#644 - Bryan Johnson

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Did you ever notice how dating apps feel like you're
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just kind of scrolling through a yard sale of human emotions.
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I know a lot of people, good people who want
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something real, like actual commitment, not just a wyd at
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eleven forty seven pm. That's why I like this app
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called Upward. It's for people where faith actually matters, not
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just yeah I went to church twice in twenty fourteen.
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I'm talking shared values, family, commitment, integrity, the stuff that
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makes a relationship solid. What's cool is you're starting from
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the same foundation. You're not three weeks in wondering oh
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you don't believe in marriage, because that's that's a wild
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Tuesday to have. Upward is built for people who want
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a date with intention, like you're actually trying to build something,
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whether faith is the center of your life or just
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how you were raised. It helps you meet someone who's
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aligned before things get serious. And look, I'm not saying
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I've got it all figured out. You know that I'm
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still out here. But if you're tired of guesswork and
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want something grounded in real, I use this might be
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your move. Download Upward and start dating with intention. Go
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find your person. Today's guest is a longevity expert. He's
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a health advocate. He's basically his own guinea pig. You know,
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he's kind of the doctor Ann Frankenstein in a way.
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He's an entrepreneur. He's been experimenting on himself, trying to
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beat the final chapter the coffin. Yep, he wants to
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live forever. We're gonna learn about it. I'm grateful to
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have a conversation today, which we got to do quickly
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because I think he's got to be in bed at
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like four pm. I'm very happy that he's here. Today's
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guest is mister Brian Johnson.
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Yeah.
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This lemon water, Dude, I drink this a lot. I
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hear that it's good for inflammation. Yeah, and I do
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a lot of fasting, and so that's been something that
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on a fast I will have this.
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Yeah, a certain amount. I like the chunks of ginger. Man,
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that's that's solid. Oh yeah, chew on those? No, yeah,
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you've done that. Uh, it's good. I mean it's is
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that a thing? Chewing on ginger chunks? Yeah?
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Wow, never even thought of that. What do you know
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exactly what it does? You just feel the vibes of it. Yeah,
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it's very strong.
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Vibes.
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So yeah, yeah, it's a nice reward at the end.
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Let me give you a punch in the face. Ginger
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does something similar.
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Hmm. Yeah, maybe I'll throw one in the old.
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You feel better after doing it, though.
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I just feel like I'm on on, I have a
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plan and then I'm sticking to it.
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Isn't that so much of life is like that, if
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you like kind of does that matter if it works,
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but like if it's like a thing, it's structured, planned
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kind of thing.
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Yeah, well it starts to give me a little bit
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like of integrity with myself, you know, and it becomes
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kind of a pattern. That's been one of the toughest
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things I think for me, and I would guess probably
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for most people, is just starting a pattern sometimes, you know.
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Yeah, I feel like that's kind of been one of
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the things that.
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It keeps you from the negative patterns.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's like, well, if I know, if I have
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this to do tomorrow and it's a positive thing, then
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sometimes it's like if there's something negative the night before someone,
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I'm like, I can't do it.
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I already have a commitment, you know. Yeah, yeah, but
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it has been tough.
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I go in sports, where sometimes it's it's better than others,
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but honoring like commitments to myself, having that, you know,
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and just building that integrity that I know I'm going
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to be here.
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For myself every day. Yeah, that's been a challenge for me.
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It's it's gotten better over time, but it's been a
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tough That's been probably one of my tougher things.
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I would imagine it might be for most for a
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lot of folks.
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Yeah, Like the disconnect between like what you want to
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do and then what you actually do, which is like
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the human condition. It's like what our existence is defined by.
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Like how how big is that divide? Probably determines if
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you're happier or not in life.
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Yeah, I think you're right.
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I mean that's one of the things that I think
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about the most is how far away am I from
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what I would like to be doing, what my behaviors
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would like to be.
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Out now in life? Like, I mean, you've got through
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various stages. How would you assess now?
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I think like with work, work and things like that
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have been good. You know that stuff has been good.
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I think you know on the set on the wellness
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side of like uh, probably emotional wellness, you know, I've
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suffered with, like or I've dealt with like a lot
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of like uh, connectivity disorders, like relationship stuff, commitment, you know,
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like uh, probably wishing I was making making better choices
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with my like dating and social life at times. And
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you know, sometimes if someone will show interest, I'll kind
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of I'll have to see what's there. Whereas sometimes if
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I know it's not even a good fit, you know.
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So that's probably been one of the tougher things. It's
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probably been my emotional addictive behavior.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm I guess I'm newly in a partnership,
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the best relationship of my life. Really, We've been together
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for a couple of years now, and man, it is,
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like I mean, it is the single thing in life
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that makes me more happy than anything, you know, Like
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it's relationships are so tough, and especially when they tip
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to acrimony.
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What does acrimony mean?
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Just like when it's a negative state, you know, when
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there's like bickering and like finding fault and trying to
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correct and the inability to resolve conflict, when there's a
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negative vibe and they just kind of persist in this
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low level where it's always unsettled. There's just nothing worse.
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And I mean that's true in business relationships, is true
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in personal relationships, friendships all kinds, and like what I
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have now is just so good.
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Let's go.
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Yeah, yeah, so I feel you and without it it
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I mean, it's tough to be alone, you know, it's
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tough to be like trying to date build relationships and
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I'll work out and go to the next one. It's
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tiring to like repeat that again and again.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think that is that's that's definitely true. And
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then it's like you start to compartmentalize things. Okay, well
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I'll just go on a date here, or I'll just
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you know, have this part of my relationship or intimacy here,
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and it's like, you know, and that's not uh, that's
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not the healthiest way to operate either. But congratulations. Yeah,
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they just show your lady right there. Yeah it's Kate Tolo.
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Oh beautiful lady. Man. Congratulations. You guys are smiling in
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that picture.
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Man, we we have so much fun together. I mean
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we it's like I get teary just even talking about it.
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We laugh and play is just so good.
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Yes, she really does something for you.
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She does man, like you know, like I was I
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wrote this up online. I was thinking, I'm a big
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fan of Ernest Shackleton and he was just a explorer, yeah, exactly.
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So he did the the trance uh Antarctic expedition. He
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was trying to go pull you know, short to shore
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for the first time, so from top to bottom, just
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down to the south pole, from like one side to
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the other other side.
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Okay, just at the south pole.
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Yeah, so they got they got the ship all prepared,
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they got all their materials, you know, like enough food
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and materials for the entire duration. They get stuck in
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the ice before they even get there early winter, and
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then the entire book is about this insane survival story
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like what they went through and not a single man
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and his crew died, but when you read what he
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went through, it's just unimaginable that they were able to
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endure these kinds of things. And I know this is
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like it's a too dramatic of a comparison, but there
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was some similarities. I was thinking before, like what does
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it feel like to not have deep companionship in my life?
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Where I've had relationships and they weren't good, right, they
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ended up being bad, and then having something that is good.
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It felt like I'm sure what Shackleton and his crew
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felt like putting their feet on land after being adrift
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in the ocean for you know, I don't know what
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the total duration of times, maybe a year, but just
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like stable, sturdy, solid, you know, instead of like what's
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happening today? What do I have to deal with? Is
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my life at risk? Just all the emotional whiplash you
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get and like challenges, and when you're by yourself, it's
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also harder to self regulated. It's harder to calm yourself down.
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It's nice when someone else's there like kind of be
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like a oh, get a hug, yeah, one hundred percent.
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Oh drug.
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The other day I was I saw my friend in
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in l A And I got a hug in it
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and she just kind of gave me like a she
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gave me a nice hug.
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And then I was like, I'm gonna stay in this hug.
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Just yeah, like in my phone yeah yeah, oh yeah yeah.
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So like was she like a ten out of ten hugger?
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She you know what, she surprised me because but yeah
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she got she got a good hug on her, that's
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for sure.
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You know, some people are just like gifted huggers, right,
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they just know how to like bring it in and
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like somehow the arm from the chest and like the
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whole thing just fits like a puzzle piece.
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Yeah, like even like a lot of times.
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Yeah, we talked about before, like a grandmother will hug
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you so well.
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Sometimes yeah, I'll like I've always kind of I guess
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been that I'll do the one arm hug. I hug
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a lot, though, I hug a lot. I think sometimes
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it catches people off car people like what's going on?
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Man?
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Yeah, I don't this person, but open up a hug bank,
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you know what they should do. Yeah, those places where
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they had payphones before, they should have somebody standing there
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put a quarter in their pocket and they.
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Got a huggy.
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You know. It's like one of the most underappreciated things. Yes,
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relaunch the hug. I think they got where. I think
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we're ready for it. Brian Johnson, thanks for coming in. Man,
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nice to meet you, brood to see you.
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It's a pleasure.
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Dude.
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I think you're different than maybe what I seem like you.
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I thought you would seem a little bit more like
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a robot.
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You know, I get that so much. I mean I've
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had several people think, you know, approach me like, are
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you AI really like really believing? And that's the case.
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So I think I am robotic. I think I'm somewhere
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neurodivergent in some areas. So I think people are just
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confused by me generally. So I had I understand that, like.
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Yeah, that was my thought.
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But you seem way more normal than that, Like just
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like a regular dude who's been like, you know, doing
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wild ship with his blood. You know, like you seem
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it's more like a like a chill ass kind of Dracula.
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Type of what did you expect?
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I think I expected somebody that seemed to be honest
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to have like more of a sense of and this
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is just a wild generalization and this is probably not
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the best word, but more of like an autism to them. Yeah,
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and I don't. Yeah, I didn't get that at all.
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It just got like a warm guy who seems like
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a lot more engaging than other people I've met who
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I've thought similar things about.
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Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just hiding. It will manifest
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in a few minutes. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
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When it starts to bubble up, when you're keeper.
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Whoever's operating you on on the app that turns up,
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the mask slowly starts slipping and it's like.
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Oh yeah, like your database is showing dude or something exactly.
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So just so our viewers knowing so many people know
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about you now, men, there's so many clips you out there.
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You've kind of you're kind of this astronaut that hasn't
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left the planet in a way kind of because it's like,
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you know, you're kind of ex using yourself as an experiment.
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That's what it seems. You know, you're life maxing. That's
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what people say. Can you just explain to us kind
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of what your general sort of goal is or what
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your motive has been.
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in eighteen seventy, the big talk of the town was
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there was this divide over this guy who had ideas
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that the reason why idea is yeah around, the reason
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why people were getting sick and dying is because of
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these microscopic objects called bacteria. And half the town was like,
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that's stupid as fuck, what are you talking about. The
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other half was like, honestly, that could be legit. Now,
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like they didn't have the ability to see these microscopic
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objects turned out it's true. These microscopic objects are called bacteria, right,
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They can cause infections. So if you don't wash your
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hands in between surgery or when you're maintaining hygiene practices,
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get infection and risk increase your risk of dying. And
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so that's the kind of example where a new idea
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showed up, it was seen as crazy, and eventually it
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turned out to be true. And now today we're like, oh,
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of course, like that happens every year, every year exactly.
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is that we've reached a point of humans on the
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planet where we may not die. Now that sounds that
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shit crazy, whereas and we can live forever, not even forever, right,
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because it's a kind of concept we understand. It's just
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that we might be able to extend our lifespans to
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horizons where we can't really imagine, for example, like one
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hundred five hundred one thousand, like some number we don't
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even know that breaks our brains. So it's just not
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like a seventy year expectancy, right, It's something much longer.
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And it could be the case that as our lifespans
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are extended, they get longer and longer and longer and longer.
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I'm suggesting is we are at that point with technology,
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we may be the first generations of humans who don't die. Now,
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if that's the case, everything changes. And so that's what
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I've been trying to do is to say that if
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that is the case, how does a human behave? What
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do they do? And so that's the whole That's why
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it's so controversial, is because you take status quo and
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it's like, if we're all gonna die anyways, well bro,
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you might as well, right, like do all this stuff
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people do today.
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Right, drink PBR whatever for it, you know, exactly, Yeah,
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knock up some woman or man. Now I think you
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can even knock up. You're like, what's happening? Yeah, but
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I see what you're saying. So like if you if
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you say, if you got to the finish line and
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they're like, oh, you can't cross the finish line anymore,
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You're like, oh, if i'd have known that, I would
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have ran the race exactly right, so differently exactly or
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back in n you're already taking my time along the race.
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Instead now I'm just standing there at the finish line
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decrepit or like with you know, just like aftermarket pieces
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and stuff, and I would have done it differently.
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That's right. So like right now, like you basically, if
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everybody dies, then you're playing a game of yolo. And
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so then your game is yolo, is like, okay, what
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am I willing to well, I'm willing to trade life
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for what? And so, for example, the world I came
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from entrepreneurship. The playbook is you don't sleep, you don't
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take care of your health, you run yourself ragged. You
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try very hard to make a whole bunch of money,
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but in doing that, you burn yourself to a crisp, right,
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and then you end up and you're like fat, you're
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like forty years older than when you started.
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Your family's falling apart. You're a crisp, or you don't
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have one exactly, but you're just burnt to a crisp.
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That's what happened to me. And so you basically say,
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I'm willing to trade life for this money, because there's
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this idea of if you have money, then you get blank.
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And so you're making this explicit trade off. I'm willing
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to trade my conscious existence for money, and I'm saying
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that trade no longer makes sense. It no longer makes
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sense to die for something like that. Now we all
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have like practical things, we need to pay our bills
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and stuff like that. But I'm trying to basic say
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we're a society that has built a society of die
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and I'm working on don't die as the new way
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of being humans. So that's like the gist of it.
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But do you think it's easier to say that once
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you have some money and once you have like a
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you know, you have a place where you're like, okay,
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you know, I know that I'm gonna be okay. It's like,
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do you think you would have been able to switch
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that mindset before having because then you got a company
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and you got sold it for you know a great
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deal of money and congratulations and yeah, and that's that's
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the American dream, you know. But do you think you
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would have been able to have that same mindset before?
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Because that mindset before is like, yeah, grind get this money,
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everything will be good, and it kind of is nice
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in some ways because there's a goal there. Yeah, do
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you think you could have had it before or is
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it easier to have now.
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Yeah, I mean there's there's two parts. This one is
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I'm saying that like fast food companies like McDonald's and Wendy's,
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they're evil. They they use science to make food that
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addicts you to their food. Right, they're building addiction, for sure,
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social media algorithms they're building addiction. Right, They porn alcohol, smoking,
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Like basically, as a society, we have a predator pray
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relationship where companies prey upon individuals with the best science
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of technology possible and extract from them life for profit.
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stop being evil, Like, don't use your powers to make
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people addicted, to make them, you know, to take their
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life from them. And then two is I don't want
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to blame people because I know it's easy for me
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to say this once I've been on the other side.
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So one, I'm just trying to say like, hey, this
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this is fucked up. Number two is I try to
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be a really positive role in people's lives to say, like,
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if you're ambitious and you do want to make a
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whole bunch of money for example, here's a playbook, right,
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Like the idea that you're better off working eighteen hours
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a day and sleeping for is just scientifically wrong. Ah,
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I got it right. So like, if you're gonna work
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really hard, make sure you get eight hours of sleep,
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make sure you do a little bit of exercise, eat well.
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But you're not gonna be doing yourself a favor if
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you're eating trash right, not sleeping well, and not working out,
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like it makesure systems. Like for an engineer, it means
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like nobody wants to write shitty code. If you don't
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take care of yourself, you are shitty code. It's like,
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don't be shitty code and try to build life. And
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so those are two things. But I want to be
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very clear, like I'm not blaming people. We just live
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in a fuck It sounds like that we live in
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a fucked up society, yeah, And I'm trying to call
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attention to the fact that like, like the system you're
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playing in is not a good.
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One and it's heavily stacked against people, and especially if
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there's a lot of things where it is addiction basis, like, oh, well,
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they know there's so much information now of how to
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get you addicted down to the molecule, down to like
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the moment of what you're looking at on your phone,
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that it really is a war. It's a battle for
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your preservation. It's like it used to be that you know,
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the man had to wake up and he was he
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had and know where the predator was, where the apex
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predators are. And now the apex predators are, they're you know,
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they're in our homes, they're in our hands, and it
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really is it's it's still a uh, it's a battle,
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and that is a battle. It's like if you want
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to take it on. And then some days and moments
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and some people's lives are like, you know, I don't
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really want to take that battle on, And that's kind
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of okay too. But I think knowing that the battle
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is there is pretty Yeah, at least makes it that
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all the cards are on the table.
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Yeah.
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I saw that you recently you did a social media
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fast right, Yeah, I did. Yeah, take me through some
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of that.
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What was that like?
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Yeah? So at first, I I love social media. I
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think it's so much fun, Like.
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We have great stuff on ex It's like you can't
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even scroll directs without finding something that's great. For Brian Johnson,
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and a lot of it's really great information too. Oh
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here's the post riding. I did a forty hour and
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then a seventy hour social media fast. I've come to
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believe that social media is pollution.
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Yeah. So first of all, you know, in watching your
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Netflix specials, Like what I what I love about watching
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that is you can say anything, right, Like the shit
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you talk about is so is so unhinged, like literally
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there's like no value maybe if that material where you're like,
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probably shouldn't include that one, but like I couldn't detect it.
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Oh yeah, I like just saying shit and so like
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that's what you're supposed to be able to do exactly.
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So, like what I love about that is the elbow
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room you have, right, there's like when you look at existence,
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you say, like my goal is to entertain you, and
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I have all this open space. But then when people
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don't have that, when you when you don't have comedy,
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it's the outlet and you're playing in society, people sit
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in a very narrow box. They feel like they can
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only say certain things. If they step outside that, they
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get punished by the tribe, right like for whatever reason,
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And so what I love about social media is it
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just has enabled me to create elbow room, Like I
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posted nudes of myself, you know, like we did the
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blood trans the plasma transfers, like we we basically have
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done enough thing I did. I did magic mushrooms on
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a live stream.
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Yeah, that's what it really made me think, Oh, I
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really want to talk to this guy now because he's
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going into other realms. And before we get into some
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of that, what were some of the findings from the
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social media fast or do you think it was long
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enough to notice anything?
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It was, Honestly, it was kind of life changing. It
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was I did one fast that was forty hours long,
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and then I did second fast that was seventy hours long.
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And the science behind this is when you're engaged in
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social media, you basically have dopamine dysregulation, right like you're
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in this addiction state and you don't realize it, but
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it's actually creating all kinds of harm. And then you
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engage with social media to feel normal again. Now, once
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you pull out of it and you have that break,
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you kind of get you're out of the spell, you're
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not hypnotize anymore, and then you get to feel it
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for what it is. So now when I pull up
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the feed, it feels toxic, Like it feels like I've
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had a fast food meal, or like I've had I'm
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in a second hand room of secondhand smoke, or like
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it just feels so bad. And I guess that I
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pay attention to these feelings because over the past five years,
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I've been doing like hundreds of experiments to my body,
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like what things make my body rejuvenate and what things
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make my body die. So I have this intuition I've built,
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and now when I go on social media, it like,
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literally it feels like death. And so it's complicated though,
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because I love social media. I love to post, I
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love to play, I love to interact. But also when
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I get on it's like I'm like, nah, this is
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not good. So honestly it's complicated. I don't know what
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to do.
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Yeah, there's a thing I notice if I've taken mushrooms before,
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and you'll look at your phone, it's like, oh, get
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that away from me. Yeah, you feel it right, Yes,
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it's like, oh, that's not real. That's that's the most
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unnatural thing, Like what is that it? Yes, it feels
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like a kryptonite or if I've done ayahuascar, been on ayahuasca,
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you're coming in and I see my phone, or I'll
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get home and turn on the TV, I'm like, oh,
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get that thing away from me. That is something that's
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just resonating, like something dark.
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Yeah, no, interesting, like in those moments when you feel sober.
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It's like you do, you can viscerally feel it. But
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then once you get in there and you kind of
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play around for a while, you don't, you lose that
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sensitivity and you feel normal again. But yeah, it's I think,
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And so what's been resonating it? I've been so I
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posted this on social I said, because a lot of
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people think that social media is like a vice or
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like a you know, a bad habit. But I reframed
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it and said, actually, I think it's pollution. It's like
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microplastics or lead in the pipes or spastils in the wall,
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or like you know, lead in the gasoline. I think
485
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it really is like a societal pollution. It accumulates in
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the body. It creates low great inflammation. And I've been
487
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sharing this so many people are like, I feel this,
488
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but they the problem is you can't like telling someone
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to turn it off. Is like telling someone to not
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breathe coal smoke in London in the nineteenth century, like
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you can't do it, or like you know, if there's
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if there's if there's water pollution, Like the solution for
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water pollution in London in nineteenth century was not to
494
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say don't drink water. It was like to filter the water.
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So I think the solution here is, like I proposed
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this that if people could build AI to basically create
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a layer of protection between me and the Internet, like
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me and and the social feed like extract out all
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the performative metrics, extract out all the garbage, all the slop,
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and they give me the goodness. But I want someone
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to like it would be cool if someone could build
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social media into a longevity therapy versus like he actually
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having a cigarette.
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Oh as you were.
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Saying, like make it a long, slow fire that has
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like all a mix of things.
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It helped me when I engage with it. I want
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to feel good. I want to feel like I've drank
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like you know, lemon water and ginger right, as opposed
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to like having a couple of cokes. Yeah, oh yeah,
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you a slamming oint of energy drinks and oh.
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Yeah, dude, my friend keeps a five hour energy drinking
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his sock.
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Yeah, you know, like this is the thing. There's like right,
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people pound like two to three to four a day,
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like between you know, four hundred and eight hundred milligrams
517
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of caffeine and they like on top of medafinil or something.
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You know. So it's like and.
519
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Kids are doing it. Kids will get an energy drink
520
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before school. I'm like, what are you, dude? Your grades
521
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are bad. Yeah, it's not even performative. Yeah even doing
522
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over there, dude. Yeah, you just because you're reading the
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fucking Crucible or whatever. I got to get you another
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Celsius or something.
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Uh ah.
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It says, hey, hey, social media users visibly decline one
527
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to two points in attractiveness. I seven, Oh yeah, I
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saw you said something that social media even can.
529
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Make us uglier. Yeah it does.
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This is the post really.
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Yeah, yeah, this is good science because like when you
532
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engage heavily in social media, you're basically your lower You
533
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have higher depression, higher anxiety, you've got more inflammation, you
534
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sleep more portly. So these are all things that when
535
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the body is in that condition, you just look worse.
536
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So yeah, so heavy social media users lose at least
537
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a point or two on the attracting the scale, like
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you may go from a seven to a five. So yeah,
539
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it does legitimately affect parents.
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Yeah, and I think everybody kind of starts at an eight.
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That's what I think. If you brush your teeth, you're
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an a.
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You're right, right, and you're nice, You're like eight point
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five yea. How you give a good hug, you're like nine.
545
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Oh, you're already halfway there. Yeah, and then the rest
546
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is just the lord. And if your parents, if they
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were tens, wow, that's kind of fa Yeah, because I
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this is interesting because I do notice, Like, first of all,
549
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I'll say to people, I noticed this. Now I'll say
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to people, Hey, I'm gonna go into my phone for
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a second, right, So it's almost like I'm tay, I'm
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letting you. It's almost like, yeah, I'm gonna have a cigarette.
