Ochelli Effect 9-18-2026 Friday Open Mic with B Peye

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Get ready for the Ocelli Effect.
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Ocelli Effect.
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All right. September 18, 2026, allegedly, according to that thing
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we call a calendar. And this is your completely depressive,
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you know, damaged host for the Ocelli Effect. And you
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know that because you found the show. Our downloads are
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down significantly for the Friday night show. And it seems
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like the more work I do, the less you guys
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want to listen. It did, huh? Anyway, September is depressing.
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I explained that last night. If you heard the podcast,
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the Thursday night reboot, you know, with money over everything,
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Brad from over there. I like having him on and
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I want him to talk up more. So hopefully we're
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going to get more out of Brad in the future.
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And he's going to be on every week. Larry Hancock
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every other week still. And Mike Swanson has threatened to return.
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So he may not return in a steady way, but
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for hit and runs. So we're going to hear from
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Mike Swanson again real soon. And I do have people
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pestering me for interviews. They want to come on the show.
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God knows why. And they're even letting AI write stupid
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introduction letters to me. You know what? I might read
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one of those if we don't get enough callers tonight
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and we need to fill time. And we're going to
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go to at least quarter after 10 on the live show.
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But most of you are not listening to the live
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show any damn way, which means you can't call in
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at 319.
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527-5016.
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That is the number to call in live and you'll
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be put on hold. You'll hear the show. You'll hear
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the happenings behind the scenes when we go to a
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break even. And then you'll be put on hold until
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I get to you. I'll bring you on and you
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can speak and talk about whatever it is you want. Yeah,
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the callers are supposed to determine the discussion. Anyway, enough
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out of me. I told you what I'm doing in
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the very near future. I may have a surprise guest
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or two. Uh, one, maybe semi-famous. The other one, you're not,
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you haven't probably heard of yet, but it's going to
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be good if you do. Uh, interesting set of books, uh,
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written by two people. And these were books I read
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before and they put out new volumes, uh, lately and no,
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it's not the JFK assassination. No, it's not nine 11.
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I am depressed enough. I don't need to cover murder
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and mayhem, but, uh, it may be interesting, uh, when
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it comes to your linguistic skills, how it is you
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communicate and why it is you communicate. And even in fact,
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using the speech of a slave, when we discuss things
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with one another, automatically built into this custom language called
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American English is a whole bunch of predetermined, terrible things.
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And I have somebody who's a linguistics expert who might
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come on and explain that way better and articulate it
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a whole lot more smoothly than I do. with my
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running mouth, my Jersey accent, and clearly I'm a moron. So,
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you know, I got to get somebody smart on to
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explain what it is. I already know. And, uh, you
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guys need to hear this because it's all about communication
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and the way we speak to each other. But Hey,
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that's a preview way too long for a show. I
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haven't even booked yet.
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Anyways.
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Still, the Friday night open mic is a thing, and
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we'd like you to join in. 319-527-5016. That is always
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the number to call until I can't afford to pay
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that bill and I lose it, which isn't happening this
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month thanks to exactly three people. And if I got
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to do this call-in show for exactly three people, that's
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what we'll do for a while. But I'd prefer more
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of you joined in. 319-527-5016. That is the number to
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become part of this and the podcast ever after. as
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long as I can keep it up on the internet anyway. Oh,
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and Ocelli and the Greek is done. The Rated Y
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thing is over, just so you know. So another loss,
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a little bit of revenue, I get a cut of that. But,
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you know, what are you going to do? It's over,
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but the archive is there, and we'll see what gets
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done with that. Over 300 recordings in that series, Rated Y.
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But anyways, I'll talk about that in the future, as
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I'm waiting for the dust to settle on the Greek quitting. So,
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you know, it is what it is. And everybody quits
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on me because I am a horrible human being and
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difficult to work with, apparently. And that's not why Aaron
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Franz quit recently, just so you know. BP, let's get
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to you before I run off at the mouth about
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more stupid things that nobody wants to hear about. How
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are you doing this week? What stupid things do you
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have that nobody wants to hear about? BP, go ahead.
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It's been a busy week.
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It really has.
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I've had to do some maintenance and stuff on the...
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for mowers and weed eaters just to keep my gambling
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money up. But other than that, I mean, it's been
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hot as hell again this week. We're finally going to
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see some relief next week. We're talking lows in the
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60s and highs in the upper 70s, and I am
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looking forward to it. It's been a long summer. We've
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been dealing with it since the end of February, the
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end of March. So I'm looking forward to some fall.
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Yeah, interruption real fast. BP's weather report is brought to
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you by BP, because most of you don't chip in.
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It is also brought to you by Danny's. It is
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also brought to you by Jimmy James. Other than that,
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that's who chips in for the Friday Night Weather Report.
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BP's Weather Report, again, sponsored by just those three guys.
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I said, you know, what other stupid things do you
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have to say? Not particularly because of you, but because
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that was the feedback I got most recently about the
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Friday Night Show, is that we talk about stupid things
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that nobody wants to hear about. So I wanted to
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make sure I used that phrase so that somebody knows
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I read their email. Go ahead.
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It brings up a good point. If people don't like
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what the hell we talk about, call in and change
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the damn subject. Idiots.
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Well, you know, it's funny because it almost sounds like
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you wrote my email response to the guy, which is
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at any time you could call in and change this.
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So you could give us something new and even more
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stupid to talk about if you want. And maybe people
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want to hear your stupid talk. This is what I'm
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saying sarcastically. I don't know if I communicate sarcasm in
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writing very well, but that's what I said.
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Well, if you think about it, during the week, between
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all of the social media and all of the online
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news and all of the broadcast news, People pretty much– well,
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I take that back. Most people pretty much know what's
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kind of going on. Now, whether they give a damn
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or not is up to them. They're going to pick
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up on those things that they're really interested in and
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the rest of it they don't give a damn about.
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But Friday night, there's not many places you can call
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in on a Friday night and talk about anything. We
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talk about the things that interest us. Here's the problem.
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If we start picking– three or four topics from the
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week that we know we're going to get people to
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disagree with, they're not going to listen at all. I mean,
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we can talk about this Macklemore, Ed Sheeran thing that's
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going on in the music business. Right. But we don't
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want to get into that because the politics, I can
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tell you right now, I'm going to piss a whole
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lot of people off. These guys all have lawyers. They
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all have contracts. Now it's turned into this pissing contest
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over who can donate the most to certain things. And
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I even saw a post tonight on Twitter. Well, Macklemore
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is worth $ 25 million, and he's given a million. But
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Ed Sheeran is worth $ 400 million, and he's only given
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a million. And who's the guy that owns Gillette Stadium? No.
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He's worth $ 1 billion, but he's only given $ 2 million.
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So when you look at the percentages, I'm sitting here thinking...
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Nobody goes the extra step and realizes no matter what
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happens in this publicity pissing contest, because that's what it is.
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It's just they're getting publicity. They're all going to write
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off their damn donations anyway.
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Well, yeah.
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It's a tax deduction.
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It's a tax deduction.
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It doesn't mean shit to them.
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It's a tax deduction, a PR stunt. And here's the
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other sad fact is no matter what the Internet tells
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you somebody's worth or what they have or anything else,
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you don't know. That happens every time I turn around.
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You don't know because if you do the math, these
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guys go bankrupt when they get sued for certain amounts
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of money sometimes. And it was assumed they had way
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more money than that. And they take a lawsuit and
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they go completely bankrupt and they're broke sometimes. Other times
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people think that they're going to go broke because people
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literally hire teams of others to hide their money. And
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not to show you where their money comes from. And
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some of those people are okay at their jobs. I'm
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just saying, regardless of your judgment about what some famous
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person allegedly has, guess what? You still don't know.
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I'm sorry.
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Go ahead.
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The big thing was like when they were going after
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Elon Musk. He's the first, what, trillionaire? Well, yeah, he is.
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But 99% of it is tied up in Tesla and
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SpaceX and all these other things. What's the company he's
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got going where they're trying to get implants for people
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with disabilities so that– oh, what is it? Is it–
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I can't think of the name of anyway, biological company
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that basically allowing people to see and hear and things
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like that.
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Oh, yeah. You know what? He brought up a couple
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of smaller ones that were actually doing real work and
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put it into that that combined thing that he's got now,
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that basket. And quite frankly, there was a promising thing
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where technology was going to help out for the blind,
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for sure, because I keep track of those things. And
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you notice– remember there was a pill a little while
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ago that they had a pill that was going to
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cure most kinds of blindness?
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Yeah.
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You notice that that disappeared from your news feeds? It's gone? Yeah,
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because it was bought up by the group of companies
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that were put together by the Musk group, and now
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it's just gone. Nobody's talking about it. So that got shelved. Goodbye.
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You know, and this is all a shuffling act with
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these tech tech companies. You know what I mean? Sometimes
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they float BS out there that they've got something that's
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big and bad. And it's just to drive up the
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stock price, manipulate people's interest, et cetera. There is a
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whole game going on there that unless you're actually read
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into it, quite frankly, we're observing it as if we
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know what's actually going on. We don't. I mean that's
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what I keep discovering over and over again every time
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I dig into stuff like that, which is hilarious to me.
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And people make a lot of judgments and will spend
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their lives and energy and time arguing on behalf or
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against people they will never meet and have nothing to
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do with their damn lives. And that kills me about
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social media, to be honest with you. Anyway, Danny is
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on the line. I want to get to him. Uh,
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but no, and you're dead right about that thing at
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the beginning, which is what I said. Hey, listen, you
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don't like the topics being discussed at any time. You
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personally could change it. You don't want to do it.
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Ask somebody else to do it. Any, any moment, bring it.
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I don't hold nobody back about what they want to
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talk about.
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Nobody.
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So come on, come on, you know, and I'm not
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even looking to argue with you. Now BP might, I
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can't control BP, but I'm not looking to argue with you.
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I want to hear what you got to say, even
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if it is stupid. Okay, I want to hear stupid.
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I want to hear stupid. I want to hear smart.
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Because here's the key thing, and I want everybody to
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hear me loud and clear on this. Even if somebody's
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a moron, whether they're a moron or a genius or
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anywhere in between, quite frankly, I have discovered that I
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can learn from everybody, no matter who they are. I
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can learn something. So if you're the type of person
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that likes to gather information, that likes to elevate their
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base knowledge, that likes to gain more experiences, you know
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what the best thing to do is? Listen to other people,
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no matter what it is they're saying or putting out
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there or anything else. I mean, you can be choosy.
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You don't have to listen to everybody. But this idea
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that people need to be shut down because you disagree
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with them or they're stupid or anything else. Why not
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learn from every one of them, even if they are stupid,
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even if they are wrong? Try and learn exactly how
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wrong they are. Do it. It's all useful. Anyways, Danny's
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on the line and be Pete. I don't know if
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you want to disagree with me before I put daddy
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on or say something else, but I want to put
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Danny on, but you got something you want to throw
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in before I do.
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Oh no, no, no. I agree with you completely. I just, it, it,
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The only thing that bothered me– now, I've not got it.
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I check my email more frequently now. But still, I've
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yet to have anybody want to send me an email
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with anything they want to critique on the show. Being
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on X, you meet these people all the time that
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want to argue and argue and argue. And they go
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and check my profile because they'll pull things off and go, well,
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what about this? They know every week I post on here,
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Friday night is open mic night. And not one, not one.
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Maybe that's one reason I'm so contentious on fucking Twitter.
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Trying to provoke somebody, all right, you've got your side
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of it come on the air let's talk about it
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not a single one.
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Yeah do it and believe me i'll try and advocate
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for you if you think you're going to get ganged
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up on by two hosts uh bp knows i'll try
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and work with the guy even if they're stupid okay
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he knows it i've done it before i i tried
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to work with the glenn uh never mind i don't
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even want to get into names uh i i tried
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to you know work on his behalf to make sure
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he got his bs heard and uh he's not the
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only one um anyway This is a guy who's not
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going to give us BS and a good guy and
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all that stuff. And I don't care what you say.
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This is my friend, which is exactly what I say
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about BP all the time. How do you sit there?
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You let that guy say. Yeah, he says what he wants.
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I don't control his thoughts and I don't expect anybody
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to be in a cult. But the thing is, that's
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also my friend. So watch it. Remember that. Uh, my
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friends are my friends. You want to be one of those?
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That ain't an easy trip. Ask any of them. Uh, anyways, me, Pete,
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hold on. We're going to get Danny on here if
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I can, if it'll cooperate. There we go. Danny from California.
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How you doing, man?
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I'm doing well tonight. More importantly, how are you doing?
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Well, as I told you and as I expressed last
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night on the on the live show, which is now
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a podcast today, I posted it a little late. You know,
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I let people into a little bit of what I
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told you in an email and what I would tell you,
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you know, in private conversations, because we have those now
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and then. Um, you know, September sucks for me. It
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always does. I dread it. I hate the month of September.
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And it's because on the 11th day of September, consistently terrible,
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horrible things have happened in my life. Um, and it's
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not like ever since 2001 and I'm just attached to
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the trauma narrative. And no, uh, 1976 starts my first
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problem with September 11th. Uh, that's the day my father
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committed suicide. And look, I'm not trying to harp on that,
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but 40 years later, his mother, who I knew actually
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gave a crap about me, dropped dead rather suddenly exactly
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40 years later, same date. And there's a whole lot
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of people in that tragedy sandwich. Uh, in between and
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things that happened to me personally, matter of fact, the
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Nick in my windpipe that gives me that wonderful buzz
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in my voice, that extra little buzz, the Nick in
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my windpipe, when somebody tried to pull a straight edge
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razor across it, uh, you know, and a friend barely
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saved me by a fraction of a second, to be
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honest with you, my friend, Tommy, who I'm going to
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be featuring in a chapter of the upcoming audio book.
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um saved me from that which i did not see
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coming i would have had my i would have had
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my windpipe severed with a very sharp blade um and
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that ready happened on september 11th okay i'm just saying
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september 11th is a day in my astrological chart where
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it's like get him And it sucks. And I do
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dread it on its way coming. And and I hate
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it afterwards. And it took me many years to realize
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that all this stuff kept happening to me on September 11th.
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And it was long after the events of 2001 that
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I realized, holy crap, all these things keep happening to
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me on September 11th. You know, so so September. Yeah,
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I'm moody and I'm upset. And there's more. There's stuff
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there's stuff I haven't even told Mrs. Oh, that's happened
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on September 11th to me. That is just coincidentally. Look
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at this over and over again that day. I should
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really just hide in a bunker somewhere because the universe
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says get him on September 11th for some reason. And
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there are some people, by the way, interesting thing, when
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they actually trace and they look at the Bible as
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a historical record, get ready for this one, a lot
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of people would place the crucifixion on calendar time, September 11th.
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I'm not saying that's accurate, but I am saying there's
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an argument to be made that that is possible based
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on astrological hints that are in the biblical text. But
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if you study it, you might see it, and if
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you don't study it, you just take their word for it,
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you don't know what I'm talking about. But September 11th,
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is a long ritualistic standing date, too, in various belief systems,
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let's say. And frankly, again, there are hints astrologically in
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your biblical text, in the language of preservation, that state
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that it's pretty close to exactly September 11, when Christ
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is crucified, according to the story. Now, I'm not saying
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I'm tied to that. I'm just saying. Yeah, go ahead.
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Well, how can that be when it's tied to Passover?
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Because there's inconsistencies in the timeline regarding that. If you
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study again, in this case, it would be the ancient Greek,
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that the New Testament is the oldest language that it's
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preserved in. If you read it properly and carefully translate it,
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that's wrong. It's not tied to Passover. The Last Supper
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is a Passover Seder.
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It has to be tied to Passover because that's what
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the week that he went into Jerusalem was Passover week.
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Yeah. What I'm trying to say is that there is
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one part of the story where that's part of it.
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And then there's another explanation in there. If you read it,
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that gives you a different timeline. The Last Supper is
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a Passover Seder. That symbol that we're all used to
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that was painted, you know, hundreds of years later, you know,
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and all that. So that famous event, that event, that
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watershed event is one thing, yes, but his actual crucifixion
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date is different. And things don't happen in a day
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necessarily exactly like it says in the Bible, like the
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next day something happened and this and that, if you
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read the original stuff. Because it tells you, you know,
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the moon was in this position or this or that
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was happening at this time. And you can read it.
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Have you got any links that you can email me?
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This is deep. Yeah, I probably do. I have not
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read them in a while. But this is like, you know,
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those guys who sit and study the Bible for 80 years.
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You know, who actually study every language that's written in
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and all that. And the kind of guys who, you know,
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literally as monks... handwrite multiple copies of the biblical text themselves.
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I could see the difference in calendars ending up at
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some time putting it on September 11th. With it being
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tied to Passover week, I don't see how that You
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see what I'm– you know what I'm getting at?
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Yeah, but also there's a misunderstanding about– look, September, even
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if you just look at the names, September, October, November,
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you know, Sept is 7, 8 is October. Okay, November
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is 9. All right, and yet these are not– No,
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November is 11. Yeah, I know that on your current calendar.
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That's not the right numbers. You see what I'm saying?
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There is a disconnect here with the names and when
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these things are set and exactly how they are reckoned.
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Like if you notice, there's two different birthdays, you know,
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for people at certain points in the year of our
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Lord this, but according to the calendar this. Um, there,
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there is a discrepancy there with the, the adopted calendar
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and yeah. So there, there's a whole thing to this
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that you got to go through to figure it out.
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And it just saying, there's an argument for it. I'm
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not even saying that I buy it. I'm just saying
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there's an argument for it.
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I'd be curious to read up on that.
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Yeah, no, it's interesting, but it's deep. It's like, you
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got to figure out like five different things before you
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can even go into the, okay, what's your explanation now?
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Like I said, just looking at the names of the months,
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that changes what it is you're looking at to begin
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with and who's referencing and who's writing about it. Like
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what year are we in according to the Jewish calendar basically, right?
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It's a lot deeper in years than 2026. You know
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what I'm saying? Stuff like that. Um, but there are
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discrepancies and don't forget there were declarations made because, you know,
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here's a leap year. That was an invention because somebody
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was trying to make an adjustment, you know, and there
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are people that argue that that adjustment is askew. And,
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you know, just like anything, if you change something by
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one degree at the source, by the time it gets
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to where it's supposed to go, it's 80 miles away,
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you know? Um, So it's just one of those things.
