BONUS SEGMENT WITH UAP TASK FORCE MEMBER LENVAL LOGAN

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All right, we are here for the members only segment.
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We do this with our in studio guests as a
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thank you to our members. We want to always try
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to do this bonus segment if we can in person
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as a benefit to those who pay, and you know,
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help us literally keep the lights on, keep Gene in
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the lifestyle he's used to. He's actually a huge diva.
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A lot of people don't know this exclusive huge diva,
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super diva. We have to buy a new chair irradiant
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AC system that he needs and a lift, a power
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lift for the stairs when he ultimately well won't get
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into that logan. You are a guest this week and
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it was amazing, such an amazing talk. This is where
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we kind of get to do a little rapid fire
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and I hope you don't mind. First off, you requested
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an analysis on the Siria video and this is you know,
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something that you know most people would at least know.
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Can you walk me through why that one crossed your
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desk and what made you flag it for this kind
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of review.
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So when anything comes to anybody can jump on whichever
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project they want to that you know, you may have
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like five things come through a day and you may
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go through each one preliminary for like, take like five
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minutes on each one and then go back to the
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ones that you know, you go no, no, oh, yes
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and whatever. But after you pick one, now it's all
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of a sudden, what are you looking for? So what
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you do is you sit there and say, dude, I'm
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not a video analyst, could you exploit this video? So
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what they'll do is they'll say change the contrast and
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the brightness and all these different things, different modes so
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that you can tramp pull out something unique about the
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target that you're looking at. So in this case, I
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was looking for anything to give me some indication it
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was a balloon because they were just moving nice and steady.
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But that's kind of like a balloon. But is there
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anything because never seen a balloon shape like that? All right,
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obviously in a weird place for something to be that large,
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And it's just you know, because I was thinking, what
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if this was a balloon that floated off from a
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bazaar or something like that, What could this What would
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this balloon really look like? You know? What was what
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was it? Originally? Was it the shape of a batman
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or some weird thing? And it got deflated or whatever.
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And the more we tried to attack it, the more
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we kept coming back with nothing. So we said, okay,
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it's maintaining. There was no violent movements with it or
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anything like that. You know, usually when you see balloons
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clump together, one of them is moving a little differently
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from the other because there's not enough air or gats
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in it and whatever. This thing just kept going. So
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I said, somebody fully exploit that video. Let's take a
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look at it. Let's see what we can find. And
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there was no dramatic Mama, well ah, I found you,
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but there was enough there to compel us to say,
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this goes in the yes bin until we can determine more.
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And we can. And once it's in the yes bin,
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what we can do is we can sit there and
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compare it to other things. Whereas we put it in
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the no bin, it's piece we consider trash.
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So it just goes right. Okay, his name is Frank, but.
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So actually Veto had a question and speaking of why you, well,
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why don't you come up and present yourself? And that's
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what this is for. Here here take this one. So
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he wants to show you a couple of videos. I'll
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put them on screen right now.
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Mm hmm.
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These are also jellyfish type.
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UFOs, jellyfish, octopus, whatever you want to call them. Yeah,
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that's the electric pink if you wouldn't mind send me
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that later. Yes, it's like.
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Two different angles of the same weird looking.
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This is over New York City. There was New York City.
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So what's your question?
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He just wanted to show you the.
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Numerous jellyfish videos.
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Okay, most of the ones look like either the one
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that Jeremy Corbels saw or it looked like something that
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was in the wall. Now on the unclassified side, I've
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seen that several times, and I wanted to confirm. What
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I wanted was one that was the way I did things.
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This is gonna sound weird.
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Hold on mic in.
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Yeah, the way I did things, and this is gonna
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sound a little weird. Is I would first try to
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see if we saw it in the classified system, and
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then I would look for anything similar on the unclassified system,
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because that would also give us a reason to be
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able to talk about it in the open and get
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more impus because we don't talk about the classified one.
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We just talked about the unclassified one, and everybody tells
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me what they saw. But then what we started doing.
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We said, okay, we've seen some unique things in the
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class in the unclassed world, do we have anything like
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that inside our own system that fits that profile? And
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so we'd go back and forth between the two and
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try to see which one would really step up and
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be the unique one, and that seemed to be the
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best way to go.
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Was COR's video.
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The one in the water was there were several that
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were in the water. One looked like it was this
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weird frothing circle that was moving and it was maybe
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about ten feet across, and then there was another one
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that it was maybe more like in the area of
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like forty feet, but there was something in the middle
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as well, moving and we weren't quite sure what it was,
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but someone kept saying, this is a jelly fish, this
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is a jelly fish. This is a bunch of jellyfishes.
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So we went along with that. But when the one
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that you just showed me were it's more like an
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octopus in the sky and stuff like that, we were
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looking for those, and if I recall, we didn't see any.
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So we were trying to figure out if those were real,
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if there was were fake or whatever. But what I
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can do is I can put that into my drop,
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and what my drop does will tell me if there's
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any AI involved in that video at all.
