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Growth does not occur without change—but not all change leads to growth.
This episode offers fresh ways to name what’s happening, frame the moment, and lead others through uncertainty without oversimplifying the reality of change.
In this second episode of Time Swap, we’re joined by Kat Landa, who has spent more than two decades helping mission-driven organizations navigate growth, transition, and transformation.
Currently serving as Chief Growth Officer at DickersonBakker, Kat brings clear frameworks, memorable imagery, and actionable insights that provide leaders with tools to navigate pivotal change moments.
You can learn more about Kat Landa at https://katlanda.com/
Email any of your questions regarding this episode to team@covewm.com
(00:00-00:46) - Purpose of Time Swap
(00:47-01:28) - Introduction to Kat Landa
(01:29-02:48) - Growth Does Not Happen Without Change
(02:49-06:00) - Framework for Change: The Platform Is On Fire
(06:01-10:23) - Early Adopters and Cynics
(10:24-13:37) - Practiced Review of Examination
(13:38-17:44) - Hold Your Identity Loosely
(17:45-22:33) - Crossroads and Spirals
(22:34-31:34) - Discerning God’s Will
(31:35-36:40) - Rhythms of Receiving
(36:41-38:59) - Closing/Prayer
(42:56-43:56) - Thank You and Disclaimers