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I definitely am not equipped at this moment to explain
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it all. But I'm telling you, if you dig for yourself,
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you can find it. But I'll try and find stuff
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to get you started on BP for sure. Anyway, Danny,
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I'm being rude to you.
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If you know of a source, just email me a
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link or something.
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Yeah, it's a bunch of these like deep biblical scholar
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monk guys who, you know, all their stuff is published afterwards.
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You know, they sit there and that's all they do
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is reckon with the scripture and all that. Like they're
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the ones who, you know, reveal to me anyway, that,
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you know, the book of Revelations at certain points in
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history belongs in the Bible. At other points, it doesn't,
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you know, and both answers are correct. depending on who
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you're listening to. Like this, this is like really, really
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minutia when it comes to stuttering is studying the text.
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I mean, just to be able to understand the ancient
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Greek already is a problem because you got to use
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a concordance and go along with what each phrase means.
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different gender indicates a different amount indicates a different, you know,
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then what has been preserved and translated over time. Forget it. Uh,
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by the time you get to the English translation, I mean,
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I'm surprised it's even recognizable. It's actually remarkable that the
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story is still recognizable based on the mistakes that are
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made at certain points.
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Yeah, if you think about it, you know, a lot
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of the East Asian languages.
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Are like that.
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You know, one word can have 27 different meanings.
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And that's the other problem. Again, in the ancient languages, sure.
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And the ancient Hebrew is even more difficult because you're
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not even approaching the same alphabet. So it's a whole
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other issue. You know, like I make the joke all
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the time. Listen, it's interesting. There's a guy named Jesus
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at a time. There's no letter J. Well, it was Yeshua.
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And Yeshua is a different. Anyway, look, I don't I
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don't want to do this because I'm not here to
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piss people off. OK, but I take great consideration into
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these things. And I do study the various arguments and
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kind of look at what it is other people have devoted,
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you know, decades to studying. In order to try and
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glean knowledge from it. You do with it as you wish.
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And I don't care if you want to believe the
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children's version of the Bible. That's up to you. And
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guess what? And here's the thing. Over the years, a
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lot of people call me satanic and this and that.
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I'm not satanic. I don't think so. I'm showing way
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too much respect to the book to be satanic. So
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good luck with that. And I'm here to tell you
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that even though I don't think there was a historical
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Christ figure, guess what? There's still truth written in that text,
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that combined bit of text that were chosen to be
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canonized as the book for you guys. I still say
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it carries the truth with it. It's not my truth necessarily,
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but it does carry the truth with it. And I
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leave it at that and have no disrespect for, you know,
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true believers who are not looking to injure people with
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it or beat them over the head with their book. Anyway, sorry,
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I didn't mean to do that. But religious discussion is
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always a problem for me because I'm apparently too open
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minded and usually no more than the people that want
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to scream at me. Danny, sorry about that. Please. I
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was rude to you there. I derailed you. Go ahead, sir.
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No, it's okay. I consider myself a true believer. I
486
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also categorize myself. That makes me a religious nut, too,
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which is fine.
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You and I have discussed, and just for the record, Danny,
489
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you and I have actually had a pretty intense discussion
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about what it is I really think of the Bible.
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I don't think that you could categorize anything I said
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as satanic.
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No, not at all.
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I think that's generally an overused blanket statement to kind
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of paint people into a corner, if that makes sense.
496
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Well, right. And that guy Bob Wilson, who used to
497
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have a podcast on here, freaked out and started calling
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me a Satanist and everything else because I objected to
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his religious hour on my network. I didn't stop him.
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I didn't not put out his podcast. I simply put
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a note saying, I don't share the views of the
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people on here. I'm producing the show, but I don't
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share their views and nor does my network. But here
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they are presented uncut because I respect people's right to speak.
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I found their rhetoric harmful. And that was my honest
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estimation of it. It doesn't mean I was judging Christianity
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as harmful. It meant that I was judging the fact
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that if you're going to say that if you don't
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believe exactly as we do, then you're part of the
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devil's plan. I find that mentality dangerous. I just do.
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Because everything outside of what you agree with is not
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necessarily the absolute adversary and looking to destroy you and
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everything good in the world. And that's what you're saying.
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So I'm going to at least make a notation that
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I object to that. And I think I have a
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right to do that, just like you have a right
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to speak about it. And Bob Wilson did not take
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it well.
519
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And quit.
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I'm a Satanist and this and that. Okay, but I'm
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tired of being called a Satanist when I make a comment.
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I have studied things. I could be wrong about stuff.
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That's possible. It doesn't mean I'm working for the adversary
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of humanity. Okay, I'm not on the side of your Satan.
525
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I don't even believe in your devil. Okay, you know
526
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what I'm saying? Your Satan to me is a fictional character.
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So if my perspective is wrong, it's wrong. But that's
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what I see it as. It's not even something I
529
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could embrace because it's like I'm going to now worship Superman. Who,
530
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by the way, is an interesting metaphor for the Christ narrative. Superman,
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believe it or not. But, you know, hey, all of it,
532
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even coming from another world, actually. You know, and practically
533
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being the child of godlike figures and all that. You know,
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but here on Earth, except in the story of Christ,
535
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he's born through a human woman. Uh, Superman gets dropped off.
536
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Other than that, there's a lot of parallels. Um, anyways,
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enough of that. And I'm not even saying that the
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people who wrote that comic book were trying to say
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Jesus or anything else. Uh, you know, it's not the, uh,
540
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what is that other thing with the lion and the, oh, Frank,
541
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what was that? It was real popular off and on.
542
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The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, or whatever.
543
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Oh, yeah, that was C.S. Lewis. Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe.
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Yeah, I was getting to Narnia.
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One of my favorite all-time books was Mere Christianity, which was...
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I enjoyed that book. He was a good writer.
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But the Narnia concept, you know, there's a Christ figure
548
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in there. And by the way, it's a story that's
549
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been told over and over again. and it goes through
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various vehicles and people that create fiction for the pure
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entertainment of others have utilized the same narrative in order
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to tell that story in a different way and again
553
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that's what you call art but whether you like it
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or not it's up to you right um but anyhow
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i'm sorry danny again i'm cutting you off but please
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talk about what.
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You want interesting because you know you you pointed out
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um using fiction as art or being able to tell
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a story i mean just look at Some of the
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motion pictures, the day the earth stood still was kind
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of metaphor for Christ.
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And then even look at the Terminator.
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The main character was about the birth of John Carpenter, J.C.
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There was a lot of symbolism used through art, trying
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to tell a story.
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Well, even if you look at the Matrix, you know,
567
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and Neo, OK, he's new, but he's also Tom Anderson.
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And if you look at the root, you know, the
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roots of those two names, Tom and Anderson, guess what?
570
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You put it all together. You're talking about the son
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of man. And he is a savior. Yeah, he's a
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savior figure in the Matrix. OK, he's a unique character
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who ends up with, you know, unique abilities because he
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is uniquely placed in the world. And he is a
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product of something unique and he only comes up every
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so often, which, by the way, if you look at
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the Bible, more than one savior figure arrives. You know,
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Christ basically says, hey, look, I'm the last one and
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you've got to follow me now. Forget about the old laws.
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I am.
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The law and I am the, you know, the new covenant. But,
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you know, again, that's kind of what happens in the
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movie The Matrix, the series even in a different way, obviously.
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But I'm just saying this is a narrative that has
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been– oh, yeah. Well, there's the three movies originally. Then
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there's this fourth new movie. There's also what they call
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the Animatrix, which fills in some other gaps. And when
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you read the– Wait a minute.
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Yeah. What were the three Matrix movies?
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Well, the first one was just called The Matrix. The
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second one was called The Matrix Reloaded. The third one
592
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was called The Matrix– Dear God, what was the third? Daniel,
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there's a third one.
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I had no idea. Really, seriously, I had no idea
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there were three of them.
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Yeah, the three movies came out. Yeah, it's a trilogy.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah, I only watched the first one. That was a
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long time ago, and I must have been tired. I
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hardly can remember it.
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Yeah, but I assure you, the second one, Revolution. Okay, okay,
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that's what it is. I'm bringing it up in my
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brain now. It's The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolution. Okay.
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And then, uh, the recent movie only from a couple
605
00:30:47.970 --> 00:30:51.680
of years ago was the matrix resurrection, by the way. Um,
606
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but in between there was also something called the animatrix,
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which is an animated series and tells a whole bunch
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of side stories about, you know, different things that go on. And, um, yeah.
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And there's even a continuation cat to the canon of
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the story in a few other, uh, media forms. But
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if you watch those three movies, uh, And the most
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recent one, you get the gist of the entire narrative.
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And in the end, Neo basically comes back from the
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dead and saves humanity, you know, by taking it upon
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himself to sacrifice himself for a second time. And he's
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paying for all of our sins of not paying attention
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and simply being plugged into this matrix and being pacified
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and not doing the right thing. So if you look
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at it, Neo is a Christ figure. Um, again, you know,
620
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some hardcore Christians would get upset at that, but it
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is what it is. Uh, you know, what do you
622
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want me to tell you? Uh, and Tom Anderson, again,
623
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if you look at the roots, uh, the, the, the actual,
624
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you know, origins of those names, you have the son
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of man there. Okay. Anderson. All right. Son is literally son. Ander.
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If you look at where that comes from. Yeah, that's
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a man. Um, All right. And Thomas as well, you know,
628
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and also Neo. So he is the new son of man,
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literally named that way in code by the writers. So,
630
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you know, use your heads. It's right there. But a
631
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lot of people don't realize that it's also a cool movie.
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I mean, you know, it's fun and everything. I mean,
633
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you can watch it a bunch of different ways, which, again,
634
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is my point about your Bible. You can read it
635
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a bunch of different ways and get different things out
636
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of it. If you read at surface level and you
637
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listen to the instruction from the pulpit, that's one thing.
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And I'm not necessarily against any of that. Matter of fact,
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I partake in some of that, where if somebody is
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a Christian and requires a minister, which is someone to
641
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serve them, that's where that word comes from, to minister,
642
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is to be a servant for someone. They require a minister.
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I go to where their spiritual base is. which I
644
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know you had a hard time with that BP when
645
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I brought it up, but this is me trying to
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serve other people's spiritual needs, not my own. And I've
647
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done that through grief counseling, through, you know, various other
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types of counseling or assistance when I'm called upon. And
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I'm quite content with that role. And I will go
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to their belief system as best I know it. And
651
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if I don't know it, I'll refer them to somebody
652
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who does. But generally I've tried to study all these
653
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things pretty extensively and So that I have flexibility in
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how it is I can serve someone as a minister.
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And if that's a problem, I'm sorry. But I got
656
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to tell you that the people that I've served don't complain.
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And the people that I've even helped with medical things
658
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when I've stitched them up or done anything else that
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they needed emergency wise. You know what? I've saved lives, too.
660
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I don't talk about it. But I've done that. And again,
661
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these are people that would not complain despite the fact
662
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that I'm blind as hell and only had the tools
663
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I had and, you know, did it on the quick
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because they were in an emergency circumstance. And so were
665
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these people that were bleeding spiritually, I assure you. So, look,
666
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if you got a problem with me trying to serve others,
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even people I don't know, I don't know what to
668
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tell you. But that is something I do in my
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personal life and it's got nothing to do with this podcast.
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But I'm just pointing out. That's why I study these
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things in the way I do, because I want to know.
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I want the knowledge. I would prefer to have the gnosis,
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if you will. And I don't discount the Gnostic Gospels either,
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which is a whole other thing about the books that
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were not canonized but existed. You know, same kind of
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time frame, same kind of they could have been just
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as legitimate as anything that was added to the multiple
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books of the Bible. Anyway, sorry, Danny, once again. You know,
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I'm not a Satanist, but go ahead, Danny. What's on
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your mind this week?
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No, no, no, no, no. I can jump on that.
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I had some thoughts come in. First, I was going
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to talk about 9-11, but I think it's a little bit,
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I want to go a little lighter. If that makes sense.
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You can. You know, if you're avoiding that because of me, don't.
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It's here anyway. So you're not going to cause any
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problems if that's for me. Go ahead.
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I'll throw it out there, but I got several subjects
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I can talk about.
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Sure.
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One thing I wanted to follow up is, like, you know,
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I really listened to Larry Hancock. And, you know, we
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do 9-11, and then we kind of forget, you know,
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the aftermath, you know, why it happened and what happened
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in the aftermath. And I think Larry made a very
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valuable point, because if I'm really thinking about it, is
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that there was a lot of intelligence that was telling us,
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warning us that there was going to be a possible attack.
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Right.
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And even like I read the 9-11 report, I mean,
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one of the things is I thought it was really sanitized.
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It was basically and I'm not going to, you know.
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I mean, it's easy to point at one part and
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be partisan, but really it was about protecting the Clinton
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and the Bush administration from their failures. Then the failures
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of the CIA, they had, thanks to the Malaysian intelligence,
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there was two.
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Of the hijackers. They came into L.A.
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The CIA knew who they were and knew they were
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affiliated with Al-Qaeda. And they failed to contact the FBI.
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And the FBI had had some odd people going to
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these flight schools, learn how to fly, but really didn't
713
00:36:20.110 --> 00:36:22.369
seem like they wanted an interest in land on a plane.
714
00:36:23.309 --> 00:36:23.889
So there was a.
715
00:36:23.909 --> 00:36:25.170
Failure of intelligence.
716
00:36:25.210 --> 00:36:27.210
And then the aftermath is we ended up going to
717
00:36:27.269 --> 00:36:31.489
all these wars costing trillions of dollars and millions of millions,
718
00:36:31.510 --> 00:36:35.079
you know, possibly a million life and tens, maybe 10
719
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:40.239
or more million people displaced American soldiers lost. And I
720
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.289
was just watching a, an article uh a show of
721
00:36:43.409 --> 00:36:46.710
anti-bordain and they were talking about cologne germany the you
722
00:36:46.730 --> 00:36:49.269
know the in you know this was 10 you know
723
00:36:49.269 --> 00:36:53.849
10 15 years ago the influx of refugees and the
724
00:36:53.889 --> 00:36:57.329
problems it was creating which is what we have here
725
00:36:57.389 --> 00:37:01.949
in our commercials illegal immigrants but you know what causes
726
00:37:01.989 --> 00:37:04.829
these immigrants what causes these people to flee their countries
727
00:37:05.230 --> 00:37:08.590
yeah and It was a failed intelligence. It was a
728
00:37:08.710 --> 00:37:10.769
failed idea that we had to go to war and
729
00:37:10.789 --> 00:37:13.550
have an enemy and a boogie man. We bombed in
730
00:37:14.030 --> 00:37:18.320
several countries. And Larry Hancock was pointing that we may
731
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:23.179
be at the verge of having something else because we're
732
00:37:23.219 --> 00:37:24.920
so focused on other.
733
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:26.960
Issues.
734
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:31.199
We're starting a war in Iran. I brought it up that, hey,
735
00:37:31.219 --> 00:37:35.079
we're running out of the intercept missiles. We've had bases bombed.
736
00:37:35.789 --> 00:37:37.960
We're at a weakened state. We need to just be
737
00:37:38.099 --> 00:37:43.579
honest with ourselves. And then Larry talked about, well, they're focusing.
738
00:37:43.139 --> 00:37:47.510
On voter fraud. And I found.
739
00:37:47.389 --> 00:37:50.449
A YouTube, I just stumbled across it. It was the
740
00:37:50.469 --> 00:37:54.650
Attorney General of Michigan, and they're going with the... You know,
741
00:37:54.909 --> 00:37:57.650
how is the if they change the election rules, how
742
00:37:57.670 --> 00:37:58.969
is the post office.
743
00:37:58.730 --> 00:38:02.409
Going to comply with this? And guess what? And then
744
00:38:02.469 --> 00:38:05.659
now we have this. How many how many people have
745
00:38:05.860 --> 00:38:10.900
resigned from the army, the armed services, the Pentagon? And
746
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:12.039
we got a lot of chaos there.
747
00:38:12.059 --> 00:38:13.400
Well, you know, it's important.
748
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.239
Danny, here's the thing.
749
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:16.539
We're setting ourselves up. Yeah.
750
00:38:16.619 --> 00:38:19.280
Here's the thing I kept trying to bring up with Larry.
751
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.750
And I think he addressed it. Is, you know, look,
752
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:24.840
whatever you believe.
753
00:38:25.179 --> 00:38:25.440
Right.
754
00:38:25.579 --> 00:38:27.739
And even this voter fraud thing that he said, I
755
00:38:27.780 --> 00:38:29.780
kind of pushed back a little. And I said, look, Larry,
756
00:38:29.820 --> 00:38:33.380
that's what they're showing us in public. You know, there
757
00:38:33.500 --> 00:38:36.760
is what goes on that we are not being made
758
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:40.010
aware of. And that happened with 9-11 as well. You know,
759
00:38:40.030 --> 00:38:43.230
a lot of people look back on it and they posthumously,
760
00:38:43.250 --> 00:38:46.559
you know, long after the event happened. Say, oh, we
761
00:38:46.579 --> 00:38:48.400
should have been aware of this and that. But they
762
00:38:48.460 --> 00:38:51.239
are not really truly read in on what was publicly known,
763
00:38:51.300 --> 00:38:52.619
what was known in different levels.
764
00:38:53.820 --> 00:38:54.039
Right.
765
00:38:54.179 --> 00:38:58.579
And this is the thing that has been revealed over time. where, look,
766
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.360
you can believe 100% of the official narrative and still
767
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.639
have a lot of questions. I mean, I even had
768
00:39:04.659 --> 00:39:07.130
the guys on this show, you know, I don't know
769
00:39:07.190 --> 00:39:09.789
that Michael, I can't remember his name now, but he
770
00:39:09.829 --> 00:39:12.550
got mad at me and actually demanded to be heard
771
00:39:12.610 --> 00:39:14.829
on my show because he was one of the guys
772
00:39:14.849 --> 00:39:17.380
who worked at one of the consulates where they issued
773
00:39:17.409 --> 00:39:22.239
passports and, you know, they issued passports, visas and stuff
774
00:39:22.260 --> 00:39:25.030
like this for some of these guys. And he saw
775
00:39:25.070 --> 00:39:28.340
these names you know, like a year before the events
776
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:32.420
of September 11 come across his desk. And he's not
777
00:39:32.460 --> 00:39:35.260
the only one. And, you know, and they were like, hey,
778
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:37.739
red flag. And they felt like they were being ignored.
