Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 10-22-26

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Happy Thursday, everybody.
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Welcome to the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
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We got a packed show today. Gordy Chiesa is going
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to join us. Eric Weddle is going to join us.
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We've got Dishin' with Dev on a replay. We're going
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to have a little bit of fun with the show.
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Shreyas Lada also going to join us the new Salt
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Lake Tribune jazz writer who we have been remiss and
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not catching up with as of yet. So Shreyas at
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one 30 and look, we're going to have a lot
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of fun with most of the show. The Colgan guys,
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I think are going to swing by, talk about what
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they've got going on, special offers for our listeners.
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We will have fun on the show today.
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This first segment is not going to be fun for
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me to talk about because we got really bad news, uh,
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reported by.
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Jason Patak.
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Yeah.
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And Josh Furlong and a lot of the guys that
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are on that Utah beat jam Wallace, who is a
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Tennessee transfer to the university of Utah plays defensive tackle
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for the team has been suspended indefinitely.
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For, I know this is a family show.
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I want to make sure that we talk carefully because
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there are sometimes kids in the car. Uh, I recommend
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that if you have kids in the car, you turn
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the volume down for a little while, maybe come back
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with this next segment because there's going to be some
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themes on here that I don't want parents to have
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to explain to their kids. If, uh, if you don't
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want to have that conversation yet, I got a seven
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year old And I would not be having this conversation
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in front of her, so I want any of you
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out there listening right now to maybe avoid this next
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20 minutes or so, maybe 15 minutes or so, while
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we dance around the details, but we have to talk
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about it in a real way, in my opinion.
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So, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, you've been warned.
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Jan Wallace has been suspended indefinitely for alleged sexual misconduct
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stemming from an incident that happened a few weeks ago.
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And it's been alleged. Well, his alleged victim is claiming
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that he assaulted her, that he forced himself upon her.
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He has not been arrested for that. He has been
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arrested on suspicion of disseminating graphic materials of somebody without consent,
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which is by itself a very, very serious incident. I'm
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just going to use sexual misconduct. I'm just going to
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use misconduct moving forward in case someone's tuning in late.
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All right? And the allegations are that He's been casually
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seeing that maybe a situationship with this young woman that
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he seemingly got jealous that she was talking to other people.
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He found out about that via her Snapchat somehow that
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he decided to engage in certain activities that without her consent,
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he filmed said activities and then sent the video of
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those activities of him, Engaged with her in those activities.
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To the other people she was talking about. Which is
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of course. A violation of many different things. General respect.
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Privacy. The terms of your relationship. Whatever that is.
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Right? It's misconduct. And it's all alleged. We'll let the
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investigation play itself out. But her allegations and. what he
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was arrested for don't 100% match up. He has not
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been formally charged with a crime. The way that you
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adjudicate this within your program, if you're Morgan Scali in
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your first year as a head coach is going to
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come down to, I think a matter of great importance.
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I think this is going to be something that, When.
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You preach culture and you talk about culture and everything
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that you are doing is culture-based, you have to make
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sure that the behavior of your team matches up with
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that culture. And if it doesn't, which of course it's
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not always going to, that you handle it accordingly.
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Now, an indefinite suspension, even if this is Devin.
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Dampier, if this is if this is way Sean Parker,
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if this is Jackson Benny, if this is the most
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important players on your team, you still have to handle
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it the same way as if it's a guy like
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jam Wallace, who has played one game for the team
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as a transfer, you have to handle it the right way.
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And we have talked about and not talked about certain
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players for years that are involved in whatever. And I would,
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I would make an argument that this is the one
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that is the biggest culture killer. If you don't punish
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it of all of the things that college athletes find
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themselves mixed up in, you've got your run of the mill, uh, academic.
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Improprieties, cheating in class.
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I don't think that there are many football fans that
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are going to cancel their season tickets or disengage from
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a program or stop believing in a coach. because there's
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a couple of players getting help on tests. I think
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that even though that is improper behavior, I don't think
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that there's a lot of people who will die on
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that Hill as a fan. I think that when you
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hear about things like, you know, team members of a
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team that may be going out and getting into An altercation,
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a physical altercation, a fight. Maybe somebody gets arrested because
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somebody says something at a bar.
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Maybe something else happens.
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Whatever house party goes bad.
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Most of the time, you don't even hear about that stuff.
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But if you do, I don't think there's a lot
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of fans that are going to say, Oh my gosh,
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I cannot support X, Y, or Z anymore because these
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guys are menaces to society and they're going around house
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parties and they're beating up young guys and they're beating
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up frat boys and whatever else.
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I don't think Now, you want to see that handled properly.
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You want to see people suspended for a half or
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for a game, the violation of team rules stuff. You
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want that to be adjudicated properly within the context of
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the football culture in addition to whatever legal action needs
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to take place. You don't want to see people hurting
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other individuals with impunity. I think that it gets a
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little bit dicier when When you start to talk about
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things like driving under the influence, a lot of people
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have very serious emotional connections to that charge, that crime,
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that issue, right? Some people have been hurt by it
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in the past. It becomes a hot button for a
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lot of people. And it is a very serious thing that, again,
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you want to.
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See handled properly.
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And college football across the nation, I think, does a
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pretty poor job of this. especially if players are very
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talented where, you know, a guy gets a DUI and
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the team slaps him on the wrist and kind of
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buries it. And hopefully behind the scenes makes them seek
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treatment and understand the seriousness of the crime or whatever,
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but it doesn't become a huge matter of public record.
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And I think that there's almost like a quota to
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be insensitive about it, that a fan will say, Hey,
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You know, it's just kind of like.
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The cost of doing business. It's kind of par for
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the course.
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You can't control every single person's background, personality, behavior when
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you're talking about 100 people on a roster.
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So this is.
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Something that we will not support, we will not like,
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but we will accept as sort of like a sunk cost,
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as a collateral damage to being part of that football culture.
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And as long as you don't handle it egregiously.
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Bad the way that Georgia has handled their crazy reckless
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driving things over the last couple of years. I don't
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think your program is going to develop a reputation because
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a guy or two has a DUI. I mean, we've
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seen this at BYU. We've seen this at Utah. We've
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seen this at Utah state. We've seen this in a
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lot of these different places. I make an argument and
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my My opinion on this is certainly colored by my
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own experiences in life and the way that I was
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raised and the way that I'm trying to raise my
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own children. I think that proper or improper handling of
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this type of allegation in particular is as serious or
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more serious than pretty much anything else that can happen
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in a typical college football slash crime space. Because it is, unfortunately,
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it is a common issue on campuses and with campus life.
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That there is some disconnect between what people think is okay,
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what people think is consent, what people are doing when
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they're under the influence of certain things. I would make
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an argument that for myself and probably a lot of
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you and I think most fan bases.
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The way that sexual violence or allegations of sexual violence
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are handled by a team, and this goes all the
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way to the professional level and certainly on down the
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ladder to high school and hopefully not beyond that, but
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I think the way that you handle this is the
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most important thing you can handle when it comes to
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putting out the fires. For me, I don't want you
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to just put out the fire.
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I don't want you to just make it disappear. I
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don't want you to just make it go away.
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I don't want it to be a thing that you
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sweep under the rug and nobody ever talks about it again.
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I want the young men who are in the program
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to understand that they are accountable. I want the public
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around the program to know that the young men are
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going to be held accountable.
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And to be fair to the young men, I want
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equal accountability to.
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False accusations if something is found to be a false accusation.
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And look, there's a lot of complicated details that we
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will have to sort through with this Jan Wallace thing.
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And it's, I'll admit, it's convenient for me that we're
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talking about it on a guy who's like a fringe
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roster player. He's not somebody who's important to the wins
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or the losses. But I hope you understand that I
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would feel the same way as somebody who covers this
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team for a living, I would feel the same way.
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If it was someone who's important to the team.
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That I would fully support Morgan Scali suspending indefinitely, even
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at every down starter until this issue is resolved and
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has worked out. And if what the arrest was made
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for is the extent of the crime, it's still a very,
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very nasty crime and something that has to be addressed
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and something that for me probably precludes you from playing
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for my football team. It's more complicated now than it's
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ever been because these guys are paid. And if there's
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a sunk cost to them being paid, you might have
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to accept that. I don't think whatever amount of money
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you're throwing at anyone who came out of the transfer
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portal is worth compromising the culture of your team. And
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that's the only reason I brought this up at the
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beginning of the show today. I would much rather be
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talking about X's and O's and details and what went
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on with the Utah jazz last night. But for me,
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it's an important thing that the teams that we watch
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and that we root for in the state of Utah
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are what they say they are. And it's even more
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important for me because this is my alma mater. And
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I count several people on that staff as friends. And
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I've gotten to know some of the guys. And I
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think that their reputations being attached to either proper handling
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of something like this or improper handling of something like
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this makes it a lot more personal.
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I don't know. Jan Wallace from Adam. I've had one
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cursory interview style conversation. That's it. I don't know him.
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I don't know his parents. I don't know his family.
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I don't know how he was raised. I don't know
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his opinions on any of this stuff. What I know
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about him is that these allegations are very, very serious,
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serious enough that the police have made an arrest, but
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they did not charge him with a crime as of yet.
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He's not been formally charged with the crime as of yet.
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Morgan Scali. This is the first off the field test ever.
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Of his tenure as head coach. Well, you could probably
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make an argument that this is the second off the
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field test because the first off the field test was
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his handling of the transition.
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And I think he did that with flying colors.
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I think that Morgan handled that as well as anyone
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could possibly handle it. He takes the mantle from his predecessor,
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from his mentor. He does it with class and he,
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as everyone is, the house is kind of burning down
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when it comes to the Whittingham reputation. Morgan Scali has
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been very deliberate in the words that he says about
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Kyle Whittingham in the light with which he mentions the influence.
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It's all positive stuff. And I think that Morgan has
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done a phenomenal job in that.
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And I think my expectation, the trust I have and
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what we have seen so far and what we have
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seen from him in the last several decades is I
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think that this will be handled exactly how it needs
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to be handled.
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And I want it to be clear that on some things.
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And this is one of those things, a football team,
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a program, a basketball team, a gymnastics squad, whatever should
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be absolutely uncompromising. when it comes to safety for their
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student athletes, when it comes to safety for the student body,
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when it comes to safety of the young women that
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are interacting with your student athletes. It's too much to
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ask to say, hey, this is just boys being boys.
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It's not that.
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If the allegations are true, I promise you it is
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not just boys being boys. It's abnormal, pernicious behavior that
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you have to cut out like a cancer from your
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football team if you want true gentleman culture. That's probably
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the wrong way to say it.
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If you want true.
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class and elite culture to be part of what your
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football team is. It's an important thing that really has
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nothing to do with football in this case, because you're
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not losing production. If he's off the team, you're not
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adding production. If you put them back on the team,
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but the reaction has to be the same. Even if
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it is somebody who's important to you beating Houston, And
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the indefinite suspension is the right thing right now until
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more details come out, until the legal process resolves itself.
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Too often, in my opinion, what you have is an
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indefinite suspension and the details come out. And before we
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get legal resolution, you'll have... a coach led a player
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back onto the team. Just like, Oh, well, he's got
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these things hanging.
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Over his head.
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We're going to let the legal process pay play out.
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We see that at the NFL level so often with
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domestic violence disputes and a bunch of stuff.
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And look, I get it.
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There's, there's a legal protection offered to people. You're innocent
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until you're proven guilty. That's the legal thing, right? The
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culture thing for me is significantly different. 877-353-0700. If you
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want to express your agreement or your disagreement, I'm happy
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to talk about it. We're not going to spend too
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much more time on it today, but it is something
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that was reported yesterday. all that we've had to talk
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about with Utah football is these pleasant surprises and this
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great stuff. And the correct way to cover this team
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is to cover the entirety of this team. And this
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is something that you cannot blame on the coaches. You
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cannot blame on the coaching staff. I don't even think
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you can blame it on anyone's parents or the way
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that they were raised. I think that this is individual behavior.
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If any of this is true, but if it is true,
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I want like, if there's even a possibility that he
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ever gets his behind onto a football field again, this
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better not be true. And if it is, and he
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wants to play again, I want like a serious proven
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rehabilitation restitution. I want there to be a consequence that
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actually makes sense because we live in a society. Now
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we live in a world. Now we live in a
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sports culture now where this is more important than it's
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ever been to make it clear where you stand when
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it comes to taking care of and protecting those that are,
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for lack of a better term, weaker than you, more
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vulnerable than you. It is wholly unacceptable for men, no
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matter how cool, popular, attractive, successful they are, it is
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wholly unacceptable in any circumstance for them to use that
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in a way that makes a woman feel attacked, vulnerable,
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put upon, victimized.
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It's just not okay.
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And her allegations and his allegations, her allegations and the
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police allegations do not match up right now. It's important
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that I give Jam that grace to say, She said, rape.
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The police said, we're not arresting you for that. We're
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arresting you for disseminating these images without consent. There's a
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big distance between those two things. But even the crime
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that he got arrested for, the alleged crime that he
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got arrested for, is one... that you have to root
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out in your football program if you want us to believe,
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if you want anyone to believe, including the people in
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the building, to believe that culture is the main driver
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of your success or anything else.
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And OC, just to chime in, just a little bit
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here and then we can move on. Um, I think
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that Morgan, if you asked him and if he was
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in a place to talk about this directly, I think
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he's a defensive player, Colton Swan, uh, his D his
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position coaches is Luther Ellis. I think if you asked
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any of those guys and they were in a position
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to answer it directly and publicly, they would say, yeah,
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we agree. That's why we indefinite. That's why there's the
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indefinite suspension. And that's how we are rooting it out
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of our program. So I, I think that, and you
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said it just a little bit ago, that is what
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you should do for now.
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And I think they do that.
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They don't just kick him off the team out of
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respect for the spokesperson's comment to the Salt Lake Tribune
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and others said out of respect for the legal process,
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we will not comment any further. They're doing that out
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of respect for the legal process as well to not
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just kick Jim off the team right now. Indefinitely suspending
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him and Morgan being the person that you know him
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to be, that I believe him to be, and all
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those other guys in the coaching staff being who I
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believe them to be, they're not going to be the
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kind of people that are just going to bring Jam
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Wallace probably back on the team. I wouldn't expect Jam
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Wallace to play another down or practice another practice rep
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for University of Utah. And if if that does happen,
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it's because they've gotten, they've gotten enough evidence or whatever,
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enough information to quote unquote, exonerate him of these, of
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these allegations. And that, that would probably be okay. But
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I just, I don't expect him to play again because these,
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this culture that Morgan was brought up in under Kyle
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Whittingham and urban Meyer before that, and, you know, coach
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Mack before that. And the person that I believe him
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to be, you know, him to be again. I just,
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I don't see him going, you know what? Technically you're okay,
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but we don't, but so go ahead and come back.
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I just think we don't want even the reputation of
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this on our team.
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Well, look, if he is cleared, if he is exonerated
