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All right, what's happening out there? Everybuddy, welcome to come for the
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count right here on the retro wrestling
revival. I am John Wineland. Joining
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me as always, is my cohost
and tag team partner, the man himself,
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the Monday night real deal. He'll
Mr Ritchie reared. And what's going
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on, my friend? How are
you tonight? Not Much, man.
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This is my favorite time a week. We crack into the attitude chronicles and
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it I couldn't be happier to be
here tonight. And you can put that
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on a crack a dude. Oh, you can definitely put that on the
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cracker, my friend. It's going
to be a fun night tonight. So
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how's everything going for you? Doing
good? Yeah, yeah, man,
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I'm doing good. Everything's going clean
and serene for me. I'm doing awesome
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at my job and and Christmas is
around the corner. At all the gifts
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bought. Life is good right now, man. We're just we're just rejoicing
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in the birth of Jesus here in
a few weeks and and and and really
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getting to spend time of family.
So I don't think it gets much better
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than this time of year. Absolutely, man. How's it going? Mr
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Mike Keaton, good to see out
here tonightmare. So up, brother man.
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Is going good with you tonight and
everybody else out there. So you
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got all your shopping done? How
you ready for Christmas? A hundred percent.
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Amazon's a beautiful thing, baby.
You could fucking hord or anything off
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there. So to get all my
Christmas early. Man, isn't it the
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worst going to the fucking mall and
going shopping and stuff? I don't do
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it anymore, man, I refuse
to do it. People get crazy out
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there, so I just stay in
the comfort of my own home and order
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that shit online, just like everybody
should. Yea Some asshole will tackle you
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down for a hundred dollar forty inch
TV or something at Walmart. It's like,
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yeah, that's the real Christmas spirit
right there. Huh, yeah,
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yeah, I'll spend the extra cash, Bro to get that fucking forty inch
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TV delivered to the House. Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
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I try to avoid the mall,
like you know, and all that crap,
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like the plague. I like just
the holidays for going and see in
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the lights and just the you know, their bamily atmosphere, man, and
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the real purpose of it. You
know, and it's just, you know,
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it's too commercialized for me, but
nonetheless it's always, you know,
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it's always my favorite time of the
year, around the holiday. So I'm
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excited to have Christmas. I can't
believe this. Are here next week.
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It's pretty crazy. We're almost in
two thousand and twenty two. We've been
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in this pandemic for a little bit
now. I remember me and you were
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like when this whole thing first start, we were like it's gonna be a
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couple months, will probably bounce out
of this thing. Shit, man,
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this is like a normal way of
life. Now we're just sitting here like
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Jesus Christ, I was always this
thing going to end. Yeah, I
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was at my daughter's course concert last
night and I was just sitting there in
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the crowd and New York just remanded
at everything with, you know, you
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got to wear masks and stuff again, and I'm just sitting there, look
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at it. Everybody in a mask
and it's like you don't even recognize people
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anymore. You know, I know, it's it's just at life has just
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changed so dramatically over the last two
years too, for everybody, and I
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really hope we can get it back
to normal. We're here real hundred percent,
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you know. That's why we do
these shows too. We like to
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have fun, man, and if
people aren't tough times out there, we
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hope if you check it out you're
enjoying yourself. I'm one, come all,
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baby. We like to I fun
here. If you're if you're an
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old school wrestling fan, this is
the place to be. It just take
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your mind off of the bullshit of
life and all the other stuff that's going
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on out there, you know.
So we hope we can bring that to
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you now tonight. It's going to
be a fun show. We're doing our
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attitude are chronicle show where we started. We've been having a blast with this.
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What have we done? Two or
three of these already? Yes,
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and it's been incredible and scaving a
spinoff ideas on other shows and stuff like
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that. So yeah, it's amazing, a good time. You forget some
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of the angles and things that are
going on until you go back and kind
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of do these watch alongs and stuff. So that's why I love doing these
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old school watch logs because there's so
much that you can forget that what's going
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on at the time, and this
is a great time with wwe. Yeah,
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it's not the best in regards to
what they're going to bring out later
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on when the attitude are really kicks
off, but this is where we're slowly
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starting to see them kind of shift. And here it is now. We're
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in June of ninety six. June
ten to night of ninety six is where
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we're at and we're coming right up
on King of the Ring Ninety six,
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which is one of the most historic
moments, you know, in wrestling.
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It was the birth of a legend
in the star right there with you know
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stone, called Steve Boston. So
the wrestling business is about to really change
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over the next couple weeks for the
WWF, whereas in WCW it's already changed
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over there with the outsiders coming over. That's kind of why we started at
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this areas because if you if you
really want to look at it, the
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first shot across the bow, for
instance, was what was Scott how going
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over to WC Dobie. I mean, if you don't, if you don't
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recognize that, then you don't see
where the attitude are started. My it's
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a great time in the show.
Tonight's going to be a fun one here
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tonight. You know, I like
these rows too, because they're only about
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like forty five minutes longer. So
because they were our back in the day,
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which I'm excited when they go up
to two hours actually too, because
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that was I think two hours is
that sweet spot right. It's just enough.
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It does just perfect. Like three
hours over kill. Always to me
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three hours is over saturate. It
just you can't too much. Can't write
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three hours of content every week and
fit everyboody in there. It's just it's
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too much. It's like you're just
throwing shit up against a wall and trying
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to make it stick for everybody,
to make it stick on represent and you
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just can't do it. So these
one hour shows are always fun because they
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fly by, and then the two
hour shows are even better to me because
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that's when they can really start developing
better story lines which you started. You
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start to see their story lines really
start to develop a lot more and a
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lot more players start to come out
on this two hour shows because they actually
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have enough space on television for them, because these one hour shows, let's
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be realistic, you got enough to
really cover three matches, probably a couple
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of backstage vignettes or interviews so you're
probably only highlighting about ten to twelve people
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on the show, if it's tag
teams or, you know, even if
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it's those backstage vignettes, or even
if it's repeats, you know, where
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they're showing things that have been happening
over the couple weeks. There's only a
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good dozen people that are getting showcased
on an hour long show, whereas you
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know, you put that up to
two hours and arguably you'll at least double
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that, I'm sure, your output, if not even more, you know,
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because they were never known for really
long matches on like raw and everything
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like that. No, not at
this point, you know, and you
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know rightfully. So they only had
an hour to kill. But tonight shows
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fun. We got some more king
of the ring qualifying matches. Let me
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read the card out for everybody tonight
here. So tonight show. pull it
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up. So tonight show features a
King of the ring qualifying match. We
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Got Owen Heart with his manager Jim
Cornett, and he's taken on Yoko Zuna.
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That's interesting matchup right there. What
do you think? Oh, definitely
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that's going to be an interesting one
to watch. What's your thoughts on Yoko
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Zuna? I don't know if me
you ever really talked about him before.
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No, we haven't. I've seen
a lot of his work. YOGO's one
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of those guys were he was an
incredible big man for the business. was
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I huge fan of Yoko Zona?
I got to be honest, I wasn't.
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I'm still not to this day.
I don't see it. I don't
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understand maybe the gimmick that they were
trying to sell off. Do I respect
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what he did for the industry.
Absolutely complete legend. Just not a fan
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of it entirely myself. You know, Mr Fuji, I thought was the
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whole act compared to Yoko Zona.
I thought if if Fuji Wasn't there,
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then Yoka Zona would have been done
in the water and I don't think anybody
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would ever talk about him. So
that's just my opinion. Mr Fuji's a
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manager that people often forget that was. It was a real staple on television
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for many one of us and really
really played a great role. And yes,
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he fit really well and a lot
of the roles that they gave him
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here in the mid S. and
you know, his pairing with Yoko Zuno
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was one that I think help yo
go out a lot. I don't know,
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you'll you'll go went on to have
a pretty nice few years. Funny
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thing with Yokozuna, as you look
with him, is he was at the
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top of his game. He was
virtually unbeatable for several years, you know,
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with the exception of a couple losses
here and there. And if they
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sold them as Asian, he wasn't
even Asian. Yeah, he was Samoan.
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You Samoan? Yeah, you know. And the thing was with him
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he only had a very short run
up there because his weight got so out
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of control that they just they couldn't
depend upon him anymore because it was so
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unhealthy for him and they knew it. So that a lot of the lot
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of parallels to under the giant ton, you know, and I mean his
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eating habits that they talked about for
Yokozuna was insane. Like they'll talk about
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how he was, you know,
would take Turkey legs, full Turkey legs
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and dumplement of Adam mannaise and dip
it in and eat it that way,
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and it's like Oh, I mean
imagine if he just would have lost some
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pounds put that effort in. I
mean I'm sure he might still be alive
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today. You know if he would
have? Yeah, but would he have
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been as special had he lost the
weight? I think you see a lot
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of actors in Hollywood right that shrink
up and then at that you know.
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Jonah Hill has been one of them
that you know you lose the weight and
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then all of a sudden you know
you're not getting casting calls. And I
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feel like Yoga Zona's weight is what
made him special in a lot of ways.
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Yeah, it was, but I
think if he would have dropped at
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least a couple hundred pounds to still
get around that three hundred and fifty,
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two four hundred range, I think
they could have made the gimmicks still work
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with them there. So you think
if he would have stayed like a Rakishi,
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he would have been okay? I
think he could have been, absolutely,
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because he still would have been a
big guy. That was believable.
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It was the fact that he was
close to seven hundred pounds at the end
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of his run and was now was
that Kfebe? Was He actually have we
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verified that he was almost seven hundred
pounds? Yeah, they said. They
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said they would have to actually get
a cargo scale out into come and way
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that heavy and I believe Jim Ross
has said that at the height of it,
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what they sent him invader to like
a nutritional revot. was that big
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do he was? He that was
the reason vader ended up leaving at the
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end was they just couldn't do it
anymore. That was one of all.
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That was one of the reasons.
So they said Vader and Yoko over to
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a you know, like kind of
like a Rehab for eating, basically to
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get them a Dietitian and get him
under control. And I like fat camp
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in the military. Yeah, a
hundred percent. You know, they were
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sending him over to it and they
were both sneaking in food and they're finding
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ways to get delivered. They didn't
take it seriously. Did you just imagine
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like going somebody's literally telling you like
Hey, you're seven hundred pounds? Yeah,
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like I look at the scale and
I'm like I'm getting close to like
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a hundred eighty pounds, like I
need to drum chill. Seven hundred fucking
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pounds. Seven hundred pounds. Yep, you know what? And Jim Ross
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has talked about that because, you
know, I think he was had a
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talent relations or something like that.
When they ended up releasing them that they
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just wouldn't put the food down.
So he wasn't at all dude, was
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he? I don't think so.
I think he was only like six one
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maybe sex God, someone a hundred
pounds six to ges Christ could have been
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a really big force. If he
would have been down to three hundred and
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fifty, like a Rakishi size,
like you mentioned people, he still would
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have been believable because he still would
have been big and at least he would
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have been, you know, I
don't wait, healthier. How the fuck
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did you move around the ring?
What do you do? You see it
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at the end with him, you
know, and as yeah, run where
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he can bare leaving. That's why
they put him in a tag team with
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I think it was own hard was
at the end of his run there.
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Basically was because he just couldn't move. Yeah, he couldn't move and get
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around. He could do a couple
of spots and that was about it.
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So they had to pair him up
with somebody that could actually do the bulk
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of the work. So Owen was
kind of there and was the bulk of,
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you know, the work with him. But I don't know, I
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always liked Yoko. I just wish
she could have stayed healthier and would have
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maybe taken more seriously. It's always
one of those kind of questions you wonder,
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what if, if you would have
taken in a little bit more seriously,
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and how much longer could he have
gone for? Would he still be
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alive today? I don't know.
We don't know the questions to that.
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Will never know and it's a it's
a tragic story to see, but people
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talk very fondly of him as being
a kind and generous man to so that's
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a good legacy that he left behind
and he had a hell of a run
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and was fun to watch in a
lot of weight and a lot of things
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too. And Owen Heart. What
can you not say about own heart?
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We've talked about him a million times, so it'll be fun to see those
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two tonight. Friend of the show, Mr Mark Merrow, with sables here
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tonight and he's taken on skip and
a King of the ring qualifying man.
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Much anytime I see Mark Carrow,
yes, Kip Knot Zip, but skip
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nots not zip the skin yep,
and he's sinking on. Mark Merrow here
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in a qualifimage. I love Mark
Marrow. What do you think? About
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Mark Marrow Man. Mark Merrow was
incredible man. I even loved him as
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a marvelous one. I thought it
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was very underrated. His move set
was very entertaining and I feel like with
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the right push, you know,
honestly, I think they ruined him with
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the whole sable turning on him and
he kind of beating him and just it
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was. It was a very bad
way of ending his career. You know,
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Johnny be bad was always entertaining to
me and WCW. I always thought
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that was a very entertaining character and
I wish we would have got that transition
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over to WC or to wwe.
Unfortunately we never got that. But marvelous
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marrow was even entertaining in itself.
It was just they went off into this
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area was sable, and you saw
what that turned out to be. It
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was a total nightmare, not for
her but definitely for him. Yeah,
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he let me tell you, he's
one of the nicest people in real life
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to like. One of the biggest
privileges we've had over the years on the
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show's having mark on earlier this year
and what a hall of fame human being
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and just an amazing, just amazing
person in so many ways that I you
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just can't, I couldn't. I
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He's such a gracious person and what
he loves his fans, he loves
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people. He doing so much good
for the world now and just an awesome
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guy man. So anytime I see
mark on it always just makes me smile
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because I love the person that he
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I love what he was doing.
I think he could have been a main
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event player if they would have given
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an attitude sometimes at that point in
his life too. So you know,
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it works both ways and it is
what it is and I get where every
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side is coming from on it and
it is what it is and that's life.
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That's how it works and you could
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no hard feelings. That's how it
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of Guy Mark Merrow is. It's
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event tonight we got Davey Boy Smith, the British bull dog, taking on
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the undertaker. Oh that's an interesting
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I'm actually looking forward to that.
Davey boys incredible worker, not not so
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much on the on the Gimmick scale, but as far as enring skills,
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Davy Boys, great undertaker. How
much more king you fucking say about him?
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Seriously, incredible an event. What
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I mean we talked about him last
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like, and he's gonna he's going
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the years on the show. Yes, because of what he did, but
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damn man, the undertaker that that, that's just signed me a baby.
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Yeah, hundred percent. You know, it's going to be fun when when
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takers on their real quick programming note
for everybody is just so everybody knows we're
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going to still have our normal episodes
come out around the holidays. You know,
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everything's we're not going to short change
you on anything with our normal content
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that we put out. So everything
we're taping, a bunch of stuff we're
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going to be doing taking the award
show, which is going to be fun
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next week, so that's going to
be coming up. But we got a
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bunch of stuff still planned for you
guys. So don't worry about the hollies.
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Yeah, I think it's're not going
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be live once or twice during,
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It's the end of the year,
it's the holidays. You know, we
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got family commitments going on. So
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won't be as much live. Only
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Ritchie and I are going to get
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couple weeks, you know, in
advanced night as well after. So just
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know it's just not going to be
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weeks, but right after the first
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that point where we're doing the you
know, two to three live shows a
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week. It's just we want to
do spend the right time with my son's
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coming home this weekend, so I
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him when he's home, and same
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quick programming note on that. That's
where we're at. Don't worry, though.
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We'll have a bunch of great stuff
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don't have any fear on that if
you like, if you want your pro
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wrestling fix for the retro stuff,
it's definitely come in your way, along
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with some other fun stuff. With
that said, Mr Rearden, are you
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ready to roll? Buddy? Ready, baby, all right, man.
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So let's do this. Anybody,
if you want to watch along with us,
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go right now on over to the
peacock APP. This is season four,
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episode twenty three, a Monday night
raw. The date on it is
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June ten, one thousand nine hundred
and ninety six. So if you want
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to watch along with does, head
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You'll get it right there. So
let's get going. WE'RE gonna go
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in five hundred, four, three, two one and go the Revolutionary Force
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in sports interest entertainment. I love
these old I love these old intros that
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they would do. Yes, just
brings you back right, it does,
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man. Oh, here it is, the great Monday night raw opening to
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I love the siren going off here
in a minute. Yeah, it's beautiful.
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I wish they would bring back this
type of style, like raws war
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like this. You know, it
will ever happen, ever happen again.
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Dude, it never happen again.
Unfortunately, it will not. We can
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only dream, though, right.
Yeah, Yo, can get already out.
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Look at him, Dude, Oh
God, look at look at the
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warrior. He's jacked. WHOOF man. Yeah, he's pretty fucking shredded right
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there. Huh. Look at the
king's hair man. Always got the long
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bullet going on in the back.
They're yeah, Huh. Always got a
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presentation for the warrior. Than I
know what this yeah, you remember this?
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Yeah, I do. Yeah,
I remember this. Actually, I
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remember this. I think the king
actually drew that. He did. He
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drew it for him to present it
to him tonight. That's what type of
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stand up guy the king is.
Look at the King of hearts. Oh
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yeah, Owen Heart, come slammy. I love him coming out with the
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SLAMM. He's man, he's so
funny with it. He was. And
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there's his manager, Mr Jim Cornett. Look at triple a, Sir Young
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Ale. Ah, Huh, look
at that man backing. I'm gonna go
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there. Look at him jump out. Now that's my memory. Why does
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he have a cat? Why does
he have a cast I don't remember,
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to be honest with yeah, I
have. I don't even remember whatsoever.
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Why he has a cast on.
I don't know if it was a real
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life injury or if it was something
he was playing up where he would kind
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of use the cast, as I
think he was like. I think he
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would like use the cast to his
advantage in a match or something. Sure
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his time is about to run to
an end. Here is King of the
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ring here, because the new king
of the rings coming out and maybe he'll
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get a chance to win it again, but I think Stone Cold Steve Austin
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will have something to say about that, right. Yeah, absolutely. Look,
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yeah, I look at Yoga Dude. He looks just fucking terrible,
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doesn't he? Oh my God,
how could you move her? I like,
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I give him credit for even walk
and look how a lot of breath
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he is already. Yeah, like
he has to grab the ropes to hold
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himself up at certain points. When
talks about five or six steps, it's
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bad. Yeah, he's easily right
here. Six hundred, seven hundred pounds
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right here easily. Jesus man.
It's amazing when you go back you can
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see some of his old stuff actually, that I think he did some when
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he first came in, before they
did the Yoko Gimmick, that he did
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some dark matches. That they've shown
through the years of him and he was
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doing like a wild Samoan type look
like Rakishi and them did, with the
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head shrinkers and all that, and
you could just see he was probably a
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good three hundred pounds less than when
he is right here. Man Jim Cornetch
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is knocked him with the tennis racket
in the chops. I mean honestly,
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when success hits you and you're bigger
guy like that, like you're going to
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get bigger. Oh well, no
doubt about that. And you know,
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people overlook food. Foods an addiction
to it's like drugs are alcohol for some
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people can become an addiction. Absolutely. I never it's hard for me to
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understand it, but because I'm not
like some huge eater or anything like that,
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we're right. I could ever see
like because I'm like you. If
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I see myself popping up near a
hundred ninety pounds, you know I'm freaking.
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I'M gonna know. Listen happening.
I better make some changes here to
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drop a couple of pounds. Yeah, I hit two hunding dirty when me
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and you started podcast, and I
hit two hundred thirty and I'm down to
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one hundred and ninety and I'm like
Nope, yeah, it just never go
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like baby never again. It's amazing, like it's I get it, though,
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I really do. I understand what
people and I sympathize with it because
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it's an addiction and it's out of
control quick and you don't realize it.
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Yep, it's like anything, like
we're drug rock, all addiction. I
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can get out of girl really fast. Sure, that's just the way it
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goes. What's your time stamp out
now, Mr Reardon? Like time stamp
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is four hundred and fifty one.
All right, we're right around the same.
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So that's perfect. Who Got Ref
Red Button here? Oh, he
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said by that at that big Gom
on and we got referee Earl Hebner,
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and there to the second greatest referee
of all time, Nick Patrick. We
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all knows number. When we just
say that, Earl Hebner must know what
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the Fountain Youth is, because that
motherfucker just never ages. He's like Jimmy
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hard. Oh my God, Jimmy
Hart's the same way. He's like in
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his S. I think now they
never age. They look exactly like they
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did when they first started off.
Pretty Crazy, earl earl hevener, a
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little bit more than Jimmy hard even
very well could be. They both look
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just tremendous for their age and just
tremendous in general. They look exactly the
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same now as they do back then. I was going to say I don't
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know if it's if it's tremendous looking. It's just they haven't changed. Well
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for their age. It's tremendous,
like an all damn ki fell. Nope,
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he is not. Okay, I
thought he's gonna go for the sharp
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too, or I'm like, there
ain't no way in hell. Well,
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he got the pin there. That's
a surprising victory. Huh, not at
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all, not at all. What
a fall from grace it is for him
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and got it looked awful. You
gotta wonder, like what they're thinking at
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this point in time. They got
to be saying to themselves, I can't,
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it's about to be a wrap.
Yeah, like it's got it.
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You gotta say to yourself when you're
bringing something like, like when he's looking
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at that out there, like you
got to say, as the leader of
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the company, like I can't in
good conscience bring you out there. It's
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like when a fighter it's enabling.
Yeah, like when a fighters taken too
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many fucking shots to the head and
had too many wars through the years and
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they become punchy and get knocked out
all the time. Like you don't want
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to see that for them. No, same for him. He just not
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even fans when to see that.
You know, look at that graphic right
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there. Look at the warrior baby. Who Think? I think Royal Warrior
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was hitting the juiceman. Oh,
you gotta come on now. Yeah,
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if you don't believe that, then
I don't know what to tell you.
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All right, so they're doing.
