Wide Receiver U Isn't Going Anywhere: OSU's 20 Best WRs Ever, Juck's Top 10, and More

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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Time and Change. We'll Shirley Show.
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I'm Tony Gerdaman here with Juck Maletti as we discuss
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a one particular topic, one Ohio state related topic, and
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talk about the past, the present, and future of that topic.
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And Juck, we have made it to wide receivers and
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this has been a little bit of a I don't
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want to say a pain, it's just it's it's hard
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to talk about Ohio states wide receivers. And then of
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course I've asked you to rank your top ten, which
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is where the difficulty has come in for you. But
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this O High State is wide receiver you I think
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we would agree with that. But we could talk This
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show is usually about an hour, and we talked about
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past president future. We could spend two hours talking about
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the past of Ohio states wide receivers, and we'll try
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to limit it to maybe thirty minutes today. But man,
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there's a lot of guys to go through, so many guys.
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And what I was saying earlier as we were talking
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about this, and by the way, a show that we've
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put off couple of times, it's just that I like
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to speak about things with very strong opinions. I like
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to develop strong opinions in this particular topic when we
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talk about this plethora of amazing players that won a
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lot of Ohio State's hearts and minds, like just guys
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you love, and it's like, I don't know how to
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do this. It's basically what it comes down to. There
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are no strong opinions that are formed other than yeah, I.
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Love that guy. I love that guy. So it's tough.
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It's hard to have strong opinions when you find yourself
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disagreeing with yourself because of somebody else getting into the mix. So, yeah,
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I didn't have the I don't want to say I was.
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I was afraid, but I didn't have the courage to
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come up with my own top ten. So I had
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you do yours. But instead I went ahead and I
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put together a formula for figuring out the twenty best
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Ohio state wide receivers of all time. And I'll throw
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it up here on the screen here in a minute.
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But it's basically it's based on receptions and y'alls and
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career one hundred yard games, touchdowns, career two hundred yard games.
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It only applies to like three people. Career three hundred
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yard games only applies to one person, but all Big Tens,
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all Americans, Bolotnikoff Awards, then the number of times there
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in the top five in the Ohio State record book.
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And so with all of that, when you have factored
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all in and then you divide it by the number
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of games they played, Jeremiah Smith comes out number one,
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followed by David Boston at number two, Chris Carter number three,
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Jackson Smith and Jigbit number four, Marvin Harrison Junior number five,
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Garrett Wilson number six, Michael Jenkins number seven, San Antonio
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Holmes number eight, Chris Olave number nine, a Mecca Abuka
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rounding out the top ten. Eleven is Terry Glenn, twelve
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is Joey Galloway, thirteen is Gary Williams, fourteen is Ted
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gen Junior, fifteen is Billy Andersen, is kJ Hill, seventeen
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is Carneal Tait, eighteen is Jeff Graham, nineteen Doug Donnolly,
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and twenty is d Miller. And I added the divide
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by the games that they've played because I felt like
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some guys were maybe not getting a fair shake because
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of the way their careers went. But when you look
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at this top twenty. Is there anything that surprised you
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about it?
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You know, I think the thing that surprised me most
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obviously I love Santonio Holmes. When we look at all
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the animals that have come through, I think san Antonio
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surprised me that he cracked the top ten at number eight,
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a guy who was just he was awesome. But when
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you put it in the context of the way you
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broke this down, I wouldn't have anticipated him being in
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the top ten. So other than that, everything else kind
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of shook out the way I feel that we would
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kind of rank it for the most part, So not
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a ton of surprises. I think that your formula this
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time hit it spot on. Not so much for quarterback,
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but this time it worked out well.
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The math is the math. I don't know what to
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tell you, but yeah, for me, like san Antonio's I
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think one of the most underrated, if not the most
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underrated receiver in Ohio state history. But it's interesting to
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see like Billy Anders and Gary Williams, some old timers
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who played before the eighties getting in there. Doug Donley
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as well. But yeah, like I don't want to put
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together like my Mount Rushmore or my top ten. But
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I do have my two main convictions here is if
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I did Jeremiah Smith is on there, he's number one.
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But if I were to put together like a Mount Rushmore,
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I've got to have Garrett Wilson on there as well,
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and whatever else this happens after that, I can be
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convinced that, you know, anybody else could be on there,
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you know, of the top group. But it's like, when
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I'm thinking of these guys, I don't want to be
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in a situation if I could have Garrett Wilson on
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my team that he's not on my team. So it's
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like those are I don't think Garrett Wilson is the
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second best receiver in Ohio state history. But I am
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also like, there's not a lot of guys I'm going
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to choose ahead of him. So how do you feel
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about Garret Wilson?
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So it's interesting that I guess, you know, if you
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want to go ahead and we can get to your
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top ten if you want. Yeah, yeah, I just want
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to comment on Garrett because I think this is interesting
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as we have kind of had a few guys where
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we've just maybe not everybody would feel that way, but
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agreed upon but I actually have a weird affinity for
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Garrett and just oddly find him to be, you know,
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right up there with the very very best of the
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best ever. I mean, that's not an outland take, but
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I also feel like there's a lot of guys where Okay,
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I could swap him out for him and it wouldn't
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mean much to me. I'm not swapping Garrett out like that.
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Is just just kind of a magician to me in
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a way that other guys weren't. And with that, the
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speed and the explosiveness and kind of just everything about him,
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he's just he's one of those guys that if we're talking,
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you can only have four, Like, he's not gonna be
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off my list.
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Because he can play anywhere. He played all three spots
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at Ohio State. There's one year he was a slot.
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First year I think he played ze, and then his
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third year they're like, you know one of those years,
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hardline was like, yeah, we'll just put him an X.
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And he's six foot, but he plays like he's six
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y four. Incredible hands, incredible timing, can take a hit,
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is quick as heck. Like to me, he's he's the
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perfect six foot receiver. I guess and that's saying something
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when you've also got Jackson Smith and Jigger there and
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as a six foot guy, and Chris o'lave and you
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know all of these other guys. But yeah, I just I,
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like I said, if I've got a team and you're
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asking me, like, pick your three receivers, I could put
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him anywhere, and I would love to have him as
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a slot receiver. I'll take him as a zige Jeremiah's
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my ex I'm good there, but I'll take him all
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day long.
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Yeah, for sure, totally agree. So my top ten, I've
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got a mech at number ten. Who I mean, that's
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that's crazy. I mean, he's the he's the career receptions leader.
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I feel silly saying that, right, But a lot of
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this comes down to because so many of these guys
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when you pull up the all time, this the all time,
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this the all time, this the all time.
