Brian Medwin Trenchard-Smith

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Hello everyone, and good evening and welcome to the Right
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Host Nicole Glosier, the Positivity Princess.
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I hope everyone's doing absolutely fine and enjoying enjoying.
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What's the letter enjoy at the moment?
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You enjoy enjoy us?
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Well, I suppose you could enjoy going to the LA
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front room and the LA kitchen and the bedroom and
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you know, well, either way make it sounder posh, Yeah,
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well either way, but yeah, a.
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Little good down in the front room and it's it's
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what you make.
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Yeah, there you go. So you know, this is uh
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been a long time coming. We've got a really cool
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guest on our show. Do we Yes, we do, we
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do Wow, Yes, And just let you know before we
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do do this show, hopefully the dog's going to behave
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I'm sure she will.
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She's snoring at the moment, but you know.
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She was all right last time.
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I don't know these puppy these puppy zoom is just
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happening at random times. Last night I was up at
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half free.
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Hey, Maureen, I'm so glad for you, Maurice, so glad
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you joined the chat and so glad you've joined the
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right buzz radio. That sounds so cool tonight. God, it
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must be at the base and I sound like a professional. No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We all know. It's like coffee Richard, don't you.
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Yeah, well, oh yeah, that's the Bob Marley Organic Buffalo,
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thank you. Yeah, and the caffeteria. But I've got some
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new coffee coming which is still a Bob Marley. It's
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called Lively Organic. And we've got a bigger cafeteria.
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Yeah we did.
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Yeah, but anyway, I don't. We don't want to keep
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everyone waiting, do we.
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Well, I've got a really big.
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Massive is the base good? Is it too much?
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No, it's all good. I've got I've got a big,
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massive introduction today because our guess is a big, massive,
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iconic director, producer, writer, author. You know, he's been around
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for a while. And yeah, I've done quite a lot.
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Yeah, I mean, Mauren's laughing. The base. Yeah, beef myself
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up and made myself sound like a man. Yeah right, anyway,
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no on all on state. Let's just get down and green.
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Really really really yeah you sure that?
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Are you ready? You tell everyone who we've got on
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the show tonight. It's over to you, Nicole, It's.
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Always over to me.
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There you go.
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Tonight we have Brian Trenchard Smith and Anglo Australian film
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television director, producer and writer and repetition for large scale
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movies on small scale budgets.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Brown was born in England, where his Australian father
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was in the RAF. Brian attended UK Wellington College, where
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he neglected he started because he favored acting and making
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short films instead. Don't blame him, to be honest, I
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probably would have delain if had that option. He is
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married to Byzantine historian Dr Margaret Sorry about that, Transchard Smith,
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That's all good. Brian has not long launched his autobiography,
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Adventures in the B Movie Trade, published on Amazon and Kindle.
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So yeah, get over there and purchase that because it's
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all about his life and his careers and everything. Brian
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his early work featured in Not Quite Hollywood, an award
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winning documentary Raised in Mongolia August two thousand and nine.
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His early success was brought by the Man from Hong
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Kong and also with Stage of Fire based Gloria, Dead
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End Drive In and also BMX and It's starring one
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and only Nicole Kidman. She's just fifteen in this video
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as well in this movie and this also won the
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prick I can't even say this pricks Chute. I can't
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say that word.
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You can stop keep pointing that tree at me.
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You don't want it? Why would you interrupt me like that?
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Chu Wati in Europe and Best Saturday main Tee Movie. Yeah,
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so anyone want to Wayne was just why would you
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interrupt me? That's rude.
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Come on, you've got.
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This question, Mama As the Quest Frog Dreaming starring e
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t Henry Thomas now on Blu Ray, won a prize
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at Montreal's Children's Film Festival. Brand has also directed forty
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three episodes of TV series and diverse as in Silks, Stalkings,
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Time Tracks, Five Mile Creek, The Others, Flipper, Chemistry, and
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also the Showtime documentary drama DC nine to eleven, Time
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of Crisis. And this is one of five movies that
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he made for the network. Cool huh. He's been very
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busy Recently. Release through Image is Drive Hard and Beat
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action comedy, which is starring John Cusack as the bank
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Robbert and Thomas Jane as his recruitment driver. His body
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of work has been honored at the Paris Cinema, Melbourne,
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Wiles Band and Toronto Film Festivals. In twenty sixteen, he
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received a Lifetime Achievement Award from fantas poa International Fantastic
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Film Festival. The National Film Sound Archive and Australian of
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Australia recently hosted a free City representative of his films.
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That's awesome.
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Well yeah, absolutely, yeah wow.
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And he's very good friends and pals with QUARANTINEO ron I.
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He's also producer actor. They're very close.
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That's that's good. Sounds pretty interesting.
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And he's also put down that Brian's his favorite director.
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That's cooling't it?
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That's nice, isn't it? Hello?
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Hello? Hello?
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Is that Brian?
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Yes? It is?
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How are you?
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How are you? And Wayne?
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Wayne? Wayne?
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And Nicole?
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Oh? I beg your pardon? I got it?
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Well, I suppose I can be Jennifer for one night.
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Brian. Remember we spoke about this. Don't mention Jennifer.
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Hang on, who is she?
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Hey? Thank you? It's well, she was fine, but you
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were better. I can't see. I can't see your pictures.
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Should I be seeing a picture of you? Or should
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I just see the right buzz?
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You should see the right buzz. We we only do audio.
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Ah. You prefer to remain anonymous.
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For now, not for long?
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That's fine, that's fine.
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I've just been chopping wood and so I'm I'm just
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another mouthful of black beans and heavily cooked pork.
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Nice.
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I'm ready a sip of wine, and I'm ready for action.
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Okay, let's do this.
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Yeah. Have you read my book?
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And sir, I've ordered it.
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Good. I well, well, when it comes I trust you
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will read it because you will have a few laughs.
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I will definitely read it, sir, I definitely will.
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So.
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So then I mean, did you're from Australia.
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Well, actually I'm from England. I was born in Maidenhead
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in Berkshire, Ye, and then I had a couple of
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years in Libya when my where my father was commanded.
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He commanded an air force base there and then returned
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to the UK to be educated, and during which I
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conceived a great passion for you know, firstly going to
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the movies and then realizing, oh, this is a job
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that adults do. I well, if people pay for this,
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well that's what I'll do, very simple, I'll make movies.
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And somehow fortune smiled upon me, and I've made forty
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one long forms, forty three episodes of television, a few
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short films, one of which won a few prizes, and
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well over one hundred trailers for theatrically released films between
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nineteen sixty eight and nineteen ninety. I think I stopped.
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I did make a few after that for friends, but
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I still stopped. Counting was over one hundred. So you know,
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I've been very lucky to have worked and played in
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the profession that is also my passion. But then I
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went to Australia when I was nineteen turning twenty, because
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you hadn't been offered been her two yet in England,
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and I was an impatient young man, so I decided
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to go to a country that didn't have a film industry,
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but it did have three commercial television networks and one
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government network, and I thought, I get I will get
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in there. My father's Australian my mother's Irish English, and
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so off I went, and within three weeks of arriving
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in Australia, I conned my way into a TV station,
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saying that I could be I could edit film. Well,
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I had edited my eight milimeter films, and I became
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a news cutter, and then it did quite well at
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that interesting job cutting news. I talk about it in
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the book quite a lot, but editing is actually the
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foundation discipline I think of being a director. I mean, obviously,
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you know, without a script, you can't be a director.