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Okay, that.
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Was like maybe thirty forty feet length.
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Length wise length wise forty feet.
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I think it's been a while, so I don't remember
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the exact number. I'd have to, yeah, because it was
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just hanging in like, you know, and that's what I'm thinking.
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I need to go back and take a.
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Look, because a lot of people thought it was like
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if it was something like was it someone in like
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one of those you know, new jet pack things. No,
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forty feet is way too big.
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We look, we looked at those things trying to figure
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out if jet packs would act differently, they would sound
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differently and everything. The thing that actually saw that, the
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one that Jeremy Corbell, I think, was like a dirigible
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with sensors on it. So he's got acoustic sensors as well,
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so we could hear gunshots and all that other stuff.
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So if there was if that had a jet pack
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hit it, they would have picked that up right off
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the bat.
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Okay, yeah, right right, who so the four K for
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the jet you talk about who in government? Or Military
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Industrial Complex or whatever has the authority to release that footage,
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and what is stopping them it would.
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Be the president and the president probably because he hasn't
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seen it now that Jeremy Corbella has released it.
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The idea was, yeah, but that's not the HD stuff, No.
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But the fact that some of the stuff is well,
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the tranches will will some of the stuff that we've
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seen come out in the tranches that are coming out,
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and I don't think any of them will see the
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light of day.
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Hmm. So you don't think any of the stuff that
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you've seen in four K or even just.
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Everything that I've seen come out in whatever version of
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it you may think of, it seems that it could be.
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It's ambiguous the best, all right, there is nothing there.
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There is nothing going to come out from government. And
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I will say that with the utmost authority that I
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have in my base on what I think. There's nothing
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that's going to come out of the government that's going
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to be a smoking gun, because because you take away
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all doubt at that point, Okay, you need you need
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the doubt.
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You know, you need that little bit of yes, like yeah, because.
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As long as you have the doubt you can put
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the toothpaste back in the two.
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Yeah, yes, yes, right, just like there's no money in
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the cure for cancer, but for the disease, there's a.
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They signed the oath and everything. It's that there there
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is more money in having it is better, more profitable
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for them to have you keep coming back and asking
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for for more help instead.
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Of just well then then what do you think of
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these guys like how put off.
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Who or go?
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You know?
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And and you know I'm not trying to come at
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at you, of course you know this. I mean this
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was total respect because I know you talk to these guys,
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but like how and Eric Davis or doctor Davis, I
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give him respect. When they're seemingly always where the money
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is right, whether it's you know, NIDS and Big Low
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or any task force that they you know, any government project,
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it seems that they're double dipping to a degree, and
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a lot of these guys are double dip.
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Seems a double dipping the way I say it is you.
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Don't think that working for the government on one hand
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and then being a face of disclosure is double dipping.
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No, No, here here's why. Okay, The reason why we
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know what we know is because when we were working
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for the government, we had access. Okay, it's not about
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the money, because the government pays peanuts, you know, compared
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to really what's going on out there. But now all
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of a sudden you're at the point where you're asking
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them do you support disclosure? They're all for it, all right,
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but they're trying to just like Loud, they're also trying
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to stay within their NBA right. They're not trying to
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bake their vale because once you break your valt, you're done,
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your persona non grata. You know. Look at Dylan and others,
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you know, they'll tell you their lives have been ruined
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by all this because they came out and said what
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they were going to say. You know, I had a
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lawyer come to me and said, hey, Logan, we need
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you to testify. I was like, about what there's like
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about what you did in the test force. Hell no,
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I said, that's all classified. They're like, well, you should
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come because it's about the people and everything. I was like, well,
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then you stand up there and you tell them what
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you know. He goes, I don't know anything. I was like,
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must suck to be you, then, you know, because they
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want me to stay up there even now. Think about it.
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When all Dylan, all those guys stood up in front
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of Congress, right, Congress accused him of saying, so you
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haven't seen any of this firsthand? Right, And they all said, well,
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Dylan did, all right. But when they talk about the
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Legacy program, like David Grash and whatever, and they said, well,
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did you see the spacecraft in the hangar where it's
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controlled by us and whatever? And he's like, well, I
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could talk about it in the skiff and blah blah
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blah blah blah blah blah. All right, And the answer is,
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for the most part, the thing is that they're asking for,
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the answer is no, right, right. But then Congress turns
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back around, and what did they tell you? They're on
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the news telling you, well, you know, we saw this thing,
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and I could go right back to him. Did you
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see it firsthand? They would tell you no. Right. And
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as for the double dipping, the thing is, you know
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these guys are they've got expensive taste. No, I'm kidding them.
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The idea is they got to find a way to live.
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So people come to them and ask them, hey, will
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you be willing to support this? Do this?
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Do this?
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Yeah, but just don't go beyond your NDA. But it
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is good to have a person that has been in
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the government looked at all the stuff that's there, and
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now he's able to tell the difference between what's real
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and the bullshit that comes across on the unclassified world.
