My Disturbing Michael Jackson Experience - James Hudnall

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Support the show. Okay, got a fascinating guest today and
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I want to thank him to James Huddnall Uh came
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through for me at the last second. This is the
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day before fourth of July. I've been wanting to book
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this for a while. In fact, I emailed them months
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ago on Facebook because I read the story. Now you know,
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you know what it was. It was a Mike parsially
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told me this story. Mike Parsilli, the guy who does
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a lot of stuff on the Wade Robes and Case,
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and he told me about to just look up this guy.
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My disturbing Michael Jackson Experience by James Huddnall. You can
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find that over on a bright part dot com. But
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James got a lot of stuff going on here. He's
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going to be at the Comic Con in San Diego
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in a couple of weeks. He writes for Lucky Comics Beatlegirl.
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This is this thing, this comic called Beatlegirl, and he's
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read a couple of books. You can find him on
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Amazon dot com. Two to the Chest and Secrets of Writing.
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So James, you're there, Yes, I am. Hey, thank you.
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So it's going good, you know, and it's not like
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we haven't been talking with twenty minutes off the air,
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but you know it's great. Hey, So tell us about yourself.
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Who is James Hudnall.
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Well, I'm a professional writer. I've been doing it since
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eighty six. Before then, I was a computer programmer and
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I was also an Air Force veteran, but I created
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a comic, Cold Espers, and then went on to write
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for Marvel and DC, and I've also worked for Image
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in Malibu. I was a creator of the Malibo, one
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of the founders of the Malibu Ultraverse, and so the
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last Then when the comic industry kind of tanked in
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the nineties mid nineties, I went back into computers and
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I went into web developments. I've been mainly doing internet,
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being an Internet engineer as they call it, but I
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still do comics and I've been doing them on the side,
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and I'm also self publishing stuff through digital means as
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well as I've got my own publishing company. So I've
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been pretty busy.
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I guess, okay, very good, And I guess it was
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through this comic book. I guess you've been a comic
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book guy your whole life, and that's how you had
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this disturb quote unquote disturbing encounter with Michael Jackson. Why
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don't you describe it?
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Yeah, yeah, sure. Well, I used to live in la
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and because I was pursuing the movie business and everything,
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and I used to shop at Golden Apple Comics on Melros,
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which is kind of like a big store down there,
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and it happened to be a store that a lot
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of celebrities shopped at. Also, I would go in there
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a lot and see I would always see celebrities in there.
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When I went in there, I've seen Samwa Jackson, a
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bunch of other people. So I was friends with the
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owner and also the employees. And one day I came
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in to get my comics and the owners said, hey,
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Michael jacks since here, do you want to meet him?
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And I said, sure, you know, and I liked Michael
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Jackson's work. Now, this is before it all came out
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that he was assaulted this teenage boy. That it came
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out in the news round that time in the early nineties.
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And I had my suspicions about Michael Jackson before then
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because I just thought it was weird that a celebrity
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would spend so much time with kids. It just seemed,
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you know, it just it's one thing to be to,
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you know, see kids and everything. That's fine, but you know,
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it just seems to be a little bit too much.
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I mean, there's there's degrees, you know. So I always
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have my suspicions about him, But you know, I liked
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his music and everything, and I thought it'd be cool
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to meet him. So so they said sure, and I said, well,
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he's busy right now, but you know, when he gets
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So he came. He apparently he was in the back
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of the store, which is where the employees go, and
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then he came out and he had this boy with
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him who was like turned out later it was this Jeordie.
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His name was Jeordie, I think, yeah, okay, I think
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his name is Peterson. Anyway, so he had this boy
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with him. Now, okay, so he had this guy with him,
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right except he had his arm around him the whole time,
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like it was his girlfriend, and they were whisperinging each
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other's zero And it's just like the kind of behavior
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don't see people, do, you know, unless they're either gay
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or they're you know, on a date or something. It's
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just not like two guys, especially like a forty year
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old he was this time, he was like in his
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forties and this was a thirteen year old. So you know,
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it's just a little strange. I don't know, but you know. Anyway,
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So then they disappeared again, and they disappeared for like
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half an hour, and then I said, well, so I've
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been waiting to meet Michael Jackson. Right, I've been hanging
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out there and I've been talking. I was talking to
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other boys there, so I said, where did he go?
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And they, oh, he's in the bathroom. Now, there's only
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one bathroom in that store, and it's for the employees,
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and it's in the back where all the boxes are
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and everything. And uh, it's only a bathroom big enough
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for one person. I've been in it before. It's a
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very small bathroom. It's literally one. It's just barely big
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enough for one person to go in there and come out.
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So why would two people go into a bathroom like that?
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I mean, there's only two reasons I can think of,
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and one of them is to do drugs, and the
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other one, you know, I don't want to think about it.
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So it's for, you know, a forty year old man
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and a thirteen year old boy. So I don't know.
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I mean, what is he gonna do? Hold his hand
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or I don't know? Anyway, questions, let me ask a
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couple for half an hour.
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Wait, James, can you here, I'm here. Let me ask
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a couple of questions. Now, when you saw these two
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walking around, was was JORDI like This was Jordi Chandler, because.
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Said Peter Berdy Chandler.
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That's the name, Yeah, Jordian Chandler. Now the size of
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them was Jordi Chandler obviously clearly like a little boy,
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along with Michael Jackson a grown man. Or did they
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almost like appear to.
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H No, Michael Jackson wasn't very tall either, so he
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you know, he's tall and very thin, so he could
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have he almost could pass for you know, though he
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was like you could tell he wasn't, especially at that
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point he had been he had all that facial surgery done,
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so he was looking like the Mummy or whatever. But anyway, no,
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he was like a thirteen year old, but he looked
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like he could have been fifteen or sixteen. Okay.
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And were they holding hands as they walked around?
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Yeah, And he had his arm around him like you
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have your armor on your girlfriend if you were on
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a date and you were going around. I mean, look,
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if you're going to a comic store and you're looking
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at comics, why would you have your arm around somebody
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the whole time? And just unless you were like on
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a date or something. It's just not like it's certainly
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not it didn't seem very to me, just and seem
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like like two friends hanging out. I mean, I've never
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had my arm around my friend.
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And anyone else that anyone else in the store like
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look at this and say, hey, what's going on here?
