Rob McConnell Interviews - JOE DIAMOND - Mind Reader, Mystic Artist/Magician

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All Henry, Welcome to the xisone, a place where fact
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is fiction and fiction is reality. Now here's your host,
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Robert Connell.
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Hello, Yet, it's been a while, not much. How about you.
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I'm not sure why I call I guess I really
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just wanted to talk to you, and I was thinking
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maybe later on we could get together for a while.
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It's been such.
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A long time and around mess.
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And welcome to our number two of tonight show. Here
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from the studios and corporate offices of Berlmar McConnell Media
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Company in Saint Catharine's, Ontario, Canada, on the X Zone
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xxone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA. All right, My
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second guest tonight is Joe Diamond. We're going to be
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talking about mind reading, mentalism, magic, seance, history and a
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lot of other great things. Joining me now from what Stock,
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Illinois is Joe Diamond and Joe. Welcome to the X Zone.
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Thank you so much for having me, Rob, it's a
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joy to be here.
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Oh, thank you. Tell us a little bit about yourself
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and what got you started in the profession you're in now.
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Oh it's a long story. How long do we have?
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I'll keep it short. I'll give you the cliff notes
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for you.
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All right.
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I've always been attracted to the strange and unusual. I
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was the weird kid, you know, you know, reading reading
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ghost stories and doing my best story tell them. I
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also grew up at a time where like it was
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right after the late eighties, so like Ghostbusters had come
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and gone, but I was like the last kid still
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into them, you know. So I was just just like
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a slight step out of time with all the other kids.
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I was the one watching Nick at night growing up.
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So I watched Twilight Zone and Alfred Hitchcock Presents and
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Dragnett E then stuff and so yeah, the good ones. Yeah.
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So but when I went to school the next day
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to talk to the kids about them, they had no
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idea what I was talking about. Like, no, no, it's
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a served man, it's a cookbook. And the kids would
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be like, what and so, but that didn't stop me.
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I was always into the strange and unusual. I read
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about everything from UFOs and crop circles to psychics like
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Uri Geller, and magicians and you know, ghost real life
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ghostbusters like Harry Houdini. And I read a lot of
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books growing up, so much so but that by the
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time I got to second grade, I had a twelfth
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grade reading level, which sounds impressive, but I still have
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a twelfth grade reading level. I hate early and so yeah,
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so I got interested. I got a magic hit like
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most kids. But what I was really interested in were
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the people like again, the psychics, the hypnosis, the mind readers,
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and I got some books from the library and how
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to read palms, and my great grandmother taught me how
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to read playing cards just like tarot cards, and I
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kind of just started doing shows in the Chicago Land area.
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I had a couple of mentors that were really kind
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that took me under their wing, and over the last
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you know, fifteen to twenty years, it's been my professional
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job to go to house parties and corporate events. And
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now thanks to my appearance on recently on the show
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Penn and Teller Foolus, where I read their minds and
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predicted the outcome of the show and read the palm
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of host Brooke Burke, who was also my childhood crush.
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So that was a very odd full circle moment as well.
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I get to travel all around the country and beyond,
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doing shows in theaters various ponded locations where instead of
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standing on stage and pulling a rabbit out of a
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hat like a more traditional magician, I stand on stage
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and pull thoughts out of out of people's minds. I've
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done everything from telling people their pin codes, both currents
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and old ones. I stick to old ones now with
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the way the world is right now, but I've told
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people the name of their first crush. One person I
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did that for was Ari Lehman, the first person to
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play Jason Voorhe's in the Friday the Thirteenth series, and
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when I told him the name of his first crush,
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within a few minutes of meeting him out of nowhere,
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he freaked out and said, dude, you're scary, and I
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was just like, oh my god, I scared the hockey.
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Mass killer, Yeah exactly.
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This is a fun way to make a living, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So what was like working doing the show with Penn
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and Teller.
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It was really hard because they don't like psychics. They're
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very skeptical. They don't like even menalists, and and Pen
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has said a lot of we'll just say not positive
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or nice things about people I grew up admiring, like
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I grew up admiring them, but I also grew up
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admiring people like the amazing Creskin and a regular and
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Pendulette has said has not shared my same passion for
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the work of those people, which is, you know, all
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fair and love and war and show business. Yeah, that's
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that's fine. But I had auditioned every year since the
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show began and never got on until this last year,
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which was which was fascinating. Originally the producers did want
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me to do something with tarot cards, and last minute
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they asked me to change it to playing cards, which
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I don't know if they felt it was too I
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don't know if they felt that would be pushed back
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from the network. I don't know if they felt Penn
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and Teller wouldn't like it. I don't know the reasons
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for it. I was okay with it. I'm very flexible
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and I'm very okay with how the clip turned out
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because again I got to play with each of them,
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talk about themselves, talk about me, each of our histories,
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and they could not have been more pleasant. They actually
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said this was their favorite kind of mentalism because what
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I did took actual mental effort. And that's one of
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the things I do pride myself on, is the amount
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of work I do put in, because there are some
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people who will do magic tricks to make it look
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like they know how to do something like just for example,
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reading a palm or knowing what you knowing what someone's thinking,
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when there are actual techniques like you can get an
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actual book on how to actually read a poem, or
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how to actually read someone's mind through something like you know,
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contact mind rating or helstremism like the amazing Creskin has
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talked about numerous times. And sure, there's ways to fake that,
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but that takes the fun out of it, and that
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takes some of the joy and mystery out of it.