779
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.699
And afterwards, you know, here it is. You ignored me.
780
00:39:40.820 --> 00:39:43.619
I tried to tell you something's up with this. And
781
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.500
there was a bunch of people like that. So, you know,
782
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.139
is it a failure of intelligence or was it a choice?
783
00:39:49.579 --> 00:39:53.340
You know, it's difficult to say because when you, you know,
784
00:39:53.380 --> 00:39:56.260
finally weave through everything, it goes well beyond the president's
785
00:39:56.300 --> 00:40:00.320
daily briefing said this, you know, just before that's a
786
00:40:00.389 --> 00:40:04.559
famous event because Michael Moore showed that. Um, and we
787
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:08.980
know the president's daily briefing features a lot of potential, uh,
788
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.550
situations that never come to fruition. And I even brought
789
00:40:12.610 --> 00:40:14.449
up sometimes, you know, it is true. It's because these
790
00:40:14.489 --> 00:40:16.690
guys did a good job and prevented it. Other times
791
00:40:16.750 --> 00:40:20.150
it's because they didn't have the best intelligence. Uh, and
792
00:40:20.210 --> 00:40:23.110
it's a mixed bag. It's not all one thing. And
793
00:40:23.139 --> 00:40:25.179
that's what I was having Larry tackle. And that's why
794
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.320
he kept going. Okay. Again, I'm going to say, yeah,
795
00:40:27.340 --> 00:40:30.420
I don't know if you noticed that, but he was like, again,
796
00:40:30.500 --> 00:40:33.599
let me bring you back to, uh, This because you're
797
00:40:33.619 --> 00:40:36.579
kind of off-roading and I'm like, yeah, but all right.
798
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:38.860
And that's the thing. That's what's great about Larry is
799
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:42.559
he's very sober, very considerate of, you know, what is
800
00:40:42.659 --> 00:40:47.039
publicly known, what is open source and what he can
801
00:40:47.099 --> 00:40:50.179
interpret from it. And quite frankly, we may have a
802
00:40:50.219 --> 00:40:53.559
discussion that is going to continue that 9-11 discussion about
803
00:40:53.659 --> 00:40:57.579
what is the potential for a next, you know, event.
804
00:40:58.900 --> 00:41:01.079
at this point in time and are we ignoring it
805
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:03.909
are we handling it well uh you know i'm not
806
00:41:03.949 --> 00:41:05.719
trying to pass a judgment on it i'm just trying
807
00:41:05.750 --> 00:41:09.030
to ask the question are we prepared for another major
808
00:41:09.489 --> 00:41:12.889
uh you know effort against us are we prepared for
809
00:41:12.929 --> 00:41:15.730
it is the question uh and i think it's a
810
00:41:15.789 --> 00:41:18.429
fair one that anybody who is here in this country
811
00:41:18.469 --> 00:41:21.969
should be asking uh because we definitely don't need another
812
00:41:22.010 --> 00:41:25.329
trauma-based uh you know mass situation that affects the entire
813
00:41:25.389 --> 00:41:27.650
country i would say that that was definitely not a
814
00:41:27.690 --> 00:41:31.489
positive um you know regardless of who made a fortune
815
00:41:31.570 --> 00:41:33.269
on it and uh you know and who made a
816
00:41:33.329 --> 00:41:36.769
political capital on it uh it is not a good
817
00:41:36.809 --> 00:41:39.670
thing to allow something like that to happen on american
818
00:41:39.730 --> 00:41:43.070
soil and we're supposed to be better than this so
819
00:41:43.570 --> 00:41:46.050
let's be better than this and ask the question and
820
00:41:46.090 --> 00:41:48.739
push the people that are supposedly there to serve us
821
00:41:49.820 --> 00:41:52.280
uh to make sure they're doing their jobs whether they
822
00:41:52.380 --> 00:41:54.179
are or not is irrelevant make sure they're doing it
823
00:41:54.260 --> 00:41:58.039
anyway You know, because anybody would say somebody didn't do
824
00:41:58.059 --> 00:42:00.460
their job. And I brought up nobody really got fired
825
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:06.429
post 9-11, you know, regarding the drop ball, regarding the mistakes,
826
00:42:06.489 --> 00:42:09.570
the failure of intelligence. And the failure of imagination was
827
00:42:09.590 --> 00:42:12.590
a phrase I kept using because I kept hearing it
828
00:42:12.690 --> 00:42:14.800
in the clips when I would go back over this stuff.
829
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:18.119
It was a failure. Nobody imagined this. It was a
830
00:42:18.179 --> 00:42:20.099
failure of, you know, it was a failure of intelligence,
831
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.980
but nobody imagined this. And then some people literally said
832
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:26.559
a failure of imagination. Go find it. It's there, and
833
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.059
that's what I'm saying. So you couldn't imagine it? I
834
00:42:29.260 --> 00:42:33.130
also call BS on that because we have teams of
835
00:42:33.150 --> 00:42:38.690
people dedicated to, at the Pentagon and other agencies, dedicated to,
836
00:42:38.730 --> 00:42:42.670
guess what, gaming out scenarios. That's their job, day in
837
00:42:42.730 --> 00:42:45.909
and day out. So you can't tell me that there's
838
00:42:45.929 --> 00:42:48.190
a failure of imagination when you've got entire teams of
839
00:42:48.250 --> 00:42:50.590
people unless you're telling me we don't have good people
840
00:42:50.699 --> 00:42:57.030
on those teams. And I refuse to accept that. I've
841
00:42:57.090 --> 00:42:59.239
listened to and I've seen and caught wind of just
842
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.219
a few things that are get gamed out. Like I said,
843
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.480
one of the most ridiculous is what if Canada invades
844
00:43:03.539 --> 00:43:06.960
us tomorrow? That's a scenario played out with these Pentagon
845
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.980
tabletop people all the time. It doesn't matter if it's,
846
00:43:11.099 --> 00:43:16.000
you know, a very small, you know, possibility. They're playing
847
00:43:16.059 --> 00:43:19.619
out these scenarios constantly so that they have contingencies to
848
00:43:19.659 --> 00:43:23.860
guess what? Hand to the people in charge. In the
849
00:43:24.059 --> 00:43:27.940
case that something out of the ordinary and truly blindsiding
850
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:31.739
our entire nation happens, they have scenarios ready to hand
851
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.420
to the president. Maybe not on paper anymore, but it
852
00:43:34.500 --> 00:43:36.980
used to be volumes and volumes of paper that somebody
853
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.699
could pull out and say, OK, since this happened, I have,
854
00:43:40.780 --> 00:43:43.719
you know, this many choices immediately to go with to
855
00:43:43.739 --> 00:43:48.960
get things rolling now, Mr. President. And that's a real thing.
856
00:43:49.969 --> 00:43:52.730
So I don't buy the failure of intelligence and I
857
00:43:52.769 --> 00:43:55.619
don't buy the failure of imagination because it seems to
858
00:43:55.659 --> 00:43:58.860
me as though we have systems in place that by
859
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.000
default must behave in a way that has imagination and
860
00:44:02.059 --> 00:44:05.119
has some intelligence, even if the intelligence is wrong. But
861
00:44:05.139 --> 00:44:07.820
that was my pushback and Larry kept correcting it. I
862
00:44:07.860 --> 00:44:11.409
think that is a very good discussion back and forth
863
00:44:11.469 --> 00:44:13.909
and kind of a very lightweight debate between me and
864
00:44:13.929 --> 00:44:17.750
Larry because, you know, he's even more secure in what
865
00:44:17.789 --> 00:44:21.269
he thinks the system can do than I am. And, again,
866
00:44:21.329 --> 00:44:23.989
he's the more sober guy. He's a historian. He considers
867
00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:26.460
things quite well, and he's written extensively on the behavior
868
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.980
of the national security state in these instances. So I
869
00:44:30.019 --> 00:44:31.940
thought it was a valuable discussion to go for for
870
00:44:31.980 --> 00:44:34.699
an hour. Anyways, Danny, yeah, go ahead. Anything else you
871
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:35.280
want to talk about?
872
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.659
Okay, I got three more things. I got something kind
873
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:42.820
of serious here. We're going to get Mike Swanson on.
874
00:44:43.050 --> 00:44:45.510
Have him talk and explain about what's going on in
875
00:44:45.530 --> 00:44:46.849
the bond market right now.
876
00:44:47.389 --> 00:44:47.489
Hmm.
877
00:44:48.980 --> 00:44:51.780
Well, OK, he would probably he could probably give a
878
00:44:51.820 --> 00:44:54.190
lot of insight on the bond market.
879
00:44:54.449 --> 00:44:57.650
Do me a favor. Do me a little favor. Write
880
00:44:57.750 --> 00:45:01.389
an email giving me your very precise questions about this,
881
00:45:01.469 --> 00:45:04.550
because I don't want to ask an open general question
882
00:45:04.570 --> 00:45:08.210
that goes nowhere. And I'm not equipped to ask the
883
00:45:08.250 --> 00:45:11.110
precision question here. So I would prefer that you gave
884
00:45:11.150 --> 00:45:14.110
him to me because we're supposed to talk on Monday
885
00:45:14.179 --> 00:45:16.500
about when he's going to come on and soon.
886
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.559
OK, I'll think of I'll think of something that halfway
887
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.139
will make sense to maybe ask.
888
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:26.159
And if it doesn't make sense, don't ask him. But
889
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:28.679
I'm just I'm just kind of no thoughts on it.
890
00:45:28.739 --> 00:45:31.179
No worries. Give me a list and I'll try and,
891
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.179
you know, you know, cherry pick from that list as
892
00:45:34.219 --> 00:45:36.719
best I can. You know, because I try to make
893
00:45:36.739 --> 00:45:39.730
the conversation flow. So I'm not going to go Q
894
00:45:39.730 --> 00:45:42.329
& A with him. But I will, you know, I
895
00:45:42.369 --> 00:45:45.610
will weave as many of your questions in as I can. Please,
896
00:45:45.650 --> 00:45:47.710
by all means, help me interview Mike Swanson. Yeah.
897
00:45:49.090 --> 00:45:49.409
OK.
898
00:45:49.510 --> 00:45:52.769
And then then to kind of piggyback with the 9-11
899
00:45:52.829 --> 00:45:58.090
and the intelligent, the failure of imagination and kind of Larry's.
900
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.820
did you see a cash Patel get interviewed about the
901
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:06.050
changes in the FBI? And they're talking about bestiality with
902
00:46:06.329 --> 00:46:07.090
that guy from, I.
903
00:46:08.090 --> 00:46:10.050
Mean, no, I didn't.
904
00:46:10.130 --> 00:46:14.400
What's the guy Kennedy from Louisiana said, talking about bestiality.
905
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:19.219
I mean, that was, You mean, you mean John Kennedy,
906
00:46:19.489 --> 00:46:21.719
John Kennedy, the third. Okay.
907
00:46:21.780 --> 00:46:23.929
Funny, but sad in many ways.
908
00:46:24.429 --> 00:46:26.809
Uh, well, you know, look, I, I didn't see that,
909
00:46:27.010 --> 00:46:29.909
but you just, I just figured John Kennedy, the third,
910
00:46:29.949 --> 00:46:32.429
that's who you're talking about. Cause that's the only.
911
00:46:35.949 --> 00:46:40.349
I mean, I'm telling you what, a few drinks and
912
00:46:40.389 --> 00:46:42.210
I can watch that. I'm going to have some laughs.
913
00:46:43.230 --> 00:46:47.019
Send me a link. Uh, I want to see it. Um, Please.
914
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:50.389
He's questioning Cash Patel. It was about, you know, whether
915
00:46:50.469 --> 00:46:51.670
the dogs.
916
00:46:52.389 --> 00:46:52.590
You.
917
00:46:52.510 --> 00:46:55.130
Know, I've tried to watch some of these Cash Patel, like,
918
00:46:55.150 --> 00:46:56.489
you know, answering questions.
919
00:46:56.610 --> 00:46:57.409
Oh, God!
920
00:46:57.989 --> 00:47:00.050
I can't believe this is what we're talking.
921
00:47:00.070 --> 00:47:03.170
I guess they said now they're not going to disqualify somebody,
922
00:47:03.829 --> 00:47:09.019
you know, an FBI agent if they were involved in bestiality,
923
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:10.079
and I guess, you know.
924
00:47:10.099 --> 00:47:11.539
Okay, so the take.
925
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:16.239
I mean, it's kind of like... I mean, okay, they
926
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:17.039
lifted her off.
927
00:47:17.139 --> 00:47:21.260
I mean, I'm just like, we're going to get attacked
928
00:47:21.340 --> 00:47:25.019
if this is what we're going to be focusing on.
929
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.340
I mean, I could do the whole political, like.
930
00:47:28.110 --> 00:47:32.170
They're advocating for bestiality, but if we're getting bogged down.
931
00:47:32.010 --> 00:47:34.449
In this, we're going to get attacked.
932
00:47:34.829 --> 00:47:37.130
Danny, let me just make sure I understand you properly,
933
00:47:37.150 --> 00:47:40.050
because I have watched parts of these Cash Patel interviews
934
00:47:40.110 --> 00:47:43.989
or Cash Patel being questioned by Oversight. What you're telling
935
00:47:44.030 --> 00:47:47.349
me is John Kennedy is asking Kash Patel about bestiality.
936
00:47:47.469 --> 00:47:50.650
And the takeaway there is we're not disqualifying FBI agents
937
00:47:51.170 --> 00:47:53.659
if they have bestiality somewhere in their record. Is that
938
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.500
what's being discussed in oversight committee?
939
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:58.420
That's what was being discussed, yes.
940
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:00.579
Okay, I just want to make sure I understood, because
941
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.159
I haven't seen it, but by all means, send me
942
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:03.440
a link.
943
00:48:03.460 --> 00:48:10.010
If I can find something, it's hilarious.
944
00:48:10.090 --> 00:48:12.570
You know, and then everybody wonders why I say don't
945
00:48:12.610 --> 00:48:16.349
take the clowns seriously, but okay, you know, look, maybe
946
00:48:16.369 --> 00:48:18.110
there's a good reason for that, and I missed it.
947
00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:18.989
I'd like to see it.
948
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:20.800
I'm not advocating it either.
949
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:22.059
I'm not advocating it either.
950
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.500
I personally I would think that, you know, being involved
951
00:48:25.539 --> 00:48:28.239
in bestiality, if there's some sort of provable allegation there,
952
00:48:28.380 --> 00:48:31.460
I would say I would not want them working for
953
00:48:31.500 --> 00:48:34.079
the FBI and making any sort of judgment calls because
954
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.559
that represents some poor judgment to me. You're, you know,
955
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.840
having relations with animal species other than human. But that's,
956
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.179
you know, my opinion. You know, I could be wrong.
957
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:48.099
I don't know. But I'm just saying that would be
958
00:48:48.139 --> 00:48:49.199
my judgment. Yeah.
959
00:48:52.179 --> 00:48:54.739
It was surprising.
960
00:48:55.219 --> 00:49:00.340
Yeah, I am surprised. Give me that. Go ahead. Please
961
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:03.010
send me a link. I might even play it on
962
00:49:03.030 --> 00:49:05.550
the show. Look, Jimmy James is on the line, so
963
00:49:05.570 --> 00:49:06.730
I want to get to him, and he's been there
964
00:49:06.750 --> 00:49:07.309
a couple minutes.
965
00:49:07.329 --> 00:49:10.070
Maybe Jimmy James has got something about the FBI lifting
966
00:49:10.090 --> 00:49:11.949
the sanctions on this bestiality.
967
00:49:12.150 --> 00:49:15.210
Okay, and Cash Patel is saying.
968
00:49:15.269 --> 00:49:15.960
I'm not for it.
969
00:49:15.989 --> 00:49:18.610
I grew up in a farming community.
970
00:49:19.289 --> 00:49:23.929
I wasn't into any bestiality or anything, but I just.
971
00:49:25.219 --> 00:49:27.760
It was something else.
972
00:49:28.699 --> 00:49:32.980
Exactly. Regardless of what men have done over the centuries
973
00:49:33.019 --> 00:49:35.320
with sheep and everything, I don't see how it is
974
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.050
you can get consent. So You know, I mean, maybe
975
00:49:39.090 --> 00:49:40.909
there are some people, you know, I don't want to
976
00:49:40.949 --> 00:49:43.190
go into this. Let's just go to Jimmy James.
977
00:49:44.670 --> 00:49:45.030
Jimmy.
978
00:49:46.809 --> 00:49:47.110
Jimmy.
979
00:49:47.269 --> 00:49:50.190
OK, I don't know what to say about bestiality being
980
00:49:50.510 --> 00:49:53.809
discussed during oversight committee hearings. I haven't seen it myself.
981
00:49:53.869 --> 00:49:56.349
Maybe you have. If not, you can skip that subject
982
00:49:56.409 --> 00:49:58.409
entirely and go on to whatever is on your mind.
983
00:49:58.769 --> 00:49:59.670
Floor is yours, sir.
984
00:50:03.210 --> 00:50:03.429
Jimmy.
985
00:50:05.860 --> 00:50:08.239
Okay, I swear I have Jimmy's line open, but I'm
986
00:50:08.260 --> 00:50:11.849
not getting any noise. He might have himself muted, or
987
00:50:11.889 --> 00:50:14.650
there could be a problem. I called him recently, and
988
00:50:14.670 --> 00:50:17.130
there was... Oh, there you are. I called you recently
989
00:50:17.289 --> 00:50:18.949
off air, and there was a problem with your phone,
990
00:50:18.969 --> 00:50:21.289
so I thought maybe that happened again, but there you are, sir.
991
00:50:21.349 --> 00:50:22.050
The floor is yours.
992
00:50:22.090 --> 00:50:27.429
Go ahead. All right.
993
00:50:28.460 --> 00:50:28.780
Thanks.