They're doing highlights from some something that last
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night at the Rosemont Horizon and Chicago. That's going to be some hole in
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the wall fucking place for them.
I think the Rose Moonson is a pretty
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decent size actually, is it?
Yeah, think's my twelve, maybe fifteenzero
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people could sit there. Warrior Versus
Shaw N. Huh, interesting. The
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Click Cam. Do you remember that? Yep, yeah, boy, they
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were having fun of that House show. See it live. Where they going
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to be? I look a stable
and terry there. Why, they're beautiful
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women. Huh? It was a
few short years later they weren't. Yeah,
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I think Terry still a knockout really
yeah, I think she still looks
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great. She's another I think she's
about sixty. She still looks really good.
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When she was with new Jack for
a short period of time. That
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was a short period of time after
her medical west Arena and Phoenix. Look
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at that. There you go.
She never really had much of a place,
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it seemed, after Dustin and her
broke up. No, but I
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do like Terry there. I always
like Terry as a character. I thought
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she was pretty fun. Oh,
look at Jake here in interview with him
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from the Action Zone. Do you
remember the action zone? I don't.
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I do. I got a I
got a commercial, though, unfortunately.
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Right. I'll pause it up about
forty five seconds here. Beyonce and Jay
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Z. Oh, Hey, they
doing anything fun and exciting on it?
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Absolutely not. You like. Please, for the love of God, don't
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hit me with this commercial. I've
had enough of these fuckers. Tissany and
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Co about love? Yeah, I'm
sure it's about love when you're spending fucking
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five grand on a necklace for somebody. Let's get to this beautiful earrings for
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ten g's that's got to show him
your love by giving him that's well,
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yeah, five thousand Dollar Watch.
Here's a bracelet for for for a cool
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seven. That a love. I
don't know what is seriously, good,
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Lord Man, I'm five seconds.
Five seconds, folkes, you're good.
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00:25:30.769 --> 00:25:34.690
Don't worry. Sorry, my cheapass
is not willing to pay for WWe to
407
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:37.079
give me commercial free. There we
go, Jake, right, yeah,
408
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:44.440
all right. So this is from
the action zone. I do not remember
409
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:48.640
the action zone. No, Ritchie, yeah, I don't remember it either.
410
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.589
That's kind of interesting. I don't
know what Jake is talking about.
411
00:25:52.589 --> 00:25:57.309
Makes too many pills, too much
cocaine? That he's don't talk about his
412
00:25:57.309 --> 00:26:02.109
drug use. They're really, really
quickly. Yeah, this was kind of
413
00:26:02.190 --> 00:26:07.579
the beginning of all that. Yeah, then they jerry started doing the stuff
414
00:26:07.579 --> 00:26:10.579
later on, pouring the bottle down
his mouth of alcohol and all that.
415
00:26:11.460 --> 00:26:14.700
Man, what do you think made
Vince think that that was okay to do
416
00:26:14.819 --> 00:26:18.140
angles like that? I don't like
those angles. anyways. I'm all about
417
00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:22.690
having fun and going being a little
controversial sometimes, but to me that's just
418
00:26:22.930 --> 00:26:26.250
that stuff is just classless. Like
like I was watching the Hawk an animal
419
00:26:26.609 --> 00:26:32.650
storyline last week and they started doing
it's a hawk, and I'm like what
420
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.160
the fuck, like what made you
think that was okay? You know,
421
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.960
God, when to find out that's
what he perish from. What is going
422
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.319
on, Mr Martin, how you
doing a night? My friend so bret,
423
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:52.630
a man Yo comn, just looks
just terrible. Here they're showing him
424
00:26:52.670 --> 00:26:56.109
in the back. I'll down and
dejected at this moment. That dude an
425
00:26:56.150 --> 00:27:02.500
Asian even a little bit. Yep, it kind of kills the kind of
426
00:27:02.539 --> 00:27:06.339
kills the name in the Gimmick.
When you hear him talk, he's even
427
00:27:06.339 --> 00:27:11.500
got the some Moan skirt on there. He's got to go, he says,
428
00:27:11.380 --> 00:27:18.529
find himself. All right, can't
concentrate because you carbohydrates are fucking driving
429
00:27:18.569 --> 00:27:22.970
your mind nuts. Yeah, here
comes the wild man, mark merrow coming
430
00:27:23.009 --> 00:27:30.480
out. There is what he looks
great, man, he's another guy.
431
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.440
If you tell if you take a
look at what you want a professional wrestler
432
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:34.880
to look like, is Mark Merrill
fit that or does he fit that?
433
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.440
Of that time frame? Absolutely,
Yep. Of that time frame one hundred
434
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:45.029
percent. Always Sable. WHOO.
As a manager, yeah, you can't
435
00:27:45.069 --> 00:27:49.990
get no better. She is smoke
into unfortunately. She found that out though.
436
00:27:52.390 --> 00:27:56.109
Yeah, God, look at her
and that outfit. HMM. WHOO.
437
00:27:57.309 --> 00:28:03.180
She was probably about every young man
and older man's fantasy in the audience.
438
00:28:03.259 --> 00:28:08.299
There has there ever been a story
on how these two met? Jesus,
439
00:28:08.420 --> 00:28:11.500
you know, I don't even know, to be honest with you,
440
00:28:11.980 --> 00:28:15.289
because I'll be on this. I
looked it up and you know, I
441
00:28:15.369 --> 00:28:22.569
can't confirm or deny but from what
I read she was his favorite stripper at
442
00:28:22.609 --> 00:28:26.809
a local strip club and they got
together interest. I'm not sure that.
443
00:28:26.890 --> 00:28:29.599
I can't confirm or deny that.
Like I said, he's a friend of
444
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.240
the show and if I'm wrong,
I'm wrong. But that's what I've read
445
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.559
through the stories and the rumors and
Innuendo. So yeah, I don't know.
446
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.349
I actually think he might have mentioned
Rena once in our interview. Maybe
447
00:28:41.349 --> 00:28:45.829
you talked about her at some point, maybe for a second, but I
448
00:28:45.910 --> 00:28:48.549
don't know they're backstory at all.
I know they were married for what about
449
00:28:48.549 --> 00:28:52.349
a decade or so? I'm decade. Yep. Yeah, they were married
450
00:28:52.349 --> 00:28:56.019
for about a deck lot longer than
people thought actually. Yeah, and you
451
00:28:56.099 --> 00:29:00.619
know the here's a fact that a
lot of people might not know. Is
452
00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:04.740
Mark's, you know, daughter is
actually not his daughter. It's Rena's daughter
453
00:29:04.819 --> 00:29:11.529
from another from another relationship or marriage
that he adopted. So that's his you
454
00:29:11.609 --> 00:29:14.970
know, his daughter is adopted from
her first marriage there and it became his
455
00:29:15.089 --> 00:29:19.049
kids. So I'm sure they probably
still have a nice and cordial relationship to
456
00:29:19.130 --> 00:29:23.130
this day. I never saw it, hope. So yeah, I never
457
00:29:23.210 --> 00:29:26.359
did. I never saw him class
each other. Let's see, Chris said.
458
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.039
I feel like it's extremely classes to
make storylines based on personal struggles,
459
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.160
like see him punk versus Jericho exploiting. See Him PUNK's family history of drugs
460
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.400
and alcohol, of brute abuse.
Yeah, I agree with that, Chris,
461
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.190
I really do. Man, I
don't like that stuff either, but
462
00:29:41.710 --> 00:29:45.789
I can see where adds a personal
touch to the storyline and it really adds
463
00:29:45.829 --> 00:29:49.390
on to the story. But is
it is is there a million other ways
464
00:29:49.470 --> 00:29:52.829
you could tell a story that you
don't have to use that at all and
465
00:29:52.900 --> 00:29:56.779
it still be interesting? Absolutely,
absolutely. And is it necessary? You
466
00:29:56.859 --> 00:29:59.900
know, like you said, there's
a million other ways that you can do
467
00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:02.859
it. Yeah, why do you
like the one, the one with hawk?
468
00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:04.619
You know, every time I see
the one with Hawk it pisses me
469
00:30:04.660 --> 00:30:08.970
off because there's there was no reason
for that. There was absolutely no reason
470
00:30:10.049 --> 00:30:14.490
for that at all. Make Fun
of somebody's, you know, history like
471
00:30:14.569 --> 00:30:18.170
that, you know on air or
some stupid and they're actually going through it
472
00:30:18.289 --> 00:30:22.480
at the time you make fun of
it. Yeah, pretty sad that when
473
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:29.079
he got to do that for yeah, this isn't you know, it's people's
474
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:33.000
real lives, you know, right, and you know people will say often
475
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:33.960
to that, you know, to
come bad that. Well, they would
476
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.589
have to agree on the storyline to
do it. If they say no,
477
00:30:37.829 --> 00:30:41.150
what's going to happen to him?
Right? They lose the spot? Yeah,
478
00:30:41.190 --> 00:30:42.549
they might lose their spot, they
might they might get go on all,
479
00:30:42.750 --> 00:30:48.430
look at Scott Home WCW. Sure
they might lose their spot, man,
480
00:30:48.509 --> 00:30:52.859
and they don't want to because they
know that they're very timelimited to make
481
00:30:52.900 --> 00:30:56.099
money and they don't want to get
caught when you're making good cash. So
482
00:30:56.099 --> 00:31:00.140
I get it, but I just
still think it sucks. There's is so
483
00:31:00.220 --> 00:31:03.859
many other things you can do.
We talked about Candido a lot on the
484
00:31:03.940 --> 00:31:07.250
show here. You know, here's
a guy that really really if he was
485
00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:11.089
around to day, he would be
a major player in my opinion, and
486
00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:12.490
you know, I think he's a
guy that people really could have got behind.
487
00:31:12.569 --> 00:31:15.490
Just at this time. He was
just too small, you know,
488
00:31:15.730 --> 00:31:18.839
like they never would have given him
that rub, so to speak, you
489
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.839
know, because they were of the
land of the big men. Would you
490
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.880
agree on that statement? You think
Candido could have made a pretty big impact,
491
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.440
maybe in the two thousand and twenty
one year? Yeah, you know
492
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.440
I do. But in the same
token, you know, you did make
493
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:37.470
a big impact and USW you know
a lot of people. You look at
494
00:31:37.509 --> 00:31:41.390
the eastw Brown they were third place
all the time. But fucking on a
495
00:31:41.470 --> 00:31:45.269
national scale, everybody knows that Chris
Candido is. So he did make a
496
00:31:45.309 --> 00:31:49.220
big splash. Could he fit in
more today with today's characters because they're that
497
00:31:49.339 --> 00:31:53.980
small? Yeah, absolutely. Unfortunately
he wrestled at the wrong time. But
498
00:31:55.940 --> 00:32:00.740
in the same token, you know, all due respect, Chris can Nedos
499
00:32:00.740 --> 00:32:02.529
one of the best guys to do
it. As far as ECW is concerned,
500
00:32:04.450 --> 00:32:07.170
that edgy or character that he used
an ECW just fit him perfectly.
501
00:32:07.210 --> 00:32:10.289
Yeah, it's not a guy that
you can get over these hockey and Corny
502
00:32:10.289 --> 00:32:14.210
gimmicks. You can't get them over
like that. Like yeah, the body
503
00:32:14.289 --> 00:32:16.279
Donna's was fun and for living,
is it? Come on, man,
504
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:20.400
it's fun for a little bit they
had a later run with the belts.
505
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:25.720
It's just cheesy, you know,
like make them actually look like they're legitimate,
506
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.910
you know, fucking tough guys or
bad breats. Yeah, like they
507
00:32:30.029 --> 00:32:34.789
look like just corny and Hokey Good
Brown do this. And I mean you're
508
00:32:34.829 --> 00:32:38.670
talking about two phenomenal workers and the
body, says Dr Tom Pritchard, one
509
00:32:38.670 --> 00:32:43.430
of the greatest his trainers in the
history of professional wrestling, and Chrisky Indido,
510
00:32:43.509 --> 00:32:46.420
a guy that, you know,
real hardcore wrestling fans put up there
511
00:32:46.940 --> 00:32:52.779
with pretty tremendous talent. Is as
a tremendous talent that had all the tools
512
00:32:52.819 --> 00:32:55.460
and all the skills to do anything
he wanted to do a hundred percent.
513
00:32:57.660 --> 00:33:00.730
But yeah, let's make him skip
and ZIP. Oh, drop kick.
514
00:33:00.809 --> 00:33:04.809
There is Candido's coming off the top. Man, they that will drop kick.
515
00:33:04.930 --> 00:33:09.210
Yep, Rina's walking around that whip
man. She's ready to nail somebody.
516
00:33:09.210 --> 00:33:19.000
Yep, who? That could have
ended up bad, though, when
517
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.119
you look at that replay how he
got look, that was a bad one.
518
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.549
Yeah, that could ended up pretty
bad there for him. What do
519
00:33:27.589 --> 00:33:31.349
you say? While man, are
you quitting? There's skip gold, he
520
00:33:31.390 --> 00:33:37.230
ate, so wild now, is
he those, but his lips. Yeah,
521
00:33:40.230 --> 00:33:45.500
Jake's on a commentary here. Well, no, there're seeing fucking what
522
00:33:45.619 --> 00:33:49.500
an elp the Candido's wearing, dude, and that's that's breaking the scatter.
523
00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:53.539
Blue Tights with red trunks. Yeah, those boots, those boots, leave
524
00:33:53.579 --> 00:33:55.970
something to be desired. They don't
really match up too well, do they
525
00:33:57.250 --> 00:34:00.450
know? No, that's terrible.
That's like he forgot the matching trunks to
526
00:34:00.529 --> 00:34:08.769
go with those sky blue boots there
and decided, like should who he boughts
527
00:34:08.889 --> 00:34:17.079
that one merrow's doings. Oh,
nice move, sunset, flip over,
528
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:23.349
leaping from the top. Very nice. I liked marks finisher at this point
529
00:34:23.389 --> 00:34:28.670
that he would do with the shooting
star press. Yeah, yeah, you
530
00:34:28.789 --> 00:34:31.190
couldn't. He couldn't do that later
on. But you want to know something
531
00:34:31.269 --> 00:34:37.510
funny he did? He just turned
sixty one this last summer and he has
532
00:34:37.550 --> 00:34:40.539
like a lakehouse out where he lives, I think it's in Georgia, Florida,
533
00:34:42.179 --> 00:34:45.139
and they were out at the lake
and he put it up on his
534
00:34:45.260 --> 00:34:50.019
personal facebook page and he actually got
up to the top of this like deck
535
00:34:50.139 --> 00:34:52.849
that jumped into the lake and he
did it multiple times. He did he
536
00:34:52.969 --> 00:34:57.250
did move. Yeah, he can
still do it at sixty one years old.
537
00:34:57.769 --> 00:35:00.329
Nice. Can you believe that Shit? I couldn't do it it twenty
538
00:35:00.409 --> 00:35:04.849
one years old, let alone sixty. He kept himself in great shape,
539
00:35:04.929 --> 00:35:09.360
though he still needed still in phenomenal
shape. Still in phenomenal shape. I
540
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.199
got a got an ad here twenty
four seconds? Sure? No from do
541
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:21.079
let me know when you're good.
Yeah, the wild band character was one
542
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.269
that they it seems to me that
they just were never fully invested into it
543
00:35:25.389 --> 00:35:29.510
for some reason. I know Vincel
and s McMahon loved his look and brought
544
00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:31.829
him in for that reason, but
he wrote Johnny Vince love, Johnny the
545
00:35:31.949 --> 00:35:35.670
bad yeah, they could have just
given him a new name. I don't
546
00:35:35.670 --> 00:35:37.099
know why they, you know,
couldn't have done something similar to it.
547
00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:39.659
You know, I know the WCW
on the rights to his name, but
548
00:35:40.260 --> 00:35:45.699
like they could have done something similar
to it right, changes fucking name up,
549
00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:50.570
but hey, whatever. He made
the wild man gimmick work there too,
550
00:35:50.730 --> 00:35:53.449
and Marvelous Mark Mayro. I think
is is a fun time for him
551
00:35:53.449 --> 00:36:00.409
to all right, you back on, buddy, absolutely all right, and
552
00:36:01.610 --> 00:36:05.840
well still to come. Tonight,
as Vince's reminding us, we have the
553
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:10.079
British bulldog taking on the undertaker in
the main event. Yeah, that's going
554
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.440
to be a good one. Now, did you ever go to any of
555
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.559
the old school rows like this back
when you were younger? Nope, I
556
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:22.190
was too young at this point.
It was up until Monday night raw and
557
00:36:22.349 --> 00:36:25.230
the war zone that I didn't get
to go to my first you up.
558
00:36:25.349 --> 00:36:30.030
So God. They were fun shows
to go to live, folks. I'm
559
00:36:30.030 --> 00:36:32.059
telling you, they were good time
to go lie back in the day when
560
00:36:32.099 --> 00:36:36.179
they when Raws Ward and they started
doing that kind of kind of whole rows
561
00:36:36.300 --> 00:36:39.099
war thing and with all the pyro
and all that Shit. I've been so
562
00:36:39.260 --> 00:36:44.380
many times to rawn and it was
always a freaking blast and I never forget
563
00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:47.329
out lowed those screamers war when they
would kick the show off there and they
564
00:36:47.409 --> 00:36:52.090
just go right you know, and
shooting everywhere. I remember when Kane came
565
00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:53.449
out to one time. I saw
when Kane was there at the show.
566
00:36:53.969 --> 00:36:58.570
We were sitting right near the front
and when he blasted that off, damn,
567
00:36:58.650 --> 00:37:05.119
that's loud. It will never be
do Lokidd no, he the exy
568
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.960
fires were allowed. Yep, SE
DX more than a few times live to
569
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.679
they were always fun once to go
watch. Always got the crowd going.
570
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:19.710
Whether they were heels or faces didn't
really matter. Your favorite life show ever?
571
00:37:19.869 --> 00:37:24.829
What do you got for me?
My favorite live show ever? Huh,
572
00:37:28.030 --> 00:37:35.820
God, that's tough one got.
I want to say my favorite one
573
00:37:35.980 --> 00:37:40.820
ever was probably the first elimination chamber
match. That, ever, was Nice,
574
00:37:42.460 --> 00:37:46.730
good time. That was an incredible
one. Didn't know what to expect
575
00:37:46.769 --> 00:37:50.530
at the Elimination Chamber. It was
this one, Michael's one, right,
576
00:37:50.570 --> 00:37:54.769
yeah, and it was very,
very first one and you really didn't know
577
00:37:54.929 --> 00:38:00.400
what the Elimination Chamber was even going
to be. So everybody was excited.
578
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.239
I remember me and my friends,
we all got to go right after right
579
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.360
after a school week you know,
on that weekend we all got together,
580
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.639
stayed the night my friend's house at
the time. We played smackdown, shut
581
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:15.510
your mouth when it had just come
out on the playstation console, and just
582
00:38:15.230 --> 00:38:19.070
had a ball, stayed up late
and then the next night we got to
583
00:38:19.070 --> 00:38:22.349
go to Summerslam. It was just
an incredible weekend, man. So I
584
00:38:22.469 --> 00:38:25.750
think it was more it wasn't so
much the event, it was just the
585
00:38:25.829 --> 00:38:30.820
whole weekend. was just an incredible
weekend. Absolutely that's cool. Man.
586
00:38:30.179 --> 00:38:34.500
Yeah, that's cool. I gotta
go with for me, as a kid,
587
00:38:35.260 --> 00:38:38.820
I saw whole coging and Macho man
right after wrestle mania five and I
588
00:38:38.940 --> 00:38:42.889
saw them in a steel cage at
a house. Here you go, I
589
00:38:42.929 --> 00:38:45.010
remember you telling me about this one. It was awesome and I remember.
590
00:38:45.010 --> 00:38:47.889
I remember that very, very well
as a little kid. It was really
591
00:38:47.929 --> 00:38:52.170
an awesome I was the biggest whole
COA maniac in the world at that point
592
00:38:52.170 --> 00:38:54.920
and seeing him against Macho right after
wrestle mania five and I was I was
593
00:38:55.039 --> 00:39:00.400
hooked and that was just such a
cool moment. And then, of all
594
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.480
things, I remember going to a
WCW thunder. That was absolutely a blast.
595
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.000
Hogan came back. He'd been gone
for a long while. I believe
596
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:14.070
it was in February of two thousand
maybe, and boy, I never heard
597
00:39:14.110 --> 00:39:17.110
of pop like that as I did
for Hogan that night. Yep, fucking
598
00:39:17.190 --> 00:39:22.750
place just came on glued. Yeah, I'll never get you know, I
599
00:39:22.869 --> 00:39:27.780
was a huge triple age fan at
the time and my buddies decided it was
600
00:39:27.820 --> 00:39:32.139
a good idea that they're going to
Oh man, I picked it up victory
601
00:39:32.219 --> 00:39:36.780
from Mark Merrill. My buddies thoughts
a good idea to flip triple h off
602
00:39:37.420 --> 00:39:39.769
and he looked our way and he
clearly could see us, you know,
603
00:39:40.329 --> 00:39:44.889
and I'm sitting there going no,
no, no, no, you know,
604
00:39:45.130 --> 00:39:49.210
it was crazy. That was actually
at the time. That was a
605
00:39:49.329 --> 00:39:52.679
house show and that was right when
Randy Orton was on the come up and
606
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:58.159
Chris Benwall was the heavyweight champion at
the time. Gotcha, good time,
607
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.960
Ma, good time in the professional
wrestling world. I had a fun show.
608
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:05.000
I saw triple h a live.
