Source Material #407 - Daytripper #7-10 (Vertigo, 2010)

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Good cooks around with he will slide and feelings take
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time down with he too dissect Still He's a y,
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a sub material ten pound time Are you ready?
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For?
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The last?
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Four?
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Issue seven? Bross is thirty eight, now a successful novelist,
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recognized on planes and that events for his book Silken Eyes.
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Though admired by strangers who act as if they know
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him through his work, Bross reflects on how few people
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truly know him and his thoughts returned to Jorge, his
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old friend who vanished years ago. Following a post guard,
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Bros Travels to a remote coastal village that he hears
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from locals how Jorgey lived as a drifter, eventually isolating
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himself in the dunes. When Bros finally finds him, Jorge
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is gaunt and unstable. The reunion turns violent. Jorge, racked
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by regret and madness, suddenly attacks and kills Bross before
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taking his own life. The issue closes with an obituary
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framing Bros's death is the tragic end of a man
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who believed in friendship, only to be betrayed by it.
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In issue eight, we shift focus to Bross's family life,
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told largely through the perspective of Anna and their son.
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Miguel Bross, now in his forties, is off and away
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on book tours, but he leaves behind letters, notes, and
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messages that tether him to his wife and child. Through
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Anna's memories and Miguel's admiration, we see the warmth of
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his presence and deep ache of his absence. Daily routines, breakfast,
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school pickups, bedtime stories highlight the bonds that define their lives,
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even as Bross's constant traveling strains them. When Miguel proudly
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shares his father's words at school, the poignancy of Bros's
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absence cuts deep. The issue ends with Anna and Miguel
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clinging to Broz's lingering presence through his letters and recorded words,
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reminders of love that persists even when the man himself
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passed away at a hospital. In issue nine, Bross is
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caught in a layered dream that blurs the line between memory, fantasy,
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and reality. He drifts through surreal landscapes, guided at times
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by Jorge, at other times by visions of his son
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and father. The dream confronts him with the truth he
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has long avoided, that death is inseparable from life and
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endings on what gives stories meaning. He explains this to
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his young son, and the dream blankening life to a
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book that can only be understood once the final page
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is turned. Moving through symbolic spaces a canyon, a tree,
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a beach filled with kites, Bross slowly accepts that he
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cannot wake up, that this dream is really the passage
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toward death. At last, he wakes up and steps peacefully
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into the light, introducing himself as a dreamer ready to
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write his own final story, and in the tenth and
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final issue, bringing Bross's journey to its end. At age
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seventy six, diagnosed with brain tumors, he refuses further treatment,
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choosing instead to spend his last days with his family
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and in his home. He reflects on the meaning of
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home not as a place, but as the people in
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memories that shape it. Surrounded by his wife and son,
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he finds peace and continuity, the passing on a family tradition,
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and love. His son delivers him a letter written decades
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earlier by Bros's own father, offering wisdom about parenthood and
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the inevitability of letting go. As the words guide him,
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Bross walks alone to the beach at night, casting flowers
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into the sea and accepting death as part of the
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great cycle of life. The series closes with him fading
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into the ocean under a starry sky, his father's letter
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reminding us that every ending is part of the miracle
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of existence. All right, that is our final four issues,
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Issue seven. I'm just gonna go ahead and touch back
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on what happened with Orgey, and you tell me if
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you thought this as well. I feel like the event
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where Jorgey did not die caused him to have some
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type of mental break. He goes to that island, or
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he stays on the island, and they think he's a
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tourist at first, and then he just kind of stays there,
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he doesn't leave, and then he's sitting at the bar
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writing postcard after postcard. I don't think he sends half
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of them, if any of them, except for the one
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that he gets, but there's a ton of them there.
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When Ross finally finds him.
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And the disillusionment of adulthood doesn't it. Here's this guy
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who you know, he has kind of a lase fair,
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carefree attitude, but he's also a working man, just like Bras.
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But in his case, adulthood just snapped him.
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Like.
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There's a lot of this going on in this book,
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where you know, much like death, adulthood is disforced this
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entity and it's not changing. You either live with it
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or it crushes you. In the case of Linda, or
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she was just like the adulthood sucks tweet forever and
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runs out the door. In the case of this guy,
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he can't get his shit together and because it's psychotic
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break and it's just stabbing Bras on the beach.
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Took me by surprise number one. Throughout this whole thing,
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you're like Orges his best friend. He's gonna finally Jorge,
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they're going to be buds or whatever. But he finds
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him and he is just not all right. I think
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there's also a commentary there about friendships that kind of
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go away and what it's like to find them again. Now, granted,
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your best friend that you might have had back in
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sixth grade isn't going to hopefully stab you to death.
