Flashback

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It looks like it's not picking it up a lot of the time.
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I hear it.
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Therefore it's picking it up.
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Well.
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You're welcome.
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I hear it strongly.
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Hey listeners, I'm your co-host Audrey, and I'm your co-host Terry.
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Welcome to the Boycast, your home in the Delt Quadrant for all things Star Trek Voyager.
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Today, we are watching season three, episode two, flashback.
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Where Tuvox is has a a virus flash.
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I was having a lot of flashbacks.
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Like watching this episode.
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Tulu?
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Zulu.
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Yeah, thank you.
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And the Excelsior.
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So this was really cool.
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We got the old friend of the Excelsior.
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I wonder if they have this set somewhere.
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Oh, like still to this day?
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No, I wonder where.
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I I just did they rebuild the entire set just for this episode, or did they have the set from the movies somewhere?
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It's a great question.
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Somewhere, right?
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I feel like they probably had it.
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Maybe because that would be so expensive.
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Yeah, for one episode.
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I don't think so.
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It also looks like a movie, movie quality set.
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Like it looked like the set from the movie.
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Yeah, true.
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So, yeah, I bet they just had it somewhere.
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Maybe we'll check out a deep dive at the end of the episode to find out for sure.
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Yeah.
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Really interesting episode.
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I I don't know if I thought it was a good episode, but I really enjoyed it.
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I thought the setting of the episode was really cool.
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Yes, I uh it felt to me typical Star Trek episodic meat and potatoes.
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So I didn't hate it and I didn't love it.
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Remember back in season one where we were being critical of some of the episodes that wrapped up really quickly and randomly fast, like way, way, way absurdly fast in a way that seemed really strange.
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Yeah.
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That is how it describes the ending of this.
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Really?
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It was like build, build, build, build, build.
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Oh, it's a virus.
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And yeah, no, that's fair.
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It like really builds.
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It's a virus, a little girl.
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And then it just to like.
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I don't know.
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It's I don't know.
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I was like, wait, that was the end.
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I walked away.
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I walked away to get something from the kitchen when we were discussing the virus, and they're oh, it must be a virus, and maybe it takes the form of this little girl and memory engrams, which was fun by the way, to hear about memory engrams again.
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That was fun.
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That was a callback.
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And as I'm walking away, the credits go to credits.
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I was like, wait, wait, that was it.
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You missed the whole explanation.
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I heard it.
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I just wasn't watching it.
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You didn't even thought I had more time.
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This was one of those episodes that you could miss and it would be fine.
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But it was cool to see Sulu and some of the flashback stuff.
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It also reminded us of how old Tuvac is.
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Fuck yeah.
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I was like, wait, what?
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Shit.
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He's like so old.
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This was what, 104 years ago?
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Well, and it was also fun to see him and Janeway and how much they trust each other and how Janeway was a little bit wistful about the old times and how the captains did whatever the fuck they wanted.
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And she was like, oh, that must have been fun.
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That was I remember I like that scene where she's just like they were a little they were a little loose with their logs and a little fast with the phaser.
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I was like, she's like romanticizing it.
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Yeah, she's giggly about it.
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It's cute.
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And I was like, Janeway, you could have been that captain.
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You could still be that captain.
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You're literally stranded alone, weigh the hell out in the Delta Quadrant, just go full kirk.
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No one's gonna care.
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No one's gonna know.
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There are no rules.
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No rules.
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Doctor every log, break every first contact rule, uh, disregard the prime directive, start blowing shit up, shooting all the make sure all the K's on her dad.
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Um just wear wear two phasers, one on each hip.
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She could be the sheriff of the Delta Quadrant.
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Uh I was just like, why are you why are you just waxing romantic about it?
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Just go do that.
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Do it.
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Just do it.
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Yeah.
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Fair.
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What would Kirk do?
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God.
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Wow.
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This would be so different.
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If Kirk were captain.
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All of the trouble, all the trouble that Tom gets into would probably be Kirk instead.
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First of all, so so true.
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Okay, well, let's get into it.
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So this episode was written by Brannon Braga and directed by David Livingston, both super frequent directors, writers, showrunners on the show.
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Yep.
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When Tuvok begins to suffer from mental breakdowns triggered by a suppressed memory, a mind mouth with Janeway takes him back to his tour of duty with Captain Sulu aboard the USS Excelsior.
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That was crazy too, that a suppressed memory in a Vulcan, at least they implied this, could kill them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wild.
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I don't even know how to do that.
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I don't even know what to say about that.
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I guess it's unusual for a Vulcan to repress a memory.
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They probably really focus on processing those things and not feeling emotions about them.
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Yeah, it was interesting to like their psychology is so much stronger that it becomes much more dangerous for memories and psychological things.
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They it it affects them more physically, I guess.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it was actually pretty scary there for a while.
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Two Hawk's brain was deteriorating, and I'm not actually sure what level he was at when we finished this episode.
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There were several minutes where the doctor was like, he'll be brain dead in 20 minutes.
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Like how much damage did the episode so fast?
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Right.
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We went from like we went from He's five minutes from death to is the memory a little girl to dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
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I was like, wait, what how we're never gonna speak about it again, I'm sure of it.
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No.
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Yeah, that was that was super interesting.
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Did you notice that the lenses and the angles were so different?
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Between his flashbacks and the rest of the show.
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In this this whole episode.
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So No, I sure didn't.
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I did notice it, and then I listened to I listened to Delta Flyers.
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And they were saying that David Livingston really enjoyed these unique camera angles.
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And Robbie McNeil was talking about this because he's a director himself now.
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And he was saying he thought it was really, really interesting that whenever David Livingston would direct, he was the only director that worked on the show that would order custom lenses for a particular episode and have these completely different angles to what was typical.
