U.S. Open Coverage w/ Bobby Brown

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Welcome to Pol Hook, golf, the podcast hosted
by Matt Cook and Mike Perez.
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Welcome back,
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everybody, to Golden
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Gold Podcast I've got a special guest who, if
you've listened to, our episodes to date, Mr.
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Bobby Brown, everybody's familiar with you at
this point.
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You did the 3 part series with us in which Yes.
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I had to I had to, send you a little message to
say, hey, would you be interested in coming on
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to the show, talk a little bit about the US
Open.
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Obviously, you're there currently at the
country club at Brooke Law or, well, in in
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Brookline Massage shoots.
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I don't know exactly how they say it up there.
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I try to stay away from Boston as much as
possible as a Yankees fan.
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So, it is what it is.
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Bobby, welcome back, my friend.
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Thanks for having me.
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I I assume I get a pay raise and everything
because I'm kind
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of Oh, absolutely.
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Instead of, like, a guest this time, but I'm
I'm look I'm looking forward to it.
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I'm on your side.
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I turned down the Boston Red Sox game tonight
for a few minutes so I could hang out to my
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man.
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So I don't wanna say go yankees, but we do like
those
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pod breaks.
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There you go.
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The pod drags are fine.
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I mean, I I live down San Diego for a year.
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I was rooting for when I was out there.
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You know, they're kinda like Switzerland.
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They're just neutral.
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That's funny.
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We got off to a good start with you know, kinda
put it in the shitter late.
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So, hopefully I know.
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But you
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guys got a team this year.
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Yeah.
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You never know.
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It's baseball.
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Right?
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There's It really is.
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You know, everything.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I live in South Carolina, but I grew up
in SoCal.
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So, you know, everybody's Dodgers, Stagers,
Stagers, I was always angels and pod race.
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So hopefully, we'll have a, hopefully, we'll
have a pretty solid we'll have a pretty solid
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year.
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But, yeah, I'm super excited to be here.
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I'm, you know, I've been here for 3 or 4 days,
kinda myself into a tizzy on this golf course.
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Troy's played the last 2 days.
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Everybody's talking about, you know, winning
score and that kind of stuff.
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And I'm really, you know, I'm really confused.
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I have some, you know, some guys that, think
that somebody is going to shoot 6 7 under par
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tomorrow, which I personally don't, yeah, which
I personally don't see, you know, and, and, you
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know, even a couple guys were talking about oh,
you know, maybe the score is going to be at 8
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or 9 under after 2 days and then things will
firm up and that kind of stuff and the scores
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will come back down.
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Buttsy know, it's, man, it's a pretty iconic
place.
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I gotta tell you.
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It's the first time I've ever been here on this
property.
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We all know the history, you know, the history
on 17.
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Tell you something unique that I didn't know
about this golf course.
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It's actually 27 holes I read.
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Really?
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And and yeah.
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And and they've kind of And I did read that
every USGA championship they've had here,
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they've never used the same 18 whole routing.
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They've always added 2 or 3 or 4 different
holes from different courses.
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So that's, that's pretty interesting.
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I think that, yeah, I think from, you know,
working for a guy like Troy Mara, which is you
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know, is a top 100, pretty solid top, always in
the top 100 in the world and that kind of
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stuff.
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I'll say that.
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I'm not really tipped around this, but you just
got the feeling after you walk golf courses
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that these these championships are designed for
those elite players that can really carry it a
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long way.
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And, I'm pretty convinced you got to drive a
good out here although was a pretty generous
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for US Open.
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It's a mixed bag off the tee, honestly.
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I can see some big numbers out there, but I see
the big numbers coming from Well, usually big
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numbers from US opens come from guys to get out
of position and try and hit hero shots, you
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know, and they somehow in the whole pressure
thing, you kind of think you can pull a shot
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off and It just gets back to the old saying
that Bobby never kill you this week.
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You know, you make 3 or 4 bogeys of days.
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It's certainly not the end of the world.
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It's the doubles and the triples and the others
that could steamroll you, but I can see some
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custom of these elite bombers maybe, you know,
going after a few.
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Because Mikey I said, it's a mixed bag of bulls
or some short holes Some of these guys are
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probably gonna crack at and stuff like that.
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And and, those holes, those shorter holes are,
are definitely a little bit claustrophobic.
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You know, and there's, there's a lot of big,
huge fescue out here.
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The greens are severely tilted from, from back
to Brown.
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So, you know, there's limited pin positions.
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We'll probably see a lot of pins on top of each
other a couple days and that kind of stuff.
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And, fortunately, we go up at 707 tomorrow
morning.
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And, bright
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and early
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bright and early, which is good for us because
wind projections are supposed to hit over
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twenty miles hour sometime in the afternoon.
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So maybe if we can get off to a good start, you
know, you, you just want to hit the first one.
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You just want to hit the first one in the
fairway of and go from there.
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And you're pretty mentally exhausted after the,
at the end of the day.
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And thank goodness, I'm not hitting any shots,
you know, but I'll be there trying to, you
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know, I'm pretty pretty conservative caddy in
my old age, especially doing probably 14 or 15
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of these things now, and and you just take what
the golf course gives you so lot of excitement
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here in Boston, my man.
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A lot of excitement, you know, fans are passed.
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I mean, they're like New York fans.
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Right?
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I I I You know, they're past.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the fact that being a Yankees
fan, right, that I don't like Boston and so
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forth, but I can appreciate Boston.
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Like, those fans are just like New Yorkers
where they give all of their passion behind the
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sport and everything.
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And, I mean, even just seeing, like, in the
practice rounds already.
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Like, they're already rowdy.
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Oh, we heard of we we played, we played
yesterday.
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We teed off about a 145 yesterday, and And,
they are not fast practice rounds out here.
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And That's
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what I heard.
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For some of the qualifiers and that kind of
stuff, it can give it a little bit of annoying
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for guys who've been around for a while because
kinda like family day out there in practice
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rounds.
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You got girlfriends and family members and
dads.
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And and, you know, it's funny.
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I I was following, before Troy got in Brown,
seeing what's Monday I was following Burger and
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Zander Brown, and there was a couple other
qualifiers believed in their group.
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And at one point, I was standing on a Brown,
and I'm like, oh my god, there's 27 people out
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here for a four foursome.
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So it's hard to get a lot of work done as a
caddy and that kind of stuff, you know, but
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when, when push comes to shove, it's still
cough, right?
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It's still cough.
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Nothing really changes.
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It's just a massive burst.
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With a tough set up and tough conditions.
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So we're excited to, get it going.
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Hopefully, hopefully, we can put the first one
in the fairway.
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The first hole out there is is 499.
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It's a big dog, big, right to left.
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It's probably the most simple driving hole
picking out a target and that kind of stuff.
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You know?
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So hopefully we get the bus rolling.
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I will tell you there.
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I've never been to a golf course like this
where there's so many blind approach shots if
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you get stuck on one side of therapy.
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Yeah.
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There's gotta be a half a there's gotta be a
half a dozen.
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Of them out here, you know, where if you, you
get a drive that's pretty much right center or
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just a fraction left center.
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And I guess I'm probably emphasizing more
number 3 than anywhere else.
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The 3 is is like that where you can hit a right
center, a little bit left center, and you're,
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you, and you're blocked by these bounds.
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You can't kinda make a little hike up the hill
and get your, get your bearings where you want
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to hit in that kind of stuff.
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But really for Mikey, for, for my team, we're
just thinking about You know, he's not a super
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bomber or anything like that.
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He just kind of, he just kind of plods along
and, and, you know, doesn't really make any bad
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decisions, honestly.
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And it really, it's, hitting it in the middle
of the green here because you can't really put
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any tuck any pins in too many corners and that
kind of stuff.
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So, so getting pretty excited
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for them.
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Mean, it's gonna be interesting.
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Now why is it that some of the some of your
fellow counties are talking about the fact that
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they're thinking 8, 9, under some early rounds
getting in at those numbers.
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I have a couple of friendly wagers with a
couple of caddies that who who threw out that
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seven number at me.
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And then I'm like, I will tell you this when
you get when I get to a new golf course
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personally, and I think a lot of veteran
caddies are like this.
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You walk around this golf course for 2 days
trying to learn it, cramming for a test without
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seeing anybody really playing.
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And you're like, oh my god.
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This thing is so hard.
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But then all of a sudden you get the varsity
out there hitting shots and you're like, oh,
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yeah, I forgot.
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These are the best players in the world.
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And speaking of watching Zander play, I watched
him play 9 holes the other day, and I'm, I
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kinda, kind of like his chances a little bit
this week to tell you the truth.
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You know, he is, you know, he's a shot Mikey.
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He shapes.
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He curves it in.
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Little little like Tiger.
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He he Buttsy proper trajectory and the proper
curve on it and that kind of stuff.
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And he's got, you know, he's had a county that
he played Austin, that he played college golf
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with.
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Who, who, man, this guy's a good county, right?
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He's super prepared.
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He's super confident.
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Almost like he's overcome.
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He's got a little chip on his shoulder, but he
knows stuff, and he knows his man and Xander.
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And I'm really impressed with this Caddy
Austin.
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And I don't say that a lot about Caddies
because we're just kind of secondary in that
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kind of stuff,
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you
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know, but but I look for them, I look for them
to have a, a pretty solid week to tell you the
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truth, a really solid week.
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And obviously, you're elite players Mikey like
Joan Raham and JT's obviously playing great and
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that kind of stuff.
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I think this week in this tournament, you
always get a kind of a sneaker up there, you
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know, for 2 or 2 or 3 days.
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I wish I would be nice if it was Troy to tell
you the truth, but I don't get too far ahead of
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myself, like I said.
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So we're getting we're getting ready to go.
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How is his name right now?
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Who, Troy?
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Yeah.
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Or or of the No.
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Troy.
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He's he's fine.
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Making a ton.
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Just making a ton of cuts in mid pack.
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He certainly you know, didn't have his a stay.
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Didn't have a very good day, Sunday at
Memorial.
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We were off.
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We were we took last week off.
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He likes to play about 3 in a row max.
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Who could serve his energy.
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And obviously, he's a big family guy, and he's
been doing this for a whole while.
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So, you know, it's it's it's good.
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I mean, know, I hope he doesn't watch this, but
my guy's a horrible Tuesday, Wednesday player.
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He's probably, like, the worst on tour, and
then something happens on Thursday, and he just
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pumps one down the middle, and he's, like I
said before, I'm
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The showtime.
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Yeah.
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He is by far.
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He is by far the the best Potter that I've
worked with her.
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And, you know, I've worked for some talent
before
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Oh, yeah.
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For sure.
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But he's by far the best putter I've ever
worked for.
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So that's kind of his that's kind of his deal.
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The short game should be interesting around
Perez, the the rust pretty brutal.
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All there's one side, you know, it's telling
you the way these greens tilt.
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Well, they also tilt left to right or right to
left.
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So there's one side that if you get out of that
you can miss on and you probably got a
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fiftyfifty chance, but short games usually get
exposed out here other than the elite guys and
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that kind of stuff.
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And that's another reason why I Mikey standard
a little bit I watched him chip around here
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quite a bit.
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You know what I mean?
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He know, he knows how to control his
trajectory.
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He's really good at identifying lies, how
they're going to come out of here.
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But with that being said, this is a whole
different This is a whole different kind of
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rough.
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You know, sometimes you have bail out bunkers
in these, on these, on these hold.
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There's not a lot of bail out bunkers that are
good.
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Some of them are very very low compared to the
green complexes and that kind of stuff.
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And, you know, these old, these old school
tracks, you know, I think that what this, this
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track was built in 18 93 year or something like
that.
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Something crazy.
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I don't
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know the exact date, but it goes way back.
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It goes way back.
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I mean, we met.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, yeah, there you go.
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It's funny.
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I saw his house.
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We were, they, they take pretty good care of
us, counties.
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We park a little bit off campus at Holy Cross.
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College.
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And then they kind of shuttle us in.
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I'm like, where's that house?
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Where's that house?
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And I actually got to, I got to see it today,
and it's pretty, I mean, it's it's pretty
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special to be here.
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You know, I was telling you about these bunkers
because I'm looking at them behind you, but
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it's funny.
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It's like you, if you look on paper or your
yarder's book, you're Mikey, Okay.
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This bunker's okay to this pin, and that's kind
of my job early in the week.
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I I wanna find out where you can play from when
you get out of position.
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Where can you play from?
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And usually bunkers could save you Buttsy I
don't think this week, that's going to be much
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because I feel like these old school courses,
when you get these bunkers, when you get over
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the lips onto the Brown, I feel like there's
all these years of sand build up.
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Does that make any sense where these clouds and
they all run away from you and, and that kind
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of stuff.
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So, you know, you just, you just gotta be smart
owner.
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I have a host thought, you know, from the 1st 2
days, I looked at this and I Mikey, man, could
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could even paw, could even par when this thing
But I, I'm not sure if I'm being legit on that
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or not because these screens are so tilted and
so slow that they can't get them super duper.
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Super duper fast.
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You know?
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Well, if
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they were back in the day when you couldn't cut
greens that low.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it's Poe.
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It's Old School Poe, which a guy like me love,
cause I grew up in California.
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So Poe is, you know, not that I ever get called
in about once every quarter or something unless
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we're in Pammell or Tory or Riv or something
like that.
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You know, stuff.
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So, like, you're probably gonna have some guys
putting them off greens here, you know,
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randomly occasionally and stuff like that.
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So you know, it's a big, as you know, it's a
lot going on in golf right now.
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I'm not a lot lot of luck.
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A lot of talk going on.
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Can I say something?
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Can I say something?
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Didn't look Mikey a lit, didn't I am the
biggest golf nerd?
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I can tell you who the been calling, coming
college guys are, and who the one that North
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South and this, I didn't look at the
leaderboard one time for the for the lift.
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No.
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And I
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mean, that's the elephant in the room.
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Right?
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I mean, I love what Brooks ended up doing in
his press conference.
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Do you
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see what he did?
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He basically called out the media on Yeah.
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Just putting a black cloud over the US Open.
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We're playing the US Open game.
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Yeah.
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Like, this is a major championship.
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Why in the hell are we talking about the live
golf tone?
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Mikey, that happened last week.
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Who cares at this point?
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And
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that's where, like, this rhetoric and thing
that's been going on.
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But I wanna get your edged sword.
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Is he hiding something?
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Because his little brother played in full on
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the Monday.
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You could tell that the journalist wanted
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to go.
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Did he go?
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Did he send his brother over there to kinda
scope it out and kinda piggyback him?
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And I
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think about it.
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Him and DJ used to be boys.
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Right?
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Well, they used to be boys and not very close
anymore.
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I would tell you.
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Buttsy they both love lifestyle.
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And, I mean, I can take that a little bit
further, but they're, yeah, they both their
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their families both love life now.
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There's no doubt.
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No doubt about that.
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To me, my whole opinion on on that kind of
thing is, you know, I think it's a cash grab to
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tell you the truth.
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I mean, if somebody, I've never walked a day in
these guys' shoes before, you know what I mean?
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Buttsy if somebody said, Hey, we're gonna pay
you a $100 and some $1,000,000 to come play
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here.
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I mean, man, you gotta think about that.
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For sure.
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You know what I mean?
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I mean, that's a life life changing deal.
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And, I mean, I heard Rom at his press
conference go, you know, I've sat down and
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talked about it with my wife, which means he
thought about it.
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Right?
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Means he legitimately sat down and goes, hey.
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If we get an offer, which he probably got an
offer, I mean, I would imagine he got it being
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I'm sure
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he what?
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I he's Joan Rah on what him.
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You know, one of the, you know, could win in 10
or 15 years from now.
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I mean, for sure, he's gonna be a hall of fame
guy, right?
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I mean, could be sneaky, one of the top 10, 15
best players to ever to ever play the game.
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I know he's been a little bit off foreign
lately, and that can stuff.
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He should some signs of life with a Buttsy.
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I saw some stats about, a memorial where he put
it pretty good at memorial where he always
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seems to play play pretty good, but there's a
Man, there's a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a
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lot of talking going, a lot of talking going on
there.
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I heard they tear you the caddy's great over
there.
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All it's fences paid.
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Oh my gosh.
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That's what Mister Short Game.
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So we had Mister Short Game on.
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He's a YouTube sensation.
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He teaches short game, obviously, hence, the
name, Mister Short game, but he's got a huge
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following, and he was over there.
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He he went to the first event.
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Yeah.
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And he said, just the way that they treated all
of counties was unreal Yeah.
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With just Mikey and and there is.
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There's Mikey a level of ritziness kinda class
to it.
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That it's, like, interesting to see, right,
that it's, like, you don't get that every week
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in and out with the PGA Tour.
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Buttsy, again, I I wanna go back to what Raham
said where he was talking about the fact that
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$400,000,000, if you gave me that amount of
money, which I don't know where he came up with
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that figure from.
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Maybe he was offered $400,000,000, but he said
my lifestyle after Taco and my wife, like, I
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could retire now and be fine with my lifestyle.
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And that is where if you want a glamorous rich
lifestyle where you're staying, at 5 Star
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Hotels all the time.
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You wanna buy a yacht.
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You want the Connor McGregor type of money,
then, yeah, you're gonna go take that money.
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But if you don't live that lifestyle, then
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Yeah.
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You're not going to take the heat that's coming
with all of the rhetoric around it being a
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moral issue and everything.
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Along those lines.
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And I don't wanna get so far into the political
side to the entire debate.
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Right?
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Exactly.
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It it's not mine either.
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I try to stay away from it as much as possible.
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More of a realist.
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Right?
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I I I kinda look at it Mikey, wow.
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Everybody does business there.
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Like, so what if these guys are going over?
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They're golfers.
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Like, this is a business decision.
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For them at the end of the day, they're not
thinking of the overall consequences.
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And actually Mikey one argument to that is
people are pissed off with how much money
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they're getting.
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And then on top of that, they're mad that it's
coming from Saudi Arabian is going to benefit
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them.
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Think about how much debt they're gonna go into
for how many years, and then this tour might
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not even be successful.
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Yeah.
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Well, it there's a lot of question marks,
right?
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There's a lot of question marks.
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I did like what John John said because He seems
a little more grounded than some of the other
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guys.
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Obviously, there's a target demographic that
they're know what I mean?
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You get your little sportsbook.
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Yeah.
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Well, they're going out their names, but you,
you know, you got shorts who want shorts over 1
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last week.
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You're talking about mid 40 something guys who
really aren't that I mean, you could say who
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moves to Hazen's a great player out here in
that stuff, but I'm pretty sure he's never won
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an event on the PGA Tour other than, you know,
St.
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Andrews, which is, I guess, considered still,
you know, it's one of our majors and that kind
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of stuff, but it it's he's always seems to be
close and then
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the nags.
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He's always hanging around.
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You know, the old boss, my old boss, Dustin, I
mean, bless his heart.
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He really hasn't been relevant out here.
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I hate to sing it in the last 2 years.
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He hasn't, he hasn't done much.
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I mean, he won the 2020 November Masters and
that kind of stuff.
