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Speaker 1: Parenting, property, politics, plus money, health and the weeks beats. It's all on the Weekend Collective with Tim Beveridge, News talk savvy.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and in no particular order. Our first panelist today. He's Auckland councilor for White Tarkerty and sometimes wishes he could write honest emails in the form of Wayne Brown. And it's Shane Henderson. You know, I just had to mention that, Shane. It was a refreshing It's it's a few weeks old, that news.
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Speaker 3: But you know, anyway, still good though, really good.
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Speaker 2: How are you? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Fantastic and still celebrating that Auckland FC win five nol as well.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it was extraordinary, wasn't it. I hope we follow it up with a win against Melbourne. That would be you know, Melbourne's the one you really want absolutely anyway, Hey and joining joining Shane he is well, I think we call him a man about town. He's a real estate agent and rack on tour. That'd be fair enough.
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Speaker 5: Description for Luke.
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Speaker 2: Delayday, Luke, how are you going? Well, hang on a minute, hang on, hang on, We've just got to hang on. Just got to check that you. Oh no, you need to plagu your mic in properly there. Sorry, let's just lift that, push that all the way in. Let's try that again. I'll get my producer's going to come around and we'll do it's attaching a microphone for dummies. Here we go. Uh is that a I don't think it's Is that working? It's talking to it?
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Speaker 5: I don't know about a man about town?
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Speaker 2: I think that's working. Yeah, it sounds working to be that sounds it's finally working.
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Speaker 5: That's coming through.
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Speaker 2: You're a man about town, more.
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Speaker 5: Of an entrepreneur, bit of a store water in the old store, what area?
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Speaker 2: What makes it sound like you're a member of the Northern Club smelly mothballs. But hey, you've just come out of hospital. Fantast Yes, you had a hernia.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, little hernia there. I've been whined and dying in the in the private sector. Got the menu was fantastic. Actually, it was like a full on menu.
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Speaker 2: Hey, how are you? How are you feeling after the because it's pretty much button whole surgery. It's in the morning and out in the afternoon, isn't it.
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Speaker 5: That's right. You have lots of tramadols on board. So I'm feeling great.
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Speaker 2: So we better well, well, better have the button ready to look because he's still under the influence live radio. Yeah, I hate good to have you guys with us. Now let's get into it, shall we look. I thought it was a nice bit of good news on the crime side of things when the government announced that their press conference to announce that there were forty nine thousand fewer violent crime victims and twenty two percent drop in a youth offending. From what I see as that as well, and I think the drop in offenses in the last two years represents a twenty two percent does decrease in violent crime A nice seven good news story, isn't it, Shane.
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Speaker 3: It's fantastic. I wish the media always covered it as a good news story. I mean, we've had crime trending down for most of our lifetimes, but you wouldn't necessarily know it sometimes with some of the coverage.
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Speaker 2: No, well, actually, I am going to have a crack at One News here because I was flabbergasted that Bennett Collin's coverage of it. We went all in about, oh, the gang numbers are up and National's failing, and it was a promise that had been broken. And they gave an interview to Jenny Anderson and no mention, no mention, the fact that violent crime is down twenty two percent, and I just sort of thought, I don't know, It's almost like he'd done some work on so much work on the gang story and he didn't want, you know it, didn't want the truth to get in the way of a good story. What did you think, Luke?
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Speaker 5: I saw that of that article, and I'm looking at the big pictures, going, yes, crime's down, fantastic. I don't want to know about gang numbers. Why get them the airtime, Why get the gangs the yeartime? That's my big thing. And One News kept on going about on the gangs and gangs and gangs.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't if there's a story there tell it. But the thing is, if you watched that program and you were just a regular one News viewer who gets their news, you thought, well, the government's failing at crime, and that stat of forty nine thousand fewer violent defenses clearly tells the opposite story. And the problem is, and I say this, what I really get irritated about is how much of a disservice it does to other people who work in the media, because you see people on Twitter going, oh, you can't trust the mainstream media when I know a lot of journalists who work their butts off to get the facts and to give a fair representation of what's going on. But I'll be honest when it comes to international years, yeah fine, I'll watched One News. When it comes to sports news, I'll trust them. When it comes to domestic politics, I actually no longer trust them to give a fair representation of things. And that is I think that's a real worry. Well, I think that journalism has gone downhill. Actually I think they're not really journalists anymore. They just you know, well, you see that there are some excellent journalists. You get One News which has this massive audience, and this I don't know what's going on there, but in my opinion, they've got a I think they've got a few ethical issues about what they're covering what they don't cover. That's my honest opinion on it. And I wouldn't have said that a week ago. I might have thought, oh, you know, they lean sometimes it's not ideal, But then when I saw that omit it, I just sort of thought, I can't think give an excuse why you haven't at least mentioned even in one sentence the news. Am I been too harsh? Shane?
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Speaker 3: I don't think.
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Speaker 5: So.
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Speaker 3: It's important to get out the starter because people act toward it, they feel safe or let's safe in their communities because of it, So you've got to get it out there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because there are sort of stories that we had and this is not necessarily so much about the media, but how we'd gloss over good news sometimes. We had doctor Menish Diva in last week, who's a pediatrician, but talking about the social media ills from a scientific point of view about what do we know about the damage it causes, and he said, look, there hasn't been nearly enough. People don't realize how fantastic. The news is about the banning of phones and schools, he said, We've got studies coming out, he said, if the government did nothing else, the impact that we're already seeing on lower decile schools and children and children of very various ethnicities. But it just, oh, there's some good news there, let's move on to you know. And I'm not saying you need to be praising everything that's going on, but it is a human nature thing that we don't spend much time on the good news and we just go for the jugular on the negative.
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Speaker 5: Well, whilst I was lying in that hospital bed, I was actually watching the news and I was taking all the bad news that was there. There was not a lot of good news out there, but there could have been some great news out there. And I think one news like you say it needs to look at themselves and go let's start promoting this country through our news.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it was reported. I think Heather might have said it on her show with Barry that actually that apparently Mark Mitchell had a phone call from a senior executive TVNZ to say to say apologize. But you know, unless it comes from the editorial side of things, it doesn't really mean very much. But yeah, let's move on, shall we? Now other talking about I mean, look, we are attracted to challenging news stories, aren't we. Now christ Church rate players are going to be consulted around funding for rebuilds. So there's about a two hundred and ninety million dollars shortfall. The headline building is the christ Church Cathedral. Then of course this Canterbury Museum, the Canterbury Provincial Chambers and the Arts Center, and so the christ Church City Council is asking rate pays for their views. I love I love jargon. I love the way you can phrase something. We want your views on investing in the restoration as opposed to are you prepared to cough up some more money for these buildings. It's a difficult one, Shane, isn't it. I mean you've probably be a bit relieved you don't have those sorts of questions or are you doing different and well you do all the time with spending.
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Speaker 3: In different context. But yeah, we don't have had We've had fiscal holes in the past, but now we're much better. So but anyway, yeah, it is up to the rate pays and part of the job of that consultation is to give people options. So I'd want to kind of see it and say, look, what about the do nothing approach? What about how can we screw costs down so that we're not paying so much? Because the rate payers are pretty sick of these cost overruns with massive projects.
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Speaker 2: They and the problem is if you don't give the money, then what happens to these buildings? I mean the christ Church Cathedral And look, I know that, Look, there are many people who have divided issues on it, but I just sort of thought they should they They've got a one, They've got some amazing new buildings and infrastructure there. And look, I know that there's a certain emotional attachment to the christ Church Cathedral, but I'm just going to say it should have been bold, and they should have built something magnificent, new and architectecturally splendid, rather than something that looks like it's been borrowed off. You know, something out in the sort of outer districts of Paris on every street corner and use those.
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Speaker 5: Bricks in that architecturally, Yeah, you do something brilliant. It happens, and that's the way it should be. But where was the yearth quake about how many years ago.
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Speaker 2: Now twenty eleven, still going on about it.
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Speaker 5: Let's just rebuild the things, you know, just knock them down and rebuild the things. Get on with that.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look at how christ Church is doing generally because of the success of rebuilding the infrastructure and things. I mean, it is rocking and rolling. That's a hot take loads. I'm not going to you're on your own on that one, mate. Actually, do you think that local government sorry, do you think that's I mean central government? New Zealand taxpayers have put a lot into a lot of things for getting Christich back on its feet. Should they be asked to chip in for these projects? Or was that are all down to the rate payers? And what would you be doing if you were mayor? Film major?
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Speaker 3: If I was the mayor, I would say absolutely, of course you would. But looking as a country, we've got to make that argument that actually it's significant a national scale to get the money.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
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Speaker 3: Ah, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean I've met christ Church listeners. There are three Aucklanders here, so you just have to take that into account, very aware of But I think it's a hard I think it would be a very hard sell to the taxpayer.