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And you definitely notice it with the whenever TV gets the flashback and starts to have a seizure, it's like right up in his face and it's convex or fisheye-ish.
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Fish eyed a little bit, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I thought that was interesting.
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I noticed it, and then when he pointed it out, it was really obvious.
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Yeah, I only I only saw that now that you're saying it.
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Only saw it while Tuvok was experiencing those flashbacks.
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But it was interesting that he had a scene where he's stumbling through the halls of the ship.
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It was very similar to Jane Way when she was stumbling through the halls of the ship, where she was like seeing that little girl from the holodeck.
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And I wondered if that was the same director or similar lenses or whatever, because it was very, it had a very similar feel.
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Is it bad that every time I saw the flashback of the little girl, I laughed because it's just the the video is of the little girl and when when she slips out of the hand, it's like that.
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Um if you've ever seen Cliffhanger with Sylvester Sallone at the beginning of that movie, his friend's girlfriend, he's like holding onto her and she slips out of his grasp and is like falls down.
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But this was like you took the video cropped around her body with that view looking down.
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You took that and then just slowly shrunk the image.
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Yes.
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So she's like just like against a green screen clip.
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Yeah.
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It was it was very weird.
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And I it was a memory and not even a real one, apparently.
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But even at the end, when it was switching through all of these people being on the other end of holding this girl's hand, I thought that might be why half of it was a little bit degraded when we were seeing her falling.
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But it yeah, it wasn't impressive.
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Her falling into that that smoke was terrible.
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It was yeah.
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Okay, I need to find something really fast.
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Uh because this is the other thing it reminded me of.
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I'm glad we have more control in here over the audio than I did in Camtasia.
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Because I feel like maybe I can remove some car beeps or something.
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It's fun when I hear the car beats, it's like beep, beep, beep.
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Uh-huh.
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Yeah, because they're not, they don't honk because they're mad at each other.
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They honk because I'm going through an intersection, or hi, you're another of the same car as me, or literally anything.
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They're just talking to each other.
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All right.
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So the episode.
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We've basically covered the whole episode.
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Thank you for joining us today.
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Yeah, right.
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Uh, we'll be watching episode three, uh, season three next week on the voices.
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Bye.
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Um I don't so I don't even know what is worth covering outside of it can go, it's probably gonna be fast, but it starts out with a scene which we've seen before, which is Neelix annoying Tuvok uh and using food and drink that he has concocted as a way to pressure.
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He's basically pressuring Tuvok to like, here, taste this crazy drink I made, taste this crazy food I made.
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And Tuvok's so not into it, and honestly, it's mean to him.
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He's just being realistic.
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And yes, he's a little dry, but he's like, yeah, normally when you do this, it sucks.
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Yeah.
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Uh I thought it was gonna be like the lemonade that Neelix serves him that'll trigger some allergic reaction or something, right?
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Yeah, he he drinks it and he says impressive.
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And I was just waiting him for him to be impressively acidic.
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This is so bad, I can feel a hole burning in my stomach or some shit.
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But he doesn't.
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He just says, Well, he opened it with like Neelix was like, Well, Insign Jane had this and really loved it.
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And he's like, Ensign Jane is a bolerian, and their digestive system can handle sulfuric acid.
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Yeah, she has a coating on her tongue that would let her drink anything.
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Okay, but why just the tongue?
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If it got bad, is the coating everywhere, not just on the tongue?
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Or is the coating everywhere?
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I would think is it fine after you after it would probably be like the tongue is fine, but it burns, it burns your the rest of your body.
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That's fair, that's fair.
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You'd be nitpicking it a little too much.
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So we come across an anomaly.
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It's a class 17 nebula, which if we look up class 17 nebula, it is a type of nebula containing hydrogen and helium, and is considered gaseous, gaseous.
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Gaseous.
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It is and in goat in in this universe anyway, it also contains Oh, I wrote it down.
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Ceruleum.
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Ceruleum Thanks.
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And that's that's Terry winning Who Wants to be a Millionaire.
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Woohoo! Yeah, because I phoned a friend.
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But that's important because ceruleum can be used for powering so much shit.
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Everyone on the ship is like clamoring to get some of this ceruleum.
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Yes.
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And as we find out, it's also quite similar in composition to a class 11 Azure Nebula, which we all know that those types of nebulas are very similar.
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Yeah.
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It's the nebula they come across in the flashback.
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Yeah, the the moment that Tuvok looks at this nebula, he starts to have some kind of reaction.
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And it's like a seizure, essentially.
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Like a standing seizure.
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Right.
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His fingers go like rigid and start twitching, and he's like obviously very uncomfortable.
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And Janeway notices and asks if he's he's okay.
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And he's like, I'm not sure.
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I'm experiencing dizziness and disorientation.
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So he heads to Sick Bay.
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He well, and when he's walking to Sick Bay, that's when he has the first vision that is repeated like an unnecessary amount of times throughout the episode.
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Just of this him as a boy holding this girl's hand off a cliff, and she slips out of his hand and falls to her death.
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Um and she looks human and she's calling his name, like pre please save me.
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Yeah, it looks like a scene from Little House on the Prairie where, you know, like she's wearing a little brown canvas dress basically.
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And you know, a little house on the prairie where they're all dangling off of cliffs.
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Have you not seen that show?
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I've seen three episodes, and I'm actually wouldn't be surprised if that does happen.
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Man, some crazy stuff happens in that show.
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I watched last time I watched it, I was a kid, but people get crushed by wagons and horses and fall off cliffs.
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Is that the show where the father figure was a doctor, or have I just watched a completely other similar show?
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Uh, the town doctor was a friend.
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The father figure was worked at a lumber mill.
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Yeah, okay.