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And I don't know if people who have faked it
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have had very long standing careers. Without going into too
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much of that, but it was very fun to go
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and work on the biggest stage in Vegas and and
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again ended up you know Brooke Burke is a little
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bit more on the mystical side as well. So when
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she asked me to read her palm, I was totally
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star struck and she ended up hugging me, which at
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that point I was like, I'll take this over over
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a trophy any day. So that was that was a real,
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real treat because again it's something not a lot of
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people in my industry get to do. Let alone, this
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this sort of narrow niche of you know of it
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where the hypnotists and menalists and psychic entertainers hang out.
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Joe, how does mind reading work?
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So there's a lot of there's a lot of different
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techniques you can use for it. One technique is just
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plain and simple intuition. There are so many times throughout
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our daily lives where we get a feeling or an urge,
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or we meet someone and we go, oh, I have
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a weird feeling. I don't know, there's a weird feeling
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about that person. And part of the secret is in
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a stage format, in a stage show entertainment format like
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I'm doing, we get to see if I'm right or not.
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And you don't get to see if you're right on
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a daily basis. And even if you were to just
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randomly go up to people and say, hey, I have
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a weird vibe about you. Are you okay? I think
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ninety nine percent of the population would lie and say
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yes when the real answer was no, especially to a
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complete stranger, because I've done that to people I know
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and love. So that's that is one simple, simple answer.
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The other answers yes. Of course, there is a lot
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of psychology into what I what I do. There is
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a lot of what you know again, magicians use the
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term sleight of hand. I like to use the term
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slight of mind. It's funny too, because a lot of
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you know again, more traditional magicians will be very skeptical
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when it comes with something like intuition. And yet all
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of them will say when they go to pick people
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for their shows, like to find an audience volunteer, they'll
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just pick people just based on their intuition in the
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moment standing on stage, and something in them from just
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doing that show a million times lets them know, Oh,
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this person will be perfect for the next routine, not
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that person. This person the same way of staying up
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comedian you know, develops you know, a sixth sense. They
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go Okay, this next joke isn't going to work. Do
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this joke instead. So there is something to the perform
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the live performance environment where you know, performers of all
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kinds do develop a sort of intuitive sixth sense working
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with the audience. Uh, you know, hopefully even further than that.
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And I you know, there's dozens and dozens of techniques
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from you know again, intuition, to body language to unconventional
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you know, uh, even techniques that were that have been
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kind of seemed too controversial by you know, by some
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magicians to even try or or rely upon. But if
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you work on them enough, you can start to learn
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to rely upon them.
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Joe, how about reading body language?
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What's funny is that I know some people who are
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great at it. A good friend of mine does seminars
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on by language. I'm actually not great at it. The
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more I personally try to go like Sherlock Holmes and
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like overanalyze something, the more wrong I am. Wow, the
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more I tend to turn it off and try to
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just go with what comes to me initially. That's that's
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typically what the less analytical I am, that's when I
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typically am the most bright.
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All right, Joe, stand by We've got to take our
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first commercial break exon Nation, and our guest this hour
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is Joe Diamond. His website is Joe Diamondlive dot com
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Welcome back here, everyone, This is the excellent i'me Rob McConnell,
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this hour. Www Dot Joe Diamond Live Dot Calm. All right, Joe, Well,
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we were talking about reading people, you know, like basically
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we all have that ability, just like I know, you know,
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the intuition. I've had many experiences of intuition in my life,
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and whenever I've gone against my gut feeling, I paid
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for it.
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Yes. Well, and that's the other thing too. I often say,
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maybe not the whole secret, but definitely the first fifty
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one percent of the secret is sticking to your gut.
