Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay at home, boyfriend, So.
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Speaker 2: You gotta do this.
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Speaker 1: You are, yeah, I am. Oh you got her? Report it? No she rich, she was rich.
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Speaker 3: You seen this new?
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Speaker 2: Ai Jesus, did you just say in front of them big sisters that you getting married? You get married because you're Oh, no.
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Speaker 4: Competition with your partner, bro, that's like, hell, that's hell.
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Speaker 1: Hell if we both are earning what we earned, let's just set fifty fifty.
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Speaker 2: And not like having a wife and not like having a woman at home. You don't want to be out here free being able to do what you want to do.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the shop.
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Speaker 1: I'm one of your host stolen ste Lo Brim and I am Travis Socker. And today we have two very special guests. We have Country Way.
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Speaker 3: And Keep Powers.
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Speaker 2: What's honey, y'all?
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Speaker 1: And it's a lot of shit we got going on in our lives right now. It's a lot to talk about it. I feel like more than usual.
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Speaker 3: It's canceling, Like I'm not being funny? Is it gone? Who counseled? So I'm like I don't be hearing about them, like getting canceled them.
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Speaker 5: But that was the thing for like a good two years everybody's get and then they was like, we did it.
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Speaker 2: I definitely supposed to be counseled. I I'm from the South, so they think I just don't know.
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Speaker 5: But you also control You control your platform, which is very strong that people would argue that there are some podcasts and people who's supposed to be canceled, but if you own your platform, they can't necessarily cancel.
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Speaker 2: Nah.
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Speaker 1: If you created the like your your fan base, you constructed this group of people that follow you.
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Speaker 2: Regardless of what's being counseled anyway, because everybody still working. Yeah, the people that's working complaining, So I probably won't even want to work over there. It's like I'm trying to figure out who's counseling.
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Speaker 1: But I think is there's no way to really like discipline somebody. You can publicly just shame them. And that's you know, that's interesting, and I guess who I means what I mean by that. What I mean by that is like not a like you can go still live your life. It's not like somebody is like in shame hiding from the world because they said some fucked up shit or whatever. Everybody It's like, yo, there's plenty in the sixth that the maybe people said crazy things on the Internet because at the time nobody thought the Internet would live on forever. You on you're sixty years old on Twitter sayings some crazy shit, bro who gairs because you're a sixty year old, and then when you turn thirty five, somebody like he said this twenty years ago.
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Speaker 2: It's like, I think, I think you can only get counseled if you already in the system. Like, if you already in the system so strong and you depend on it, it's like they can punish you, but you ain't about the system. You don't even feel the lick. You could be canceled and not even not even though you counseled. So I think if you already in the system strong, that's when you feel it. But I think people who came up in this new era, like I'd be like, who can counsel you?
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Speaker 5: You got to be getting white money to get canceled Number one. Yeah, A black people can't cancel us. They ain't got no power to cancel you. Like like, no, that's.
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Speaker 3: She gets true. I'm black.
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Speaker 5: You can get canceled bout white. You have to have the power to cancel. You have to have the power to stop your money. We need to be mad at niggas. We just disappointed niggas. We can't cancel you though, Nah, I don't.
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Speaker 2: Care about because to be honest, I don't care about losing. Like, who care about losing it that much? That I got to hey, man, they came nobody, but God canceled me. Man, because I lose it. It's just take the check anyway. I just tell baby mamas, you can't get so much this money because.
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Speaker 3: He be canceling yourself. I got canceled again, like we can't check.
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Speaker 2: When you came from nothing, it really don't matter that much. I'm like, man, that's true.
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Speaker 3: I mean that's true a little bit.
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Speaker 5: But part of me as a nigga, came from and I get fearful of the idea of going back to nothing.
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Speaker 3: It's so many people depend on you for.
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Speaker 5: What you got going on too, that you feel like they're not only am my I cancel nigga.
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Speaker 3: Apparently my whole family canceled too.
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Speaker 5: If I get canceled, yeah, they not getting checked no more because I got canceled.
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Speaker 2: But if you get paid checks and create like once people tap into that in them, you're never gonna think about it, cause it's like you got so many It's like, you know, we're on the shop, it's Lebron on the court. He got so many ways to score. Yeah, it's like I could pass the ball, I can I can go to the whole, you know what I mean. Or I can facilitate get in your mind. There's so many ways you really can't really stop. I think when people one dimensional, and I don't think nobody really want dimensionally they think they are. But when you really tap into yourself, you're like, bro, I'm finna go start this. I got too many I don't make too many people injusty now, I'm finna go start this tiring business.
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Speaker 5: But if you're saying shit to offend those people, they gonna still make sure you cancel.
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Speaker 2: It's like Michael Vick when he the dogs, he came back, he still end up getting a hundred million dollar a country. Yeah that was.
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Speaker 3: Before canceling was out, though they would have had that.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, white people ain't playing about them dogs.
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Speaker 3: They still ain't forgive him.
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Speaker 2: They ain't playing boy, them dogs. People don't forgive. They ain't forgot this time.
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Speaker 1: It's like at that point that you do your time, and then with like, what do you supposed to do? I know, I agree, you've been disciplined. What else do you do?
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Speaker 5: I mean, he's tried to do everything, But I still think there's a big group of people predominantly white, but a big group people who look at him and they still say he's canceled. Like I just be posted this thing yesterday. You ever watched the New York City subway takes? And I reposted one that it said, I don't trust people essentially that say they like dogs more than people. I feel that way for real, I don't trust. I think that's such a normally a white take, but I think it's such a take of being like I like, when we can watch things, is humanity really happening two people and they don't get fucking moved. You can watch racism and all these things happen to people and you don't move but a moment.
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Speaker 3: A dog is like Michael bigs gotta go. And I love dogs, but you're.
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Speaker 1: Like, what, you have a dog right now?
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Speaker 2: You have a dog?
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Speaker 1: Right now?
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Speaker 3: I do you have a dog?
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Speaker 2: You have a dog?
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Speaker 1: Have y'all? Is this your first dog?
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Speaker 4: This is technically my first personal dog.
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Speaker 1: And how old is your dog?
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Speaker 3: Two years?
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Speaker 1: Okay, I had my own personal dog for eleven years. I won't say I understand what they're saying. What I will say is there is a level of like, I can't speak to this thing. I can't communicate with this thing. At the end of my dog's life, I felt like I had not done enough Bro, and it was the most painful feeling of all time. Reason I won't get another dog for a long time is because, like nigga, when I lost my dog Bro to this day, I don't think anything is sucking up that emotion, like I've never been that cooked.
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Speaker 2: I get it. Didn't do don't tell you, so he got a lot of chances to do. Most of these.
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Speaker 5: Humans have not done stuff to people personally. The dog didn't do anything to you personally listening to him though, But the dude said this. He said that he thinks that most people like and and go for that take because it's a it's a power dynamic and an actual relationship with dominion over Like you can be the worst nigga in the world, your dog will treat you like you the best.
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Speaker 3: Your dog don't fucking know you. Your dog don't know. Your dog is not a person.
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Speaker 4: I got gold.
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Speaker 3: Home. That's why my little boy here that nigga don't know you were murdered.
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Speaker 2: The dog accepted everything about you, So it's like the dog never.
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Speaker 4: Talked about the best. It's an innocence that like you get. It's such a lovable innocence that you just don't see in most humans unless they're a child.
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Speaker 3: You know what, I'm.
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Speaker 1: Sad I will say you got that same. It's like a childlike love. And then yeah, when you become an adult, think about the things you don't do as an adult because you're in fear of like being judged. You're a fear of all these other options because you overthink. Growing up. It's just about thinking. It's like critical thinking to be able to understand the world more. As a child, you don't understand ship. You're just doing everything you want to do. Who gives a fuck? You're like dancing around like a goofball. Somebody laugh. You're like, I'm entertaining. Who gives a fuck? But it's like, yeah, humans are, we're complex. While dogs I feel like just like hey, I'm just your bud.
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Speaker 2: Yeah's animal here, I'm not not gonna both.
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Speaker 4: I'm not I kind of get what you're saying too, though it's a dog.
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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not I'm not on the side of the dogs. I'm just understanding.
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Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't understand understand that. But but the dog don't got the doll don't make you whole accountability. So say we're talking right, and somebody might be like, no, you need to work on that. You're gonna black man, it's just jealous. But a dog will let you be whoever and it will never make you take account You don't.
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Speaker 1: Train your dog, your dog bite somebody. Dog bite somebody. If you don't train your dog, your dog bite somebody.
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Speaker 3: That's y'all still got in front of you.