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That they cross populate all these.
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Lists and on some of you know, one list, this
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guy's got listed twice and here's this guy over here
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two seasons he did this, So it kind of all
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evens out for the most part, where they're kind of
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in groups as far as statistics go, and a mecha
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also played, you know, and you know that played in
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an offense one year.
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That wasn't that great.
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But for me, he's number ten because I just you know,
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there was I mean, when you're on a team and
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you're not the best wide receiver on the team, it
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does take away a little bit, I guess, and again
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really thin Thinn Margins of how I'm nitpicking here because
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everybody is so good on this list, but he's my ten.
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It's funny because like he could be the third best
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receiver of all time in Ohios date history. Just but yeah,
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he can't be better than Marvin or Jeremiah. You know,
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it's like never the best player on your team, but
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he could be the third best of all time. But
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he is your number ten, my number ten. At number nine,
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I got Jenks again. You talk about Santonio being one
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of the most underrated. I feel like in that era,
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man Jenks was even underrated in his own era. So
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he's definitely on my time at number eight. I've got
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a love and the career touchdown King, mister do it all.
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The story is awesome.
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Even though a lot of people want to consistently say
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he was a three star, he wasn't one time he
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didn't finish a three star. He was a four star
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coming in, so technically he was a four star. Chris
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o'lve was a four star. I can't tell you how
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many times I see that in the comments section when
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I'm talking about rankings.
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Christ Yes, a.
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Former three star, then a four star. So then I've
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got Jack's and obviously that feels again silly putting in
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that low, but uh, you know, you miss out on
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a year of your career. It's just I don't know
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what to do. There At number six, I've got Terry Glenn,
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who was just sensational and I was a little younger
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at that time, and those years when you're a little
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younger tend to stand out a little larger than life.
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So awesome there at number five, and again this feels silly.
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Chris Carter, his stats are so unbelievable for the guy that,
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a guy that played in that era still being top
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five you like all these categories, he's pretty much top
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five and dudes weren't doing that back then. The one
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handed catch stuff. Dudes weren't doing that back then. Just
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a sensational player. At number four, I've got Garrett and
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Garrett will forever be in my number four unless another
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Jeremiah comes along just to do everything, dude, elastic, rubber
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band man, the hops, everything. And I wish, like every
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Buckeye fan, I'm sure that he didn't play for the
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Jets unless you're a Jets fan, and even then maybe
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you wish he played somewhere else. And then for the
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top three, I've got Marve at number three, Boston at
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number two, and JJ at number one.
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Very very I was in school at the same time
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as David Boston, and it was a complete joy to
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watch somebody that big, who was that quick and would
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catch just a simple out and then spin out of
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a tackle and and could go and incredibly fun to watch.
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But I'm surprised that I'm surprised that he's ahead of Marvin,
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because I think the consensus when Marvin when he left,
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he was viewed by most as the best receiver in
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Ohio state history. And then he goes two things happened.
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One he goes to a franchise without a quarterback and
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so he can't live up to the expectations. And then
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two he gets replaced by Jeremiah Smith immediately, and it's
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just like he is the most forgotten guy. And I'm
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not saying you forgot him, You've got him number three
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on your list, but like I think people they were
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it was easy to move on because Jeremiah is this
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is brighter and shinier. But man, it's like Marvin Harrison,
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we should have locked it in stone at that time,
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like he was. I guess you had him top you know,
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you had him top two, but like he was, he
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was the man until Jeremiah Smith came in and he's like, no,
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I am the man, and you go there. But see,
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this is why I didn't want to do a top
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ten because it's like Garrett Wilson, you've got him four.
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I can't argue because of the other guys, I mean
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Jackson Smith and Jigob seven. And you said it exactly right.
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It's just one season. And when I did that formula,
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and I threw the number of games in there to
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to divide by. If you don't do that with that formula,
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he's like number twenty two all time in Ohio state
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history just by having the greatest season in Ohio state history.
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But yeah, looking at this one, if if you could
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have anybody from two to ten, on the so Higher
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State team this year? Who would you take Garrett? I
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think Garrett JJ would be unstoppable. I agree with that
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now a little bit here in a bit I'm going
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to before we move on.
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So I believe that at the time Marvin was the best.
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That's that was my thinking at the time as well.
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Now has my opinion changed? Was I caught up a
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lot of times. I tend to be a prisoner of
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the moment. Having reevaluated that, I think that I didn't
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really go back to David until I sat down and
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really thought about this really hard and compared to eras
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as well, which always tries to it always is something
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that throws you off a little bit, and I just
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ultimately came back to you know, he's if I'm building
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a team, then if I'm building a team now, and
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I just feel like, like David and maybe the pros
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have something to do with it, though he didn't really
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light it on fire in the NFL either, but maybe
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the situation Marvin's had since he's been in the NFL
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might have something to do with it. Like if he'd
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have gone and won the Rookie of the Year, maybe
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that would have solidified it.
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In my mind.
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But again we are talking like floss level thin lines
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between all these guys for me, and a lot of
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it comes down to like who's my favorite, who was more.
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Impactful to me?
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And David Boston was definitely more impactful to me just
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as a younger fan, where you know, things just hit
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harder when you're younger, and that's why to me, it's
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it's it's Boston and Jeremiah is just ahead above everybody
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else for me.
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David Boston for me at the time was the best
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ever after watching him in person and just there's oh, actually,
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I just had a lot of good receivers and I
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you know, I will say, I don't know they was
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definitely surpassed in my opinion until Marv. And I don't
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know that I can go back in time and say, yeah,
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I was thinking Marv over Boston or Boston over Marv,
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because it's just different eras and the number of the
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different ways they throw the ball and how often they
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throw the ball. The speaking of eras, I do. One
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of my other convictions is that of all of these
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names on these twenty these twenty players or however many
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players you want to throw on there, nobody was nobody
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was impacted as much by how how early they were
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born more than Joey Galloway in terms of like, of
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all of these guys, he was born too early more
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than anybody else. Because Joey Galloway in today's game would
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be a deep threat. He could be in a slot,
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he could be a quick screen guy. And he's four
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one nine benches, like four hundred pounds as strong as compact,
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but he's not like running back compact, so he's still
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like he just quick. And he's the guy that I
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always go back to in terms of, like, if you
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could have anybody from a previous era, like if you
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wanted to bring somebody back in time and just reward them,
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you know, like you you were born too early, put
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you in an era where you deserve to play. Because
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he did not have the quarterback play that he deserved
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or the offenses either that he deserved, and you put
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him into I mean, imagine him in twenty eighteen with
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the Ohio State offense. He would had one hundred and
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ten catches and like, you know, eighteen hundred yards and
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it would have been insane.
