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One of the great things about him and why he
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people would say he transcended sports in a lot
of ways with the emotion that he poured into
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the game.
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And we don't see that nowadays.
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I can think of just barely a handful of players
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Like Ludvig Åberg, for instance, is another one
that they have glorified as just being super
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even-keeled all the time.
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The perfect demeanor.
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And what's interesting is that Dr.
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Lee believes that that's the exact opposite,
that that is not the way that you would want to
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be on the golf course.
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That is not the mindset that you want to have.
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You should allow yourself to show emotion.
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You should because that is natural as a human
being.
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That's what connects us.
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And that's what connects audiences.
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Now, this might not resonate with some people
right after the Ryder Cup because you're going,
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hey, the last tournament that I saw was the
Ryder Cup, and that was phenomenal.
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And they were going nuts.
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They were yelling "F you" to the crowd.
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It was incredible.
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Yes.
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The Ryder Cup brings that out, but that
exploits exactly what I'm talking about.
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Or why isn't every golf tournament like that?
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Why isn't every golf tournament player
absolutely pumped up to be out there playing
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and to show emotion throughout the round?
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Good shots, bad shots.
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Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf, the
podcast.
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I'm your host, Matt Cook.
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And on today's episode, this is a special one
because this is the last one of 2025.
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Gonna be taking a couple months off and coming
back in January 2026.
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So that being said, this episode being the last
of this year, I wanted to talk about something
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that I had a long conversation with Dr.
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Lee Piccarello this week in regards to the
golfers' mindset.
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And just wanna talk to you guys in regards to,
you know, the difference between what we see
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now, what gets glorified now versus what we've
had in the past, and where there might be a
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disconnect between the audience or fan base to
the actual golfers themselves.
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You might disagree.
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Now let's get into the episode.
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This episode is all about the golfer's mindset.
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And as I got into this conversation, this was
actually the topic of the conversation I had
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with Dr.
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Lee Piccarello this week during our coaching
session where he coaches me on mental mindset,
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you know, performance-wise and just really
understanding how to perform under levels of
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pressure, how to callous the mind, so to speak.
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But in particular, this week was a lot about,
you know, how hard you work to tone down your
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emotions on the golf course.
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And he believes very much so in there's a
pyramid to his teachings.
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And next year, he's probably gonna be one of
the first guests that I have on the show in
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2024 because I want him to talk about some of
these things.
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But when you're in the right mental performance
state, you want to understand your audience.
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You want to understand your environment while
you're out there in addition to, obviously, the
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story that you're telling yourself.
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And one of the things that came up is just how
different it is right now and how the kind of
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no emotion is the standard within the golf
world.
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So there were many times this year, in fact,
that I heard broadcasters talk about Scottie
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Scheffler, that because he's so even-keeled,
you never see emotion, that that is how you're
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supposed to be on the golf course, that he is
the epitome when it comes to what you look for
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in a top-level mental mindset for a modern
golfer.
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And we kind of see it across the board now.
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so many guys that lack personality.
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I mean, LIV Golf took a lot of the guys that
had big personalities.
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Right?
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Like a Bryson DeChambeau, for instance, who
interacts with his audience and is more of an
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exhibitionist, so to speak, when it comes to
interacting with the crowd, showing them his
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game, and really feeding off of the crowd as
well.
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Back in Tiger's era, I recall even hearing back
then around people putting him down for showing
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too much emotion on the golf course.
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Too many fist pumps.
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Too much aggression out there in terms of and,
you know, I say aggression, but really, I mean,
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one of the things that Dr.
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Lee brought up, he's like, and, Matt, he was
almost doing it to the crowd when all of a
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sudden, he was so in tune.
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If he heard a click from a camera, he'd stop
his downswing.
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And everybody would go wild, and it would show
up on ESPN later that day.
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Look what Tiger Woods did.
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Again, he was able to stop his golf swing in
the middle.
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But as he's talking about it, I started to
realize that he was spot on with something in
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particular to where, you know, golf before
Tiger Woods was always pretty boring.
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If Tiger wasn't in the final group on Sunday or
making a charge or even playing in an event, it
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was like, I used to joke around all the time
that watching golf was like it was very easy to
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take a nap.