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and really like, I don't like using the legal language.
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If he didn't do this, he didn't do it.
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If he didn't do this and there's a preponderance of
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evidence in whatever investigation and the coaches feel like he
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didn't do this, then back on the team and a
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false accusation should be handled almost as seriously as the
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accusation itself, or excuse me, as the alleged incident itself.
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I really, you know, there's a power in pointing your
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finger and saying, this person hurt me.
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And people know that now.
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If I want to hurt somebody and they haven't actually
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done anything to me, me accusing them is a way
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that I could, if I decide I don't like James
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Peterson anymore, and James hasn't actually done something to me,
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but I want him gone, or I feel wronged by him,
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even if he didn't do anything illegal. An accusation, a
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harsh accusation against James Peterson is something that will follow you,
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that will hurt you, that will damage your reputation, right?
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Especially when it comes to something like this, because it's
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a scarlet letter. It's attached to you, even if you
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are eventually exonerated.
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People will question that.
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And unfortunately, that reality has to be handled differently almost
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the same way as the allegation itself has to be handled.
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But to the original point, the allegation has to be
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taken very seriously because.
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This is a team that says culture, culture, culture.
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Who we are is doing things the right way. Doing
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things the right way matters to Morgan Scali. It matters
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to Luther Ellis. It matters to Anoke Brechterfield. It matters
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to Derek Odom. It matters to Kevin McGiven. It has
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to matter to everyone all up and down the program.
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We know it matters to Devin Dampier. We get to
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talk to him every single week. I'm not going to
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tell you Devin Dampier is a perfect person. Everything we
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know about Devin Dampier, he's a pretty.
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Dang good guy.
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I don't want Devin Dampier to have to feel like, wait,
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the guys around me, don't have to follow the same
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standard that I have to follow in order to be
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on this team.
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And thus the indefinite suspension and the, it feels like
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probably not going to be back on this football team.
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At least that's how it feels right now. Like I
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think that they're handling it the way that it needs
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to be handled right now, short of just kicking them
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off the team outright, which probably isn't the most fair
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thing to do because you want to, you want to
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be fair to this legal process.
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So that's the last we'll say about it.
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GM Wallace indefinitely suspended under allegations of serious misconduct involving
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what can only be described as adult activities being filmed
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and then disseminated without the consent of the young lady
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involved to apparently some people she was talking to on Snapchat.
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So it gives off the account in the articles gives
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off the vibe that he was pretty dang jealous of
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what was going on and wanted to say, Hey, just
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so you guys know, this is, this belongs to me, which.
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Is totally unacceptable and inappropriate. Absolutely.
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And even though, you know, Jason Patakios article in the
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Tribune describes it as, I think you use the word
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situation ship. Well, a casual off and on, that he
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and this girl have had, and yet he saw that
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she was communicating with other men, and even though it's
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very casual between them, he reacted in this way. He
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felt that she is his, which is, like you said,
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completely unacceptable, which I'm glad that as soon as Utah
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football found out about this, which was October 11th, 11
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days ago, they immediately said, Get out of here for
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an indefinite period of time.
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Certain things are culture killers.
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I believe that this type of behavior, if it's allowed
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in your program, is one of them. It leads to
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coaches being fired. It leads to players being arrested. It
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leads to problems that you can't get over easily. So
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I think it's being handled correctly, and I applaud the
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coaching staff for addressing it this way, and we'll see
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what happens with the legal process.
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Spence check.
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It's is going to be live at rally house today
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from two to six. If you have not checked out
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rally house yet, they've got an outrageous selection of Utah.
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You'd scared.
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You can get game day ready at rally house. It's
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right on four South next to the trader Joe's. If
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you know where that's out between what's that that's between
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sixth and seventh East. You can also come by with
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expenses at rally house. When a pair of BYU, Utah tickets, hello,
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assigned you tell me it. with Devin Dampier's signature on it,
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and anyone who stops by can get passes to the
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ESPN tailgate for the Utah BYU game. They're going to
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have Little Caesars hot and ready pizza also.
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I might have to swing by, honestly.
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Tailgate passes, Little Caesars pizza, a raffle for BYU Utah tickets,
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and A signed helmet by Devin Dempere being given away
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at Rally House on 4th South during the Spence Check
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It show today on the drive. Gordy Chiesa next talking
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about the Utah Jazz season opener.
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CSPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
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Peace out.
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Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiesa. He's forgotten more about the
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NBA than any of us will ever know.
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Let's not get crazy.
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Come for the Hoops Talk. Stay for his list of
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the day.
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My list today.
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Here's OC with basketball savant Gordy Chiesa on the Sean
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O'Connell Show.
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Oh, courtesy of Aladdin Industries, we get a chance to
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catch up with Gordy Chiesa here on a Thursday. Happens
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to be the day after the Utah Jazz, a remade roster,
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rounding out of a several-season-long tanking ex-escapade. They had their
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first game on the road against the Memphis Grizzlies. Not
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the result that the most optimistic Utah Jazz fans were
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looking for.
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103-123 loss, Memphis Grizzlies. outscoring the Jazz by 20 points.
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And we'll get to the bottom of the how and
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why with Gordy Chiesa right now. Hi, Gordy.
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How are you?
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Sean, I'm doing well. Thank you. The first thing is
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let's not panic about the Jazz. It's only one game. However,
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so far in the one game with how they played,
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they were surprised that the Grizzlies played so hard defensively.
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And that's the one thing, Sean, whether it's preseason in
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the NFL or preseason in the NBA, you could never
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assimilate the intensity of a real game. Even though you
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play some practice games, it's not the same. And the
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Jets have to understand that this is serious as far
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as the physicality of it. All right, Ty Jerome. Most
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people never heard of Ty Jerome. And all of us
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in basketball, yes, we have. He was a first-round pick
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as far as back in– 2019 out of Virginia, and
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they were NCAA champions. And so he has a background
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as far as winning. His problem has been he's been
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on situations where the team is always rebuilding. He's always
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out there. He got injured. And the last point about,
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before I say statistics, is that, Sean, do you realize
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he's an alumni of the G League?
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Twice.
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He played with the Northern Arizona Suns, meaning the Phoenix Suns,
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and the OKC Blue, meaning the Thunder. So let's fast
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forward it. So now he gets a chance in Grizzlies.
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He was hurt last year. He gets 45 points last night,
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but it's how he gets them. It's what we call
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a guy that has dribble integrity, where he doesn't over-dribble.
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He knows what he's doing. He has command of the ball,
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and he plays at a certain pace, and the Jazz
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last night couldn't speed him up.
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So when you look at a poor performance in this
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one game sample size with 81 more to go before
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we really have a fully clear idea of exactly what
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this Utah jazz team is going to be with Darren Peterson,
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you know, and ace Bailey and hopefully not long-term Jackson
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Hayes situation. How do you, how do you manage it
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in the locker room and how do you manage it
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internally and your coaching staff and say, all right, guys,
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We didn't think it was going to be a 20-point loss,
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but we knew some of this. We knew that we
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were down a center or a couple of centers that
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could have helped us in an effort like this one.
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You don't want to overreact to anything, but you don't
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want to accept that this is the result because that's
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not what this year is supposed to be. From a
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game-to-game standpoint, how do you handle it?
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Where you challenge the players. For example, Larry Markin and
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Jaron Jackson and Jackson Hayes had a total of one
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offensive rebound the whole game. So Sean, our beloved former colleague, frankly,
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he's just hitting me all the time. You know, Gordy,
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a dead man can get a rebound because the ball
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might bounce through his grave site. And that just shows
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you that the lack of effort on the boards. The
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Jazz had a rebound by 17 last night. And so
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those guys got to come to challenge where they have
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to go to the boards to play. The second part
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of it is that they have to be more engaged defensively.
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This is the Achilles heel for the Jazz. They've got
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to get after it. So I would take it personal
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if I'm a Jazz permanent player and Tyrone Jerome got
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all those baskets against me, I would definitely be ready
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to play tomorrow night.
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Darren Peterson relatively quiet in his regular season debut. What
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did you see from him that you liked, and what
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did you see that you know he's going to be
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working on?
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Well, I didn't like it all. He only took one
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shot in the second half last night. That can't happen.
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He had 9.3 assists. That guy's got talent, even though
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he's young. So he has to be able to get
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the ball in space and also play. not over-dribble. And
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last night, again, as I mentioned about Ty Jerome not over-dribbling,
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the Jets, historically, they did last night. So Darren Pease
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has to be more involved. So does Ace Bailey. And
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the way to do that is to run the floor offensively,
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sprint into offense, and be catch-ready. When you make that catch,
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make a quick decision. Pass, drive, or shoot. Don't pass
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and hold. So what I like about Darren Pease in
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one is talent. And it's only his first game. He's
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a young fella. He's got to be able to get
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more involved. And also his teammates have to help him.
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So he's a young guy, which means that your other
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teammates that are much more experienced, that they have to
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be an encourager of get the ball to him in
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the open floor to let him showcase his natural ability,
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both him and Ace Bailey, because they're the future right now.
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but Larry Malkin has played better, so does Jaron Jackson.
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He struggled last night where, besides no offensive rebounds, he
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has five turnovers. He returned home to Beale Street, meaning Memphis,
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but he didn't come to really be aggressive on the
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board or in the game right now. So they'll learn
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from this, even though it's painful.
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Lowry won for seven from three. Darren Peterson was 0
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for 1 from 3. Bryce Sensabaugh 0 for 2. Kyle
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Filipowski 0 for 1. The team overall shot 34%. And
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we've had some form of this conversation many, many times
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over the years, Gordy. What is the appropriate role for
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the three-point shot in this Jazz offense, knowing the personnel
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that you've got?
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Well, the role should be swing, swing, pass. So in
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other words, you want to shoot when the ball is
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moving towards you versus what? Dribbling into a three-point shot.
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And so that's absolutely critical where you're shooting more with fluidity,
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in team rhythm, and that when the ball does miss
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on a three-point shot, the rebounders can be able to
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chase down the ball on a long miss and get
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a second-chance opportunity. And that's why it was so alarming
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how the Jets are missing from three and that they
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still didn't get a rebound on a long, errant shot.
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And so what you probably would be is they shoot
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more at a rhythm. But the Jets last night struggled.
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It was defensively and on the boards. Just the nature
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of physicality. It's hard to assimilate in an NBA game.
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The intensity of it. It was the first game. Both
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teams had anxiety, but the Grizzlies, me being at home,
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they performed much better. And let's not forget about Cam Boozer.
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Cam Boozer, again, a rookie like Darren Peterson. Cam was
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the third pick. Darren was the second pick of the
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draft last year. He had anxiety also. Boozer goes from
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the floor, 2 for 15, probably his worst shooting night
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of his life, 0 for 6 from threes, but he
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did contribute 11 rebounds and five dimes. And so this
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is a whole different deal as far as when you're
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a young player in the NBA, you can't imagine how
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hard it is for these young guys to play through physicality.
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And often in a game, they shoot backwards instead of forward.
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And that's where you've got to learn how to do
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is you've got to be aggressor, but you can't be
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out of control. And so it's a learning experience. It's
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often painful. Don't make it fatal.
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Gordy Chiesa is our guest here talking Utah jazz basketball.
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As they start the season with a 1 0 3
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1 23 loss to the Memphis Grizzlies.
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On the road last night. And then, you know, they
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come back tomorrow night.
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They'll be at home, the home debut against the Pelicans
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team that I think is vulnerable. Do you expect the
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Utah jazz to have a bounce back and get their
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first win of the season tomorrow night?
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Yes, very much.
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Very much.
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A judge will respond to the challenge being at home.
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And speaking of the Pelicans, they lost last night in
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the Big Easy to the Pacers. They're winning the whole
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game in the fourth quarter. The Pacers had a 15-3
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momentum run, and it turned it around. The same players
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for the Pacers now are out there. I mean, Halliburton
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did a good job as far as in that comeback.
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From the Pelicans' point of view, Deshante Murray's still there,
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so is Zion Williamson. So Zion Williamson, we know he's
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a major jumper, only gets three rebounds last night. And
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so I'm making this point about all these big guys,
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you know, where they play outside, but you want to
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respect your teammates by crashing the boards. And so the
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Pelicans are in a rebuild. The Jazz are not. And
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so we'll see what they do tomorrow night at the
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Delta Center. You know, before I forget, is that the
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Jazz is going to do over, though, against the Grizzlies.
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They play them real soon again. They play the Grizzlies
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at the Delta Center next Monday night. So they're going
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to see Ty Jerome and the fellas right away here.
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The Jazz is starting tomorrow night a five-game homestand. So
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hopefully the Jazz can get some wins at home, which
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they should, and it should be tomorrow night. How do
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you beat the Pelicans? One, by moving the ball. Two,
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by running the floor. Three, by getting after the perimeter
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guys offensively. I mean, Deshante Murray and Jordan Poole and
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all the other players they have, but also be able
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to play offensively. with force without over-fouling. So it should
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be a good game tomorrow night at the Delta Center.
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Before I forget, it's a 7.30 start versus 7 o'clock
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tomorrow night.
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Gordy, around the NBA, we saw on opening night, we
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saw the Philadelphia 76ers debut for LeBron James. Going to
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be 42 in a couple of months and still formidable.
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Even when you ask him to play the five, what do.
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You think of him at center?
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I think it's wonderful. They played as five. They went
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small during the game to take out Joel Embiid, and
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LeBron's playing five. And at age 42, it's almost better
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being a five-boy. There's less running as a five-man. just
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generally speaking, because you're more in the lane. You're part
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of a defensive rotation. But it's not as much as
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you would be on perimeter where you keep flying around
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to try to challenge shots. So LeBron at five also offensively,
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that creates such a great mismatch because most people can't
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guard him anyway. But as a five-man trying to guard him,
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it makes the other team have to match down small
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or LeBron can take absolutely advantage of it. So it's
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smart by them. Sean, I want to mention about– because
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the Jazz played them on Sunday. The Jazz played tomorrow night.
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the Pelicans in the Delta center and have a wonderful
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game at three o'clock on Sunday. Sean, during the NFL,
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they're playing three o'clock Sunday versus guess who? The Lakers.
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So Walker Kessler, Walker Kessler had his first game in
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a Laker uniform and he shot, he scored 26 points,
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nine rebounds, two blocks, but he shot 12 for 12
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from the field. Obviously they're all mostly law passes from
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Luka Doncic, And he responded perfectly. And the second best
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ever as far as single game percentage of Laker history,
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second only to Wilt Chamberlain when Wilt had 14 for
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14 field goals back in March 1969. So he had
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a great debut, Walker Tesla. Let's hope in Jazz's point
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of view that they slow him down at the rim
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on a Sunday afternoon when the Jazz play the Lakers
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here in Salt Lake City.
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James just put this in the notes. Most dunks by
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a Laker since 2003. And that was Shaquille O'Neal. So
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Walker Kessler, one game numbers right up there next to Shaq.
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And you just said Wilt. So pretty good.
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Yeah, Wilt.
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Yeah, Wilt was 14 for 14 back in March 69.
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And Sean, in case you weren't there, I know you
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played in 1983. But 1969, that's called the age of Aquarius.
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It's a great song.
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Back in 69.
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What's that song called? Is it called the?
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That's exactly right. That's right. By Fifth Dimension, Adrian Aquarius.
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There you go.
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That's where it's from. And that's the last time Will
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did it back in 69 in March. So Walker Kessler.
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And in that game also against the Golden State Warriors,
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both teams are shorthanded. Lucas Dontage was talking, Sean, Slovenian
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trash at the rookie Axel Lindenberg of the Warriors. And
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so they're going back and forth. And let's say the
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least that Luca got the advantage of it. He played
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a great game with his points totally and also eight
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rebounds and seven assists. So again, the plot thickens in
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the NBA. NBA basketball, there's nothing like it. There's so
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many drama before the game, during the game, and after
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the game. And that makes it so interesting.
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Gordy, what's your list today?
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Okay, I'm going to list today, and you talk about
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LeBron James, and he's on this list. This list today
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is the most career by NBA players career-wise registering 20-plus
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points and 10 assists in the same game. So 20
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and 10 in the same game career-wise.
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Quickly, attributes.
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One, you need ball skills. Two, you have to be
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a goodwill, eyeful passer. Three, range shooter. Four, physical driver
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and finisher. And five, frequent free throw maker. 20 and
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10 as far as games. 12th all time. Steve Nash
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did it 152 times. Tied for 10. Kevin Johnson and
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Tim Hardaway Sr., they did it 170 times. Number nine,
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John Stockton did it 184 times. 20 points and 10