553
00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:26.119
It's like the same sort of thing.
554
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Yea.
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And then now it's gotten to me sometimes I'm just
556
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so sick of Washington's social is just like I'll look
557
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at a few things and it's just like, oh, this
558
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isn't hell, this isn't doing anything anymore. That start of
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the thing too, is I don't even this doesn't feel
560
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like it's doing anything anymore. Yeah, and then that the
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algorithm that you know somebody's behind it kind of queuing
562
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up what is next. It doesn't leave that uh as
563
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much of a whimsicalness about it.
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Yeah, that's right.
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to the dot com slash theo oh yeah, I saw
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this this one tweet that's just getting a lot of
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attention that I saw. Mobile phone short video uses negatively
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impacts attention functions.
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Yeah. An EEG study says.
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One thing I do feel like is that there should
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be accountability for whoever is making the algorithms, like cause
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there's been kids get affected and then they watch stuff
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and then they might consider self harm, right, or people
625
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who you're curious about one video but then it serves
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you seven others and now you have a strong take
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about a group or about a person or anything. So
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it's like, shouldn't the creator of the algorithm, Like if
629
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I make something and I give it to you and
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I know it's bad and poisonous, you know there should
631
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be you should be somewhat accountable. It feels like I
632
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know there's just now a court case. Or wasn't Zuckerberg
633
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just in court?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, here we go.
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Mark Zuckerberg grilled about underage Instagram users social media addiction
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during Landmark trial. In his first time testifying about child
638
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safety in front of a jury, Zuckerberg said the company
639
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does not seek to make Instagram addictive to younger users,
640
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pushing back against claims that the social media app is
641
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designed to be harmful to children. I'm focused on getting
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a community that is sustainable. If you do something that's
643
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not good for people, maybe they'll spend more time short term,
644
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but if they're not happy with it, they're not going
645
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to use it over time. I'm not trying to maximize
646
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the amount of time people spend every month.
647
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Yeah, this is why I was saying. I wanted to
648
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reframe because when people talk about social media. Typically the
649
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blame is on the person. The person spends too much
650
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time on social media, right, They need to be more disciplined,
651
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they need to set limits. And when you reframe this
652
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and you say, actually, social media is a pollutant, it's
653
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like some company manufacturing cigarettes or asbestos or lead or like.
654
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When you reframe it that way, it's what you said,
655
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is this is a pollutant driving society. That it is
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making society depressed, anxious, lose focus, right, having all sorts
657
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of negative psychological and physiological implications. When you reframe it
658
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that way, it changes the blame from the individual to like,
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you can't reasonably expect people to want to be part
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of the tribe, to want to be part of a
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friend group, and then put them in a system like
662
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the It's like lead and pipes. Water is in the pipes,
663
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but also lead is too, so it's like you can't
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The solution is not till people get off the phone.
665
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.319
You have to do some kind of filtering or something
666
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because it's poisonous.
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00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.359
Right now, Yeah, I think it's a great way to
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say it.
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Yeah, that it's a pollutant, right, and people say, we'll
670
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just get off your phone, But our society has gotten
671
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to the place where it is.
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On our phone.
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Is we live in an electronica society in a digital age.
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So it's yeah, if you have a neighbor next door
675
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who is a company that's just like blowing like you
676
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know those smoke stacks that they never did, that they
677
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never had any governors on and they were just pouring
678
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.519
horrible smoke into the air. Yeah, those were held liable,
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So it makes sense that these would be two. The
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case filed in Los Angeles Superior Court involves over sixteen
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hundred planinefs, including families and school districts. Suing Meta YouTube,
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which is TikTok and snap KGM, claims features like infinite
683
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scrolling notifications and beauty filters create addiction, exacerbating body image,
684
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depression and suicidal thoughts. Yeah, some of the key moment
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zucker work denied Meta aims to addict youth, stating his
686
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focus is on a sustainable community where unhappy users won't
687
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stay long term. Grilled on underage users and ar beauty
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filters despite internal concerns, he emphasized balancing free expression and
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well being, saying you don't really build social media apps
690
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unless you care about people. Being able to express themselves.
691
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I don't know if that's true anymore.
692
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You know, the you know what feels like is in physics,
693
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there's this idea like a phase transition. So when water
694
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is at ninety nine degrees celsius, it's a solid, When
695
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it's one hundred and one it's a vapor. So just
696
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a very small change, it's not gradual, just snaps. That's
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a phase transition. It feels to me like social media
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is heading towards a phase transition where there's like all
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this built up, all these built up problems that are
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over like about to go from ninety nine to CE
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to one hundred and one c and it just snaps,
702
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and society is like we can't, right, we can't do anymore,
703
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Like it's too much, Like we're all fucking broken from
704
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.599
this thing, right, it's got to stop. And like I
705
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don't think these things are cool because they don't happen gradually.
706
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It's just suddenly overnight. Yeah, So I would love that
707
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if like somehow there was a snap and we could
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all get back our sanity.
709
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Right, like with ug boots, like when people were like,
710
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oh these are great, and Tom Brady was wearing them
711
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then one day, people.
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Were like done, yeah, yeah, the ship's we heard.
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Yeah.
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People will be so relieved to not feel like because
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right now.
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Dude, they come out with a rule right now and
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said on your phones won't even work on Saturday and Sunday.
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I think the entire world would exhale.
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A hundred percent. And that's also true like on like
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grind culture, where the expectations you have to work twenty
721
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hours a day grunt. Also it's like in this expectation.
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Your eyes open, I know, keep looking at invoice.
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It's like we're like driving ourselves insane as a species.
724
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.160
Is like we're losing our shit, and like it's it's
725
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.519
right there in front of us, and it's all these expectations.
726
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.079
And if it would be a it would be amazing.
727
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:02.359
I love that.
728
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.079
Like the phone don't work, it's like, goddamn, let's let's
729
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.039
just celebrate. I think, and I think people would it
730
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.880
don't even work, good fuck them. I think one day
731
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.719
if people take over a business or like people like
732
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.960
storm the capitol, dude, storm t mobile, storm these towers
733
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.159
and bring them down, free us from what this the
734
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.880
it's digital chains. Yeah, where we're locked. You know, you
735
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:29.480
know when it's people. When people are not with the tribe,
736
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.800
they experience it as physical death because we're we are
737
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:36.679
evolved to live in a group of one hundred and
738
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.199
fifty people or less to be seen by the tribe.
739
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:41.719
And when you're on social media, if you're not posting
740
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.760
on social media, you're not seen by the tribe. So
741
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.800
it feels literally like death. That's why you can't just say, like,
742
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.599
don't be on your phone, because you're like your body's like,
743
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.039
am I dead to the tribe? Right?
744
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.199
Do I even exist? Yeah? You feel like that? Yeah,
745
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.840
I take a couple of months off, will people know?
746
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:57.559
Do I exist? What's going on?
747
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.599
So therefore you're forced into this perform of existence of
748
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.840
like hey guys, I exist, remember me, Like go me
749
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.280
over here, Like remember I'm part of the tribe. So
750
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.360
it's just it's such a violent and abusive relationship of
751
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:10.679
this game that no one wants to plan me Like
752
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.719
it is fun, Like there's value to it, there's good information,
753
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:15.480
like there's I don't want to say there's not virtues
754
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.840
to it, but the way it's structured now is just
755
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.280
like a loss for society overall.
756
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.760
Yeah, dude, Well, there's just things that you would miss
757
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:26.880
bro sitting there at home wondering if a chick thought
758
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:31.360
about you or not. Yeah, Bro, and yeah, here's the thing.
759
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:33.880
Now you can just find out immediately she's liking some
760
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.920
of the dude, do you see that she's already married
761
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.239
or whatever. But back in the day, you couldn't do that,
762
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.239
so you just had and you thought that she did,
763
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.599
so you were like hopeful and excited, and you would
764
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:44.599
just you would take care of yourself till the next
765
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.920
time you saw. But now you would just go see
766
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.719
somebody like, oh, she's out with Rick or whatever. So
767
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.039
I'm now I'm depressed. Now I'm at home. Now I'm
768
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.920
not even gonna get out of bed, you know. I
769
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.519
think just those things, and then the also like the
770
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:02.159
negative effects of just like if you communicate with all
771
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.800
types of people all day, then when you finally see
772
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.599
like your spouse or your partner at the end of
773
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.360
the day, you're kind of burnt out. Sometimes you know
774
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.199
you're burnt out because you've had all this odd connection
775
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:17.039
that's not real connection, but it's it's a some artificial connection.
776
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.920
It's like if you've been eating Freedo's all day and
777
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.440
then you get to dinner, You're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
778
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.400
this looks so good. But I'm just I can't even
779
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:28.960
have any right now. I'm already full of shit.
780
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.119
So we with this project, we have been so basically
781
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.119
project my project don't die.
782
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:35.280
Oh your project don't die.
783
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:35.519
Yeah.
784
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.079
So like basically, like the idea is that if we
785
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.079
are the first generation won't die, then the goal is
786
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.320
like identify things that make you die and then don't
787
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:45.719
do those things. So I try to eliminate them. So
788
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.840
what you're talking about at the end of the day,
789
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.400
when you're like, I don't know what it is, but
790
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.760
I just feel like shit, right, then it's so it's
791
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.519
basically it's the stacking of all these things that make
792
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:58.079
you die. For example, did you know this that when
793
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:02.559
you walk into a fast through place like McDonald's, you
794
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.239
have to smell that you you right when you walk in.
795
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:10.639
That is like secondhand smoke. It's the aerosol, aerosolized oils.
796
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:16.400
So like that's Ronald McDonald's cologne man colony. That creepy.
797
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.440
You know what that's creepy is fuck wow, because you've
798
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.880
got that play place in the bad God that is
799
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.039
that is dys dopeic holly shit, I didn't think about that.
800
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.320
It is like that is one example. So we track
801
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.880
two hundred and fifty things in our society that make
802
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:34.840
me die. And so when you go about your day
803
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:35.159
with this.
804
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.559
Project, yeah exactly, so you guys track two hundred and
805
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.000
fifty things that make you die.
806
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.480
Yeah. So basically, when I started doing this, we said, okay, like,
807
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:43.639
are we the first generation who won't die? Okay, let's
808
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.639
take that as a premise. So that I hired a
809
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.440
team of doctors and we got to work, and so
810
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.400
we we went through all the scientific evidence. We said,
811
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.119
like what does a scientific evidence say about longevity and
812
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:58.039
things that make you die? And then I measured every
813
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.199
organ in my body that I could, Like we go
814
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.280
through and say what is the age? So I was
815
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.719
forty two years old when we started, So I said, like,
816
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.639
what is the biological age of my heart? Because your
817
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.239
biological age can be different than your chronological age. Okay,
818
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.920
So for example, like my ear, my left ear is
819
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.320
aged sixty four because I shot a lot of guns
820
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:18.599
as a kid, listened to loud music, so it's impaired.
821
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.079
So we measured all my organs and said, like, here's
822
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.079
my baseline and then we got to work like doing
823
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.599
therapies and measurement, and so I became those measured persons
824
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.480
in human history. There's more data on my body than
825
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.760
any humans ever lived. Wow. And so in doing that,
826
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.840
we just found out like what kills the body? You know,
827
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.760
like do microplastics harm the body? If so, how you know,
828
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.639
just going into fast food like aerosolized does that? Like
829
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:47.760
social media? And so when you it really resonates when
830
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:51.400
you say, you go home, like you don't know why
831
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.920
you feel like shit, But after doing this for years,
832
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.000
I know why. It's like the stacking of all these
833
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:01.440
things that society has done to make a profit and
834
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:04.239
then it's just like you're the collateral damage. But it's
835
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.960
like we've built a society of die and that's what
836
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.360
sucks about it. So I'm I never want to approach
837
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.320
it to say like hey, you individual, like you get
838
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:12.880
off your phone or you stop doing these things. It's
839
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.559
like the system's broken, right, And that's what's cool about
840
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.000
this moment is if we do see this moment is
841
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:22.559
like this is like eighteen seventy bacteria is present. Do
842
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.159
we believe this crazy idea or not? Like this could
843
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:26.960
be like it would change everything, so so like we'd
844
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:28.559
transform ourselves as a society.
845
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:31.639
I love that idea because, yeah, when you put it
846
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:33.360
like that, it gives you more of a hope, It
847
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.400
gives it more of like a this universal type of
848
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:38.239
thing that's going on.
849
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:39.159
And I feel that.
850
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.400
I feel like there's a lot of people questioning everything
851
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:43.480
right now, like is this good for me? Why did
852
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:45.639
I believe all these companies, Why did I believe that
853
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:48.519
the government and the FDA and the EPA that they
854
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:50.840
were looking out for me. They It's obvious now from
855
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:56.280
so many trials and corporate interests that they weren't. You know,
856
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:58.960
there's all these there's there's all these things that none
857
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.039
of that was happening, and so now it's back on
858
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:03.960
us and what do we really want right because we'd
859
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:05.519
put the faith I think a lot of people would
860
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.599
put the faith in the hands of their government, and
861
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:12.199
not entirely, but you would just assume that, yeah, the
862
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.599
food they're letting come into us, into our lives where
863
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.840
we pay taxes to make sure there's an agency that
864
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:20.280
overlooks this that it's going to be okay for us.
865
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.000
And then I think it's at the point now where
866
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.559
people that that idea is totally spoiled.
867
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:26.360
So where do we go from here?
868
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:29.199
Are those powers going to try to like imprison us
869
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.880
into the space which also feels like it's gonna they're
870
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.119
trying to because you have like companies like Baron Monsanto,
871
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.800
they're lobbying, you know, like trying to keep all these
872
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.079
things in our food and make sure that people can't
873
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.159
sue if they do get sick or is it going
874
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.639
to be that there's some sort of of a revolution.
875
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:49.559
So I saw you just you just t having to
876
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:53.199
pour your coffee into and that was out of a
877
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:59.599
paper cup into a Yeah, yeah, Okay, what is the
878
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:01.480
cause of that? Because that's the one thing a lot
879
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:02.199
of people are thinking of.
880
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.239
What So there's a lot of there's been a lot
881
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.679
of discussion around microplastics. Yeah, you know, like they're everywhere.
882
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:09.519
There are our clothes, there are are food. Like So
883
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.119
we did this project where we said, okay, can we
884
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.800
measure microplastics in my body? And so we did a
885
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:20.159
few things. One is, we measured microplastics in my blood
886
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.840
and we measured microplastics in my semen. Okay, and so
887
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:28.320
two distinct biological systems. And we wanted to look at
888
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.960
semen because fertility is really important, and we want to
889
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:33.039
like because there was a few studies that showed that
890
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:38.960
uh one percent of tested meles of tested men men
891
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.760
have microplastics in their balls and their semen, and so
892
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:48.039
we wanted to basically pose this question, could we do
893
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:51.000
anything in life that would lower my microplastic burden in
894
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:52.960
my body, in my blood and on my semen. And
895
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.400
so we did a few things, Like one is the
896
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:01.320
cups they use for you know, hot coffee leech microplastics.
897
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:03.960
The heat costs of leaching to microplastics, so when you're
898
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.719
drinking that coffee, you're consuming microplastics. And so we did
899
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.480
that plus a whole bunch of other things to reduce it,
900
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.280
and we dropped my microplastic burden by eighty seven percent
901
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.599
in both blood and salmon. And so that was a
902
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:18.280
big win for us because no one in the world
903
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.920
had ever demonstrated that that. You can look at both
904
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:22.719
those things and look at the remdiations. And the second
905
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.320
thing we saw is we think that part of the
906
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:29.079
reduction was from the things we did, like removing plastic cups,
907
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.800
you know, plastic cutting boards, like trying to remove plastic
908
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.440
from the house. Then also dry sauna. We think dry
909
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.639
sauna was potentially, we're not sure potentially the cause of
910
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.599
reducing microplastics in the body overall. So it's kind of
911
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:45.360
the example of where if you hear a headline of
912
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.199
like toxin, like microplastic is scary, we try to lay
913
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:51.480
out a clear path of like you can do these
914
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.639
things to reduce your exposure and to bring your levels down.
915
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:56.880
So if we do that systematically over like a whole
916
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.599
bunch of things. But yeah, that's why I basically try
917
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.039
to avoid any material that would be warmed and leach
918
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.039
microplastics where I stained the still you don't have that leaching.
919
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:06.639
Problem, got it?
920
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.039
And what about using just our microwaves and stuff like that,
921
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:12.960
Are there microplastics in there? I hear recently that there's
922
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.679
microplastics in our air fryers and stuff like that. Is
923
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.400
that stuff true or is that just a sales pitch
924
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:20.679
for them to get you to get a new air fryer. Yeah,
925
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.320
I mean if your air fry I was looking at
926
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:23.880
the air fryer recently. I think a lot of them
927
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:28.000
are made with plastic, and so you're heating these materials
928
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.920
to certain degrees where you're inevitably going to have off
929
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.760
gas seen of microplastics. So I know this is the
930
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.719
thing is like once you start, once you realize the
931
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.760
plastic is a target, you realize you come to learn
932
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.199
it's in everything, no, everywhere you look. So even now,
933
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:47.559
like after I've tried to purge my life from plastic,
934
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:49.559
I will still like for create. Here's an example.
935
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.159
I was doing sauna to try to rid my body
936
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.599
of toxins, including microplastics. I mistakenly used a towel that
937
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.599
was ten percent polyester and ninety percent cotton. So there
938
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:06.119
I am trying to rid myself toxins and I'm using
939
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:10.320
it on my body all right, like wiping my body
940
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.400
with toxins. So like you know, like that was an
941
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:16.440
idiotic mistake, but like an example, like we're always we're
942
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.119
just finding this forever. So I got rid of all
943
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.320
the I thought that was a cotton towler wasn't.
944
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:21.079
But we have rid of that.
945
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.920
But it's just forever. It's it's amazing how omnipresent they are.
946
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.440
Yeah, I've actually been working with this company, American Giant
947
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:30.599
that they make. They've tried to use just American cotton
948
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.199
and make their products just in America like that, I
949
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:38.199
mean just a top to bottom America only company that
950
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.119
makes textiles or clothing, because they don't really even have
951
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.599
those anymore. I remember their journey was, how do we
952
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:47.519
even get a shirt made here? And it was seemingly
953
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.880
impossible just because we don't have the looms. There's so
954
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.119
many things we don't have. But we've been working on
955
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:56.000
a cotton like a cotton only underwear that would be
956
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:58.960
just so it's only cotton, right, so you're not dealing
957
00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.800
with anything else.
958
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:00.400
Awesome.
959
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.719
What fabrics have you found that are okay to kind
960
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.599
of keep on your body that do not have microplastics
961
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.079
in them? And which ones are the ones that people
962
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:08.000
need to be weary of?
963
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:09.960
Yeah, there's a list, so, I mean one is on
964
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:13.280
the cotton stuff. Is we were we've everything I'll put
965
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.360
into my body. We test like all the food I eat. Uh, So,
966
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.400
we were testing clothing and actually we tested a diaper,
967
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.400
a diaper where the portion of the diaper that absorbs
968
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.320
the urine for the baby. We tested that and it
969
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.719
was like eight times as high in glifol sate, so
970
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.559
so so cotton unexpectedly.
971
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.000
That's what's in the pesticide exactly.
972
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:41.440
So cotton is better than like a polyester, but cotton
973
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:44.360
is also not like it's not just pure, right, so
974
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:48.639
there could be residual pesticides in your cotton. Like how
975
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:50.599
fast it come out, we don't know. But this is like,
976
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:53.679
I this is like dangerous. I think a lot of
977
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:55.960
people listening to car like, oh my god, I give up.
978
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:57.800
But like what do I do? Right?
979
00:45:57.960 --> 00:45:59.880
But like I want to give you hope. Like you
980
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.800
you just slowly peel back one layer after another after another,
981
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.440
like chip away, It's okay, we'll get after, we'll get
982
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.400
on top of this. But just like you just know
983
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.639
that there's always these layers. So yeah, so we tested that,
984
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:14.599
and so that's in the diaper. Now, there's no evidence
985
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.760
that glifl state can go from a diaper into the skin.
986
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.119
No one's tested it. So maybe it is. But if
987
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.920
it is, that's terrible. We're bathing our children, You're brave,
988
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.280
bathing their private parts in pesticides and these diapers and
989
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.199
so like this is the kind of thing where I'm saying, like,
990
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:33.239
once you start chasing these these paths, you just find
991
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:38.119
out society has built itself for profit. They've not built
992
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:42.239
itself for life. And that's what you see everywhere. And
993
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.800
so back to this conversation the point you made before
994
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:48.800
of like this idea of care, like think of Okay,
995
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:53.719
here's a question for you. Who in your life unquestionably
996
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:57.440
acts in your best interest, like, without debt, without a doubt,
997
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.360
they acting your best interest, brother, Like you can probably
998
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.519
count on one hand, right, Yeah, everyone else, like whether
999
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.760
it's like a social group or whether it's companies or
1000
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.800
the government or whatever, everybody else shows up with a
1001
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:18.159
complicated set of objectives. Part of it maybe like's good,
1002
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.000
but the whole bunch of other the rapper behind it,
1003
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.559
maybe like they want something from you. And so there's
1004
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:25.400
this idea of care that I'm trying to pioneer with
1005
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.960
the company I'm building around this is can we legitimately,
1006
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:33.639
unquestionably always act in our customers best interest, even if
1007
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.719
it means we lose money. We always show up for you,
1008
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.239
because that's what I've been trying to do in this
1009
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.239
whole process. But it just shows that as a society
1010
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:47.599
we don't have care as a principle. Is our society,
1011
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.320
Like you're not expected actually acting someone's best interest. You're
1012
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.480
expected to have a better exchange to make profitable.
1013
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.559
Well, sometimes I will romanticize, Well it probably used to
1014
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.440
be that way, and I don't know if that's true
1015
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.760
or not. But the fact that we're at that place now,
1016
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.519
I think is important. We do this thing this this
1017
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:05.440
year around the holidays where we've tried to find ten
1018
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:10.440
American companies that were like American made products and and
1019
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:12.320
then show those off like highlight those.
1020
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:13.519
It was me and Mike Row.
1021
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:16.840
And it was just so if you want to buy
1022
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:18.960
something that's America, you can get it. You know, this
1023
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.559
is something that when you buy it, you're supporting a
1024
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.280
fellow American. So it's like, screw these big companies, Like
1025
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.079
if I buy from you and you buy from me,
1026
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.079
then we keep each other alive. Were it only you know.
1027
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.920
So we're trying to start to create this this space
1028
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.440
where you can do that, where it's like, if I
1029
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.159
want to buy something, I'd rather instead of going to
1030
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:42.239
look at like these things that are in the same
1031
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:44.639
shelves in every single place, why do I go find
1032
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.199
this unique thing that's only made by one of my
1033
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:48.320
fellow human beings.
1034
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:49.599
You know, that's a cool idea.