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A few people from high school in elementary school that
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would still stab me to death. Many Oh wow, there's
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definitely a handful of guys though they fucking see me.
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I'm a dead man. Oh no, are are you coming
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to the thirty year reunion absolutely not not happening.
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Yeah, it's tough. And sometimes when you meet up again
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with that person after so much time has passed that
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it's almost like they're not the same. Brass's like, come
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back with me, come on, let's go back to civilized society,
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and he is not having it.
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I don't. I mean, you're still you're still living, like
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in your hometown and whatever else, so you may be
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connected with people you knew from high school. But through
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social media, I still see like the occasional person in
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the same grade or grade ahead of me on Facebook,
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and yeah, they're fairly active. They'll post stuff and I.
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I'm as somebody.
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Who has been described as a very angry person. I
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look at what some people put out there. From the
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people I grew up with, you know, all middle upper
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middle class, mostly Caucasian, Italian, Irish Jewish, all the same background,
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most of us two parent homes, they're also fucking angry,
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you know. I see so much of that, like on
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social media, at least what they're putting out there. I
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remember catching up with an old friend of guy who
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lived across the street from and it was like I
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voiced an opinion that he didn't like and was like,
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you're you know, you're a Nazi and like all right,
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you know, and was like I'll never speak to you again,
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and I'm like barely speaking now.
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I don't know how many friendships I've kind of watched
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dissolve on Facebook here lately. It was obviously a lot.
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But if there was a really weird interaction I saw
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over the weekend, somebody knew this person from the past
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and they were I'm deleting you and called them a
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couple names. You watched the friendship dissolved. Yeah, there's some
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anger out there for sure.
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Just like ca hear that nobody knows how to handle.
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Right, right, I'm starting to realize that a lot of
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people believe that is their only outlet to attack somebody online.
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That is their way of handling their anger. I don't
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think a lot of people take into account their mental health.
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Martins would say, social social if social media would dry up,
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if everybody had impulse control, Oh.
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Dude, what would it be like if that wasn't there?
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Right?
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I mean, do those feelings go away or do these
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people start hitting their kids again? Because if that's the case,
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then I guess social media is serving a purpose.
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My children or put a retard post on Facebook? What
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am I gonna do?
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I'll tell you which one you should do. Issue eight,
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the one where it is just Anna and Miguel going
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about their day when Bros. Dies. That one wrecked me.
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That was rough, Yeah, And I think a lot of
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that is because we're at Issue eight. At this point,
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we know what's going to happen to Bros. We get
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to watch other people experience that. His son, who's like,
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I want to say eight or nine, there's career day
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going on, and it's like it's a train wreck now
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that you know is going to happen, and you're reading
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this and you get to watch them experience these feelings.
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As sad man, I.
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Quite know how much you touch the people around you
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until you're gone, and by then it's too late. Avin
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once said, suicide's the most selfish thing because while a
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man your pain, you do nothing but cause pain to
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people around you. You really don't know how you're or
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being gone is going to impact the people around you. Look,
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I have some dark days, but I will always remember
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that the most important people on earth are my kids,
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and that's worth fighting another day, right, He has kids
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that anchor them to the world as they're about to
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float away into the sun. For a lot of people,
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it's a bigger struggle. For me, it is the thing
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that really keeps me grounded, knowing that if I can't
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gather the mental strength to continue to go on do
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it for them at the very least, a lot of
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people don't make that calculus.
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Well, I'll roll my comments from that into what we
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learn in the final issue. Bross is now seventy six
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years old, learning that he is going to die eventually,
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and he's come to his brain answer right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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and he's come to accept that he's no longer going
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to try to fight it. So his son has grown.
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I was moving into his mom's old house and there
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was this was a moment, man. There was a copy
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of Bross's novel sitting on his dad's desk. When the
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kid moved in, he starts packing up everything in the
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study and he tells Bros. He's like, Dad, hey, I
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found this on grandpa's old desk, in the novel that
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you wrote. I guess it just sat there, like you know.
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I'm sure his dad was very proud and left it
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there to understand his son's accomplishments. He said, I open
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it up and there's this envelope. The envelope contains a
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letter that his dad wrote on the day his son
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was born and his wife was in the labor That's
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the way we closed this book. His dad's thoughts on
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how you are no longer the sole reason for being
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on this planet, the kid that you were having, That
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is the sole reason you belong here. That is the
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sole reason for your existence. This is no longer your
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life now it is your kids. You are now giving
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your life to your kids. As he's reading this on
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the date he's decided he is leaving, he has done
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fighting the fight to stay alive. It just hits doubly
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hard because that has been sitting there for years, for
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at least thirty years, and he's never read it. Powerful.