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And I just feel personally for him, the
lifestyle that he lives, it was probably a no
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brainer, decision.
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It's kind of tweaked a little bit when he came
out at Riviera and said, known's obligation as
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to the PGA Tour.
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I personally kind of read through that right
off the bat because, you know, if if the number
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of a 100 or a 125,000,000, which I don't know
what they paid them is is, is is Yeah.
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I think it was the 125.
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And then you've got 200.
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Yeah.
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I mean, come on.
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I mean, jeez Louise, that's just that's some
kind of Mikey, but my point is it's it's it's
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Dustin Johnson.
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So my theory on him is, yes, he hasn't been
relevant for 2 years you're talking about a guy
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that was one of the greatest players of all
time who was a dominant number one player for a
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long time, but Buttsy he's getting on.
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I don't want to say he's getting up there.
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He's going to be 37 or 38 now, but to to to
hold that position, man, you gotta keep working
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the way you were working before.
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And and maybe I think he just got to that point
where it's like, man, I'm not gonna I'm not
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gonna do it anymore.
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I got 2 little boys at home.
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I wanna spend some time at home.
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Granted, he never played more than 20 events
with his elite status.
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You know, and the whole I will tell you one
thing.
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I don't buy.
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I don't buy the bullshit of growing the game.
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I don't buy that one bit.
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I I that's my own personal pin.
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Here's the only thing that I will argue against
that is that I've had people and I haven't,
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like, I started golf late.
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I do a lot of other stuff within sports, like,
outside of golf, that I have a lot of friends
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that do not play golf.
467
00:19:46,580 --> 00:19:50,680
And so all of a sudden, they're coming to me
asking me, what does this live golf tour?
468
00:19:51,059 --> 00:19:52,580
And I'm like, wow.
469
00:19:52,580 --> 00:19:56,275
Where do you wanna begin with like, well, I
just keep hearing it on the news, blah blah
470
00:19:56,275 --> 00:19:56,434
blah.
471
00:19:56,434 --> 00:20:01,960
And then I I've had a bunch of buddies actually
tune into that bra and they're like, dude, this
472
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,840
is like a sport.
473
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,120
Like, this is like a real sport.
474
00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:10,284
And I I, of course, the the golf side to me is
like, oh, that that is a like, that hurts a
475
00:20:10,284 --> 00:20:12,944
little bit, but knowing that they're not
golfers.
476
00:20:13,164 --> 00:20:16,765
They don't go out and play golf, but they're
like, oh, there's a draft to it.
477
00:20:16,765 --> 00:20:17,650
There's teams.
478
00:20:17,950 --> 00:20:19,150
It's fast moving.
479
00:20:19,150 --> 00:20:21,549
Like, we're always getting some type of action.
480
00:20:21,549 --> 00:20:26,115
And there was no people I was re heard there
was nobody in the stands, like, the 1st day
481
00:20:26,275 --> 00:20:26,595
there.
482
00:20:26,595 --> 00:20:27,394
You know what I mean?
483
00:20:27,394 --> 00:20:27,634
What they
484
00:20:27,634 --> 00:20:28,035
told me?
485
00:20:28,035 --> 00:20:28,595
I watched
486
00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:29,394
it the first day.
487
00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:31,654
I can't say that I remember
488
00:20:31,954 --> 00:20:32,115
Yeah.
489
00:20:32,316 --> 00:20:37,460
Mikey, going, oh, there's nobody in there, but
also at the same time, I I don't recall, like,
490
00:20:37,460 --> 00:20:38,676
they're being huge Brown.
491
00:20:39,140 --> 00:20:44,105
And then that's to be expected, right, for for
the first event of a brand new tour.
492
00:20:44,105 --> 00:20:47,625
But at the same time, like, that's the only
thing that I see to where I'm like, hang on a
493
00:20:47,625 --> 00:20:48,125
second.
494
00:20:48,345 --> 00:20:54,619
If we keep going down this path, because I've
I've said it from the beginning that I really
495
00:20:54,619 --> 00:21:00,539
feel like Jay made the wrong decision when it
came to actually acknowledging this tour and
496
00:21:00,539 --> 00:21:02,454
acknowledging that they were a threat.
497
00:21:02,454 --> 00:21:07,335
And then battling against them and drawing the
line in the sand because all that did is build
498
00:21:07,335 --> 00:21:12,660
up all this press and media to where now
everybody, even non golfers, know what this
499
00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:13,720
golf tour is.
500
00:21:13,779 --> 00:21:16,500
They have literally done the marketing for
them.
501
00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:25,144
And then on top of that, you have a brand new
league that just could have never risen this
502
00:21:25,204 --> 00:21:26,825
fast and furious.
503
00:21:27,285 --> 00:21:34,690
And I don't think the players not not DJ, for
instance, but, like, a Brown, like, the there's
504
00:21:34,909 --> 00:21:40,085
there's enough there that you could tell that
they were a little disgruntled a little bit
505
00:21:40,085 --> 00:21:43,005
with how they're treated within the PGA Tour
and so forth Yeah.
506
00:21:43,125 --> 00:21:44,325
To where they're like, you know what?
507
00:21:44,325 --> 00:21:45,464
I'm taking this money.
508
00:21:45,569 --> 00:21:46,369
I I'm heading out.
509
00:21:46,369 --> 00:21:46,929
Like, yeah.
510
00:21:46,929 --> 00:21:50,369
I I'm gonna go build something else Perez.
511
00:21:50,369 --> 00:21:52,149
And then and you know what?
512
00:21:52,450 --> 00:21:57,494
I I am at my horror, a PGA Tour guy.
513
00:21:57,634 --> 00:22:00,295
And I'm like, I've been saying it from a hit
go.
514
00:22:00,515 --> 00:22:05,460
The reason why I feel like Jay made a mistake
is because there won't be another PGA Tour.
515
00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:10,119
This is not the PGA Tour breaking away in 1968
from the PGA.
516
00:22:10,694 --> 00:22:11,194
Yeah.
517
00:22:11,335 --> 00:22:11,494
Yeah.
518
00:22:11,494 --> 00:22:13,494
And I know that there's still tensions there.
519
00:22:13,494 --> 00:22:13,815
Right?
520
00:22:13,815 --> 00:22:17,890
I mean, even in the PGA, go through that
program, they teach it.
521
00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:22,549
They teach how bitter they are as to, like, the
PG tour for breaking away.
522
00:22:22,930 --> 00:22:27,190
And I look at this entire dynamic that's going
on, and it's become polarizing.
523
00:22:27,505 --> 00:22:28,565
It's become political.
524
00:22:28,705 --> 00:22:31,184
It's become polarizing to where you have to
pick a side.
525
00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:35,025
You can't sit in the middle, and that's where
I'm like, I wanna sit in the middle.
526
00:22:35,025 --> 00:22:36,164
I wanna watch both.
527
00:22:36,519 --> 00:22:39,579
Because you got guys that, like, are riding off
into the sunset.
528
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,839
You got somebody like, Mikey's been saying it
for weeks without even talking to his brother
529
00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:45,474
about it.
530
00:22:45,474 --> 00:22:49,875
About the fact that he's like, hey, if Pat's
offered something, I bet you, he's gonna take
531
00:22:49,875 --> 00:22:50,115
it.
532
00:22:50,115 --> 00:22:50,994
And he's gonna go.
533
00:22:50,994 --> 00:22:52,855
Let's talk and and let's talk.
534
00:22:53,075 --> 00:22:56,019
You know, obviously me and him don't get them
that well.
535
00:22:56,019 --> 00:22:57,140
I'm just gonna leave it at that.
536
00:22:57,140 --> 00:23:03,494
Obviously, we don't get along that well, but I
think his whole deal was, you know, I mean, the
537
00:23:03,494 --> 00:23:08,615
way he shelled Phil like that, the way he went
on on on Cole's podcast and talked about our
538
00:23:08,615 --> 00:23:12,700
great PGA tour, and that gonna I mean, fucking
$3 bill, phony fuck.
539
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:16,779
Give me a fucking break if of all people, if
they're gonna throw money at you, he's gonna be
540
00:23:16,779 --> 00:23:19,474
the fucking first one to go because he's in
that demographic.
541
00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:22,335
He's life and death to keep his part the last 2
years.
542
00:23:22,335 --> 00:23:25,315
The champion's tour is not right around the
corner for him.
543
00:23:25,859 --> 00:23:27,460
He lives a, you know, it's
544
00:23:27,460 --> 00:23:28,119
a lifestyle.
545
00:23:28,180 --> 00:23:28,579
Yeah.
546
00:23:28,579 --> 00:23:29,619
Well, I mean, he lives.
547
00:23:29,619 --> 00:23:32,180
I mean, honestly, I'll just pull a speed away
that I say it.
548
00:23:32,180 --> 00:23:35,924
I mean, he tries to live a lifestyle of Dustin
Johnson Mikey He's nowhere near, and he's
549
00:23:35,924 --> 00:23:37,625
really, and he's really nowhere.
550
00:23:37,765 --> 00:23:39,125
He's really nowhere near that.
551
00:23:39,125 --> 00:23:40,565
I mean, he's not a fabulous breeze.
552
00:23:40,565 --> 00:23:44,309
He's kept his car for 20 some years and that
kind of stuff, but Buttsy like I said, he was
553
00:23:44,309 --> 00:23:46,389
under heavy stress to keep his card last year.
554
00:23:46,389 --> 00:23:50,389
So it was probably it was probably an easy, you
know, he likes to spend money.
555
00:23:50,389 --> 00:23:51,750
His family likes to spend money.
556
00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:52,730
He's probably needed.
557
00:23:52,924 --> 00:23:57,085
Probably, you know, probably a no brainer for
him, you know, to go.
558
00:23:57,085 --> 00:23:58,365
Not only that, but when he went
559
00:23:58,365 --> 00:24:01,150
on sub par and said the things, you know, it
was out of spite for Phil.
560
00:24:01,150 --> 00:24:01,869
You know what I mean?
561
00:24:01,869 --> 00:24:02,269
It's like Yeah.
562
00:24:02,269 --> 00:24:04,589
That, obviously, there's a personal deal that
you can go to.
563
00:24:04,589 --> 00:24:04,830
Right?
564
00:24:04,830 --> 00:24:06,670
That's that that's why that that is.
565
00:24:06,670 --> 00:24:08,349
And that's his, you know, everything.
566
00:24:08,349 --> 00:24:09,724
He made that very obvious.
567
00:24:09,884 --> 00:24:11,244
Well, he, very obvious.
568
00:24:11,244 --> 00:24:13,005
Any any, he he can do that.
569
00:24:13,005 --> 00:24:13,724
You know what I mean?
570
00:24:13,724 --> 00:24:16,605
That's his that's kind of his that's kind of
his deal.
571
00:24:16,605 --> 00:24:19,529
I mean, he was the bad Bobby, the PG for the
longest time.
572
00:24:19,529 --> 00:24:19,849
Yeah.
573
00:24:19,849 --> 00:24:20,009
He
574
00:24:20,009 --> 00:24:21,049
was saying kinda rained
575
00:24:21,049 --> 00:24:21,769
with it.
576
00:24:21,769 --> 00:24:22,089
Yeah.
577
00:24:22,089 --> 00:24:27,714
He kind of, you know, he almost got the sense
that he was gonna be a really good PGA to a
578
00:24:27,714 --> 00:24:32,035
player, but he was never gonna be that that
level that he he wanted to be.
579
00:24:32,035 --> 00:24:38,400
So there's other ways to be relevant or
important if I'm saying that the right way, you
580
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,519
know, and that kind of stuff.
581
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:43,705
So, you know, all all the power to him, he can
go over there and he's gonna get his cash and
582
00:24:43,705 --> 00:24:47,705
he's going to be playing, you know, he's going
to be playing for a lot of cash and you're only
583
00:24:47,705 --> 00:24:51,785
playing against 40 guys and he's still a good
enough player if he gets it going and that kind
584
00:24:51,785 --> 00:24:57,150
of stuff that he he Mikey something to say
about 1 or 2 of those tournaments, to be honest
585
00:24:57,150 --> 00:24:59,150
with you, you know, that's, you know, there's I
586
00:24:59,150 --> 00:25:00,529
think he'll win over there.
587
00:25:00,734 --> 00:25:03,554
Well, out here, I'll bet you a dollar, he
doesn't.
588
00:25:03,615 --> 00:25:04,514
But, alright.
589
00:25:05,054 --> 00:25:07,075
But that's just, that's just me.
590
00:25:07,729 --> 00:25:11,990
Buttsy over, you know, over here with all this
influx and this coming of this young talent
591
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:16,825
coming up and and that kind of stuff, man, when
you're in a 144 man field over here, there
592
00:25:16,984 --> 00:25:20,904
there's really a 139 guys that can win at any
time.
593
00:25:20,904 --> 00:25:25,420
You know, the Brown the talent pools is is very
deep, and it's probably 10%.
594
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,200
You know, there's probably a handful of guys,
you know, but who knows who knows who's going
595
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:30,440
next?
596
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:30,839
It's funny.
597
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:32,335
I saw one of your posts and stuff.
598
00:25:32,335 --> 00:25:36,914
I thought you said you're like, hey, you know,
room around the campfire is there's another
599
00:25:37,215 --> 00:25:37,455
tenant.
600
00:25:37,455 --> 00:25:38,575
There's another twelve.
601
00:25:38,575 --> 00:25:41,089
And we're starting to hear that of this week.
602
00:25:41,089 --> 00:25:41,409
I know.
603
00:25:41,409 --> 00:25:41,730
I'm What's
604
00:25:41,730 --> 00:25:42,369
your info?
605
00:25:42,369 --> 00:25:43,089
What have you got
606
00:25:43,089 --> 00:25:43,730
behind me?
607
00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:47,669
I'm actually I'm actually hearing that it's
gonna be 16 out of the top 50.
608
00:25:47,674 --> 00:25:48,975
I don't believe 16.
609
00:25:49,355 --> 00:25:50,654
I don't believe 16.
610
00:25:50,795 --> 00:25:51,535
No chance.
611
00:25:51,674 --> 00:25:52,235
Plus, how
612
00:25:52,235 --> 00:25:53,115
are you going how
613
00:25:53,115 --> 00:25:54,315
are you gonna do it, though?
614
00:25:54,315 --> 00:25:56,130
Like, they already have their team set up.
615
00:25:56,269 --> 00:25:59,670
Mikey and and this is one of the interesting
things about this entire dynamic.
616
00:25:59,730 --> 00:26:01,329
Like, I don't know.
617
00:26:01,329 --> 00:26:05,214
Like, they might have jumped the gun on this
whole draft and having teams thing because
618
00:26:05,294 --> 00:26:09,855
Like, how are you all of a sudden gonna start
bringing in all of these other guys?
619
00:26:09,855 --> 00:26:11,234
So I get that it's logistics.
620
00:26:11,454 --> 00:26:12,335
What does that do?
621
00:26:12,335 --> 00:26:15,289
So I he played over played over there last
week.
622
00:26:15,289 --> 00:26:16,730
He's been injured for 2 years.
623
00:26:16,730 --> 00:26:19,130
It's a kid that won the US AM Handy Oval
Street.
624
00:26:19,130 --> 00:26:19,369
Yep.
625
00:26:19,369 --> 00:26:20,569
Who played at Georgia Tech?
626
00:26:20,569 --> 00:26:23,345
I played for him We, we were at Sony this year.
627
00:26:23,345 --> 00:26:24,865
We were, I was over there already.
628
00:26:24,865 --> 00:26:26,065
Troy was gonna come play.
629
00:26:26,065 --> 00:26:26,944
He got COVID.
630
00:26:26,944 --> 00:26:27,825
His wife got COVID.
631
00:26:27,825 --> 00:26:29,140
The whole family did.
632
00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:30,839
And Ogle Tree Monday qualified.
633
00:26:31,059 --> 00:26:35,059
And I got and his agent called me, and I
carried for him over there.
634
00:26:35,059 --> 00:26:36,580
And he wasn't healthy, and he played great.
635
00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:40,134
The 1st station on 4 or 5 under didn't have a
very good day second day, missed a couple of
636
00:26:40,134 --> 00:26:40,375
shots.
637
00:26:40,375 --> 00:26:44,134
But I can tell you for 2 days, I'm like, this
fucking guy, and he finished last, right?
638
00:26:44,134 --> 00:26:47,910
And I'm like, this, and I've seen some good,
you know, talent over the last 15 years.
639
00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:50,470
Think I'm almost an expert on picking off.
640
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:54,490
And I'm like, god, this kid is gonna be around
a long time, but he's got some back issues.
641
00:26:54,924 --> 00:27:00,205
So Ogletree, the kid that won nationals, from
Clamps and Turquetta was over there.
642
00:27:00,205 --> 00:27:00,365
Yeah.
643
00:27:00,365 --> 00:27:03,565
What does that do to those guys now that
there's more players coming in?
644
00:27:03,565 --> 00:27:05,779
Do they get on top of there right now?
645
00:27:05,779 --> 00:27:06,279
No.
646
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:09,059
There's nothing that has said anything.
647
00:27:09,059 --> 00:27:13,160
Did this Turkish just burn his his conditional
corn, failing to your status?
648
00:27:13,525 --> 00:27:14,724
Over this whole thing.
649
00:27:14,724 --> 00:27:20,085
If it's a one and done for, let's say, you got
250,000 to go play and he made another buck 20
650
00:27:20,085 --> 00:27:22,005
or a buck 50 or whatever they had.
651
00:27:22,005 --> 00:27:23,304
I didn't screw it over.
652
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:24,250
Yeah.
653
00:27:24,309 --> 00:27:24,549
Yeah.
654
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:27,829
Maybe jumping the gun a little bit, or is he
gonna is he gonna stay?
655
00:27:27,829 --> 00:27:28,730
Are these fields?
656
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:30,089
Are they gonna get bigger?
657
00:27:30,444 --> 00:27:31,085
You know,
658
00:27:31,085 --> 00:27:33,265
I'm But they're teams and it's a shotgun.
659
00:27:33,964 --> 00:27:35,164
Throw some names at me.
660
00:27:35,164 --> 00:27:36,464
Who did you hear?
661
00:27:36,525 --> 00:27:37,085
Did you hear?
662
00:27:37,085 --> 00:27:38,500
Are you glad say what you
663
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:38,900
need to do.
664
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:38,980
I'm
665
00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:40,740
not right now, but it
666
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:43,299
the the well allowed to say either.
667
00:27:43,299 --> 00:27:46,599
Well, we we released as soon as we heard about
PAC.
668
00:27:46,894 --> 00:27:51,554
That that was released immediately, aside on
scene.
669
00:27:51,694 --> 00:27:53,554
So we released that one immediately.
670
00:27:53,694 --> 00:27:54,194
Yeah.
671
00:27:54,654 --> 00:28:01,769
A lot of this Mikey, and that was after that I
knew for certain that he signed the contract.
672
00:28:01,910 --> 00:28:03,029
So, like, that was Don.
673
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:05,634
It was in Like, everybody else is kinda
lingering.