Remember when he tours quadrucept the first
609
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.269
time? Yep, so he had
his first match back. It was on
610
00:40:08.349 --> 00:40:13.110
a house show and it was his
first match back to kind of warm them
611
00:40:13.150 --> 00:40:16.829
up before he came back. And
Man, that place came on glued when
612
00:40:16.869 --> 00:40:20.429
he came out too. And I'm
there. Forget, you know, this
613
00:40:20.630 --> 00:40:22.179
was a house show. Once again, Stephanie McMahon, I was right back
614
00:40:22.179 --> 00:40:27.260
near the entrance way. He spit
the water up all over US and hey,
615
00:40:27.380 --> 00:40:30.500
that was gross. As a just
that was pretty gross. But I
616
00:40:30.539 --> 00:40:34.099
remember Stephanie McMahon was sitting back right
near US and she was watching the whole
617
00:40:34.139 --> 00:40:36.889
match there at the time, and
you can see everybody was kind of glued
618
00:40:36.929 --> 00:40:39.130
to that area and it was a
really cool moment to see him come back
619
00:40:39.170 --> 00:40:43.250
and I think he went to raw
the next night, making redebut that night
620
00:40:43.369 --> 00:40:45.570
or, you know, again after. I think he was on for almost
621
00:40:45.610 --> 00:40:50.079
a year or so. Yeah,
but always on. It was New Year's
622
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.320
Eve that year that he came back. Yeah, something like the right around
623
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.960
there was. It was fun,
good it was good times in the wrestling
624
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.599
world. Richie, look at this
ad here for the Sakest Saturn Slam of
625
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.349
the week. Yeah, I got
an ad right now. Forty seconds are
626
00:41:04.710 --> 00:41:07.230
right, man. We'll pause it
there for a second. This saga Saturn.
627
00:41:07.269 --> 00:41:09.670
Did you ever have a Sega Saturn
as again? Yeah, man,
628
00:41:09.989 --> 00:41:14.829
Oh, yeah, Sago. That
was a fun game system to play back
629
00:41:14.869 --> 00:41:17.550
in the day that kids are were
no know about now. Yeah, Sega
630
00:41:17.619 --> 00:41:22.579
Saturn. You got the Sega Genesis? Yes, I remember. My favorite
631
00:41:22.579 --> 00:41:27.539
game was either sonic the Hedgehog or
I would play Joe Montana's talking football.
632
00:41:28.260 --> 00:41:31.099
Yep, there was that. I
I love the the toy story and the
633
00:41:31.219 --> 00:41:36.610
lion king and Aladdin Games. Boy, once again, the good old days.
634
00:41:36.650 --> 00:41:39.730
Right, Shit, man. And
then you haven't the American. Oh
635
00:41:39.849 --> 00:41:43.730
my God, I do have a
couple of them. You still have sing?
636
00:41:43.849 --> 00:41:46.480
Oh Yeah, do they want Oh
yeah, Oh yeah, I got
637
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.920
my Nintendo sixty four. I got
all going to be worth some money.
638
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.159
Yeah, yeah, I got them
all out in my living room. But
639
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:59.400
you know, we had the American
gladiators. That was a good game,
640
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:04.710
absolutely. Man. WHO's your favorite
American gladiator? I don't have one.
641
00:42:04.750 --> 00:42:07.150
I don't know. I don't even
remember their names, to be honest with
642
00:42:07.269 --> 00:42:10.150
Naturo was my dude. Man,
that was such that was such a forgetful
643
00:42:12.869 --> 00:42:15.699
I just you know, the American
gladiers was a fucking joke. I'd love
644
00:42:15.820 --> 00:42:20.699
it. Mike Adam Lee was one
of the host with Larry Zonka. Do
645
00:42:20.780 --> 00:42:28.340
you remember during WCW's later years they
had kind of can't even remember what the
646
00:42:28.420 --> 00:42:31.730
show was causing, as pyramid or
something like that, and they actually had
647
00:42:31.769 --> 00:42:36.090
the characters from that show come on. It was like an American glad hear
648
00:42:36.130 --> 00:42:38.889
show. Do you remember that?
I don't actually, Dude, I'm gonna
649
00:42:38.889 --> 00:42:43.449
have to. We're gonna have to
go through here and show when that one
650
00:42:43.530 --> 00:42:47.039
that actually took place, because it
was it was definitely a funny time for
651
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.079
WCW. And what was the show
called? I can't remember. I don't
652
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.599
know if it was pyramid or or
what, but it was. It was
653
00:42:54.719 --> 00:43:00.349
exactly like American gladiators, but they
had like wrestling gimmicks as these characters.
654
00:43:00.750 --> 00:43:04.429
What the fuck? Yeah, if
anybody knows the name of this stuff,
655
00:43:04.429 --> 00:43:07.710
I'd love to see that. It
was it was like WCW's later years.
656
00:43:07.989 --> 00:43:09.829
That it happens. Oh Man,
I'd love to see this. Anybody knows
657
00:43:09.869 --> 00:43:13.539
the name for it or could find
like to this and send it on over?
658
00:43:13.940 --> 00:43:16.539
Yep, I remember this black dude
had like a white, half white
659
00:43:16.619 --> 00:43:21.500
painted face and like, I'll look
it up tonight when we get off the
660
00:43:21.539 --> 00:43:23.860
show, and I'll text it to
you. Yeah, I got to check
661
00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:28.010
this shit out because I don't know. Is that lets Luger and the ultimate
662
00:43:28.090 --> 00:43:34.210
warrior costume? Yeah, what is
that? Why is he wearing a hat?
663
00:43:34.489 --> 00:43:37.769
Oh, no, okay, so
here's the backstory to this. He's
664
00:43:37.849 --> 00:43:42.880
wearing a hat right now. Do
you see that? Yeah, why hasn't?
665
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.559
Have you ever seen the warrior where
a hat? No, so the
666
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.960
warrior did not want to take this
shot that he's going to that's going to
667
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.920
happen here. He does not want
to take the shot with the class to
668
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:58.150
the head. So he pitched holy
hell about doing this spot with Jerry,
669
00:43:58.150 --> 00:44:01.190
the King Lawler, and he ended
up going into business for himself and wearing
670
00:44:01.230 --> 00:44:04.949
this hat out there so when he
got when he gets nailed here in a
671
00:44:05.030 --> 00:44:09.260
minute, that he doesn't get busted
open in any way. So, yeah,
672
00:44:09.699 --> 00:44:13.340
you never seen the warrior where a
hat, but he's going to rock
673
00:44:13.380 --> 00:44:15.139
it out here for sure. Yea, all of a sudden. Yeah,
674
00:44:16.539 --> 00:44:20.420
look at these in all black face
pain to that's kind of different for him,
675
00:44:20.460 --> 00:44:22.300
right. That is very different.
I don't think I've ever seen him
676
00:44:22.300 --> 00:44:28.130
in all black face paint like that
something. Yeah, I don't even know
677
00:44:28.210 --> 00:44:30.690
what his hat is, what the
logo is on there. God, he
678
00:44:30.809 --> 00:44:37.010
looks jacked up, like he's on
something. He looks like he's he knows
679
00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:38.559
what's about to come and he doesn't
want to be in this stupid gimmick.
680
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:45.440
I think he thinks this is beneath
him. Yeah, with the stories about
681
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:47.760
that, people told through the ears
about working with him, is something in
682
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.789
something that you can probably talk for
days about, absolutely craziness of working with
683
00:44:52.949 --> 00:44:55.829
this guy. Yeah, I love
him, don't get me wrong. I
684
00:44:55.869 --> 00:45:00.949
love the character, but he was
a fucking lunatic. Yeah, you know,
685
00:45:01.070 --> 00:45:05.869
watching his later videos when he gotten
fused with like Kevin Nash and Shit
686
00:45:05.989 --> 00:45:09.820
like that, it was like,
Jesus, dude, like fucking wrong with
687
00:45:09.940 --> 00:45:15.820
you? Yeah, there's there's a
lot wrong with him. He just he's
688
00:45:15.860 --> 00:45:17.139
in his own world, this guy. You could just see it. He's
689
00:45:17.139 --> 00:45:21.809
in his own world. He thinks
he's the shit he does and he thinks
690
00:45:21.849 --> 00:45:23.769
he can get away with anything.
He thinks the world revolves around him.
691
00:45:24.050 --> 00:45:27.809
You know, he was the Shit, don't get me wrong, like ultimate
692
00:45:27.929 --> 00:45:30.929
work, was the shipped. He
was not the whole shit. He was
693
00:45:30.010 --> 00:45:34.050
not the whole company. He wasn't
as big as he thought he was.
694
00:45:34.090 --> 00:45:37.119
Yeah, that's the problem with a
lot of wrestlers is they start believing the
695
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:43.719
height. Now, recent let's talk
a modern thing here for a second while
696
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.960
this is going on. Johnny Gargano
just is betten on himself and ended up
697
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:51.070
leaving the next what do you think
about Johnny Gargano? You think he's going
698
00:45:51.110 --> 00:45:53.190
to go to a w you think
he's a big signing if they get him.
699
00:45:53.230 --> 00:45:55.909
What's your what's your opinion on it? I've never been a fan of
700
00:45:55.989 --> 00:45:59.750
Gargun on, to be honest with
you. I think he's a good in
701
00:45:59.829 --> 00:46:04.699
ring worker. I think his character
your shit. I don't think there's any
702
00:46:04.739 --> 00:46:09.019
basis to it at all and if
he goes over to AW's getting get lost
703
00:46:09.059 --> 00:46:15.780
in the shuffle because there's too many
of characters like him. Good points,
704
00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:17.849
for sure. It's a it's a
tough time, I think, for people
705
00:46:17.849 --> 00:46:21.650
out there now, the people that
have been released and the people that are
706
00:46:21.650 --> 00:46:24.130
out there. Can I brank can
I blame him for not wanting to go
707
00:46:24.250 --> 00:46:27.889
to the main roster? Absolutely not. I mean, look with it,
708
00:46:28.010 --> 00:46:34.159
done with everybody else. Yeah,
it's a tough time for I think because
709
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.800
there's it's such an overset. You
know, wrestling is so oversaturated week after
710
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.719
week, but there's only two big
places you can really go and make money.
711
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:45.920
Yeah, the impact something, but
how many spots does aw have to
712
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.269
sign big, you know, big
name talent and pay all the money like?
713
00:46:50.389 --> 00:46:52.750
Like I said, he's just like
another diamond, doesn't guy? He's
714
00:46:52.750 --> 00:46:55.469
like a diamond dozen over there.
He's the same character, great worker,
715
00:46:55.550 --> 00:47:00.349
everybody does, the flips, the
spins, the fucking super kicks, the
716
00:47:00.460 --> 00:47:04.980
YEP. What's different from him and
an Adam Cole? What's different from him
717
00:47:05.019 --> 00:47:07.940
like any Omega, Brian Danielson,
ever, all similar styles. and nothing
718
00:47:07.980 --> 00:47:10.579
against Johnny Gargan, who's a great
worker. I got nothing but respect for
719
00:47:10.619 --> 00:47:15.809
him, but I just don't know
if it would pay off been in any
720
00:47:15.849 --> 00:47:19.329
big way for the right right.
I hope it works out for him,
721
00:47:19.369 --> 00:47:22.530
I really do, but hundred percent
it's a tough time in the wrestling business.
722
00:47:22.570 --> 00:47:25.449
I think right now with ring them
on are closing down and boom,
723
00:47:27.250 --> 00:47:32.719
man, you got fucking nailed with
that one cheese. Look at that.
724
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:39.440
Oh, you didn't even know cells
it. He didn't even take the glass
725
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.480
on the fucking head. No,
he took the back of the frame.
726
00:47:44.389 --> 00:47:47.550
See, he didn't even nail them
with the glass, eat them with the
727
00:47:47.590 --> 00:47:52.670
back of the frame. Yeah,
I gotta add here about nine seconds here.
728
00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:59.300
Sure, let me know when you're
good and fast. For three,
729
00:47:59.900 --> 00:48:07.659
two ones or all right, all
right, they're playing up something with Davy
730
00:48:07.699 --> 00:48:12.739
boy and Seawan here, contempt JE
twenty three. The battle is raging on.
731
00:48:12.820 --> 00:48:19.610
It looks like King of the ring. They always had really good feuds
732
00:48:19.610 --> 00:48:22.090
him and Shawn Michael's. To me
they always have really good matches. Yeah,
733
00:48:22.090 --> 00:48:25.809
they did. You know, I'm
really surprised that Davey Boyd never got
734
00:48:25.849 --> 00:48:29.400
to get the the title or carry
it. To be honest with you,
735
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.280
I definitely think he should open at
one point. Am I shoot it at
736
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:36.119
one point? Absolutely there. There
was no reason for him not to.
737
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:44.110
Well, here he comes out now
he's taken on the undertaker is. That
738
00:48:44.190 --> 00:48:47.670
would show him, because I'm I'm
showing the warrior thing. We're your think
739
00:48:47.710 --> 00:48:55.619
just ended here. What's your time
stamp at Twe Twenty eight. All right,
740
00:48:55.699 --> 00:49:00.500
we're right at the same spot.
Dave's coming out now. Now he's
741
00:49:00.500 --> 00:49:07.179
got his wife Diana with him.
Did you manager Jim Cornett? Beware of
742
00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:12.130
dog in Your House, Buddy?
Now, do you think Jim Cortnett's a
743
00:49:12.170 --> 00:49:15.969
bigger ASSHOLES EVERYBODY MAKES MOUTH TO BE? I think he's playing. I think
744
00:49:15.969 --> 00:49:20.130
he plays a gimmick up and think
he's smart. That's how he's still making
745
00:49:20.170 --> 00:49:22.449
a lot of money nowadays. I
do. I think he's a likable guy
746
00:49:22.610 --> 00:49:27.920
with the way things that he says
to me. No, but I think
747
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.280
maybe a little bit of it's true, but I think a lot of it
748
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.880
is played up for a character.
Sure, what about you? Same thing.
749
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.510
I don't think he's a racist.
Like when that situation happened in Pat
750
00:49:39.590 --> 00:49:45.869
Nwa power. I don't think he's
a racist. I think people expect him
751
00:49:45.030 --> 00:49:49.710
to say certain things and he panders
to his audience to continue to make that
752
00:49:49.829 --> 00:49:52.389
money and he gives them what they
want. They want to hear these hate
753
00:49:52.429 --> 00:49:55.980
filled speeches that he gives where he's
cussing everybody out and just saying mean and
754
00:49:57.019 --> 00:50:00.780
awful Shit, Oror he's picking on
certain things. He's a really bright mind.
755
00:50:00.820 --> 00:50:04.860
When you listen to him, he's
what a talker he is to I
756
00:50:04.940 --> 00:50:08.329
mean he's as eloquent as they come. They guys phenomen I've never cracked up
757
00:50:08.409 --> 00:50:13.010
more in a shoot interview than a
Jim Cornette one. Dude, he's hilarious.
758
00:50:13.210 --> 00:50:15.570
I took you too windy's, you
fat fucking this is how you treat
759
00:50:15.610 --> 00:50:19.969
me. Did you ever see the
Wendy's video when he flipped out onto people
760
00:50:19.969 --> 00:50:24.480
from smoke? That shit is his
legendary or you fucking boots, I ared
761
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:29.159
my food an hour ago. We
want a Goddamn food. The best is
762
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.480
when you get him going on Vince
Rousseau and he just starts fucking man log
763
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:36.989
piling on him. He hates him. Whoop, he hates him. We
764
00:50:37.110 --> 00:50:40.670
think they ever resolve their issues.
Never, never, never happening. They'RE
765
00:50:40.670 --> 00:50:44.510
gonna THEY'RE gonna die that way.
Yeah, and you know what, I
766
00:50:44.510 --> 00:50:46.230
don't put that on. Russo roussas
tried to broke her that through the years.
767
00:50:46.269 --> 00:50:49.710
I put that on think it really
was trying to broker it, though.
768
00:50:49.829 --> 00:50:52.179
I think he does. I really
do. Any think he does.
769
00:50:52.300 --> 00:50:53.699
I used to listen to him back
in you know, for a while,
770
00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:58.059
and I think, man, I
got to be fair, I think he
771
00:50:58.099 --> 00:51:00.380
did mean what he said, but
Cornet shure took it over the top more
772
00:51:00.420 --> 00:51:04.530
than a few times. Nice.
It's pretty fucking funny, though, with
773
00:51:04.610 --> 00:51:07.530
some of the stuff that he says. I'll tell you, bro like he
774
00:51:07.650 --> 00:51:14.449
calls him shit staying. If there's
ever a murder that happens and fucking wrestling,
775
00:51:14.489 --> 00:51:16.170
it's going to be that. I
might be if they if you ever
776
00:51:16.210 --> 00:51:20.679
put them at a convention or something, yeah, that's going to be good's
777
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.880
gotta Mistass and you've ever made you're
going to see cornette loading up at Wendy's,
778
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.880
piling down those triples, those triple
stacks there to get some energy and
779
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:30.119
any when he knows he's going to
see him. He's just going to Bobby
780
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:35.309
Bouche him. There's gonna be so
many fucking Oh my God, so many
781
00:51:35.349 --> 00:51:37.630
lawsuits, so many. It's just
who wins into in a real fight?
782
00:51:37.670 --> 00:51:42.789
Jim Cornette or Vince Russo? Who
Got Jim Cornette all day? You think
783
00:51:42.829 --> 00:51:46.070
so? He's got hatred in him
for that man. The just fucking doesn't
784
00:51:46.139 --> 00:51:51.340
die. Dude. That's a that's
a powerful motivator right there. Boy,
785
00:51:51.739 --> 00:51:54.019
when he goes off on Joey Janella
to and Nick Gage, I think those
786
00:51:54.019 --> 00:52:00.260
are even better. You think so? They're funny. He fucking hates Joey
787
00:52:00.380 --> 00:52:01.809
that. He's never said that he
wants to fucking kill them, though.
788
00:52:01.929 --> 00:52:07.889
You know I said so. That's
not too far behind now. Pretty he's
789
00:52:07.929 --> 00:52:09.650
been pretty close on that a few
times, basically saying stuff like that.
790
00:52:12.289 --> 00:52:15.239
He hates them without passion, hates
sorrow. Can you blame him? I
791
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.519
mean, they're making a mockery of
the business he's made money in for the
792
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:23.519
past however many years. He's one
of the last few guys that really still
793
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:28.519
protects KFEB, even though, you
know, of course, nobody stands to
794
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:32.429
believe that wrestling is real anymore.
But he is old school through and through,
795
00:52:32.550 --> 00:52:36.710
and when he sees them not protecting
the business and his mind, he
796
00:52:36.949 --> 00:52:40.389
absolutely just a viscerates those people for
it. Yeah, is it old school
797
00:52:40.389 --> 00:52:45.579
thinking? Yes, but this is
guy, a guy that's given his life
798
00:52:45.579 --> 00:52:49.059
to this business and loves it,
because I think a lot of the reason
799
00:52:49.139 --> 00:52:52.139
why wrestlings dead right now is because
they gave up that old school way.
800
00:52:52.139 --> 00:52:55.980
I think sure, it's great points
right there. It's very valid arguments for
801
00:52:57.059 --> 00:53:00.889
that many ways. Yeah, and
you know, people see somebody and the
802
00:53:01.329 --> 00:53:05.210
one true person out there now that
stays in character all the time, and
803
00:53:05.289 --> 00:53:07.010
you know who it is, and
I do too, is I'm JF.
804
00:53:07.570 --> 00:53:10.889
Yep, the guy doesn't break kfee
or anything. He staying the exact way
805
00:53:12.050 --> 00:53:15.159
that he portrays on TV. And
do I think mjf is like that in
806
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.840
real life? No, but no, he plays that gimmick up no matter
807
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.559
where he goes. I love watching
when people take videos of him at autograph
808
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:28.630
signings. Yeah, he's just gone
as he's gone as far as to make
809
00:53:28.710 --> 00:53:34.110
fun of a handicap child like that's
when you're really protecting the gimmick. Right
810
00:53:34.110 --> 00:53:38.150
there, like he'sy says to the
Guy, to the kid in the wheel
811
00:53:38.150 --> 00:53:40.110
chairs, like, if you want
a picture with me, you got to
812
00:53:40.110 --> 00:53:45.059
stand up and come over here,
like how could you do my God,
813
00:53:45.500 --> 00:53:50.019
I know, and how ugging terrible. Think if somebody else did it,
814
00:53:50.099 --> 00:53:52.099
though, they would eat him up, but for whatever reason they let this
815
00:53:52.219 --> 00:53:55.010
guy just go with it. Nobody
says shit to him. Well, because
816
00:53:55.010 --> 00:53:59.650
they know it's him. I mean
it's just it's like Roddy Piper, like,
817
00:53:59.929 --> 00:54:01.610
you know he'd go in there and
do the Mexicans hat dance in front
818
00:54:01.650 --> 00:54:07.090
of a full crowd in Mexico and
and you know all these people are wanting
819
00:54:07.130 --> 00:54:08.610
to stab him and shit and he's
like well, I'm doing my job.
820
00:54:08.809 --> 00:54:13.679
You know, Jeff's here. Until
any story when he was down in Mexico.
821
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:15.079
I heard it on his podcast,
I think from a week or two
822
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:19.639
ago and from I think it was
the promoter down where he went with maybe
823
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.679
he was like maybe, like AAA, and I think Conan was the promoter.
824
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.510
I could be wrong, but I
believe he said it was Conan and
825
00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:30.989
they told him to throw Tom are
the tortilla shells out when he came out
826
00:54:30.989 --> 00:54:34.070
at the crowd and he's like Na, I'm not going to do that,
827
00:54:34.349 --> 00:54:36.909
and he's like and they're like no, you want to get big heat,
828
00:54:36.989 --> 00:54:38.300
this is how you do it.