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It was very powerful, and you know, he just has
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that moment that he's sitting there gosh, flipping back to
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issue eight before I forget about this the whole on
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a listening to voicemails of Brass that he left, you know,
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the days before he died. I mean again, that should
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I do with my dad? My dad left me voicemails.
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I still have shit from you know, three or four
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years before he died, still saved on my phone and
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I listened to it every once in a while. So
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there's a lot of real experience that this book is
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talking to you, talking to me with.
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That's the best thing about it. I know I did
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my usual keyed into the relationship or like a toxic woman,
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But all of this book.
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Is just who I am, and that's all I can be.
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But I think if people are like, would you recommend
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Day Tripper? Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it because of
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any of the other reasons it's been recommended. I would
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recommend it because I haven't seen two guys in the
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comic book world really capture human behavior and relationships as
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good as these two guys did. This is lived experience
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in comic book form. It's pretty brilliant. Is it like
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the best thing I've ever read? No, there's stuff that
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I got more excited about, stuff that kind of touched me.
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But some people that really don't get into media to
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see real life reflected in any way. They want pure escapism.
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That's not this book. Short of the fact that the
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guy dies in every chapter, this this book very much.
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I told you, Like I said, there were at least
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two different engagem Rum was through the book out the window.
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So it got to me so badly, and people would
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really struggle with that. Like I would guarantee you if
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we had ten of like we had Chris Bailey, Ronnie Alexis,
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you know, Pat and Robert read this book, we would
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get ten different reactions. At least three or four of
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those guys would be like, this isn't why I read
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comics and set it on fire. This is a semi
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legitimate criticism of I read comics for fantasy. I read
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comics for escapism. I don't read to be reminded. People
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are shitty. Life is short, death comes for assault. Thanks,
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I got it. Life is also hard, No shit, we
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may action comics. I'm glad we did this. This is
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one of those where I kind of fell asked backwards
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into doing this book. I was looking for something connected
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to the Crow. I was curious about Day Tripper because
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I kept seeing it everywhere. Now that I've read it,
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I get why this got an Eisner Award. I get
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why people I also so understand why people actively ignored it.
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artist in me appreciates what's going on in this book.
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The business person and me's like, who did you make
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this for? Who reads comics?
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How did we decide that audience and this format? I
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have this really great idea and every issue the guy
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dies and it's going to talk about life, the universe
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and everything in relationships is gonna be Like every emotional
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pain you've ever felt is going to be in this book,
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from birth to death. Great, how do you want to
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tell that story? I'm thinking comic book the ship that's
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Superman's in But here we are, this is the book
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right here. It's comic book.
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That's what makes the medium beautiful.
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And by the way, what do you think of the
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Dunesbury artwork.
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I didn't hate it, I honestly did not. I thought
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that there is a place for that type of art
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and it didn't attract from the story for me.
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I was actually expecting it to be a little bit
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more loose, a little bit more fluid, especially because like
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they're oh yeah, because right well, and also because of
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the use of watercolor. But that's only in the covers.
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If they were using war colors throughout the book, it
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doesn't show because the artwork is still pretty sharp, very defined.
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All right, well that was your final thoughts. I definitely
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think that if you want to read a comic about
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life and death, much like what we talked about with
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the many deaths of what, you want to.
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Be depressed for an hour, you're not angry the rest
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of the day.
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I think a lot of what I worked through reading this,
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you know, there was a bit of like, Okay, why
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is this happening to this? S guy? Okay, there's a
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message here? Am I getting the message? And then you know,
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talking it out. I think this is one of those
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books that's perfect for a book club, you know, because
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just like you said, if we had five or six
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different people that read the book, they're going to come
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at it with their own got you heard so many
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lived experiences that I had tonight because this book echoed
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that for me, and I think it has a lot
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to offer of those same experiences.
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Her I didn't really relate to the book at all.
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Ah, I don't know about it. All right, Well, there
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it is, Ladies and gentlemen. We discussed the day trip remark.
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Rad Let's let's go ahead and get into plugs.
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Alrighty, Well, the next time we're doing source material, we're
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skipping the month of October and going right into November
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because we're prepping for Christmas. I originally was stacking books
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and then you hollered at me, So I just left
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one book with eighty pages long. I want to talk
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about the Santa Claus Private Eye by Jeremy Bernstein.
