in the
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the media, because we all know
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or not something's going to actually be
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the media on law enforcement, they're
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or break a case, that's for
sure. So where it started, we
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are still very much in the planning
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be an active conference until twenty twenty
five. We don't have this set date
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yet, but look for at spring
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this is something you're interested in doing
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twenty twenty five. And being on
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some extra things which aren't all set
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soon. There's also space for if
you have a specific skill, if you
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are a private investigator, if you
are an expert, I don't know,
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a facial reconstructive artist, if you're
an anthropologist, if you are a scientist,
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or if you have a skill that
you think could be utilized in the
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true crime industry that maybe isn't something
commonly thought of. Let us know,
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all right, so please visit BW
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Welcome to Navigating Advocacy, the true
crime podcast that goes beyond storytelling to ignite
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change and seek justice. I'm Melissa
and I'm Whitney. It's true crime enthusiast
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turn passionate advocate. We've seen the
power of storytelling raise awareness about unsolved crime
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and bring hope to victims and their
families. We hope to inspire action and
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promote positive change within the true crime
community. Our definition of action oriented advocacy
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is doing something more than just talking
about the issues. It's taking concrete steps
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to address them. We're here to
empower you to also become advocates for change,
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no matter where or who you are. We are Navigating Advocacy. We
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discuss topics that may be sensitive to
listeners. Discretion is advised. So August
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eighteenth, I fly from Tampa into
Austin, Texas to meet up with Whitney,
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so then we can just turn around
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It was good times. We said
we were going to work. We
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did not work. We did not
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Melissa, and I felt really bad
because she did. She traveled literally across
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the United States in multiple forms of
transportation, So we get to Eric's house
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pretty late that evening. Eric was
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better than a full service B and
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we've ever stayed at. Yeah,
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Mexico. You don't get mints on
your pillow, you green chili's on your
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pillow, amazed, which I actually
used mine and Melissa's because Mossa couldn't fly
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with hers. You didn't fly this
week? Awesome, What did you do?
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What did you do? I made
chicken tacos with it my enstapot.
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It was super good. Had to
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for dinner. That's amazing. That's
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I believe in giving green chili.
I believe in feeding people. It's my
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love language, and green chili is
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cuisine is really close to my heart, So I believe in exposing people to
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it and bragging about it NonStop and
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I also took you to a restaurant, did a very important restaurant special restaurant.
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I guess it's not necessarily important,
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an old place, it's a hole
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it's like my grandma made it.
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got to have that. I'm pretty
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making it. Lots of love in
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alone so good. Yeah, life
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ask. A New Mexican will teach
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not why you came to New Mexico. It wasn't just for the food.
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No, it was not just for
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ago that we were going to do
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one because Eric was there, and
two because there is no shortage of
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cases that need to be covered in
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We put it off for what three
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up going other places and finally decided
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into one week. That's how we
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Albuquerque, got out there and decided
to host an event. Yeah, we
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decided like the week before to host
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prepared. I think we planned the
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it's not like we had been planning
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just didn't know specifically what we were
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Tyra's case, it was a little
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her family wasn't around, a lot
of the people that were involved were
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in no longer with us. So
we wanted an event that was going to
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make an impact, not just for
Tyro's case, but for a lot of
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the issues that Albuquerque in New Mexico
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on this Honkin Wave. Whitney and
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and so we knew the gist of
what to do and how to bring
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it together. And the three of
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maybe five six seven days before the
event and had quite a bit of traction.
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media, anyone that really wanted to
come out, and it was an overwhelmingly
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but amazing event. I think going
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had ten people ten it would be
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one person I would consider its successful, but I estimated about ten people would
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make the time on that short of
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sitting there, we decided to meet
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downtown in Albuquerque, not far from
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police department, and it's just near
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up place. There's parking nearby.
It's a great hub. Book City halls
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right there too, so right on
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it's like all of the government for
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who can make a change can hear. That's the whole purpose. I want
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to shout out the New Mexico Crusaders
for Justice. They are an amazing support
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group that has chapters all over the
state. They're a group of grieving family
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members that are just helping each other
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do crafts and paint knights and things
like that together and it's just a really
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lovely community. And I think if
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had the turnout that we had.