To these people, go they'll go nuts.
829
00:54:38.860 --> 00:54:42.179
And he ended up again. I'm
sure they will. Yeah, he
830
00:54:42.179 --> 00:54:45.380
ended up doing it and throwing Tortilla
shells out of I'm in doing it,
831
00:54:45.860 --> 00:54:52.300
and they just went livid on him, just livid. I'm sure they wanted
832
00:54:52.300 --> 00:54:55.730
to stab his all easily. Like
you're not going to see people doing that
833
00:54:55.769 --> 00:55:01.769
much anymore. No, today's generation, that shit ain't gonna happen. It's
834
00:55:01.809 --> 00:55:07.559
amazing to think that. What you
gotta Admire mjf though. Yeah, he's
835
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:09.440
stick, got the cone is go
do it. You know, have you
836
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.920
ever heard him apologize for anything he's
ever said and done? Nope, no
837
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.400
person, and I don't think they'd
make him. I love the shit that
838
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:21.239
he did with DDP and his daughter
and all that. It was fucking classic
839
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:25.030
noon. He's just good with everything
he does, a hundred percent. Honestly,
840
00:55:25.150 --> 00:55:28.670
I was soelfish because I wanted to
see DDP back in the ring.
841
00:55:28.869 --> 00:55:32.989
So love seeing DDP out there any
time, and DDP's such a legend of
842
00:55:34.070 --> 00:55:37.659
the business. Hundred Jesus. Look
at the undertaker pick up bulldog like he's
843
00:55:37.739 --> 00:55:43.980
nothing. Yeah, looking size difference, are you? I know. And
844
00:55:44.139 --> 00:55:46.260
bull dog is not a t not
here, man. No, he's US
845
00:55:46.539 --> 00:55:50.929
come up like that like he's nothing. What do you think? Two hundred
846
00:55:50.929 --> 00:55:54.650
and ten pounds maybe for bulldog?
Yeah, I bet you bulldogs pushing close
847
00:55:54.690 --> 00:55:58.809
to three hundred right there and muscle. Think so. Yeah, two hundred
848
00:55:58.849 --> 00:56:00.690
seventy five, three hundred, I
would say now. I'm let me look
849
00:56:00.690 --> 00:56:07.360
at him here now. Probably not
three hundred to sixty two seventy five read.
850
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.000
Yeah, maybe two fifty, two
hundred and sixty. I bet you
851
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:14.079
in his Wembley days, like when
he when he won the title and ninety
852
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:15.840
two the ICEE title, I bet
you he was close to two hundred and
853
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:19.510
ninety three hundred right around there.
That was the beast shape I think he
854
00:56:19.590 --> 00:56:22.789
was ever in. Yeah, he
was. He was going up and down
855
00:56:22.829 --> 00:56:25.750
a little bit in his weight at
some points. Lay At this point of
856
00:56:25.789 --> 00:56:30.550
his career and then when he went
over to WCW after the screwjob incident,
857
00:56:31.110 --> 00:56:37.139
he just looked like absolute dog shit
him and nightheart. Oh they were.
858
00:56:37.340 --> 00:56:40.059
It was terrible to see, you
know, it was got awfully just quick
859
00:56:40.139 --> 00:56:45.500
give him a fuck. Yeah,
they got he got sober and or maybe
860
00:56:45.539 --> 00:56:47.210
he was drinking at the time.
I don't remember, but I know he
861
00:56:47.289 --> 00:56:52.690
was battling with substances and was bouncing
back and forth between being sober and not
862
00:56:52.849 --> 00:56:55.889
sober, off of alcohol and drugs, and I'm sure it bloated him up
863
00:56:55.929 --> 00:56:59.929
or, if he was off of
it, that he was maybe not working
864
00:56:59.969 --> 00:57:04.199
out as much, eating not taking
care of himself, because he just didn't
865
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.960
look like that as you got down
there, like Oh yeah, how could
866
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:13.239
you not look at him walk the
top rope? I would have fucking old
867
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:17.070
school. Yeah, when he does
old school, it's it's a hell of
868
00:57:17.110 --> 00:57:21.349
a site to see a six foot
ten guy walking the walk in the ropes
869
00:57:21.429 --> 00:57:24.469
like it's absolutely fucking nothing. That's
a hell of move right there. Hmmm,
870
00:57:25.670 --> 00:57:29.190
one of my favorite on the outside
there. Yeah, one of my
871
00:57:29.269 --> 00:57:35.179
favorite moves in the undertaker's repertoire old
school. Yep, I love it.
872
00:57:35.739 --> 00:57:37.460
Yeah, mine always be as choke
slam. I thought you did the best
873
00:57:37.460 --> 00:57:40.420
joke slam of all time. He
does a great choke slam and then you
874
00:57:40.500 --> 00:57:45.010
can't deny the tombstone being pretty awesome
too. Tombstones great, but you know,
875
00:57:46.289 --> 00:57:50.570
the choke slam a lot of people
do it and you just like it's
876
00:57:50.650 --> 00:57:53.610
saturated now, but there'll never be
a choke slam like the undertakers. I
877
00:57:54.329 --> 00:58:00.320
liked at points the American Badass type
Gimmick, but it never really got way
878
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:01.840
over with me. Like I get
why they did it at the time,
879
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:06.519
but to me I always like the
undertaker more at the dead man type character.
880
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:14.389
Sure interesting to see Diana that how
they've incorporated her and at the storylines
881
00:58:14.429 --> 00:58:19.110
over the last couple weeks. Sure
she was a very beautiful woman to she
882
00:58:19.150 --> 00:58:27.380
could have been a great valet if
they went she was. Absolutely we're gonna
883
00:58:27.380 --> 00:58:30.860
have cut there. Oh Man,
he always did this weird stop whenever he
884
00:58:30.980 --> 00:58:36.340
throw kicked. You know that?
Yeah, I could see that. Its
885
00:58:36.380 --> 00:58:38.780
head butt to where. Look how
high he lifts his damn leg when he's
886
00:58:38.820 --> 00:58:44.369
coming down. Is he going to
pick him up and hold him up here
887
00:58:44.449 --> 00:58:49.329
like he does? He's definitely got
to be strong enough for this. Yeah,
888
00:58:49.369 --> 00:58:54.369
a hundred percent. Wow, man
broke. You know, I'm undertaker's
889
00:58:54.409 --> 00:58:58.239
about three hundred and thirty. Here
I'M gonna say he's about three thirty,
890
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:02.599
three forty. Yeah, and Davey
picks them up like he's nothing. I
891
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:07.760
love it when undertaker rises like that. He's gonna Whoop his ass here.
892
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:15.070
Yes, he is now. I
forget you. Did you like this outfit
893
00:59:15.150 --> 00:59:16.349
of the undertaker that he kind of
were at this time? Is this one
894
00:59:16.389 --> 00:59:20.590
of your ones that you dig on
him or no? No, I really
895
00:59:20.630 --> 00:59:23.269
didn't. I thought the the gray
and black one. If we're talking about
896
00:59:23.269 --> 00:59:28.780
this particular tire, I like the
Grhand bike one myself. The purple one
897
00:59:28.940 --> 00:59:31.900
was kind of just just because the
shade of purple they picked. But,
898
00:59:32.900 --> 00:59:38.210
like I said, my favorite undertaker
of all time probably King of the ring
899
00:59:39.050 --> 00:59:43.530
when he faced mankind. That was
probably my favorite sire that you ever wore.
900
00:59:44.809 --> 00:59:46.650
Well, he evolved that character so
many times for the years and the
901
00:59:46.690 --> 00:59:50.289
different looks and everything, and it's
always kind of neat to see that with
902
00:59:50.369 --> 00:59:53.519
him, and he always found a
way to reinvent himself. Right. What
903
00:59:53.760 --> 01:00:00.559
was your least favorite version of the
undertaker? American Badass, that's to me.
904
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:05.599
Mine was the Ministry of Darkness because
it was so awkward. They didn't
905
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:07.949
really you could tell with the undertaker
at that time they didn't really have a
906
01:00:08.030 --> 01:00:13.230
solid plan. He was kind of
an afterthought. I think is the best.
907
01:00:13.269 --> 01:00:14.909
It is the best way to kind
of look because they had so much
908
01:00:14.949 --> 01:00:17.630
other stuff kind of going on right, like yeah, yeah, way,
909
01:00:19.469 --> 01:00:23.780
and he had the rocky and mcfoley
cane and had become arguably a bigger superstar
910
01:00:23.980 --> 01:00:29.300
at that time. Big Show would
just come in. I mean it dude,
911
01:00:30.139 --> 01:00:31.539
the undertaker just got lost in the
shoffle, I think, and it
912
01:00:31.619 --> 01:00:36.170
was a good time for him because
you got to take off and kind of
913
01:00:36.170 --> 01:00:40.530
heals some injuries that have been bothering
him the corporate ministry. I liked it,
914
01:00:40.730 --> 01:00:45.610
but what they did wrong to me
was they watered it down so fast,
915
01:00:45.650 --> 01:00:47.210
kind of like the what the Nwo
did at you know, at points
916
01:00:47.250 --> 01:00:51.199
when they had too many members of
it people, it just didn't I would
917
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:54.599
say they did it worse than the
end wo even could be. I can't
918
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.960
remember all the people that were in
it at some point because, you know,
919
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:06.670
you had you had Yangrill, you
had the brood, you had the
920
01:01:06.789 --> 01:01:09.630
accoltes, you had midian. Yeah, I was in it at one point.
921
01:01:09.630 --> 01:01:14.349
Two right, it had shamrock,
you had test, you had triple
922
01:01:14.469 --> 01:01:17.659
h yeah, awest man, ass
man, you had Shane McMahon, the
923
01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:22.619
rock at one point. I mean
you couldn't keep track of who the fuck
924
01:01:22.739 --> 01:01:27.219
was who. That's a lot of
fucking people to throw in it. One
925
01:01:27.420 --> 01:01:30.139
faction right. Well, not to
mention, like, you know, the
926
01:01:30.219 --> 01:01:35.170
undertaker did this whole speel when he
first started it of I'm going to take
927
01:01:35.250 --> 01:01:37.969
over the WWF and this is how
I'm going to do it, and then
928
01:01:38.170 --> 01:01:44.730
you just join the corporate you just
join the corporation. It's like it didn't
929
01:01:44.769 --> 01:01:47.360
make any sense to me at all. You know, I liked his outfit
930
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:50.519
that he would kind of come out
with there, though, for the Corporate
931
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.239
Ministry. I thought that was some
pretty cool. His get up was pretty
932
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.800
cool. I always enjoyed that.
were talking about the robe. Yeah,
933
01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:01.030
the robe and stuff. It just
how he'd kind of he had more of
934
01:02:01.110 --> 01:02:04.989
a punk emo type look to that
he would kind of portray with it.
935
01:02:05.110 --> 01:02:07.750
I think you know where you'd see
him putting more makeup on. That was
936
01:02:07.829 --> 01:02:12.710
really obvious with his makeup and it
was just it was different than what what
937
01:02:12.869 --> 01:02:16.460
we were used to with him when
a long the Longass fingernails and yeah,
938
01:02:16.460 --> 01:02:19.980
I didn't like that part of it, though. I thought that was kind
939
01:02:19.980 --> 01:02:23.219
of fucking weird. Yeah, so
what do you? How do you feel
940
01:02:23.260 --> 01:02:30.250
about the the MIDIAN sacrifice ceremony.
I thought it was kind of stupid,
941
01:02:30.289 --> 01:02:31.969
to be honest with you. Pretty
Cheesy, right. Yeah, I do,
942
01:02:32.489 --> 01:02:36.650
even with the stuff with like crucifying
people and putting him on the cross
943
01:02:36.650 --> 01:02:39.889
as a Christian, like I just
don't like it. Man. I guess
944
01:02:39.929 --> 01:02:44.320
it was. I was okay with
it for this the Steve Austin part because
945
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:47.079
it just it added something to there, you know. And and you got
946
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:51.719
to admit the undertaker he wasn't saved
at the time. He fully admits that
947
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:55.000
and he comes out now he's consure
to save Christian born again. It was
948
01:02:55.159 --> 01:03:00.110
it was a gimmick that Vince mcman
pitched and, you know, undertake a
949
01:03:00.150 --> 01:03:02.829
ran with it and created what it
was for what it was and made it
950
01:03:02.909 --> 01:03:07.869
one of the most popular gimmicks of
all time. You know, we've talked
951
01:03:07.909 --> 01:03:15.139
about to nauseum the the disconnect Vince
mcmahan had with characters like that. I
952
01:03:15.179 --> 01:03:17.340
mean, you look at Damn Severn. He was trying to get him Dix,
953
01:03:17.980 --> 01:03:20.940
he's trying to get him to put
six, six, six on his
954
01:03:21.019 --> 01:03:28.489
forehead. I mean a UFC legitimate
badass. You know, it's a head
955
01:03:28.530 --> 01:03:31.530
scratcher, it's a head scratcher.
For Fuck's sakes, you got to wander,
956
01:03:31.570 --> 01:03:34.889
man. You're like, what would
what would go through your mind if
957
01:03:34.929 --> 01:03:36.969
you're going to blow that right there. You got it. Like I said,
958
01:03:37.210 --> 01:03:38.570
a legit Badass in you and you're
going to put six, six,
959
01:03:38.650 --> 01:03:43.960
six on his forehead and the guys
telling you that he's got religious beliefs that
960
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:46.079
are that are contrary to that,
you're trying to force them to do it.
961
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:50.519
Yeah, it was just, you
know, that's kind of Guy Vince
962
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:53.000
mentman is. I guess I don't
know. I'm just not big into those
963
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:57.909
types of things, with crucifying people
and just doing that shit, like it's
964
01:03:57.949 --> 01:04:00.030
just not for me. It's like
one of the things. I get it.
965
01:04:00.150 --> 01:04:02.389
I'm not like mad about it.
I want want to cancel anybody for
966
01:04:02.550 --> 01:04:05.150
me or anything. It's just not
my cup of tea, you know.
967
01:04:05.670 --> 01:04:10.300
It's just there's the time in a
place, but everything you and I can't
968
01:04:10.380 --> 01:04:14.019
argue that that. That was probably
the most one of the most iconic moments
969
01:04:14.099 --> 01:04:15.940
in the attitude or history. It
was sure as hell memorable, wasn't it
970
01:04:16.219 --> 01:04:18.820
awesome? Got Thrown up on that
thing and we were all just like what
971
01:04:19.059 --> 01:04:25.090
the fuck is twenty somebody years later
and we're still talking about it. Yeah,
972
01:04:25.289 --> 01:04:28.730
absolute obviously it was pretty fucking memorable. Right. They did something right,
973
01:04:28.809 --> 01:04:30.889
for sure. They did something right. Whether it was good, bad
974
01:04:30.929 --> 01:04:32.969
or in different the way you look
at it, they did it right.
975
01:04:33.130 --> 01:04:36.690
And Hey, we don't have to
like it for it to be a memorable
976
01:04:36.730 --> 01:04:40.840
moment. And it's like when he
was trying to you remember when he was
977
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:45.320
trying to embalm Austin in the on
the hard cold slab there? I don't
978
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.639
remember that. Actually, he don't
remember? Oh Man, no, I
979
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:53.789
don't remember that. I remember as
a kid being scared shitless when taker was
980
01:04:53.829 --> 01:04:57.309
like talking and tongues and Shit,
he's getting ready to Stab Boston. I
981
01:04:58.670 --> 01:05:01.389
was more of a see you know. The thing was I watched wwf and
982
01:05:01.510 --> 01:05:05.309
I watched and I would flip back
and forth, but most of the time,
983
01:05:05.349 --> 01:05:10.500
up until the end of WCW,
I was always rooting for WCW and
984
01:05:10.539 --> 01:05:13.579
I grew up a WWF guy.
I just love you. Were also a
985
01:05:13.659 --> 01:05:15.420
whole Cogan guy. Oh, wherever
hulk was that, I was going to
986
01:05:15.460 --> 01:05:20.489
be. And if I my number
two at that time was always sting yea,
987
01:05:20.570 --> 01:05:25.329
and when sting went dark on the
crow. I was hooked. I
988
01:05:25.769 --> 01:05:29.130
love it. Every week when sting
would come down. What was he going
989
01:05:29.210 --> 01:05:31.849
to do? You know, is
he here for the Nwo? Is he
990
01:05:31.929 --> 01:05:36.920
going to save WCW? Like that
had me hooked and yeah, I'm going
991
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.360
to watch a show every week.
At that point in time for me,
992
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.719
I was paying way more attention to
WCW, sure, but I would watch
993
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:46.199
and put back and forth. Not
Not that I wouldn't. I knew what
994
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:50.389
was going on. I just can't
remember all the little little intricacies of it
995
01:05:50.510 --> 01:05:55.510
just because I was glued to WCW. That's where it was. I was
996
01:05:55.590 --> 01:05:59.269
there for it. Yep, I
was a stone called guy through and through.
997
01:06:00.909 --> 01:06:04.619
Love Scott Hall, thought, thought
the World Scott Hall, and you
998
01:06:04.659 --> 01:06:08.219
don't know, I was one of
the ones that flip back and forth because
999
01:06:08.219 --> 01:06:14.659
I saw something, money product that
I absolutely love. So WCW lost me
1000
01:06:15.219 --> 01:06:18.969
for good, you know, probably
mid two thousand and stuff. If it's
1001
01:06:18.969 --> 01:06:23.130
just it was so stupid and water
down at that point. They weren't even
1002
01:06:23.130 --> 01:06:26.210
crazy. Thing was I was even
watching it then and was like man,
1003
01:06:26.250 --> 01:06:29.769
I'm going to I'm going to ride
this out. You know, you never
1004
01:06:29.809 --> 01:06:32.400
would have thought that they could have
completely fucked that company up in such a
1005
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:36.960
short period of time. No,
and then when they did, you know,
1006
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.760
I fully expected WWe to capitalize on
a lot of their talent and I
1007
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:46.630
was just like, man, how
do you let guys like Goldberg, like
1008
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Sting Ogan, Nash Hall, all
these it would have been the most incredible
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01:06:54.829 --> 01:07:00.789
time and wrestling history had they brought
him in right at that moment. DDP.
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01:07:00.230 --> 01:07:05.500
The way they used him was just
disgusting. One of the biggest misses
1011
01:07:05.579 --> 01:07:09.500
of that invasion angle was how they
handled it. It was the biggest.
1012
01:07:09.860 --> 01:07:12.739
It was the biggest compared to the
churches the came out. It was the
1013
01:07:12.820 --> 01:07:16.250
biggest miss. It always should have
been the people's Champ DPE of the beast,
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01:07:16.809 --> 01:07:20.769
of the rocky. Why would you
do that? Stalker Shit, yeah,
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01:07:20.849 --> 01:07:25.289
but put put the rock over even
like you know, put the rock
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01:07:25.369 --> 01:07:27.650
over you. Who Cares? But
do it that way. You know,
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01:07:28.570 --> 01:07:31.400
undertaker and Goldberg back in the day
would have been a fun fucking match to
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01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:36.039
see. Would have been. It
would have been a cool match. Sting
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01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:40.519
undertaker, who he's going to be, a match that I want to see.
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That will never get. That was
just just crazy matches. You could
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01:07:45.869 --> 01:07:49.630
have done. Here's mankind just held
undertaker's legs. So undertaker gets counted out.
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01:07:49.789 --> 01:07:54.389
British bulldog gets the victory here.
Now they're all beaten down. The
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01:07:54.429 --> 01:08:00.420
undertaker on the outside. Look a
man kind got a love mcfoley. Yeah,
1024
01:08:00.539 --> 01:08:04.619
me too. That was one of
my favorite shows we've ever done.
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Last week was when we did the
you know, the mankind mcfoley Bass show,
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where the Helen, the cell hell
SOS. Yeah, Oh yeah,
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with undertaker and Sean and then mankind
and undertaker. What a fucking that was
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some good wrestling last week and if
you guys like that, man, tune
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01:08:20.449 --> 01:08:23.609
into our next show. We're going
to you know, we're going to be
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doing the the helm the cell matches
would triple h involve. So I love
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Helen, the cell matches that we've
been that we've been catching that, you
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01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:34.000
know that last whine, and some
of the other ones we got coming up
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01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:39.000
here. Yep, those matches are
going to be incredible. Here is the
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mandible claw, one of the most
disgusting moves out there, though some guy
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01:08:42.390 --> 01:08:45.909
sticking his fucking fingers down your throat. It isn't. And the the leather
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01:08:46.029 --> 01:08:49.229
strap that they put over his two
fingers man. I'm like, how many
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01:08:49.390 --> 01:08:53.350
mouths was that him? Seriously,
I don't want to think about I'm a
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01:08:53.350 --> 01:08:56.819
little bit of a Germafope. So
yeah, I don't even want to think
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about that one. Well, that
wraps up this show for tonight. My
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friend. What are you think about
it? Thumbs up, thumbs down or
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thumbs in the middle? On it, it was thumbs in the middle.
1042
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You know, I think the ultimate
warrior Promo was the drizzling shits. You
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01:09:11.970 --> 01:09:15.050
know, own hearts match is pretty
pretty, pretty dry as well with Yoka
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Zona, and that was just based
off the Yoka Zona not being able to
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do much. If this was a
Monday night raw that I was tuning into,
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the only thing worth any substance would
be the undertaker verse man kind here.
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01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:32.760
Yeah, I gotta say I agree. I'm actually going to go a
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step farther here. Is I think
the show is kind of a thumbs down.
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01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:40.390
The matches. We're okay, they
weren't there. Weren't anything, you
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01:09:40.510 --> 01:09:43.909
know, great. I like the
man kind and undertaker thing at the end.