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I mean, so how often have you had your first
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gut instinct and then gone, I'm gonna switch over, and
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then later on gone I should have gone with my
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gut instinct. It is just sticking to that first gut
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instinct and not doubting yourself, which again is kind of
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where the body language stuff. Again, it just comes really
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naturally to some people. But that becomes the thing, that
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second that I use to second guess my initial gut
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instinct whether I'm doing you know, And there's a lot
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of different theories we could go into whether I'm doing
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that unconsciously at such a rate that even I don't
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realize whether it's coming from another source. I don't know
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there is a certain point where even I am okay
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with just saying I'm comfortable with being in the mystery,
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and I want to give people that experience of the
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mystery for themselves, because so many people, I think, especially
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in this day and age, are looking for are looking
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for answers, and they're not comfortable with just saying I
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don't know. And I think that's okay to say and
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not just making something up and just going like it's
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this or this, And I think it's okay to just
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finally go, you know what, I don't know. And if
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I want to communicate that to other people, I think
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it's got to start with me. You know.
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I understand you captured some photographs of haunted locations and
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to have countless unexplained coincidences and synchronicities tell us about
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a few of them.
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So so for a while, for about the better part
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of ten years, I was working and this wasn't a plan.
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almost exclusively haunted locations. I was at a place in
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Crystal Lake called called the Dole Mansion, which I'm not
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supposed to talk too much about this, but there's no
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more artists in the building. We'll just say that some
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of the activity got so off the charts there that
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they ended up canceling the leases of all the artists there.
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which turns out to be a good thing. And I'll
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just leave it at that until more information comes out
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about that place. I love the shows I did there,
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the people I worked with, they're all positive. Nothing on
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this material, playing nothing but positive things to say about that.
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is arguably the most haunted location in the state, if
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not the entire Midwest. I know a lot of people
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like to talk about the Joliet Prison and places like that,
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but the Woodstock Opera House has so many occurrences and
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so much and so many legends. There was actually a
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paranormal conference there this last year, and so many people,
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like in broad daylight when tons of people were around,
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had stuff happening. Cell phones were dying, people were there
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with different equipment that were just randomly going off at
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noon in broad daylight, and a lot of it is
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attributed to a ghost called Elvira. Now, there's a lot
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of different theories as to who Elvira is or what
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Elvira is. The common consensus is that she is the
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ghost of an actress that took her own life after
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she was scorn by by her lover. And there's a
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couple different stories. Some say she leapt from the tower,
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some say she poisoned herself and went to sleep in
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a CDD one one three which is actually dedicated to
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her in the theater. And I actually performed there this
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last Halloween, and there was a lot of different things
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that people caught on camera, some of which is on
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my social media. It's the same as my website, Joe
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Diamond Live. You can see it on my Instagram and
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on my Facebook page as well. People shared their photos
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from those experiences, everything from orbs to like a shadowy
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figure almost like over the chair. People felt cold spots,
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and also people were able to pick up on different
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things in different areas of the basement because there was
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also a death in the basement years ago. A vagrant
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was down there during a wrestling match upstairs. He had
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gotten in to get cold to escape the cold started
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a fire. The fire actually got out of hand and
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all four hundred people in this sold out wrestling match
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leapt out of these second story windows onto the roof
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of the building next door and ran downstairs. No one
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died except for the vagrant in the basement, which is
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a minor miracle in and of itself. But we actually
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did take a paranormal tour down there recently, and again
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people caught everything from shadows on cameras to orbs to
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a lot of people were using pendulums that were going
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just absolutely crazy and wild down there. Also have been
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the official mind rader at the Maxwell Mansion in Lake Sheneva, Wisconsin,
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which is about a half hour north of Woodstock, Illinois.
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Maxwell Mansion is now a boutique hotel, but it has
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speakeasy downstairs, which is where in the eighteen hundreds doctor
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Maxwell would have done a lot of we'll just say
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unnecessary surgeries. And everyone on staff there has a story.
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Everyone has seen stuff on the first and second floors
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and down in the speakeasy. And I didn't have anything
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happen to me there until my wife and I were
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staying there overnight for her birthday. The old owner let
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us stay there and we were the only ones in
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the building, and the last night my wife went to bed.
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She's an early bird. I'm a night owl. So I
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stayed up reading a book in the ballroom, which is
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right over where the surgeries are. In fact, there's a
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drain pipe down there that if you look it looks
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to be painted red. They keep saying it's painted over red,
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but that's because they just couldn't fully clean it. And
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that's that's what the old owner said. So I'm right
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over that spot read, you know. And the house is beautiful,
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it's gorgeous. It's been kept up very well. But I'm
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reading this book by the fire in the gorgeous ballroom.
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I finished my drink, I stand up and I look
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in the mirror over the fireplace, and I saw someone
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standing over my left shoulder, and I turned around to
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see who it was. No one was there. And I
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turned back and looked in the mirror and no one
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was there. Now full disclosure. I again, I was drinking.