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Speaker 5: If I was, it's up to the christ Church people to pay for it.
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Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, I think well they're going to ask them. I mean, if you were a rate payer, I don't know how many rate payers there are, but it would be a bill of a surely be a bill of about fifteen hundred bucks per household, wouldn't it, or maybe even more too. I don't know you'd load it onto it.
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Speaker 3: Possibly you'd load it onto debt, but you still have to service that debt over generation.
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Speaker 2: So okay, give a little page, ah, that would be one spectacular Give a little, wouldn't it?
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Speaker 5: On time?
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Speaker 2: Here's me talking about we need to celebrate more good news. But in New Zealand with its loss and look, you know, I actually must have met. Despite I have opinions about some of the pre flight videos for New Zone, which sometimes I love and sometimes I hate, that's not really the issue here. They've got a big loss. David Seymour wants to sell the company. I'm not sure you get a good price for a company that's losing money, so that to me, it's not as great as suggestion. And they have I think them in another airline they have been unlucky with the problems they've had with their particular planes. But Shane, what's your take on the whole thing?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to put it in context, this loss. So I was looking this up twenty four years since two thousand and one renationalization, nineteen years they've made a profit, So it's a generally profitable company, and I think they've given pretty good reasons for why it wasn't in this case, and things like the engineering problems they're having. You know, I wouldn't use a sledgehammer for this particular nail, which would be selling.
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Speaker 2: I think you've put that very well. Luke, have you got something outrageous to say?
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Speaker 5: I mean, he look, I don't think they should sell a ses at all. Have been kibbled than the Zealand, I mean, gets it pays the crown well most times, we just need to get more aeroplanes up in the year and get the injury sorted. I know they're doing a new flight path to London shortly, just get up there.
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Speaker 2: Actually, I'm going to say, and I've got to declare I don't know him particularly well, but Nicol Ravashanka was a soccer dad along with me when our daughter's played in the same team quite a few years ago, and I really like him. He's a real but I listened to his interviews as well, and I thought he did make a great fist of giving. I felt as a listener, you know sometimes when people talk about businesses and the why they're failing, the way there's the reason, there's a problem, and you sort of go God with all the jargon, I damn got a clue. I got a really good feeling and that he explained what was going very clearly, and I thought, yeah, as you said, Shane was well explained, and I think there's a way through this.
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Speaker 3: I back him in. Absolutely, we should back up Kee we business.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way he had as a dad, I'm not I don't think you'll mind me saying this. His daughter scored her first goal and this is when that you know, when they that you just relieved that they can kick the ball two or three times, and she scored a goal, and his father'sly joyous celebration was the most memorable, and no one begrudged him because he was just so happy. He did slightly invade the pitch, dad, But I like him a lot, and I wish them all the best for it. Hey, look, we're going to take a quick moment. We'll come back and have a chat about how much cash these guys have them in their pockets. It's sounds like I'm about the mug them, isn't it? Twenty two past three News talks 'd be Yes, welcome back to the I was going to call it a different name, the panel with Luke Dello and Shane Henderson, Luca being the man about town, racontour and a real estate agent and Shane being the being the Auckland councilor for Why targety do you? I just like that description raconteur.
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Speaker 5: I'll take it. Make I'll take it.
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Speaker 2: It makes you sound like Richard Harris or alone. Good good on you. Hey, do you guys carry much cash around?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna mug you before you leave the building. But what did you think of that? I was interested by this story about the Reserve Bank who want basically banks to they need to offer cash and they want The Reserve Bank has a proposal for the four main banks for them to set up as many as three thousand more ATMs throughout the country, including having more sort of service branches as well. It does feel that they've gone really lean on the cash side of things, the banks, don't they And I think there is a room for movement. Three am sounds like a lot, Luke, Actually, do you like it?
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Speaker 5: What do you want?
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Speaker 2: Do you want more access to cash, to be able to bank deposit and withdraw?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely my access cash. I mean I love cash. I love going to the deer and give me a twenty dollars not and see his eyes light up. He's got cash, and you know, and then you go to the bag and then at fifty and it goes straight in the hill. It's fantastic. And I just think it's a social thing. Then tapping your card, I think it's really nice.
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Speaker 2: But how often do you actually use cash?
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Speaker 5: I use it quite a bit. I like getting because I was always told to have a little bit of cash in your wallet for all those sort of coffees for your beers.
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Speaker 2: But then you get the coins rattling around, chink a chink and chink and chink, you know.
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Speaker 5: And then once a year I just go to the bank and I've got a coin draw have you it? It ends up to about three hundred and fifty dollars cash so it's more cash that well, okay, that's like a sort of saving scheme it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, shame your cash man.
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Speaker 3: No, this is amazing. I haven't paid for anything cash in years.
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Speaker 2: Really gosh, Actually I can't remember the last time I paid for anything in cash, although I've got fifty bucks in the top draw.
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Speaker 5: Well, you actually saved money when you pay cash, too, you're not all those bank fees and so forth.
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Speaker 2: You know, the interesting exercise would be how much I almost wonder whether there would be a downturn in the economy if suddenly everyone had to spend cash again, because there's something to do with having, you know, your budget of three or four hundred bucks or whatever for the week for shopping and incidentals or what. I don't know. I'm just whether or not you've got a large family or not. But you know, when you're handing over the readies, there's something about it if you I mean, I just go, I got some stuff to make a meal last night, and I thought it would be, you know, twenty five thirty bucks. I was like, that's fifty bucks. And if I had to handle over a fifty dollars note, I would have felt that's my spending done for a little you know, it's the power of cash in moderating your behavior.
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Speaker 3: It's a different psychology.
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Speaker 2: Eh, so you obviously blow that council's salary. You know, within a few months of getting elected. Do you say.
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Speaker 3: It's far too easy with the card made?
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Speaker 5: The cash doesn't decline like your car declines. Cash never declines.
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Speaker 2: No, I guess, not a bit about it. What do you think? What do you think about the banks sort of pushing back on it? I mean do you think that, I mean, do you support the Reserve Bank and how far would you port them? And going all the way with their proposals versus sort of like I mean, I haven't intuitive sort of like, well let's meet your halfway type of thing. What do you reckon? Shame?
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Speaker 3: Our banks are making huge profits, they can exorbit. It's not much.
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Speaker 2: It's only one hundred and four million each apparently, which sounds like a lot of money. But when you consider the A I mean A and Z, you know they do have a massive turnover. But still, you know, two point two billion isn't on two billion? I can't remember it starts with a.
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Speaker 5: Bank service is terrible. What was the last time you end into a bank. It's absolutely terrible. I mean, you've got people looking at you, what do you want? You have three forms of id H. I just don't get the service and banks anymore.
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Speaker 2: The lines are along to a yeah, although you know we've got to refix our mortgage soon. And literally, I mean it's so easy on the app. It goes your mortgages up in a couple of months. Would you like to reserve right now? And you go yes or no and then and it's sort of done with a click. And there's part of me that gets freaked out by that, but the other part.
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Speaker 5: Of me love was it.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's the decision, though, do you fix now? I think those interest rates are only going to go one way? Hey, now onto international news guys. The Hillary Clinton Bill Clinton testifying before the House Oversight Committee, and look, it just feels like there's one giant elephant in the room that all the Republicans are trying to avoid. I mean, his name has been mentioned thirty two thousand times in the Epstein documents. It seems, you know, I was curious to know what Bill Clinton would or wouldn't say. Hillary had very little to say, So you should ask my husband and he's like, you know, anyway, what's your take on the whole process, there's Shane.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, neither of the Clinton's really said anything other than I don't know anything, which which I suppose is fair enough. But it's I really worry about the hypocrisy here because we've got people like Lutnik, the Commerce Secretary dead to rights, They've got a meeting with Epstein several times, and republic doing nothing about it. Yeah, so it's hard to see there's a bit of a double standard going on.
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Speaker 2: Oh, there's absolutely no. There's no credibility to it in my in my view, because they're all hell bent on protecting the presidents. I mean, okay, I was curious to know about whether Bill Clinton it's under oath. It's a big deal. That's why the big question was going to be does Bill take the fifth? And he's like, no, I never you know, I never knew knew him around that time. There's no there's nothing in the documents to suggest otherwise either. But if you were a betting man, Luke, when when the time comes when those documents do actually get released, who's going to come out of it worse? Do you think someone like Clinton or do you think old Trumpy because my money would be a thousand bucks on Trumpy.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll go a million dollars in Trump. This old Epstein things, I'll tee. It's it's standing to bore of me at them. It's getting a bit stale in my mind. It's just too much. Too much is going on. And yes, justice matters, accountability matters, and yes some people are going to get some payouts, but it's just a constant sidle the headlines.