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Speaker 2: Like I think people got dolls, don't got enough kids. I got ten kids, man, So it's like you don't eat no dogs. They leave the stuff under the bed. Anyway, you got a favorite, favorite, a favorite it depends on what week it is. It used to be like this favorite snaw depends on where we're at for real, do.
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Speaker 1: You have a most accomplished child, a most accomplished like college, or just somebody who's like set themselves up the best.
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Speaker 2: All of them. What Taylor had the best grades, you know what I'm saying. So Taylor going to college. My sons they going to college. But they all accomplished in certain type of ways. It's like when you really pay attention to it, you have hopes with each one of them. But hold up, but this one, this, hold up, but this one, that, oh, that one, that, oh, this one, this and this was. It's like, I ain't gonna lie. Man, It's I talk about it a lot, but I ain't gonna I won't talk about the good side of it. It's really dope. I just don't want to tell nobody to put the message out there. Go have a bunch of kids, but I ain't gonna lie having a lot of kids. It's like, it's hey, it's the best feeling ever because you got a bunch of people who look like you were.
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Speaker 1: You got a little army.
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Speaker 2: You got a little army like people and your kids, no matter what, they ride us like you call your kid right now, Hey, what's up. Let's make this play. Like when we started doing the content, my son was in the videos with me. It's like we with each other. So he with the program. They be like, hey, man, let me make some money because it's our money, you know what I mean. So it's like you got a bunch of business partners. You already see the play. So having kids is like man, oh everything people be searching for a lot. You really got your partner, your best friends, your business partners are all in one.
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Speaker 1: You're really a CEO of a family.
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Speaker 5: Oh yo, it's being a family, being a person that has a family.
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Speaker 3: You really see you anyway of controlling that for you? Do you feel like you like? Do you ever feel like guilt or feel like oh?
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Speaker 5: Are you able to have the same relationship with all ten kids? Do you able to give yourself an equal amount to all the kids?
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Speaker 2: I try my best, Like I moved all the mothers. What the key was? You had to take care of the mothers. I learned that when you have kids by a woman five and a half on count of hell five ever posted she post pictures, I block them. I report the picture half to half. Oh no, the half, Yeah you don't want to see that. My brain gonna go down.
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Speaker 5: But oh man, yeah, but that kid get the same love kids favorite.
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Speaker 2: Because all my kids. Now you got to think about it. All the mothers of my kids. I moved close by, got them a house. I pay them every month, so I took care of them. And once I took care of the mothers, that's when it became, by y'all.
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Speaker 3: The half house. A little further.
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Speaker 2: No, I got custody of that child. I went to court and got her.
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Speaker 3: You got to go.
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Speaker 2: It's a full it's a full village.
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Speaker 1: This nigga taking shares with him.
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Speaker 2: That's all guy. Like all my songs, basketball games. I never missed a basketball game. I put the career down. I still go to the dance competition and lives with me. Yesterday, you know, we did a YouTube video or yesterday, uh honest, and Melissa came by me and men's already talked about her new half business she's trying to do. It's like we all are big family, but everybody getting paid. Though. I realized, man, yeah, that paper is important. I don't care what people say, bro, and this especially black people, and I don't know how they got us to believe that you you don't got to get no money. Bro, go get that paper. Don't go, don't don't don't go on that vacation. Your first generation. You can't go on that vacation. I don't care what your man consperience card say, Man, go get that paper, because that's the only thing business God first of all. But business is gonna bring that family together. Y'all doing business together, because that's how family's back in the day was Lincoln because if you if we own a chicken joint, aybody comet work here. Like when I had my nightclubs, everybody was working on. My sisters behind the ball, My baby mama was behind the ball, my other sister at the door. So it's like, I feel like business bring families together, you know what I mean. That's what happened to me and my kids. I put them in my videos and everything.
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Speaker 4: You on having children, Yeah for sure, I definitely, like Wayne, I wanted like ten you know, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, don't have them.
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Speaker 4: No, no, not, that's over with And I'm good.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm looking at you as a free man right now. You look so freedom. You got no kids? Hey, brother, when I look at you, you look like it like lotion. You know the last time I had time to put on lotion, bro work man.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like the max I probably won now is three. But you come from a big family though you're a huge crazy I mean, well, like my immediate family, I got two brothers, two sisters. But just like it's a lot of us. My great grandparents had teens kids. Those all my uncles and aunties, my grandma and then they had so it's just it's just a bunch of us. It's dope as hell. It's also like stressful too, you know what I'm saying, Like what's stressful? It's like it's like ranking your family members because I'm playing the wedding right now.
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Speaker 3: So that's where you get real when comes to.
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Speaker 4: The wedding and who don't. Oh man, you got some cousins. You just naturally closer than the others. You feel what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, but you got it, you got that's the trick right there.
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Speaker 5: You don't as so as you don't want you guys selden and got lost the first time. You're gonna send them the second time, but it's only a week before the wedding, but they won't have enough time to actually make it.
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Speaker 3: That's the trick right there.
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Speaker 4: As a mad person, trust me, I don't know all my cousins.
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Speaker 1: You know all your cousins.
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Speaker 3: Don't know them.
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Speaker 4: All like like, well, like cousins, uncles.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I know, but I know that that's like y'all.
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Speaker 1: Got to remember something he is like in his family. I would assume you're probably the most faceus personally your family. Everybody wants to go to your wedding.
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Speaker 3: Are you like about it?
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Speaker 1: For sure? Everybody the id your wedding is like it's gonna be this is gonna be there, and everybody has that image and they're gonna attend because they want to go to.
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Speaker 2: But he got his wife though it's her size, it ain't never he don't got no wedding.
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Speaker 3: Got nowhere? Are you not helping play the wedding? How much of it is Ryan like running it? Are you?
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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean Ryan has such a v on it. Yeah, and I love that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I get in where I fit in.
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Speaker 5: But it is your day too, I think me and we're told it's not our day. Yeah, that's really bogus, like it is your actual day as well. I do think as a husband's your job to make sure that that is the most important day for your wife.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, but it is also a day.
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Speaker 5: In which you should remember cherishing feel like this was the best day of my life as well.
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Speaker 2: That's a movie, man, it's so much the woman day. Nobody never made a movie about that. Hey, bro put that in a note somewhere's my day too, because you're so right, that's messed up. Nobody don't think about how we feel on our on our big with the nigger. I was married.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you say you never do it again, right, No.
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Speaker 2: I'm married to the game now. Man, I can't.
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Speaker 3: That's like a dog, you can't talk back.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might getting dog, you know. List Lisa Kujo is one of the reasons that I chose not to get married. She told me one day we did a TV show. We was in New Zealand and she said, I said, I think miss being married and having to be in a relationship because it had somebody to talk to. She said, no, in the relationship, you need some to talk with.
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Speaker 3: M hm.
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Speaker 2: She said, you got to listen to them too. That's the part.
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Speaker 3: At least you heard that part the first time. I been listening, like I heard that ship.
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Speaker 1: That's how.
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Speaker 2: I want to talk. But when they talk back, it's like.
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Speaker 1: You've been married for years year ye right, if you even engaged for a few mon about about.
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Speaker 4: To be a year this month.
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Speaker 1: I've been in a relationship for two years. I'll probably get engaged then later. My my idea of being getting married is because of my parents. Though my parents have been married for almost forty years.
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Speaker 2: You better do that. You better make sure you say because of love, because she gonna and she gonna watch this. But you might even stop talking about it. Let me tell you right now, protect you did you just say in front of them big sisters that you getting married? You get married because you're.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no no. The idea of marriage is field in me because of my parents. Like, yeah, I want to have a family. My idea of like successes and like yeah, it's obviously there's a financial part of it, but the idea of success is like, man, I want to have a family. I want to be able to look down and be like, oh, my kids are going to play with my homies kids.
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Speaker 2: And you're so in love with her, Yeah, of course you love her so much, my best friend.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another thing loved. We were talking about this on another episode. Love only lasts not last alone, but like romance only lasts along at the end of the day companionship and somebody really fuck with loving enough.
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Speaker 4: Love is not enough.
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Speaker 1: You need a friend, You need somebody like I work.
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Speaker 2: I want somebody know how to cook, man, because like I want somebody to flo on their pants when I come home. Man, all the nice stuff all hey, man, Like, nobody ain't cooking no more.
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Speaker 3: Bro, we are losing recipes.
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Speaker 5: I don't want to be that guy that was like that, but we are losing recipes.
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Speaker 3: My girl, my wife, she likes to or.
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Speaker 2: The best birthing room in his kitchen. Some scenasons sometimes people.