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either the spirits or the spirits. Full disclosure. Again, the
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fact that it was right over that spot, we were
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the only ones in the building, and and again it
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was enough for me to just go all right. Finally,
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finally had something happen happen to me in this building, Joe.
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Why are the spirits hanging around? Why don't they go
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to wherever spirits go when they're finished their earthly you know,
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whatever they do here on earth.
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I I don't know which one I fully subscribe to
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yet I'm still when it when it comes to ghosts,
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I'm still.
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Very much the Uh It's it's definitely something that's that's
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adjacent to my work. It's it's not like the main focus.
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I definitely you know, invoke them more for like you know,
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again when I'm in haunted locations and around Halloween and such.
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But like I'm not doing a lot of like you know,
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ghostly themed events. When I'm going to like you know,
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corporate events and you know, other other types of theaters
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and such. They in those events, they want me to
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stick to strictly mind rating and that's fine. But again,
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when you're performing in a place like the with Stock
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Opera House on Halloween night, you gotta talk about the ghosts,
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of course you can't not. Uh So, my friend Born Purcell,
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who's a psychic media and she she'd be great to
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have on the show too. She's often told me about
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you know how spirits, Uh, spirits often aren't or and
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never were people, and ghosts are people who have passed away,
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who have unfinished business, who who stick around. So there
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is technically I kind of use spirits and ghosts pretty interchangeably,
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and I probably shouldn't. But but as as far as
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I know, that's that's really the the distinction. But again,
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I just classify it all under the paranormal. I again,
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that's those are the those are the moments and paranormal
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occurrences I've had. Again, I've caught some things on camera,
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and I've had other strange occurrences we can get into later.
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But I feel like those aren't any more than I
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think the average person. I do think the average person
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does experience a lot of paranormal activity, but a lot
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of people just brush it off as being a trick
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of the eye or even worse, a coincidence. Yeah, and
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when someone says like, oh, that's just a coincidence, I
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always try to point out that that's more disturbing. The
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idea that no one or nothing was pulling the strings
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to make this happen is actually more mysterious when you
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really think about.
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It, I understand that you hacked the Pentagon without a
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computer using your brain.
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Oh yes, yes, Well, well, how how long do we have,
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uh until the until the next break, because this is
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a not a long story, but a dense story, all right, I.
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Don't want to Yeah, well, yeah, we've got about a
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minute and a half before the next break. So that's
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a good idea, holding on to it.
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Okay, Yeah, So so we'll tease that for the for
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the next moment and uh, but all I'll say is
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it happened by accident, and I have a couple thousand,
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uh firsthand witnesses as well, so for anyone who is
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skeptical on the story, it happened back in uh twenty sixteen.
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And I'll tell the full story when we come back,
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so that way, I'm not rushing through anything that sounds
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like when we'll come back from the next segment.
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All right, explanation. Our guests this hour is Joe Diamond.
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His website is www dot Joe Diamondlive dot com. Interesting,
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truly interesting, my boggling. Did you get that? It's a
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little mind boggling. I'm sorry about that, Joe, and I
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will be back on the other side of this break
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as the exone continues with yours truly Rob McConnell from
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our broadcast enter in studios in St. Catherine's, Ontario, Canada,
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and we're you're listening to us right now on your
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hometown radio, Classic twelve twenty and streamed around the world
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on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. I'll be back with
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my guests on the other side of this very short break.
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Don't go away, sweet Jeeves a Lada.
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And to designs.
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M hmm, if you could read my my love what
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till my fats could tell just like old time, moving
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out the ghost from motion Well in a Castle dun
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or fortress John with jeans upon my feet.
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And welcome back everyone. Joe Diamond's our special guest this hour,
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Joe Diamond Live dot Com. And that was if you
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Could Read My Mind by Gordon Lightfoot, one of my
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favorite songs and so appropriate for this segment. Con Uh,
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we were gonna tell us about how you hacked the
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White House? Uh, the what's got pedagon technical?
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So this is so first off, this was on ninety
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five will Rock Radio on the Wisconsin Illinois border at
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some point I believe it was on a Friday the
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thirteenth in twenty sixteen. I'd had to look at the
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exact date, but I was on the radio and at
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the time. I so, there is a video of my
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previous appearance on this morning radio show. I've been on
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the show dozens of times over the years, and they
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challenged me to guess one of the radio hosts iPhone codes.