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So you either have to write a good script, or
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be able to choose a good script, or fix a
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script that doesn't need too much fixing, or in some cases,
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some of my films need a great deal of fixing.
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So I don't know whether you've seen any of my
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films or even are aware of them, because I do.
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You know, I date from the Stone Age as far
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as young people like yourself must be concerned. But are you.
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Familiar and where you come from?
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Well, you're familiar with the Man from Hong Kong.
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I've not watched it myself, but I've heard about it
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a lot, and also the Mimex one with Nicole Kidman
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in there. I've watched that one before when I was younger.
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Oh, yes, and watch it again keeps you young.
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Yeah, definitely, I'll probably watch it again to retrack on
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it all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and oh yeah, and I
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did color that you've done a few Leprechaun films. I've
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watched them.
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Ah, yes, yes, not exactly Shakespeare, but we do Shakespeare
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a lot in Leprecorn in Space. I decided in Leprecorn
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in Vegas, I thought, but you should only speak in
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rhyme and limericks.
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Yes, no, I like it.
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I like yeah, yes, the leprecn in Vegas is a
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fun film. It's so it is much loved by the
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Leprecorn fans, which are there primarily in the US. Strangely enough,
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it's not, let's say, a hit, but it just seemed
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to hit the funny bone of young American people, I think.
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But Leprecorn in Space we went a bit wackier. Yeah,
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and I just that he should. He has a number
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of Shakespearean speeches, I think, with the third provided a couple. So,
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But anyway, it was all just having fun with the
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genre and sort of mocking it while having fun with
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it at the same time. Yeah, definitely, I've seen those,
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but there are well that's sort of maybe three down.
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We've got to at least thirty eight to go.
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I've got a good listed, don't you worry.
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She's very well equipped.
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You you also had your wife actually star in a
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few of your films.
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Didn't you. Yes, Yes, in Death Cheaters, I should have
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given her a better part. Well, I mean really, I mean,
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you have a boys own action adventure that's really actually
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you know, in which there's no there's a lot of
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gunfire and explosions, but no one gets hurt. But you
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have an action adventure like that, and you have two
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guys going on a mission, and you can tribe a
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part where you know, the girl is the voice of
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reason and says, don't do this. I mean, what a
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stupid thing, What a stupid mistake. The girl should go
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on the mission, you know, isn't that what the audience
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want to see? And she should save their asses because
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you know, actually she's much smarter than they thought. That's
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what I should have done. And that's one of many
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mistakes actually that I talk about in the book that
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could be educational to young filmmakers who are starting out
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in the business. So I didn't want to write a
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book that was just sort of hooray for me, though
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I guess you might detect a little bit of that.
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I wanted to do something that was sort of useful to,
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you know, the next generation of filmmakers who are just
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starting out in what is now a greatly changed business, yeah,
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compared to when I entered it, and you know, much
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harder to get into because it's become so corporatized. And
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you know, they're the gatekeepers, you know, are you make
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it harder and harder to get in, So you and
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that they they make you jump through a lot of hoops.
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You finance your film, you finance your short, finance your
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your first feature, shoot it on your cell phone and
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show it to us and if we like it, well
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maybe we'll we'll give you something to do. But it's
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it's tough. But that's the kind of the law of
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the jungle, and certainly filmmaking order, the recorded entertainment business
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is a jungle, very competitive. So so I hope the
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book has some use for the next generation as well
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as those that look back upon what is an era
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that is basically over. There was I think the beginnings
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of economic rationalization coming about. But then COVID just sort
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of chopped the business off at the knees, and now
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it's reorganizing itself, not just in terms of workplace safety,
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but in terms of economic viability. The days of the
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two hundred and fifty million dollar movie, I would hope
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are over. Uh And because you know now, you know,
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with with Warners putting all their product onto HBO sorry,
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onto yeah, onto HBO Max at the same time as
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their theatrical releases, that's really going to change the income stream.
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But anyway, what do you guys feel about the business currently?
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a quick question actually about you know, because obviously you
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said that you know, COVID is cut it, you know,
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from the knees. I was we was interviewing Rebecca the
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film dot her and she said something over on when
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we interviewed her that people were doing film filming over
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over zoom mm, which was quite interesting. Is that is
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that something you could look at maybe.
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Mm hmm. Not really? I yeah, I mean the quality
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is not good to see. I'm so sorry.
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It's fine.
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Remote part Well, I'm an hour from Portland, Oregon. I'm
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in a remote and you're actually talking to a computer.
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Bloodite is the bloom I'm around, But so such as
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I have to get a landline, Internet and TV all
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through the modem because we're in a remote area. And
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it bumps off Skype well temporarily kills the Internet and
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then it restores.
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He's still on dial up.
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Los Angeles and decided we decided we'd had enough. And
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as my career was mainly shifting into writing that I
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may yet make another film late in the year, who
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knows that there is talk, I thought, well, how about
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a complete change of lifestyle from the concrete Kenyons and
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the stress of big city life with overcrowding and too
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much construction and angry traffic. I thought, well, our son
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said take a look up here, and I dually was
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very impressed by what I could get up here. So
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I'm on two and a half acres and I'm twenty
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minutes drive away from a supermarket at a five screen
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movie house when it will eventually open, hopefully, I'm going
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to get a vaccine probably within three weeks. So wow,
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like start looking up. How is life for you in
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the COVID England of today?
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national lockdown. We haven't seen the town Center for about
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a year now, which is quite weird. Not mean going out.
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We don't club or anything. I mean town Center to
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do shopping and stuff like that. We haven't even been
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down that way. It's just all a little bit weird. Yeah,
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it's just really weird.
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Yeah, we've not wanted to mingle with people. We wanted
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to keep.
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No. Well that's the same. When I'm finished with you,
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I'm going to go to the next door property and
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help my neighbor clear a bit of brush because it's
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good exercise. And then we go off and to a
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place where we sit ten feet apart and drink beer
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and smoke weed. The pleasures of Oregon life. So that's
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my social contact.
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I'll just send you some Bob Marley coffee that I
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got off of someone called Richard Barnett.
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That's quite nice anyway. So I've been very very careful
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because my neighbor has a ninety two year old mother
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in law, so she would get farewell with COVID and
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you know, he's sort of my age, which, as you
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have gathered as considerable. But and the only other person
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I see my son and his girlfriend and we see
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them once every two weeks. We drive an hour and
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a half to them and sit in their house without masks. Yeah,
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and then back.
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I can see that.
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M h. Anyway, this is boring your your your listeners
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to death night. Well I could what what what else
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can I tell you about? You know, the reason that
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people should read Adventures in the B movie trade.
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Okay? And well do you prefer writing or directing or
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producing films?
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I I I was a self taught filmmaker. I never
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went to film school, and I counsel anybody. I mean
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again spending large sums of money to get you know,
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some kind of a you know, a fine arts degree
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when you can pretty much learn all you really need
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to know about film production. Take a three month course
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somewhere at community college or something, lot of research on
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the internet, read books about films, and most of all,
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see films and write down your thoughts about what you
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think about them, and self educate in that way, So
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I don't think three years at an expensive university getting
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a degree in filmmaking is necessarily the way to learn. Obviously,
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the networking that comes from hanging out with similarly minded people.