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assists in an NBA game. All right, number eight. Eight,
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this will change every single game. It seems like Nikolai
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Jokic is eighth all-time as a point center. He's done
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it 187 times, 20 and 10. Number seven, he did
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it last night with the Washington Wizards to help Anthony
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Davis have a great game. Trey Young has done it
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196 times, 20 and 10 games. Number six. Isaiah Thomas,
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done it 209. Number five, Chris Paul, 229 times. Number four,
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Matthew Johnson is tied with Russell Westbrook, both three and
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four all time. They've both done it 263 times. The
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second greatest player as far as 20 and 10 games
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is James Harden. with 266, and LeBron James, number one,
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as a point forward, and you're calling him, Sean, as
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a point center. Point center. He's done it 299 times.
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So LeBron might do it tonight, get his 300th time,
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where he has a 20-10 game. Let's put it in
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just context in jazz basketball. the degree of difficulty of
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doing this. Keontae George is in his fourth year, and
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he's a good player for the Jazz. Keontae George has
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only had one game of scoring 20 points and 10
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dimes in an NBA game. That's how hard it is,
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and his list is really of guys that are really
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so talented and know how to play offense, both scoring
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and passing. Sean, this is my list of today.
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Oh, Gordy, we love a good list, and we've got many,
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many more days of them as NBA season is officially back.
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Utah Jazz start off 0-1, but plenty, 81 more regular
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season games to play, all right? I didn't do a
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good job of asking you this. We've seen the projections
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for the Utah Jazz. This will be the last thing, Gordy.
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Anywhere from play-in team to the highest I think I've
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seen in a publication is a potential seven seed in
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the upcoming playoffs. Where does Gordie Chiesa put the ceiling
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for this Utah Jazz roster?
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I think they're going to be a play-in team. So
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I would say either seven or eight. And that'd be
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great for the Jazz. If they get to play in tournament,
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get some wins, you just never know. So I would
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say they're definitely a play-in team. They have talent, offensive.
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They can score the ball, and yet they're able to
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guard consistently.
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Gordy, thanks for your time. Always appreciate you, my friend.
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Thanks, Sean. Peace out. Stay well.
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Gordy Chiesa, brought to you by our friends at Aladdin Industries. Reminder,
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Nickelback is coming to the Delta Center April 22nd. We're
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giving away a pair of tickets every day this week
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during Topical Trivia. That'll be at 145. Tune in for
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your chance to win. All right, we've got a PGA
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Tour leaderboard update coming, and the guest picker, the celebrity
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guest picker for College Game Day in Salt Lake City
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has been revealed.
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Utah fans, you're going to like it. CSPN 700, 92.1 FM.
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You're listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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Hyundai Studio of ESPN 792.1 FM.
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The celebrity guest picker for the University of Utah versus
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Houston College football game day appearance has been selected.
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NFL player with Utah ties.
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And perhaps most importantly, owner of what I think is
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the best dark mode performance in the history of Utah football.
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Buffalo Bills tight end Dalton Kincaid will be the celebrity
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guest picker on college game day. A little nod to
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his 16 targets, 16 receptions, 270 yard.
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Wait.
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Two 70 and a touchdown.
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Most importantly for me, the most impressive sideline catch I
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have ever seen in college football. When cam rising found
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him down the East sideline going toward the North end
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zone for just an absolute beauty of a catch. Dalton
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Kincaid is your celebrity guest picker on Saturday.
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It's well done.
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Um, What's crazy about his 16 for 16, which of
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course will be legendary through forever and university of Utah
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football lore against that team USC, right? Cam rising may
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have had the second best in the same game. He
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may have had the second most impressive best dark mode
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game performance ever. with his incredible game that same night,
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as they had to come back from two scores down
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to beat USC, and he had, of course, the famous
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two-point conversion. I love that Dalton's the guy, and we
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should be celebrating that he's coming back and is going
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to be honored this way as Celebrity Guest Picker for
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game day. But as you were talking about that, and
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I thought about Cam Rising, too, I hope someday soon
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we get Cam Rising in that role at some point,
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at a game day or some other kind of, celebration
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at rice.
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I saw, I saw some people putting his name out
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there as a potential candidate to be the celebrity guest picker.
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And the problem they have on the game day set
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is that you have to select someone that everybody knows.
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And I actually don't even think everybody knows.
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Dalton Kincaid, but because he's an active NFL player on
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a buy this week, it makes a lot more sense.
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Cam rising. I would love to see him sitting up there.
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I just don't think that nationally game day would ever
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make that decision because you know, it's a, it's a
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show for the entire audience.
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That's a good point by you.
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I hope that, I hope that it's someday that's something
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that will end up being able to happen, but that's
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a good point by you. Maybe it won't because he,
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maybe it's going to be obscure to the national audience.
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Uh, by the.
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Way, 34 yards, two 34, two 34, not two 70, uh,
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two 34 for Don Kincaid. He is your celebrity guest picker.
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A lot of pressure on him. Steve young went 10
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for 10 on his picks.
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Oh, he did.
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He really, he went 10 for 10 on his college
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football Saturday predictions. Is that a record for the celebrity guest?
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It can't get better than that. So yeah, I mean,
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it's a record for like volume.
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Like maybe guys have been perfect before, but not that many,
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like not 10 games. Maybe like, I wonder if that's
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a record, not just in percentage, but like, games picked correctly.
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That's it.
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That's incredible by Steve Young. Also much to the chagrin
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of Utah fans. That was the highest rated college game
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day episode in like the last five years because huge
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game and every Mormon in America was watching. And I mean,
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I think it also speaks to the power of Notre Dame.
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Cause I don't know how many Notre Dame and how
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many times game day has been on, been at Notre
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Dame's campus. I know that they typically go to sec
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a lot, but the fact that it's a, I mean,
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Notre Dame obviously has a huge audience too. So both
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of those factors combining probably there, that game's going to
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be the most watched game in the big 12 conference
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this season.
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It peaked at 13.2 million viewers. Oh yeah. It's a
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huge college football audience. I would hope.
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That the holy war is the most watched big 12
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conference game of the year, but I don't think it's
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going to top BYU Notre Dame.
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No, I mean, come on. It's Notre Dame.
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Yeah.
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You can't, you can't ask for that.
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All right.
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Real quick, a PGA tour leaderboard update from the Bermuda championship.
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What's that leaderboard look like right now? Here we go.
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Silverman is your leader. Ben Silverman is your leader at
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eight under. He's tied at the top of the leaderboard
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right now with a couple other guys.
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Trying to see if Tony Finau is in the field here.
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I think he's got to play in a lot of
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these tournaments because he needs the FedEx Cup points, right,
874
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to keep the tour card. Doesn't look like he's in
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the field, though, from what I can see. Some of
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the other guys in the top ten. We've got tied
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for fourth, Mackenzie Hughes, one shot off the lead at
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seven under. And Eric Cole is in the next group,
879
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tied for seventh at six under. Zach Blair, there's a
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Utah player on tour, if you know, you know, from
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Utah Golf Radio. He's at six under, tied for seventh,
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just two shots off the lead. So I don't see
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Tony Finau in the field, but Zach Blair, Utah player,
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he's near the top of the leaderboard. So that's your
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PGA tour leaderboard update brought to you by you went
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to golf.
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This is what in Bermuda I would skip if right.
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00:52:52.289 --> 00:52:55.969
The Bermuda triangle. I'm not trying to get lost. I
889
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feel like we heard about that a lot more as kids.
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00:52:58.389 --> 00:53:00.969
Oh yeah. And now the Bermuda triangle, nobody even talks
891
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about it anymore.
892
00:53:01.829 --> 00:53:05.820
Maybe it's because the PGA tour has done an event
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there every year. And they're like, we've actually debunked it.
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00:53:09.019 --> 00:53:09.920
Players don't get lost.
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I think it was the, the, the OG conspiracy theory.
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Yeah.
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And everybody learned it from like magazines and books and stuff.
898
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:18.989
And then when the internet came along and we got
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exposed to every other conspiracy theory, The Bermuda triangle just
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faded into the background.
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I feel like DB Cooper is another one of those
902
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that like, you never hear about DB Cooper.
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Never.
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And that was such a, and that was before I
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00:53:32.659 --> 00:53:36.360
was born, but you know, watching like nineties sitcoms or whatever,
906
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they would, it would get brought up all the time.
907
00:53:38.980 --> 00:53:41.019
It used to be such a bigger thing in pop culture.
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00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:42.539
All right.
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We got to take a break. Eric Weddle joins us
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next on the Sean O'Connell show. It's ESPN 700 at
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00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:46.619
92 on FM.
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This is the Sean O'Connell Show, your home of the
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00:53:55.460 --> 00:53:58.719
best inside of your youths. Let's get back to OC
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from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM.
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Welcome to hour.
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Number two of the Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome in the
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00:54:12.469 --> 00:54:15.429
Utah football legend and the Super Bowl champion and the
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00:54:15.469 --> 00:54:20.570
head coach of the 7-1 Rancho Bernardo Broncos, Eric Weddle.
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Joins us once again. Hello, sir. How are you?
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Living the dream, baby. Living the dream. We got a
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big game Friday night. 7-1 playoff implications on the line.
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Maybe a home playoff game. We'll see how high we
923
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can go. We're playing one of the top teams in
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the state, Mission Hills. Had a big win last week.
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And then Saturday night, our Ute. versus the Houston. What
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are they? The cougars?
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Yes.
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Yeah. Those cougars, man.
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You know, you know, it's crazy. I I've been embarrassed.
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I didn't know this already.
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I'm 43 years old, but we looked it up today
932
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or this week. Why the Houston teams are called cougars.
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Cause there's no mountains near Houston. There's no mountains in Houston.
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So how do they get mountain lions or whatever? First
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of all, there's no Cougars nearby, which is a dumb reason. Also,
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they were named in the 1920s, and the reason they
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got that name is because a coach, the former football
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coach from Washington State University, got a job at the
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University of Houston, and they didn't have team names. So
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he's just like, let's name them Cougars like my old school.
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Is that not the worst way to get a name
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you've ever heard in your life?
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They should disband that name and find a new one.
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They absolutely should.
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100%.
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It's crazy.
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It's absolutely crazy.
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How embarrassing.
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All right.
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So we've been trying to figure out how to feel
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now for a few days about that win over Colorado,
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because ultimately it's a win, but man, was it ugly.
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What were your thoughts on Utah versus Colorado, where they
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did improve to 6-0?
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Yeah, I mean, obviously it wasn't how we finished. I
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think you give some credit to Colorado, right? Like, it's
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okay to be in the game and the other team
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executes at a higher level at points throughout that game.
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And like Coach Scali said, within the first 60 seconds
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of that postgame is we probably shouldn't have won the
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way we played at the end of that game. And
962
00:56:40.300 --> 00:56:42.789
the second half and just some– some of the things
963
00:56:42.829 --> 00:56:48.219
that crept in, you know, whether it's schematically or just execution.
964
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:54.480
And I think, honestly, like, I think it's okay. It's
965
00:56:54.500 --> 00:56:56.219
better to learn in a win than it is in
966
00:56:56.280 --> 00:57:01.980
a loss. And especially you look over the history of
967
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:04.630
Utah in the last, I don't know, maybe if you
968
00:57:04.650 --> 00:57:08.110
look back 10 years, and any time we have a
969
00:57:08.170 --> 00:57:14.159
home-ranked opponent coming in, we usually– played down a tad
970
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.639
the week before. And that's human nature. You're still learning
971
00:57:17.659 --> 00:57:21.500
the dynamics of this team, the leadership and the professionalism.
972
00:57:21.579 --> 00:57:25.739
And as a coaching staff and coaches, pinpointing how we
973
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:29.940
need to motivate and inspire and also tighten the screws
974
00:57:30.019 --> 00:57:33.420
on some things. So am I worried? No. They have
975
00:57:33.460 --> 00:57:36.840
to go play great, and they have to play top-notch
976
00:57:36.860 --> 00:57:39.679
football to beat this team because this team is dang
977
00:57:39.699 --> 00:57:40.199
good coming in.
978
00:57:41.510 --> 00:57:44.690
So we've talked a lot about pressure and the lack
979
00:57:44.730 --> 00:57:48.639
thereof for this Utah football team. And, you know, you're
980
00:57:48.659 --> 00:57:51.320
a guy who played in the defensive backfield in this
981
00:57:51.380 --> 00:57:54.760
defense and he played a lot of man coverage. And,
982
00:57:54.860 --> 00:57:57.550
you know, when you're not able to get to the quarterback.
983
00:57:58.630 --> 00:58:00.590
bad things can happen when you're in man, when you're
984
00:58:00.610 --> 00:58:02.369
not able to get to the quarterback, bad things can
985
00:58:02.389 --> 00:58:04.789
happen when you're in zone also, but it feels like,
986
00:58:05.550 --> 00:58:08.329
it feels like this is something that they've got a remedy.
987
00:58:08.630 --> 00:58:10.630
And I don't know if they've got the horses to
988
00:58:10.690 --> 00:58:14.409
remedy it. You can't change your defense halfway through a season.
989
00:58:14.940 --> 00:58:18.900
So Eric Weddle, genius defensive mind, how do you solve
990
00:58:18.940 --> 00:58:21.420
this problem where you still get some pressure on quarterbacks,
991
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:23.940
but you don't have to bring an extra body or
992
00:58:23.980 --> 00:58:24.960
two every single time.
993
00:58:27.579 --> 00:58:37.260
Yeah, it's, You know, I think how do I– you
994
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.920
said it perfectly. We are who we are at our core.
995
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:46.679
We have certain principles. We play certain techniques and coverages.
996
00:58:47.650 --> 00:58:52.510
And I think it's understanding leveraging angles, right, from a
997
00:58:53.489 --> 00:58:58.969
defensive back perspective. I think also from a coaching side perspective, uh,
998
00:58:59.090 --> 00:59:03.199
situational football and call wise that could help out the
999
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:09.329
secondary and help out the defense, Basically, a two-score game,
1000
00:59:09.369 --> 00:59:14.000
we're still playing press man. That's like a cardinal sin.
1001
00:59:14.099 --> 00:59:19.880
I don't understand why in that situation we're still playing
1002
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:23.559
those type of coverages when you want the clock as
1003
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:25.840
our friend. The worst thing that can happen is if
1004
00:59:25.860 --> 00:59:29.599
you score quick. I know that's being talked about, so
1005
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:35.250
it's It's not something that isn't. I just... You know,
1006
00:59:35.309 --> 00:59:40.489
and I've talked about this, and defensively and just schematically,
1007
00:59:40.570 --> 00:59:44.010
being a little bit more of a two-shell type coverage
1008
00:59:44.409 --> 00:59:49.170
defense at times would benefit us, not just for situations,
1009
00:59:49.250 --> 00:59:53.269
but also alleviating the man-to-man at times when we're asking
1010
00:59:53.329 --> 00:59:55.909
guys to play man-to-man every single play. And it's not
1011
00:59:56.010 --> 00:59:58.659
every single play, right? But for the majority of the
1012
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:01.789
time you're playing man-to-man, you... you give breaks to guys
1013
01:00:02.030 --> 01:00:06.579
that are always in those type of it's now or never, right?
1014
01:00:06.659 --> 01:00:08.780
It's this, this one play could be the difference when
1015
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:10.420
they're playing man to man, that's what it feels like.
1016
01:00:10.539 --> 01:00:14.719
And so any chance you can alleviate that stress for
1017
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:18.099
a player too, or a snap or a situation, it's
1018
01:00:18.139 --> 01:00:23.369
big for the confidence of those players. So I think they'll, they'll,
1019
01:00:23.489 --> 01:00:26.230
they'll coach it up. I'm not, I'm not too worried
1020
01:00:26.269 --> 01:00:29.610
about it for the pressure and, Getting at the quarterback,
1021
01:00:29.630 --> 01:00:33.030
you don't always have to have sacks to affect the quarterback,
1022
01:00:33.090 --> 01:00:36.519
to affect the timing. But you have to get this
1023
01:00:36.539 --> 01:00:39.139
quarterback off the spot. You've got to hit him. Even
1024
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:40.920
though you may not sack him, if you're hitting him
1025
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:44.019
and making him think about it and speeding up his timing,
1026
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.219
that is the secondary's best friend.
1027
01:00:48.690 --> 01:00:52.949
Offensively, this Utah team was, for the first time, kind
1028
01:00:52.989 --> 01:00:54.449
of bogged down in the red zone.
1029
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:57.179
And that's been uncharacteristic.
1030
01:00:57.219 --> 01:00:59.119
They've been off to such a hot start this year.
1031
01:00:59.139 --> 01:01:04.059
They're still six for six in six games and six
1032
01:01:04.139 --> 01:01:07.280
opening drives have led to touchdowns, which is great. But
1033
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:11.250
they had three red zone trips against Colorado that resulted
1034
01:01:11.329 --> 01:01:14.829
in two field goals and a turnover instead of touchdowns.
1035
01:01:15.250 --> 01:01:18.449
which is uncharacteristic. When you watch that happen, when you
1036
01:01:18.500 --> 01:01:21.099
see it, was that a fluke, you think? Was that
1037
01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:24.559
something Colorado did that was super special? Is there any
1038
01:01:24.739 --> 01:01:27.420
reason to believe they won't be able to get back
1039
01:01:27.460 --> 01:01:28.119
to the old ways?
1040
01:01:30.909 --> 01:01:34.090
I think it's twofold. Like, yeah, could the execution have
1041
01:01:34.110 --> 01:01:38.730
been better? Yeah, could maybe the red zone plan be better? Obviously,
1042
01:01:38.750 --> 01:01:42.730
we didn't execute and score. So as a coach, you're
1043
01:01:42.809 --> 01:01:46.190
going to look, all right, well, what– Why wasn't the
1044
01:01:46.230 --> 01:01:48.170
plan the way it was? What could I have done
1045
01:01:48.230 --> 01:01:51.690
differently and maybe put our players in a better position, right?
1046
01:01:52.429 --> 01:01:54.320
And then you got to give credit to Colorado. Like,
1047
01:01:54.380 --> 01:01:56.500
we talked about it. We didn't talk about it last
1048
01:01:56.539 --> 01:01:59.579
week because I didn't come on, but everyone knew and
1049
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:03.280
the stats showed that Colorado had a really good defense.
1050
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:05.420
They had a really good front. They create negative plays.
1051
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:10.980
Tons of TFLs. And you knew that it was going
1052
01:02:11.019 --> 01:02:13.780
to be a good challenge for us. And it was, right?
1053
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:14.139
Like, we.
1054
01:02:15.110 --> 01:02:18.320
We still put up enough points to win, right? It
1055
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.679
was under our average, yeah. Could it have been more easily? Yeah,
1056
01:02:21.699 --> 01:02:23.739
it could have been. But, hey, tip your hat to
1057
01:02:23.780 --> 01:02:27.199
your opponent sometimes. It's okay to do that while also
1058
01:02:28.429 --> 01:02:30.369
understanding that we could have played better. So do I
1059
01:02:30.429 --> 01:02:33.570
think– I don't think it's going to be a problem.
1060
01:02:33.630 --> 01:02:37.289
I think when you look at Houston's defense, their run
1061
01:02:37.329 --> 01:02:43.530
defense is– Their run defense, is it good in their
1062
01:02:43.550 --> 01:02:46.090
pass defense, or is it flopped? I can't remember.
1063
01:02:47.250 --> 01:02:50.250
Houston's run defense is good. Their pass defense is bad.
1064
01:02:51.230 --> 01:02:56.599
Okay. So neither is, I think, to the level of
1065
01:02:56.699 --> 01:03:01.639
Colorado as a whole. So I think we just got
1066
01:03:01.659 --> 01:03:04.639
to understand what we are and how you score in
1067
01:03:04.659 --> 01:03:08.409
the red zone. It's creating new line of scrimmage, moving
1068
01:03:08.449 --> 01:03:11.210
people off the ball. being sound in the run game
1069
01:03:11.389 --> 01:03:14.230
and then having those, those plays drawn up for the
1070
01:03:14.269 --> 01:03:17.250
low red and, and, and got to have a situations
1071
01:03:17.269 --> 01:03:19.789
that we execute, which we've done all year. So they're
1072
01:03:19.809 --> 01:03:21.940
going to, they're going to be fine. They're going to,
1073
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.440
I'm not, I'm not really worried about it. I'm more
1074
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:29.320
concerned with how we stop Houston's offense and that quarterback
1075
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:33.300
and that what they got going over there. Cause I
1076
01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:35.940
think it could potentially get into a back and forth game.
1077
01:03:36.739 --> 01:03:38.719
I'd rather not, but this is going to be a
1078
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:43.190
real test and really see if we're a championship playoff
1079
01:03:43.230 --> 01:03:44.710
caliber team or if we're not.
1080
01:03:45.809 --> 01:03:48.750
How much do you alter your defensive game plan to
1081
01:03:48.809 --> 01:03:53.730
accommodate for a player, especially when that player is the quarterback?
1082
01:03:54.210 --> 01:03:58.789
Because it feels like Wegman, he's going to beat you
1083
01:03:58.809 --> 01:04:00.369
with his arm, and if he doesn't beat you with
1084
01:04:00.409 --> 01:04:03.610
his arm and you're great in coverage, but you're playing
1085
01:04:03.650 --> 01:04:06.610
man and you're, you know, Your hand is in somebody's
1086
01:04:06.650 --> 01:04:09.070
hip pocket and your eyes are on the coverage. He's
1087
01:04:09.090 --> 01:04:10.550
just going to be like, oh, nobody's looking at me.
1088
01:04:10.570 --> 01:04:13.329
I'm going to take off and run. So there's a
1089
01:04:13.369 --> 01:04:15.570
lot of ways that he can hurt you. How much
1090
01:04:15.590 --> 01:04:18.150
do you alter your game plan in order to accommodate
1091
01:04:18.269 --> 01:04:20.760
just him? Because you can spy, you can do some
1092
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:23.260
other different things, but then you're getting out of what
1093
01:04:23.300 --> 01:04:23.920
we just talked about.
1094
01:04:23.940 --> 01:04:25.559
You're getting out of your defensive identity.
1095
01:04:27.659 --> 01:04:33.260
Yeah, it's obviously a huge, huge challenge. And, like, listen,
1096
01:04:33.300 --> 01:04:36.800
we play some top-notch quarterbacks. over the last decade. So
1097
01:04:37.059 --> 01:04:42.440
this isn't, this isn't something that's new. We've had success
1098
01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:46.230
and we've also have not had success. So looking at
1099
01:04:46.269 --> 01:04:49.010
the history and how we fared in those games is
1100
01:04:49.050 --> 01:04:53.449
something that I would revisit. And I'm sure they've looked
1101
01:04:53.570 --> 01:04:56.400
at just as a schematical point of what has been good,
1102
01:04:56.460 --> 01:04:59.219
what hasn't. Obviously the offenses are different, but when you're
1103
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:03.929
playing a really good quarterback with, talented guys on the perimeter,
1104
01:05:04.809 --> 01:05:08.699
some things have worked, some things haven't. Really identifying that
1105
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:13.559