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So I don't look at it as double dipping. I
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just look at that.
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As surviving or bridging the gap maybe, yeah, right between
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the classified world what's unclassified, and then you with civilians.
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Think of it this way. You, for the on the
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classified world, you have a very fine out amount of
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information coming in that is more than likely very very
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accurate because the chain of custody, the providence, all that
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other stuff. Right. But then on the civilian side, when
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you're dealing with all the commercial entities, you don't have
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that chain of custody, that providence ever. All right, Yeah,
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but you got a lot of information that's coming towards you.
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So you get to see both sides of it and
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then help one side. You could be helping the government
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by saying, hey, this thing was also seen on the
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civilian side. And now and you know, because one of
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the really interesting things that I came up with, all right,
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is I kept asking why aren't we looking at some
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of the things on the civilian side, and someone said, well,
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we got the best data. Whatever. I said, No, listen
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to me, if you see it on the classified side.
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Let's say the octopus study just showed me, if we
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see it on the classified side, right, and we've only
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got a minute, and we see that thing on the
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on the classified side, But a civilian now has fifteen
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minutes of coverage of the exact same thing. Now it's
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showing me things that I did not know about from
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the classified video. Wow, okay, and that opens up a
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whole new area for us because now I don't have
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to go to that pilot and go, hey, sir, if
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you engage this. We only saw it for minutes to
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just watch out for this. But if I got it
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for fifteen minutes, and now I see it does something, sir,
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you might want to be careful because we've noticed that
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if you do this, it'll do this. If you do this,
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it'll do that. So both sides feed each other. So
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I don't see it as double dipping or anything like that.
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I can't. You know, that's a compelling points. It really
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is a compelling point. And again I think to some
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degree we do need that bridge right from inside like
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people that are inside. It's just I start to get
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worried that, like I mean, because I don't know how
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much you're paying attention to this. But right now there's
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been like this fracture in the community and it's you know,
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Alisondo's taken a lot of heat right now, you know,
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and you know uap gurb and.
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Some of it is some of it, I have to say,
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is deliberate. They are trying to build fractures, okay, because
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when we're building fractures, we're not looking at the problem
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of course. All right, So I don't know you ap
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Ger have never met the man, don't really care too whatever.
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I know Ross. I like Ross. I trust Ross. But
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Ross is a reporter and he's got certain things that
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he needs to do, especially for his producers and whatever.
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Not that Ross is doing anything underhanded or anything, although
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everything needs to be you know, triple checked and whatever.
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Now it would be useful. It's like when Lou's book
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first came out Eminent a right, everybody was coming to me, Hey, hey,
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there's something going on between Lew and j. There's something
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going on between Lew and J. And I'm like, what, what,
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what's going on? Talk to someone talked to me. So
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finally I was like, I went to lou and I
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went to Jail. I was like, what's going on? He said,
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we have a different opinion on something. That's it. All
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we have is a I said, so, why are these
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people making it out like the end of the world.
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And I said, guys, it looks like there's a like
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there's a breaking the matrix. We've got to find a
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way again. He said, Logan, it's just two old guys
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with egos, nothing to worry about it. It wasn't a
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big deal to either one of them, right, But the
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world was making it out like he was the end
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of the world. And I was like, okay, let's move on. People.
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Well, that's a huge problem in this community. It is
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the craving for headlines.
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Every day, the noise that I told you about.
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Right, the noise of the everyday minutia, right when there's
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not some break. We're lucky enough where this stuff's in
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the news like a little bit more, a lot a
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bit more. I mean, Fox News are starting to remind
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me of Coast to Coast.
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Yes, but.
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So we are lucky in that regard. But also i'd
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argue again like you had said, presidents are talking about
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this shit, like, I think we're past the point of
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like confirmation. There's your disclosure, right, So we got the disclosure.
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What we don't have because they left it out as
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they said, there's something flying around in the skuys, but
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we don't know what they are. That's the part that
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has not given us confirmation. They could say we know
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what they are, they're friendly their foe. There, you know what?
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All right, I get right, they're leaving it ambi ambiguous
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at best.
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And it's better. It's better that way, kind of like
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what Gene was saying.
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Right.
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So, but for people like us who have seen things.
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Yes, we don't need we don't need that.
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We don't need Trump. So I think that's and and
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there's a lot of people in this community that operate
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off of blind faith in the stories, and I actually
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have That's why I feel like, you know, people that
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haven't had a sighting, they're always like a little bit
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like shy of saying it right, and it's like no, no, no, no,
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I actually have more respect for that because you're operating
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in a on a on a real evidence based scenario, right,
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Like you're you've looked at the situation and you've decided
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there something there, and you're operating on that ideas like that,
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you're searching for the truth. I've seen something. It's easy
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for me to believe, yes, right, I know what I saw.