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Well, I can't remember any of that, so I cannot confirm, nor did I got it.
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So the doctor puts a neurocortical monitor on his brain to monitor him.
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He says it could be, he actually says it could be a repressed memory, which I thought was interesting that that was one of the first things he thought it might be.
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And he lists a couple of things.
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He says it could be a hallucination, telepathic communication.
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But yes, repressed memory is in there.
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And he says basically, if you were human, Tuvok, I would say that you've had a panic attack, which Tuvok pushes back against because he is indeed not a human.
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Well, besides the things that the doctor lists that might be wrong, Janeway also is like, it could also be the nebula, because this happened as soon as we came into contact with the nebula.
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So we'll look at that also.
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Yep.
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And almost immediately, Tuval hit with this repressed memory once again.
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So they decide to do a mind meld with Captain Janeway, as typically this would be done with a close family member.
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And since she's the closest person to him, not physically, just close close friends.
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Um emotionally.
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I mean, when they're having this conversation, she is the closest to him, literally.
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But yeah, they have to do that.
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This is where the doctor, yeah, yeah.
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They trust each other, but this is where the doctor starts talking about the what this is in Vulcan medicine.
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And I could something like Telekins Schism.
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Schism.
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There we go.
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That spelled weird.
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Sorry, can you say that one more time?
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Telekins schism.
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I'm fairly certain on that.
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But this is what's medically recommended is that they do a mind meld with someone in the family, and the two of them together try to bring the repressed memory into the conscious mind.
00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:49.200
Because if they don't do this and the person keeps fighting the conscious memory, it causes literal brain damage.
00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:50.000
Yeah.
00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:53.039
Physical damage to his brain.
00:18:53.359 --> 00:19:04.960
So they do this mind meld and are transported onto the bridge of the USS Excelsior 80 years in the past.
00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:09.599
And which has nothing to do with this flashback we've been seeing with this little girl.
00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:10.799
Nothing to do at all.
00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:14.319
And I was like, what is I was very jarring.
00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:18.160
I was like, this is so cool to see the set.
00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:28.640
It's so I loved how different the sets are for the movies and then the the newer shows.
00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:34.880
TNG and Voyager also have they both have their own feels.
00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:40.480
If anything, Voyager feels like a hybrid between TNG in the movie sets.
00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:41.119
Sure.
00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:49.359
Because it it has more of a it it has the the railings and the step-ups.
00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:51.359
And T and G didn't have that.
00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:53.039
So I thought that was cool.
00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.279
Well, it's really like the first person we see basically is Sulu.
00:19:57.519 --> 00:19:59.680
Yeah, she says Damn's report.
00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.799
Just really cool to just see him all of a sudden when I was not expecting him.
00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.839
Well, and it was such a striking angle.
00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:12.000
It almost looks like I I took a screenshot and almost looks like a portrait.
00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:13.200
That is true.
00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:20.000
Yeah, now that you mention it, all of the scenes with Sulu in them were very they were shot very different, like you were saying.
00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.640
This is that shot of him.
00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:26.079
Wow.
00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:28.000
Isn't that crazy?
00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.240
Like he's a it's like he's a statue.
00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:31.119
Yeah.
00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:37.039
It's like down below looking up at his chin, and it's like backlit with smoke.
00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:40.079
Um it's just really cool.
00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:40.880
Yeah.
00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:47.440
So that was like, oh my god, what we haven't seen Sulu in anything since the movies.
00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.599
He wasn't in TNG, I don't think.
00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:56.079
And so they're basically they've been attacked by Klingons or something, right?
00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.480
And Tuvok is a young science officer.
00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.039
Is he a a lieutenant?
00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:04.720
He's what or an ensign.
00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:05.519
He's an ensign.
00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:07.680
I think he's below ensign.
00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:12.720
I don't know what that is, but no, he no, he's not below ensign.
00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:13.599
I don't think he is.
00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:20.079
I just feel like they had a conversation with some other lady who was an ensign, and I don't know.
00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:21.279
Uh yes.
00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:24.319
So sorry, I'm finding her name.
00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:28.400
That was Nurse Chapel from the original series.
00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:31.599
Um I did not recognize her.
00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:32.880
I feel bad.
00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:34.559
I thought she was.
00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:36.720
This might just sound bad.
00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:43.039
Her acting was pretty bad, so I assumed there was another reason for her to be in the episode.
00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:47.440
I definitely assumed that she was a cameo, but I couldn't place her.
00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:50.000
Her acting was incredibly stiff.
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So I was like, hmm, this is odd.
00:21:53.119 --> 00:22:06.960
I they're like putting a lot of emphasis on this actress that isn't good at acting, and she's Like she's also older and I was just like, I'm really curious what the what the cameo is.
00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.000
And and it was cool.
00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:11.680
She let's see.
00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:25.839
Yeah, we have a scene with the two of them because Chuvak is making tea to bring to Sulu and she's like basically accuses him of sucking up to Sulu, and he's just like, that was never my intention.
00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:26.880
I would never.
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And she's like, sure.
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:32.480
Whatever you say.
00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:37.839
But then Jane Wei is like, you never brought me tea to VA.
00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:39.680
I thought that was pretty funny.
00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:44.799
She was keeping it lighthearted even though they're in the middle of some crazy shit.
00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:46.240
Oh, was I wrong?
00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:51.680
Oh I thought it because they talked about it in um Delta Flyers?
00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:53.200
Delta Flyers.
00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:56.240
But I don't know if it was.
00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:57.599
Now I'm confused.
00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:59.759
Maybe she was another character.
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:00.720
I don't know.
00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:04.000
Well, she doesn't do a whole lot in this episode.
00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:05.680
No, she's kind of like there.
00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:07.279
Just there.
