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Good times around.
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We'll here you real slap and Billy take time down.
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We're here too, sac the storm.
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He's in a yard material fat walk off walk. It's
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time for game Chicken.
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Bare that sounds tasty.
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Howard Stern took the melody of Day Tripper by the Beatles, okay,
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and he would play a game on The Howard Stern
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Show called gay Chicken, which I know you've played before.
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I remember when, remember when we were watching Rage against
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the Machine and we were waiting, you know, it was
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in between sets and we were waiting for Rais against
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the Machine came out. I'm like, hey, Jesse, you want
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to play a game? You know, you like try to play.
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You try to get me to play Marble Snap. But
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I'm like, put that away. How about you me an
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arousing game of gay Chicken?
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Okay?
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Do you remember that?
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I do not remember that at all.
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It's time forget Chicken. Oh boy, day.
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Trip I love it. My goodness, Mark Ratleics, you've done
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it again.
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This is another fine mess. You've gotten this into Rattlage.
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Well here's the thing. So yes, we're gonna be talking
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about Day Tripper to night. We're going to be talking
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about Gay Chicken. Remember a twenty ten comic book came
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out from Vertigo, and I had heard about this book.
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I didn't know anything about it other than I just
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heard it was good.
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Yeah, So this is where for a while it was
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on a bunch of reading lists. If you walk into
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Barnes and Nobles, it was on an end cap or
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a featured comic book. They pushed this comic pretty hard,
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especially when it came out as a trade.
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So I think maybe i'd heard about it from another podcast.
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I'm assuming this was a mark shelf deal here, and
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this was sitting on your shelf.
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So actually this is because of The Crow. Remember that's right.
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I wanted to do The Crow, and I went to
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Fancy and it's like, find you books like the Crow
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we haven't already done. And it suggested Day Tripper and
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the many deaths of Layla's Star. And then after Darth Vader,
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you were like, please stop trying to review fifty comics
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in one show. So we moved Day Tripper to its
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own episode.
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Okay, and this definitely feels like that was part of
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that trilogy. When you compare this, it definitely reminds me
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of many deaths.
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That's what it was like. It took like death and
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resurrection from Crow and was like run with that. Yeah
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that's how Day Tripper and many deaths of Laylis Star
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all got roped in there.
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Yeah all right, I want to read it all.
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Something.
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I had our buddy chat GPT do some deep research and.
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You hand on my inner thigh, give a big squeeze
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and read to me.
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Here we go, like I said, Tennis U comic book
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limited series. This is created by Brazilian twin brothers Fabio
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Moon and Gabriel Bah. The story follows Brass Domingos.
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Spanish is delectable.
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Thank you very much. I took two years of it
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in high school.
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Your Portuguese.
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I'll roll my rs just like I was saying hide
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in Italia.
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Listen if you can't, if you can't roll your eyes,
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you can always give him the old popeye.
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I give the h an aspiring novelist who writes newspaper
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obituaries for a living. Each issue of Day Tripper depicts
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an important day in Bross's life, be it a personal milestone, reunion,
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or turning point, and ends with Bross's death in an
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alternate reality. These repeated deaths are not literal continuity, but
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a narrative device. With each chapter, that comic explores what
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is the meaning of life by showing fucking.
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Tries to figure that out? And I had to go
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to chat ept. But why does he keep dying?
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Yeah, this dude keeps dying? What is going on here?
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I'm waiting for the big reveal at the end and
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lo and behold it's that does not happen. There's not
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like some of why this is occurring. This is just
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a narrative. Use narrative here, so it shows how even
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ordinary days can become profound and retrospect. To cross the series,
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Bros experiences love, friendship, family, success, and loss, living many
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possible lifetimes, only to die at the end of each scenario.
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Despite its morbid premise, Day Tripper is ultimately a hopeful
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meditation on life, highlighting the beauty in everyday moments and
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the legacy we leave behind. At its core, Day Trippers
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about life, death, and the value of each day. Moon
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and Bah, whose death is a narrative hook, bross many
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deaths to illuminate the preciousness of life. As one reviewer noted,
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make no mistake, Day Tripper is the celebration of life.
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Death in this book is merely a device to drive
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home the message of seizing the day garpe DM because
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it could be your last. Each chapter highlights a defining
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moment in Bros's life, his first kiss, reunion with an
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old friend, the birth of this child, the loss of
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a parent, emphasizing that these pivotal experiences shape who we are.
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By showing Bros At different ages, the story asks the
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reader to consider which moments truly matter in a person's journey.
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The origin of the concept came from a sudden insight
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by Gabriel, who recalls thinking of how a lost bullet
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could cross his window and kill him out of the blue,
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and just like that, what would be his life up
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until that point? What does death mean in our lives?
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This more of a thought sparked the idea of a
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character who lives many lives and dies repeatedly in different ways.
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When Verdigo editor Bob Shrek later asked for the brothers
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to pitch a series, they developed this idea into Day Tripper.
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Bobby o'moon explains that although the story features many deaths,
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death makes us think about life. Ultimately, we wanted to
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tell a story about one man's life. One striking aspect
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of this book is its nonlinear structure, and the chapters
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are not told in chronological order. For instance, one issue
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finds brost at age thirty two, and then the next
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flashes back to age twenty one. Another later jumps to
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his old age. This unstuck in time approach was very
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deliberate reading this monthly.
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This was ten monthly issues, cause you imagine every issue
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you pick it up, like, well, where's the story going?
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And he's at a different age, at different point in
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his life. It's weirdly, it's so funny.
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Each cover of every issue had a quote from somebody
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kind of famous or attached to the literary world praising
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what was going on, And I was like, what the
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hell's going on? I'm trying to figure out what do
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they know that I don't, And obviously the big thing
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is it's kind of like the hook. But then you
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start to realize as you get to issues three and four,
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this is going to continue to happen to this guy.
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But where do we end? What's going to how's this
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thing going down? I think that was really as I
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was reading this what made me stay invested, like, yeah, okay,
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are we going to get an answer as to what's
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going on here or I.