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them out on Facebook if you are
interested in learning more about them. Yes,
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I agree. I think Whitney and
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mom came to Eric and Chrsaders were
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around that time. And then just
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They were bringing wagons and their posters
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time a new family would come up, we would I would just start tearing
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up all over again. I was
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the time to come to this event
and that had families that were literally killed
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within the last couple of weeks or
the last couple of years. Ah,
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it was just we had one family
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was murdered. Days I just to
process grief and how and know that this
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is what your future looks like until
change is made, that you're just gonna
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have to get out there, continue
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happens or relay start to give a
shit. There's just so many things that
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need to happen. It's it's definitely
a testament to why my show exists,
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and there's such a huge need for
advocacy in New Mexico. There's such a
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huge need for voices to be lifted
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and for legislators to listen to these
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them. There's just it's endless.
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to leave, like there was a
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I was like, okay, this
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walking, and then before you know
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more people and they were just coming
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I see what's happening in this state. Just waves and waves of grief and
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loss and man, it's heartbreaking,
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thing that I've seen is like a
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know, they had another march on
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on September thirtieth, so they're still
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get to as many of those as
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to see that momentum continue, that's
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just takes one time of starting something
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hey, we can do this.
It's not that difficult and it's going to
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get the word out. And I'm
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There was so many families that came
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putting this together. And we really
didn't do anything. We made a Facebook
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event and said hey, meet us
here, and everyone else did all like,
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everyone did equal amount of work.
All we did was picked a time.
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So knowing that something so small was
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And the coolest thing was on the
Crusaders group. I think it was Sally
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that tagged like one of the reporters
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hey, FYI, this is happening. Can you have someone there? And
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they did. That's amazing to have
that kind of platform where you could just
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be like, Hi, we're doing
something, can you guys show up?
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do and shout out to that TV
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we will be there and then actually
showing up actually doing a story over it.
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They did a digital story. It
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was on the actual news. There
was several Yeah. Yeah, and Melissa,
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I think you were on there.
I was on there. I was
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on there ferminent. I'm glad I
was in the print version and not the
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TV version. Yeah, there's a
reason why we do podcasting. There's a
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few reasons. Very good events.
Awesome. Yeah, we have what Eric
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has been working on in the background
for quite a while. It was announced
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that weekend or was it right after
that? So I think I got my
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certification like that weekend or like that
Thursday, And I think I told you
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guys if I remember correctly. Yeah. So, yeah, we've been working
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hard at Angel's Voices Silence No More, which is a new nonprofit, not
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new, but new. I've been
working on this for probably two years now,
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and through a sad tale of misplaced
trust, I waited for over a
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year or almost a year to get
my nonprofit status from the IRS. But
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we moved past that and I went
ahead and took care of it and got
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it done in four weeks, which
is pretty cool and mildly infuriating at the
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same time. But yeah, Angel's
Voices started off as a dream that my
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mom and I had as we were
talking about Jacob's case and talking about how
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we didn't want anybody to anybody else
to ever feel like we felt when Jacob
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was murdered. We didn't want them
to feel alone. We wanted them to
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know that there was hope and that
there were people who would listen to them.
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My mom actually named the organization.
We went back and forth and that's
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where we ended up with Angel's Voices
Silenced No More. I think it's she
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now is like second guessing the name, but I think it's really perfect because
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there are moments when you do feel
like your loved one's voice has been silenced.
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You feel like their voice has been
taken from them, and it has
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literally but also in a figurative manner, right like especially with Jacob's case,
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because there was no coverage until thirty
plus years after he had already been murdered.
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The mission of Angels Voices Silence No
More is to empower families by providing
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them with the necessary resources and referrals
to advocate for their missing or murdered loved
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ones. We believe in taking a
comprehensive approach to support, encompassing a wide
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range of services including paying for billboards, DNA testing, private investigations, funeral
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expenses, therapy, and pretty much
anything that a family might need in their
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quests for justice and answers related to
their loved ones. Our vision is starts
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off with a very simple sentence,
there's always We envision New Mexico as a
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place where justice is not just a
concept, but a reality for every victim
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and their families. I'm getting emotional
because it's really amazing to have this all
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starting to happen in real life because
it started as a dream. Our organization
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is committed to creating a victim focused
support network that serves as a beacon of
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hope and resilience. In this vision, families fighting for justice find themselves surrounded
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by a compassionate community that understands their
pain and stands by their side. It's
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just perfect, and I'm so glad
that it's finally off the ground. I
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know it's been weighing heavily on you
and the very short but feels like forever
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time that I've known you. That
was like just yesterday, like ninety three
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years ago. At the same time
agreed, Yeah, it really was a
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long time ago. I don't know
why it feels like it was so long.