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Speaker 3: Not really, but I don't really care.
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Speaker 1: Though your money, bro, my girl cooking, my girl cook.
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Speaker 3: You ain't getting home. Everything is the meal that.
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Speaker 2: Say you don't get my food no more?
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Speaker 1: He kept on food.
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Speaker 3: I think you just don't get.
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Speaker 2: You need to listen.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying you don't get my food.
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Speaker 3: Get married, bro, I don't be tripping like I'm with you.
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Speaker 1: I you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: But that's hell of fuddy though real.
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Speaker 3: But if they can't cook, I mean my wife can cook.
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Speaker 5: Got into a pocket of which were trying to eat healthy.
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Speaker 3: I had a chef for the chef was cooking for a whole year. I don't want to be that nigga.
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Speaker 5: It was cooked a whole year and we was loving it, and then right after that it was hard for to get back on that bike.
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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to tell them like, hey, maybe you're just ride it, just start moving them again.
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Speaker 5: And she does it at times I don't love is My wife loves drowing events and she loves cooking for other motherfuckers.
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Speaker 1: But that breaks my heart.
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Speaker 2: I'm about for real all right now. No man want to say it. I'm just saying for all the men around the world. He women, I'm telling you that. Man. I know the pictures on Instagram, Go get a man, retention attention, but that soul gonna keep the retention.
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Speaker 3: Boy preaching on him.
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Speaker 2: Dad, cooking is the number one thing. And they never back you up.
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Speaker 1: And we never don't let you know.
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Speaker 2: We never gonna let you know that because we don't even know that. This brother don't forgot that he like to eat. He said, that's the least important thing.
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Speaker 4: I'm I love it. It's just it's just the way I eat has changed.
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Speaker 3: But that's true.
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Speaker 2: I swear like too, so yeah you too.
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Speaker 4: No, I'm not vegan though, that's I mean that's I'm like, don't even like my whole idea on food is different now too, even thinking about fast and more. I'm skinny as ship here.
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Speaker 2: Right cook think about it, man, we're doing dashing food in a bag? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Facts?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, like I don't like no man, Like if I'm a relationship man, I don't. I ain't even be figuring on no food for no door.
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Speaker 3: I don't really So you don't even like you.
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Speaker 2: Don't do doing that power because I don't start, you know, I don't even eat fried foods and that on, eat sweets or nothing, no more. But it's just like I got to that point because it was just like, man, I'm like, food is the most important thing in your in your physical life.
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Speaker 1: How did you get there? Was there a moment that happened?
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Speaker 3: Was there?
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Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, like how did you become a bigger because I liked it? I I've been on since twenty and fifteen, you know what I'm saying, so eleven years. But what it was I realized I ate in that country. We ate so much. We ate squirrel dam it.
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Speaker 3: I be seeing y'all online eating gay up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like I think I've tried all we went to we went to the stream. So I was just was like, man, after you see so many family members with high blood person, I seen my family. I had an unhealthy family in the South forreal. Well I'm from like people really get sick faster because in the city, Like even when you eat unhealthy in La, it ain't unhealthy. Like we eat like we we ain't playing.
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Speaker 5: Off right area, y'all get a gallon of sweet tea with every everything.
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Speaker 2: What like it becomes normal. It's okay, just take this for that, take this for that. But I was like I was just naturally doing it, and then I felt the clarity. But I was like I always was serious about food period, even when I was eating Pauls. But when I was eating protein, I was like, I always like with somebody to cook though, so it's like now that I'm vegan, it's like, man, end of the day, my chef is one of the most important people in my life. But I was like, man, uh, that cooking is supportant every relationship. I don't be there. That really been the problem.
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Speaker 5: So you're more old school, like traditional sense is like you want your spouse to cook.
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Speaker 2: Not every day Okay, don't clean. You're clean. I ain't talking to you. She was mean.
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Speaker 3: I said, what if she doesn't clean.
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Speaker 2: If she don't clean, I'm well, my house makes sense. I can clean. I can clean, so I can have the house clean.
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Speaker 3: She got to clean, so you be cleaning or you have the house clean, don't.
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Speaker 2: It shouldn't get that dirty, like you know, the white clothes basket, the dark colthes basket, and the cleaner clothes. It's like, you know, it's organ it's organization. But that food is like, we have to eat. That's the most important thing, man, eating.
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Speaker 3: I see now think I don't.
00:22:04
Speaker 2: I told my sisters, I said, you getting killed because it's like like, hey, man, and the stuff you feed me, you really try to kill me? Man? How much sold is it? She really love me in your heart? You know what I mean?
00:22:18
Speaker 3: That's fair?
00:22:19
Speaker 1: I mean I had to convince my girl last night not to cook, oh man, and only because the housekeeper came yesterday. So it was like, you're gonna cook right after she cleaned?
00:22:29
Speaker 3: Why cause she clean?
00:22:30
Speaker 1: Whoever? Hell?
00:22:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the way you said that.
00:22:32
Speaker 1: I oh no, no, no, that's another thing.
00:22:36
Speaker 3: Not to cook, so she can't.
00:22:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Now she can actually really cook, and I was fearful at first.
00:22:41
Speaker 3: I will say, what she cooking?
00:22:42
Speaker 2: That's your favorite meal?
00:22:44
Speaker 1: She makes this tomato? I love just tomato pasta, like a fresh tomato pasta.
00:22:48
Speaker 3: Uh, he's like a child. It must be so easy to mirror.
00:22:51
Speaker 2: Nigg like what chicken in general?
00:22:58
Speaker 3: I hold my god, No, no, no, brother, your situation on here.
00:23:02
Speaker 2: I hope we're not selling it for the bare minimal because you just said it's a tomato pasta.
00:23:06
Speaker 1: It's I love. She makes us garlic chicken.
00:23:12
Speaker 2: I really love.
00:23:12
Speaker 1: It's like I can just feel him grilling me. Right, I'm saying, man, you not your.
00:23:22
Speaker 3: In Tacosco.
00:23:24
Speaker 2: Okay, I know you got there, Tacosky.
00:23:29
Speaker 1: What's your favorite meal?
00:23:30
Speaker 2: What you cook?
00:23:30
Speaker 1: What do you eat the most?
00:23:32
Speaker 2: Now? My shell?
00:23:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's like your number one ordered me at home?
00:23:36
Speaker 2: Man, I ain't gonna lie. Man, my chef she go crazy. I got a chef out here to go crazy. I forgot what I got a chef and bost call the flour collar flower chicken. You know what I mean?
00:23:44
Speaker 5: Uh?
00:23:45
Speaker 2: The chickpea eggs, you know, Yeah, you get the oat, you get the old pancakes, or you could get the spell you get the spelled bread with digest well we got the glue free post so with the bazill I ain't eat. I'm not.
00:24:04
Speaker 1: I don't like gluteree possible.
00:24:07
Speaker 4: I haven't been able to.
00:24:10
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
00:24:12
Speaker 3: Don't taste good. Indeed, they don't taste good either.
00:24:15
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like when you it does that's baby. It don't taste good at first, but after you eat it so long everything started. Your taste bud started started to go back to paper, go back to being a baby, like you know how you taste buds. When he was a child, we drink similar. Yeah, so the taste buds started reversing. It's not a good.
00:24:35
Speaker 5: Idea of people that be like, it's just few and I respect it, you know, I like to like my food taste good and ship.
00:24:42
Speaker 3: I respect the idea of people. Yeah, you got here making caulifly steak and ship. That's on point, my girl.
00:24:48
Speaker 1: Make sure those salad dress. And there's things like that that I can't find in other people.
00:24:51
Speaker 2: Okay, Like I ain't gonna like brother, you get married, man, you should say that he bous back. So it sussists she.
00:24:58
Speaker 1: Make a vegan caesar salad dressing. I love because I don't eat a bunch of ship because I'm a baby.
00:25:05
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's why you got you. You try to cooking.
00:25:09
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, because you start hanging out with somebody, going a few dates, you're doing everything outside, and then once you get like comfortable, they start coming over, spend the night whatever, and then you start to hang out like five to seven, You're like, man, what should we eat?
00:25:23
Speaker 2: She started cooking at your house and she never left.
00:25:26
Speaker 1: No, her house is diving, her cribla? Is she cool?
00:25:32
Speaker 2: Where her friend at?
00:25:34
Speaker 3: She got gonna come.
00:25:38
Speaker 2: For a week? Many hold on, man, where are you finding that? She's aggressive? Times?
00:25:51
Speaker 3: I like it?
00:25:52
Speaker 2: And man, she got paper? Is she cooking?
00:25:55
Speaker 1: She's doing right?