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I can work well, can breed work, and work reads work.
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So it's it's important to self educate and still find
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a way of networking with others, which means very often
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just helping other people out and eventually they'll help you
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out and you get to make that little show piece
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for yourself, a short that get entered into a film
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festival or something and people think, oh, here's a bright Sparks,
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so see what script. You know what scripts he has
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or she has, so so you know that's so. As
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for writing, producing and directing, I mean I was drawn
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to directing most initially because this sort of Eureka moment
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came to me after at the age of thirteen, after
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going to a screening of Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo, which I
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saw at the Regal Cinema, Odiham in Hampshire. And in
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the days when they had a movie house, well they
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had an Air Force base there, so for when the
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air Force base closed them, so did the movie house.
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But I saw it at thirteen, and it mesmerized me,
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and I didn't understand necessarily all the dark undercurrents that
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were going on, and you know the story of obsession.
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It went a little bit over my post pubescent head.
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But I was sucked into Hitchcock's world and then became
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a great sort of student of his work thereafter. But
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it was at that screening that I realized, hey, this
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is a job. People do this for a living. Well,
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that's what I'll do. And I came home and told
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my parents at age thirteen, I decided what I want
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to do in life. I want to make movies. And
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they didn't laugh in my face or throw me out
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of the house. They said, all right, if that's what
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you want to do, you know, we'll support you any
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way we can. But we have no connections in the
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film business. So it's all about connections, and certainly was
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in England at that time, and also there was the
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film business was a closed shop. You couldn't get a
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job without a union ticket. You couldn't get a union
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ticket without a job. You could get into the system
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either by being related to a union member or by
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joining a laboratory where if you inhaled formic acid for
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two years and did your job. You would get a
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union ticket after two years, and then in a further
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two years you were allowed to change your grade and
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you could perhaps move into the cutting room and become
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the guy that sweeps the cutting room floor. So I
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looked at that prospect at nineteen in England at that time,
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and I was in much more of a hurry, and
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so I went to a country where everyone else was
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in a bit of a hurry too, And so now
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I think things are totally different in the UK. I've
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only made one film in the UK, and that was Britannic,
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my florid melodrama about Titanic's sister ship that he also sang.
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And yeah, it played on ITV four in the afternoon.
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I believe a couple of times. It was intended obviously
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to rip off Titanic, or rather cash in on the
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audience that loved Titanic, and came out, you know, a
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couple of years later, and yeah, it did well all
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over the world on television and on DVD, and you know,
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you might get some amusement out of it. It has
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some British actors that some of whom well well. John
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Rhys Davies obviously was He chewed the scenery with great
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gusto in the film. And the two leads didn't have
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the careers I thought they were going to have, but yeah,
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let me see Daniels what's his name, what's his first name? Anyway,
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he played it and he's had a career since then.
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And Jackie Bissitt Jacqueline Bissitt, I was a British actress
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that we had her as Lady Lewis and she does
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Lady Lewis's very well and it was great fun to
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shoot for twenty four days in England in London and
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Bray Studios, the home of Hammer. I used to make
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trailers for Hammer a brief period in two years after
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my TV promos in Australia, I moved from a film
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news film editing to TV promos and those promos have
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got some attention and they were shown to an American
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company who said, oh, would you like to be a
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writer producer of trailers at our British branch And I thought, wonderful.
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I can go back to England and revisit my parents
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and see what develops from that. That's kind of in
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the Snakes of ladders game of a career in the
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film business. That's a nice upward lateral move from let's
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say editing and promo making. Now this is promo making
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on them. What was at that point the most sort
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of senior importance level, because trailers were the only way
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that the customer could get a peek at what he
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might be buying ahead of time. Sure, there'd be a
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few tv ads, but nothing like the blitz of tv
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ads that had become customary and extremely expensive as far
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as the release was concerned. But back in sixty eight
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to seventy, trailers were important. And I made you know,
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when we see the Vampire Lovers was one of the
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trailers I made with Ingrid pit As, this carnivorous lesbian
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vampire and my favorite kind. And she knew she was marvelous.
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She's just she died last year or something.
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Great, lady, eat on the trailer for Vampire Lovers.
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You say, the Vampire Lovers horror of Frankenstein. Frankenstein must
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be destroyed. Good luck with that. And the you know
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I made Moon zero two was another there was that
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was a non horror hammer that I made the trailer
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for anyway, so it was good. One of my quite
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good trailers is still to be found on YouTube, and
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many of them can be found on YouTube is Once
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Upon a Time in the West, which was Sergio Leone's
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fourth Western and I got to make a trailer for that,
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which was nice, and you can find it on YouTube.
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Because of my trailer background, I am a what they could.
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I am a contributor to the website, which you absolutely
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must visit because trailers from hell, Trailers from Hell? Do
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you know it?
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Yeah, I've been looking at it on YouTube today. Actually,
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it looks really good and I've seen it. You've done
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the ones in Life of Brian and Bambie. You've been
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on there for doing quite a lot.
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Actually I've done over ninety of them. Yeah, but Bambie
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starred one of my dear so yeah, because I was
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you know, after I chopped wood, I went and we
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just had a snowfall a couple of days ago and
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are looking a bit hungry. So Bless chopped some apples
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for them. And they come up to me and they
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look at me with big brown cleaning eyes and and
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I make I make clicking noises because if they is
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they associate, you know, I can make those noises in
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an empty garden, and I stand around with bit and
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if there's one near, she'll come because that means food. Yeah,
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so I got that's clever than all that. Yeah, so
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that they So that's sort of minor sort of communication
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between man and beast, which I think is wonderful. Look,
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I don't want to sort of hug them and you know,
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get you know, flopping and sentimental, and it's not a
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good idea to hug deals. You can get lime disease.
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But they do come between you know, you know three
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you know, three feet two feet from me and the
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one yearling that I've been sort of feeding since she
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was a form and now she's a yearling and mom
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is not interested. Mom's already eating for two because she's
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up the duff as they quickly get up.
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Yeah, I saw they she had twins, didn't she no longer?
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Guy? Yeah, but you know, from October onwards, it's rutting season,
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and you know, by now the great deal of rutting
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has taken place, and the you know, and these girls
485
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.519
are now eating for two and so the yearling have
486
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.480
to look after themselves and learn how to forage in
487
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.519
the forest. And so I suppose I interfere with the
488
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:47.559
balance of nature slightly by feeding. About six six are
489
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:54.199
my regulars and nearly all dose. I you know, did
490
00:34:54.320 --> 00:35:00.079
have a buck that I saved, had this a a
491
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.480
broken bone in one of the back legs, that heat,
492
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.320
and I kept feeding, and he came to us at
493
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.639
Christmas and he was lame, so we called him tiny
494
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:17.320
tim uh, and so I would would feed him and
495
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:22.960
he you know, he certainly lasted about three years. You
496
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.519
don't see many bucks because people want to shoot them
497
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.480
for their their horns, so I you know, I know
498
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.679
he became a four pointer. I don't know whether he
499
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.320
lasted them much longer than that, because I haven't seen
500
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:38.800
him for about two years, so he could well have.