674
00:28:05,634 --> 00:28:10,515
Like, they haven't fully signed, but there's a
lot of talk that, yeah, it's going to happen.
675
00:28:10,515 --> 00:28:11,095
I mean,
676
00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:13,350
Well, you had you had my look
677
00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:15,830
when you were talking about Brooksy.
678
00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:22,724
I mean, that's just my I got pretty that's just
that's just my that's just my theory.
679
00:28:22,964 --> 00:28:24,325
Another little thing too.
680
00:28:24,325 --> 00:28:27,765
Same same man hey, same management company as
Dustin too.
681
00:28:27,765 --> 00:28:28,230
Right?
682
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:29,369
Hambridge sports.
683
00:28:29,429 --> 00:28:34,309
Now I'm not saying that these agents are gonna
get the the full 20% of Oh, they're getting
684
00:28:34,309 --> 00:28:34,869
their money.
685
00:28:34,869 --> 00:28:35,609
A 100100.
686
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:36,309
They're getting
687
00:28:36,309 --> 00:28:36,549
their money.
688
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:39,475
I think, well, I think they stagger it a a
little bit.
689
00:28:39,475 --> 00:28:41,875
You know, let's say if I get let's say that I
Well,
690
00:28:41,875 --> 00:28:42,934
multi year contracts.
691
00:28:43,394 --> 00:28:43,555
Yeah.
692
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:46,309
Well, let's say I work for you, Matt, and I get
you in the French open.
693
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:46,970
Okay.
694
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:50,070
And, and I get you a $100,000 to go play in the
French open.
695
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:50,150
Yes.
696
00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:54,704
I'm getting my 20%, my 20 grand for my company,
and that kinda stuff Buttsy I think I'm under
697
00:28:54,704 --> 00:28:58,865
the impression as to talking to some guys, and
I don't know this a 100% for sure.
698
00:28:58,865 --> 00:29:02,964
But when you start getting up to that big
money, you stagger Brown, you know, 20%, 16%
699
00:29:03,105 --> 00:29:03,490
temp.
700
00:29:03,490 --> 00:29:03,890
Whatever.
701
00:29:03,890 --> 00:29:05,490
It's still a phenomenal amount of Mikey.
702
00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:07,269
But my point is it's the same management.
703
00:29:07,650 --> 00:29:12,210
It's the same management company, you know,
and, and it's probably going to be a lot of
704
00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:12,369
money.
705
00:29:12,369 --> 00:29:12,845
Who knows?
706
00:29:12,845 --> 00:29:15,884
He might not go, but just the way his press
conference sounded yesterday.
707
00:29:15,884 --> 00:29:17,325
I'm like, oh, he's leaving it.
708
00:29:17,325 --> 00:29:19,244
He he's aggravated right now.
709
00:29:19,244 --> 00:29:20,869
You know, he's he's aggravated.
710
00:29:20,869 --> 00:29:23,109
I did I tell you that that, Thomas?
711
00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:25,289
He had ludicrous performance at his wedding.
712
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:26,309
Oh my god.
713
00:29:26,309 --> 00:29:27,929
He's kinda one of the johnsons.
714
00:29:28,164 --> 00:29:29,765
Gotta wanna call you and go.
715
00:29:29,765 --> 00:29:31,684
That's the beauty of this entire thing.
716
00:29:31,684 --> 00:29:32,164
Right?
717
00:29:32,164 --> 00:29:33,045
That's the beauty of
718
00:29:33,205 --> 00:29:36,404
That that that one that PGA Tour wife in
Jupiter.
719
00:29:36,404 --> 00:29:39,470
That's a tough That's a tough racket to get
into Mikey man.
720
00:29:39,609 --> 00:29:42,170
They had kid rock, and now they got a one up.
721
00:29:42,170 --> 00:29:46,825
And honestly, if you if you've and I love
talking shit like the Buttsy if you cover the
722
00:29:46,825 --> 00:29:51,304
paper trail of these guys getting married, you
can see the Genesis got engaged first.
723
00:29:51,304 --> 00:29:54,024
And then all of a sudden, a week later, Paulina
and Dustin,
724
00:29:54,024 --> 00:29:54,424
you know,
725
00:29:54,424 --> 00:29:56,650
after 47 years of being engaged
726
00:29:56,869 --> 00:29:57,190
and and
727
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:57,990
that kind of stuff.
728
00:29:57,990 --> 00:30:02,230
So you've got to keep up with the johnsons and
the Capcas, and and that's a that's a big deal
729
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:03,830
out here with the with some of the wives.
730
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:08,775
Now called the wife, especially the old school
wives, you know, that that they're they were
731
00:30:08,775 --> 00:30:11,015
more family oriented and that kind of stuff.
732
00:30:11,015 --> 00:30:14,789
And it seems like it it seems like I might get
in trouble for saying this, Buttsy, it seems
733
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:19,830
like when you get to these big tiny lead
players that all of a sudden, pairing parenting
734
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:25,884
isn't high on the, you know, the to do list, so
to speak, everybody's got a nanny and that kind
735
00:30:25,884 --> 00:30:26,444
of stuff.
736
00:30:26,444 --> 00:30:28,309
So, you know, I got all kinds of shit.
737
00:30:28,309 --> 00:30:28,549
Okay.
738
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:29,190
You're talking about it.
739
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:30,389
You gotta manage your time.
740
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:30,889
Right?
741
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:31,269
You know,
742
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:32,149
I'll be in the book.
743
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:33,529
I mean, you're stuck in it.
744
00:30:33,569 --> 00:30:37,285
Buttsy you're you're spot on with the fact that
it is keeping up with the Joneses because when
745
00:30:37,285 --> 00:30:42,265
you live that lifestyle, that tends to coincide
with having a bit of an ego.
746
00:30:42,325 --> 00:30:47,279
And you know these guys are competitive Buttsy
what I don't think people realize is that golf
747
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:54,414
isn't necessarily the most important thing in
their And I think the fan wants wants it to be.
748
00:30:54,414 --> 00:30:56,974
They want it to be the Michael Jordan, right,
to where Right.
749
00:30:57,054 --> 00:30:59,600
Michael Jordan live, breathe, and die bass skip
ball.
750
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,960
He still basically does.
751
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,980
I mean, he's on the golf course all the time,
just trying to get out as competitive juices.
752
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:09,904
Just Mikey hoping that someday Mikey, he even
challenged at the Hall of Fame thing, Magic
753
00:31:09,904 --> 00:31:13,424
Johnson to a game, Mikey, this year or last
year.
754
00:31:13,424 --> 00:31:18,869
So it's Mikey, he's got that juice, but, like,
these guys, like, Dustin Johnson, I said that
755
00:31:18,869 --> 00:31:21,269
actually before it ever came out ago.
756
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:26,684
And, actually, I think you and I were talking
about it, on the podcast to where I go, I
757
00:31:26,684 --> 00:31:31,884
wouldn't be surprised if DJ goes to live golf,
Mikey, and then, of course, he ends up going,
758
00:31:31,884 --> 00:31:35,779
but, like, you can kind of peg the people that
are going to go.
759
00:31:35,779 --> 00:31:39,640
The one that I don't think is going to go that
I've heard is.
760
00:31:40,019 --> 00:31:41,320
I can't see it happening.
761
00:31:41,555 --> 00:31:42,775
I don't see it either.
762
00:31:42,835 --> 00:31:42,994
No.
763
00:31:42,994 --> 00:31:45,235
It's too it's it's too early in his career.
764
00:31:45,235 --> 00:31:50,994
He's you you you know, it it's it's just too
it's too early in his career to consider
765
00:31:50,994 --> 00:31:51,630
something that.
766
00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:57,070
But there's another one saying management
company is Dustin And Brooks, Hamburg Sports,
767
00:31:57,070 --> 00:32:01,115
you know, but he's got, you know, he's got more
writer cops and president and that kind of
768
00:32:01,115 --> 00:32:01,355
stuff.
769
00:32:01,355 --> 00:32:04,875
And these, you know, these guys that are going
over, I'm surprised that they don't want
770
00:32:04,875 --> 00:32:08,095
anything to do with that anymore because that's
a it's not a $125,000,000.
771
00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:10,095
They don't think that, though.
772
00:32:10,460 --> 00:32:10,700
Pill.
773
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:10,899
You know?
774
00:32:10,899 --> 00:32:11,259
I don't
775
00:32:12,380 --> 00:32:18,525
I think the reason they're going over and
partially not only that, though, Buttsy because
776
00:32:18,525 --> 00:32:22,684
the PGA Tour basically said, you're not a free
agent, even though they are.
777
00:32:22,684 --> 00:32:26,850
I think that that really pissed off a lot of
guys on tour to say, Wait.
778
00:32:26,850 --> 00:32:31,490
I don't get my own decision that I can't make a
decision on my own, and I think that push.
779
00:32:31,490 --> 00:32:35,545
Some of these guys that you're gonna be seeing
coming up over the next couple of weeks because
780
00:32:35,545 --> 00:32:41,095
once the US Open happens, there's going to be 2
weeks before the next, live tournament.
781
00:32:41,650 --> 00:32:43,809
At Pumpkin Ridge, I believe, up in Oregon.
782
00:32:43,809 --> 00:32:43,970
Yeah.
783
00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:44,529
I've been there.
784
00:32:44,529 --> 00:32:45,750
Have you ever been there before?
785
00:32:45,809 --> 00:32:46,309
Great.
786
00:32:46,849 --> 00:32:47,349
Great.
787
00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:49,140
But I was bummed to Perez.
788
00:32:49,170 --> 00:32:53,894
I've been there a couple of Korn Ferry tour
events for, a a a, you know, a kid that was
789
00:32:53,894 --> 00:32:54,535
highly regarded.
790
00:32:54,535 --> 00:32:56,134
They came out of Oregon a few years ago.
791
00:32:56,134 --> 00:32:59,160
The cowboy paid a bunch of Mikey, Norman Zhang,
and they kinda called me in.
792
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,440
He wasn't playing any good.
793
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:00,599
Hey.
794
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:01,799
Come work for him for a month.
795
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:02,680
Tell us what you think.
796
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,400
Callaway was kind of behind that with me a
little bit.
797
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:05,559
You know?
798
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:09,845
And then I went for a you know, a veteran
that's been that's worn around the world named
799
00:33:09,845 --> 00:33:13,924
David Lipbski, you know, who's a rookie out
here this year is having a nice year.
800
00:33:13,924 --> 00:33:14,325
Great player.
801
00:33:14,325 --> 00:33:17,820
He almost won me for the second there, and I
fell in love with that sports I was bummed to
802
00:33:17,820 --> 00:33:21,740
hear that it's not the regular course that we
play those porn fairy tour event.
803
00:33:21,740 --> 00:33:23,980
It's a it's a mix of the other course on the
other side.
804
00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:25,565
There's another course on the other side.
805
00:33:25,624 --> 00:33:26,444
Buttsy it's a dirty.
806
00:33:26,444 --> 00:33:27,164
It's a great.
807
00:33:27,164 --> 00:33:27,325
It's
808
00:33:27,325 --> 00:33:27,884
a great track.
809
00:33:27,884 --> 00:33:28,044
It's a
810
00:33:28,044 --> 00:33:28,845
great golf course.
811
00:33:28,845 --> 00:33:32,764
You know how it's, I was saying, I was
referencing, you know, this growing the game
812
00:33:32,764 --> 00:33:36,990
thing, I think, is a crop of shit to because to
me, it's a Buttsy a frigging crack cash grab.
813
00:33:36,990 --> 00:33:40,430
And I understand where those guys are coming
from, but I was making this point to somebody
814
00:33:40,430 --> 00:33:40,590
else.
815
00:33:40,590 --> 00:33:43,434
I go, when you're talking about growing the
game, of golf.
816
00:33:43,434 --> 00:33:46,875
To me, you you target the young kids and the
juniors and that kind of stuff.
817
00:33:46,875 --> 00:33:51,950
And the PGA Tour is always gonna be the PGA
Tour, and I don't see any ten year old or eight
818
00:33:51,950 --> 00:33:58,670
year old in 5 years at 6:30 at 9 on the driving
range with his Bobby going, this ten footer is
819
00:33:58,670 --> 00:34:01,954
to win the live tournament at Pumpkin Ridge.
820
00:34:01,954 --> 00:34:06,115
It's always gonna be, I'm gonna bury this
motherfucker for the US Open or the Masters or
821
00:34:06,115 --> 00:34:08,135
to win on the 18th Brown at Peddle.
822
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:09,989
Or this or that.
823
00:34:09,989 --> 00:34:11,429
That's never gonna change.
824
00:34:11,429 --> 00:34:11,589
That's like
825
00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:11,989
Talk about
826
00:34:11,989 --> 00:34:12,609
that with Mikey.
827
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:14,389
I was like, Mikey That's growing that.
828
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:15,909
That's growing into the kids.
829
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:19,657
I will never And this was before all of this
stuff when Jay
830
00:34:19,657 --> 00:34:19,718
did the meeting at rib.
831
00:34:19,718 --> 00:34:19,780
I'm just like, I I
832
00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:28,849
can't imagine a kid Mikey, when I was a kid,
I'd sit there and go, there's a thirteen footer
833
00:34:28,849 --> 00:34:29,829
to win the masters.
834
00:34:30,210 --> 00:34:30,369
Yeah.
835
00:34:30,369 --> 00:34:32,789
Like, there was nothing more important to me
than that.
836
00:34:33,135 --> 00:34:33,454
Yeah.
837
00:34:33,454 --> 00:34:33,855
Exactly.
838
00:34:33,855 --> 00:34:36,355
And even, like, the memorial or, like,
839
00:34:36,734 --> 00:34:37,174
with, I think
840
00:34:37,295 --> 00:34:41,214
Navy era or, you know, Bayhill or something
like that.
841
00:34:41,214 --> 00:34:45,989
All those iconic Buttsy these kids Brown up
watching that watch Tiger Mikey or this guy or
842
00:34:45,989 --> 00:34:47,190
that guy and that kind of stuff.
843
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:51,269
You know, to me, when you talk about growing
the game, maybe I'm a little jaded, but I
844
00:34:51,269 --> 00:34:54,005
always think about kids, you know, because it
always starts with the kids.
845
00:34:54,005 --> 00:34:54,644
It always does.
846
00:34:54,644 --> 00:34:59,204
Whoever decides whoever jumps on the bandwagon
and showcases the cash and everything like
847
00:34:59,204 --> 00:34:59,704
that.
848
00:34:59,844 --> 00:35:01,920
I I promise you this there is so much.
849
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,519
All you had to do is turn into Gray Hawk a
couple of weeks ago and watch nationals, which
850
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:07,359
is my, like, my favorite tournament to watch.
851
00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:12,655
There's plenty of there's plenty of them coming
and that they're all gonna be they're all gonna
852
00:35:12,655 --> 00:35:13,394
be replaceable.
853
00:35:13,454 --> 00:35:15,775
There's gonna be no more superstars out here.
854
00:35:15,775 --> 00:35:18,099
We are paired I've been tracking the kid.
855
00:35:18,099 --> 00:35:22,579
I grew up in Glendora, California, and I went
to a Catholic high school in Laverne,
856
00:35:22,579 --> 00:35:24,565
California called Damien High School.
857
00:35:24,565 --> 00:35:29,404
And we used to play our tournaments at this
golf course of Mikey Los Sorano South or or,
858
00:35:29,605 --> 00:35:34,039
Marshall Canyon of Sandema's Canyon Sierra,
Wendura, Country Club, and that kind of So
859
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,140
there's this kid named William Mau at
Pepperdine.
860
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,039
We're getting paired with him paired with him
tomorrow.
861
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:40,480
I'm super excited to watch him play a friend I
made him.
862
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,400
I mean, Pepperdine.
863
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:41,480
Okay.
864
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,184
They're made 3 or 4 years ago.
865
00:35:43,265 --> 00:35:44,465
He played on the walker cup.
866
00:35:44,465 --> 00:35:46,704
I don't think he, I don't think he lost it.
867
00:35:46,704 --> 00:35:51,344
I don't think he lost the match, but there are
so many of these young college guys.
868
00:35:51,344 --> 00:35:55,539
And all he had to do was Grayhawk, and you're
like, god, these fucking kids are not.
869
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,119
They have no scar tissue yet.
870
00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:57,359
Right?
871
00:35:57,359 --> 00:35:58,960
They're not fucking afraid to fire it.
872
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,275
Every single flag and that kinda stuff.
873
00:36:01,275 --> 00:36:01,675
That's what
874
00:36:01,675 --> 00:36:02,255
it is.
875
00:36:02,394 --> 00:36:04,954
Any scar tissue that just builds up over time.
876
00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:05,195
Right.
877
00:36:05,195 --> 00:36:07,195
There's no scar tissues for these young kids.
878
00:36:07,195 --> 00:36:11,250
They're super aggressive, and that's the Mikey,
we've said before in other episodes, that's the
879
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:12,130
trend of the game.
880
00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:12,450
You know
881
00:36:12,450 --> 00:36:13,010
what I mean?
882
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:14,930
You're fucking at it as hard as you can.
883
00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:19,715
See stick and stick because it's easier to make
far from 60 yards away than it is about about
884
00:36:19,715 --> 00:36:21,735
40 or about 50.
885
00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:23,474
So, you know, it'll be interesting.
886
00:36:23,474 --> 00:36:24,375
I gotta tell you I'm friends with Short Charles
County Heath Holt.
887
00:36:27,460 --> 00:36:30,259
And he's just another one, and I sent it on an
episode before.
888
00:36:30,259 --> 00:36:34,179
There's so many good counties out here that you
never hear about because they just work for
889
00:36:34,179 --> 00:36:38,565
kinda average players who may or $1,200,000 or
$1,400,000 a year.
890
00:36:38,625 --> 00:36:45,309
And, you know, he went yachts, man, $475,000 he
made into a 3 day event 4 75.
891
00:36:45,309 --> 00:36:45,869
It's so funny.
892
00:36:45,869 --> 00:36:46,909
I text him after he's running.
893
00:36:46,909 --> 00:36:48,349
I'm like, do you gotta retire now?
894
00:36:48,349 --> 00:36:49,969
And he goes, I'm thinking about it.
895
00:36:50,109 --> 00:36:52,985
Because that's more than I made my last fucking
10 years, Bob.
896
00:36:53,144 --> 00:36:53,545
You know?
897
00:36:53,545 --> 00:36:57,945
So his whole life and his whole family and kids
and everything just changed from it overnight.
898
00:36:57,945 --> 00:36:59,625
So I guess that's that's really
899
00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:01,085
about that's a great question.
900
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:01,980
You know?
901
00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:03,019
That's a good thing.
902
00:37:03,019 --> 00:37:08,059
I do have a question around that because as a
caddy, right, if all of a sudden your player
903
00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:10,525
decides that he's gonna go play, Yeah.
904
00:37:10,525 --> 00:37:11,405
What do you do?
905
00:37:11,405 --> 00:37:14,464
I mean, is it one of those where it's Mikey, I
yeah.
906
00:37:14,605 --> 00:37:15,085
Shit.