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It's the best sport in the world to take a nap
and wake up, and they're on the 18th hole in
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the final round and, you know, they're
finishing out the golf tournament.
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So what does that mean?
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Why is that?
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Because why was it when Tiger was in
contention, nobody was falling asleep?
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Everybody was locked in.
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Everybody was engaged.
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And the more we talked about it, the more it's
become this, hey, you need to be one specific
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way, and that doesn't work for everybody.
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And I feel like as we've glorified the people
that are just even-keeled all the time, that
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don't really show emotion and part of this
conversation was stemmed from the Ryder Cup.
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He's like, Matt, why is it acceptable during
the Ryder Cup that all these guys show all this
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emotion, but in a normal tournament, we don't
see that?
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We don't see that kind of emotion.
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And everybody talks about it, even him not
being a big golf guy, but being a big
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sportsperson and understanding what the
rhetoric is from broadcasters and so forth when
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he does turn on in a PGA Tour event,
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for instance.
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And even on LIV, like, the emotion, there's a
little bit more character.
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There's a little
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bit more exhibitionist in LIV, I feel like, for
the players because they're looser.
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They aren't as tight.
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They aren't as serious, so to speak, as a lot
of people like to say.
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Now, you could think entirely differently.
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No.
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There's so much money on the line that they're
so serious about it.
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I mean, there's differing opinions from both
sides when it comes to that and strong
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opinions.
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So I don't want to start going down that path
as to LIV vs.
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PGA Tour during this conversation.
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This is more about the fact that Tiger, one of
the great things about him and why he was such
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a fan favorite, because a lot of people would
say he transcended sports in a lot of ways,
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with the emotion that he poured into the game.
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And we don't see that nowadays.
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can think of just barely a handful of players
that really show emotion.
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Like, Ludvig Åberg, for instance, is another
one that they have glorified as just being
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super even-keeled all the time.
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The perfect demeanor.
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And what's interesting is that Dr.
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Lee believes that that's the exact opposite,
that that is not the way that you would want to
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be on the golf course.
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That is not the mindset that you want to have,
that you should allow yourself to show emotion.
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You should because that is natural as a human
being.
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That's what connects us, and that's what
connects the audience.
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So when we look at the fandom and people being
so interested during the Tiger era and golf
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growing so much, one of the big things was that
he connected with the audience.
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Nowadays, players are not at that level with
showing emotion because it has been shunned
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once again, I feel like.
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Because of the rhetoric, because of the things
that are said by the broadcast teams and in the
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broadcast booth, glorifying the even-keeled as
the perfect demeanor.
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And they couldn't be more wrong.
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And that's where I started to think as I'm
having this conversation with him.
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I'm like, damn.
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I'm like, you're right.
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Like, that's why whenever Tiger plays,
everybody is locked in.
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Now, Tiger was a generational talent, but
Scottie Scheffler is a generational talent.
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There's a big difference between how the
audience feels about Tiger Woods versus how
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they feel about Scottie Scheffler.
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There's a big difference there.
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And the big difference is the emotion.
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What Tiger did with the audience, with the fans
that were out on the golf course, night and
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day.
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Now you could say that Bryson DeChambeau is
that way.
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And look, look at his YouTube channel.
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Right?
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He's got a ton of audience members because that
is a factor to him.
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That matters to him.
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And in order to perform your absolute best, in
the words of Dr.
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Lee Picariello, you need to have a presence
with the audience, with your environment, and
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then with yourself.
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And so that really brings it to where it's
like, wow.
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Who is going to be the modern-day personality?
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Because that's what gets related to it a lot is
the personality side.
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Oh, this guy has a big personality out there.
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It's like, no, he showed emotions.
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I mean, shit, I even remember back in
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the day Craig Stadler because
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he got so fiery and so angry out there, showing
so much emotion, but on the negative side.
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But we—I—I asked Dr.
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Lee in regards to that too.
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I'm like, hey.
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What about the negative side?
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Like, is is that bad?
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And the answer is no because you're going to
take up more mental energy and bandwidth trying
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to mitigate that and not allow that to happen,
and then it remains.
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Right?
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You want to let it out, and then you want to
move on beyond it.
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And so you see guys like Jon Rahm play very
fiery and play really well when he is fiery.