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01:09:43.949 --> 01:09:45.310
I think it's a good way to
have him get the loss and continue
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01:09:45.430 --> 01:09:48.109
on with this fute. You Go, Zoona look terrible out there. It
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01:09:48.189 --> 01:09:53.220
was sad to see. Yeah,
it was awful. Warriors Promo was fucking
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terrible. The Guy was you could
just tell didn't Jerry, the King Waller,
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is one of the great talkers of
the business to you know, he
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couldn't even get that shit over and
men, you know, the warrior had
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01:10:02.300 --> 01:10:05.380
no interest in it and it fell
flat. For that reason it was just
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stupid. Mark merrow always loved seeing
mark, but that match was skip was
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like nobody thought skip was going to
fucking win that match. anyways, it
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was just kind of just kind of
there. It wasn't a show that I
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didn't enjoy watching, but in the
same in the same way, it wasn't
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a show that was good or even
in the middle to me. So I
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01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:26.800
got to give it the thumbs down
on that one, just because I don't
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think they elevated any storylines. They're
pressing this British bulldog Shawn Michael's thing.
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Where Shawn Michaels tonight? Why aren't
we seeing their you know, get into
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01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:36.869
it with one another a hundred percent? You know, why do you leave
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01:10:36.909 --> 01:10:43.989
your main story line out right?
That's my opinion now. So absolutely well,
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we hope everybody enjoyed it tonight.
We always have fun doing this for
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you guys. We hope everybody's doing
well out there and once again will be
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having all of our normal shows coming
out. They're just going to be on
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more of a tape delay instead of, you know, instead of doing as
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many live, but we're going to
have a few here and there. The
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01:11:00.699 --> 01:11:01.979
award show, now that's going to
be a fun show we're going to have
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coming up by the end of the
year and pretty excited to welcome some new
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hall of famers and some awards and
maybe some surprises that evening. I don't
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know, it's going to be fun. It's going to be a really good
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time. So don't worry. Over
the next couple weeks we got plenty of
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01:11:17.010 --> 01:11:20.319
great stuff in store for you guys, lots of Great Watch alongs, lots
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of fun topics. So just keep
checking it out, make sure you like
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and follow the page here and if
you're listening to this on audio, make
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sure you subscribe and whatever I'll let
you're listen to for the podcasting format.
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So for the real deal he will. Mr Richard ARD and I'm John Wygland.
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We're signing off. Thanks for watching
the retrowresting the rival. Be Good,
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be safe and, as always,
we really appreciate all your support
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All right, what's happening out there? Everybuddy, welcome to come for the
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count right here on the retro wrestling
revival. I am John Wineland. Joining
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me as always, is my cohost
and tag team partner, the man himself,
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the Monday night real deal. He'll
Mr Ritchie reared. And what's going
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on, my friend? How are
you tonight? Not Much, man.
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This is my favorite time a week. We crack into the attitude chronicles and
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it I couldn't be happier to be
here tonight. And you can put that
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on a crack a dude. Oh, you can definitely put that on the
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cracker, my friend. It's going
to be a fun night tonight. So
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how's everything going for you? Doing
good? Yeah, yeah, man,
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I'm doing good. Everything's going clean
and serene for me. I'm doing awesome
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at my job and and Christmas is
around the corner. At all the gifts
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bought. Life is good right now, man. We're just we're just rejoicing
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in the birth of Jesus here in
a few weeks and and and and really
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getting to spend time of family.
So I don't think it gets much better
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than this time of year. Absolutely, man. How's it going? Mr
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Mike Keaton, good to see out
here tonightmare. So up, brother man.
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Is going good with you tonight and
everybody else out there. So you
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got all your shopping done? How
you ready for Christmas? A hundred percent.
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Amazon's a beautiful thing, baby.
You could fucking hord or anything off
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there. So to get all my
Christmas early. Man, isn't it the
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worst going to the fucking mall and
going shopping and stuff? I don't do
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it anymore, man, I refuse
to do it. People get crazy out
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there, so I just stay in
the comfort of my own home and order
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that shit online, just like everybody
should. Yea Some asshole will tackle you
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down for a hundred dollar forty inch
TV or something at Walmart. It's like,
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yeah, that's the real Christmas spirit
right there. Huh, yeah,
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yeah, I'll spend the extra cash, Bro to get that fucking forty inch
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TV delivered to the House. Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
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I try to avoid the mall,
like you know, and all that crap,
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like the plague. I like just
the holidays for going and see in
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the lights and just the you know, their bamily atmosphere, man, and
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the real purpose of it. You
know, and it's just, you know,
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it's too commercialized for me, but
nonetheless it's always, you know,
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it's always my favorite time of the
year, around the holiday. So I'm
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excited to have Christmas. I can't
believe this. Are here next week.
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It's pretty crazy. We're almost in
two thousand and twenty two. We've been
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in this pandemic for a little bit
now. I remember me and you were
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like when this whole thing first start, we were like it's gonna be a
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couple months, will probably bounce out
of this thing. Shit, man,
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this is like a normal way of
life. Now we're just sitting here like
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Jesus Christ, I was always this
thing going to end. Yeah, I
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was at my daughter's course concert last
night and I was just sitting there in
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the crowd and New York just remanded
at everything with, you know, you
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got to wear masks and stuff again, and I'm just sitting there, look
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at it. Everybody in a mask
and it's like you don't even recognize people
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anymore. You know, I know, it's it's just at life has just
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changed so dramatically over the last two
years too, for everybody, and I
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really hope we can get it back
to normal. We're here real hundred percent,
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you know. That's why we do
these shows too. We like to
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have fun, man, and if
people aren't tough times out there, we
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hope if you check it out you're
enjoying yourself. I'm one, come all,
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baby. We like to I fun
here. If you're if you're an
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old school wrestling fan, this is
the place to be. It just take
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your mind off of the bullshit of
life and all the other stuff that's going
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on out there, you know.
So we hope we can bring that to
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you now tonight. It's going to
be a fun show. We're doing our
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attitude are chronicle show where we started. We've been having a blast with this.
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What have we done? Two or
three of these already? Yes,
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and it's been incredible and scaving a
spinoff ideas on other shows and stuff like
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that. So yeah, it's amazing, a good time. You forget some
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of the angles and things that are
going on until you go back and kind
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of do these watch alongs and stuff. So that's why I love doing these
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old school watch logs because there's so
much that you can forget that what's going
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on at the time, and this
is a great time with wwe. Yeah,
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it's not the best in regards to
what they're going to bring out later
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on when the attitude are really kicks
off, but this is where we're slowly
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starting to see them kind of shift. And here it is now. We're
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in June of ninety six. June
ten to night of ninety six is where
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we're at and we're coming right up
on King of the Ring Ninety six,
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which is one of the most historic
moments, you know, in wrestling.
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It was the birth of a legend
in the star right there with you know
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stone, called Steve Boston. So
the wrestling business is about to really change
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over the next couple weeks for the
WWF, whereas in WCW it's already changed
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over there with the outsiders coming over. That's kind of why we started at
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this areas because if you if you
really want to look at it, the
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first shot across the bow, for
instance, was what was Scott how going
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over to WC Dobie. I mean, if you don't, if you don't
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recognize that, then you don't see
where the attitude are started. My it's
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a great time in the show.
Tonight's going to be a fun one here
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tonight. You know, I like
these rows too, because they're only about
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like forty five minutes longer. So
because they were our back in the day,
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which I'm excited when they go up
to two hours actually too, because
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that was I think two hours is
that sweet spot right. It's just enough.
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It does just perfect. Like three
hours over kill. Always to me
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three hours is over saturate. It
just you can't too much. Can't write
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three hours of content every week and
fit everyboody in there. It's just it's
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too much. It's like you're just
throwing shit up against a wall and trying
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to make it stick for everybody,
to make it stick on represent and you
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just can't do it. So these
one hour shows are always fun because they
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fly by, and then the two
hour shows are even better to me because
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that's when they can really start developing
better story lines which you started. You
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start to see their story lines really
start to develop a lot more and a
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lot more players start to come out
on this two hour shows because they actually
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have enough space on television for them, because these one hour shows, let's
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be realistic, you got enough to
really cover three matches, probably a couple
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of backstage vignettes or interviews so you're
probably only highlighting about ten to twelve people
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on the show, if it's tag
teams or, you know, even if
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it's those backstage vignettes, or even
if it's repeats, you know, where
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they're showing things that have been happening
over the couple weeks. There's only a
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good dozen people that are getting showcased
on an hour long show, whereas you
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know, you put that up to
two hours and arguably you'll at least double
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that, I'm sure, your output, if not even more, you know,
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because they were never known for really
long matches on like raw and everything
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like that. No, not at
this point, you know, and you
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know rightfully. So they only had
an hour to kill. But tonight shows
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fun. We got some more king
of the ring qualifying matches. Let me
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read the card out for everybody tonight
here. So tonight show. pull it
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up. So tonight show features a
King of the ring qualifying match. We
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Got Owen Heart with his manager Jim
Cornett, and he's taken on Yoko Zuna.
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That's interesting matchup right there. What
do you think? Oh, definitely
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that's going to be an interesting one
to watch. What's your thoughts on Yoko
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Zuna? I don't know if me
you ever really talked about him before.
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No, we haven't. I've seen
a lot of his work. YOGO's one
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of those guys were he was an
incredible big man for the business. was
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I huge fan of Yoko Zona?
I got to be honest, I wasn't.
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I'm still not to this day.
I don't see it. I don't
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understand maybe the gimmick that they were
trying to sell off. Do I respect
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what he did for the industry.
Absolutely complete legend. Just not a fan
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of it entirely myself. You know, Mr Fuji, I thought was the
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whole act compared to Yoko Zona.
I thought if if Fuji Wasn't there,
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then Yoka Zona would have been done
in the water and I don't think anybody
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would ever talk about him. So
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manager that people often forget that was. It was a real staple on television
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for many one of us and really
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he fit really well and a lot
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here in the mid S. and
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you'll you'll go went on to have
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with the exception of a couple losses
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sold them as Asian, he wasn't
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You Samoan? Yeah, you know. And the thing was with him
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of control that they just they couldn't
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unhealthy for him and they knew it. So that a lot of the lot
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of parallels to under the giant ton, you know, and I mean his
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eating habits that they talked about for
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and dumplement of Adam mannaise and dip
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pounds put that effort in. I
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today. You know if he would
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been as special had he lost the
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of actors in Hollywood right that shrink
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Jonah Hill has been one of them
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then all of a sudden you know
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least a couple hundred pounds to still
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two four hundred range, I think
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with them there. So you think
if he would have stayed like a Rakishi,
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he would have been okay? I
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because he still would have been a
big guy. That was believable.
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It was the fact that he was
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of his run and was now was
that Kfebe? Was He actually have we
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verified that he was almost seven hundred
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said they would have to actually get
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that heavy and I believe Jim Ross
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what they sent him invader to like
a nutritional revot. was that big
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do he was? He that was
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end was they just couldn't do it
anymore. That was one of all.
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That was one of the reasons.
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a you know, like kind of
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get them a Dietitian and get him
under control. And I like fat camp
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in the military. Yeah, a
hundred percent. You know, they were
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sending him over to it and they
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ways to get delivered. They didn't
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like going somebody's literally telling you like
Hey, you're seven hundred pounds? Yeah,
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like I look at the scale and
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a hundred eighty pounds, like I
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pounds. Seven hundred pounds. Yep, you know what? And Jim Ross
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has talked about that because, you
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talent relations or something like that.
When they ended up releasing them that they
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just wouldn't put the food down.
So he wasn't at all dude, was
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he? I don't think so.
I think he was only like six one
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maybe sex God, someone a hundred
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a really big force. If he
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fifty, like a Rakishi size,
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have been believable because he still would
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have been, you know, I
don't wait, healthier. How the fuck
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did you move around the ring?
What do you do? You see it
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at the end with him, you
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he can bare leaving. That's why
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I think it was own hard was
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Basically was because he just couldn't move. Yeah, he couldn't move and get
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around. He could do a couple
of spots and that was about it.
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of the work. So Owen was
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you know, the work with him. But I don't know, I
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always liked Yoko. I just wish
she could have stayed healthier and would have
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maybe taken more seriously. It's always
one of those kind of questions you wonder,
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what if, if you would have
taken in a little bit more seriously,
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and how much longer could he have
gone for? Would he still be
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alive today? I don't know.
We don't know the questions to that.
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Will never know and it's a it's
a tragic story to see, but people
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talk very fondly of him as being
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a good legacy that he left behind
and he had a hell of a run
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and was fun to watch in a
lot of weight and a lot of things
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too. And Owen Heart. What
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We've talked about him a million times, so it'll be fun to see those
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two tonight. Friend of the show, Mr Mark Merrow, with sables here
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tonight and he's taken on skip and
a King of the ring qualifying man.
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Much anytime I see Mark Carrow,
yes, Kip Knot Zip, but skip
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nots not zip the skin yep,
and he's sinking on. Mark Merrow here
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in a qualifimage. I love Mark
Marrow. What do you think? About
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Mark Marrow Man. Mark Merrow was
incredible man. I even loved him as
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a marvelous one. I thought it
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was very underrated. His move set
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the right push, you know,
honestly, I think they ruined him with
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the whole sable turning on him and
he kind of beating him and just it
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was. It was a very bad
way of ending his career. You know,
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Johnny be bad was always entertaining to
me and WCW. I always thought
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that was a very entertaining character and
I wish we would have got that transition
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over to WC or to wwe.
Unfortunately we never got that. But marvelous
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marrow was even entertaining in itself.
It was just they went off into this
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area was sable, and you saw
what that turned out to be. It
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was a total nightmare, not for
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he let me tell you, he's
one of the nicest people in real life
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to like. One of the biggest
privileges we've had over the years on the
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show's having mark on earlier this year
and what a hall of fame human being
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and just an amazing, just amazing
person in so many ways that I you
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just can't, I couldn't. I
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He's such a gracious person and what
he loves his fans, he loves
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people. He doing so much good
for the world now and just an awesome
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guy man. So anytime I see
mark on it always just makes me smile
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because I love the person that he
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I love what he was doing.
I think he could have been a main
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event player if they would have given
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admits it on his own. He had
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an attitude sometimes at that point in
his life too. So you know,
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it works both ways and it is
what it is and I get where every
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side is coming from on it and
it is what it is and that's life.
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That's how it works and you could
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no hard feelings. That's how it
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of Guy Mark Merrow is. It's
a good dude. And then the main
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event tonight we got Davey Boy Smith, the British bull dog, taking on
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the undertaker. Oh that's an interesting
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I'm actually looking forward to that.
Davey boys incredible worker, not not so
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much on the on the Gimmick scale, but as far as enring skills,
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Davy Boys, great undertaker. How
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Seriously, incredible an event. What
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I mean we talked about him last
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like, and he's gonna he's going
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the years on the show. Yes, because of what he did, but
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damn man, the undertaker that that, that's just signed me a baby.
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Yeah, hundred percent. You know, it's going to be fun when when
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takers on their real quick programming note
for everybody is just so everybody knows we're
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going to still have our normal episodes
come out around the holidays. You know,
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everything's we're not going to short change
you on anything with our normal content
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that we put out. So everything
we're taping, a bunch of stuff we're
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going to be doing taking the award
show, which is going to be fun
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next week, so that's going to
be coming up. But we got a
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bunch of stuff still planned for you
guys. So don't worry about the hollies.
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be live once or twice during,
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It's the end of the year,
it's the holidays. You know, we
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got family commitments going on. So
we will have our material, it just
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won't be as much live. Only
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Ritchie and I are going to get
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couple weeks, you know, in
advanced night as well after. So just
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know it's just not going to be
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weeks, but right after the first
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that point where we're doing the you
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week. It's just we want to
do spend the right time with my son's
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coming home this weekend, so I
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him when he's home, and same
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quick programming note on that. That's
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don't have any fear on that if
you like, if you want your pro
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wrestling fix for the retro stuff,
it's definitely come in your way, along
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with some other fun stuff. With
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ready to roll? Buddy? Ready, baby, all right, man.
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So let's do this. Anybody,
if you want to watch along with us,
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episode twenty three, a Monday night
raw. The date on it is
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June ten, one thousand nine hundred
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You'll get it right there. So
let's get going. WE'RE gonna go
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in five hundred, four, three, two one and go the Revolutionary Force
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in sports interest entertainment. I love
these old I love these old intros that
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they would do. Yes, just
brings you back right, it does,
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man. Oh, here it is, the great Monday night raw opening to
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I love the siren going off here
in a minute. Yeah, it's beautiful.
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I wish they would bring back this
type of style, like raws war
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like this. You know, it
will ever happen, ever happen again.
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Dude, it never happen again.
Unfortunately, it will not. We can
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only dream, though, right.
Yeah, Yo, can get already out.
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Look at him, Dude, Oh
God, look at look at the
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warrior. He's jacked. WHOOF man. Yeah, he's pretty fucking shredded right
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there. Huh. Look at the
king's hair man. Always got the long
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bullet going on in the back.
They're yeah, Huh. Always got a
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presentation for the warrior. Than I
know what this yeah, you remember this?
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Yeah, I do. Yeah,
I remember this. Actually, I
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remember this. I think the king
actually drew that. He did. He
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drew it for him to present it
to him tonight. That's what type of
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stand up guy the king is.
Look at the King of hearts. Oh
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yeah, Owen Heart, come slammy. I love him coming out with the
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SLAMM. He's man, he's so
funny with it. He was. And
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there's his manager, Mr Jim Cornett. Look at triple a, Sir Young
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Ale. Ah, Huh, look
at that man backing. I'm gonna go
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there. Look at him jump out. Now that's my memory. Why does
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he have a cat? Why does
he have a cast I don't remember,
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to be honest with yeah, I
have. I don't even remember whatsoever.
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Why he has a cast on.
I don't know if it was a real
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life injury or if it was something
he was playing up where he would kind
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of use the cast, as I
think he was like. I think he
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would like use the cast to his
advantage in a match or something. Sure
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his time is about to run to
an end. Here is King of the
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ring here, because the new king
of the rings coming out and maybe he'll
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get a chance to win it again, but I think Stone Cold Steve Austin
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will have something to say about that, right. Yeah, absolutely. Look,
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yeah, I look at Yoga Dude. He looks just fucking terrible,
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doesn't he? Oh my God,
how could you move her? I like,
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I give him credit for even walk
and look how a lot of breath
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he is already. Yeah, like
he has to grab the ropes to hold
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himself up at certain points. When
talks about five or six steps, it's
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bad. Yeah, he's easily right
here. Six hundred, seven hundred pounds
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right here easily. Jesus man.
It's amazing when you go back you can
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see some of his old stuff actually, that I think he did some when
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he first came in, before they
did the Yoko Gimmick, that he did
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some dark matches. That they've shown
through the years of him and he was
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doing like a wild Samoan type look
like Rakishi and them did, with the
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head shrinkers and all that, and
you could just see he was probably a
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good three hundred pounds less than when
he is right here. Man Jim Cornetch
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is knocked him with the tennis racket
in the chops. I mean honestly,
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when success hits you and you're bigger
guy like that, like you're going to
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get bigger. Oh well, no
doubt about that. And you know,
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people overlook food. Foods an addiction
to it's like drugs are alcohol for some
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people can become an addiction. Absolutely. I never it's hard for me to
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understand it, but because I'm not
like some huge eater or anything like that,
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we're right. I could ever see
like because I'm like you. If
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I see myself popping up near a
hundred ninety pounds, you know I'm freaking.
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I'M gonna know. Listen happening.
I better make some changes here to
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drop a couple of pounds. Yeah, I hit two hunding dirty when me
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and you started podcast, and I
hit two hundred thirty and I'm down to
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one hundred and ninety and I'm like
Nope, yeah, it just never go
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like baby never again. It's amazing, like it's I get it, though,
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I really do. I understand what
people and I sympathize with it because
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it's an addiction and it's out of
control quick and you don't realize it.
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Yep, it's like anything, like
we're drug rock, all addiction. I
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can get out of girl really fast. Sure, that's just the way it
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goes. What's your time stamp out
now, Mr Reardon? Like time stamp
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is four hundred and fifty one.
All right, we're right around the same.
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So that's perfect. Who Got Ref
Red Button here? Oh, he
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said by that at that big Gom
on and we got referee Earl Hebner,
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and there to the second greatest referee
of all time, Nick Patrick. We
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all knows number. When we just
say that, Earl Hebner must know what
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the Fountain Youth is, because that
motherfucker just never ages. He's like Jimmy
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hard. Oh my God, Jimmy
Hart's the same way. He's like in
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his S. I think now they
never age. They look exactly like they
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did when they first started off.
Pretty Crazy, earl earl hevener, a
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little bit more than Jimmy hard even
very well could be. They both look
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just tremendous for their age and just
tremendous in general. They look exactly the
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same now as they do back then. I was going to say I don't
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know if it's if it's tremendous looking. It's just they haven't changed. Well
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for their age. It's tremendous,
like an all damn ki fell. Nope,
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he is not. Okay, I
thought he's gonna go for the sharp
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too, or I'm like, there
ain't no way in hell. Well,
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he got the pin there. That's
a surprising victory. Huh, not at
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all, not at all. What
a fall from grace it is for him
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and got it looked awful. You
gotta wonder, like what they're thinking at
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this point in time. They got
to be saying to themselves, I can't,
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it's about to be a wrap.
Yeah, like it's got it.
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You gotta say to yourself when you're
bringing something like, like when he's looking
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at that out there, like you
got to say, as the leader of
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the company, like I can't in
good conscience bring you out there. It's
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like when a fighter it's enabling.
Yeah, like when a fighters taken too
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many fucking shots to the head and
had too many wars through the years and
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they become punchy and get knocked out
all the time. Like you don't want
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to see that for them. No, same for him. He just not
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even fans when to see that.