907
00:37:15,085 --> 00:37:15,824
Gotta go.
908
00:37:16,364 --> 00:37:18,029
Well, I mean, I have kids at home.
909
00:37:18,029 --> 00:37:19,230
I have to be honest with you.
910
00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:21,309
I'm not getting any younger and that kind of
stuff.
911
00:37:21,309 --> 00:37:27,144
It's it's it's it's I'd be lying if I said it's
nothing I didn't, you know, think about if that
912
00:37:27,144 --> 00:37:30,424
opportunity arose and that kind of stuff, but
one, we can change it.
913
00:37:30,424 --> 00:37:31,864
It you know, it's funny.
914
00:37:31,864 --> 00:37:35,679
One with you talk about all the money that
players get where, you know, counties are
915
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,960
pretty well taken care of.
916
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,619
I mean, this purse this week's gonna be
17,500,000.
917
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:45,905
You know, that's gonna be 3.1 to the winter
that county is making you know, $300 there,
918
00:37:45,905 --> 00:37:47,105
whoever gets it done.
919
00:37:47,105 --> 00:37:51,744
So, you know, it can be done on both tours,
but, you know, on the smaller scale of things,
920
00:37:51,744 --> 00:37:55,630
you know, $300 to us guys is Mikey 3,000,000 to
those guys.
921
00:37:55,630 --> 00:37:59,789
Really, it is, you know, it really is on the on
the scale of things.
922
00:37:59,789 --> 00:38:05,535
So I don't, you know, I it would be it would be
hard to say no in that sense.
923
00:38:05,535 --> 00:38:05,933
You know?
924
00:38:05,933 --> 00:38:08,119
Bobby, it would be impossible to say no.
925
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,240
Possible to say, you know
926
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,599
You can't say no to that.
927
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:16,964
And that's what I have a problem with kind of
the the hypocrisy, right, of the moral stance
928
00:38:16,964 --> 00:38:18,244
as to the whole entire thing.
929
00:38:18,244 --> 00:38:22,804
It's Mikey, this business, like, if when you
look at the United States alone, like,
930
00:38:22,804 --> 00:38:28,489
everything is so inter line with Saudi Arabia
because there's so much influx of money that
931
00:38:28,489 --> 00:38:31,050
comes over, whether it's in Silicon Valley or
so forth.
932
00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:37,074
That's why I don't buy into that whole rhetoric
around these players being bad or they betrayed
933
00:38:37,295 --> 00:38:38,255
the PGA tour.
934
00:38:38,255 --> 00:38:41,940
Like, when you start to hear the years that
they've given to the tour.
935
00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:46,420
It's Mikey, you can't fault them for riding off
into the sunset, getting this huge paycheck.
936
00:38:46,420 --> 00:38:46,659
Sure.
937
00:38:46,659 --> 00:38:46,980
Yeah.
938
00:38:46,980 --> 00:38:47,880
Is it a MoneyGram?
939
00:38:48,105 --> 00:38:48,605
Absolutely.
940
00:38:49,065 --> 00:38:49,964
Like 100%.
941
00:38:50,264 --> 00:38:51,144
It's all about them.
942
00:38:51,144 --> 00:38:52,605
Like, you know, it's fun.
943
00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:53,065
It's funny.
944
00:38:53,065 --> 00:38:57,404
I was telling somebody the other day that was I
was a neighbor of mine or something was was
945
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,760
asking about it.
946
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,519
He said he's in a pretty important guy in the
military and that kind of stuff.
947
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:05,640
And I was telling him, like, oh, it's a he
goes, is this the start of the end for the PGA
948
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:05,880
tour?
949
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,079
I'm like, absolutely not.
950
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:07,485
No.
951
00:39:07,565 --> 00:39:09,345
Well, it depends on how they react.
952
00:39:09,724 --> 00:39:13,085
Well, it depends how they react for sure, but
nothing's gonna bear the PGA Tour.
953
00:39:13,085 --> 00:39:13,805
They're too strong.
954
00:39:13,805 --> 00:39:14,765
It is the PGA Tour.
955
00:39:14,765 --> 00:39:18,630
It's what all kids That's what all kids have
dreamed about playing and winning majors and
956
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:19,349
that kind of stuff.
957
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:23,190
And it just seems to me that when you when most
of these guys that are going these bigger name
958
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:25,445
goings have gotten to the promised land before.
959
00:39:25,684 --> 00:39:26,005
Right?
960
00:39:26,005 --> 00:39:28,824
They've been number 1 or whatever they've had
tremendous success.
961
00:39:28,885 --> 00:39:35,230
And now it's, you know, it's now it's like,
well, I think I can really use a $125,000,000.
962
00:39:36,569 --> 00:39:40,889
And, you know, I don't have to work as hard as
I worked before.
963
00:39:40,889 --> 00:39:44,614
I'm not gonna make that money on the PGA And
I've been there before, so maybe it's just a
964
00:39:44,614 --> 00:39:46,054
new chapter for them.
965
00:39:46,054 --> 00:39:49,414
You know, maybe it's just maybe it's just an I
would I don't catch it.
966
00:39:49,414 --> 00:39:52,910
I don't really cast judgment on their decisions
or authority.
967
00:39:53,210 --> 00:39:58,010
I'm dying to know who else is gonna go to tell
you the truth.
968
00:39:58,010 --> 00:40:01,091
Could you hear different names every single Who
are you Perez?
969
00:40:01,394 --> 00:40:02,855
Because you're hearing the rumors.
970
00:40:03,235 --> 00:40:04,275
I'm hearing like,
971
00:40:04,275 --> 00:40:05,954
I'm not gonna make you.
972
00:40:05,954 --> 00:40:07,575
Oh, you're not dropping anything.
973
00:40:07,715 --> 00:40:08,215
See.
974
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:09,510
You know, I can't.
975
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:11,030
I think we'll all find out together.
976
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:13,829
Everything I hear is everything I I I hear is
wonderful.
977
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:14,469
And you gotta remember.
978
00:40:14,469 --> 00:40:14,630
But
979
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:15,530
you are hearing.
980
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:17,269
Pretty solidified Kathy out here.
981
00:40:17,269 --> 00:40:19,085
I can't I see these guys every day.
982
00:40:19,085 --> 00:40:19,965
I'm I have Yeah.
983
00:40:19,965 --> 00:40:20,125
No.
984
00:40:20,125 --> 00:40:21,005
You can't hear that.
985
00:40:21,005 --> 00:40:21,885
I have friends.
986
00:40:21,885 --> 00:40:24,764
I have friends for life out Perez, you know,
and it's Audience
987
00:40:24,764 --> 00:40:25,405
is gonna be pissed
988
00:40:25,405 --> 00:40:26,445
at me for not pressing.
989
00:40:26,445 --> 00:40:28,799
I want to I want to.
990
00:40:29,099 --> 00:40:29,579
You know?
991
00:40:29,579 --> 00:40:34,699
But you are hearing that the numbers that I
mentioned are around 1.
992
00:40:34,699 --> 00:40:37,675
Anything close to the number that you thought
twelve 16.
993
00:40:37,675 --> 00:40:38,394
You know what I mean?
994
00:40:38,394 --> 00:40:38,715
Well, no.
995
00:40:38,715 --> 00:40:39,695
I'm here in 16.
996
00:40:39,755 --> 00:40:42,494
I I'm thinking it's it's gotta be closer to 12.
997
00:40:42,875 --> 00:40:43,195
Yeah.
998
00:40:43,195 --> 00:40:43,434
No.
999
00:40:43,434 --> 00:40:44,974
I've heard, like, maybe 2.
1000
00:40:45,114 --> 00:40:50,489
Maybe maybe you know, if you get into the top
50 in the world, maybe a handful or or
1001
00:40:50,489 --> 00:40:51,130
something like that.
1002
00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:54,140
But can I tell you for a guy like me that works
for a guy like Troy Perez?
1003
00:40:54,250 --> 00:41:00,015
He's ninety fluctuates between 91.10 in the
world constantly and Mikey his $2,000,000 and
1004
00:41:00,015 --> 00:41:01,934
has his 4 chances to win every year.
1005
00:41:01,934 --> 00:41:04,595
This is actually a win scenario for us.
1006
00:41:04,819 --> 00:41:09,960
2, because the these are other elite players
that we don't have to fucking play against
1007
00:41:10,179 --> 00:41:13,184
anymore because we're better than them only 4
weeks out of the year.
1008
00:41:13,184 --> 00:41:15,824
And I'm being honest with you, and Troy would
tell you the same thing.
1009
00:41:15,824 --> 00:41:20,085
I'm better than them 4 or 5 or 6 weeks out of
the year out of out of 30.
1010
00:41:20,144 --> 00:41:24,280
But but once, you know, when these suspensions
went down and there's gonna be more that
1011
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,280
happens and that kind of stuff, we didn't play
last week.
1012
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,105
We lost three spots on the FedEx cup.
1013
00:41:28,125 --> 00:41:32,105
Buttsy we're probably gonna move up 6 or 7 spot
when these guys come off the list because
1014
00:41:32,105 --> 00:41:38,050
they've already removed the guys off the list
that resigned, you know, Dustin and Kevin.
1015
00:41:38,050 --> 00:41:40,210
I wanna say, Tina Gucci is still on the list.
1016
00:41:40,210 --> 00:41:45,025
You know, I'm sure they're gonna have more guys
that are gonna be resigning from the PGA tour.
1017
00:41:45,025 --> 00:41:48,545
So we're just gonna we're just gonna keep
moving, up the list.
1018
00:41:48,545 --> 00:41:53,059
And and for a guy like me that works kinda like
Troy Mayor, you know, your your big whole thing
1019
00:41:53,059 --> 00:41:54,920
is to is to get to Atlanta.
1020
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:55,780
That's Mikey the promise.
1021
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:57,139
Sure you want to win tournaments.
1022
00:41:57,139 --> 00:41:59,159
And that comes up, we're all out here to win
tournaments.
1023
00:41:59,425 --> 00:42:02,625
You know, but your your big thing is to get get
to Atlanta.
1024
00:42:02,625 --> 00:42:06,630
Because if you make that top 30 in the tour
championship, every door is open for you,
1025
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:07,690
and really sponsorships
1026
00:42:08,048 --> 00:42:11,369
Perez, you're in every major, you're in
everything possible.
1027
00:42:11,909 --> 00:42:16,994
You you know, that you that you that you could
possibly that you could possibly dream about.
1028
00:42:16,994 --> 00:42:17,315
You know?
1029
00:42:17,315 --> 00:42:21,474
So it's, you know, with, yeah, I'm not seeing
whipped cream on shit, but for a guy like us,
1030
00:42:21,474 --> 00:42:22,275
you know what I mean?
1031
00:42:22,275 --> 00:42:24,775
It's not, it's not a bad thing losing some of
these.
1032
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,460
Some of these elite players.
1033
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,699
I I can tell you, I don't.
1034
00:42:28,839 --> 00:42:34,385
I'm not really I'm sensing a little tension on
the range in that kind of off when some of
1035
00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:39,744
those guys are are warming up next to each
other and a bigger name player walks by and
1036
00:42:39,744 --> 00:42:40,945
what you heard the whole story.
1037
00:42:40,945 --> 00:42:44,460
Did you happen to read about, Kevin Nance.
1038
00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:47,179
Somebody was warming up next year, and then
Spieth walked by
1039
00:42:47,179 --> 00:42:47,659
and Okay.
1040
00:42:47,659 --> 00:42:49,179
So it was it was Billy Ho.
1041
00:42:49,179 --> 00:42:49,659
So Yeah.
1042
00:42:49,659 --> 00:42:53,144
And Billy was warming up in in Spieth went
right by and congratulate him.
1043
00:42:53,144 --> 00:42:58,904
And Kevin kind of gave speed, the head numb and
and speed just and speed just shined him off.
1044
00:42:58,904 --> 00:43:01,039
But that join the speed, and that's Justin
Thomas.
1045
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:01,760
This case grew up.
1046
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,280
I'm gonna win the fucking masters.
1047
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,140
I'm gonna win 8 rider cup tournaments.
1048
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:06,719
It's it's more to that.
1049
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,034
It's it's more substance to them, you know, to
be one of the greatest of all time.
1050
00:43:11,034 --> 00:43:12,155
That's the way they grew up.
1051
00:43:12,155 --> 00:43:13,114
And I'm not saying.
1052
00:43:13,114 --> 00:43:14,494
That's how it should be.
1053
00:43:14,875 --> 00:43:15,994
But at the same time,
1054
00:43:15,994 --> 00:43:17,695
and that's why I'm pro PGA.
1055
00:43:17,755 --> 00:43:18,079
Right?
1056
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:22,286
That I grew up and and all the only tournaments
I ever wanted to win were PG tour events.
1057
00:43:22,286 --> 00:43:24,500
Mikey, even like the European tours.
1058
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:24,719
Yeah.
1059
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:30,664
And and actually, this is where I wanna go with
it because the entire thing, and this is where
1060
00:43:30,664 --> 00:43:35,485
I started to be like, wow, this could be great
for the game of golf.
1061
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:42,460
And could really grow golf was not from the
sentiment that Live Golf is going to bring in
1062
00:43:42,460 --> 00:43:43,599
all these new people.
1063
00:43:44,204 --> 00:43:44,684
Yeah.
1064
00:43:44,702 --> 00:43:49,565
Mikey, I was actually surprised by people
reaching out to me that don't play golf that I
1065
00:43:49,565 --> 00:43:50,444
know don't play golf.
1066
00:43:50,444 --> 00:43:52,599
And I'm like, oh, hang on a second.
1067
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:56,280
You're interested in learning my take on Live
Golf when you're not even a golfer.
1068
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,199
Like, that to me, like, okay.
1069
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:01,260
That's a definite, like, that is growing the
game technically.
1070
00:44:01,754 --> 00:44:07,894
Buttsy to me, it comes down to and I was
actually I was I was thinking about this today
1071
00:44:07,894 --> 00:44:10,474
in getting ready for, our episode.
1072
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,659
And I'm like, you know, there was a time when I
was on the Butcharm in Vegas tour.
1073
00:44:15,279 --> 00:44:15,599
Yeah.
1074
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:22,295
And I remember driving back to my apartment
which we had a discount from the Boocharm in
1075
00:44:22,295 --> 00:44:22,934
Vegas tour.
1076
00:44:22,934 --> 00:44:26,474
Like, they at least did like a discount with
this apartment complex.
1077
00:44:26,694 --> 00:44:34,599
I remember heading back and I I go to look at
my phone so that I I can check my bank account
1078
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:35,099
balance.
1079
00:44:35,465 --> 00:44:35,785
Right.
1080
00:44:35,785 --> 00:44:35,945
I had
1081
00:44:35,945 --> 00:44:37,085
I had 7¢.
1082
00:44:37,704 --> 00:44:38,105
Yeah.
1083
00:44:38,105 --> 00:44:40,905
I didn't have I didn't have a dollar to my
name.
1084
00:44:40,905 --> 00:44:41,864
That's real pressure.
1085
00:44:41,864 --> 00:44:42,105
Right.
1086
00:44:42,105 --> 00:44:44,285
And I go, holy shit.
1087
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:46,559
I'm like, 1, how did this happen?
1088
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:49,460
And, of course, a bill had just come out for,
like, my cell phone.
1089
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:58,474
And I remember digging around in my console and
my car and found just enough money to get a $1
1090
00:44:58,775 --> 00:44:59,594
double cheeseburger.
1091
00:44:59,894 --> 00:45:01,675
I was just gonna throw that out.
1092
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,279
Yep.
1093
00:45:02,279 --> 00:45:02,519
Yep.
1094
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:03,639
I was just gonna throw that out.
1095
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:05,559
And that's the biggest thing with this, though.
1096
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:06,059
Yeah.
1097
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:06,359
Yeah.
1098
00:45:06,359 --> 00:45:12,164
Because and here's my here's why I'm talking
about that is because if it if this does
1099
00:45:12,164 --> 00:45:19,949
anything, the guaranteed pay is something that
is in every major sport Think about it.
1100
00:45:19,949 --> 00:45:25,230
Every parallel to Major League Baseball to the
NBA now with the development with the G league
1101
00:45:25,230 --> 00:45:28,049
with every major sport in America.
1102
00:45:28,815 --> 00:45:31,855
Guys who are trying to develop are getting
paid.
1103
00:45:31,855 --> 00:45:34,835
They're not it's not a ton of money, but
they're getting paid.
1104
00:45:34,974 --> 00:45:43,300
Both is the only one to where even on the mini
tours, like, it's you're grinding, and there's
1105
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:44,340
so many stories.
1106
00:45:44,340 --> 00:45:48,714
I mean, you you know, how many stories there
are Mikey tour guys, and there's horror
1107
00:45:48,714 --> 00:45:49,214
stories.
1108
00:45:49,594 --> 00:45:55,800
As to guys who ended up, I hate to say it, but
committed suicide or you know, ended up, like,
1109
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,880
in bad drug addiction or just being broke and
couldn't ever get back to where they wanted to
1110
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,039
be.
1111
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:07,174
And now you just see them out and Mikey tour
events week in week out barely surviving.
1112
00:46:07,474 --> 00:46:11,734
And it's Mikey that to me because you look at
somebody like a Tom Hoge.
1113
00:46:11,795 --> 00:46:13,690
You look into somebody like a rich beam.
1114
00:46:13,769 --> 00:46:15,710
Who they came on later on.
1115
00:46:16,170 --> 00:46:18,329
And that's when they turn it around.
1116
00:46:18,329 --> 00:46:22,765
If you had a developmental league, and I I'll
talk about the Yankees right Brown, Nestor
1117
00:46:22,765 --> 00:46:27,244
Cortez, who happens to be one of the top
pitchers in baseball right now and having
1118
00:46:27,244 --> 00:46:31,905
literally the best season, but he spent 8 years
in the minors.
1119
00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:36,609
Now he didn't have to worry about money coming
in.
1120
00:46:36,609 --> 00:46:42,534
And my other point to this is that minorities
are restricted from playing the game of golf
1121
00:46:42,534 --> 00:46:46,295
because if you're a minority that doesn't have
a wealthy family behind you
1122
00:46:46,375 --> 00:46:46,934
Oh, yeah.
1123
00:46:47,014 --> 00:46:52,869
There's no chance for you even unless you just
get an immediate pass to the PGA Tour because
1124
00:46:52,869 --> 00:46:57,494
you were so good in college Mikey a Tiger
Woods, for instance, Like, there's no way
1125
00:46:57,494 --> 00:47:03,335
you're gonna be able to sustain on the mini
tours because as everybody who has played on
1126
00:47:03,335 --> 00:47:04,449
the mini tours knows.
1127
00:47:04,690 --> 00:47:08,210
Making a cut does not mean you're financially
stable.
1128
00:47:08,210 --> 00:47:12,130
You have to win multiple weeks in order to
sustain.
1129
00:47:12,130 --> 00:47:16,545
And these guys are going out shooting 60 ones
because they're going after everything.
1130
00:47:16,844 --> 00:47:17,885
And it doesn't matter.