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Want to see where it was going. Once I got
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I was hip to the jive that he dies at
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the end of every chapter, but it's a symbolic death.
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I was like, Okay, so what's the big reveal here,
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because like with the many deaths of Layl the Stars,
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she goes on her journey.
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Yeah, you know, he's learning something each time, and she's
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keeping that this is not happening with this guy. He
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isn't continually keeping continuity in his head as to what
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happened before. It's brand new for him.
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It definitely made me think about how well I want
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to get tremendsly personal. But I feel like after the fact,
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I kind of related to the concept of this book
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of feeling like you died in a certain place. Your
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physical body, your life may have continued on, like I
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am chronologically forty nine, but I definitely feel like there
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are a point in my life where the me who
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was living at that time died a very real death
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and I became a very different person after that. And
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that's all I'm gonna say about it, because it will
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end up being and another hour of Marx therapy. Session,
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and I just did a whole TikTok on emotional vomiting.
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And I don't want to do that to you, Jesse.
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I have been told your kink is not when I
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vomit all over you emotionally.
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So it's interesting you say that because I actually wrote
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that down in one.
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Of my notes. Emotional vomiting is not.
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Yes, I said, emotional vomiting, and it says, as for Mark,
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don't engage. I wrote down here that it was very
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much a situation where there is a loss of something
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or or you're just moving on. It's a different chapter
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in this guy's case, each chapter that hits. He dies
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at the end of every single one of these when
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these chapters hit, and when the new chapter, when the
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new page is turned, it's not.
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Even like a spiritual death. And when he gets stabbed
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to death on a beach, another one he gets run
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over away a truck.
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Literal death is what happens to this dude.
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It's implied as a child he grabbed an electric cord. Yeah,
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these are very real, painful, physical deaths. It isn't like
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she broke my heart and I died that day. It's
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like she broke my heart and dropped a piano on.
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My head, anything you want to get off your chest
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before we jump into the summary and questions on our
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first three issues.
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I think before we start talking about this, you take
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whatever I throw at you and be like, all right, well,
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you know you'll talk with so I'm not I know
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I'm not going to get a lot if I ask you, like, oh,
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what did you think about me making you read this book?
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But I am curious between me telling you this is
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what we're doing and you're going through the act of
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reading it and making notes on it. Did you have
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any reflections as far as the kinds of comics you
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like versus the kinds you don't like? And where this landed?
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Did you picture Jesse just like, can he ever pick
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a Booster Gold comic? That is not me? That is
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not me? Thank God, I have unspoken issues and I
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get a break from Mark's weirdo comic collection.
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No, that's not me. I enjoy books like this for sure.
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Vertigo books are great. If you start looking at some
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of the stuff that came out in Vertigo, they're not
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beholden to the D because Virtigo is an imprint of DC.
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They have the ability to do whatever they want with
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their books. They can tell we're not going to have
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Superman showing up and interacting with our main character here.
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That's not something that happens because these storytellers are there
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to tell a story that isn't going to be behold
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in the DC continuity. So I really appreciate some of
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the stuff that Vertigo does because not only do they
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push them, but a lot of times they have great
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storytellers involved in a lot of the books they put
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out to take.
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The comic book medium and divorce it from its traditions
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and origins. This could have very easily been a novel,
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a short story, could have very easily been a movie,
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could have very easily been a television show. Yeah, they
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it was the Walks of Life that got them to
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do this story as a comic book. But like that,
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I guess that's my point. This is one of those
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that didn't have to be a comic could be anything, right.
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And the other thing I'll say is that, like I said,
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I had heard some buzz about this book, I didn't
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know what it was. In my reading ventures, I think
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I would have actually landed on this and picked it
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up and read it myself without being prompted by you,
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so again, it gives me the opportunity to dive into
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something that I've really wanted to check out.
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The last thing I'm going to say before I give
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you back your show and stop taking it hostage is
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I didn't know anything about it. But between the title,
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the cover art, the fact that chat GPT was associating
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it with the Crow, and the ninth the Layla Star,
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I thought it was going to be more ethereal. Okay,
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I've never dropped acid, but when you drop acid, you're
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tripping out or you're tripping balls. And the book is
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called day Tripper, so I'm expecting this to be psychedelic ethereal.
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I expected to get on here and be like, I
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loved it. I don't understand a word of what I
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read right right, but this has kind a very clear
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narrative to it. It's nonlinear. Robert would be like, you
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hate it, don't you when he's beating me with a sock,
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and it's the sock you hate nonlinear storytelling, tell the truth,
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Why how did we get here? But I was not
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expecting it to be this concrete, this straightforward, based on again,
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like the Crow is kind of a weirdo story that
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deals with magic. Laylo Star dealt with magic. There's no
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magic in this book.
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No, And just like you said, when you look at
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the covers of these issues and the art that's in
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the book, some of it is you know, the covers
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definitely make you think like, oh, there could be some
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weirdness going on here, but really.
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Water colors illicit dreaminess, Yeah, state of an ethereal state
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of mind. I don't get high, but when I think
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about the way it's presented, and then you actually read
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the book, you're like, oh, I don't want to get
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high and read this, I'll get afraid someone was gonna
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stand me on the beach or some shit.
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Yeah, last thing I need to do is start tripping
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and then read a story where the guy dies over
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and over and.
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You were dead. You turn to the fucking step brothers.
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You were dead. That's all you die.
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Let's get into our summary of our first three issues here.
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So our first story opens with Bross. He's a thirty
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two year old abituary writer who dreams of being a
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novelist but feels overshadowed by his famous father. We follow
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him through the money Dane rhythm of his day walking
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his dog, fielding calls from his mother and wife, bantering
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with his friend Jorge in dreading, which, by the way,
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when I was in Spanish class, that was my name.
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I was Jorge.
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I've been for many years now, but I kept oscillating
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between George and Jorge.
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Okay, good enough.