00:25:55
Speaker 2: Hey? Man? That is made for all the girls out there who ain't got no paper. Hey, he got paper and she cooking, So y'all got no paper? Man? Hey, you got a girl with paper?
00:26:05
Speaker 3: Cooking is kind of crazy.
00:26:06
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
00:26:06
Speaker 1: You work with your girl, which.
00:26:07
Speaker 3: I think is I do? I love working with my wife.
00:26:10
Speaker 1: I haven't worked with my girl yet, and I am not a fear of it. But I just understand like that. It's a different level of a relationship where you can blame the other person for like very specific things and then you can bring that you just don't. You gotta eat that ship, you eat that shy'a good men.
00:26:25
Speaker 5: Once you make a decision to work with your wife, half of the shit you gotta eat, like, okay, this is I gotta let this go. Like ultimately, I think she's better at most of the stuff I don't use anyway, So as opinionated as I can be, I'm still not the executor of some of those things. So I try to be very like of course like conscious of that.
00:26:44
Speaker 3: So I like work with us.
00:26:46
Speaker 5: But it's a great work with my wife. Honestly, I think she got great taste. I think also she's only an asset and stuff that we do.
00:26:52
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I wouldn't want to be with somebody that wasn't asset that. I'm a dream. I wake up every day with a new dream, with a new thing I want to do.
00:26:58
Speaker 2: You can sell anything, bro come no, no, for real, you're a trained husband.
00:27:04
Speaker 3: Like trained husband.
00:27:05
Speaker 2: No, man, that's a bar. The way you said, that's what you're supposed to say.
00:27:11
Speaker 5: Maybe sad said heartbroken, like she has training, but that's a bottle.
00:27:19
Speaker 2: Happen wife, happen life.
00:27:20
Speaker 1: I really believe that's happy house.
00:27:23
Speaker 3: Yes, I really believe that. Would you like, would you work with Ryan? Do you ever dream of like that? Like? I know you?
00:27:29
Speaker 4: She inspired me, so yeah, that's a no brainer. She held a talented bro like, I'll be like you you dope? You even want to do this? Since you was young young like ye, I played sports. I did not want to do this.
00:27:39
Speaker 1: How did you get lacted?
00:27:41
Speaker 2: Man?
00:27:42
Speaker 4: Because when I moved out here and got signed as a model, I was like, I've always wanted to act. You see the Disney commercials and ship on when you watch Disney Channel, Like, I want to do that ship But we in Sacramento want to do this all that, But honestly, just the short version modeling gave me the foot in the door to act. But then one side said, y'all want to act. I took that ship super seriously. But like seeing somebody like Ryan work, that should just come natural to her, and she worked hello hard. I would love to work with her just to learn from her. You feel what I'm saying, But she's so I guess that's that Capricorn energy shed just be locked into what she did a cap too. Yeah, yeah, the caps, yes, the cat.
00:28:17
Speaker 6: I don't try caps saying I don't care what start your grabd man.
00:28:32
Speaker 2: People be like, oh, I'm like, I see it all cats.
00:28:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably when you connect to more and you ain't even pay.
00:28:38
Speaker 2: To Let me tell you something, do you I'm a sagittarius, Let me tell you. They beary y'all whustling like I know some homeless sagittaries. He's still it's a flip side to everything. They hustle more thannother homeless niggas. It's a little different, man. Yeah, I don't try hey man, I just end of the day, man. I think I think food is important.
00:29:06
Speaker 3: You ain't wrong, though.
00:29:07
Speaker 2: Food is battle and important. I think people don't even know they thinking about food, but they thinking about because think about it. If you go on vacation, it's part of they get you with the food. They ain't doing that well. Taking the models drawing a heart and costing you ten thousand dollars and put some rice in the middle and flip a coin. No heart, Yeah, I love your phone.
00:29:33
Speaker 1: Came up.
00:29:34
Speaker 2: People don't even know but man, that's what something I just love to say, man, because they say, you know, black men can't be in relationships and see her brother Gauge mad on the way, and I just feel like we had a seventy five percent rate.
00:29:48
Speaker 5: Right now, Man, we need to bring you over here or you got to convince us that with our girls one of the other.
00:29:54
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell you you don't want to come over here, bro, No, for real, that's good. I'm gonna tell y'all. Man, ain't nothing like having a wife and not like having a woman at home. You don't want to be out here free being able to do what you want to do.
00:30:08
Speaker 1: Boyshit, now you have me. At first, I was like, hang you out, you.
00:30:23
Speaker 2: Want to want to?
00:30:26
Speaker 1: Okay? I have a question though, see me in my situation right we're looking at houses right now. We both own our houses, but we're looking at I'm gonna tell mine she's gonna figure out hers, and we're gonna move into a new house. And the conversation is like, how do we split that?
00:30:40
Speaker 3: How do you split it?
00:30:41
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like to me, it's fifty fifty, oh fifty, big.
00:30:45
Speaker 2: Gonna lie, man, fifty fifty can get up with that doll you talking about see that dog on pin no bills, So.
00:30:52
Speaker 3: I've been here before.
00:30:54
Speaker 1: Fifty fifty thing to me. To me, it's just a real if we both are earning what we earned, let's just need fifty fifty.
00:30:59
Speaker 5: I was in a relationship before it, and we bought a house together and this girl and we went fifty fifty. I paid for more of the I think the I think either the mortgage or down payment something that was in my name. It was like a small separator, but it was really fifty fifty ball separator. And then we broke up and it became like a conversation and you're like, damn, we gotta but she had to go just because I had a little separator that was a little more. And on top of that, no no, not like I didn't kick her.
00:31:27
Speaker 3: Out or anything.
00:31:28
Speaker 1: It also the house and kick her physically.
00:31:29
Speaker 3: It was in my name and she was from overseas, so she couldn't have stuff in Oh.
00:31:33
Speaker 2: You got her what?
00:31:35
Speaker 1: No, she rich, she was rich.
00:31:38
Speaker 2: But now fifty to fifty brother ain't gonna be like it's case by case though. It's like it's being on where you want to be at in your life. What she want to do. That's that's one thing about being relationship man, is y'all business. I don't even think nobody can really give you no advice on that because I'm gonna be honest. She ain't gonna be that dog though, that dog on bart, you know what I mean.
00:31:58
Speaker 1: The thing is, Okay, you gotta think also, like at a fifty to fifty thing, it's like we're equally in this. It's both of us have our skin in the game. I think that we have this idea of relationships our whole life. We've all been taught we got to take care about women all these things, and I agree with that, you know, I think that's like that is a real thing. It's keeping her safe, protecting all those things. But there is a certain point where it's like I feel like, yeah, we gotta somebody has to pick up slack. I don't work like a normal job. I'm not somebody who's at work five days week. She's at work five days a week, so I'm home most of the time. So yeah, obviously, like I'm gonna stay at home, boyfriend, you are, Yeah, I am my house. It's not like it's like I'm saying to her. It's like, I'm so I feel like there is an obligation for me to like take care of little things like that. And it sounds like I think a lot of dudes wouldn't say that, or I know what I'm saying, but like some people don't.
00:32:48
Speaker 4: Some people like, oh the idea I do laundry this, I'm like, nigga fifty fifty sound like niggas is keeping score.
00:32:55
Speaker 3: Liked, but like it's just we don't want.
00:33:00
Speaker 2: Clapping because I just.
00:33:02
Speaker 4: Feel like I just feel like if like it's like you say you at home, like if it's some dishes in the sink, Nigga'm I'm an clean because I don't like when dishes in the sink, I'm not babe, these are still in here. It's like, nig'na, I'm gonna do it. It's my house to you know what I'm saying. Like that's but I feel like family, you just you just pick up the slack without even thinking about it.
00:33:20
Speaker 1: The fifty fifty is not so much a financial thing to me.
00:33:22
Speaker 5: It's just all of it, everythingship just saying that I'm gonna be there for you, I'll.
00:33:28
Speaker 1: Be the un It shouldn't be fat if this should be a hundred one hundred, both of us doing the most we can.
00:33:33
Speaker 2: That's a bar though. I ain't gonna lie because it's like my man said, like I clean up in my house, like I'm gonna watch the dishes, I'm gonna keep the kids like me and my wife, my wife was married. I'm gonna do all of that, you know. So I just think it's his team. And then when I was in the streets, I just get her paycheck. Sometimes her income taxing flipped, so it's like she used to get an income tax Like now you know what we're doing with that. I know your friends going to the mall, but you go and give me that about whole another full ways. It's like when you because when you're in because when you're in a relationship, it's like that. It's like it's us man. It's like I think people mess up a relationship when they get too much outside opinions and information. Y'all know. So it's like it's y'all keep pans out of your relationship.