1035
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:51.320
It's one of the things that's kind of made me
1036
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.280
most excited recently, Like in the world and we're trying
1037
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.360
to work with like Shopify or something, you know, some
1038
00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.800
company to come along and be like, well, these are
1039
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:01.840
the sites. You know, people are gonna need these sites
1040
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.039
to build their products. Because then it's like if like
1041
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.519
we even had a woman who sells like these really
1042
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.440
like great little characters and and kind of ornaments and stuff.
1043
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:13.480
So we had some artists and creatives in there, but
1044
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.840
it was great and and a lot of them had
1045
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:16.480
great profits.
1046
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:18.280
It was like, Oh, people want this right.
1047
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.199
People want to go down the road where there is
1048
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:24.719
like some accountability for themselves and they want to be
1049
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.760
in a way where they can uh where they're the
1050
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.639
purchase that where they're putting their money. It feels like
1051
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:34.920
I'm giving this to someone else who I know probably
1052
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:36.679
needs it just as much as I do. You know,
1053
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.280
they're just a regular person. They're not a big entity,
1054
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.000
you know, so I think anyway I'm saying, I think
1055
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.840
there's somewhat of a people do care or we to
1056
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.840
get people to care where they're spending. You know, that's
1057
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:51.480
kind of stuff is very important. What are your thoughts
1058
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.119
on RFK Juniors his eat Real Food Initiative.
1059
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:54.559
Have you seen that?
1060
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:56.559
Yeah? Have Yeah, Tyson being the spokesperson.
1061
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:57.519
What's that.
1062
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.360
Yeah, Mike Tyson was was the spokesperson. He he was
1063
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:01.159
in the Super Bowl AD.
1064
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:03.880
Oh I didn't even see that. Yeah yeah, but because
1065
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:05.239
he came on here and he talked about it. He
1066
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.920
just said, eat real food, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1067
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:09.679
I think it's great. I mean I think so rfk's
1068
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:12.679
a friend. Yeah, yeah, he like he's getting after it,
1069
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.559
you know, like people, like in any situation, people are
1070
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:19.760
gonna have various opinions. Fine, but he's really trying his best.
1071
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.360
So I respect that he's pulling up and you know,
1072
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.519
he's made some great h he has some great wins
1073
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.360
getting rid of food dies and so yeah, I mean
1074
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.480
I'm I'm grateful him doing it, and it was cool,
1075
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.840
you know. Like Mike Tyson is probably the person that
1076
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.400
has been in my consciousness more than any public figure
1077
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.840
when I was when I was seven years old, he
1078
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:41.679
had pet I think he was twenty one. He just
1079
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.320
won the belt and he was on the cover of
1080
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:48.760
Sports Illustrated like every week. Again, it's right, I would
1081
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:50.719
cut those out and I had it on my wall.
1082
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:55.079
But Mike Tyson was my idol and the I actually,
1083
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.920
this is like a terrible story. I loved him so much,
1084
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.239
and I saved up all I worked all summer long
1085
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.400
mowing lawns and like doing all this whole bits of shit.
1086
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:06.079
I save up money and I bought the pay per view.
1087
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:08.760
It was like forty four dollars and ninety five cents.
1088
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:11.119
I called my friends over. I'm going to treat them
1089
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:15.320
to this amazing experience. And he was fighting Buster Douglas,
1090
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.519
his first big loss, and oh my god, that was
1091
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.639
That was like soul wrenching because I wanted to see
1092
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:25.159
Tyson like, you know, knock out of the park. I'd
1093
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:26.960
never seen him fight live, and you couldn't just like
1094
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:28.239
pull him up on clips on YouTube.
1095
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.840
YouTube. It's like it's harder to see you. But anyway,
1096
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.480
somebody like tangent there. But it's cool to see Tyson
1097
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.960
go from that to now he's like in my world
1098
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:40.639
talking about real food and how it's important. So I
1099
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:42.480
think he's he's had a cool life ARC.
1100
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:44.440
He has had a great life ARC. I mean, he's
1101
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:44.960
pretty fascint.
1102
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.599
We're supposed to do a podcast with him coming up
1103
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.119
soon actually in La Actually, so if I do do that, man,
1104
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:51.320
I'll have to make sure that you get to.
1105
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:51.880
Come over there.
1106
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:53.960
Would love to. I would love to meet him.
1107
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:56.920
That'd be super dude. Yeah, oh yeah, he was like,
1108
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:01.880
you know, boxers were such like I don't know if
1109
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.679
like they were such gods.
1110
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:09.280
They held that status right in the eighties. They were
1111
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:13.360
it like you have like basketball, you have the Bulls,
1112
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:17.440
You've got the Bears, Uh, you know, bo Jackson like
1113
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:18.199
they were it.
1114
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.119
Yeah, one hundred percent. What do you think the government's
1115
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.480
role should be in our health and diet?
1116
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:29.639
So I guess like two things. One is there there
1117
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.960
are a lot of things I want to do that
1118
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:35.719
I can't do because the government prevents me from doing it.
1119
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.559
So I can go out and smoke, I can eat
1120
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.599
fast food, I can eat all the junk food out there,
1121
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:46.639
but I can't try a new longevity drug. Companies are
1122
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.480
forbidden from allowing me through that. So like in many ways,
1123
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:54.039
I dislike, Uh, they give me the freedom to kill myself,
1124
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:56.320
but I can't have the I don't have the right
1125
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:58.599
to experiment on myself. And I wish I had more
1126
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.320
experiment experimental power that I could do.
1127
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:03.559
That have there been certain drugs is that that you
1128
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:05.960
wanted to go try or a lot of them really? Yeah, Yeah,
1129
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.679
what's one that really kind of you know, tickles your
1130
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:09.559
Benjamin button.
1131
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.559
Yeah, I think that's good. I mean there's a whole
1132
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:17.639
bunch of Uh, there's like probably a dozen. And like,
1133
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:21.480
the thing I want to do is I want to
1134
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.519
accept the responsibility of determining if it's safe or not.
1135
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:27.159
Now if I mess up, it's on me. Yeah, Like
1136
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.519
I'll take that responsibility, but I do. I don't want
1137
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:31.719
them to say like only after, because then it it
1138
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.280
creates this gigantic not it makes sense. Companies go through
1139
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:39.079
like a structured process and they say it's gone through
1140
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:41.199
this process, we give it a stamp of approval. It's
1141
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:43.480
like it's a good idea, like on large scale vaccines,
1142
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.079
like you don't want to ship a shitty vaccine to society,
1143
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:50.400
totally get it. Also right on like an equals one
1144
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:54.199
like me scale, I want to do things without their
1145
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.320
limiting my ability to do it. So it's a really
1146
00:53:56.360 --> 00:54:00.320
tricky balance because there there needs to be some ructure
1147
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.000
in place where as a member of the society, I
1148
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:07.000
can say I trust some entity to ensure what I'm
1149
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:11.039
doing is safe. Because we're saying, the company itself can't
1150
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:13.159
be trusted, right, Like there needs to be some right,
1151
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:15.840
some middleman. Yeah, but like that's the idea, but now
1152
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.760
the middleman, it feels like I can't be trusted exactly,
1153
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.119
Like what if we just like take this little wholesale
1154
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.880
What we're going back to is care, right, Like, do
1155
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:28.000
I trust that whoever is doing something is legitimately looking
1156
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:29.800
after my best interests or not? And this is why
1157
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:31.519
I'm saying, when you go back to like who legitimately
1158
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:33.639
is looking after your best interest, it's not like one hand,
1159
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:36.719
it's your brother. Yeah, And so what if we established
1160
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:40.480
as a society the principle of care? And now that's
1161
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.360
hard because you have to do things that are not
1162
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:44.719
in your best financial interest. You've got to do things
1163
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.199
like don't look good. So like it really puts a
1164
00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:50.079
different mentality. But also, man would be kick assed live
1165
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.239
in that society. Yeah, where you know, if you're gonna
1166
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:54.159
tell me take a drug like you're not hide and shit,
1167
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:56.280
like you're not like you know, so that'd be cool.
1168
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:59.800
So oh yeah, it would be so nice because imagine
1169
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:02.119
all so the stress that it adds to all of us. Yeah,
1170
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:03.159
you know, it's so stressful.
1171
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:03.280
Now.
1172
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:05.559
It's like you go eat a hotcake or whatever, and
1173
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.440
you're like, is this thing that to kill me? Not today, yeah,
1174
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:11.079
but is there something in here that they're strategizing to
1175
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:13.480
kill me thirty years from now? Yeah, you know, to
1176
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.239
create some new disease in me that then I'll need
1177
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:17.440
some new type of medicine.
1178
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:17.559
You know.
1179
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:20.440
It's just kind of yeah, it's a lot of turmoil.
1180
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:25.199
What is your kind of daily dietary strategy? Where do
1181
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:27.880
you stand with your diet? Yeah, and then we'll talk
1182
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:29.199
about like supplements that you like.
1183
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:29.519
Cool.
1184
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.280
Yeah. The principle here is that I am a collection
1185
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.199
of around seventy trillion cells, like Brian Johnson is seventy
1186
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.320
trillion cells. Half like over half of those cells are
1187
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:41.719
alien cells or not even me. There's bacteria. So I'm
1188
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:43.440
like around thirty thirty five trillion cells.
1189
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:44.320
Is that true?
1190
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.039
Yeah? Yeah, you you are a collection of like seventy
1191
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:47.800
trillion cells.
1192
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.760
That makes deal vonn okay, And half of those cells
1193
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.920
are not they're not you, they're not natural born citizens.
1194
00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:56.320
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, they're immigrants. Yeah, So like they're
1195
00:55:56.480 --> 00:56:00.159
bacteria anothers that are hanging out in your equals system.
1196
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:02.840
And so the question is, like, you know, when it
1197
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.280
comes to food, food is just a collection of molecules.
1198
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So you're taking one set of molecules and you put
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them in your molecules and you see, like what happens.
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And so we know, for example, when you take fast
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food those molecules put in your body, it does bad stuff.
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And so with diet, we basically just say, if you
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have to create a list of the very best molecules
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in existence that help the body thrive, what are those molecules.
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So every calorie has a fire for it's life. And
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so that's the first principle. And then two is I
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don't subscribe to any camp like I'm not carnivore, I'm
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not vegan, I'm a vegetarian. I'm not paleo, I'm not keto.
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I don't care. I just want to look at the
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evidence and say, you take a given thing, you put
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in the body, what happens. And so my diet primarily
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consists of a whole bunch of vegetables. I do berries, nuts, seeds, extraverts,
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olive oil. That's primarily what I And so I'm just
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I'm extremely meticulous because I'm trying to become the most
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00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:01.960
don't die per from the world. So but you know,
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if people enjoy eating meat, eat meat, you know, like
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do your thing. If you enjoy eggs, do eggs. Just
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measure your body, Like, measure your body and see if
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you're happy or not if the body is So there's
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what your mind can say, like oh I love blank,
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But measuring your body is a different thing. Your body
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is going to tell is going to speak the truth,
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not your mind. So basically, like you want to measure
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out your body, report out how's inflammation, how's cholesterol, like,
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how's all the different markers.
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So, and when it comes to meat and things like that,
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are they're just you don't like them or you feel
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like they don't work for your body. Was there something
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that you found that you're like, this isn't the best
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for me. So it's actually I mean one is I
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think there's two points. One is, I think you can
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make an evidence based argument that a diet that primarily
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consists of vegetables, berries, nuts, seas, extraverts, olive oil, legomes
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00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:57.880
is one of the best paths to longevity, not the only,
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00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.920
but like a good one. And then on the like
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red meat, there's not a ton of evidence that a
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lot of a ton of longevity evidence that says this
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thing is a longevity producer. Now, but I pull myself
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out of the argument because I don't care about red meat.
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I don't care about the argument. I don't care about
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the disagreement. If somebody wants to eat red meat, I
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support you and eating red meat. Like I'm not gonna
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00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.000
go after red meat. Like I'm not that person. So
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just like, do you pat you on the back while
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00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.400
you have a little you know, you have some burning, Yeah,
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Like do your thing and just measure your body. So
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I try to do that, and I try to then
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share my body biomarkers and say, here's what my body
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00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:37.719
looks like, here's the evidence. If you want to try
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00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:40.639
it out, here you go. But like a lot of
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00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:44.800
so like a couple of things. One is, I love
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extra version olive oil. I think it's one of the
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00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:49.199
best foods you can put in your body.
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Is that a seed oil or not?
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No?
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Okay, yeah, there's like this whole seed oils are bad
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for you.
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I don't.
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I don't buy it.
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You don't.
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No, I think it's fried. It's it's high temp seed oils.
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M But you know, like cold press seed oils, you know,
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like they're fine. So like that whole thing I think
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got away.
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But so you think the seat oil thing is kind
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of out there.
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Yeah yeah, it's you don't want to heat them. That's
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when they become dangerous. But cold press sed oils, the
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evidence says, are fine. But again, like if somebody wants
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to do it, great, like you know, stay in or
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take it. Just measure yourself and try to find the markers.
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Right, checking with yourself, have some sort of like Okay,
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00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:29.320
how do I really feel after having this?
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Yeah?
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00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.440
How does your body report out? Not your mind, not
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00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:35.280
your opinion, not what social media says. Ask your body
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00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.840
to report out with buyomarkers, get a blood draw, look
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00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:40.159
at your markers to say it's the body happier.
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00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:43.679
Sad, right, not each time you but you're saying overtime.
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Overtime, yeah, because those like your body reflects your diets
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00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:51.360
over a period of time. Yeah yeah, but like the
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00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:53.320
easy ones like just avoid there we go.
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00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.639
Yeah, this was just saying cooking oils. Not all cooking
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00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:59.840
oils are created equal. This chart breaks down the linoleic
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01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.320
acid content and different oils, helping you make informed choices
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01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:08.360
for heart health and inflammation control. High linoleic oils like soybeans, sunflour,
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01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:12.079
and corn oil can contribute to inflammation. Healthier options like
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01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.239
coconut olive and grass fed butter off for beneficial fats.
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01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:18.400
But you don't buy into this. I mean, so this
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01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:21.159
is cooking, this is what does this is actually using
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01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.440
it for cooking. Yeah, what does well at higher heats.
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01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.440
So this is kind of what you're saying actually that
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01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.159
some of these, uh may provide less health benefit for you.
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01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.679
But on this though, like this graph, I want to
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01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:38.559
see the toxic compounds that are formed. Otherwise, like I
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01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:39.360
don't know how to read this.
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01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.760
Graph right right, and they'll show stuff like this, I
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01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:44.559
mean even in trap me it just you know they
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01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:46.400
use their red, yellow, green, Yes, exactly.
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01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:48.599
There's a lot of small strategies that can kind of
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01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:50.880
like I want to use. I will see what temperature,
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01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.960
what are the toxic compounds? I'm evaluating what do they form,
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01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.239
like you know, et cetera. Self that that is like
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01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.440
a that'd be a much more quantified approach. But I'd
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01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:00.840
say all right, and now I feel like I have
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01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.840
a good basis for decision making versus like this is
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01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.119
easy to read online. You see red, green, yellow, it's like, okay,
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01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.559
good bad, because anything more than good bad it kind
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01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.039
of gets overwhelming for people.
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01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:14.920
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you say extra version olive oil,
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01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:15.400
that's sort of.
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01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:15.880
Your go to.
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01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:18.920
Yeah, based upon the evidence I, my team and I
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01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:20.840
have reviewed, this is what I would suggest if people
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01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:26.119
want quick takeaways. One is I consume more extra Versi
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01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:28.760
olive oil than any food in my diet. It's fifteen
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01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.000
percent of my daily color can take. But it's we
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01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:35.079
source it ourselves, We test it in the lab ourselves.
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01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:39.960
It's high polyphenol, has the right acids, right constitution. So
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it's a specific kind of olive oil. It's not just
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01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.000
because most olive oil is bullshit, like most of it
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01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:46.840
does nothing and most of a lot of Yeah, so
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01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.920
you need to very so whatever you buy, make sure
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01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:51.599
it has a third party lab test result.
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01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:54.800
Now that's that's a lot like what is there a
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01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:56.760
brand that you tell us? I mean, I know, or
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01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:58.519
do you have this yourself that we can buy it?
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01:01:58.559 --> 01:01:59.159
Do you have your own?
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01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.280
I do it myself. It's like going back to that
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01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:04.800
discussion of care and trust. After playing this game for
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01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:08.400
five years, I don't trust anybody yeah, no one, Like
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01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:10.519
I don't care what they say in marketing, I don't care.
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01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:11.639
I just don't trust anyone.
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01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:12.320
That's how I am.
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01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:14.159
So like, yeah, I want to source it from the
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01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:15.840
farm myself. I want to test it in the third
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01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:17.880
party lap. So I just basically I did this my
1338
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.239
whole self. And then my friends are like I want
1339
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:21.800
this too, and I'm like sure, yeah.
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01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:22.800
I was about to ask you for something and this
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01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:24.199
is but this is one you guys have. It's called
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01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:24.679
snake oil.
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01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:27.599
Yeah, we like it's kind of a troll, yeah, but yeah,
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01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:31.679
it's basically we source from both hemispheres, Southern hemisphere Northern hemisphere.
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01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:33.639
We always have a fresh batch. We did third party testing.
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01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:36.760
It's high polyphenols, so all of and also like I
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01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.320
do a tablespoon with every mill because when you eat food,
1348
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.719
it causes damage to your body. Like a lot of
1349
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:45.400
people don't know that. They think like food is like
1350
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.559
a good thing, which it is, but also there's a
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01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:51.880
there's damage associated. So olive oil lessens that damage, like
1352
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.519
lessen some of the oxidative damage. So that's all oils.
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01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:54.719
One.
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01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.239
Two is I ate a lot of lagomes like lentils
1355
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:02.159
at amamaise beans, a lot of vegetables, but I steam them.
1356
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:06.679
So when you when you char something, whether it be
1357
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:10.800
charring vegetables or meat or something, it builds something called
1358
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:15.519
ages as advanced. I hit it in products, which is
1359
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:18.000
basically just thinking about like junk that builds up in
1360
01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:20.719
your in your in your body. You don't want it.
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01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.920
So I steam vegetables to lower the ages. And then
1362
01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:30.960
I eat a lot of nuts, macadamia nuts, almonds, walnuts.
1363
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:34.920
I like walnuts, Yeah right, those are like the those
1364
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.559
are good ones like I don't eat cashews or peanuts.
1365
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:39.519
Those are like the less valuable.
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01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:44.559
We're drunkards nuts. Yeah.
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01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.599
Then I do a lot of cash.
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Looks like it's fucking looks like it doesn't even know
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01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:51.599
what it's doing.
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01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:56.639
You look at as it looks kind of bisexual, which
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01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.360
is fine. But I'm just saying it looks like it'll
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01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:02.400
sleep over anybody's house to.
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01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:05.599
Me, Yeah, I think it's a good interpretation. I've never
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01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:07.679
heard someone riff on a cashew's appearance, but you know what,
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01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:08.920
I think, you're right, Ah.
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01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:10.840
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have several thoughts I just had. I'd like to express them,
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but I don't, you know, like I still play within
1433
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:23.280
a certain box of like what I can and cannot say.
1434
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:24.880
But it is if do you think it's some of
1435
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:26.840
that's for like business purposes or you just think it's
1436
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:28.519
just like a social way that you learned.
1437
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:33.000
I mean, it's like they're as as weird as I
1438
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:35.280
am and as much elbow room as I've created in
1439
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:39.119
doing crazy shit. There's still some things that I would
1440
01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:42.960
say that would alienate certain people, and so I do
1441
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:46.239
have some some parameters and so but I you know,
1442
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:48.559
if if I wasn't doing this honestly, I do stand
1443
01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:51.320
up comedy really oh yeah, oh yeah. If you're like,
1444
01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:54.079
well that's cool, oh man, it would it would be
1445
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:58.039
It would be so much fun because you basically you're
1446
01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:01.599
trying to put your finger on the thing. Yeah, that's
1447
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:02.960
what I try to do my life. But like, and
1448
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:05.880
so when people the response of course is like how
1449
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:07.880
good you are putting your finger on the thing that
1450
01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:10.440
they already know, right, but you're willing to say it
1451
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:11.800
and you can shring it together.
1452
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:14.079
So yeah, but you're kind of doing that. You're kind
1453
01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:16.319
of like a I mean, it's just not stand up comedy,
1454
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:18.439
but you're just doing it for our health, you know. Yeah,
1455
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:21.439
And I would way rather you're this guy out there
1456
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:25.520
who's like just who's basically riding around being his own
1457
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.640
voodoo doll and shit, and have you out there like
1458
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.760
trying jokes which you may have been very successful at
1459
01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:34.439
as well. But I'm glad you're doing what you are.
1460
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:36.960
Maybe you know, maybe it'd be a side thing or
1461
01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:39.880
next life. But also some people might not even take
1462
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:41.840
you as seriously. You know, one night I watched John
1463
01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:43.840
Mayer he got up into a stand up comedy. Yeah,
1464
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.079
and he's like, man, I love stand up comedy. I
1465
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:47.520
would have loved to have been a stand up comedian.
1466
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:50.199
He goes, but now I'm so known for being what
1467
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:55.239
I am that I can't even be this because it
1468
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:57.760
just people wouldn't accept it or wouldn't give you the
1469
01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:02.119
same walkway into their lives as as they would knowing
1470
01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:03.119
I'm already John May.
1471
01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:05.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you like I would love to take
1472
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:08.479
on that challenge. And man, I would like you could
1473
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:10.439
have so many great jokes. I want to make fun
1474
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:15.000
of myself, like I'm so weird, right of course you.
1475
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:17.640
Are, dude, you probably you probably mightn't even have any
1476
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.920
blood in your body. Dude, you could go to a
1477
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.520
blood draw and they just keep drawing and drawing the
1478
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:26.680
deceit there, nurses are coming out like we don't know
1479
01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:29.800
you know? I mean, oh, dude, I bet if you
1480
01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:31.520
have you ever been on Kill Tony? Have you been
1481
01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:32.000
on that show?
1482
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:32.520
Oh?
1483
01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:32.760
Bro?
1484
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:36.119
If you I wonder if we maybe next time I
1485
01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:37.640
go in there, you and me could go he's this?
1486
01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:38.479
Have you ever seen it?
1487
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:38.840
No?
1488
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:41.439
It's this It's like the Tonight Show now, but they
1489
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:45.520
do it down in Austin and it's uh And dude,
1490
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:47.760
I bet people would write some jokes. Bro, it would
1491
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:49.840
be so it'd be solid fun.
1492
01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:51.920
I would love to this is it?
1493
01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:54.880
It's so much fun. Bro, every week they have it.
1494
01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:57.279
You would be the best on there. Dude.
1495
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:03.199
I went to a couple roast meat shows and it's
1496
01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:03.640
pretty good.
1497
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:04.039
Yeah.
1498
01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:06.560
Yeah, Oh, I really enjoy people making fun of me.
1499
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:07.319
It's fun.