You know, look at that graphic right
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there. Look at the warrior baby. Who Think? I think Royal Warrior
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was hitting the juiceman. Oh,
you gotta come on now. Yeah,
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if you don't believe that, then
I don't know what to tell you.
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All right, so they're doing.
They're doing highlights from some something that last
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night at the Rosemont Horizon and Chicago. That's going to be some hole in
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the wall fucking place for them.
I think the Rose Moonson is a pretty
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decent size actually, is it?
Yeah, think's my twelve, maybe fifteenzero
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people could sit there. Warrior Versus
Shaw N. Huh, interesting. The
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Click Cam. Do you remember that? Yep, yeah, boy, they
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were having fun of that House show. See it live. Where they going
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to be? I look a stable
and terry there. Why, they're beautiful
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women. Huh? It was a
few short years later they weren't. Yeah,
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I think Terry still a knockout really
yeah, I think she still looks
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great. She's another I think she's
about sixty. She still looks really good.
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When she was with new Jack for
a short period of time. That
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was a short period of time after
her medical west Arena and Phoenix. Look
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at that. There you go.
She never really had much of a place,
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it seemed, after Dustin and her
broke up. No, but I
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do like Terry there. I always
like Terry as a character. I thought
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she was pretty fun. Oh,
look at Jake here in interview with him
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from the Action Zone. Do you
remember the action zone? I don't.
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I do. I got a I
got a commercial, though, unfortunately.
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Right. I'll pause it up about
forty five seconds here. Beyonce and Jay
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Z. Oh, Hey, they
doing anything fun and exciting on it?
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Absolutely not. You like. Please, for the love of God, don't
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hit me with this commercial. I've
had enough of these fuckers. Tissany and
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Co about love? Yeah, I'm
sure it's about love when you're spending fucking
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five grand on a necklace for somebody. Let's get to this beautiful earrings for
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ten g's that's got to show him
your love by giving him that's well,
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yeah, five thousand Dollar Watch.
Here's a bracelet for for for a cool
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seven. That a love. I
don't know what is seriously, good,
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Lord Man, I'm five seconds.
Five seconds, folkes, you're good.
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Don't worry. Sorry, my cheapass
is not willing to pay for WWe to
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give me commercial free. There we
go, Jake, right, yeah,
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all right. So this is from
the action zone. I do not remember
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the action zone. No, Ritchie, yeah, I don't remember it either.
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That's kind of interesting. I don't
know what Jake is talking about.
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Makes too many pills, too much
cocaine? That he's don't talk about his
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drug use. They're really, really
quickly. Yeah, this was kind of
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the beginning of all that. Yeah, then they jerry started doing the stuff
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later on, pouring the bottle down
his mouth of alcohol and all that.
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Man, what do you think made
Vince think that that was okay to do
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angles like that? I don't like
those angles. anyways. I'm all about
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having fun and going being a little
controversial sometimes, but to me that's just
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that stuff is just classless. Like
like I was watching the Hawk an animal
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storyline last week and they started doing
it's a hawk, and I'm like what
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the fuck, like what made you
think that was okay? You know,
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God, when to find out that's
what he perish from. What is going
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on, Mr Martin, how you
doing a night? My friend so bret,
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a man Yo comn, just looks
just terrible. Here they're showing him
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in the back. I'll down and
dejected at this moment. That dude an
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Asian even a little bit. Yep, it kind of kills the kind of
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kills the name in the Gimmick.
When you hear him talk, he's even
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got the some Moan skirt on there. He's got to go, he says,
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find himself. All right, can't
concentrate because you carbohydrates are fucking driving
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your mind nuts. Yeah, here
comes the wild man, mark merrow coming
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out. There is what he looks
great, man, he's another guy.
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If you tell if you take a
look at what you want a professional wrestler
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to look like, is Mark Merrill
fit that or does he fit that?
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Of that time frame? Absolutely,
Yep. Of that time frame one hundred
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percent. Always Sable. WHOO.
As a manager, yeah, you can't
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get no better. She is smoke
into unfortunately. She found that out though.
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Yeah, God, look at her
and that outfit. HMM. WHOO.
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She was probably about every young man
and older man's fantasy in the audience.
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There has there ever been a story
on how these two met? Jesus,
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you know, I don't even know, to be honest with you,
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because I'll be on this. I
looked it up and you know, I
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can't confirm or deny but from what
I read she was his favorite stripper at
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a local strip club and they got
together interest. I'm not sure that.
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I can't confirm or deny that.
Like I said, he's a friend of
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the show and if I'm wrong,
I'm wrong. But that's what I've read
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through the stories and the rumors and
Innuendo. So yeah, I don't know.
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I actually think he might have mentioned
Rena once in our interview. Maybe
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you talked about her at some point, maybe for a second, but I
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don't know they're backstory at all.
I know they were married for what about
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a decade or so? I'm decade. Yep. Yeah, they were married
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for about a deck lot longer than
people thought actually. Yeah, and you
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know the here's a fact that a
lot of people might not know. Is
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Mark's, you know, daughter is
actually not his daughter. It's Rena's daughter
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from another from another relationship or marriage
that he adopted. So that's his you
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know, his daughter is adopted from
her first marriage there and it became his
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kids. So I'm sure they probably
still have a nice and cordial relationship to
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this day. I never saw it, hope. So yeah, I never
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did. I never saw him class
each other. Let's see, Chris said.
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I feel like it's extremely classes to
make storylines based on personal struggles,
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like see him punk versus Jericho exploiting. See Him PUNK's family history of drugs
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and alcohol, of brute abuse.
Yeah, I agree with that, Chris,
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I really do. Man, I
don't like that stuff either, but
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I can see where adds a personal
touch to the storyline and it really adds
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on to the story. But is
it is is there a million other ways
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you could tell a story that you
don't have to use that at all and
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it still be interesting? Absolutely,
absolutely. And is it necessary? You
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know, like you said, there's
a million other ways that you can do
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it. Yeah, why do you
like the one, the one with hawk?
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You know, every time I see
the one with Hawk it pisses me
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off because there's there was no reason
for that. There was absolutely no reason
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for that at all. Make Fun
of somebody's, you know, history like
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that, you know on air or
some stupid and they're actually going through it
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at the time you make fun of
it. Yeah, pretty sad that when
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he got to do that for yeah, this isn't you know, it's people's
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real lives, you know, right, and you know people will say often
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to that, you know, to
come bad that. Well, they would
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have to agree on the storyline to
do it. If they say no,
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what's going to happen to him?
Right? They lose the spot? Yeah,
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they might lose their spot, they
might they might get go on all,
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look at Scott Home WCW. Sure
they might lose their spot, man,
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and they don't want to because they
know that they're very timelimited to make
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money and they don't want to get
caught when you're making good cash. So
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I get it, but I just
still think it sucks. There's is so
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many other things you can do.
We talked about Candido a lot on the
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show here. You know, here's
a guy that really really if he was
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around to day, he would be
a major player in my opinion, and
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you know, I think he's a
guy that people really could have got behind.
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Just at this time. He was
just too small, you know,
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like they never would have given him
that rub, so to speak, you
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know, because they were of the
land of the big men. Would you
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agree on that statement? You think
Candido could have made a pretty big impact,
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maybe in the two thousand and twenty
one year? Yeah, you know
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I do. But in the same
token, you know, you did make
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a big impact and USW you know
a lot of people. You look at
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the eastw Brown they were third place
all the time. But fucking on a
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national scale, everybody knows that Chris
Candido is. So he did make a
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big splash. Could he fit in
more today with today's characters because they're that
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small? Yeah, absolutely. Unfortunately
he wrestled at the wrong time. But
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in the same token, you know, all due respect, Chris can Nedos
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one of the best guys to do
it. As far as ECW is concerned,
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that edgy or character that he used
an ECW just fit him perfectly.
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Yeah, it's not a guy that
you can get over these hockey and Corny
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gimmicks. You can't get them over
like that. Like yeah, the body
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Donna's was fun and for living,
is it? Come on, man,
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it's fun for a little bit they
had a later run with the belts.
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It's just cheesy, you know,
like make them actually look like they're legitimate,
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you know, fucking tough guys or
bad breats. Yeah, like they
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look like just corny and Hokey Good
Brown do this. And I mean you're
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talking about two phenomenal workers and the
body, says Dr Tom Pritchard, one
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of the greatest his trainers in the
history of professional wrestling, and Chrisky Indido,
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a guy that, you know,
real hardcore wrestling fans put up there
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with pretty tremendous talent. Is as
a tremendous talent that had all the tools
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and all the skills to do anything
he wanted to do a hundred percent.
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But yeah, let's make him skip
and ZIP. Oh, drop kick.
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There is Candido's coming off the top. Man, they that will drop kick.
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Yep, Rina's walking around that whip
man. She's ready to nail somebody.
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Yep, who? That could have
ended up bad, though, when
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you look at that replay how he
got look, that was a bad one.
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Yeah, that could ended up pretty
bad there for him. What do
519
00:33:27.589 --> 00:33:31.349
you say? While man, are
you quitting? There's skip gold, he
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ate, so wild now, is
he those, but his lips. Yeah,
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Jake's on a commentary here. Well, no, there're seeing fucking what
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an elp the Candido's wearing, dude, and that's that's breaking the scatter.
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Blue Tights with red trunks. Yeah, those boots, those boots, leave
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something to be desired. They don't
really match up too well, do they
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know? No, that's terrible.
That's like he forgot the matching trunks to
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go with those sky blue boots there
and decided, like should who he boughts
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that one merrow's doings. Oh,
nice move, sunset, flip over,
528
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:23.349
leaping from the top. Very nice. I liked marks finisher at this point
529
00:34:23.389 --> 00:34:28.670
that he would do with the shooting
star press. Yeah, yeah, you
530
00:34:28.789 --> 00:34:31.190
couldn't. He couldn't do that later
on. But you want to know something
531
00:34:31.269 --> 00:34:37.510
funny he did? He just turned
sixty one this last summer and he has
532
00:34:37.550 --> 00:34:40.539
like a lakehouse out where he lives, I think it's in Georgia, Florida,
533
00:34:42.179 --> 00:34:45.139
and they were out at the lake
and he put it up on his
534
00:34:45.260 --> 00:34:50.019
personal facebook page and he actually got
up to the top of this like deck
535
00:34:50.139 --> 00:34:52.849
that jumped into the lake and he
did it multiple times. He did he
536
00:34:52.969 --> 00:34:57.250
did move. Yeah, he can
still do it at sixty one years old.
537
00:34:57.769 --> 00:35:00.329
Nice. Can you believe that Shit? I couldn't do it it twenty
538
00:35:00.409 --> 00:35:04.849
one years old, let alone sixty. He kept himself in great shape,
539
00:35:04.929 --> 00:35:09.360
though he still needed still in phenomenal
shape. Still in phenomenal shape. I
540
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.199
got a got an ad here twenty
four seconds? Sure? No from do
541
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:21.079
let me know when you're good.
Yeah, the wild band character was one
542
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.269
that they it seems to me that
they just were never fully invested into it
543
00:35:25.389 --> 00:35:29.510
for some reason. I know Vincel
and s McMahon loved his look and brought
544
00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:31.829
him in for that reason, but
he wrote Johnny Vince love, Johnny the
545
00:35:31.949 --> 00:35:35.670
bad yeah, they could have just
given him a new name. I don't
546
00:35:35.670 --> 00:35:37.099
know why they, you know,
couldn't have done something similar to it.
547
00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:39.659
You know, I know the WCW
on the rights to his name, but
548
00:35:40.260 --> 00:35:45.699
like they could have done something similar
to it right, changes fucking name up,
549
00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:50.570
but hey, whatever. He made
the wild man gimmick work there too,
550
00:35:50.730 --> 00:35:53.449
and Marvelous Mark Mayro. I think
is is a fun time for him
551
00:35:53.449 --> 00:36:00.409
to all right, you back on, buddy, absolutely all right, and
552
00:36:01.610 --> 00:36:05.840
well still to come. Tonight,
as Vince's reminding us, we have the
553
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:10.079
British bulldog taking on the undertaker in
the main event. Yeah, that's going
554
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.440
to be a good one. Now, did you ever go to any of
555
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.559
the old school rows like this back
when you were younger? Nope, I
556
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:22.190
was too young at this point.
It was up until Monday night raw and
557
00:36:22.349 --> 00:36:25.230
the war zone that I didn't get
to go to my first you up.
558
00:36:25.349 --> 00:36:30.030
So God. They were fun shows
to go to live, folks. I'm
559
00:36:30.030 --> 00:36:32.059
telling you, they were good time
to go lie back in the day when
560
00:36:32.099 --> 00:36:36.179
they when Raws Ward and they started
doing that kind of kind of whole rows
561
00:36:36.300 --> 00:36:39.099
war thing and with all the pyro
and all that Shit. I've been so
562
00:36:39.260 --> 00:36:44.380
many times to rawn and it was
always a freaking blast and I never forget
563
00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:47.329
out lowed those screamers war when they
would kick the show off there and they
564
00:36:47.409 --> 00:36:52.090
just go right you know, and
shooting everywhere. I remember when Kane came
565
00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:53.449
out to one time. I saw
when Kane was there at the show.
566
00:36:53.969 --> 00:36:58.570
We were sitting right near the front
and when he blasted that off, damn,
567
00:36:58.650 --> 00:37:05.119
that's loud. It will never be
do Lokidd no, he the exy
568
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.960
fires were allowed. Yep, SE
DX more than a few times live to
569
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.679
they were always fun once to go
watch. Always got the crowd going.
570
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:19.710
Whether they were heels or faces didn't
really matter. Your favorite life show ever?
571
00:37:19.869 --> 00:37:24.829
What do you got for me?
My favorite live show ever? Huh,
572
00:37:28.030 --> 00:37:35.820
God, that's tough one got.
I want to say my favorite one
573
00:37:35.980 --> 00:37:40.820
ever was probably the first elimination chamber
match. That, ever, was Nice,
574
00:37:42.460 --> 00:37:46.730
good time. That was an incredible
one. Didn't know what to expect
575
00:37:46.769 --> 00:37:50.530
at the Elimination Chamber. It was
this one, Michael's one, right,
576
00:37:50.570 --> 00:37:54.769
yeah, and it was very,
very first one and you really didn't know
577
00:37:54.929 --> 00:38:00.400
what the Elimination Chamber was even going
to be. So everybody was excited.
578
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.239
I remember me and my friends,
we all got to go right after right
579
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.360
after a school week you know,
on that weekend we all got together,
580
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.639
stayed the night my friend's house at
the time. We played smackdown, shut
581
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:15.510
your mouth when it had just come
out on the playstation console, and just
582
00:38:15.230 --> 00:38:19.070
had a ball, stayed up late
and then the next night we got to
583
00:38:19.070 --> 00:38:22.349
go to Summerslam. It was just
an incredible weekend, man. So I
584
00:38:22.469 --> 00:38:25.750
think it was more it wasn't so
much the event, it was just the
585
00:38:25.829 --> 00:38:30.820
whole weekend. was just an incredible
weekend. Absolutely that's cool. Man.
586
00:38:30.179 --> 00:38:34.500
Yeah, that's cool. I gotta
go with for me, as a kid,
587
00:38:35.260 --> 00:38:38.820
I saw whole coging and Macho man
right after wrestle mania five and I
588
00:38:38.940 --> 00:38:42.889
saw them in a steel cage at
a house. Here you go, I
589
00:38:42.929 --> 00:38:45.010
remember you telling me about this one. It was awesome and I remember.
590
00:38:45.010 --> 00:38:47.889
I remember that very, very well
as a little kid. It was really
591
00:38:47.929 --> 00:38:52.170
an awesome I was the biggest whole
COA maniac in the world at that point
592
00:38:52.170 --> 00:38:54.920
and seeing him against Macho right after
wrestle mania five and I was I was
593
00:38:55.039 --> 00:39:00.400
hooked and that was just such a
cool moment. And then, of all
594
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.480
things, I remember going to a
WCW thunder. That was absolutely a blast.
595
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.000
Hogan came back. He'd been gone
for a long while. I believe
596
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:14.070
it was in February of two thousand
maybe, and boy, I never heard
597
00:39:14.110 --> 00:39:17.110
of pop like that as I did
for Hogan that night. Yep, fucking
598
00:39:17.190 --> 00:39:22.750
place just came on glued. Yeah, I'll never get you know, I
599
00:39:22.869 --> 00:39:27.780
was a huge triple age fan at
the time and my buddies decided it was
600
00:39:27.820 --> 00:39:32.139
a good idea that they're going to
Oh man, I picked it up victory
601
00:39:32.219 --> 00:39:36.780
from Mark Merrill. My buddies thoughts
a good idea to flip triple h off
602
00:39:37.420 --> 00:39:39.769
and he looked our way and he
clearly could see us, you know,
603
00:39:40.329 --> 00:39:44.889
and I'm sitting there going no,
no, no, no, you know,
604
00:39:45.130 --> 00:39:49.210
it was crazy. That was actually
at the time. That was a
605
00:39:49.329 --> 00:39:52.679
house show and that was right when
Randy Orton was on the come up and
606
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:58.159
Chris Benwall was the heavyweight champion at
the time. Gotcha, good time,
607
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.960
Ma, good time in the professional
wrestling world. I had a fun show.
608
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:05.000
I saw triple h a live.
Remember when he tours quadrucept the first
609
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.269
time? Yep, so he had
his first match back. It was on
610
00:40:08.349 --> 00:40:13.110
a house show and it was his
first match back to kind of warm them
611
00:40:13.150 --> 00:40:16.829
up before he came back. And
Man, that place came on glued when
612
00:40:16.869 --> 00:40:20.429
he came out too. And I'm
there. Forget, you know, this
613
00:40:20.630 --> 00:40:22.179
was a house show. Once again, Stephanie McMahon, I was right back
614
00:40:22.179 --> 00:40:27.260
near the entrance way. He spit
the water up all over US and hey,
615
00:40:27.380 --> 00:40:30.500
that was gross. As a just
that was pretty gross. But I
616
00:40:30.539 --> 00:40:34.099
remember Stephanie McMahon was sitting back right
near US and she was watching the whole
617
00:40:34.139 --> 00:40:36.889
match there at the time, and
you can see everybody was kind of glued
618
00:40:36.929 --> 00:40:39.130
to that area and it was a
really cool moment to see him come back
619
00:40:39.170 --> 00:40:43.250
and I think he went to raw
the next night, making redebut that night
620
00:40:43.369 --> 00:40:45.570
or, you know, again after. I think he was on for almost
621
00:40:45.610 --> 00:40:50.079
a year or so. Yeah,
but always on. It was New Year's
622
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.320
Eve that year that he came back. Yeah, something like the right around
623
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.960
there was. It was fun,
good it was good times in the wrestling
624
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.599
world. Richie, look at this
ad here for the Sakest Saturn Slam of
625
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.349
the week. Yeah, I got
an ad right now. Forty seconds are
626
00:41:04.710 --> 00:41:07.230
right, man. We'll pause it
there for a second. This saga Saturn.
627
00:41:07.269 --> 00:41:09.670
Did you ever have a Sega Saturn
as again? Yeah, man,
628
00:41:09.989 --> 00:41:14.829
Oh, yeah, Sago. That
was a fun game system to play back
629
00:41:14.869 --> 00:41:17.550
in the day that kids are were
no know about now. Yeah, Sega
630
00:41:17.619 --> 00:41:22.579
Saturn. You got the Sega Genesis? Yes, I remember. My favorite
631
00:41:22.579 --> 00:41:27.539
game was either sonic the Hedgehog or
I would play Joe Montana's talking football.
632
00:41:28.260 --> 00:41:31.099
Yep, there was that. I
I love the the toy story and the
633
00:41:31.219 --> 00:41:36.610
lion king and Aladdin Games. Boy, once again, the good old days.
634
00:41:36.650 --> 00:41:39.730
Right, Shit, man. And
then you haven't the American. Oh
635
00:41:39.849 --> 00:41:43.730
my God, I do have a
couple of them. You still have sing?
636
00:41:43.849 --> 00:41:46.480
Oh Yeah, do they want Oh
yeah, Oh yeah, I got
637
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.920
my Nintendo sixty four. I got
all going to be worth some money.
638
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.159
Yeah, yeah, I got them
all out in my living room. But
639
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:59.400
you know, we had the American
gladiators. That was a good game,
640
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:04.710
absolutely. Man. WHO's your favorite
American gladiator? I don't have one.
641
00:42:04.750 --> 00:42:07.150
I don't know. I don't even
remember their names, to be honest with
642
00:42:07.269 --> 00:42:10.150
Naturo was my dude. Man,
that was such that was such a forgetful
643
00:42:12.869 --> 00:42:15.699
I just you know, the American
gladiers was a fucking joke. I'd love
644
00:42:15.820 --> 00:42:20.699
it. Mike Adam Lee was one
of the host with Larry Zonka. Do
645
00:42:20.780 --> 00:42:28.340
you remember during WCW's later years they
had kind of can't even remember what the
646
00:42:28.420 --> 00:42:31.730
show was causing, as pyramid or
something like that, and they actually had
647
00:42:31.769 --> 00:42:36.090
the characters from that show come on. It was like an American glad hear
648
00:42:36.130 --> 00:42:38.889
show. Do you remember that?
I don't actually, Dude, I'm gonna
649
00:42:38.889 --> 00:42:43.449
have to. We're gonna have to
go through here and show when that one
650
00:42:43.530 --> 00:42:47.039
that actually took place, because it
was it was definitely a funny time for
651
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.079
WCW. And what was the show
called? I can't remember. I don't
652
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.599
know if it was pyramid or or
what, but it was. It was
653
00:42:54.719 --> 00:43:00.349
exactly like American gladiators, but they
had like wrestling gimmicks as these characters.