00:34:19
Speaker 1: You got, I mean mama to live with that person. Bro, your mom doesn't live with that person, your homies person. You have to wake up every day and choose that person that's on the other side of your house. Why would you let these outside voices come in.
00:34:31
Speaker 5: That's your one real family member, like like not saying it like that, but like like, that's the one person you chose to be with all your other.
00:34:40
Speaker 1: Family every day.
00:34:41
Speaker 3: You didn't choose you didn't choose your mom and choose you dad, didn't choose the kid.
00:34:43
Speaker 5: Like those are people that you know come from you or from the situation from the DNA, But you're not choosing those people.
00:34:49
Speaker 3: Once you choose that person, it's really you and that person.
00:34:52
Speaker 2: That person. Bro, you need to say that to the camera because.
00:34:54
Speaker 3: I left a lot of girls, but you don't want to not married talking.
00:34:56
Speaker 2: Because their mama was in their relationship too much. The one I married her, mama stayed out of our business. That's why she got further than everybody. But sometimes why she got first. She got to the final level. That's why I I made her good his wife. I say, girl, I married you. That that means was something without a prenup.
00:35:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that means it was real, real, really cured.
00:35:19
Speaker 2: Oh I love that girl.
00:35:20
Speaker 3: How long was you on already?
00:35:22
Speaker 2: Yeah?
00:35:22
Speaker 1: I was on.
00:35:23
Speaker 2: I married her. I had already got engaged to her when I was coming up. I went it was a coming to club weekend made like one hundred grand. I was in Texas, and I can't I say, you know, we get married Monday because now I'm up. I showed who I loved without a prenup. But once I got in a relationship, I realized it's hard when you done made it and they and they ain't made it because unless they if they're still ambitious. Because an ambitious person trying to make it, I'm like, oh, so I'm talking about my ideas. I'm like, man, I'm finna go to Houston next week. I'm finna go to he and it's like, I'm fin to get this eye. Last company started and I'm like, oh, that's what it cost me money. It ain't gonna make that much.
00:36:05
Speaker 3: Oh so you, Oh so you shouldn't dreams of business.
00:36:08
Speaker 2: I was a business man, like, man, we might as well do this, you know what I mean. But it's like I couldn't feel I couldn't feed her dream the same way.
00:36:13
Speaker 5: How much of it is on you though, with your partner when you make it, to make your partner understand that you, we both made it, Like, like how much of it is? Like also on you to not separate those things and make the person feel like isolated of like, oh I made it, you did.
00:36:29
Speaker 3: It, you know what I mean?
00:36:30
Speaker 2: Like all right when you come from like we made it.
00:36:33
Speaker 5: Because if you're my real teammate and my partner, even if it's just me going to work each day and you don't have it, I say, you ain't got a job. If you're still handling and taking care of my mental I can go to work and perform it. If you're making sure that the house is took taking care of it away, if you're making sure my life is easy, you're still working as well, Like we just have different jobs.
00:36:54
Speaker 3: So like how much of it is? Like we both made it when I made it.
00:36:57
Speaker 2: I try to make her feel like that. But the problem was we come from the same place, so coming from that small town and it really happened. I'm the only one in that area ever happened. It happened. So it was kind of resentment on her end because she felt like she could have been doing more because she was talented. She's very talented. She just as talented as I am. But the issue is the lane I made it in. She couldn't help it that lane. See when I had the nightclubs and try to be a rapper, she fit that world. But this the company lane is it's a niche lane. So she didn't see where she could help.
00:37:26
Speaker 5: But you don't bring You don't bring like the same way she helped you in the other world. You wouldn't bring her into that world.
00:37:31
Speaker 2: She couldn't help. She didn't even know where to fit in. Me and her was talking about this the other week. She didn't know how to fit in with comedy because we're from the streets. He from the streets. She had thinking about being no comedian, you thinking about rapping and nightclub So it's like when I made it in this game where it's called stand up comedy and social media brand new. She didn't know how to help. That's why my next relationship, we were both comedians, so it was like it was perfect because we're talking about the same thing every night, so it's like it was equally It was equally yoked and department So you like.
00:38:00
Speaker 3: Working with your partners, then oh yeah, yeah.
00:38:03
Speaker 2: Like everybody know, I love that because I feel like that's the only way, especially with social media. Social media made relationships so hard because if you if you're in the house with your girl. Back in the day, she only could see y'all and what was on TV, which we noticed an imaginary thing. But now you could be in the house and your girl, Oh, scroll through and see a wedding. I want that on my wedding. So now you know you compete with the world a little bit. Now it's like so it's like, yeah, I like I like working with him, because if.
00:38:34
Speaker 3: Ryan continued to take off, how much of you would be?
00:38:37
Speaker 2: Like what it like?
00:38:38
Speaker 5: I mean I think that you know, I have friends that do really will and like we got out here, you're all striving for something.
00:38:43
Speaker 3: To me part of it.
00:38:44
Speaker 5: You have like this healthy competitiveness, as long as it doesn't like actually overtaken become like I don't want this person to win. How much of that you think would I want to say, bother you, but like you know that just inspire you any more, it wouldn't.
00:38:59
Speaker 4: I mean, I love Ryan, she I want her to succeed. But that's how I am with everybody in my family. I think I want to be the nigga struggling, not everybody. I want everybody to be happy doing now. Of course, of course, but I'm saying I'm saying, I'm saying struggling in a sense of like a good struggle that journey. I want to be the one that everybody good and I could just focus on what I need because I hate bro. I be thinking about my family all the time. I don't really get to like appreciate with it. So like when Ryan taking off, I'm like, one that's that's destined, that's gonna happen. And I'm just like, how can I you know? And then I'm like, how how can I service her? You know what I'm saying, How can I help you? How do I make it easier for you? Because and like I said, I'm inspired by Ryan, So the shit she be doing, I'll just be like, Bro, that's fire. Like I ask her so much shit, like any things on shit creatively, I'm like, yo, how you feel about this? How you feel about that? Because I think her taste is fire. So it's just like for me, I'm I think I think when me and her, me and her, don't we talk about more about what we don't want to do and how that might look like we know what the ship we want to do. So when you're doing it, it's like yes, then it might be some ship that come across the table. It's like man, hell nah, yeah, but.
00:40:11
Speaker 1: Some money, you'd be like money always money, always give.
00:40:15
Speaker 4: I always ask her scenarios, like would like the price, like like what's the where do you compromise that? The taste of the creative? You know what I'm saying, And yeah, the integrity. But I mean, if you're in competition with your partner, bro, that's like hell, that's hell hell.
00:40:34
Speaker 2: Bro. It really is that.
00:40:37
Speaker 1: I have been.
00:40:39
Speaker 3: I was with a girl. She hated me.
00:40:41
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure, like like, I don't know, she always hated on me whenever people will talk about me in a room in a way, I think part of her felt like that nigga like and I would feel it, but I also would. I think I grew up in a my brother hell brothers and they're all very competitive. Part of me thought it was normal at the time. I just thought like, oh, people gone, the closest people gonna hate on you.
00:41:03
Speaker 3: It's part of the game. And there is still part.
00:41:07
Speaker 5: Of me that feels that way that like, you know, it sucks, but it feels at times like, the higher you go up, it continues to dwindle down with the people that you communicate with because there are some that are not so happy with the higher that you're sure and those are the people that are close to you, and it breaks your heart.
00:41:27
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I went through that for sure.
00:41:29
Speaker 5: I felt like, Oh, this girl don't she ain't really a fan ofize, she don't want me, and I didn't. And I didn't realize until after and I got my wife, who's like my biggest fan, and I realized, oh shit, this is how it's supposed to feel. He' supposed to have somebody that's just like, you know, champions you in this way at all times and supports you this with at all times. But yeah, for many years, I was like, I think, you know, it drove me because you're in the household with a hater, so it's driving you, Like you don't realize that you living with a whole bunch of hate in your heart too, based off this person.
00:42:04
Speaker 2: So it's hard to find a real teammate.
00:42:05
Speaker 4: Man.
00:42:06
Speaker 2: I think that's what everybody looking for, somebody who really truly I want to see you win. Yeah, you know, you don't know who really want to see you really win until you really really start winning. Until you really start winning, you ain't tested until it's really calm, and then you realize, man, don't nobody want to see you win more than yourself. So it's like you got to remember that.
00:42:26
Speaker 1: I want to see my girl win so damn bad though she winning in it.