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I really wish the Spanish in the Portuguese would make
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up their minds.
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Bantering with his friend Jorge and dreading the gala honoring
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his father that night, after struggling with his own writing
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and spending hours at the newspaper, he reluctantly heads out,
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but a detour for cigarettes takes him to a modest bar.
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There he connects briefly with the bartender, Genarino, who Generino
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over their shared experience of living in their father's shadows.
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The night turns tragic when Generino's nephew, Joka Yoka, storms in,
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desperate and armed, and a burst of violence, Yoka kills
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his uncle, then Bras. The issue closes with an obituary
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style reflection. Brass die on his birthday, age thirty two,
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his life cut short as if it were just beginning,
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And then we get into the second issue. Bross Is
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twenty one traveling with Jorge through Salvador, He's restless, searching
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for freedom, beauty, and direction, while Jorge is more grounded.
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Bross soon meets Olinda, a striking enematic woman, and their
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conversations about love, identity, and the pace of life stirs
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something new in him. Drawn to her, he follows her
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through markets to a beach side ritual, honoring iimnha, i'manya Amanya.
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There we go, Yeamanya come that shows up later and
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the goddess of the speed. Their connection grows quickly, culminating
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in a night together. Bross feels caught up in possibility,
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as though he assembled uprown love and destiny all at once.
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Yet the morning brings loss as he follows a priest
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to a boat that heads into the sea. Bros himself drowns,
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claimed by the waters in a cruel twist. The chapter
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ends with the reminder that he was only twenty one,
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full of potential that would never be realized, and the
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third issue shifts again, this time to Bros at twenty eight.
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So yeah, as you can see, folks, if you didn't
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catch on the last issue where he died at twenty one,
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but he died in thirty eight in the first issue.
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Now he's at twenty eight. We find him reeling from
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the collapse of a long relationship with Olinda, whose bitter
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parting words still echo in his head. He lives alone,
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smoking and drinking, haunted by the life he thought they
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would share. His father advises him to pursue unforgettable moments
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and not settle for mediocrity, but Bros struggles with emptiness.
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Jorge tries to cheer him, even jokingly writing an obituary
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for Bross as if heartbreak had killed him nothing. I
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think that's where it clicked for me. I guess I
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had to have it spelled out, like, oh, okay, this
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is kind of what we're doing here. But nothing can
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shake the lingering weight of failure. Then, in a moment
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of chance, Bros encounters a stranger in a bakery, a
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woman whose beauty and presence instantly ignite hope. For the
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first time in ages, he feels alive, certain, and this
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is the beginning of something new. Bross runs back to
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seize the chance, his heart surging with joy, but fate
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intrudes once more. A delivery truck slams into him before
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he can return to her, ending his life at twenty eight.
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His obituary reflects a man who was searching for love
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in the desert of modern life, cut down just as
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he rediscovered his promise. So there's our first three issues.
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I'll go ahead and start with mine for our first issue.
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Here and our first issue, he's upset.
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It took me a while.
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I think I actually had to read the issue twice
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to realize that he was upset that his parents didn't
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remember his birthday because his dad was getting honored that night.
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His dad didn't wish him a happy birthday, his mom
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didn't wish him a happy birthday, and the whole issue,
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you know it's his birthday, or hey remembers and writes
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a beautiful note on the inside of the birthday card.
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It spoke to me, and I think it spoke to
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me today because of some of the horrible events are
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happening in our world. But here, let me read this
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to you. The young open the paper to forget about
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life by reading the funny strips. The old do it
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to forget about death by reading other people's oh bits.
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My advice, don't open the paper and go on with
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your life. What do you think?
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Head in the sand huh.
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Don't open the paper, don't open the phone, stay off
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of Facebook, stop scrolling TikTok I.
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There's some good stuff here in these first three issues.
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That first scene in the bar makes a great opening
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to a movie. How did I get to this place
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where I'm in a bar on the night this guy's
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nephew freaked out shoots the bartender who is his uncle,
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and his uncle yeah, and just you know, and and
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runs off with the money because he's desperate. Like you know,
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the book treats death as this unavoidable entity. But just
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because death comes for us all does not mean death
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has the same reactions. People treat death differently. Some people
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live every day like it's their least. Some people try
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to avoid death, you know, like I'm gonna take care
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of myself. I'm gonna exercise, I'm gonna eat leafy greens.
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You know, I'm gonna do all the things. But then
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it's funny, like give about the Dennis Leary line about
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you know, the jogging guy. I don't remember it was
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Jacqueline or somebody else, but like here wrote a jogging
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book and this is you know, when he fucking died
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when he was jogging that's when like, you do all
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the right it is the ultimate. You do all the
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right things, but nobody avoids death. So I don't know, Man,
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you spend as much time sorting through social media as
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I do, especially on the AI technology side. Every third
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post is we're this close to defeating death.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I do think. And it's funny because this is a
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comic book podcast after all. And I referenced your affection
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for traditional superhero comics. How often Marvel dealt with that
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sort of thing where they treated death as another character,
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Like literally with Thanos Tantas is like I worship death.
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I love death, and death is portrayed as an actual woman.
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And I've made I've made the jokes before about death
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as modern woman. It's like that was like, I'll do
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anything to please you. You can't do enough. I assure you.
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I will never be satisfied thinking about death, Galactus, some
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of the other cosmic beings as natural forces of the universe.
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If you remember the trial of Read Richard, he got
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put on trial by all the cosmic beings and alien races,
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was that he had defeated Galactus. He had called he
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had caused Galactus to not be able to feed anymore.
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They were like, you can't do that. Galactus is a
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natural force of the universe. There must be birth, life, decay, death, rebirth.
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That's the cycle. If you break the cycle, you break
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the universe. I feel like in its own way, Day
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Tripper is trying to speak to that without getting into
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weirdo cosmic beings that regardless of what decisions this guy makes,
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no matter where he puts himself, it's like final destination.