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And I was like, well, if I have her think
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of just one digit at a time, I can probably
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figure it out and you know, type of man one
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at a time and unlock her phone. So I did,
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and the phone opened, and it kind of went viral
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in the Chicago Land area. Everywhere I went for the
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better part of a year, people would just hand me
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their phones and be like, here, unlock it. Try to
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unlock my phone, try to gets my past code, which
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very different times now after without getting too much into it,
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but after the last few political presidential elections and such,
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especially when it comes to emails and passwords and all that,
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and we'll just leave it there. Also after a global pandemic,
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I don't want to be touching people's phones after all
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that anymore. So I do still do this. I'll lot
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of people think of their old pin codes and such,
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and I'll guess those and I do that still very often.
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But the next time it's on that radio show, they
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replayed the clip and we were la about it and
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we get a phone call and they answer that it's
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not a local Chicago land or Milwaukee area code, and
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so they answer it and the woman says, Hi, my
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name is Susan. I'm calling from the Pentagon and this
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is live, live radio at like eight thirty in the morning.
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The one host is like, mm hmm, yeah, and she
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she googles the area code and then the full number
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and sure enough, it's a it's a landline for the
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offices at the Pentagon, so it's a it's a legit number.
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And she goes, I want to talk to the mind
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reader guy. And I'm like, Susan, I can hear you.
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She says, Okay, Joe, I have a question for you.
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Do you need to be in the same room with
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someone to guess an iPhone password? Now, Rob, I'm going
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to put this in perspective again. This was mid twenty sixteen.
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This was the time when Apple was in the news
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every single day with the FBI as to whether or
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not they could or should unlock a terrorist sciphone that
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they had gotten. Right, So I am again eight thirty am.
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I have live radio. I immediately start backpedaling. I immediately
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am like, I don't want to be taken away by
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the white Vans or black vans or any of that.
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You know. I don't want it. I don't want it.
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I'm doing this. My calling is to be an entertainer.
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I don't want to. No, I don't want to. So
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I say, yes, it does work better if I'm in
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the room with the person or something like that, and
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to just kind of pivot and yes, And from my
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experience as a performer, I say, but I can do
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something with you over the right. Now, Susan, could you
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think of a playing card and a deck, because I'm thinking, okay,
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just do playing cards. Change the subject, get off the
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subject of pin numbers and all that. Just make sure
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to do something, you.
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Know, not to mention, keeping the NSA, the CIA, and
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FBI off your tail.
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Yeah, yeah, we're on a morning radio show. Let's keep
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it fun in life. Let's keep it. Think of a
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playing card, Susan. And now I have actually closed my
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shows since I was a teenager with calling someone on
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a cell phone and having them think of a card
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and I guess it over the phone. So I've done
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this a lot, and it was perfect because it was like,
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oh my gosh, I get to said this is great
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in my mind. I'm like, I'm gonna be able to
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segue into one of my closing pieces for my show.
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It'll be great. It'll be a good way to kind
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of yes and and move away from it. I take
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out a card from behind my back. I don't even
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look at it. I put a face down on the table.
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I stay, Susan, there's a card face down on the table.
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Everyone in the studio is watching. We got all the
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cameras going for the live stream, so people are watching.
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I can't switch that card. I can't change it. Tell
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us what card are you thinking of? She says, to
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A Diamonds. The host turns over the card. It's the
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to A Diamonds and pandemonium breaks out in the In
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the radio station, the two hosts start freaking out and
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they start repeating, oh my god, Joe Diamond just hacked
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the Pentagon. Joe Diamond just hacked the Pentagon with his brain.
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And I'm like, oh no, Now, the white fans are
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definitely gonna come. So I'm like, well, it's it so again,
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you know, playing mister you know, mister nach Peddler Tuesday
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Morning Drive, you know eight am. Well, Susan's a good thing.
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We actually think of a playing card. Thank you so much,
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you know. So now in my head though, I'm thinking,
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oh my god, when I come in. So, I was
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hosting my own paranormal talk show on Sunday nights on
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this radio station's sister station. They were on ninety five
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will Rock FM, and then they had AM ten fifty
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wlip out of Kenosha Am. So I was like, oh
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my god, when I come in on Sunday, I'm going
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to pull the audio and the video from this because
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I would do that for my show all the time.
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And I'm thinking, in my head, oh my god, this
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is this is the footage. This is the stuff that's
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going to make me you know, that's going to go viral.
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You know mind reader hecks the Pentagon. This is going
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to be amazing. And you might be wondering, well, then
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how come we haven't seen this footage? And that is
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because when I went to the radio station and I
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went to that spot in the archives that that hour,
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the eight o'clock to nine o'clock hour, was missing from
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the radio station's archives. Any idea of no one on
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00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:02.320
staff could explain or figure out wh that specific hour
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did not save.
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Joe at this show. If you're if you screw up
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my show, I'm going to be very upset with you.