00:42:31
Speaker 2: But it's like.
00:42:33
Speaker 1: There's a thing where it's like we work in different industries, but I understand her industry and she understands mine. I feel like, so it's like we know the struggles that we both face. And with that, it's like, man, I know what the fuck you're going through.
00:42:45
Speaker 2: I get it.
00:42:46
Speaker 1: Just keep going. I got you, I got you, like I've got your back. She took over her company and became the CEO recently, and like she owns the company, but she had hired another CEO and fire oh and yes, And when she became CEO, it was like every day she came home with more problems, and you know, easily a nigga be like, just who cares, don't worry. I'd be bro I'll be still on the countrybuting in tears. I was like, I'm right here with you. I got you. Whatever you need I put on some music.
00:43:17
Speaker 2: Make it all good.
00:43:18
Speaker 1: But like that understanding of yeah, you got to be the teammate. You got to be the coach and the player. Sometimes you gotta be able to play both of us positions to make sure that the other person feels those things.
00:43:29
Speaker 2: That's real. Bro mm hmm, that's I ain't gonna lie man. Y'all need to speak more there because they don't think that we They got a narrative out there by black men, like we can't we all may all y'all all this emotionally connected.
00:43:41
Speaker 3: Oh brother, I've been therapy alone in my life of cancer.
00:43:45
Speaker 2: So she just like super what cancers do?
00:43:47
Speaker 3: Hey, they're just like they're more I guess, emotionally like aware.
00:43:53
Speaker 2: So she you know, what's a cancer birthday?
00:43:57
Speaker 3: July tenth is her.
00:43:58
Speaker 5: So it's in between thinks from like June twenty seconds till like July twenty seconds.
00:44:03
Speaker 2: Are you know one must lie about her birthday the one I'm talking about cause you said aware.
00:44:08
Speaker 3: June twenty seconds of July twin second?
00:44:09
Speaker 2: I believe No, that's what I'm talking about.
00:44:15
Speaker 3: She was cancer.
00:44:16
Speaker 2: Yeah you're cancer. Let me tell you something. She's not aware of nothing.
00:44:19
Speaker 3: She's not aware of anything, got Chase.
00:44:23
Speaker 2: I don't think.
00:44:24
Speaker 1: I don't think when I get into that.
00:44:26
Speaker 3: Though the whole chart.
00:44:28
Speaker 1: I called my mom one time and asked her what what time was that?
00:44:31
Speaker 2: Boy?
00:44:31
Speaker 1: She said, don't mess with no girl like that.
00:44:36
Speaker 2: I don't ask me that. Man, you not talk to that woman like you can't even suspira. You can't even let myself right there, You're gonna get trapped. Know the stars, there's no way you know the stars, but you don't know why you having a headache given to day Like that's too.
00:44:50
Speaker 3: What your bills do.
00:44:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a high level. That's a high level knowledge. No, and not notice all the simple things a lot, Like somebody know about the stars, but I don't even know what's going on here on earth.
00:45:03
Speaker 3: I don't put that much power into it.
00:45:05
Speaker 2: Like I know some people who really do it. I know some I know some people who really do it, people I work with. I'd be like, bro, there's no way it's at the man and producers.
00:45:13
Speaker 3: I think it's real.
00:45:14
Speaker 5: I just think I believe those things are on top of the person, like the experience of the person and everything.
00:45:20
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think the person who grew up and I broke it home and was beating.
00:45:24
Speaker 5: It's thinking the exact same thing, this person that grew up and two period home this because it got same birthday. I think that maybe maybe in some ways they may have takes to feel this way, but they still have different experiences made them who they are, So I don't I don't put that much power too.
00:45:40
Speaker 2: I'm like, your birthday is, we could be together, geminis.
00:45:43
Speaker 3: I'm a Gemini. Na, nobody likes me, nigga. I mean like I'm a Gemini.
00:45:47
Speaker 2: People like a gem And I got to say, got two personalities.
00:45:51
Speaker 3: We got more than that. Yeah, I got like ten of them motherfuckers. For surely.
00:46:00
Speaker 1: You are an avid Facebook user?
00:46:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, Facebook for sure?
00:46:04
Speaker 1: You think Facebook over Instagram over tu everything?
00:46:06
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I knew the audience. Yeah Facebook, Facebook got the Facebook got. You get your audiences like the aunt ties and the mamas and stuff. With Instagram, it's a shared audience. So it's like a shared shared audience. You never can you can never hold the attention. You could never no, because they they are stars themselves, you know what I'm saying. The Instagram crowd is the one taking pictures. Of the food. They ain't paying attention to you. You know what I mean? In Facebook audience, you will be hot and nobody won't even know you hot like I've been. I've been hot since twenty fifteen, and it ain't never been really hot because Instagram all is more Lawyer. It's the Tyler pair audience. You know what I'm saying. So they gonna be there because they Facebook Facebook because they the Mamas, the Aunties, and they the Aunties, so it's like they already don't lift. So it's like, you know, hip hop, he already man ain't like that. They going, hey, man, they going to see Hey, They're going to see Charlie Wilson. The Facebook audience. Facebook audience don't run off cloud. So say like my own fans get on me if I drop something traids they gonna say it. So say like I cooked something and you cook something and yours better than mine, My fans gonna be like, noah, man, his was better versus Instagram. They go with trends. It's trendy in topic, so you can't you don't even know if you're really hot for real, because it's so I always knew that front. I always knew that from the beginning, because I feel like social media is like a social intelligence. It's all high school. So however, high school was your neighborhood, was you know which audience is gonna be around the long It's like is white? I remember when I knew I never wanted this audience because I remember while they was hot, they were like, while the best meek Mill that was hot, where's Kleef? And they would switch every other month versus whoever like Mary J. Blige, They love Mary J. Bla, they love Lauryn here too, they love Monica. It's like the same audience. And to be honest, Brandon and Monica the only concert that I went to that selling out arenas with full of black people. You think about the rappers when they slid arenas a lot of white people call. Because to be honest, that audience that like brand and Monica, the Mary J. Bligers them audience is there forever versus the other audience. Man, you're gonna have to man, you're gonna have to do a backflip. And I ain't got tired to do the stuff on social media. It takes.
00:48:29
Speaker 4: How is the algorithm on Facebook like is it like like Instagram's algorithm is to me, I hate it. Yeah, yeah, that's your whole shit. Like, how is that with Facebook?
00:48:38
Speaker 3: Is it?
00:48:39
Speaker 2: It's like I've been on it since twenty fourteen, though, so I stayed so consistent, like on Grandfather then, you know, I dropped like fifty videos a day right now.
00:48:47
Speaker 5: I was gonna just ask you what's the highest outside I said thirty.
00:48:50
Speaker 3: You said five.
00:48:53
Speaker 2: To fifty. You know what I'm saying. I'm dropping forty to fifty right now, get like one point eight billion views. But it's that audience.
00:48:59
Speaker 5: How many how many videos do you, let's just say coldly, you have archive that you're like, I ain't even put these out of there, all lives.
00:49:05
Speaker 2: I don't even know because see I got twenty two producers, so they turned in videos I love. I dropped like the last fwelve days myself. I did two one the sister videos and I just hold them and I just keep it going.
00:49:19
Speaker 1: How much time is that in a video? How much time are you spending per video? You shot two hundred and sixteen the last few days. How much time is it like you're shooting like a day, Yeah.
00:49:26
Speaker 2: I shoot, I should shoot. I shoot twenty videos a day. On a regular day, I shoot.
00:49:30
Speaker 3: Twenty videos improv or you just like, are you right?
00:49:32
Speaker 2: It's like no, I right. So it's like I got continued storylines from years ago. So I got Amber and Shayla. I write that I got Amber. Amber was with she was my girl, but then at my business part. I mean, she ended up with this guy and then it was cool, but I was dealing with her behind her back. But then her best friend ended up getting pregnant by her husband. So the micro drammer thing everybody doing, I've been doing it since the pandemic. So I write these stories and then I got other producers. They write their stories.
00:49:58
Speaker 3: You'd be writing in your new hos. I feel like you.
00:50:01
Speaker 2: Always oh yeah, yeah, oh hey man, hey man, everybody got to eat man.
00:50:09
Speaker 1: I feel like I always look up and see some new work for your ship.
00:50:11
Speaker 2: Hey man. Oh yeah. I put everybody word. I've been my kids, everybody. But you know, Facebook, it's just that audience, man, that I knew. I knew from the beginning who I was aiming at. I was aiming at the audience, you know what I mean, because it land it's more longevity.
00:50:29
Speaker 3: That's very smart.