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Speaker 2: Well because they're not because they're not lancing the boil by being honest with it.
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Speaker 5: Just get on with Trump, Darylon, and then it's gone. Then we can start thinking about some good news again. But there's a bit of fatigue about Epstein sort of files.
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Speaker 2: Until well, Trump will find something to distract us. Maybe he'll invade Iran, you know, we'll talk about Greenland again.
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Speaker 5: We's got a few other countries invade, isn't he Uh well, I'm climbing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I guess that's the thing is. You know, do you do you trust that there's anything remotely impartial about this Oversight committee or is it just a big beat up? I mean, is it? James Comer, I keep on getting him muddled up with James Comy, of course, because there's only one. But I heard him just talking about what was going on. I thought, this guy is an absolute clown. Anyway, I don't know what else we can say about it, but that is it'll it'll remain entertaining for a while. Hey, now, I'm curious to know what your thoughts are on this one, Luke. The story that about newly constructed townhouses. Who are they're languishing on the market for so long that they no longer qualify as new builds, so which means that the people are targeted at meat for instance, would be first home buyers. They can't get load deposit loans on them because the new builders defined as something that's had its court of compliance for six months I think has never been lived in. But it's interesting. I've even noticed myself when I drive past the townhouse some of the townhouse developments going. Would I or wouldn't I want to live in one of those? And I don't know, what do you? What is it? The lack of resell value? Is it the fact that what do you what's your take on it? As a real estate agent, you would.
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Speaker 5: Want to you would want to buy a townhouse. But it comes down to developers being a little bit too greedy. I totally agree with that. It's just a little bit too greedy and the market's always right and they're just overpriced. So if you're a developer, you want to sell your products so you can reinvest your capital, right, so you just come to meet the market. They all get offers on their townhouses, but they're not making their big profits out of it, right, So it's just you just want to sell the house, make you get your capital back out and reinvest in the same market. You just hold your townhouses and doing it and selling it a new market, yeah, you're gone and lose money on the wish of hope, right, and it looks old and crusty, and then people start saying, well, what's wrong with that townhouse? Nothing's wrong with the townhouse.
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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is with new builds is that they are no longer that. I mean, they're only a year or two away from being the one that's not so new because there's another new build in town and people are always going to be and at the moment with the messaging of the government wanting to you know, and you've been dealing with the whole zoning thing, haven't you. Yeah, what do you reckon?
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Speaker 3: I live in a townhouse. I absolutely love it. It's a fantastic way to live. But you're right, You're right, you'll build, You'll have your townhouse, and then someone else will build it, quite often in the same neighborhood, and then you've got a new one going in. The Other thing is that people want to live closer to town. So you know, we've I don't know if we've got our planning scetings quite right in places like Auckland, where we're expecting people to live in townhouses really far away, not on rapid transits.
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Speaker 2: So well, this is this is the thing as soon as we start start intensifying around those transport hubs. And I think that, Look, I don't know about you, but it's not that he's my favorite reporter. But I watched John Campbell's Little Trip through the CRL a preview, and when you have a look at what it's going to do when the CRL opens, I think it's going to be massively transformative for this city and I think it'll change. And once it's up and running, I think it's is going to change a certain energy around real estate, around those hubs and development and everything. What do you think what's your take.
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Speaker 3: On CRL is going to change the game in Auckland. We're ready to launch. It's awesome.
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Speaker 2: When is it going to happen? Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: We don't have dates. I get asked this a lot. I get asked this a lot this year. It is all like, it's not very I mean.
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Speaker 2: Is there any chance that they're saying it'll be towards the end of the year and they're just like, we're going to surprise everyone in August or something, you know, what's your sense.
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Speaker 3: I'll probably say more towards the end of the year than the start.
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Speaker 2: The government would love it before the election. I'm sure there must be some pressure there, I think so. Actually, Okay, when it comes to townhouses, you live in one, how long have you lived in yours? For?
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Speaker 3: Oh, we've been in a couple of different townhouses seven years all up.
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Speaker 2: Okay. And because there's townhouses and there's townhouses, there's the one where you sort of feel they've turned it around as quickly and bunned as many as they can on a quarter acre, And there's some really. I mean there's a huge range of choice, and how did you make your choices around?
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Speaker 3: You know, for my one, we're in a neighborhood of townhouses, so it's kind of like a fifties style, like everyone knows their neighbors, brings, boris sugar, kind of the whole thing, right, Yeah, so the community is a huge part of that, and so that was big for us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Actually, I think that's probably one of the things that you know that you get the new developments and then they bed in for a while, but then they start to form a sense of community. And I was out at who are pi over Christmas sort of thing and I hadn't been. I've got relativesy of out there, and it's where they they will do the Christmas lights and the sense of camaraderie and community around there. I thought, Okay, that's a new development that's really got something extra now, so it's the same.
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Speaker 5: I love it out there, not that I'd lived there, but I love it.
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Speaker 2: I thought you were out there for a second the way you were talking about.
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Speaker 5: I just love the how they've just built that little town.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous, fantastic. Hey, look, we need to take a quick break. We'll be back in just a tick.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 2: This is the panel on news Talk said B. We're with Luke Dallo and Shane Henderson. It's twenty three minutes to four. Yes, welcome back to the panel. My panelist today is Shane Henderson Auckland Council for White Tarkerty and Luke Dello. Man about town actually on its own. It doesn't sound so flashy, sounds terrible. It sounds like there's going to be a move on order for you, isn't it anyway? Listen to get onto that one. Hey, I sort of feel I need a tiptoe carefully around this one. But the bafter Tourette's scandal where John Davidson, who was Scottish Turet's syndrome activist and he's a he was a real life inspiration for this the thing called I swear. He was thrust into the spotlight because he had some voluntary, involuntary vocal tics where he which included an outburst of racial slurs against Sinners stars Michael Jordan and Delroy Lindo as they were presenting their award. And I mean there was a whole thing about But the BBC got in trouble for sort of bleeping it out and things like that, and he sort of apologized for it as well. But it's just I don't know, I don't really know what to make of this thing. It's just at least the at least the awards were interesting, and we're talking about the bafts. I couldn't tell you who won the baftis. That's the thing. I couldn't tell you what we on. Shame.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel so bad for the guy. So he's come out and he's apologized profusely and said, look, this is not how I actually feel. This is this is the condition, and you know, and he was forty rows back he found there was a microphone trained on him that he wasn't aware that was going to happen. So there was all kinds of kinds of problems.
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Speaker 2: I feel terrible for him. Yeah, what were they doing putting a microphone out of here exactly? It's almost like.
00:29:19
Speaker 5: They, I mean, you know, setting him up.
00:29:21
Speaker 2: What's your take on it, Louke, I just feel like the willing.
00:29:26
Speaker 5: Everything needs a public apology, everything needs a committee, everyone needs a statement now. So the poor guy's got Tourett's just move on.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he should have had to apologize. No, I don't think he's gonna say I regret that I had one of my texts. I don't know. I just I mean, at least, I just think it's living in that world of virtue signaling where everything has to be and look at life's complex this guy has and you know, I don't know. I don't even know what to say about it, really, But it's.
00:29:53
Speaker 5: Just, I mean, everyone has uncomfortable moments, don't they They do, and he's obviously had one. Normally, I've had a couple, You've had a few, timil we come.
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Speaker 3: Back to that later.
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Speaker 5: But I mean, there is a little bit of room to humor, but not laughing at some one, but recognizing, you know, life is perfectly scripted.
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Speaker 3: Now, I hope it helps people understand the condition more.
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Speaker 2: I think that that's the thing that comes out of it, that we have a discussion about it and a lot of people who have opinions and talk to each other and then realize that, you know, that that's not something that he can control. Now, I must admit I can't understand it, but it doesn't Just because I don't understand it doesn't mean I don't listen to you know, the science on it and go. You know, we've got to give this book a break.
00:30:35
Speaker 5: I'd love to know how it works actually the tech, I mean, was he thinking about it? And then I don't know. But have you seen Ricky Gerve's morality? Nah?
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Speaker 2: Not that one?
00:30:46
Speaker 5: Very good? Yeah, excellent, that actually makes you feel alive. And what we should be doing is just saying a lot more.
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Speaker 2: Actually, you know the funny thing about their wards ceremonies is it goes back to Ricky Gervas. And it's not the first time I said this so on radio, remember his famous ones where he just trolled the whole room, you know, people were all he skewered Hollywood and ever since then, I all I can think of when I see them all getting together and pontificating about the world and virtue signaling this, what I think of is I can't get past Ricky Gervasus summary just come up here and thank your award and thank you God and such and such and such.