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Like your friends who worked out.
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Nobody if it's La, you know, there's nothing. The people
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just ignore, you know, try to ignore it or act
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like they just act like it was. I mean, nobody
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was like going, what are you doing? Or you know,
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it's nothing like that. In LA they see all kinds
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of stuff, So it's people are jaded, you know. And
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I was like, it's not like I didn't. I felt
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like I can't presume that they're it's not my business.
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But you know, uh, it's not like it was. I'm
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not consensual in other words. I mean I didn't feel
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like the kid was trying to get away with from
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him or anything. So that's why I don't think it
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was entirely. I think it was. You know when when
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Michael Jackson apparently he gets bored with these kids and
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he just finds another one and he just pays off
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the parents, and this time the parent, the dad sued
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him and tried to get more money, and he ended
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up getting millions apparently in a settlement. But I think
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it was The sick thing is that a lot of
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these parents, having researched his story quite a bit because
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they used to write for Brevebard and did some research
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on it, Apparently a lot of kids, I mean a
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lot of these parents would willfully give their kids to
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Michael Jackson to be there his plaything, and then they
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because they would get money out of it, they would
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get cars, brand new cars and money, and they would
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just pimp out their kids, you know, the celebrity It's
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really kind of sick. But this is not unusual in
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the celebrity world. There's people that are just willing to
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They don't have any scruples or morals or anything. They
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just would rather you know, they just try to explain
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their kids. Especially in Hollywood, it's pretty common because people
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are always trying to get their kids into movies and
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TV shows because they can live off their at wealth.
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You know.
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Yeah, if you ever read the story about Jordi Chandler
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at his mother's house there it was like a little
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two bedroom house, like thirteen hundred square feet, and Michael
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Jackson and Jordi Channa's little thirteen year old boy stayed
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in my in Jordi Channler's bedroom for like over thirty
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days straight, never left the room, and she would leave
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their food on a plate on a trae in front
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of the door. They'd open up the door bring the
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food in, so they were in there, you know, twenty
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four hours a day together for like a month. Very
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bizarre story with the whole Jeordie Chandler.
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I remember what it was like to be a teenager, right,
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and when you don't, you start getting sexually adventurous at
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that age. And like, if somebody wants to spend that
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much time, I mean, I'm not gay, so if somebody
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wanted to spend time with me that much, I would
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say no, you know, if it was a guy. If
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it was a girl, maybe, But so I you know,
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they probably had a consensual gay relationship. Presumably, I don't know.
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But the thing is is that the kid, if the
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kid didn't want it, he would it wouldn't have happened.
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So but the thing is it doesn't matter because he's
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a grown man in this against the law, and they
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you know, and really if he had any brain, If
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Michael Jackson had any brains at all, he wouldn't have
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lived himself so open to blackmail. I mean, And apparently
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he was very indiscreet about it, you know, so because
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this is not This was only the first one, but
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there were others after that, and there were apparently other ones.
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We didn't hear about it later, you know. I think
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I think he'd been doing this for a while.
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I think part of his fetish was to make it known,
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you know, he wanted the parents to know good because
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there was a whole Yeah, what are you going.
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It's one of those weird things that people that commit crimes,
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they have a guilt about it, so they feel it
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kind of drives into want to want people to catch them.
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You know. It's like serial killers that want to be
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caught or something. It's kind of a thing about, you
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know that that people have.
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And I'm curious about the comic book shop.
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Now.
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You said they were in the back room first, and
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they went into the bathroom. All the times you were
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visiting this shop, did you know other clients customers to
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go into the back room and to use that bathroom.
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I didn't really think about it, but I'm sure they
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did because the owner was pretty nice and he would
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let you know. I mean, because I was a comic
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book professional then I you know, they were they always welcome.
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They let me go in the back and stuff. But
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it wasn't open to customers. It was just for employees.
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And then they would have cele You would do a
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lot of signings the owner. You would have signings every
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week of some celebrity or comic book pro or you know,
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people from all kinds of stuff, so including porn stars.
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He was a big unto porn stars, so he would
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have porn stars do sunning suit with that sort. But
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he's gone now. But anyway, he uh you know, but
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he was an okay guy. I mean I knew him
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for a few years now.
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No one more question what reason? We know, Like you
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s already said that there'd be no reason for two
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men or a man and a little boy or two
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people to go into the bathroom. But what reason would
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they be to go into the back room? Was there
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like more comics books that there you can go and
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browse through what was going on?
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They I don't know, but I didn't go back at
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the time. I just waited out in the front. But yeah,
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the reasons could be they were back there talking to somebody,
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or they could have been you know, looking through boxes
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that were of comics that were in the back, or
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you know, there could have been other reasons. I can
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only assume. I don't have any direct info in that.
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But had you ever in that back room?
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Have I ever been in the back storeroom? It's like
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a little storeroom. Yeah, I've been back there more than
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I'd say, maybe ten or fifteen times, and.
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It was a bunch of boxes and stuff like that
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that you could go through.
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Yeah, it's just like a little mini warehouse. That is
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just like the stuff they didn't have on display. They
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would have boxes of in the back, like they'd have
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boxes of comics that they didn't have up front, you know,
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just it's just like extra stuff if they needed to
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put it up front to fill the shelves. So it's
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just inventory. Basically, there was a room to you know,
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walk around back there and stuff.
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And I guess if you're a celebrity and that you
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could go back there and sit on a box, you know,
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just a little privacy for a few minutes, you know, I.
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Wouldn't really, Well, that's the only reason to go back
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there because otherwise it was pretty boring and it wasn't
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that comfortable. It wasn't like there was like a lounge
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or anything. It's a small store. It wasn't it's a
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big store for Mailrose, but it's not a huge It
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wasn't a huge place, so we're not talking like a
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lot of square feetback there. It's just you know, and
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most of its shelving and stuff. And there was a
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little office and then like the owners had a little
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office back there, which was pretty small, and then there
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was maybe a tables for them to work on, like
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people box and stuff that were putting stuff in milar
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like comics they would put in these mailer sleeves stuff
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like that. There's about three or four people usually working
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the store in the daytime, and most of them be upfront,
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but like maybe they'd be one or two back in
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the back. And then the owner had a as a wife,
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and she was often in the store. I don't think
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she was that day, I don't remember, but he had
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he had two sons who were adults. I don't think
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they were there either at the time. Yeah, it's kind
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of it's been a while, so I don't remember.