00:50:30
Speaker 4: I love the artists that just know their audience and oh yeah, and feed that audience. You know what I'm saying that Core, I think that's hell of important.
00:50:36
Speaker 2: Bro.
00:50:36
Speaker 4: Everybody always be trying to get more people.
00:50:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that audience. Instagram gonna follow you anywhere if you get some money. Yeah, so this is what happened on Instagram. You get some money, they follow people come to my shoulders that I know ain't my fan. They just come because Kirn Jawayne, we know he up with the Facebook stuff. So when I went on interviews, I strategically talked about the money on purpose because I knew Instagram was gonna come regardless.
00:50:58
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, yeah, I'm just saying, well, Instagram and Facebook technically or.
00:51:02
Speaker 2: Connected Instagram, they look at people lives lifestyles. This is it's nothing new. It's like, that's why rappers talk about money.
00:51:10
Speaker 3: You're not wrong. I think about that all the time.
00:51:12
Speaker 5: I could present a crazier lifestyle, but that's not my personality to be like I need to present like a lifestyle. But I do think about like the fact that people are into these like very materialistic things like this. I don't want to ever be that person, but I know that I could get a response from.
00:51:29
Speaker 2: This thing Instagram. The world. Man, it's the world and it's but it's an audience out there for everything. Bro, It's like you got to know your audience and whatever your audience is, man, whatever you it's like marriage for real love who love you. I think some people like k I knew what audience loved me and I feed them, and I think most people won't. I know who everybody want. They want the world, They want that audience. Because people have this audience and still try to please that audience. And it's like they won't that one because it's louder. But to be honest, bro, Tyler Perry got richer than everybody. So your favorite after your favorite R and B singer or your favorite The reason why Tyler peed is richer than everybody because he, like, listen, this audience is overlooked. See what it is. People don't try to please their grandma's. They don't try to make their grandma's proud, and they are uncle's proud and trying to make a dude. They try to make the world proud. So what it is this audience not the most popular because nobody trying to make Grandma proud. They trying to make the world proud. So I knew this audience, the Mary J. Blige audience, I feel them. I was dancing the songs. It was times that my people, my pr and my team was like, man, you need to act younger. I acted old on purpose. I had a beer and used to keep it raggedy and keep it what'sing to make people think I was forty before I turned for that. I'm thirty eight, you know what I mean. But I did that on purpose because I knew this audience is the long game. The audience is gonna switch up. I've seen it happen. Look at all our favorite rappers. Who was hot that dead the audience got older.
00:53:04
Speaker 3: I feel like.
00:53:04
Speaker 4: Fans have a big part in that too. I feel like sometimes fans set the standard of real successes. When everybody when you when you, when you're doing ship on that commercial level, that's pleasing everybody, and then you miss your own audience doing that, yeah, servicing them because everyone's moving the goalpost to make It's like, oh, yeah, you could do that, but you gotta you gotta do it on a on a on a higher level, like an artist. To me, that could that could sell out you know, his venues to his core fan base and consistently, consistently all the time, stay on. That's bro, that's ultimate success to me. But if you're trying to if you not appreciate these shows because you want to be in the arena and you and you're doing things, you're making music that don't sound like you, now you done lost your core fan base. It's like that's I think the fans play a big part of that too, And like the stand culture of not letting the artists just living in the world, be them and be successful with their audience. And I feel like a lot of people fall into that trap.
00:53:56
Speaker 3: Bro.
00:53:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I'm like, you really got to figure out what you want to do, Like, yo, what is the goal? Like what you really have to think?
00:54:02
Speaker 2: What do you want to do with we y'allso had the same goal. Man, it was your art to bless others. But man, we got to make some paper. I think people are scared to make money. It's a lot of people scared. I'm like, bro, God is okay with you? Get some money out of there? And I think what happened in those bigs when the internet came, and the prefix of a word helps you with the definition internet. I in t it's interception. It intercepted the power. So the industry doesn't have the power no more so for the last ten years. I think Tipping hadits was one of the last ones that was able to bubble off off a movie in it. Really I seen overnight comy club tickets went up, you know what I mean. But nowadays it's who on the Internet like Drew Skin, like bro a person could go and listen a chuckle goal in the biggest movie right now. If Drew Skin just dropped the hot video for three for seven days, he gonna be look at continette. You know, the Internet really got the game. It's just that it's hard to self that the Internet really really inter accepted the game. Like that Instagram, I know people selling tickets. I know people selling tickets right now like crazy. Yeah.
00:55:12
Speaker 1: Stand of comedy is like it's still alive and well and thriving.
00:55:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:55:16
Speaker 1: I think social media's changed something. We're gonna say the same thing. Social media's changed so much. I think in acting it's like rather it's one of like the biggest parts of it. Now. Do you think it's affected you're a worker, though.
00:55:28
Speaker 4: I really don't know. I don't know.
00:55:30
Speaker 3: I know for me.
00:55:31
Speaker 4: I know for me like there's a way that I want my brand to look. And at the same time, I also like, don't really care to give too much of who.
00:55:38
Speaker 3: I am on the internet.
00:55:40
Speaker 1: How do you balance that? How do you getting engaged? How do you like did you post that a week after the day after? No?
00:55:48
Speaker 3: No, we got.
00:55:48
Speaker 4: Engaged last August and then we let people know in October. But we talk about it, how we wanted to look, how we want to do it. I feel like there's I'm all about balance, right, It's just like you let people into your world, but at the same time, you got to keep some shit sacred, especially as an actor. I feel like personally, but that's just the standard I set for myself. But I think social media sometimes I don't know if social media has helped.
00:56:09
Speaker 2: Me get a job or hurt me.
00:56:10
Speaker 4: You know what I'm I really don't know. But I also don't try to put too much thought in it because what happens is I start overthinking everything. Then I can't do what I want to do personally because I'm like, well, what if once you're worried about how people are looking at you to the point where you can't make a decision. That shit is like, come on, bro, that's the.
00:56:27
Speaker 2: That's the ball. What you just said. You can't care? Bro? Yeah, game, I don't care what that's I don't care what people say. I never did, though, but I come from almost going to prison when you don't penitentiary chances, I didn't you never care. Yeah, this all is just some comments. I don't care what, man. But when people be telling me they don't care about social media, I'm like, how you care about For somebody.
00:56:50
Speaker 1: Say, lock your phone, put it?
00:56:53
Speaker 2: But Na, that's a bartle. But I think everybody on social media, man, whatever, telling you do got It's the golden era of just hey man showing it to them, whether it's acting or whatever. And you know what I'm saying, because the Internet had got the people, bro.
00:57:09
Speaker 1: I grew up in social media, meaning like I was on Twitter and Instagram at fifteen, but I was like in high school going to school and getting getting to school, going to library and getting on Twitter because that's what I was doing at the time. And I think I grew a fan base just being a homie of homies and it all worked out thankfully. But like, even then, yeah, there was a moment in time where I didn't give a fuck what I put on the internet, not understand what a digital footprint was. And then you get to a certain age you look back at all the shit you said on the internet, You're like, whoo, yeah they maybe they's slow down a little bit. And so now I think it's like I've learned to instead of like, you know, I used to like post on Instagram like three times a week. Now I post like once a month, just because I'm like, I don't really have nothing to post. I don't take no pictures and nothing. I think that's another thing that's like having stuff to post, and a lot of people create content to post, which to me isn't right because it's not real. That's you creating something to post rather than just posting your life.
00:58:03
Speaker 3: It's a brand. Instagram became that, du I feel like early on it was just us posting pictures.
00:58:09
Speaker 5: It was just like you could post anything. You just post check like she was a day and nobody cared and make it a whole bunch of likes on that. Then it became like only selling things like part of me hates being online because I'm like, I don't want to always sell you things. I'd rather just have a conversation with you, and I don't think people care about just having conversations. Then you end up feeling like, damn, where do I even live in a place like this because I don't want to sell you shit.
00:58:34
Speaker 3: I'm not the guy to sell you shit. And then I just like, oh, I one top of this thing.
00:58:38
Speaker 5: But you like, hey, that conversation is either so big that people don't want to have it or they're just like that's this is simpler, like you know what I mean? Like, yeah, social media for me is just like I don't have fun on it. I think we used to have fun. It used to be a fun thing. I care so much about my brand when we like establishing a brand that like, even as you watch like the evolution of these things, I wouldn't do YouTube early on just because I was like, I don't want to do anything on YouTube. It doesn't feel like people are transitioning from YouTube to in TV and film. And then that changed, right, you don't know, the times ended up changing. You feel like, oh shit, this thing actually worked in this person's advantage.