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You cannot outrun death. Yeah, those first three issues. One
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of the things that becomes very apparent, almost to the
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point of being repetitive by the time you get to
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the end of the book is how we all have
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such a tenuous grasp of life. Some of us celebrate it,
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some of us waste it. Sometimes you start out celebrating
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it and then end up wasting it because it can
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be cruel and unfair. I think it's the second or
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third issue where he meets the chick from El Salvador.
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Can I talk about this for a second? Oh, a
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kind of getting away from the death thing. The best
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thing about this book is these guys seem to really
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have a grasp of human behavior in a way that
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I don't necessarily always see in a comic book him
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meaning this wonderfully bizarre woman, just this absolute fucking goddess
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sent from heaven to take him on a trip of
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the life. Fantastic. And seven years later she's like, I'm bored,
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you're boring. Your job sucks. Why aren't you home more often?
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I hate this life, I hate this apartment, I hate you.
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I'm packing up bag and I'm wandering into the street
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and I'm reading this and I'm just like, I may
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have to put this book down.
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My first note on that third issue is like, what
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did he do?
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He committed the ultimate sin, the original sin. He was
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a dude with a job. That's what he did, Jessie.
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By the end of issue twenty one, he meets Olnda,
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wondering if a relationship can happen, and then he dies
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at the end of that and right now we get
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the part of the story where he's met her, and
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then seven years later, on his twenty eighth we see
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that they did have a life together. It opens up
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with her going, you're a piece of shit.
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I didn't want this life. He's like, you didn't want
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any life. He was like, I wanted to be something special.
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He's like, who the fuck stopped you? And I'm just
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sitting there like, did y'all take this from my fucking life? Yeah?
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I got up for a little while and like put
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the books down.
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Yeah that was pretty rough. We watch him go through that,
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and then that was my first question with what did
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he do to elicilate what's so wrong? And one of
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the things I remember her saying was I didn't come
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here to be a housewife, right, And so I don't
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know what she was expecting, but obviously for.
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Him to solve all her problems and for her to
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always be happy.
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Yeah, always got the sense that Brass was somebody that
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was always concerned about having a career. He was always
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concerned about.
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You know, I mean, like money to pay for stuff.
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To make a living. But back when he was twenty one,
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and you and I both can actually kind of relate.
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When you were twenty one, you know, there was that
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sense of like, oh, there's so much lying ahead of me.
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Yeah, you know, I had hope and dreams and lighten
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my eyes right right.
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Unfortunately, Yeah, just like you said, seven years later, we
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have responsibilities. We have to make the rent, we have
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to pay for the utilities. Unfortunately, that free spirit can't
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continue in ourselves. And I guess maybe that's what she
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kind of represents for him, is his free spirit embodied
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by Olinda walking out the door. He is committed to
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being a dude, just like you said, being a productive
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member of society.
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Well, it's funny, you know, a theme of this book
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being life, death, resurrection. When she leaves, a part of
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him dies, and it's the part of him that he's like,
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he's saying good by to youthful indiscretions. Like at some
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point those of us who embrace adulthood realize that the
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party is over. Sure, we have moments of levity, but
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especially if you start families and stuff, you have to
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put away childish things. It's actually funny. Part of the
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reason why I love doing this podcast with you is
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because I never know reisurrection is going to go, and
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I never get worried we don't have enough material. But
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for example, I read a book I just did a
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TikTok on it. It's part of Ratalitch University Now Rejuvenation,
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and it was talking about how the change from like
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one hundred to one hundred and fifty years ago is
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very quickly in a man's life, you had to become
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an adult. And becoming an adult is putting away childish things
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and taking on all the responsibilities of running a farm,
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running a home, earning money, taking care of your family.
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And then the second half of the twentieth century comes
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along and America is given to get of leisure. Suddenly
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kids are told you can stay kids for a while.
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In fact, we're encouraging you to stay kids for a while.
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And then you multiply that out two or three generations
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and look at our peer group. You know how many
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of us collect Funko pops and action figures and comic
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books that are really meant for children. We hang on
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to the stuff of our youth well into adulthood. There
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are adults who really struggle with that. They struggle with
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the concept of I have to essentially be I have
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to eventually become an adult where I'm allowed some light leisure,
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but for the most part I have to be a
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serious person. And can't do it. They can't make the leap.
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So here's him doing the good work of trying, and
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there's a Linda saying this is a sin, this is
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terrible what you're doing. This is abuse, this is neglect,
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this is all the bad things, and it's like, this
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is being an adult. That's what this is.
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To tie that in with, I mean, I've done a
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lot lot of like thought on what you're talking about,
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because you know, I here, I am forty seven years
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old and I still collect comes. Why do I really
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enjoy looking at these action figures? I believe, and I
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am a very nostalgic guy. I always love the eighties.
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A lot of what I think goes into that is freedom.
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Back then, as a child, you had the freedom to
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do these things without having to worry about all of that.
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So every day I wake up and scan TikTok lives,
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and every day when people should be working, I just
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see people hanging out on TikTok Live. These motherfuckers who
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are spending work hours fishing on TikTok life, and they're
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like my eight or younger. I'm like, I want to
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sink your boat. I want to play a real game
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of battleship and think your boat. I've chained my desk,
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you know, getting emotionally vomited on for nine hours at
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a time. That's my kink, I guess. And then these
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people on TikTok life all the time in the world
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to fit there and just rule all of them sellable.
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People watch for no good reason, and I'm like, why.
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Yeah, I mean, at the end of issue three, I
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need to get this out before we move on because
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I'm going to forget. It would be a great wrap
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up thought if I would have thought about it before
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we started the show. But as I said earlier, it
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seems like each time that he's dying is right on
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the precipice of something that he's figured out this story
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as a whole. I think what they are trying to say,
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as tragic as this is, this happens in your lifetime
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multiple times. They're trying to show here that he's had
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ten great moments and they were taken away from him
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by death. You need to understand that your life has
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these moments and appreciate the fact that you're alive and
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sees the day. All Right, enough of.