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So there definitely is that ability.
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not saying that people have to be playing out
of their character, but
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you look at a lot of guys and you can tell that
they bring down the emotional level.
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And I even think to my own game over the past
several years that, like, man, when I
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was a kid, playing high school golf,
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I was emotional, good and bad, to where, like,
I would throw in a fist pump.
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I would get excited when I would make a putt or
hit a great shot.
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And I remember specifically that it was our
last match of my senior year.
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My mom was actually out there walking the golf
course watching me for nine holes.
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And I'm in a match, and it came down to my
match as to whether or not we would win and win
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our section.
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sure enough, it came down to the 18th hole,
which was a par 5 at Conklin Players Club.
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And that ninth hole, little dogleg left down
the hill, got there in two,
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but I had about a 50-foot putt from the front
left side.
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There's a big hump in the middle, and the pin
was back right.
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And I just knew it coming to it because I had
so much emotion going on at the time.
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I'm like, I'm making this putt.
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Everybody was around, so everybody's standing
on the green, our team, their team, the
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coaches, the few fans that were out there.
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Like my mom was still walking down the cart
path.
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And I literally get up there and I hit a putt.
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And immediately, for some reason, I knew it was
going in.
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I lift the putter.
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I start running.
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I do the fist pump as soon as it went in the
hole, and everybody went nuts from our team.
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The other team was devastated.
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We ended up winning our section that day.
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And it was just an incredible moment.
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I remember my mom screaming and yelling.
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So it was a really cool moment that I really
haven't talked about.
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But I started thinking back to that, and
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I was talking to him about it.
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I'm like, man, like, to think about that, like,
man, when I played with emotion, like, yeah, I
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was better.
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Like, I had more of those moments to where,
like, playing so even-keeled and so forth,
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there really isn't that euphoric moment to
where you just go and have these big, huge
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moments.
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Even if it's just going out and playing, I feel
like, man, he's spot on.
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Like, need to show more emotion.
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So that's some of the stuff that I'm gonna
start working on myself is just freeing myself
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up a
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little bit to not try to mitigate that
emotional side.
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Because, as he mentions, that's how humans
connect,
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is through emotion.
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So if you're gonna connect with other people
and this game is gonna continue to grow and
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professional golf is going to get more
engaging, we need more people out there that
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are going
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to show emotion.
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That it's not just the mundane, tap it in,
little wave to the crowd.
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Oh, hey.
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I'm here.
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Yep.
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Just made a birdie.
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Cool.
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It's like, no.
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Like, let's start to see that emotion come out.
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And if you get angry,
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you get angry along the way.
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But it's that moving on and moving past that in
a very short amount of time, that's the piece
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that matters.
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So my question
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is, are we ever going to see the excitement of
a Tiger Woods again?
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Or has it just become this boring mindset where
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they're just going to go out there and be
even-keeled the entire round?
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That is the new norm.
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Everybody thinks that that is the perfect way
of being on the golf course.
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I tell you what, I don't really want to live in
that world because I really want to live in the
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world where we are back to having fun,
entertaining moments.
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You know, even Phil.
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Phil and Tiger, we were spoiled with.
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Tiger showed his emotion on the golf course
with his play.
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Phil was a showman.
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Phil, if he had a crowd around him, man, he was
gonna pull off that shot.
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He was gonna risk everything.
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He would give the little fist pump.
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I mean, and then you look at, and he also
brought up Rory McIlroy.
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You see the emotion after they win.
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You know it's in there.
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Why are we not seeing that during the round?
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Golf would be
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a hell of a lot more interesting if we got to
see that emotion throughout their play, not
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just at the end after a victory.
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I want to see that.
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And it kind of sparked something in me where
I'm like, man, yeah.
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You know what?
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I haven't played with emotion in
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a long time.
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Like, I'll get upset here and there, but, like,
the other side to it is important too.
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Getting excited when making a birdie, getting
excited when you make a big putt, getting
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excited when you hit a good drive instead of
just nonchalantly being
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like, oh, yeah.
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I hit a good one.
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Like, let's start to see that emotion out there
and start to get back into the glory days of
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golf where we did have a Tiger Woods, we did
have a Phil Mickelson, we
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had others.