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:08.079
Yeah.
00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.640
They tried to get the actress that played Ahura in it, though.
00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:17.680
Well, that would have been very interesting.
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:26.079
Yeah, so they're on the bridge and basically no one can see no one can see Janeway.
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:28.000
So Only too far.
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:42.079
Well, I thought it was strange that there was no urgency or weight to Tuvok is going to die, basically, but it doesn't feel that way.
00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:46.640
Like and Yeah, they're just viewing his memory.
00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:55.119
And what I thought was I I got a little confused because Tuvok would interact like he was the memory.
00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:56.720
He would interact with someone.
00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:56.960
Yeah.
00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:58.319
Like he was the memory.
00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:02.240
Who's gonna remember what they were doing on a day 80 years ago?
00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:11.440
Um it was very interesting how they how they had Tuvok come in and out of the scene that is his memory.
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:12.000
Yeah.
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:17.039
He'd be like, Lieutenant, whatever, get away from your console.
00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:20.240
There's a plasma buildup, and they have this conversation.
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:29.839
They're serving together, but then he'll turn to Janeway and have a completely normal conversation with Janeway about, yeah, and this was happening at this point.
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.920
So I I was like, it was a little how how do you do that?
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:34.960
How does that work?
00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:45.599
Well, yeah, I thought it was cool because I I didn't understand what the direction was there, but I was like, somebody had to somebody had to give direction on how they did this.
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.519
And I'm just, it's cool that they made a decision and did it.
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:54.799
I don't know what they were going for, but they I I did recognize that they had to make that choice.
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:55.920
And it worked.
00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:57.119
It worked for me.
00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:01.440
I didn't, I wasn't I just tried not to think about it too far.
00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:07.119
Apparently it was some of the bridge, the other bridge created Yeah.
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:14.400
Well, and I don't know, they I feel like they could have gone a couple different ways and they chose to do both at once, right?
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:25.599
Yes, they did, but I don't know how else you get Janeway in there because Janeway's role was that she is supposed to be his Pallora, I think he calls it, like his guide.
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:31.839
So she's supposed to keep in focus, get them to this memory, and and bring it back.
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.440
And so maybe he's living his memory.
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:43.119
Like he is the memory, but then when she interacts with him, he's pulled out of it a little bit.
00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:44.720
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:46.720
It did feel like that.
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.359
And so she's like, Why are we here?
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:53.039
This is not the memory that we were trying to get to.
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.000
What does this have to do with the memory?
00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:04.559
And the only thing that he can come up with is two days earlier we we came across a gaseous anomaly, just like we did on Voyager.
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:10.640
But that that ties these two things together, but it doesn't tie the falling girl in.
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:11.519
Yeah.
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:17.519
I'm they never just spoiler, they never explain the fallen girl.
00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:26.480
They just say that the virus was using the memory of the fallen girl as a way to root itself in memory engrams, basically.
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:27.440
Yeah.
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:34.240
They they said that it had to use a memory that was traumatic enough that most people would try to repress it.
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.200
And this is just what that was.
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:40.079
We don't know where it came from or if it's real.
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:41.119
No idea.
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:43.599
Okay, so I was mistaken.
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:48.559
It's not, it's not Nurse Chapel as a character.
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:53.839
Her character name, she did play a character in TNG and the movies.
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:58.079
Her character name was Yeoman Janice Rand.
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:03.039
And she's very, very, very pretty, very striking.
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.359
And she's a very good-looking older woman.
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:24.880
But uh in 1966, that's that's her first role in Star Trek, and then she was um the motion picture, Star Trek III, Search for Spock, Star Trek 4, Voyage Home, and Star Trek 6, The Undiscovered Country.
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.079
I feel like I should have recognized her that.
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:30.799
It's been a while since I watched those movies.
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:36.880
I feel like after seeing this set, though, I really want to watch the movies again.
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:48.000
And they also brought in some other cast extra extras slash recurring extras from the movies.
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.640
The guy that gets his face burned off.
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.119
He's a recurring character from the movies.
00:27:55.359 --> 00:28:00.160
The guy with the Russian accent, Boris, is recurring.
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:06.640
And I was thinking the same thing because the Klingon, like it seemed like they had history.
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.160
Some history.
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:08.799
Yeah.
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.519
But I don't see anything about that actor.
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.039
So maybe the character is the same, but the actor is different.
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:16.960
Uh yeah, that could be.
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:22.000
I don't I don't see anything about the Klingon um what I'm reading right now.
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.400
So interesting.
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:29.119
Yeah, I assume the same thing, just because he he and Sulu seemed to know each other.
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.920
So I was like, oh, this must be another callback.
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:42.799
But what a fun thing to be brought in six or seven years after the last Star Trek original cast movie, and we'll get a walk that set and everything.
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.240
There's some really cool behind the scenes photos for this one.
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:47.519
We'll have to post.
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:48.799
Yeah.
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:50.160
Let's see.
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:53.759
There's I want to find out about the set.
00:28:54.400 --> 00:29:06.480
Janeway mentions at one point that she didn't know that this was a uh that this was a post that Tuvok had held because it wasn't in his service record, which I thought was interesting.
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:13.200
Oh, this is my this is my beyond beyond first Star Trek post.
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:20.480
This is the the post before I left for 50 years and then came back, which is just crazy.
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:21.599
What a crazy thing.
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:22.400
Nuts.
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:28.240
Man, he needs to live like yeah, multiple careers, multiple lives.
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:29.440
Yeah.
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.279
His parents wanted him to go into Starfleet.
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:34.240
So he did.
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:40.319
And he was very headstrong, Vulcan, really did not enjoy being around humans.
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:47.119
And there's that's clear in some of the flashback interactions he has with one of the crew members.