501
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.280
He could have fallen prey in the legitimate hunting season
502
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:47.840
that exists up here, and they have seasonal periods where
503
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:53.679
you can shoot bucks or doze. It's carefully well, it's
504
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:55.000
meant to be carefully regulated.
505
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:00.559
But yeah, anyway, fair enough, Yeah, that's understandable. I didn't
506
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:03.039
want to really talk about a few films, if that's
507
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.840
if that's okay, the ones that hang on a minute.
508
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.559
I want to know what it was like working with
509
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.159
Hollywood Glenford and Chuck Connors.
510
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:15.400
Oh well, you really have to read the book.
511
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.639
Okay.
512
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:25.320
Well Glenn Ford squeezed my balls, did he? Now, yes,
513
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.639
it's an interesting story. He was not gay. He brought
514
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:36.119
his third of four wives to the film. And I
515
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.199
think it was just a gesture to say, you know,
516
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.719
for during this shoot, I had you by the shortened curlyes.
517
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:49.360
But it came about when he really did not want
518
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:53.159
to be in a shot in which a gun was fired.
519
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.239
In if I had he was meant to be shot
520
00:36:56.320 --> 00:37:00.119
by his treacherous assistant in this really terrible film that
521
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:07.960
you should never see. And and I wanted to have
522
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:12.000
a profile shot where you know, the on one side
523
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:15.239
of the shot of the frame, you know, the guy
524
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:20.559
fires and then yeah, he staggers back. But he he said,
525
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.320
please shoot it separately. Get the shot of him firing,
526
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:26.480
and then I'll clutch my chest and another shot and
527
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.840
fall to the ground. And I said, well, we'll squib
528
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.119
you up and have lots of blood bags. Oh no, no,
529
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.440
I brought you know, this is my costume. I brought
530
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:38.880
my own clothes. It can't ruin my clothes. Okay, all right, Well,
531
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.760
clutching the chest and falling out of frame thing. Oh okay.
532
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:48.559
But I was in no position to really try and
533
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:52.079
make that, you know, to try and win that argument,
534
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.719
because we really had to have shot the scene by lunch,
535
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.400
and the trucks had to leave at lunch. So you
536
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.239
win a few, you lose a few. So I capitulated
537
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.320
and did it with good grace. And he came up
538
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.239
to me and put his arm around my shoulder and said,
539
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:11.599
thank you boy, dear boy. I think thank you, dear boy,
540
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:17.079
because I was younger then. And with his other hand,
541
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.679
he just just reached down and gently cupped my balls
542
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:28.199
and gave me polite scoops and oh oh, and in
543
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:32.880
front of the crew in the cast, and I thought, interesting, yes,
544
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:37.639
that's but so he was, with all due respect, a
545
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.679
pain in the ass and an old Hollywood star who
546
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:48.079
had become very spoiled. And it can happen. Many of
547
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.679
the stars I've worked with have not been spoiled. I
548
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:57.199
worked with Anne Margaret, wonderful lady from Great Musicals of
549
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:03.840
the sixties, and she was Elvis's girlfriend for a brief period.
550
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.119
She told me he was a great kisser. You always
551
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.639
want to know that, didn't you. What did Elvis have well.
552
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.639
He certainly was a great kisser, That's all she would
553
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:20.480
tell me. But Chuck Connors, on the other hand, was
554
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.760
a wild and crazy guy. He was the rifle man.
555
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.960
And whether you ever, if you're a fan of Chuck,
556
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.920
I would assume you must have seen that old western
557
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.760
series he did. I mean he he played Geronimo as
558
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:44.679
a as a blue eyed apache. But I said, film
559
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:49.079
is well known for and not a great film. And
560
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.639
he did a lot of interesting westerns. But that was
561
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.559
a western series that ran for nearly six years and
562
00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:00.800
did well. He was originally a baseball player. But Chuck
563
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:08.360
was was great and he liked me, and generally with
564
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:14.920
star actors, if you're a nobody director, this is an
565
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:22.440
American Spanish Mexican co production. And when we went back
566
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:26.760
to La and he said, stay in touch with me
567
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:28.360
a call. So I did give him a call and
568
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:34.280
he said, hey, what about lunch and so, and we
569
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.519
hung out a couple of times, and he lived a
570
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.440
little distance away, and he picked me up in his
571
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:45.840
Mercedes and there was a medallion of Pope hanging from
572
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.639
the rear view mirror and a three fifty seven magnum
573
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:55.639
in a Western holster mounted on the drive shaft, and
574
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:59.760
I guess, once a life rifleman, always a rifleman. So
575
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:03.920
that was Chuck Conor's a great guy, and I had
576
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:09.119
lots of interesting stories to tell about, you know, Hollywood
577
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:13.960
of the fifties and onwards. So I mean it was
578
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:21.559
an interesting experience. Glenn Ford and Chuck Connors and Henry Silba,
579
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:27.960
who made a lot of bad Satin's uh, Joe Rivero
580
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:32.119
who is the Mexican Robert Redford of the Andres Garcia
581
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.920
who was probably the Mexican Steve McQueen. So anyway, it
582
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:42.119
was one of those co productions where the stars were
583
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:46.280
were certainly interesting to work with. Yeah.
584
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:51.880
Absolutely, So let's talk about the Man from Hong Kong.
585
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:53.599
That's what kicked everything off really.
586
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:00.679
Yeah, well it's you know, I wanted to make a
587
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:07.039
NonStop action picture that was in some way satirical of
588
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:15.559
the concept of the crypto fascist, invincible superhero who kills
589
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:18.880
large numbers of people and causes a great deal of
590
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:23.719
property damage in the cause of justice, because well that's okay,
591
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.119
you know, justice, it justifies everything, So you know, the
592
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:33.840
James Bond, the Charles Bronson, that kind of you know,
593
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:39.119
you know, kick down doors and ask questions later kind
594
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:46.400
of hero was you know, certainly it's something that inspired me.
595
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:52.360
So I thought, what if we reverse the the stereotype
596
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:56.119
where you know, the white tough guy goes to Asia
597
00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:01.280
beds a number of Asian beauties, you know, punches out
598
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:06.559
scores of Asian martial artists who, if you ever see
599
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.119
some of those films, are obviously infinitely more athletic and
600
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.159
flexible than the important American star who can scarcely get
601
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.679
his leg above his hip. And so what if we
602
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.920
reverse that stereotype and we sent a Chinese dirty Harry
603
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:28.280
to sit in Australia on a routine extradition, and he decides,
604
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.159
you know, I think I'll go after mister Big, your
605
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:35.079
local mister Big. He's the man I'm really after. I mean,
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00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.920
this drug dealer I'm picking up. I know it works
607
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.719
for him. When the drug dealer is assassinated on the
608
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:47.079
way to the federal courthouse process the extradition, our hero
609
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.079
goes after him. I goes after the assassin, kills him,
610
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:55.159
goes after a bunch of other assassins, kills them. Eventually
611
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:57.639
works his way up to mister Big and they have
612
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:06.159
a final confrontation in the penthouse, which ends with our
613
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:10.320
heroes stuffing a grenade into the villain's mouth, throwing him
614
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.599
into a safe full of explosives, and then ab sailing
615
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.440
by rope from the eighteenth floor to the ground, looks
616
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:25.199
up and the penthouse explodes. I thought that would be fun.
