Why Spiritual Awakening Makes You Question Everything | Jen Tammy

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, I'm your host Paula Skatalone, the founder of Transformative Permanix, the podcast that offers listeners a synthesis of ancient wisdom and modern science.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, welcome back to Transformative Hermonics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host Paulus Cataloni.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to introduce someone who is so sweet today and beautiful and I'm so glad that she is here on this planet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jen is someone I came across who I thought embodies integrity, authenticity, clear channeling and beautiful example of what it means to be embodied through
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are in a place where you're trying to discern information, who should I listen to, what's real?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I trust this information or person or energy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jen, I think gives us a beautiful example of something that is real and authentic so that you can use that for yourself to determine, you know, as you meet other people and come across that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jen is someone I think who walks the talk and is clearly here to support those that are on the path of embodied awakening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She has 36 years of a career in research management in the pharmaceutical industry and she brings this in with her cumulative experience 17 years on the path of healing and service.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's hosted her own podcasts in the past, she's led spiritual groups, and she's offered many different services ranging from animal communication to bio and energetic healing to intuitive readings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's even received training and has a master's in intuitive arts and energy science.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, she's here to speak about her own personal healing journey, what catapulted her forward to opening her heart, aligning the ego mind and ultimately being an open channel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can find her now working as a channel, she is a light language practitioner, a life coach, and a spiritual teacher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She sees herself as a divine channel of healing energy light and love and she is a very practical approach that focuses on the expansion of the heart and your intuition and helps you expand your awareness so you can live your most authentic heart-centered and divinely aligned life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as I did and I will see you on the other side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello guests, welcome back to transformative harmonics, I'm your host Paulis Getteloni.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Before we begin today, as always, I would like to invite us to shift our frequency by slowing down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This allows us to create a little space so that the message and words and frequency of what's going to come through today has a place to land.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or underneath your seat or underneath your feet, whichever place begins to kind of shift you from 5th gear and 1st as you start to orient to that space behind you and the support that's always available so much in this podcast we're talking about tuning in to what is
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[SPEAKER_00]: So taking that last breath, I would love to start my conversation with Jen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were chatting before we began that I usually don't just serendipidrously call someone without knowing much about them and say, would you like to feel my podcast?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's something about your resonance and who you are and how you come through that
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[SPEAKER_00]: odd way of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would like this person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to spend an hour hearing her story and I also just find
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're channeling so unique and so, not only calming and helpful, but it's so authentic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'd love in this podcast to give examples of authentic, so people can use their discernment and understand what that means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's go ahead and start because I do not know a lot about you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to start with my own curiosity of about your path.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have looked at the website and so I'm always curious about, yeah, what has the awakening path been like for you up to this point and tell us a little bit about your journey
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, and it's pleasure to be here, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for having me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I sort of see my own awakening journey as a kind of a lifelong thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there are different times and moments that I remember very significantly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first, when I remember was when I was three to four years old, in my parents' non-denominational church
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[SPEAKER_01]: listening to the minister talk about God and the love of God and just like a remembrance, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this, this powerful remembrance and also of the feeling of separation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, like that feeling of it was separate from me now or that belief that it was separate from me and I mean it's amazing that I can remember that from that age, but I remember that feeling of oh my goodness, I need to connect with this human because this human knows that love and I know that love and I don't know how to get back to it like that sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my most powerful first memory of awakening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really feel like I didn't have any really significant moments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Until later, like in my 20s, is when I really had some powerful awakening moments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was, I remember reading the Celestean prophecy when it came out in 1993, 1994.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I read it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and having this moment of, oh my gosh, there's more to this than I understood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I was traveling for work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in the corporate world and the corporate pharmaceutical world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Started, that started in my 20s and I was flying all over the country and reading voraciously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So once I read that, then I was looking, I was seeking, I was trying to find other books.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you remember of, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: being you know still associating you know spirituality with church because that's what you know how I was brought up and seeking out a church at that time and finding a church that I call it like a I would call it like a in California it was like a spiritual rock kind of church like you know very useful church