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Again, another guy that was just so fun to watch
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as a younger dude, and the fact that he's not
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on this top ten list. Just where would Joey Galloway
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rank on anybody else's top ten list? I mean, come on,
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he was awesome, but the speed was just insane. I
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don't think his speed gets brought up enough in the conversations,
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and we talk about fast wide receivers, which always goes
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back to Ted. Joey doesn't get brought up enough.
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Yeah, So I'm gonna give you some trios, some three
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wide receiver sets, okay, and I want you to tell
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me which one you'd rather have, and we'll see which
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one reigns supreme. I've got seven of them here, So
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I've got twenty one total receivers you see, from Chris,
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from Chris Carter, Chris, from Chris Carter to now, okay,
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And this was I listed them one through twenty one,
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and then I had a random number generator picked the
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numbers and create seven sets of three. All right, Yeah,
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I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm gonna pick two against you
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right now or two for you right now, and you
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tell us which one you want and then we'll carry on.
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So the first trio is Chris Carter kJ Hill and
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Michael Thomas against David Boston, Chris o'lave and Terry mcclaucha.
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I mean, I'm putting McLaurin in the slot there, and
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you know, I've got I've got my z, I've got
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my axe, and I'm gonna be a happy boy. Yeah.
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I think I'm gonna take Boston, Olave and McLaurin. I just, uh,
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you know, put in Boston number one overall, as I
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did with uh, you know, a Lave at number I
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think eight. For me, I just think that's that's my tougher.
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That's my tougher lineup.
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And now that lineup will now you'll compete against. Tell
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me if you would prefer these three of Garrett Wilson,
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Terry Glenn and Anthony Gonzales. So we're talking David Boston
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and Chris Olave and Terry McLaurin or Garrett Wilson, Terry
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Glenn and God, I think I now switch.
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I think I now switch and I'm gonna go with
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Terry Glenn, Garrett and Gonzo And Terry obviously was a dude,
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but Garrett, I've talked about enough here. But when you
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add in Gonzo, who to me as that number three guy.
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That's just an incredibly high level, number three first rounder
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stud do it all. So I'm gonna I'm gonna bump
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them up to my top rank right now.
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So you're feeling pretty good about that group. You think
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they're gonna be able to go to the distance over
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these next four rounds. Feeling pretty good and it's gonna
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be very tough to be Yeah, all right, here you go.
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How about this trio Jeremiah Smith, Michael Jenkins and Paris Campbell.
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You know that one kind of hits hits, hits you all.
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You know it HiT's every spot with just an incredible
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high level, uh, with Paris in the slot JJ and
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Jenks on the outside.
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That's that's a pretty wild one.
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And I think that that's probably gonna be my top
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ranked group now.
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I think that'll take the cake. Hits every spot. It's
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like a shot Suma size. So you're you're going with
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Jeremiah Smith, Michael Jenkins and Paris Campbell against now Santonio Holmes,
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Tedkin Junior and Devin Smith.
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A lot of speed, speed, ton of speed. I mean
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that is the fastest. That is just insane speed. However,
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I'm gonna stick with JJ Jenks and Paris, all.
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Right, sticking with Jeremiah Smith, Michael Jenkins and Paris Campbell
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now now against Jackson Smith and Jigba Carnel Tate and
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a Mecca Abuka whoa, and this group was almost close
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to playing.
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Yeah, so JJ Jenks and Paris versus Tate as my ex.
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I'm sticking with JJ Jenks and Paris. I just love
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the combo of the three of them.
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Okay, all right, Well tell me how you feel about
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this combo. This is the last one, so we'll see
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how you feel. Marvin Harrison, Joey Galloway and Curtis Samuel.
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You got your ex, you got your Z, you got
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your h two first rounders, two top ten picks, and
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the second rounder. There, Samuel, Curtis Samuel still doing it too, man,
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this is I might.
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I might take that one in today. No, I'm sticking
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with JJ Jenks in Paris. Yeah, I'm sticking with it.
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You don't want to lose Jeremiah Smith and you love
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Michael Jenkins, all right? Okay, so there you go, the the.
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Greatest forget Paris, my my alma mater st V kid right.
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So and incredible Speed was the previous season single record
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holder for the receptions with what ninety one and twenty
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eighteen before Jackson Smith and Jigba in twenty twenty one.
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So Jeremiah Smith, Michael Jenkins, Paris Campbell not bad. You've
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got You've got third and Jeremiah you got Holy buck Eye,
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and Paris Campbell with the deuces against Michigan. Pretty decent
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all around there for that receiver, Trio boy, those are
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some crazy, crazy names. So there you go our exploration
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of the past. Now I want you to explore the presence, yeah,
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of this season with the Oios State receivers. My first
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question for you and Tom and I just recorded a
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Buckeye Weekly recently today in fact, and it's maybe it's
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been posted, maybe it hasn't been yet, about how deep
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we expect each of the position rooms to go this season,
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like against Texas, for instance, that receiver, how many receivers
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do you expect to play against Texas, which we think
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will be a close game, a big game. You're not
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just gonna throw anybody out there will willy nilly. How
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many receivers do you think playing that game? You know,
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I'm gonna say different than Indiana. Right, I just feel like,
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starting off, it's gonna be really really difficult to bring
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in Brock and Chris for a whole lot of action.
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Will they play a little bit? I don't even know. Man,
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that's tough. I think that.
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You know, obviously you got top six, and Brock and
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Chris are now in that top six.
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With kind Parker, assuming Kyle Parker is healthy when when
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this game is being.
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Played, assuming he's healthy enough. If he's not, then we're
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looking at Philip Bell or another freshman and dre Quayden.
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But you're not just gonna play three. So I'm gonna say, dude,
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this is tough. Right, how about this?
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If they do play both those guys at Texas like
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they're off and running, it's it's cooking.
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I'm gonna go with four. Okay, all right, I'm pretty
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sure I went with six. I think Brock Boyd and
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this could be one snap or three snaps or whatever.
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I just think they're going to get in there, Okay,
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one snap, yeah, all right, Okay, then I'm gonna go
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with five. One of the freshmen, not not the homestater
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or not the Ohioan slash Californian.
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Or both freshmen if he can't go, okay, so you're
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just gonna stick a five.