1131
00:47:17,885 --> 00:47:20,704
Like, they'd know, like, life is on the line
here.
1132
00:47:20,809 --> 00:47:28,090
And that's where I feel as though with live, if
it does anything, this guaranteed pay for
1133
00:47:28,090 --> 00:47:31,914
showing up, I don't like it not having a cut.
1134
00:47:31,914 --> 00:47:36,655
I think there's gotta be a cut, but I think
everybody that gets cut gets a small paycheck.
1135
00:47:37,149 --> 00:47:37,809
Mikey, e
1136
00:47:37,889 --> 00:47:43,010
and that is my biggest thing with this entire
thing is if there was a developmental league
1137
00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:46,934
for the PGA Tour, to where guys got a small
salary.
1138
00:47:46,994 --> 00:47:52,114
And then if you play well, you get bonuses and
you get this additional pay.
1139
00:47:52,114 --> 00:47:58,130
And it allows you to grow into your golf game
because golf, we know, is not something that
1140
00:47:58,130 --> 00:48:02,630
everybody picks up at the age from 18 to 21 and
matures.
1141
00:48:02,724 --> 00:48:04,265
Some guys mature at 35.
1142
00:48:05,125 --> 00:48:05,605
Right.
1143
00:48:05,605 --> 00:48:05,925
Yeah.
1144
00:48:05,925 --> 00:48:06,405
I agree.
1145
00:48:06,405 --> 00:48:08,025
I want your take on that, though.
1146
00:48:08,244 --> 00:48:13,829
Well, I mean, I mean, you know, the whole mini
tour thing, I mean, I've carried in mini tour
1147
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:17,920
events for a guy, and I I didn't I numerous
guys, and you never did it for the Mikey.
1148
00:48:18,114 --> 00:48:18,514
Academy.
1149
00:48:18,514 --> 00:48:21,954
You did it to go help friends or to scout
future talent.
1150
00:48:21,954 --> 00:48:27,369
It was a big thing for me too to see what's out
there because You know, these, you know, we we
1151
00:48:27,369 --> 00:48:31,849
play with the we we play with the guy who's an
alternate out here who went to Boise State
1152
00:48:31,849 --> 00:48:37,074
where where Troy Plate, and he is notorious for
shooting 5960 or 61.
1153
00:48:37,074 --> 00:48:38,355
Now he's not gonna get in the field.
1154
00:48:38,355 --> 00:48:40,239
I'm not gonna mention his name or anything like
that.
1155
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,960
This guy's probably not cracking 85 out here
tomorrow.
1156
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:43,599
You know what I mean?
1157
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,239
So that just goes to show you how many how
those Mikey tours are.
1158
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,644
These guys can go shoot 60, 61, make their 12
or 1800 bucks and that kind of stuff.
1159
00:48:50,644 --> 00:48:54,164
And then they get out here and they get their
head stumped in and, you know, and now all of a
1160
00:48:54,164 --> 00:48:58,840
sudden they're, you know, selling insurance or
you know, taking a nice six figure job, making
1161
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,360
a $100 a year and supporting their family and
that, and that kind of stuff.
1162
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,695
But, you know, it's it's a tough go, but I I
will tell you funny that you're talking about
1163
00:49:06,695 --> 00:49:07,734
that because there's a hand.
1164
00:49:07,734 --> 00:49:12,135
This is one of the weeks where, you know, the
public probably doesn't know this, but if you
1165
00:49:12,135 --> 00:49:15,920
qualify for your professional and you call, I'm
sure it doesn't the amateurs.
1166
00:49:16,059 --> 00:49:20,380
But anybody in this field where they miss a cut
is getting $10, right?
1167
00:49:20,380 --> 00:49:22,159
The USDA does that for everybody.
1168
00:49:22,219 --> 00:49:24,454
I believe I believe Augusta the same.
1169
00:49:24,454 --> 00:49:24,855
Thank you.
1170
00:49:24,855 --> 00:49:26,054
You just taught me something.
1171
00:49:26,054 --> 00:49:26,614
I never knew that.
1172
00:49:26,614 --> 00:49:27,014
Yeah.
1173
00:49:27,014 --> 00:49:28,775
So everybody here gets $10.
1174
00:49:28,775 --> 00:49:35,240
I believe I believe I believe Augusta, if you
make Augusta, well, granted it's you know, 90
1175
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:39,160
some guys or whatever, and they're all world
class players for the, for the most part.
1176
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,599
They, I believe they get $10.
1177
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:42,844
I believe the British Open pays you $10.
1178
00:49:42,844 --> 00:49:48,525
I believe the Scottish open is paying guys that
go, possibly 7500 or something like that.
1179
00:49:48,525 --> 00:49:52,349
But that's those big boy tournaments where the
talent pool is just so deep and that gonna
1180
00:49:52,349 --> 00:49:52,590
stuff.
1181
00:49:52,590 --> 00:49:57,250
But, you know, I could see something like that
happening, you know, in the future.
1182
00:49:57,309 --> 00:49:57,970
Just enough.
1183
00:49:58,349 --> 00:50:04,605
Just enough money so that you can live I I've
had so I had a a buddy in college who went out
1184
00:50:04,605 --> 00:50:05,265
and played.
1185
00:50:05,324 --> 00:50:10,204
He ended up going to Q School and made it to
the final stage and ended up getting on to Korn
1186
00:50:10,204 --> 00:50:10,639
Ferry.
1187
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:12,480
Well, nationwide at the time.
1188
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,679
And it sounds very resembling to Mikey Perez as
well because Mikey told me the same thing that
1189
00:50:17,679 --> 00:50:22,585
there was a year to where He was greatly in
debt, but this kid ended up being a I I forget
1190
00:50:22,585 --> 00:50:23,304
the exact note.
1191
00:50:23,304 --> 00:50:25,005
It was either $50 or a $150.
1192
00:50:26,025 --> 00:50:26,764
In debt.
1193
00:50:27,219 --> 00:50:28,260
I can tell you a story.
1194
00:50:28,260 --> 00:50:32,019
There's a young kid on the Perez too that I've
helped in the past get through Q School and
1195
00:50:32,019 --> 00:50:33,539
that US Open from LSU.
1196
00:50:33,539 --> 00:50:34,179
Louis Conye.
1197
00:50:34,179 --> 00:50:35,059
He played with news.
1198
00:50:35,059 --> 00:50:40,265
The second He's the 2nd best player behind Sam
Burns at LSU, and this kid can play.
1199
00:50:40,265 --> 00:50:43,224
And and I can't inform him, and I can tell you
this kid can play.
1200
00:50:43,224 --> 00:50:43,679
Right?
1201
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,519
So when he's on the phone for you now, he is
trying to keep his card.
1202
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:50,719
Number 1, he's been in contention a few times,
and he has a bit.
1203
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,655
He's going with the process of learning how to
deal with the pressure and that kind of stuff.
1204
00:50:54,655 --> 00:50:56,755
He has probably played in 20 some events.
1205
00:50:56,894 --> 00:50:59,295
You know, I've crunched his numbers and that
kind of stuff.
1206
00:50:59,295 --> 00:51:00,380
I've to him personally.
1207
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:02,199
He's losing his ass this year.
1208
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:02,920
He's paying.
1209
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,039
He's got a good, and he's got a good caddy
that's been on the tour.
1210
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:09,974
He's paying them not quite tour rate, but
better, you know, you you're paying a guy,
1211
00:51:10,034 --> 00:51:12,594
maybe $1500 on the Cornberry tour.
1212
00:51:12,594 --> 00:51:16,054
And if Rudy finishes 29th, he's made $38100.
1213
00:51:16,594 --> 00:51:18,295
So he's paying his CADD 1500.
1214
00:51:18,820 --> 00:51:21,640
Let's say it would be overpaying him paying him
10%.
1215
00:51:22,019 --> 00:51:23,160
That's another 400.
1216
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:25,219
So there's $2 right there.
1217
00:51:25,219 --> 00:51:27,545
He's got his expenses and that kind of stuff.
1218
00:51:27,545 --> 00:51:27,864
Great.
1219
00:51:27,864 --> 00:51:28,984
You finished top 30.
1220
00:51:28,984 --> 00:51:30,025
You got yourself some points.
1221
00:51:30,025 --> 00:51:32,585
You moved a little bit on the list, but you
fucking lost money.
1222
00:51:32,585 --> 00:51:33,565
And that's all.
1223
00:51:33,784 --> 00:51:35,519
And and that's all part of the deal.
1224
00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:39,519
So if you Brown a valid point that it would be
great if you could do something like that.
1225
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:42,054
I don't know if it would happen on a foreign
ferry tour.
1226
00:51:42,194 --> 00:51:45,414
Buttsy but out Perez, maybe that's something
about.
1227
00:51:45,414 --> 00:51:48,394
If the PGA really wants to change this entire
dynamic
1228
00:51:48,934 --> 00:51:49,175
Yeah.
1229
00:51:49,362 --> 00:51:55,730
And they wanna continue growing homegrown
talent that it has to go beyond, I mean,
1230
00:51:56,349 --> 00:52:01,565
there's so many good golfers that I know would
would have been great golfers.
1231
00:52:01,784 --> 00:52:03,644
I mean, think about the country clubs.
1232
00:52:03,704 --> 00:52:09,960
There's guys winning their their club
championship every year Yeah.
1233
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:15,079
Because they were a mini tour dropout because
they didn't have the time to develop, and now
1234
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:15,960
they're in their thirties.
1235
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,119
Yeah.
1236
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:17,900
They barely practice or play.
1237
00:52:17,974 --> 00:52:20,454
And they're better than they were when they
were playing on the mini tours.
1238
00:52:20,454 --> 00:52:22,535
Like, that's the tough thing to see.
1239
00:52:22,535 --> 00:52:27,800
And that's why I just like, if anything comes
from this, that's gonna be positive, That's the
1240
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,239
part that I would love to see.
1241
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,039
It's just a real developmental league to where
Yeah.
1242
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,565
Guys are making I mean, think about minor
league baseball players.
1243
00:52:36,724 --> 00:52:38,485
Like, they're making $30 a year.
1244
00:52:38,485 --> 00:52:38,724
Right?
1245
00:52:38,724 --> 00:52:39,045
Maybe.
1246
00:52:39,045 --> 00:52:39,784
I don't know.
1247
00:52:39,934 --> 00:52:41,784
Mikey, but that's kind of the number.
1248
00:52:41,844 --> 00:52:43,684
Same thing as an assistant golf pro, I guess.
1249
00:52:43,684 --> 00:52:44,820
But Right?
1250
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,199
It's kinda crazy when you think about it.
1251
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:52,000
But if you just put in that little amount of
money so that guys could actually work on their
1252
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:57,195
game, And, like, the one big rhetoric too that
goes along with when you remove politics from
1253
00:52:57,195 --> 00:52:59,994
all of this is that there's not a cut, with
live.
1254
00:52:59,994 --> 00:53:01,719
And that's a big argument against it.
1255
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,019
That there's no real competition.
1256
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,239
You're just going out playing golf.
1257
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,340
Like, it's an entertainment thing, but I have
been saying that it's it's an entertainment
1258
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,684
thing from the get go, which is why Once again,
the PG tour should not be worried about it.
1259
00:53:13,985 --> 00:53:15,184
I I I hear you.
1260
00:53:15,184 --> 00:53:18,864
You know, I'm not gonna put an opinion on the
PG tour, but it does seem like it's an
1261
00:53:18,864 --> 00:53:19,344
entertainment.
1262
00:53:19,344 --> 00:53:22,869
Like, it's a made for TV exhibition,
entertainment.
1263
00:53:23,010 --> 00:53:26,610
You get, you know, handful of big names,
obviously, and that kind of stuff.
1264
00:53:26,610 --> 00:53:27,250
But I related
1265
00:53:27,250 --> 00:53:28,230
it to the XFL.
1266
00:53:29,135 --> 00:53:29,454
Yeah.
1267
00:53:29,454 --> 00:53:30,015
There you go.
1268
00:53:30,015 --> 00:53:32,335
That's a pretty that's a pretty good parallel
right there.
1269
00:53:32,335 --> 00:53:33,695
Honestly, that's the kid.
1270
00:53:33,695 --> 00:53:34,575
I mean, that's the kid.
1271
00:53:34,655 --> 00:53:38,269
Saw how long the NFL lasted without the NFL
even talking about him.
1272
00:53:38,510 --> 00:53:38,989
Yeah.
1273
00:53:38,989 --> 00:53:39,489
Exactly.
1274
00:53:39,869 --> 00:53:40,110
Yeah.
1275
00:53:40,110 --> 00:53:40,590
Exactly.
1276
00:53:40,590 --> 00:53:43,230
Well, and I'll tell you, I did, yeah, I did
catch.
1277
00:53:43,230 --> 00:53:46,510
Obviously, I've caught some of those press
conferences from London, Buttsy Polter and
1278
00:53:46,510 --> 00:53:46,909
Western.
1279
00:53:46,909 --> 00:53:47,965
And then fucking.
1280
00:53:48,025 --> 00:53:51,945
Polter's never been shy about talking and that
kind of stuff, but it just seems that those
1281
00:53:51,945 --> 00:53:54,105
guys are on their fucking heels when they're
getting
1282
00:53:54,264 --> 00:53:55,539
There's nothing you can say.
1283
00:53:55,539 --> 00:53:58,420
So, like, even even what I'm saying and so
forth, like seems
1284
00:53:58,420 --> 00:53:58,739
scripted.
1285
00:53:58,739 --> 00:54:00,260
It almost seems scripted to me.
1286
00:54:00,260 --> 00:54:00,579
You know,
1287
00:54:00,579 --> 00:54:01,539
I read that.
1288
00:54:01,539 --> 00:54:02,420
Their PR teams.
1289
00:54:02,420 --> 00:54:06,534
Absolutely a 100% because there's no way they
can win.
1290
00:54:06,755 --> 00:54:11,954
I actually felt like Phil coming into the US
Open this week and doing his press conference
1291
00:54:11,954 --> 00:54:15,250
early and saying what he said And Yeah.
1292
00:54:15,449 --> 00:54:20,809
You and I know about fill off, like, the real
fill off the course outside of the cameras and
1293
00:54:20,809 --> 00:54:21,130
everything
1294
00:54:21,369 --> 00:54:21,530
Yeah.
1295
00:54:21,609 --> 00:54:25,825
That people love to, like, now all of a sudden
come out of the woodworks about, but he's still
1296
00:54:25,825 --> 00:54:29,630
a legend in the game, and he had no winning
scenario there.
1297
00:54:29,710 --> 00:54:31,949
He had to answer it the way that he did.
1298
00:54:31,949 --> 00:54:33,789
He had to deflect some of it.
1299
00:54:33,789 --> 00:54:40,445
He had to turn it into one question per per
journalist And it's Mikey, yeah.
1300
00:54:40,445 --> 00:54:45,005
He he actually won in that moment because he
didn't really say anything where he got
1301
00:54:45,005 --> 00:54:45,489
trapped.
1302
00:54:45,650 --> 00:54:47,010
And that's what they're looking for.
1303
00:54:47,010 --> 00:54:48,789
They're trying to trap these guys.
1304
00:54:48,849 --> 00:54:50,389
3 to 4 questions later.
1305
00:54:50,849 --> 00:54:52,690
It's just it it just goes to show you.
1306
00:54:52,690 --> 00:54:57,344
And we we talked about this before is you know,
the media is paid to dwell on the negative,
1307
00:54:57,344 --> 00:54:57,585
really?
1308
00:54:57,585 --> 00:54:58,144
Aren't they?
1309
00:54:58,144 --> 00:54:59,585
I mean, that's that's a joke.
1310
00:54:59,585 --> 00:55:00,324
Who's paying
1311
00:55:00,625 --> 00:55:01,505
the media right now?
1312
00:55:01,505 --> 00:55:02,400
That's the other thing.
1313
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:08,339
Is Mikey, who's who's making the media build up
all of this rhetoric?
1314
00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:10,019
I wouldn't be surprised.
1315
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,099
And I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
1316
00:55:12,445 --> 00:55:17,805
But I wouldn't be surprised if some of the
money going to these media outlets to just keep
1317
00:55:17,805 --> 00:55:20,704
talking about it isn't coming from Live itself.
1318
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,119
I would be shocked
1319
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:22,840
if it wasn't.
1320
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,800
Why wouldn't it be?
1321
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,239
Did I hear something, Brown?
1322
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:31,934
Did I hear Randall Chamblee last night say that
the Saudis make up $1,000,000,000 a day on
1323
00:55:31,934 --> 00:55:35,214
Petrov, a $1,000,000,000 a day on Petrov.
1324
00:55:35,214 --> 00:55:39,710
That's why people who are, like, literally oh
god, you're gonna get me into because, like,
1325
00:55:39,710 --> 00:55:45,309
this is this is the realest side to me to where
I'm like, I so badly wanna be on the PGA Tour
1326
00:55:45,309 --> 00:55:46,289
side and everything.
1327
00:55:46,815 --> 00:55:52,914
And I so badly, like, just want to be able to
defend it, but the real side to me is, like,
1328
00:55:53,135 --> 00:55:55,315
this is nothing to them monetarily.
1329
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,079
Like, they're actually losing money in this
entire thing.
1330
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:00,280
Like, this is a long time.
1331
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,480
Possibly Mikey?
1332
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,699
They sit in me?
1333
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,014
They're not But the size of these contracts and
these guaranteed deals.
1334
00:56:06,074 --> 00:56:08,414
There's no chance they don't even have a TV
deal.
1335
00:56:08,554 --> 00:56:10,394
There's no TV deal.
1336
00:56:10,394 --> 00:56:12,255
They did it on YouTube streaming.
1337
00:56:12,554 --> 00:56:12,674
Yeah.
1338
00:56:12,674 --> 00:56:12,914
That's right.
1339
00:56:13,034 --> 00:56:14,255
YouTube TV.
1340
00:56:14,570 --> 00:56:14,809
Yeah.
1341
00:56:14,809 --> 00:56:16,170
Did you watch any of it?
1342
00:56:16,170 --> 00:56:16,570
I did.
1343
00:56:16,570 --> 00:56:20,010
I tried to so I caught the 1st round and I
caught the second round.
1344
00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:23,804
I didn't watch the final round on Saturday
because Yeah.
1345
00:56:23,864 --> 00:56:27,425
Mikey, to me, I already got the grasp of what
it is and and Yeah.
1346
00:56:27,724 --> 00:56:29,724
The they have they have work to do.
1347
00:56:29,724 --> 00:56:30,444
Let's be honest.
1348
00:56:30,617 --> 00:56:33,025
Mikey, especially from a broadcast standpoint,
1349
00:56:33,489 --> 00:56:33,809
Yeah.
1350
00:56:33,809 --> 00:56:35,010
Training wheels are on right now.
1351
00:56:35,010 --> 00:56:35,170
Right?
1352
00:56:35,170 --> 00:56:35,409
Yeah.
1353
00:56:35,409 --> 00:56:36,210
They really are.
1354
00:56:36,210 --> 00:56:41,625
They're kinda feeling it out, and I even think,
like, the entire dynamic of the actual event.