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in my 20s, that was rather perfect, but the, the amazing part was I sat down in this church and they were singing these songs and like there was this remembrance again the same kind of thing where the tears are just flow flowing and I can't stop and it's this remembrance of I don't know how to reconnect with this, there was just this seeking this deep seeking and that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of continue, you know, well, it wasn't an ongoing thing in my life because I was super busy in my corporate life and traveling and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It continued and in my 30s again, I was married and my husband was overseas with a military that was during, you know, after 9-11 and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I found myself doing a lot of reading and seeking then and finding, you know, seeking answers,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a lot of books that led me down different paths and that, you know, where I took my inquiry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, then after it was interesting because then I got a divorce at 40 and I got I was really like catapulted into
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[SPEAKER_01]: my spirit to path at that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really when I see that things really started up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually started a group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I called it the girl's growth group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was I rallied my girlfriends and you know, I had my head got my own apartment and I would have this group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: come like once a month to my apartment and I would have a life coat, I would have a, you know, a spiritual, you know, some sort of spiritual teacher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have a psychic come and read us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have like different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that really kind of catapult the things and then that kind of took me to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I found a school called The Shocker House, this isn't, I lived in Madison, Wisconsin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's no longer there, it was a great school, because I got a master's program there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I started going to The Shocker House, going to school, and learning so much more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started another group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I started the spiritual explorers group in Madison.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a meetup group that grew and grew and grew.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just like, I discovered some of the, you know, the people that people might know now like LeHarris when he was Nothing, I mean he was just like one little monthly video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did a face-to-face Skype with LeHarris actually, he was probably one of the actual reading with and Yeah, so you know, and I didn't get to meet with I didn't get to meet the zes unfortunately LeHarris, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he didn't channel during that session, but we did have really great discussion and he was lovely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was probably nine, ten years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and then it's just kind of, you know, gone and gone and gone and gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: From there I started to take classes, more classes, and I started to kind of do my own little businesses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was doing, for a while, I was taking animal communication classes, and I was doing an animal communication business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I took Reiki with some different people and learned Reiki and did a small Reiki business for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did, I did, oh, I trained with, um, during virtue back in the day, like she did a lot of online classes and so I did an online class with her and learned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, okay, yeah, no, she's, she's, she's kind of miss, you know, I don't know, she's long gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not, she's, she did herself from the spiritual community for many years now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some people might remember her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was very big with, hey, how is some that group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But she did an Oracle cart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did Oracle cart training.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I did Oracle cart training her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for a number of things, I sort of dabbled in and did small businesses in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to say that, you know, through those through that time, I really lacked confidence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really lacked a lot of confidence in what I was doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So people would say, oh, you're doing this now, you're, you know, you're doing that, because I would change up a lot because I would just lose my confidence in what I was doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even now, you know, for example, when I was doing animal communication, I mean, I was working for a group that was called Lost Dogs of Wisconsin and they were using me to find dogs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not that I didn't know what I was doing, but I would just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: lose my comp and it's completely or think or if I didn't get feedback from people, you know, on my on what I gave them, I would think, oh, I'm not, you know, I'm not capable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not doing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I really attribute it to confidence during that time that I really didn't have confidence in what I was doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was doing it and I was doing it while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's when, you know, around that time,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was prop, I would say, let's see, I'm trying to estimate here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably around 2019, I really had, I would say, a really powerful dark night or 2018, dark night of the soul, really big, powerful dark night of the soul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where, you know, I was, my guides got me out of, I was living, I was, I had this house, I was, you know, I hadn't, I was kind of very much hermiting in this house that I was renting after my divorce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would spend their eight years and I really got this, everything kind of started falling apart in this house that I was renting and I, I was like, I got to get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I went and rented this apartment with my two dogs and,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just was miserable there, miserable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Life felt kind of miserable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, that's when I had started my business around that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had started my business, and I was blogging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Lee Harris who told me, you need the blog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need the blog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to write, and I'm always writing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always writing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm working on a book right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I've always been a big writer, and so I was writing, and I was very, um, it was very, what cathartic for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was very helpful for me to work through my stuff in that writing, even though I didn't have much of an audience at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I had this, I had this dark night of the soul or dark night of the ego I call it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where just melted down, like what I'm miserable, I, you know, I don't know what I'm doing in the corporate world, you know, here I am in my, you know, at the time what I was probably, I have to think back late 40s or, you know, around 50, probably late 40s and, um, and I just had this complete.