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They don't need to go any people than that because
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they're gonna be playing so many tight ends as well
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as we know, so as we know that's as you said,
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that's different than against Indiana, where I fully expect there
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to be a regular rotation of six receivers. And when
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I say regular five and six, whether that's Chris, Henry
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Brock Boyd or Brandon Ennis or Kyle Parker, like everybody's
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gonna get at least fifteen snaps, you know, I think
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that's what I expect. Do you think they can get
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to or first, do you think it's going to be six?
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And do you think Philip Bell doesz Jones, who said
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they both have had some good moments here of late.
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Can they get to seven? Do they need to get
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Do they seven too many?
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I think seven is too many. I think six is
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is a lot. I think that I think that my
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prediction here is Kyle Parker out of that group of six,
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is going to become kind of the odd man out
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as we move into to the second half of the season,
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because I really think that Brock and Chris are going
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to be playing very very good football and just bring
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more to the outfit. And when I you know, with
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innocent McEwan has been playing great, I just feel like
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these two freshmen are just so different that come second
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half of the year, Yeah, fifteen, absolutely, I agree with
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that for sure.
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Like they're definitely getting fifteen a piece, and we saw
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them go sixty pretty regularly in twenty eighteen. But I
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want to remind people there are twenty more snaps per
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game back then than there are now, and they were
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moving so moving quickly, so you need to get more
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guys in and out to kind of give them breathers. Now,
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the breather is the huddle basically, so you just not
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nearly as many snaps to play as many guys as
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you'd like. So Tom and I have been doing these
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expectation shows and I've been throwing out some season predictions
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and some statistical predictions. I did not do one for
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brock Boid initially, didn't you right, Well, yes, and so
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I went, we went, we did another one and he did,
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and Tom made his prediction in the spring and then
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doubled it in the summer, and then I finally also
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went and did one This summer. So if I give you,
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I'm gonna give you some brock Boyd stats. These are mine.
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So you tell me too high, too low on this?
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These are the entire season, all sixteen games, all sixteen
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and no twelve catches, one hundred and sixty two yards
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and two touchdowns. You said twelve catches. Yeah, doesn't that
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feel low? That was your spring prediction or your no,
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I did not do one in the spring. I only
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did one in the summer, and so this was pre camp,
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post post spring. Yeah, so you're stake. No, I feel
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it's a little bit low right now, because I've got
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some other numbers here that feel a little bit high.
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I also feel a little bit low. Definitely.
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The receptions I think are low for sure. That's that's
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my that's my take on that one. Well, and the
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thing that I want to how many yards in touchdowns?
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You say one.
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00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:20.079
Hundred and sixty two yards and two touchdowns? Okay, now, yeah,
479
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:21.200
I think that's all low.
480
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.319
With If he does have twelve touch or twelve catches
481
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:29.640
this season, he will tie for tenth all time in
482
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:34.319
Ohio State freshman wide receiver history with Chris Olave and
483
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:39.240
Dane Sanzenbacher. So Chris o' lobby played quite a bit
484
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:41.400
as a true freshman. He went twelve for one, ninety
485
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.480
seven and three. If brock Boyd can have that kind
486
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:46.759
of year, I think that's great. But Chris o'lbvey did
487
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:48.920
most of his work in the second half. So maybe
488
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:51.039
if brock Boyd can do it the entire season, then
489
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:55.039
those numbers are going to be higher. Here's one this
490
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:58.279
is This feels low to me now, especially after watching camp.
491
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.519
So this is Chris Henry junior, and it's not low
492
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.480
for a freshman. It's very high for a freshman. Twenty
493
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:12.000
six catches, three hundred and sixty eight yards and five touchdowns. Yeah,
494
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.440
I think it's low. So here's the deal, Ton.
495
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.400
When I'm looking at these two freshmen, I'm looking at
496
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.079
a couple of things. Number One, when we pull up
497
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.960
these pass stats with these wide receivers, they're coming in
498
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.880
so much more prepared now than they ever did before,
499
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.240
particularly Brock right, Like, I don't know that we can
500
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.960
recall a guy who's come in and we've heard this
501
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.480
many coaches say, this dude's like, you know, he's been
502
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.920
in college already, Like he's coming in at a way
503
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:45.480
different level. Far more advanced, not physically though physically has
504
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:47.240
a lot of talent that a lot of those guys had,
505
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:50.920
but but what he's doing and how fast he's up
506
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.000
to speed, I feel like the trust factor is much
507
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:58.799
different than freshmen were ten years ago. And then with Chris,
508
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:02.079
he also comes and pretty advanced on that end, but
509
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:06.400
then physically what he adds is just a different level
510
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.799
that makes you trust a little more there too. And
511
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.839
then in addition to that, the guys that are ahead
512
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.559
of them, right when you look at number when you
513
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.240
look at Bi great great teammate, great buck guy, not
514
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:20.680
a great wide receiver, not a guy that you're like,
515
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.839
we can't take him off the field. And Devin McEwan,
516
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.160
who has played really, really good so far since he's
517
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.480
been at Ohio State. But you know, there still are
518
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:31.279
some questions as to how good this is going to
519
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.200
be with him out there with Jeremiah or if it
520
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.079
doesn't look better with one of those two. We just
521
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.680
don't know yet about that. So because of all those factors,
522
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.400
I feel like, looking at these past great wide receivers
523
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:47.359
at Ohio State, what they did is freshman I think
524
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.279
there's a chance that these two kind of just both
525
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:50.319
blow it away.
526
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:54.839
Interesting because even with those numbers that I gave you
527
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.839
for Chris Henry Junior, which were twenty six for three
528
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.440
sixty eight, that would put him that would be the
529
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:06.480
fifth best all time among Ohio State freshmen, moving past
530
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:11.039
Ted Ginn and being just just behind Garrett Wilson. And
531
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.440
just to give people an idea that I haven't heard
532
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.000
us talk about this before. So Jeremiah Smith is the
533
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.480
freshman record holder seventy six catches. Chris Carter is number
534
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.519
two with forty one, David Boston is number three with
535
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.880
thirty three, and Garrett Wilson is number four with thirty
536
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.039
He's the only other receiver to hit thirty as a
537
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:31.720
true freshman. And so if they've got two guys that
538
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.319
can do that, you know, look out. But when I
539
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:36.160
say twenty six for three sixty eight, this is no
540
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.880
slight on Chris Henry Jr. This is just the reality
541
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:43.240
or the reality of the past. Who knows what the
542
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:48.440
reality of the future and the present is. Jeremiah Smith.