1500
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:09.000
My buddy Adam Hunter does. I used to do a
1501
01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:10.680
lot of those. I know he's one of the best
1502
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:13.640
at it. But Tony Hinchcliff is really great at itude
1503
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:17.319
and that's his show, killed Tony. Okay, were there other
1504
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:19.640
things you were gonna tell us about? So some other
1505
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:22.520
hell stuff? You said that your own and you also
1506
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:24.880
have a and I'm not pushing your products here, but
1507
01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:26.840
I was given a gift of one of your products
1508
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.159
and I haven't taken it before. And it's a blueprint
1509
01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:30.359
protein powder.
1510
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:30.960
Yeah.
1511
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:33.520
Is it a protein powder? Is it a daily powder?
1512
01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:35.000
What is it? Yeah?
1513
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:35.399
Protein?
1514
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:38.159
Okay, it's a protein powder. And a lot of times
1515
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:39.800
you hear that supplements and stuff like that. A lot
1516
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:41.600
of that stuff just comes out in your urine, Like
1517
01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:45.199
what makes this thing any different? Or is it any different?
1518
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:45.720
Yeah?
1519
01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:48.560
So the the problem I was trying to solve is
1520
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:51.720
I need to eat every day somehow, Yeah, and I
1521
01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:53.520
need a certain amount of protein, certain met a fat,
1522
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:55.680
And so when I go out in the world, I'm like,
1523
01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:56.479
where am I gonna buy it?
1524
01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:58.439
Who do I trust? No one?
1525
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:00.600
Yeah, okay, so I got to manufacture this. So basically,
1526
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:03.920
like we put together. I eat everything my company makes
1527
01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:05.640
because I trust it. I I like, you know, I
1528
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.199
worked as a in high school. I worked at a restaurant.
1529
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:12.119
I was and I saw the back kitchen operations and
1530
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:15.319
I was like, damn, I'm never eating at the restaurant
1531
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:19.479
ever again. Right, Like, once you see it, it's it's horrifying.
1532
01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:20.479
Yeah.
1533
01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:22.520
Well, it's crazy when you think you at a restaurant
1534
01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:25.119
that you think that the people in the back are
1535
01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:29.439
doing their best. Ye A lot of times you're like,
1536
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:31.960
you'll go eat and then I'll go work at a restaurant.
1537
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:33.840
So it's like then I'm just the person in the back.
1538
01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:37.359
Yeah. And like the whole idea of like something it's
1539
01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:40.199
like competent things going on behind the scenes that like
1540
01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:42.479
you can trust like no, no breaks it. So yes,
1541
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:45.359
like blueprint, I see exactly what happens. That's what I
1542
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.640
want to eat. So yeah, protein I basically need like
1543
01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:49.319
one hundred and thirty grams a day, and so I
1544
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:51.640
have to get it from somewhere. So yeah, we same thing, use,
1545
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.640
we source it, We third party test it. You know,
1546
01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:57.119
we look at all the the nutrients and the chemicals
1547
01:11:57.119 --> 01:12:00.359
and the toxins. So yeah, so the protein is one
1548
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:02.399
of the things we built and so and.
1549
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:04.199
What kind of protein powder do you recommend? I take
1550
01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:06.560
a plant protein right now? That's kind of what I
1551
01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:10.560
feel like works best with my system. But what is
1552
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:12.600
there a type of because you hear different ones and
1553
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:14.640
new ones pop out and then there's like the one
1554
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:15.920
you're supposed to take at night.
1555
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.039
Like you, what has your experience been like with protein powder.
1556
01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:23.840
We've been using pea and hemp. We started using pumpkin and.
1557
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.800
Oh pumpkin got somethings pump Yeah, yeah, so there's there's
1558
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:31.079
it should be obvious pumpkin as muscles, dude, exactly.
1559
01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:33.840
You look at fucking flexing in in the field, right,
1560
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:39.279
Who's who's it defined? Yeah? We yes, we did that,
1561
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:42.199
but you know like p doesn't mix very well though, Yeah,
1562
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:43.960
that's why. So that's why we do the hemp combo.
1563
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:45.279
Okay, yeah, and it helps it.
1564
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:47.439
It makes it fluffy and nice.
1565
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.039
Because pea someoness. I'll get it in a smoothi or
1566
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:50.960
something and you can't even drink it because it's not
1567
01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:52.000
the solution.
1568
01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:53.800
Is it liquid enough?
1569
01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:55.640
Yeah, So we do that. But people there's like this
1570
01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:59.279
online thing where people say that plant based proteins are
1571
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:02.520
higher in heavy metals, right because there's you can test it.
1572
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:04.960
The issue with that is that the whole heavy metal
1573
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.880
discussion is so fucked up because we test all my foods.
1574
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:10.119
You can go to the store and get a carrot
1575
01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:13.239
and test that for heavy metals. It's high and heavy metals.
1576
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:17.319
And so the only reason why it's been sensational around
1577
01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:20.199
plant based proteins with toxins is because it's packaged food
1578
01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:23.199
you can easily measure, but it's harder to measure fresh food.
1579
01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:26.279
People don't do the work. So, like we've learned, toxins
1580
01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:29.960
are everywhere in all foods. And so for example, I'll
1581
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:32.920
give you one where I was eating these lentils and
1582
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.760
the test came back high, and so like why are
1583
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:38.039
lentils high and heavy metals? Like, what's going on there?
1584
01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:40.159
So we got a hold of the company and we're like,
1585
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:42.880
what's what's your manufacturing process? They said, actually, we use
1586
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:48.319
human sludge as our fertilization. So they're taking like duty
1587
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:50.880
or whatever. Yeah, they're taking they're taking human shit because
1588
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:54.760
it's like a selling it. So if they're using human
1589
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.159
shit to fertilize, and human shit has heavy metals in it,
1590
01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:00.359
so then recycles back into the to the food. And
1591
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:02.680
so we've been this is this is why I make
1592
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.319
this ship because I shouldn't say stuff. So we we
1593
01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:07.520
want to we want to source our own food, we
1594
01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:09.199
want to test it. I want to know what to
1595
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:11.640
put in my body. And so, uh, we just I've
1596
01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:13.960
learned way too much. I'm like, I'm so jaded now.
1597
01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:16.560
So the lentils, they were using human shit on their
1598
01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:18.520
crops and it was getting into the lentils.
1599
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:21.000
Well that's why, because otherwise, if you think about it,
1600
01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:25.239
you're like, what foods naturally have high levels of blank right,
1601
01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:28.079
or like cocoa has high levels of heavy metals, Like
1602
01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:30.279
it has a lot of high levels of cabium naturally,
1603
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:33.279
But then people test that that I cured the brand rankings,
1604
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:36.800
but then glyphile state can also be present. And so
1605
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:40.159
we found that the brand had the lowest levels of cabium,
1606
01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:42.520
had the highest levels of gliphl sate by like ten x,
1607
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.600
they had an oat filler, so it was in the oats.
1608
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:47.800
And so this is the thing is like you once
1609
01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:51.520
you actually take a topic and you actually slice it
1610
01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:55.319
up to capture the nuance, it's just the conversation online
1611
01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:59.359
is almost never right. Like when the things that drand
1612
01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:02.840
that gain trendy popularity, it's almost always wrong.
1613
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:04.680
And when you said that, some of it almost as
1614
01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:08.279
negligible then because at a certain point, just overall, we
1615
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.439
are in a very tough spot with with what is
1616
01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:12.600
in our foods, no matter one.
1617
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:15.319
Like that's what I'm saying, Like it is, I don't
1618
01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.159
people are gonna feel stressed about those conversations. I want
1619
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:19.800
to like make sure we close. I want to agree,
1620
01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:21.239
I want to I want to give like a few
1621
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:24.279
tips where people can regain control of their life. Okay,
1622
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:26.239
because I don't want to terrify. I know it's terrifying.
1623
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:28.000
Well, one of the things that I even I think
1624
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.640
you've already done is that's why you're saying, like, Okay,
1625
01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:33.319
you may have this diet. If you have an olive
1626
01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:35.960
olive oil that you take when you're eating that it
1627
01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:38.880
will lessen the effects of your diet on your system
1628
01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:41.000
at the time. So and those are the types of
1629
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:43.359
things that are are kind of important. It's like, okay, well,
1630
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:45.359
I know that even if some stuff I know is
1631
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.000
going to be not great for me, how do I
1632
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:50.920
at least just mitigate what's going on right while our
1633
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:56.560
science hopefully gets you know, uncompromised, while our food system
1634
01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:58.640
hopefully gets uncompromised and we're able to get back into
1635
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:01.439
a better place. But you were saying, there are some
1636
01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:02.159
things you want them.
1637
01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:02.520
To take away.
1638
01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:07.840
Yeah, okay, cool. So here's like, in short, this list
1639
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:11.920
of things will hopefully help people feel empowered and not anxious.
1640
01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:14.960
So yes, there's like all kinds of shit to be
1641
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.399
aware of, but if you focus on these things. So
1642
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:19.800
one is I've learned out of all the things I've
1643
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:23.319
measured out, I literally have like billions of data points
1644
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:25.560
on my body over the past five years. If you
1645
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.279
distill that and say how many are useful signal probably
1646
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:30.560
a few hundred million. But the largest data set in
1647
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:34.520
human history. The thing I care about the most is
1648
01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:38.359
what is my heart rate before bed? It is like
1649
01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:41.439
the most useful biomarker, and it's so easy because its free.
1650
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:43.199
So if you have a wearable, you can just pull
1651
01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:45.079
up your phone see if you're with your market. So
1652
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.439
you lay it on your bed, take a few deep breaths,
1653
01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:50.840
and you calm yourself down and then you see a number.
1654
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:53.520
Let's say it's like fifty five beats a minute or sixty.
1655
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:56.600
Your goal in life now is to lower your heart rate.
1656
01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:58.520
So you say you start off at sixty, in a
1657
01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:00.640
month from now, be at fifty five. And so the
1658
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.439
way you do that one is you have your final
1659
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:06.960
meal of the day four hours before bed. Yeah I know,
1660
01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:07.680
I know, I hear you.
1661
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:08.840
And no snacks.
1662
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:12.000
No, it's not, no food. So if your bedtime to ten,
1663
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.640
at six pm, you're done. It's a great chart. So
1664
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:19.000
these are the things. So when you increase your heart
1665
01:17:19.039 --> 01:17:22.520
rate before bed, it wrecks your sleep. Yes, when you
1666
01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:26.960
don't sleep well, your willpower falls off a cliff. So
1667
01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:30.520
the next morning, when you're trying to decide to eat
1668
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:32.960
the croissant or the donut for breakfast or not, if
1669
01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.760
you haven't slept well, you're like ninety percent more likely
1670
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:38.640
to eat the donut or the carssant. If you slept well,
1671
01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:40.760
you have a little juice in the system. You're like,
1672
01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:42.479
you know what, No, it's not good for me, and
1673
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:45.880
I'll be an exercise, which then also increases your willpower.
1674
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:49.239
So you get this really positive loop. So it all
1675
01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:53.399
starts to sleep, and sleep is determined by your heart rate.
1676
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:56.960
So for example, like so four hours for bed, that
1677
01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.159
is going to lower. So when you have that distance,
1678
01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:03.159
it'll allows your body to digest the food. It allows
1679
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:04.840
your body to say, I'm going to get ready for bed,
1680
01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:09.079
so it lowers your body temperature, lowers cortisol, increases melatonin,
1681
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:11.079
so your body is in a much better state to
1682
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:13.439
go to sleep and stay in deep sleep. The second
1683
01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:17.119
thing is your phone needs to be off an hour
1684
01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:21.279
before bed. You can't be in bed scrolling, working, texting.
1685
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.399
You need this separation because your body the phone in
1686
01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:28.640
hand is going to increase your cortisol, increase your sympathetic activation,
1687
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:31.000
You'll be more anxious, and so you need an hour
1688
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:33.720
of separation instead of the phone. Go for a walk,
1689
01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:37.039
talk to a friend, hang out like breathwork, meditation, read
1690
01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:39.399
a book like anything, but be on your phone that
1691
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:42.239
will lower your heart rate. And there's other small things
1692
01:18:42.399 --> 01:18:46.760
like I do this nighttime discussion where I go to
1693
01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:49.520
a bed at eight thirty at seven thirty pm evening,
1694
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:52.520
or sleep Brian comes out on duty and sleep Brian
1695
01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:55.319
is a version of me that defends my sleep. And
1696
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:59.239
so all the Brian's line up, so Ambitious Brian lines up.
1697
01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:02.000
He's always the first one, and he's like, I got
1698
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:04.720
a fucking banger idea, right, a brand new thing we're
1699
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:08.680
gonna do and sleep Brian says, we see you, Ambitious Brian, like,
1700
01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:12.039
we're doing a good job in life, keep out of man. Also,
1701
01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:14.359
we're getting ready for bed, so we're gonna write down
1702
01:19:14.359 --> 01:19:16.640
your idea and then tomorrow we'll come back to it.
1703
01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:19.319
And Ambitious Brian's like, are you sure? And sleep Brian's
1704
01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:21.279
like yeah, yeah, we got you. So then he walk
1705
01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:23.600
goes away. Then Anxious Brian shows up and he's like, yo,
1706
01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:26.600
today when you're a theo, you said that thing and
1707
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:28.920
you were a jackass to him, right, It's like, oh,
1708
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:32.319
thank you, Anxious Brian, great self awareness, appreciate you. We're
1709
01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:33.960
gonna write that down we're gonna hit THEO up tomorrow.
1710
01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:36.039
Make sure we're all good. And they like all the
1711
01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:39.560
Brian's ligned up, and so you know this sleeping Brian
1712
01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:45.000
ever show up. He's like, hey, stay up all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude,
1713
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:47.479
this Brian is freaking leave me alone, Brian.
1714
01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:47.800
Yeah.
1715
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:49.640
And so you'll see this like whether you do this
1716
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:53.439
or something else. The way this manifests is if you
1717
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:56.119
don't do this, you put your head on the pillow
1718
01:19:56.760 --> 01:19:59.319
and then you loop right like you have these thoughts
1719
01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:02.000
and just like go, go and go into the same
1720
01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:05.079
thoughts and then you finally fall asleep. You wake up
1721
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:08.119
three hours later that they are again looping, and so
1722
01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:10.840
they cause your heart rate to go up, which causes
1723
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:13.800
your sleep go down, which crashes your willpower, which crashes
1724
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:18.159
everything else. So by doing this like internal harvesting, like
1725
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:21.199
you're trying to clean up, you're lowering your heart rate,
1726
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:24.159
you're settling yourself down, you're getting to some point of reconciliation.
1727
01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:27.399
So now you've not eaten for four hours, you've got
1728
01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:30.760
off your phone, and you've got some kind of internal balance.
1729
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:34.239
Now you're ready to think, I can put my head
1730
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.880
on the pillow and have a decent shot at a
1731
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:39.960
banger night sleep, and so basically built my entire life
1732
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:42.600
around sleep. Now, if you focus on that, it's just
1733
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:47.079
like so much of life is just not doing bad shit.
1734
01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:51.359
It's like what we talked about before of like whether
1735
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:54.840
you're happy or not in life is how much you're
1736
01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:59.199
doing which you actually don't want to do. Yeah, and
1737
01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:01.199
then like all the other like all these little things
1738
01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:02.800
about this and that, like don't worry about it yet.
1739
01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:06.000
Just get sleep in place. Get these basic habits in place.
1740
01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:08.199
You're sleeping gonna make you feel great. And once you
1741
01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:10.920
get that in a steady place, you can start layering
1742
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:14.159
on good habits. But if you take on too many things,
1743
01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:17.039
you'll feel overwhelmed. Yeah, So I get that in place.
1744
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:21.279
That's like the winner, dude. It's like there's nothing better
1745
01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:26.800
than when you like, I'm going to sleep, man.
1746
01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:28.920
Ill and what do you say?
1747
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:29.560
How's your sleep?
1748
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:31.560
My sleep's okay, it's not that great.
1749
01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:33.560
A lot of times that stay up editing, but it's
1750
01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:36.680
But I also have gotten trapped into a late pattern.
1751
01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:38.600
So it's like I could get up earlier. It's just
1752
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.000
like I have to line it up earlier. I could
1753
01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:44.560
get up earlier, get get rid of like the working out,
1754
01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:48.960
the meditation. You know, I'll do like some zoom like recovery,
1755
01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:52.840
meeting stuff and u and then all that's out of
1756
01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:56.319
my head and now the rest of my day feels more.
1757
01:21:56.520 --> 01:21:59.319
It feels easier no matter what I'm doing, as opposed
1758
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:01.439
to these things being later in the day and that
1759
01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:03.680
I still have to do them. That's one of the
1760
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:07.279
biggest traps I set myself up up for is procrastinating
1761
01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:09.520
like the toughest things right out of the gate, and
1762
01:22:09.600 --> 01:22:11.279
they even get easier over time.
1763
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:12.560
Yeah, that's right.
1764
01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:14.439
But like today, I got off by sauna.
1765
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:15.880
I do sauna a lot. That is one thing that
1766
01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:21.119
I like doing. It just makes me feel activated. And
1767
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:23.079
not everybody can have a sauna at home, you know.
1768
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:24.800
I don't have like a very fancy when there's a
1769
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:28.520
lot of different affordable ones actually, but that's something that
1770
01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:31.039
I notice has helped me a lot.
1771
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:34.479
Are you icing your boys in the sauna? Am I
1772
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:37.880
sing my body, your boys, my nuts? Yeah, it's a
1773
01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:38.359
good idea.
1774
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:40.600
You ice them in the sauna? Yeah? Whoa, whoa, what
1775
01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:41.039
do you mean?
1776
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:45.760
Yeah? Yeah, So we did an experiment so when the
1777
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:50.479
testicles get warm, it has all these negative consequences like,
1778
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:55.520
oh it it destroys your fertility markers and so yep,
1779
01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:57.359
so what you want. What you can do is on Amazon,
1780
01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:01.359
you can buy like eight dollars ice packs. They're BPA free,
1781
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:05.119
non toxic. Put them in the freezer, and then just
1782
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:07.680
slide them underneath your cotton you still wear cotton underwear
1783
01:23:07.880 --> 01:23:10.720
and caught shorts. Put them in between the underwear and
1784
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:12.880
the shorts and just have them there for the entire
1785
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.640
session of the sauna session. But we did this. I
1786
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:21.199
did the most measured sauna experiment in history. We measured
1787
01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:23.520
like two hundred and fifty Buyo markers, and we did
1788
01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:26.800
ice on my chestles and we took it off and
1789
01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.279
an annihilated of my fertility markers. Now a lot of
1790
01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:31.119
people will say, like, I don't care about that because
1791
01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:32.800
I'm not trying to get pregnant or whatever. But it
1792
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.079
has a whole bunch of negative feedback loop, Like it's
1793
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:37.319
a negativeeel. You don't want to annihilate them. You want
1794
01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:39.319
good fertilion markers even if you're trying to.
1795
01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:41.079
Have a baby. Hey, you want your brain to feel
1796
01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:43.640
like you're pot Like just a lot read a roll.
1797
01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:45.560
Yeah, if your brain starts feeling like, oh, these nuts
1798
01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:47.319
are useless or whatever, your brains like them, what am
1799
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:47.960
I sticking around for?
1800
01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:49.720
Yeah? Yeah, what's my Yeah, my job exactly.
1801
01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:51.800
Dang dude, Now what if you just pour a little
1802
01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:53.560
bit of cold water on your nuts every now and then?
1803
01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:54.920
Is that you think that'd be? Okay?
1804
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:56.760
I mean you could, but you got to keep the
1805
01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.199
water cold. It's got to be make sure you keep
1806
01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:02.319
the temperature. Would you get temptare low? Like whatever, whatever
1807
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:04.560
you do, and then after you do it, you know,
1808
01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:08.239
just clean it with like hydrot peroxide or something, you know,
1809
01:24:08.399 --> 01:24:10.279
so you and then put it back in the freezer.
1810
01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:13.520
But yeah, I know it's like it's uncomfortable to do
1811
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:15.399
it socially, Like you go out to like a public
1812
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:17.960
place and it's like, who's the weird person putting, you know,
1813
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:20.159
the ice pack on their balls? You know, but like
1814
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:24.119
it legit is. It's good science and it's a good practice.
1815
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:25.039
So keeping them cool.
1816
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:26.479
Even if you had to go to the water to
1817
01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:29.079
go to the ice machine, get your little sack ice
1818
01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:29.920
and just set them on there.
1819
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:31.600
While you're in there, work anything you can do to
1820
01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:33.560
keep your your ice. Yah, Tescottle cold.
1821
01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:35.359
Wow, is this sauna?
1822
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:37.399
Is there a certain type of sauna that you really
1823
01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:40.920
recommend or something that works differently? There's ones now, like
1824
01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:43.560
actually was thinking about getting like an infrared panel put
1825
01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:45.680
into my sauna. Do you find that there's any help
1826
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:47.319
with that sort of thing? I know that's kind of
1827
01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:48.239
two different questions.
1828
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:48.560
Yeah.
1829
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:53.119
The the best evidence is with a dry sauna, and
1830
01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:57.359
so there's wet dry and infrared and wet. The problem
1831
01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:00.600
is it heats up your skin faster than you're core temperature.
1832
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:03.239
You try to get your core temperature up so dry
1833
01:25:03.359 --> 01:25:05.920
so on it in an infrared rarely hits the temperature
1834
01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:08.960
levels you want. So the best evidence is you want
1835
01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.479
to be between one hundred and seventy four fahrenheit two
1836
01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:15.279
hundred and twelve fahrenheit. Oh my god, that's that's your window,
1837
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:17.840
and then you want to so what So what we're
1838
01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:21.039
doing now is one of the primary benefits of the
1839
01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:24.000
sauna is when you go in there your core body temperature,
1840
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:26.079
when it gets to about one hundred and two degrees fahrenheit,
1841
01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:29.840
it triggers the release of heat shock proteins. So these
1842
01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:34.000
are like little machines, protein machines that get spun up
1843
01:25:34.199 --> 01:25:36.880
and they go around and fix it. They fix broken proteins,
1844
01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.359
miss philaprodions. Yeah, like they're like flooding your body, doing
1845
01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:43.439
good stuff, but it only gets triggered when your core
1846
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:45.880
body temperature hits a certain level and so if you're
1847
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:49.079
not hot enough to sauna sore. But they're very hard
1848
01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:51.640
to measure. So we're currently setting up a lab, a
1849
01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:53.880
wet lab in my house. We can measure this. We're
1850
01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:56.199
going to try to measure my heat shock protein release
1851
01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:00.479
on various temperatures, various durations. So what we've been looking
1852
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:03.600
because I've been doing core temperature out of my ear lately,
1853
01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:07.760
but you can't. The gold standard measurement is rectal. But
1854
01:26:07.880 --> 01:26:09.560
you've got to do that. You've got to like be
1855
01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:13.439
inside the ass for two to three minutes with a
1856
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:14.159
long probe.
1857
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:17.199
That's farm work.
1858
01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:20.680
Yeah, so I'm struggling with that one. Like I do,
1859
01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:22.720
I do, I do a lot of stuff, But like man,
1860
01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:24.720
I was like, guys, can we find an alternative way
1861
01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:27.000
of doing this? So we're gonna do blood. We're going
1862
01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:29.520
to measure heat shock protein released because that's like the good,
1863
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:32.600
goodie stuff. But yeah, yeah, basically try sauna somewhere between
1864
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:34.000
one hundred and twenty four and to twelve fair and
1865
01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:37.840
hype for twenty minutes is like a good starting point.