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That for the employees, for the employees and the owner,
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was it common for Michael Jackson to come in and
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bring this little boy with him?
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They said he would come in about once a month
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and maybe twice a month sometimes, and he would buy
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a ton of comics and he would usually come in
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with a lot of kids. And I asked, my friend, Uh,
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I said, what kind of comics does Michael buy? Because
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I was a comic writer and I was curious if
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you read any why books? And he goes and so
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I said, what kind of comics does you buy? And
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he says, just ones with kids in them? Exactly.
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I'm like, boy, Now, when they were saying that to you,
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was it like they would just saying, to hey, man,
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this guy's you know, No.
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He was serious. He was serious. But here's what he
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would do, Michael. This is the thing why I think
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it's like he's like a guy with a van, you know,
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like a scary looking van that as kids to get
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in his van. Is that he's just a more upscale
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version of that. Basically, he would go in, he would
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get kids, He would bring a bunch of kids over
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to the store, and then he would buy them whatever
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they wanted. So we'd spend a couple of grand on
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stuff for the kids, and it was just like buying.
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He's like giving treats out to his flock, you know.
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And he had a place in that he had Neverland,
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which was up in It's kind of remote from LA
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but it's like in the next county, I think. But
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I mean he also had a condo in LA. Did
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he stayed at at times? And I think he, you know,
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I don't know if so. I don't know if he
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brought local kids to the store or whatever. And I
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don't know where he got the kids from. But you know,
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he just usually had a flock of kids, but this
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day he didn't. He had just you know, Geordie with him.
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But the uh but they said, usually comes in with
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a bunch of kids. But they said he's been seeing
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this Jeordi kid for a while, he told me. And
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then the other thing that hammered it home for me
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was so then finally I got to meet Michael Jackson.
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So went out to where his car was and he
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was driven by a driver.
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Wait let me stop before a second. When they come
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out of the bathroom, these two where they are they
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looking suspicious? You know how when you come out of
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the bathroom, you're gonna we probably brought a girlf onto
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the bathroom.
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F you know what I mean.
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I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't see that because it
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was it's behind everything. So if you're out in the front,
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you wouldn't see where the bathroom is. It's like behind
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a bunch.
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Of not the music you were expecting. Know what you're
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getting into with your music and your internet.
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Straight up Internet is fifty dollars all in, no.
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Hidden fees, and like this music, you can even pause
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it straight up Internet. Know what you're getting into.
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Let's say you just bought a house. Bad news is
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you're one step closer to becoming your parents. You'll probably
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mow the lawn. Ask if anybody noticed you mowed the lawn.
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Tell people to stay off the lawn, Compare it to
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your neighbor's lawn, and complain about having to mow the
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lawn again. Good news is it's easy to bundle home
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and auto through Progressive and Safe on your car insurance, which,
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of course we'll go right into the lawn. Progressive Casualty
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Insurance Company affiliates and other insurers. Discount not available in
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all stager situations.
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Shelves and boxes and stuff. So it's like in the
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back of the store, gotcha. Yeah, I didn't see them
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come out. I mean, like I say, it's a really
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small bathroom. It's like you've been in ones like it
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that are just like really tiny, you know, just think
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in a toilet and that's it. And it's just barely
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big enough to go in and out, you know, so
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two people could fit in there, but you know, it
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just it would be awkward, and I don't know, so yeah,
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so uh so I went out. So finally they said, okay,
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he's leaving, you can meet him now. So I went out.
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They went outside, and he had a car waiting for him,
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and it was like a suv, a black suv with
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dark windows, and it wasn't a limo. And the driver
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was a short, nambishy looking guy with wireframes, white guy,
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and he also had like a bodyguard with him, and
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so he stood there and the owner just brought me
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over and said hi, and I just wanted to introduce
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you to James Huddle. And he apparently didn't know who
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I was, and he didn't care, and he was just
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so I said, hello, nice to me. You I liked
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your last album, which wasn't true, but which was dangerous
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I think was the one that came out but anyway,
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or the one after that anyway. So anyway, he said thanks.
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And the thing is I was looking him right in
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the eye when I said hello, right, and he wouldn't
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look me in the eye. He had his eyes were
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like dancing back and forth like he was either high
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or something, you know. He just it seemed really paranoid.
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And I was like, what is he so paranoid about,
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you know, because I really hadn't at that point, I
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hadn't thought about him. I thought maybe in the back
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of my mind that maybe they were up to no good.
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But I didn't find out until later that they were
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in the bathroom for half an hour. I only asked
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about that later, you know, So at the time, I
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didn't know that he was in the bathroom for half
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an hour. I just thought they were back there doing something,
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you know, talking, you know, because I mean a lot
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of times, if you're in this business, comic for his business,
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you know, you're out there, you're talking about comics, could
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be like doing that for a long while, So that
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could have been what they were doing. I don't know anyway,
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so I him and then he finally gets in the
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car with his boy toy or whatever and they leave.
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So then I'm onto two passes and I was watching
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I think Entertainment Tonight or some shit like that extra
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and they brought up this Michael Jackson is being sued,
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and then they and it says they talk about Jordie Chandler,
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and then they bring up this this guy who was
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the driver of Michael Jackson who confirmed it and that
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it was the same guy in the glasses, And I'm like, okay, well,
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then I wasn't making I wasn't imagining saints. That just
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makes brings it home for me because I assumed that
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that might have been going on, but I wasn't gonna,
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you know, I mean, I was pretty sure that was true,
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but I wasn't going to just say for a fact
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it's true. I'm not going to just jump to the
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conclusions that he was doing that. But anyway, so well,
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that pretty much brought home. And then you know, later
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various things were coming out that just made it worse,
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made it more and more likely that it was real. Well,
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I think that Martin Burshooter interviewed if he did with
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Michael Jackson really brought it home with the one where
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they do the tour of Michael Jackson's house and Michael
478
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:23.000
Jackson said, he loves sleeping with kids. It's one of
479
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.839
the most beautiful things that you can do, share your
480
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:28.119
bed with the kid. And then he and then he
481
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.400
would sit and then they showed like all this creepy
482
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.640
artwork on his walls, some of which were just unbelievably creepy.