543
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:53.200
I'm I believe he's going to catch I think I said,
544
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.039
I think I have him tying like Terry Glenn's touchdown record.
545
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.880
So I think that's seventeen. But I have him beating
546
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.880
Jackson Smith's reception record of ninety five, but not beating
547
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.759
his sixteen hundred and six yards. So I'm going to
548
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:11.400
say something like, I'll just say one hundred catches for
549
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:18.480
about fourteen hundred and eighty five yards and seventeen touchdowns. One.
550
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.160
Don't you dare say that's not realistic or not attainable
551
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.079
because you're crazy. I know you're trying to say that.
552
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:24.559
You know you're trying to take all of the unders
553
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.960
on this one, but it's hard to say. Like Jeremiah Smith,
554
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:34.279
the projections are just limited by opportunities and quarterback being
555
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.839
upright and how the defenses are going to handle him.
556
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.920
But I do think he's going to break Jackson Smith's
557
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.039
in Jackson Smith and jigbas ninety five receptions provided they
558
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:49.400
play at least, say fifteen games. So he goes as
559
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:55.880
a freshman seventy six, sophomore eighty seven, and that's third
560
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.640
all time behind Paris Campbell's ninety and twenty eighteen and
561
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:04.480
jack Since ninety five and twenty twenty one. I just
562
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:05.079
kind of.
563
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.759
I kind of feel like there is and I know
564
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:10.799
that Ryan Day has been very reluctant to do this
565
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.279
over the last few years. But don't you feel like
566
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.319
there's gonna be a push to give him the biggest
567
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:22.839
possible bang that he could have, Like, we know what
568
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.480
he can do, let's make sure we give it to
569
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:29.240
him this year in his final year, because it also
570
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:34.039
is probably what's best for the team. So I like
571
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.240
your numbers, I don't know that I that I don't
572
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.240
feel like I would be like right there with you
573
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:40.440
on those numbers. It's kind of tough to take a
574
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:43.000
to take an under on that. I feel like it's
575
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.000
tough to take an over. Those are some really big
576
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.599
numbers with this slow offense, right Like those really big
577
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:53.119
with this offense. Yeah, it would feel very bold to
578
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:55.240
take the under for me too, So I don't really
579
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:55.839
want to do that.
580
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:58.759
I just think the sixteen hundred and six yards that
581
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.960
Jackson Spit the Jig had in twenty twenty one, like
582
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.480
it's you got to hit a three hundred and forty
583
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.000
seven yard game against in the Rose Bowl. He had
584
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.199
another two hundred yard game. He had two games of
585
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.519
fifteen catches like he had I think nine hundred and
586
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.840
fifty yards receiving in the last five or six games,
587
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.119
so it's like, you're not. I don't expect a tear
588
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.840
like that, especially since I don't think they're gonna nobody's
589
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.760
gonna put a running back on Jeremiah Smith in any
590
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.440
games this year, which which will help. But if they do,
591
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:33.320
you know, you're crazy. But so there's Jeremiah. I do
592
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:37.480
want to talk a little bit about Devn McEwen because here, boy,
593
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.599
here's some ebbs and flows that I've had with Devin McEwen.
594
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:45.719
Because we did an expectations show pre spring, so like
595
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.159
back in February, then we did another one post spring,
596
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.559
and let me just tell you, so the winter, I
597
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:57.239
had Devin McEwan with forty one catches for five hundred
598
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.239
and thirty seven yards and five touchdowns. Then I watched
599
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.000
him in the spring and didn't see much from him, right,
600
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.559
and my numbers went from forty one catches to twenty seven,
601
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.440
from five hundred and thirty seven yards to three hundred
602
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.639
and eighty four, from five touchdowns to three and then
603
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.239
so we're talking twenty seven catches for three hundred and
604
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.480
eighty four yards, three touchdowns. That was my pre camp.
605
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:25.039
Day two of camp happens and I'm ready like thousand yards.
606
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.599
So I think I would probably just maybe double my
607
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.599
twenty seven, three, eighty four and three as maybe a
608
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:39.880
mid point four or a guess for Devin McEwan. Uh, probably,
609
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.519
you know, probably better than doubling my winter numbers of
610
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.239
forty one, five, thirty seven and five. So if I
611
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.960
say fifty four catches for three hundred and or for
612
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.719
seven hundred and sixty eight yards or six, I'll get
613
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.199
this right, Yeah, seven sixty eight and six touchdowns? Where
614
00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:58.400
are you with Devin McEwen on that?
615
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:05.760
So, you know, back in spring, I always thought he
616
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.079
was going to be the starter at Z, but there
617
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:11.719
was a lot you know, Kyle Parker was also there
618
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:13.719
as well. And why is Kyle Parker there when he's
619
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.599
a natural fit in the slot and he's played seventy
620
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.320
five percent of his career snaps in the slot. Made
621
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.440
me think, well, maybe Devin McEwan's not doing what Devin
622
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.280
McEwen needs to do to win that role, and that's
623
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.800
why he's there a little insurance because now behind him
624
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:31.239
you got freshman Brock and Drew Quayon. So now that
625
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:34.639
it seems very very clear that not only has he
626
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:39.360
seized that role. But he is very, very capable of
627
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:42.079
doing the downfield stuff as we've seen it with our
628
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.800
own eyes, and he is pretty freaky.
629
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.280
I am feeling like.
630
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:51.519
Kind of right there with you because I don't want
631
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.840
to get ahead of myself, because then I also think
632
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:58.280
that there is going to be a push to get
633
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:03.039
brock and and to get Chris involved in a way
634
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:05.159
that you know, you know, when you look at next year,
635
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.800
you got to be able to answer that question rolling
636
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.280
into next year, what kind of portal additions do we
637
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:13.400
need to make in this room? How much can we
638
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.360
rely on these guys being high level guys in year two?
639
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:18.280
And I think that.
640
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:22.400
That shoulders some more experimentation on their part that they
641
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:26.280
both run with. So I feel like you're really well,
642
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:29.840
I would say maybe those are slightly under. I would
643
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.360
maybe say just a little bit under.
644
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.039
I think Ohio State would love that If those numbers
645
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.159
are under, and you're talking about an eight hundred yard
646
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.639
guy with fifty some catches and you know, a half
647
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:41.639
dozen to ten touchdowns, that would be great for that spot.
648
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:43.760
That would take some of the pressure off of Jeremiah Smith.