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That's what I'm interested in.
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That's what I hope to see.
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moving forward as I look to do that myself.
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Now with this break coming up, training is not
stopping.
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5 a.m.
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comeback is continuing.
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And, really, it has become a lot bigger than
the game of golf.
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I will just say that right off the bat to
where, like, golf is kind of secondary right
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now within all this training, getting healthy,
and everything.
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But I know that it will come back because golf
has always, for me, gone in waves.
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Like, I could go without golf for a while, and
then all of a sudden, I'm obsessed with it.
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So I know that it's in a wave right now to
where, you know, I don't want to define myself
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just within the game of golf, and it's bigger
than all of that.
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But at the same time, it's like, okay.
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You know, some of these things, like a golfer's
mindset and showing a little bit more emotion,
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getting a little bit more into what I'm doing,
I think that's gonna go a long way.
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And I could only hope that you guys agree.
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And let's hope that we get a phenom that
actually has a lot of character, goes out
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there, plays with emotion, and we see it.
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And we get back to golf being entertaining
versus just relying on great play in order to
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be the entertaining factor.
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Now this might not resonate with some people
right after the Ryder Cup because you're going,
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hey.
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The last tournament that I saw was the Ryder
Cup, and that was phenomenal.
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And they were going nuts.
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They were yelling f-u to the crowd.
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It was incredible.
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Yes.
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The Ryder Cup brings that out, but that
exploits exactly what I'm talking about.
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Or why isn't every golf tournament like that?
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Why isn't every golf tournament player
absolutely pumped up to be out there playing
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and to show emotion throughout the round?
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Good shots, bad shots.
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Now I get it.
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A lot of the pundits are gonna say that golf
takes place over six hours.
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You can't have these massive ups and
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lows.
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I disagree.
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And that's where I'll leave that for tonight.
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So without further ado, last episode of 2026, I
hope, or I'm sorry, 2025.
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I will
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see everybody in January 2026.
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If not sooner, we shall see.
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And until next time, I will see you all on the
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down.
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Peace out, everybody.
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One of the great things about him and why he
was such a fan favorite is because a lot of
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people would say he transcended sports in a lot
of ways with the emotion that he poured into
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the game.
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And we don't see that nowadays.
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I can think of just barely a handful of players
that really show emotion.
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Like Ludvig Åberg, for instance, is another one
that they have glorified as just being super
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even-keeled all the time.
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The perfect demeanor.
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And what's interesting is that Dr.
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Lee believes that that's the exact opposite,
that that is not the way that you would want to
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be on the golf course.
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That is not the mindset that you want to have.
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You should allow yourself to show emotion.
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You should because that is natural as a human
being.
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That's what connects us.
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And that's what connects audiences.
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Now, this might not resonate with some people
right after the Ryder Cup because you're going,
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hey, the last tournament that I saw was the
Ryder Cup, and that was phenomenal.
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And they were going nuts.
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They were yelling "F you" to the crowd.
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It was incredible.
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Yes.
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The Ryder Cup brings that out, but that
exploits exactly what I'm talking about.
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Or why isn't every golf tournament like that?
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Why isn't every golf tournament player
absolutely pumped up to be out there playing
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and to show emotion throughout the round?
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Good shots, bad shots.
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Welcome back, everybody, to Pull Hook Golf, the
podcast.
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I'm your host, Matt Cook.
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And on today's episode, this is a special one
because this is the last one of 2025.
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Gonna be taking a couple months off and coming
back in January 2026.
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So that being said, this episode being the last
of this year, I wanted to talk about something
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that I had a long conversation with Dr.
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Lee Piccarello this week in regards to the
golfers' mindset.
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And just wanna talk to you guys in regards to,
you know, the difference between what we see
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now, what gets glorified now versus what we've
had in the past, and where there might be a
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disconnect between the audience or fan base to
the actual golfers themselves.
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You might disagree.
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Now let's get into the episode.
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This episode is all about the golfer's mindset.
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And as I got into this conversation, this was
actually the topic of the conversation I had
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with Dr.
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Lee Piccarello this week during our coaching
session where he coaches me on mental mindset,
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you know, performance-wise and just really
understanding how to perform under levels of
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pressure, how to callous the mind, so to speak.
