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Welcome back, everyone.
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Today we head over to Butch Cassidy and Bolivia. Did
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he really die there? By the beginning of the 20th century,
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the American frontier was disappearing. So was the world that
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allowed men like Butch Cassidy to thrive. Born Robert Leroy
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Parker in Utah in 1866, Cassidy became the charismatic leader
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associated with the Wild Bunch, a loose network of outlaws
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responsible for bank and train robberies across the American West.
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Unlike the image of the reckless gunfighter, Cassidy developed a
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reputation as a planner. He preferred carefully organized robberies, escape routes,
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fresh horses. But law enforcement was becoming harder to outrun.
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Railroads and banks increasingly employed professional detectives. Telegraph networks allowed
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information to travel faster. And then the famous Pinkerton National
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Detective Agency pursued members of the wild bunch.
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Across state lines.
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Cassidy and Harry Longabaugh, better known as the Sundance Kid,
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He eventually left the U.S., accompanied initially by Etta Place.
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They traveled to South America and purchased a ranch in Argentina.
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For a while, it appeared Cassidy might have escaped his past,
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and the robberies began again. Cassidy and Sundance were suspected
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of involvement in several South American crimes before eventually arriving
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in Bolivia.
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In November 1908, two.
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English-speaking foreigners were linked to the robbery of a mining
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company's payroll near San Vicente. Bolivian authorities pursued them. Soldiers
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surrounded a house where the two men were staying. A
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gunfight followed. According to contemporary accounts, shots were exchanged into
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the night. Later, additional gunshots were repeatedly heard from inside
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the building. When authorities entered, they found the two men dead.
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The assumption eventually became legend. Cassidy and the Sundance kid
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had reached the end of the trail. However, the bodies
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were not conclusively identified as Cassidy and Sundance, and there's
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been no modern forensic identification either. The men were reported
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buried locally, and the uncertainty surrounding their identities opened the
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door to another story.
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Cassidy survived.
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Decades, relatives and acquaintances reported stories suggesting Cassidy had secretly
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returned to the U.S. His sister, Lula Parker Bettinson, later
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maintained that her brother survived Bolivia and visited the family
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years later. Other stories place him in Washington, Utah, and Wyoming.
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And hey, he could have been in all those places.
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One intriguing possibility involved a man named William T. Phillips
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who died in Spokane in 1937. Phillips possessed unusually detailed
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information of Cassidy's life, leading some researchers to speculate that.
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He actually might have been Butch Cassidy.
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Later investigations, however, produced evidence that Phillips was probably exactly
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who records said he was. Attempts to resolve the Bolivian
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mystery have been frustrating. Researchers searching a cemetery believed to
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contain the outlaw's remains failed to produce genetic evidence confirming
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Cassidy's identity.
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None of this, of course, proves he survived.
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The simplest explanation remains that Cassidy and Sundance were the
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two fugitives killed in 1908. Their movements, the robberies, and
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the circumstances of the shootout all support that conclusion.
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But certainty is different from probability.
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That uncertainty explains why Butch Cassidy's story.
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Refuses to end.
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More than a century later, we still cannot say with
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absolute certainty whether Butch Cassidy finally failed to get away.
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Welcome back, everyone.
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Today we head over to Butch Cassidy and Bolivia. Did
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00:00:06.139 --> 00:00:09.140
he really die there? By the beginning of the 20th century,
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00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:11.849
the American frontier was disappearing. So was the world that
5
00:00:11.900 --> 00:00:16.510
allowed men like Butch Cassidy to thrive. Born Robert Leroy
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00:00:16.629 --> 00:00:20.750
Parker in Utah in 1866, Cassidy became the charismatic leader
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00:00:20.789 --> 00:00:23.890
associated with the Wild Bunch, a loose network of outlaws
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00:00:23.929 --> 00:00:27.129
responsible for bank and train robberies across the American West.
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00:00:28.190 --> 00:00:30.690
Unlike the image of the reckless gunfighter, Cassidy developed a
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00:00:30.730 --> 00:00:34.670
reputation as a planner. He preferred carefully organized robberies, escape routes,
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00:00:34.729 --> 00:00:38.340
fresh horses. But law enforcement was becoming harder to outrun.
12
00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:43.899
Railroads and banks increasingly employed professional detectives. Telegraph networks allowed
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00:00:43.939 --> 00:00:47.700
information to travel faster. And then the famous Pinkerton National
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00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:50.859
Detective Agency pursued members of the wild bunch.
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Across state lines.
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Cassidy and Harry Longabaugh, better known as the Sundance Kid,
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00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:59.539
He eventually left the U.S., accompanied initially by Etta Place.
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They traveled to South America and purchased a ranch in Argentina.
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For a while, it appeared Cassidy might have escaped his past,
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and the robberies began again. Cassidy and Sundance were suspected
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of involvement in several South American crimes before eventually arriving
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in Bolivia.
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In November 1908, two.
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English-speaking foreigners were linked to the robbery of a mining
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company's payroll near San Vicente. Bolivian authorities pursued them. Soldiers
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surrounded a house where the two men were staying. A
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gunfight followed. According to contemporary accounts, shots were exchanged into
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the night. Later, additional gunshots were repeatedly heard from inside
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the building. When authorities entered, they found the two men dead.
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The assumption eventually became legend. Cassidy and the Sundance kid
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had reached the end of the trail. However, the bodies
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were not conclusively identified as Cassidy and Sundance, and there's
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been no modern forensic identification either. The men were reported
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buried locally, and the uncertainty surrounding their identities opened the
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door to another story.
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Cassidy survived.
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Decades, relatives and acquaintances reported stories suggesting Cassidy had secretly
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returned to the U.S. His sister, Lula Parker Bettinson, later
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00:02:09.750 --> 00:02:13.250
maintained that her brother survived Bolivia and visited the family
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years later. Other stories place him in Washington, Utah, and Wyoming.
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00:02:18.310 --> 00:02:20.090
And hey, he could have been in all those places.
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00:02:20.990 --> 00:02:23.930
One intriguing possibility involved a man named William T. Phillips
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00:02:23.949 --> 00:02:29.099
who died in Spokane in 1937. Phillips possessed unusually detailed
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information of Cassidy's life, leading some researchers to speculate that.
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He actually might have been Butch Cassidy.
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Later investigations, however, produced evidence that Phillips was probably exactly
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who records said he was. Attempts to resolve the Bolivian
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mystery have been frustrating. Researchers searching a cemetery believed to
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contain the outlaw's remains failed to produce genetic evidence confirming
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Cassidy's identity.
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None of this, of course, proves he survived.
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The simplest explanation remains that Cassidy and Sundance were the
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00:02:59.050 --> 00:03:02.610
two fugitives killed in 1908. Their movements, the robberies, and
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00:03:02.629 --> 00:03:05.189
the circumstances of the shootout all support that conclusion.
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But certainty is different from probability.
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That uncertainty explains why Butch Cassidy's story.
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Refuses to end.
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More than a century later, we still cannot say with
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00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:21.620
absolute certainty whether Butch Cassidy finally failed to get away.