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Now. I've told this story many many times, it has
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been I have told the story many times, and again
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I have had I had thousands of people who heard
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it live on the air. In fact, I've told this
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story on stage and I've had people actually mention after
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the show, oh yeah, I heard that broadcast because they've
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broadcast from this from Chicago all the way up to Milwaukee,
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so they have a wide, wide listenership, right, So you know, again,
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thousands of people heard this in the Chicagoland area. So
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again I have thousands of witnesses who can verify the
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validity of this, and I do it in my show
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all the time. In fact, during Lockdown, I did a
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lot of Zoom shows. In fact, I'm going to be
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doing one coming up. So even if people aren't going
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to be in the midwestern Chicagoland area, they can still
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subscribe to my mailing list at joe Diamondlife dot com
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and I have the chance for me to read their
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mind over zoom coming up in the next next few
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weeks because I'll be doing that again because I haven't
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done those in a while and they are a lot
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of fun and it gets a chance for me to
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see more people and meet more people than just you
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know where I'm able to go in person. But so, yeah,
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so I still do it. I can recreate it, I
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can do it. But yeah, but I'm I'm.
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Always always a little nervous telling the story because I'm
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always wondering, like, is this going to be the time
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when I'm finally told, hey, Joey, stop telling this story.
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But I've been telling it for the year. We're in
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twenty twenty four now, so eight years so, and I
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haven't been told to stop telling it yet. So I
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think I think we're okay.
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I've had Jerry Yeller on the show a number of times,
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and some of the stuff that he has talked about
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that he has done for the government, it is unbelievable,
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you know.
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Yeah, yeah, so one he's got he's got the checks
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from finding oil to back it up, right, Yeah, Yeah,
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I actually I was able to interview him for my
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radio show and that's still on on YouTube, and being
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able to talk to him was a huge, huge dream
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come true as well. Yeah, he's definitely a childhood hero
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for me for sure.
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Joe, what is your take on Ouiji boards? Do they
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really work?
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I have kind of I've kind of an unconventional take
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on Wigi boards because I do believe in, for lack
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of a better term, a lot of paranormal phenomena, But
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I don't believe Ouiji boards communicate with ghosts, demons, spirits
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in the lake. I've I actually did a couple of
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college term papers on the Ouiji board. One was actually
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based on the science of it, one was on the
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business of it. It's a fascinating history, by the way,
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there's America's first patent battle was over the Wuiji board actually,
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which is pretty fascinating when you realize, oh my gosh,
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the first patent to ever go to court was for
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the Ouiji board. The other thing that's fascinating is people
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are always worried about the board with the alphabet on it,
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when technically that's not the oracle. The oracle is the
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plan sheet with the hole in it. Originally that had
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a piece of lead in it that would write messages
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for automatic writing and seances and table tipping and such.
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So the board is nothing more than an indicator. It's
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actually the plan sheet that is the oracle. And it
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wasn't until movies like The Exorcists came out that people
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started to have such a negative association with it. Like
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people always knew they were they were spooky and supernatural,
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but none of like the urban legends of you know,
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being possessed by them, really came about until that. We
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actually did some experiments on my friend's YouTube channel, the
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Modern Rogue. If you type my name and Ouiji board
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into Google or YouTube, you'll find this video. We did
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a bunch of experiments, but for me, the biggest experiment
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that that to me concludes that shows that it's the
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person or the people moving it, whether they know it
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or not, is We blindfolded people and then without telling them,
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flip the Ouiji board one hundred and eighty degrees, so
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all the letters were in different places, and the yes
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and no were in different places. So we then asked
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you know, yes or no questions, and the plan ship
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would go up to where the yes used to be
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nice or where the no used to.
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Be, because it's all showed.
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That there was something in the people, not outside of
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the people, but unconsciously in the people's brain.
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Joe, I've got to take a rig. Please stand by explanation.
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Joe Diamond is our guest Joe Diamondlive dot com. And
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you're listening to the exxone live and around the world
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on your hometown radio Classic twelve twenty and streamed around
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the world on Classic twelve twenty dot CA. A If
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you'd like to send me an email, my email address
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is x Zone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA. We'll
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be back do'n go away.
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If you could read my my love, what time? My
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FAM's good too, just like old time, moving.
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Scene and welcome back talking about mind games. My guess
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this hour is Joe Diamond. His website is Joe diamondlive
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dot com. And you're listening to the X Zone on
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Classic twelve twenty and streamed around the world on Classic
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twelve twenty dot CA. Joe, we were talking about Ouiji boards,
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and you know, you know, it seems that you know,
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I couldn't understand the demonic side of it. If these
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were sold into the stores.