654
00:43:00.750 --> 00:43:04.429
What the fuck? Yeah, if
anybody knows the name of this stuff,
655
00:43:04.429 --> 00:43:07.710
I'd love to see that. It
was it was like WCW's later years.
656
00:43:07.989 --> 00:43:09.829
That it happens. Oh Man,
I'd love to see this. Anybody knows
657
00:43:09.869 --> 00:43:13.539
the name for it or could find
like to this and send it on over?
658
00:43:13.940 --> 00:43:16.539
Yep, I remember this black dude
had like a white, half white
659
00:43:16.619 --> 00:43:21.500
painted face and like, I'll look
it up tonight when we get off the
660
00:43:21.539 --> 00:43:23.860
show, and I'll text it to
you. Yeah, I got to check
661
00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:28.010
this shit out because I don't know. Is that lets Luger and the ultimate
662
00:43:28.090 --> 00:43:34.210
warrior costume? Yeah, what is
that? Why is he wearing a hat?
663
00:43:34.489 --> 00:43:37.769
Oh, no, okay, so
here's the backstory to this. He's
664
00:43:37.849 --> 00:43:42.880
wearing a hat right now. Do
you see that? Yeah, why hasn't?
665
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.559
Have you ever seen the warrior where
a hat? No, so the
666
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.960
warrior did not want to take this
shot that he's going to that's going to
667
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.920
happen here. He does not want
to take the shot with the class to
668
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:58.150
the head. So he pitched holy
hell about doing this spot with Jerry,
669
00:43:58.150 --> 00:44:01.190
the King Lawler, and he ended
up going into business for himself and wearing
670
00:44:01.230 --> 00:44:04.949
this hat out there so when he
got when he gets nailed here in a
671
00:44:05.030 --> 00:44:09.260
minute, that he doesn't get busted
open in any way. So, yeah,
672
00:44:09.699 --> 00:44:13.340
you never seen the warrior where a
hat, but he's going to rock
673
00:44:13.380 --> 00:44:15.139
it out here for sure. Yea, all of a sudden. Yeah,
674
00:44:16.539 --> 00:44:20.420
look at these in all black face
pain to that's kind of different for him,
675
00:44:20.460 --> 00:44:22.300
right. That is very different.
I don't think I've ever seen him
676
00:44:22.300 --> 00:44:28.130
in all black face paint like that
something. Yeah, I don't even know
677
00:44:28.210 --> 00:44:30.690
what his hat is, what the
logo is on there. God, he
678
00:44:30.809 --> 00:44:37.010
looks jacked up, like he's on
something. He looks like he's he knows
679
00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:38.559
what's about to come and he doesn't
want to be in this stupid gimmick.
680
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:45.440
I think he thinks this is beneath
him. Yeah, with the stories about
681
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:47.760
that, people told through the ears
about working with him, is something in
682
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.789
something that you can probably talk for
days about, absolutely craziness of working with
683
00:44:52.949 --> 00:44:55.829
this guy. Yeah, I love
him, don't get me wrong. I
684
00:44:55.869 --> 00:45:00.949
love the character, but he was
a fucking lunatic. Yeah, you know,
685
00:45:01.070 --> 00:45:05.869
watching his later videos when he gotten
fused with like Kevin Nash and Shit
686
00:45:05.989 --> 00:45:09.820
like that, it was like,
Jesus, dude, like fucking wrong with
687
00:45:09.940 --> 00:45:15.820
you? Yeah, there's there's a
lot wrong with him. He just he's
688
00:45:15.860 --> 00:45:17.139
in his own world, this guy. You could just see it. He's
689
00:45:17.139 --> 00:45:21.809
in his own world. He thinks
he's the shit he does and he thinks
690
00:45:21.849 --> 00:45:23.769
he can get away with anything.
He thinks the world revolves around him.
691
00:45:24.050 --> 00:45:27.809
You know, he was the Shit, don't get me wrong, like ultimate
692
00:45:27.929 --> 00:45:30.929
work, was the shipped. He
was not the whole shit. He was
693
00:45:30.010 --> 00:45:34.050
not the whole company. He wasn't
as big as he thought he was.
694
00:45:34.090 --> 00:45:37.119
Yeah, that's the problem with a
lot of wrestlers is they start believing the
695
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:43.719
height. Now, recent let's talk
a modern thing here for a second while
696
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.960
this is going on. Johnny Gargano
just is betten on himself and ended up
697
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:51.070
leaving the next what do you think
about Johnny Gargano? You think he's going
698
00:45:51.110 --> 00:45:53.190
to go to a w you think
he's a big signing if they get him.
699
00:45:53.230 --> 00:45:55.909
What's your what's your opinion on it? I've never been a fan of
700
00:45:55.989 --> 00:45:59.750
Gargun on, to be honest with
you. I think he's a good in
701
00:45:59.829 --> 00:46:04.699
ring worker. I think his character
your shit. I don't think there's any
702
00:46:04.739 --> 00:46:09.019
basis to it at all and if
he goes over to AW's getting get lost
703
00:46:09.059 --> 00:46:15.780
in the shuffle because there's too many
of characters like him. Good points,
704
00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:17.849
for sure. It's a it's a
tough time, I think, for people
705
00:46:17.849 --> 00:46:21.650
out there now, the people that
have been released and the people that are
706
00:46:21.650 --> 00:46:24.130
out there. Can I brank can
I blame him for not wanting to go
707
00:46:24.250 --> 00:46:27.889
to the main roster? Absolutely not. I mean, look with it,
708
00:46:28.010 --> 00:46:34.159
done with everybody else. Yeah,
it's a tough time for I think because
709
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.800
there's it's such an overset. You
know, wrestling is so oversaturated week after
710
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.719
week, but there's only two big
places you can really go and make money.
711
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:45.920
Yeah, the impact something, but
how many spots does aw have to
712
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.269
sign big, you know, big
name talent and pay all the money like?
713
00:46:50.389 --> 00:46:52.750
Like I said, he's just like
another diamond, doesn't guy? He's
714
00:46:52.750 --> 00:46:55.469
like a diamond dozen over there.
He's the same character, great worker,
715
00:46:55.550 --> 00:47:00.349
everybody does, the flips, the
spins, the fucking super kicks, the
716
00:47:00.460 --> 00:47:04.980
YEP. What's different from him and
an Adam Cole? What's different from him
717
00:47:05.019 --> 00:47:07.940
like any Omega, Brian Danielson,
ever, all similar styles. and nothing
718
00:47:07.980 --> 00:47:10.579
against Johnny Gargan, who's a great
worker. I got nothing but respect for
719
00:47:10.619 --> 00:47:15.809
him, but I just don't know
if it would pay off been in any
720
00:47:15.849 --> 00:47:19.329
big way for the right right.
I hope it works out for him,
721
00:47:19.369 --> 00:47:22.530
I really do, but hundred percent
it's a tough time in the wrestling business.
722
00:47:22.570 --> 00:47:25.449
I think right now with ring them
on are closing down and boom,
723
00:47:27.250 --> 00:47:32.719
man, you got fucking nailed with
that one cheese. Look at that.
724
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:39.440
Oh, you didn't even know cells
it. He didn't even take the glass
725
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.480
on the fucking head. No,
he took the back of the frame.
726
00:47:44.389 --> 00:47:47.550
See, he didn't even nail them
with the glass, eat them with the
727
00:47:47.590 --> 00:47:52.670
back of the frame. Yeah,
I gotta add here about nine seconds here.
728
00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:59.300
Sure, let me know when you're
good and fast. For three,
729
00:47:59.900 --> 00:48:07.659
two ones or all right, all
right, they're playing up something with Davy
730
00:48:07.699 --> 00:48:12.739
boy and Seawan here, contempt JE
twenty three. The battle is raging on.
731
00:48:12.820 --> 00:48:19.610
It looks like King of the ring. They always had really good feuds
732
00:48:19.610 --> 00:48:22.090
him and Shawn Michael's. To me
they always have really good matches. Yeah,
733
00:48:22.090 --> 00:48:25.809
they did. You know, I'm
really surprised that Davey Boyd never got
734
00:48:25.849 --> 00:48:29.400
to get the the title or carry
it. To be honest with you,
735
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.280
I definitely think he should open at
one point. Am I shoot it at
736
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:36.119
one point? Absolutely there. There
was no reason for him not to.
737
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:44.110
Well, here he comes out now
he's taken on the undertaker is. That
738
00:48:44.190 --> 00:48:47.670
would show him, because I'm I'm
showing the warrior thing. We're your think
739
00:48:47.710 --> 00:48:55.619
just ended here. What's your time
stamp at Twe Twenty eight. All right,
740
00:48:55.699 --> 00:49:00.500
we're right at the same spot.
Dave's coming out now. Now he's
741
00:49:00.500 --> 00:49:07.179
got his wife Diana with him.
Did you manager Jim Cornett? Beware of
742
00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:12.130
dog in Your House, Buddy?
Now, do you think Jim Cortnett's a
743
00:49:12.170 --> 00:49:15.969
bigger ASSHOLES EVERYBODY MAKES MOUTH TO BE? I think he's playing. I think
744
00:49:15.969 --> 00:49:20.130
he plays a gimmick up and think
he's smart. That's how he's still making
745
00:49:20.170 --> 00:49:22.449
a lot of money nowadays. I
do. I think he's a likable guy
746
00:49:22.610 --> 00:49:27.920
with the way things that he says
to me. No, but I think
747
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.280
maybe a little bit of it's true, but I think a lot of it
748
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.880
is played up for a character.
Sure, what about you? Same thing.
749
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.510
I don't think he's a racist.
Like when that situation happened in Pat
750
00:49:39.590 --> 00:49:45.869
Nwa power. I don't think he's
a racist. I think people expect him
751
00:49:45.030 --> 00:49:49.710
to say certain things and he panders
to his audience to continue to make that
752
00:49:49.829 --> 00:49:52.389
money and he gives them what they
want. They want to hear these hate
753
00:49:52.429 --> 00:49:55.980
filled speeches that he gives where he's
cussing everybody out and just saying mean and
754
00:49:57.019 --> 00:50:00.780
awful Shit, Oror he's picking on
certain things. He's a really bright mind.
755
00:50:00.820 --> 00:50:04.860
When you listen to him, he's
what a talker he is to I
756
00:50:04.940 --> 00:50:08.329
mean he's as eloquent as they come. They guys phenomen I've never cracked up
757
00:50:08.409 --> 00:50:13.010
more in a shoot interview than a
Jim Cornette one. Dude, he's hilarious.
758
00:50:13.210 --> 00:50:15.570
I took you too windy's, you
fat fucking this is how you treat
759
00:50:15.610 --> 00:50:19.969
me. Did you ever see the
Wendy's video when he flipped out onto people
760
00:50:19.969 --> 00:50:24.480
from smoke? That shit is his
legendary or you fucking boots, I ared
761
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:29.159
my food an hour ago. We
want a Goddamn food. The best is
762
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.480
when you get him going on Vince
Rousseau and he just starts fucking man log
763
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:36.989
piling on him. He hates him. Whoop, he hates him. We
764
00:50:37.110 --> 00:50:40.670
think they ever resolve their issues.
Never, never, never happening. They'RE
765
00:50:40.670 --> 00:50:44.510
gonna THEY'RE gonna die that way.
Yeah, and you know what, I
766
00:50:44.510 --> 00:50:46.230
don't put that on. Russo roussas
tried to broke her that through the years.
767
00:50:46.269 --> 00:50:49.710
I put that on think it really
was trying to broker it, though.
768
00:50:49.829 --> 00:50:52.179
I think he does. I really
do. Any think he does.
769
00:50:52.300 --> 00:50:53.699
I used to listen to him back
in you know, for a while,
770
00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:58.059
and I think, man, I
got to be fair, I think he
771
00:50:58.099 --> 00:51:00.380
did mean what he said, but
Cornet shure took it over the top more
772
00:51:00.420 --> 00:51:04.530
than a few times. Nice.
It's pretty fucking funny, though, with
773
00:51:04.610 --> 00:51:07.530
some of the stuff that he says. I'll tell you, bro like he
774
00:51:07.650 --> 00:51:14.449
calls him shit staying. If there's
ever a murder that happens and fucking wrestling,
775
00:51:14.489 --> 00:51:16.170
it's going to be that. I
might be if they if you ever
776
00:51:16.210 --> 00:51:20.679
put them at a convention or something, yeah, that's going to be good's
777
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.880
gotta Mistass and you've ever made you're
going to see cornette loading up at Wendy's,
778
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.880
piling down those triples, those triple
stacks there to get some energy and
779
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:30.119
any when he knows he's going to
see him. He's just going to Bobby
780
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:35.309
Bouche him. There's gonna be so
many fucking Oh my God, so many
781
00:51:35.349 --> 00:51:37.630
lawsuits, so many. It's just
who wins into in a real fight?
782
00:51:37.670 --> 00:51:42.789
Jim Cornette or Vince Russo? Who
Got Jim Cornette all day? You think
783
00:51:42.829 --> 00:51:46.070
so? He's got hatred in him
for that man. The just fucking doesn't
784
00:51:46.139 --> 00:51:51.340
die. Dude. That's a that's
a powerful motivator right there. Boy,
785
00:51:51.739 --> 00:51:54.019
when he goes off on Joey Janella
to and Nick Gage, I think those
786
00:51:54.019 --> 00:52:00.260
are even better. You think so? They're funny. He fucking hates Joey
787
00:52:00.380 --> 00:52:01.809
that. He's never said that he
wants to fucking kill them, though.
788
00:52:01.929 --> 00:52:07.889
You know I said so. That's
not too far behind now. Pretty he's
789
00:52:07.929 --> 00:52:09.650
been pretty close on that a few
times, basically saying stuff like that.
790
00:52:12.289 --> 00:52:15.239
He hates them without passion, hates
sorrow. Can you blame him? I
791
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.519
mean, they're making a mockery of
the business he's made money in for the
792
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:23.519
past however many years. He's one
of the last few guys that really still
793
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:28.519
protects KFEB, even though, you
know, of course, nobody stands to
794
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:32.429
believe that wrestling is real anymore.
But he is old school through and through,
795
00:52:32.550 --> 00:52:36.710
and when he sees them not protecting
the business and his mind, he
796
00:52:36.949 --> 00:52:40.389
absolutely just a viscerates those people for
it. Yeah, is it old school
797
00:52:40.389 --> 00:52:45.579
thinking? Yes, but this is
guy, a guy that's given his life
798
00:52:45.579 --> 00:52:49.059
to this business and loves it,
because I think a lot of the reason
799
00:52:49.139 --> 00:52:52.139
why wrestlings dead right now is because
they gave up that old school way.
800
00:52:52.139 --> 00:52:55.980
I think sure, it's great points
right there. It's very valid arguments for
801
00:52:57.059 --> 00:53:00.889
that many ways. Yeah, and
you know, people see somebody and the
802
00:53:01.329 --> 00:53:05.210
one true person out there now that
stays in character all the time, and
803
00:53:05.289 --> 00:53:07.010
you know who it is, and
I do too, is I'm JF.
804
00:53:07.570 --> 00:53:10.889
Yep, the guy doesn't break kfee
or anything. He staying the exact way
805
00:53:12.050 --> 00:53:15.159
that he portrays on TV. And
do I think mjf is like that in
806
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.840
real life? No, but no, he plays that gimmick up no matter
807
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.559
where he goes. I love watching
when people take videos of him at autograph
808
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:28.630
signings. Yeah, he's just gone
as he's gone as far as to make
809
00:53:28.710 --> 00:53:34.110
fun of a handicap child like that's
when you're really protecting the gimmick. Right
810
00:53:34.110 --> 00:53:38.150
there, like he'sy says to the
Guy, to the kid in the wheel
811
00:53:38.150 --> 00:53:40.110
chairs, like, if you want
a picture with me, you got to
812
00:53:40.110 --> 00:53:45.059
stand up and come over here,
like how could you do my God,
813
00:53:45.500 --> 00:53:50.019
I know, and how ugging terrible. Think if somebody else did it,
814
00:53:50.099 --> 00:53:52.099
though, they would eat him up, but for whatever reason they let this
815
00:53:52.219 --> 00:53:55.010
guy just go with it. Nobody
says shit to him. Well, because
816
00:53:55.010 --> 00:53:59.650
they know it's him. I mean
it's just it's like Roddy Piper, like,
817
00:53:59.929 --> 00:54:01.610
you know he'd go in there and
do the Mexicans hat dance in front
818
00:54:01.650 --> 00:54:07.090
of a full crowd in Mexico and
and you know all these people are wanting
819
00:54:07.130 --> 00:54:08.610
to stab him and shit and he's
like well, I'm doing my job.
820
00:54:08.809 --> 00:54:13.679
You know, Jeff's here. Until
any story when he was down in Mexico.
821
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:15.079
I heard it on his podcast,
I think from a week or two
822
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:19.639
ago and from I think it was
the promoter down where he went with maybe
823
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.679
he was like maybe, like AAA, and I think Conan was the promoter.
824
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.510
I could be wrong, but I
believe he said it was Conan and
825
00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:30.989
they told him to throw Tom are
the tortilla shells out when he came out
826
00:54:30.989 --> 00:54:34.070
at the crowd and he's like Na, I'm not going to do that,
827
00:54:34.349 --> 00:54:36.909
and he's like and they're like no, you want to get big heat,
828
00:54:36.989 --> 00:54:38.300
this is how you do it.
To these people, go they'll go nuts.
829
00:54:38.860 --> 00:54:42.179
And he ended up again. I'm
sure they will. Yeah, he
830
00:54:42.179 --> 00:54:45.380
ended up doing it and throwing Tortilla
shells out of I'm in doing it,
831
00:54:45.860 --> 00:54:52.300
and they just went livid on him, just livid. I'm sure they wanted
832
00:54:52.300 --> 00:54:55.730
to stab his all easily. Like
you're not going to see people doing that
833
00:54:55.769 --> 00:55:01.769
much anymore. No, today's generation, that shit ain't gonna happen. It's
834
00:55:01.809 --> 00:55:07.559
amazing to think that. What you
gotta Admire mjf though. Yeah, he's
835
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:09.440
stick, got the cone is go
do it. You know, have you
836
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.920
ever heard him apologize for anything he's
ever said and done? Nope, no
837
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.400
person, and I don't think they'd
make him. I love the shit that
838
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:21.239
he did with DDP and his daughter
and all that. It was fucking classic
839
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:25.030
noon. He's just good with everything
he does, a hundred percent. Honestly,
840
00:55:25.150 --> 00:55:28.670
I was soelfish because I wanted to
see DDP back in the ring.
841
00:55:28.869 --> 00:55:32.989
So love seeing DDP out there any
time, and DDP's such a legend of
842
00:55:34.070 --> 00:55:37.659
the business. Hundred Jesus. Look
at the undertaker pick up bulldog like he's
843
00:55:37.739 --> 00:55:43.980
nothing. Yeah, looking size difference, are you? I know. And
844
00:55:44.139 --> 00:55:46.260
bull dog is not a t not
here, man. No, he's US
845
00:55:46.539 --> 00:55:50.929
come up like that like he's nothing. What do you think? Two hundred
846
00:55:50.929 --> 00:55:54.650
and ten pounds maybe for bulldog?
Yeah, I bet you bulldogs pushing close
847
00:55:54.690 --> 00:55:58.809
to three hundred right there and muscle. Think so. Yeah, two hundred
848
00:55:58.849 --> 00:56:00.690
seventy five, three hundred, I
would say now. I'm let me look
849
00:56:00.690 --> 00:56:07.360
at him here now. Probably not
three hundred to sixty two seventy five read.
850
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.000
Yeah, maybe two fifty, two
hundred and sixty. I bet you
851
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:14.079
in his Wembley days, like when
he when he won the title and ninety
852
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:15.840
two the ICEE title, I bet
you he was close to two hundred and
853
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:19.510
ninety three hundred right around there.
That was the beast shape I think he
854
00:56:19.590 --> 00:56:22.789
was ever in. Yeah, he
was. He was going up and down
855
00:56:22.829 --> 00:56:25.750
a little bit in his weight at
some points. Lay At this point of
856
00:56:25.789 --> 00:56:30.550
his career and then when he went
over to WCW after the screwjob incident,
857
00:56:31.110 --> 00:56:37.139
he just looked like absolute dog shit
him and nightheart. Oh they were.
858
00:56:37.340 --> 00:56:40.059
It was terrible to see, you
know, it was got awfully just quick
859
00:56:40.139 --> 00:56:45.500
give him a fuck. Yeah,
they got he got sober and or maybe
860
00:56:45.539 --> 00:56:47.210
he was drinking at the time.
I don't remember, but I know he
861
00:56:47.289 --> 00:56:52.690
was battling with substances and was bouncing
back and forth between being sober and not
862
00:56:52.849 --> 00:56:55.889
sober, off of alcohol and drugs, and I'm sure it bloated him up
863
00:56:55.929 --> 00:56:59.929
or, if he was off of
it, that he was maybe not working
864
00:56:59.969 --> 00:57:04.199
out as much, eating not taking
care of himself, because he just didn't
865
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.960
look like that as you got down
there, like Oh yeah, how could
866
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:13.239
you not look at him walk the
top rope? I would have fucking old
867
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:17.070
school. Yeah, when he does
old school, it's it's a hell of
868
00:57:17.110 --> 00:57:21.349
a site to see a six foot
ten guy walking the walk in the ropes
869
00:57:21.429 --> 00:57:24.469
like it's absolutely fucking nothing. That's
a hell of move right there. Hmmm,
870
00:57:25.670 --> 00:57:29.190
one of my favorite on the outside
there. Yeah, one of my
871
00:57:29.269 --> 00:57:35.179
favorite moves in the undertaker's repertoire old
school. Yep, I love it.