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But in particular, this week was a lot about,
you know, how hard you work to tone down your
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emotions on the golf course.
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And he believes very much so in there's a
pyramid to his teachings.
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And next year, he's probably gonna be one of
the first guests that I have on the show in
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2024 because I want him to talk about some of
these things.
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But when you're in the right mental performance
state, you want to understand your audience.
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You want to understand your environment while
you're out there in addition to, obviously, the
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story that you're telling yourself.
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And one of the things that came up is just how
different it is right now and how the kind of
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no emotion is the standard within the golf
world.
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So there were many times this year, in fact,
that I heard broadcasters talk about Scottie
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Scheffler, that because he's so even-keeled,
you never see emotion, that that is how you're
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supposed to be on the golf course, that he is
the epitome when it comes to what you look for
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in a top-level mental mindset for a modern
golfer.
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And we kind of see it across the board now.
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so many guys that lack personality.
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I mean, LIV Golf took a lot of the guys that
had big personalities.
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Right?
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Like a Bryson DeChambeau, for instance, who
interacts with his audience and is more of an
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exhibitionist, so to speak, when it comes to
interacting with the crowd, showing them his
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game, and really feeding off of the crowd as
well.
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Back in Tiger's era, I recall even hearing back
then around people putting him down for showing
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too much emotion on the golf course.
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Too many fist pumps.
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Too much aggression out there in terms of and,
you know, I say aggression, but really, I mean,
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one of the things that Dr.
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Lee brought up, he's like, and, Matt, he was
almost doing it to the crowd when all of a
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sudden, he was so in tune.
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If he heard a click from a camera, he'd stop
his downswing.
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And everybody would go wild, and it would show
up on ESPN later that day.
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Look what Tiger Woods did.
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Again, he was able to stop his golf swing in
the middle.
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But as he's talking about it, I started to
realize that he was spot on with something in
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particular to where, you know, golf before
Tiger Woods was always pretty boring.
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If Tiger wasn't in the final group on Sunday or
making a charge or even playing in an event, it
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was like, I used to joke around all the time
that watching golf was like it was very easy to
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take a nap.
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It's the best sport in the world to take a nap
and wake up, and they're on the 18th hole in
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the final round and, you know, they're
finishing out the golf tournament.
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So what does that mean?
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Why is that?
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Because why was it when Tiger was in
contention, nobody was falling asleep?
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Everybody was locked in.
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Everybody was engaged.
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And the more we talked about it, the more it's
become this, hey, you need to be one specific
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way, and that doesn't work for everybody.
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And I feel like as we've glorified the people
that are just even-keeled all the time, that
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don't really show emotion and part of this
conversation was stemmed from the Ryder Cup.
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He's like, Matt, why is it acceptable during
the Ryder Cup that all these guys show all this
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emotion, but in a normal tournament, we don't
see that?
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We don't see that kind of emotion.
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And everybody talks about it, even him not
being a big golf guy, but being a big
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sportsperson and understanding what the
rhetoric is from broadcasters and so forth when
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he does turn on in a PGA Tour event,
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for instance.
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And even on LIV, like, the emotion, there's a
little bit more character.
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There's a little
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bit more exhibitionist in LIV, I feel like, for
the players because they're looser.
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They aren't as tight.
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They aren't as serious, so to speak, as a lot
of people like to say.
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Now, you could think entirely differently.
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No.
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There's so much money on the line that they're
so serious about it.
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I mean, there's differing opinions from both
sides when it comes to that and strong
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opinions.
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So I don't want to start going down that path
as to LIV vs.
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PGA Tour during this conversation.
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This is more about the fact that Tiger, one of
the great things about him and why he was such
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a fan favorite, because a lot of people would
say he transcended sports in a lot of ways,
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with the emotion that he poured into the game.
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And we don't see that nowadays.
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I mean, I
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can think of just barely a handful of players
that really show emotion.
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Like, Ludvig Åberg, for instance, is another
one that they have glorified as just being
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super even-keeled all the time.
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The perfect demeanor.
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And what's interesting is that Dr.
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Lee believes that that's the exact opposite,
that that is not the way that you would want to
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be on the golf course.
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That is not the mindset that you want to have,
that you should allow yourself to show emotion.