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That, Thanks for joining us. All of this would not
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Good times around.
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We'll here you real slap and Billy take time down.
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We're here too, sac the storm.
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He's in a yard material fat walk off walk. It's
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time for game Chicken.
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Bare that sounds tasty.
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Howard Stern took the melody of Day Tripper by the Beatles, okay,
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and he would play a game on The Howard Stern
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Show called gay Chicken, which I know you've played before.
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I remember when, remember when we were watching Rage against
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the Machine and we were waiting, you know, it was
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in between sets and we were waiting for Rais against
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the Machine came out. I'm like, hey, Jesse, you want
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to play a game? You know, you like try to play.
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You try to get me to play Marble Snap. But
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I'm like, put that away. How about you me an
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arousing game of gay Chicken?
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Okay?
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Do you remember that?
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I do not remember that at all.
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It's time forget Chicken. Oh boy, day.
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Trip I love it. My goodness, Mark Ratleics, you've done
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it again.
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This is another fine mess. You've gotten this into Rattlage.
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Well here's the thing. So yes, we're gonna be talking
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about Day Tripper to night. We're going to be talking
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about Gay Chicken. Remember a twenty ten comic book came
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out from Vertigo, and I had heard about this book.
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I didn't know anything about it other than I just
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heard it was good.
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Yeah, So this is where for a while it was
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on a bunch of reading lists. If you walk into
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Barnes and Nobles, it was on an end cap or
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a featured comic book. They pushed this comic pretty hard,
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especially when it came out as a trade.
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So I think maybe i'd heard about it from another podcast.
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I'm assuming this was a mark shelf deal here, and
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this was sitting on your shelf.
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So actually this is because of The Crow. Remember that's right.
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I wanted to do The Crow, and I went to
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Fancy and it's like, find you books like the Crow
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we haven't already done. And it suggested Day Tripper and
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the many deaths of Layla's Star. And then after Darth Vader,
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you were like, please stop trying to review fifty comics
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in one show. So we moved Day Tripper to its
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own episode.
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Okay, and this definitely feels like that was part of
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that trilogy. When you compare this, it definitely reminds me
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of many deaths.
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That's what it was like. It took like death and
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resurrection from Crow and was like run with that. Yeah
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that's how Day Tripper and many deaths of Laylis Star
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all got roped in there.
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Yeah all right, I want to read it all.
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Something.
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I had our buddy chat GPT do some deep research and.
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You hand on my inner thigh, give a big squeeze
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and read to me.
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Here we go, like I said, Tennis U comic book
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limited series. This is created by Brazilian twin brothers Fabio
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Moon and Gabriel Bah. The story follows Brass Domingos.
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Spanish is delectable.
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Thank you very much. I took two years of it
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in high school.
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Your Portuguese.
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I'll roll my rs just like I was saying hide
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in Italia.
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Listen if you can't, if you can't roll your eyes,
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you can always give him the old popeye.
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I give the h an aspiring novelist who writes newspaper
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obituaries for a living. Each issue of Day Tripper depicts
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an important day in Bross's life, be it a personal milestone, reunion,
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or turning point, and ends with Bross's death in an
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alternate reality. These repeated deaths are not literal continuity, but
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a narrative device. With each chapter, that comic explores what
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is the meaning of life by showing fucking.
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Tries to figure that out? And I had to go
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to chat ept. But why does he keep dying?
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Yeah, this dude keeps dying? What is going on here?
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I'm waiting for the big reveal at the end and
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lo and behold it's that does not happen. There's not
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like some of why this is occurring. This is just
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a narrative. Use narrative here, so it shows how even
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ordinary days can become profound and retrospect. To cross the series,
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Bros experiences love, friendship, family, success, and loss, living many
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possible lifetimes, only to die at the end of each scenario.
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Despite its morbid premise, Day Tripper is ultimately a hopeful
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meditation on life, highlighting the beauty in everyday moments and
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the legacy we leave behind. At its core, Day Trippers
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about life, death, and the value of each day. Moon
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and Bah, whose death is a narrative hook, bross many
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deaths to illuminate the preciousness of life. As one reviewer noted,
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make no mistake, Day Tripper is the celebration of life.
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Death in this book is merely a device to drive
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home the message of seizing the day garpe DM because
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it could be your last. Each chapter highlights a defining
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moment in Bros's life, his first kiss, reunion with an
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old friend, the birth of this child, the loss of
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a parent, emphasizing that these pivotal experiences shape who we are.
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By showing Bros At different ages, the story asks the
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reader to consider which moments truly matter in a person's journey.
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The origin of the concept came from a sudden insight
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by Gabriel, who recalls thinking of how a lost bullet
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could cross his window and kill him out of the blue,
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and just like that, what would be his life up
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until that point? What does death mean in our lives?
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This more of a thought sparked the idea of a
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character who lives many lives and dies repeatedly in different ways.
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When Verdigo editor Bob Shrek later asked for the brothers
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to pitch a series, they developed this idea into Day Tripper.
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Bobby o'moon explains that although the story features many deaths,
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death makes us think about life. Ultimately, we wanted to
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tell a story about one man's life. One striking aspect
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of this book is its nonlinear structure, and the chapters
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are not told in chronological order. For instance, one issue
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finds brost at age thirty two, and then the next
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flashes back to age twenty one. Another later jumps to
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his old age. This unstuck in time approach was very
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deliberate reading this monthly.
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This was ten monthly issues, cause you imagine every issue
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you pick it up, like, well, where's the story going?
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And he's at a different age, at different point in
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his life. It's weirdly, it's so funny.
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Each cover of every issue had a quote from somebody
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kind of famous or attached to the literary world praising
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what was going on, And I was like, what the
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hell's going on? I'm trying to figure out what do
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they know that I don't, And obviously the big thing
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is it's kind of like the hook. But then you
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start to realize as you get to issues three and four,
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this is going to continue to happen to this guy.