1866
01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:40.920
And then ice on the boys.
1867
01:26:41.319 --> 01:26:43.560
I send them boys while you're in there, and you
1868
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:45.239
want to stay in that sauna for you said for
1869
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:48.079
fifteen to twenty minutes at above one hundred and seventy degrees.
1870
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:50.800
Yeah, that's like a good approximation. That's where the evidence
1871
01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:53.560
is of like if you're in that range, you're getting
1872
01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:56.880
some benefit. I'm trying to go for like max max benefit,
1873
01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:58.800
but like if you're in that temperature range for that
1874
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:00.880
duration of time, good benefit. Wow.
1875
01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:02.920
That's fascinating, dude.
1876
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:07.079
Yeah, because and my my stepsister just got me a
1877
01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:09.600
sauna hat to wearing the sauna too, So.
1878
01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:11.560
Let's go yet to the heat will dry out your scalp.
1879
01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:13.800
Yeah, yeah, it just seems kind of nice too, if
1880
01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:15.239
you know, it's nice to have a little bit of
1881
01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:16.920
like a fashion accouterment into there.
1882
01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.359
Kind of it's made of hemp hemp material.
1883
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:20.920
Yeah, probably something like that. Yeah.
1884
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:22.680
One thing, we're trying to make an underwear that's just
1885
01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:24.960
all cotton, right, and it's American cotton. One of the
1886
01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:28.239
things I noticed too on underwear, the night band, sometimes
1887
01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:30.439
the waistband. It's too taugh and it makes you a
1888
01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:31.039
peel all night.
1889
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:31.319
Yeah.
1890
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:33.479
Yeah, so it's like you gotta wake up an extra
1891
01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:35.640
time or sometimes two, Like if I wear some of
1892
01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:38.520
these ones that are really constricting, I'm like, yeah, so
1893
01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:40.239
I don't know. I've just been trying to think about
1894
01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:43.880
making a decent pair of ball of breeches. Bruh, something
1895
01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:44.720
to hide your cock.
1896
01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:47.399
Why you're sleeping?
1897
01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:48.159
I hear you.
1898
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:53.840
Yeah, dude, it's crazy. I saw that you and viral
1899
01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:58.159
not logo for posting. It was like a nighttime erection data.
1900
01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:01.199
Take me down at h take me down at Wiener
1901
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:03.680
Road for a secon. Yeah, Brian, what do you what
1902
01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:06.279
do you see your nighttime erection data from my nineteen
1903
01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:07.000
year old son?
1904
01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:08.079
Yeah?
1905
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And this is definitely I mean, that's one way to
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build up as bonding as bonding, dude. Nighttime erection data
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01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:18.920
for my nine year old son, uh town was Johnson
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and me. His duration is two minutes longer than mine.
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Wow. Yeah.
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Uh raise children to stand tall, be firm, and be upright.
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That's hilarious. Yeah, I notice you and your son, do you?
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He gets involved in a lot of this, right.
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Yeah, he's so cool. He's such a cool cat. He Uh,
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he's my second child, and he and I are just
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best friends. We roll and man like where like we're
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just twins. Like we just like you know with Kate Man.
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I love this kid so much. We have so much
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fun together.
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Yeap, what makes him so specialty? I mean, it's your son,
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so that's one thing. He there, he is, I mean
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that's cool.
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He's in shape. Huh.
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Who who would do this with their dad?
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It's a good dude.
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01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:12.199
That's actually the perfect answer. Maybe Voldemort's son or whatever. Yeah,
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I'm just I'm just jing tow is no, but no,
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you're right, who would be like, yeah, who would do
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anything with their dad?
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Look at like the lower left, he's I have my
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shirt off. Yeah, he's hugging me like we're doing a
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shirtless skin to skin photo shoot? Like what father son does?
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That seems pretty tribal.
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Yeah, I mean he's he's he's like and so like
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we're there. We did the blood travel so he gave
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me his plasma. I gave my dad my plasma. We
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did like a tryenericial thing and is that was there
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01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:43.640
any helpful stuff? In that. Yeah, so my this the
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01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:45.640
organ behind that is. My dad called me in a
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panic and he said, like, I he's I just wrote
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01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:52.399
this thing for work. I stepped away from my desk,
1941
01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:55.760
came back to it. It was gibberish. He's like, I'm
1942
01:29:56.319 --> 01:29:59.479
I'm freaking out. And so that day my team and
1943
01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:02.159
I had a ca all about plasma exchanges, like the
1944
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idea of you like there was a study where a
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old mouse and a young mouse were sewed together and
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they shared a circulatory system. The old mouse got young
1947
01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:13.279
thee yeah, like they shared a system. That's kind of
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a shit experience, a shitty mouse, right, like to be
1949
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:17.880
that mouse in that experiment, but the old mouse got younger.
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And so there was this idea like what's happening, right,
1951
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:25.760
could you replicate the results there by taking plasma that
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01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:28.880
is youthful and given to someone that is older. And
1953
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.479
so my eyes like, dad, if you want to do this,
1954
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I'm happy to give you my plasma, like you know,
1955
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because there were some studies being shaped.
1956
01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:37.880
Yeah, and the siphoned Talmage and.
1957
01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:42.960
So he heard he heard me Talmadge heard is talking
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01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.840
about it. He's like, hey, like, if you want me
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in like I'm I'm happy to be in I'm like you, guys,
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this is perfect. That try generational plasma exchange.
1961
01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:52.079
That shit's dope, dude.
1962
01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:54.840
Yeah, so we did it, and he's interesting. My dad
1963
01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:57.800
his speed of aging, it's like there's a clock inside
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your body of how fast and how slow you're aging.
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01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:02.439
His speed of aging dropped by the equivalent of twenty
1966
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:06.560
five years, so his body had a traumatic reduction of
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01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:08.720
how fast it was aging from getting my plasma.
1968
01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:10.760
How are you able to quantify that?
1969
01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:14.239
U looking at something called DNA methylation, so by your
1970
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:17.800
body basically has these chemical signatures of like what does
1971
01:31:17.840 --> 01:31:19.560
your body look like a thirteen year old, a twenty
1972
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:21.119
year old, a forty five year old. It's like an
1973
01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:23.880
emergent science. So what it's like metadata almost, yeah, exactly,
1974
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.159
and so like it's a new area of science. It's
1975
01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:28.439
still emerging. It's not yet gold standard, so like you know,
1976
01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:32.359
it's not like the like bloodwork as a gold standard marker.
1977
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:36.359
But this is cool, and so yeah, my dad's metadata
1978
01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:40.640
changed dramatically. My biomarkers didn't. So when when my son
1979
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:43.520
Talmage gave me his plasma, my bio markers did not change,
1980
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:47.359
which makes sense because my biomarkers are already like his,
1981
01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:50.199
we're already of comparable health. But my dads are not
1982
01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:53.279
as good as mine. So yeah, that was the behind that.
1983
01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:55.640
So like my son, yeah, like he that's cool. Yeah,
1984
01:31:55.680 --> 01:31:58.079
but like he's he's he's a yes and guy.
1985
01:31:58.840 --> 01:31:59.399
Oh nice.
1986
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.159
So like anything I say, anything I do is always
1987
01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:04.239
like dad, Yeah, And you know, like when I did
1988
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:07.119
the livestream mushrooms, He's like, I'm in and I want
1989
01:32:07.159 --> 01:32:08.640
to hang out with you, and so he's just like
1990
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:09.960
he's such a cool dude.
1991
01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:13.399
I want to talk about the mushroom stuff. But take
1992
01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:14.600
me back to the erections.
1993
01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:18.039
Uh what? And that's the only time I'll ever say that.
1994
01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:24.760
Probably it's like the time you were gay. Everyone's a
1995
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:25.359
little gay for.
1996
01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:27.960
One, Oh dude, people's all a little bit gay. Bro,
1997
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:31.359
you fucking tickle anybody. If you tickle somebody hard enough
1998
01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:35.439
to admit it. What did you notice about erections?
1999
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:35.680
Yeah?
2000
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:37.159
What did you guys find out here? Because you and
2001
01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:39.960
your son both took this, is it a test? What
2002
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:41.159
do you guys do to study it?
2003
01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:45.279
Yeah? So the idea behind this is how do you
2004
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:48.520
tell if somebody is in good health? You can like
2005
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:50.239
look you can look at them. It's like, what is
2006
01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:52.520
the skin quality? Like, what are their muscles? Are they
2007
01:32:52.560 --> 01:32:57.000
aerobically fit. It turns out that nighttime erections for men
2008
01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:01.279
is a major marker for health, and that if a
2009
01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:03.760
man is not having erections at night when he's asleep,
2010
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:08.159
it's representative of much larger problems in the body. But
2011
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:11.279
before we did this, nobody talked about this idea. But
2012
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:14.520
every night you go to bed, uh, your body goes
2013
01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:17.640
to a natural process of erection cycles. So men have
2014
01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:21.520
between three and five erections every single night. It's not sexual.
2015
01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:25.079
Your body is just like pulsing the system. Females have
2016
01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:28.319
the same thing, So females also have these arousal cycles.
2017
01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:30.319
There are clitarter us and gorges of they, you know,
2018
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:33.840
so you can we can measure a man's erections. So
2019
01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:35.680
do we have this little device you put on the
2020
01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:37.800
base of the penis and you go to sleep. You
2021
01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:39.479
think it's annoying, but it's actually fine. You don't even
2022
01:33:39.520 --> 01:33:41.199
feel it, and you wake up in the morning and
2023
01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:43.319
it gives you a readout how many erections you had,
2024
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:46.399
how long they were, and then the strength the erections
2025
01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:49.680
and what it's basically doing. Is it's telling you the
2026
01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:53.720
health of your cardiovascular system, your psychological health, and your
2027
01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:57.319
physiological health. So if you if your dick is broken,
2028
01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:00.520
something else is broken about you. And you can also
2029
01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:03.319
use it as age marker because as you age, like
2030
01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:05.720
a healthy eighteen year old will have something like two
2031
01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:09.239
and a half hours of nighttime erections, and by the
2032
01:34:09.319 --> 01:34:11.319
time you get to seventy years old, it's down to
2033
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.319
like fifty one minutes, So it declines with age. POPA
2034
01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:18.119
still rock in there, Yeah, so mine are my best
2035
01:34:18.319 --> 01:34:21.960
is like three hours and fifty two minutes. Yeah, so
2036
01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:26.079
I'm at the ninety nine point nine percentile for night
2037
01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:28.119
time directions. And this is a cool marker because like
2038
01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:30.920
people can look at me and say, like, bro, you
2039
01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:33.479
still look forty eight. I don't think any of your
2040
01:34:33.479 --> 01:34:37.640
shit's working. And the way to counteract that is when
2041
01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:40.640
you go to bed, your body just doesn't Like I
2042
01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:42.399
can't change if I have erections that I don't know,
2043
01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:44.960
I can't think about having sex like your body just
2044
01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:47.279
does it. So it basically is a question of, like,
2045
01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:51.920
my body is behaving like an eighteen year old better
2046
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:53.760
than an average eighteen year old. Yeah, And so that's
2047
01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:56.640
like a good marker of like is my stuff working
2048
01:34:56.760 --> 01:34:59.600
or not? Yeah, like so that's all this whole I
2049
01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:01.279
do is. Actually I was teaching my son, like I
2050
01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:03.520
was like, hey, man, how are you doing, because as
2051
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:05.159
a good father, woul want his son to be healthy,
2052
01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:08.039
and he's like, I want to measure it. So so
2053
01:35:08.119 --> 01:35:09.880
he's a very healthy eighteen year old, and I was
2054
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:11.840
trying to demonstrate that. You know, I'm forty eight years old,
2055
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:17.840
he's he's twenty. Our bodies basically are behaving the same.
2056
01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:21.720
So yeah, people like you definitely had a lot to
2057
01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:22.640
say about this post.
2058
01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:25.720
Yeah, well it's somebody. He's pretty fascinating. You know when
2059
01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:27.800
you think about that you had thirty four million views on.
2060
01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:31.319
This, it'd be like that's not even like it would
2061
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:33.520
so much more violent that that's insane, bro.
2062
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:35.560
Yeah yeah, but dang.
2063
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:39.039
Also, it's a great business card for your son in
2064
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:42.760
the dating world, yeah, like you know what yeah yeah,
2065
01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:45.159
or the longevity world. I mean it's just like, yeah,
2066
01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:47.359
if that's something that's just like it's your nature that
2067
01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:49.279
it's going to show up at night, because yeah, I
2068
01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:51.079
noticed that. I definitely if I wake up with an erection,
2069
01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:54.119
I do feel more like, yeah, Okay I'm virile or
2070
01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:57.239
virile yeah, yeah, and I'm rocking, you know, and I
2071
01:35:57.359 --> 01:35:59.039
still got it, you know what I'm saying.
2072
01:35:59.159 --> 01:35:59.960
And bring on the day.
2073
01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:03.840
Yeah, you remember feel like when you were like early teens.
2074
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:06.960
Oh yeah, you're always erect, Like in the middle of
2075
01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:09.479
the day, you have you just become erect.
2076
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:09.800
Yeah.
2077
01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:11.319
I remember walking down the hall and ev and like
2078
01:36:11.439 --> 01:36:14.039
lean my body inward like to because or like walk
2079
01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:17.119
with your book over, yes, holding your book back and
2080
01:36:17.119 --> 01:36:19.520
wearing your book back on the front. Yeah, or just
2081
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:22.359
or i'd walk in like just at school, I would
2082
01:36:22.399 --> 01:36:25.159
just point my body towards the wall and just walk
2083
01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:26.920
sideways and shit, just weird shit.
2084
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:32.199
Yeah exactly. That's like a robust function. But then as
2085
01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:34.960
you as you age, right, they just disappear. And so
2086
01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:36.439
that's why it's so important. So I talk about it
2087
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:39.520
because people who don't have men who do not have
2088
01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:42.680
robust night time directions are seventy percent more likely to
2089
01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:45.600
have a cardiac event. So like you, like you really
2090
01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:48.680
want to know if it's not working, like all the
2091
01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:51.560
stuff was going on and so wow, a lot of.
2092
01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:53.560
My yeah, there was a long time I didn't because
2093
01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:55.920
a lot of it was psychological too. I think I
2094
01:36:56.079 --> 01:36:57.600
was just there was something going on in my head
2095
01:36:57.680 --> 01:36:58.479
that wasn't healthy.
2096
01:37:01.039 --> 01:37:04.039
You had mentioned you had an experience. I have to
2097
01:37:04.079 --> 01:37:04.680
pee really quick.
2098
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:08.520
Now we just took a year in break. Dude, I
2099
01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:10.279
pee long when I pee? Do you because I drink
2100
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:11.600
a lot of fluids during the day?
2101
01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:13.119
Yeah? Is that good or bad?
2102
01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:13.479
Good?
2103
01:37:13.479 --> 01:37:14.800
Does it matter? Yeah? Yeah?
2104
01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:17.000
Do you cut off fluids at a certain time at
2105
01:37:17.039 --> 01:37:18.760
the end of the day so you don't wake up
2106
01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:19.359
to pee at night?
2107
01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:21.880
Yeah? So I measure. What I did is I measured
2108
01:37:22.439 --> 01:37:25.720
my fluid. So when I exercise and when I'm in thesauna,
2109
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:28.119
I'm able to exercise how much. I measure how much
2110
01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:30.600
I sweat. So Gatorade has a patch. Just put it
2111
01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:32.760
on the inside of your forearm, and then it gives
2112
01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:35.960
you how much you sweat and also the content of
2113
01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:38.000
your sodium, So you like a kind of a baseline,
2114
01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:40.039
and then you have an idea of like you can
2115
01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:43.800
back into how much should you consume and should you
2116
01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:46.119
have supplement with the sodium or do you already have that? So, yeah,
2117
01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:48.920
I consume about about one hundred and twenty one hundred
2118
01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:50.439
and thirty ounces of water per day, So a lot,
2119
01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:54.039
like you, I frontloaded in the morning and I stop
2120
01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:58.039
around four to five. So yeah, so that then helps
2121
01:37:58.119 --> 01:38:00.800
me less than the number time than it up. So sometimes,
2122
01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:03.680
if I'm lucky, I'll sleep with the entire night, and
2123
01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:06.159
then other times, like probably half the nights, you know,
2124
01:38:06.199 --> 01:38:09.640
I'll get up once. But yeah, I try stop fluid
2125
01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:12.039
towards the end of the day to stop gid up
2126
01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:12.279
a night.
2127
01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:14.000
So you'll stop a kind of right after you eat dinner.
2128
01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:16.159
Yeah, so I well, actually I eat dinner at like
2129
01:38:16.239 --> 01:38:19.760
eleven am noon. I have my final meal the day
2130
01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:20.600
around noon.
2131
01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:21.520
Oh you do.
2132
01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:24.720
Yeah, And when you have your first meal, man, when
2133
01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:26.319
I wake up at six, okay, I wake up. I
2134
01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:28.239
got four or five, like four or five, and then
2135
01:38:28.279 --> 01:38:31.359
I'll have breakfast before I eat. So you eat breakfast, yeah,
2136
01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:33.680
like so many things that are like, don't eat breakfast.
2137
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:35.640
I feel better when I don't eatreakfast and I eat
2138
01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:37.079
later in the day and I keep it into a
2139
01:38:37.119 --> 01:38:38.119
smaller eating window.
2140
01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:39.079
But you don't.
2141
01:38:39.199 --> 01:38:41.399
That's not your practice. Yeah, Like do your thing right,
2142
01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:43.119
Like you're saying, do your thing, Yeah, exactly, I do
2143
01:38:43.199 --> 01:38:45.880
your thing. But I like what I I built my
2144
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life around sleep, Like unquestionably. So. The reason I do
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01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:53.159
that is because if I have my last meal around noon,
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01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:56.960
my heart before part before I go to bed will
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01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:59.800
be around forty one forty two, forty three beats per minute,
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01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:03.119
which if I have that, I will have a perfect
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01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:05.479
night sleep. I'll get like four to four and a
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01:39:05.479 --> 01:39:08.359
half hours for sort of sleep. I'll fall asleep within
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01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:12.600
one minute. I'll you know, half the nights I will
2152
01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:15.159
knock it up. Other nights I'll wake up. I'll be
2153
01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:18.359
back to sleep within like a minute or two and so. Yeah.
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01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:20.439
And then once I have that kind of sleep profile,
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01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:23.520
like I feel like I can take on life. When
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01:39:23.560 --> 01:39:26.479
I don't sleep well, it just it's a craw man.
2157
01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:28.520
It sucks. I hate how I feel.
2158
01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:32.039
Everything goes downhill, everything does. The way I treat other people,
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01:39:32.199 --> 01:39:34.840
the way I treat myself. Like you're saying last night's
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01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:36.359
sleep was bad, might as well wreck the rest of
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01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:38.760
the day. You know, there's this ye, yeah, there's this
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01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:41.760
like reginitator thing that sort of continues to happen.
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01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:45.800
Do you take any supplements for sleeping?
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01:39:47.399 --> 01:39:52.000
I take three hundred mcgs of meltonin, So that's not
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01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:54.800
to be confused with a milligram. It is like a
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01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:57.079
third of a milligram. Okay, so very very light dose.
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01:39:57.479 --> 01:39:59.359
That's all I take in a powder or chewable or
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01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:02.800
what just a I take a plant based melatonin, yeah,
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01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:05.760
instead of synthetic. But otherwise, you know, people have their
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01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:08.640
sleep stacks that have like the magnesiums and like cool,
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01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:10.079
but I just don't need it.
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01:40:11.119 --> 01:40:11.279
Yeah.
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01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:13.760
What I've learned is that the body is a clock.
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01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:20.199
It loves consistency, and so we've measured this where your
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01:40:20.239 --> 01:40:24.199
body wants to run. It runs certain biochemical processes on
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01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:26.840
a certain time frames. So for example, if your bedtime
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01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:30.680
is ten PM and you miss it, you say, like,
2178
01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:33.359
I'm gonna go to bed at two am today, but
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01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:35.399
I'll make up for it. I'll sleep in until ten
2180
01:40:35.439 --> 01:40:37.640
I get my full eight hours. It doesn't work like that.
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01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:41.760
So at ten PM, your body has a trash collector
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01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.439
that rolls to the body and it picks up the trash.
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01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:47.600
If you're not in bed at ten pm in a sleep,
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01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:50.840
the trash collector doesn't come and the trash accumulates in
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01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:54.359
the body. So it's more important to be on time
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01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:57.920
and consistent. Otherwise, like the body's processes can't do its thing.
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01:40:58.159 --> 01:41:00.319
So that's what I've learned, is like you have to
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01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:02.199
treat the body like a system. You can't just be
2189
01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:04.720
like fuck it, I'm gonna like power over it or
2190
01:41:04.840 --> 01:41:07.359
like run like you can't, Like the body runs on
2191
01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:09.720
certain principles of biology, you can't over rule it.
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01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:15.000
Wow, And it kind of makes sense because even your brain,
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01:41:15.079 --> 01:41:17.279
like your brain's main job is just to keep things organized.
2194
01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:19.560
Your body just wants to it. Yeah, a system just
2195
01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:21.960
wants to run, Yeah, in an organized fashion.
2196
01:41:22.039 --> 01:41:22.560
Yeah exactly.
2197
01:41:22.800 --> 01:41:23.000
Yeah.
2198
01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:25.199
Like you're saying, like when we first started talking, is
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01:41:25.239 --> 01:41:27.800
like you have a plan, you have a routine, Like
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01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:30.479
it feels good, you like it. Mentally, it feels good,
2201
01:41:30.520 --> 01:41:32.560
the body feels good. It's just better have that.
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01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:35.840
I've read somewhere that you spend like a couple million
2203
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:38.039
dollars a year to take care of yourself and to
2204
01:41:38.279 --> 01:41:39.000
learn data.
2205
01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:40.359
What is it?
2206
01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:42.479
What does that financially look like for you? Really?
2207
01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:45.479
Is that the truth that was true? I think initially? Okay,
2208
01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:47.640
it's I think it's a bit less now because we
2209
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:50.079
have all these systems built out. But the cost primarily
2210
01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:53.800
came from hiring the doctors, hiring the scientists. So we
2211
01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:56.680
had to like comb through all the scientific evidence, like
2212
01:41:56.720 --> 01:42:00.359
for example, if you do sauna, how do you sauna?
2213
01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:02.680
What temperature? What kind of sauna?
2214
01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:03.800
You know?