and you've got to mix it up. I'm a big
1106
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:19.300
proponent of disguising and two-shell coverage and not letting the
1107
01:05:19.340 --> 01:05:24.710
quarterback know what you're in pre-snap. I've said that my
1108
01:05:24.750 --> 01:05:29.030
whole career. I've said that on here. That's nothing new.
1109
01:05:29.090 --> 01:05:33.340
It's not like I'm getting after our Utah Utes defense.
1110
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:35.539
That's not what I'm saying. Just that's who I am
1111
01:05:35.619 --> 01:05:37.360
in my core. If I ever coach in college, that's
1112
01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:40.039
what would be my defense, right, or a head coach.
1113
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:44.199
That's just who I am. So you've got to understand
1114
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:48.280
when pre-stab you see certain coverages, it's easy for a
1115
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:51.099
quarterback to get through the progression and identify where he
1116
01:05:51.139 --> 01:05:54.199
wants to go with the concept. Does that make sense?
1117
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:58.780
So for a quarterback and what I would hopefully see
1118
01:05:58.940 --> 01:06:02.420
on Friday night or Saturday night, is not showing the,
1119
01:06:02.900 --> 01:06:07.239
the picture. So after the snap, Speaker 0.
1120
01:06:06.190 --> 01:06:08.789
7, Eric Weddle is our guest here on the Sean
1121
01:06:08.829 --> 01:06:12.190
O'Connell show, talking all things, Utah football coming off of Colorado,
1122
01:06:12.250 --> 01:06:16.429
when heading into this Houston matchup, a college game day,
1123
01:06:16.449 --> 01:06:20.170
you've had some experience with college game day and they're back.
1124
01:06:21.690 --> 01:06:25.010
So how do you make it not a distraction for
1125
01:06:25.030 --> 01:06:25.469
the players?
1126
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:33.000
Honestly, I mean, it shouldn't be because you're not involved.
1127
01:06:33.820 --> 01:06:37.519
You stick with your routine. You know they're there on campus,
1128
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:41.719
but you're not involved with it. So I think it's
1129
01:06:41.780 --> 01:06:45.679
always just the excitement that eyes are on us, they're
1130
01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:50.139
on our school, they're seeing what amazing university we are,
1131
01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:53.300
the city of Salt Lake, the people. I think we
1132
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:56.380
recognize that. You recognize that as a player, but I
1133
01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:58.679
never felt it was a distraction. It was more so
1134
01:06:58.739 --> 01:07:01.579
like hey, the whole country is going to be watching us.
1135
01:07:01.619 --> 01:07:04.119
Let's go play great and show what we're all about.
1136
01:07:04.659 --> 01:07:09.420
And sometimes that pressure or that distraction can hinder players
1137
01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:12.889
or a team. But I think overall we've handled this
1138
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:19.250
moment pretty well, and I think it's a great opportunity
1139
01:07:19.329 --> 01:07:22.369
to go be us. And I'm sure Coach Scali is
1140
01:07:22.389 --> 01:07:24.050
saying the same thing. We don't need to be anybody
1141
01:07:24.090 --> 01:07:27.159
but ourselves, and our best is good enough. And so
1142
01:07:27.179 --> 01:07:28.599
let's go show the world what we're about.
1143
01:07:31.420 --> 01:07:34.780
Biggest game of the college football season so far took
1144
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:39.340
place down in Provo last week and came down to
1145
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:41.739
the last play of the game that ultimately should not
1146
01:07:41.780 --> 01:07:44.039
have been the last play of the game, according to
1147
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:48.280
the clock, which is crazy that twice this year there's
1148
01:07:48.300 --> 01:07:50.730
been a dispute over how many seconds are left, whether
1149
01:07:50.750 --> 01:07:53.809
there's one or there's zero. Western Michigan, Michigan, and now
1150
01:07:53.849 --> 01:07:58.599
BYU Notre Dame. And I've asked everyone this question. The
1151
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:04.360
correct football outcome for the end-of-game scenario in Notre Dame-BYU
1152
01:08:04.699 --> 01:08:10.050
is A, game ends as it was, and BYU gets
1153
01:08:10.110 --> 01:08:14.070
the win that they earned. B, pass interference flag should
1154
01:08:14.090 --> 01:08:17.189
have come in there. C, you don't have to throw
1155
01:08:17.210 --> 01:08:19.449
a flag, but Notre Dame gets one more snap.
1156
01:08:20.609 --> 01:08:21.409
Which one do you take?
1157
01:08:22.789 --> 01:08:25.810
I'm taking A because that's what happened, and I don't.
1158
01:08:27.109 --> 01:08:30.560
I don't really concern or, or talk, you know, like, okay,
1159
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:34.420
go back in time. Do I think that, but now
1160
01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:36.699
if you're really like, you're really going to ask me,
1161
01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:40.060
I don't, you know, like there's one second on the clock. Right.
1162
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:43.399
And did they go back and see when the ball
1163
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:47.319
actually hit that it turned zero and on a different clock,
1164
01:08:47.340 --> 01:08:51.890
like nobody knows, it doesn't really matter. BYU outplayed Notre Dame.
1165
01:08:52.050 --> 01:08:54.289
It shouldn't have been close. They were the better team.
1166
01:08:55.109 --> 01:08:59.399
And so, yeah, like, I look at it in that retrospect. Yeah,
1167
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:01.180
if I'm a Notre Dame fan, I'm like, damn, I'm
1168
01:09:01.220 --> 01:09:05.079
probably pissed off. But just unbiasedly and seeing it during
1169
01:09:05.100 --> 01:09:07.640
the game, seeing how they called that game in the
1170
01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:11.489
second half, I 100% agree why they didn't throw the flag.
1171
01:09:11.510 --> 01:09:13.590
And I didn't think it was really warranted anyways with
1172
01:09:13.609 --> 01:09:17.189
the ball placement and him widening so far to the sideline. Like,
1173
01:09:17.229 --> 01:09:19.710
I thought it was good on good. They called those
1174
01:09:19.750 --> 01:09:22.590
tiki-tac penalties throughout the first half. They tightened it up
1175
01:09:22.609 --> 01:09:28.930
in the second half. And what I was most impressed
1176
01:09:28.970 --> 01:09:36.020
with was how BYU handled, like they physically, I don't
1177
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:39.020
want to say manually, but they matched up with Notre Dame,
1178
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:42.479
which I was really surprised. I thought there would be
1179
01:09:42.539 --> 01:09:48.399
a disadvantage for BYU in the trenches, the physicality, the athleticism.
1180
01:09:49.250 --> 01:09:52.489
And I actually thought BYU was more than them, which
1181
01:09:53.289 --> 01:09:56.069
it showed. I mean, anyone that watched in person, you
1182
01:09:56.109 --> 01:09:58.949
could tell, like, they were the better team. They were
1183
01:09:59.020 --> 01:10:01.899
a better coach. They out-executed them. You take away the
1184
01:10:01.939 --> 01:10:05.760
muff punt and the fake punt inside their own 30, like,
1185
01:10:06.220 --> 01:10:09.699
that's a two. I bet they win by 20, the
1186
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:13.510
way the game was. So, BYU is going to be
1187
01:10:13.550 --> 01:10:16.050
a tough team, man. And as of right now, I
1188
01:10:16.069 --> 01:10:18.449
think they're the better team. If we're looking at the
1189
01:10:18.489 --> 01:10:21.550
Big 12 after this Saturday, we're going to know where
1190
01:10:21.590 --> 01:10:27.329
we stand, and I'll have a better inclination of that
1191
01:10:27.390 --> 01:10:29.409
game in a few weeks that I'll be at, and
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01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:32.239
we'll be representing the U all day, all every day.
1193
01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:35.899
But it was an impressive win, man. It really was,
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01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:38.079
and it was great for the conference. It really was
1195
01:10:38.140 --> 01:10:40.539
to now have the opportunity to have that win on
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01:10:40.939 --> 01:10:46.439
BYU's resume and that 11-1 or potentially a 10-2, being
1197
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:49.220
12 champ, we can get multiple teams in the playoffs,
1198
01:10:49.260 --> 01:10:49.880
which is huge.
1199
01:10:51.420 --> 01:10:55.329
How come people on the internet are trying to place
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01:10:55.390 --> 01:10:59.789
you in a BYU celebration throwing up the Y with
1201
01:11:00.689 --> 01:11:03.350
any random bearded dude in the picture?
1202
01:11:04.149 --> 01:11:09.720
You know, the internet is crazy, and at least I
1203
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:12.399
can defend myself. You know, like, I can get up
1204
01:11:12.420 --> 01:11:15.739
there and, and, and dispute anything that's not true. Like
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01:11:15.810 --> 01:11:17.850
I did once I saw it, I was like, guys,
1206
01:11:18.409 --> 01:11:20.850
that's a hundred percent, not me. And I would never, ever,
1207
01:11:21.130 --> 01:11:25.689
ever throw up the why in public. Like, okay, that's not,
1208
01:11:25.829 --> 01:11:28.409
that's not something I would ever do. I did it
1209
01:11:28.449 --> 01:11:32.689
when my, my daughter decided that she's going to BYU,
1210
01:11:32.750 --> 01:11:35.430
like to support her. But I'm telling you right now,
1211
01:11:35.470 --> 01:11:38.670
you'll never see me on a field for BYU unless
1212
01:11:38.729 --> 01:11:41.779
like my son was playing there. Right. Like that's, I
1213
01:11:41.819 --> 01:11:44.579
have respect for my Utes, but I also have respect
1214
01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:47.680
for BYU. So we watched the rush. I was trying
1215
01:11:47.699 --> 01:11:50.640
to find out where Brooklyn was in the chaos. And
1216
01:11:50.659 --> 01:11:53.659
then literally, like, five minutes into the rush in the field,
1217
01:11:53.689 --> 01:11:56.050
we left. Like, we were already out of the stadium. So,
1218
01:11:58.029 --> 01:12:01.310
you know, it's just cool. It's fans being crazy, which
1219
01:12:01.350 --> 01:12:05.380
we love. We're crazy in our own right. But anyone
1220
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:09.619
that knows me knows I would never– ever be doing
1221
01:12:09.659 --> 01:12:10.319
something like that.
1222
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.180
You got to watch out with the AI stuff these days, obviously.
1223
01:12:14.739 --> 01:12:16.819
Oh, geez. I know nothing's safe anymore.
1224
01:12:17.619 --> 01:12:21.029
What is the NFL group chat saying about the way
1225
01:12:21.050 --> 01:12:24.989
that the Philadelphia Eagles handled the blood clot situation with
1226
01:12:25.050 --> 01:12:28.729
Jalen hurts? Like I sometimes roll my eyes at all
1227
01:12:28.770 --> 01:12:32.189
the player safety stuff because, you know, it's like fans
1228
01:12:32.210 --> 01:12:35.029
don't actually care if a guy plays when he's concussed,
1229
01:12:35.449 --> 01:12:38.960
everyone tries to get on a high horse about it. But, but,
1230
01:12:39.100 --> 01:12:42.640
but this one, this one is like really scary. Blood
1231
01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.680
clots in your lungs. You're staying up for 36 hours.
1232
01:12:46.180 --> 01:12:47.939
And then the team's like, yeah, but you're cool. Go
1233
01:12:47.970 --> 01:12:50.710
play a football game. But what are the NFL players
1234
01:12:50.750 --> 01:12:51.350
saying about this?
1235
01:12:52.930 --> 01:12:58.670
Oh man, that, that whole story is pretty interesting and wild.
1236
01:12:59.189 --> 01:13:03.100
And I don't know, like I haven't read up fully
1237
01:13:03.109 --> 01:13:05.479
on all the stuff that's come on. Initially.
1238
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:06.560
I read that.
1239
01:13:07.170 --> 01:13:07.689
When they.
1240
01:13:10.229 --> 01:13:12.930
First identified the blood clot in his calf, that they
1241
01:13:12.970 --> 01:13:17.159
said or told him that playing was actually better for it.
1242
01:13:17.170 --> 01:13:19.930
I don't know if that was any true or not,
1243
01:13:20.149 --> 01:13:25.189
but playing the game is something that, like, as a player,
1244
01:13:25.220 --> 01:13:27.640
you've got to remember, like, as a player, we don't
1245
01:13:27.699 --> 01:13:31.880
know anything from anything other than I play football, X's
1246
01:13:31.939 --> 01:13:34.939
and O's, like, this is what I do. So if
1247
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:38.500
a doctor says, yeah, you're good to play, then okay,
1248
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:41.300
I'm good to play. Like, let's rock. So, and then
1249
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:44.779
if it's borderline, and, you know, we've all had in
1250
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:48.789
history with doctors and teams, if it's borderline, then you're
1251
01:13:48.810 --> 01:13:51.149
going to be like, all right, I'm playing. Like, this
1252
01:13:51.329 --> 01:13:54.890
is just what I do. Now, as serious as this was,
1253
01:13:54.909 --> 01:13:58.300
I don't know if, I don't know how they allowed it,
1254
01:13:59.649 --> 01:14:03.850
but they did. And now, like, gosh, his career and
1255
01:14:03.890 --> 01:14:06.869
health is in jeopardy, so I just hope he's going
1256
01:14:06.890 --> 01:14:13.369
to be okay, for one. But two, everyone has to remember, like,
1257
01:14:13.430 --> 01:14:18.350
they don't really care about you. They care about winning
1258
01:14:18.380 --> 01:14:22.560
football games. And, you know, the game will go on.
1259
01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:24.939
They'll find a new player to replace Hurts and get
1260
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:29.359
through the season. Like, the NFL will never stop, right? Like,
1261
01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:32.579
they'll just... The next guy's up. And then this will
1262
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:35.420
get glossed over, and everyone will forget talking about it
1263
01:14:35.460 --> 01:14:39.720
because of all the gambling and the fantasy football and this, that,
1264
01:14:39.739 --> 01:14:42.100
and the other. And hopefully they get to the bottom
1265
01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:45.369
of it because if there was a mistake, that person
1266
01:14:45.390 --> 01:14:49.270
needs to be fired, and things need to be made
1267
01:14:49.310 --> 01:14:50.630
just for that mistake.
1268
01:14:51.859 --> 01:14:56.020
What is the craziest teammate versus teammate dispute that you
1269
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:59.829
were ever close to or witnessed? I don't know if
1270
01:14:59.850 --> 01:15:01.130
you heard about what happened.
1271
01:15:00.890 --> 01:15:03.569
In Tennessee with a.
1272
01:15:03.869 --> 01:15:06.550
Boy going out to the car to get a gun.
1273
01:15:07.310 --> 01:15:09.409
But what's the craziest one that you were around?
1274
01:15:09.430 --> 01:15:15.470
I mean, what is going on with people's minds? We've
1275
01:15:15.489 --> 01:15:19.189
always handled disputes in the locker room. And I've seen fights.
1276
01:15:19.409 --> 01:15:25.189
I've seen fights. arguments, nothing more than hashing it out
1277
01:15:25.260 --> 01:15:29.279
in the locker room, especially as grown men. That gets handled.
1278
01:15:29.300 --> 01:15:32.960
This is old school. Now, new school, it's way different now.
1279
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:36.979
I don't know. It's like social media fighting instead of
1280
01:15:37.020 --> 01:15:41.579
just hanging like men and talking face-to-face. So I've seen that.
1281
01:15:41.699 --> 01:15:46.390
I've seen over, you know, card playing, gambling amongst each other.
1282
01:15:47.869 --> 01:15:51.510
and money being owed, that could get pretty tenacious and
1283
01:15:52.109 --> 01:15:58.890
heightened between adults and males. But nothing to the extent
1284
01:15:58.949 --> 01:16:01.090
of going to get a gun and wanting to shoot
1285
01:16:01.149 --> 01:16:07.850
someone over whatever happened. Like, that is crazy, and he
1286
01:16:07.890 --> 01:16:11.319
needs help because that's not– I mean, I was telling
1287
01:16:11.340 --> 01:16:16.390
one of my assistants, like, that's premeditative, pre– Did I
1288
01:16:16.430 --> 01:16:17.750
say it right? Premeditated?
1289
01:16:17.810 --> 01:16:19.229
Premeditated, yeah, yeah.
1290
01:16:19.609 --> 01:16:23.020
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, hold on, man. You brought a gun,
1291
01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:26.119
which is against the rules. Like, you could get fired
1292
01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:35.220
and reprimanded for bringing a firearm on NFL, like, boundaries. Like,
1293
01:16:35.380 --> 01:16:36.979
as soon as you drive into the parking lot of
1294
01:16:37.020 --> 01:16:39.729
an NFL facility, we have certain rules. Like, you can't
1295
01:16:39.750 --> 01:16:41.930
do this, you can't do that. So bringing a firearm
1296
01:16:42.069 --> 01:16:49.439
in your car on the... NFL landscape or whatever, like
1297
01:16:49.460 --> 01:16:52.560
that's already, you're already breaking a rule. Now you're, you,
1298
01:16:52.659 --> 01:16:56.810
you're doing it to her somewhat like that's, that's bad ball. You,
1299
01:16:56.850 --> 01:17:00.569
you got, you got issues and I don't, I wouldn't be,
1300
01:17:00.590 --> 01:17:03.029
I don't want him as a teammate, let alone someone
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01:17:03.069 --> 01:17:03.449
around me.
1302
01:17:04.329 --> 01:17:07.970
Pretty, pretty crazy. Pretty nuts.
1303
01:17:08.829 --> 01:17:12.050
Robert Sala has, You know, he stood at the podium
1304
01:17:12.109 --> 01:17:15.130
and spoke to the guy's character and said, this is
1305
01:17:15.149 --> 01:17:17.609
a cry for help. This is not a criminal act.
1306
01:17:17.689 --> 01:17:19.750
And I was kind of surprised by his comment there.
1307
01:17:20.789 --> 01:17:23.609
Yeah. Hey, Coach Sala, like, if you really believed in
1308
01:17:23.630 --> 01:17:25.869
this kid and knew he had something wrong, then why
1309
01:17:25.890 --> 01:17:29.729
didn't you help him? Like, we're so after the fact.
1310
01:17:30.689 --> 01:17:32.779
I think he said, and that could be totally wrong,
1311
01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:36.260
but I think he said that he had been battling
1312
01:17:36.300 --> 01:17:42.529
some things internally. Well, if that is the case, like, what,
1313
01:17:42.770 --> 01:17:46.609
what are you doing? You're, you have people, many people
1314
01:17:46.670 --> 01:17:51.140
that are required, not required, but there to help guys
1315
01:17:51.180 --> 01:17:53.920
that are going through things like that. And you, you
1316
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:56.020
basically were like, just gloss it over. So do you
1317
01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:58.779
really care about the kid? I don't know. Like, I
1318
01:17:59.180 --> 01:18:00.779
think you're trying to stay face and try to say
1319
01:18:00.819 --> 01:18:03.649
what the kid is, but this kid has some serious
1320
01:18:03.710 --> 01:18:05.369
issues with them. So you're like going to bat, like
1321
01:18:05.409 --> 01:18:07.310
you're willing to put your name on this kid who
1322
01:18:07.350 --> 01:18:08.470
just tried to kill a teammate.
1323
01:18:09.069 --> 01:18:09.510
I got it.
1324
01:18:10.189 --> 01:18:13.149
I don't know about that, babe. I think you're, you're,
1325
01:18:13.829 --> 01:18:15.989
you're stepping down the wrong street and putting your name
1326
01:18:16.069 --> 01:18:19.350
on somebody's character. Like you're, you're really going to have
1327
01:18:19.369 --> 01:18:21.699
to vouch for this kid's character after he tried to
1328
01:18:21.739 --> 01:18:23.699
go to his car to grab a gun and kill
1329
01:18:23.739 --> 01:18:29.460
a teammate. Hello. Does anyone else see a problem with this?
1330
01:18:30.020 --> 01:18:37.399
It wouldn't be me, but my goodness. You NFL guys
1331
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:39.439
are in a different world, man. That's crazy stuff.
1332
01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:42.569
I guess so. I guess so. Like, we do live
1333
01:18:42.609 --> 01:18:44.189
in our own little world. Like, we don't know what's
1334
01:18:44.210 --> 01:18:47.390
going on in the real world. And that's true. Like,
1335
01:18:47.409 --> 01:18:48.560
we don't know what's going on in the.
1336
01:18:50.060 --> 01:18:52.460
You know, the world. Like, are we in, are we,
1337
01:18:52.979 --> 01:18:55.479
are we like in a war? Are we not? Who's
1338
01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:56.100
the president?
1339
01:18:56.140 --> 01:18:57.180
Like, we don't, we don't know.
1340
01:18:57.239 --> 01:19:00.250
Like we're, we're just, we're just going at our own pace. So,
1341
01:19:01.289 --> 01:19:04.789
but this man, you're tripping.
1342
01:19:05.170 --> 01:19:05.489
Yeah.
1343
01:19:05.670 --> 01:19:08.210
Gnarly stuff. All right, man.
1344
01:19:08.369 --> 01:19:11.010
Appreciate your time. We'll cut you loose. Good luck against
1345
01:19:11.109 --> 01:19:15.189
Mission Hills. Go kill the Grizzlies or whatever you're.
1346
01:19:15.100 --> 01:19:17.260
Supposed to say. We're going to get the Grizzlies. We
1347
01:19:17.270 --> 01:19:19.699
got them. All right. See you, brother.
1348
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:20.340
See you, dude.
1349
01:19:20.619 --> 01:19:24.560
That's Eric Weddle, the Utah football legend, the NFL veteran.
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01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:29.579
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give some context to what I just asked Eric Weddle about.
1365
01:20:16.779 --> 01:20:19.640
Robert Sala went to the podium to talk about an
1366
01:20:19.699 --> 01:20:24.119
incident that happened after a Tennessee Titans practice where defensive
1367
01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:29.399
tackle Jordan Elliott and JC Latham, they're starting offensive tackle.
1368
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:32.270
Apparently got into a bit of a dispute that Robert,
1369
01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:36.680
escalated to the point where Jordan Elliott took his pads off,
1370
01:20:37.590 --> 01:20:40.010
went out into the parking lot, grabbed a gun out
1371
01:20:40.029 --> 01:20:43.789
of his car, turned around to come back into the facility,
1372
01:20:43.810 --> 01:20:50.449
and we assume to confront J.C. Latham, and he was
1373
01:20:50.850 --> 01:20:55.449
intercepted by one of his fellow defensive tackles, Jonathan Franklin Myers,
1374
01:20:55.770 --> 01:20:59.300
and he was able to de-escalate the situation, talk the
1375
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:05.180
whole thing down, and nobody got hurt. So good news there.
1376
01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:10.380
JC Latham has since been asked about it. By the way,
1377
01:21:10.420 --> 01:21:12.050
the Titans released Jordan Elliott.
1378
01:21:12.060 --> 01:21:12.550
They cut him.
1379
01:21:12.939 --> 01:21:14.770
Robert Sala then went to the podium and said, hey,
1380
01:21:14.810 --> 01:21:17.689
if anyone needs a good D tackle, you should sign
1381
01:21:17.710 --> 01:21:20.130
this kid. He's an awesome kid. He's an awesome football player.
1382
01:21:20.750 --> 01:21:23.250
And this was a cry for help, not a criminal act.
1383
01:21:24.310 --> 01:21:26.510
He then referenced like, hey, maybe he's in a bad
1384
01:21:26.550 --> 01:21:29.090
head space. And you just heard Eric Weddle talking about,
1385
01:21:29.109 --> 01:21:31.270
all right, well, if you think that, then get the
1386
01:21:31.289 --> 01:21:34.850
guy some help. Instead, they're cutting him and being like
1387
01:21:35.090 --> 01:21:39.229
somebody else, you should sign him. So, you know, unfortunate situation,
1388
01:21:39.890 --> 01:21:43.210
insane to think about whatever was said or done. They
1389
01:21:43.550 --> 01:21:45.989
pushed it to that level, especially when you can.
1390
01:21:46.020 --> 01:21:46.529
Right.
1391
01:21:46.649 --> 01:21:49.520
I mean, if James and I get into an argument
1392
01:21:50.140 --> 01:21:53.039
and then we get into a physical fight here in
1393
01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:56.039
the studio, like we're both going to get fired, which
1394
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:57.000
of course I would win.
1395
01:21:58.579 --> 01:22:00.840
Well, I wasn't thinking about it in that context.
1396
01:22:01.609 --> 01:22:04.710
James wins the fight, but we both get fired because
1397
01:22:04.770 --> 01:22:09.119
like workplace violence in an office, it just doesn't make sense.
1398
01:22:09.579 --> 01:22:12.939
Workplace violence in the NFL. They could have fought as
1399
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:13.979
long as they wanted to.
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01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:14.399
Yeah.
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01:22:14.819 --> 01:22:17.560
And maybe the team like slaps them both with a
1402
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:18.539
cursory fine.
1403
01:22:18.859 --> 01:22:21.729
But they're not getting fired. They're just like, yeah, can't
1404
01:22:21.770 --> 01:22:23.449
get a, can't get weapons involved.
1405
01:22:23.590 --> 01:22:23.750
Yeah.
1406
01:22:23.789 --> 01:22:27.979
That's like, that's the line with like, sports in general,
1407
01:22:28.020 --> 01:22:33.250
but particularly a collision sport like NFL and hockey, probably.
1408
01:22:33.090 --> 01:22:36.289
Your job is to be a big, scary, violent man.
1409
01:22:36.590 --> 01:22:39.109
You can go be a big, scary, violent man. They're
1410
01:22:39.130 --> 01:22:40.989
going to be like, all right, guys, calm it down.
1411
01:22:41.029 --> 01:22:44.760
And if you don't guess what happens, they just wait
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01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:45.659
until you're done.
1413
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:45.760
Yeah.
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01:22:46.539 --> 01:22:49.899
And then maybe there's a fine. If it's super serious,
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01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:52.229
probably slap somebody with a $ 5, 000 fine.
1416
01:22:52.569 --> 01:22:52.750
Yeah.
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01:22:53.210 --> 01:22:55.130
And they're just like, okay, let it be done.
1418
01:22:55.670 --> 01:22:58.949
And look, I know, I know for a fact that
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01:22:58.989 --> 01:23:01.670
this has happened at BYU, that this has happened at
1420
01:23:01.789 --> 01:23:05.449
Utah where players get into fist fights, like real ones,
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01:23:05.550 --> 01:23:08.260
not even just on the field, slapping each other in
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01:23:08.300 --> 01:23:08.680
the helmet.
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01:23:08.729 --> 01:23:10.600
I'm talking about locker room incidents.
1424
01:23:11.739 --> 01:23:12.260
And guess what?
1425
01:23:13.220 --> 01:23:14.800
Everybody goes home and it's fine.
1426
01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:18.600
Sometimes they end up being closer friends and teammates because
1427
01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:24.239
of it. This case is nuts. So Tennessee Titans have
1428
01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:26.800
cut Jordan Elliott. This is my favorite thing about it.
1429
01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:28.739
J.C.
1430
01:23:28.810 --> 01:23:33.829
Latham, the tackle, the offensive tackle, who was on potentially
1431
01:23:33.869 --> 01:23:36.029
the receiving end of a gunshot, or at least the
1432
01:23:36.090 --> 01:23:38.090
threat of a gunshot, he.
1433
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:41.960
He answered, he's just like, we've never had any bad
1434
01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:45.260
blood between us. In fact, their relationship was described as
1435
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:52.739
fairly friendly. And he said, no hard feelings. Only in
1436
01:23:52.819 --> 01:23:55.270
sports and probably only in football.
1437
01:23:55.750 --> 01:23:56.090
Great.
1438
01:23:56.369 --> 01:23:56.750
Great.
1439
01:23:57.229 --> 01:23:58.930
So the guy that you got in a fight with
1440
01:23:59.029 --> 01:24:01.210
at practice, and then he went to the car and
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01:24:01.689 --> 01:24:04.689
brought back his gun and somebody else intervened on your behalf.
1442
01:24:05.069 --> 01:24:07.760
You have no negative feelings towards this man? He's just like, yeah,
1443
01:24:07.770 --> 01:24:08.350
no hard feelings.
1444
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:10.949
That is terrible. That's crazy.
1445
01:24:11.130 --> 01:24:14.649
That's almost as crazy as going and grabbing a gun
1446
01:24:14.670 --> 01:24:17.590
by Jordan Elliott to say, yeah, I actually have no
1447
01:24:17.630 --> 01:24:18.220
hard feelings.
1448
01:24:18.979 --> 01:24:21.260
It's probably the smart thing to say. Actually, absolutely.
1449
01:24:21.319 --> 01:24:24.699
It's publicly, maybe that's what he's, he's like, I'm prepared
1450
01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:26.319
to say this publicly, privately.
1451
01:24:26.340 --> 01:24:29.050
I hope I never see him again. Like privately. I
1452
01:24:29.069 --> 01:24:30.909
went and bought my own gun just in case.
1453
01:24:31.529 --> 01:24:35.970
Got upped my own personal security. That's crazy. That is nuts.
1454
01:24:36.010 --> 01:24:39.310
Don't get in a fight with Jordan Elliott if you
1455
01:24:39.329 --> 01:24:39.750
ever see him.
1456
01:24:39.850 --> 01:24:42.529
I'll say this because going back to the interview with
1457
01:24:42.569 --> 01:24:44.729
Eric Weddle, which you just heard, it'll be posted up
1458
01:24:44.770 --> 01:24:49.640
on the website soon, ESPN700Sports. com and Sean O'Connell Show Podcast.
1459
01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:55.699
He kind of said back in my day, the old
1460
01:24:55.779 --> 01:24:59.579
school way was to handle it in person and in
1461
01:24:59.619 --> 01:25:03.069
the locker room, so to speak. I will say that
1462
01:25:04.710 --> 01:25:09.069
he's talking about his NFL experience, his college experience. In
1463
01:25:09.109 --> 01:25:12.130
the same era, we had Gilbert Arenas pull guns in
1464
01:25:12.170 --> 01:25:15.760
a locker room over cards in the NBA.
1465
01:25:15.850 --> 01:25:18.800
So this is not necessarily... It's not without precedent.
1466
01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:22.539
And this is not necessarily a new age thing to
1467
01:25:22.619 --> 01:25:26.680
escalate it to something potentially like this. And it's not
1468
01:25:26.739 --> 01:25:32.039
the first time it's happened with pro players. athletes, but it's, uh,
1469
01:25:32.170 --> 01:25:34.449
it's certainly rare and it's always crazy when we.
1470
01:25:34.390 --> 01:25:34.880
Hear about it.
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01:25:34.890 --> 01:25:37.869
I also think that it, that in the NBA, the
1472
01:25:38.010 --> 01:25:41.100
sort of like, well, just fight it is probably handled
1473
01:25:41.140 --> 01:25:44.000
differently than in the NFL because it's not, I mean,
1474
01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:46.479
the NBA is a very physical game, but it's not
1475
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:47.420
physical in the same way.
1476
01:25:47.460 --> 01:25:48.420
It's not as direct.
1477
01:25:48.500 --> 01:25:51.279
It's not as obviously as someone who grew up playing
1478
01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:53.500
basketball and of course didn't play at a high level,
1479
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:55.460
but someone who grew up playing basketball and did not
1480
01:25:55.500 --> 01:25:59.770
play football, it's kind of crazy to, get into a
1481
01:25:59.829 --> 01:26:02.090
fist fight or something as basketball players.
1482
01:26:02.130 --> 01:26:04.649
For sure. It's kind of crazy. It's not crazy for
1483
01:26:04.689 --> 01:26:06.750
football players. Not crazy in football.
1484
01:26:06.770 --> 01:26:08.890
Kind of crazy for basketball. And in basketball, I think
1485
01:26:08.909 --> 01:26:11.409
they handle it differently. So it's probably more likely that
1486
01:26:11.449 --> 01:26:14.760
someone's going to like have the theater kid freak out
1487
01:26:14.819 --> 01:26:17.159
and grab a gun in basketball because in football you
1488
01:26:17.180 --> 01:26:19.500
can just like, all right, let's, let's punch.
1489
01:26:19.340 --> 01:26:21.800
Each other or whatever. Let's have a go at this.
1490
01:26:22.300 --> 01:26:24.460
You know, what's funny is in like the combat sports world,
1491
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:28.350
if you do grab a gun, you're your status in
1492
01:26:28.670 --> 01:26:31.189
that world suddenly is drastically diminished.
1493
01:26:31.229 --> 01:26:32.909
And we're just like, what? You sissy.
1494
01:26:33.310 --> 01:26:35.840
You don't even believe you could win the fight. So
1495
01:26:35.859 --> 01:26:38.800
you're like, my body's a weapon. I don't need a weapon.
1496
01:26:39.539 --> 01:26:42.090
If you, if you're, if this is a story from like,
1497
01:26:42.739 --> 01:26:45.619
the UFC or the PFL and somebody goes to the
1498
01:26:45.659 --> 01:26:47.939
locker room and grabs a gun, everyone in the whole
1499
01:26:47.979 --> 01:26:49.359
sport is just like, that guy's a sissy.
1500
01:26:49.380 --> 01:26:50.500
You're just laughing at him.
1501
01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:54.430
And then that's how, that's how it deescalates the situation.
1502
01:26:54.449 --> 01:26:55.609
You just laugh in his face.
1503
01:26:55.649 --> 01:26:58.069
He knew he couldn't win a real fight. So he
1504
01:26:58.109 --> 01:26:59.909
went to get a gun and everyone's just like, you
1505
01:26:59.949 --> 01:27:00.909
actually stink, dude.
1506
01:27:00.949 --> 01:27:01.989
That actually tracks.
1507
01:27:03.170 --> 01:27:05.310
That's exactly what I would think, how I would think
1508
01:27:05.369 --> 01:27:07.000
that situation would play out.
1509
01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:12.520
All right. Brady could Chuck made his return to the
1510
01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:15.960
Ottawa senators. The Florida Panthers ended up losing six to
1511
01:27:16.079 --> 01:27:16.819
one in this game.
1512
01:27:17.020 --> 01:27:17.239
Wow.
1513
01:27:17.500 --> 01:27:20.850
Brady could Chuck is the only one who scored and
1514
01:27:20.890 --> 01:27:24.409
in hockey you just, okay. So like when the Utah,
1515
01:27:24.670 --> 01:27:28.449
when the Utah jazz, when a player moves on from
1516
01:27:28.470 --> 01:27:30.899
the Utah jazz or when a guy leaves the Utah
1517
01:27:30.909 --> 01:27:35.100
jazz for the most part, when he comes back, there's
1518
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:35.479
like a.
1519
01:27:35.500 --> 01:27:40.880
An affection. There's like a, .
1520
01:27:40.220 --> 01:27:45.020