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But where do we end? What's going to how's this
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thing going down? I think that was really as I
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was reading this what made me stay invested, like, yeah, okay,
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are we going to get an answer as to what's
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going on here or I.
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Want to see where it was going. Once I got
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I was hip to the jive that he dies at
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the end of every chapter, but it's a symbolic death.
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I was like, Okay, so what's the big reveal here,
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because like with the many deaths of Layl the Stars,
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she goes on her journey.
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Yeah, you know, he's learning something each time, and she's
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keeping that this is not happening with this guy. He
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isn't continually keeping continuity in his head as to what
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happened before. It's brand new for him.
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It definitely made me think about how well I want
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to get tremendsly personal. But I feel like after the fact,
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I kind of related to the concept of this book
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of feeling like you died in a certain place. Your
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physical body, your life may have continued on, like I
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am chronologically forty nine, but I definitely feel like there
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are a point in my life where the me who
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was living at that time died a very real death
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and I became a very different person after that. And
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that's all I'm gonna say about it, because it will
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end up being and another hour of Marx therapy. Session,
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and I just did a whole TikTok on emotional vomiting.
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And I don't want to do that to you, Jesse.
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I have been told your kink is not when I
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vomit all over you emotionally.
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So it's interesting you say that because I actually wrote
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that down in one.
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Of my notes. Emotional vomiting is not.
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Yes, I said, emotional vomiting, and it says, as for Mark,
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don't engage. I wrote down here that it was very
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much a situation where there is a loss of something
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or or you're just moving on. It's a different chapter
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in this guy's case, each chapter that hits. He dies
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at the end of every single one of these when
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these chapters hit, and when the new chapter, when the
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new page is turned, it's not.
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Even like a spiritual death. And when he gets stabbed
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to death on a beach, another one he gets run
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over away a truck.
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Literal death is what happens to this dude.
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It's implied as a child he grabbed an electric cord. Yeah,
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these are very real, painful, physical deaths. It isn't like
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she broke my heart and I died that day. It's
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like she broke my heart and dropped a piano on.
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My head, anything you want to get off your chest
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before we jump into the summary and questions on our
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first three issues.
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I think before we start talking about this, you take
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whatever I throw at you and be like, all right, well,
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you know you'll talk with so I'm not I know
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I'm not going to get a lot if I ask you, like, oh,
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what did you think about me making you read this book?
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But I am curious between me telling you this is
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what we're doing and you're going through the act of
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reading it and making notes on it. Did you have
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any reflections as far as the kinds of comics you
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like versus the kinds you don't like? And where this landed?
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Did you picture Jesse just like, can he ever pick
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a Booster Gold comic? That is not me? That is
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not me? Thank God, I have unspoken issues and I
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get a break from Mark's weirdo comic collection.
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Vertigo books are great. If you start looking at some
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of the stuff that came out in Vertigo, they're not
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beholden to the D because Virtigo is an imprint of DC.
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They have the ability to do whatever they want with
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their books. They can tell we're not going to have
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Superman showing up and interacting with our main character here.
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That's not something that happens because these storytellers are there
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to tell a story that isn't going to be behold
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in the DC continuity. So I really appreciate some of
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the stuff that Vertigo does because not only do they
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push them, but a lot of times they have great
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storytellers involved in a lot of the books they put
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out to take.
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The comic book medium and divorce it from its traditions
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and origins. This could have very easily been a novel,
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a short story, could have very easily been a movie,
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could have very easily been a television show. Yeah, they
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it was the Walks of Life that got them to
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do this story as a comic book. But like that,
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I guess that's my point. This is one of those
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that didn't have to be a comic could be anything, right.
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And the other thing I'll say is that, like I said,
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I had heard some buzz about this book, I didn't
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know what it was. In my reading ventures, I think
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I would have actually landed on this and picked it
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up and read it myself without being prompted by you,
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so again, it gives me the opportunity to dive into
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something that I've really wanted to check out.
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The last thing I'm going to say before I give
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you back your show and stop taking it hostage is
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I didn't know anything about it. But between the title,
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the cover art, the fact that chat GPT was associating
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it with the Crow, and the ninth the Layla Star,
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I thought it was going to be more ethereal. Okay,
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I've never dropped acid, but when you drop acid, you're
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tripping out or you're tripping balls. And the book is
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called day Tripper, so I'm expecting this to be psychedelic ethereal.
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I expected to get on here and be like, I
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loved it. I don't understand a word of what I
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read right right, but this has kind a very clear
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narrative to it. It's nonlinear. Robert would be like, you
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hate it, don't you when he's beating me with a sock,
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and it's the sock you hate nonlinear storytelling, tell the truth,
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Why how did we get here? But I was not
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expecting it to be this concrete, this straightforward, based on again,
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like the Crow is kind of a weirdo story that
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deals with magic. Laylo Star dealt with magic. There's no
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magic in this book.
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No, And just like you said, when you look at
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the covers of these issues and the art that's in
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the book, some of it is you know, the covers
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definitely make you think like, oh, there could be some
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weirdness going on here, but really.
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Water colors illicit dreaminess, Yeah, state of an ethereal state
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of mind. I don't get high, but when I think
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about the way it's presented, and then you actually read
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the book, you're like, oh, I don't want to get
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high and read this, I'll get afraid someone was gonna
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stand me on the beach or some shit.
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Yeah, last thing I need to do is start tripping
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and then read a story where the guy dies over
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and over and.
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You were dead. You turn to the fucking step brothers.
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You were dead. That's all you die.
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Let's get into our summary of our first three issues here.
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So our first story opens with Bross. He's a thirty
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two year old abituary writer who dreams of being a
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novelist but feels overshadowed by his famous father. We follow
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him through the money Dane rhythm of his day walking
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his dog, fielding calls from his mother and wife, bantering
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with his friend Jorge in dreading, which, by the way,
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when I was in Spanish class, that was my name.
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I was Jorge.
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I've been for many years now, but I kept oscillating
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between George and Jorge.
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Okay, good enough.
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I really wish the Spanish in the Portuguese would make
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up their minds.