994
00:50:30.099 --> 00:50:34.000
Chuck, I've got an important thing to tell you. Hold on,
995
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:34.920
you old devils.
996
00:50:36.210 --> 00:50:36.829
All right, I'm listening.
997
00:50:41.909 --> 00:50:46.239
So I went to the scrapyard. I was trying to
998
00:50:46.300 --> 00:50:50.079
get to it, but I seen an F-16 fall out
999
00:50:50.099 --> 00:50:51.539
of the sky and crash.
1000
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:53.159
Wow.
1001
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:55.539
In a scrapyard?
1002
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:56.599
That's the story.
1003
00:50:57.059 --> 00:50:57.980
In a scrapyard?
1004
00:50:59.820 --> 00:51:01.360
Nah, near it, though.
1005
00:51:01.619 --> 00:51:01.920
Near it?
1006
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:03.500
I couldn't get to the damn thing.
1007
00:51:04.219 --> 00:51:04.559
Wow.
1008
00:51:06.050 --> 00:51:09.969
And obviously near to you, you weren't like away somewhere else.
1009
00:51:10.030 --> 00:51:12.739
It was in Michigan, right? So somewhere near you, this
1010
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:14.619
F-16 fell to the ground?
1011
00:51:15.219 --> 00:51:19.719
Well, it was in Michigan. It wasn't particularly near me.
1012
00:51:20.260 --> 00:51:22.619
Okay, okay, no problem. Let's be accurate.
1013
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:23.380
The dude bailed.
1014
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:24.960
The dude bailed.
1015
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.079
So you saw, did you see a pilot eject, and
1016
00:51:29.260 --> 00:51:31.679
did you see the plane hit the ground? Like, you're
1017
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:36.530
sure it definitely came to a stop, you know, radically
1018
00:51:36.590 --> 00:51:41.070
hitting the ground, yeah?
1019
00:51:42.030 --> 00:51:44.460
Oh, it hit the ground. It was a big fireball.
1020
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:45.329
Wow. Wow.
1021
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:50.539
BP, can you do a quick news search and see
1022
00:51:50.579 --> 00:51:54.239
if there's any news on an F-16 hitting the ground
1023
00:51:54.380 --> 00:51:58.480
in Michigan somewhere during an exercise or something? Because, I mean,
1024
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:00.280
I'd like to know if the news even bothered to
1025
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.010
mention it. Because that's pretty wild. I mean, do you
1026
00:52:04.050 --> 00:52:06.989
know whereabouts did it crash in a place where people live?
1027
00:52:07.070 --> 00:52:09.030
Or was it like woods? Or do you know what
1028
00:52:09.150 --> 00:52:14.050
kind of area it came to a radical stop in? Yeah.
1029
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:15.780
September 17th.
1030
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:18.059
September 17th? It happened?
1031
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:23.679
Yeah. An F-16 crash in rural Michigan on September 17th
1032
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:27.110
led to a shelter-in-place order and then an evacuation within
1033
00:52:27.219 --> 00:52:30.630
one mile because of a hazardous chemical spill. The pilot
1034
00:52:30.690 --> 00:52:33.929
ejected safely and was taken to a local hospital for treatment.
1035
00:52:33.949 --> 00:52:34.929
It's on NBC News.
1036
00:52:35.070 --> 00:52:38.369
So you saw this yesterday with your own eyes, Jimmy,
1037
00:52:38.769 --> 00:52:40.340
and the news reported on it.
1038
00:52:40.409 --> 00:52:40.710
Wow.
1039
00:52:40.889 --> 00:52:44.510
Okay. I was not aware of this. Do we know
1040
00:52:44.570 --> 00:52:47.610
why the pilot ejected or anything else?
1041
00:52:48.530 --> 00:52:50.269
I'm going to put a link to the story.
1042
00:52:50.710 --> 00:52:56.789
There was a mishap in quotation marks.
1043
00:52:58.110 --> 00:53:00.909
Well, okay, that covers a lot of ground in military speak,
1044
00:53:00.929 --> 00:53:02.590
doesn't it, guys? I mean, you know, I'm not a
1045
00:53:02.610 --> 00:53:06.530
military guy, Danny, former military, Jimmy James, and BP, but
1046
00:53:06.670 --> 00:53:09.010
in military speak, that can cover a lot of different things.
1047
00:53:09.070 --> 00:53:09.849
Am I right about that?
1048
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:14.719
I should say so.
1049
00:53:16.409 --> 00:53:19.110
The concept, Jimmy James said, you know, it was a mishap.
1050
00:53:19.489 --> 00:53:22.389
And OK, mishap is one of those words that's used
1051
00:53:22.489 --> 00:53:27.059
usually to like leave it open to interpretation with the military. Uh, where,
1052
00:53:27.099 --> 00:53:29.800
you know, during a, was it during a training exercise?
1053
00:53:29.820 --> 00:53:31.719
Do we know any of those other details according to
1054
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:33.780
the news BP? Yeah.
1055
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:36.440
Okay.
1056
00:53:36.460 --> 00:53:43.869
It was a damn hillbilly Texas hill country.
1057
00:53:44.130 --> 00:53:44.530
Oh, okay.
1058
00:53:44.650 --> 00:53:47.329
Well, so like, all right.
1059
00:53:48.369 --> 00:53:52.289
Somebody near the LBJ ranch was a pilot in that plane.
1060
00:53:52.550 --> 00:53:54.010
And, uh, it, yeah.
1061
00:53:54.030 --> 00:53:58.760
Okay. I put a link. to the NBC News article
1062
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:02.079
that's got a video in the chat room. If you
1063
00:54:02.099 --> 00:54:03.510
want to go to the chat room, pull it up,
1064
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:04.070
you can play it.
1065
00:54:04.380 --> 00:54:07.170
Right. Anybody listening live or listening later, you can roll
1066
00:54:07.210 --> 00:54:09.309
back the chat and take a look. Pete put a
1067
00:54:09.349 --> 00:54:12.590
link in the chat room, ocelli.com. If you go to
1068
00:54:12.690 --> 00:54:15.050
listen live and chat, there's a link there to a
1069
00:54:15.070 --> 00:54:18.590
chat tango room you can join anytime. It's open to
1070
00:54:18.610 --> 00:54:21.730
the public, so that link is there now. Sorry, go ahead, though.
1071
00:54:21.750 --> 00:54:24.750
That's pretty wild, Jimmy. What else did you observe yourself
1072
00:54:25.030 --> 00:54:26.949
from this situation?
1073
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:34.480
I observed that I wasted a lot of $ 5 a
1074
00:54:34.539 --> 00:54:38.199
gallon gas to get to somewhere that I could not
1075
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:42.670
get to because of that stupid hillbilly couldn't fly his plane.
1076
00:54:42.989 --> 00:54:46.860
Okay. I'm not going to argue with you. What can
1077
00:54:46.900 --> 00:54:49.820
I say? Nothing wrong about any of the statement Jimmy
1078
00:54:49.860 --> 00:54:52.960
just made. First of all, the gas being expensive, and
1079
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:55.400
then he couldn't get to it. What were you going
1080
00:54:55.420 --> 00:54:56.900
to do if you could get to it, though, Jimmy,
1081
00:54:56.940 --> 00:54:58.159
just out of curiosity?
1082
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:03.900
I didn't want to get to that stupid plane. I
1083
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:05.500
was trying to get to the junkyard.
1084
00:55:06.739 --> 00:55:09.860
Oh, okay. So you couldn't get to the junkyard because
1085
00:55:09.909 --> 00:55:11.469
of the plane crash? Is that what you're saying?
1086
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:17.280
Yeah, everything's sealed off. State troops are here.
1087
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:20.889
Yeah, well, BP said in the initial, what do you
1088
00:55:20.909 --> 00:55:22.909
call it, paragraph of the story there that they had,
1089
00:55:23.250 --> 00:55:26.309
you know, kind of closed off the area. So you
1090
00:55:26.349 --> 00:55:28.190
got caught in that, in that you couldn't get to
1091
00:55:28.250 --> 00:55:30.949
where you were trying to go because of the damn,
1092
00:55:31.030 --> 00:55:33.650
you know, sealing off the area because chemical spill and
1093
00:55:33.690 --> 00:55:38.150
also hazardous area due to the fact that the plane crashed. Okay,
1094
00:55:38.230 --> 00:55:39.730
I'm now following you. Okay.
1095
00:55:40.329 --> 00:55:40.630
Yeah.
1096
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:46.219
Major Kong there couldn't crash, I don't know, 50 miles
1097
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:48.039
the other way. What a jerk.
1098
00:55:49.059 --> 00:55:52.210
Well, you know, some people, Jimmy, are just not going
1099
00:55:52.230 --> 00:55:54.610
to be considerate of your time and your gas. I mean,
1100
00:55:54.650 --> 00:55:59.130
what can I do? It just, it is what it is. Anyway,
1101
00:55:59.309 --> 00:56:00.050
that's fascinating.
1102
00:56:00.070 --> 00:56:03.320
I got a question for Jimmy. Was the jet, was
1103
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:06.170
it flying out of a local airport or was it,
1104
00:56:06.739 --> 00:56:08.280
is there a base near there?
1105
00:56:11.630 --> 00:56:14.610
Yeah, there's a base, Camp Gray Lake.
1106
00:56:15.550 --> 00:56:17.230
Oh, okay.
1107
00:56:19.659 --> 00:56:22.000
So how do you know it was from Texas, Jimmy?
1108
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:24.260
The Pentagon.
1109
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:27.460
Oh, okay.
1110
00:56:29.139 --> 00:56:29.619
Fair enough.
1111
00:56:30.409 --> 00:56:35.909
I was just curious. So, yeah, all right. So the
1112
00:56:36.250 --> 00:56:39.429
F-16 inconvenienced you. You couldn't get to the junkyard. Hey,
1113
00:56:39.449 --> 00:56:41.389
what were you going to the junkyard for anyways, just
1114
00:56:41.630 --> 00:56:42.250
if you want to tell me?
1115
00:56:42.250 --> 00:56:43.269
I was about to ask that.
1116
00:56:43.309 --> 00:56:43.530
Yeah.
1117
00:56:43.550 --> 00:56:45.269
I was about to ask that same question. What were
1118
00:56:45.289 --> 00:56:45.969
you going for?
1119
00:56:46.130 --> 00:56:48.269
Probably something to do with one of his cars because
1120
00:56:48.289 --> 00:56:50.750
he does stuff and he goes and he– but I'm
1121
00:56:50.769 --> 00:56:52.469
just curious. What were you going to the junkyard for?
1122
00:56:54.949 --> 00:56:56.570
I needed an alternator.
1123
00:56:57.130 --> 00:57:00.829
Oh, okay. Fair enough reason.
1124
00:57:02.889 --> 00:57:05.389
All right. Another item that has gotten too expensive.
1125
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:07.579
Well, you know what I was thinking there, Jimmy? Would
1126
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.440
you have been better off, like, ordering an alternator online
1127
00:57:10.500 --> 00:57:12.659
because that way you would have saved your own gas and,
1128
00:57:12.699 --> 00:57:15.480
you know, Amazon or whoever could have delivered it? Would
1129
00:57:15.500 --> 00:57:17.179
that be cheaper nowadays or no?
1130
00:57:18.059 --> 00:57:18.980
Well, you've got the courts.
1131
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:20.650
Not as cheap as the 80s.
1132
00:57:21.059 --> 00:57:21.380
Okay.
1133
00:57:21.420 --> 00:57:22.510
No, I'm just asking.
1134
00:57:22.860 --> 00:57:26.650
Cheap as you get on the interwebs, 200 bucks.
1135
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:27.510
Right.
1136
00:57:27.829 --> 00:57:31.070
I can get one for $ 35 more powerful.
1137
00:57:31.849 --> 00:57:34.289
Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I know they're about $ 200 because
1138
00:57:34.750 --> 00:57:36.369
not too long ago I had to get one. If
1139
00:57:36.409 --> 00:57:39.010
you guys don't forget, or if you guys forgot, like
1140
00:57:39.170 --> 00:57:40.820
maybe two years ago I was trying to, or three
1141
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:43.239
years ago I was trying to get one. And that
1142
00:57:43.260 --> 00:57:44.960
was a whole nightmare where I was trying to find
1143
00:57:45.019 --> 00:57:48.679
parts that didn't cost, you know, hundreds of dollars to
1144
00:57:48.699 --> 00:57:50.400
then put it in myself. And I was going to
1145
00:57:50.420 --> 00:57:52.199
have to figure out how to do it because I'm
1146
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:55.699
not very, I'm not, you know, well-schooled on cars. But
1147
00:57:55.739 --> 00:57:57.179
I was still going to take a chance to figure
1148
00:57:57.219 --> 00:57:58.619
out how to do it because I couldn't afford to
1149
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.869
go to the mechanic for sure to fix the alternator
1150
00:58:02.070 --> 00:58:06.090
in Mrs. O's car. So I tried. And, yeah, that
1151
00:58:06.110 --> 00:58:08.469
was a bitch trying to find anything under $ 200 for
1152
00:58:08.489 --> 00:58:10.369
an alternator. But, you know, I thought maybe you might
1153
00:58:10.389 --> 00:58:12.730
have a different model. You could have a different experience.
1154
00:58:13.070 --> 00:58:16.119
Maybe yours online would be cheaper. But, no, when you're
1155
00:58:16.139 --> 00:58:18.440
talking $ 30 versus $ 200, I guess it's worth it.
1156
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:19.679
Well, I've been waiting more now.
1157
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:23.380
You're talking the pre-Joe Biden prices.
1158
00:58:23.860 --> 00:58:23.980
Hmm.
1159
00:58:25.030 --> 00:58:27.110
The 200 online would have.
1160
00:58:26.949 --> 00:58:28.449
Even been a miracle price.
1161
00:58:28.610 --> 00:58:30.280
And that was for refurbished.
1162
00:58:32.340 --> 00:58:35.559
Yeah. Yeah. That, that sounds right to about 200 bucks
1163
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:38.460
for a refurbished. But then again, like I say, your model,
1164
00:58:38.780 --> 00:58:41.639
you know, the car could change that equation a little bit.
1165
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.860
Cause you know, there was different prices on different alternators,
1166
00:58:46.780 --> 00:58:49.320
but on average, it looked to me like, you know,
1167
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:50.800
200 bucks, if I was going to get one at
1168
00:58:50.989 --> 00:58:52.889
all and it wasn't going to be brand new, you're right.
1169
00:58:52.929 --> 00:58:55.690
It was going to be, you know, Something that was
1170
00:58:56.030 --> 00:58:58.429
in some way either pulled out of a, you know,
1171
00:58:58.469 --> 00:59:02.460
probably sitting on a junkyard, you know, shelf somewhere and
1172
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.659
then Amazon will deliver it for me for 200 bucks
1173
00:59:05.860 --> 00:59:08.590
is probably what I was getting. So you're cutting out
1174
00:59:08.630 --> 00:59:09.969
the middleman and saving money.
1175
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:10.519
Okay.
1176
00:59:10.539 --> 00:59:12.059
Hey, smart, right?
1177
00:59:15.380 --> 00:59:18.250
Yeah, I would take soul outside of getting hit by
1178
00:59:18.269 --> 00:59:19.230
a stupid plane.
1179
00:59:20.250 --> 00:59:21.849
There you go. If it wasn't for that, you wouldn't
1180
00:59:21.869 --> 00:59:22.909
have wasted your gas money.
1181
00:59:22.929 --> 00:59:23.130
Okay.
1182
00:59:23.949 --> 00:59:28.590
And a correction from last week that that podcast wasn't
1183
00:59:28.710 --> 00:59:32.619
called The Phantom Soldier. It was The Phantom Marine.
1184
00:59:33.539 --> 00:59:35.179
Oh, The Phantom Marine. Okay.
1185
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.960
Do you want to listen to it or read about
1186
00:59:40.059 --> 00:59:44.619
it or what? What's up, Danny? What's up, BP?
1187
00:59:44.980 --> 00:59:48.329
You know what? I did not follow up. I got
1188
00:59:48.349 --> 00:59:50.829
busy with other things, but I don't know. BP, did
1189
00:59:50.849 --> 00:59:51.750
you happen to check on that?
1190
00:59:52.739 --> 00:59:54.940
No, I've not had a chance this week. I've been
1191
00:59:55.460 --> 00:59:58.210
up to my elbows in lower parts.
1192
00:59:58.690 --> 01:00:00.989
Okay, well, that's you. Let's check with Danny and see
1193
01:00:01.030 --> 01:00:04.650
if he checked on it. Danny, did you follow up
1194
01:00:04.769 --> 01:00:05.230
on the phantom?
1195
01:00:05.250 --> 01:00:06.809
No, I didn't have a chance to.
1196
01:00:06.889 --> 01:00:10.130
Okay, so there you go. Jimmy, sorry. I guess all
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of us failed at our homework assignment. Sorry about that. Anyway,
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you're both live.
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Terrible, terrible, terrible.
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Terrible, terrible.
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Chuck, did you happen to go through that brief 80-page
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memo I sent you on Watergate.
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01:00:27.579 --> 01:00:33.340
I went through your JFK, you know, document, and I
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01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.300
see you have sent it to some other people, too,
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01:00:35.469 --> 01:00:37.329
that are looking it over, and I think you've sent
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01:00:37.389 --> 01:00:39.889
it to the right people, or at least it's been
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01:00:39.949 --> 01:00:43.769
sent to the right people, but the Watergate document, I
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01:00:43.829 --> 01:00:45.969
don't think I have looked that over yet, but I
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01:00:46.030 --> 01:00:47.090
did read the JFK one.
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01:00:51.210 --> 01:00:54.340
Well, I sent you one on Watergate because I know
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you're sick of JFK.
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01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.820
Yeah, definitely. Although I got, you know, what's messed up
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01:01:00.030 --> 01:01:03.650
is I'm now getting interview requests to talk about JFK
1214
01:01:03.789 --> 01:01:06.949
on podcasts and stuff more than I have in years.