649
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.119
That would force the defense to focus more on the
650
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.920
other guys, which is really going to be devnic Q
651
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.599
in one of his key roles. It's just make a
652
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.719
safety pay attention to you, you know, and if they don't,
653
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.760
then make sure that that quarterback pays and that defensive
654
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.159
coordinator pays for not respecting you. And if he can
655
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:03.960
do that, then he could, you know, he could have
656
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:08.039
some really good numbers this year. The last thing on
657
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:10.840
these projections, I just want to talk about Brandon in
658
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.119
this because now I did this in the summer and
659
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:18.559
this feels I don't know, I don't know. You tell
660
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.639
me how you think this is. Because we're talking about
661
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.360
Brandon in this last year with like what thirty three
662
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:27.360
catches for like two hundred and seventy yards, So I'm
663
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.719
saying this year thirty five for four eighteen and four,
664
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.840
and if he can average that, you know, twelve or
665
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.119
thirteen yards of catch, I think that's a win almost
666
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.280
regardless of the number of catches that he has. But
667
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.880
thirty five four eighteen and four, which I did before
668
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.559
summer camp, how do you feel about that before fall camp?
669
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:49.400
So the receptions feels high to me now, though.
670
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.360
It almost does to me too, like I thought, honestly,
671
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:57.119
looking back at last year saying that he caught thirty
672
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.719
three balls, and man, it didn't feel like he caught
673
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.760
thirty three balls. And then you see the yards and
674
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.199
it's like, well, the players didn't really stand out. They
675
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.320
weren't very you know, the yards were so low for
676
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.280
thirty three balls. So I think it makes a lot
677
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.559
more sense when you put him up over four hundred
678
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:17.599
with about the same number of catches and you look
679
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:20.000
at this, you know, this tight end crew. How much
680
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.800
are they taken away from him? Are they taking away
681
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.920
as much as Max Claire would have Probably not, So
682
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.239
maybe that would logically tick him up a little bit more.
683
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.119
But then, you know, I just don't. I know that
684
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:38.440
there are some compilations out there of Brandon Innis running
685
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:40.840
wide open in a couple of games, and it's got everybody.
686
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.400
So this is all on Julian, Like you could put
687
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.000
one of those compilations together for every wide receiver on
688
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:52.519
every football team. I don't think honestly, Tony last year
689
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:56.800
when we watched bi in the spring and in the preseason,
690
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.360
he stood out more to me last year as being
691
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.880
quicker and more elusive going into the year than he
692
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:06.800
does this year. So like I'm not expecting much more
693
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:08.679
than what we got out of him last year. Not
694
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:11.519
because he is in a valuable football player. He's a
695
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:13.440
great member of the team, probably gonna win a captain
696
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.480
see him maybe the black Oh, very valuable dude. I
697
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:19.519
just don't think he's very valuable in the receiving game.
698
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.480
And that is why I clutch. He makes some clutch
699
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.599
catches here. Yeah there, that's great, got good hands. But
700
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.360
I don't think he's a production guy. So I'm gonna
701
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:32.320
go probably, you know, i'd go right with you there,
702
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.280
I'd go maybe a little bit, a little bit under.
703
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.400
I think a little bit under. It's interesting because we
704
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:42.760
did he did look quicker last fall camp, and you're like, Okay,
705
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:44.960
I see what all the talk is about. You know,
706
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.840
it's true, I see it, But then it didn't register.
707
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:51.440
And the thing that I always say about these these
708
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.519
compilations are he's running free, where is he in the progression?
709
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.320
Which read is he Because if he's four, it doesn't matter,
710
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.039
if he's three, it doesn't matter when one and two
711
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.360
or Jeremiah Smith and car So I don't want to like,
712
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.480
if he's running free, then put him higher into progression
713
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.880
and maybe they will, and maybe he'll shatter the numbers
714
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.199
that we've seen from him. I wonder if would you
715
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:16.639
say he's more likely to be like Xavier Johnson, who
716
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.400
had some big moments for the Buckeyes and in his
717
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:25.360
last two years, Xavier Johnson thirteen catches each year. But
718
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.599
I think I think because of his running back time,
719
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.400
we view him as more more than that, you know,
720
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.760
like he did more things. He made big plays. I
721
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.639
had big play against Georgia and other things like that.
722
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:44.679
But I wonder if maybe that's more along the lines
723
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:47.880
of what we'll see if the freshman can step in
724
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.599
and do some things. And I will say also TJ.
725
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.800
Alford this past week talking about your Quaighton Gilford said
726
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.360
he reminds him of Jamison Williams. He got some Jamison
727
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:01.000
Williams and some Garrett Wilson to him, so did So
728
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:05.239
we'll see anything else on what you're expecting, what you
729
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:06.719
think of this room this year.
730
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.199
I think we both talked a lot about how much
731
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:14.320
we like Philip Bell and you know, if there is
732
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:19.599
potentially an injury or something like, I just feel really
733
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.559
good about him being able to come in and fill
734
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.639
in a lot in the slot and be able to
735
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.079
hold it down at a pretty high level. He's waiting
736
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.239
for his opportunity. And you know, to your point about
737
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.800
Dez Dez Jones looked pretty dog one good this preseason.
738
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.440
He's coming along as well, a guy that rarely gets
739
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.760
talked about. So all in all, the depth of this room,
740
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.679
I feel really really good about I've felt.
741
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.719
I feel better about it now, certainly than I did
742
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:50.559
this summer when there were concerns and the opinion was, well,
743
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:52.440
let's see what happens in fall camp. I think we've seen.
744
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.039
And that's without seeing anything from Kyle Parker to this
745
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.519
point and the summer in the off season that Chris
746
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:02.800
Henry has had has been elite, and so it's would
747
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:04.440
stand to follow that he would just go ahead and
748
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:08.760
continue to be a viable option for the offense this
749
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:16.079
season to the future. Juck and that buddy. First, let's
750
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:19.159
real quick. On twenty twenty seven, you got Jimmy or Brown,
751
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:20.679
you got Jordan Dona. Who are they done?
752
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:21.000
Is there?
753
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:23.360
You know? Is somebody gonna pop back up? Well? Will
754
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:25.559
there be a senior season where they're like yeah, you know, well,
755
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.320
let's see, they've already got a Jordan Dona who type.
756
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:29.400
I don't know that they want to go ahead and
757
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.159
take another flyer on somebody unless there's an elite trait
758
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.920
that they're like, well, let's let's see. But do you
759
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:36.960
think they're done? I think so.