483
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:39.279
One was like all these little cherubs dancing around him.
484
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:42.440
A hanging of him surrounded by all these cherubs were
485
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:46.960
like these babies with wings and just it just looked
486
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:49.079
like super creepy. It looks like, I don't know, if
487
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:53.119
you know anything about that Pizza Gate story, if you've
488
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.799
seen some of that creepy artwork, it's in that vein,
489
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.599
you know, it's just like super creepy artwork that it
490
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:04.359
just man. You know, Apparently there is this pedophile thing
491
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:08.240
is like a huge thing that was especially with rich people,
492
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:14.920
and so apparently it's it's very prevalent and Hollywood and
493
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:20.319
other places like that. In politics, and so he was
494
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:24.519
probably well protected and you know, because he was a
495
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:29.559
huge Democrat donor and he was put on these huge
496
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.160
fundraisers for the Democrats and everything, and uh so he
497
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:35.880
probably had a lot of protection on that score.
498
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:39.960
And uh yeah, you know because the tour that I
499
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:41.640
was only off the air with that tour that I
500
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.400
knew about what happened was uh I used to own
501
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.759
a cell phone business, cell phones, a beepers of cell phones.
502
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.119
So the guy that installed my car phones and cars
503
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:52.400
for me and became friendly and I became friends with
504
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.559
his father, and his father worked on that thriller tour.
505
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:57.400
No it was, it might have been. It was one
506
00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:01.640
of the tours that was promoted by Al Sharpton and
507
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:06.319
that mafia guy Frank Sayce and so, and I says,
508
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:09.200
I don't know if I feel what I said. He says, oh, yeah,
509
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:12.359
Michael Jackson. I mentioned Al Sharpton and he's, oh yeah,
510
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.240
he's a bad guy. And Michael Jackson is a bad
511
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.119
guy because you know, they caught Michael Jackson with little
512
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.839
boys during that tour and they all covered it up.
513
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:22.000
And so then and it is way before the Jordy
514
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:24.200
Shannons thing hit the news. And I said to her,
515
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:25.480
I said, well, why don't we go to the National
516
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.319
Choir and he says that no way, these are all
517
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:30.720
bad guys. These are all really dangerous guys. You can't
518
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.440
do it, can't you touch them? So it was the
519
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:34.200
same kind of thing.
520
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:39.680
No, I'm sure he was heavily protected by out of
521
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:43.119
powerful people. That's you know, there's a thing with a
522
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:46.400
lot of these elites. They are involved in this kind
523
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:52.039
of stuff human trafficking and and pedophilly. And in the
524
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.359
case of Michael, I don't think he was doing He
525
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:56.640
wasn't killing kids or anything. I mean, some of these
526
00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:00.160
pedophiles do they.
527
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.400
Hey, you want to know what when you listen to Pelocano,
528
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.839
his his private investigator, Anthony Pelicano, that he'd made a
529
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:09.160
statement saying, uh, sleep a little little boys, that's the
530
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.960
least of it. If people know what Michael Jackson really did,
531
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.799
they'd go crazy.
532
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:17.000
So I would love. It's too bad that he got
533
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.200
sent away because I'm sure he has a lot of
534
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:23.480
good stuff. Because he was also involved in Hillary's right,
535
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:27.480
he was. Hillary hired him to go after the women
536
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.960
who accused Bill of raping them and stuff and lesting them,
537
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:36.039
so she sent Pelicano after them, and so yeah, so
538
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.599
he's probably got some amazing Dirk, but of course he
539
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.720
would probably be smart not to say too much of it.
540
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:43.519
The word is, the word is he wants to sell
541
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:45.559
his tapes. He's from prison, he's talking right now. He
542
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:46.519
wants to sell his tapes.
543
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:48.960
So could.
544
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.920
You imagine, Oh yeah, Well, first of all, this human
545
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:58.559
traffic thing is is scary and disturbing because for my research,
546
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:02.440
I found that that a lot of these social services
547
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:03.319
programs where.
548
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.680
They take kids away from parents for whatever reason, that
549
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.720
these kids often disappear, that social services sells them to
550
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:17.000
human traffickers. This is like horrible stuff. And then a
551
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.759
lot of these kids end up dead. And there's people
552
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.200
that was traced like a lot of these kids in
553
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.480
like around Washington, DC area, Maryland and around there that
554
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.839
there's a massive amount of kids that go missing in
555
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:33.200
these areas and this all over the country. And really,
556
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.279
if you go back and look, there's been like in
557
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.000
the eighties there was this huge thing with Boystown where
558
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:43.440
this politician was a Republican was involved in Boystown and
559
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.519
this huge pedophile thing going on there. I mean, this
560
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.640
stuff's been going on for a while and it's pretty disturbing.
561
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:54.519
And really he's just Jackson's just a tip of the
562
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:59.880
iceberg and really is revealing that. I mean, people should
563
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.960
stop trying to say it doesn't exist, because it does exist.
564
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:08.160
It's real, and it's it's got to stop. And I mean,
565
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:11.640
like in the case of Jackson, you know, later they
566
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.680
found that he had a secret room and is neverland
567
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.759
ranch and had all this pornography and everything in it.
568
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.720
He was definitely into kids. It wasn't imaginary. But whenever
569
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.680
I tell this story, the times I've told it online,
570
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.119
I've done it a few times, including the time at
571
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:35.000
Brightbar that you read, there's always like Jackson fans that's
572
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.640
called me a liar. And the thing is is, look,
573
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:39.640
I just happened to be there at the right time.
574
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:41.480
It's just happened to be the same I used to
575
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.960
shop at the same story he shopped at. It. I
576
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.599
just happened to be there one day when he was there.
577
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.279
It's no magic and it's not a lie. Because I
578
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.680
know other people that were there that they would maybe
579
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.279
willing to talk about it. I don't know. I didn't
580
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.559
ask them. But it's it's for real. It's not a joke,
581
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.279
and it doesn't I don't really it doesn't matter if
582
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.920
my story is believed because there's so much other solid
583
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.759
advance since it is true, you know, it's not like
584
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.839
imaginary storry, And like you say, it was going on
585
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:16.680
along before Jordie Chandler. I mean, there were apparently many
586
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:20.039
instances where he'd just been paying off families, you know,
587
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.599
like families would The thing is, this is a sick
588
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:24.960
thing that I was telling you, is that a lot
589
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.079
of these families deliberately let their kids be abused and
590
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:32.519
then they wanted payouts to keep it quiet about it.