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[SPEAKER_01]: meltdown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, it was actually the perfect thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was on 111, which to me, and the apartment I had moved into was 111.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was sort of, I did feel it was cat-pulting me into a new beginning in hindsight, not in the moment, the moment it felt like my world was crashing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I, I was seeing a wonderful, a wonderful, I wouldn't color
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[SPEAKER_01]: that I saw where I met with like every quarter or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I met with her, it was, I remember it was February of 2019.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, okay, you need to get on the healing, like intense healing path.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had been on the healing path, but been working with healers all along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But she's like, you need to, you know, this needs to go, you know, you need to intensely aggressively take this healing journey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she just suggested, just go with your instincts, go, you know, someone who knows Reiki, like go with a good, really good person that you trust.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she also told me,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that I had a twin flame which was fabulous because that also catapulted me in a big way because I felt so alone in the world and just to have this hope and this faith that there was
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was sort of like she just dropped just those seeds and a few other seeds about my career path and, you know, where I was going and that things, you know, things were going to eventually take off and to have faith and she was also one that told me that I needed to to move like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: move like across the country like you need to you need to go you need to change your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were multiple things that she gave she kind of seated in me in that February 2019 reading and it was enough to inspire me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: mind you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was still in that cycle of sort of dinner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said denial, denial of even what she told me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it took me until about maybe June that year to actually make that first appointment with that healer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I went to a healer that was, um, I'd been to her for Reiki and she did a lot of other different types of healing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was also a hypnotherapist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and did a lot of different types of, of healing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I went to her and, you know, just intending like, oh yeah, well, this will be a visitor too, you know, like, and each visit was more and more powerful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I ended up going to her weekly for a year and a half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And literally it was funny because it got so expensive at one point, you know, so challenging with my budget that she actually spent an entire session going over my finances with me at a reworking my finances with me so that I could actually for you continue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was intense, Paula.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so intense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I have never, you know, it makes me gulp because I was in physical pain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was in physical pain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it went into, as you know, like it went into 2020.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was during COVID and there came a time when we had to do sessions over the phone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And luckily I was good enough dropping in at that point, dropping into that hip, you know, hypnosis state.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we could do it over the phone, but it was so intense and I had some really profound moments with that too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had some moments where, you know, we would be working on like family stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and that family member, I would turn my phone, you know, my cell phone off and put that in the other room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: After I'd be off of that, I have no therapy session.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would check my phone and it'd be five calls from that person and I would call, like, during, you know, during clearing the energy and I would go and call that person and they would be angry at me but not know why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so profound and some of the things that happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so while I was going through that and bringing up just stuff so much stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also had what I called my 911 healer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was this fabulous, fabulous healer who worked with music and she would, you know, I would get into this anxious state sometimes after one of my hypnotherapy sessions and literal physical pain and, you know, especially in the gut, those lower chakras.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's what we were really clearing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and she would work with me and help me to clear it in between those sessions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I literally had multiple healers working with me at once.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so that was my really intense time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've gone through kind of, I would say rounds of sort of healing all these fears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would literally call it fears, like ingrained fears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's past life fears, and it's fears from this life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's, and, and a lot of past life stuff was coming up as I was doing all this clearing, and it was, it's been profound, and I've been working with that hip-hop therapist I worked with for a year and a half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been working with the other healer, my 911 healer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: weekly ever since.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We meet every week and, you know, she's just a wonderful coach too for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like it has just been this, I really see it as sort of like peeling back beyond you, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, um, it's just been layers and layers and layers and it's not just this lifetime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people would say, gosh, you have you had that much traumatic stuff?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: not at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember of during, you know, an intense time of laying on my bed taking, you know, going to take a nap and just hearing this one word and going, what is that word?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Auschwitz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Auschwitz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so like the the past life started coming up, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw that, you know, I saw, like, for example, that my ex-husband was a guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was shown that he was a guard at Auschwitz, and I was the prisoner, and so, like, you know, all of the, it was profound, but I was shown this with family members and all these things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was so profound and beautiful because it just brought so much clarity to, to why I, you know, have all this intense fear and all of these,
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[SPEAKER_01]: feelings and also all the relationships and the purpose and kind of bringing things full circle in beautiful ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's it's really brought me
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, to a place of, wow, of just calm, you know, like the level of calm in my body, like it's just like, it was purging and purging and purging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, and I don't want to scare anyone because these right now, we can clear things like fast, fast, fast, fast, fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This, you know, as you know, I'm sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in past years, even in the last two, three years, like it was so much slower than it is now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so much more challenging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It took so much more time to clear those things and to have those realizations through, whereas now, you know, I can have a session with, you know, I can feel something and have a session with my healer, or even just sit by myself and I know how to clear it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know how to clear it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so it's a profound difference.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I really feel like it's been this long process of, you know, not just a awakening, but clearing and opening my channel, you know, and as it's coming full circle with that back to like sort of the channeling in the light language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, channeling I've been doing gosh without realizing I was doing it to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I was in that class, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably 12 years ago, in the chakra host class, where I was getting that master's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the students hanging out with some of the students and they were at my house one day and I said to some, one of them, gosh, you know, I journal every night and I've had these journal entries lately that don't even sound like they're me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I brought my journal out and showed it to her and she goes, you're channeling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you're tanneling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, what's I didn't know what tanneling was?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had no idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she started actually channeling, you know, in our group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then I really understood tanneling a bit more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mind you, I didn't start stepping it until just recently, in the last year is when I really started speaking it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was really at the nudging of my own healer coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she just said,