617
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:27.800
I think there's an audience for that, and we'll have
618
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:31.400
a big car chase and we'll have Yeah. My formula
619
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:35.440
was one action scene, one dialogue scene, one action scene,
620
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.440
one dialogue scene, probably just as well as I wrote
621
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:44.480
the dialogue. But there is you know, a nine minute
622
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:48.199
chase and fight sequence. There's an eight minute car chase
623
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:54.079
and so forth. So give the fans what they want
624
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.000
and try and give it with a bit of humor,
625
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:02.519
satirical humor. That show is the Poke's fun at the genre,
626
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:07.719
also at the at the level of I have two
627
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:14.239
Australian cops who are evocative of Australian TV cops. I
628
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.320
mean every country has its own cop shires. Australia had
629
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:25.679
its version Tired Division four, Mattlock Police, UH and so forth,
630
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:32.880
and so they're all made by a company called Crawford Productions.
631
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.760
So there was a term in those days, a Crawford
632
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:43.000
esque cop on television, And so I wrote parts for
633
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:48.800
two Crawford s cops who were racists, so that they're
634
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.599
talking to him and regarding him with all the stereotype,
635
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:58.360
the typical stereotypes that such people do with regarding Asians.
636
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:03.280
And so I had amount of fun at the expense
637
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:08.960
of Australian racism, and it just it makes it a
638
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:13.760
really interesting piece. Now you see, my god, we have
639
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:18.559
a character who supposedly sort of sympathetic saying you talk
640
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:26.480
about the bloody Yellow peril anyway. So so that that
641
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:33.000
was made for basically half a million dollars and twenty
642
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:36.760
Century Fox bought it for the US. It was shown
643
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:40.840
in rank theaters in the UK. I came to England
644
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.079
for the publicity and did a lot of radio and
645
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:51.960
a few television talk show pieces, and you know, tended
646
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.760
to monopolize the airwaves as much as I'm doing right
647
00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:00.840
now and talk the film up. And then there was
648
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.920
a press show at the London Pavilion, favorite theater of mine.
649
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:09.000
It's where I saw Pirates of Blood River double billed
650
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:14.039
with Mysterious Island Wow Hammer and Ray Harry Howsen. What
651
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:19.119
a three hours of just perfect, great fun for a
652
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.280
sixteen year old when I saw it. Anyway, it was
653
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.599
great to see my film at the London Pavilion. And
654
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:27.920
whenever I go back to England, I do go to
655
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.239
the London Pavilion. I haven't been back for years, but
656
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:33.559
I go there. I will see a film when I'm
657
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.599
in town, just because I have a nostalgic affection for
658
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:41.400
the London Pavilion. And so we had a press show
659
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:45.360
and I did the thing the directors never should do
660
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:48.840
at a press show. I addressed the press before the
661
00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:53.440
screening very briefly, just to express my how much fun
662
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:56.119
we had with making this film and to kind of
663
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.960
alert them that it was meant to be funny, because
664
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.079
they could well thought, why are we seeing this? It's
665
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.719
just another chop socky film. There's so many of them. Why,
666
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.679
why why should we see this? I wanted to warm
667
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:10.760
them up and put them at least get them ready
668
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:15.679
for the humor. Yeah, And sure enough they started to
669
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.599
get the up, you know, they started to get the humor. Certainly,
670
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:23.079
it took about ten minutes, but they did. And this
671
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.159
took a couple of kicks to the balls. I think
672
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:31.199
that they started to laugh and so and strangely enough
673
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:37.760
I got really good reviews. The popular press, used the world,
674
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:43.760
you know, the Daily Telegraph, A lot of quite well
675
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.679
known critics sort of gave me a you know, they
676
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:52.039
they they responded to my naive enthusiasm. Let's say, uh
677
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.159
so that was you know, that was the man from
678
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.119
Hong Kongong and it sort of it got me going,
679
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:05.599
uh And until you know, twenty fourteen, I never stopped working,
680
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:09.199
either in film or television. But you reach a age
681
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:13.719
and you hit the sort of glass ceiling of agism.
682
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:20.239
So you know, there are many young, really accomplished directors
683
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:26.719
coming up with awards, good credits. You know. The safe
684
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:30.400
bed is to choose one of those rather than a geezer. However,
685
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:35.199
I still have producers who think I'm good, and I'm
686
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:41.800
attached to, Yeah, well, an interesting little earthquake movie amongst others.
687
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:48.920
We'll see if something you know, that's something will coalesce,
688
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:49.719
we will see.
689
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.960
Yeah, Because I was going to say, as well, you
690
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.920
had the James Bond out to George Lesenbie. What was
691
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:57.960
he like to work with?
692
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.360
He was great, he had he realized he'd made a
693
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:09.880
terrible mistake, not on to more Bond movies, and he
694
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.480
had been humbled by that. He just wanted to do
695
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:14.719
a good job. He just wanted to be the best
696
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:18.480
he could be. And unlike a number of Western actors
697
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:23.360
going into Asian movies, he trained hard and he could
698
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:26.559
you know, he could get his leg above his hip.
699
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:32.599
You know, he could swing a good a good taekwondo,
700
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:36.840
you know, sweet to the to the to the face
701
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:41.360
of the opponent quite well. Uh. And so you know
702
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:45.199
we got on well they are the only problem was
703
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:48.039
when I set him on fire, he did get a
704
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:54.840
slight burn on his left wrist where the fire a
705
00:50:54.960 --> 00:51:00.679
tartan gel had worn off. I had been rubbed off
706
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:04.320
when he was getting the jacket that was burning off,
707
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:09.519
and of course I had persuaded him to do his
708
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:12.960
own fire stunt. He gets kicked into a fire, bounces
709
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.440
back out again, continues fighting with his back of his
710
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.880
jacket on fire. And I thought, no one's ever seen.
711
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:25.760
We pioneered this fire retardant jelly in Australia called water gel,
712
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:32.800
and I had done and a couple of fire stunts
713
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.840
testing it out. I've even set my naked arm on
714
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:39.920
fire and you can see that in one of my
715
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.519
early films, and so I said, George, this is going
716
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.800
to be perfectly safe. Let me show you, and got
717
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.800
myself into the gel soaked underwear and then a layer
718
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.760
to keep the gel away from the costuming, and then
719
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:56.480
the costuming on top of that, and then I was
720
00:51:56.559 --> 00:52:01.519
fueled and torched, not a very big one, and said, yeah,
721
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:04.039
you see, you know you will fine, keep moving forward.
722
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.880
If you're in trouble, just hit the ground. We put
723
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:11.159
the water gel blanket over you straight away and it
724
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.639
all worked fine. But he had trouble getting the jacket off.
725
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:21.760
So the jacket, because you anyway, it rubbed a bit
726
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.840
of the gel off, this sort of two inch area
727
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:27.079
on his wrist and he got to burn on that,
728
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:31.679
and so, you know, I felt very bad. I'd said,
729
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:34.440
I promised someone that he'd be safe, and he he
730
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:36.760
and he got to burn. Not not one that you
731
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:40.079
could see today, uh, not one that yeah, gave him
732
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:44.639
much pain for more that day, but it was. It's
733
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:49.519
another of the mistakes that a filmmaker can make when
734
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:54.480
you're just pushing too hard for you know, a result.