591
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.119
So there's I'm told millions of dollars he probably spent
592
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:38.799
paying off people over the years.
593
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.119
And I got a couple of questions for you back
594
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:44.440
to Iday at the comic book store when they were
595
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.079
getting into the car, did you see Jordie Chandler then,
596
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.279
And did he look nervous or suspicious as well?
597
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:54.000
Yes, I saw him. No, he didn't look nervous. He
598
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:59.359
just he looked like, how do you say it? When
599
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:03.359
people they're like I feel they're important, or they feel
600
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:08.640
like they're like in a different you know, like a
601
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.240
famous person or somebody who's they have, like they avoid
602
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.759
eye contact and they just get in the car without
603
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:17.720
looking at anyone and they act like they're important. So
604
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.480
he was like that. He was. He just didn't make
605
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.799
any eye contact with anyone and he just got in
606
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.319
the car. He did not act like he was afraid
607
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.400
of anyone or I really, like I say, I really
608
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.319
think he was consensually involved, and I think it was,
609
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:38.160
and maybe he wasn't because I apparently he's not gay
610
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.000
now apparent. I've read an interview with him years ago
611
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.920
where he's now an adult and he's got a girlfriend
612
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:51.480
and everything. But you know, it's what a vulnerable teenager
613
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.480
can be seduced by an older person, especially if they're famous.
614
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.680
And I get a lot of these kids that Michael
615
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.920
Jackson seduces where fans of his. They were seduced by
616
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:04.880
somebody who's like a famous person. So it was easy
617
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.559
for him to do that. And he has all he
618
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:11.319
had all of this. He turned his you know, his
619
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:14.279
his Neverland runs into some kind of playground that had
620
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.160
like amusement park in the zoo and all these video
621
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.680
games and all these toys, and it was like a
622
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.640
creepy it was really like a high end pedophile paradise.
623
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:28.079
Imagine. Yeah, you know I had that. I mean, I
624
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.799
had Diane Diamond on the show, and she told the
625
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.039
story about how she had heard that after the story
626
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.480
came out about Jordi Chandler. She had heard that his
627
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.799
parents would drop him off at the movie theater all
628
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.599
by himself early in the afternoon and leave him the
629
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.400
until five six o'clock in night when then came back
630
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.039
to pick him up. So all she had to do
631
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:48.720
was go to that movie theater and look for him
632
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:50.720
and find him and pull aside and start talking to him.
633
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.000
So this kid was an at risk kid from the
634
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:57.240
very start, you know, that's.
635
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.599
The case of most of these kids. From one understand
636
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.480
they have Well, first of all, what kind of parents
637
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.319
let their kid be abused like that? You know, I
638
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.960
mean it's all these parents are just scum really, they
639
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.280
just have these ancient kids that they just threw to
640
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.599
the lines. Then they just wanted it for them. They
641
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.599
just wanted to get as much money out of it
642
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.400
as they could, you know, And that's really the heart
643
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.079
of it. Really. It's one of this stuff is that
644
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:26.599
these people weren't taking care of their kids in the
645
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:30.159
first place. Even if he had never been in Michael
646
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.320
Jackson had to enter their lives, they would have ended
647
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.719
up screwed up anyways, because his parents were neglectful and
648
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.480
they didn't care about their own kids. Because I mean, really,
649
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:41.760
I mean, you'd have to really not care about your kids.
650
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:47.360
Took to just dump them somewhere for that. I mean, well,
651
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:51.880
you know, I mean my generation, our parents let us
652
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:56.320
wander around without supervisions a lot, and I did. It
653
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:59.159
wasn't a problem for me. But I mean some of
654
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.280
these things that these it's not it's beyond the pale.
655
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.440
I mean, it's one thing to let your kid go
656
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.159
to the movies for two for four hours or whatever.
657
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.599
It's another thing because you know where they are. But
658
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.480
if you if you're just leaving them with some old
659
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.800
guy for like days, yes, something there's something wrong about that.
660
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.800
Well, even the movie theater, you know, because I'm fifty
661
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:24.920
five years old, and when I was a kid, the
662
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:27.760
movie theater was a haven for these uh, these perverts,
663
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:31.079
you know, and we saw it, you know, and even
664
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:32.559
I remember too. They wouldn't let us go up the
665
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.679
women when the women were the women what do they
666
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.639
call those ushers? When the ushers were winning, They wouldn't
667
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.239
let us go up in a balcony they is, don't
668
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:42.360
ever go up there. But then sometimes when these young
669
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.440
men were the ushers, they would let us go up
670
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.000
into the as soon as I want. I remember going
671
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:47.719
up there once. Man, I seeing these old men up there.
672
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.280
It is for Mattine. There's no reason for these guys
673
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.519
to be up there watching these kid movies with cartoons
674
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.280
back in those days. Man, like you know these kid movies.
675
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:57.840
But yeah, you know what I mean.
676
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:00.440
Well, let me ask a couple of questions though too now. Now,
677
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:06.440
back at this time when the whole Jordi Chandlers story broke,
678
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.639
was there and they would pressing charges against Jackson. But
679
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:11.639
did anybody come to you and ask you to testify
680
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:14.000
it was your story known, did you think about inserting
681
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.840
yourself into the case and offering your testimony.
682
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.360
No, my story wasn't known, and I didn't try to
683
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.480
make it known because I didn't think it was that
684
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:25.199
big of a story, and there was much bigger stories
685
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.119
being broke about Jackson, so I didn't feel it was
686
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.400
necessary for me to add fuel of fire. I would
687
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:33.960
just I just All I did was I went back
688
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:35.880
and talked to my friends, and they're the ones that
689
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.119
filled me in on the fact that Michael Jackson was
690
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:40.920
in the bathroom for half an hour, because like I said,
691
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.239
I didn't know that at the time. I just knew
692
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.480
that they were back there for a while, gotcha. But
693
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:48.039
they had a lot of experience dealing with Michael Jackson,
694
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:52.159
and it was just like, you know, he's just another customer,
695
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.360
and they just you know, they would have these celebrities
696
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.320
come in and out of there, and they just they
697
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.480
didn't They just pretend not to notice anything, because I
698
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:05.280
mean that it's like if you're dealing with namous people,
699
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.159
that's kind of what you do if you have a business,
700
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:11.000
and it's good for their business to have famous people
701
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.960
going in and out of there. So they just ignored,
702
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:19.360
you know, not just the nature of la So yeah,
703
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.239
I didn't want to. I'm not the kind of person
704
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:26.679
that trying to exploit the situation. I only first time
705
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:31.000
I wrote about it publicly was on that Breitbart site,
706
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.039
and it was years later and after Michael Jackson was dead.