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's time to start speaking it and I had already been speaking light language so it felt more natural to you know I had opened to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So recap a little bit just so people are with us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that we're walking through the details of all the different things that can happen along the journey because I do think there's a lot of people who you have physical symptoms and they don't understand why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, or their marriage breaks up and they don't understand why or their miserable their job all the sudden and they don't understand why and so your journey is about helping us to reflect and say well maybe this is what happening just because it's happening maybe this is part of your awakening
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you went through those and then had to get support for the physical part of it and work the physical and the emotional together, which is also a piece because it's not only physical when it's physical and it's also the emotional is the meat of it, really, the emotional body and the purging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's, I think it's a beautiful description of the depth and, you know, it does take commitment, however, it is shorter, back then in 2019, many of us didn't know what we were in the middle of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't, it was, it was the first wave or, I don't know if 2007 was the first wave and we were the second, but it was the first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, right, really collective wave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just, I mean, yeah, I just thought, I mean, at times, you know, am I going crazy, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, so, so there's so much material now and there's so many reference points, right, which is beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also like that you're talking about that there's a range of different healers that we can go to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have to be one certain one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you just follow your
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, as you evolved, you understood that you were intuitive, you understood that you were now on a path I'm assuming with your career that you had you left the corporate world at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so keeping it all which is also a choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people, you know, they keep everything intact and move through with it all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some step off a cliff and leave and fall into space, spaciousness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you stayed and through that, then you began to really tap into and fine tune your intuition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you realize, wow, writing is a form of channeling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Writing, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe that I believe music as well, people who produce music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a form of channeling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as an interpreter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think of us as, yeah, like the switchboard operator or a linguist, I think of it as a linguist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It really is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're a linguist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so let's start there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened with that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How did that journey?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That piece of the journey open?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, let's start with the light language, because that is what came through, I mean, while I was channeling, I mean, what is the light language?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Light language seems to be about three years ago for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, late language, I really see it as a, you know, it's also channeling, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's channeling of it's all sort of energetic channeling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I always tell people, you know, especially when I'm in sessions with people like, you know, I'm channeling through in all these different ways and it's all energy and it's all light and it's all divine love, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's just being brought through in different ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I see light language as sort of a translation of light.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of, you know, it's energetic, it can be a message, it can be so many different elements to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I really, I feel it, I'm one of those people that feel it in my body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel the energy up it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other people can sometimes get, you know, actual messages through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I can set intentions around it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like I will every month for my Patreon members, I actually set an intention and channels through about, you know, eight to 10 minutes of light language around that intention so that it can be a very intentional healing energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas some of the stuff I do on social media, I just bring through whatever comes through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I know that it's meant for people, and I know that it's energetic, and I know it will be received by whoever it needs to be received by.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just bring through whatever comes through and just trust that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the light language,
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[SPEAKER_01]: my own coach healer that I work with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She has always spoken like language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I knew it from the beginning and I didn't, but I didn't really know or understand what it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I first started to speak it, I noticed, for example, I was doing the dishes in the kitchen and I was speaking gibberish, like just talking to myself and I'm like, what is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I asked her about it and she said that slang language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't, you know, it was, the ego mind can get really in the way without with everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's what we have to get out of the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the beginning it was, you know, it was sort of the analysis paralysis where I would start to speak it and my mind would be like picking it a part or what is that or the sound sillier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was kind of, it was a little bit challenging for me in the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't flowing so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I had this really profound and beautiful experience where one of my dogs was dying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she wanted to go naturally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was a very strong soul, very strong will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she wanted to go on her own.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually was going to have her euthanized.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she turned around and gave me a dirty look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was like, don't you dare?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was a hysterical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: was laying on my bed and I was, you know, just literally holding, holding, holding ritual with her, you know, for a couple of days as she, as she was going through the dying process.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was beautiful and profound and heart-breaking at the same time, but the most beautiful thing that happened, Paula, was I was sitting with her one day, you know, as she was going
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[SPEAKER_01]: Volatling which just started flowing and I was singing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was speaking different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say different dialects different dialects were coming through