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Yeah, it's amazing to be here
at this point where we're actively raising
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money, we getting out there on
social media talking about it like I am
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now with you're going to We're a
direct to vendor granting organization. We try
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to make sure that there's no challenges
with honesty or people taking advantage of the
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situation to say that anybody would,
but we want to make sure that those
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buffers are in place so that we
can ensure the donors that their money is
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going where we say it's going.
Sure, so we're gonna be very strict
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about that. We're going to require
an invoice, and we'll be paying directly
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to vendors funeral homes, therapy providers, never resources. We'll be leveraging the
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money likely in that manner. So
I'm excited. I think that we have
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the ability to do a lot of
good in this community, and I think
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that it's going to be really cool
to see what happens over the next like
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five years with us. Mistlie,
I believe in what you're doing. I
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think that there's a lot of good
that can come from this. I know
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that there's a need because you needed
it, your family needed it. There's
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millions of others out there that need
it. So my willingness to help is
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just that the next thing that we
we have been working on. It was
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originally Eric's dream that he again,
so he's moved from this nonprofit organization that
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he's wanted to build. He's building
it. Now. What's the next thing
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that we can build and that's creating
a conference that takes what his nonprofit is
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doing, what his podcast is doing, what our podcast is doing, and
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amplifies it to the what one hundredth
degree, and it's going to be cuge,
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amazing. It's definitely something that was
needed. Whitney and I have had
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many conversations when a loved one good's
missing, or it's murdered, what happens
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next? What does the family need
to know? What did they do?
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What resources are out there? And
every state it's different. Obviously, Let's
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just take a young single mom that
her husband died, what next? And
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so many people don't know what to
do. Obviously, before you're in this
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true crime space, I had no
clue what was needed that type of thing
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and I think that this conference is
going to shed a light on all of
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these things. This is going to
open up so many people's eyes and open
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up doors, and so that people
like you, Eric don't feel alone like
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your mom, having no idea which
way to turn, who to turn too,
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who to trust, because there are
so many people out there that might
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be spreading misinformation and doing things for
their own profit versus helping out these families.
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It's something none of us prepare for. You don't know if someone you
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love will go missing or happen to
be a victim. And when we sat
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down to build this, where do
you start with that? Obviously got to
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figure out what your mission is.
You got to figure out what your vision
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is, what do we want,
what do we expect from this conference?
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What sort of information are we going
to be sharing. And we kept coming
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back to building this community because,
as the saying goes, it takes a
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village. One person cannot do this
on their own. So we created the
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vision that we want to build a
community where families of the missing and murdered
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find unwavering support and strength within a
united and compassionate environment. So we want
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people to feel safe, We want
them to be able to share their stories.
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We want people to listen to their
stories and come up with creative ways
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to keep their loved ones in the
forefront of investigators' minds, in front of
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the media, because we all know
that media roles in this industry of whether
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or not something's going to actually be
done. When you have that pressure of
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the media on law enforcement, they're
more willing to do something could definitely make
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or break a case, that's for
sure. So where it started, we
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are still very much in the planning
stages. We know that it will not
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be an active conference until twenty twenty
five. We don't have this set date
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yet, but look for at spring
twenty twenty five. We are actively fundraising.
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We will be doing a lot of
incentive based ticket sells. So if
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this is something you're interested in doing
or donating to and you want to show
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up and you're ready to put it
on your calendar for twenty twenty five,
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you have the opportunity to buy your
ticket now and be prepared to go in
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twenty twenty five. And being on
the ground level, you're going to get
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some extra things which aren't all set
in stone yet, but we'll be there
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soon. There's also space for if
you have a specific skill, if you
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are a private investigator, if you
are an expert, I don't know,
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a facial reconstructive artist, if you're
an anthropologist, if you are a scientist,
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or if you have a skill that
you think could be utilized in the
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true crime industry that maybe isn't something
commonly thought of. Let us know,
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all right, so please visit BW
dot avcon dot com for further details.
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We'll also have some links to donations
and ticket sales on that site as well.
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You can also send us an email
if you have questions about the event.