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Bantering with his friend Jorge and dreading the gala honoring
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his father that night, after struggling with his own writing
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and spending hours at the newspaper, he reluctantly heads out,
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but a detour for cigarettes takes him to a modest bar.
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There he connects briefly with the bartender, Genarino, who Generino
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over their shared experience of living in their father's shadows.
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The night turns tragic when Generino's nephew, Joka Yoka, storms in,
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desperate and armed, and a burst of violence, Yoka kills
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his uncle, then Bras. The issue closes with an obituary
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style reflection. Brass die on his birthday, age thirty two,
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his life cut short as if it were just beginning,
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And then we get into the second issue. Bross Is
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twenty one traveling with Jorge through Salvador, He's restless, searching
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for freedom, beauty, and direction, while Jorge is more grounded.
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Bross soon meets Olinda, a striking enematic woman, and their
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conversations about love, identity, and the pace of life stirs
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something new in him. Drawn to her, he follows her
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through markets to a beach side ritual, honoring iimnha, i'manya Amanya.
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There we go, Yeamanya come that shows up later and
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the goddess of the speed. Their connection grows quickly, culminating
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in a night together. Bross feels caught up in possibility,
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as though he assembled uprown love and destiny all at once.
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Yet the morning brings loss as he follows a priest
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to a boat that heads into the sea. Bros himself drowns,
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claimed by the waters in a cruel twist. The chapter
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ends with the reminder that he was only twenty one,
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full of potential that would never be realized, and the
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third issue shifts again, this time to Bros at twenty eight.
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So yeah, as you can see, folks, if you didn't
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catch on the last issue where he died at twenty one,
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but he died in thirty eight in the first issue.
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Now he's at twenty eight. We find him reeling from
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the collapse of a long relationship with Olinda, whose bitter
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parting words still echo in his head. He lives alone,
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smoking and drinking, haunted by the life he thought they
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would share. His father advises him to pursue unforgettable moments
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and not settle for mediocrity, but Bros struggles with emptiness.
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Jorge tries to cheer him, even jokingly writing an obituary
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for Bross as if heartbreak had killed him nothing. I
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think that's where it clicked for me. I guess I
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had to have it spelled out, like, oh, okay, this
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is kind of what we're doing here. But nothing can
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shake the lingering weight of failure. Then, in a moment
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of chance, Bros encounters a stranger in a bakery, a
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woman whose beauty and presence instantly ignite hope. For the
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first time in ages, he feels alive, certain, and this
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is the beginning of something new. Bross runs back to
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seize the chance, his heart surging with joy, but fate
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intrudes once more. A delivery truck slams into him before
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he can return to her, ending his life at twenty eight.
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His obituary reflects a man who was searching for love
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in the desert of modern life, cut down just as
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he rediscovered his promise. So there's our first three issues.
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I'll go ahead and start with mine for our first issue.
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Here and our first issue, he's upset.
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It took me a while.
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I think I actually had to read the issue twice
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to realize that he was upset that his parents didn't
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remember his birthday because his dad was getting honored that night.
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His dad didn't wish him a happy birthday, his mom
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didn't wish him a happy birthday, and the whole issue,
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you know it's his birthday, or hey remembers and writes
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a beautiful note on the inside of the birthday card.
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It spoke to me, and I think it spoke to
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me today because of some of the horrible events are
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happening in our world. But here, let me read this
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to you. The young open the paper to forget about
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life by reading the funny strips. The old do it
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to forget about death by reading other people's oh bits.
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My advice, don't open the paper and go on with
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your life. What do you think?
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Head in the sand huh.
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Don't open the paper, don't open the phone, stay off
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of Facebook, stop scrolling TikTok I.
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There's some good stuff here in these first three issues.
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That first scene in the bar makes a great opening
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to a movie. How did I get to this place
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where I'm in a bar on the night this guy's
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nephew freaked out shoots the bartender who is his uncle,
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and his uncle yeah, and just you know, and and
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runs off with the money because he's desperate. Like you know,
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the book treats death as this unavoidable entity. But just
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because death comes for us all does not mean death
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has the same reactions. People treat death differently. Some people
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live every day like it's their least. Some people try
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to avoid death, you know, like I'm gonna take care
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of myself. I'm gonna exercise, I'm gonna eat leafy greens.
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You know, I'm gonna do all the things. But then
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it's funny, like give about the Dennis Leary line about
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you know, the jogging guy. I don't remember it was
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Jacqueline or somebody else, but like here wrote a jogging
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book and this is you know, when he fucking died
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when he was jogging that's when like, you do all
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the right it is the ultimate. You do all the
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right things, but nobody avoids death. So I don't know, Man,
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you spend as much time sorting through social media as
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I do, especially on the AI technology side. Every third
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post is we're this close to defeating death.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I do think. And it's funny because this is a
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comic book podcast after all. And I referenced your affection
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for traditional superhero comics. How often Marvel dealt with that
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sort of thing where they treated death as another character,
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Like literally with Thanos Tantas is like I worship death.
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I love death, and death is portrayed as an actual woman.
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And I've made I've made the jokes before about death
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as modern woman. It's like that was like, I'll do
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anything to please you. You can't do enough. I assure you.
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I will never be satisfied thinking about death, Galactus, some
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of the other cosmic beings as natural forces of the universe.
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If you remember the trial of Read Richard, he got
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put on trial by all the cosmic beings and alien races,
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was that he had defeated Galactus. He had called he
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had caused Galactus to not be able to feed anymore.
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They were like, you can't do that. Galactus is a
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natural force of the universe. There must be birth, life, decay, death, rebirth.
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That's the cycle. If you break the cycle, you break
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the universe. I feel like in its own way, Day
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Tripper is trying to speak to that without getting into
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weirdo cosmic beings that regardless of what decisions this guy makes,
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no matter where he puts himself, it's like final destination.