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Yes, But the human being is very complex because here's
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what I will tell you, there are more of us
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that have had something extraordinary happen to them than there
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are people that have not had any extraordinary I agree,
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but there are so many grifters, even us that have
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had an experience. We don't trust what a lot of
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people are saying because we can't relate, or we look
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at something and we can sit there and go, that's
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bullshit because of these things or that came from this individual,
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and I know that person lies. We're looking for a
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reason to purpoo everybody else's I think it's human nature
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to want to put ourselves up high and attack everybody else.
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But if you just come into this with a little
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bit of grace and a little bit of humility, you
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can look at it and go, Okay, there's more of
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us than there are them. And what we've got to
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do is we've got to help them that haven't had the.
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Experience transition into this new era.
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What would.
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A couple more questions, and we'll wrap up here. What
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would you say to the nineteen ninety version of yourself
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in the active duty who's about to go see who's
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about to get on that plane and see that craft? Well,
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what would you tell him about the moment that he needed?
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I would tell him to docu write down everything that
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he saw, be more prepared for it. I mean, as
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as I started getting older, I started saying, why didn't
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I write that down? And I have a pretty good memory.
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It's not specific to all the definitive parts of it's
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not photographic, but it's a good enough memory that I
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can remember things from way back when and I can
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put context to them and sit there and say, Okay,
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now I got to put some analysis to this. Was
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this the same thing as that? I mean, it's an
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easy jump to go, oh this triangle? Was that triangle?
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But if you'd see it, do something different. Like we've
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all seen the trip or heard about the triangles with
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the three white corners and the red dot in the middle.
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So what happens when you don't see the white the
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red dot of the middle. Is that something else? Or
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is it something.
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It's the same thing, is it utility?
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Or with all the triangles, with all the saucers, we
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were getting them mixed up. Forever, everything was just a
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flying saucer, you know, until all the shapes came. I
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have a really good friend that took a look at it.
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He was he was he wasn't part of the task force,
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but when we were showing him some of the stuff
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because he was gonna help, and he goes, well, how
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about that? He said, it looks like the Aliens don't
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use the same contractors either, you know, to builders base.
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Ironically, that is my last question to you a thing
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about that. So that's very odd that you bring that
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up just spontaneously. God so yeah, so yeah, right, So
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you would tell yourself to write down the details, because again,
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this is nineteen ninety You didn't have a cell phone
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in your pocket to pull out and record this. It
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was a very different time. So you would have tried
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to write down every detail.
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Between my mouthfuls of cheese steak out, I been trying
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to get as much the information down.
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I would probably put the cheese steak down, Yeah, and
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wrote dude.
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Cheese steaks were highly coveted back then.
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But it was still gonna be there.
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It's not going to be there, so why do you
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want to take that chance? But I'd be sitting there
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trying to get as much information, even if I have
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to give my pen to the other, to the guy,
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other guy in the cheese steak can let him put
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his cheeksteak cheese steak down and say, okay, let me
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tell you what I'm seeing.
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I love it.
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But the idea would be I try to tell myself,
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take a deep breath, figure.
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Out what exactly observe? Yeah, start to start the process.
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Yeah, what exact time did you see it? What exact
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time did it end? Which way was it going when
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you last saw it? Which way was it going when
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you first saw it? First saw it? About? What altitude
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were you because I don't know what else I'm assuming
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you know, between thirty and thirty thirty and thirty five
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thousand feet.
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That's where commercial gest.
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Yeah, we're you know, we're coming down over over Europe,
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over England, you know, dropping down in altitude? What are
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we doing? Did when we landed? Could I have gone
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to the pilot's cabin and go, hey, did you see that.
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You didn't do that?
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No, no, I I just sat there and I was like, Oh,
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when I get to my new base, I'm gonna get
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right in on some shit. Yeah, this is gonna be cool.
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You didn't think to ask the pilot.
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Nope, damn load. And then I get to my unit
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and they're looking at me, like, what are you talking about?
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I said, the thing that's out there doing this, you know,
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the weird stuff, and they're like, we don't know what
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you're talking about. Now, in retrospect, I think my weapons
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and Tactics officer knew everything that was going on in
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Belgium because back then that would have been reported through
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NATO channels.
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Okay, oh, something.
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Usual flying around in the airspace around Belgium and whatever.
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Clear the airspace, be careful because I used to work
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in Aby Triple C and we used to, like I
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told you, we used to do quin close air sport. Yeah,
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and from time to time it wasn't always us bringing
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in a tens. It was us clearing a corridor for
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the army to launch artillery to just clear out an area, right,
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and we say, okay, we're gonna be firing for effect.
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From thirteen hundred to thirteen oh five. Everybody cleared this corridor.
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You stay on that side, You stay on that side.
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This thing goes from seventeen thousand feet to twenty three
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thousand feet. Don't fly in this area, and that's it.
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And then we watch all the aircraft just kind of separate, right,
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and then they just start firing, and then they said
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they were done, and then we're like, okay, airspace is
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now open, and everybody would come back. But when you're
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doing all that stuff, you have to coordinate with everybody
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because it's command and control, right, So if there's something
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unusual in your airspace, you're not gonna sit there and
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just go, oh, just keep flying all willy normal and everything.