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01:01:07.530 --> 01:01:13.210
And I'm just telling them no. So I'm only going
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01:01:13.230 --> 01:01:15.590
to talk to my friends. And I made an exception
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01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:19.679
for Leno Sanic. Uh, cause I found that, you know,
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01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:21.519
to be an opportunity. I couldn't say no to, to
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01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:25.800
be on black op radio. But aside from that, even
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01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.139
the national radio shows, I have no desire to talk
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01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:32.289
about JFK anymore. Um, you know, my research is done.
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01:01:33.389 --> 01:01:36.550
So in my mind, I'll be outdated, uh, very shortly.
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01:01:37.190 --> 01:01:39.010
Cause I'm not keeping up with things and I'm not
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01:01:39.250 --> 01:01:42.030
discovering anything new. So what do I have new to say? Nothing.
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01:01:43.380 --> 01:01:46.289
And besides, I feel like nobody wants to hear it anyhow. So,
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01:01:46.389 --> 01:01:48.989
you know, find a better guest for your radio shows
1227
01:01:49.110 --> 01:01:53.710
and your podcast, please, because I'm not it anymore. You know,
1228
01:01:53.909 --> 01:01:55.510
you call on here. I'll talk to you a little
1229
01:01:55.530 --> 01:01:57.469
bit about it because you're just a dude or whatever.
1230
01:01:57.530 --> 01:02:01.550
But I'm not sitting down and, you know, pressuring myself
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01:02:01.590 --> 01:02:03.730
with trying to answer every question and, you know, be
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01:02:03.809 --> 01:02:06.050
accurate and all that for you guys on your shows.
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01:02:06.090 --> 01:02:09.219
I'm not doing it. But, yeah, you want to call in,
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01:02:09.260 --> 01:02:12.119
do that. And I'll answer whatever question you want or
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01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:14.849
let somebody else, Jimmy or BP or even Danny can
1236
01:02:14.909 --> 01:02:18.309
answer a question. We can all have a discussion on here,
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01:02:18.650 --> 01:02:21.769
but I'm not going on as the featured guest anymore
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01:02:21.789 --> 01:02:24.010
for JFK stuff. You can keep it unless Len wants
1239
01:02:24.030 --> 01:02:26.190
to do a part two. I'll do a part two
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01:02:26.250 --> 01:02:28.550
on Black Op Radio if he wants, but I doubt
1241
01:02:28.610 --> 01:02:35.090
he's going to do that. We shall see. You know,
1242
01:02:35.130 --> 01:02:37.369
he said he would off air, but we'll see what happens.
1243
01:02:39.510 --> 01:02:43.800
So anyway, yeah. So no, I haven't read the Watergate document,
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01:02:43.820 --> 01:02:45.699
but you want to give us some hints about what's
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01:02:45.780 --> 01:02:47.500
in it or talk about that or you want to
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01:02:47.539 --> 01:02:48.519
move on to something else, Jimmy?
1247
01:02:52.820 --> 01:02:54.789
Yeah, we could move on.
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01:02:55.829 --> 01:03:05.929
Okay. Anything else you want to bring up? Okay. Well, Danny,
1249
01:03:06.050 --> 01:03:08.250
unless you have a fresh brand new topic to throw
1250
01:03:08.329 --> 01:03:10.090
on the table, I'm thinking maybe we should take a
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01:03:10.110 --> 01:03:14.489
quick break just so I have a moment to rearrange things.
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01:03:14.590 --> 01:03:16.650
And we are going to go live at least a
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01:03:16.670 --> 01:03:21.050
quarter after 10 tonight because I started late. But Danny,
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01:03:21.090 --> 01:03:22.829
anything you want to get in before I take a break?
1255
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:26.039
Go ahead and take the break and then I'll try
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01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:27.679
to bring up a fresh new topic.
1257
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:31.130
Okay, there you go. So everybody stay tuned for fresh
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01:03:31.210 --> 01:03:33.829
new topic. And again, if you want to join in
1259
01:03:33.969 --> 01:03:36.909
and become part of this, this thing we are doing
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with the open mic Friday night, you can join in
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on this by calling 319-527-5016. Become a part of this,
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01:03:45.409 --> 01:03:49.679
the open mic live Friday night show with BP, my co-host.
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And BP, anything you want to say before I go
1264
01:03:51.780 --> 01:03:54.119
to break? It's all you because I muted the callers.
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01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:55.420
Anything you want to throw in?
1266
01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:59.119
No, we'll go ahead and take a break and come back.
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01:03:59.179 --> 01:04:01.320
I'm just trying to scan headlines and that, see if
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there's anything we need to throw in the middle. This
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And the second segment of the Ocelli Effect live open
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mic Friday night begins now. We are going to go
1313
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to at least quarter after 10. We'll see how things
1314
01:08:37.539 --> 01:08:39.859
are going then. And of course, if new callers join,
1315
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:43.489
we're more likely to stay live. I'm not rushing to
1316
01:08:43.529 --> 01:08:45.109
get off, but I'm also not going to stay on
1317
01:08:45.130 --> 01:08:48.289
all night or even an extra hour tonight. because I
1318
01:08:48.329 --> 01:08:50.069
do have some things to do, but at least it's
1319
01:08:50.109 --> 01:08:52.060
not an immediate thing where I almost had to cut
1320
01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:55.119
the show short last week, but thank God not this week.
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01:08:55.699 --> 01:08:57.550
And it is due to the help of friends, which
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01:08:57.590 --> 01:09:00.380
I'm not sure if they want to be... you know,
1323
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.180
mentioned on air directly or not. But as I said,
1324
01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:06.199
this Friday night open mic call in show is literally
1325
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:08.810
brought to you by guess what? The three people who
1326
01:09:08.829 --> 01:09:13.130
are on it tonight, BP, Danny and Jimmy James. They
1327
01:09:13.250 --> 01:09:15.250
are the sponsors of this Friday night show. And the
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01:09:15.270 --> 01:09:19.199
reason why I make sure that we always do this show. Uh,
1329
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:20.899
and in the future, that's the way that's going to
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01:09:20.939 --> 01:09:24.689
roll too. So even the Thursday night jam, okay. With
1331
01:09:24.729 --> 01:09:27.670
our friend Brad, which I think has been entertaining, uh,
1332
01:09:27.770 --> 01:09:29.850
but I'm not getting a lot of feedback yet. So
1333
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you guys hate it. Let me know that too. Uh,
1334
01:09:32.869 --> 01:09:35.229
you know, I'm also voicing a cartoon for the guy,
1335
01:09:35.350 --> 01:09:38.350
which is interesting. You might want to follow those links. And, uh,
1336
01:09:38.449 --> 01:09:41.409
it's like a video game looking cartoon thing animation. And
1337
01:09:41.449 --> 01:09:44.170
I'm one of the voices on it now. Uh, I
1338
01:09:44.229 --> 01:09:47.220
am a scumbag character in a scumbag universe and I
1339
01:09:47.260 --> 01:09:53.489
find it hilarious. Uh, Anyways, there's that. And who knows?
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01:09:53.529 --> 01:09:55.770
There may be an announcement coming up for me voicing
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01:09:55.970 --> 01:10:01.539
another animated figure. But I'd like to see if the
1342
01:10:01.619 --> 01:10:04.859
Netflix agreement happens there because I'll actually get paid, which
1343
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:08.479
would be nice. But, you know, hey, things going in
1344
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:10.279
the future. And as I said, Ocelli and the Greek
1345
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:14.359
rated Y is no more. That is finished. So if
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you haven't looked into that, you can still. The episode's
1347
01:10:18.270 --> 01:10:21.409
up on Patreon, but it's a Patreon exclusive. And I
1348
01:10:21.449 --> 01:10:23.130
do get a little cut out of that money, but
1349
01:10:23.310 --> 01:10:25.689
that's about to all disappear because people are dropping away
1350
01:10:25.710 --> 01:10:28.350
from it ever since we announced this week. There will
1351
01:10:28.390 --> 01:10:32.180
be no new episodes. So that exists. And also the
1352
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.720
Supporters Club on Spreaker. I would appreciate it if you
1353
01:10:34.739 --> 01:10:36.960
joined there. It is a Supporters Club. There are now,
1354
01:10:37.020 --> 01:10:40.720
ready for this, officially three members to the Supporters Club
1355
01:10:40.739 --> 01:10:43.630
last I looked. And I know exactly who all three
1356
01:10:43.649 --> 01:10:46.909
of them are. And I thank you guys. Eight bucks
1357
01:10:46.949 --> 01:10:50.340
a month. Not bad. And you get material there that
1358
01:10:50.350 --> 01:10:52.850
you do not get on the free podcast feed. I
1359
01:10:52.909 --> 01:10:55.520
will constantly feed stuff there that I used to put
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01:10:55.659 --> 01:10:59.819
in the member section at Ocelli.com until my PayPal was canceled.
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01:10:59.960 --> 01:11:02.560
And now those memberships are there as long as the
1362
01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:05.439
website's there. But nobody's getting charged for them. So if
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01:11:05.460 --> 01:11:07.810
you had one of those, it still works. But I
1364
01:11:07.829 --> 01:11:09.989
would appreciate it if you went over to the Supporters
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01:11:10.010 --> 01:11:12.430
Club at Spreaker.com because I'm not going to add anything
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01:11:12.470 --> 01:11:15.689
new to the website member section from here on out.
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01:11:16.409 --> 01:11:20.449
But new stuff will be on the Supporters Club on Spreaker.
1368
01:11:20.670 --> 01:11:22.810
And guess what? Every time a new member joins, I
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01:11:22.850 --> 01:11:26.479
promise that there will be five additional pieces of audio
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01:11:26.649 --> 01:11:31.359
added with every new member, plus the regular additions, extras, okay?
1371
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So there you go. And so, BP, did you want
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to get into something here before we let the callers
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back on? Because last I looked, Jimmy James and Danny
1374
01:11:40.180 --> 01:11:43.579
are still there. And what the hell? We'll go roundtable
1375
01:11:44.380 --> 01:11:46.199
and bring each of them on and just, you know,
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01:11:46.220 --> 01:11:48.180
continue for the rest of the show unless somebody else
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01:11:48.220 --> 01:11:50.920
calls in. I'll give priority to the new caller. But
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till then, what do you got?
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Oh, well, Julian Assange is back on Twitter, which I
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found interesting. Well, not really startling. It's just that, you know,
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he had slipped from my mind. And so I had
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to do a search and find out what his situation is. Apparently,
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he's living in Australia. And it says here he returned
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in June of 2024 after his plea agreement with the
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United States.
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Right.
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01:12:18.659 --> 01:12:21.579
But I thought they were still trying to extradite him
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for charges. Well.
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Look, here's the problem with Assange. He's become a symbol
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to some people, and some people think he is a
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whistleblower extraordinaire and a guy that the government is going
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after because he's inconvenient to them and all of that.
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01:12:43.050 --> 01:12:45.229
And you do remember where Julian Assange came from in
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01:12:45.270 --> 01:12:49.050
the first place. It came to prominence, right? Yeah. Okay.
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01:12:49.229 --> 01:12:53.020
So depending on how you view that, He's either a
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hero or just an annoyance or whatever. But to me,
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the guy is just an extension of the establishment and
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the government itself. He's another agent working on behalf of
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different people. So I don't see him as revolutionary or
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anything like that. And that gets me in trouble among,
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01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:13.699
you know, others. But I don't find him of any significance.
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01:13:13.739 --> 01:13:15.920
I don't track the story. There's people that are constantly,
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you know, posting free Assange. He's still a political prisoner. And, and,
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01:13:21.659 --> 01:13:25.819
I just don't even care. Personally, I think he's not
1405
01:13:26.020 --> 01:13:28.819
of significance. He's not a great journalist. He's not some
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01:13:28.859 --> 01:13:33.649
revolutionary figure. I'm sorry. But other people daily will tell
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you that he was persecuted and this and that, and
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01:13:37.270 --> 01:13:40.289
oh my God, his poor treatment. But he's living in
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Australia and has a plea agreement. Yes, he does. quietly,
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that happened. But I don't know if he pleaded out
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on all of his stuff or just part of it,
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01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:51.659
because I haven't kept track of the story, so I
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01:13:51.699 --> 01:13:53.699
don't know how to answer that. You want me to
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01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:55.579
ask Danny and Jimmy to answer it, or you got
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something else?
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No, just look at that. The only other thing I
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saw that kind of stuck out to me is we've
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got Canada and Australia are basically buddying up to the
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EU as associate members. And I remember going through when
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I was in Switzerland, and the fact that Switzerland has
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not joined the EU, but they have signed on to
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certain agreements, like the Schengen Agreement, which allows people to
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01:14:24.170 --> 01:14:26.250
go in and out of countries without having to go,
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01:14:26.510 --> 01:14:28.729
you know, get your passport stamped and things like that,
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you know, free travel and free movement. But I didn't
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realize that both Canada and Australia were now trying to
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buddy up to what people call the new world order.
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I just don't know. It's kind of, kind of surprised me.
1429
01:14:44.659 --> 01:14:47.140
I mean, I don't know, especially when you consider that
1430
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:53.520
the United Kingdom, which basically still is the, the, um,
1431
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:57.689
the King of England is still the King of Australia
1432
01:14:57.699 --> 01:14:59.279
and the King of Canada.
1433
01:14:59.739 --> 01:14:59.960
Yeah.
1434
01:15:00.140 --> 01:15:02.689
So, you know, I find it surprising that, you know,
1435
01:15:02.930 --> 01:15:08.229
Great Britain leaves or England. Well, Great Britain left. What,
1436
01:15:08.250 --> 01:15:11.149
the Scotland state or Ireland's? Ireland's state, I think it was,
1437
01:15:11.729 --> 01:15:12.489
connected with them.
1438
01:15:13.899 --> 01:15:17.000
I'm a little confused about that myself. I thought Ireland left.
1439
01:15:17.260 --> 01:15:18.880
The UK did the Brexit.
1440
01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:20.279
Right.
1441
01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:27.659
No, well, Ireland was granted sovereignty over the non- There's
1442
01:15:27.699 --> 01:15:31.810
six counties in Northern Ireland that are still connected with England.
1443
01:15:32.310 --> 01:15:32.850
Right.
1444
01:15:32.930 --> 01:15:37.930
But when you say Great Britain, well, Great Britain. OK,
1445
01:15:38.090 --> 01:15:41.789
let's get away from England. Great Britain, you know, they
1446
01:15:41.810 --> 01:15:45.149
were granted independence from Great Britain except for those six
1447
01:15:45.210 --> 01:15:49.439
northern counties. So when Great Britain decided to leave Brexit,
1448
01:15:50.310 --> 01:15:53.770
Ireland was able to stay independent. Or when they went
1449
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.020
through Brexit, Ireland was able to say, no, we're not
1450
01:15:56.380 --> 01:15:58.380
leaving the EU. They're still connected. OK.
1451
01:15:58.399 --> 01:15:58.619
Yeah.
1452
01:15:58.880 --> 01:15:59.460
All right.
1453
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:03.899
Well, again, like I said, I'm a little confused about it. So, yeah, possibly.
1454
01:16:04.649 --> 01:16:06.470
The interesting thing to me, though, is that there should
1455
01:16:06.510 --> 01:16:10.229
be no surprise, as you said, because both the, you know,
1456
01:16:10.529 --> 01:16:15.119
a nation of Canada and Australia literally do function under
1457
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:18.789
the British crown. Even though they're allegedly, you know, independent,
1458
01:16:18.829 --> 01:16:21.079
sovereign nations and all that, at the end of the day,
1459
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:25.560
they're still functioning under the British crown. That is their
1460
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:28.060
reason for having a government the way they do. I mean,
1461
01:16:28.100 --> 01:16:29.739
it's just like what they do in England, where you
1462
01:16:29.779 --> 01:16:32.449
got to still ask, even though it's a ceremonial position,
1463
01:16:33.350 --> 01:16:35.970
pretty much the office of the king, whoever controls that,
1464
01:16:36.050 --> 01:16:38.350
which at one time was the queen controlling the office
1465
01:16:38.369 --> 01:16:42.250
of the king. And now it's King Charles. You have
1466
01:16:42.270 --> 01:16:45.810
to ask permission to form a government from that sovereign leader.
1467
01:16:45.949 --> 01:16:49.569
That sovereign needs to, you know, approve you forming a
1468
01:16:49.689 --> 01:16:51.890
government in England.
1469
01:16:51.989 --> 01:16:52.189
Right.
1470
01:16:52.829 --> 01:16:56.149
So, you know, I see there's a similar arrangement with
1471
01:16:56.189 --> 01:16:59.460
Canada and with Australia, regardless of their prime minister and
1472
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:02.739
this and that. So I'm not surprised, but it is
1473
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.979
weird because they're stepping out of the union and these
1474
01:17:06.020 --> 01:17:09.229
guys are trying to buddy up to it now. And, uh,
1475
01:17:09.350 --> 01:17:12.180
quite honestly, most people think of Canada, you know, previous
1476
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:16.399
to Trump anyway, Canada was like our constant cousin. And, uh,
1477
01:17:16.539 --> 01:17:18.779
so was Australia, right? It was like, they're going to
1478
01:17:18.819 --> 01:17:21.619
pretty much go where America goes. And usually when we
1479
01:17:21.659 --> 01:17:25.340
have a coalition of the willing for anything, uh, Canada
1480
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:27.979
and Australia do join us, even if it's in a, uh,
1481
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:30.680
you know, a very small way with whatever it is
1482
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:35.279
we're doing militarily, diplomatically, et cetera. But does that mark
1483
01:17:35.300 --> 01:17:36.800
that there is now going to be a change and
1484
01:17:36.819 --> 01:17:40.220
they're going to, uh, you know, caucus, if you will,
1485
01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:44.609
with the EU when it comes to what? Just business? See,
1486
01:17:44.649 --> 01:17:48.529
that's another thing about this. There are places that want
1487
01:17:48.550 --> 01:17:51.310
to do business with the EU, but don't want to
1488
01:17:51.350 --> 01:17:55.739
join it, right? And then, you know, people start talking
1489
01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:58.060
about NATO and everything else, but that's a separate issue.
1490
01:17:59.010 --> 01:17:59.289
Yeah.
1491
01:17:59.350 --> 01:18:02.119
I mean, that's like Switzerland. They, you know, they thrive
1492
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:03.560
off connection with the EU.
1493
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:03.920
Right.