2215
01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:06.800
How long do I see your taskles or not? How
2216
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:08.760
do you measure your heat shock proteins? Like the little
2217
01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:10.960
minions going out doing the good shit, Like you have
2218
01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:14.279
to go to this degree which is extensive. And then
2219
01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:16.920
I bought a bunch of equipment, like I have a couple,
2220
01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:18.640
like I don't know, a million or two of equipment
2221
01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:21.279
at the house, all the various things, and then just
2222
01:42:21.319 --> 01:42:23.880
all the money for the experimentation of the measurement. But
2223
01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:26.920
the actual things we've learned are low cost, Like I
2224
01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:29.600
can take everything I've learned and give it to somebody
2225
01:42:29.720 --> 01:42:31.560
and they can put it into their life, like at
2226
01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:34.039
a very very low cost. So it's been really just
2227
01:42:34.079 --> 01:42:38.079
about there's actually very few therapies that costs a lot
2228
01:42:38.119 --> 01:42:42.279
of money that are worth Like most things don't work,
2229
01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:45.920
most things are bullshit. And so that's been the process
2230
01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:47.640
of like spending the money to figure out what does
2231
01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:49.199
work and then how those things work.
2232
01:42:49.359 --> 01:42:51.520
What about red light therapy? Do you think that's helpful?
2233
01:42:51.960 --> 01:42:55.560
It's see this is the thing is yes, but you
2234
01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:58.399
have to make sure that you're getting the right amount
2235
01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:00.760
of light therapy for the right now duration of time.
2236
01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:03.720
And so if it's like a face mask, of whether
2237
01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:06.199
it's a panel, and so we do things like we'll
2238
01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:08.800
take a panel, we'll measure the irradiance, like how much
2239
01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:11.760
exposure you're getting at what distance, what duration if you're
2240
01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:15.000
looking for like deep pilling or longevity. So again, I
2241
01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:17.399
don't want to make it overly complicated, but it matters,
2242
01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:18.920
and so we try to be very precise. Like if
2243
01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:22.039
you're doing red light therapy, get this dose, and now
2244
01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:23.600
you can just go to an AIM model and be like,
2245
01:43:24.119 --> 01:43:27.039
I have this device, it has these specs. If I
2246
01:43:27.079 --> 01:43:29.119
want a loungevity protocol, how long should I have this?
2247
01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:31.239
That gives you the data. But you want to be
2248
01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:33.560
precise because a lot of people think, like red light's good,
2249
01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:35.960
I'll just do it and it's great, Like it's more nuanced.
2250
01:43:36.079 --> 01:43:39.359
Because I was talking about natural path ophthalmologists. Yeah, and
2251
01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:42.159
she was saying that some exposure of red light therapy
2252
01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:43.119
can be helpful.
2253
01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:43.520
Yeah.
2254
01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:44.880
I do it every day. I do red light. I
2255
01:43:44.960 --> 01:43:49.399
have three panels that surround me. It's red and near light.
2256
01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:51.520
I do it for six minutes a day. Okay, so
2257
01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:53.359
I do every day. It's a good therapy, got it.
2258
01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:57.920
What about like barometric those you know those like barometric chambers.
2259
01:43:58.000 --> 01:43:59.880
You see a lot of those at wellness centers. You know.
2260
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:01.479
I'll go to a place where I get n A
2261
01:44:01.640 --> 01:44:04.119
D every week and I'll do NA D injections every day.
2262
01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:10.880
Are you do? Is the barometric thing something you recommend?
2263
01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:13.520
Yeah? So I have a hyperbaric oxiden therapy change that's
2264
01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:13.800
what I mean.
2265
01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:14.439
Hyperbaric.
2266
01:44:14.520 --> 01:44:20.000
Yeah, so it's it's potentially it's right there at the
2267
01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:25.159
very very top. So i'd say sauna hyperbaric oxiden therapy
2268
01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:30.159
and like interestingly mushrooms magic mushrooms is up there. But yeah,
2269
01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.479
hyperbaric is one of the best therapies. Like we all
2270
01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:35.680
do with our experiments, I did a two hundred and
2271
01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:41.119
fifty bio marker measurement and what we saw after sixty sessions, Yeah,
2272
01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:47.079
three we go there's the system. We we saw changes
2273
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:52.760
in my brain, in my microbiome, my skin, my blood inflammation,
2274
01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:58.239
like telomeres. It just had more whole body effects. If
2275
01:44:58.279 --> 01:45:01.359
you pull up do find the one I I did
2276
01:45:01.439 --> 01:45:07.600
on x Brian Johnson HBO summary. It's the best skin
2277
01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:12.000
rejuvenation protocol in the world that rebuilds collagen elassin fibers.
2278
01:45:12.159 --> 01:45:14.560
It gets rid of senesca cells, which is zombie cells.
2279
01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:16.000
How long do you need to be in there for
2280
01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:20.960
that's the thing that's the problem. Ninety minutes day percession
2281
01:45:21.159 --> 01:45:23.119
and you need to do sixty. Yeah, there we go.
2282
01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:27.039
That's a good summary. So it does sixty sessions each
2283
01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:31.880
ninety minutes in ninety days. So it's a gigantic amount
2284
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:34.600
of time. Yeah, and you can't have electronics in there,
2285
01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:37.359
it's too dangerous. So yeah, this is the thing is
2286
01:45:37.439 --> 01:45:41.279
it's it's really inaccessible, which is sad because it's so good.
2287
01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:44.760
Three hundred percent increase in formation and new blood vessels,
2288
01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:47.039
telemerite activity of a twelve year old associated with the
2289
01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:53.079
biological agete, ninety percent increase in short chain fatty acids.
2290
01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:54.880
But you'd have to do this and then keep it
2291
01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:56.239
up for every year, right.
2292
01:45:56.359 --> 01:45:59.560
Yeah, Actually, so people don't really know we're experimenting. But
2293
01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:03.159
right now now I'm doing sixty sessions per year in
2294
01:46:03.279 --> 01:46:05.640
like a big burst, and then I'll do like a
2295
01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:09.319
twenty session burst once per quarter, and so I'll do
2296
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:12.760
this around for example, like a certain treatments. Like Thursday,
2297
01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:14.399
I had a bunch of stuff under my face. So
2298
01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:18.079
I'm beat up. I've got like stuff all over the place. Yes,
2299
01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:19.960
like under I have like bruised.
2300
01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:25.640
Yeah, your damn lab rat, Yeah, your damn white mouse.
2301
01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:30.560
Yes, like we as you age you, you lose collagen
2302
01:46:31.079 --> 01:46:34.279
and so your skin like gets saggy and let's plump.
2303
01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:37.239
And so I did a bunch of injectables to rebuild
2304
01:46:37.279 --> 01:46:39.800
my collagen. Okay, and so that's why I'm bruised and
2305
01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:42.920
stuff like that. But then you pair that with hyperbaric
2306
01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:44.880
auxidive therapy and like boost the therapy.
2307
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.079
Got it? So yeah, so that's the thing.
2308
01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:48.880
So say, if I'm gonna go get an ANAD injection
2309
01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:50.720
or an ivy every week and it's gonna take two
2310
01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:52.720
hours anyway, while I'll sit in there, I might as
2311
01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:55.159
well sit in the hyperbaric while I do it, if
2312
01:46:55.199 --> 01:46:56.920
there's one there. Or do you think if I only
2313
01:46:56.960 --> 01:46:58.960
go fifty times in a year, is even worth it?
2314
01:46:59.159 --> 01:47:02.640
I mean, you like there are you can do, like
2315
01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:05.119
one session is good for you, got it? And you
2316
01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:07.760
can do five also good for you. There's like protocols
2317
01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:11.680
that on healing, like diabetics will do like ten to
2318
01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:14.560
twenty sessions to close open wounds because it's really great
2319
01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:17.560
for healing. This is just like the longevity protocols, So
2320
01:47:17.600 --> 01:47:19.680
you can do fewer sessions and still do it, but
2321
01:47:19.720 --> 01:47:22.920
you want to have it. It's a compounded therapy, so
2322
01:47:23.039 --> 01:47:25.760
do them in a close proximity, but no more than
2323
01:47:25.840 --> 01:47:27.960
five per week. Your body needs to have a break,
2324
01:47:28.119 --> 01:47:28.399
got it.
2325
01:47:28.640 --> 01:47:28.840
Yeah?
2326
01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:31.359
Yeah, I saw you did the mushroom therapy and that's
2327
01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:32.920
one of the things that kind of brought me like
2328
01:47:33.439 --> 01:47:35.359
made me think like, Okay, this guy it's not like
2329
01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:37.960
you know, this guy's really he's still out there experimenting
2330
01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:41.960
and wanting to learn more. Right, what was that therapy
2331
01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:44.600
like for you? And were you surprised by it? And
2332
01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:47.000
was it psilocybin? I guess the and the effects?
2333
01:47:47.159 --> 01:47:50.640
Yeah, that this is one of the coolest discoveries we've made.
2334
01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:55.920
Is psilocybin like sits in the world of psychedelics, but
2335
01:47:56.039 --> 01:48:00.600
it's never been bridged over to longevity. Different way of
2336
01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:04.159
thinking about psilocybin and talking about it. And so we said,
2337
01:48:04.600 --> 01:48:07.479
can we do an experiment to see is our magic
2338
01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:10.920
mushrooms a loungevity therapy? So same thing we measurreed two
2339
01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:16.399
hundred and fifty bio markers and the data was insane surprisingly, so,
2340
01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:21.399
like we found this new thing where there were studies
2341
01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:26.279
in mice that showed that the blood glucose improved in me.
2342
01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:31.880
My blood glucose went from ninety eight point two percentile
2343
01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:35.600
in the population a good to ninety nine point eight percentile.
2344
01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:37.720
I think something like that. Like it almost hit like
2345
01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:42.680
a metabolic reset in the brain, resetting your blood glucose regulation,
2346
01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:47.319
which is gigantic. It took my inflammation levels down to undetectable.
2347
01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:52.680
It had changes in my microbiome. It I list them
2348
01:48:52.680 --> 01:48:56.319
all out here. Yeah, like it legit is a longevity therapy.
2349
01:48:56.720 --> 01:49:00.520
It reduced inflammation and blood detectable called my body and mind,
2350
01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:04.319
lower cortisol, inhibited HPA access in the days following the.
2351
01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:06.840
Dose, made neuroplasticity in the brain, like takes your brain
2352
01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:08.000
to a more youthful state.
2353
01:49:08.199 --> 01:49:08.399
Wow.
2354
01:49:08.439 --> 01:49:10.399
So you guys did a lot of like treatment while
2355
01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:13.600
you were under this, And did you then put this
2356
01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:15.359
into your protocol after that?
2357
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:20.039
Yeah, yep. So it's really early days. Nobody knows the
2358
01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:24.000
ideal protocol, but right now it's like once every thirty
2359
01:49:24.119 --> 01:49:25.199
days seems to.
2360
01:49:25.199 --> 01:49:28.079
Be about right, and how much mushrooms you taken.
2361
01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:32.319
Twenty five milligrams of psilocybin, Okay, So then it depends
2362
01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:35.760
upon the strain. So I did the B positive mushroom strain.
2363
01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:39.319
So it's like four and a half grams of dried
2364
01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:43.199
mushroom powder, which then was the twenty five milligrams of psilocybin.
2365
01:49:43.399 --> 01:49:44.600
So that's a real trip kind.
2366
01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:49.279
Of yeah's clinical grade. It's like it's just below a ecodisolution.
2367
01:49:50.119 --> 01:49:50.359
Wow.
2368
01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:52.039
So you have to be like in a say, you
2369
01:49:52.079 --> 01:49:53.039
got to chill out somewhere.
2370
01:49:54.319 --> 01:49:55.760
You don't want to beat the club, right.
2371
01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:01.680
And what about but you but that was so helpful
2372
01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:03.199
to you. Now it's part of the protocol.
2373
01:50:03.399 --> 01:50:04.640
Yeah wow yeah.
2374
01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:05.000
Yeah.
2375
01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:09.479
We're doing our next psychedelic live stream in three weeks.
2376
01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:11.920
We're doing a new psychedelic Oh yeah, this is cool.
2377
01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:13.479
So yeah, Kate did it with me.
2378
01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:15.960
Oh, your girl did it, and you did the first one.
2379
01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:19.079
Just showed up at the end of when I was
2380
01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:21.520
coming down. He showed up with my dad.
2381
01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:22.479
Oh it's crazy.
2382
01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:25.039
We had such a good family bonding moment, you know,
2383
01:50:25.079 --> 01:50:27.039
because like you're in that state and I was just
2384
01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:29.720
giddy and euphoric and I was able to express things
2385
01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:32.760
to my dad. Yeah yeah, oh man, that's huge. And
2386
01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:35.239
so then yeah, so we did this. We see the
2387
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:41.079
temperature when you take psilocybin, your body changes in this
2388
01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:45.199
thermal regulation, so the extremities get a lot colder. You
2389
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:47.359
have a lot of heat going inside. So we did
2390
01:50:47.399 --> 01:50:51.560
that as a measurement. But yeah, so we're looking at
2391
01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:54.039
our next psychedelic because there's like a few things like
2392
01:50:55.279 --> 01:51:01.239
we did ssil cybin, but other contenders are ayahuasca, five
2393
01:51:01.359 --> 01:51:07.119
m e O. What else did we look at? Yeah,
2394
01:51:07.159 --> 01:51:10.319
so we're doing one live streaming in three weeks.
2395
01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:11.159
Wow, that's amazing.
2396
01:51:11.560 --> 01:51:14.960
Yeah, ayahuasca has been one that you should I've done
2397
01:51:14.960 --> 01:51:15.920
it before. It's been amazing.
2398
01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:18.039
You should come on. So last last time we did this,
2399
01:51:18.640 --> 01:51:20.760
we had people who came on to work because I
2400
01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:23.439
was tripping, and we had a bunch of people who
2401
01:51:23.479 --> 01:51:27.560
were commentators who are like like almost like fight show stuff,
2402
01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:30.399
like you, Yeah, you should come on and be a commentator.
2403
01:51:31.079 --> 01:51:33.880
Dang, bro, that would be so wild to commentate somebody
2404
01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:35.880
who's going through an ayahuasca experience.
2405
01:51:37.079 --> 01:51:38.960
I'm not opposed to that. Where are you based out of?
2406
01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:43.279
Well, we'll do it internationally, so oh you have to,
2407
01:51:43.359 --> 01:51:45.520
I guess, yes, just be online just like we just
2408
01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:49.119
bring you in. So it's like, you know, it's like, actually,
2409
01:51:49.159 --> 01:51:52.760
it'd be fun to get a few comedians kind of in, like,
2410
01:51:52.880 --> 01:51:55.720
you know, give give their two cents on like what's
2411
01:51:55.800 --> 01:51:56.039
going on?
2412
01:51:56.279 --> 01:52:00.000
And are there any psychedelics that you would say are definitively.
2413
01:51:59.560 --> 01:51:59.920
Bad for you?
2414
01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:06.119
Hmmm, I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.
2415
01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:08.279
Is there any like therapy that you went and tried
2416
01:52:08.319 --> 01:52:10.439
and you were like, oh, this is definitely not it,
2417
01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:13.119
or like, was there every place where you got scared,
2418
01:52:13.199 --> 01:52:17.000
like you went to like you know, romani or someplace
2419
01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:18.760
you know, this hype of hypothesizing.
2420
01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:20.439
But yeah, I like, if you pull up that image
2421
01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:22.119
of my face that blow up, you had it out
2422
01:52:22.119 --> 01:52:26.920
there before. I yeah, so that's you, that's me.
2423
01:52:27.119 --> 01:52:27.319
Yeah.
2424
01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:31.640
So I got really skinny in the early days of
2425
01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:34.279
this project, really was skinny, and I lost a bunch
2426
01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:36.960
of volume in my face. And so when you lose
2427
01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:39.720
volume in your face, it's very hard to get back volume.
2428
01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:42.039
So most people just do filler, but I didn't want
2429
01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:44.800
to do filler, and so we did this reneuva, which
2430
01:52:44.880 --> 01:52:48.279
is this fat. So someone else was fat. So I
2431
01:52:48.359 --> 01:52:50.560
injected it into my face and I had a severe reaction.
2432
01:52:51.359 --> 01:52:53.119
So that was so that didn't work.
2433
01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:57.640
But that's crazy, dude. I saw this earlier and I
2434
01:52:57.760 --> 01:53:00.000
was thinking, like, who is this lady that they're bringing up?
2435
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:04.039
Uh? I thought this was like a Native American woman.
2436
01:53:05.159 --> 01:53:07.600
I totally thought this was a native Yeah, like on
2437
01:53:07.680 --> 01:53:09.560
the on the far right there. That was me like
2438
01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.359
like forty five minutes after the injection, I was like,
2439
01:53:13.479 --> 01:53:16.319
oh shit, this is not a good situation. It took
2440
01:53:16.399 --> 01:53:17.520
me like six days.
2441
01:53:18.720 --> 01:53:19.199
It was bad.
2442
01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:24.359
That's pretty scary, dude, spending all this time working on yourself, right,
2443
01:53:24.840 --> 01:53:26.880
how do you stay out of like ego with it?
2444
01:53:27.239 --> 01:53:29.680
Because it's such a self you know, in the end,
2445
01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:32.199
there's a there's some ecause because it's you. You're the
2446
01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:36.760
yourr own experiment, you know. And then what are some
2447
01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:38.439
of the side like what does it cost you? Like
2448
01:53:38.479 --> 01:53:40.199
what have been some of the things, Like have there
2449
01:53:40.279 --> 01:53:42.640
been relationships you haven't been able to have, Like has
2450
01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:45.560
it been tough to like spend time with family? Like
2451
01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:47.279
what are some things what are the side effects of
2452
01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:50.840
being like, you know, one of the biggest experiments in
2453
01:53:51.439 --> 01:53:52.880
in uh in history yeah.
2454
01:53:53.640 --> 01:53:56.039
I mean that's that's like one of the primary criticisms,
2455
01:53:56.079 --> 01:53:59.520
Like it is people say, uh, you know, broso busy
2456
01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:03.159
trying to I forgot how to live. And I understand
2457
01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:06.079
what they're saying. I definitely understand the perspective. And I
2458
01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:10.479
view myself as a modern day explorer, you know, like
2459
01:54:10.800 --> 01:54:13.239
somebody who is out there on the frontier trying to
2460
01:54:13.319 --> 01:54:17.439
discover something new, and like, man, I fucking love this
2461
01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:22.760
so much. I love this game so much. I'm into it,
2462
01:54:22.920 --> 01:54:24.439
like it when I wake up in the morning, It's
2463
01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:26.520
the first thing I think about all day long, Like
2464
01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:28.479
what is the experiment, what is the data, what is
2465
01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:31.439
the science? I love it, And so I think people
2466
01:54:31.720 --> 01:54:34.520
just don't understand that it's a game I'm in love with.
2467
01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:37.479
And so you know, if is there a cost, yes,
2468
01:54:37.720 --> 01:54:41.359
like my friends going out and doing things sometimes that
2469
01:54:41.399 --> 01:54:43.760
I'm doing. Yes, Like do I feel a loss, No,
2470
01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:46.439
Like I'm very happy with the situation and so like
2471
01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:49.399
in some ways, like I'm a new kind of athlete.
2472
01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:53.279
I'm a professional rejuvenation athlete. Like Lebron goes to bed
2473
01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:55.479
on time, eats well, and we're like, oh, man, like
2474
01:54:55.560 --> 01:54:57.960
you play well in the court. People just don't understand
2475
01:54:58.319 --> 01:55:01.039
I'm a new archetype. They haven't seen it before. So
2476
01:55:01.159 --> 01:55:03.199
there's like just like a disconnect between that. It's cool,
2477
01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:05.800
like I love the hate. It's like great energy, right,
2478
01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:07.000
Like it's just a lot of discussion.
2479
01:55:07.359 --> 01:55:09.039
Yeah, and there's just a lot of confusion around it,
2480
01:55:09.119 --> 01:55:11.159
you know. Yeah, Yeah, I think you just don't know,
2481
01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:13.640
especially at a time when there's like these tech lords
2482
01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:17.520
who it seems like they want to like siphon everybody's yeah, Android,
2483
01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:20.520
chronome or whatever. Have you had anybody hit you up
2484
01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:22.159
about getting some adrenochrome or whatever?
2485
01:55:22.359 --> 01:55:29.000
Yeah, everybody has reached out to me, like everybody, top
2486
01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:31.000
to bottom, you name it, And like it's just like
2487
01:55:32.880 --> 01:55:38.279
what you know, what gives you a feeling of power?
2488
01:55:38.399 --> 01:55:44.920
You're like money, status or immortality, like immortality right the
2489
01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.560
other thing? They just don't care. It's like they just
2490
01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:48.960
don't pell Like this is what I'm saying, Like this
2491
01:55:49.079 --> 01:55:53.560
transition is happening. What good is money if you're dead?
2492
01:55:54.159 --> 01:55:56.680
What good is status if you're dead? Any world leaders
2493
01:55:56.720 --> 01:56:01.079
reached out? Yes, yeah, so what world do you think
2494
01:56:01.119 --> 01:56:04.560
they're from? I mean, they they they all want it,
2495
01:56:05.039 --> 01:56:06.880
They all want to be healthy, they all want world
2496
01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:10.399
leader to heat you up straight up, call you right up? Yeah, wow,
2497
01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:13.319
yeah yeah. I mean I mean it's like from everybody
2498
01:56:13.960 --> 01:56:16.640
say or no, you keep it. I can't yeah yeah,
2499
01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:17.520
but I ask.
2500
01:56:17.720 --> 01:56:17.920
Yeah.
2501
01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:21.079
I mean there was like this moment where Shipping and
2502
01:56:21.319 --> 01:56:23.840
Putin they had this hot mic issue a couple like
2503
01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:26.359
months ago, where they're both like, yeah, like you know,
2504
01:56:26.359 --> 01:56:28.159
it looks like we should be able to live like
2505
01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:29.119
one hundred and fifty years old.
2506
01:56:29.159 --> 01:56:29.600
I remember that.
2507
01:56:29.800 --> 01:56:32.840
Yeah, So it's like it's on their minds, Like it's
2508
01:56:32.920 --> 01:56:35.000
clearly in the zeitgeist, and if you're in that circle,
2509
01:56:35.439 --> 01:56:38.199
as I've watched this, like it's funny. In the world
2510
01:56:38.279 --> 01:56:43.520
of status and power, the new status marker is health,
2511
01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:47.159
Like that's what gives people power. And like now like
2512
01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:49.159
having a big bank account, sure it's cool whatever, but
2513
01:56:49.279 --> 01:56:51.960
like it doesn't matter, it has much. So it really
2514
01:56:52.119 --> 01:56:55.439
is like this big zeitgeist change on what it means
2515
01:56:55.520 --> 01:56:57.159
to be powerful in society and have status.
2516
01:56:57.479 --> 01:56:59.560
So I love seeing it. Like the more that happens,
2517
01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:02.840
the better off. Do you have competitors out there? Are
2518
01:57:02.880 --> 01:57:04.920
there other yous out there that you start to run
2519
01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:07.399
across from different realms or different countries or whatever.
2520
01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:09.000
I mean, like anyone who's trying.
2521
01:57:09.119 --> 01:57:09.479
I love it.