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Speaker 5: Off.
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Speaker 2: I just couldn't give two hoots about awards ceremonies. And I think it's Ricky's fault, not my thing either. No, No, you haven't thought about what sort of outfit you'd where if you ever went to one of.
00:31:37
Speaker 3: Those news Funnily enough, I haven't known is Counselor Awards.
00:31:40
Speaker 5: It must be Counselor Awards.
00:31:42
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to give me an award, not quite as those awards anyway. Look, we've rung as much as we can out of that one.
00:31:52
Speaker 3: Look, let's move on.
00:31:53
Speaker 2: Yes, shall we move on? Actually just on that thing. Just jumping a little further ahead, there's look, I'm not totally across this, but there's Paramount sky Dance at quastion of Warner Brothers Discovery, which includes CNN, and look, it's just another big corporate takeover of you know, of organizations. And I guess with CBS canceling the Colbeer Show and the whole kafuffle around them pulling a guest from COLB has showing things like that, there's this nervousness about big corporates owning major media companies that own, you know, things like CNN, and people are a bit nervous about it. Do you have any thoughts on that, Shane?
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Speaker 3: Or It just makes me glad to be an Easylander and to live in an environment where we have more freedom of speech.
00:32:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, more freedom of speech and more wonderful reporting from one news, totally unbiased.
00:32:41
Speaker 5: And there you go, Luke, nothing dead.
00:32:48
Speaker 2: You haven't read that story. You haven't read the story.
00:32:52
Speaker 5: I haven't.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, let's move on. Of course, we are ripping through the topics today. Actually, but this one I don't know. This is one. I had an interesting conversation with a colleague about this. But the first baby to be born via womb transplant. And as I say this, I'm almost nervous about what you're going to see. Say here, Luke, but a baby boy has become the first child in the UK to be born using a womb transplanted from a dead donor. So the woman Grace, the mum who was in her thirty she was born without a viable womb. She's had a transplant and she's got a little boy, Hugo. He's ten weeks old. Is it simply a miracle? Actually, when it comes to miracles, I can't think of anything from a scientific point of view that would be more miraculous, can you, Shane?
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Speaker 3: That's amazing. It's a really cool story and I like to reading that thinking that you know, I've known people that have had troubles with fertility and trying to conceive in things like that. It's cool that there's more hope out there for those kind of families.
00:33:51
Speaker 5: Awesome.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's the headline. I always think the headline is a little unfortunately says, you know, child born via womb from dead donor, and it's like it just feels a little bit frankensteinish. But when you see the is a beautiful little boy in the mom and everything, you sort of think, well, I mean, you know, science can do some medicine can do some amazing things.
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Speaker 5: Luke, Oh, I just think it's absolutely fascinating this. But the thing I have a little bit of a laugh about, you know, like, is there a career van out there, you know with actually been labeled spare womb? Right, Manchester next stop?
00:34:28
Speaker 2: Let's fine something.
00:34:30
Speaker 5: But I mean it's pretty cool, which I don't get, don't don't want to take away from it. But where's that womb gone? Now? Is that gone to someone else? Is it reusable or no?
00:34:39
Speaker 2: No, no, she's had it transplanted. That's in her.
00:34:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's gone now right, No it's not.
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Speaker 2: No, she's got it. No, she she she was had. No, we're gonna have to get you read these stories. No, I'm sure she had a womb transplanted, so her it's her womb now, and by virtue of not having a Bible worm now she could she had a baby. You've got that look of like, oh my god, I want to run. And actually, I mean look even just you with the old days hernia. In the old days, you'd be out of action for six weeks because they'd be opening you up, you know, big wound, whereas you've just got a little cotton ball bud there for the arthroscopic.
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Speaker 5: Surgery film any.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. The arthroscopic surgery is the thing that blows me away with what they can do the hernias, the things where they do with putting in stents here and there, you know, knee surgeries and all sorts of things.
00:35:32
Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 2: Medical science is an absolute wonder. And I think, you know, I'm grateful. I think we're lucky we're brought. I think we're just lucky if we're born in the age of antibiotics and anesthetic totally.
00:35:43
Speaker 3: And I thought we're lucky to be born in the Zeland.
00:35:46
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Well, anyway, look tell you what. We'll come back in just a moment. So Luke's going to do some a bit of homework. He's going to read up on what the next story is about. We'll be back just to This is the panel on news Talk, said B. Yes, news Talk, said B with this is the panel with Shane Henderson, Auckland councilor and looked real estate agent. Will go with this time, Hey, actually to be fair to Luke. Actually, we're just going to be mildly fair to him because there was a question I think around that womb transplant where a Grace Bell, who's as I mentioned, she's given birth, she was born without a viable whom she had a wim translate plant, which obviously came from a dead donor. But there is the question around you know, what does it mean once she's had one baby? Can is that wom viable for a second. And we're actually trying to find out which is where Luke's confusion arose from. You know, it's been transplanted. Is it just a good for one hit or what is she going to be able to get pregnant again?
00:36:41
Speaker 5: I read the article to him.
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Speaker 2: He's well, my producer Tyra is actually doing some more research on this. So if we find out that you're wrong, I'm going to rub it in I just quickly. It's not a very happy story to end with. But the one in three Keiwis that have less than five hundred dollars in savings, I mean, I guess that's five hundred dollars an accessible cash you can I'm sort of not surprised in a way, Shane, although I mean there'll be I imagine that's excluding Key we Save well, one would hope. So because I see Key we Save is up to quite a it's getting up quite a large amount, but you know what cost of living it's up there, and it's a lot of people are going to be a while before they feel any difference when if the economy is turning or when it.
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Speaker 3: Does one hundred percent. If you look at the data, you look behind the data here. The worst region for savings is Auckland and it's the cost of living situation. It's very very expensive to live here. And then second worst is Northland and in those cases low incomes. So it's not surprising, but it is pretty sad, pretty sad way to win in the show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to think of something cheerful. Well, look she still has the womb. There's the good news. She's still got the worm.
00:37:57
Speaker 5: That's great. I'm really happy about that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are totally wrong. Anyway, what do you what do you make about the savings?
00:38:05
Speaker 5: I find interest in the canbry and a tiger. The best saves in the country is that because the mostly Scottish down there and tight is it.
00:38:14
Speaker 2: You are really I love the fact you're really cool. Are you going to run for You're not going to run for politics down in Canterbury?
00:38:19
Speaker 5: No, no, I leave that one alone.
00:38:20
Speaker 2: But actually I think it's because the cost of what have we got in Auckland. Basically the first the cost of housing. If you live here, it's it's more expensive to have a place to live, and I think that would be a major and with Northland, as you say, Shane with the lower desca sort of I like the expression that the expression that I like that you use. You says, you know if you look behind the data, and I just thought it was a wonderful yng and yang because Luke likes to get in front of the data.
00:38:50
Speaker 5: Did you do some research?
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Speaker 2: Did you do excellent? What's coming up on the council. Anything exciting.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean obviously the housing and planning stuff that's taking up most of our time, and huge interest from the public as well, which is all good. Yeah, so we'll see.
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Speaker 2: And the planning is that the discussion around future planning for houses and all that sort of thing. It's a big job. How do you actually get around, get your head around and really understand that stuff, because it's really complex, isn't it.
00:39:19
Speaker 3: It's complex, man, You've got to do your research and work hard.
00:39:21
Speaker 2: I suppose are there certain counselors who really lead the conversation and you sit there and you go, man, they are really onto it? Or are you that guy? Is everyone?
00:39:30
Speaker 5: You know?
00:39:30
Speaker 2: The room goes quie and everyone just turns and looks to Shane. I don't know.
00:39:33
Speaker 3: I mean people do look quiet and turn at me when I talk, but I don't know what that means. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know. Yeah, I suppose I'm one of the people.
00:39:43
Speaker 2: So modest, isn't he. I'm waiting for the day that he snaps and sends one of those texts that we Wayne Brown was famous for. Anyway, Hey, looke, good to see you mate. Thanks to see you.
00:39:53
Speaker 5: I'll get back to write in my book now.
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Speaker 2: And good luck with the good luck with the hernia.
00:39:57
Speaker 5: Thank you.
00:39:58
Speaker 2: When are you back playing golf again?