1494
01:18:04.220 --> 01:18:06.399
They don't want to lose that business. It would kill them.
1495
01:18:06.659 --> 01:18:06.840
Right.
1496
01:18:06.859 --> 01:18:07.659
They do the business.
1497
01:18:08.060 --> 01:18:09.399
They don't want to join. Right.
1498
01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:14.789
That's, you know. Well, that's just that's just the Swiss anyway,
1499
01:18:14.869 --> 01:18:17.510
being a landlocked country around a whole bunch of hostile people.
1500
01:18:17.550 --> 01:18:19.310
They've had to learn to like be like, hey, look,
1501
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:22.640
leave us out of it. But we'll do business with
1502
01:18:22.699 --> 01:18:26.510
all of you. uh, you know, no, uh, no restrictions there.
1503
01:18:26.529 --> 01:18:28.550
And don't tell us who to sanction. We'll do business
1504
01:18:28.569 --> 01:18:30.390
with everybody. And the whole.
1505
01:18:30.270 --> 01:18:35.140
Country was founded as a, as a mercenary group, basically. Uh,
1506
01:18:35.220 --> 01:18:38.140
even back when it was just cantons before the Swiss
1507
01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:41.640
Federation ever became a part of it. Um, all these
1508
01:18:41.699 --> 01:18:45.949
warring factions between, you know, Austria and Italy and, and
1509
01:18:46.210 --> 01:18:49.250
Prussia and Germany. And I, you know, they held the
1510
01:18:49.310 --> 01:18:51.590
money when the other, two people wanted to go to war,
1511
01:18:51.630 --> 01:18:54.850
it's like, hey, we're going to stash our gold here
1512
01:18:54.869 --> 01:18:59.020
because they'll protect it. And if we lose, we can
1513
01:18:59.060 --> 01:19:01.840
always get what we got saved and do something else.
1514
01:19:01.939 --> 01:19:04.460
And Switzerland goes, we.
1515
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:07.359
Would be more than happy to hold your money for
1516
01:19:07.390 --> 01:19:07.739
a cut.
1517
01:19:08.020 --> 01:19:10.609
Yeah, we'll be happy to be your bankers. And the
1518
01:19:10.670 --> 01:19:14.189
other thing is they always send, historically anyway, they always
1519
01:19:14.289 --> 01:19:17.649
used to send envoys to both sides. So you end
1520
01:19:17.729 --> 01:19:20.869
up with an elite Swiss guard being sent to one
1521
01:19:20.909 --> 01:19:21.649
place or another.
1522
01:19:21.670 --> 01:19:24.810
Oh, yeah. They were total mercenaries, no doubt about it.
1523
01:19:24.970 --> 01:19:27.909
And even to this day, I believe, to this day,
1524
01:19:28.029 --> 01:19:31.470
responsible for the security of the pope. uh in the
1525
01:19:31.649 --> 01:19:34.260
nation state of the vatican is the swiss.
1526
01:19:34.100 --> 01:19:36.880
Guard guard is yeah the swiss guard handles all of.
1527
01:19:36.899 --> 01:19:40.060
That right i'm just saying and it's because guess what
1528
01:19:40.140 --> 01:19:42.399
they're neutral that's the idea they're not going to be
1529
01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:45.960
politically swayed into some you know assassination plot or anything
1530
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:48.359
else because they work for both sides at all times
1531
01:19:49.180 --> 01:19:51.300
so they don't do the thing like tip the scale
1532
01:19:51.340 --> 01:19:54.399
for assassinations or overthrows of governments and things like that
1533
01:19:55.090 --> 01:19:58.229
again at a self-preservation it's the smartest strategy and they've
1534
01:19:58.250 --> 01:20:01.229
been able to do it the best That's why, you know, remember,
1535
01:20:01.289 --> 01:20:03.350
Swiss bank accounts were the big thing, right? That's where
1536
01:20:03.369 --> 01:20:06.060
you could send your money no matter what, because they
1537
01:20:06.069 --> 01:20:08.439
didn't care about what your politics were, what your criminal
1538
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:10.760
record was. They're just there.
1539
01:20:10.819 --> 01:20:13.279
I went over there was when the U.S. was pressuring
1540
01:20:13.300 --> 01:20:14.619
them to give up information.
1541
01:20:15.220 --> 01:20:15.420
Right.
1542
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:17.340
Some of these account holders. And it was a big
1543
01:20:17.380 --> 01:20:19.300
thing over there. You know, why are we doing this?
1544
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:21.979
This is a violation of what we've always believed in.
1545
01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:23.199
It was right.
1546
01:20:23.500 --> 01:20:26.039
It was really a hot topic over there for a while. Yeah, no.
1547
01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:30.010
And rightly so. But anyway, so there's that. Anything else
1548
01:20:30.029 --> 01:20:33.649
you want to bring up before we bring the college back? No.
1549
01:20:34.189 --> 01:20:37.630
It just surprised me that Assange was back two years
1550
01:20:37.710 --> 01:20:39.739
after he gets back home. And I looked it up.
1551
01:20:39.770 --> 01:20:42.020
He's not facing any more charges. He did sign up.
1552
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:49.060
He signed a plea agreement for one act of espionage
1553
01:20:49.819 --> 01:20:55.430
or something. But apparently he still has restrictions on travel
1554
01:20:55.510 --> 01:20:58.890
based on his plea agreement. I don't know how long
1555
01:20:58.949 --> 01:20:59.590
that's in place.
1556
01:21:00.789 --> 01:21:04.630
And different places do it different, right? If you've been
1557
01:21:04.649 --> 01:21:07.069
convicted of this or that, sometimes they don't let you
1558
01:21:07.109 --> 01:21:08.960
even enter their countries, etc.
1559
01:21:09.039 --> 01:21:13.180
Yeah, the funny thing was when he left Belmar's prison,
1560
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:17.060
he stopped at, what is it, North Mariana's Island, which
1561
01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:21.609
is a U.S. territory. to sign his plea agreement with
1562
01:21:21.630 --> 01:21:23.649
the U.S. before he went on to Australia.
1563
01:21:23.949 --> 01:21:27.090
Well, there you go. And this is where, you know, yeah,
1564
01:21:27.130 --> 01:21:29.869
your travel can be restricted because everybody's got different rules
1565
01:21:29.909 --> 01:21:33.340
about this. You know, like, you know, if you think back,
1566
01:21:33.399 --> 01:21:36.739
I know this is totally unrelated, but think back. You had,
1567
01:21:36.779 --> 01:21:38.680
you know, members of the Beatles not being able to
1568
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:41.260
go to certain Asian nations because they had gotten, you know,
1569
01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:46.000
convicted of possession for marijuana, right? And therefore, they could
1570
01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:49.500
not enter certain Asian nations, regardless of how much money
1571
01:21:49.539 --> 01:21:51.909
was going to be made or anything else. They had rules.
1572
01:21:52.170 --> 01:21:55.930
Yeah, that's happened to a couple others. Eric Clapton and
1573
01:21:55.970 --> 01:21:59.050
a few others have been told they have persona non
1574
01:21:59.069 --> 01:22:00.130
grata at certain places.
1575
01:22:00.170 --> 01:22:04.399
Yeah, right. So, you know, so Julian Assange, again, not special.
1576
01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:06.720
It's just he's now got travel restrictions on him, as
1577
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:09.319
a conviction does. And he made a plea to, you know,
1578
01:22:09.380 --> 01:22:12.579
admit to one count of whatever the hell. And there
1579
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:12.800
you go.
1580
01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:15.779
People are already pleading with him to release all of
1581
01:22:15.819 --> 01:22:18.539
the Epstein files. They're saying, hey, give us a hand here.
1582
01:22:19.699 --> 01:22:23.140
If he's got it, you know, of course. But anyway,
1583
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.399
it is what it is. Let's go back to Danny
1584
01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:27.550
and then Jimmy in that order. And maybe I'll leave
1585
01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:29.090
them both on the line at the same time and
1586
01:22:29.100 --> 01:22:32.710
just let them talk. So, Danny, you said you'd have
1587
01:22:32.750 --> 01:22:34.770
a fresh new topic. I tried to give you time.
1588
01:22:34.850 --> 01:22:36.909
So there you go. Fresh new topics there.
1589
01:22:38.180 --> 01:22:38.560
Yeah.
1590
01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:41.000
I mean, we're coming into this. I want to make
1591
01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:43.279
the political season a little fun.
1592
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:44.949
And I'm hearing the.
1593
01:22:47.420 --> 01:22:50.500
terminology that communism is back.
1594
01:22:51.979 --> 01:22:53.699
I think we should make a... What?
1595
01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:58.760
Yeah, that's a thing right now, right? Bill Maher.
1596
01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:04.060
I'm not talking about... We should make communism fun. I mean,
1597
01:23:04.100 --> 01:23:07.100
we kind of think about it like healthcare or housing
1598
01:23:07.260 --> 01:23:10.939
or wages being useful, but I think we should make
1599
01:23:11.020 --> 01:23:15.930
it an opportunity to be like the wealthy have public
1600
01:23:15.970 --> 01:23:21.649
yachts public-private planes. I mean, one of my best friends,
1601
01:23:22.810 --> 01:23:25.189
before he passed away of cancer, he ended up buying
1602
01:23:25.229 --> 01:23:27.649
a lovely boat and yacht, and it was a great,
1603
01:23:27.710 --> 01:23:31.510
refreshing experience, and I think everybody should have it.
1604
01:23:31.569 --> 01:23:33.729
It shouldn't be limited to Bezos or.
1605
01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:38.520
Trump or whoever has it, or Ognon Khashoggi having a yacht.
1606
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:42.020
How about let's change the face of communism and have
1607
01:23:42.060 --> 01:23:42.659
public yachts?
1608
01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:45.340
Public yachts. Okay. You know what?
1609
01:23:45.380 --> 01:23:49.130
Yeah, we get public yachts, public private. Why should the
1610
01:23:49.170 --> 01:23:50.989
rich have it? You know, we should just, you know,
1611
01:23:51.149 --> 01:23:55.510
everybody should, you know, forget the health care. Forget the housing,
1612
01:23:55.550 --> 01:24:00.149
the education. We have, like, public yachts, you know, maybe
1613
01:24:00.189 --> 01:24:01.529
have ballrooms.
1614
01:24:01.090 --> 01:24:04.590
All over the place, have public ballrooms, you know, public-private planes.
1615
01:24:05.329 --> 01:24:09.170
You know, the less fortunate can experience all those fun
1616
01:24:09.210 --> 01:24:10.529
things that rich people get to do.
1617
01:24:10.949 --> 01:24:13.060
Jeff Bezos has got a big yacht. We could probably
1618
01:24:13.069 --> 01:24:14.079
get a lot of people on that.
1619
01:24:14.520 --> 01:24:14.880
Okay.
1620
01:24:14.979 --> 01:24:17.060
Well, you know, there's that. I say, you know, if
1621
01:24:17.100 --> 01:24:19.720
you want to really get serious about a PR campaign,
1622
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:23.569
I got the perfect, you know— I got the perfect
1623
01:24:23.630 --> 01:24:27.350
representatives for that PR campaign. We could bring back Boris
1624
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:32.380
and Natasha from the Bullwinkle cartoons, and they could be
1625
01:24:32.460 --> 01:24:35.979
the representatives of the cartoon communism you're talking about. I
1626
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:38.439
think that could be entertaining, and it could be a
1627
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:42.479
complete farce. It would be great. Boris and Natasha.
1628
01:24:43.829 --> 01:24:45.170
Have you ever been on a yacht, Chuck?
1629
01:24:46.390 --> 01:24:49.729
Um a yacht you know what not something you would
1630
01:24:49.810 --> 01:24:52.689
call a yacht i've been on a on a uh
1631
01:24:53.090 --> 01:24:55.270
a private boat that i would consider to be a
1632
01:24:55.310 --> 01:24:57.210
luxury craft but i don't think it would be a
1633
01:24:57.289 --> 01:25:00.739
yacht technically there's some technical way that you describe a
1634
01:25:00.779 --> 01:25:02.979
yacht and i forget what it is because i'm not
1635
01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:05.979
on boats that much uh on the jersey shore i
1636
01:25:05.979 --> 01:25:08.699
only ever went on fishing boats.
1637
01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:11.500
Yeah the jersey shore would be great i'm sure Like,
1638
01:25:11.539 --> 01:25:15.970
you know, why should Bon Jovi have a yacht experience
1639
01:25:16.010 --> 01:25:18.729
when you can't? Or, hey, like Jimmy Chains, he's over
1640
01:25:18.750 --> 01:25:20.529
there by the Great Lakes. He could be on a
1641
01:25:20.649 --> 01:25:22.979
public yacht there exploring the Great Lakes.
1642
01:25:23.020 --> 01:25:24.020
That's like an ocean.
1643
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:28.159
Well, look, I'm all for anybody kicking Bon Jovi straight
1644
01:25:28.199 --> 01:25:30.479
in his testicles and taking anything from him he has.
1645
01:25:31.100 --> 01:25:33.119
I'm all for that, even though he's from Jersey. I'm
1646
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:36.890
just saying. I would definitely tune in for a live
1647
01:25:36.909 --> 01:25:40.029
stream pay-per-view of somebody doing that and stealing all his
1648
01:25:40.069 --> 01:25:43.600
stuff and giving it to anybody. It would be great. So,
1649
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:45.470
you know. But that's just me.
1650
01:25:45.539 --> 01:25:47.180
I think you don't like Bon Jovi.
1651
01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:51.359
I have a particular distaste for Bon Giovanni over there,
1652
01:25:51.399 --> 01:25:56.539
which is his real name. Yeah. Go ahead.
1653
01:25:56.579 --> 01:25:57.720
Just an FYI.
1654
01:25:58.020 --> 01:25:58.260
Yes.
1655
01:25:58.300 --> 01:26:02.829
The commercial yacht code classifies yachts as 79 feet tall.
1656
01:26:04.229 --> 01:26:05.359
Or larger.
1657
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:09.960
Okay. So I was on a smaller luxury craft than that.
1658
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:11.979
That's what the problem was, why it couldn't be called
1659
01:26:12.020 --> 01:26:13.920
a yacht. So I guess technically I've never been on
1660
01:26:13.939 --> 01:26:14.300
a yacht.
1661
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:17.640
Okay, well, you know what? His was 56 feet. He
1662
01:26:17.659 --> 01:26:19.159
took me out into San Francisco Bay. Okay.
1663
01:26:19.220 --> 01:26:19.840
And to this day.
1664
01:26:27.149 --> 01:26:29.430
If I have a Manhattan, I drink it just like
1665
01:26:29.909 --> 01:26:32.920
one of my best buddy Nels. Sadly, he passed away
1666
01:26:32.939 --> 01:26:37.180
from cancer. That's Maker's Mark Manhattan. Anybody out there that's
1667
01:26:37.199 --> 01:26:40.779
going to have a Manhattan? Have a maker's mark Manhattan
1668
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:42.050
in honor of my buddy Nels.
1669
01:26:42.649 --> 01:26:42.869
Yeah.
1670
01:26:43.189 --> 01:26:46.470
Well, you know, I had the same experience in limousines where,
1671
01:26:46.550 --> 01:26:48.670
you know, anybody can go rent a limousine for a
1672
01:26:48.710 --> 01:26:52.359
couple hours. But I've been in one of those real
1673
01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:55.960
serious luxury vehicles like that has the little hot tub
1674
01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:58.750
in the back of it and all that. You ever
1675
01:26:58.770 --> 01:27:00.930
see those with the hot tub in the back?
1676
01:27:01.670 --> 01:27:02.550
I've heard of them.
1677
01:27:03.350 --> 01:27:06.369
I used to have a thing, like I said, I
1678
01:27:06.449 --> 01:27:09.270
told myself out of principle I'd never ride in a limousine.
1679
01:27:10.050 --> 01:27:12.939
But unfortunately, I had a cousin.
1680
01:27:13.899 --> 01:27:20.180
In 2002, it was 2002, June 22nd, he was a
1681
01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:22.619
Kings County sheriff in the state of Washington.
1682
01:27:23.220 --> 01:27:24.500
He was killed on duty.
1683
01:27:25.140 --> 01:27:27.600
So I had to go to the public funeral, and
1684
01:27:27.659 --> 01:27:31.500
I ended up in the limousine with the family, and
1685
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:34.779
it was his buddies. He was the special forces in
1686
01:27:34.819 --> 01:27:38.210
the service, and they had kind of a unique clique
1687
01:27:38.289 --> 01:27:42.510
because they all had married Korean women. And they had
1688
01:27:42.529 --> 01:27:45.439
some interesting experiences. But, yeah, I think everybody should have
1689
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:46.279
to drive in a limo.
1690
01:27:46.300 --> 01:27:47.560
I think a tub would be fun.
1691
01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:50.920
Yeah, no, hot tubs are fun. And speaking about the
1692
01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:53.159
funeral thing, I mean, I've been in a limo for,
1693
01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:57.109
you know, like a fleet of limos was hired at
1694
01:27:57.210 --> 01:27:59.810
one point for, let's call them an Italian businessman that
1695
01:27:59.850 --> 01:28:03.789
was related to me. That, you know, and everybody who
1696
01:28:03.829 --> 01:28:06.710
was a family member, even cousins and second cousins, ended
1697
01:28:06.770 --> 01:28:08.729
up riding in these things because there was like, I
1698
01:28:08.770 --> 01:28:12.840
don't know, 10 of them. Uh, so we all went
1699
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:17.800
to the, uh, you know, final ceremony at the dirt, uh, with, uh, in,
1700
01:28:17.939 --> 01:28:21.100
in the stretches, just saying, um, and those were nice.
1701
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:24.779
They were okay. Uh, but, uh, the, these, you know,
1702
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.770
stretched out cars. I mean, there, there are companies that
1703
01:28:27.810 --> 01:28:29.649
are devoted to just doing that, by the way, that
1704
01:28:29.689 --> 01:28:31.789
just stretch them out. There's only a couple left, I think,
1705
01:28:31.810 --> 01:28:34.949
because I don't know how popular limos are at this point, but,
1706
01:28:36.750 --> 01:28:41.319
there's a whole industry to that. Separate climate controls, and
1707
01:28:42.180 --> 01:28:44.760
can you get your satellite TV in there, and exactly
1708
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:47.500
what kind of a secured bar you have, all these
1709
01:28:47.539 --> 01:28:49.720
different aspects to these luxury cars.