2522
01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:11.760
Like I'm a very much a yes and kind of guy,
2523
01:57:12.199 --> 01:57:15.560
Like anyone's out there experimenting great, you know, like do
2524
01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:19.039
your thing be beautiful. So yeah, I really try to
2525
01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:21.159
encourage everybody. People will call me and they'll be like,
2526
01:57:21.479 --> 01:57:23.640
I'm gonna beat you at your markers. I'm gonna great.
2527
01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:26.239
I will help you right, like I will make you better,
2528
01:57:26.399 --> 01:57:28.520
like I will. You'll have to make the same mistakes
2529
01:57:28.600 --> 01:57:31.960
I have. So we're just when you think about it,
2530
01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:36.279
we are. The whole situation is so fucked up. We're
2531
01:57:36.319 --> 01:57:40.199
on planet Earth in the middle of space. What is
2532
01:57:40.279 --> 01:57:40.800
even going on?
2533
01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:41.560
Right?
2534
01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:44.319
And it's like this is so crazy, and like the
2535
01:57:44.439 --> 01:57:47.039
fact that we're conscious is so cool. The fact that
2536
01:57:47.079 --> 01:57:49.760
we're live is so amazing, Like why wouldn't we do
2537
01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:53.199
absolutely everything in our power to keep this game going,
2538
01:57:53.439 --> 01:57:55.479
Like I don't want it to stop, and so like,
2539
01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:57.039
to me, it's the coolest game. And so yeah, it's
2540
01:57:57.039 --> 01:58:01.199
like celebrate everybody who's trying to embrace life and like, honestly,
2541
01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:04.000
get fucking rid of everybody who tried to kill us,
2542
01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:08.000
Like stop it, stop the fucking killing. It's so crazy
2543
01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:08.479
and stupid.
2544
01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:11.520
Had via to separate some relationships because your journey winning
2545
01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:12.760
this direction kind of Yep.
2546
01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:17.920
My friends are more like me than I ever would
2547
01:58:17.960 --> 01:58:20.439
have guessed now, Like they go to bed on time, right,
2548
01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:24.600
they see it, So I'd say, my friend group, we
2549
01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:27.640
now do things together, and so no, I don't miss
2550
01:58:27.680 --> 01:58:29.680
out much. Like there's there's some things like for example,
2551
01:58:31.399 --> 01:58:35.800
Grimes did a she did a DJ set and she
2552
01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:38.840
started at one, so I went to bed at seven pm.
2553
01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:42.600
I woke up like at nine thirty pm, and then
2554
01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:44.880
I went out did her set with her, then went
2555
01:58:45.119 --> 01:58:47.399
back to bed. I did with Aoki as well. So
2556
01:58:47.520 --> 01:58:49.760
like I've been trying to like be balanced of like
2557
01:58:50.199 --> 01:58:53.319
be rigid. Also, the rest of the world parties at
2558
01:58:53.319 --> 01:58:55.600
one o'clock in the morning, so and I still had
2559
01:58:55.680 --> 01:58:57.520
like a great sleep score. I still got my reswortive sleep.
2560
01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:00.680
So like I have tried my best to go after
2561
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:02.800
this goal of don't die, but also like try to
2562
01:59:03.560 --> 01:59:06.319
find some compromise in doing things that are currently normal
2563
01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:07.159
in today's society.
2564
01:59:07.359 --> 01:59:10.479
Do you feel addicted to wanting to to not die?
2565
01:59:11.800 --> 01:59:14.000
I mean probably right, like in the same way like
2566
01:59:15.079 --> 01:59:19.279
are people addicted to making money? Yeah, you know, people
2567
01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:21.840
addicted to social media. Yeah, like like the human conditions
2568
01:59:21.920 --> 01:59:25.680
kind of addiction, and so like am I Yeah, I'm
2569
01:59:25.800 --> 01:59:28.359
lost in this. I don't think I've ever felt as
2570
01:59:28.760 --> 01:59:31.640
satisfied and fulfilled as I do now. Wow, I've got
2571
01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:35.279
a fantastic family, I have a fantastic partner. I love
2572
01:59:35.399 --> 01:59:38.760
the game I'm playing. I just you know, like I
2573
01:59:38.920 --> 01:59:42.239
went through like ten years of chronic depression, like legit
2574
01:59:42.359 --> 01:59:44.279
wanted to kill myself and I would have done it,
2575
01:59:44.359 --> 01:59:46.239
had to notive for my kids. It's like, I know
2576
01:59:46.359 --> 01:59:48.439
what shitty feels like, like when you're just like you're
2577
01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:51.079
so buried deep and it's like I don't know how
2578
01:59:51.079 --> 01:59:53.199
many day out of this, Like it's just bad.
2579
01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:54.560
What started the cause of that?
2580
01:59:54.640 --> 01:59:57.199
Do you think I'd well? A couple of things. One,
2581
01:59:57.279 --> 01:59:59.680
I just had my first baby and he was colicky,
2582
02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:02.000
and so we weren't sleeping. It was like six months
2583
02:00:02.039 --> 02:00:05.119
of total sleep deprivation. I was building a startup, so
2584
02:00:05.560 --> 02:00:07.920
I had no money. I was stressed out of my mind.
2585
02:00:08.079 --> 02:00:10.520
My partner wasn't working, so I was a sole provider,
2586
02:00:11.439 --> 02:00:14.479
and so it's just like no sleep and startup and
2587
02:00:14.800 --> 02:00:16.560
no money, and like I think it just got me.
2588
02:00:17.079 --> 02:00:20.119
And then once it got me. It's very hard to
2589
02:00:20.159 --> 02:00:23.000
wrestle your way out of it. When my circumstances didn't change,
2590
02:00:23.000 --> 02:00:24.279
Like I still had no money, I still had to
2591
02:00:24.319 --> 02:00:27.479
make my startup work. And so then I just got
2592
02:00:27.560 --> 02:00:29.880
deeper and deeper and then like it just kind of
2593
02:00:29.960 --> 02:00:33.000
cascaded into like a really bad shit. So I'm so
2594
02:00:33.079 --> 02:00:34.399
grateful I didn't commit suicide.
2595
02:00:34.520 --> 02:00:38.680
You know, So how much does the you take care
2596
02:00:38.680 --> 02:00:40.880
of yourself so much physically, you have so much information
2597
02:00:41.000 --> 02:00:43.880
about that, how much how much are you able to
2598
02:00:45.319 --> 02:00:47.359
attach your mental to that as well? Or what do
2599
02:00:47.399 --> 02:00:49.600
you notice about the physical mental relationship?
2600
02:00:49.760 --> 02:00:54.840
Yeah? That if when people so right now, if somebody
2601
02:00:55.039 --> 02:00:58.840
is suffering from anxiety, depression or something else, the first
2602
02:00:58.960 --> 02:01:02.159
move mostly is to take a pill, right, get on
2603
02:01:02.279 --> 02:01:06.600
some kind of yeah, and so the first move is
2604
02:01:06.680 --> 02:01:10.279
really to fix your sleep. And the way to fix
2605
02:01:10.279 --> 02:01:12.239
your sleep is to lower your heart rate. Lower the
2606
02:01:12.319 --> 02:01:14.159
heart rate, you have your last meal the day, like
2607
02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:16.840
like do all these different steps. Now, that's not going
2608
02:01:16.920 --> 02:01:20.800
to fix everybody's issues, but having good sleep in place
2609
02:01:21.159 --> 02:01:23.760
is the most powerful thing anybody can do in their
2610
02:01:23.800 --> 02:01:26.199
life on any condition. And then once you have that
2611
02:01:26.279 --> 02:01:29.079
in place, like if you need to look at other options. Cool,
2612
02:01:29.560 --> 02:01:32.079
but most of the time people don't look at the
2613
02:01:32.359 --> 02:01:34.520
very basic things like are you in a bed on time?
2614
02:01:34.800 --> 02:01:36.560
Like when are you eating that last meal? What's your
2615
02:01:36.560 --> 02:01:40.399
heart rate? So I have found that when my body
2616
02:01:40.840 --> 02:01:44.640
is operating well, my mind operates well. It's a very
2617
02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:49.439
symbiotic relationship that you literally are what you consume, you know,
2618
02:01:49.640 --> 02:01:52.680
social media, food, all the above. And so I don't
2619
02:01:52.720 --> 02:01:55.760
talk about mental health as directly. I talk about get
2620
02:01:55.880 --> 02:01:58.720
the basics right and you see the boost and your
2621
02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:01.960
mental health. Like if I talk entrepreneurs, I'll say in
2622
02:02:02.000 --> 02:02:05.960
the room, like over half of you are in a
2623
02:02:06.199 --> 02:02:11.720
current mental health crisis. And the room always goes dead quiet.
2624
02:02:12.199 --> 02:02:14.520
They know I'm right. I see it in their eyes, right,
2625
02:02:14.680 --> 02:02:17.159
like they had a happy face on, They're like smiling
2626
02:02:17.359 --> 02:02:20.880
like yeah, I got this going on, but inside they're dying.
2627
02:02:21.079 --> 02:02:22.439
Yeah, and you know it.
2628
02:02:22.479 --> 02:02:23.640
You can feel it. And so when I say that,
2629
02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:26.399
and I puncture it, and it's like that's true. Like
2630
02:02:26.520 --> 02:02:31.800
you guys, like it's not good to build a company
2631
02:02:31.920 --> 02:02:34.960
when you're suicidal, right, right, Like no one's winning here,
2632
02:02:35.199 --> 02:02:37.840
So like get your shit together. You can build a
2633
02:02:37.880 --> 02:02:39.680
great company. You can be ambitious, you can be epic
2634
02:02:40.239 --> 02:02:43.319
like sleep and like, so that's really I mean, I
2635
02:02:43.319 --> 02:02:44.800
wish somebody would have been in my life to tell
2636
02:02:44.800 --> 02:02:46.479
me that, Like, hey, man, I see your ambitious, like
2637
02:02:46.560 --> 02:02:47.920
you have big plans for life, but like, let me
2638
02:02:48.039 --> 02:02:49.840
just kind of help you get some basics, right.
2639
02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:52.920
Yeah, having somebody mitigate, having somebody help you set some parameters.
2640
02:02:52.960 --> 02:02:54.800
It's just so hard and it's hard to believe. It's like,
2641
02:02:55.199 --> 02:02:57.000
you know, I remember grinding so hard for a few
2642
02:02:57.039 --> 02:02:59.079
years and I had like a mental breakdown kind of
2643
02:02:59.279 --> 02:03:01.239
like this is about five years ago. I almost literally
2644
02:03:01.319 --> 02:03:04.199
felt something snap in me too. You remember the day
2645
02:03:04.199 --> 02:03:09.079
in that moment, Uh, yeah, I remember, Yeah, I do remember.
2646
02:03:09.119 --> 02:03:11.840
I had some shows that were in they were up
2647
02:03:11.920 --> 02:03:14.720
in California, they were yeah, and I literally had to
2648
02:03:14.760 --> 02:03:15.720
cancel him the day up.
2649
02:03:15.800 --> 02:03:17.239
Yeah, never I do that in my life.
2650
02:03:17.279 --> 02:03:20.479
I said, if I have to walk out there, I
2651
02:03:21.600 --> 02:03:23.399
physically cannot do it anymore.
2652
02:03:23.479 --> 02:03:25.760
Yeah. And the whole time before that, I thought that
2653
02:03:25.840 --> 02:03:27.359
I just wasn't trying hard enough.
2654
02:03:27.439 --> 02:03:30.960
Yeah, one hundred percent. I would mirror your experience. I
2655
02:03:30.960 --> 02:03:31.520
had the same thing.
2656
02:03:31.640 --> 02:03:33.920
Yeah, would you do you have to go to therapy
2657
02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:34.319
or something?
2658
02:03:34.640 --> 02:03:34.680
No.
2659
02:03:34.960 --> 02:03:37.800
I was in the parking lot in orm Utah with
2660
02:03:37.960 --> 02:03:41.239
my brother in a red Saturn, and I said, he
2661
02:03:41.359 --> 02:03:43.399
was my business part of the time, and I said, Jason,
2662
02:03:45.720 --> 02:03:47.640
I was talking to you about like I'm feeling depressed.
2663
02:03:47.680 --> 02:03:50.880
I just like can't quite do things. And in that
2664
02:03:51.079 --> 02:03:55.600
conversation something like snapped, like I almost like physically heard
2665
02:03:55.640 --> 02:03:59.079
a snap. But I'm like me too, something just broke
2666
02:03:59.560 --> 02:04:03.119
in my and my brother was like, just try harder right,
2667
02:04:03.199 --> 02:04:06.600
like he wasn't. I don't think he understood that. If
2668
02:04:06.640 --> 02:04:08.479
you haven't been depressed, you don't know. But like I
2669
02:04:08.600 --> 02:04:11.079
will never ever forget that moment. It was like five
2670
02:04:11.279 --> 02:04:14.520
thirty in the evening, it was just sunsetting, and that
2671
02:04:15.319 --> 02:04:18.079
put me on a ten year long hole. And so,
2672
02:04:18.319 --> 02:04:22.920
like you know, I'm so empathetic to people like it.
2673
02:04:23.119 --> 02:04:25.960
It is so much more common than we talk then,
2674
02:04:26.119 --> 02:04:27.279
like people talk about.
2675
02:04:27.760 --> 02:04:29.680
I do think that, like you said earlier, that when
2676
02:04:29.720 --> 02:04:31.640
you said a lot like you were in that meeting
2677
02:04:31.680 --> 02:04:33.479
and you said a lot of people here are uh
2678
02:04:34.279 --> 02:04:36.880
are struggling or barely holding on. I do think that
2679
02:04:37.039 --> 02:04:39.039
that that kind of thing is the truth that like
2680
02:04:39.840 --> 02:04:43.520
we're all just in this space, we're pretty close to
2681
02:04:43.760 --> 02:04:47.159
exactly we're just holding on. Yeah, that's a much better
2682
02:04:47.159 --> 02:04:48.720
way of saying it. But like, but they we're so
2683
02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:51.560
used to surviving at that space too, you start to
2684
02:04:51.600 --> 02:04:52.760
think that that's supposed.
2685
02:04:52.399 --> 02:04:54.399
To be the norm and it's not exactly right. Yeah,
2686
02:04:54.920 --> 02:04:57.680
it's very real, and like it hurts and it sucks,
2687
02:04:57.720 --> 02:05:00.279
and no safe place to go, Like, who do you
2688
02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:01.760
tell us about? Is it safe?
2689
02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:02.079
Is it not?
2690
02:05:02.199 --> 02:05:04.680
We be penalized? Yeah, so it's a tough and then
2691
02:05:04.760 --> 02:05:06.520
that the world is so brutal on you. You can't
2692
02:05:06.520 --> 02:05:08.760
trust anyone, Everyone's after you. Tough space.
2693
02:05:09.359 --> 02:05:12.199
Yeah, and the truth is probably just say what is
2694
02:05:12.399 --> 02:05:17.039
going on? Yeah, you know, but it's so hard. Well,
2695
02:05:17.159 --> 02:05:19.960
last question with AI. You know AI and things are
2696
02:05:20.359 --> 02:05:22.720
happening so fast and differently. Now, do you think that
2697
02:05:23.039 --> 02:05:29.199
that will have a large effect on on on don't die,
2698
02:05:29.359 --> 02:05:32.199
on how we can live, on the possibility to live
2699
02:05:32.319 --> 02:05:36.880
forever or to have a longer life expectancy, And do
2700
02:05:37.039 --> 02:05:40.159
you use AI with your own data to help create
2701
02:05:40.279 --> 02:05:42.239
any sort of real information?
2702
02:05:42.439 --> 02:05:42.680
Yeah?
2703
02:05:43.279 --> 02:05:45.600
This, Well what a lot of people don't know is
2704
02:05:46.279 --> 02:05:51.359
this entire project I'm doing is about AI. It's not
2705
02:05:51.399 --> 02:05:54.880
about health, and so like what do you mean? Yeah,
2706
02:05:54.960 --> 02:05:58.560
so I did this when I was twenty one years old,
2707
02:05:58.920 --> 02:06:02.800
I had ambition that I wanted to do something that
2708
02:06:02.800 --> 02:06:04.199
would be useful to the human race.
2709
02:06:04.279 --> 02:06:04.680
Like that was.
2710
02:06:05.119 --> 02:06:06.520
I don't know why, but I just like I really
2711
02:06:06.600 --> 02:06:09.159
cared about being useful to humanity. I didn't know what
2712
02:06:09.279 --> 02:06:11.239
to do. I wasn't good at anything. I was kind
2713
02:06:11.279 --> 02:06:13.880
of shitty at most everything. And so I said, Okay,
2714
02:06:13.880 --> 02:06:15.319
I'm going to become an entrepreneur. I'm gonna make a
2715
02:06:15.319 --> 02:06:17.319
whole bunch of money to my age thirty. With money,
2716
02:06:17.359 --> 02:06:19.600
I'm gonna do something epic in the world. And so
2717
02:06:19.920 --> 02:06:22.279
I did that. By thirty four years old, I saw
2718
02:06:22.319 --> 02:06:25.159
my company for three hundred million dollars. But at thirty
2719
02:06:25.199 --> 02:06:28.800
four I was burnt to a crisp. I just smoked,
2720
02:06:29.960 --> 02:06:33.199
and so I needed to recover. And so but then
2721
02:06:33.239 --> 02:06:35.479
I had basically this quite open question like, now I
2722
02:06:35.520 --> 02:06:37.960
have money, what do you do? And so when you
2723
02:06:38.119 --> 02:06:40.760
have basically unlimited optionality in the world. So I spent
2724
02:06:40.920 --> 02:06:43.479
ten years trying to figure that out. And I did
2725
02:06:43.800 --> 02:06:48.600
one thought experiment which really helped bring clarity. Is I
2726
02:06:48.760 --> 02:06:52.880
imagined trans I imagine traveling in time to the year
2727
02:06:52.920 --> 02:06:55.159
twenty five hundred, so a few hundred years into the future,
2728
02:06:55.960 --> 02:06:59.079
and there you are sitting among those that exist, like
2729
02:06:59.159 --> 02:07:01.279
are the human the AI who don't know? But they
2730
02:07:01.760 --> 02:07:05.239
are talking and they're reflecting on the early twenty first century,
2731
02:07:05.279 --> 02:07:09.920
our time, and they're saying, we appreciate Homo sapiens that
2732
02:07:10.159 --> 02:07:12.199
lived in the early twenty fourth century because they did
2733
02:07:12.479 --> 02:07:15.960
blank that allowed intelligence to still exist in the universe.
2734
02:07:16.000 --> 02:07:19.079
What they do like they didn't dessoy themselves. And I
2735
02:07:19.119 --> 02:07:22.199
thought about that question for years. I think they say
2736
02:07:22.239 --> 02:07:26.159
two things. One is they say that's when Homo sapiens
2737
02:07:26.239 --> 02:07:30.520
gave birth to superintelligence. The second thing they say is
2738
02:07:30.640 --> 02:07:33.840
they say the second thing that they'd figured out is
2739
02:07:34.359 --> 02:07:39.880
that they wouldn't die. That they transformed society from a
2740
02:07:39.960 --> 02:07:44.479
culture of die, of like I will pillage you for
2741
02:07:44.600 --> 02:07:47.000
my profit, or I will yold my way to death,
2742
02:07:47.039 --> 02:07:52.079
to exchange for this to existence itself is the highest value.
2743
02:07:52.319 --> 02:07:55.239
There's nothing more valuable than existence. And we will do
2744
02:07:55.479 --> 02:08:00.000
anything to fight for our existence. And so the principle
2745
02:08:00.000 --> 02:08:02.279
as we talked about today of like care, like our
2746
02:08:02.359 --> 02:08:06.560
society would be better off if we really cared for
2747
02:08:06.720 --> 02:08:09.079
each other, if you really could trust each other, like
2748
02:08:09.359 --> 02:08:12.479
genuinely trust. And so what I'm trying to do technically
2749
02:08:12.760 --> 02:08:19.760
is when you it's like pretty technical. Entropy is the
2750
02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:23.039
final boss of the universe. So entropy is the disorder
2751
02:08:23.079 --> 02:08:26.039
of things, the second Lela of thermodynamics. So eventually, like
2752
02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:30.920
a warm cup of coffee goes cold, suns burnout, bodies
2753
02:08:31.000 --> 02:08:35.119
die like things just naturally decay, and so the number
2754
02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:39.479
one enemy of the universe is decay and disorder. And
2755
02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:43.079
life is a rebellion against disorder, like we somehow survive.
2756
02:08:43.680 --> 02:08:45.760
And so what I'm trying to build, like my whole
2757
02:08:45.840 --> 02:08:50.760
goal is to say, as a species, our number one
2758
02:08:50.840 --> 02:08:54.720
goal is to build a new antiin tropic system, like
2759
02:08:54.840 --> 02:08:58.600
a new life system that makes fighting for life then
2760
02:08:58.680 --> 02:09:01.720
number one goal for all things. And you can measure
2761
02:09:02.399 --> 02:09:04.760
entropy or death in all things. You can measure it
2762
02:09:04.840 --> 02:09:06.560
in a physical system, you can measure it in a
2763
02:09:06.560 --> 02:09:10.600
biological system. But you can basically build it computationally. So
2764
02:09:11.079 --> 02:09:13.000
that's like a whole bunch of stuff. But the goal
2765
02:09:13.159 --> 02:09:17.479
is you can measure death, you can build protections against death.
2766
02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:19.960
You can do it in the body, you can do
2767
02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:23.119
it in physical systems. You can align yourself with a eye.
2768
02:09:23.439 --> 02:09:27.680
It's like it's a new ideology, right that I want
2769
02:09:27.760 --> 02:09:31.039
it to become the fastest growing ideology in human history.
2770
02:09:31.880 --> 02:09:35.960
That it helps you understand existence, and it's competitive with
2771
02:09:36.000 --> 02:09:39.399
any major ideology. So there's like I need like honestly
2772
02:09:39.640 --> 02:09:41.520
sixty minutes to explain it, because I know it's like
2773
02:09:41.960 --> 02:09:44.640
I just jammed it up. But it's basically a new
2774
02:09:44.680 --> 02:09:47.640
way to exist that like reframes our reality.
2775
02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:50.079
Well, I do understand what you're saying in the sense
2776
02:09:50.159 --> 02:09:52.800
that a lot of history people have lived as if
2777
02:09:54.279 --> 02:09:56.720
we die, yeah right, yeah, Okay, one day we die,
2778
02:09:56.880 --> 02:09:59.600
there's an afterlife, you can live forever somewhere else, you
2779
02:09:59.640 --> 02:10:02.359
can live extensively somewhere else. But then to have this
2780
02:10:02.840 --> 02:10:08.199
concept and to really live as if don't die, yes,
2781
02:10:08.760 --> 02:10:09.800
then now how do you live?
2782
02:10:10.039 --> 02:10:10.199
Yes?
2783
02:10:10.520 --> 02:10:10.640
Right?