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Speaker 5: It'd be about three weeks away, I reckon. I'll be back on the course. You're wasting about four or five hours. The nineteenth Magne Magnificent. That's a name for That's a good name for a restaurant, isn't it the nineteenth. I'm out of that game now, Hey, good to see we will be back.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and in no particular order. Our first panelist today. He's Auckland councilor for White Tarkerty and sometimes wishes he could write honest emails in the form of Wayne Brown. And it's Shane Henderson. You know, I just had to mention that, Shane. It was a refreshing It's it's a few weeks old, that news.
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Speaker 3: But you know, anyway, still good though, really good.
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Speaker 2: How are you? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Fantastic and still celebrating that Auckland FC win five nol as well.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it was extraordinary, wasn't it. I hope we follow it up with a win against Melbourne. That would be you know, Melbourne's the one you really want absolutely anyway, Hey and joining joining Shane he is well, I think we call him a man about town. He's a real estate agent and rack on tour. That'd be fair enough.
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Speaker 5: Description for Luke.
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Speaker 2: Delayday, Luke, how are you going? Well, hang on a minute, hang on, hang on, We've just got to hang on. Just got to check that you. Oh no, you need to plagu your mic in properly there. Sorry, let's just lift that, push that all the way in. Let's try that again. I'll get my producer's going to come around and we'll do it's attaching a microphone for dummies. Here we go. Uh is that a I don't think it's Is that working? It's talking to it?
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Speaker 5: I don't know about a man about town?
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Speaker 2: I think that's working. Yeah, it sounds working to be that sounds it's finally working.
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Speaker 5: That's coming through.
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Speaker 2: You're a man about town, more.
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Speaker 5: Of an entrepreneur, bit of a store water in the old store, what area?
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Speaker 2: What makes it sound like you're a member of the Northern Club smelly mothballs. But hey, you've just come out of hospital. Fantast Yes, you had a hernia.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, little hernia there. I've been whined and dying in the in the private sector. Got the menu was fantastic. Actually, it was like a full on menu.
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Speaker 2: Hey, how are you? How are you feeling after the because it's pretty much button whole surgery. It's in the morning and out in the afternoon, isn't it.
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Speaker 5: That's right. You have lots of tramadols on board. So I'm feeling great.
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Speaker 2: So we better well, well, better have the button ready to look because he's still under the influence live radio. Yeah, I hate good to have you guys with us. Now let's get into it, shall we look. I thought it was a nice bit of good news on the crime side of things when the government announced that their press conference to announce that there were forty nine thousand fewer violent crime victims and twenty two percent drop in a youth offending. From what I see as that as well, and I think the drop in offenses in the last two years represents a twenty two percent does decrease in violent crime A nice seven good news story, isn't it, Shane.
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Speaker 3: It's fantastic. I wish the media always covered it as a good news story. I mean, we've had crime trending down for most of our lifetimes, but you wouldn't necessarily know it sometimes with some of the coverage.
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Speaker 2: No, well, actually, I am going to have a crack at One News here because I was flabbergasted that Bennett Collin's coverage of it. We went all in about, oh, the gang numbers are up and National's failing, and it was a promise that had been broken. And they gave an interview to Jenny Anderson and no mention, no mention, the fact that violent crime is down twenty two percent, and I just sort of thought, I don't know, It's almost like he'd done some work on so much work on the gang story and he didn't want, you know it, didn't want the truth to get in the way of a good story. What did you think, Luke?
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Speaker 5: I saw that of that article, and I'm looking at the big pictures, going, yes, crime's down, fantastic. I don't want to know about gang numbers. Why get them the airtime, Why get the gangs the yeartime? That's my big thing. And One News kept on going about on the gangs and gangs and gangs.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't if there's a story there tell it. But the thing is, if you watched that program and you were just a regular one News viewer who gets their news, you thought, well, the government's failing at crime, and that stat of forty nine thousand fewer violent defenses clearly tells the opposite story. And the problem is, and I say this, what I really get irritated about is how much of a disservice it does to other people who work in the media, because you see people on Twitter going, oh, you can't trust the mainstream media when I know a lot of journalists who work their butts off to get the facts and to give a fair representation of what's going on. But I'll be honest when it comes to international years, yeah fine, I'll watched One News. When it comes to sports news, I'll trust them. When it comes to domestic politics, I actually no longer trust them to give a fair representation of things. And that is I think that's a real worry. Well, I think that journalism has gone downhill. Actually I think they're not really journalists anymore. They just you know, well, you see that there are some excellent journalists. You get One News which has this massive audience, and this I don't know what's going on there, but in my opinion, they've got a I think they've got a few ethical issues about what they're covering what they don't cover. That's my honest opinion on it. And I wouldn't have said that a week ago. I might have thought, oh, you know, they lean sometimes it's not ideal, But then when I saw that omit it, I just sort of thought, I can't think give an excuse why you haven't at least mentioned even in one sentence the news. Am I been too harsh? Shane?
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Speaker 3: I don't think.
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Speaker 5: So.
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Speaker 3: It's important to get out the starter because people act toward it, they feel safe or let's safe in their communities because of it, So you've got to get it out there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because there are sort of stories that we had and this is not necessarily so much about the media, but how we'd gloss over good news sometimes. We had doctor Menish Diva in last week, who's a pediatrician, but talking about the social media ills from a scientific point of view about what do we know about the damage it causes, and he said, look, there hasn't been nearly enough. People don't realize how fantastic. The news is about the banning of phones and schools, he said, We've got studies coming out, he said, if the government did nothing else, the impact that we're already seeing on lower decile schools and children and children of very various ethnicities. But it just, oh, there's some good news there, let's move on to you know. And I'm not saying you need to be praising everything that's going on, but it is a human nature thing that we don't spend much time on the good news and we just go for the jugular on the negative.
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Speaker 5: Well, whilst I was lying in that hospital bed, I was actually watching the news and I was taking all the bad news that was there. There was not a lot of good news out there, but there could have been some great news out there. And I think one news like you say it needs to look at themselves and go let's start promoting this country through our news.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it was reported. I think Heather might have said it on her show with Barry that actually that apparently Mark Mitchell had a phone call from a senior executive TVNZ to say to say apologize. But you know, unless it comes from the editorial side of things, it doesn't really mean very much. But yeah, let's move on, shall we? Now other talking about I mean, look, we are attracted to challenging news stories, aren't we. Now christ Church rate players are going to be consulted around funding for rebuilds. So there's about a two hundred and ninety million dollars shortfall. The headline building is the christ Church Cathedral. Then of course this Canterbury Museum, the Canterbury Provincial Chambers and the Arts Center, and so the christ Church City Council is asking rate pays for their views. I love I love jargon. I love the way you can phrase something. We want your views on investing in the restoration as opposed to are you prepared to cough up some more money for these buildings. It's a difficult one, Shane, isn't it. I mean you've probably be a bit relieved you don't have those sorts of questions or are you doing different and well you do all the time with spending.
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Speaker 3: In different context. But yeah, we don't have had We've had fiscal holes in the past, but now we're much better. So but anyway, yeah, it is up to the rate pays and part of the job of that consultation is to give people options. So I'd want to kind of see it and say, look, what about the do nothing approach? What about how can we screw costs down so that we're not paying so much? Because the rate payers are pretty sick of these cost overruns with massive projects.
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Speaker 2: They and the problem is if you don't give the money, then what happens to these buildings? I mean the christ Church Cathedral And look, I know that, Look, there are many people who have divided issues on it, but I just sort of thought they should they They've got a one, They've got some amazing new buildings and infrastructure there. And look, I know that there's a certain emotional attachment to the christ Church Cathedral, but I'm just going to say it should have been bold, and they should have built something magnificent, new and architectecturally splendid, rather than something that looks like it's been borrowed off. You know, something out in the sort of outer districts of Paris on every street corner and use those.
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Speaker 5: Bricks in that architecturally, Yeah, you do something brilliant. It happens, and that's the way it should be. But where was the yearth quake about how many years ago.
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Speaker 2: Now twenty eleven, still going on about it.
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Speaker 5: Let's just rebuild the things, you know, just knock them down and rebuild the things. Get on with that.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look at how christ Church is doing generally because of the success of rebuilding the infrastructure and things. I mean, it is rocking and rolling. That's a hot take loads. I'm not going to you're on your own on that one, mate. Actually, do you think that local government sorry, do you think that's I mean central government? New Zealand taxpayers have put a lot into a lot of things for getting Christich back on its feet. Should they be asked to chip in for these projects? Or was that are all down to the rate payers? And what would you be doing if you were mayor? Film major?
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Speaker 3: If I was the mayor, I would say absolutely, of course you would. But looking as a country, we've got to make that argument that actually it's significant a national scale to get the money.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
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Speaker 3: Ah, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean I've met christ Church listeners. There are three Aucklanders here, so you just have to take that into account, very aware of But I think it's a hard I think it would be a very hard sell to the taxpayer.