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You should because that is natural as a human
being.
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That's what connects us, and that's what
connects the audience.
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So when we look at the fandom and people being
so interested during the Tiger era and golf
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growing so much, one of the big things was that
he connected with the audience.
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Nowadays, players are not at that level with
showing emotion because it has been shunned
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once again, I feel like.
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Because of the rhetoric, because of the things
that are said by the broadcast teams and in the
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broadcast booth, glorifying the even-keeled as
the perfect demeanor.
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And they couldn't be more wrong.
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And that's where I started to think as I'm
having this conversation with him.
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I'm like, damn.
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I'm like, you're right.
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Like, that's why whenever Tiger plays,
everybody is locked in.
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Now, Tiger was a generational talent, but
Scottie Scheffler is a generational talent.
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There's a big difference between how the
audience feels about Tiger Woods versus how
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they feel about Scottie Scheffler.
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There's a big difference there.
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And the big difference is the emotion.
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What Tiger did with the audience, with the fans
that were out on the golf course, night and
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day.
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Now you could say that Bryson DeChambeau is
that way.
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And look, look at his YouTube channel.
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Right?
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He's got a ton of audience members because that
is a factor to him.
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That matters to him.
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And in order to perform your absolute best, in
the words of Dr.
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Lee Picariello, you need to have a presence
with the audience, with your environment, and
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then with yourself.
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And so that really brings it to where it's
like, wow.
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Who is going to be the modern-day personality?
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Because that's what gets related to it a lot is
the personality side.
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Oh, this guy has a big personality out there.
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It's like, no, he showed emotions.
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I mean, shit, I even remember back in
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the day Craig Stadler because
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he got so fiery and so angry out there, showing
so much emotion, but on the negative side.
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But we—I—I asked Dr.
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Lee in regards to that too.
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I'm like, hey.
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What about the negative side?
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Like, is is that bad?
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And the answer is no because you're going to
take up more mental energy and bandwidth trying
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to mitigate that and not allow that to happen,
and then it remains.
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Right?
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You want to let it out, and then you want to
move on beyond it.
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And so you see guys like Jon Rahm play very
fiery and play really well when he is fiery.
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So there definitely is that ability.
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not saying that people have to be playing out
of their character, but
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you look at a lot of guys and you can tell that
they bring down the emotional level.
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And I even think to my own game over the past
several years that, like, man, when I
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was a kid, playing high school golf,
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I was emotional, good and bad, to where, like,
I would throw in a fist pump.
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I would get excited when I would make a putt or
hit a great shot.
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And I remember specifically that it was our
last match of my senior year.
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My mom was actually out there walking the golf
course watching me for nine holes.
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And I'm in a match, and it came down to my
match as to whether or not we would win and win
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our section.
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sure enough, it came down to the 18th hole,
which was a par 5 at Conklin Players Club.
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And that ninth hole, little dogleg left down
the hill, got there in two,
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but I had about a 50-foot putt from the front
left side.
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There's a big hump in the middle, and the pin
was back right.
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And I just knew it coming to it because I had
so much emotion going on at the time.
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I'm like, I'm making this putt.
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Everybody was around, so everybody's standing
on the green, our team, their team, the
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coaches, the few fans that were out there.
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Like my mom was still walking down the cart
path.
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And I literally get up there and I hit a putt.
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And immediately, for some reason, I knew it was
going in.
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I lift the putter.
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I start running.
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I do the fist pump as soon as it went in the
hole, and everybody went nuts from our team.
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The other team was devastated.
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We ended up winning our section that day.
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And it was just an incredible moment.
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I remember my mom screaming and yelling.
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So it was a really cool moment that I really
haven't talked about.
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But I started thinking back to that, and
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I was talking to him about it.
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I'm like, man, like, to think about that, like,
man, when I played with emotion, like, yeah, I
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was better.
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Like, I had more of those moments to where,
like, playing so even-keeled and so forth,
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there really isn't that euphoric moment to
where you just go and have these big, huge
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moments.
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Even if it's just going out and playing, I feel
like, man, he's spot on.
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Like, need to show more emotion.
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So that's some of the stuff that I'm gonna
start working on myself is just freeing myself
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up a
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little bit to not try to mitigate that
emotional side.