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You're gonna say, hey, there was something in this airspace
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at this time. We believe it to be this. Can
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anybody confirm denying whatever, Oh it was in Belgian airspace.
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Let's go to the Beljics and see if they can
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give us any additional data containing to that, or if
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it's in Germany or whatever. But the thing was, we
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didn't know, you know, so that would have been like
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a blind call out to everybody. Anybody that saw this
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whatever in the sky, please send in sorry, please send
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in a report and let's see what we got and
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go from there.
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Man, if only that's how it was. But yeah, yeah,
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please hold on. You know, do you mind recording him
483
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so I can put that in. This is producer producer cam.
484
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So first of all, would you agree and if not, why.
485
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When it comes to disclosure that there will not be
486
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anything that comes out that is not in the best
487
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interests of the United States Government and preserving the institutions
488
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of the United States government.
489
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I would agree. I would agree with you one hundred
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and One of the things is, you know, we have
491
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to make sure our government looks good. I mean I
492
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I can tell you all kinds of stuff that would
493
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sit there and you would be like, yeah, I agree,
494
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I agree. But at the end of the day, if
495
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it's something on a national scale, which this would be, right,
496
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we the US, we can't look bad. And one of
497
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.039
the things I thought was really interesting when when the
498
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Task Force first came out and everything, first thing I
499
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.160
thought was, why is everybody looking to the US to
500
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:20.960
be the one that's going to answer everything? You know,
501
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:25.519
what about England? What about Russia? Are they watching us? Going? Hell,
502
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.839
let's see what the US, does you know everybody seems
503
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.119
to have this, Well, America is the one that's got
504
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.000
got got their foot all in this, you know. I
505
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.359
think some of the cartoons one of the Girl, one
506
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of the Pixar movies where the girl's gigantic and they're
507
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talking about an alien came down and the guy, the
508
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.039
fictional newsman goes and the UFO landed in America. We're
509
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:51.599
all UFOs land, you know, And you know there were
510
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:52.319
teasing this, you know.
511
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:55.680
See I don't like that notion though, because clearly talking
512
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to you, that is simply not the case. It's this,
513
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it's it's another there. What it is is it's another
514
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:11.200
misunderstanding of the public. Yes, on the topic of UFOs.
515
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.240
It's a misconception, it is.
516
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.759
But the other side of that coin is those are
517
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the countries they pretty much either they're beholding to the
518
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:21.400
US or they follow what the US.
519
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:25.400
Does, right, you know, their government Stretton.
520
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.519
I think James Fox told me. He says kind of
521
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like again the joke about things always landing in the US.
522
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.839
The other side of it is, whenever there's a story
523
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.079
about a UFO overseas, it always ends with it. There
524
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was an air force C one thirty that took everything
525
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:42.079
and flew away in the distance, you know, and.
526
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You're like, and I won't disagree with that. I think
527
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probably most countries would be like fuck fuck, like fuck,
528
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we don't have the resources for this. Call the US,
529
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call the.
530
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US or the or the US just says, hey, one
531
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of our aircraft with some days just material, just crashing
532
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.480
your breath. We'd like the authority to come in there
533
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.200
and pick it up. Just around the aircraft, don't touch anything.
534
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:07.079
We'll take care of the rest.
535
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And then and then you're in good with the US.
536
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:11.440
You're in good with the US. You just gave them
537
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a UFO. Yes, yeah, you get some usaid. Do you
538
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:17.079
know what I'm saying?
539
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:17.440
Yeah?
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The second question for you as an analyst, putting on.
541
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Your analytical hand, yes, sir.
542
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:26.599
So.
543
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A number of key individuals involved in this issue often
544
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make statements to the effect of the truth around UFOs.
545
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:51.200
The truth around UAP would be so destabilizing to the nation,
546
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:58.720
to economies, but particularly it would be destabilizing to individuals.
547
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:00.680
You mean, like the Epstein and that.
548
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:06.599
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, whatever they're whatever they include.
549
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.000
But you're familiar, you know, I mean, am.
550
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I categorizing it correctly that essentially people can't handle Part
551
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of the reason this needs to be kept secret is
552
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that people can't handle it.
553
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:22.240
And the first question I would come back would say,
554
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how do you know you're handling.
555
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:31.680
It so exactly number And that's point number one that
556
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I say that a lot myself. I'm like, well, I
557
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see these guys, and you know, judging by what I see,
558
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I'll be all right.
559
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But for me, the bigger question is that.
560
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They have this understanding of let's just call it, you know,
561
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this catastrophic, shocking revelation that most people can't handle. But
562
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they're also takking about getting it out into the public.
563
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:05.559
Right.
564
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.559
So it's this is people aren't going to be on
565
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the list, but it needs to be out in the poplink.
566
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.160
But their actions behind the scenes are.