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You cannot outrun death. Yeah, those first three issues. One
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of the things that becomes very apparent, almost to the
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point of being repetitive by the time you get to
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the end of the book is how we all have
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such a tenuous grasp of life. Some of us celebrate it,
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some of us waste it. Sometimes you start out celebrating
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it and then end up wasting it because it can
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be cruel and unfair. I think it's the second or
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third issue where he meets the chick from El Salvador.
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Can I talk about this for a second? Oh, a
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kind of getting away from the death thing. The best
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thing about this book is these guys seem to really
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have a grasp of human behavior in a way that
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I don't necessarily always see in a comic book him
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meaning this wonderfully bizarre woman, just this absolute fucking goddess
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sent from heaven to take him on a trip of
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the life. Fantastic. And seven years later she's like, I'm bored,
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you're boring. Your job sucks. Why aren't you home more often?
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I hate this life, I hate this apartment, I hate you.
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I'm packing up bag and I'm wandering into the street
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and I'm reading this and I'm just like, I may
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have to put this book down.
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My first note on that third issue is like, what
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did he do?
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He committed the ultimate sin, the original sin. He was
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a dude with a job. That's what he did, Jessie.
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By the end of issue twenty one, he meets Olnda,
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wondering if a relationship can happen, and then he dies
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at the end of that and right now we get
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the part of the story where he's met her, and
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then seven years later, on his twenty eighth we see
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that they did have a life together. It opens up
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with her going, you're a piece of shit.
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I didn't want this life. He's like, you didn't want
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any life. He was like, I wanted to be something special.
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He's like, who the fuck stopped you? And I'm just
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sitting there like, did y'all take this from my fucking life? Yeah?
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I got up for a little while and like put
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the books down.
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Yeah that was pretty rough. We watch him go through that,
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and then that was my first question with what did
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he do to elicilate what's so wrong? And one of
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the things I remember her saying was I didn't come
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here to be a housewife, right, And so I don't
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know what she was expecting, but obviously for.
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Him to solve all her problems and for her to
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always be happy.
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Yeah, always got the sense that Brass was somebody that
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was always concerned about having a career. He was always
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concerned about.
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You know, I mean, like money to pay for stuff.
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To make a living. But back when he was twenty one,
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and you and I both can actually kind of relate.
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When you were twenty one, you know, there was that
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sense of like, oh, there's so much lying ahead of me.
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Yeah, you know, I had hope and dreams and lighten
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my eyes right right.
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Unfortunately, Yeah, just like you said, seven years later, we
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have responsibilities. We have to make the rent, we have
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to pay for the utilities. Unfortunately, that free spirit can't
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continue in ourselves. And I guess maybe that's what she
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kind of represents for him, is his free spirit embodied
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by Olinda walking out the door. He is committed to
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being a dude, just like you said, being a productive
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member of society.
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Well, it's funny, you know, a theme of this book
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being life, death, resurrection. When she leaves, a part of
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him dies, and it's the part of him that he's like,
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he's saying good by to youthful indiscretions. Like at some
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point those of us who embrace adulthood realize that the
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party is over. Sure, we have moments of levity, but
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especially if you start families and stuff, you have to
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put away childish things. It's actually funny. Part of the
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reason why I love doing this podcast with you is
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because I never know reisurrection is going to go, and
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I never get worried we don't have enough material. But
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for example, I read a book I just did a
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TikTok on it. It's part of Ratalitch University Now Rejuvenation,
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and it was talking about how the change from like
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one hundred to one hundred and fifty years ago is
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very quickly in a man's life, you had to become
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an adult. And becoming an adult is putting away childish things
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and taking on all the responsibilities of running a farm,
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running a home, earning money, taking care of your family.
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And then the second half of the twentieth century comes
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along and America is given to get of leisure. Suddenly
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kids are told you can stay kids for a while.
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In fact, we're encouraging you to stay kids for a while.
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And then you multiply that out two or three generations
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and look at our peer group. You know how many
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of us collect Funko pops and action figures and comic
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books that are really meant for children. We hang on
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to the stuff of our youth well into adulthood. There
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are adults who really struggle with that. They struggle with
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the concept of I have to essentially be I have
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to eventually become an adult where I'm allowed some light leisure,
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but for the most part I have to be a
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serious person. And can't do it. They can't make the leap.
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So here's him doing the good work of trying, and
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there's a Linda saying this is a sin, this is
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terrible what you're doing. This is abuse, this is neglect,
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this is all the bad things, and it's like, this
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is being an adult. That's what this is.
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To tie that in with, I mean, I've done a
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lot lot of like thought on what you're talking about,
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because you know, I here, I am forty seven years
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old and I still collect comes. Why do I really
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enjoy looking at these action figures? I believe, and I
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am a very nostalgic guy. I always love the eighties.
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A lot of what I think goes into that is freedom.
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Back then, as a child, you had the freedom to
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do these things without having to worry about all of that.
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So every day I wake up and scan TikTok lives,
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and every day when people should be working, I just
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see people hanging out on TikTok Live. These motherfuckers who
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are spending work hours fishing on TikTok life, and they're
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like my eight or younger. I'm like, I want to
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sink your boat. I want to play a real game
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of battleship and think your boat. I've chained my desk,
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you know, getting emotionally vomited on for nine hours at
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a time. That's my kink, I guess. And then these
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people on TikTok life all the time in the world
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to fit there and just rule all of them sellable.
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People watch for no good reason, and I'm like, why.
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Yeah, I mean, at the end of issue three, I
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need to get this out before we move on because
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I'm going to forget. It would be a great wrap
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up thought if I would have thought about it before
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we started the show. But as I said earlier, it
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seems like each time that he's dying is right on
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the precipice of something that he's figured out this story
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as a whole. I think what they are trying to say,
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as tragic as this is, this happens in your lifetime
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multiple times. They're trying to show here that he's had
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ten great moments and they were taken away from him
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by death. You need to understand that your life has
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these moments and appreciate the fact that you're alive and
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sees the day. All Right, enough of.
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That, Thanks for joining us. All of this would not
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