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.400
And yeah, just think he doesn't understand them.
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.279
Yeah, but he's annoyed by them.
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:59.920
He's also annoyed by them in present day, but in a a less empathetic way.
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:06.720
And so he left for 50 years to do colonar and purge himself of emotions.
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:11.920
And then he decided to join Starfleet again.
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:30.160
Yeah, and in that time he married and had his kids, and that's what I guess made him decide to go back to Starfleet was starting to raise children and realize how his parents had felt about him as a child and wanting the best for him, and that he should basically reconsider Starfleet.
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.720
So, okay, I did find another fun deep dive.
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.519
So I did find the Klingon.
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:42.720
The actor's name is Michael and Sarah.
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:52.960
And he previously played King in both the original series third season episode, Day of the Dove.
00:30:53.839 --> 00:31:00.799
And this was back when the Klingons had hair and just really crazy eyebrows and lots of blackface.
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:02.880
So that's a crazy image to see.
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:08.880
And then he also reprises his role in uh the second season of Deep Space Nine.
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:09.839
Yeah.
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.079
So that's interesting.
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:13.279
Mm-hmm.
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:15.039
Okay, the set.
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:28.640
So the they wanted the same bridge configuration as Star Trek 6, but the the production designers literally rebuilt the bridge.
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:30.160
Wow.
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:31.680
Which is crazy.
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:40.720
He said the script was cool, but usually you have three months to build the bridge and half a million dollars.
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:41.680
Yeah.
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:49.359
Um, but they didn't have any of that, and it's also already been seen by millions of people in movies.
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:54.400
So what they did, it took them 12 weeks.
00:31:54.720 --> 00:32:01.920
They used the entire art department construction and production departments for 12 weeks.
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.319
Oh my gosh, all hands on deck.
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:11.839
Um, they did a 300 and a 60 degree set.
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:18.160
So it's not the whole set that's like pieces, it's like half a set.
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:26.720
Um a few walls were blue screened to get the whole look, which I didn't notice, so good job.
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:27.359
No.
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:37.200
And I also feel like a lot of the time we don't have a full 360-degree view of the bridge.
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.039
So I wouldn't have noticed.
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.480
So I think they focus detail on certain parts of it.
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:52.640
I I also I'm impressed because I assumed that they had a set to work with already because the detail was all the detail was awesome.
00:32:52.880 --> 00:33:04.559
All the like 80s style tube television screens that they used as consoles were all like it all looked up to spec to me.
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:05.759
Oh, yeah.
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.599
No, it it looked really good.
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.079
I'm I'm also surprised by that.
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:23.920
They uh we get the story of what happened during this time in Two Vox Life, which is like a third story that's happening in this episode, which is a lot.
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.519
Uh, but they all kind of flow together though, pretty well.
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:28.160
Yeah, I thought.
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:29.440
Yes, yes.
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:34.799
The Klingon Moon Fraxis exploded.
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:47.279
And two days later, there were two Starfleet officers that were accused of murdering a Klingon Chancellor, and we know these two Starfleet officers, that is Kirk and McCoy.
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:55.759
And Sulu was helping on rescuing them because they were taken to the Klingon homeworld to stand trial.
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.160
And so Sulu was like, no, we're gonna go.
00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:59.200
We're gonna go get them.
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.680
And Tuvok disagreed.
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.920
He was like, This is not our mission, this breaks laws.
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:10.639
We could be starting something with the Klingons, and I feel I have to bring it up.
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:14.480
But of course, he's like, he's nobody on this ship.
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:28.559
But Sulu does tell him he's absolutely right, and also that he's absolutely wrong, and he just doesn't have the experience to understand why Sulu needs to try and rescue these guys.
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:33.440
He's young the rescue and oh my god, it was experienced.
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.320
It was so cool to be.
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:46.079
I I wish I found myself just wishing that we weren't because the flashback part with a girl I thought was just so bizarre.
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.400
Like, and I'm like, I wish we could just live this.
00:34:50.559 --> 00:35:00.559
It felt like there was 30 minutes of extra, extra Star Trek the um oh god, what's the movie called?
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:01.760
Something country.
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.000
Oh Star Trek the Undiscovered Country.
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:09.920
So I I felt like it was basically 30 minutes of bonus material for Star Trek The Undiscovered Country.
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:12.559
Yeah, actually that, yeah.
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:18.719
And I'm like, why can't we just live in this and see Sulu just do crazy shit for yeah?
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:24.880
I I like that it ties to Voc into that, but the the rest of it I just didn't care about.
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.679
Yeah, why do we have to keep talking about this girl who fell off a cliff that's like remember?
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.280
Yeah, it was seated in this like really cool world.
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:36.480
And the set was so cool.
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:41.360
And having uh this connection to the old cast was really cool.
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:49.679
I don't know, it was it was so fun, and then the plot tying it together was so bizarre.
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:57.840
Yeah, the excuse they had to come up with in order to show this was just like, hey, we didn't need this.
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:03.519
We would have been on board if Tuvok's just like, oh, I remember, and then this was the whole episode.
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:04.480
That would be fine.
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.199
Seriously, I feel like that that's totally acceptable to fans.
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:10.400
Just yeah.
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:25.840
Tuvok falls asleep, lives 40 minutes of his past life during Star Trek The Undiscovered Country, wakes up at the end to Jane Way coming in, being like, Why did you oversleep your shift or something dumb?
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.239
And then it's like goes to credits.
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:33.360
I I would have been, I would have like, I'm not gonna lie, I know this sounds so dumb.
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:37.199
I would have given that episode five stars.
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:38.719
I'm like, that's perfect.
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.000
It it would have been better than this episode, absolutely.
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.920
At least they would have been realistic about what they were trying to do here.