1355
00:56:41,625 --> 00:56:41,945
Geez.
1356
00:56:41,945 --> 00:56:44,105
You look good in that commentator booth, man.
1357
00:56:44,105 --> 00:56:46,684
Now that I'm staring at you for that lip tour,
bro.
1358
00:56:46,985 --> 00:56:48,505
You look good in that booth.
1359
00:56:48,505 --> 00:56:49,805
And You know, I offered
1360
00:56:51,469 --> 00:56:53,250
They they didn't get your number up.
1361
00:56:54,670 --> 00:56:55,650
We did a PSA.
1362
00:56:55,789 --> 00:56:56,989
We're like, hey, Craig.
1363
00:56:56,989 --> 00:57:00,114
If you if you need me and Mikey to come and
play and live.
1364
00:57:00,114 --> 00:57:00,515
Right.
1365
00:57:00,515 --> 00:57:05,635
We're in because I know how much money that
they do in oil just for the US government.
1366
00:57:05,635 --> 00:57:13,140
And, like, I I got a colleague, on on the
podcasting side that is just like, you know,
1367
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:18,944
and it's not Mikey, but he he's like, you do
realize, like, our president is over there
1368
00:57:18,944 --> 00:57:24,625
right now, like, doing an arms deal for
literally way more money than this into and
1369
00:57:24,625 --> 00:57:28,360
it's, like, when you get the real side of
everything, it's like, this is business.
1370
00:57:28,579 --> 00:57:31,059
This is not a moral decision.
1371
00:57:31,059 --> 00:57:32,914
Like, these guys aren't sitting there going.
1372
00:57:33,074 --> 00:57:35,635
Oh, man, if I go play in this, people are gonna
die.
1373
00:57:35,635 --> 00:57:38,135
That's not that's not what's going to happen.
1374
00:57:38,195 --> 00:57:38,434
Yeah.
1375
00:57:38,434 --> 00:57:42,375
Like, it's gonna happen whether or not they do
it and support this or not.
1376
00:57:43,110 --> 00:57:44,710
Raise your not to change the subject.
1377
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:46,950
Raise your hand if you miss Mikey Perez a
little bit.
1378
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:47,910
I miss Mikey tonight.
1379
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:52,364
Now I'm giving a lot of words tonight, because
Mikey not Perez, Buttsy, Mikey, I love you.
1380
00:57:52,364 --> 00:57:53,885
We didn't have to put him in a time
1381
00:57:53,885 --> 00:57:54,385
out.
1382
00:57:54,605 --> 00:57:54,844
Yeah.
1383
00:57:54,844 --> 00:57:57,804
I guess he's grind he's grinding, getting ready
for some tournaments and
1384
00:57:57,804 --> 00:57:58,125
stuff like that.
1385
00:57:58,125 --> 00:58:00,670
He's gonna be back next in next week's show.
1386
00:58:00,670 --> 00:58:04,910
So I'm excited to have him back, you know, me
and him get that banter going back and forth.
1387
00:58:04,910 --> 00:58:05,230
And it's
1388
00:58:05,230 --> 00:58:05,390
a great time.
1389
00:58:05,390 --> 00:58:06,829
That's what friends do, man.
1390
00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:07,070
I know.
1391
00:58:07,070 --> 00:58:08,190
That's what friends slash
1392
00:58:08,190 --> 00:58:08,829
brothers do.
1393
00:58:08,829 --> 00:58:09,675
You know what I mean?
1394
00:58:09,914 --> 00:58:10,235
Yeah.
1395
00:58:10,235 --> 00:58:10,474
Yeah.
1396
00:58:10,474 --> 00:58:10,715
Yeah.
1397
00:58:10,715 --> 00:58:10,875
Yeah.
1398
00:58:10,875 --> 00:58:11,515
I miss Mikey.
1399
00:58:11,515 --> 00:58:12,875
So, Mikey, we love you.
1400
00:58:12,875 --> 00:58:13,434
We miss you.
1401
00:58:13,434 --> 00:58:17,594
I'm not taking your limelight out here or
anything like that, but I'm just kinda giving a
1402
00:58:17,594 --> 00:58:23,179
little insight on the on the US Open and
rekindling my flame with Matt and that
1403
00:58:23,179 --> 00:58:23,659
goes up.
1404
00:58:23,659 --> 00:58:25,099
Is it the crazy world involved?
1405
00:58:25,099 --> 00:58:26,219
It's a crazy world involved?
1406
00:58:26,219 --> 00:58:26,780
It's not
1407
00:58:26,780 --> 00:58:27,519
right now.
1408
00:58:27,734 --> 00:58:28,375
It it really
1409
00:58:28,375 --> 00:58:32,295
is happens here in the next I'm sure they're
gonna start dropping names Perez.
1410
00:58:32,295 --> 00:58:33,815
You know, we're we're Well,
1411
00:58:33,815 --> 00:58:35,099
as soon as it opens over,
1412
00:58:35,180 --> 00:58:36,140
Hartford next week.
1413
00:58:36,140 --> 00:58:37,340
We got Hartford next week.
1414
00:58:37,340 --> 00:58:37,579
This is
1415
00:58:37,579 --> 00:58:41,340
the host for coming in because these college
kids start showing up in Hartford.
1416
00:58:41,739 --> 00:58:46,005
The kid from Oklahoma, who I believe lost in
the playoff in that, nationals.
1417
00:58:46,005 --> 00:58:47,045
I saw Chris Goderoff.
1418
00:58:47,045 --> 00:58:48,565
He's in the field here this week.
1419
00:58:48,565 --> 00:58:50,164
He could be any kind of player.
1420
00:58:50,164 --> 00:58:51,829
He is got a spot next week.
1421
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:55,289
Cole Hammer from Texas is is playing next week.
1422
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:56,550
My old son,
1423
00:58:56,550 --> 00:58:56,862
new talent.
1424
00:58:56,862 --> 00:58:56,934
Yeah.
1425
00:58:56,934 --> 00:58:57,150
And then the
1426
00:58:57,150 --> 00:59:03,545
corn fairy's already got their influx up guys
Mikey my oldest son just took the job with the
1427
00:59:03,545 --> 00:59:07,625
number one rated ranked college player Pearson
Cooty from Texas.
1428
00:59:07,625 --> 00:59:09,224
He's starting to work for again.
1429
00:59:09,224 --> 00:59:09,545
Oh, he's
1430
00:59:09,545 --> 00:59:11,039
following in your foot steps?
1431
00:59:11,179 --> 00:59:11,660
Yes.
1432
00:59:11,660 --> 00:59:11,820
Yeah.
1433
00:59:11,820 --> 00:59:13,260
Well, he's been chatting for Ben.
1434
00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:15,980
I mean, he's got more wins than I do last
month.
1435
00:59:15,980 --> 00:59:16,860
It's kind of the man.
1436
00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:17,945
How did I not know this?
1437
00:59:17,945 --> 00:59:19,545
Well, you and I didn't talk about it.
1438
00:59:19,545 --> 00:59:19,864
Yeah.
1439
00:59:19,864 --> 00:59:20,664
My oldest son.
1440
00:59:20,664 --> 00:59:24,585
My oldest son, Daniel played it, you know,
always grew up.
1441
00:59:24,585 --> 00:59:28,820
You know, he grew up when I lived with and he
was over with us all the time and and that kind
1442
00:59:28,820 --> 00:59:29,140
of stuff.
1443
00:59:29,140 --> 00:59:33,860
And he always, you know, obviously Dustin was
his hero and, you know, he played golf with
1444
00:59:33,860 --> 00:59:36,364
Dustin probably 2 or 300 times, and he told me,
Mikey that.
1445
00:59:36,364 --> 00:59:37,485
I just wanna be Kathy.
1446
00:59:37,485 --> 00:59:38,525
School's not for me.
1447
00:59:38,525 --> 00:59:43,805
He he he was a number 5 qualifying guy at
Charleston Southern and in that case, which,
1448
00:59:43,805 --> 00:59:45,800
which, you know, it's it's funny.
1449
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,760
I I tell college parents and that kind of
stuff, and I tell people out here.
1450
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:49,720
I'm like, it's so funny.
1451
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,574
I've been doing this for so long now that you
can call me in on a Buttsy Sunday for a
1452
00:59:53,574 --> 00:59:57,335
1,000,000 dollars, $1,200,000 with 10,000
people Brown, and it doesn't faze me.
1453
00:59:57,335 --> 01:00:00,795
But as soon as you put me out on a golf course,
I'm watching my son fight call experiment.
1454
01:00:00,855 --> 01:00:02,074
I'm a fucking wreck.
1455
01:00:02,110 --> 01:00:03,070
I am a nervous wreck.
1456
01:00:03,070 --> 01:00:06,430
You wanna run out there and hug them and tell
them, don't fucking hit 3.
1457
01:00:06,430 --> 01:00:07,710
You're down there for the love of God.
1458
01:00:07,710 --> 01:00:10,110
Just chip his 6 iron and a fucking wedge in the
middle.
1459
01:00:10,110 --> 01:00:11,489
Nothing bad can happen.
1460
01:00:11,575 --> 01:00:15,575
So he's been doing well for he's he had a
couple of wins with Davis Mikey.
1461
01:00:15,575 --> 01:00:16,934
Who's who's Mikey?
1462
01:00:16,934 --> 01:00:17,255
Oh,
1463
01:00:17,255 --> 01:00:17,914
no kidding.
1464
01:00:18,215 --> 01:00:18,454
Yeah.
1465
01:00:18,454 --> 01:00:20,155
He did on the Korn Ferry tour.
1466
01:00:20,269 --> 01:00:24,510
And then they kind of split after, after a
couple of years, but he might be a little long
1467
01:00:24,510 --> 01:00:26,769
shot pick for me this week, Davis Bradley.
1468
01:00:26,829 --> 01:00:27,869
He's got some experience.
1469
01:00:27,869 --> 01:00:32,305
I believe he's got some experience Perez,
maybe, in the US, a couple of US juniors.
1470
01:00:32,305 --> 01:00:34,885
He got Bobby Scottie Scheffler and his best
friend Roosevelt.
1471
01:00:35,025 --> 01:00:37,960
He's been playing fabulous golf lately.
1472
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:38,920
He you gotta what?
1473
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,760
If you get a chance in the next couple days,
Google this Davis Riley and watch this action.
1474
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,119
It might be the previous move that I've
1475
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:44,679
ever seen.
1476
01:00:44,679 --> 01:00:45,719
I know Davis Riley.
1477
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:47,465
I I've been watching him lately because
1478
01:00:47,625 --> 01:00:49,625
He's kinda came on to the scene and
1479
01:00:49,625 --> 01:00:51,005
and kinda out of nowhere.
1480
01:00:51,385 --> 01:00:53,065
And now he's been around, obviously.
1481
01:00:53,144 --> 01:00:56,987
Nowhere to to bring the people out of nowhere,
but we've everybody out here Brown.
1482
01:00:57,289 --> 01:00:59,530
You know, you you're runner-up in the US
junior.
1483
01:00:59,530 --> 01:01:00,489
You play a family.
1484
01:01:00,489 --> 01:01:03,789
You know, you're you're highly you're highly
regarded.
1485
01:01:03,929 --> 01:01:09,195
He is you know, my best friend is Caddy, my
best friend who I'm staying with this week,
1486
01:01:09,195 --> 01:01:11,215
Lance Bennett, is his Caddy.
1487
01:01:11,355 --> 01:01:17,579
And he is still Davis is still battling the
whole temper issues on the golf course when
1488
01:01:17,579 --> 01:01:20,059
things don't get good, and that's all really
age.
1489
01:01:20,059 --> 01:01:24,699
Isn't it putting yourself in a position knowing
how to react when things aren't going good?
1490
01:01:24,699 --> 01:01:28,574
Because a corny saying book off is not a game
of perfect, but at a young age, you want
1491
01:01:28,574 --> 01:01:30,655
everything to be to be perfect.
1492
01:01:30,655 --> 01:01:32,974
And it just, unfortunately, Buttsy never gonna
happen in this game.
1493
01:01:32,974 --> 01:01:34,840
You're never gonna get, hey, have team.
1494
01:01:35,059 --> 01:01:35,700
Perfect holes.
1495
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:38,739
You might have 9 or 10 or 12 or 15 or something
like that.
1496
01:01:38,739 --> 01:01:41,860
You know, but he's a little sleeper long shot
pick of of mine.
1497
01:01:41,860 --> 01:01:42,579
He's got the game.
1498
01:01:42,579 --> 01:01:43,640
He's a ball striker.
1499
01:01:43,724 --> 01:01:47,805
I believe, obviously, in the US Open, you gotta
drive it good, but these are pretty generous
1500
01:01:47,805 --> 01:01:51,664
fairways, like I was saying, but it's a, it
seems to me it's a second shock off course.
1501
01:01:51,820 --> 01:01:55,420
Far as placement goes on the greens and stuff
like and stuff like that.
1502
01:01:55,420 --> 01:01:57,340
So should be pretty exciting.
1503
01:01:57,340 --> 01:01:58,619
And so What's the date of
1504
01:01:58,619 --> 01:01:59,760
success this week?
1505
01:02:00,055 --> 01:02:00,795
Do you think?
1506
01:02:02,454 --> 01:02:03,914
Not making any big numbers.
1507
01:02:04,055 --> 01:02:07,175
I I I think it's the key to success, and it
really comes down to putting, doesn't it?
1508
01:02:07,175 --> 01:02:07,894
In most of these
1509
01:02:07,974 --> 01:02:08,614
It does.
1510
01:02:08,855 --> 01:02:14,280
These things, you know, patience and putting
patience and putting, you know, I'm I'm I'm not
1511
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,639
gonna be, you know, I'm not gonna be I'm not
gonna be I'll be surprised if I'm mid level mid
1512
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:22,985
level player out what I would consider a mid
level player out Perez, wins it.
1513
01:02:22,985 --> 01:02:23,785
You know what I mean?
1514
01:02:23,785 --> 01:02:28,344
Like I said, I'm I got that philosophy that
these championships are designed for the elite
1515
01:02:28,344 --> 01:02:33,819
players that can really that can really move
it, can really move it off the tee for sure.
1516
01:02:33,819 --> 01:02:38,074
So, you know, patience and putting is a big
thing, and and, you know, you you gotta be
1517
01:02:38,074 --> 01:02:39,674
firing on all cylinders this week, Matt.
1518
01:02:39,674 --> 01:02:39,835
Right?
1519
01:02:39,835 --> 01:02:41,355
You gotta be firing on all fucking cylinders.
1520
01:02:41,355 --> 01:02:41,594
You do.
1521
01:02:41,594 --> 01:02:43,135
And you gotta get some bounces.
1522
01:02:43,194 --> 01:02:43,434
Yeah.
1523
01:02:43,434 --> 01:02:46,940
And you gotta get some bounces and a lot of
luck goes into winning any turn them in any
1524
01:02:46,940 --> 01:02:47,179
week.
1525
01:02:47,179 --> 01:02:48,079
A lot of luck.
1526
01:02:48,140 --> 01:02:51,500
Things when things are going good, you know,
everything seems to fall in a perfect number, a
1527
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:52,140
perfect club.
1528
01:02:52,140 --> 01:02:53,440
It's pretty easy there.
1529
01:02:53,605 --> 01:02:57,204
There for a while, you know, but then all of a
sudden, Sunday rolls around with about an hour
1530
01:02:57,204 --> 01:02:58,565
a half or 2 hours to come.
1531
01:02:58,565 --> 01:03:02,716
The the cream usually seems to rise to the top
of these in these big time these big
1532
01:03:02,716 --> 01:03:02,851
time tournaments for sure, but it would be
1533
01:03:02,868 --> 01:03:02,969
I think we'll see a playoff.
1534
01:03:02,969 --> 01:03:09,119
That's my my mom prediction.
1535
01:03:09,264 --> 01:03:10,464
Think we're gonna see a playoff.
1536
01:03:10,464 --> 01:03:11,605
What's a winning score?
1537
01:03:11,664 --> 01:03:12,404
Back in.
1538
01:03:14,224 --> 01:03:16,864
To me, I've been thinking about this for 3
days.
1539
01:03:16,864 --> 01:03:17,364
Right?
1540
01:03:17,609 --> 01:03:20,010
I I walked at the 1st day in 2 days, and I'm
like, oh my god.
1541
01:03:20,010 --> 01:03:21,530
This is the hardest golf course I've ever seen.
1542
01:03:21,530 --> 01:03:25,449
I'm like, I'm I'm the same genius that said
that about about Southern Hills before Troy got
1543
01:03:25,449 --> 01:03:25,609
there.
1544
01:03:25,609 --> 01:03:26,414
I got for 2 days.
1545
01:03:26,414 --> 01:03:27,095
I'm like, oh my god.
1546
01:03:27,095 --> 01:03:28,655
I hope we make this fucking cut.
1547
01:03:28,655 --> 01:03:28,894
You know
1548
01:03:28,894 --> 01:03:29,295
what I mean?
1549
01:03:29,295 --> 01:03:32,414
This golf course is so hard, but then you get
off there and you watch the best players in the
1550
01:03:32,414 --> 01:03:33,535
world play, and you're like, oh, shit.
1551
01:03:33,535 --> 01:03:34,015
I forgot.
1552
01:03:34,015 --> 01:03:38,130
These are the best players in the world, but
for the 1st 2 days, I thought I was gonna
1553
01:03:38,130 --> 01:03:44,135
probably be around even par and now I'm gonna
say it's gonna be 5 or is what I'm gonna say.
1554
01:03:44,135 --> 01:03:45,594
I think it's gonna be 500.
1555
01:03:45,974 --> 01:03:46,215
Yeah.
1556
01:03:46,215 --> 01:03:47,815
I think 5 or 600 might get it.
1557
01:03:47,815 --> 01:03:49,094
Then I could be way off.
1558
01:03:49,094 --> 01:03:50,815
You know, it could be I don't I don't see
1559
01:03:50,855 --> 01:03:52,880
I think we're gonna be summarized this week.
1560
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:53,380
15.
1561
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,199
You know, I was talking to my friend.
1562
01:03:55,199 --> 01:04:00,340
I'm, you know, I worked for Seamoo for 2 years,
the real character, the real Korean character.
1563
01:04:00,474 --> 01:04:03,035
I was talking to you, but you know, we yeah.
1564
01:04:03,035 --> 01:04:03,355
Yeah.
1565
01:04:03,355 --> 01:04:08,255
Who and, his, you know, his caddy is one of my
best Bobby, Brian Brandeschak here, Mikey
1566
01:04:08,454 --> 01:04:10,590
Bobby, you know, we talked about Brian before.
1567
01:04:10,809 --> 01:04:14,750
And, I was sitting here having a cup of coffee
with Brian this morning, and I go, and I go,
1568
01:04:14,969 --> 01:04:16,570
how's, you know, how's the kimchi doing?
1569
01:04:16,570 --> 01:04:17,130
I call him kimchi.
1570
01:04:17,130 --> 01:04:18,329
I go, how's the kimchi going?