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[SPEAKER_01]: some of them sounded like, you know, like a child, I mean, they were just beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the most beautiful thing was she at that point was really couldn't lure her body and she lifted her head up and listened to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, this is, I don't know what this is, but this is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just so beautiful and profound and it lasted probably close to an hour that I spoke it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was so cute because, you know, I truly believe our dogs are our animals, our guides, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my other dog came in and stopped me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, like it's time, that's enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so, but that was really beautiful and that really kind of catapulted things for me with light language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, wow, okay, that was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that sort of opened the channel for me a bit more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had, I also had a friend who we,
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[SPEAKER_01]: practice sort of doing it, you know, with her, like with someone else because I was speaking it around my home, but I felt very awkward to speak it with someone else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she also spoke another friend spoke light language and so at the end of our calls, we would always end with a little light language exchange and that started to help me to feel more natural about doing it, you know, with someone else too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was really how light language started for me and it was my own coach that said you need to start recording it and at first I didn't want to get my face on camera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, you know, doing the background with music and a visual So it took me a little time to get the courage to get my face on camera But as I was doing that as I was starting to put my face on camera do light language my coach said to me You need to also channel you need to you know you need to get your channeling out there too
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, who I was like, wow, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it took a lot of, you know, putting my brave, and now you still at the pharmaceutical company at this point?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, actually that, so that's, yeah, we can backtrack to that, but this was all fairly, this was all like last year that I really got my face on camera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that I've been doing it, I've been doing it myself, you know, in the privacy of my own home home and with friends, but I hadn't been putting my face on camera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was really end of last year that I really decided to put my face on camera and do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now that's the part that drew me when I saw you on camera,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at the stage where I'm just putting my voice and not my face so I don't really get that face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when I saw you, your authenticity with it and your level of comfort with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is really comes through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, so whatever process you've been in to get that settling, it's very, yeah, it comes through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's received in a way that you're embodying it in a way that just looks natural.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, oh, we're talking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and you know, just I want to just say too that I attribute that, you know, number one to really taking the time to open my channel, I really have really we didn't haven't spoken a lot of I haven't spoken a lot about this, but I've really
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[SPEAKER_01]: and that was something you know that took all the healing in my journey and the ego mind was so active that like I said when I first started light language the ego would get in the way I could tell when the energy was flowing and I could tell when the ego was getting in the way or questioning oh you've said that just you know three times now like is that you know like it was it starts to question things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I really had to learn how to move that out of the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that took time, that took time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it took time, and I also had to get comfortable with things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to say, I've been like, I said, I've been channeling for years, I've been doing light language for several years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the fact that I had the time to get comfortable with that, right, to feel comfortable in it, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to have it really resonating with me and know how to manage the mind and know when I'm in the flow and I'm not in the flow because there's a profound difference there and to really start to recognize that because I have to deliver something to an audience I wanna be clear, I wanna be clear, I don't want you to, I don't want that to get in the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really glad that I went through kind of the journey that I did and took the time with it that I did and didn't get on camera right away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So allowing space and time for all the pieces that the insecurities that doing it in certain ways, one step at a time, one toe at a time,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all part of the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you've got this beautiful light language flowing through you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have, well, just kind of skip ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not in pharmaceuticals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're, and you're opening to just being a channel in, in general, as your main, main service, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like an educator, like me, you're educating on the new paradigms and whatnot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so is a channel, let's talk about what that means to just be a channel and what comes through, because you're a, you're linguist, right, for higher-dimensional sources.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think the most beautiful thing
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, we're all telepathic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all connected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that when we can get, like I said, we can get the ego mind out of the way and get and we can connect to anything really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can connect to anyone and anything as long as they're clear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, the reason that channeling in some ways, I feel like the reason channelings coming first, ahead of like telepathy
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[SPEAKER_01]: is the fact that these beings that we're channeling for the most part are so clear, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if we can get the mind out of the way, we can allow them to come through very easily.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's much easier for them to come through trust than another human who's got still managing the eagle mind, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel that the reason that a lot of people are channeling now and are opening to that is because if you can get that Eagle Mind out of the way and allow that through, it's actually fairly easy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I always say to all my clients, you can do this just as much as I can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a matter of clearing the channel and really opening the channel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is really about managing that Eagle Mind coming back to the heart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and really being able to be present, present with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the presence really is about the mind, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's really about making sure the mind isn't isn't taking it somewhere else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And being, well, if I can't interrupt, being, being okay with what it is it's going to come through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're, if your mind is like, I don't really want to talk to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or I don't really want this to come through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that will block it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: if that, if there's no fear about the field itself, we'll feel, yeah, I'd say, I think fear will block it, or fear will fear will bring in a different energy completely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I also feel really strongly polo that what comes through is in alignment for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's, you know, and my audience obviously resonates with me and, you know, my energy and what I'm bringing, you know, just what I'm speaking about what I'm bringing through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I always feel like, you know, there are guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of the time it's our guys were coming with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mind you, I feel like we can connect with many different beings, but they're all usually closely connected to you, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're close to connected to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the messages that I get are always in alignment with what I'm getting in my day-to-day life, you know, that's what I find.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sometimes I know that channelers can get some things that are kind of out there or profound, but usually I feel like it's still something they're very connected with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's normal, that you're not gonna get anything out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think some people have had, I've talked to people that are scared, like, oh, a dark entity will come through and it's like, no, no, no, it's your energy, it's your energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're clearing your old, putting your channel, holding space, it's, everything is a match to us, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything is a mirror, so it's where you're at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I always say just trust, just trust, like you know, you know your energy and you know your life lessons and what's going on and you're going to get beautiful messages about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And actually, probably when I look back to when I was journaling and getting those messages years ago, they were these beautiful messages about, you know, like supporting the helping me through like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of even dark times, like you are such a bright light and this kind of beautiful, you know, you are so loved, this kind of beautiful stuff to just really support me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was guy, you know, it was my guide speaking through me trying to support me in beautiful ways, even when I wasn't clear enough to get their messages otherwise or even, you know, be calm enough to connect with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I definitely can relate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a settling at the beginning that the guides are doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And most of it feels like what are,