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:47.280
It yeah.
00:36:47.599 --> 00:37:06.159
But the the so they're trying to figure out what this memory has to do with the little girl, why it's coming up, and apparently part of Sulu's rescue mission was that they were gonna go through this nebula to try and get to the Klingon Homeworld and it would hide them.
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:11.599
So that's one connection, but that still doesn't totally do it.
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:23.519
But once they see the nebula in the flashback, then flashbackception, Tuvok sees the little girl again, and this time Janeway sees it too.
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:31.679
And they This is where you're like, oh, okay, Janeway is there to notice things, yeah, to help.
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:32.960
That's why she's there.
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:39.840
Cause this whole time I'm like, I'm still, I still don't understand why Janeway needed to be here.
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.199
We're okay, we're in a flashback, and that's more interesting than everything else.
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:50.320
And then we're having this girl thing happen, but why is she there?
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.719
She can't even see any of it.
00:37:53.039 --> 00:38:02.320
But then she's able to see it, but she only sees it because he's dying and they're stuck in a mind meld together now.
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:03.679
They can't break free of it.
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.360
So now she's able to see his right.
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.679
He's able to see his flashback.
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.800
And then also everyone else can see her now.
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.920
Yeah, some malfunctions in his brain.
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:21.280
The doctor's freaking out, saying he's getting brain damage.
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.800
He can't get the two of them out of the this mind meld.
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.119
And suddenly Sulu's like, who the hell is this woman on my bridge?
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:42.239
So then we have to have this little side quest where they knock out this other woman and take her clothing so that Jane Wake can blend in to Tuvok's memory.
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.840
And I was just like, this is so unnecessary, guys.
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:57.280
So we have this really fun dialogue with the Klingon, which was definitely a deep cut, as we know, to the original series.
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:04.320
So there's the guy looked totally different in the original series, and I'm not gonna remember a character name from the original series anyway.
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:06.880
So I was like, okay, interesting.
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.039
I'm gonna have to look into this one.
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.480
And I liked the banter though.
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.239
He's just so good to see you.
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:21.039
And he's like, We we would love to escort you out of this sector for your production.
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:22.639
He's like, no, not necessary.
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.400
He's like, I insist.
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.559
He's like, that would actually be, you know what, great.
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.800
Thank you for doing that.
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:32.159
So nice to see you.
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:37.360
It was very like Captain Picard talking to a Klingon.
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:44.239
There was a mutual level of respect there, I felt like, where they're both like, hey, we know what's going on here.
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:54.159
And we're just we're we're posturing for position, and we're just okay, we're on we're on equal ground in this particular situation.
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:55.440
Uh-huh.
00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:04.400
But this is when we know we find out that the nebula that they were in in Two Vox Flashback also contains ceruleum.
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:11.039
Because Catholic comes up with a gaseous in in it's a gaseous cloud.
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:13.920
It's a fart, it's a giant fart.
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.760
It's highly explosive.
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.800
So just like you can light a fart on fire, you can light the nebula on fire.
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:31.119
So as they are getting away from this Klingon ship, as they clear the nebula, he has Tuvok shoot something back into it to light the thing up.
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.119
Sulu does check and make sure, is this gonna destroy their ship or anything?
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:36.880
And they're like, no, it'll disable it.
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:38.320
So he's like, do it.
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:44.559
Uh so it just disables the Klingon ship, and they're able to continue on their way.
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:55.760
I will say it was really fun, not just seeing the Celsier, but the old Klingon ships from the movies.
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:03.760
Because they're so different, they're totally different than the Klingon ships in TNG that we're used to.
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:05.519
So that was fun.
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:06.559
Yeah, that was fun.
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:16.639
And we got to see that that fire in the cloud, which didn't really look like fire, but the the the cloud of gas just lights up in different ways and it shocks the ship.
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:17.360
It's fun.
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.159
Terry, I think it's uh hold on.
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.119
It's a on here, I got it somewhere in my notes way up at the top.
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:29.599
It's a class 11 Azure Nebula.
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:30.960
Correct.
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:38.320
Which is not, it turns out, all that similar to this class 17 nebula that they've seen.
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:44.000
Although it looks to the naked eye similar, and they both have this ceruleum in them.
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.079
So how different are they then?
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:48.400
Wait, why are they different then?
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:57.920
They're I didn't write down what Harry said, man, but something one is a Cas 11, one was a Class 17, and he's just an ensign, though.
00:41:58.639 --> 00:41:59.199
Harry?
00:41:59.280 --> 00:41:59.840
What is it?
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.960
He was assigned, he was assigned by Jane Way to run stas and look at this.
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:06.639
Just kidding, girl.
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.880
He's so smart.
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:11.360
So smart.
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:16.880
So again, Jane Way's like trying to figure out okay, what does this have to do with anything?
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:35.039
And all of these flashbacks lead back to, I believe it's two vox bunk mate that he's talking to, where later on the bridge he tells him to get away from the console, and the console explodes, and it actually ends up killing this guy.
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.599
And then we loop through it again.
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:40.880
Yeah, he and Gene Wait, Jane Wade keep seeing this guy.
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.199
And Janeway's like, what's happening here?
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.679
What's the connection between this and the little girl?
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.679
And obviously that's a very hard connection to make.
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.119
They are not sure.
00:42:53.440 --> 00:43:01.599
But then he, when he's laying on the ground, he like turns over, he's like, Two fuck.
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:02.000
Uh-huh.
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:02.719
Very true.
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:04.320
I was like, okay.
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.400
So it's not really about the little girl, it's like a death scene.
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:14.960
And this virus, turns out, was had had just stumbled upon this memory and happened.
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.719
This was where the virus rooted itself into his brain.