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Speaker 5: If I was, it's up to the christ Church people to pay for it.
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Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, I think well they're going to ask them. I mean, if you were a rate payer, I don't know how many rate payers there are, but it would be a bill of a surely be a bill of about fifteen hundred bucks per household, wouldn't it, or maybe even more too. I don't know you'd load it onto it.
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Speaker 3: Possibly you'd load it onto debt, but you still have to service that debt over generation.
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Speaker 2: So okay, give a little page, ah, that would be one spectacular Give a little, wouldn't it?
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Speaker 5: On time?
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Speaker 2: Here's me talking about we need to celebrate more good news. But in New Zealand with its loss and look, you know, I actually must have met. Despite I have opinions about some of the pre flight videos for New Zone, which sometimes I love and sometimes I hate, that's not really the issue here. They've got a big loss. David Seymour wants to sell the company. I'm not sure you get a good price for a company that's losing money, so that to me, it's not as great as suggestion. And they have I think them in another airline they have been unlucky with the problems they've had with their particular planes. But Shane, what's your take on the whole thing?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to put it in context, this loss. So I was looking this up twenty four years since two thousand and one renationalization, nineteen years they've made a profit, So it's a generally profitable company, and I think they've given pretty good reasons for why it wasn't in this case, and things like the engineering problems they're having. You know, I wouldn't use a sledgehammer for this particular nail, which would be selling.
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Speaker 2: I think you've put that very well. Luke, have you got something outrageous to say?
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Speaker 5: I mean, he look, I don't think they should sell a ses at all. Have been kibbled than the Zealand, I mean, gets it pays the crown well most times, we just need to get more aeroplanes up in the year and get the injury sorted. I know they're doing a new flight path to London shortly, just get up there.
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Speaker 2: Actually, I'm going to say, and I've got to declare I don't know him particularly well, but Nicol Ravashanka was a soccer dad along with me when our daughter's played in the same team quite a few years ago, and I really like him. He's a real but I listened to his interviews as well, and I thought he did make a great fist of giving. I felt as a listener, you know sometimes when people talk about businesses and the why they're failing, the way there's the reason, there's a problem, and you sort of go God with all the jargon, I damn got a clue. I got a really good feeling and that he explained what was going very clearly, and I thought, yeah, as you said, Shane was well explained, and I think there's a way through this.
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Speaker 3: I back him in. Absolutely, we should back up Kee we business.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way he had as a dad, I'm not I don't think you'll mind me saying this. His daughter scored her first goal and this is when that you know, when they that you just relieved that they can kick the ball two or three times, and she scored a goal, and his father'sly joyous celebration was the most memorable, and no one begrudged him because he was just so happy. He did slightly invade the pitch, dad, But I like him a lot, and I wish them all the best for it. Hey, look, we're going to take a quick moment. We'll come back and have a chat about how much cash these guys have them in their pockets. It's sounds like I'm about the mug them, isn't it? Twenty two past three News talks 'd be Yes, welcome back to the I was going to call it a different name, the panel with Luke Dello and Shane Henderson, Luca being the man about town, racontour and a real estate agent and Shane being the being the Auckland councilor for Why targety do you? I just like that description raconteur.
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Speaker 5: I'll take it. Make I'll take it.
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Speaker 2: It makes you sound like Richard Harris or alone. Good good on you. Hey, do you guys carry much cash around?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna mug you before you leave the building. But what did you think of that? I was interested by this story about the Reserve Bank who want basically banks to they need to offer cash and they want The Reserve Bank has a proposal for the four main banks for them to set up as many as three thousand more ATMs throughout the country, including having more sort of service branches as well. It does feel that they've gone really lean on the cash side of things, the banks, don't they And I think there is a room for movement. Three am sounds like a lot, Luke, Actually, do you like it?
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Speaker 5: What do you want?
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Speaker 2: Do you want more access to cash, to be able to bank deposit and withdraw?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely my access cash. I mean I love cash. I love going to the deer and give me a twenty dollars not and see his eyes light up. He's got cash, and you know, and then you go to the bag and then at fifty and it goes straight in the hill. It's fantastic. And I just think it's a social thing. Then tapping your card, I think it's really nice.
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Speaker 2: But how often do you actually use cash?
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Speaker 5: I use it quite a bit. I like getting because I was always told to have a little bit of cash in your wallet for all those sort of coffees for your beers.
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Speaker 2: But then you get the coins rattling around, chink a chink and chink and chink, you know.
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Speaker 5: And then once a year I just go to the bank and I've got a coin draw have you it? It ends up to about three hundred and fifty dollars cash so it's more cash that well, okay, that's like a sort of saving scheme it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, shame your cash man.
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Speaker 3: No, this is amazing. I haven't paid for anything cash in years.
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Speaker 2: Really gosh, Actually I can't remember the last time I paid for anything in cash, although I've got fifty bucks in the top draw.
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Speaker 5: Well, you actually saved money when you pay cash, too, you're not all those bank fees and so forth.
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Speaker 2: You know, the interesting exercise would be how much I almost wonder whether there would be a downturn in the economy if suddenly everyone had to spend cash again, because there's something to do with having, you know, your budget of three or four hundred bucks or whatever for the week for shopping and incidentals or what. I don't know. I'm just whether or not you've got a large family or not. But you know, when you're handing over the readies, there's something about it if you I mean, I just go, I got some stuff to make a meal last night, and I thought it would be, you know, twenty five thirty bucks. I was like, that's fifty bucks. And if I had to handle over a fifty dollars note, I would have felt that's my spending done for a little you know, it's the power of cash in moderating your behavior.
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Speaker 3: It's a different psychology.
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Speaker 2: Eh, so you obviously blow that council's salary. You know, within a few months of getting elected. Do you say.
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Speaker 3: It's far too easy with the card made?
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Speaker 5: The cash doesn't decline like your car declines. Cash never declines.
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Speaker 2: No, I guess, not a bit about it. What do you think? What do you think about the banks sort of pushing back on it? I mean do you think that, I mean, do you support the Reserve Bank and how far would you port them? And going all the way with their proposals versus sort of like I mean, I haven't intuitive sort of like, well let's meet your halfway type of thing. What do you reckon? Shame?
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Speaker 3: Our banks are making huge profits, they can exorbit. It's not much.
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Speaker 2: It's only one hundred and four million each apparently, which sounds like a lot of money. But when you consider the A I mean A and Z, you know they do have a massive turnover. But still, you know, two point two billion isn't on two billion? I can't remember it starts with a.
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Speaker 5: Bank service is terrible. What was the last time you end into a bank. It's absolutely terrible. I mean, you've got people looking at you, what do you want? You have three forms of id H. I just don't get the service and banks anymore.
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Speaker 2: The lines are along to a yeah, although you know we've got to refix our mortgage soon. And literally, I mean it's so easy on the app. It goes your mortgages up in a couple of months. Would you like to reserve right now? And you go yes or no and then and it's sort of done with a click. And there's part of me that gets freaked out by that, but the other part.
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Speaker 5: Of me love was it.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's the decision, though, do you fix now? I think those interest rates are only going to go one way? Hey, now onto international news guys. The Hillary Clinton Bill Clinton testifying before the House Oversight Committee, and look, it just feels like there's one giant elephant in the room that all the Republicans are trying to avoid. I mean, his name has been mentioned thirty two thousand times in the Epstein documents. It seems, you know, I was curious to know what Bill Clinton would or wouldn't say. Hillary had very little to say, So you should ask my husband and he's like, you know, anyway, what's your take on the whole process, there's Shane.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, neither of the Clinton's really said anything other than I don't know anything, which which I suppose is fair enough. But it's I really worry about the hypocrisy here because we've got people like Lutnik, the Commerce Secretary dead to rights, They've got a meeting with Epstein several times, and republic doing nothing about it. Yeah, so it's hard to see there's a bit of a double standard going on.
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Speaker 2: Oh, there's absolutely no. There's no credibility to it in my in my view, because they're all hell bent on protecting the presidents. I mean, okay, I was curious to know about whether Bill Clinton it's under oath. It's a big deal. That's why the big question was going to be does Bill take the fifth? And he's like, no, I never you know, I never knew knew him around that time. There's no there's nothing in the documents to suggest otherwise either. But if you were a betting man, Luke, when when the time comes when those documents do actually get released, who's going to come out of it worse? Do you think someone like Clinton or do you think old Trumpy because my money would be a thousand bucks on Trumpy.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll go a million dollars in Trump. This old Epstein things, I'll tee. It's it's standing to bore of me at them. It's getting a bit stale in my mind. It's just too much. Too much is going on. And yes, justice matters, accountability matters, and yes some people are going to get some payouts, but it's just a constant sidle the headlines.