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I've never heard of this sounds interesting though. Yeah.
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One day each year, Santa Claus brings present to the
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children all over the world. The other three hundred and
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sixty four he moon lights us Nick Santana, Nick Santana
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trying to make his way into lonely City. This is
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right up our alley.
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Oh my gosh, I mean, you gotta have something else
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to do the rest of the years.
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I love it absolutely. So that's what we're gonna talk
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about next, and then maybe we'll add something to that
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particular episode. Eighty pages is not a lot, Okay, Well,
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you and I will talk and see what else we're
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gonna talk about on that episode. That is our anchor
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book that we're doing. Because I initially had more and
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then I was like, oh, I don't know how many
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issues this amounts to. So I'll just do the one
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book and not get myself in trouble in the meantime.
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Tomorrow you'll be back again. I will. I can't quit you,
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Jesse Stacia, where we're talking Happy Gilmore, Two, Heads of State,
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and The Thursday Murder Club. Have you finished watching all
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these movies?
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It's funny because this is one of the few times
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I watched all of these movies before you scheduled them.
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Oh yeah, Like.
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I watched The Thursday Murder Club. I was like, oh,
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I gotta watch this, and I was like, what the
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heck is Heads of State? Oh, that's right. I watched
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it like a month ago with me and then Happy
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Give More to We watched it within two or three
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days after it released on Netflix.
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That when I watched a little while ago, because Erica
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and I watched it all right. Then Alexis and Robert
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will be reviewing Damue Hollywood. They'll be reviewing The Long Walk.
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I will be going to CAD's The Elephant on Wednesday,
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but you and Alexis will be reviewing Stranger Things season two,
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and then I'll be back on Thursday with David and
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Kathleen Scott. We will be talking Star trek Strange New
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World Season three. Next week, you and I will be
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doing Paradise Lost Ascension on the Metal Hammer of Doom Jukebox.
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Then we'll be doing him on Damuel Hollywood and Wednesday,
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Harry Broadhurst and I doing Beyond Wrestling American Rana. Yeah,
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and then finally another triple feature catch up episode myself,
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Mick and Robert and Gavin. We'll see who actually shows up.
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We'll be reviewing Drop, Echo and Sinners. Yep, it's September.
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We're finally getting to Sinners, the one movie everyone fucking
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loved when it came out and saw and we've skipped
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because I wanted to talk about WrestleMania instead.
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I have not had a chance to watch it, but
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I've been one. You're the only one, apparently, apparently. What's
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going on with you, ladies and gentlemen? Tomorrow On the
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Source Material Comics podcast Darth Vader, the third volume is
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going to drop. You can hear me and Mark Radlic
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reached the end of the saga that occurred in Marvel
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Comics Darth Vader. We talked about Vader down already. Now
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we're getting into some of the crazy stuff. The shoe
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torn War, the Darth Vader takes control of a space
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whale and drives it right into the sun. Spoiler alert
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that's going to air tomorrow. Last week on Unspoken Issues,
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myself and Chris Armstrong got together and we discussed Spectacular
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Spider Man number one eighty five. Next up Snap material. Yes,
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myself and Evan's got together a couple of weeks ago
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and talked about the latest season of Snap Marvel the
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mobile game that you can play called Marvel Snap that's
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on your phone, and we talked about last season upcoming season.
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Our top five was fun. Evan's like, let's just do
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top five character slash cards that remind you of football.
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The one Top fives Marvel Snap. Top Fives with Evans
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fun because we do some off the wall crap. It's
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fun to see how much overlap we have because we
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each have a top five. That was a good time.
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At the very least, check that episode out. I'm sure
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it'll keep you entertained. One more plug for Unspoken Issues.
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I'm currently in the process of doing Black September. That
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was an event that occurred thirty years ago where Marvel
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acquired Malibu and they were like, hey, we're going to
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bring this universe into ours. We're going to fold it in.
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You ever hear about Prime Mark, Yeah, we talk. You
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Ever hear about Hard Case Ultra Force? Okay, well you
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heard about him thirty years ago. You hear about him now?
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No you don't.
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Why are you.
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There's a lot of anger and upsettedness about the fact
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that they took these characters own the universe, and now
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they just don't use them because of reasons. You can
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hear me and Chris Armstrong and some great backing tracks
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to some of the story that's happening there all September long.
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I'm covering that whole event that occurred thirty years ago
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at least lead up to Black September in the first
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issues of the reboot. So that's it. That's all I have.
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Thanks for joining us. All of this would not be
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