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:31.199
And as they're replaying this, the doctor is seeing a third memory pattern come in, which isn't Two Vox, and it isn't Jane Way's.
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.280
And he's like, Well, that's weird.
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:42.960
Well, the virus goes over to Janeway, and she has the same flashback with the girl.
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:52.079
Um and we see a very eight year old chubby redhead that is Jane Way, apparently.
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.039
That was a funny Jane Way child.
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:56.079
Yeah.
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.119
I would not have expected that.
00:43:59.440 --> 00:43:59.599
So
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.000
Yeah, so now Janeway is the one holding onto the child as as she falls.
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:17.840
And while this is happening, the doctor is like figuring out some way to irradiate their brains to try and get this third memory engram, and he's like, maybe, maybe it's something masquerading as a memory of engram.
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:27.440
The same way that some viruses mimic, I don't remember, fucking blood cells or something so they don't get attacked by the host body.
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:29.199
It was wild.
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:30.639
Crazy.
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:31.760
It was crazy.
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.880
And I it just increases to the end.
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:45.440
Yeah, I I there's a few things that happen on the bridge of the Excelsior.
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:50.400
There's a few things that are discussed, I guess, but basically that's it.
00:44:50.639 --> 00:45:03.760
They they get rid of the virus, and Janeway asks Tubak as they're leaving Sick Bay if the Excelsior managed to rescue Kirk and McCoy, and I'm like, how would you not know this?
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.760
This is like Starfleet history 101.
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:09.760
Because they weren't supposed to.
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.199
Somebody could have just overlooked that.
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:19.280
Oh, do you think it's because she was asking if the logs were changed again?
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:20.960
Yeah, something like that.
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:30.960
He says, yeah, that the ship was forced to abandon the mission, but Kurt and McCoy made their escape.
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:34.079
Obviously, just they're just trying to tie it into the movie.
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:34.880
Right.
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:41.360
And I thought it was interesting that the the idea was that this virus was inhabiting his bunkmate.
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.360
And it jumped to Tuvok when his bunkmate died.
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.199
And Tuvok has not seen a manifestation of this.
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:51.280
For how many years?
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:52.960
Uh 80.
00:45:53.599 --> 00:46:02.800
So he's had this virus for 80 years, and now because he saw a nebula, it starts like doing damage to his brain.
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:11.280
Well, and I think the indication was that this virus has haunted humans for since the stone age.
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:11.920
Yeah.
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:22.559
But but they've finally now in the Delta Quadrant found the virus and found a cure, which I did think that was interesting.
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:40.079
But it just I and I know the way we're talking about it, it doesn't feel like it ended fast, but it went from like build, build, build, build action on the Excelsior to like and cool configured, found the virus, they're walking out of six bay.
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:48.480
Well the action on Excelsior didn't even it never stopped or or deaccelerated.
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.920
It was just we got to the height of this fight.
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:53.360
And then we gone.
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.039
And then we were just out.
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.199
And yeah, it that was very abrupt.
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:16.960
Um I did one final thing I picked up on at the end is that the doctor used terminology that was first introduced in TNG, and for all I know, it's never talked about again.
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:27.920
He talks about memory engrams, obviously, but he says, um sorry, I'm trying to find the exact they're peptides, but I forget what neural?
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:28.320
Yeah.
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.400
Neural peptides.
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:48.719
So remember, it's like one of my favorite episodes of TNG where these little amoeba-looking things, but they're invisible, are feeding off of the crew of the Enterprise, and they're all not able to sleep.
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.119
They're I do not remember that.
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:58.480
Is it the one where they're not able to sleep, or is it the one where Data is basically How did you remember this?
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:08.239
So basically, there's an episode where there's a scene in the episode where Dada is seeing visions of the crew.
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:11.039
He's dreaming and he doesn't know why.
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:21.440
And he has a dream where Riker is Diana is drinking out of Riker's brain with a straw.
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:31.519
There's a straw sticking out of Riker's head, and she's drinking it, and and Beverly is cutting, or or I'm I'm so curious how wrong I am.
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:38.239
I I think Wharf is cutting Deanna is a cake, and he's cutting her cake body.
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:44.719
It's like it's funny, it's her head, and she's obviously under a table, and then it's a cake shape of her uniform.
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.840
And and basically he says it's a peptide cake.
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:54.320
And what was happening is it's a peptide cake?
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:55.679
Yeah, okay, you ready?
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:56.320
I'll find it.
00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:02.639
So instead of me poorly trying to remember for our listeners.
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:08.719
Okay, so uh this episode of TG is called Phantasms.
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:11.440
It is uh season seven, episode six.
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:19.760
The crew helps Data investigate when his dream program suddenly begins generating nightmares, which make him act strangely.
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:25.679
Meanwhile, Captain Picard attempts to avoid attending a boring Starfleet banquet.
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.519
I fucking miss that show.
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:34.159
Same writer, though, is written by Braun and Braga as the episode we're in.
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.360
Actually, this episode of TNG was directed by Patrick Stewart.
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:38.400
How interesting.
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:46.880
Um, in the scene, Data begins to dream.
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:53.039
He opens his eyes, he is in 10 forward, and Wharf is nearby at a table, enjoying a piece of cake.
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.519
Data asks what kind of cake it is.
00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:00.239
He says, a cellular peptide cake with mint frosting.
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.000
Would you like a bite?
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.519
Data declines, and his attention turns to Dr.
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.599
Crusher and Riker at the bar.
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:14.480
Riker has a drinking straw coming out of his head, and Crusher is drinking something out of it.
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.199
There's a telephone ringing in the background.
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:18.880
Aren't you going to answer that?
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:20.079
Riker demands.
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:36.880
There are workmen are also so so basically they're trying to communicate to data, and it's something about the organisms are eating the peptides, and everyone needs it.