735
00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.719
We were trying to break new ground film and if
736
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:02.119
you look at it and think of it in the
737
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:04.840
context of something that was shot in nineteen seventy four.
738
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:12.719
It is a fairly incredible piece of work. But you know, so, yeah,
739
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:16.719
but George forgave me, and you know, when he invited
740
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:23.119
me on his yacht three years later, we sailed from
741
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:28.320
Long Beach, California to Catalina Island. He did not throw
742
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:32.039
me to the sharks, so I guess, so, I guess
743
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:36.760
he forgave me. But no, George is great and I
744
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:42.119
occasionally speak with him and he's coming up eighty now wow,
745
00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:46.280
and still fighting for you know, the kind of guy
746
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:51.719
that George's. He gave one of his kidneys to his sister.
747
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:52.559
Oh bless him.
748
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:58.480
Yeah, that's the kind of guy George's. Yeah, so they
749
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:04.559
says it all up anyway. Yeah, yeah, but.
750
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.239
I was going to say, like you directed my Eve
751
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.519
Fieldman's show. I was wondering what it was like, considering
752
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:18.400
you as one of the best comedians in that time. Yeah.
753
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:22.199
Yeah, I'd made the trailer for Marty's film when I'd
754
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:26.360
been back in England. Every home should have one, indeed,
755
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:31.800
every home should have a Marty. Yeah, and he came
756
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.760
out to Australia when after I had gone back to
757
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:41.440
Australia to be not just do promos, but start making
758
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:44.960
programs for the same network that had hired me. That
759
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:47.440
was my deal. If you want me back, you had
760
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:52.320
to give me that lateral move from promotion and publicity
761
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:58.159
to actual production. And yeah, another ladder in the game
762
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:06.039
of snakes and ladders. And so Marty was doing a
763
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:13.400
live show touring force cities in Australia and the TV
764
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:17.320
network I worked for and made a deal with him
765
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:21.159
to do a half hour television special where he could
766
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:25.360
recycle any of his old sketches and I got to
767
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:33.000
direct it. I was really rather pleased about that, and
768
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:35.519
Marty and I got on very well, and he felt
769
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:43.320
comfortable with me, you know, like a fellow brit and
770
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:45.480
we you know. And I told him I'd made the
771
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:48.960
trailer for his his theatrical film in the UK, and
772
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:51.920
he was he felt more even more comfortable, I think
773
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:56.000
once he knew that, and we based the whole thing
774
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:59.920
was going to be based upon animals or relationships animals.
775
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.320
So he did the Doctor Doolittle song Let's Talk to
776
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:09.639
the Animals all over toront Parker Zoom in Sydney, and
777
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:13.320
I just filmed little bits of it and to play back,
778
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:17.840
and he got all the way through the song, and
779
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:24.000
then we at one point we got to the rhinos enclosure, uh,
780
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:29.840
and the keeper got the rhino right up to the gate,
781
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.000
so that Marty was not a tall man, but it
782
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:39.079
was a barred gate. He could look through the bars
783
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:44.000
and he could have a, let's say, an apparent chat
784
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:47.360
with the rhino. But Marty was wearing his sort of
785
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.239
classic cloth cap at the time, and he thought it
786
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:53.760
would be kind of nice to put the cloth cap
787
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:58.239
on the horn of the rhino, which was very funny.
788
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.840
But then the rhino decided to walk away with it,
789
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:05.960
and Marty wanted his cloth cap back, and so he
790
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.000
started to climb the gate to get over to get
791
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:14.920
into the rhino enclosure to get the cloth cap back. Now, luckily,
792
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.440
the keeper got very upset at this point and Marty
793
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:22.519
was restrained. I quite remember. It's all a bit of
794
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.960
a blur at that point. I don't know whether he
795
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:28.000
got it, had he got his leg over at the
796
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:30.960
top bar and was about to jump down, or anyway,
797
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:34.760
a big kerfuff. The keeper went and went to the
798
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.639
politely asked for the cap back, and got the cap
799
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:45.880
and gave Marty back his cap, but otherwise it's all
800
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:53.320
passed without incident. We shot in a restaurant where he
801
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:58.800
was a vegan who wanted to you know, uh, well,
802
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:07.039
he outraged various other customers by yeah it was a
803
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:13.920
vegan restaurant, and he talked about the have you ever heard, yeah,
804
00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:18.079
the death of a stick of celery, you know, the
805
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.480
shriek of the carrot is plucked out of the ground
806
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:25.199
by the roots. And anyway, he put everybody off their
807
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:29.280
food in that particular sketch, which is I think something
808
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:32.920
he'd done on British television before, and so it was
809
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:36.920
fun and yet he was great. I wish he had
810
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:42.639
longer and made us laugh longer. Yeah, because he had
811
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:43.079
a talent.
812
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:45.840
I definitely did, definitely.
813
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:49.559
So I want to talk about stunt rock because I
814
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.159
know that you was in the shower when the idea
815
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.440
came to you back in December nineteen seventy seven.
816
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:59.239
Yes, that's right. Yeah, I got out of a shower
817
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.840
off and wrote six pages, sent it to someone who'd
818
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:08.400
foolishly said if you ever have any bright ideas and
819
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:13.599
love and behold that person was I could persuade his
820
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:17.840
company to put money into a film, and he wanted
821
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:23.840
to winter in Beverly Hills, California, rather than winter in Amsterdam.
822
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:29.320
And I flew to Amsterdam just before Christmas. It was
823
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:32.480
freezing and I can see why that he would love
824
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:34.159
to make the film. I was going to make it
825
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:35.639
in Australia, but he said I want to make it
826
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:41.960
in California. Better still, and that was that was my Yeah, yeah,
827
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:47.440
that was a good way to me. I hope that
828
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:56.480
is not going to knock us such another incoming phone call. Yes,
829
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:58.599
I'm just going to ignore it and hope it goes
830
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.800
away and doesn't knock us. How much longer have you
831
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:02.480
got by.
832
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:04.519
The way, as well? We have an hour?
833
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:08.159
Oh we've got on for how long?
834
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:10.000
An hour and seven?
835
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:17.639
Okay, well, at about in another ten minutes, I'm probably
836
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:18.719
going to have to go.
837
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:23.199
That's fine, but that's fine, absolutely, yeah.
838
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:26.800
But but I'm delighted you're holding me over the hour.
839
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:28.840
I guess you want to trim it.
840
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:31.239
No, no, we keep it.
841
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:32.079
Oh, we keep it.
842
01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:37.360
Yeah, absolutely, Okay, But normally these shows are just an
843
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.079
hour each, aren't they usually?
844
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:41.199
Yeah, but they do sometimes go over if it if
845
01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:44.559
it has to, Yeah, we don't mind. It's fine.
846
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.599
Well, that's awfully good of you. Thank you very much,
847
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:53.719
You're welcome. Yeah, well so stunt rock. Yeah, well, I
848
01:00:54.039 --> 01:01:00.239
managed the career of Australia's premiere stuntman, Grant Page. I
849
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:04.760
had hired for my first independent film, The Stuntmen, which
850
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:09.400
was actually a fifteen minute TV special which I made
851
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:12.119
independently and sold it to the network I used to
852
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:15.239
work for. I left the network to make the film
853
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:19.920
and pre sold it for its budget to that network.