872
00:57:35.739 --> 00:57:37.460
Yeah, mine always be as choke
slam. I thought you did the best
873
00:57:37.460 --> 00:57:40.420
joke slam of all time. He
does a great choke slam and then you
874
00:57:40.500 --> 00:57:45.010
can't deny the tombstone being pretty awesome
too. Tombstones great, but you know,
875
00:57:46.289 --> 00:57:50.570
the choke slam a lot of people
do it and you just like it's
876
00:57:50.650 --> 00:57:53.610
saturated now, but there'll never be
a choke slam like the undertakers. I
877
00:57:54.329 --> 00:58:00.320
liked at points the American Badass type
Gimmick, but it never really got way
878
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:01.840
over with me. Like I get
why they did it at the time,
879
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:06.519
but to me I always like the
undertaker more at the dead man type character.
880
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:14.389
Sure interesting to see Diana that how
they've incorporated her and at the storylines
881
00:58:14.429 --> 00:58:19.110
over the last couple weeks. Sure
she was a very beautiful woman to she
882
00:58:19.150 --> 00:58:27.380
could have been a great valet if
they went she was. Absolutely we're gonna
883
00:58:27.380 --> 00:58:30.860
have cut there. Oh Man,
he always did this weird stop whenever he
884
00:58:30.980 --> 00:58:36.340
throw kicked. You know that?
Yeah, I could see that. Its
885
00:58:36.380 --> 00:58:38.780
head butt to where. Look how
high he lifts his damn leg when he's
886
00:58:38.820 --> 00:58:44.369
coming down. Is he going to
pick him up and hold him up here
887
00:58:44.449 --> 00:58:49.329
like he does? He's definitely got
to be strong enough for this. Yeah,
888
00:58:49.369 --> 00:58:54.369
a hundred percent. Wow, man
broke. You know, I'm undertaker's
889
00:58:54.409 --> 00:58:58.239
about three hundred and thirty. Here
I'M gonna say he's about three thirty,
890
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:02.599
three forty. Yeah, and Davey
picks them up like he's nothing. I
891
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:07.760
love it when undertaker rises like that. He's gonna Whoop his ass here.
892
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:15.070
Yes, he is now. I
forget you. Did you like this outfit
893
00:59:15.150 --> 00:59:16.349
of the undertaker that he kind of
were at this time? Is this one
894
00:59:16.389 --> 00:59:20.590
of your ones that you dig on
him or no? No, I really
895
00:59:20.630 --> 00:59:23.269
didn't. I thought the the gray
and black one. If we're talking about
896
00:59:23.269 --> 00:59:28.780
this particular tire, I like the
Grhand bike one myself. The purple one
897
00:59:28.940 --> 00:59:31.900
was kind of just just because the
shade of purple they picked. But,
898
00:59:32.900 --> 00:59:38.210
like I said, my favorite undertaker
of all time probably King of the ring
899
00:59:39.050 --> 00:59:43.530
when he faced mankind. That was
probably my favorite sire that you ever wore.
900
00:59:44.809 --> 00:59:46.650
Well, he evolved that character so
many times for the years and the
901
00:59:46.690 --> 00:59:50.289
different looks and everything, and it's
always kind of neat to see that with
902
00:59:50.369 --> 00:59:53.519
him, and he always found a
way to reinvent himself. Right. What
903
00:59:53.760 --> 01:00:00.559
was your least favorite version of the
undertaker? American Badass, that's to me.
904
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:05.599
Mine was the Ministry of Darkness because
it was so awkward. They didn't
905
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:07.949
really you could tell with the undertaker
at that time they didn't really have a
906
01:00:08.030 --> 01:00:13.230
solid plan. He was kind of
an afterthought. I think is the best.
907
01:00:13.269 --> 01:00:14.909
It is the best way to kind
of look because they had so much
908
01:00:14.949 --> 01:00:17.630
other stuff kind of going on right, like yeah, yeah, way,
909
01:00:19.469 --> 01:00:23.780
and he had the rocky and mcfoley
cane and had become arguably a bigger superstar
910
01:00:23.980 --> 01:00:29.300
at that time. Big Show would
just come in. I mean it dude,
911
01:00:30.139 --> 01:00:31.539
the undertaker just got lost in the
shoffle, I think, and it
912
01:00:31.619 --> 01:00:36.170
was a good time for him because
you got to take off and kind of
913
01:00:36.170 --> 01:00:40.530
heals some injuries that have been bothering
him the corporate ministry. I liked it,
914
01:00:40.730 --> 01:00:45.610
but what they did wrong to me
was they watered it down so fast,
915
01:00:45.650 --> 01:00:47.210
kind of like the what the Nwo
did at you know, at points
916
01:00:47.250 --> 01:00:51.199
when they had too many members of
it people, it just didn't I would
917
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:54.599
say they did it worse than the
end wo even could be. I can't
918
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.960
remember all the people that were in
it at some point because, you know,
919
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:06.670
you had you had Yangrill, you
had the brood, you had the
920
01:01:06.789 --> 01:01:09.630
accoltes, you had midian. Yeah, I was in it at one point.
921
01:01:09.630 --> 01:01:14.349
Two right, it had shamrock,
you had test, you had triple
922
01:01:14.469 --> 01:01:17.659
h yeah, awest man, ass
man, you had Shane McMahon, the
923
01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:22.619
rock at one point. I mean
you couldn't keep track of who the fuck
924
01:01:22.739 --> 01:01:27.219
was who. That's a lot of
fucking people to throw in it. One
925
01:01:27.420 --> 01:01:30.139
faction right. Well, not to
mention, like, you know, the
926
01:01:30.219 --> 01:01:35.170
undertaker did this whole speel when he
first started it of I'm going to take
927
01:01:35.250 --> 01:01:37.969
over the WWF and this is how
I'm going to do it, and then
928
01:01:38.170 --> 01:01:44.730
you just join the corporate you just
join the corporation. It's like it didn't
929
01:01:44.769 --> 01:01:47.360
make any sense to me at all. You know, I liked his outfit
930
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:50.519
that he would kind of come out
with there, though, for the Corporate
931
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.239
Ministry. I thought that was some
pretty cool. His get up was pretty
932
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.800
cool. I always enjoyed that.
were talking about the robe. Yeah,
933
01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:01.030
the robe and stuff. It just
how he'd kind of he had more of
934
01:02:01.110 --> 01:02:04.989
a punk emo type look to that
he would kind of portray with it.
935
01:02:05.110 --> 01:02:07.750
I think you know where you'd see
him putting more makeup on. That was
936
01:02:07.829 --> 01:02:12.710
really obvious with his makeup and it
was just it was different than what what
937
01:02:12.869 --> 01:02:16.460
we were used to with him when
a long the Longass fingernails and yeah,
938
01:02:16.460 --> 01:02:19.980
I didn't like that part of it, though. I thought that was kind
939
01:02:19.980 --> 01:02:23.219
of fucking weird. Yeah, so
what do you? How do you feel
940
01:02:23.260 --> 01:02:30.250
about the the MIDIAN sacrifice ceremony.
I thought it was kind of stupid,
941
01:02:30.289 --> 01:02:31.969
to be honest with you. Pretty
Cheesy, right. Yeah, I do,
942
01:02:32.489 --> 01:02:36.650
even with the stuff with like crucifying
people and putting him on the cross
943
01:02:36.650 --> 01:02:39.889
as a Christian, like I just
don't like it. Man. I guess
944
01:02:39.929 --> 01:02:44.320
it was. I was okay with
it for this the Steve Austin part because
945
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:47.079
it just it added something to there, you know. And and you got
946
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:51.719
to admit the undertaker he wasn't saved
at the time. He fully admits that
947
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:55.000
and he comes out now he's consure
to save Christian born again. It was
948
01:02:55.159 --> 01:03:00.110
it was a gimmick that Vince mcman
pitched and, you know, undertake a
949
01:03:00.150 --> 01:03:02.829
ran with it and created what it
was for what it was and made it
950
01:03:02.909 --> 01:03:07.869
one of the most popular gimmicks of
all time. You know, we've talked
951
01:03:07.909 --> 01:03:15.139
about to nauseum the the disconnect Vince
mcmahan had with characters like that. I
952
01:03:15.179 --> 01:03:17.340
mean, you look at Damn Severn. He was trying to get him Dix,
953
01:03:17.980 --> 01:03:20.940
he's trying to get him to put
six, six, six on his
954
01:03:21.019 --> 01:03:28.489
forehead. I mean a UFC legitimate
badass. You know, it's a head
955
01:03:28.530 --> 01:03:31.530
scratcher, it's a head scratcher.
For Fuck's sakes, you got to wander,
956
01:03:31.570 --> 01:03:34.889
man. You're like, what would
what would go through your mind if
957
01:03:34.929 --> 01:03:36.969
you're going to blow that right there. You got it. Like I said,
958
01:03:37.210 --> 01:03:38.570
a legit Badass in you and you're
going to put six, six,
959
01:03:38.650 --> 01:03:43.960
six on his forehead and the guys
telling you that he's got religious beliefs that
960
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:46.079
are that are contrary to that,
you're trying to force them to do it.
961
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:50.519
Yeah, it was just, you
know, that's kind of Guy Vince
962
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:53.000
mentman is. I guess I don't
know. I'm just not big into those
963
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:57.909
types of things, with crucifying people
and just doing that shit, like it's
964
01:03:57.949 --> 01:04:00.030
just not for me. It's like
one of the things. I get it.
965
01:04:00.150 --> 01:04:02.389
I'm not like mad about it.
I want want to cancel anybody for
966
01:04:02.550 --> 01:04:05.150
me or anything. It's just not
my cup of tea, you know.
967
01:04:05.670 --> 01:04:10.300
It's just there's the time in a
place, but everything you and I can't
968
01:04:10.380 --> 01:04:14.019
argue that that. That was probably
the most one of the most iconic moments
969
01:04:14.099 --> 01:04:15.940
in the attitude or history. It
was sure as hell memorable, wasn't it
970
01:04:16.219 --> 01:04:18.820
awesome? Got Thrown up on that
thing and we were all just like what
971
01:04:19.059 --> 01:04:25.090
the fuck is twenty somebody years later
and we're still talking about it. Yeah,
972
01:04:25.289 --> 01:04:28.730
absolute obviously it was pretty fucking memorable. Right. They did something right,
973
01:04:28.809 --> 01:04:30.889
for sure. They did something right. Whether it was good, bad
974
01:04:30.929 --> 01:04:32.969
or in different the way you look
at it, they did it right.
975
01:04:33.130 --> 01:04:36.690
And Hey, we don't have to
like it for it to be a memorable
976
01:04:36.730 --> 01:04:40.840
moment. And it's like when he
was trying to you remember when he was
977
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:45.320
trying to embalm Austin in the on
the hard cold slab there? I don't
978
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.639
remember that. Actually, he don't
remember? Oh Man, no, I
979
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:53.789
don't remember that. I remember as
a kid being scared shitless when taker was
980
01:04:53.829 --> 01:04:57.309
like talking and tongues and Shit,
he's getting ready to Stab Boston. I
981
01:04:58.670 --> 01:05:01.389
was more of a see you know. The thing was I watched wwf and
982
01:05:01.510 --> 01:05:05.309
I watched and I would flip back
and forth, but most of the time,
983
01:05:05.349 --> 01:05:10.500
up until the end of WCW,
I was always rooting for WCW and
984
01:05:10.539 --> 01:05:13.579
I grew up a WWF guy.
I just love you. Were also a
985
01:05:13.659 --> 01:05:15.420
whole Cogan guy. Oh, wherever
hulk was that, I was going to
986
01:05:15.460 --> 01:05:20.489
be. And if I my number
two at that time was always sting yea,
987
01:05:20.570 --> 01:05:25.329
and when sting went dark on the
crow. I was hooked. I
988
01:05:25.769 --> 01:05:29.130
love it. Every week when sting
would come down. What was he going
989
01:05:29.210 --> 01:05:31.849
to do? You know, is
he here for the Nwo? Is he
990
01:05:31.929 --> 01:05:36.920
going to save WCW? Like that
had me hooked and yeah, I'm going
991
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.360
to watch a show every week.
At that point in time for me,
992
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.719
I was paying way more attention to
WCW, sure, but I would watch
993
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:46.199
and put back and forth. Not
Not that I wouldn't. I knew what
994
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:50.389
was going on. I just can't
remember all the little little intricacies of it
995
01:05:50.510 --> 01:05:55.510
just because I was glued to WCW. That's where it was. I was
996
01:05:55.590 --> 01:05:59.269
there for it. Yep, I
was a stone called guy through and through.
997
01:06:00.909 --> 01:06:04.619
Love Scott Hall, thought, thought
the World Scott Hall, and you
998
01:06:04.659 --> 01:06:08.219
don't know, I was one of
the ones that flip back and forth because
999
01:06:08.219 --> 01:06:14.659
I saw something, money product that
I absolutely love. So WCW lost me
1000
01:06:15.219 --> 01:06:18.969
for good, you know, probably
mid two thousand and stuff. If it's
1001
01:06:18.969 --> 01:06:23.130
just it was so stupid and water
down at that point. They weren't even
1002
01:06:23.130 --> 01:06:26.210
crazy. Thing was I was even
watching it then and was like man,
1003
01:06:26.250 --> 01:06:29.769
I'm going to I'm going to ride
this out. You know, you never
1004
01:06:29.809 --> 01:06:32.400
would have thought that they could have
completely fucked that company up in such a
1005
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:36.960
short period of time. No,
and then when they did, you know,
1006
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.760
I fully expected WWe to capitalize on
a lot of their talent and I
1007
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:46.630
was just like, man, how
do you let guys like Goldberg, like
1008
01:06:46.869 --> 01:06:54.710
Sting Ogan, Nash Hall, all
these it would have been the most incredible
1009
01:06:54.829 --> 01:07:00.789
time and wrestling history had they brought
him in right at that moment. DDP.
1010
01:07:00.230 --> 01:07:05.500
The way they used him was just
disgusting. One of the biggest misses
1011
01:07:05.579 --> 01:07:09.500
of that invasion angle was how they
handled it. It was the biggest.
1012
01:07:09.860 --> 01:07:12.739
It was the biggest compared to the
churches the came out. It was the
1013
01:07:12.820 --> 01:07:16.250
biggest miss. It always should have
been the people's Champ DPE of the beast,
1014
01:07:16.809 --> 01:07:20.769
of the rocky. Why would you
do that? Stalker Shit, yeah,
1015
01:07:20.849 --> 01:07:25.289
but put put the rock over even
like you know, put the rock
1016
01:07:25.369 --> 01:07:27.650
over you. Who Cares? But
do it that way. You know,
1017
01:07:28.570 --> 01:07:31.400
undertaker and Goldberg back in the day
would have been a fun fucking match to
1018
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:36.039
see. Would have been. It
would have been a cool match. Sting
1019
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:40.519
undertaker, who he's going to be, a match that I want to see.
1020
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:45.829
That will never get. That was
just just crazy matches. You could
1021
01:07:45.869 --> 01:07:49.630
have done. Here's mankind just held
undertaker's legs. So undertaker gets counted out.
1022
01:07:49.789 --> 01:07:54.389
British bulldog gets the victory here.
Now they're all beaten down. The
1023
01:07:54.429 --> 01:08:00.420
undertaker on the outside. Look a
man kind got a love mcfoley. Yeah,
1024
01:08:00.539 --> 01:08:04.619
me too. That was one of
my favorite shows we've ever done.
1025
01:08:04.659 --> 01:08:09.820
Last week was when we did the
you know, the mankind mcfoley Bass show,
1026
01:08:09.900 --> 01:08:12.659
where the Helen, the cell hell
SOS. Yeah, Oh yeah,
1027
01:08:12.780 --> 01:08:16.250
with undertaker and Sean and then mankind
and undertaker. What a fucking that was
1028
01:08:16.329 --> 01:08:20.409
some good wrestling last week and if
you guys like that, man, tune
1029
01:08:20.449 --> 01:08:23.609
into our next show. We're going
to you know, we're going to be
1030
01:08:23.729 --> 01:08:29.840
doing the the helm the cell matches
would triple h involve. So I love
1031
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:31.680
Helen, the cell matches that we've
been that we've been catching that, you
1032
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:34.000
know that last whine, and some
of the other ones we got coming up
1033
01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:39.000
here. Yep, those matches are
going to be incredible. Here is the
1034
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.310
mandible claw, one of the most
disgusting moves out there, though some guy
1035
01:08:42.390 --> 01:08:45.909
sticking his fucking fingers down your throat. It isn't. And the the leather
1036
01:08:46.029 --> 01:08:49.229
strap that they put over his two
fingers man. I'm like, how many
1037
01:08:49.390 --> 01:08:53.350
mouths was that him? Seriously,
I don't want to think about I'm a
1038
01:08:53.350 --> 01:08:56.819
little bit of a Germafope. So
yeah, I don't even want to think
1039
01:08:56.819 --> 01:08:59.739
about that one. Well, that
wraps up this show for tonight. My
1040
01:08:59.939 --> 01:09:01.579
friend. What are you think about
it? Thumbs up, thumbs down or
1041
01:09:01.619 --> 01:09:04.300
thumbs in the middle? On it, it was thumbs in the middle.
1042
01:09:04.460 --> 01:09:11.890
You know, I think the ultimate
warrior Promo was the drizzling shits. You
1043
01:09:11.970 --> 01:09:15.050
know, own hearts match is pretty
pretty, pretty dry as well with Yoka
1044
01:09:15.050 --> 01:09:18.210
Zona, and that was just based
off the Yoka Zona not being able to
1045
01:09:18.289 --> 01:09:23.609
do much. If this was a
Monday night raw that I was tuning into,
1046
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:28.439
the only thing worth any substance would
be the undertaker verse man kind here.
1047
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:32.760
Yeah, I gotta say I agree. I'm actually going to go a
1048
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.720
step farther here. Is I think
the show is kind of a thumbs down.
1049
01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:40.390
The matches. We're okay, they
weren't there. Weren't anything, you
1050
01:09:40.510 --> 01:09:43.909
know, great. I like the
man kind and undertaker thing at the end.
1051
01:09:43.949 --> 01:09:45.310
I think it's a good way to
have him get the loss and continue
1052
01:09:45.430 --> 01:09:48.109
on with this fute. You Go, Zoona look terrible out there. It
1053
01:09:48.189 --> 01:09:53.220
was sad to see. Yeah,
it was awful. Warriors Promo was fucking
1054
01:09:53.300 --> 01:09:57.020
terrible. The Guy was you could
just tell didn't Jerry, the King Waller,
1055
01:09:57.060 --> 01:10:00.060
is one of the great talkers of
the business to you know, he
1056
01:10:00.420 --> 01:10:02.180
couldn't even get that shit over and
men, you know, the warrior had
1057
01:10:02.300 --> 01:10:05.380
no interest in it and it fell
flat. For that reason it was just
1058
01:10:05.579 --> 01:10:11.130
stupid. Mark merrow always loved seeing
mark, but that match was skip was
1059
01:10:11.210 --> 01:10:14.489
like nobody thought skip was going to
fucking win that match. anyways, it
1060
01:10:14.609 --> 01:10:16.810
was just kind of just kind of
there. It wasn't a show that I
1061
01:10:16.890 --> 01:10:20.210
didn't enjoy watching, but in the
same in the same way, it wasn't
1062
01:10:20.210 --> 01:10:24.279
a show that was good or even
in the middle to me. So I
1063
01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:26.800
got to give it the thumbs down
on that one, just because I don't
1064
01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:30.239
think they elevated any storylines. They're
pressing this British bulldog Shawn Michael's thing.
1065
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:33.920
Where Shawn Michaels tonight? Why aren't
we seeing their you know, get into
1066
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:36.869
it with one another a hundred percent? You know, why do you leave
1067
01:10:36.909 --> 01:10:43.989
your main story line out right?
That's my opinion now. So absolutely well,
1068
01:10:43.989 --> 01:10:45.829
we hope everybody enjoyed it tonight.
We always have fun doing this for
1069
01:10:45.949 --> 01:10:50.340
you guys. We hope everybody's doing
well out there and once again will be
1070
01:10:50.500 --> 01:10:54.020
having all of our normal shows coming
out. They're just going to be on
1071
01:10:54.140 --> 01:10:57.739
more of a tape delay instead of, you know, instead of doing as
1072
01:10:57.779 --> 01:11:00.579
many live, but we're going to
have a few here and there. The
1073
01:11:00.699 --> 01:11:01.979
award show, now that's going to
be a fun show we're going to have
1074
01:11:02.060 --> 01:11:06.689
coming up by the end of the
year and pretty excited to welcome some new
1075
01:11:06.770 --> 01:11:12.649
hall of famers and some awards and
maybe some surprises that evening. I don't
1076
01:11:12.649 --> 01:11:15.090
know, it's going to be fun. It's going to be a really good
1077
01:11:15.090 --> 01:11:16.970
time. So don't worry. Over
the next couple weeks we got plenty of
1078
01:11:17.010 --> 01:11:20.319
great stuff in store for you guys, lots of Great Watch alongs, lots
1079
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:24.479
of fun topics. So just keep
checking it out, make sure you like
1080
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:27.359
and follow the page here and if
you're listening to this on audio, make
1081
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:30.720
sure you subscribe and whatever I'll let
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1082
01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:35.869
So for the real deal he will. Mr Richard ARD and I'm John Wygland.
1083
01:11:35.869 --> 01:11:40.109
We're signing off. Thanks for watching
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1084
01:11:40.189 --> 01:11:44.069
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