1710
01:28:49.739 --> 01:28:50.159
Really?
1711
01:28:50.619 --> 01:28:52.720
You know, we can revive that, you know, with the
1712
01:28:52.739 --> 01:28:56.119
new communism agenda, we can revive the public limos.
1713
01:28:56.439 --> 01:28:59.010
Well, you know what? The public limo could probably be
1714
01:28:59.210 --> 01:29:02.489
those public, like, almost like what John Madden sort of
1715
01:29:02.890 --> 01:29:06.770
pioneered with the, you know, the large sleep-in camper kind
1716
01:29:06.810 --> 01:29:10.430
of vehicles that, again, are luxury style. So it's practically
1717
01:29:10.470 --> 01:29:12.470
a house on wheels, a small house on wheels.
1718
01:29:12.789 --> 01:29:13.090
Yeah.
1719
01:29:14.869 --> 01:29:17.659
Make those public in your new communism campaign.
1720
01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:19.760
Yeah, let's make communism fun.
1721
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:24.180
I like the Natasha and Boris from Bullwinkle.
1722
01:29:24.420 --> 01:29:28.279
Instead of Moose and Squirrel, we give to everyone. Anyway,
1723
01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:28.939
hold on.
1724
01:29:28.979 --> 01:29:33.100
Do you know they are responsible for one of my addictions?
1725
01:29:34.199 --> 01:29:34.319
Uh-oh.
1726
01:29:34.729 --> 01:29:35.100
What is that?
1727
01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:35.989
Bullwinkle Show.
1728
01:29:36.069 --> 01:29:36.390
What's that?
1729
01:29:37.010 --> 01:29:38.350
What is my addiction?
1730
01:29:38.510 --> 01:29:38.750
Yes.
1731
01:29:39.069 --> 01:29:42.079
It was 1966. I used to, I was four years old.
1732
01:29:42.140 --> 01:29:44.520
I would go down on a Sunday morning and I
1733
01:29:44.539 --> 01:29:47.380
would turn on this black and white Zena TV.
1734
01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:49.680
To watch Bullwinkle.
1735
01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:52.739
And right before Bullwinkle was Davey and Goliath.
1736
01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:53.439
Oh God.
1737
01:29:53.659 --> 01:29:55.619
Clay nation show and Gumby.
1738
01:29:56.479 --> 01:29:59.039
And I put it on the wrong channel and it
1739
01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:03.140
was Notre Dame football highlights and And then I went
1740
01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:06.000
there the next weekend, and I've been addicted ever since.
1741
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:11.100
Oh, because you tuned it in early. And now a
1742
01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:13.899
lot of people don't know this, but in the 60s
1743
01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:17.800
and 70s, they used to play NFL films before they
1744
01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:21.319
played you the afternoon game on a Sunday on local
1745
01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:25.460
TV all the time. And you had that guy in.
1746
01:30:25.420 --> 01:30:26.840
The spirit of war.
1747
01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:31.079
These men stepped on the gridiron and then it was
1748
01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:34.350
snowing and the freezing cold did not stop the heat
1749
01:30:34.590 --> 01:30:37.770
that came from the kicker. You know, like that intense
1750
01:30:37.810 --> 01:30:39.569
dude that was on there voicing them all.
1751
01:30:40.310 --> 01:30:41.590
And they have that.
1752
01:30:41.729 --> 01:30:42.250
And they have that.
1753
01:30:44.210 --> 01:30:47.949
And the quarterback throw the pass as that slow motion
1754
01:30:48.069 --> 01:30:51.250
spiral into the hands of that run where they broke
1755
01:30:51.329 --> 01:30:52.020
through the tackle.
1756
01:30:52.069 --> 01:30:52.880
Yeah, it was great.
1757
01:30:53.029 --> 01:30:55.659
Yeah. Like you could literally see the facial expressions of
1758
01:30:55.720 --> 01:30:58.199
guys in slow motion with these close up shots that
1759
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:02.060
you never saw on TV from NFL films. Yeah. You know,
1760
01:31:02.140 --> 01:31:04.539
it was beautiful. And my favorite one was like the
1761
01:31:04.739 --> 01:31:07.260
ice bowl or, you know, the first Super Bowl took
1762
01:31:07.300 --> 01:31:11.619
place because, you know. But they would play, like, I
1763
01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:13.439
don't know how long, but it was a while of
1764
01:31:13.479 --> 01:31:16.270
this stuff on Sunday. And, yeah, I watched Davy and Goliath, too,
1765
01:31:16.329 --> 01:31:21.550
and I thought it was absolutely insane, the claymation. Because
1766
01:31:22.329 --> 01:31:27.250
the Jesus-loving talking dog is Goliath.
1767
01:31:27.310 --> 01:31:29.670
It was a great show until I found Notre Dame football.
1768
01:31:29.710 --> 01:31:35.500
But, yeah, the whole got me into sports, and my
1769
01:31:35.819 --> 01:31:42.619
biggest heartbreak was the Raiders Steelers, and it was 6-7,
1770
01:31:42.659 --> 01:31:45.199
and the Raiders were going to the Super Bowl, and
1771
01:31:45.220 --> 01:31:49.600
I was so excited, and that ball hit. Jack Tatum
1772
01:31:49.619 --> 01:31:53.079
hit the receiver, and then the ball bounced into Franco.
1773
01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:53.520
Harris' hands.
1774
01:31:53.699 --> 01:31:56.680
Oh, yeah. He walked in the end zone.
1775
01:31:56.840 --> 01:31:59.739
Listen, before I put— I read Jack Tatum's biography, and
1776
01:31:59.800 --> 01:32:01.020
he hated Franco Harris.
1777
01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:03.340
I'm not going to repeat what he called Franco Harris.
1778
01:32:03.399 --> 01:32:03.920
No problem.
1779
01:32:03.939 --> 01:32:05.810
He said he was walking into the hotline.
1780
01:32:06.050 --> 01:32:08.470
No problem, but if you want to ruin your childhood,
1781
01:32:08.609 --> 01:32:10.270
before I put Jimmy James on, I just want to
1782
01:32:10.310 --> 01:32:11.609
throw this in, and then I'm going to shut up
1783
01:32:11.670 --> 01:32:13.909
and let Jimmy talk to this new communism or whatever
1784
01:32:13.949 --> 01:32:14.310
he wants.
1785
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.180
Yeah, he should embrace it. He might. I mean, he
1786
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:19.840
may not embrace communism, but, you know, he's got great
1787
01:32:19.899 --> 01:32:20.380
legs there.
1788
01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:24.039
He might embrace he might embrace the mockery and cartoonish,
1789
01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:26.380
but I don't know. We'll find out from him. But
1790
01:32:26.619 --> 01:32:28.600
if you ever want to ruin your childhood, Danny, you
1791
01:32:28.619 --> 01:32:32.539
can look up something. They they reedited some literal footage
1792
01:32:32.619 --> 01:32:36.579
from Davy and Goliath. And and they put stuff in
1793
01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:39.100
there because at one point, like Goliath is playing with
1794
01:32:39.159 --> 01:32:43.260
another dog. And the way it looks is like Goliath
1795
01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:44.880
is trying to mount the other dog.
1796
01:32:44.899 --> 01:32:47.079
Oh, no. No.
1797
01:32:47.659 --> 01:32:53.220
And they redid the soundtrack, and it almost seems legit. Like, well, Davey,
1798
01:32:53.340 --> 01:32:55.750
I guess Jesus would like it if I humped this
1799
01:32:55.850 --> 01:32:58.869
other dog. And you might want to watch that.
1800
01:32:58.890 --> 01:33:01.380
Oh, no.
1801
01:33:02.909 --> 01:33:05.840
Years ago, like literally a decade ago, I found that
1802
01:33:05.979 --> 01:33:09.199
accidentally on YouTube and I was like, that's hilarious. But,
1803
01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:12.300
you know, they made a whole. And one last thing,
1804
01:33:12.340 --> 01:33:13.960
if you want to ruin your childhood a little more,
1805
01:33:14.739 --> 01:33:19.600
they made a show on Adult Swim, which was like
1806
01:33:19.779 --> 01:33:23.880
this absolutely completely farcical version of Davy and Goliath. It's
1807
01:33:23.899 --> 01:33:30.300
called Moral Oral, which the oral is the kid who
1808
01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:36.329
is basically Davy. In the scenario. And he is a
1809
01:33:36.529 --> 01:33:41.229
radical member of the Jews for Jesus sect. And the
1810
01:33:41.310 --> 01:33:44.229
whole thing is crazy what goes on on there. And
1811
01:33:44.250 --> 01:33:48.310
it is like a complete, like absolute twisted mockery of
1812
01:33:48.350 --> 01:33:50.939
Davy and Goliath. And it ran for many seasons on
1813
01:33:50.979 --> 01:33:53.779
Adult Swim. So if you want to discover those things
1814
01:33:53.939 --> 01:33:56.500
and ruin your image in your mind of Davy and Goliath.
1815
01:33:56.539 --> 01:33:56.659
Yeah.
1816
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:01.140
I'm gonna pass but i used to watch thank you
1817
01:34:01.180 --> 01:34:02.539
but no thank you no problem i.
1818
01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:05.239
Used to watch moral oral because i i found it
1819
01:34:05.470 --> 01:34:10.170
hilarious and my favorite episode is where oral thinks that
1820
01:34:10.229 --> 01:34:12.670
he's doing a good thing and gets hooked on crack
1821
01:34:13.890 --> 01:34:17.119
um and he's like stealing from everybody and he's all
1822
01:34:17.180 --> 01:34:20.140
shaky and he's a crackhead and he's going around thinking
1823
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:22.819
he's doing good things for people and winds up even
1824
01:34:22.979 --> 01:34:27.710
offering to uh Oral winds up offering oral to a
1825
01:34:28.090 --> 01:34:30.989
grown man in order to get his next hit of crack.
1826
01:34:31.909 --> 01:34:35.409
There's more to that episode and it's hilarious in my mind.
1827
01:34:36.300 --> 01:34:39.899
Have you seen the new South Park with South America now?
1828
01:34:40.359 --> 01:34:41.779
No. Is there a new episode?
1829
01:34:42.819 --> 01:34:45.380
Yeah, it's a new episode. They renamed it South America.
1830
01:34:45.420 --> 01:34:47.560
The sign where it says South Park, it's got.
1831
01:34:47.380 --> 01:34:48.220
America on there.
1832
01:34:48.460 --> 01:34:49.890
Oh, so now it's South America.
1833
01:34:50.470 --> 01:34:53.569
My son showed it to me today. He showed Cartman
1834
01:34:53.609 --> 01:34:55.149
running on one of those e-bikes.
1835
01:34:56.829 --> 01:34:58.369
Cartman on e-bikes, bad news.
1836
01:34:58.689 --> 01:35:01.430
Okay, I got to check that out. But anyway, let's
1837
01:35:01.470 --> 01:35:05.029
get Jimmy James on before he jumps through his own
1838
01:35:05.090 --> 01:35:10.109
phone to yell at me. I'll leave you both on. Jimmy,
1839
01:35:10.170 --> 01:35:11.090
you're live. Go ahead.
1840
01:35:14.270 --> 01:35:21.170
Yeah, no given communism, it's 10,000th chance that's over with. Now,
1841
01:35:21.229 --> 01:35:26.409
as far as Natasha and what's his name, Squirrel and Moose.
1842
01:35:26.569 --> 01:35:27.270
Boris, yeah.
1843
01:35:27.289 --> 01:35:31.289
They're already out there. You got AOC and Bernie the Red.
1844
01:35:31.609 --> 01:35:34.409
That's literally them. What's the difference?
1845
01:35:35.409 --> 01:35:35.770
Okay.
1846
01:35:35.949 --> 01:35:40.609
Well, they're not offering public yachts or public limousines.
1847
01:35:40.689 --> 01:35:42.550
Can you imagine getting on the Great Lakes with a
1848
01:35:42.569 --> 01:35:43.569
public yacht, Jimmy?
1849
01:35:47.609 --> 01:35:52.069
I think I would rather retain my border security and
1850
01:35:52.609 --> 01:35:58.090
safety and the government stay out of everything else. They
1851
01:35:58.130 --> 01:36:00.119
don't seem to be very good at it.
1852
01:36:01.689 --> 01:36:05.119
The biggest thing that ticks me off about Bernie Sanders
1853
01:36:05.340 --> 01:36:10.239
is for years he complained about millionaires. And now that
1854
01:36:10.300 --> 01:36:14.199
he's a millionaire, all we hear him complain about is billionaires.
1855
01:36:15.050 --> 01:36:18.149
I mean, when are people going to finally kill Bernie?
1856
01:36:18.260 --> 01:36:20.479
I also complain about the trillionaires.
1857
01:36:21.020 --> 01:36:23.420
The billionaires and the trillionaires.
1858
01:36:25.649 --> 01:36:27.090
See, that's ridiculous.
1859
01:36:27.170 --> 01:36:33.300
He's so disingenuous. Anyone who is making more money than
1860
01:36:33.340 --> 01:36:34.720
me is a problem.
1861
01:36:34.819 --> 01:36:37.640
Anybody who's making more money than me, we need to
1862
01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:44.000
really sit down and talk about this holacarchy. Another $ 59. 95
1863
01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:44.619
and I can join.
1864
01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:48.520
I am just one of you, a regular billionaire that
1865
01:36:48.659 --> 01:36:52.119
is here. No, not quite a billionaire. I'm aspiring to
1866
01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:55.479
be a billionaire. I am just a lowly millionaire. And
1867
01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:58.939
we should all be so grateful that we are all millionaires.
1868
01:37:00.689 --> 01:37:01.479
God knows.
1869
01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:05.699
If you want a good laugh, have you seen Larry
1870
01:37:05.739 --> 01:37:07.380
David do Bernie Sanders?
1871
01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:10.039
Yes. That's pretty good.
1872
01:37:10.060 --> 01:37:12.920
Yeah, that's great.
1873
01:37:15.260 --> 01:37:17.619
It's not quite as good as Baldwin's Trump to me,
1874
01:37:17.729 --> 01:37:24.550
but it's almost there. Almost there. Yeah, I mean almost.
1875
01:37:24.609 --> 01:37:25.920
I don't like that new guy they got doing it.
1876
01:37:25.930 --> 01:37:29.670
Baldwin's Trump had every reason why it could have been funny.
1877
01:37:30.609 --> 01:37:34.500
But instead it destroyed the show because the man hated
1878
01:37:34.979 --> 01:37:36.520
the character he was playing.
1879
01:37:37.140 --> 01:37:37.840
What a moron.
1880
01:37:37.939 --> 01:37:41.029
Well, the new guy that they have doing Trump is A,
1881
01:37:41.300 --> 01:37:45.819
too skinny, and B, it's not as good. He's not
1882
01:37:45.899 --> 01:37:47.819
as funny, no matter what they write for him. He
1883
01:37:47.859 --> 01:37:52.130
just naturally does not have that. You know, when Baldwin
1884
01:37:52.149 --> 01:37:55.310
was playing the character and he was being loose about it,
1885
01:37:55.529 --> 01:37:59.229
it was pretty funny. But it's not funny with this
1886
01:37:59.270 --> 01:38:00.069
new guy. I don't like him.
1887
01:38:01.270 --> 01:38:03.010
Have you seen the Shane Gillis Trump?
1888
01:38:04.149 --> 01:38:05.710
Uh, Shane Gillis does a Trump.
1889
01:38:06.630 --> 01:38:09.590
No, he does a Trump. It's, it's pretty good.
1890
01:38:09.850 --> 01:38:13.180
Hmm. Well, first of all, you got to get some, look,
1891
01:38:13.239 --> 01:38:15.359
it doesn't have to be exact, but it's gotta be
1892
01:38:15.380 --> 01:38:17.720
the kind of thing where automatically, you know, it's Trump.
1893
01:38:17.899 --> 01:38:21.039
You know what I mean? Like, and, and the skinny
1894
01:38:21.100 --> 01:38:24.750
Trump guy they got now is no good. Uh, you know,
1895
01:38:25.489 --> 01:38:28.149
at least Baldwin had the extra chin and everything, you
1896
01:38:28.189 --> 01:38:29.869
know what I mean? So he could get like the,
1897
01:38:30.119 --> 01:38:32.970
turkey neck effect of being older and he is older.
1898
01:38:33.020 --> 01:38:37.810
So therefore it worked. But this new guy looks too young. Yeah.
1899
01:38:37.869 --> 01:38:41.250
They made him look enough like him. He could speak
1900
01:38:41.329 --> 01:38:42.300
enough like him.
1901
01:38:42.970 --> 01:38:45.590
It had every reason to work. Right.
1902
01:38:45.630 --> 01:38:48.430
But it was just so obvious that he hated the man.
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01:38:48.449 --> 01:38:51.609
There was nothing funny about it to me. Never.
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01:38:51.770 --> 01:38:53.880
Well, that's sort of like what happened with Whoopi Goldberg.
1905
01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:57.979
When Whoopi Goldberg did, you know, her characters on Broadway,
1906
01:38:58.140 --> 01:39:02.060
she was actually entertaining and funny. When she went into
1907
01:39:02.119 --> 01:39:06.000
politics all the time, I mean, South Park's representation of
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01:39:06.020 --> 01:39:10.819
her is perfect. I'm Whoopi Goldberg. Republicans are so stupid.
1909
01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:17.020
You know what else? Republicans are so stupid. I mean,
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01:39:17.420 --> 01:39:22.159
literally ruined, ruined any shot at being funny with her politics.