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Speaker 2: Well because they're not because they're not lancing the boil by being honest with it.
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Speaker 5: Just get on with Trump, Darylon, and then it's gone. Then we can start thinking about some good news again. But there's a bit of fatigue about Epstein sort of files.
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Speaker 2: Until well, Trump will find something to distract us. Maybe he'll invade Iran, you know, we'll talk about Greenland again.
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Speaker 5: We's got a few other countries invade, isn't he Uh well, I'm climbing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I guess that's the thing is. You know, do you do you trust that there's anything remotely impartial about this Oversight committee or is it just a big beat up? I mean, is it? James Comer, I keep on getting him muddled up with James Comy, of course, because there's only one. But I heard him just talking about what was going on. I thought, this guy is an absolute clown. Anyway, I don't know what else we can say about it, but that is it'll it'll remain entertaining for a while. Hey, now, I'm curious to know what your thoughts are on this one, Luke. The story that about newly constructed townhouses. Who are they're languishing on the market for so long that they no longer qualify as new builds, so which means that the people are targeted at meat for instance, would be first home buyers. They can't get load deposit loans on them because the new builders defined as something that's had its court of compliance for six months I think has never been lived in. But it's interesting. I've even noticed myself when I drive past the townhouse some of the townhouse developments going. Would I or wouldn't I want to live in one of those? And I don't know, what do you? What is it? The lack of resell value? Is it the fact that what do you what's your take on it? As a real estate agent, you would.
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Speaker 5: Want to you would want to buy a townhouse. But it comes down to developers being a little bit too greedy. I totally agree with that. It's just a little bit too greedy and the market's always right and they're just overpriced. So if you're a developer, you want to sell your products so you can reinvest your capital, right, so you just come to meet the market. They all get offers on their townhouses, but they're not making their big profits out of it, right, So it's just you just want to sell the house, make you get your capital back out and reinvest in the same market. You just hold your townhouses and doing it and selling it a new market, yeah, you're gone and lose money on the wish of hope, right, and it looks old and crusty, and then people start saying, well, what's wrong with that townhouse? Nothing's wrong with the townhouse.
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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is with new builds is that they are no longer that. I mean, they're only a year or two away from being the one that's not so new because there's another new build in town and people are always going to be and at the moment with the messaging of the government wanting to you know, and you've been dealing with the whole zoning thing, haven't you. Yeah, what do you reckon?
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Speaker 3: I live in a townhouse. I absolutely love it. It's a fantastic way to live. But you're right, You're right, you'll build, You'll have your townhouse, and then someone else will build it, quite often in the same neighborhood, and then you've got a new one going in. The Other thing is that people want to live closer to town. So you know, we've I don't know if we've got our planning scetings quite right in places like Auckland, where we're expecting people to live in townhouses really far away, not on rapid transits.
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Speaker 2: So well, this is this is the thing as soon as we start start intensifying around those transport hubs. And I think that, Look, I don't know about you, but it's not that he's my favorite reporter. But I watched John Campbell's Little Trip through the CRL a preview, and when you have a look at what it's going to do when the CRL opens, I think it's going to be massively transformative for this city and I think it'll change. And once it's up and running, I think it's is going to change a certain energy around real estate, around those hubs and development and everything. What do you think what's your take.
00:25:50
Speaker 3: On CRL is going to change the game in Auckland. We're ready to launch. It's awesome.
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Speaker 2: When is it going to happen? Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: We don't have dates. I get asked this a lot. I get asked this a lot this year. It is all like, it's not very I mean.
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Speaker 2: Is there any chance that they're saying it'll be towards the end of the year and they're just like, we're going to surprise everyone in August or something, you know, what's your sense.
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Speaker 3: I'll probably say more towards the end of the year than the start.
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Speaker 2: The government would love it before the election. I'm sure there must be some pressure there, I think so. Actually, Okay, when it comes to townhouses, you live in one, how long have you lived in yours? For?
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Speaker 3: Oh, we've been in a couple of different townhouses seven years all up.
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Speaker 2: Okay. And because there's townhouses and there's townhouses, there's the one where you sort of feel they've turned it around as quickly and bunned as many as they can on a quarter acre, And there's some really. I mean there's a huge range of choice, and how did you make your choices around?
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Speaker 3: You know, for my one, we're in a neighborhood of townhouses, so it's kind of like a fifties style, like everyone knows their neighbors, brings, boris sugar, kind of the whole thing, right, Yeah, so the community is a huge part of that, and so that was big for us.
00:26:56
Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Actually, I think that's probably one of the things that you know that you get the new developments and then they bed in for a while, but then they start to form a sense of community. And I was out at who are pi over Christmas sort of thing and I hadn't been. I've got relativesy of out there, and it's where they they will do the Christmas lights and the sense of camaraderie and community around there. I thought, Okay, that's a new development that's really got something extra now, so it's the same.
00:27:23
Speaker 5: I love it out there, not that I'd lived there, but I love it.
00:27:26
Speaker 2: I thought you were out there for a second the way you were talking about.
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Speaker 5: I just love the how they've just built that little town.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous, fantastic. Hey, look, we need to take a quick break. We'll be back in just a tick.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 2: This is the panel on news Talk said B. We're with Luke Dallo and Shane Henderson. It's twenty three minutes to four. Yes, welcome back to the panel. My panelist today is Shane Henderson Auckland Council for White Tarkerty and Luke Dello. Man about town actually on its own. It doesn't sound so flashy, sounds terrible. It sounds like there's going to be a move on order for you, isn't it anyway? Listen to get onto that one. Hey, I sort of feel I need a tiptoe carefully around this one. But the bafter Tourette's scandal where John Davidson, who was Scottish Turet's syndrome activist and he's a he was a real life inspiration for this the thing called I swear. He was thrust into the spotlight because he had some voluntary, involuntary vocal tics where he which included an outburst of racial slurs against Sinners stars Michael Jordan and Delroy Lindo as they were presenting their award. And I mean there was a whole thing about But the BBC got in trouble for sort of bleeping it out and things like that, and he sort of apologized for it as well. But it's just I don't know, I don't really know what to make of this thing. It's just at least the at least the awards were interesting, and we're talking about the bafts. I couldn't tell you who won the baftis. That's the thing. I couldn't tell you what we on. Shame.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel so bad for the guy. So he's come out and he's apologized profusely and said, look, this is not how I actually feel. This is this is the condition, and you know, and he was forty rows back he found there was a microphone trained on him that he wasn't aware that was going to happen. So there was all kinds of kinds of problems.
00:29:12
Speaker 2: I feel terrible for him. Yeah, what were they doing putting a microphone out of here exactly? It's almost like.
00:29:19
Speaker 5: They, I mean, you know, setting him up.
00:29:21
Speaker 2: What's your take on it, Louke, I just feel like the willing.
00:29:26
Speaker 5: Everything needs a public apology, everything needs a committee, everyone needs a statement now. So the poor guy's got Tourett's just move on.
00:29:34
Speaker 2: I don't think he should have had to apologize. No, I don't think he's gonna say I regret that I had one of my texts. I don't know. I just I mean, at least, I just think it's living in that world of virtue signaling where everything has to be and look at life's complex this guy has and you know, I don't know. I don't even know what to say about it, really, But it's.
00:29:53
Speaker 5: Just, I mean, everyone has uncomfortable moments, don't they They do, and he's obviously had one. Normally, I've had a couple, You've had a few, timil we come.
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Speaker 3: Back to that later.
00:30:05
Speaker 5: But I mean, there is a little bit of room to humor, but not laughing at some one, but recognizing, you know, life is perfectly scripted.
00:30:13
Speaker 3: Now, I hope it helps people understand the condition more.
00:30:16
Speaker 2: I think that that's the thing that comes out of it, that we have a discussion about it and a lot of people who have opinions and talk to each other and then realize that, you know, that that's not something that he can control. Now, I must admit I can't understand it, but it doesn't Just because I don't understand it doesn't mean I don't listen to you know, the science on it and go. You know, we've got to give this book a break.
00:30:35
Speaker 5: I'd love to know how it works actually the tech, I mean, was he thinking about it? And then I don't know. But have you seen Ricky Gerve's morality? Nah?
00:30:45
Speaker 2: Not that one?
00:30:46
Speaker 5: Very good? Yeah, excellent, that actually makes you feel alive. And what we should be doing is just saying a lot more.
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Speaker 2: Actually, you know the funny thing about their wards ceremonies is it goes back to Ricky Gervas. And it's not the first time I said this so on radio, remember his famous ones where he just trolled the whole room, you know, people were all he skewered Hollywood and ever since then, I all I can think of when I see them all getting together and pontificating about the world and virtue signaling this, what I think of is I can't get past Ricky Gervasus summary just come up here and thank your award and thank you God and such and such and such.