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Because, as he mentions, that's how humans
connect,
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is through emotion.
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So if you're gonna connect with other people
and this game is gonna continue to grow and
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professional golf is going to get more
engaging, we need more people out there that
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are going
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to show emotion.
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That it's not just the mundane, tap it in,
little wave to the crowd.
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Oh, hey.
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I'm here.
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Yep.
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Just made a birdie.
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Cool.
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It's like, no.
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Like, let's start to see that emotion come out.
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And if you get angry,
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you get angry along the way.
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But it's that moving on and moving past that in
a very short amount of time, that's the piece
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that matters.
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So my question
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is, are we ever going to see the excitement of
a Tiger Woods again?
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Or has it just become this boring mindset where
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they're just going to go out there and be
even-keeled the entire round?
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That is the new norm.
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Everybody thinks that that is the perfect way
of being on the golf course.
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I tell you what, I don't really want to live in
that world because I really want to live in the
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world where we are back to having fun,
entertaining moments.
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You know, even Phil.
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Phil and Tiger, we were spoiled with.
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Tiger showed his emotion on the golf course
with his play.
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Phil was a showman.
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Phil, if he had a crowd around him, man, he was
gonna pull off that shot.
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He was gonna risk everything.
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He would give the little fist pump.
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I mean, and then you look at, and he also
brought up Rory McIlroy.
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You see the emotion after they win.
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You know it's in there.
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Why are we not seeing that during the round?
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Golf would be
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a hell of a lot more interesting if we got to
see that emotion throughout their play, not
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just at the end after a victory.
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I want to see that.
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And it kind of sparked something in me where
I'm like, man, yeah.
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You know what?
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I haven't played with emotion in
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a long time.
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Like, I'll get upset here and there, but, like,
the other side to it is important too.
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Getting excited when making a birdie, getting
excited when you make a big putt, getting
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excited when you hit a good drive instead of
just nonchalantly being
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like, oh, yeah.
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I hit a good one.
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Like, let's start to see that emotion out there
and start to get back into the glory days of
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golf where we did have a Tiger Woods, we did
have a Phil Mickelson, we
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had others.
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That's what I'm interested in.
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That's what I hope to see.
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moving forward as I look to do that myself.
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Now with this break coming up, training is not
stopping.
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5 a.m.
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comeback is continuing.
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And, really, it has become a lot bigger than
the game of golf.
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I will just say that right off the bat to
where, like, golf is kind of secondary right
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now within all this training, getting healthy,
and everything.
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But I know that it will come back because golf
has always, for me, gone in waves.
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Like, I could go without golf for a while, and
then all of a sudden, I'm obsessed with it.
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So I know that it's in a wave right now to
where, you know, I don't want to define myself
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just within the game of golf, and it's bigger
than all of that.
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But at the same time, it's like, okay.
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You know, some of these things, like a golfer's
mindset and showing a little bit more emotion,
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getting a little bit more into what I'm doing,
I think that's gonna go a long way.
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And I could only hope that you guys agree.
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And let's hope that we get a phenom that
actually has a lot of character, goes out
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there, plays with emotion, and we see it.
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And we get back to golf being entertaining
versus just relying on great play in order to
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be the entertaining factor.
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Now this might not resonate with some people
right after the Ryder Cup because you're going,
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hey.
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The last tournament that I saw was the Ryder
Cup, and that was phenomenal.
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And they were going nuts.
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They were yelling f-u to the crowd.
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It was incredible.
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Yes.
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The Ryder Cup brings that out, but that
exploits exactly what I'm talking about.
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Or why isn't every golf tournament like that?
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Why isn't every golf tournament player
absolutely pumped up to be out there playing
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and to show emotion throughout the round?
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Good shots, bad shots.
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Now I get it.
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A lot of the pundits are gonna say that golf
takes place over six hours.
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You can't have these massive ups and
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lows.
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I disagree.
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And that's where I'll leave that for tonight.
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So without further ado, last episode of 2026, I
hope, or I'm sorry, 2025.
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I will
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see everybody in January 2026.
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If not sooner, we shall see.
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Take advantage of those.
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And until next time, I will see you all on the
flip side.
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down.
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Peace out, everybody.