00:59:15
Speaker 3: So all of it is kind of like in real time. I commend you.
00:59:19
Speaker 5: I tip my hat to you for staying so true to your brand, for knowing that and having the vision, because if you're young, it is very easy to get blinded by what the world wants.
00:59:28
Speaker 3: From you as well.
00:59:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they definitely want you to to to this day, if you're on social media, you're never gonna be looked at as a big, big star, but until you get the big movie to some people. So it's like I think, I think people. I think people are battle with that, you know. But it's like, man, at the end of the day, social media is the It's more stronger today than it was when I started. It's like when I first started, it was like you man, you still was whoever the stars was were the stars. But every year it kept going down, down, down, and then so then the pandemic is just here though, and then now it's like, nah, bro, social media is almost a must because it's your leverage in business deals, you know what I mean, Because if you if you walking there with the walking there with the fan base, that deal different. And I understood it from a business point of view. It was like okay, because I don't feel like doing it. I don't feel like what.
01:00:29
Speaker 1: It helps you with everything you do outside of it, Like you you're on.
01:00:31
Speaker 2: I had quit, though I started back because of the pandemic. I had got off of it because I don't feel like doing it either. But that's why you quit.
01:00:39
Speaker 3: Still had two thousand videos to post, posting no I was.
01:00:42
Speaker 2: Posting zero started pandemic. I just started posting that ball. But what was I started realizing, Oh, let me put other people on my platform. So that's what I did. I did if Cosanat would have made Duke Dennis and all them post on his so what I did, that's not me posting those vdeos. I got my storyline in the morning. Then Bread he poked, Bread turned in By He turned in two hundred and ninety three videos this month, Mike turned into twelve Soldier de Lasia turned in bout sixty. Uh So it's other people doing it because I knew if I stayed on social media too much, you're going to fall off.
01:01:19
Speaker 3: As it's very smart, you.
01:01:20
Speaker 2: Can't stay hot. You got to put other people on, like Lawayne when he did your money. That was a perfect time because it kept him relevant forever versus if he would have kept rapping up we Love You but a sound. So I just took I learned from everybody man and social media just it's like a big playground for shure, you know what I mean.
01:01:39
Speaker 1: And you're going on tour when I'm going, well, I going.
01:01:43
Speaker 2: First quar, no set term I started doing. I'm going to some coming club to work with some new jokes.
01:01:48
Speaker 1: You know.
01:01:49
Speaker 2: I just dropped the special graduate I gotta I got a movie with me and Coco Jones, independent movie called That's Her Me and Coco Jones. Cong I did one percent independently. It's coming out of theaters uh in February and this year.
01:02:02
Speaker 3: I love that, you know.
01:02:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we you know, coming to specially just dropped on Amazon in March called Nostalgia. Yeah. So me and we're rolling, man, we got a lot going on.
01:02:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, random question. You you've seen this new AI Jesus.
01:02:19
Speaker 2: App N I ain't seeing that AI Jesus.
01:02:23
Speaker 1: You could just write Jesus serious.
01:02:25
Speaker 3: This is this serious. I just saw this earlier. There was just like a new AI just dropp where you could just like you can just write Jesus.
01:02:32
Speaker 2: And people believe that.
01:02:34
Speaker 3: I mean, people believe anything. Of course, it's insane to think about it.
01:02:38
Speaker 2: Was like, bro, the.
01:02:41
Speaker 3: First message Jesus, AI Jesus.
01:02:44
Speaker 2: They don't took it. They don't took it to if you AI, I ain't that creative. My my producers we trying to use AI. Man they skitch with trash. I believe that the group cha. I say, y'all almost been using AI. AI is not creative.
01:02:57
Speaker 3: You know right away.
01:02:58
Speaker 2: Now I used AI for the music getting skits. But I go in there and I freestyle a song. Whatever the video about. I freestyled, you still have to put work for it. It is not created. The script they was giving them what I could tell they were using AI. Their their storylines were trash. I said, y'all are using AI because it's not creative, because then yeah, you know they told because you can just tell. It was just like, uh, it was like first R I mean you know what I mean. It had the story arc there, but it was outlanded stuff. It wasn't It wasn't dog. It's like he runs out the porch and you falls on the ground and then that's that fer everybody was fighting on the page. I'm like, hold on Why are these storylines somebody hitting somebody hitting they you know.
01:03:43
Speaker 1: What I mean?
01:03:44
Speaker 2: How the AI videos do there was trash man.
01:03:47
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I know you knew they were trash person.
01:03:49
Speaker 2: Numbers, the numbers numbers can tell like right now, right if you go on social media talk, you're going to naturally bring audience because you've been talking on shows for so long. Is the girl Kendrick g I told her to go on social media. I say she was a radio host. I say, you're gonna take off. She took off. Because what it is, the algorithm is gonna show you who It's gonna whoever lasts a longer, it's gonna choose you. It knows what you are. So the algorithm is not a trick. It's just that you have to be good for real. Yeah, that's all the algorithm is. Most people just ain't funny, and they think they fund it because people don't told them they fundy. But time is going to tell every the most disrespected thing in the game. It's funny because everybody made somebody laugh. But the comedian age is funny. They could trigger you that Williams can make you you get an argument with him. He can make you hate your life.
01:04:37
Speaker 1: Boy, he made that radio hoseay her life.
01:04:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:04:39
Speaker 1: Man, the Algitha Brian.
01:04:50
Speaker 2: I mean bro.
01:04:51
Speaker 1: Comedy I think is it's the best tool in the world. It's like we need it for everything. I think if we laugh through problems, we solve a lot of things, like easier and better because if we all walk in with like our big boy pants on, wrong, tough and shit, nobody's gonna be accepting it exactly. Man, you got to kind of the gesture in the past, and like ancient times were a real historic thing, and they were really important because they said the things that people were scared to say, and because they were funny about it. It was fine. You could make fun of the king because it's a gesture and we all want to say these things, but because it's soun a funny way, we're.
01:05:23
Speaker 2: Like, it ain't hurt everybody feelings either. That's the that's the lie with comedy, Like, how do you see it?
01:05:31
Speaker 3: You don't think you can hurt nobody feelings?
01:05:33
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but you can't intentionally do that as a comedian because a lot of comedians be sensitive. They say so, then somebody say something back to them, like no. If you said you got to be able to stand on it, that's true. So I think that's the problem with comedy now, Like the comedians are sensitive, a lot of them. They want to be just said, but don't nobody say nothing bad but I'm a comedian, but no, I'm a human. So it's like, you got to be able to take will come with it. Because that's why I don't talk about people. If you notice, you've never feel find a video of me talking about somebody, because I'm like, I talk about.
01:06:03
Speaker 3: You can take it.
01:06:04
Speaker 2: Huh, you can't take I can take it. I don't know what that person going through today. People like that, Okay, okay, I'm like, bro, I don't know what that person going to and at the end of the day, you know, I'm already up. They really ain't fair. So I talk about my function down. Yeah, I punch punched down.
01:06:24
Speaker 1: Bro.
01:06:25
Speaker 2: I talk about me and my family, and that's what worked for me. I tell stories. I don't really go with people like that. I go with people even playing field, like, okay, you're in a relationship, on a relationship, man with you. I come here because to be honest, man, if you go there, people can say something about your kids. So I talk about my kids because you.
01:06:42
Speaker 3: Got teen too.
01:06:43
Speaker 2: I got I got some man, my kids. I talk about my family, but my family have to go through it because I talk about them, but I pay them to talk about Okay, Well.
01:06:55
Speaker 1: That was a great episode. I think we got a lot of good ship out of that. That was hilarious.
01:07:00
Speaker 2: I like how you came back at the end and saved your relationship.
01:07:05
Speaker 3: Very important, very important.
01:07:06
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you in a week. Man, you gotta get my number. Bro ended.
01:07:13
Speaker 1: I'm coming out to see if my boy I need to low.
01:07:15
Speaker 3: I know you be cooking too. If you stay at home, you gotta be cooking.
01:07:19
Speaker 1: I learned how to cook recently. I am now a steak master. I like that.
01:07:24
Speaker 3: It's pause, that's not yeah. I mean, y'all paused me so much in New York Master.
01:07:30
Speaker 1: I guess I'll let you. I'll let him have that one.
01:07:34
Speaker 2: That's all right.
01:07:35
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for watching the shop. Thank you guys for being here. We really appreciate it.
01:07:39
Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all. Man, this is great.
01:07:40
Speaker 1: I think we had a good time. I think we laughed. I think we talked good ship. Uh, we're here every Monday, so I see you next motherfucking Monday.
01:07:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fun.