707
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:36.960
It was right actually that story. I wrote that story
708
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:42.079
right after he died, just to say, you know that
709
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:47.519
this was my experience because people were basically lionizing him
710
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.079
when he died, and I just felt like people should know,
711
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.159
should not ignore the truth about it, because I don't
712
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:57.920
think it's I don't think it's cool if that's what
713
00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:59.719
he was doing, I don't think it's cool. I mean
714
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:03.199
like his music, and I think he was a very
715
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:06.599
screwed up person. You know his dad would.
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My son is dad too is dead I used to
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live in Encino, which is where his parents lived, and
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I used to see his real his brothers, and his
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I never saw his mom, but I saw his dad
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once in the super orchard and I just happened to
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be right behind him in the supermarket line. Yeah.
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I saw the dad in the casino over here once
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at the sports book, and I also saw him and
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his sister. LaToya lived over there in the same I
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lived in Seven Hills, because our guest today, James Hudnall,
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has lived in Vegas here. He lived in Henderson, where
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I lived for a while years ago. And when I
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first moved to Seven Hills, LaToya lived in Seven Hills,
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and I saw her and some guys she was with,
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you know, getting into a very expensive Mercedes out in
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front of We use the same dry cleaners, you know,
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So they were around. Hey, you know that story about
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the Joe Jackson too stealing that money from that Korean
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church diver. Hear that story? He scam about a little,
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that buddy.
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No, I didn't hear that one, but I'm not surprised. Yeah.
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Well, and and then two of the Jackson brothers too,
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they have babies with the same woman, you know, they
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were both you know.
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So yeah, they they they're all the brothers whore kind
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of screwed up from whatever that I've I've didn't talk
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to his brothers, but I've I sat next to one
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of them, that is, at a car wash where I
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was waiting to get my car, was waiting for my
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car to come out, and he was sitting on the
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bench next to me, and he like looked at I
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think it was Randy and he like looked at me.
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Because a lot of time celebrities, like especially Celias celebs,
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they will like they were hoping you'll recognize them and say, oh,
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it's you. And I don't do that. I don't care
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if somebody's famous. The only time I've ever done that
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is somebody I really really really like, like Rutger Hower
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or something like that. But I mean most celebrities, they're
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just people for now. The so like, uh, I was
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sitting next to him in the car. And I've also
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met a lot of ton of celebrity, I mean like
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sports celebrities. My sister works for the Red Sox and
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and I've just h I've also got I've just run.
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I just run in those circles, especially when I lived
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in LA I would meet a lot of these people,
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and to me, they're just people I don't and I
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don't follow a lot of that's sports, so I don't
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really I knew who they were. I just didn't care.
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But well, I mean I've met Like when I lived
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in LA I met a ton of celebrities. It just
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got to be, you know, like meeting people in general.
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But yeah, so Michael Jackson is just one of the
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more famous people I've met, but I've met tons more,
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you know.
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Well, James, let me take you away.
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Just so he's the one that stands out.
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Let me take a little guy. Obviously, he's in a bathroom,
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a little kid, for for a half hour. Let me
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take a little commercial break here. When we come back,
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I want to ask you about your experience at Breitbart,
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because that theory about Breitbart making the comments about Pizzagate
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about Podesta. I'm interested in what you have to say
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about that. So let's take a little commercial break here
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where with the James Huddnall. He's going to be a
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comic con next week in San Diego, two weeks right
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for Lucky Comics. You've got a comic book coming out
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called Beatle Girl. What's that think called Beatle Girl?
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Beatle Girl is it's a com I've done a bunch
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of issues of that forum for them, but I mainly
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just do my own comics. But I've been doing some
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for them, and I like, you know, they're a nice
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little company. They're doing. It's fun comics, you know, so.
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You can tell I'm not a comic book guy, but
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I'm trying. I'm trying to trying to. Yeah, there's a
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couple of books to the Chest and Secrets.
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Of Richest and the Secrets of Writing. I also wrote
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either printer or digital better booksellers.
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Okay, we'll be right back after these messages with more
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James Huddnall's gonna be a comic Con next week. James
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there I lost James. Did I lose James?
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I don't mind.
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Hey James, how were I had? Joum? Mute, sir about that?
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Never now? Before the show? Well, no, earlier, you were
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talking about Pizzagate. What do you know about you? I
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have you heard that rumor? By the way, I was
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the first guy, the first radio host to do a
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show about Pizzagate when it first broke now, and I've
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done a few shows about it, and I've talked to
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some witnesses off the air, so I'm very convinced the
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basics of the story. At least now. There's a story
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out there that Breitbart made a comment on Twitter about
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Podesta that could have been alluded to Pizzagate. What do
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you make of that?
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It's not true. Lee Stranahan, who was a longtime reporter
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for Breitbart and recently laughed, I was there for about
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two and a half years, but he stayed there for
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a while on and off. He went left and came back.
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But like he knew Andrew pretty well. I knew Andrew
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and I talked to him a few times on the phone,
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but I never got to meet him. Unfortunately. He asked
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me to join Breitbart himself, which was cool. But anyway,
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at least Ranahan came later and they were friends and
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they lived in La. So trying a hand pointed out
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on if you go to YouTube, he has he has
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videos up there where he does is now he does
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his own reporting on there, and he showed that he
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debuanted it because what it is is there's some Twitter
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feed that looked like they were Breitbart talking about Podesta
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and pizzagate like years before the incident. Well he didn't
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say the word pizzagate, of course, but he said that
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the tweet supposedly said why isn't Podesta being investigated for,
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you know, pedophilia or whatever it was, And it turns
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out that those were manufactured, that they didn't Breitbart never
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said it, because if you go to Breitbart, could Breitbart's
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tweat are still on Twitter? And if you go to
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Twitter and you just look through his tweets towards the
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end of his life, you'll see that there are no
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such tweets. So I don't think that those were real.