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01:27:45.020 --> 01:27:48.380
.
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01:27:47.899 --> 01:27:52.689

1523
01:27:52.689 --> 01:27:57.489

1524
01:27:57.489 --> 01:28:02.279

1525
01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:07.079
.
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01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:09.000
.
1527
01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:10.920
.
1528
01:28:10.439 --> 01:28:12.939
F you Brady. They were doing all of it.
1529
01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:14.000
Scoreboard.
1530
01:28:14.020 --> 01:28:17.279
Yeah, they did it all for the whole game. So
1531
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:19.760
I just want to applaud the pettiness of Ottawa senators.
1532
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:20.119
Fans.
1533
01:28:20.420 --> 01:28:21.579

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01:28:21.579 --> 01:28:23.810

1535
01:28:23.810 --> 01:28:24.880

1536
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:26.600

1537
01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:28.529

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01:28:28.529 --> 01:28:29.899
.
1539
01:28:29.810 --> 01:28:30.930

1540
01:28:30.930 --> 01:28:32.319

1541
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:33.449

1542
01:28:33.449 --> 01:28:34.529

1543
01:28:34.529 --> 01:28:35.590

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01:28:35.590 --> 01:28:37.850
.
1545
01:28:37.710 --> 01:28:38.699

1546
01:28:38.699 --> 01:28:31.489
So I might be wrong.
1547
01:28:32.090 --> 01:28:32.529
All right.
1548
01:28:32.689 --> 01:28:35.130
Let's fit in a PGA tour leaderboard update from the
1549
01:28:35.149 --> 01:28:39.270
Bermuda championship as well. You went to golf by worldwide golf.
1550
01:28:39.550 --> 01:28:42.649
They've got custom fitting happening right now. You can get
1551
01:28:42.689 --> 01:28:45.380
a $ 15 coupon just by signing up for the email
1552
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:48.760
and text alerts that they send out. So $ 15 in
1553
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:50.880
your pocket. The next time you go to, you went
1554
01:28:50.899 --> 01:28:54.760
to golf, St. George, Sandy Riverdale, Orem, Salt Lake city.
1555
01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:58.159
They've got multiple locations here in the state of Utah.
1556
01:28:58.590 --> 01:29:01.109
You went to golf by Worldwide Golf. What does the
1557
01:29:01.149 --> 01:29:05.720
leaderboard look like at this moment? I lost the tournament
1558
01:29:05.729 --> 01:29:08.779
because it's in Bermuda. I see what you did there.
1559
01:29:08.899 --> 01:29:11.460
Tony Finau maybe got lost on his way there. No,
1560
01:29:11.500 --> 01:29:16.119
that's not funny. That's not funny. Tony's not in the field.
1561
01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:18.979
He's not lost somewhere over the Atlantic Ocean or in
1562
01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:21.380
the Caribbean either. Don't worry about that. Just making a
1563
01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:25.779
Bermuda Triangle joke there. Ben Coles and Ben Silverman, Danny Walker.
1564
01:29:26.380 --> 01:29:29.300
Those are your leaders after they're all finished with their
1565
01:29:29.340 --> 01:29:33.619
first round. At eight under, tied for first there, Mackenzie Hughes,
1566
01:29:33.699 --> 01:29:37.010
Jonathan Bird, and Seamus Power.
1567
01:29:37.029 --> 01:29:38.270
There's a bigger name for you.
1568
01:29:39.210 --> 01:29:41.609
Tied for fourth, one shot off the lead at seven under,
1569
01:29:41.750 --> 01:29:43.850
tied for eighth, and rounding out the top ten, there's
1570
01:29:43.869 --> 01:29:48.409
like ten guys tied for eighth. You've got Bryce Garrett,
1571
01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:53.359
Eric Cole, Austin Smotherman. I like to call him the Smotherman.
1572
01:29:54.180 --> 01:29:58.180
Zach Blair, there's a U-Pot for a Utah player on tour.
1573
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:01.020
They're all at six under with a couple other guys
1574
01:30:01.060 --> 01:30:05.350
there as well. Tied for eighth, just two shots off
1575
01:30:05.390 --> 01:30:08.170
the lead. So no Tony Finau, and not because of
1576
01:30:08.329 --> 01:30:13.829
mysterious disappearance. He's just not playing. Zach Blair is your
1577
01:30:14.069 --> 01:30:17.239
Utah representative, representing well. Two shots off the lead. That's
1578
01:30:17.260 --> 01:30:19.800
your PGA Tour leaderboard update brought to you by Uintah Golf.
1579
01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:22.560
All right, we'll take a quick one here.
1580
01:30:22.739 --> 01:30:26.560
Injury update is out for Utah versus Houston, also for
1581
01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:30.239
BYU versus UCF. We'll give you a status update on
1582
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:34.489
Kelvin Obot, according to the official Utah injury report. That's
1583
01:30:34.569 --> 01:30:36.010
next on ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. I can feel
1584
01:30:36.369 --> 01:30:37.189
it coming in the.
1585
01:30:38.909 --> 01:30:39.949
Air tonight.
1586
01:30:46.810 --> 01:30:49.850
You are listening to the sean o'connell show your source
1587
01:30:49.869 --> 01:30:53.090
for the best youth football coverage here's oc from the
1588
01:30:53.170 --> 01:31:01.079
murdoch hyundai studio of espn 700 at 92.1 fm coming up.
1589
01:31:01.060 --> 01:31:05.920
In the one o'clock hour dishing with dev devin dampier
1590
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:10.369
qb1 from the university of utah in anticipation of Houston
1591
01:31:10.430 --> 01:31:12.930
coming into town and also reacting to what happened with
1592
01:31:12.989 --> 01:31:16.930
Colorado that ultimately was a Utah win. And then at 1.30,
1593
01:31:16.930 --> 01:31:21.420
Shreyas Lada from the Salt Lake Tribune, the new Utah
1594
01:31:21.460 --> 01:31:24.819
Jazz insider from the Trib, will join us on the show.
1595
01:31:24.939 --> 01:31:25.840
Looking forward to that.
1596
01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:32.409
We'll give away Nickelback tickets in Topical Trivia at about 1.45.
1597
01:31:32.409 --> 01:31:35.569
Right now, time for an advocate's injury update. If you've
1598
01:31:35.590 --> 01:31:39.489
been injured in an accident, auto accident, scooter accident, biking accident,
1599
01:31:39.550 --> 01:31:42.210
walking accident, sledding accident.
1600
01:31:42.270 --> 01:31:43.069
Maybe you have a case.
1601
01:31:43.869 --> 01:31:49.739
Call the advocates at 801-355-5550. You deserve an advocate. The
1602
01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:55.199
Utah injury report against Houston. Linebacker Preston Pitts is out.
1603
01:31:56.579 --> 01:31:59.539
You have not spoken about or seen much of him.
1604
01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:04.369
Kelvin Obott. We saw the ankle injury last week. He
1605
01:32:04.449 --> 01:32:07.369
is out for this game against Houston. That is a loss.
1606
01:32:07.449 --> 01:32:10.550
He's a true freshman. He's really stepped up, and he's
1607
01:32:10.590 --> 01:32:13.949
been the starting left tackle, excuse me, the starting left
1608
01:32:14.010 --> 01:32:17.329
guard for several weeks now for this University of Utah
1609
01:32:17.350 --> 01:32:18.109
football team.
1610
01:32:19.310 --> 01:32:21.789
He's played very well. He is.
1611
01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:24.720
An incredible athlete.
1612
01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:28.100
I mean, this guy is just scratching the surface now
1613
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:30.760
of what he's going to end up being for this
1614
01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:34.010
Utah football team. I think he probably bumps out to
1615
01:32:34.050 --> 01:32:39.569
starting left tackle in the 2027 season when zero way
1616
01:32:39.609 --> 01:32:42.260
Williams has the option to move on and he's on
1617
01:32:42.310 --> 01:32:45.340
draft boards now. So That's probably going to be the
1618
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:48.460
most likely outcome there. But Kelvin Obot being out against
1619
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:53.119
Houston is a loss. It's not a wildly catastrophic loss
1620
01:32:53.180 --> 01:32:56.819
because this offensive line through the first three weeks, especially
1621
01:32:56.859 --> 01:32:58.600
played so many different combinations.
1622
01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:01.899
And we talked about this a little bit yesterday.
1623
01:33:02.770 --> 01:33:05.569
Salato Moyai has been, he's played a lot of football
1624
01:33:05.590 --> 01:33:08.979
for the university of Utah, not only this year already,
1625
01:33:09.060 --> 01:33:11.989
but last year he was the big body that they
1626
01:33:12.010 --> 01:33:14.510
brought in to be the extra offensive lineman in pretty
1627
01:33:14.550 --> 01:33:18.409
much every formation. So he's played all over the offensive line.
1628
01:33:18.449 --> 01:33:21.270
He's played a lot of football. I assume he's going
1629
01:33:21.289 --> 01:33:23.850
to get to start. Keith Olson is also back off
1630
01:33:23.869 --> 01:33:27.899
the injury. So that changes some things. Ike Garcia is back.
1631
01:33:28.140 --> 01:33:31.520
He's a right tackle, but maybe you could use Jefferson
1632
01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:33.779
at a guard position or vice versa if you need to.
1633
01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:36.039
So yes, it's a loss.
1634
01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:40.560
Is it, wildly catastrophic that Kelvin Obata is going to
1635
01:33:40.579 --> 01:33:43.680
be out. No, especially because it is not being talked
1636
01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:45.859
about as a season ending injury, which is the most
1637
01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:46.479
important thing.
1638
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:47.220
Yeah.
1639
01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:52.399
It's interesting that it was kind of, it's a little
1640
01:33:52.420 --> 01:33:55.020
bit cloak and dagger, like what we're used to with
1641
01:33:56.539 --> 01:34:01.180
what university Utah head coaches in particular say about injuries
1642
01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:03.520
that are not season ending. Well, we've grown accustomed to
1643
01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.539
Morgan has two, just it warrants saying he has been
1644
01:34:08.579 --> 01:34:12.590
willing to say, hey, yeah, he's hurt without it being
1645
01:34:12.619 --> 01:34:15.470
season ending, but still not given a ton of information.
1646
01:34:15.510 --> 01:34:19.510
It's interesting that Pete Thamel was able to get the
1647
01:34:19.550 --> 01:34:22.930
report that, hey, he's out before the first injury report came,
1648
01:34:22.970 --> 01:34:26.199
because that's just so foreign for us who cover University
1649
01:34:26.260 --> 01:34:28.600
of Utah. But it is worth noting that it is
1650
01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:30.609
not categorize this season ending.
1651
01:34:30.729 --> 01:34:34.090
I wonder by the way, Pete Thamel is, has access
1652
01:34:34.109 --> 01:34:36.390
to the team right now because of his involvement with
1653
01:34:36.430 --> 01:34:36.850
game day.
1654
01:34:37.439 --> 01:34:40.920
Oh yeah, of course. So yeah, he's, he's probably probably
1655
01:34:40.939 --> 01:34:41.739
boots on the ground.
1656
01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:42.500
Exactly.
1657
01:34:43.789 --> 01:34:46.529
Real quick, an offensive line question for you as someone
1658
01:34:46.569 --> 01:34:49.770
who co-hosted with an NFL offensive lineman for a long time,
1659
01:34:49.810 --> 01:34:50.390
Jeff Schwartz.
1660
01:34:50.609 --> 01:34:54.270
Also, two-time first-team all-region offensive lineman myself.
1661
01:34:54.369 --> 01:34:57.479
Oh, there you go. I forgot. My bad. Come on.
1662
01:34:58.119 --> 01:34:58.699
Go beat Diggers.
1663
01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:04.399
Ike Garcia, off of injury, he's listed and has practiced
1664
01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:08.039
and played the opposite side as a tackle. How crazy
1665
01:35:08.100 --> 01:35:10.680
is it mid-season if they felt like, hey, we need
1666
01:35:10.819 --> 01:35:13.010
an extra body at left tackle to switch like that?
1667
01:35:13.149 --> 01:35:13.600
Well....
1668
01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:19.220
He would be, he'd be playing guard guard, right? Sorry. Guard.
1669
01:35:20.180 --> 01:35:23.050
It's a big switch, especially for a guy that hasn't
1670
01:35:23.130 --> 01:35:27.630
played a ton. But the thing with this Utah offensive
1671
01:35:27.670 --> 01:35:30.529
line and Jim Harding did this and Jordan gross is
1672
01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.500
doing it right now because they were trying to figure
1673
01:35:33.539 --> 01:35:38.550
out all of these different potential combinations. A healthy version
1674
01:35:38.590 --> 01:35:42.069
of Ike Garcia will have taken snaps at guard, probably
1675
01:35:42.109 --> 01:35:43.449
at right guard rather than left guard.
1676
01:35:43.550 --> 01:35:45.409
Yeah, because he's been on the right side of the line.
1677
01:35:45.529 --> 01:35:47.210
But he will have taken snaps.
1678
01:35:48.329 --> 01:35:51.479
I honestly don't know how many practices he was fully
1679
01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:55.090
healthy for. If he has practiced it, not the end
1680
01:35:55.109 --> 01:35:56.369
of the world to have him go play it. If
1681
01:35:56.409 --> 01:35:58.590
he has not practiced it, you're not getting him up
1682
01:35:58.630 --> 01:36:01.069
to speed in a week. You just can't like.
1683
01:36:01.090 --> 01:36:02.069
He knows the playbook.
1684
01:36:02.590 --> 01:36:04.810
All these guys know all the playbook and they probably
1685
01:36:04.829 --> 01:36:08.289
know every position on the playbook with the exception of,
1686
01:36:08.510 --> 01:36:11.569
of center. I would imagine they have at least some
1687
01:36:11.630 --> 01:36:15.550
awareness of the assignment of all five guys on the line.
1688
01:36:15.569 --> 01:36:19.210
That's just how offensive line works. But I don't know
1689
01:36:19.250 --> 01:36:21.149
that that would be too big of a stretch for me.
1690
01:36:21.170 --> 01:36:21.630
Yeah.
1691
01:36:21.689 --> 01:36:26.600
Now Jefferson is, As a more experienced player, maybe you
1692
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:29.920
move him over to left guard and you let Ike
1693
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:32.340
play the position that he's been playing at right tackle.
1694
01:36:32.779 --> 01:36:33.319
Yeah.
1695
01:36:33.539 --> 01:36:36.050
If you need an extra body, I only ask that
1696
01:36:36.060 --> 01:36:41.170
just out of curiosity because you hear about, we all
1697
01:36:41.210 --> 01:36:43.180
think that, everything's.
1698
01:36:42.699 --> 01:36:45.739
Just homogenous along the offensive line, right? It's all the same.
1699
01:36:45.779 --> 01:36:49.010
They're all offensive linemen, but there, there are obviously particular
1700
01:36:49.069 --> 01:36:51.789
nuances to things, especially if you're playing on the opposite
1701
01:36:51.909 --> 01:36:54.390
side of where there might be a void.
1702
01:36:54.750 --> 01:36:55.869
And also it's worth noting.
1703
01:36:56.050 --> 01:36:58.729
He, if I Garcia is going to get reps there,
1704
01:36:58.760 --> 01:37:01.979
he's not going to be the starter. We already mentioned, uh, there,
1705
01:37:02.140 --> 01:37:04.699
they already have a solution. It's starter there without Obon.
1706
01:37:04.880 --> 01:37:05.140
Yeah.
1707
01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:06.909
So tell a soul, tell him all.
1708
01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:07.000
Yeah.
1709
01:37:07.020 --> 01:37:08.460
I was going to get the start. I would imagine.
1710
01:37:08.840 --> 01:37:13.229
Um, But there is some interchangeability, some versatility. When people
1711
01:37:13.470 --> 01:37:15.670
ask the question about how big of a deal is
1712
01:37:15.689 --> 01:37:18.640
it to go right to left, left to right, it
1713
01:37:18.859 --> 01:37:20.760
kind of depends on the person. It kind of depends
1714
01:37:20.819 --> 01:37:23.020
on the player. There's basketball guys who can shoot with
1715
01:37:23.060 --> 01:37:26.840
both hands. They can finish left and finish right. Some
1716
01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:32.430
people are not Zoolander ambi-turners. Sometimes you just can't. There
1717
01:37:32.529 --> 01:37:36.590
are people like professional snowboarders and skateboarders who are just
1718
01:37:36.750 --> 01:37:38.930
not good when they're goofy-footed.
1719
01:37:39.310 --> 01:37:39.449
Yeah.
1720
01:37:39.670 --> 01:37:42.869
Or when they're standing regular, that's, that's probably the closest
1721
01:37:42.949 --> 01:37:46.810
analogy here. Like if you are about footwork, your stance
1722
01:37:46.890 --> 01:37:48.189
is so different, right?
1723
01:37:48.529 --> 01:37:50.560
Like inverted zero way.
1724
01:37:50.609 --> 01:37:54.579
Williams starts every play with his right foot in front
1725
01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:55.180
of his left foot.
1726
01:37:55.859 --> 01:37:56.039
Right.
1727
01:37:56.060 --> 01:37:58.880
I mean, he's largely square, but his right foot is
1728
01:37:59.180 --> 01:38:00.420
slightly in front of his left foot.
1729
01:38:00.500 --> 01:38:00.739
Right.
1730
01:38:01.699 --> 01:38:04.340
Cedric Jefferson does it the opposite way. I Garcia does
1731
01:38:04.380 --> 01:38:07.939
it the opposite way, right? Your kick slide is backwards.
1732
01:38:08.100 --> 01:38:12.069
I mean, Some fighters can go Southpaw or Orthodox. I
1733
01:38:12.109 --> 01:38:15.090
was never really that good out of a Southpaw stance.
1734
01:38:15.630 --> 01:38:17.649
So if you ever watched any of my fight career
1735
01:38:17.710 --> 01:38:21.489
and shout out to whoever was texting today, that's our guy, Darius.
1736
01:38:21.609 --> 01:38:22.250
Shout out to you.
1737
01:38:22.289 --> 01:38:25.949
Shout out Darius because he watched my championship fight from
1738
01:38:25.989 --> 01:38:26.630
eight years ago.
1739
01:38:27.090 --> 01:38:29.170
They said it was the first time. Thanks for taking
1740
01:38:29.189 --> 01:38:31.350
me back down memory lane. I love that. But, like,
1741
01:38:31.590 --> 01:38:32.399
you watch that fight.
1742
01:38:32.510 --> 01:38:34.970
I think I probably throw two or three strikes out
1743
01:38:34.989 --> 01:38:37.229
of a southpaw stance just because the footwork gets weird
1744
01:38:37.270 --> 01:38:38.390
when you're moving back and forward.
1745
01:38:38.850 --> 01:38:42.909
But, like, some people can do it interchangeably. They're equally good.
1746
01:38:43.029 --> 01:38:43.789
Some people are not.
1747
01:38:43.890 --> 01:38:46.029
I don't know where Ike Garcia falls on that spectrum
1748
01:38:46.109 --> 01:38:48.949
or anyone else in this offensive line falls on that spectrum.
1749
01:38:49.010 --> 01:38:49.250
But.
1750
01:38:49.819 --> 01:38:51.300
It is different.
1751
01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:56.279
It's harder to do it the opposite way. Tonight, all
1752
01:38:56.300 --> 01:39:00.100
of you out there, brush your teeth with the opposite hand.
1753
01:39:01.279 --> 01:39:03.300
You can do it. Your teeth are still going to
1754
01:39:03.340 --> 01:39:06.979
get clean, but it's weird. It's not going to be
1755
01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:10.699
as vigorous. I'm pantomiming with my left hand as I'm
1756
01:39:10.760 --> 01:39:11.020
a righty.
1757
01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:12.460
I'm a lefty, right?
1758
01:39:12.939 --> 01:39:14.539
If when I try to brush my teeth with my
1759
01:39:14.579 --> 01:39:19.529
right arm, it's just less efficient. Like, so at lunch today,
1760
01:39:19.569 --> 01:39:23.270
you probably already had it at dinner this evening. Hold
1761
01:39:23.289 --> 01:39:26.029
your fork in the opposite hand. And that's what you're
1762
01:39:26.050 --> 01:39:29.029
asking players to do. Maybe wear a bib because it
1763
01:39:29.069 --> 01:39:29.810
might get messy.
1764
01:39:31.899 --> 01:39:32.180
Maybe.
1765
01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:33.399
All right.
1766
01:39:34.100 --> 01:39:37.340
So that's your injury report for the university of Utah, Houston.
1767
01:39:38.260 --> 01:39:41.479
Their defensive lineman, one of their best defensive lineman, Damarian Thomas,
1768
01:39:41.659 --> 01:39:42.079
is out.
1769
01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:44.239
Four others are listed as probable.
1770
01:39:45.489 --> 01:39:45.710
L.J.
1771
01:39:45.750 --> 01:39:47.329
Martin's still out for BYU.
1772
01:39:47.590 --> 01:39:51.029
So is Tommy Prasses, who gives them good depth in
1773
01:39:51.050 --> 01:39:57.220
the defensive backfield. Offensive lineman, starting offensive lineman, Kyle Svarchuk,
1774
01:39:57.460 --> 01:40:00.949
is questionable for the Cougs, but... If you could beat
1775
01:40:00.989 --> 01:40:04.590
Notre Dame without LJ Martin, you're probably fine without everybody else,
1776
01:40:05.010 --> 01:40:06.250
especially against UCF.
1777
01:40:06.449 --> 01:40:09.800
A ton more players out and are on the injury
1778
01:40:09.819 --> 01:40:13.159
report for UCF than are on the injury report for BYU.
1779
01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:16.380
But like you said, it's probably not going to matter.
1780
01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:19.500
You got to feel, you got to be feeling really
1781
01:40:19.539 --> 01:40:22.460
bulletproof if you're Kalani Sataki and company right now.
1782
01:40:24.529 --> 01:40:24.829
All right.
1783
01:40:25.939 --> 01:40:28.579
We'll take our last break of hour number two. Dishing
1784
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:32.199
with Dev is next. Don't go anywhere. QB number one
1785
01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:34.000
on the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN 700 and 92 on FM.
1786
01:40:37.170 --> 01:40:37.789
It's time to.
1787
01:40:37.770 --> 01:40:41.930
Talk to Utah quarterback Devin Dampier. This is Dishing with
1788
01:40:41.989 --> 01:40:44.789
Devin on the Sean O'Connell Show. Brought to you by
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01:40:44.890 --> 01:40:48.579
Colligan Water, Salt Lake City, America First Credit Union, and
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01:40:48.659 --> 01:40:52.279
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1791
01:40:52.340 --> 01:40:55.600
Star signal caller Devin Dampier on your home of the
1792
01:40:55.760 --> 01:40:57.560
Utes and your home for football.
1793
01:40:57.579 --> 01:40:58.340
ESPN 792.1 FM.
1794
01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:05.199
We're right in the middle of an excellent Utah football season.
1795
01:41:05.220 --> 01:41:09.560
6-0 ranked top 10 in the country. Game day performance
1796
01:41:09.619 --> 01:41:13.319
coming up. Houston coming into town. Blackout game, night game
1797
01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:16.659
at Rice Echo Stadium. And QB1 is right here in
1798
01:41:16.699 --> 01:41:20.000
studio with us. Devin Dampier for Dishing with Dev. Brought
1799
01:41:20.020 --> 01:41:22.699