760
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.320
I think this is how it closes at wide receiver,
761
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:44.639
barring seeing a situation pop up like we're seeing at
762
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.679
running back with Trenard Roberts, which is you know, it's
763
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.239
just doubtful that we're gonna see a super high level
764
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.800
guy that nobody knew about or somebody knew about, and
765
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.639
he disappeared and now he's back. And I don't think
766
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:01.719
that they are looking for another projecty guy. You got
767
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:05.440
Jayden Ricketts on the roster from last year with like
768
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.800
you said, he's got an elite trade, really really fast guy.
769
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:11.360
You get Donahue who's got the size. You kind of
770
00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.280
got your bases covered there, So I don't see another
771
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:15.519
one of those type dudes.
772
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.800
Moving then to twenty twenty eight, which I'm wondering and
773
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:26.000
we'll talk about this is this going to be assuming
774
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:28.599
everything goes as plan? The twenty twenty seven defensive line
775
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.760
class where you know they've got Jet Harrison are committed.
776
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.800
Do you expect that he will sign. They're right up
777
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:39.119
there with Brayln Clark, five star out of North Carolina. There.
778
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.440
You know, we'll see what happens with Lorenzo McMullen in state,
779
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:47.159
five star from since Cincinnati Princeton watching him the other
780
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:51.920
day play his season opener, Like is there a world
781
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.960
where the Buckeyes can sign those three guys? And is
782
00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:59.719
the money there? And that's also factoring in. Is Brandon
783
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:03.599
in his as Devin McEwan back, is Kyle Parker back?
784
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.280
Like Parker has another well they all have another year
785
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:09.480
of eligibility now, but those are also decisions that would
786
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.519
factor and frankly, we'll have to see what those seasons
787
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.280
are to see like who would they rather have a
788
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.760
five star freshman that they really want or one last
789
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.440
year with a senior who frankly, if they're thinking about it,
790
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:24.599
then they should kind of move on.
791
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:29.920
What and like, honestly, to imagine if it is Brandon
792
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:32.360
Innis who wants to play the year, but he.
793
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.360
Puts up the same year he did last year.
794
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.559
You got this guy who's an amazing leader and everything
795
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.039
else and all these great things about him, but you know,
796
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.280
not a standout and then you're gonna pay him what
797
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:49.480
you'd pay a guy like a McMullen or or a
798
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:53.280
Braylen Clark. I mean, it's a really different position that
799
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.480
you're in now. Or Kyle Parker, Let's say he's you know,
800
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:58.519
somewhat banged up for most of the year and doesn't
801
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.239
get to play much, and you know, what's your decision.
802
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.239
Then of course Cortes Aancton has that relationship with them.
803
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.400
You know, when we look at positions as we're now
804
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.639
in this era where you know, you pick your positions
805
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:12.679
where you're going to take your swing every year. Of
806
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:16.079
course we saw that at defensive end in this class
807
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:17.159
of twenty twenty seven.
808
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:18.960
Where's it going to be next year?
809
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:24.679
You look obviously at quarterback for sure, you got a
810
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:28.199
top five running back committed in the class. I think
811
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.400
that the defensive tackle, you know already with Jamir Weiss
812
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:35.840
pushing for Kellen Hall. And we talked about tis On
813
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:41.199
Swan or aid yeah, Aiden Avili recently in a show
814
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:43.880
and on the board at buck Eye Insider's we can
815
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.400
join us and talk about all this good stuff way
816
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:48.840
ahead of time. You get all the juice long before
817
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:53.639
everybody else. And I think that defensive tackle is definitely
818
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:56.719
a position, but then you look at safety, where they're
819
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:59.400
also in on Casey Barner, who's taking the Internet by
820
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.920
storm Casey Barner as Ohio State right at the top
821
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.840
of his list. I think that more than planning ahead
822
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.760
for this, it's almost like, yeah, here's where we'd like
823
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.519
to take a swing. This would be ideal, but where
824
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:13.239
are we building These early relationships with that are going
825
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:16.079
to help us lock it down, and then we decide
826
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.079
from there where we're going to swing the money. And
827
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:22.199
it certainly looks like at wide receiver, early relationships with
828
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:26.320
top tier dudes lines you up, and it also sets
829
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:29.400
up for the room where investing heavily in twenty twenty
830
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:33.719
seven with Eric McFarland and a couple of the other
831
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.320
top tier prospects like Monshuine Sales that they had a
832
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.960
relationship with, it didn't really make a ton of sense
833
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.519
to put them in the heels right after the guys
834
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:43.559
you just got this year with Brock and Drew Quayden
835
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.239
and Chris Henry, where you spend a lot of money
836
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.440
in that class, make it every other year, so you're
837
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.599
certainly aligned. Braylan Clark loves Ohio State. You get two
838
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:54.679
of them, get Jet and Brailan, And I do think
839
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:59.119
Jet done deal. If you can get Jet and Brailand
840
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:04.400
with those type of guys, your your money. McMullen, I think,
841
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:08.880
to me, even though he is currently rated right you know,
842
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:10.880
right up there high, I don't put him in the
843
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:13.840
same category of talent, and I'm not so sure that
844
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:15.679
he would be worth that same kind of money if
845
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.199
that's what he's going to require to get.
846
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.159
So we'll see about that one. But yeah, I do
847
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:20.719
think it'll be.
848
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.920
A really highly rated class here at the wide Receiver room.
849
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:26.920
It'll be fun to watch them put that together. And
850
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:31.119
then invariably at this time every year you're looking ahead
851
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:32.920
at the next class, you're like, oh, yeah, it's like
852
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.639
Kean Keeley and Dylan Stewart and you know all these guys.
853
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:37.360
You know they're all gonna end up you know whatever,
854
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:39.679
and every year is going to be the best class ever.
855
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.519
So it never happens that way. So then you're like, well,
856
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.239
if it's not, you know which one is, who's the
857
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:46.840
odd man out? If, like you said, if they can
858
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.360
get to and the way Brayln Clark talks and people
859
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:53.719
talk about him like that's he's it's almost their their
860
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:56.280
recruitment to lose, and they could We've seen we've seen
861
00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:00.480
that happen with other top flight prospects. Uh. And so
862
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.079
it you know it is, then it becomes well, as
863
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:04.599
long as you get one of the guys. And it's
864
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.239
like three months ago you were saying all three could
865
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.199
be in here. So it's like, well, as long as
866
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:12.159
next year, as long as you can keep somebody, as
867
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:14.360
long as you keep Austin Miller in twenty twenty nine,
868
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.599
it doesn't matter if you didn't get anybody in twenty
869
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:20.199
twenty eight, but twenty twenty eight looks very good. Twenty
870
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.719
twenty nine, the rankings came out and Austin Miller, who
871
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.280
was discussed as the top receiver in the class, suddenly
872
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:31.400
when the rankings come out, it's like, well, he's committed,
873
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.039
so how far can we drop him? And he's like
874
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.119
number ten or whatever right now and borderline top one
875
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:41.960
hundred guy. But the twenty twenty nine there there's a
876
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:45.320
couple of guys there as well, including what a kid
877
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:50.000
from Mueller that I watched the other night, who's like
878
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.519
a top ten receiver, like six' three two o five
879
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:54.960
already looks. Big they're calling him a tight end on
880
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.079
the broadcast because it's like that's what he looks. Like he's, like,
881
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.519
no he's just he's just a big. Receiver So Austin
882
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.079
miller a great start for them in twenty twenty, nine for.