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But that doesn't mean that Podesta isn't a creepy The
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Podesta brothers, his brother as well, aren't involved in some
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creepy stuff because they are, and they're also behind the
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whole Russia narrative about Trump and Russia. It's all Podesta
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Podesta invention because it's Podessa brothers who have deals with Russia.
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They and they're part of that uranium deal that Hillary
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gave Russia, where they gave us twenty percent of the
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US uranium to Russia. That's they're trying to deflect from Trump,
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I mean from them, Excuse me, they're trying to deflect
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during you know, they were trying to push it all
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the heat onto Trump and of course it's all been
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debunked now, so that's why the media is backing off
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on it. But now it looks like the investigates is
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turning I'm back on them, so on the on the
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Hillary camp. So that's really it'll be interesting to see
952
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.280
where that leads. But but that's the big thing with
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him is the spirit cooking thing, which is you know,
954
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:18.400
very disturbing. Uh. Basically, he's there's a woman that's sort
955
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.360
of like some kind of weird spiritual guru for these
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00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:27.199
people and they have the Satanic rituals. Yeah Brahmovitch. Yeah,
957
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:32.280
she's pretty creepy and she's like pushing eighty, but she
958
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.719
looks really young. Apparently she means in the blood of
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children or something. I don't know.
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Yeah, I was going to say that, Yeah, she looks
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remarkably young for a woman her age. And also too,
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have you ever seen the videos of her ceremonies and
963
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:48.320
stuff like that. She's got these uh this this backyard
964
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with these ancient stone rooms almost where they go in
965
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:55.440
there and they kiss the walls and stuff. Whatever is
966
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:56.920
going on back to those things have been there for
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00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.599
hundreds of years. Very the whole Pizza g things just
968
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:02.679
so disturbing. And like you said too, you're absolutely right
969
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:06.760
about the protestas being involved in dealings with Russia, and
970
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.480
their name came up in the Panama Gate, the Panama
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papers with those Panamanian banks, their names came up in
972
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there too.
973
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So it's but oh, they're dirty, as they're unbelievably dirty.
974
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:22.559
The wole Clinton organization is just an organized crime cartel.
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00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:27.039
I mean they're involved in like unbelievable stuff. The Clinton
976
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:31.760
Foundation basically taking millions of dollars in bribes from these
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dictatorships in like Africa and the Middle East, and then
978
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and then laundering it through all these different organizations and
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putting it into her campaign, and so they were getting
980
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:48.079
illegal foreign money, and you know, it's just it's just
981
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ridiculous that they were able to get away with it
982
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because this basically the the elites have been protecting her
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because she was the one that they wanted, you know,
984
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.719
and it's sick that our society has become so corrupt
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like this. But it's I think it's we're at a
986
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point now in history where it's it's sort of like
987
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they're going to go one way or the other. Hopefully
988
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we'll go in a positive direction, but we're at that
989
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.199
point where things come to a head. And at times,
990
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if it looks through history, there's always a point in
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time where things come to a head where corruption gets
992
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.679
so far and then it just you know, things come
993
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:33.880
a part of they they restart, they reboot, and things
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00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:37.639
take a new direction. You know. So like World War
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00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:42.920
One was one of those situations where there's royals everywhere,
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corrupt royalty, and then you had World War One and
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then that collapsed and it was a new system after that.
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You know. So yeah, anyway, let.
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Me ask you this now, then, what do you because
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00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.280
obviously I did a whole show, I did shows about
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00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.320
the Clinton War and women. I've had all those guys
1002
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:05.920
on here, all the women I've had on here, and
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00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:11.199
their whole show about Clinton Foundation with Charles Rtel. What
1004
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:13.639
they've done in hades is unbelievable. But now, but what
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00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.599
do you make though when you see Trump and his
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00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:19.159
connections with Epstein? And Trump too has a lot of
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00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.280
He's been photographed with Michael Jackson several times as well,
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00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.039
they had Jackson was on his plane. What do you
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00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:26.639
make of that of Trump and Epstein and all that
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00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:27.239
kind of stuff.
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00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:32.920
Well, his affiliation with Epstein is pretty limited. I mean,
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Epstein was somebody who got around power circles. And the
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thing is when you're somebody like Trump.
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00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.519
They always told Will he was too short to play basketball,
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00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.480
but Will never listened. We'll let his work ethic do
1016
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the talking for him. Always in the gym, always running drills.
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Will knew where there was a will, there was a way,
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00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:54.920
and he was Will. But then after his second child
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00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:57.239
was born, he realized the bros were all way better
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than him. So Will gave up and buried his high
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tops in a tier full ceremony. But one day he
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00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:04.360
heard that Geico could save him money on car insurance,
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so he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome.
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Cheers gonna hobnob with a lot of these people because
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that's the people in your circles in that world. I
1038
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:49.239
don't trump. It seems to be a very straight up
1039
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.400
guy from what I've seen. He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke,
1040
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.880
he doesn't do drugs, and he just and the reason
1041
00:55:56.920 --> 00:56:00.239
they hate him is because he doesn't care. They can't
1042
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:03.639
bribe him because he's already got money, so it's like
1043
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:08.599
he's really driving them crazy and he also is smarter
1044
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:10.559
than they are in terms of he knows how to
1045
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:14.679
play the media better than the media, understands everything that
1046
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.360
he every tweet he does. That drives them insane is
1047
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.440
really what it does is it makes them look worse
1048
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.400
to the public. And the thing is, if you go
1049
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:26.800
back and look at at the Bill Clinton impeachment, the
1050
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:31.719
impeachment only made him more popular because people will look
1051
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:34.440
at the president as an underdog if they feel that
1052
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:38.480
he's being bullied. So what's happened is they're bullying Trump
1053
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.719
and calling for his assassination and all this stuff. It's
1054
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:43.519
just going to make him more popular. It's not going
1055
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:46.119
to make him less popular. They're just making him. They're
1056
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:49.719
making sure that he gets reelected. And they're really destroying
1057
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:53.360
themselves politically. I mean they're going to suffer from massive,
1058
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:56.400
massive losses. They already I mean, they didn't win any
1059
00:56:56.440 --> 00:57:01.199
special election this year. And they really don't have a
1060
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:05.239
clue what they're doing. I mean, they they've gone so far,
1061
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:09.480
so extreme, and they're just spouting this crazy stuff. It's
1062
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:12.599
crazy talk. This is beyond belief. You know, it's not
1063
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:14.960
what the same people will do. I Mean, really, if
1064
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.880
you're if you're trying to convince people. You don't convince
1065
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:22.760
them with screeching in hysteria, convince them with you know,
1066
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:26.559
like logic and or things. You know. Well, see, they've
1067
00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:29.719
been here's the thing. They've been trying to manipulate people
1068
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:33.639
by appealing to their baser instincts for decades. They've been
1069
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:36.719
using I mean, I don't know what you know about
1070
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:39.719
Edward Burnez and that whole thing, but I mean basically
1071
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:44.559
they've been using psychology on the public Detroit to morph there.