567
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They start investing in and creating their own technology companies.
568
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:27.759
So from an analytical standpoint, what does their response to
569
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:33.599
this idea that the information that they're privy to is
570
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:39.960
so out there and so severe that the public can't
571
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:47.359
handle it. Their responses invest in technology as opposed.
572
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To I don't know.
573
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They starting an NGEO that works with governments and social
574
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organizations to help people overcome all of these things that
575
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they know they're going they allegedly know they're going to.
576
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.839
Be having problems with. They're not investing any time and
577
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effort in that.
578
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.680
So would you, you know, how would you assess that?
579
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:14.640
And how would you personally? I think when they come
580
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up and tell you that it's gonna be catastrophic, I
581
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:19.319
don't think it's gonna be catastrophic. I think that's just
582
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:23.000
about control, because if you scare people, fear seems to
583
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.039
have a very interesting effect on people, especially for the masses.
584
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.200
Individuals are pretty smart. Individuals as a group are pretty stupid,
585
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.079
all right, you put them together. I mean, all you
586
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:38.559
need to do is get a crowd together and say something,
587
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.440
you know, something bad, like bomb or whatever, and there's
588
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.480
no it's illegal, that's right, But there's no thought anymore.
589
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:47.519
That's just a reaction.
590
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:48.240
You know.
591
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.440
You get a you get a drone that goes over
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and sprays the crowd with water cooling trying to cool
593
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.960
them down whatever. But someone's gonna say accident, you know whatever.
594
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.079
It's all about control from that point of view, and
595
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.480
it gives those individuals. In my opinion, I don't know much,
596
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.799
but it gives those individuals a chance to take whatever
597
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.759
technology they want to manipulate it, whatever the way they want,
598
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to make millions from it.
599
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:19.359
All right, last question, I appreciate your patience with boss.
600
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So the last question is there are a number of
601
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journalists who talk about the information that they've received from
602
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:38.039
insiders and their sources, and sometimes that information is very
603
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:44.480
particular that you know, it's statements made by a whistleblower
604
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:51.200
inside of the skiff, that that information was passed on
605
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:55.160
by somebody in the office that conducted that.
606
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.200
Interview, and all the rest of it.
607
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:05.640
My question is, when the journalists are doing that, aren't
608
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they inherently risking that source because and correct me if
609
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:18.960
I'm wrong, it's not like this five thousand people who.
610
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Are in the skiff.
611
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:26.079
That that is, the people who have access to that
612
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:30.679
information that they are conveying may not be more than
613
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:33.360
five to seven individuals.
614
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:34.800
Never mind, it.
615
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.239
Might not have been more than three or four that
616
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were actually in the skiff at the time those things
617
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were set.
618
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.719
So it seems to me at least that from.
619
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A counterintelligence perspective, these journalists are putting these sources at
620
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:56.760
risk and based on the offices that they're talking about.
621
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.320
You'd think those people would be smarter.
622
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.920
Yes, then that yes, So.
623
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:08.760
How is the public then supposed to discern is the journalists.
624
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:15.280
Speaking of their ass versus actually has an insider who
625
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.440
is in the room asking these questions.
626
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:24.519
Okay, so here's what I would tell you. The journalists
627
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don't the journalists. They say what they're gonna say, because
628
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:29.880
it's about the trust in the bond that they've earned
629
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:33.039
with their audience, and their audience either believes them or not.
630
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.960
But when you're talking about what's going on behind some
631
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:42.199
of the closed doors and things like that, they have
632
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:46.159
to be very particular in how they mask it and
633
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.679
what they say. I'll give you an interesting example. I
634
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.119
just told you that individuals are smart, crowds are stupid.
635
00:35:53.280 --> 00:36:02.400
All right. Jason Sants when he came out, he came
636
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.639
out because James Fox accidentally left.
637
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.760
His name upon the board on a clapboard.
638
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:11.440
Right, Everybody was looking for who this.
639
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:15.000
Sky was because it's a j Sands, Jay Sands.
640
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.039
But everybody was looking for who this guy was. And
641
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.639
they had pictures of all these guys, all right, and
642
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.880
not one of them came close, all right, not one
643
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:27.599
of them, I think there was like seven eight pictures.
644
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:29.400
They were just looking for anybody in the government named
645
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.920
Jay Sands, and everybody wanted to be the first one.
646
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.519
So now they're all circular reporting and jumping on top
647
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:36.639
of each other, and they didn't know who it was
648
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.280
until Jay Sands came out himself and said I'm Jay Sands.
649
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:41.480
I'm the one that you're looking for, and then everybody
650
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:44.440
was like oh, and then people started attacking him and
651
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.159
going in that direction. Okay, right, So what I would say,
652
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.480
it's all about control, it's all about fear. And when
653
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:58.360
these individuals are coming out to say I heard this
654
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.960
from my sources, all right, what you should be doing
655
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.800
is you should if you hear your favorite reporters saying
656
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.880
his sources, you should be keeping a track record on
657
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:15.199
how well his sources have been right to figure out
658
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:18.800
what's what's gonna happen and make an assumption that this
659
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:23.599
person is right or wrong. But there is no you
660
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.599
can go ahead, yeah.