883
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:09.800
SURE i So rivals comes out number eleven wide receiver
884
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.000
in the, country number ninety six. Overall two four to
885
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.639
seven rolls out in their initial ranking On Austin miller
886
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:20.239
number ten wide, receiver number fifty, overall And i'm just
887
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.719
like busting a gut. MAN i, mean it is so
888
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:27.119
comical to me that they think they can find ten
889
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:31.719
prospects that have a Brighter and remember they grade these
890
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:32.639
guys on.
891
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.400
Their PROJECTED nfl draft. Stock that's how they grade.
892
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:40.800
Themselves this guy is the closest thing To megatron at
893
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:45.039
fifteen years, old Since. Megatron but you, know there's not
894
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:46.679
a ton of film on. Him he hasn't been to
895
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:49.440
a ton of, camps which is what they always. SAY i, mean,
896
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:53.199
yeah you watch him FOR i don't, know six or seven,
897
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:55.800
plays and it's enough to tell you that this is
898
00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:00.440
absolutely a top three wide receiver in any, class just that.
899
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.440
Simple so that'll definitely play out like that in the,
900
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.440
end and he is certainly a guy that for as
901
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.960
long as he has to go Before penn gets put to,
902
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:15.079
paper really seems like, boy he's enamored With Ohio, state
903
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.159
mature parents who seem to really like that and like
904
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:25.000
the structure that one feels awfully good for so far, out.
905
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:28.800
And he's a mature guy and he's very he's approaching
906
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:33.000
this very. Professionally we also saw at camp Saw Sip,
907
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:37.039
cooper who is the number two receiver for twenty four to,
908
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.079
seven And Maddix porter looked very. Good he's the number one,
909
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:42.360
receiver number four player overall for twenty four to. Seven
910
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:46.400
also in that twenty nine. CLASS i really really really
911
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:48.480
Liked Maddix. Porter we talked To Sip. Cooper he has
912
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:54.559
now since committed TO, smu so that's. Right as with
913
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:57.840
ALL smu commits at this, point it's, like, well it's very,
914
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.719
early and yes he's From, Frisco, texas AND i, understand
915
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.239
but still there's.
916
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.119
Gonna be Hayden. Ko we really liked as. Well hayden
917
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:09.679
cou from Another West coaster Like Blake. Wong Hayden ku
918
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:12.199
came in and uh and in stole the show one,
919
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:16.000
day gout his, offer and he's climbing the rankings.
920
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:17.880
Too i'd really like to see him in the. Class
921
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:21.000
they nobody could cover him that, day and, YEAH i
922
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:22.559
think he had the holes in his shirt to prove,
923
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:26.920
it like just getting ripped up and grabbed and was
924
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.559
letting people know that he just scored. Again it was
925
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.559
fun to, watch and it's always interesting to see you're
926
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.000
watching these camps and then you start looking at rankings
927
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.360
months afterwards or however long, afterwards you, LIKE i saw that,
928
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:41.639
guy saw that. Guy, oh this is the number four
929
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:42.960
guy and this is the number one guy in the. Nation,
930
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:46.239
yeah we watched him running, hoops we saw him doing,
931
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:49.920
this he saw him doing. That it's just like it's
932
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.559
the very first place to see like the next college
933
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:56.519
stars because they're coming from all over the Place, California, Florida, alabama.
934
00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:59.320
Wherever a ton of, fun man a ton of. Fun
935
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:02.199
and those are open at the. Public anybody can. Go
936
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:05.119
H SO i highly recommend. It if you like falling,
937
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.679
recruiting you can go to Those ohio state camps and look.
938
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.719
At these dudes in, person but know who you're looking. For,
939
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:13.400
yeah that's or else you're you're not gonna see.
940
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:16.760
To get organized ahead of. Time we'll tell you firsthand.
941
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.639
Experience, yeah it's it's it's a tire. Fire it's a
942
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:21.880
mass trying to figure, out, well did this person say
943
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:23.320
they said they were going to be? Here are they?
944
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:25.800
HERE i don't know. Yet they haven't. Arrived they're playing
945
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.400
supposed to land, Here and and then you're just you're
946
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:30.679
everybody's cross. Referencing have you seen this? Guy whereas you
947
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:31.960
have you? Seen who is this? GUY i don't. Know
948
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.920
we're trying to figure out who that. Is so if you,
949
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:36.639
go if you do not go, in if you go
950
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:38.599
in with no, plan you're just gonna see a bunch of.
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that's also what, happens, because like you, SAID i talked
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with some fans who just showed up and wanted to see,
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it and they're, like who's? This And i'm, LIKE i
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think this is this and this is the quarterback you
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need to, watch and this is this Guy and get
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to sound like an expert at, times as long as
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they're asking about the right.
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People that Is, heck we thought we were looking At
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William green saw. Right well we were kid's Name's William
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Former William green From miami and Different William green From.
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Texas very very.
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Good got A buckeye offer top top three hundred. Kids so,
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yeah chance.
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has been a long time coming and a it's a
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very difficult thing to, do and that's WHY i did
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not do, it and that's WHY i Had juck do it,
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instead BECAUSE i DON'T i don't want to go through
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that mental anguish and knowing that you can't possibly get it,
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right and you're supposed to put it out there for.
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Everybody so if you're watching on, YouTube Let juck know
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where he was, wrong let him know what's your and
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as you do, that let's see your top ten or top.
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it's an emotional. Journey if you just want to do
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a mountain, rushboard that's fine as, well but always interested
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to see what the people have to say about their.
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Rankings hit the thumbs up if you would subscribe to the.
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interaction Me Juck. Tom you Got Marcus harman talking basketball and.
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Football you got our ex'es and o's, Gurus Ross fulton
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Football we're all, there and, like if this show interests
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it from. Here thank you all so much for tuning,
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