to you by Culligan Water of Salt Lake City, America
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01:41:22.739 --> 01:41:25.399
First Credit Union, and Valley Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling.
1801
01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:27.899
Dev, good to have you on a Wednesday.
1802
01:41:27.930 --> 01:41:28.590
How are you, sir?
1803
01:41:28.909 --> 01:41:30.090
Good, good. We're back.
1804
01:41:30.430 --> 01:41:30.909
You're back.
1805
01:41:31.729 --> 01:41:33.609
Let's talk a little Colorado football.
1806
01:41:33.630 --> 01:41:33.970
Shall we?
1807
01:41:34.109 --> 01:41:35.770
Yeah.
1808
01:41:36.149 --> 01:41:36.710
It was a win.
1809
01:41:38.489 --> 01:41:41.449
I want to stay focused on that. Did you guys
1810
01:41:41.489 --> 01:41:44.850
get to enjoy the win? Because it was closer than
1811
01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:46.020
a lot of people thought. It was a lot more
1812
01:41:46.060 --> 01:41:48.960
hard fought. It wasn't the cleanest game you all have
1813
01:41:48.979 --> 01:41:51.579
played this year. Were you still able to enjoy that
1814
01:41:51.859 --> 01:41:53.689
as a victory and an improvement to 6-0?
1815
01:41:54.699 --> 01:41:56.800
Yeah, there's definitely a little bit of both.
1816
01:41:57.979 --> 01:42:00.619
I've talked about our standard, how we want to play,
1817
01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:02.779
how we expect to play. I don't think we met
1818
01:42:02.819 --> 01:42:06.100
that standard, but anytime you can walk out with a
1819
01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:09.729
win any week, that's adding another win without a loss
1820
01:42:10.939 --> 01:42:13.569
on your record. At the end of the day, we
1821
01:42:13.590 --> 01:42:15.710
were able to find a way to end up winning
1822
01:42:15.729 --> 01:42:18.649
that game, so we're proud that happened, but it just
1823
01:42:18.670 --> 01:42:20.229
wasn't our standard that we'd.
1824
01:42:20.069 --> 01:42:20.949
Want to play at every game.
1825
01:42:22.010 --> 01:42:25.079
Now that you've looked back on it, Is there something
1826
01:42:25.100 --> 01:42:28.579
that explains for you, at least, why the standard wasn't met? Like,
1827
01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:32.890
was it human nature? Didn't respect Colorado enough? I don't
1828
01:42:32.899 --> 01:42:35.229
want to put words in your mouth. Is there something
1829
01:42:35.250 --> 01:42:37.430
that when you look back now and you have the
1830
01:42:37.470 --> 01:42:40.090
benefit of hindsight, you say, that's why we performed.
1831
01:42:39.810 --> 01:42:41.590
The way we did? Yeah.
1832
01:42:42.090 --> 01:42:44.680
Man, I would say there's a lot of plays out
1833
01:42:44.720 --> 01:42:50.579
there where, you know, one guy was able to cause destruction,
1834
01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:53.260
I guess I could say, and that's including me as well.
1835
01:42:53.739 --> 01:42:54.260
But just.
1836
01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:57.800
Around our team, it was like 10 of us were playing,
1837
01:42:57.859 --> 01:43:00.439
and one person would lack off a little bit, and
1838
01:43:00.659 --> 01:43:03.779
that would be the difference between a 20-yard gain and
1839
01:43:04.220 --> 01:43:06.779
what should have been a touchdown. Just small things like
1840
01:43:06.819 --> 01:43:11.310
that definitely showed up. And just our red zone efficiency,
1841
01:43:11.350 --> 01:43:12.550
I feel like we're one of those teams where we
1842
01:43:12.569 --> 01:43:14.270
get in the red zone, we score almost every time.
1843
01:43:14.350 --> 01:43:17.550
So the fact that we weren't doing that, it could
1844
01:43:17.590 --> 01:43:20.810
have been 21-0 if we scored all our red zone
1845
01:43:20.829 --> 01:43:23.729
drives first quarter, but we ended up making it 13-0.
1846
01:43:23.689 --> 01:43:26.770
13 to zero where, you know, it's still a game.
1847
01:43:26.810 --> 01:43:27.829
They still feel like they're in it.
1848
01:43:28.649 --> 01:43:30.850
And that's really the worst thing you could do against
1849
01:43:30.949 --> 01:43:32.329
a team that you're better than.
1850
01:43:32.569 --> 01:43:32.810
Right.
1851
01:43:33.090 --> 01:43:34.750
You let them feel like they can hang around. You
1852
01:43:34.770 --> 01:43:36.909
let them feel like they're going to halftime like, hey,
1853
01:43:37.069 --> 01:43:39.939
this is still a game. If if you score on
1854
01:43:39.949 --> 01:43:44.220
all those drives, then Colorado's getting down on themselves. The
1855
01:43:44.260 --> 01:43:46.420
human nature takes over and it's like, oh, man, this
1856
01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:49.529
is an uphill climb. And ultimately, they stayed in it,
1857
01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:54.090
and it was a close game. But 27-24 victory, and
1858
01:43:54.109 --> 01:44:00.989
you improve to 6-0. 24 of 41, 278 yards, three touchdowns,
1859
01:44:01.590 --> 01:44:05.569
two interceptions for you. Although one of those interceptions that
1860
01:44:06.689 --> 01:44:08.239
I'll let you break it down for me, right?
1861
01:44:08.439 --> 01:44:11.020
The Utah pass. It's a pitch forward.
1862
01:44:11.539 --> 01:44:14.560
And it's a bobbled ball that still goes down as
1863
01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:16.899
an interception on you, on you.
1864
01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:18.659
That kind of sucks.
1865
01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:19.260
Yeah.
1866
01:44:19.460 --> 01:44:23.159
My, like I, I've been, I explained to my coach
1867
01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:25.930
why I was so disappointed just because that Mike, I
1868
01:44:25.949 --> 01:44:28.130
threw five picks last year. My goal this year was
1869
01:44:28.670 --> 01:44:31.789
to end up being at four. So the fact I'm
1870
01:44:31.829 --> 01:44:34.409
already at four, I'm just a little irritated. Like how
1871
01:44:34.430 --> 01:44:37.770
did I put myself in this position? So, um, I mean,
1872
01:44:37.810 --> 01:44:43.699
it comes with the game though. Uh, Yeah, sometimes plays
1873
01:44:43.739 --> 01:44:44.619
happen like that.
1874
01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:48.039
Yeah, it's one of those plays where, and we explained
1875
01:44:48.079 --> 01:44:51.310
this on Monday, right? That is an efficient play because
1876
01:44:51.350 --> 01:44:53.569
the worst-case scenario is supposed to be that if a
1877
01:44:53.590 --> 01:44:56.069
pitch is dropped, it's a forward pass, there's no fumble there,
1878
01:44:56.489 --> 01:44:57.850
and instead falls.
1879
01:44:57.670 --> 01:44:59.510
Into the lap of a D lineman of all people.
1880
01:44:59.590 --> 01:45:02.510
I don't know how it got ricocheted back to him,
1881
01:45:02.529 --> 01:45:03.010
but it did.
1882
01:45:03.810 --> 01:45:07.149
But you survived it. And look, you made a couple
1883
01:45:07.189 --> 01:45:10.439
of really important throws there. In this game, two of
1884
01:45:10.739 --> 01:45:13.199
Creed Whittemore's three catches in the game, he was three
1885
01:45:13.239 --> 01:45:17.119
catches for 88 yards, were kind of like game savers.
1886
01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:19.140
Tell me what you saw in those plays.
1887
01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:24.739
Yeah, man, the first one, you know, we were able
1888
01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:28.399
to just come out of halftime and realize that call
1889
01:45:28.420 --> 01:45:30.979
was something we wanted to get back to multiple times,
1890
01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:33.779
and it was just Creed on the outside, and he was,
1891
01:45:34.350 --> 01:45:38.529
Creed's slick fast. Like, he can move when he needs to, so.
1892
01:45:39.279 --> 01:45:40.810
He just kind of ran by him. I had a
1893
01:45:40.829 --> 01:45:42.590
little bit of pressure and just kind of gave him
1894
01:45:42.630 --> 01:45:45.510
a chance. And, you know, it landed there perfectly. And
1895
01:45:46.729 --> 01:45:49.609
the second one, I took a sack. We were backed
1896
01:45:49.710 --> 01:45:52.210
up a little bit. And Carlotta wanted to give us pressure,
1897
01:45:52.250 --> 01:45:55.750
try to get us in a third and long situation. But, again,
1898
01:45:55.869 --> 01:45:59.329
Creed's out there. Gave him a chance again. And he
1899
01:45:59.350 --> 01:46:02.670
dropped one of those passes earlier this season. So the
1900
01:46:02.689 --> 01:46:05.329
fact that he got to re-get it this game and
1901
01:46:05.529 --> 01:46:07.529
he took full advantage of it. So I'm proud of him.
1902
01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:08.470
Yeah, I had it.
1903
01:46:09.060 --> 01:46:11.279
Great game, even though it was only three catches, the
1904
01:46:11.350 --> 01:46:14.430
timing of those catches felt like it really bailed some
1905
01:46:14.470 --> 01:46:17.369
things out and you two connecting on those. I mean,
1906
01:46:17.529 --> 01:46:21.590
everyone knows that when, when the chips are down seven's
1907
01:46:21.649 --> 01:46:24.449
an option, right? Braden Pagan there, I'm sure the defense
1908
01:46:24.510 --> 01:46:26.710
is keying on him. So the fact that you have
1909
01:46:26.750 --> 01:46:30.479
that chemistry, that trust with somebody who's, you know, not
1910
01:46:30.520 --> 01:46:33.319
your number one receiver, I think ends up being important.
1911
01:46:33.020 --> 01:46:33.899
In some of those scenarios.
1912
01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:34.539
Yeah.
1913
01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:35.079
Yeah.
1914
01:46:35.119 --> 01:46:37.279
We continue to preach that in our receiver room too.
1915
01:46:37.300 --> 01:46:40.289
Like everyone, You need to be ready and expected to
1916
01:46:40.329 --> 01:46:43.270
get the ball. There's never a play where you think
1917
01:46:43.289 --> 01:46:46.149
you're a decoy route or you think you're the route
1918
01:46:46.170 --> 01:46:47.729
to get somebody else open.
1919
01:46:48.149 --> 01:46:50.930
You're a chance of getting the ball every time.
1920
01:46:50.989 --> 01:46:52.970
And just the fact that we live by that and
1921
01:46:53.229 --> 01:46:55.130
the receivers are doing a good job of it, they're
1922
01:46:55.149 --> 01:46:56.829
just ready for their opportunities when it comes.
1923
01:46:58.250 --> 01:47:00.409
Mack G is probably a better person to ask this question,
1924
01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:02.699
but I don't get to talk to him this week.
1925
01:47:02.939 --> 01:47:03.520
Bird was.
1926
01:47:04.390 --> 01:47:06.289
kind of missing in this game plan he only got
1927
01:47:06.310 --> 01:47:08.409
a few touches compared to you know usually it's kind
1928
01:47:08.449 --> 01:47:10.970
of 10 11 uh i think it was four times
1929
01:47:11.010 --> 01:47:13.470
we saw the bird the ball in bird ficklin's hands
1930
01:47:13.890 --> 01:47:16.489
with an option for a fifth on maybe another catch
1931
01:47:17.310 --> 01:47:21.729
uh is there anything behind that is he banged up
1932
01:47:22.029 --> 01:47:23.989
was it just what you guys were seeing on film
1933
01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:26.340
why was bird not as much of a game plan
1934
01:47:26.350 --> 01:47:27.960
this week to your to your knowledge.
1935
01:47:28.439 --> 01:47:32.800
Yeah um man again certain like our plays with bird
1936
01:47:32.920 --> 01:47:38.539
is um I guess they're normal plays, if that's what
1937
01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:41.020
I could say. Some of the stuff he was on
1938
01:47:41.060 --> 01:47:43.350
was kind of what Hunter was on, and after Hunter
1939
01:47:43.390 --> 01:47:45.810
hit a couple of those that game, they started to
1940
01:47:45.850 --> 01:47:48.090
respect the pitch, and he just kind of wasn't there
1941
01:47:48.130 --> 01:47:52.770
anymore in those opportunities. And then I think Way got
1942
01:47:53.010 --> 01:47:55.050
a couple more carries than he normally does every game
1943
01:47:55.109 --> 01:47:55.470
as well.
1944
01:47:55.569 --> 01:47:57.569
Yeah, I think this is the most we've seen from
1945
01:47:57.609 --> 01:47:59.829
him this year, 23 carries in the run game.
1946
01:48:00.109 --> 01:48:03.569
So just also giving him the ball when, when things matter, when,
1947
01:48:03.810 --> 01:48:05.810
when we need those short yardage and things like that.
1948
01:48:05.869 --> 01:48:08.220
So just kind of the situation, the game ended up
1949
01:48:08.229 --> 01:48:09.039
playing out that way.
1950
01:48:09.060 --> 01:48:13.260
Uh, the, the run game, we've seen a lot of
1951
01:48:13.319 --> 01:48:16.750
explosive runs from this Utah offense in the first five
1952
01:48:16.789 --> 01:48:21.079
games of the season. You had Hunter Andrews got one explosive.
1953
01:48:21.300 --> 01:48:22.680
Way Sean flirted with one.
1954
01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:25.279
I guess it's 15 plus. He got a 14 yarder.
1955
01:48:25.819 --> 01:48:28.779
Was Colorado doing anything special that the run game was
1956
01:48:28.819 --> 01:48:31.229
not quite as explosive against the Buffaloes?
1957
01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:34.470
Yeah, I think they kind of loaded the box up
1958
01:48:34.510 --> 01:48:38.439
a little bit on us when at times and Again,
1959
01:48:38.500 --> 01:48:41.060
I honestly thought we moved the ball pretty well. We
1960
01:48:41.079 --> 01:48:43.170
just really couldn't score in the red zone, and that
1961
01:48:43.189 --> 01:48:46.750
was kind of just hurting our momentum. But, I mean,
1962
01:48:46.770 --> 01:48:49.569
we were able to pass the ball downfield and get
1963
01:48:49.609 --> 01:48:51.270
down there. You know, you just got to kind of
1964
01:48:51.310 --> 01:48:53.970
pick your poison, and they decided to key on our
1965
01:48:54.010 --> 01:48:55.729
run game and try to make us one-dimensional in the
1966
01:48:55.770 --> 01:48:56.199
pass game.
1967
01:48:57.300 --> 01:49:00.539
When we get down to that kind of final, you know,
1968
01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:03.159
game-deciding scenario, and you guys are trying to salt it
1969
01:49:03.199 --> 01:49:04.750
away by getting a first down, and....
1970
01:49:07.100 --> 01:49:07.960
Or killing as.
1971
01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:11.210
Much clock as possible because Colorado does not have any
1972
01:49:11.250 --> 01:49:15.670
timeouts left. The conventional wisdom is like, all right, even
1973
01:49:15.689 --> 01:49:18.630
though you got a long distance to go before you
1974
01:49:18.649 --> 01:49:21.970
hit the sticks, still run the ball because even if
1975
01:49:22.010 --> 01:49:23.850
they stop you, a bunch of times are going to
1976
01:49:23.869 --> 01:49:28.210
come off. A pass was called and good pressure ended
1977
01:49:28.270 --> 01:49:30.930
up in the dirt. Tell me what the communication was
1978
01:49:30.970 --> 01:49:32.439
like previous to that play call.
1979
01:49:32.939 --> 01:49:33.149
Yeah.
1980
01:49:33.739 --> 01:49:37.079
Um, you know, first I take full responsibility of that. Um,
1981
01:49:37.810 --> 01:49:39.550
I was told if I can complete the ball completed,
1982
01:49:39.609 --> 01:49:43.390
but if not take the sack, uh, we want to
1983
01:49:43.550 --> 01:49:46.729
waste clock. And yeah, I don't, I don't really know
1984
01:49:46.770 --> 01:49:49.020
what happened in my head during that time. I totally
1985
01:49:49.029 --> 01:49:49.560
blanked out.
1986
01:49:49.609 --> 01:49:51.920
And is it hard to like, I'm not trying to
1987
01:49:51.939 --> 01:49:54.579
interrupt you here, but is it hard to be like, all.
1988
01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:56.720
Right, take a sec. You don't want to take a sec.
1989
01:49:58.020 --> 01:49:59.880
I have a hard time thinking that there's ever a
1990
01:49:59.899 --> 01:50:02.239
scenario where you're out there, the competitor that I've come
1991
01:50:02.260 --> 01:50:04.260
to know you as, where you're just like, I'm definitely
1992
01:50:04.300 --> 01:50:05.460
not going to complete this pass.
1993
01:50:05.579 --> 01:50:08.079
Like that's, that feels like a hard thing to ask
1994
01:50:08.140 --> 01:50:08.840
a player to do.
1995
01:50:08.859 --> 01:50:09.350
I don't know.
1996
01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:12.149
Yeah. I, I know me don't blink out like that.
1997
01:50:12.289 --> 01:50:14.609
And yeah, that was a situation where I did.
1998
01:50:14.630 --> 01:50:17.689
And, uh, you can tell the frustration of my body
1999
01:50:17.729 --> 01:50:19.329
language as soon as I kind of let go of
2000
01:50:19.350 --> 01:50:23.560
the ball where I realized I made that mistake. So, um, Man,
2001
01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:26.220
I'm just glad everything worked out because I was definitely
2002
01:50:26.260 --> 01:50:27.720
in my head the whole time on the sideline.
2003
01:50:28.800 --> 01:50:29.800
Is there a silver lining?
2004
01:50:29.859 --> 01:50:32.300
I know that you want to maintain the high standard,
2005
01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:35.100
and you never want to leave things on the field.
2006
01:50:35.899 --> 01:50:39.319
Is there a silver lining to be found that you
2007
01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:42.810
played far below the standard on offense and defense, and
2008
01:50:42.850 --> 01:50:44.510
you still came away with a win against a Big
2009
01:50:44.510 --> 01:50:48.029
12 opponent? I know that you don't want it to
2010
01:50:48.069 --> 01:50:52.609
look like this against Houston, but in a weekend where
2011
01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:57.239
what seven top 10 teams lost and there was upsets
2012
01:50:57.300 --> 01:51:00.000
all over the place, even though you didn't play as
2013
01:51:00.060 --> 01:51:03.239
well as you needed to as a collective team, you
2014
01:51:03.300 --> 01:51:04.260
still got the win.
2015
01:51:04.819 --> 01:51:07.119
Is there something to be, to be gained from that?
2016
01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:07.840
Yeah.
2017
01:51:08.319 --> 01:51:11.890
Um, I think the biggest thing was, um, that was
2018
01:51:11.909 --> 01:51:15.869
the first time us offense, we were trailing, um, and
2019
01:51:15.890 --> 01:51:18.329
just for us to honestly step up and be able
2020
01:51:18.350 --> 01:51:19.909
to put points on the boy when we were down.
2021
01:51:21.300 --> 01:51:23.680
you know, that was huge for us, a huge takeaway
2022
01:51:23.699 --> 01:51:26.699
for us to know that, you know, even though we're down,
2023
01:51:26.739 --> 01:51:28.510
we're able to trust ourselves that we can go out
2024
01:51:28.550 --> 01:51:31.010
there and we can go play together and, you know,
2025
01:51:31.050 --> 01:51:31.970
be one on that field.
2026
01:51:32.010 --> 01:51:33.949
So I thought a lot of us came together.
2027
01:51:33.970 --> 01:51:38.170
I think there's a lot of individual efforts during, you know,
2028
01:51:38.189 --> 01:51:39.229
those last couple.
2029
01:51:40.649 --> 01:51:42.289
Drives, both offense and defense.
2030
01:51:42.350 --> 01:51:47.149
Where especially Creed being one, Bobo, you know, those are
2031
01:51:47.170 --> 01:51:49.189
some big plays that were able to be made that,
2032
01:51:49.659 --> 01:51:51.939
definitely turned the game around and gave us a chance.
2033
01:51:54.819 --> 01:51:57.819
How big picture do you let each play get in
2034
01:51:57.840 --> 01:51:59.880
your mind? Like, I'm trying to ask this the right way,
2035
01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:04.619
where you're in a couple scenarios, I mean, really on
2036
01:52:04.649 --> 01:52:06.899
the two throws you hit to Creed, on the touchdown,
2037
01:52:06.930 --> 01:52:09.989
the second touchdown you hit to Braden, it's kind of
2038
01:52:10.029 --> 01:52:13.510
like if you don't score there, the momentum is already
2039
01:52:13.569 --> 01:52:16.829
in Colorado's boat, right? If you don't make this play,
2040
01:52:17.260 --> 01:52:21.119
if you, the quarterback doesn't throw this ball accurately, your
2041
01:52:21.140 --> 01:52:23.039
team's probably going to lose the game or has a
2042
01:52:23.079 --> 01:52:27.119
good chance of losing a game, right? When you're in
2043
01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:29.539
that scenario and the play call comes in and it's
2044
01:52:29.579 --> 01:52:31.680
like kind of do or die. And there's three or
2045
01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:33.800
four of those moments in this game. You haven't really
2046
01:52:33.920 --> 01:52:37.420
faced those this season yet. It hasn't come down to
2047
01:52:37.460 --> 01:52:41.140
that competitive a game. And in the first five, how,
2048
01:52:41.619 --> 01:52:43.210
how do you process it in your mind? Is it,
2049
01:52:44.199 --> 01:52:46.300
I'm going to make this play and we're going to
2050
01:52:46.340 --> 01:52:48.140
win the game. Cause if I don't make this play,
2051
01:52:48.159 --> 01:52:50.479
we're going to lose her. Like, how do you process it?
2052
01:52:50.560 --> 01:52:53.390
Or is it that big picture? Is it, you just say, no,
2053
01:52:53.430 --> 01:52:55.310
I'm just going to hit this throw. Like, tell me
2054
01:52:55.350 --> 01:52:59.050
what it's like inside the helmet of Devin Dampier in
2055
01:52:59.090 --> 01:53:00.850
those like deciding plays.
2056
01:53:01.270 --> 01:53:04.710
Yeah. Um, you know, I think that's one of the
2057
01:53:04.729 --> 01:53:06.590
reasons why I play quarterback.
2058
01:53:07.020 --> 01:53:09.640
Um, you know, not in a cocky way or selfish way,
2059
01:53:09.659 --> 01:53:12.729
but I do believe that I'm able to make those decisions. I'm,
2060
01:53:13.649 --> 01:53:16.250
built for pressure like it's I'm kind of at a
2061
01:53:16.270 --> 01:53:20.350
point where pressure just feels like another rep like I've
2062
01:53:20.369 --> 01:53:22.569
been here before I know what to expect I know
2063
01:53:22.590 --> 01:53:25.720
what I'm capable of doing so honestly I don't get
2064
01:53:25.760 --> 01:53:28.460
too rattled I just I kind of I'm kind of
2065
01:53:28.479 --> 01:53:30.640
just a mellow guy I'm like all right bet and
2066
01:53:30.659 --> 01:53:33.619
then when the play happens like I got to start
2067
01:53:33.640 --> 01:53:36.390
remembering to get excited but I'm just like I expected
2068
01:53:36.430 --> 01:53:40.369
that to happen almost and okay so uh yeah I
2069
01:53:40.390 --> 01:53:42.130
guess you could say in my in my head I'm
2070
01:53:42.170 --> 01:53:46.710
just I'm very mellow. I'm very– like, allow me to
2071
01:53:46.930 --> 01:53:49.189
have the opportunity to make some out of this, and
2072
01:53:50.430 --> 01:53:51.409
you should get a good result.
2073
01:53:52.560 --> 01:53:55.779
So when Creed comes down with those big catches and
2074
01:53:55.800 --> 01:53:58.140
the sticks move, or when Braden comes down in the
2075
01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:01.479
end zone, it's a feeling of relief, or it's a
2076
01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:02.560
feeling of, yeah, I knew that was.
2077
01:54:02.500 --> 01:54:02.920
Going to happen?
2078
01:54:05.369 --> 01:54:07.630
I would say there's more of I knew that was
2079
01:54:07.649 --> 01:54:08.430
going to happen than relief.
2080
01:54:08.449 --> 01:54:08.760
All right, wow.
2081
01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:13.039
Again, me and Creed, ever since I think it was
2082
01:54:13.079 --> 01:54:15.239
like week two maybe, he might have dropped one of those.
2083
01:54:15.319 --> 01:54:19.000
And ever since then, like when we get one-on-ones periods,
2084
01:54:19.199 --> 01:54:21.560
we're working that catch just to make sure, you know,