1072
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.920
You know, they've been trying to destroy the cultural identity
1073
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.599
of the US and the family unit and all that stuff.
1074
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.599
It's been a long, ongoing campaign that's been going on
1075
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:57.920
for years, and you're seeing the results in the waye
1076
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.239
society is now. It's a mess. So it's all been
1077
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:06.400
orchestrated and for decades, and you know, basically trying to
1078
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.760
divide everyone and trying to get everyone to hate each other,
1079
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:14.679
with various ethnic groups hating each other and then sexual groups,
1080
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.800
and you know, they they're just really just trying to
1081
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:18.599
divide and conquer.
1082
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:20.679
And we're familiar with that. The audience is very familiar
1083
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:21.800
with that. And I would invite you to go back
1084
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.280
and look at my shows too about Epstein. But now,
1085
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.280
but now you're seeing that the Democrats doing it because
1086
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.000
the Rockefeller Foundation, they were Republicans and they did a
1087
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:29.400
lot too.
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00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:31.639
Oh no, no, no, don't don't get me wrong. I don't.
1089
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:36.239
I'm personally I'm politically agnostic. I don't believe in political
1090
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:42.800
parties because both sides are two faces of the same coin,
1091
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:43.199
you know.
1092
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.400
Just but you just seem to be like a Trump supporter,
1093
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.440
right then what do you make of like Trump having
1094
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:51.199
Kissinger there in his office his friendship without.
1095
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.639
It, I don't agree with the lot with He's got
1096
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:56.960
some globalists in there, and I don't agree with that.
1097
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:01.519
But but you want to you have hoping Trump.
1098
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:03.119
I have hope that there's going to be some kind
1099
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:04.079
of an avenue Atrium.
1100
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:08.000
All I can do is hope, yeah, because here's the thing,
1101
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:10.079
you don't You're not going to get any choices. I mean,
1102
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:12.800
he's like a wildcard basically, and he's going to go
1103
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:16.519
either way. But you would have otherwise got another a
1104
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.360
Bush or Clinton, and it would have been just the same.
1105
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.360
You know, it's the same difference, really, I mean both
1106
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:27.360
have their own issues, you know. The bushes aren't clean either,
1107
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:33.000
So I mean, it's it's really a terrible situation. But
1108
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:37.559
I would rather think hope that things will be better
1109
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.960
now because he does, because at least Trump seems to
1110
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.800
be trying to fix some things, and I really do
1111
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:47.239
see that. I don't know if he'll be successful, but
1112
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.639
so far it looks good, so we'll see. But he
1113
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:52.760
has to fight an incredibly intraned bureaucracy that doesn't want
1114
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:56.320
to be succeed so it's going to be interesting to
1115
00:59:56.360 --> 01:00:00.000
see if he succeeds. But I have to be honest,
1116
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.960
I've been predicting since I was a teenager, and I'm
1117
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:05.800
sixty years old. I've been predicting since I was a
1118
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:08.559
teenager that eventually there will be another civil war in
1119
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:13.000
the US because they've been just dividing us and succeeding
1120
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:18.800
in dividing us, and because you know, the world is
1121
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:22.320
about like these elites that want to control everything. They
1122
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:25.559
don't want people to be free, so they want to
1123
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:31.920
destroy whatever allows any kind of Like the US Constitution
1124
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:35.960
is one of the greatest things ever created because it's
1125
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:39.519
one of the best blueprints for society. It's lasted for
1126
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.320
you know what two and fifty years or whatever it's been,
1127
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.559
and I mean that's longer than almost any country in
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01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:51.000
the world has existed. The current governments of all these countries,
1129
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:56.719
these were the one the oldest surviving democracies in the world. World.
1130
01:00:56.719 --> 01:01:01.719
We're a public but anyway, so I mean it's a success.
1131
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:05.920
But you know, when you are successful, people want to
1132
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:09.280
tear you down. So that's been the attitude of a
1133
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:13.519
lot of these places. James n ahead.
1134
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.119
We're totally out of time, out of time, but I
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01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:16.840
can't thank you enough.
1136
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:17.039
Man.
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01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:20.280
It's a fascinating story about Michael Jackson and fascinating to
1138
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:23.119
know someone and debunking that story about Breitbard. I really
1139
01:01:23.159 --> 01:01:26.599
appreciate that too as well. I think you'd enjoy some
1140
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:27.920
of my shows if you go back and into the
1141
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:30.000
archives and check it. I'll send you a link because
1142
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.320
I've had all a lot of same stuff we talk about.
1143
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:38.000
Thank you so much, James hudd No, I almost said
1144
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.880
heart al James Huddendall, and he's gonna be a comic
1145
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:42.760
con check him out. He writes for a Lucky Comic
1146
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:46.039
sometimes got his own publishing company. Many books to to
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01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:49.320
the chest and secrets of writing. James thank you so much.
1148
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:57.840
Thank you, all right, James Huddle. Still it's fascinating to
1149
01:01:57.880 --> 01:01:59.639
see people who still have hope and Trump, you know,
1150
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.760
but God bless him. And for sixty years old. If
1151
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:04.480
he's six years old, he looks great. Because I saw
1152
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:06.519
some pictures on my Facebook because it's guys. I thought
1153
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.840
he was younger than me. So it's good to hear that.
1154
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:16.039
All right, let's see here play some of this. You
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