661
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:30.639
And you know, I mean, I'll pick something randomly. Jerryman
662
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:37.480
Corbet saying that telling Matthew Brown that when you were
663
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:41.360
in the skiff, you said this and that and that
664
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.679
came from that came from my source.
665
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:45.880
In the O d N I.
666
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Right, that's not.
667
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:49.400
A big group of people.
668
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Nope.
669
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And so if I'm the d.
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N I, and maybe maybe I'm just old fashioned, you know,
671
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:59.440
maybe I come well, I came up about a generation
672
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:03.119
after you in the military, so or less than a generation.
673
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.159
You know, our service records overlap.
674
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.639
But if I'm the O d N I and I
675
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.679
hear on a podcast somebody that was in the skiff
676
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:18.880
with Matthew Brown picked up the phone and called Jeremy Corbell,
677
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:21.800
I would assume the O.
678
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.639
D and I pretty has a pretty good idea of
679
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:31.920
who was in that skiff, Yes, and would probably be
680
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.199
obligated to launch it, to.
681
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:42.159
Launch a counterintelligence investigation and see somebody probably go to
682
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:46.960
jail realistically if they took information that was inside a
683
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.440
skiff conveyed it to a reporter.
684
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:56.440
Quick. Just for the record, was Matthew Brown skiff that skiff?
685
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:57.239
It was?
686
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.000
But he's given he's given you an example.
687
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.800
No, no, no, but he had said it was. The
688
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:06.239
story though, the one that came out on the podcast
689
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.800
was you have everything right. You just said Matthew Brown
690
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:10.679
was in the skiff, But it was Borland that was
691
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.760
in the skiff, and then they conveyed that Borland had
692
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.639
given him Project Rubik's Cube.
693
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:19.280
I was talking more about Matthew.
694
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:28.719
Yeah, okay, okay, I see what you're saying.
695
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:34.280
Sorry, but you know, and again not that we would
696
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.239
see somebody getting tired, right, they wanted to have a
697
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.039
public you know, firing of this individual. But it sort
698
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:47.360
of behooves logic that somebody in that kind of position
699
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:49.559
would make such a move.
700
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:54.880
Knowing that those consequences exist. And not only that, but
701
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.519
people would do it over and over again because somebody
702
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.360
like Jeremy constantly says, my sources.
703
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:05.320
In this tells me that right once we're Moorland. He
704
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:06.079
does it once with this.
705
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.880
So that either says, really my analytical read, either you're
706
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.559
full of shit and you're making up that sources tell
707
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:21.920
you something, or that there is.
708
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:26.519
Such incoonfidence in the office of the in the ODN.
709
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I that.
710
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.400
So there's there's all of those things that a skiff's
711
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supposed to do.
712
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:36.119
Doesn't matter because you can.
713
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.679
I think I can help you here. One, there's an
714
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.159
assumption that everything that is said in the skiff is
715
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:47.559
classified and it's not all right. So there's that. Two
716
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:50.280
you got to go. Is the thing that they're particularly
717
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talking about. Is it classified right? And to what level right?
718
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:57.480
Especially if it's you know, you know, grave damage is
719
00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:59.400
really grave? Do you know all the stuff that they
720
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.639
tell you? Now, the other side of the coin is
721
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.760
if I'm an OD and I and Matthew or Dylan
722
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.519
are in an area, the other question is how many
723
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:10.679
people are in that skiff when that thing is set,
724
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.079
because now that would probably set off an investigation that
725
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:17.239
says we've got fifteen people that we need to monitor
726
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.320
to figure out what the hell is going on that
727
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:23.119
may or may not happen, you know, because depending on
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what's going on, we've kind of set up the military
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kind of like James Orwell's nineteen eighty four, where we're
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all watching each other. Okay, we're looking for each other
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to make a mistake in somebody else to get ahead.
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But the question is what is being said, how it's said,
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is it classified, who's got the responsibility? And how many
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people are there? And then the OD and I probably
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just gets a report that says all these people were
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in a room when such and such a X, Y
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and Z, and then they're going to have to make
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a decision on who who's the you know, who's the
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proper ci guy to go investigate this and to what
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level and all those other things. So there could be
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a lot of things that are in play that we
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don't know about.
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But just and just to be argumentative, just from a
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professional a standard of professional by what you're saying is that,
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you know, somebody said, if I'm inside of the skiff
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and somebody in there just thinks on an asshole, that
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it's all right for them to leave the skiff.
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And pick up a phone and call a reporter and say, yeah,
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that jeans thicker is a real asshole.
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Here's what he said.
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Classified.
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It could be on either side. But first of all,
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that should not be going on all right. But depending
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on what was said and where it pertains, and as
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long as they don't believe it will come back on them.