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Yeah, yeah, it seems like well and the fact it
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kind of had the Jaws phenomena, you know how you know,
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shark sightings went up when when the Jaws movie came up,
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came out the same kind of thing with like demonic possessions.
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It all, it all like centers around when the movie
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The Exorcist came out and and there's that you know,
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famous scene with the with the Ouiji board at it,
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and yeah, and it's also so. The way it works
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is something known as the idiomotor response. It's the same
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way that we have Pendulum's work and table tipping and
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even some things like contact mind reading work, and the
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thing I try to point out that, you know, I'm
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not discouraged that it's not spirits or ghosts. The fact
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that we're doing this, that our minds are capable of
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doing something like this, to me is just as if
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not more amazing, Like the fact that our minds can
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do this and we don't even know is pretty amazing
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and pretty astounding and just goes to show how even
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when you know the mystery, there's always a deeper mystery
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waiting to be explored.
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In your opinion, Joe, doing everything you do what is
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your greatest interest when it comes to within the parapsychology, Oh.
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Man, I mean with fair psychology, I mean just just
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all of it, everything from the human mind. I've really
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been looking at a lot of different aspects of the
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of the history of its place in both the laboratory
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and in the public eye and on stage, and how
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it needs both to kind of push it forward. It
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needs the stage to get people's interest and keep needs
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the laboratory to keep actually pushing it forward. And I
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feel like in some ways, you know, like, yeah, psychic
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phenomenon and the paranormal has never been more popular with
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thanks to you know, for lack of a better term, the stage,
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thanks to you know, TV shows and media and live
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shows and everything. But I don't feel like it's gotten
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the way it needs to be addressed properly in scientific communities.
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And there are some great scientific studies that are happening
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and that are doing great things with it and and
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actually looking into it. And I'm just I'm really hoping
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that there's there's more of that because like right now, lately,
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actually this last year, my biggest interest has been Mesmerism
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and Frans Anton Mesmer, because he's often credited for discovering
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mental suggestion or hypnosis, but he was so convinced that
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he had found animal magnetism, this invisible fluid that would
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control people, he wasn't willing to hear the information that no,
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this was actually something that people were He wasn't willing
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to hear any other takes on what he had discovered.
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And I'm hoping that the more both of these things progressed,
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the more you know, we're we're all able to you know,
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let go of our preconcer notions and again just be
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willing to embrace the mystery, because I think that's that's
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where you're not going to go in with a preconceived
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notion of and looking for you know, you know, you know,
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evidence to support beliefs rather than the other way around.
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So would you say what you do in part is
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what is known as remote viewing.
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It can, it can. In fact, we can try something
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kind of close to remote viewing too, uh, with you
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and all the all the listeners, if to kind of
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finish up this lack segment. If you want to give
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it a shot, sure.
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Let's give it a shot. We've got eight minutes.
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Okay, okay, oh yeah, that's more than enough time. So
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here's how this will work. So we can't see each
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other and we're too far away to do what would
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be known as kind of traditional you know, telepathy, so
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this would be this will be known more remote viewing
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or remote projection. The way this will work is I'm
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actually going to think of a thought. I will project
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it out to you and all the listeners through the airwaves,
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through the internet. It doesn't matter if it is if
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people are listening to this record it or not. It
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should still work. I've done this many times through recordings
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and it should still work. And I'll project these thoughts
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and we'll see how many how many of your listeners
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can receive our psychic transmission. Now we'll see how you
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do here, right here and right now with the two
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of us. But either way, don't shout your answers out loud,
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don't say your answers out loud just yet. Let's give
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the people listening a chance as well. And kind of
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like we talked about before, one tip is to not
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think about it too much, go with whatever comes to
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you naturally. Intuition is knowing without knowing. Okay, So for
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starters that get comfortable for a moment and take a
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deep breath and then exhale. Perfect. We're going to do
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that again. Take one more deep breath, and this time,
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as you exhale, get in your mind a number from
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one to ten. Lock it in your mind. Don't change it.
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Remember that number. We'll do it again again. I'll keep
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it simple. Take another deep breath, and as you exhale,
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get in your mind a direction on a compass. Again,
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lock it in your mind, don't change it, remember that direction, right,
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all right, This last one is going to be the
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most difficult. This time. I'm going to try to send
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two simple geometric shapes, one inside the other, like a
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square inside of something else. Obviously, don't pick square. I
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just said it. Take a deep breath, exhale, and remember
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those two shapes. Okay, I'm curious to see how you did.
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And again, your listeners. Can your listeners email to let
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you know how they did after they've listened to this.
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All right, all they need to do is just email
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me here at x zone at Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
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That's Xzone xo nee at Classic twelve twenty dot CA.