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.360
So and I'll find the picture of it.
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:42.480
It's like literally hilarious.
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:44.000
Just I love this.
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:48.559
Oh my god.
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.440
They're not even trying to make it look real.
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:09.280
That was funny.
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:12.400
How do I stop sharing?
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:15.440
Okay.
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:21.360
Well, that is season three, episode two.
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:23.840
That was flashback.
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:25.199
That was a flashback.
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:34.400
We're having flashbacks about TNG episodes and original cast movies instead of really focusing on this episode.
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:45.039
Tuvok is finally rid of a disease that he didn't notice he had for 80 years.
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:47.599
And cut credits.
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:48.800
Exactly.
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:49.440
My god.
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:50.639
Oh, I hear Renji.
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:52.960
I don't know why he's crying.
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:54.239
Where is he?
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.079
He's downstairs.
00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:58.159
So cute.
00:51:58.639 --> 00:51:59.679
Oh, Columbia crazy.
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:00.639
So annoying.
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.880
He just cries after he eats now.
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:03.840
What?
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:04.800
Why?
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:06.480
I don't know.
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:11.840
Oh shit, I just deleted all of my notes for this episode, so I'm glad we're done.
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:14.559
What's that time?
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:16.000
My what?
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:18.320
Oh, this looks fantastic.
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.559
Okay, here's the photo that came up for it.
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:24.320
You ready for this?
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:25.679
Probably not.
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:29.440
It looks like a sequel to The Predator or something.
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:31.199
Oh.
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:31.920
Oh.
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:34.559
Whoa.
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.039
That's Tom and Harry?
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.559
Tom and Harry.
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:42.800
Harry looks like.
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.800
Looks like he's in a Jackie Chan movie.
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:47.679
Yes.
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:51.039
Like playing Jackie Chan.
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:59.599
He's got like a bean-ripped bean neck, and he has like a he's holding a bomb or something, and he's covered in the room.
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:00.719
He's very rugged.
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.320
Yeah, I was like, what is is that a bomb in his hands?
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:06.400
They're both super sweaty.
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:08.639
Paris got a haircut, it looks like.
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:10.159
Finally got a haircut.
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.320
And Okay.
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:16.079
They're in a cave probably.
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:18.559
It looks like maybe a cave episode.
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:24.079
You know they had like an entire one stage was for like cave episodes.
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:24.960
Of course.
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.559
That's why there's so many.
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:31.840
So season three, episode three, The Shoot.
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:42.719
Harry Kim and Tom Paris are found guilty and detained in a prison where a neural implant gradually drives the inmates mad.
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:44.719
Ugh, this sounds familiar.
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:59.519
I feel like there's at least five Stargate SG1 episodes where this happens, but also Tom has already been accused of something and then had a memory engram planted in him that basically tried to drive him crazy.
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:07.039
Well, what happened is they were like, well, we just did an episode where we're thinking about memory engrams.
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:11.920
So obviously it's on their mind when they write the next episode.
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:13.440
Because that's how it works, right?
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.639
They write the episodes in perfect order to how they're released.
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:17.599
Of course.
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:18.480
Yeah.
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:20.800
Write, shoot, air.
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:22.480
In order.
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:24.400
Especially this.
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:26.239
Oh, this looks fun.
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:27.199
Alright.
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:29.360
That's I'm so tired, guys.
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:35.119
I just spent four days, four days and four nights moving, and I'm super tired.
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:36.239
You're done.
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:37.199
I'm done.
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:37.840
I moved.
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.400
And you're like, my god, where did you move, Audrey?
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:41.760
Five minutes down the street.
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:42.960
So it's fun.
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.760
That doesn't still make it easy.
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.480
Still live in Golden, Colorado.
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:52.400
Which is a great place.
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:53.599
It's so great.
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.760
That's currently everything is on fire in the West.
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:10.000
It is June 30th, 2026, and I'm curious how bad fire season is in two months when this episode actually premieres.
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:18.159
I was gonna say a lot, a lot more places are gonna be on fire every every year until the whole world combusts.
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:19.039
Soon.
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:27.119
Well, I figure after all the trees burn down and we just settle into this erodification of the west, we'll just be used to it.
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:30.159
We'll just be used to living in a scrubby desert.
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:31.760
I don't think so.
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:36.480
I spent 28 years in a scrubby desert and I never got used to it.
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:40.000
So, well, yeah, but your desert is not scrubby.
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:43.440
It's like sparse cactusy.
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.599
Is one better than the other?
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.559
It still doesn't get 120 degrees here.
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:49.440
That's something.
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:50.480
But it could.
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.119
No, it's not gonna get hotter.
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It's just gonna get just it's just gonna be less moisture.
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Audrey, it's definitely going to get hotter.
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I hate to bring it too cute.
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It's no, it's it's not gonna get hotter.
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It's gonna stay.
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When it gets hot, it's gonna stay hot for longer.
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And it's gonna rain.
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It doesn't mean it's gonna get hotter.
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We're still we're still further away from the equator than Arizona.
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But if all the trees die and there's no shade, it would it would definitely be hot under the more hot under the trees where the trees are no longer giving shade where it needs to be.
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Alright, well, it's still gonna be a good place to live.
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Yeah, I'm not moving.
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But I'm not very I'm not moving further away.
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But also not moving into the mountains until after.
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Can you imagine living in Evergreen?
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And just waiting for the next fire to destroy your entire town.
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We have friends that live in Evergreen.
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I do too.
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Huh.
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Kitty Ridge.
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And I'm just like, yeah.
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Ooh, that's not great.
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No.
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That's scary.
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Alright.
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Um on that note.
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I so need to go to bed.
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Thanks, guys, for tuning in.
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