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People some people will talk other people they're you know,
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the people I was around for, I'm pretty sure they
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wouldn't talk.
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All right, Are we are we surprised?
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Yeah?
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Is it surprising to anybody?
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One?
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More text that came in from a gym, and Jim
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wanted to ask, with all of your experience in error,
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with all of the assessments.
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That you've been able to make.
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That you've constantly been into all of this classified information.
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What's your favorite color?
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Favorite color is black? Yeah. Yeah, So I'll leave you
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with this one. I leave you with this one bit
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of information type your mother. Yeah. So there's there's one
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thing I've been trying to get everybody to realize, and
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that is several of us in the community we all
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believe joking here, we all believe there was a deliberate
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attempt around the world to go to schools from the
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late nineteen fifty to the late nineteen nineties.
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Gifted program.
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Some say it's the gifted programs, some say it's not.
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But the idea is I think so, I think there's
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two programs. I think the Gifted program is something internally
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that might have been us trying to figure out who's
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what we're whenning how can you? Yeah, yeah, but I
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think this one.
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You've heard of mon talk, yes, yeah, I know, stranger
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things and all those Yeah yeah, but the other side
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of this was just a deliberate attempt just to show
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up to schools and let themselves be seen.
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And oh, you're talking about the Nhi not even that.
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Oh Okay, I'm sorry.
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There's just been an attempt where these things show up
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at schools so kids see them, they land, they step
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out of the craft, the kids see them, and now
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it's like.
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Oh yeah, like the aerial school, Just.
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Like the aerial school, but in you know, England several times,
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France several times, Switzerland several times, Australia, Africa, different places,
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all these places, there was some type of deliberate attempt
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to reach out to the kids. Now, maybe it could
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have been that while they were in around those kids,
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they could have activated stuff to move them up to
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a higher vibrational level to wait, maybe where the gifted
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program could have said, hey, get that kid. Whatever. But
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the thing is there was a deliberate attempt and we
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don't know what for, but we're the assumption, the guessing
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hypotheses theories is that they wanted themselves to be seen
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so that when they probably come back, this is not
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an ontological shock to those individuals because they're already being prepared,
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they've already seen them, they've already accepted things.
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You know that this you're gonna have like an ambassador.
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Right, it could be one of those kids. We don't know,
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all right, but the fact that there was a deliberate
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attempt and some people are saying it's going to start
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over again. I'm like, okay, how do you know that.
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Don't get any you know, people are guessing whatever. But
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the fact that it was done once definitely means it
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could be done again.
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Well, you know It's weird to me is that, like
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I said, every culture they always have this story of
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beings that either came from the sky or benevolent ones came, yeah,
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came after disaster like quet sequado. Like there's so many difference.
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You know, yes, stories, but you know.
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They always don't know and this is what I'm saying, or.
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They're always saying they're going to return. And clearly documented
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evidence has suggested a ramp up in sightings in interactions
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over the past one hundred ninety years. Right, could we
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argue that either we're able to record more whatever it is,
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there's been more interaction. And what if they were always
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talking about this time when we reached the AI, when
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we reach the nuclear again, they know they're not working
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on linear time like we are, right, so they know
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exactly when they're coming back.
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They're just waiting, Yeah, convergence, So things coming together at
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exactly particular particular time. You know, AI, there's the wars
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going on, all these different things, and maybe you know
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it's pulls itself up and say hey, I'm your savior whatever,
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and yeah, we don't know, we don't. But the idea is,
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we're noticing things now, and the idea is to document
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these things so that we're ready or as ready as
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we can be.
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I agree, and I think you're helping getting the word
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right world ready again. I'll put the link for your
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app in the description below. Thank you for doing this
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rapid section anytime, so I'd love to I'd love to
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follow up when you pull it back in. I'd love
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to follow up when possible, you know, keep continuing to start.
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Getting data in the app. There's gonna I I truly
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believe there's gonna be some compelling data in there. And
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then the idea is to share the word, get the
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word out, and you know, come talk to you and
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say hey, because it could be as simple as hey,
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I've got this video. It's available on my app for
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everybody to see. Please review it and let me know
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if you've seen something like this before, come forward, talk
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to us. Whatever was your experience just you saw it,
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or was there something that happened after, you know, And
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it could be something as simple as that, it could
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be something else, you know, you know that other people
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have experienced. But the idea is we've got to start
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documenting things. And the US is it's probably in a
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bad place because we're such an open society. We get
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to open our kimono, and but the Russians and the
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Chinese don't because there are more of a more controlled society.
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So we have to figure it out as we go.
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Yeah, I agree. Couldn't have said that better myself actually,
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So we will see you soon. Thank you again for
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doing this. Thank you for your service to this country.
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Thank you, Jean, Thank you veto other puppy logan, great
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job you laid around wonderfully today into the studio Ghost.
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We'll catch you next time, Fred, Fred, Yeah, we'll catch
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you next time. I'll stay humble, stay kind, and most
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supportantly stated