1571
01:04:18,329 --> 01:04:20,454
Is that guy says 20 under's going out here.
1572
01:04:20,454 --> 01:04:22,635
And I go, it is by fucking 20.
1573
01:04:22,934 --> 01:04:23,255
You know?
1574
01:04:23,255 --> 01:04:23,974
And it's so funny.
1575
01:04:23,974 --> 01:04:27,710
I wonder if I see we're in the locker room
today, and I'm like, in 20 under Brown?
1576
01:04:27,769 --> 01:04:29,769
He goes, oh, maybe not 20 under bro.
1577
01:04:29,769 --> 01:04:30,089
So I
1578
01:04:30,089 --> 01:04:34,409
think it I think it's gonna be a handful of
these greens, you know, if this wind starts
1579
01:04:34,409 --> 01:04:39,664
blowing and these greens if maybe the USDA has
been known to lose these greens before, you
1580
01:04:39,664 --> 01:04:42,964
know, it's Shinnecock and stuff like that and
some of their setups.
1581
01:04:43,264 --> 01:04:47,070
That was Mikey pre Jason Gore, you know, now
Jason Gore is kind of the setup guy.
1582
01:04:47,130 --> 01:04:47,289
You
1583
01:04:47,289 --> 01:04:48,809
know, he's taking that role here.
1584
01:04:48,809 --> 01:04:51,289
So, you know, he played 10 years on the PGA
tour.
1585
01:04:51,289 --> 01:04:55,184
He gets it, Buttsy start losing some greens and
stuff like that, you could see, you should,
1586
01:04:55,184 --> 01:04:57,184
you're going to see some carnage out here for
sure.
1587
01:04:57,184 --> 01:05:00,005
You're going to see guys out of position and,
and some carnage.
1588
01:05:00,065 --> 01:05:03,949
And, and I think I think even these elite
players, like I said, there's some holes.
1589
01:05:03,949 --> 01:05:09,545
There's 3 or 4 rolls out here that are 350 to
375 where these guys You know, and those holes
1590
01:05:09,545 --> 01:05:13,644
are, are much tighter than the 4.99, 5.10 holes
or 5.20 holes.
1591
01:05:13,864 --> 01:05:17,784
And, you know, these guys are gonna start rifle
driver out there and that kind of stuff.
1592
01:05:17,784 --> 01:05:22,079
And you could you could see some big numbers by
the varsity for, you know, for sure.
1593
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:23,000
So I'm gonna say
1594
01:05:23,199 --> 01:05:23,699
thinking.
1595
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,099
I watched a little clip from, Teddy.
1596
01:05:26,714 --> 01:05:28,335
On, on Instagram.
1597
01:05:28,554 --> 01:05:30,414
Teddy's been all over social media.
1598
01:05:30,635 --> 01:05:31,914
Ever since he calm down.
1599
01:05:31,914 --> 01:05:32,394
Oh, yeah.
1600
01:05:32,394 --> 01:05:36,489
Ever since he left, our good our good friend
Jerry.
1601
01:05:37,269 --> 01:05:39,130
He's been all over it.
1602
01:05:39,269 --> 01:05:40,150
And Yeah.
1603
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:44,864
He actually did a shot, and I it's killing me
because I'm trying to remember what hole it
1604
01:05:44,864 --> 01:05:45,235
was.
1605
01:05:45,235 --> 01:05:45,744
Buttsy, basically
1606
01:05:45,905 --> 01:05:48,385
Was was that him dropping the ball in the
middle of the paragraph?
1607
01:05:48,385 --> 01:05:48,864
You saw that.
1608
01:05:48,864 --> 01:05:49,264
And all of
1609
01:05:49,264 --> 01:05:49,905
a sudden, it's
1610
01:05:49,905 --> 01:05:50,385
in that slow.
1611
01:05:50,385 --> 01:05:52,250
And we don't even need Can I just talk to you?
1612
01:05:52,250 --> 01:05:52,890
Not getting ready.
1613
01:05:52,890 --> 01:05:53,289
I'll tell you.
1614
01:05:53,289 --> 01:05:53,769
I love it.
1615
01:05:53,769 --> 01:05:54,090
But I'm
1616
01:05:54,090 --> 01:05:54,890
gonna talk to you.
1617
01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:57,530
Everybody who walks that whole notion, you
don't hate the fucking farthest.
1618
01:05:57,530 --> 01:05:58,890
I want people to buy it from you.
1619
01:05:58,890 --> 01:06:00,945
You get 2 3rd, 2 20, 2 30 off the tee.
1620
01:06:00,945 --> 01:06:02,065
It's a goddamn bird ramp.
1621
01:06:02,065 --> 01:06:04,864
You look like Tony Hawk is going to drop drop
down on it.
1622
01:06:04,864 --> 01:06:06,785
But that's Teddy being Teddy out there rolling
calls.
1623
01:06:06,785 --> 01:06:09,960
You just stand there and look about everybody
that presses it down the sale.
1624
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:14,199
It's going fucking suit as you're, you know,
but that's that's what happens when we're caddy
1625
01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:15,159
and we've got 3 green.
1626
01:06:15,159 --> 01:06:16,859
We've been part of 3 green jackets.
1627
01:06:16,864 --> 01:06:17,425
For sure.
1628
01:06:17,425 --> 01:06:18,704
And I saw speaking to Teddy.
1629
01:06:18,704 --> 01:06:22,465
I saw he played as an amateur last week in the
Korn Ferry tour event.
1630
01:06:22,465 --> 01:06:24,005
They had that AT and T style.
1631
01:06:24,179 --> 01:06:27,219
I didn't happen to see his scores because,
unfortunately, they'll post those amateur
1632
01:06:27,219 --> 01:06:29,480
leaderboards and nobody gets shit anyways.
1633
01:06:30,099 --> 01:06:30,579
You know?
1634
01:06:30,579 --> 01:06:35,025
So but, yeah, there's there's some there's some
serious movement out some of these fairways and
1635
01:06:35,025 --> 01:06:35,505
some and
1636
01:06:35,505 --> 01:06:36,545
and that's something like that.
1637
01:06:36,625 --> 01:06:38,224
Name that came up, by the way.
1638
01:06:38,224 --> 01:06:39,105
Well, what's that?
1639
01:06:39,105 --> 01:06:40,805
But he's not in the top 50.
1640
01:06:41,184 --> 01:06:41,425
Jerry.
1641
01:06:41,425 --> 01:06:42,164
He's at.
1642
01:06:42,385 --> 01:06:42,885
Bubba.
1643
01:06:43,809 --> 01:06:47,809
That name's been floating around for a while,
but he's just he, he, he's, like, sort of
1644
01:06:47,809 --> 01:06:48,769
resource right now.
1645
01:06:48,769 --> 01:06:48,890
Yeah.
1646
01:06:48,890 --> 01:06:51,349
He had that meniscus done, and I don't think it
went.
1647
01:06:51,494 --> 01:06:55,595
You know, I don't know a 100% for sure, but
from what I've read and what I've heard, he's
1648
01:06:55,655 --> 01:06:57,255
he's on this he's on the shelf for
1649
01:06:57,255 --> 01:06:57,494
a while.
1650
01:06:57,494 --> 01:07:00,789
I heard the rumors that that was the reason for
the up, but I don't buy.
1651
01:07:00,789 --> 01:07:01,030
Sure.
1652
01:07:01,030 --> 01:07:02,170
But there's that demographic.
1653
01:07:02,309 --> 01:07:06,010
Again, that 40 something is not really relevant
the last couple of years.
1654
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:07,030
You know what I mean?
1655
01:07:07,030 --> 01:07:08,469
Going in for the cash grab.
1656
01:07:08,469 --> 01:07:15,134
Well, that's why I thought that this whole
thing, I just wanna say this one more time that
1657
01:07:15,194 --> 01:07:22,099
I just feel like it was poorly done, not only
from the media, but by the PG tour because they
1658
01:07:22,099 --> 01:07:24,715
could have let these guys go off into the sun
said.
1659
01:07:24,715 --> 01:07:24,954
Yes.
1660
01:07:24,954 --> 01:07:27,375
They have big names, but they're at the end of
their career.
1661
01:07:27,755 --> 01:07:32,960
And it would have given more opportunities to
the guys that are playing week in and week out
1662
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,980
And then they're missing how many tournaments?
1663
01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:36,500
There's in total.
1664
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,639
Well, I think the big thing with j 2 was, well,
you're not gonna be able to go over there and
1665
01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:44,824
take spot and then think that you can come back
here and cherry pick when we have all these,
1666
01:07:44,824 --> 01:07:49,065
this young talent coming up because everybody's
fucking replaceable out here at some point in
1667
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:50,050
their career, really.
1668
01:07:50,050 --> 01:07:50,610
Aren't they?
1669
01:07:50,610 --> 01:07:54,849
So and I'm not intelligent or educated enough
to know the ins and outs of the business of the
1670
01:07:54,849 --> 01:07:57,989
PGA Tour, but I I can say one thing about Jay
Monahan.
1671
01:07:58,105 --> 01:08:02,025
I mean, we dealt with, you know, he was
probably a good businessman, but we dealt with
1672
01:08:02,025 --> 01:08:03,545
Tim Tim Fincham forever out here.
1673
01:08:03,545 --> 01:08:06,264
And this fucking guy would walk by Kathy and
you'd say hi to him.
1674
01:08:06,264 --> 01:08:10,199
He would fucking look the other way, because
Jay Monahan will come, you know, he's so
1675
01:08:10,199 --> 01:08:10,680
personal.
1676
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,079
He looks you in the IES, see how your week's
going.
1677
01:08:13,079 --> 01:08:14,460
Is there anything to improve?
1678
01:08:14,815 --> 01:08:17,774
You know, and that's funneling downhill with
all the rest of the brass.
1679
01:08:17,774 --> 01:08:22,494
Andy Levinson, Amy fastener, you know, and all
the other brass and the reps that are out here
1680
01:08:22,494 --> 01:08:23,534
with the PGA tour.
1681
01:08:23,534 --> 01:08:26,019
There's smoke personable to, to Caddies.
1682
01:08:26,019 --> 01:08:28,679
And it's a, it's more of a family atmosphere.
1683
01:08:29,059 --> 01:08:34,645
I mean, we're taking care of, as Caddies, we're
taking care of so well now is it's absolutely
1684
01:08:34,704 --> 01:08:35,104
ridiculous.
1685
01:08:35,104 --> 01:08:35,425
It's funny.
1686
01:08:35,425 --> 01:08:36,385
I was telling the county.
1687
01:08:36,385 --> 01:08:42,699
I'm like, man, I wanna say I did my 1st US Open
and 2005 at Pinehurst where you got a fucking
1688
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,679
sandwich, and the water cooler was empty in the
caddy thing.
1689
01:08:46,679 --> 01:08:50,685
And now we got spreads du jour everywhere.
1690
01:08:50,824 --> 01:08:56,310
So, you know, and I, and I appreciate Jay
Monahan for that stuff because He's finally,
1691
01:08:56,310 --> 01:08:59,989
he's finally the one guy, the new breath of
fresh air that's Mikey, hey, these counties
1692
01:08:59,989 --> 01:09:00,869
work their asses.
1693
01:09:01,429 --> 01:09:05,685
You know, the counties talk about we're not
employees for the PG or we'll share the us and
1694
01:09:05,685 --> 01:09:07,685
they relegate us and and that kind of stuff.
1695
01:09:07,685 --> 01:09:11,364
Or however, I want to phrase that, you know,
no, we don't have a retirement.
1696
01:09:11,364 --> 01:09:16,500
That's something that we've been talking about
for forever, you know, and I'm sure that there
1697
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:21,220
are special players that have caddies forever
with relationships that they are making sure
1698
01:09:21,220 --> 01:09:26,895
that this caddies take care of after 15 or 20
years, you know, financially because he was my
1699
01:09:26,895 --> 01:09:27,935
guy and that kind of stuff.
1700
01:09:27,935 --> 01:09:31,869
Well, of course, all of us counties would like
to see a little bit more of that, but that's a
1701
01:09:31,949 --> 01:09:36,989
you know, that's a that's a whole another topic
that might might come for future catties,
1702
01:09:36,989 --> 01:09:40,765
perhaps, you know, Buttsy sun included and that
kind of stuff and all the all the young
1703
01:09:40,765 --> 01:09:40,925
credits.
1704
01:09:40,925 --> 01:09:45,085
Because I've said it before, the path is to
becoming a PGA tour Caddie is not much
1705
01:09:45,085 --> 01:09:46,845
different than becoming a PGA tour player.
1706
01:09:46,845 --> 01:09:48,045
It's just a smaller level.
1707
01:09:48,045 --> 01:09:48,845
You do your time.
1708
01:09:48,845 --> 01:09:54,280
As I told you, you know, to go through Canada
for 2 years, US and US juniors, Livermore City
1709
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,079
and whatever you can do to get experience and
that kind of stuff.
1710
01:09:57,079 --> 01:10:01,404
So we're finally getting you know, a little bit
of respect and a little bit of recognize in the
1711
01:10:01,404 --> 01:10:06,125
in the PGA Tour Brown has gone out of their way
to make us feel like family.
1712
01:10:06,125 --> 01:10:10,619
And for that, I'm appreciative, and I Most of
my colleagues are very appreciative of that
1713
01:10:10,619 --> 01:10:10,859
too.
1714
01:10:10,859 --> 01:10:13,742
So, you know, and amen to to them on that.
1715
01:10:13,742 --> 01:10:14,300
Mikey I said, I
1716
01:10:14,300 --> 01:10:16,060
do wanna piggyback on that.
1717
01:10:16,060 --> 01:10:16,560
Yeah.
1718
01:10:16,619 --> 01:10:22,204
Because I while I've given Jay a very hard time
about the decision being made as to how to
1719
01:10:22,204 --> 01:10:23,025
handle this.
1720
01:10:23,405 --> 01:10:23,905
Yeah.
1721
01:10:23,965 --> 01:10:28,789
As a CEO of a company, you realize that when
everybody says is how we're doing it.
1722
01:10:28,930 --> 01:10:30,949
You have to be the messenger of that.
1723
01:10:31,010 --> 01:10:35,970
So it might not be entirely Jay that but and I
don't think he thinks he's doing anything
1724
01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:36,690
wrong, by the way.
1725
01:10:36,690 --> 01:10:40,704
Like, They made a decision with the brass and
so forth that, hey.
1726
01:10:40,704 --> 01:10:41,984
This is the direction we're going.
1727
01:10:41,984 --> 01:10:43,265
We're gonna draw a line in the sand.
1728
01:10:43,265 --> 01:10:44,625
We're gonna push these guys out.
1729
01:10:44,625 --> 01:10:46,164
We're gonna make a hard stance.
1730
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:52,199
And while that's been done, I wouldn't say that
he hasn't done a bad job of being that
1731
01:10:52,199 --> 01:10:52,699
messenger.
1732
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,574
I'm just the the way the approach and so forth.
1733
01:10:56,574 --> 01:10:59,534
And just from a PR perspective, I think that
that went wrong.
1734
01:10:59,534 --> 01:11:00,814
So I just wanna clarify that.
1735
01:11:00,814 --> 01:11:03,319
I have nothing against Jay Monahan as person.
1736
01:11:03,319 --> 01:11:04,439
He seems like a great guy.
1737
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:04,920
I know you know.
1738
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:05,239
And and
1739
01:11:05,239 --> 01:11:11,319
when you look at guys like Jordan Spieth,
Justin Thomas, a Rory McElroy, who's Rory's a
1740
01:11:11,319 --> 01:11:16,235
little bit older right at this point, but at
the same time, it's like, you see these guys
1741
01:11:16,235 --> 01:11:17,295
following his lead.
1742
01:11:17,755 --> 01:11:18,155
Yeah.
1743
01:11:18,155 --> 01:11:18,475
Yeah.
1744
01:11:18,475 --> 01:11:19,114
For sure.
1745
01:11:19,114 --> 01:11:19,614
Absolutely.
1746
01:11:19,835 --> 01:11:21,854
Corey is kinda because of the folks first.
1747
01:11:22,050 --> 01:11:22,690
And embrace.
1748
01:11:22,690 --> 01:11:24,930
And, yeah, and he's great, and he's embraced
that role.
1749
01:11:24,930 --> 01:11:28,449
And he's a, he's a, he's a great, he's just a
great guy.
1750
01:11:28,449 --> 01:11:29,170
You know what I mean?
1751
01:11:29,170 --> 01:11:31,345
He's another one that's He never got this.
1752
01:11:31,345 --> 01:11:31,505
Right?
1753
01:11:31,505 --> 01:11:32,645
He never got that.
1754
01:11:32,784 --> 01:11:35,985
You know, I'm afraid to say it, but I've worked
for, you know, a couple of guys before.
1755
01:11:35,985 --> 01:11:37,319
When they get there, they get Mikey this.
1756
01:11:37,319 --> 01:11:39,639
Their shit doesn't stink in there better than
everybody else.
1757
01:11:39,639 --> 01:11:44,359
And that goes with being a great player, I
guess, and an ego and whatever that, you know,
1758
01:11:44,359 --> 01:11:45,979
what, whatever that all entails.
1759
01:11:46,244 --> 01:11:50,645
I'll I'll never know, but, you know, I think
Rory's done a great job of speaking his mind
1760
01:11:50,645 --> 01:11:53,204
and his loyalties and and stuff like that.
1761
01:11:53,204 --> 01:11:54,744
So, man, we'll see.
1762
01:11:55,659 --> 01:11:56,640
Jordan Speed?
1763
01:11:56,939 --> 01:11:59,520
I mean, he hasn't really spoken on at all.
1764
01:11:59,899 --> 01:12:03,280
Now he's got a great he's got a great PR team
and everything.
1765
01:12:03,345 --> 01:12:03,585
Yeah.
1766
01:12:03,585 --> 01:12:06,385
He's well, he's very pro PGA tour too.
1767
01:12:06,385 --> 01:12:07,025
You know, he
1768
01:12:07,425 --> 01:12:09,925
There hasn't been a headline at all.
1769
01:12:09,985 --> 01:12:11,985
It's all been JP and Rory.
1770
01:12:11,985 --> 01:12:12,485
Yeah.
1771
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:13,079
Yeah.
1772
01:12:13,079 --> 01:12:17,399
And, yeah, I think GT, you know, and I think
JT's saying all the right things too, and he's
1773
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:20,359
he's like, hey, some of these guys are my
friends and that kind of stuff.
1774
01:12:20,359 --> 01:12:21,744
And And JT gets it.
1775
01:12:21,744 --> 01:12:25,425
He's like, Hey, they're human beings that can
make their own decision and that kind of stuff.
1776
01:12:25,425 --> 01:12:27,024
And he and he respects that one.
1777
01:12:27,024 --> 01:12:28,484
Is he bummed about it?
1778
01:12:28,659 --> 01:12:30,500
You know, you know, I'm sure he
1779
01:12:30,659 --> 01:12:32,899
Oh, JT, there's looks depressed up there.
1780
01:12:32,899 --> 01:12:33,220
Yeah.