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Speaker 5: Off.
00:31:26
Speaker 2: I just couldn't give two hoots about awards ceremonies. And I think it's Ricky's fault, not my thing either. No, No, you haven't thought about what sort of outfit you'd where if you ever went to one of.
00:31:37
Speaker 3: Those news Funnily enough, I haven't known is Counselor Awards.
00:31:40
Speaker 5: It must be Counselor Awards.
00:31:42
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to give me an award, not quite as those awards anyway. Look, we've rung as much as we can out of that one.
00:31:52
Speaker 3: Look, let's move on.
00:31:53
Speaker 2: Yes, shall we move on? Actually just on that thing. Just jumping a little further ahead, there's look, I'm not totally across this, but there's Paramount sky Dance at quastion of Warner Brothers Discovery, which includes CNN, and look, it's just another big corporate takeover of you know, of organizations. And I guess with CBS canceling the Colbeer Show and the whole kafuffle around them pulling a guest from COLB has showing things like that, there's this nervousness about big corporates owning major media companies that own, you know, things like CNN, and people are a bit nervous about it. Do you have any thoughts on that, Shane?
00:32:32
Speaker 3: Or It just makes me glad to be an Easylander and to live in an environment where we have more freedom of speech.
00:32:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, more freedom of speech and more wonderful reporting from one news, totally unbiased.
00:32:41
Speaker 5: And there you go, Luke, nothing dead.
00:32:48
Speaker 2: You haven't read that story. You haven't read the story.
00:32:52
Speaker 5: I haven't.
00:32:54
Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, let's move on. Of course, we are ripping through the topics today. Actually, but this one I don't know. This is one. I had an interesting conversation with a colleague about this. But the first baby to be born via womb transplant. And as I say this, I'm almost nervous about what you're going to see. Say here, Luke, but a baby boy has become the first child in the UK to be born using a womb transplanted from a dead donor. So the woman Grace, the mum who was in her thirty she was born without a viable womb. She's had a transplant and she's got a little boy, Hugo. He's ten weeks old. Is it simply a miracle? Actually, when it comes to miracles, I can't think of anything from a scientific point of view that would be more miraculous, can you, Shane?
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Speaker 3: That's amazing. It's a really cool story and I like to reading that thinking that you know, I've known people that have had troubles with fertility and trying to conceive in things like that. It's cool that there's more hope out there for those kind of families.
00:33:51
Speaker 5: Awesome.
00:33:52
Speaker 2: I mean it's the headline. I always think the headline is a little unfortunately says, you know, child born via womb from dead donor, and it's like it just feels a little bit frankensteinish. But when you see the is a beautiful little boy in the mom and everything, you sort of think, well, I mean, you know, science can do some medicine can do some amazing things.
00:34:12
Speaker 5: Luke, Oh, I just think it's absolutely fascinating this. But the thing I have a little bit of a laugh about, you know, like, is there a career van out there, you know with actually been labeled spare womb? Right, Manchester next stop?
00:34:28
Speaker 2: Let's fine something.
00:34:30
Speaker 5: But I mean it's pretty cool, which I don't get, don't don't want to take away from it. But where's that womb gone? Now? Is that gone to someone else? Is it reusable or no?
00:34:39
Speaker 2: No, no, she's had it transplanted. That's in her.
00:34:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's gone now right, No it's not.
00:34:44
Speaker 2: No, she's got it. No, she she she was had. No, we're gonna have to get you read these stories. No, I'm sure she had a womb transplanted, so her it's her womb now, and by virtue of not having a Bible worm now she could she had a baby. You've got that look of like, oh my god, I want to run. And actually, I mean look even just you with the old days hernia. In the old days, you'd be out of action for six weeks because they'd be opening you up, you know, big wound, whereas you've just got a little cotton ball bud there for the arthroscopic.
00:35:17
Speaker 5: Surgery film any.
00:35:21
Speaker 2: I don't know. The arthroscopic surgery is the thing that blows me away with what they can do the hernias, the things where they do with putting in stents here and there, you know, knee surgeries and all sorts of things.
00:35:32
Speaker 5: It is.
00:35:34
Speaker 2: Medical science is an absolute wonder. And I think, you know, I'm grateful. I think we're lucky we're brought. I think we're just lucky if we're born in the age of antibiotics and anesthetic totally.
00:35:43
Speaker 3: And I thought we're lucky to be born in the Zeland.
00:35:46
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Well, anyway, look tell you what. We'll come back in just a moment. So Luke's going to do some a bit of homework. He's going to read up on what the next story is about. We'll be back just to This is the panel on news Talk, said B. Yes, news Talk, said B with this is the panel with Shane Henderson, Auckland councilor and looked real estate agent. Will go with this time, Hey, actually to be fair to Luke. Actually, we're just going to be mildly fair to him because there was a question I think around that womb transplant where a Grace Bell, who's as I mentioned, she's given birth, she was born without a viable whom she had a wim translate plant, which obviously came from a dead donor. But there is the question around you know, what does it mean once she's had one baby? Can is that wom viable for a second. And we're actually trying to find out which is where Luke's confusion arose from. You know, it's been transplanted. Is it just a good for one hit or what is she going to be able to get pregnant again?
00:36:41
Speaker 5: I read the article to him.
00:36:45
Speaker 2: He's well, my producer Tyra is actually doing some more research on this. So if we find out that you're wrong, I'm going to rub it in I just quickly. It's not a very happy story to end with. But the one in three Keiwis that have less than five hundred dollars in savings, I mean, I guess that's five hundred dollars an accessible cash you can I'm sort of not surprised in a way, Shane, although I mean there'll be I imagine that's excluding Key we Save well, one would hope. So because I see Key we Save is up to quite a it's getting up quite a large amount, but you know what cost of living it's up there, and it's a lot of people are going to be a while before they feel any difference when if the economy is turning or when it.
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Speaker 3: Does one hundred percent. If you look at the data, you look behind the data here. The worst region for savings is Auckland and it's the cost of living situation. It's very very expensive to live here. And then second worst is Northland and in those cases low incomes. So it's not surprising, but it is pretty sad, pretty sad way to win in the show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to think of something cheerful. Well, look she still has the womb. There's the good news. She's still got the worm.
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Speaker 5: That's great. I'm really happy about that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are totally wrong. Anyway, what do you what do you make about the savings?
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Speaker 5: I find interest in the canbry and a tiger. The best saves in the country is that because the mostly Scottish down there and tight is it.
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Speaker 2: You are really I love the fact you're really cool. Are you going to run for You're not going to run for politics down in Canterbury?
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Speaker 5: No, no, I leave that one alone.
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Speaker 2: But actually I think it's because the cost of what have we got in Auckland. Basically the first the cost of housing. If you live here, it's it's more expensive to have a place to live, and I think that would be a major and with Northland, as you say, Shane with the lower desca sort of I like the expression that the expression that I like that you use. You says, you know if you look behind the data, and I just thought it was a wonderful yng and yang because Luke likes to get in front of the data.
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Speaker 5: Did you do some research?
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Speaker 2: Did you do excellent? What's coming up on the council. Anything exciting.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean obviously the housing and planning stuff that's taking up most of our time, and huge interest from the public as well, which is all good. Yeah, so we'll see.
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Speaker 2: And the planning is that the discussion around future planning for houses and all that sort of thing. It's a big job. How do you actually get around, get your head around and really understand that stuff, because it's really complex, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: It's complex, man, You've got to do your research and work hard.
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Speaker 2: I suppose are there certain counselors who really lead the conversation and you sit there and you go, man, they are really onto it? Or are you that guy? Is everyone?
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Speaker 5: You know?
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Speaker 2: The room goes quie and everyone just turns and looks to Shane. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I mean people do look quiet and turn at me when I talk, but I don't know what that means. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know. Yeah, I suppose I'm one of the people.
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Speaker 2: So modest, isn't he. I'm waiting for the day that he snaps and sends one of those texts that we Wayne Brown was famous for. Anyway, Hey, looke, good to see you mate. Thanks to see you.
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Speaker 5: I'll get back to write in my book now.
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Speaker 2: And good luck with the good luck with the hernia.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: When are you back playing golf again?
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Speaker 5: It'd be about three weeks away, I reckon. I'll be back on the course. You're wasting about four or five hours. The nineteenth Magne Magnificent. That's a name for That's a good name for a restaurant, isn't it the nineteenth. I'm out of that game now, Hey, good to see we will be back.
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Speaker 4: For you person over again.
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