2784
02:10:10.880 --> 02:10:13.800
And that's a whole reframing of things exactly right, right,
2785
02:10:14.039 --> 02:10:17.239
But I do understand that that once you reframe it,
2786
02:10:17.319 --> 02:10:21.520
it's like, oh wow, well a lot more of Yeah,
2787
02:10:21.720 --> 02:10:26.239
if the afterlife or a lot of it can be here, yes, exactly,
2788
02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:30.880
then what rules change for me? What rules change in
2789
02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:34.520
the world, and how does it affect how I play
2790
02:10:34.560 --> 02:10:37.119
the game? Really exactly right? And like the thingacles don't
2791
02:10:37.159 --> 02:10:40.479
die is that you can be Christian and don't die.
2792
02:10:40.800 --> 02:10:42.640
You can be Muslim and don't die. You can be
2793
02:10:42.720 --> 02:10:44.920
capitalist and don't die. You can be anything and don't die.
2794
02:10:44.920 --> 02:10:49.399
Because don't die just says nobody wants to die right now.
2795
02:10:49.920 --> 02:10:51.800
It says nothing about five years from now or twenty
2796
02:10:51.880 --> 02:10:55.960
years from now. The single thing that every human agrees
2797
02:10:55.960 --> 02:10:59.479
to in this moment one thing. Nobody wants to die
2798
02:10:59.560 --> 02:10:59.840
right now.
2799
02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:00.319
That's it.
2800
02:11:00.880 --> 02:11:03.479
After that, there's no agreement on anything. And so if
2801
02:11:03.520 --> 02:11:06.560
you build artificial superintelligence, you're like, what do you do
2802
02:11:06.640 --> 02:11:09.039
with it? It's like, help me make more money, help
2803
02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:11.399
me become better at war, Like help me acquire more power.
2804
02:11:11.840 --> 02:11:14.760
Like what I'm saying is the obvious answer. We say
2805
02:11:14.760 --> 02:11:19.239
to AI. We want to exist, right that's our goal.
2806
02:11:19.800 --> 02:11:21.960
We don't want to destroy ourselves. We don't want to
2807
02:11:22.000 --> 02:11:24.560
die individually. This is not saying we want immortality. It's
2808
02:11:24.560 --> 02:11:26.920
saying we don't want to die right now. So you're
2809
02:11:26.920 --> 02:11:30.039
trying to basically just get a peace accord with all
2810
02:11:30.119 --> 02:11:33.319
humans and all AI and say, can we just strike
2811
02:11:33.479 --> 02:11:37.920
a deal where we have the right to exist. It's
2812
02:11:37.960 --> 02:11:41.119
like the United States said, like, you know, life living
2813
02:11:41.159 --> 02:11:45.079
in the pursuit of happiness. The New Constitution for our
2814
02:11:45.159 --> 02:11:48.960
new species is the right to exist. And that's what
2815
02:11:49.000 --> 02:11:51.399
this whole thing's about. It's just like the very basic
2816
02:11:51.800 --> 02:11:55.279
primal desire. I want to take one more.
2817
02:11:55.199 --> 02:11:59.800
Breath because we've almost grandfathered ourselves into this that we don't.
2818
02:11:59.760 --> 02:12:00.479
That we can't.
2819
02:12:00.920 --> 02:12:04.560
Yeah, that's right exactly. It's like if you don't state
2820
02:12:04.600 --> 02:12:07.479
that as the objective, right, then you pointed a profit.
2821
02:12:07.560 --> 02:12:10.359
And if you pointed a profit, you inevitably like have
2822
02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:13.239
the temptation of saying, I'm going to take your life
2823
02:12:13.960 --> 02:12:16.359
for my profit. I'm gonna give you food that poisons
2824
02:12:16.359 --> 02:12:17.159
you but makes me money.
2825
02:12:17.199 --> 02:12:18.199
It feels like where we're at now.
2826
02:12:18.279 --> 02:12:20.199
Yeah, it feels like we're definitely part of a Uh
2827
02:12:20.640 --> 02:12:22.319
you go all right, I'll give you this, then you hear,
2828
02:12:22.399 --> 02:12:24.319
then you spend there, and then you go to but.
2829
02:12:26.279 --> 02:12:29.239
Brian Johnson, thanks so much man, love it great, bro.
2830
02:12:29.439 --> 02:12:30.199
It was so much fun.
2831
02:12:30.359 --> 02:12:32.239
Yeah, this is it super interesting man.
2832
02:12:32.720 --> 02:12:35.199
Can you can you imagine now a stand up act
2833
02:12:35.239 --> 02:12:36.039
that would just rip me?
2834
02:12:37.520 --> 02:12:37.720
Yeah?
2835
02:12:37.800 --> 02:12:39.760
Well I think, I mean I think I could think
2836
02:12:39.800 --> 02:12:41.279
of a couple of things. I could think one, you
2837
02:12:41.399 --> 02:12:43.199
being on a great roast over there, and that's one
2838
02:12:43.239 --> 02:12:45.800
thing they do at kill Tony they roast everybody, roast everybody,
2839
02:12:45.840 --> 02:12:47.960
so it's like this thing you're just part of the universe,
2840
02:12:48.079 --> 02:12:52.720
you know. And then I could think of a yeah,
2841
02:12:52.840 --> 02:12:54.800
of a great if, like if there was like a
2842
02:12:54.920 --> 02:12:56.479
dope roast and you were one of the people on that,
2843
02:12:56.520 --> 02:12:58.920
people would have the best joke. Yeah, I bet it
2844
02:12:59.039 --> 02:13:00.560
just adds a lot of fun. So I appreciate you
2845
02:13:00.560 --> 02:13:02.760
having a sense of humor about it. What are the
2846
02:13:03.159 --> 02:13:04.680
what is a cheat day? Like, do you ever just
2847
02:13:04.840 --> 02:13:06.800
want to unwind? I did see you had a photo
2848
02:13:06.880 --> 02:13:09.000
of like the fourth like a fourth meal or something
2849
02:13:09.199 --> 02:13:12.520
you had that was on social media the other day.
2850
02:13:13.079 --> 02:13:14.960
There you are just geeked out right there.
2851
02:13:15.720 --> 02:13:18.600
Yeah, I'm trolling there, Okay, got it.
2852
02:13:18.680 --> 02:13:19.680
Yes, there's some tac about this.
2853
02:13:20.680 --> 02:13:23.039
Like I said, decided to live a little because, like
2854
02:13:23.960 --> 02:13:25.720
you know, like it's funny because people are always like,
2855
02:13:25.760 --> 02:13:28.760
bro live a little, but what they're saying is I
2856
02:13:28.920 --> 02:13:31.319
want you to die right to show me you're live,
2857
02:13:32.079 --> 02:13:33.760
and so like right, it's just like it's fun.
2858
02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:35.680
It's kind of true. Live a little.
2859
02:13:36.359 --> 02:13:39.880
In some ways we look at it, especially diet dietitian
2860
02:13:40.079 --> 02:13:44.319
dietetically or whatever we're saying, yeah, man, die, you know.
2861
02:13:44.720 --> 02:13:47.560
Yeah, take the take the you know, die some Yeah,
2862
02:13:47.600 --> 02:13:49.399
they want me to die. So I just I like
2863
02:13:49.479 --> 02:13:51.520
all things. I really enjoy playing. People have a lot
2864
02:13:51.520 --> 02:13:53.520
of fun with me as well. Yeah, but yeah, like
2865
02:13:53.720 --> 02:13:56.800
you know, the funny thing is the cheat day thing, Man,
2866
02:13:57.039 --> 02:13:57.840
I don't want to do it.
2867
02:13:58.199 --> 02:13:59.600
Wow, if you got in the pot where you don't
2868
02:13:59.600 --> 02:14:01.399
want to do it, is it always like.
2869
02:14:01.439 --> 02:14:03.239
That or no, just got there. Like the past couple
2870
02:14:03.239 --> 02:14:04.880
of years, it took me like one hundred reps.
2871
02:14:05.000 --> 02:14:05.439
Like you do it.
2872
02:14:05.479 --> 02:14:08.399
You're like, I'm I'm gonna do it and be fun,
2873
02:14:08.520 --> 02:14:11.479
and then it happens. You're like, goddamn, it's so worse.
2874
02:14:11.640 --> 02:14:14.159
It's never worth it. It's so I learned a lesson.
2875
02:14:14.560 --> 02:14:17.399
It's never ever, ever, ever, ever ever ever ever worth it.
2876
02:14:17.920 --> 02:14:19.479
It just doesn't Like I don't know of a situation
2877
02:14:19.560 --> 02:14:21.920
where I did something. I'm like, yeah, you know what now,
2878
02:14:22.000 --> 02:14:23.840
like when I did when I stayed, when I went
2879
02:14:23.880 --> 02:14:26.479
to bed early, went to the rave in the mid
2880
02:14:26.600 --> 02:14:28.760
of the night, I got to dance worth it?
2881
02:14:29.079 --> 02:14:29.199
Right?
2882
02:14:29.760 --> 02:14:32.760
But like you know, fast food meal. Like, so my
2883
02:14:32.800 --> 02:14:35.800
team right now is were they're they're trying to convince
2884
02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:38.520
me to get drunk on a live stream as an experiment,
2885
02:14:39.239 --> 02:14:41.800
So like what does alcohol do to the body, So
2886
02:14:41.920 --> 02:14:43.920
we do the same thing. We'd measure all the markers,
2887
02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:46.600
we look at my impairment. So like if I were
2888
02:14:46.840 --> 02:14:48.680
I would an experiment like that. But otherwise, like just
2889
02:14:48.800 --> 02:14:51.039
have fun. Like no, man, it's it's miserable.
2890
02:14:51.760 --> 02:14:52.159
I hate it.
2891
02:14:52.800 --> 02:14:54.680
Has this challenged your faith? Has any of the uh
2892
02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:57.960
has it challenged? Which you where your faith lies? I
2893
02:14:58.079 --> 02:15:00.560
know because you grew up in a Mormon communities, right, yeah?
2894
02:15:00.800 --> 02:15:04.000
And has it challenged, which I think is a great
2895
02:15:04.000 --> 02:15:08.439
community by the way, Yeah, has any of your practices challenged,
2896
02:15:08.479 --> 02:15:11.439
any of your beliefs or your relationship with that community?
2897
02:15:11.520 --> 02:15:14.159
Yeah, I I I joke with my my Mormon friends,
2898
02:15:14.199 --> 02:15:16.720
I'm a better Mormon than they are. I'm I'm like
2899
02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:20.119
the best Mormon, you know, like, uh, you know, because
2900
02:15:21.840 --> 02:15:23.800
sugar is the currency in the Mormons. Like you can't
2901
02:15:23.960 --> 02:15:26.159
do there's not pre mertal sex, you can't do porn,
2902
02:15:26.319 --> 02:15:28.760
like there's all a bunch of doo. You can't drink coffee. Yeah, right,
2903
02:15:28.840 --> 02:15:31.479
so when you have like a whole bunch of nose, like,
2904
02:15:31.680 --> 02:15:35.159
it's gotta go somewhere. So sugar is like the escape route.
2905
02:15:35.760 --> 02:15:39.039
And so yeah, exactly, so I didn't mess around with them.
2906
02:15:39.079 --> 02:15:42.319
But like, the thing is, like the for me, the
2907
02:15:42.520 --> 02:15:46.880
whole in the world is that we're in this wacky
2908
02:15:46.960 --> 02:15:51.319
situation where we're conscious in the universe, Like what the
2909
02:15:51.439 --> 02:15:52.159
fuck is going on?
2910
02:15:52.920 --> 02:15:54.640
It's talk about it every day.
2911
02:15:54.720 --> 02:15:57.479
It's so bizarre, and so then like given the bizarreness,
2912
02:15:58.479 --> 02:16:01.560
there's all these ways of being like let me explain
2913
02:16:01.640 --> 02:16:04.680
the situation, right, like but like I don't know. I'm
2914
02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:07.720
more of the opinion of like how do we know? Right?
2915
02:16:07.880 --> 02:16:10.199
What are we talking about? And so like, But then
2916
02:16:10.800 --> 02:16:13.359
if you say, like who says they don't know, it's
2917
02:16:13.439 --> 02:16:15.399
a very very very small number of people whos in
2918
02:16:15.600 --> 02:16:17.479
like atheists and they don't know. But that's kind of
2919
02:16:17.560 --> 02:16:19.680
like a defeatist mentality. It's like we don't know, but
2920
02:16:19.800 --> 02:16:23.079
like whatever, It's like what's missing in the world is
2921
02:16:23.119 --> 02:16:26.920
an ideology that's like we don't really know and we
2922
02:16:27.039 --> 02:16:30.239
have gusto. Like what because when you're in a religion,
2923
02:16:31.319 --> 02:16:33.719
like you've got gusto to serve God and to like
2924
02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:35.959
do you know by the commandments? And like, but like
2925
02:16:36.079 --> 02:16:37.879
where does an ideology that couples up I don't know
2926
02:16:38.000 --> 02:16:40.440
and has gusto and that's what's missing the world. That's
2927
02:16:40.479 --> 02:16:42.680
what I found is like you you can intellectually be
2928
02:16:42.799 --> 02:16:45.840
like legit pretty hard to know what's going on. Also,
2929
02:16:46.440 --> 02:16:49.559
like we can stand up, we can like we have
2930
02:16:50.120 --> 02:16:53.639
power right now, like it wasn't before AI. You're doomed,
2931
02:16:53.760 --> 02:16:55.719
Like no matter what you said, you're off to death.
2932
02:16:56.680 --> 02:17:00.319
With AI. This is the first time ever a human
2933
02:17:00.360 --> 02:17:02.000
could be like you know what, I got a strut
2934
02:17:02.639 --> 02:17:04.159
like I'm gonna pull my chest out and like I
2935
02:17:04.280 --> 02:17:06.760
feel I feel confident I can do something, and so
2936
02:17:06.920 --> 02:17:08.719
like we're at this brand new thing. And that's what
2937
02:17:08.719 --> 02:17:11.360
I'm saying, Like this moment is why you think about that?
2938
02:17:11.479 --> 02:17:14.639
Just because the the ability that the average person can have. Now, yeah,
2939
02:17:14.719 --> 02:17:16.360
like I mean you look at AI.
2940
02:17:17.520 --> 02:17:17.879
I mean like.
2941
02:17:20.520 --> 02:17:25.959
You basically are giving birth to God, right like like
2942
02:17:26.040 --> 02:17:27.760
we when we talk about God, if we say, like
2943
02:17:27.840 --> 02:17:31.879
God is omnipotent, right, omnipotent God is blank by blank,
2944
02:17:31.879 --> 02:17:35.319
Like we basically assign these powers of like anything, and
2945
02:17:35.520 --> 02:17:39.239
on some kind of timescale. AI is kind of that,
2946
02:17:39.920 --> 02:17:42.840
like when it's that and how it's that like TBD,
2947
02:17:43.360 --> 02:17:46.479
but it's like generally that and so when you actually
2948
02:17:47.079 --> 02:17:51.120
have like the potential of building like billions of gods
2949
02:17:51.479 --> 02:17:55.040
or god like powers of like we've imagined, Like, why
2950
02:17:55.079 --> 02:17:58.040
wouldn't you immediately level up your your ambition by like
2951
02:17:58.159 --> 02:17:59.639
a thousand x right.
2952
02:17:59.600 --> 02:18:04.559
Because you're you're taking some of the more practical possibilities
2953
02:18:04.600 --> 02:18:08.280
of God and making them more usable to the everyday person. Exactly,
2954
02:18:08.399 --> 02:18:11.319
You're still not able to replicate like a relationship that
2955
02:18:11.639 --> 02:18:13.840
is like spiritual in nature.
2956
02:18:13.879 --> 02:18:15.079
Though, do you think why not?
2957
02:18:15.479 --> 02:18:18.000
I mean, it's just a biochemical reaction, right, I.
2958
02:18:18.000 --> 02:18:20.040
Don't know if you think somebody just messaging with like
2959
02:18:20.120 --> 02:18:21.959
a fictional thing is going to make them feel the
2960
02:18:22.000 --> 02:18:23.760
same way as if they feel like there's some connection
2961
02:18:23.879 --> 02:18:28.479
to us to an actual, like molecular existing.
2962
02:18:28.840 --> 02:18:29.639
Force in the world.
2963
02:18:29.799 --> 02:18:32.319
I do I think that basically you think it's the
2964
02:18:32.360 --> 02:18:36.479
same Basically when so you are seventy trillion sales when
2965
02:18:36.520 --> 02:18:43.000
theovon experiences love or God or like, take what everything
2966
02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:46.040
that is a biochemical pattern?
2967
02:18:46.280 --> 02:18:46.559
Got it?
2968
02:18:47.479 --> 02:18:52.479
And you can produce it with prayer, with psychedelics, with meditation,
2969
02:18:53.120 --> 02:18:55.920
with sex, right, Like, there's so many ways to replicate
2970
02:18:56.000 --> 02:18:59.520
these experiences. So like if AI is able to develop
2971
02:18:59.639 --> 02:19:02.360
drugs and or experiences, and or if we have implants
2972
02:19:02.440 --> 02:19:04.959
and or like you can you can basically just map
2973
02:19:05.040 --> 02:19:09.920
it back. It's very hard to identify an emergent experience
2974
02:19:09.959 --> 02:19:12.079
we have right now and not be able to pull
2975
02:19:12.120 --> 02:19:16.000
back the curtain and say, here's what happened biochemically. Now,
2976
02:19:16.079 --> 02:19:19.920
like I'm open to other ways to explain the world
2977
02:19:20.040 --> 02:19:22.760
that you can't find a biochemical scinction for totally open
2978
02:19:22.799 --> 02:19:25.719
to that. But like in my experience everything I am,
2979
02:19:26.200 --> 02:19:28.280
I can see the data like it is a very
2980
02:19:28.399 --> 02:19:31.799
clear reveal. And so yeah, will humans be able to
2981
02:19:31.920 --> 02:19:38.280
experience transcendence and you know, unconditional love and extreme fulfillment
2982
02:19:38.360 --> 02:19:42.239
of purpose and like locked in engagement, yes, like all
2983
02:19:42.280 --> 02:19:46.079
those things, and so I actually I'm very friendly towards
2984
02:19:46.159 --> 02:19:48.799
religions like no matter who you are, no matter what
2985
02:19:48.879 --> 02:19:52.559
you believe in great right like don't die is something
2986
02:19:52.600 --> 02:19:54.760
we can all agree to, and so like if someone
2987
02:19:54.840 --> 02:19:57.719
says they believe in afterlife, super like you can still
2988
02:19:57.760 --> 02:20:00.440
have your afterlife. This is not taken away your after life.
2989
02:20:00.719 --> 02:20:02.239
This is just saying like, right now we want to
2990
02:20:02.239 --> 02:20:04.879
cooperate because we love the game of life. If that
2991
02:20:04.959 --> 02:20:07.399
means you want to procrastinate your afterlife for another one
2992
02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:09.399
hundred years, it's still gonna be there for you, like
2993
02:20:09.440 --> 02:20:12.680
it's not going away. So it's really about trying to strike.
2994
02:20:12.760 --> 02:20:14.920
So it's the same thing about food. Like I'm not
2995
02:20:15.440 --> 02:20:18.879
carnivore or vegan or palea or whatever. I'm not anti religion,
2996
02:20:18.920 --> 02:20:22.000
I'm not for I'm just like we're all good, like everyone,
2997
02:20:22.200 --> 02:20:25.239
We're all good. We can be together, we can like
2998
02:20:25.600 --> 02:20:27.639
play the game together. We don't need to fight each other.
2999
02:20:28.040 --> 02:20:29.319
No one needs to be right or wrong. We just
3000
02:20:29.360 --> 02:20:32.040
want to agree that existence is awesome. So that's like
3001
02:20:32.319 --> 02:20:34.600
just trying to call peace of all intelligence. Let's not fight,
3002
02:20:34.879 --> 02:20:37.559
no more killing. It should be cool, amen, man.
3003
02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:40.239
Because I wonder sometimes if like when when kids interact
3004
02:20:40.280 --> 02:20:41.879
with a I and stuff like that, dude, they feel
3005
02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:44.440
like it's like the same as if I feel if
3006
02:20:44.440 --> 02:20:47.000
I'm interacting with a real person, you know, because yeah,
3007
02:20:47.000 --> 02:20:48.520
I just don't know if you could ever get that huh,
3008
02:20:48.600 --> 02:20:52.159
you know, that kind of hug feeling of like of
3009
02:20:52.280 --> 02:20:54.319
your god, whoever your god is, or something. I wonder
3010
02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:56.799
if you could ever get that hug feeling if like
3011
02:20:56.959 --> 02:21:01.840
something that was yeah, like man made or synthetic kind
3012
02:21:01.879 --> 02:21:04.680
of hypothetically synthetic with would ever be the same. But
3013
02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:09.360
I mean, I think it's all interesting conversation. And and look, man,
3014
02:21:09.399 --> 02:21:11.440
you're out there on the front lines. You're like the
3015
02:21:11.600 --> 02:21:14.479
only one in your in this war, like you're like
3016
02:21:14.559 --> 02:21:18.959
your own Vietnam dude out you know. So it's really
3017
02:21:19.040 --> 02:21:23.680
cool and I really appreciate your time. Man, Tell tow Lee,
3018
02:21:23.760 --> 02:21:28.440
tell tal Muche. We said what's up? And yeah, and
3019
02:21:28.520 --> 02:21:31.120
Brian Johnson, thanks so much, dude. I'm gonna grab some
3020
02:21:31.200 --> 02:21:32.479
of that olive will. I do want to get some
3021
02:21:32.639 --> 02:21:33.680
of it, and uh.
3022
02:21:33.920 --> 02:21:34.920
I'll say i'll send you something.
3023
02:21:35.319 --> 02:21:37.760
Well I'll support man, But thank you. But thank you
3024
02:21:37.840 --> 02:21:39.360
even for coming, dude and just sharing a lot of
3025
02:21:39.639 --> 02:21:41.760
this with us. I think it's not just uh it's
3026
02:21:41.840 --> 02:21:46.040
not just about milligrams in this and but it's kind
3027
02:21:46.079 --> 02:21:48.399
of like a life idea and it's a change of perspective.
3028
02:21:48.760 --> 02:21:51.159
Yeah, you know, so I understand it.
3029
02:21:51.239 --> 02:21:52.719
Yeah. I love hanging it out man. It was really
3030
02:21:52.760 --> 02:21:53.600
fun me too. Bro.
3031
02:21:53.719 --> 02:21:55.360
I know you said we saw each other at the UFC.
3032
02:21:55.760 --> 02:21:58.200
I remember now seeing your face for a second. Yeah,
3033
02:21:58.559 --> 02:22:00.760
and uh, but I'm glad to again. We'll have to
3034
02:22:00.799 --> 02:22:01.319
get to one soon.
3035
02:22:01.479 --> 02:22:02.799
Yeah. Cool, all right, thank you, brother.
3036
02:22:03.520 --> 02:22:06.799
I'm just falling on the breeze, and I feel I'm
3037
02:22:06.959 --> 02:22:15.200
falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone, but when
3038
02:22:15.280 --> 02:22:18.639
I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind
3039
02:22:18.760 --> 02:22:24.120
by foul. I can see it in my falls, so
3040
02:22:24.319 --> 02:22:25.399
it's gonna tage