2085
01:54:21.800 --> 01:54:23.300
when it comes up in the game, he's good.
2086
01:54:24.739 --> 01:54:25.899
So, yeah, it just felt like another.
2087
01:54:25.899 --> 01:54:28.229
You know, we've been in that situation before where it's
2088
01:54:28.250 --> 01:54:30.770
a one-on-one press, go in.
2089
01:54:31.970 --> 01:54:34.010
How's the body feeling after the Colorado game?
2090
01:54:34.029 --> 01:54:35.970
Because you took more contact in this one than you
2091
01:54:35.989 --> 01:54:38.189
have in probably five of the previous.
2092
01:54:38.310 --> 01:54:39.189
How are you feeling?
2093
01:54:40.100 --> 01:54:40.319
Good.
2094
01:54:40.340 --> 01:54:42.560
Just game day bruises.
2095
01:54:42.619 --> 01:54:48.479
They're always there, sadly. But bruises are not season-ending.
2096
01:54:48.880 --> 01:54:52.489
Season-ending injuries are something that will dwell for the rest
2097
01:54:52.510 --> 01:54:53.029
of the season.
2098
01:54:53.069 --> 01:54:54.689
So glad they're just that.
2099
01:54:55.729 --> 01:54:58.670
Devin Dampier is our guest here. Dishing with Dev on
2100
01:54:58.689 --> 01:55:00.770
a Wednesday. We'll replay it on Thursday. But Dishing with
2101
01:55:00.789 --> 01:55:03.109
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2104
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2105
01:55:09.539 --> 01:55:11.420
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2106
01:55:11.439 --> 01:55:16.039
You guys expected this to be the outcome. There's not
2107
01:55:16.060 --> 01:55:18.600
a lot of people, even big fans of the program,
2108
01:55:19.020 --> 01:55:20.819
who thought that this would be an easy thing to
2109
01:55:20.859 --> 01:55:23.600
do or this would be a possible thing in Morgan
2110
01:55:23.619 --> 01:55:26.569
Scali's first year. New coordinator on both sides of the ball,
2111
01:55:27.050 --> 01:55:30.970
new head coach, brand new offensive line, top 10 team.
2112
01:55:31.270 --> 01:55:32.909
Those things don't usually go together.
2113
01:55:33.489 --> 01:55:38.390
For sure. Yeah. And I think, I mean, I'm confident
2114
01:55:38.449 --> 01:55:40.119
in what's been happening.
2115
01:55:40.140 --> 01:55:43.880
Like I've seen it since the beginning, but just as
2116
01:55:44.779 --> 01:55:47.319
point of view outside of it, it is pretty crazy.
2117
01:55:47.539 --> 01:55:50.180
I think Scali does deserve a lot of that credit
2118
01:55:50.199 --> 01:55:52.579
just to be able to bring in so many new
2119
01:55:52.619 --> 01:55:56.199
components and make a culture that works, make a culture
2120
01:55:56.220 --> 01:55:59.199
we're all able to buy into. So yeah, that's a
2121
01:55:59.199 --> 01:56:02.369
huge shout out to him. But for me, I guess
2122
01:56:02.390 --> 01:56:05.210
it was expected, honestly. Does it feel weird that the
2123
01:56:05.229 --> 01:56:06.250
season is halfway gone?
2124
01:56:07.029 --> 01:56:09.550
Yeah. It's weird that we're already halfway through.
2125
01:56:09.710 --> 01:56:11.289
Has it gone fast for you?
2126
01:56:11.350 --> 01:56:11.630
Yeah.
2127
01:56:12.010 --> 01:56:13.989
This year has been like, I don't know why, but
2128
01:56:14.029 --> 01:56:17.109
this year has been a lot faster than last year.
2129
01:56:17.149 --> 01:56:19.770
Maybe just because all the crazy games that's happening and
2130
01:56:19.789 --> 01:56:23.670
stuff like that. It's making college football just fun to
2131
01:56:23.689 --> 01:56:25.689
watch every weekend. So it's just going by.
2132
01:56:26.649 --> 01:56:30.479
So now you turn the page. Top 15 matchup. Number
2133
01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:33.600
10 Utes, number 14 Houston Cougars. They're coming off a
2134
01:56:33.640 --> 01:56:37.649
huge win. Pretty emotional win. against Oklahoma State. You guys
2135
01:56:37.689 --> 01:56:40.109
are coming off of, I'm just going to say, it's
2136
01:56:40.140 --> 01:56:42.539
your worst performance of the year, but hopefully you learned
2137
01:56:42.560 --> 01:56:44.800
the lessons from that. And now game day is here,
2138
01:56:45.380 --> 01:56:46.979
and it's a big stage. It's as big a stage
2139
01:56:47.020 --> 01:56:49.500
as you're going to get this season probably.
2140
01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:53.659
I know that you keep it kind of in routine.
2141
01:56:53.699 --> 01:56:57.560
You make it as constant as you possibly can, but
2142
01:56:58.220 --> 01:57:00.979
does anything change for you? Does the schedule change at all?
2143
01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:03.720
Is there extra interviews with college game day in town?
2144
01:57:04.579 --> 01:57:09.520
Yeah, there's a little bit of, I guess you could say,
2145
01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:12.430
extra stuff going on during the week. But, I mean,
2146
01:57:12.439 --> 01:57:16.229
when it's Friday and that's Saturday, that's how we make
2147
01:57:16.250 --> 01:57:20.489
sure we're straight football, we're straight around our team. Nothing
2148
01:57:21.069 --> 01:57:26.810
outside is able to distract us anymore from that point on. So, yeah,
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01:57:26.890 --> 01:57:29.789
I mean, just especially coming off the win we just had,
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01:57:29.810 --> 01:57:34.640
I think we're able to, realized we need to stay hungry,
2151
01:57:34.699 --> 01:57:38.710
we need to stay gritty, and I think that's honestly
2152
01:57:38.750 --> 01:57:42.689
boosted up our last couple days of practice too. Just
2153
01:57:42.890 --> 01:57:45.470
having a win that close made us realize we're not
2154
01:57:45.489 --> 01:57:49.689
there yet. We definitely picked it up a lot during practice.
2155
01:57:50.109 --> 01:57:51.770
Some of the slack we felt like we were getting to,
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01:57:51.850 --> 01:57:54.159
and I'm excited to go into this week.
2157
01:57:55.260 --> 01:57:58.619
What are you seeing from Houston on film? A good
2158
01:57:58.640 --> 01:58:02.340
team all around, honestly. I think they're playing well offensively
2159
01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:06.760
and defensively. A team that's going to compete for sure
2160
01:58:07.069 --> 01:58:11.960
to the end. We're expecting a dogfight and, yeah, let
2161
01:58:11.979 --> 01:58:12.520
that play out.
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01:58:13.779 --> 01:58:16.979
So on paper, and I know that these matches aren't
2163
01:58:17.640 --> 01:58:21.520
played out on paper, but it looks like they're better
2164
01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:23.800
against the run than they are against the pass, which
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01:58:24.539 --> 01:58:28.029
logically would mean that Devin Dampier should be throwing the
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01:58:28.069 --> 01:58:30.760
ball and trying to exploit If there is a weakness
2167
01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:35.180
in that defense, the secondary is it. I'm not asking
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01:58:35.220 --> 01:58:38.960
you to reveal anything game plan-wise, but does that excite you,
2169
01:58:38.979 --> 01:58:41.510
the prospect of, hey, we might rely on my arm
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01:58:41.550 --> 01:58:43.250
a little bit more this week than we do in
2171
01:58:43.289 --> 01:58:43.949
a typical week?
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01:58:44.710 --> 01:58:47.149
Yeah, I mean, you know, I.
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01:58:49.329 --> 01:58:53.430
Love throwing the ball, but, man, whatever honestly gets to win,
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01:58:53.510 --> 01:58:57.810
I can't express enough– wins is a stat that matters
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01:58:57.829 --> 01:58:59.930
to me uh so much more than anything else so
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01:59:00.489 --> 01:59:02.250
yeah if that's how they decide to play if that's
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01:59:02.670 --> 01:59:04.810
how they decide to try to make us win the
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01:59:04.850 --> 01:59:07.789
game um you know i'm more than happy to go
2179
01:59:07.810 --> 01:59:08.369
that route.
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01:59:08.189 --> 01:59:13.300
Too there's a there's also a thought that uh they
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01:59:13.810 --> 01:59:17.579
you know they score a lot on their possessions right
2182
01:59:17.619 --> 01:59:19.859
in points per possession they're doing a good job they're
2183
01:59:19.880 --> 01:59:22.840
actually right behind utah in points per game and in
2184
01:59:22.899 --> 01:59:28.270
points per possession so um you might want to slow
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01:59:28.289 --> 01:59:31.289
the game down. You might want to run the ball more.
2186
01:59:31.329 --> 01:59:33.789
You might not want to give them as many offensive possessions.
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01:59:34.550 --> 01:59:38.510
And that has been a successful errand for all of you.
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01:59:38.590 --> 01:59:40.949
Way Sean is one of the best players on this team.
2189
01:59:41.010 --> 01:59:43.289
If not the best player on the team, your offensive line,
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01:59:43.329 --> 01:59:45.770
as we've talked about every single week has done a
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01:59:45.810 --> 01:59:49.310
really good job. If it comes down to that, if
2192
01:59:49.380 --> 01:59:51.739
it comes down to like an old fashioned rock fight
2193
01:59:51.779 --> 01:59:54.359
where you just got to grind out eight eight minute
2194
01:59:54.399 --> 01:59:57.039
drives is that something you feel based on what you've
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01:59:57.060 --> 01:59:59.380
seen from Houston you can pull off against this because
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01:59:59.399 --> 02:00:00.439
they're an athletic front.
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02:00:00.699 --> 02:00:03.239
For sure yeah no they're they're a talented group as
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02:00:03.300 --> 02:00:07.859
well um we've gone against our defense uh all this
2199
02:00:07.899 --> 02:00:11.939
time coming coming up to the season so we've played
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02:00:11.970 --> 02:00:15.250
against a good defense we played against um especially a
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02:00:15.489 --> 02:00:17.869
scally defense as him as head coach you know we
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02:00:18.329 --> 02:00:21.449
we've got to have that experience of playing a such
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02:00:21.489 --> 02:00:25.310
talented defense that I mean, we know what to expect.
2204
02:00:25.390 --> 02:00:29.470
We've been here before in these situations where every drive
2205
02:00:29.869 --> 02:00:30.989
feels like it matters just.
2206
02:00:30.880 --> 02:00:31.399
A little bit more.
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02:00:32.340 --> 02:00:33.340
How was Kelvin Obot?
2208
02:00:35.039 --> 02:00:36.180
As in what way?
2209
02:00:36.359 --> 02:00:38.699
Like, it looked like he couldn't put any weight on
2210
02:00:38.739 --> 02:00:40.819
his ankles. He doing all right? Like, I'm not asking
2211
02:00:40.859 --> 02:00:43.020
you to tell me if he's playing this week. I
2212
02:00:43.050 --> 02:00:44.609
know that you can't talk about it, but like.
2213
02:00:44.729 --> 02:00:47.939
I don't know what... He's a true freshman, right? He's
2214
02:00:47.979 --> 02:00:49.859
a guy who's a starter. He's a big part of
2215
02:00:49.899 --> 02:00:53.430
this team. And, you know, like when you're 18, 19
2216
02:00:53.430 --> 02:00:56.149
years old and you're living the dream and then something
2217
02:00:56.189 --> 02:00:58.550
happens in a game, that's dicey.
2218
02:00:58.569 --> 02:01:00.750
I'm asking you, like, as a teammate, how does it
2219
02:01:00.770 --> 02:01:01.369
seem like he's doing?
2220
02:01:01.609 --> 02:01:03.609
Yeah, I think he's doing well.
2221
02:01:04.649 --> 02:01:06.510
I checked up on him the other day, too, just
2222
02:01:07.189 --> 02:01:11.199
asking how he's feeling, especially we've got a great O-line room,
2223
02:01:11.220 --> 02:01:14.310
a pretty older O-line room that's able to, kind of
2224
02:01:14.319 --> 02:01:17.149
mentor him and take care of him in those ways, too,
2225
02:01:17.229 --> 02:01:19.529
and give him that advice on how to recover faster
2226
02:01:19.590 --> 02:01:23.470
and stuff like that. I think he's in a good headspace, though.
2227
02:01:24.210 --> 02:01:28.090
He's being loud at practice already with the limited reps
2228
02:01:28.109 --> 02:01:30.090
he gets, so it's been good.
2229
02:01:30.430 --> 02:01:33.020
That is not an injury update on Kelvin Obot from
2230
02:01:33.060 --> 02:01:36.859
Devin Dampier, okay? He's not giving us any information that
2231
02:01:36.880 --> 02:01:41.140
we're not supposed to have. Blackout game at night at
2232
02:01:41.180 --> 02:01:44.500
Rice-Echo Center. You guys have played every dang game at night, basically.
2233
02:01:44.619 --> 02:01:45.140
Yeah, I know.
2234
02:01:45.800 --> 02:01:46.880
You like it or are you sick of it?
2235
02:01:46.880 --> 02:01:47.640
It's super at night.
2236
02:01:47.659 --> 02:01:51.579
I mean, it's cool.
2237
02:01:52.039 --> 02:01:54.659
It's cool. It's definitely better when it's at home, I
2238
02:01:54.979 --> 02:01:59.779
would say. Last game was trash. I would not recommend
2239
02:01:59.800 --> 02:02:00.220
that again.
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02:02:00.600 --> 02:02:00.899
No?
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02:02:01.039 --> 02:02:02.579
Who knows? Who knows?
2242
02:02:02.619 --> 02:02:05.500
We got home at like 3 a.m. No, like 4.30.
2243
02:02:05.500 --> 02:02:07.680
I got to my house at 4.30.
2244
02:02:07.680 --> 02:02:08.319
That's crazy.
2245
02:02:08.359 --> 02:02:11.260
Yeah. It was an experience.
2246
02:02:12.149 --> 02:02:13.050
This one's at home though.
2247
02:02:13.289 --> 02:02:13.470
Yeah.
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02:02:14.750 --> 02:02:17.789
Dark mode, blackout game day. I mean, the stage is set.
2249
02:02:18.449 --> 02:02:21.449
Do you feel like the team has the right mentality
2250
02:02:21.829 --> 02:02:25.199
given the full context coming off this Colorado game, knowing
2251
02:02:25.260 --> 02:02:27.779
how tough Houston is, knowing what the rest of the
2252
02:02:27.819 --> 02:02:30.319
season could look like because the schedule does get tougher,
2253
02:02:30.340 --> 02:02:32.020
but you got to focus on one game at a time.
2254
02:02:32.460 --> 02:02:33.619
Is everyone in the right headspace?
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02:02:33.960 --> 02:02:34.199
Yeah.
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02:02:34.699 --> 02:02:38.229
Uh, Scali doesn't sugarcoat anything during our beans. He's very transparent,
2257
02:02:38.670 --> 02:02:40.909
very much wants to give us the real on what's
2258
02:02:40.930 --> 02:02:42.949
going on. And, I feel like he gave us a
2259
02:02:42.970 --> 02:02:47.109
great rundown of where we're at as a team, where
2260
02:02:47.130 --> 02:02:49.029
we need to show ourselves, and then also this is
2261
02:02:49.630 --> 02:02:52.529
a big tester for us. This is a big kind
2262
02:02:52.569 --> 02:02:55.789
of where do we really stand, what kind of team
2263
02:02:55.850 --> 02:02:58.529
are we, and that's what this weekend will be able
2264
02:02:58.550 --> 02:02:59.090
to prove to us.
2265
02:02:59.800 --> 02:03:01.689
This last weekend, I think, proved to a lot of
2266
02:03:01.729 --> 02:03:05.020
college football fans how wide open everything really is this
2267
02:03:05.060 --> 02:03:08.079
year because a bunch of teams in the top ten,
2268
02:03:08.119 --> 02:03:12.439
Notre Dame loses to BYU, Georgia loses, Texas again, I mean,
2269
02:03:13.460 --> 02:03:15.039
nobody is safe, basically.
2270
02:03:15.739 --> 02:03:18.539
So is there a lesson to be learned from that?
2271
02:03:20.460 --> 02:03:22.420
I mean, you know, Scali says it every week.
2272
02:03:22.520 --> 02:03:26.239
Like, you know, he watches the college football games just
2273
02:03:26.300 --> 02:03:29.090
as we do during leading up to our games and
2274
02:03:29.119 --> 02:03:32.359
stuff like that. And he's always like, man, college football,
2275
02:03:33.279 --> 02:03:34.789
this is why people love college football.
2276
02:03:34.810 --> 02:03:36.710
That's right. Anything can happen.
2277
02:03:36.789 --> 02:03:40.310
It's so crazy that there's not like a team that's just,
2278
02:03:41.770 --> 02:03:44.869
that can't lose. Like that's not a thing. It's you gotta,
2279
02:03:44.890 --> 02:03:47.989
you gotta play come out every week with, with that
2280
02:03:48.029 --> 02:03:49.800
mentality of you gotta.
2281
02:03:49.609 --> 02:03:50.020
Go get it.
2282
02:03:51.819 --> 02:03:54.199
I think we talked about this with the Western Michigan,
2283
02:03:54.260 --> 02:03:59.180
Michigan game at the beginning of the season. But if
2284
02:03:59.220 --> 02:04:03.460
a referee or an officiating crew doesn't give you a
2285
02:04:03.539 --> 02:04:06.090
final play when there's one second left on the clock
2286
02:04:06.739 --> 02:04:08.170
and you have a chance to win a game, but
2287
02:04:08.189 --> 02:04:11.119
you don't get that chance, How do you process that
2288
02:04:11.180 --> 02:04:11.840
as a quarterback?
2289
02:04:11.920 --> 02:04:14.470
That's what happened to C.J. Carr in Provo last week.
2290
02:04:15.020 --> 02:04:18.890
Yeah, I'd– you know, there's two ways you can go
2291
02:04:18.909 --> 02:04:21.430
about it. I mean, I'd be upset if, you know,
2292
02:04:21.449 --> 02:04:24.109
that's the rules of football. I hope you get that
2293
02:04:24.350 --> 02:04:28.170
one last play because, again, we saw Michigan. They did
2294
02:04:28.229 --> 02:04:29.430
get that one last play.
2295
02:04:29.550 --> 02:04:32.829
Yes. And, you know, something worked out for them.
2296
02:04:32.909 --> 02:04:37.649
And even Florida State, Florida State against Miami, they got–
2297
02:04:38.569 --> 02:04:41.050
Their plays call back their things.
2298
02:04:42.029 --> 02:04:44.710
Yeah, I would be hurt for sure, but.
2299
02:04:46.050 --> 02:04:48.289
You also hope you're not putting yourself in a position
2300
02:04:48.329 --> 02:04:49.829
where I guess you need that.
2301
02:04:49.789 --> 02:04:50.510
One last play.
2302
02:04:50.890 --> 02:04:53.949
You hope you win in a margin where that one
2303
02:04:54.510 --> 02:04:56.949
last play, hopefully you don't need it.
2304
02:04:58.770 --> 02:05:01.949
On a last-second play, which didn't end up being a
2305
02:05:01.989 --> 02:05:04.590
last-second play, as a quarterback, do you just accept you're
2306
02:05:04.630 --> 02:05:07.239
not going to get a flag even if there's pretty
2307
02:05:07.300 --> 02:05:09.000
obvious contact and maybe some PI.
2308
02:05:11.439 --> 02:05:14.149
You know, I always, when it comes to like last
2309
02:05:14.189 --> 02:05:16.770
second plays, I always live by give your receiver a chance.
2310
02:05:16.810 --> 02:05:19.590
Like I'd, I'd rather the ball get picked off or
2311
02:05:21.029 --> 02:05:23.510
at least I made it catchable in a way that
2312
02:05:24.109 --> 02:05:26.090
instead of trying to throw the perfect ball, like I just,
2313
02:05:27.090 --> 02:05:29.470
I would rather die on the Hill of, you know,
2314
02:05:29.569 --> 02:05:32.640
I saw my receiver jump for the ball and whatever
2315
02:05:32.680 --> 02:05:33.380
happened to happen.
2316
02:05:35.460 --> 02:05:38.250
Well, going to be a fun one at rice echo stadium.
2317
02:05:38.310 --> 02:05:41.750
Another night game, blackout eight 15 kickoff.
2318
02:05:41.789 --> 02:05:42.369
Let's be honest.
2319
02:05:42.430 --> 02:05:44.850
It'll probably be more like eight 30 because the, the
2320
02:05:44.869 --> 02:05:47.310
games before we'll go a little bit later. They don't
2321
02:05:47.329 --> 02:05:49.569
want to start it off on ESPN news or whatever,
2322
02:05:50.170 --> 02:05:54.140
but man, good luck, big stage, huge game, huge opportunity.
2323
02:05:54.149 --> 02:05:56.729
And obviously we'll all be behind it.
2324
02:05:57.079 --> 02:05:59.539
Yeah, for sure. Love our youth.
2325
02:06:00.579 --> 02:06:01.800
Uh, final message for the fans.
2326
02:06:02.880 --> 02:06:07.420
Um, It's dark mode. So I know what time it is.
2327
02:06:08.930 --> 02:06:09.890
Let's go, baby.
2328
02:06:09.930 --> 02:06:13.609
Rice Stadium on Saturday night. Devin Dampier will be there.
2329
02:06:13.630 --> 02:06:14.670
I will be there.
2330
02:06:14.710 --> 02:06:16.430
Hopefully all of you get a chance to be there
2331
02:06:16.590 --> 02:06:19.069
as well. That's Dishing with Dev. Brought to you by
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You're listening to The Sean O'Connell Show, your source for
2336
02:06:32.340 --> 02:06:34.140
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02:06:34.279 --> 02:06:35.079
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02:06:35.119 --> 02:06:40.699
From the Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM.
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02:06:43.590 --> 02:06:46.050
Got a pair of Nickelback tickets to give away coming
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02:06:46.109 --> 02:06:48.170
up in our final segment of the show.
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02:06:48.350 --> 02:06:51.449
Be here in about 10 minutes, and we'll give those
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away at 877-353-0700.
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Spence Checketts is broadcasting live at Rally House today from
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02:06:59.220 --> 02:07:02.819
2 to 6. They've got an incredible selection of Utah gear.
2345
02:07:02.840 --> 02:07:06.819
They've got Utah Mammoth gear. If you're looking for BYU stuff,
2346
02:07:06.840 --> 02:07:09.600
they have that as well. Get game day ready at
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02:07:09.659 --> 02:07:13.739
Rally House on 4th South. It is two doors down
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02:07:13.859 --> 02:07:19.260
from the Trader Joe's on 4th South. Signed Utah helmet.
2349
02:07:20.060 --> 02:07:22.649
Devin Dampier signature on that one. They're going to raffle
2350
02:07:22.670 --> 02:07:26.460
off a pair of BYU Utah tickets. And they'll have
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02:07:26.520 --> 02:07:31.239
tailgate passes for the Utah BYU game. Free Little Caesars
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02:07:31.319 --> 02:07:34.119
hot and ready pizza while it lasts as well. So
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02:07:34.699 --> 02:07:38.489
swing by when Spence Chekits is broadcasting at Rally House.
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02:07:40.350 --> 02:07:43.210
We know there's at least three of you listening every day.
2355
02:07:43.229 --> 02:07:47.310
We're there for the BYU gear. So head on out there, right?
2356
02:07:47.449 --> 02:07:50.069
Head on over there, all three of you. We love
2357
02:07:50.109 --> 02:07:57.109
our BYU listeners. Yeah, and apparently Rally House, like, I
2358
02:07:57.130 --> 02:07:59.739
don't know if they're on site at the same time.
2359
02:08:00.020 --> 02:08:02.380
like on campus at all of the college game days,