854
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:23.519
And I could have gotten more if I had if
855
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:29.280
I had waited and let it perform on its own merits,
856
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:32.639
which indeed it had and it won Best Documentary at
857
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:38.679
the Sydney Film Festival. But I said, okay, let's be safe.
858
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:44.360
This is I'm going independent. Let's pre sell and I
859
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:47.440
know that I'm going to get the budget back and
860
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:51.760
hopefully I'll make some money out of foreign sales. And
861
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:56.559
so I'd hired Grant Page to do rope slides and
862
01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:02.840
he was very good and very charismatic, very articulate. So
863
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:05.119
I thought, I think you have a future. I think
864
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:12.760
you could be a stunt man who was also an actor,
865
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:15.400
an actor who can do his own stunts. I think
866
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:20.159
you could be co lead or the hero's best buddy
867
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:23.920
who gets him out of trouble because of his physical expertise.
868
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:26.960
And the thing is, the audience would see that it's
869
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:30.679
actually the actor doing the stunt. He's not just being
870
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:35.440
double at a distance. And sometimes you can clearly see
871
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:42.119
him that the level is not the same build or
872
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:47.639
complexion or hair color or whatever of the actor that
873
01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:54.320
who he represents for the dangerous bit. So if you
874
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.239
can actually see the actor doing it, just as in
875
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:02.519
the days of Errol Flynn, remember Old Flynn's you know, yeah,
876
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:09.840
sliding down the sale of the pirate ship with you know,
877
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.320
with a knife through the sale and he rides down.
878
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:16.280
Of course they had him wired in another way, but
879
01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:22.000
it but he Errol Flynn appeared to do his own
880
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:25.039
stunts these days or eaten me in the last twenty years,
881
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:30.280
let's say Tom Cruise has done his own stunts. With
882
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:33.440
the new technology, of course, you can get face replacement
883
01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:38.599
and so stunt men and women can you can do
884
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:41.039
the job and then you put the actor's face on
885
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:43.320
and it really looks like he's doing it. But back
886
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:46.840
in the day, no, you had to get a really
887
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:50.280
good double. You had to shoot them in a way
888
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.199
that didn't reveal their face.
889
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:55.320
Changed my face.
890
01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:04.679
Well, you can you face replacement now stology. But so
891
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:09.440
I put Grant under a five year contract of management
892
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:12.199
and said, I will get your name above the title
893
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.679
of a film in five years. And I managed to
894
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:24.519
get his name above the title in about eighteen months.
895
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:30.519
But I thought he was extraordinarily talented, and so the
896
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:33.760
next step was to have him host or b the
897
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:37.639
be the lead stunt man of a four part series
898
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:42.000
I did called Danger Freaks, which can be found on
899
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:46.960
DVD Umbrella Entertainment. It's on the Man from Hong Kong,
900
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:52.760
multi part disc multiplayer. It's it's a Blu ray but
901
01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.480
it has a lot of other stuff of marketing standard
902
01:04:55.480 --> 01:05:02.280
dep So, having done Danger Free and Death Cheaters and
903
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.320
he did the fire stunts in hospitals don't burn Down,
904
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:09.880
I was looking for the next step, something that would
905
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:14.119
actually be a starring vehicle for him, whereas he was
906
01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:19.360
co lead in Death Cheaters. And this was the idea
907
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:22.639
I had in the shower. You know, famous stuntman meets
908
01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:26.199
famous rock group, much stunt and much rock takes place,
909
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:31.480
kids will tear up the seats, And so I said
910
01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:35.199
about writing it and the way we went, and somehow
911
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.119
it went immediately because that was how he couldmit and
912
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:42.280
this guy could winter in Beverley Hills. And part of
913
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:44.400
the deal was that it has to be has to
914
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:48.159
have a Dutch star actress in it. So we had
915
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:51.800
Monique van der Venn, who was in all the early
916
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:59.639
Paul Viehoven films, Cut Your Tiple and other such pictures,
917
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:04.360
much art movies, and she was going to Hollywood to
918
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.199
see if she could break in there, and this would
919
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.360
be something for her to do at that time. So
920
01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:14.519
she played the TV star who always wants to do
921
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.519
stunts but they won't let her, and she meets the
922
01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:22.559
stunt man who eventually teaches her how to ab sale
923
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:28.280
off twelve story building and Monique actually did that stunt.
924
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:36.079
Her husband at that time, Jan Devont, top cinematographer who
925
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:40.360
then went on to become the director of Speed Twister
926
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:46.039
and the appalling remake of The Haunting Don't See It,
927
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:52.840
But a talented visualizer. Jan Devond was married to Monique
928
01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:56.360
and he said, no, you are absolutely not going to
929
01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:02.079
do that ab sailing stunt yourself? Right? No, No, of
930
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:07.360
course I went. So Mike said, I want to do it.
931
01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:12.480
So we cheated her and she did it herself. And
932
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:16.960
she was doing it just as he drove up in
933
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:22.320
his open sports car to park right by the Roosevelt
934
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:27.320
it was. It was a downtown La hotel. And as
935
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:30.480
he was driving up to park, he could see this
936
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:37.880
blonde person hurdling downward down the rope towards the brakemen
937
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.039
at the bottom who yanked on the rope just in time.
938
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:45.760
And grand was one of them, and you know, the
939
01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:49.840
rope locked in the carabiner on her belt, and a
940
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:53.960
flume of smoke friction came off it, and she just
941
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:57.159
came to a hawk just above their heads and then
942
01:07:57.239 --> 01:08:02.199
sank in Grant's arms, and and JD just got out
943
01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:04.360
of his car by that time, and having seen what
944
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:07.440
he thought was the stunt double you know, to do
945
01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:09.840
the stunt. And then as he walked up he could
946
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:13.880
suddenly see it was Bunny who did it. By the way,
947
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:19.600
It was furious well anyway, but yeah, he was good
948
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:24.119
about it. But Moneque was great anyway. So the film
949
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:28.760
was made for God. I think the movie cost four
950
01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:32.319
hundred and fifty. The music cost one hundred and fifty,
951
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:37.279
so six hundred thousand, and you know, we just had
952
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:39.600
a lot of bad luck with it. Distributors bought it
953
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:44.079
and then went bankrupt constantly. Allied artists went bankrupt and
954
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:49.119
tried to keep it to swell their assets for sale,
955
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:53.720
but we had to get get that back and anyway,
956
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:57.960
so British company that bought it, they went bankrupt. The
957
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:02.720
Dutch company didn't know how to release it, and so
958
01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:07.119
it kind of became a quickly forgotten film. But then
959
01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:11.920
it developed. It went out on VHS and it just
960
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.960
sort of started to develop a special cult following. It's
961
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:20.600
not for everybody. It's it's plotless, it's it's like a
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01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:26.119
dramatized documentary. That is, you know, obviously you know scripted
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01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:32.039
uh and and pauses for little sort of you know,
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01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:36.720
little riffs on other kinds of stunt work, and of course,
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01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:40.600
you know a variety of songs from sorcery. This band
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01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:45.279
that we recruited, they'd been declared illegal by the Fire
967
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.159
Marshal of la after they performed at the Whisky a
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01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:52.000
Go Go, because you know, firing propane from your fingertips
969
01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:56.720
was really not quite in accordance with the regulations. But
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01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:01.119
they were perfect for us UH, and so they put
971
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.920
on a great combination magic and pyrotechnic act along with
972
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:10.359
good old fashioned heavy metal rock and roll. So it's
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01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:14.520
a film you should see on the biggest screen possible
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01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.000
at home, and DVDs can be found of it. I'm
975
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:20.960
going to get a blu ray out this year where
976
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:23.880
it will from the original negative so it will look
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01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:31.359
absolutely beautiful and it has multipanels with split screens and
978
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:35.439
all sorts of good things in it. Anyway, you should
979
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:40.800
sit around with a group of friends with the the
980
01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:44.760
livation of your choice and have a good laugh and
981
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:51.079
a good gasp as he does things you think, oh
982
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:56.880
my god, he actually Wow, he actually did. Yeah, and
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01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:01.239
he did. And that grant is eighty. Now we had
984
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:05.199
chat from time to time across the Pacific. Great guy,
985
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:10.279
and he's he wants to roll a car when he
986
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:18.399
on his eighty fifth birthday. That's his ambition. So anyway, well,
987
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:22.600
look what wal can I say before I wrap up?