1781
01:12:33,220 --> 01:12:33,300
He
1782
01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:37,645
looks like, man, you know, I I I like DJ.
1783
01:12:38,024 --> 01:12:40,264
Like, he's he's just Mikey, gosh.
1784
01:12:40,264 --> 01:12:41,944
Why do you have to go and do this?
1785
01:12:41,944 --> 01:12:44,045
Like, you can tell that he's just hurt.
1786
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:50,939
Mikey, and and Rory, I mean, thank god this
actually happened because I feel like he lit a
1787
01:12:50,939 --> 01:12:53,439
freaking firework under his ass.
1788
01:12:53,864 --> 01:12:55,465
You know, and it's and it's funny.
1789
01:12:55,465 --> 01:12:59,145
Like I said, the only thing that bins me, the
only thing that bins me about this is these
1790
01:12:59,145 --> 01:13:03,550
guys like Dustin and and Perez and you know,
these guys, they would score their oath through
1791
01:13:03,550 --> 01:13:05,869
the PGA tool, and you're just like, Hey, man.
1792
01:13:05,869 --> 01:13:08,720
Why why don't you just fucking come out and say
that they'd give me enough Mikey.
1793
01:13:08,750 --> 01:13:09,515
I'm fucking going.
1794
01:13:09,515 --> 01:13:10,235
Know, I've been working
1795
01:13:10,235 --> 01:13:10,395
my I
1796
01:13:10,395 --> 01:13:11,835
mean, we see it all the time, though.
1797
01:13:11,835 --> 01:13:14,155
You see it with, like, college football coaches
Yeah.
1798
01:13:14,235 --> 01:13:18,529
To where, like, 1 week they're saying, I I'm
staying Perez.
1799
01:13:18,529 --> 01:13:19,649
I'm right here.
1800
01:13:19,649 --> 01:13:22,929
This is the place I'm gonna be for the
foreseeable future blah blah blah.
1801
01:13:22,929 --> 01:13:25,704
And then literally the bowl games over the next
week, they're like,
1802
01:13:25,864 --> 01:13:27,225
And oh gosh.
1803
01:13:27,225 --> 01:13:28,744
I've The Notre
1804
01:13:28,744 --> 01:13:29,545
Dame Coach.
1805
01:13:29,545 --> 01:13:30,425
The Notre Dame Coach.
1806
01:13:30,425 --> 01:13:31,645
You went down to LSU.
1807
01:13:32,949 --> 01:13:33,270
Yeah.
1808
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:33,510
No.
1809
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:33,750
No.
1810
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:33,909
No.
1811
01:13:33,909 --> 01:13:34,149
No.
1812
01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:35,110
Oh gosh.
1813
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:36,869
I can't think of his gosh darn name.
1814
01:13:37,909 --> 01:13:39,189
Oh, this is gonna kill me.
1815
01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:39,829
Let's check.
1816
01:13:39,829 --> 01:13:40,470
Brian Kelly.
1817
01:13:40,570 --> 01:13:41,030
Brown Kelly.
1818
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:41,530
Brian.
1819
01:13:42,484 --> 01:13:42,965
So he
1820
01:13:43,604 --> 01:13:45,764
he's like, I'm on another day.
1821
01:13:45,764 --> 01:13:46,885
Literally the next week.
1822
01:13:46,885 --> 01:13:47,284
Yeah.
1823
01:13:47,284 --> 01:13:48,264
Right down LSU.
1824
01:13:48,724 --> 01:13:49,204
Crazy.
1825
01:13:49,204 --> 01:13:49,604
Hey, dude.
1826
01:13:49,604 --> 01:13:50,645
What else is on your mind?
1827
01:13:50,645 --> 01:13:51,444
What else what else
1828
01:13:51,444 --> 01:13:51,604
do you
1829
01:13:51,604 --> 01:13:52,680
wanna No.
1830
01:13:52,899 --> 01:13:55,399
Listen, you got an early tea time tomorrow.
1831
01:13:55,939 --> 01:13:58,039
I you've been gracious with your time.
1832
01:13:58,659 --> 01:14:03,704
I like, I mean, we basically hit the nail on
the head when it came to live.
1833
01:14:03,704 --> 01:14:08,025
We we had our talking points that we wanted to
discuss when it came to that.
1834
01:14:08,025 --> 01:14:10,800
We didn't talk about it too much off air
1835
01:14:11,279 --> 01:14:15,279
Can I can I can I do a little dish hit and run
Buttsy before we go?
1836
01:14:15,279 --> 01:14:15,840
Bobby, you know.
1837
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,795
What about what about are you I I don't know if
you're gonna edit this or not.
1838
01:14:19,795 --> 01:14:22,435
What about Perez's wife's rant on Instagram?
1839
01:14:22,435 --> 01:14:23,895
Did you happen to see that?
1840
01:14:23,954 --> 01:14:24,854
That was interesting.
1841
01:14:25,154 --> 01:14:28,340
So she commented on our post announcing it.
1842
01:14:28,420 --> 01:14:29,159
On Instagram.
1843
01:14:29,380 --> 01:14:30,500
It was really nice.
1844
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:32,359
Like and and we were like, hey.
1845
01:14:32,659 --> 01:14:34,739
Like, we're so happy for you guys.
1846
01:14:34,739 --> 01:14:36,835
Like, this is a great opportunity for you.
1847
01:14:36,835 --> 01:14:38,994
Like, obviously, there's a lot of money
involved.
1848
01:14:38,994 --> 01:14:42,914
Like, this is gonna solidify you guys moving
forward, and that's awesome.
1849
01:14:42,914 --> 01:14:47,460
And while we're happy about that, then all of a
sudden, Oh, I see that.
1850
01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:49,239
And I'm just like, oh, no.
1851
01:14:49,460 --> 01:14:50,500
It was one of those.
1852
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:54,414
Like, there's actually a audio on Instagram.
1853
01:14:54,555 --> 01:14:56,074
That's it's like, oh, no.
1854
01:14:56,074 --> 01:14:56,895
Oh, no.
1855
01:14:57,835 --> 01:14:59,195
And you just like, I'm just
1856
01:14:59,435 --> 01:15:00,555
I I see that one.
1857
01:15:00,555 --> 01:15:03,340
I'm watching it, and I'm just like, Oh, no.
1858
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,399
Like, please don't go down this path.
1859
01:15:05,399 --> 01:15:05,760
But Yeah.
1860
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,460
Here's the one issue is Yeah.
1861
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,284
I don't know if she was ready for all the,
1862
01:15:13,145 --> 01:15:13,885
like Backlash?
1863
01:15:14,185 --> 01:15:14,685
Yeah.
1864
01:15:14,824 --> 01:15:20,104
From Pat saying that he was doing it and
getting the money and everything.
1865
01:15:20,104 --> 01:15:20,925
And Yeah.
1866
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:23,760
Who golf digest Brown it today.
1867
01:15:24,392 --> 01:15:25,100
Brown what?
1868
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:25,670
Her They hosted her rant.
1869
01:15:25,670 --> 01:15:26,170
Right.
1870
01:15:30,534 --> 01:15:30,694
Yeah.
1871
01:15:30,694 --> 01:15:32,215
And I'm just sitting down very good.
1872
01:15:32,215 --> 01:15:32,954
Oh, boy.
1873
01:15:33,175 --> 01:15:33,414
Yeah.
1874
01:15:33,414 --> 01:15:36,635
Like, that's that's not a good PR move, but,
listen.
1875
01:15:36,694 --> 01:15:37,015
Yeah.
1876
01:15:37,015 --> 01:15:37,095
I
1877
01:15:37,095 --> 01:15:38,284
mean, as Yeah.
1878
01:15:38,449 --> 01:15:40,720
Mikey sister-in-law, Yeah.
1879
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:49,505
I I just want, Mikey, I I I've I've said enough
on it, but, like, man, that That's that's a
1880
01:15:49,505 --> 01:15:49,984
tough,
1881
01:15:50,385 --> 01:15:52,385
that's what that gets back to what I tell you.
1882
01:15:52,385 --> 01:15:56,944
But I'm telling you about some of these, you
know, god, I'm I'm not gonna go there, but I'm
1883
01:15:56,944 --> 01:15:58,550
writing it down on career out here.
1884
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:59,510
So I'm gonna go there.
1885
01:15:59,510 --> 01:16:05,510
But these, some of these wives, man, they're,
it's, it's, it's just unbelievable where you
1886
01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:09,425
fucking just get the vibe that it's all about
them, and it's a big purse contact.
1887
01:16:09,484 --> 01:16:11,885
Actually, we've seen we make fun of them all
the time out here.
1888
01:16:11,885 --> 01:16:14,125
They're all wearing fucking lululemon black
stretch pants.
1889
01:16:14,125 --> 01:16:17,890
I don't know how any other normal woman buy any
because I think they buy them all up.
1890
01:16:17,890 --> 01:16:20,149
They all look like they're broke out of the
same mold.
1891
01:16:20,689 --> 01:16:24,555
Have you noticed the trend on the gorn fairy
tour lately that some of these guys that have
1892
01:16:24,555 --> 01:16:28,715
won the last 2 or 3 weeks, the wife can't find
the blast pus, not even fucking in the hole,
1893
01:16:28,715 --> 01:16:29,515
and they're on the green.
1894
01:16:29,515 --> 01:16:31,930
And now they got their dogs with Have you seen
this?
1895
01:16:31,930 --> 01:16:32,250
They got
1896
01:16:32,250 --> 01:16:32,650
their dogs
1897
01:16:32,650 --> 01:16:34,010
with them the last 2 or 3 weeks.
1898
01:16:34,010 --> 01:16:34,170
Yeah.
1899
01:16:34,170 --> 01:16:35,930
The fucking puppy dogs out there.
1900
01:16:35,930 --> 01:16:36,250
You know?
1901
01:16:36,250 --> 01:16:36,489
Hey.
1902
01:16:36,489 --> 01:16:37,210
I love dogs.
1903
01:16:37,210 --> 01:16:38,190
I love my turtles.
1904
01:16:38,744 --> 01:16:39,704
Every week there.
1905
01:16:39,704 --> 01:16:43,864
Oh, I got a gold doodle named Happy after happy
Gilmore, but I'm not bringing it on to the golf
1906
01:16:43,864 --> 01:16:44,344
course.
1907
01:16:44,344 --> 01:16:46,024
It's but and it's funny.
1908
01:16:46,024 --> 01:16:51,149
You don't see you know, you don't see you don't
see Jordan's wife out there wanting, you know,
1909
01:16:51,149 --> 01:16:55,149
some of them just wanna be seen in that kind of
stuff, you know, and be relevant and be
1910
01:16:55,149 --> 01:16:55,550
important.
1911
01:16:55,550 --> 01:16:59,204
And I just opened up and alarms with that, but
But did you somebody had to say it?
1912
01:16:59,204 --> 01:17:02,164
Did you see well, of course, you saw it.
1913
01:17:02,164 --> 01:17:07,000
But back in the day when they did the tour
wives edition, in, like, sports illustrated.
1914
01:17:07,619 --> 01:17:13,380
And they took, like, a shot of the golfer
husband with the wife, and then they did the
1915
01:17:13,380 --> 01:17:14,600
the wife in the bikini.
1916
01:17:15,295 --> 01:17:18,574
And they went through, like, all the tour wives
and did, like, this little series.
1917
01:17:18,574 --> 01:17:20,014
I think it was sports illustrated.
1918
01:17:20,014 --> 01:17:24,335
I I'm not a 100% sure, but, like, Governor's
wife at the time was in there.
1919
01:17:24,335 --> 01:17:24,835
Yeah.
1920
01:17:24,989 --> 01:17:26,670
Phil with Amy was in there.
1921
01:17:26,670 --> 01:17:31,949
You had I mean, there was there was plenty of
webs in I think Webb was in there.
1922
01:17:31,949 --> 01:17:33,010
I I'm not 100%
1923
01:17:33,070 --> 01:17:33,949
of it, but maybe Brown.
1924
01:17:33,949 --> 01:17:34,689
She's gorgeous.
1925
01:17:34,744 --> 01:17:35,385
By the way.
1926
01:17:35,385 --> 01:17:38,905
She is probably the, you know, there's, it,
it's so funny.
1927
01:17:38,905 --> 01:17:43,179
You see some of these wives out out here, you
know, and you can see Well, you know, we've
1928
01:17:43,179 --> 01:17:47,020
already mentioned some names and that kind of
stuff, but the fucking Botox and this and that
1929
01:17:47,020 --> 01:17:51,284
as their success goes on, they just, like,
transform the where I'm, like, Was is this a
1930
01:17:51,284 --> 01:17:56,005
dude I'm looking at, or is this this the same
guy's wife that I saw fucking 3 years ago, but
1931
01:17:56,005 --> 01:18:01,760
the all natural ones, like, you know, I've got
this, but like Dow Simpson is absolutely
1932
01:18:01,900 --> 01:18:05,820
stunning, gorgeous, you know, doesn't have to
wear any makeup or anything like that, which
1933
01:18:05,820 --> 01:18:09,645
unfortunately, this day and age, that's a whole
another topic, not about that's the way that
1934
01:18:09,645 --> 01:18:11,164
that women are going these days.
1935
01:18:11,164 --> 01:18:11,484
Right?
1936
01:18:11,484 --> 01:18:11,885
You think Well,
1937
01:18:11,885 --> 01:18:13,725
when we were talking about lifestyle early
1938
01:18:13,725 --> 01:18:14,465
on Grace.
1939
01:18:14,604 --> 01:18:16,524
Can anybody age Grace for you anymore?
1940
01:18:16,524 --> 01:18:20,289
There's nothing more attractive than a middle
aged woman who who walks around with a little
1941
01:18:20,289 --> 01:18:25,570
bit of style, a little bit of pizazz, and no
plastic lips or or disinjected or that
1942
01:18:25,570 --> 01:18:26,070
injected.
1943
01:18:26,210 --> 01:18:29,774
But I think that comes down to just sign of the
times these days.
1944
01:18:29,774 --> 01:18:31,954
We live in the social media world.
1945
01:18:32,255 --> 01:18:37,809
Man, I see 10 and 11 might might might Mikey
middle son just turned it was birthday week at
1946
01:18:37,809 --> 01:18:41,889
my it was birthday week, at my I lost you for a
second.
1947
01:18:41,889 --> 01:18:42,210
I'm back.
1948
01:18:42,210 --> 01:18:43,170
Sorry about that.
1949
01:18:43,170 --> 01:18:47,064
It was it was birthday week week at my house,
my nine year old, and I'm watching ten and
1950
01:18:47,064 --> 01:18:48,664
eleven year old girls walk down the street.
1951
01:18:48,664 --> 01:18:50,748
And I'm like, it's it's a she wearing Mikey.
1952
01:18:51,545 --> 01:18:52,100
You know?
1953
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:54,500
Is her are her buns hanging out right now?
1954
01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:57,079
And she's 10 or 11 and I'm like, oh my gosh.
1955
01:18:57,140 --> 01:18:57,460
Yeah.
1956
01:18:57,460 --> 01:18:58,439
Oh my gosh.
1957
01:18:58,500 --> 01:18:59,000
Yeah.
1958
01:18:59,101 --> 01:18:59,895
Buttsy that's it.
1959
01:18:59,895 --> 01:19:01,335
That's a that's a whole another time.
1960
01:19:01,335 --> 01:19:05,494
It's a weird world we're living in when it
comes to social media and just Mikey body image
1961
01:19:05,494 --> 01:19:06,534
and, like, how Yeah.
1962
01:19:06,614 --> 01:19:10,479
Women think they need to look at this point,
but you're spot on with the tour wives.
1963
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:11,460
It it's definitely
1964
01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:12,479
Not all of them.
1965
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:12,960
Not all
1966
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:13,087
of them.
1967
01:19:13,087 --> 01:19:13,279
Not all of them.
1968
01:19:13,279 --> 01:19:13,760
Not saying.
1969
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:14,399
Not all of them.
1970
01:19:14,399 --> 01:19:15,599
There's a select group.
1971
01:19:15,599 --> 01:19:18,385
And I know and I know the group that you're
talking about, but Yes.
1972
01:19:18,385 --> 01:19:22,944
It goes back to the lifestyle conversation to
where it's like, hey, if you're a player on the
1973
01:19:22,944 --> 01:19:27,420
PGA tour and your woman wants a great
lifestyle, like,
1974
01:19:27,500 --> 01:19:28,000
Yeah.
1975
01:19:28,140 --> 01:19:28,460
Yeah.
1976
01:19:28,460 --> 01:19:29,920
It's it's a tough one.
1977
01:19:30,140 --> 01:19:30,380
Yeah.
1978
01:19:30,380 --> 01:19:30,619
Yeah.
1979
01:19:30,619 --> 01:19:31,520
Well, they're celebrities.
1980
01:19:31,579 --> 01:19:32,560
They become celebrities.
1981
01:19:32,619 --> 01:19:32,779
Right?
1982
01:19:32,779 --> 01:19:37,114
So when in Rome, you gotta add, you know, when
in Rome, that's all I'm gonna Okay.
1983
01:19:37,114 --> 01:19:37,435
I gotta
1984
01:19:37,594 --> 01:19:40,255
And and some and some think that they're
celebrities.
1985
01:19:42,875 --> 01:19:44,414
And that's where we'll end it.
1986
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:45,840
And that's where I landed.
1987
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:46,079
Thanks.
1988
01:19:46,079 --> 01:19:46,760
Well, Bobby, great.
1989
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:47,460
Anybody.
1990
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:47,920
Thank you
1991
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,279
so much for coming on.
1992
01:19:49,279 --> 01:19:49,520
Okay.
1993
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:50,000
Thank you.
1994
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,699
I mean, you gave some great insights.
1995
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,180
I mean, we're looking at 5, 600 tomorrow.
1996
01:19:54,274 --> 01:19:54,774
Yes.
1997
01:19:54,835 --> 01:19:54,994
Yeah.
1998
01:19:54,994 --> 01:19:57,795
Let's let's I want you to go tonight and go,
okay.
1999
01:19:57,795 --> 01:20:01,635
There's two things I, I really need Troy Mayor
to make this cut in advance to the weekend.
2000
01:20:01,635 --> 01:20:02,689
And and see if
2001
01:20:02,770 --> 01:20:02,929
Oh, I'm
2002
01:20:02,929 --> 01:20:03,649
throwing some money
2003
01:20:03,649 --> 01:20:04,309
on them.
2004
01:20:04,569 --> 01:20:05,069
No.
2005
01:20:05,329 --> 01:20:06,550
No jinxie cat.
2006
01:20:07,889 --> 01:20:08,529
Alright, my man.
2007
01:20:08,529 --> 01:20:09,725
Thanks for your time.
2008
01:20:09,885 --> 01:20:10,505
Cheers, Bobby.
2009
01:20:10,524 --> 01:20:10,604
Hate
2010
01:20:10,604 --> 01:20:11,564
that by you too.
2011
01:20:11,564 --> 01:20:12,064
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2012
01:20:12,604 --> 01:20:15,345
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