2360
02:08:02.399 --> 02:08:04.979
but they try to be at the places where college
2361
02:08:05.000 --> 02:08:06.319
game days too.
2362
02:08:06.439 --> 02:08:08.449
So this is the, that's another reason.
2363
02:08:08.229 --> 02:08:10.750
Why they're your place to get ready for game day,
2364
02:08:10.770 --> 02:08:14.029
not just a regular old game, but a college game
2365
02:08:14.050 --> 02:08:14.869
day game day as well.
2366
02:08:15.149 --> 02:08:15.590
Interesting.
2367
02:08:16.550 --> 02:08:17.310
Very interesting.
2368
02:08:17.670 --> 02:08:22.180
Um, by the way, I, It was in Chicago last week,
2369
02:08:22.300 --> 02:08:25.810
and the weigh-ins were at a bar right across, at Wrigleyville,
2370
02:08:25.970 --> 02:08:27.909
right across from Wrigley Field.
2371
02:08:28.130 --> 02:08:28.409
Oh, yeah.
2372
02:08:28.930 --> 02:08:33.880
And in the right field corner, so whatever, first baseline,
2373
02:08:34.979 --> 02:08:37.140
gigantic rally house with all Cubs gear.
2374
02:08:37.159 --> 02:08:37.460
Oh, really?
2375
02:08:39.149 --> 02:08:39.750
They're everywhere.
2376
02:08:39.770 --> 02:08:40.130
Yeah.
2377
02:08:40.229 --> 02:08:43.409
They're all over the place, baby. So, Hey, so your fight,
2378
02:08:43.640 --> 02:08:45.489
by the way, was it wind trust arena? That's where
2379
02:08:45.529 --> 02:08:47.520
the sky play, right? That's the WNBA.
2380
02:08:47.649 --> 02:08:47.899
Yes.
2381
02:08:47.939 --> 02:08:51.699
That's where DePaul university plays basketball and where the WNBA
2382
02:08:51.800 --> 02:08:52.500
sky play.
2383
02:08:52.579 --> 02:08:55.159
Is that, is that near the United center? Where is
2384
02:08:55.180 --> 02:08:57.159
that in Chicago? It's far away from the United center.
2385
02:08:57.180 --> 02:08:59.659
Is it by Wrigley then? Is that why the weigh-ins? No,
2386
02:08:59.800 --> 02:09:04.600
it's not. It's actually, it's very close to a soldier field. Oh, okay.
2387
02:09:04.979 --> 02:09:07.119
So like on the, on the shores of Lake Michigan,
2388
02:09:07.140 --> 02:09:10.670
it's like, there's kind of like a, There's like Lakeshore Drive,
2389
02:09:10.710 --> 02:09:11.869
which is big.
2390
02:09:11.909 --> 02:09:15.430
It's basically a highway, right? It's like eight lanes. And
2391
02:09:15.470 --> 02:09:16.329
then there's a.
2392
02:09:16.329 --> 02:09:21.739
Convention center and Wintrust Arena is on the, I guess
2393
02:09:21.760 --> 02:09:24.680
it would be the west end of that convention center.
2394
02:09:24.720 --> 02:09:27.899
So it's like, I mean, every time we do these events,
2395
02:09:28.060 --> 02:09:29.720
this is, I think, the fifth time we've done an
2396
02:09:29.760 --> 02:09:33.010
event at Wintrust Arena. And we stay at the hotel
2397
02:09:33.050 --> 02:09:33.770
that's attached.
2398
02:09:34.369 --> 02:09:37.689
I will go walk over to Soldier Field to.
2399
02:09:38.649 --> 02:09:42.170
The Field Museum, where my gal Sue is at, the
2400
02:09:42.189 --> 02:09:47.100
largest T-Rex, the most complete T-Rex skeleton is at the
2401
02:09:47.140 --> 02:09:47.720
Field Museum.
2402
02:09:48.239 --> 02:09:50.840
I thought you were shouting at a museum worker, and
2403
02:09:50.859 --> 02:09:53.199
then you started to say largest, and I went, hold on.
2404
02:09:53.220 --> 02:09:57.770
My gal Sue, big old lady who works at the museum.
2405
02:09:58.409 --> 02:09:58.630
No.
2406
02:09:58.729 --> 02:10:04.640
Largest T-Rex fossil there. Yeah, most complete. It's an iconic fossil.
2407
02:10:04.720 --> 02:10:09.000
And now they have the Chicago Archaeopteryx there, which, of course,
2408
02:10:09.100 --> 02:10:14.520
was the first fossil that made us connect birds and dinosaurs.
2409
02:10:14.739 --> 02:10:15.050
Oh, yeah.
2410
02:10:15.949 --> 02:10:18.609
They've started to name the other ones. They've got a
2411
02:10:18.649 --> 02:10:20.590
titanosaur that they've tried to give a name.
2412
02:10:20.689 --> 02:10:23.949
I don't know it. They've got a spinosaurus that they've
2413
02:10:23.989 --> 02:10:25.779
tried to give a name. I don't know it. I'm
2414
02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:27.300
a Sioux guy myself. You're Sioux.
2415
02:10:27.819 --> 02:10:29.659
All you care about is Sioux. All I care about
2416
02:10:29.699 --> 02:10:32.579
is Sioux. There's a song in there somewhere, a dinosaur
2417
02:10:32.600 --> 02:10:33.119
named Sioux.
2418
02:10:33.300 --> 02:10:33.500
Yes.
2419
02:10:34.800 --> 02:10:37.520
So, yeah, Chicago's a great city if you've never had
2420
02:10:37.600 --> 02:10:38.479
a chance to go visit.
2421
02:10:38.859 --> 02:10:41.680
I've never been. I'm fascinated with just how you described it.
2422
02:10:42.270 --> 02:10:42.770
Obviously.
2423
02:10:43.829 --> 02:10:46.340
I know that White Sox is on the south side
2424
02:10:46.520 --> 02:10:49.659
and Wrigley's on the north side, so opposite ends of
2425
02:10:49.699 --> 02:10:50.079
each other.
2426
02:10:50.119 --> 02:10:52.880
I know that. I got that general idea.
2427
02:10:54.140 --> 02:10:59.079
It's interesting how big the Metro is, I guess, that
2428
02:10:59.260 --> 02:11:01.680
you've got– they have so many teams and yet none
2429
02:11:01.699 --> 02:11:03.260
of them are that close to each other.
2430
02:11:03.399 --> 02:11:03.640
Yeah.
2431
02:11:03.859 --> 02:11:06.140
Except for, of course, Blackhawks and Bulls who play in
2432
02:11:06.180 --> 02:11:06.699
the same arena.
2433
02:11:06.739 --> 02:11:09.500
You know, it's actually really kind of a shame, and
2434
02:11:09.539 --> 02:11:13.689
I don't think about other teams– arenas. I don't think
2435
02:11:13.729 --> 02:11:19.500
about other cities, stadiums very often, but it really is
2436
02:11:19.779 --> 02:11:23.369
a wonderful spot for soldier where soldier field is at
2437
02:11:23.609 --> 02:11:26.029
right on the shores of Lake Michigan. And right next
2438
02:11:26.109 --> 02:11:29.170
to the aquarium, the shed aquarium is right there.
2439
02:11:29.689 --> 02:11:30.760
The field museum is there.
2440
02:11:30.819 --> 02:11:36.140
It's like It's very much like the cultural hub of Chicago.
2441
02:11:36.159 --> 02:11:40.079
Is the Bean by Soldier Field? The Cloud Gate, as
2442
02:11:40.140 --> 02:11:44.140
it is officially known. It's all walking distance from one another.
2443
02:11:44.899 --> 02:11:47.619
What do they call it? The Miracle Mile? The Center
2444
02:11:47.640 --> 02:11:49.930
for Shopping? You can walk to all of that.
2445
02:11:50.510 --> 02:11:51.060
It's all there.
2446
02:11:52.609 --> 02:11:57.050
And now they're going to move the Bears to Hammond, Indiana.
2447
02:11:58.069 --> 02:11:59.689
Or if they don't, they're going to move to the
2448
02:11:59.729 --> 02:12:00.569
northern suburbs.
2449
02:12:00.649 --> 02:12:07.229
And it's like... soldier, like soldier field, it would be similar.
2450
02:12:07.250 --> 02:12:10.409
And we, we worried about this for a time about,
2451
02:12:10.489 --> 02:12:12.279
it would be if you, the same thing as if
2452
02:12:12.300 --> 02:12:16.270
you took the Delta center is like this, like, inflection
2453
02:12:16.350 --> 02:12:19.930
point this center of the that's where the concerts and
2454
02:12:19.970 --> 02:12:22.529
where the games and where the whatever if you took
2455
02:12:22.569 --> 02:12:25.270
that and you put it in draper or in lehigh
2456
02:12:25.289 --> 02:12:28.439
or vineyard is was one of the it would not
2457
02:12:28.619 --> 02:12:31.239
feel right it would you'd be like what is this
2458
02:12:31.420 --> 02:12:34.159
this is crazy and i don't know if bears fans
2459
02:12:34.199 --> 02:12:36.439
feel the exact same way about that but you know
2460
02:12:36.460 --> 02:12:41.100
they're when you think of chicago you're thinking of that
2461
02:12:41.239 --> 02:12:44.220
part of the city. You're thinking of the skyline in
2462
02:12:44.239 --> 02:12:48.479
the background, the lake right there, and these iconic places
2463
02:12:48.539 --> 02:12:52.560
where people go to visit and you ride the boats, the.
2464
02:12:52.520 --> 02:12:54.140
Duck boats and all that kind of stuff.
2465
02:12:54.180 --> 02:12:57.619
It's all right there, man, where the river gets dyed
2466
02:12:57.689 --> 02:12:58.909
green and you go through.
2467
02:12:58.930 --> 02:12:59.449
Yeah.
2468
02:12:59.569 --> 02:13:02.510
People like me who've never been know about, I didn't
2469
02:13:02.550 --> 02:13:04.810
know the official name, but know about the bean.
2470
02:13:05.109 --> 02:13:05.390
Right.
2471
02:13:05.649 --> 02:13:09.590
And like, it's because it like, that is the spot
2472
02:13:10.470 --> 02:13:14.100
where the bears should be. It's unfortunate that they couldn't
2473
02:13:14.319 --> 02:13:18.399
just do what Ryan Smith and Smith entertainment group eventually
2474
02:13:20.479 --> 02:13:23.720
ended up doing, which was just, you know, refurbish, make
2475
02:13:24.039 --> 02:13:29.149
the update, the arena, update the stadium. Cause soldier field
2476
02:13:29.449 --> 02:13:32.529
absolutely needs updating. That's why they're trying to get a
2477
02:13:32.550 --> 02:13:35.270
new field. It's like, well, why can't you just update
2478
02:13:35.289 --> 02:13:37.390
it and, Stay in the same spot. Well, they, they,
2479
02:13:37.409 --> 02:13:40.979
there's obviously lots of reasons. They did update it in 2003.
2480
02:13:40.979 --> 02:13:41.220
Yeah.
2481
02:13:41.989 --> 02:13:47.000
Which is like, I got to believe that you actually
2482
02:13:47.140 --> 02:13:50.039
could just keep it there and do something different.
2483
02:13:50.140 --> 02:13:50.779
You know what I mean?
2484
02:13:50.979 --> 02:13:53.600
You could tear it all down and build it as
2485
02:13:53.659 --> 02:13:55.359
a brand new state of the art thing that you're
2486
02:13:55.380 --> 02:13:55.979
trying to do.
2487
02:13:55.979 --> 02:13:57.060
In Hampton, Indiana.
2488
02:13:57.659 --> 02:13:58.119
Why not?
2489
02:13:58.340 --> 02:14:00.260
Northwestern has this brand new stadium.
2490
02:14:00.300 --> 02:14:02.619
You spend one year playing in that stadium while you
2491
02:14:02.640 --> 02:14:03.819
rebuild soldier field.
2492
02:14:04.670 --> 02:14:06.149
Let's go. I don't know, man.
2493
02:14:06.310 --> 02:14:10.159
I'm not here to solve Chicago's arena or stadium problems,
2494
02:14:10.239 --> 02:14:14.500
but there is this sentiment in professional sports and in
2495
02:14:14.579 --> 02:14:18.180
college sports, even where you constantly have to be upgrading
2496
02:14:18.199 --> 02:14:20.579
and you constantly have to be chasing some standard.
2497
02:14:21.199 --> 02:14:22.590
And I get it right.
2498
02:14:22.779 --> 02:14:26.109
You, you want amenities, especially when you're being charged 500
2499
02:14:26.109 --> 02:14:30.630
bucks a game for certain tickets. But when the owners
2500
02:14:30.710 --> 02:14:33.729
want a reason to charge, more for tickets for sure.
2501
02:14:33.869 --> 02:14:35.149
I mean, I know that there are a lot of
2502
02:14:35.189 --> 02:14:39.149
people who, who are like salty about the proposed changes
2503
02:14:39.210 --> 02:14:43.270
to downtown and the, the entertainment district and the remaking
2504
02:14:43.409 --> 02:14:46.890
of the salt palace and the walking corridor and all
2505
02:14:46.930 --> 02:14:53.140
that kind of stuff. And maybe, well, not maybe definitely
2506
02:14:53.960 --> 02:14:58.119
using tax dollars when you're billionaires is an ethical challenge
2507
02:14:58.220 --> 02:15:02.829
at the very least. However, When you look at those renderings,
2508
02:15:02.909 --> 02:15:05.210
I get caught up in the hype, man. It's going
2509
02:15:05.229 --> 02:15:06.260
to look really cool.
2510
02:15:06.880 --> 02:15:08.140
I would think there's going to be a lot of
2511
02:15:08.479 --> 02:15:10.300
foot traffic. Have you been to Vegas?
2512
02:15:10.920 --> 02:15:13.380
Have you been to Vegas in that end of Vegas
2513
02:15:13.399 --> 02:15:14.819
where T-Mobile Arena is now?
2514
02:15:15.020 --> 02:15:15.239
Yeah.
2515
02:15:16.100 --> 02:15:19.079
That's like right in the heart of the strip.
2516
02:15:19.180 --> 02:15:21.670
That corner of the strip where it's just like, I mean,
2517
02:15:21.810 --> 02:15:25.689
if you don't have tickets to a Golden Knights game, bummer.
2518
02:15:26.460 --> 02:15:29.500
But you can also just go stand on the Plaza,
2519
02:15:29.539 --> 02:15:31.859
go grab yourself some food, go sit on some of
2520
02:15:31.899 --> 02:15:34.680
the stuff. And you can watch the golden Knights game
2521
02:15:35.300 --> 02:15:36.560
on this massive screen.
2522
02:15:36.600 --> 02:15:37.979
They have on the side.
2523
02:15:37.739 --> 02:15:40.880
Of T-Mobile arena while you people watch all the, all
2524
02:15:40.920 --> 02:15:45.319
the Elvis impersonators and other impersonators on the streets of Vegas.
2525
02:15:45.380 --> 02:15:48.100
And you tell the fake Spider-Man that you're not going
2526
02:15:48.119 --> 02:15:49.470
to pay him for a photo with him.
2527
02:15:49.569 --> 02:15:52.890
It's unless, unless you go, wait, are you Devin Dampier
2528
02:15:52.909 --> 02:15:53.710
or Donovan Mitchell?
2529
02:15:54.479 --> 02:15:57.319
Okay, then no, I'm not going to take a photo.
2530
02:15:57.340 --> 02:16:00.140
So it was 2001 when the Chicago Park District and
2531
02:16:00.180 --> 02:16:05.699
local officials gave a approval for a modernization project that
2532
02:16:07.220 --> 02:16:11.260
basically added onto the facade of Soldier Field, made it
2533
02:16:11.279 --> 02:16:12.119
look like a spaceship.
2534
02:16:12.520 --> 02:16:12.779
Yeah.
2535
02:16:14.260 --> 02:16:22.479
That was completed in 2003, September 29th, 2003. 61,000 seats,
2536
02:16:22.479 --> 02:16:27.520
133 luxury seats, 8,600 club seats, two large video boards,
2537
02:16:29.000 --> 02:16:33.040
LED signage, underground parking garage. I didn't even know about that.
2538
02:16:34.139 --> 02:16:41.350
And added 17 acres of public parking space. And that
2539
02:16:41.389 --> 02:16:43.750
was 23 years ago, and now you're going to rip
2540
02:16:43.790 --> 02:16:47.219
it down and take the team outside of the city.
2541
02:16:47.319 --> 02:16:53.899
Outside of the state, probably. Yeah, I was... 100%.
2542
02:16:53.530 --> 02:16:57.239
Sure that with how much I enjoy Salt Lake bees games,
2543
02:16:58.819 --> 02:17:01.819
that I was going to attend games, not as many
2544
02:17:02.399 --> 02:17:05.700
as when they were right down on 13 South. I
2545
02:17:05.719 --> 02:17:07.440
was a hundred percent sure that I was going to
2546
02:17:07.799 --> 02:17:11.090
still attend at least a few Salt Lake bees games
2547
02:17:11.129 --> 02:17:13.469
a year. When they moved out to daybreak, I have
2548
02:17:13.489 --> 02:17:16.090
been to a grand total of zero since they moved.
2549
02:17:17.360 --> 02:17:21.219
And not because I haven't been invited. Our guy, Tony parks.
2550
02:17:20.979 --> 02:17:22.260
Will come in. Oh, come on.
2551
02:17:22.280 --> 02:17:22.360
Yeah.
2552
02:17:22.379 --> 02:17:25.200
And just come on out. Enjoy the park. It takes
2553
02:17:25.239 --> 02:17:29.139
an hour to get there when you got kids. And
2554
02:17:29.180 --> 02:17:30.659
if you want to ride the tracks, you got to
2555
02:17:30.700 --> 02:17:33.079
go park and you got to take the, like, it
2556
02:17:33.120 --> 02:17:35.200
takes the time of day that a lot of these
2557
02:17:35.260 --> 02:17:37.100
games are starting. You got to get on the road
2558
02:17:37.159 --> 02:17:41.309
and there's still residual traffic being left over from, from
2559
02:17:41.329 --> 02:17:44.270
people going home from work. I, I just, I haven't gone.
2560
02:17:45.100 --> 02:17:51.120
And I feel like having teams and arenas. centrally located
2561
02:17:51.159 --> 02:17:53.299
is the biggest no brainer in the world. And they're
2562
02:17:53.319 --> 02:17:56.059
going to take the soldier field and the bears out
2563
02:17:56.100 --> 02:17:59.899
to the burbs. It would have been an absolute travesty
2564
02:18:00.520 --> 02:18:04.329
to lose the Delta center to vineyard. And I think the,
2565
02:18:05.360 --> 02:18:08.049
knock on wood, cross your fingers, throw the salt, whatever
2566
02:18:08.079 --> 02:18:11.829
you do to fix your superstitions. When major league baseball
2567
02:18:12.729 --> 02:18:20.069
bestows upon this market, an expansion team, that power district
2568
02:18:20.129 --> 02:18:24.370
baseball field, that project they have out there is going
2569
02:18:24.409 --> 02:18:30.379
to then expand our entire downtown footprint because the between
2570
02:18:30.420 --> 02:18:32.659
here and there, sorry about gentrification.
2571
02:18:32.739 --> 02:18:33.479
Sorry, everyone.
2572
02:18:34.319 --> 02:18:37.000
On North temple right now that has decent rents and
2573
02:18:37.020 --> 02:18:41.079
in Rose park that has decent housing prices. I just,
2574
02:18:41.549 --> 02:18:44.930
I feel like that is going to change the dynamic
2575
02:18:44.969 --> 02:18:47.510
pretty significantly for those areas.
2576
02:18:49.090 --> 02:18:49.250
Yeah.
2577
02:18:49.290 --> 02:18:50.750
And hopefully you don't have.
2578
02:18:52.350 --> 02:18:56.610
That much of the, if not any, but realistically you're
2579
02:18:56.629 --> 02:18:58.870
probably going to have some of the negative effects of
2580
02:18:58.930 --> 02:19:02.149
gentrification in that area, in that area. Hopefully they're able
2581
02:19:02.170 --> 02:19:07.399
to avoid most of that. And still upgrade, update that
2582
02:19:07.500 --> 02:19:09.620
area in a way that will make it really cool.
2583
02:19:09.920 --> 02:19:11.360
I was going to say, I was going to chime
2584
02:19:11.399 --> 02:19:14.860
in and say, that's what we're talking about is a
2585
02:19:14.879 --> 02:19:18.319
reason why I love that the Millers are proposing a
2586
02:19:18.399 --> 02:19:22.750
park in Salt Lake City. Yes, not near what's been
2587
02:19:22.760 --> 02:19:26.389
the traditional downtown, but not that far from it. And also,
2588
02:19:27.129 --> 02:19:29.989
it's not the traditional downtown, but it's still a central area.
2589
02:19:30.510 --> 02:19:32.709
because right next to the fair park, like that's still
2590
02:19:32.750 --> 02:19:35.889
a spot where people go to, especially during fairs. It's
2591
02:19:35.930 --> 02:19:39.729
so accessible to and from downtown because already tracks line
2592
02:19:39.790 --> 02:19:43.030
is already there. I, I, and bus lines go there.
2593
02:19:43.079 --> 02:19:43.250
Yeah.
2594
02:19:43.899 --> 02:19:47.159
So our sideline reporter in the PFL is, um, she's
2595
02:19:48.219 --> 02:19:51.739
marrying a professional baseball pitcher, a guy who throws for
2596
02:19:51.780 --> 02:19:54.899
the Cardinals. And I'm like, just wait, this is going
2597
02:19:54.940 --> 02:19:57.750
to be for a visiting teams, uh, if we get
2598
02:19:57.780 --> 02:19:59.530
this park done and we get the team, this is
2599
02:19:59.549 --> 02:20:01.950
going to be like the most popular park to come
2600
02:20:01.989 --> 02:20:04.989
to basically across street from the airport. You fly in
2601
02:20:05.329 --> 02:20:08.969
and six minutes later, you're at the hotel. That's going
2602
02:20:09.010 --> 02:20:12.040
to be across from the park, the ballpark that is
2603
02:20:12.319 --> 02:20:13.940
five minutes away from the airport.
2604
02:20:13.979 --> 02:20:15.940
Everyone is going to love coming to Salt Lake city
2605
02:20:16.520 --> 02:20:16.940
in and out.
2606
02:20:17.020 --> 02:20:21.920
Like Devin talked about and Colton talked about, they, they
2607
02:20:21.940 --> 02:20:25.270
like night games at home. And I think even, uh,
2608
02:20:26.459 --> 02:20:28.979
I think on Spence's show, they talked about this as well.
2609
02:20:29.239 --> 02:20:31.600
Someone talked about this as well. They like night games
2610
02:20:31.659 --> 02:20:33.879
at home are ideal. It was Gooby Scott.
2611
02:20:34.020 --> 02:20:38.950
He, he, he mentioned it too. Road night games are
2612
02:20:39.250 --> 02:20:39.930
kind of the worst.
2613
02:20:40.370 --> 02:20:45.190
And that actually informed probably why rice Eccles has been
2614
02:20:45.370 --> 02:20:49.950
such a fortress at night is because those have been,
2615
02:20:50.620 --> 02:20:52.819
and why it's been fortunate that Utah has, has had
2616
02:20:52.879 --> 02:20:58.100
most of those kind of, kickoffs at home because apparently
2617
02:20:58.180 --> 02:21:02.139
that's like almost nightmarish for road teams to be able
2618
02:21:02.159 --> 02:21:04.280
to have to play at that game. And it kind
2619
02:21:04.299 --> 02:21:07.500
of informs maybe why they were so, why Utah was
2620
02:21:07.520 --> 02:21:10.079
so off against Colorado for at least one reason.
2621
02:21:10.120 --> 02:21:10.260
Why?
2622
02:21:11.780 --> 02:21:12.040
All right.
2623
02:21:12.059 --> 02:21:13.540
Got to take a break. We're going to come back.
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We're going to give away some Nickelback tickets and then
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we'll send it to rally house where Spence checkups is
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doing his show from today. It's Utah's number one sports
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talk ESPN 700 at 92, one FM.
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You're tuned to.
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The Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of.
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ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.
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877-353-0700.
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Nickelback is coming to the Delta Center April 22nd of
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next year.
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A pair of.
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Tickets if you could answer this trivia question. Utah Jazz
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opened their regular season last night. Darren Peterson making his
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NBA regular season debut after being the number two overall
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pick for the Utah Jazz in the last NBA draft.
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How many points did DP score in his first regular
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season NBA game? 877-353-0700 for a pair of Nickelback tickets
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if you've got.
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The correct answer. Stay tuned for the drive with Spence Checketts.
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He's at Rally House just next door to Trader Joe's
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on 4th South. Go grab your Utah gear. They've got
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Little Caesars pizza. They're giving away a pair of tickets
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to Utah BYU. They've got a signed Devin Dampier helmet
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to give away and tailgate passes for the Holy War
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as well. A perfect day for you to show up
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and snag some swag over there at Rally House. They've
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got blackout gear for the blackout game. Tell them that
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OC sent you. And don't forget some ESPN 700 taffy
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from Taffytown. No doubt that's going to be there, too.
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That's the biggest draw of all. Thanks for listening. Stay
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tuned for The Drive. We'll do the Sean O'Connell show
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again tomorrow on ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM.