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Welcome to The Scrumptious Woman.
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And with me, a very scrumptious woman in the UK.
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Hello Jay.
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Welcome to the Scrumptious Woman.
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Welcome.
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Joining me today.
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I'm super excited about it.
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You are a reality recoding master.
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Genie.
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I don't know how to call it, but I love that.
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And I think you and I have been in the same atmosphere, in the same realms, conscious sexuality for a long time.
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And I have loved seeing your evolvement.
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Thank you.
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Tell me a little bit more.
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Pattern detector.
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I call myself a pattern detector, but I see that you have a lot of the similar things that I do with people.
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How did you get here?
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You're a mom of a beautiful little girl.
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She is a little doll.
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She's not a baby anymore, right?
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No, she's not.
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She's six.
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That's gone quick.
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Tell us a little bit about your journey and what brought you here.
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Good lord.
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Well, just you know, all the good things, my own trauma, basically, made me an exceptional healer.
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And interestingly, and I'm 46 now, which is quite strange to say.
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But I started doing this work in the 90s when drinking a cup of herbal tea was enough to have you ousted from the group and be seen as extremely strange.
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Now there wasn't yoga on every corner.
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And a little like 18-year-old me was going off to qualifying Reiki.
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And I think I was a Reiki master by the time I was 21.
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And I was actually working in a cancer support center of like getting my psychology degree.
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I was doing kind of doing all these, you know, weird and wonderful things on the side.
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I think for a long time, for more than 25 years, I've really been in the pursuit of this question.
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This one question really, which is why do some people heal and some people don't?
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Why and how are the best ways that we can thrive despite what life throws at us?
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So I had, you know, everything's comparable, but I, you know, a number of really quite significant traumas to overcome.
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And still at the same time, although I was dealing with a lot of stuff and I was um, you know, having a lot of my own personal insecurities, so on and so forth, I always kind of had this sneaky knowing that it doesn't have to be like this.
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It doesn't have to be this hard.
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I could I was aware enough to see that other people weren't struggling the way that I was struggling, that other people were living in a different way.
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And I guess I could I sort of went on this quest of like why why why do things this particular these things feel hard for me?
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Why do relationships feel hard for me?
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Why have we got why is there so much stuff around body image after a after abuse?
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And I think now after you know doing this work for such a long time, I see how a woman's body image is so connected actually to her visibility and to so deep in a business.
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And it's not always like, oh, I don't know if I look good on camera.
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It's usually quite a bit deeper than that of the fear of rejection and and things like that.
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So you know, it's been this long, there is no like, what was your one turning point?
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Like, no, there were 52 of those.
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They were on all occasions, right?
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For a lot of people, there wasn't the one turning point.
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People ask me that.
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I'm like, oh, there were actually a few turning points.
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Most of them were I noticed in my body when I said something that like 20 kilos came off just by saying the thing, or being flogged in uh in a BDSM class, and all of a sudden all that trauma started coming back.
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And I was like, holy crap, okay.
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But you know, so it's never just the one thing.
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And what I love about you is I think it was last week you also send me a message saying, Hey, I think I talked about my mother who had said that is just what men do.
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When I had expressed to her that at seven years old that my uncle was molesting me, there were a few family members who are doing inappropriate stuff with me as a seven-year-old.
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And she just kind of said, Oh, well, yeah, that's just what men do.
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And not trying to be harmful, but planting that seed that is just like, oh, okay, well, we've just got to accept it.
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Oh, we don't.
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Right?
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And I think that was the really beautiful thing where you're working, you've got a daughter, you're working with generational trauma as well, and recoding that.
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Um we don't have to take this, where we don't have to take the wealth imprint that we have either.
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So that was the thing I'd read that and I'd read what you were saying about one taste as well, and about how you'd been offered money.
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That's what it was.
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Okay, you see, I was trying to link the two.
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Yeah.
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And you decided not to take it.
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And I was like, how interesting, you know, when my parents found out about the abuse that I'd had from a grandparent, that grandparent offered to write my mother a check and basically said, I'll I'll write you a check, and basically then it will all go away.
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And she didn't take that money, not for the silencing part, but you know, she'd have taken the money for compensation, that's one thing.
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But she was like, Absolutely not, I don't want your money.
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This is not about that.
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What was interesting about that is many, many, many, many years later, and I mean in my late 30s, probably even early, very early 40s, I was in a session about money, and that thing came up, like that story, that knowing like I don't want to be corrupted by money.
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So I will, you know, I was making money, I was losing money.
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That old feast and farming programme, I was making money, I was losing money.
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I was like, what the fuck gives you?
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And it got really clear.
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I was like, I don't want to be that kind of person that is so corrupted by money that will use it in that way.
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And because that imprint was there and it'd been in me, and it was, you know, it also imprinted my mother for sure, you know, someone trying to silence something awful that happened to a little girl.
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And, you know, I work with money trauma with people all the time, and there's so many different things that we're just completely unaware of that actually are kind of moving under this service, this undercurrent that we have kind of going on where we think I'm smart, I'm clever, I'm capable, I've got all the qualifications, people love me.
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Why is this so hard?
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It doesn't make sense.
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And that's often the thing, right?
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Why is it so hard?
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I've done 20,000 certifications.
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I mean, ITV at the moment is in talks with me about coming on a show.
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And yesterday I said, Oh, can you send us your qualifications?
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So I'm like, Where are they, right?
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It's like, yeah, the ones that I have the names of.
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I'm like, which ones, right?
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And I think if we're in this, and and like you, I've been in this for, you know, 25 years, starting as a Senko special educational needs coordinator.
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You just you roll up from one thing into another.
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And for me, that's why I always say sign off with following the breadcrumbs of my Substack, because that's what it was, right?
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It's like, oh, the next little thing.
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But how many of us have had those feast or famine days, or still they come back and then you know they're gone for a while, and then they're sneaky and they repeat again.
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So, to our listeners listening, what are maybe one or two things that they can start becoming aware of this?
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So I'd actually like to give them a really practical process that I use with my clients, one-to-one clients and group coaching clients, because it when you've written it, you can't really hide from it.
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So using a particular money amount is really good.
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So let's say you're after a 20k month or a 30k month, or maybe you want consistent, a consistent amount of money.
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I don't know if consistency actually exists in entrepreneurial real land, but you know, let's say you're going after 10k months or 50k months, whatever it is, don't really matter.
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You want to just write that as a sentence at the top of a piece of paper.
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I want consistent 25k months, but and then you set a timer for 20 minutes and you keep your pen moving and you just fill that sentence.
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You've complete that sentence for 20 minutes.
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About 10 minutes, you might get a bit annoyed, you might think you're done.
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Continue.
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About 15 to 16 minutes, weird stuff is gonna come out, old memories are gonna come out, things that maybe haven't even happened to you, but you heard Uncle John went bankrupt as soon as he made had his highest cash month, or someone got attacked, or someone you know turned into a bad person or whatever, a lot of it will start to come out, and it's only you and your subconscious, then you've got something to work with.
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I use reality recoding, that's what I teach, and that's the program that I have.
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But you can also do tapping, you can do movement-based work.
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But for me, really getting to the crux of why that I guess the second question, so the second thing I would say after that, that really is so pointant, so powerful, is to get super radically honest with yourself and say, okay, so here's the belief.
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I do want that, but so how is it benefiting me to stay hold of that belief?
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Oh, hello.
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A little bit of carrying Ellie Hurt's work.
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Yeah.
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So, like, what's my kinky mind saying that wants to keep that?
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Often it's just fear and fear protection.
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Like, why does my mind think that's a good idea to hold on to?
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Who who am I afraid of being if I don't have it?
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That is like the most powerful, and then you can really start excavating that shit and be like, oh, because nine times out of ten when I'm working with like high income clients, they're usually just looking in the wrong direction because they're smart, highly qualified, they're used to solving problems, right?
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So that's why it's so frustrating.
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They're usually it's just like, okay, instead of looking there, we actually just think like this thing that you've not thought about for 10 years actually might be the thing.
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Like, let's clean that up.
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And everything just then sort of starts to take care of itself.
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It's incredible, right?
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So automatic writing, and then really, if you even notice with my clients that all of a sudden, yeah, it's like, okay, we're actually gonna go and clean up your wardrobe.
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And they're like, what the fuck?
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That's not gonna make me money.
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And then, yeah, after I give them the exercise, they're like, shit, 10 10k just came in.
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I'm like, yeah.
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Oh wow.
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Right?
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Sometimes it's just doing those things, or it's like, you know, how long have you not done your your whatever your taxes or your this or your that?
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Because the energy just gets blocked in different ways.
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I agree.
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That is and that's been one of the things that I've definitely had to work on is like being on top of numbers.
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Because I'm I've very much been in the camp of like, I'll just make the money, I'll just make the money.
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It's like, no, no, no, you need to keep it and stack it and try kind of track it as well.
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You need to know where it's going and what it's doing, you know, like be on top of your numbers.
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And that's a stretch.
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And because I'm a bit ADHD, I've I kind of realize that me going out to a cafe or the co-working space, almost body doubling, is what actually works best for me.
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And I'm, you know, embarrassed to say how very recent it is that I've actually realized that's kind of what I need is left to my own devices.
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I might know what to do.
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But it's like, okay, I've got if I get a bit of body doubling in place, if I get like somebody to keep me accountable, then I can do it and I will do it.
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But without that, I mean like I'm chasing my tail a bit.
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But isn't that what we all need?
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I mean, yeah, you can go to the gym and you can be very motivated and do your own exercises.
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But most of us need like either a class or someone to kick our butt a little bit and say, hey, uh pick up again.
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And this is what if we think about coaching therapy, this is really what it is, right?
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Because if we're just left to our own devices, the phone we can pick up, or all of a sudden, like, you know, cleaning the house becomes really important.
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And and that's just the little patterns that are little sneaky bitches.
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Yeah, they are sneaky little bitches, and you have to really catch them like, no, we're not doing this again.
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That is an intense story about your grandparents.
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Well, that's just that's just the half of it, mate.
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Is your mother still alive?
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Yeah, my mum is, um, my dad is, I haven't seen my dad for a long time.
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Just such a traumatic effect on on her, particularly.
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Not necessarily my dad, he just fled the situation and just was like, that didn't happen.
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I'm done with it.
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Um, but I I can see like, you know, different things in her life, not just that, but other things that had happened, whereas this accumulation of money trauma, and then that accumulates over a lifetime, and we make a st we make a story from that because it's our true experience that that's the way that it is that money corrupts people, so it's not safe to have money because what kind of a person would I become?
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I think that's for a lot of good-hearted people.
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If you don't care about standing on someone's head to get to where you want to go, then you're not gonna worry about any of these things.
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If you are more heart-led and more kind of heart-focused and community focused, we tend to worry about these things a lot.
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And the people who should be getting, I believe, should be getting more money, should have things funded that are of contribution to humanity, struggling more than the people who don't mind standing on people's heads.
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And I would really like for that to change.
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Besides those two exercises that you gave us already, what do you think people look at?
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How do we change that?
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Because there's something about the whole healing industry though, where it's just like, can we just stop with that word even?
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Right?
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It just it implies that something is needs to be fixed, something is broken.
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Do you mean like in terms of like practitioners and money?
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There's a lot of people that do this work that have beliefs like, oh my god, you know, I'm not a good practitioner if I'm rich or if I make money.
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You know, I should be able to give this away for free or for very, you know, for only what people can afford.
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I want to help everyone.
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Definitely.
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I've been working with healers for a long time and lots of different types of practitioners.
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I'm just gonna go in at the deep end because that's me, intense and deep and fast and furious.
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Um, we've had a lot of past lives doing this work.
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For most of us, this is not our first rodeo.
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This is the not the first time we've, you know, unleashed our magic.
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And so there are a few different things that I see come up.
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One is, you know, what we might call a witch wound, which is being persecuted for our gifts.
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And I think those of us who are that little bit older, me, I remember a time when it was like the conversations that we see online now about all kinds of different healing, breath work, energy work, like that just did not exist.
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Like you were not welcome to have that conversation.
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People thought you were extremely strange and weird.
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It's it's it's different now, not everywhere, not all the time.
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But you know, that's moved on massively.
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So part of that witch wounding is like knowing that people didn't want the pattern recognition people around them because you tell the truth.
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And a lot of people, you know, it took me a long time to realize a lot of people actually built their lives on illusion and status quo.
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So being that healer and having that healer archetype, you've always been the one who stands out, who sees things, who maybe tells the truth, who has a different point of view and doesn't confirm.
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And that means you get ousted from the group.
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So there's a lot of fear with that, and that keeps what I found with that kind of thing and and fear of persecution, literally fear of losing your life if you become too visible.
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Yeah.
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Like check, check, check, check, work through those.
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Um that it keeps people at a very sort of safe level of money when it comes to money.
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Let's say that hit more money than they've made before, but they'll be like then there's a retraction, they'll hit a high cash month, for instance, and then some shit goes down in the business or some shit goes down in that in the house that pulls them away from it because they've kind of hit that upper limit, but subconsciously, so when I'm talking about that undercurrent, subconsciously, what's happening is that practitioner doesn't feel safe.
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It's not just like, oh, what will people think of me if I have so much more money?
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No, it's much deeper than that.
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It's actually if people see that I'm making more money, I am more vulnerable to attack.
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The more visible that I become and the bigger my business grows, the more possibility I have to be literally burned at the stake.
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Now, as we stand, thank God we're not at burning state levels right now.
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There's lots of very weird shit going on in the world happening in the states.
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But it's like, oh, it's all starting to become scarily familiar, to be honest.
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But you know, so we can understand why people struggle with the money.
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And then the other thing is, having had lifetimes as a healer, a practitioner, a shaman, whatever it is, we do different things in different lifetimes, right?
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Manipulators and movers of energy.
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Um, that per usually that person in the village was taken care of by the village.
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So that was their job.
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Everybody had their little role and their little job, and nobody particularly made much more than anyone else, but the heel of the shaman was taken care of by the village, and some people are still rolling like that.
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I've got a gas bill, my gas don't know about your gas bills, but my gas bill has gone up astronomically.
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You know, I also have a child to pay for, I have a car, I have da-da-da-da-da like all those things need paying for.
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Like, the village isn't paying for me anymore, and sometimes we have to catch up our energy system with that.
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We have to catch up our old ancient belief system.
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Be like, hello, we're in 2026 now, like no one's paying you anymore just to sit at home and be in be in the village.
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And this thing about it not being fair, like if I have more than others, I think because a lot of the religions are focused on this Puritan ethic, so we can we come from a t more tantric background where we've been able to move through a lot of that stuff and and and shift some of this.
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But most religion, even if you're not a religious person, we still live under a religious ideology in our countries.
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Completely.
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And that's where we were taught the less that you have, the closer you are to God.
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So again, and that's for everyday people.
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So again, as a healer, as a practitioner, as someone who's a devotee of any kind, that message is centuries old.
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It's like you should have nothing to be close to God.
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You should have nothing to be close to God.
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Which it's a lot of the religions, it's the same.
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Yeah.
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And it's and it's a it's a big fat lie because even a mango tree is abundant.
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Yeah.
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And that's the funny thing.
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I remember sitting in um in my vision quest after my sister had passed away.
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I was like, okay, I've just got to do this.
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And sitting there, no water, because I'd, you know, dropped my water bottles.
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I kept going down to the river and get some water, no food, nothing in the in the middle of the Pyrenees somewhere.
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Um all of a sudden you just look at nature and everything is growing through each other, and nothing is too afraid to be visible or to ask for sunlight or oxygen or whatever.
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And you just laugh at the absurdity of what keeps us back.
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But I remember when I first started this podcast, it got to like top two and a half percent really quickly, and I was like, Woo! Okay, this is I wanted to be visible, but this is like, yo, I mean I'm this is this is a bit much now.
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And that's where it's just funny, right?
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Where you swing from one side to the other, and your body just sometimes needs to catch up.
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And this is where I say, like, unclenched those butt cheeks, because that is actually where you hold a hell of a lot of attention.
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True, true story.
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Number one takeaway of the day, just like stop being a tight ass and relax a little bit.
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It's just so funny how we are indoctrinated, how we have taken on these beliefs, these patterns.
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Yeah, I think like for for me, like that's that's my jam, isn't it?
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Like that's that's what I do.
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You know, sat like I don't know how many clients I've ever had, you know, have been doing it a long time in different capacities.
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And there's always something deeper at play.
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Like, usually what we think is the problem isn't the problem.
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We think the problem's money, it's not money, it's something else that's gone on, you know, money's never really the problem.
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Um, but I think what a lot of us don't realise is the extent to which we're programmed, and something that you know I have a kind of strong philosophy about, especially at this point in history, where we are right now, if we don't take control of our own programming, if we don't take control of programming ourselves, it will be done for you.
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There is a huge drive to program the minds of people, to program the minds and hearts.
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You know, there's lots of conversations about, you know, psyops and bots, and you know, um, not just around vote for this politics, vote for this person, vote for the other person, but even you know, swaying social morality, swaying social norms.
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There's uh an extraordinary amount that's happening on lots of different levels.
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And for me, if we don't learn to code ourselves, we're complete, we're open to it being done to us and for us.
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So for me, it's like it's really imperative that we start to do some of this work and unpick like what's actually been inherited and start to start to question is this is this even true?
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Is this what I want?
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Can this be changed?
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Completely.
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And I I you hit the nail right on the dot, right?
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And where there's we look at what's happening, the manosphere and the epistemiles and all these.
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I mean, if we just look at the woman against men, you know, or or sexual assault, what has been normalized?
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And now all of a sudden it's like, oh my God, but if you even look back at like, I'm 58, so when I was in my 20s, the language that was used towards women was very different than today.
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The language that we're using today is different from say 10 years ago, and it just keeps evolving, but at the same people, at the same time, people are getting programmed with more of social media, with with you know with everything that we are taking in.
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And that's why I think you'll probably agree that both of us will say it's like, hey, put your phone, put your screens away for a certain amount of time so that you know you can actually get the downloads.
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Yeah.
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I think we've got to tune in again.
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We need to spend a bit more time tuning in.
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And I think, you know, even for me, like I live and breathe this, but the m what I know about me is the more stressed I am and the more pressure I have, and of course we're living in a in a in a soup at the moment, which is increasing stress and pressure, like the harder it is for me to hear.
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And that's someone who is a psychic channel and like does that for a living.
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So I can't imagine how challenging it can be for people who are not yet proficient in that.
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But we we got to make that time basically, is that having that time, having that time out, having downtime, having some just some quiet time.
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Like for me, one of the most simple things works the best, going for a walk.
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For a walk, cooking, uh, taking a bath, putting the phone away because it's so easy.
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Like, yeah, the last thing you stroke at night might not be the person next to you, but it's actually your screen.
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Like, night night, love you, see you tomorrow.
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I know.
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Crazy.
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And that's what I really see that we're in an epidemic of loneliness, of people turning towards their scream but away from each other.
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Jay, tell us where can everyone find you?
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Everything will be in the show notes, of course.
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But just let us know.
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So probably I am still, you know, for my sins, quite Facebook oriented.
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So it's Lady J Diamond on Facebook.
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Um, the only Jay Diamond on Instagram.
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These are the best places to find me.
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I'm trying with LinkedIn, but we're not there yet.
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Love it.
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Those are perfect places to find you.
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I love it.
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The only and the lady J Diamond.
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So either of those handles, you'll find her.
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Thank you so much for coming on.
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Thank you.
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Lovely to chat.
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Welcome to The Scrumptious Woman.
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And with me, a very scrumptious woman in the UK.
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Hello Jay.
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Welcome to the Scrumptious Woman.
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Welcome.
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Joining me today.
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I'm super excited about it.
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You are a reality recoding master.
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Genie.
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I don't know how to call it, but I love that.
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And I think you and I have been in the same atmosphere, in the same realms, conscious sexuality for a long time.
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And I have loved seeing your evolvement.
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Thank you.
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Tell me a little bit more.
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Pattern detector.
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I call myself a pattern detector, but I see that you have a lot of the similar things that I do with people.
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How did you get here?
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You're a mom of a beautiful little girl.
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She is a little doll.
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She's not a baby anymore, right?
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No, she's not.
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She's six.
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That's gone quick.
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Tell us a little bit about your journey and what brought you here.
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Good lord.
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Well, just you know, all the good things, my own trauma, basically, made me an exceptional healer.
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And interestingly, and I'm 46 now, which is quite strange to say.
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But I started doing this work in the 90s when drinking a cup of herbal tea was enough to have you ousted from the group and be seen as extremely strange.
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Now there wasn't yoga on every corner.
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And a little like 18-year-old me was going off to qualifying Reiki.
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And I think I was a Reiki master by the time I was 21.
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And I was actually working in a cancer support center of like getting my psychology degree.
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I was doing kind of doing all these, you know, weird and wonderful things on the side.
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I think for a long time, for more than 25 years, I've really been in the pursuit of this question.
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This one question really, which is why do some people heal and some people don't?
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Why and how are the best ways that we can thrive despite what life throws at us?
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So I had, you know, everything's comparable, but I, you know, a number of really quite significant traumas to overcome.
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And still at the same time, although I was dealing with a lot of stuff and I was um, you know, having a lot of my own personal insecurities, so on and so forth, I always kind of had this sneaky knowing that it doesn't have to be like this.
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It doesn't have to be this hard.
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I could I was aware enough to see that other people weren't struggling the way that I was struggling, that other people were living in a different way.
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And I guess I could I sort of went on this quest of like why why why do things this particular these things feel hard for me?
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Why do relationships feel hard for me?
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Why have we got why is there so much stuff around body image after a after abuse?
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And I think now after you know doing this work for such a long time, I see how a woman's body image is so connected actually to her visibility and to so deep in a business.
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And it's not always like, oh, I don't know if I look good on camera.
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It's usually quite a bit deeper than that of the fear of rejection and and things like that.
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So you know, it's been this long, there is no like, what was your one turning point?
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Like, no, there were 52 of those.
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They were on all occasions, right?
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For a lot of people, there wasn't the one turning point.
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People ask me that.
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I'm like, oh, there were actually a few turning points.
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Most of them were I noticed in my body when I said something that like 20 kilos came off just by saying the thing, or being flogged in uh in a BDSM class, and all of a sudden all that trauma started coming back.
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And I was like, holy crap, okay.
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But you know, so it's never just the one thing.
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And what I love about you is I think it was last week you also send me a message saying, Hey, I think I talked about my mother who had said that is just what men do.
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When I had expressed to her that at seven years old that my uncle was molesting me, there were a few family members who are doing inappropriate stuff with me as a seven-year-old.
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And she just kind of said, Oh, well, yeah, that's just what men do.
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And not trying to be harmful, but planting that seed that is just like, oh, okay, well, we've just got to accept it.
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Oh, we don't.
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Right?
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And I think that was the really beautiful thing where you're working, you've got a daughter, you're working with generational trauma as well, and recoding that.
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Um we don't have to take this, where we don't have to take the wealth imprint that we have either.
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So that was the thing I'd read that and I'd read what you were saying about one taste as well, and about how you'd been offered money.
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That's what it was.
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Okay, you see, I was trying to link the two.
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Yeah.
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And you decided not to take it.
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And I was like, how interesting, you know, when my parents found out about the abuse that I'd had from a grandparent, that grandparent offered to write my mother a check and basically said, I'll I'll write you a check, and basically then it will all go away.
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And she didn't take that money, not for the silencing part, but you know, she'd have taken the money for compensation, that's one thing.
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But she was like, Absolutely not, I don't want your money.
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This is not about that.
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What was interesting about that is many, many, many, many years later, and I mean in my late 30s, probably even early, very early 40s, I was in a session about money, and that thing came up, like that story, that knowing like I don't want to be corrupted by money.
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So I will, you know, I was making money, I was losing money.
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That old feast and farming programme, I was making money, I was losing money.
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I was like, what the fuck gives you?
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And it got really clear.
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I was like, I don't want to be that kind of person that is so corrupted by money that will use it in that way.
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And because that imprint was there and it'd been in me, and it was, you know, it also imprinted my mother for sure, you know, someone trying to silence something awful that happened to a little girl.
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And, you know, I work with money trauma with people all the time, and there's so many different things that we're just completely unaware of that actually are kind of moving under this service, this undercurrent that we have kind of going on where we think I'm smart, I'm clever, I'm capable, I've got all the qualifications, people love me.
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Why is this so hard?
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It doesn't make sense.
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And that's often the thing, right?
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Why is it so hard?
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I've done 20,000 certifications.
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I mean, ITV at the moment is in talks with me about coming on a show.
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And yesterday I said, Oh, can you send us your qualifications?
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So I'm like, Where are they, right?
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It's like, yeah, the ones that I have the names of.
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I'm like, which ones, right?
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And I think if we're in this, and and like you, I've been in this for, you know, 25 years, starting as a Senko special educational needs coordinator.
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You just you roll up from one thing into another.
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And for me, that's why I always say sign off with following the breadcrumbs of my Substack, because that's what it was, right?
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It's like, oh, the next little thing.
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But how many of us have had those feast or famine days, or still they come back and then you know they're gone for a while, and then they're sneaky and they repeat again.
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So, to our listeners listening, what are maybe one or two things that they can start becoming aware of this?
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So I'd actually like to give them a really practical process that I use with my clients, one-to-one clients and group coaching clients, because it when you've written it, you can't really hide from it.
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So using a particular money amount is really good.
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So let's say you're after a 20k month or a 30k month, or maybe you want consistent, a consistent amount of money.
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I don't know if consistency actually exists in entrepreneurial real land, but you know, let's say you're going after 10k months or 50k months, whatever it is, don't really matter.
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You want to just write that as a sentence at the top of a piece of paper.
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I want consistent 25k months, but and then you set a timer for 20 minutes and you keep your pen moving and you just fill that sentence.
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You've complete that sentence for 20 minutes.
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About 10 minutes, you might get a bit annoyed, you might think you're done.
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Continue.
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About 15 to 16 minutes, weird stuff is gonna come out, old memories are gonna come out, things that maybe haven't even happened to you, but you heard Uncle John went bankrupt as soon as he made had his highest cash month, or someone got attacked, or someone you know turned into a bad person or whatever, a lot of it will start to come out, and it's only you and your subconscious, then you've got something to work with.
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I use reality recoding, that's what I teach, and that's the program that I have.
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But you can also do tapping, you can do movement-based work.
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But for me, really getting to the crux of why that I guess the second question, so the second thing I would say after that, that really is so pointant, so powerful, is to get super radically honest with yourself and say, okay, so here's the belief.
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I do want that, but so how is it benefiting me to stay hold of that belief?
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Oh, hello.
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A little bit of carrying Ellie Hurt's work.
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Yeah.
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So, like, what's my kinky mind saying that wants to keep that?
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Often it's just fear and fear protection.
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Like, why does my mind think that's a good idea to hold on to?
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Who who am I afraid of being if I don't have it?
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That is like the most powerful, and then you can really start excavating that shit and be like, oh, because nine times out of ten when I'm working with like high income clients, they're usually just looking in the wrong direction because they're smart, highly qualified, they're used to solving problems, right?
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So that's why it's so frustrating.
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They're usually it's just like, okay, instead of looking there, we actually just think like this thing that you've not thought about for 10 years actually might be the thing.
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Like, let's clean that up.
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And everything just then sort of starts to take care of itself.
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It's incredible, right?
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So automatic writing, and then really, if you even notice with my clients that all of a sudden, yeah, it's like, okay, we're actually gonna go and clean up your wardrobe.
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And they're like, what the fuck?
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That's not gonna make me money.
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And then, yeah, after I give them the exercise, they're like, shit, 10 10k just came in.
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I'm like, yeah.
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Oh wow.
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Right?
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Sometimes it's just doing those things, or it's like, you know, how long have you not done your your whatever your taxes or your this or your that?
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Because the energy just gets blocked in different ways.
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I agree.
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That is and that's been one of the things that I've definitely had to work on is like being on top of numbers.
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Because I'm I've very much been in the camp of like, I'll just make the money, I'll just make the money.
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It's like, no, no, no, you need to keep it and stack it and try kind of track it as well.
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You need to know where it's going and what it's doing, you know, like be on top of your numbers.
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And that's a stretch.
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And because I'm a bit ADHD, I've I kind of realize that me going out to a cafe or the co-working space, almost body doubling, is what actually works best for me.
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And I'm, you know, embarrassed to say how very recent it is that I've actually realized that's kind of what I need is left to my own devices.
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I might know what to do.
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But it's like, okay, I've got if I get a bit of body doubling in place, if I get like somebody to keep me accountable, then I can do it and I will do it.
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But without that, I mean like I'm chasing my tail a bit.
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But isn't that what we all need?
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I mean, yeah, you can go to the gym and you can be very motivated and do your own exercises.
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But most of us need like either a class or someone to kick our butt a little bit and say, hey, uh pick up again.
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And this is what if we think about coaching therapy, this is really what it is, right?
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Because if we're just left to our own devices, the phone we can pick up, or all of a sudden, like, you know, cleaning the house becomes really important.
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And and that's just the little patterns that are little sneaky bitches.
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Yeah, they are sneaky little bitches, and you have to really catch them like, no, we're not doing this again.
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That is an intense story about your grandparents.
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Well, that's just that's just the half of it, mate.
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Is your mother still alive?
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Yeah, my mum is, um, my dad is, I haven't seen my dad for a long time.
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Just such a traumatic effect on on her, particularly.
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Not necessarily my dad, he just fled the situation and just was like, that didn't happen.
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I'm done with it.
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Um, but I I can see like, you know, different things in her life, not just that, but other things that had happened, whereas this accumulation of money trauma, and then that accumulates over a lifetime, and we make a st we make a story from that because it's our true experience that that's the way that it is that money corrupts people, so it's not safe to have money because what kind of a person would I become?
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I think that's for a lot of good-hearted people.
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If you don't care about standing on someone's head to get to where you want to go, then you're not gonna worry about any of these things.
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If you are more heart-led and more kind of heart-focused and community focused, we tend to worry about these things a lot.
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And the people who should be getting, I believe, should be getting more money, should have things funded that are of contribution to humanity, struggling more than the people who don't mind standing on people's heads.
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And I would really like for that to change.
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Besides those two exercises that you gave us already, what do you think people look at?
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How do we change that?
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Because there's something about the whole healing industry though, where it's just like, can we just stop with that word even?
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Right?
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It just it implies that something is needs to be fixed, something is broken.
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Do you mean like in terms of like practitioners and money?
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There's a lot of people that do this work that have beliefs like, oh my god, you know, I'm not a good practitioner if I'm rich or if I make money.
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You know, I should be able to give this away for free or for very, you know, for only what people can afford.
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I want to help everyone.
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Definitely.
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I've been working with healers for a long time and lots of different types of practitioners.
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I'm just gonna go in at the deep end because that's me, intense and deep and fast and furious.
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Um, we've had a lot of past lives doing this work.
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For most of us, this is not our first rodeo.
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This is the not the first time we've, you know, unleashed our magic.
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And so there are a few different things that I see come up.
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One is, you know, what we might call a witch wound, which is being persecuted for our gifts.
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And I think those of us who are that little bit older, me, I remember a time when it was like the conversations that we see online now about all kinds of different healing, breath work, energy work, like that just did not exist.
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Like you were not welcome to have that conversation.
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People thought you were extremely strange and weird.
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It's it's it's different now, not everywhere, not all the time.
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But you know, that's moved on massively.
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So part of that witch wounding is like knowing that people didn't want the pattern recognition people around them because you tell the truth.
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And a lot of people, you know, it took me a long time to realize a lot of people actually built their lives on illusion and status quo.
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So being that healer and having that healer archetype, you've always been the one who stands out, who sees things, who maybe tells the truth, who has a different point of view and doesn't confirm.
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And that means you get ousted from the group.
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So there's a lot of fear with that, and that keeps what I found with that kind of thing and and fear of persecution, literally fear of losing your life if you become too visible.
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Yeah.
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Like check, check, check, check, work through those.
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Um that it keeps people at a very sort of safe level of money when it comes to money.
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Let's say that hit more money than they've made before, but they'll be like then there's a retraction, they'll hit a high cash month, for instance, and then some shit goes down in the business or some shit goes down in that in the house that pulls them away from it because they've kind of hit that upper limit, but subconsciously, so when I'm talking about that undercurrent, subconsciously, what's happening is that practitioner doesn't feel safe.
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It's not just like, oh, what will people think of me if I have so much more money?
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No, it's much deeper than that.
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It's actually if people see that I'm making more money, I am more vulnerable to attack.
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The more visible that I become and the bigger my business grows, the more possibility I have to be literally burned at the stake.
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Now, as we stand, thank God we're not at burning state levels right now.
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There's lots of very weird shit going on in the world happening in the states.
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But it's like, oh, it's all starting to become scarily familiar, to be honest.
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But you know, so we can understand why people struggle with the money.
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And then the other thing is, having had lifetimes as a healer, a practitioner, a shaman, whatever it is, we do different things in different lifetimes, right?
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Manipulators and movers of energy.
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Um, that per usually that person in the village was taken care of by the village.
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So that was their job.
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Everybody had their little role and their little job, and nobody particularly made much more than anyone else, but the heel of the shaman was taken care of by the village, and some people are still rolling like that.
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I've got a gas bill, my gas don't know about your gas bills, but my gas bill has gone up astronomically.
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You know, I also have a child to pay for, I have a car, I have da-da-da-da-da like all those things need paying for.
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Like, the village isn't paying for me anymore, and sometimes we have to catch up our energy system with that.
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We have to catch up our old ancient belief system.
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Be like, hello, we're in 2026 now, like no one's paying you anymore just to sit at home and be in be in the village.
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And this thing about it not being fair, like if I have more than others, I think because a lot of the religions are focused on this Puritan ethic, so we can we come from a t more tantric background where we've been able to move through a lot of that stuff and and and shift some of this.
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But most religion, even if you're not a religious person, we still live under a religious ideology in our countries.
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Completely.
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And that's where we were taught the less that you have, the closer you are to God.
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So again, and that's for everyday people.
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So again, as a healer, as a practitioner, as someone who's a devotee of any kind, that message is centuries old.
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It's like you should have nothing to be close to God.
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You should have nothing to be close to God.
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Which it's a lot of the religions, it's the same.
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Yeah.
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And it's and it's a it's a big fat lie because even a mango tree is abundant.
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Yeah.
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And that's the funny thing.
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I remember sitting in um in my vision quest after my sister had passed away.
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I was like, okay, I've just got to do this.
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And sitting there, no water, because I'd, you know, dropped my water bottles.
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I kept going down to the river and get some water, no food, nothing in the in the middle of the Pyrenees somewhere.
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Um all of a sudden you just look at nature and everything is growing through each other, and nothing is too afraid to be visible or to ask for sunlight or oxygen or whatever.
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And you just laugh at the absurdity of what keeps us back.
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But I remember when I first started this podcast, it got to like top two and a half percent really quickly, and I was like, Woo! Okay, this is I wanted to be visible, but this is like, yo, I mean I'm this is this is a bit much now.
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And that's where it's just funny, right?
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Where you swing from one side to the other, and your body just sometimes needs to catch up.
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And this is where I say, like, unclenched those butt cheeks, because that is actually where you hold a hell of a lot of attention.
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True, true story.
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Number one takeaway of the day, just like stop being a tight ass and relax a little bit.
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It's just so funny how we are indoctrinated, how we have taken on these beliefs, these patterns.
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Yeah, I think like for for me, like that's that's my jam, isn't it?
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Like that's that's what I do.
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You know, sat like I don't know how many clients I've ever had, you know, have been doing it a long time in different capacities.
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And there's always something deeper at play.
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Like, usually what we think is the problem isn't the problem.
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We think the problem's money, it's not money, it's something else that's gone on, you know, money's never really the problem.
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Um, but I think what a lot of us don't realise is the extent to which we're programmed, and something that you know I have a kind of strong philosophy about, especially at this point in history, where we are right now, if we don't take control of our own programming, if we don't take control of programming ourselves, it will be done for you.
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There is a huge drive to program the minds of people, to program the minds and hearts.
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You know, there's lots of conversations about, you know, psyops and bots, and you know, um, not just around vote for this politics, vote for this person, vote for the other person, but even you know, swaying social morality, swaying social norms.
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There's uh an extraordinary amount that's happening on lots of different levels.
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And for me, if we don't learn to code ourselves, we're complete, we're open to it being done to us and for us.
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So for me, it's like it's really imperative that we start to do some of this work and unpick like what's actually been inherited and start to start to question is this is this even true?
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Is this what I want?
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Can this be changed?
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Completely.
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And I I you hit the nail right on the dot, right?
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And where there's we look at what's happening, the manosphere and the epistemiles and all these.
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I mean, if we just look at the woman against men, you know, or or sexual assault, what has been normalized?
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And now all of a sudden it's like, oh my God, but if you even look back at like, I'm 58, so when I was in my 20s, the language that was used towards women was very different than today.
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The language that we're using today is different from say 10 years ago, and it just keeps evolving, but at the same people, at the same time, people are getting programmed with more of social media, with with you know with everything that we are taking in.
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And that's why I think you'll probably agree that both of us will say it's like, hey, put your phone, put your screens away for a certain amount of time so that you know you can actually get the downloads.
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Yeah.
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I think we've got to tune in again.
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We need to spend a bit more time tuning in.
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And I think, you know, even for me, like I live and breathe this, but the m what I know about me is the more stressed I am and the more pressure I have, and of course we're living in a in a in a soup at the moment, which is increasing stress and pressure, like the harder it is for me to hear.
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And that's someone who is a psychic channel and like does that for a living.
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So I can't imagine how challenging it can be for people who are not yet proficient in that.
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But we we got to make that time basically, is that having that time, having that time out, having downtime, having some just some quiet time.
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Like for me, one of the most simple things works the best, going for a walk.
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For a walk, cooking, uh, taking a bath, putting the phone away because it's so easy.
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Like, yeah, the last thing you stroke at night might not be the person next to you, but it's actually your screen.
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Like, night night, love you, see you tomorrow.
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I know.
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Crazy.
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And that's what I really see that we're in an epidemic of loneliness, of people turning towards their scream but away from each other.
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:14.920
Jay, tell us where can everyone find you?
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Everything will be in the show notes, of course.
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But just let us know.
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So probably I am still, you know, for my sins, quite Facebook oriented.
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So it's Lady J Diamond on Facebook.
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Um, the only Jay Diamond on Instagram.
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These are the best places to find me.
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I'm trying with LinkedIn, but we're not there yet.
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Love it.
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Those are perfect places to find you.
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I love it.
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The only and the lady J Diamond.
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So either of those handles, you'll find her.
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Thank you so much for coming on.
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Thank you.
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Lovely to chat.