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Great, because what I was actually doing, I was focusing
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on a memory for my past I was actually thinking
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on my first day of high school. Actually, it's a
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pretty common memory for a lot of people. That's why
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I picked it, so there'd be some overlap with a
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lot of your listeners. And I was thinking about how
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I couldn't the moment where I couldn't find geometry class.
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So I asked someone where it was, and they said
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it was on the north side of the building. So
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if you got north, that would count as a hit.
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Right now, When I got to the classroom, I noticed
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there were seven students, So if you got seven, that
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would count as a hint. And when I sat down,
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I remember the teacher had drawn on the chalkboard a
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circle and a triangle, so if you got one of those,
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that would can be considered a hit as well. So, Rob,
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how did you do? Did you get one or two
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or all of them? How did you do?
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I got to the last one, the circle, the last
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one perfect circle. When you said north, I was west.
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And when you'd said said seven, I was nine.
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Okay, so you were so you were too far off
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on the number. That's fine, but that's but that's the
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thing too. Now. The other thing I point out in
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my live shows. When I do this, the amount of
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people who get uh, you know, one or two is
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obviously the most, but the amount of people who get
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all three are the most. Like open people. Now, I
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often talk about the ones who get none of them, right,
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these are that's okay too. These are the people who
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I asked to think of like simple shapes, thought of
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like a star inside of a dodecahedron. These are typically
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the people who are better at generating thoughts rather than
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being open to the thoughts of other people. And to
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be and to be fair, these are the kinds of
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people we need, uh for every kind of creative project.
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If you got and these are the kinds of people
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who really think about what they're going to think about.
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And if you've got two or all three of these thoughts,
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these are the people who are, of course again the
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most intuitive and the most open and the most able
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to receive this stuff. So I'm curious to see how
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the rest of the listeners did. I'm a again, I'm
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a Joe diamondlive dot com. You can subscribe to my
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mailing list at the bottom of the homepage there and
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let me know how you did as well. And yeah,
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I'm really curious to see how how your listeners do
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with this, because it's it's a lot of fun to
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give it a try, and especially as the this goes
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out and the you know podcast version, it's interesting to
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hear how how it does because sometimes people get more,
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people get it with the after broadcast. Sometimes people get
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it more with the initial broadcast. It's fascinating when when
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this happens.
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Before we go, We've got about two minutes, so quickly
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Tarot cards, M what's your take on them?
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I love Tarot I so real fun thing. So the
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traditional writer weight Smith deck was designed by a woman
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named Pamela Coleman Smith. Her friends called her Pixie. I
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mean I could talk about just her for a whole
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hour next time. Long story short. She was an artist
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moved to many different countries. Her first professional job as
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an artist was she designed the program for bram Stoker's
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Dracula when it was a play in London's West End.
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In fact, bram Stoker even gave her a speaking role
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in the play. He was so charmed byered And it
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was through that place she got connected with William Butler
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Yeats in the Order of the Golden Dawn, and they
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commissioned her to design the Rider Weight Smith tarot deck,
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and she listened to classical music like Beethoven and Bach
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and claim to have synesthesia, so those were the image
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that's where like your senses get all mixed up, where
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you can like feel colors or tase numbers. She could
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see music, so when she listened to classical music, those
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are the images that came to her. So I love
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that style deck because it literally is classical music brought
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to life. And then my favorite fact to finish up
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with her is in the last ten years of her life,
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she came out as a Catholic woman. So I love
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telling people that a mixed race female Catholic artists designed tarot.
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Cards and she always played with a full deck.
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Yep. Absolutely absolutely. There's a couple of great books that
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have come out about her, and a couple of great
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online articles if people want to look her up. She's
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again a fascinating human.
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Joe. I want to thank you ever so much for
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joining us. Congratulations on stars everything you do, and we
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look forward to the next time when you're here with
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us back in the ex own and I will let
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you know how many listeners send me the emails with
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the rest. I will Joe take care sir an x oonation.
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If you'd like contact Joe or check out his website.
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He's got a lot of stuff there www dot Joe
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Diamondlive dot com. Well that's it for tonight, x Oonation.
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I'll be back tomorrow night at ten o'clock. Is once
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again we cross the time space continuum to this place
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that I call the X Zone. It's a place for
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people dear to believe and dear to be heard. It's
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a place where fact is fiction and fiction is reality.
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And we're here with you Monday through Friday from ten
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pm Eastern until midnight on your hometown radio, Classic twelve
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twenty and streamed around the world on Classic twelve twenty
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dot CA. So until tomorrow night, when once again we
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meet here in the X Zone. Take care of each other,
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Love your child, let them know that they means so
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much to you. In that always remember to keep your
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eyes to the sky and your heart to the light.
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Good night, everyone, we are be the fa