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01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:27.680
I mean, we talk about BMX bandit with a young
989
01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:29.840
Nicole kidman. What was that like to film with her?
990
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:38.239
Oh? It was wonderful. When she auditioned, the producers said, well,
991
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:41.239
you know, she is good, but she's taller than the
992
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:43.359
two boys. And you know, I don't think that's going
993
01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:46.600
to work, you know. And she was written as the
994
01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:50.079
tag along girl. It was all meant to be them,
995
01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:55.840
and you know, and so I said, are you crazy?
996
01:11:56.279 --> 01:12:00.199
You know? You know, look at her. The camera loves though.
997
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.279
She's got legs up to her armpits. She's got a
998
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:08.079
shock of frizzy ready are she is gorgeous and she
999
01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:11.399
is It can make some of this clunky dialogue actually
1000
01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:13.640
work better than I thought. And she has she has
1001
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:16.600
a nice sense of comedy timing, and so no, I
1002
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:22.279
want her, so we have. She was booked and didn't.
1003
01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:26.239
She was still fifteen at the time, and she was
1004
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:31.159
very cooperative and you know, very anxious to do well.
1005
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:36.960
And when she sprained her ankle on the second night
1006
01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:41.039
of shooting, and thought that I would have to replace
1007
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:42.840
her because she wouldn't be able to ride the bike
1008
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:47.239
for a while. And I said, Nikki, I did not
1009
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:51.319
hire you for your bike riding skills, and we have
1010
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:54.960
a stun double and don't worry. You'll you'll be back
1011
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:58.079
in the saddle no time at all, and you'll be fine.
1012
01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:01.880
And sure enough she was. Within about four days. She
1013
01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:05.000
was writing without any difficulty and all the difficult stuff
1014
01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:07.720
was done by the stunt doubles, and we could never
1015
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:12.239
get a girl who was her as slender as Nicole.
1016
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:15.000
We had to get an eighteen year old boy to
1017
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:19.199
do her stunt work, which you know, caused him some embarrassment,
1018
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:22.399
you know, because he had to walk around with her
1019
01:13:22.439 --> 01:13:30.760
wig on. But it was delightful. And as you're seeing
1020
01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:35.039
the book I gave. Brought her to dinner with a
1021
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:39.000
big journalist in Sydney just before the release of the
1022
01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:42.359
film and stated that I believed that she was one
1023
01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:44.920
day going to be a star, and that she would
1024
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:49.600
have you know, powerful roles in every decade of her life,
1025
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:52.920
and that she'd probably end up as some kind of
1026
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:58.760
Catherine Hepburn playing feist grandmother's in her eighties. And I
1027
01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:02.359
actually believe that that wably come true. That she's accumulated
1028
01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:09.439
a great body of work very well. Yeah, and she's
1029
01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:14.520
actually a really nice person. I mean I haven't spoken
1030
01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:17.800
to her for years because you know, I live below
1031
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:23.479
her radar, but she, you know, by all reports, she's
1032
01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:29.920
a very genuine, unspoiled person. So that that is good.
1033
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:33.479
And so I'm I I you know, I tried, I
1034
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:37.159
did whatever I could promote her at that time. When
1035
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:42.039
the film was finished, well, I think you know, I
1036
01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:45.479
showed it to an American producer who was doing Five
1037
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:52.119
Mile Creek, a sort of Disney Channel series in Australia,
1038
01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:54.520
and he said he was looking for someone to play
1039
01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:57.199
a seventeen year old Irish waif. And I said, I've
1040
01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:59.720
got just the girl for you, and I showed him
1041
01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:02.600
the film and he duly hired her for season three
1042
01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:06.439
of Five Mile Creek. But it was when and she
1043
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:08.760
just went from job to job. At the moment she
1044
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:11.960
finished my film, the word spread and she just never
1045
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.039
stopped working. And then she got the big break, which
1046
01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:22.479
was Dead Calm phil Moye's breakthrough movie. And after that,
1047
01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:29.199
well enter Tom Cruise and the rest is history and anyway,
1048
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:34.279
so well good, Yeah, do have I couple of bases
1049
01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:34.840
that you want?
1050
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:37.960
Absolutely, even though we had so much to ask, you know,
1051
01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:40.600
you've covered a lot and we really appreciate you coming
1052
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:42.960
on the show tonight and giving us your time.
1053
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:47.520
Yeah. Well, can I just suggest to all your listeners
1054
01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:51.439
that I don't what it costs in the UK for
1055
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:55.840
the paperback. It's twenty dollars US. In it's probably about
1056
01:15:55.880 --> 01:16:00.199
fifteens in the UK. But if that's too much or
1057
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:04.279
most all, particularly in the time of COVID lockdown and
1058
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:17.000
economic despair, and then the kindle is affordable. And I've
1059
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:21.560
written the book so that on the kindle on your computer,
1060
01:16:22.079 --> 01:16:25.319
it plays like a sort of movie magazine.
1061
01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:27.760
Oh I see, Yeah, one.
1062
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:32.199
Hundred and fifty pages of pictures in the five hundred
1063
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:36.600
and eighty pages of the book, and on the kindle
1064
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:39.479
they're all in color. In the book it said they're
1065
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:42.479
in black and white. Just simply come to have that
1066
01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:43.720
much color in the book.
1067
01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:45.039
Yeah, it's very.
1068
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:52.880
Yeah. I guarantee anyone who reads the book will have
1069
01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:56.800
a few laughs and maybe your jaw draft occasionally. But
1070
01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:00.439
I have I have to go now. I love to
1071
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:07.840
talk to you for hours. Maybe again. Sometimes I might
1072
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:12.119
have to go to Germany in November for a movie
1073
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:15.199
convention I tend I intend to come through the UK
1074
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:19.000
my way to and from, so maybe we will actually
1075
01:17:19.039 --> 01:17:19.760
meet in person.
1076
01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:23.520
Absolutely, Thank you.
1077
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:29.319
Thanks interesting and I will Yeah, let you go now.
1078
01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:31.840
You stay safe.