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[SPEAKER_00]: part of our supporting people at this time is that support of turning inward to get your own answers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we can think of channeling as channeling ourselves to get the own
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's I love that you're saying that too because I even, you know, even when I will channel, sometimes I'll just channel a sitting channel for myself and oftentimes I'll still do it in a notebook and it's always my higher self or straight to source straight to source.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know because why not like we can we can channel that too and that's what we all are you know we're all source energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to just go direct and get my answers get my clarity because I think you're right like there sometimes there's a misperception that guides our the end all beetle or going to you know
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, extraterrestrials and, you know, from other other star systems to for our answers, but, you know, I even had a session the other day with someone that they were saying, well, this channel, or, you know, these ET being said this as if it was true, then I was like, no, we have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we all was off to gut check it, check it with our heart and check it with our own intuition because we are source as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we, you know, it's going back to that internal source and it's always trusting ourselves and that's so key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think to remember that to even with channeling and I know even like we hear us says this that his guides will tell him things and I'm the same and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll check in with myself and sometimes it's a no, it's, you know, there's guiding me in this direction, but I don't feel that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel that and I'll check it and double check it, but yeah, I think it's really important to also always navigate your own way and with everything that just in the world, but you know, what's happening in your own personal life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just to be aware and feel into everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, I do it right down to, should I go to the grocery store right now and feel, I literally feel into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I, is it now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, and maybe I'll get distracted and it's like, oh, no, I'm not supposed to go now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'll check and learn our later, is it now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, it's now, I feel it, it's now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I, I check in with everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're reminding me a lot of myself with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can be from, from, you know, different decisions I'm making on my business of what time to host a class, what day it's on, it's, it's an inward, what, what I try to share with people about this you may agree is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, back to the sense that we're not alone, we're never alone, we've never been alone and that when we cultivate that kind of relationship with our guides or inner guidance or team, there's a sense of we can we're always in company, we're always in relationship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I think that's the most beautiful thing about learning to channel and learning to connect that way or however people connect with their guides because there's lots of different ways that people connect with their guides but that knowing that we're not alone and you know that we're always guided and we're so loved and it's so beautiful and you know it's and I think the cool thing is
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[SPEAKER_01]: as if they can be really funny too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have personalities and to start to recognize the personalities is always fun because I think it's really kind of cheeky guidance sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, one of my funniest ones was I was trying to text my that one time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My dog was having GI issues and I was texting him and I said,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Could you prescribe the, you know, this medication that he took for it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, because I certainly don't want to be up all night with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm trying to hit send and it won't send and it won't send and it won't send and I go, okay, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I sit there for a second and I go, oh, okay, I'm creating a bad outcome by saying I don't want to be up all night with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I deleted that line, hit send and I go, oh, you guys are so funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, yes, it's just it's knowing that it's guidance and knowing where it's coming from and knowing I love it even the sense of love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, teach me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is so fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when you realize you're not alone like you're being shown things all the time and subtle ways
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[SPEAKER_00]: My funniest one is, um, I don't remember the dilemma, but the answer came.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got into the car and they play song because it's how, because I have a lot of, a lot of guides that you songs for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they just put on the song with the words to explain what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love when that happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get that a lot too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And oftentimes when I actually turn on music, I will say right away,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, my herself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, he said like that or source, you're the DJ.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and just see what comes through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually do it almost every time I turn on music because I'm like, show me what I need to know right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just show me what I need to know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the funniest thing is when I turn when I do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know I'm in my mind and don't worry, don't worry, be happy or some goofy little don't worries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it comes out and I'm like, okay, I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in my head, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it, got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not even.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I have seen you on Instagram sometimes and you'll have this little smirk before you say something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know it's something cute being revealed and then you're, it's very cute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, and it's so, I mean, like I said, it's so fun because I mean, I, I, I was, you know, I'm kind of goofy and have a good sense of humor, but, um, and so isn't my, my own coach, she, she and I laugh a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but it's so fun that my own guides are just as fun and goofy and sometimes, I mean, some of the things I've channeled like mid-sentence, you know, they'll just say the funniest thing, and it's hard to not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I usually do laugh, but they'll just, they'll put these little cheeky comments in that, yeah, it's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so fun, and I think also we have to remember
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think for so many years I got spirituality was so serious, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was so serious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to realize that, you know, I think they bring me back to being the joy, laugh, like how fun play, like that's really, really important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's really holding a different energy that's really important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for us too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I love that they do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this feels like a good place to start to talk about then what are some of the things, one thing or two things that you wish you new along the awakening journey that you we can impart to the listeners if anybody is in the
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[SPEAKER_01]: profound but so simple is that everything that you think is happening to you is actually happening for you and it's all a reflection right it's all a reflection and if you can come back to yourself if you can really come back to yourself with everything that occurs you know like like we just talked about like you know the text message to go oh okay so I need to be more aware of what I'm saying I need to be more aware because I am a powerful creator
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just in the day to day, I mean, I had a conversation with a neighbor a couple days ago and I came home and I went, okay, yeah, I see some of that some of that I got a little bit into ego.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the ego take over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a beautiful sort of moment of reflection of, oh yeah, I see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But how life shows us, gives us opportunity, every moment is a learning opportunity, every moment is showing us a sign, everything, but it's all, you know, people get into this, oh, they did was to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, yeah, they didn't do it to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a beautiful teaching moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think when we really can can take the observer perspective and step back from that and start to take every moment and learn from it where can I grow from this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or where is this a reflection of where I'm at?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe where I don't love myself deeper or not trust myself or whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Life is just a beautiful reflection and we learn that in some really challenging ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we haven't even talked about it, but when I left the corporate world, I mean, I went deep into lack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, deep into sort of this old poverty mentality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And wow, did life become a reflection of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was this having to realize the subtle difference between when I was in lack mentality and when I actually appreciated and felt the abundance of what I had and things would shift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was this wow, this powerful teaching of
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I mean, I took a deep, I was up the food pantry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember going to the food pantry and in lack mentality, and they didn't have anything I needed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I went in abundance, mindset, if I went with things in mind that I even needed and wanted and was excited and, you know, and felt like, yeah, I'm going to be able to get things I need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They would have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone at the food pantry would be delightfully sweet to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just learned how it was a reflection and I learned how to start to shift that and shift things in my life and really
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, make change is accordingly that way that my energy was, you know, everything, everything was a reflection of that and my beliefs and what I was putting out and it's not and I want to say too with that Paula that it's not about us being false positive and, you know, not allowing the feelings because I had to also work through all the fear, you know, I had to work through those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: deep fears, or in that time around the lack mentality and about survival, because survival is so ingrained in us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I worked through those fears and let them surface and just felt them and let them move through without getting caught up in them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then could see, you know, and have gratitude for what I had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was starting to shift it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was starting to shift it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that would clear more and more with each episode that I had a fear coming out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and it's just, but it's so profound when we realize, wow, once I've cleared all this stuff out, that was reflecting sort of this life that I didn't really want,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, with the beliefs that I had and the fears that I had and the survival mode that I was in, once I let those fears arise and move through it and just trust me instincts, trust my intuition, and follow, you know, my guidance in every moment and also shift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: very consciously shift my perspective on things, everything shifts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So being able to understand how your perspective influences what happens on the outside is an important piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so a practical application of that can be simply paying more attention to your thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean just and it and it's, you know, when I first started paying almost hyperattention to my thoughts, it feels a little like you're going crazy,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you realize that I always say the human is almost as it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a separate being and has this limited perspective on things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And once you can pull back and see that and it's chattering away and maybe reactive, you know, the body is reacting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's causing reactions, it's chattering, it's judging, it's fearing, it's telling old stories,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's this moment of, wow, I am going crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is going on?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do I control this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it just takes awareness and it takes time to really learn to shift that and to see it with awareness and compassion and have compassion for that human and that their perspective and this very fear-based world that we've been in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just that awareness and the more that you can shift that with awareness and, you know, and just observe, just observe all the time and see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, I had a conversation with the neighbor the other day and I went home and went, you know, I wasn't totally observing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with awareness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I came home and I went, okay, now, you know, in retrospect here, I am observing some of the things that happened in that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I see a little bit where I got in my ego mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see where the ego kind of took it a few times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And not beating myself up above it, but just awareness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, I see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I see that from an observer
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[SPEAKER_01]: so I know where I need to be more aware in the future, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to guess and this might be our point B that we add is sometimes when we're connecting with those that are, when we're in that place of only seeing from a limited perspective, there's a drawing in into that conversation at that level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, to be aware of the different frequencies of the conversation and how you may be invited to go, not that down is worse, but you know, take a left hand turn into a frequency versus a right hand turn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and yeah, that right hand turn is always going to be the one that has perspective, compassion, openness, curiosity, and that is really what, that's the difference between the two worlds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and a beautiful word came up around that the other day, virtue, like virtue, you know, are being virtuous, like just having that, you know, that energy and just
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the other thing, Paula, I wanted to say too that popped up for me even today in a moment was the awareness of because I happen to be listening to an episode of the telepathy tapes last night and, you know, just this awareness, because
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no better reason to learn to manage the mind than that, because none of us would want to have the mind coming up with a judgmental thought, or even telling a story about someone that's not true, or because the mind tends to generate stories out of fear, or self-protention, or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's about that awareness,
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[SPEAKER_01]: harm anyone accidentally, you know, like not inadvertently, you know, without intention and just to learn to manage that mind with the awareness that everyone's there are many out there that are already telepathic, but there are everyone's becoming more telepathic and there's no better reason than that to learn to manage your mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel that that particular show is bringing a very, not that it's bringing in the science, but it's inviting science to become part of the conversation with the phenomenology of our expanded senses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I want to make sure we name that if any of the listeners have it listened to the telepathy tapes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When it's, I think that's that one's a perfect show for those who are sort of non-believers, are who are challenged with the concept and struggling with it because you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a lot of science there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They talked a lot of scientists and a lot about the, they speak very much to the non-believers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They really do on that show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but it's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's also beautiful because this world is really opening to it in beautiful ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it excites me that that podcast was at the top of the list, at least for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's exciting because it's like, wow, people are really waking up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really cool and exploring these avenues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time definitely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, OK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything you would else you would mention for the audience before we close of any other thing that you've used that might support them in their awakening that we haven't mentioned yet?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I spend a lot of time alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really have learned and mind you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've learned too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know that we can all get caught up in our scrolling social media
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[SPEAKER_01]: keeping ourselves busy, and I have taken time away from those things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually not think people have to do this, but got rid of my TV, got rid of some of the distractions in my life, just to start to really be more present, and to really also manage the energy coming into my space and in my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've learned in my, you know, and I say alone, but like in my time to myself,
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[SPEAKER_01]: what feels good, what feels right, and how to recognize that too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, you know, sometimes I'm scrolling social media and it's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting great messages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, encountering new people that I feel great to me and, you know, I connect to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And other times, it's, wow, something's not right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Something's really off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's been in this, I don't think we can really learn to recognize some of these things without some alone time, without some time to ourselves, to really hone that ability to tap in and recognize.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think it's, I really attribute my time to myself, whether it's going for a walk or sitting outside with my dog for a bit or even scrolling social media.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to recognize, oh, that doesn't feel good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, that feels right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or noticing those things that pop in because sometimes sitting with my dog in the patio, like the other day I got a past life that I'd never seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a clip, just a bit, just a quick download in a moment and it was like, oh, wow, and it gave me so much clarity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, unless we take that quiet time to ourselves,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to be able to tap in as well to understand ourselves or even get the guidance we need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And truly, I can navigate now in social situations and everything, but I think it took me time to really be alone and to really recognize things on a deeper level, to be by myself and have the time to go, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, what was that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was interesting, or wow, or I can feel that, that makes me feel agitated, or that feels really good to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think when we're constantly distracted, you know, we can't get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's really about taking the quiet time to ourselves in whatever capacity that is to learn,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like a time of educating ourselves, you know, the human body is so amazing and what we're capable of and what we're connected to is so amazing that we have to take the time to reconnect to that and, you know, shut up the distractions and just like I said, it can be walking, sitting with the dog, walking the dog,
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[SPEAKER_01]: meditating whatever feels right to people, you know, taking even laying down for a nap, sometimes when I'm in that in between state, wow, I get so much clarity and so many downloads.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's really just taking, intentionally taking that time to yourself if you have a really busy life, because if you don't,
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's that connection just is not going to be easy for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that feels like a very nice segue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've given them some things to talk about, listen, or some things to think about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to end with a little brief synopsis on what you offer, your website where people can find you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we know you're an Instagram and you can experience Jen live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in short, excerpt there as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So please, yeah, let's share where people can find you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they can find me on my website, which is Jen Tammy J. E. N. T. A. M. M. Y. dot com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of my offerings are there and you can link to everything I have there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do offer one-on-one sessions where I literally hold space and bring through it's very energetic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I bring through intuitive messages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I bring through channeled messages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I even tap into some of my old skillset and pull in some Oracle cards and things like that sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the sessions, oh, I'm coaching skills too a little bit, but I really feel that's very intuitive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it taps into a number of different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And every session is very different and just beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I've even brought in messages from loved ones who've passed over and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's, it's really fun because it's sort of like, whatever is needed for that person comes through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just a beautiful fun and profound experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my favorite thing that I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also have a Patreon page, which you can also find via my website, but find the link where I'm offering extended light language activations where I'm offering extended channeled messages and I'm offering live Q&A discussions which is really fun because just like you and I are doing we get to talk to my audience and see what questions they have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and really kind of work through things and they're on their awakening journey, and I also offer workshops on their, which, you know, a really fun, last, last one I did was on the Eagle Mind and managed in the Eagle Mind and the the different personalities of the Eagle Mind, which was really fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, those are my two biggest offerings right now and you can also find me on YouTube and Instagram on Facebook, those are my three social medias.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really active on and and also sign up for my email on my website, but yeah, otherwise I'm also working on on a book and some other things in the background.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure when those will come out, but we'll, that will come soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did not get on my nose yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll bring you back on, I'll bring you back on when we won't come out.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have loved this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've loved it's, you know, practical, down to earth and authentic, and that's really what we need right now, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just who's out there getting the job done?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with the least amount of blame, you know, that's, yeah, it's a very, it's a humbling and beautiful journey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure, but it is, you know, it's, you know, it's, we're shifting in beautiful ways and things are going to change in beautiful ways going forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: yeah yeah well i'm thrilled that people have gotten to meet you i hope they reach out and i would love to bring you back again so until then love them all a thank you it's been beautiful it's been so fun getting to know you two your delight is so much great thank you for being a part of the transformative hermonics podcast
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can visit Transformant of Ramonix at poliscatelony.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To find out more about my work, forthcoming classes, and the transformative harmonics academy, you can also reach out and connect with me on Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My handle is at Paula Scateloni.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I write regularly on Substack at Signature Frequency Living.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Until next time, take good care and thank you for being part of the journey.