1911
01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:25.829
Whoopi Goldberg. But when she started out, when she was
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01:39:25.989 --> 01:39:28.090
like kind of unknown and they put her on Broadway
1913
01:39:28.130 --> 01:39:31.789
or off Broadway with the, you know, with the different characters,
1914
01:39:31.810 --> 01:39:36.180
like a night with these different characters. It was entertaining and,
1915
01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:38.359
you know, she could weave in some politics. But when
1916
01:39:38.399 --> 01:39:40.850
she went full on, you know, sticking her thumb on
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01:39:40.890 --> 01:39:44.470
the scale with political crap, it was garbage. Very few
1918
01:39:44.789 --> 01:39:48.380
very few stand up comedians in my mind can really
1919
01:39:48.420 --> 01:39:50.920
get into the politics of something and do it well
1920
01:39:51.100 --> 01:39:55.579
and still be funny. You know, Bill Hicks, I always
1921
01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:56.640
look at him as great.
1922
01:39:56.699 --> 01:39:58.699
Bill Hicks is good. Bill Hicks is generally good.
1923
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And not saying I even agree with everything Bill Hicks said,
1924
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but I agree with the core message. And it doesn't
1925
01:40:04.489 --> 01:40:08.229
matter if I agree. He was still funny. You know,
1926
01:40:08.270 --> 01:40:12.500
there's a couple of conservative guys that I find really funny, too. Um,
1927
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but they're not as well known. They're just not. Uh,
1928
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and there's, you know, some of these guys that are,
1929
01:40:17.050 --> 01:40:20.470
you know, clear Democrats too are also funny, but when
1930
01:40:20.510 --> 01:40:22.869
they get too deep into it, Jimmy's right. When you
1931
01:40:22.890 --> 01:40:26.060
get like too much into the hatred, uh, end of it,
1932
01:40:26.250 --> 01:40:28.560
you know what, uh, comedy and hate, you can have
1933
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:30.800
a little bit of hate in your comedy, but if
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01:40:30.819 --> 01:40:33.119
you focus on the hate too much, it just becomes hate.
1935
01:40:33.220 --> 01:40:35.979
It's no longer comedy. Would you agree with that, Jimmy?
1936
01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:39.819
Yeah.
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I mean, I, The audience knows, and if they respond
1938
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to it, they just won't watch.
1939
01:40:46.460 --> 01:40:50.449
Right, and that new Trump guy, I swear, sucks. I
1940
01:40:50.489 --> 01:40:53.029
want to laugh at some stuff, and the way it's written,
1941
01:40:53.130 --> 01:40:57.140
it makes sense, but this guy, it's terrible. It's just terrible.
1942
01:40:57.180 --> 01:41:01.409
He's not the right guy for the job. Dana Carvey doing.
1943
01:41:01.449 --> 01:41:05.630
George Bush was great.
1944
01:41:05.829 --> 01:41:09.729
It was absolutely great, but it wasn't about hatred. It
1945
01:41:09.789 --> 01:41:11.529
was just a caricature.
1946
01:41:11.689 --> 01:41:12.449
It was funny.
1947
01:41:12.489 --> 01:41:16.810
It was funny, right. That's the thing. If you hate
1948
01:41:16.970 --> 01:41:18.810
Bush and you go to do that, you're going to
1949
01:41:18.829 --> 01:41:22.989
suck at it. You just are. The one guy I
1950
01:41:23.029 --> 01:41:24.789
had on the show, I can't remember his name, but
1951
01:41:24.810 --> 01:41:27.449
he's got a twin brother. His first name is Eric.
1952
01:41:27.510 --> 01:41:30.689
I had him on this show, a comedian. maybe like
1953
01:41:30.729 --> 01:41:34.369
four years ago, who was doing Trump and actually went
1954
01:41:34.449 --> 01:41:38.479
to one of the Republican conventions and Trump even like said, oh,
1955
01:41:38.539 --> 01:41:43.220
I like you at one of the Republican conventions, even
1956
01:41:43.239 --> 01:41:45.479
though he was mocking him, like he was overly fat
1957
01:41:45.579 --> 01:41:47.720
and everything else, you know, like fatter than Trump and
1958
01:41:47.779 --> 01:41:53.289
all that and exaggerated. It was funny. And that guy,
1959
01:41:53.430 --> 01:41:58.289
his literal political position was actually pro-Trump in a way.
1960
01:41:59.180 --> 01:42:02.180
But he was still doing the comedy of it, you know,
1961
01:42:02.380 --> 01:42:04.460
but it wasn't about hate. And it came off way
1962
01:42:04.479 --> 01:42:06.520
better than some of these guys that are getting exorbitant
1963
01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:10.659
salaries to play Trump on things. I liked my cartoon president, too,
1964
01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:16.119
which is a Stephen Colbert thing. But Stephen Colbert by himself,
1965
01:42:16.220 --> 01:42:18.560
not so funny. Now, he's working with a team making
1966
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:20.979
a cartoon. I thought it was pretty good. And my
1967
01:42:21.020 --> 01:42:23.989
favorite part of the cartoon was Ted Cruz. Sorry, Ted
1968
01:42:24.029 --> 01:42:25.510
Cruz showing up just every once in a while.
1969
01:42:25.630 --> 01:42:26.449
Ted Cruz.
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01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:31.199
What did you want from BP? I'm sorry. Go ahead.
1971
01:42:35.579 --> 01:42:39.739
You asked BP something, Jimmy? Go ahead. I stepped on you.
1972
01:42:39.939 --> 01:42:43.960
No, we need to bring back DC Follies.
1973
01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:48.859
Oh, DC Follies. Okay. DC Follies. I thought you said BP.
1974
01:42:48.899 --> 01:42:51.079
My mistake. You know, I got this fucking ringing in
1975
01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:52.699
my ear. It's driving me crazy. Sorry.
1976
01:42:57.470 --> 01:43:01.029
Oh, that's a great show. I can't believe you didn't
1977
01:43:01.060 --> 01:43:03.439
see that. Late 80s, early 90s.
1978
01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:07.500
There's only like one real human and everyone else was
1979
01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:11.760
a puppet. And it was like Richie Nixon, Jimmy Carter,
1980
01:43:12.270 --> 01:43:17.050
Margaret Thatcher, for some reason, Jack Nicholson.
1981
01:43:17.789 --> 01:43:20.010
You see, I used to watch Spitting Image, which I
1982
01:43:20.029 --> 01:43:24.909
think was the British version of that. You ever see
1983
01:43:24.949 --> 01:43:25.810
Spitting Image.
1984
01:43:25.609 --> 01:43:26.649
With the puppets?
1985
01:43:26.689 --> 01:43:28.109
Yeah, except way newer.
1986
01:43:28.170 --> 01:43:30.250
They just ripped off DC Pops.
1987
01:43:30.609 --> 01:43:33.609
Well, maybe. But Spitting Image I watched, and it had
1988
01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:36.060
all those people that you mentioned, those political figures and
1989
01:43:36.119 --> 01:43:40.079
Reagan and everything, and it was a British program. So
1990
01:43:40.100 --> 01:43:42.760
there Margaret Thatcher spent a lot more time on screen
1991
01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:45.260
than probably other ones did. But it was another one
1992
01:43:45.300 --> 01:43:48.039
of those puppets where they had the exaggerated Muppet look.
1993
01:43:49.300 --> 01:43:54.949
Yeah, well, that's like this. And oddly enough, Jack Nicholson
1994
01:43:54.989 --> 01:43:59.439
was always trying to get with Margaret Thatcher on the
1995
01:43:59.500 --> 01:44:00.239
puppet show.
1996
01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:01.939
He kept chasing her out.
1997
01:44:02.359 --> 01:44:03.739
Come on, Maggie.
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01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:07.739
You know you want it. And she's like running around going,
1999
01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:10.340
get off me, you beastly mom.
2000
01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:13.949
And the Jack Nicholson's puppet's eyes were so drawn back.
2001
01:44:14.010 --> 01:44:16.189
It was so funny because later on in life, he
2002
01:44:16.229 --> 01:44:19.199
started to look like that for real. But the puppet
2003
01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:21.199
was way ahead of its time with like how far
2004
01:44:21.260 --> 01:44:23.819
back his eyes were drawn. Wait till they get a
2005
01:44:23.920 --> 01:44:26.899
load of me. You know, the whole Joker look of
2006
01:44:26.939 --> 01:44:30.649
the eyes pulled way back. Hilarious. Almost like he had
2007
01:44:30.670 --> 01:44:35.130
his ponytail cranked on with a freaking vice. Look into
2008
01:44:35.149 --> 01:44:37.069
the puppet. And later on in life, he started to
2009
01:44:37.130 --> 01:44:40.369
actually look like that puppet more and more. But it
2010
01:44:40.409 --> 01:44:42.880
was ahead of its time. And I think the Jack
2011
01:44:42.909 --> 01:44:45.920
Nicholson puppet on Spitting Image did the same thing. By
2012
01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:47.659
the way, it's probably one of them is a ripoff
2013
01:44:47.699 --> 01:44:54.760
of the other. I don't know which. Anyway, puppet shows. Yes,
2014
01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:57.909
the puppet shows are fun at least. And they don't
2015
01:44:57.949 --> 01:44:59.789
make decisions for you. Or maybe they do.
2016
01:44:59.810 --> 01:45:00.449
Uh-oh.
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Anyways, yeah, so Danny, your thoughts on DC Follies. Go ahead.
2018
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I never, I do not recall. I don't remember. When
2019
01:45:12.409 --> 01:45:13.229
was that show on?
2020
01:45:13.449 --> 01:45:14.460
Do you remember Spitting Image?
2021
01:45:14.479 --> 01:45:14.560
Yeah.
2022
01:45:15.939 --> 01:45:16.140
Nope.
2023
01:45:17.039 --> 01:45:20.859
Ah, forget that spitting image. That's like early 2000s, Joe.
2024
01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:25.199
This was late 80s, early 90s.
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01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:29.680
If it was on, though, I worked so much nights
2026
01:45:29.819 --> 01:45:32.800
and so on Orthodox hours, I missed a lot of
2027
01:45:32.840 --> 01:45:33.479
the show.
2028
01:45:33.510 --> 01:45:36.010
No, spitting image I watched as a teenager, Jimmy. That
2029
01:45:36.029 --> 01:45:40.609
was on in the 80s, too. Because it had Ronald Reagan.
2030
01:45:40.689 --> 01:45:42.060
I was working my ass off.
2031
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:46.500
All right, well, the BBC filing tripped off the BBC.
2032
01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:48.279
It wouldn't be the first time.
2033
01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:50.300
Well, I mean, that's why I said it could have
2034
01:45:50.319 --> 01:45:52.420
went either way. One of them probably is ripping off
2035
01:45:52.460 --> 01:45:54.960
the other, but I don't know which. Because I saw that.
2036
01:45:55.359 --> 01:45:57.119
I know I saw that right after I got out
2037
01:45:57.159 --> 01:46:00.979
of jail, and that's me at 15. So, you know,
2038
01:46:01.140 --> 01:46:03.539
I definitely sat and watched that. I discovered it late
2039
01:46:03.560 --> 01:46:05.880
at night on a cable channel.
2040
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:09.869
You know who put that on? Who? Sid and Marty Kroft.
2041
01:46:10.689 --> 01:46:14.560
There you go. You know, and they were responsible for
2042
01:46:14.579 --> 01:46:19.350
a lot of interesting puppets, Sid and Marty Kroft. In
2043
01:46:19.380 --> 01:46:22.659
the 70s, 80s, into the 90s.
2044
01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:26.380
It was syndicated, ran from 87 to 89. It was
2045
01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:29.000
set in D.C. bar where a bartender played by Fred
2046
01:46:29.020 --> 01:46:34.079
Willard would welcome public caricatures of politicians and popular culture figures.
2047
01:46:34.279 --> 01:46:34.520
Cool.
2048
01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:36.539
Can you look up Spitting Image and see if it
2049
01:46:36.579 --> 01:46:39.199
came before or after that? Because Spitting Image has to
2050
01:46:39.239 --> 01:46:41.510
be around in 87 because I know I watched it
2051
01:46:41.670 --> 01:46:45.750
when I was 17. Yeah, I definitely watched it when
2052
01:46:45.789 --> 01:46:49.930
I was 17 and 15. even so that makes it
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01:46:49.930 --> 01:46:52.810
1987 as well just for those keeping score at.
2054
01:46:52.789 --> 01:47:02.359
Home yeah spitting image it ran from from 84 to.
2055
01:47:02.260 --> 01:47:04.279
96 see i told you it had to be around
2056
01:47:04.340 --> 01:47:08.000
in uh 87 yeah okay so i was three years
2057
01:47:08.060 --> 01:47:10.390
behind when i saw it all right fair enough you know.
2058
01:47:11.859 --> 01:47:13.020
That explains a lot.
2059
01:47:13.550 --> 01:47:14.850
And it predates D.C.
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01:47:14.890 --> 01:47:15.090
Follies.
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01:47:15.109 --> 01:47:15.470
Sorry, go ahead.
2062
01:47:19.869 --> 01:47:23.909
Yeah, no, I had a, by 87, I had a five-year-old,
2063
01:47:23.949 --> 01:47:27.010
a four-year-old, and a two-year-old, and I was working or
2064
01:47:27.050 --> 01:47:29.930
with the kids, or doing kids shows, so I didn't
2065
01:47:29.949 --> 01:47:32.789
watch anything adult or anything like that, so.
2066
01:47:32.829 --> 01:47:33.550
Well, there you go.
2067
01:47:33.569 --> 01:47:35.060
That explains why I never saw it.
2068
01:47:35.210 --> 01:47:37.529
Well, late at night, I was sucking up TV because
2069
01:47:37.600 --> 01:47:39.239
I had just gotten out of jail, and I had
2070
01:47:39.260 --> 01:47:42.899
been in juvenile detention, so, you know, 1987 is a
2071
01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:46.279
year I was watching a lot of TV. Um, you know,
2072
01:47:46.500 --> 01:47:48.619
once I got out, uh, just saying.
2073
01:47:48.729 --> 01:47:50.829
All I did was work. All I did was work
2074
01:47:50.869 --> 01:47:51.529
and raise kids.
2075
01:47:51.649 --> 01:47:54.890
So, yeah, I was, I was putting in work. I
2076
01:47:54.909 --> 01:47:56.409
was putting in work too, but I was being a
2077
01:47:56.430 --> 01:47:58.850
musician and I was trying to go to school. And
2078
01:47:58.890 --> 01:48:00.489
that's when they made me take an extra year of
2079
01:48:00.510 --> 01:48:05.159
high school. Cause they didn't accept my credits from juvenile detention. Uh, but, uh,
2080
01:48:05.300 --> 01:48:06.819
I was staying up late at night cause I didn't
2081
01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:10.039
sleep well after I got out of lockup, uh, for
2082
01:48:10.079 --> 01:48:12.600
a long time. So, you know, it was just one
2083
01:48:12.619 --> 01:48:14.649
of those things I would watch everything on in the
2084
01:48:14.670 --> 01:48:16.510
middle of the night. That's why I also watched a
2085
01:48:16.550 --> 01:48:19.119
lot of the commercials uh when somebody brought up uh
2086
01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:22.359
recently on a thursday show the the guy uh brad
2087
01:48:22.380 --> 01:48:25.199
brought up the flobie i think and i was like
2088
01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:27.270
oh yeah i remember that thing it was like you
2089
01:48:27.279 --> 01:48:29.449
hook it up to your vacuum cleaner it sucks up
2090
01:48:29.510 --> 01:48:31.369
your hair and then it's supposed to cut it and
2091
01:48:31.390 --> 01:48:36.829
it was wacky as hell yeah yeah the flobie Uh,
2092
01:48:37.029 --> 01:48:39.180
screw that thing. I ain't lending nowhere near my head,
2093
01:48:39.300 --> 01:48:40.699
but you know, you want to hook stuff up to
2094
01:48:40.739 --> 01:48:42.939
your vacuum cleaner and start, you know, trying to do
2095
01:48:42.979 --> 01:48:44.960
things on your body. I mean, uh, look, it's a
2096
01:48:44.979 --> 01:48:48.310
free country, but, uh, don't get me involved. That's all
2097
01:48:48.409 --> 01:48:53.329
I'm saying. I don't care if it's that or something else. Uh, anyway, imagination,
2098
01:48:53.369 --> 01:48:57.930
go ahead and use it. But, okay, so, yeah, apparently, though, Jimmy,
2099
01:48:58.170 --> 01:49:02.310
Spitting Image predated DC Follies. But now that BP mentioned it,
2100
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:05.699
Fred Willard being the bartender, I do remember that as well.
2101
01:49:06.520 --> 01:49:08.680
Remember Fred Willard being the bartender, Jimmy?
2102
01:49:11.729 --> 01:49:13.060
Yeah, I remember the show, too.
2103
01:49:13.970 --> 01:49:16.310
Yeah, so you remember that?
2104
01:49:16.609 --> 01:49:21.430
I remember one where Jimmy Carter kept laughing at Nixon
2105
01:49:21.489 --> 01:49:25.350
because Nixon said his library was a bookmobile.
2106
01:49:25.810 --> 01:49:29.069
Yeah, there you go. But they had Nixon on there still. Yeah,
2107
01:49:29.130 --> 01:49:31.029
I mean, you know, it's the 80s. So these people
2108
01:49:31.069 --> 01:49:33.649
were still, you know, alive and relevant. So, you know.
2109
01:49:36.359 --> 01:49:40.270
.
2110
01:49:39.670 --> 01:49:42.789

2111
01:49:42.890 --> 01:49:46.970

2112
01:49:47.090 --> 01:49:48.189
Right.
2113
01:49:48.250 --> 01:49:50.449
Well, it seems.
2114
01:49:50.170 --> 01:49:58.060
There was some disparity with the finances, some money there misplaced.
2115
01:49:58.239 --> 01:49:59.359
Yeah, why not?
2116
01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:08.800
You know, um, That time period reminds me of there
2117
01:50:08.819 --> 01:50:11.800
was a show on HBO called Not Necessarily the News,
2118
01:50:14.039 --> 01:50:16.819
which I also enjoyed. And they used to run late
2119
01:50:16.859 --> 01:50:20.449
at night, you know, in reruns around that time period, too.
2120
01:50:23.149 --> 01:50:24.949
That was kind of funny. You know, they do different
2121
01:50:24.989 --> 01:50:30.710
things with news clips. I found it entertaining. It was
2122
01:50:30.729 --> 01:50:34.180
an HBO thing. Probably hardly anybody remembers it. Except that
2123
01:50:34.380 --> 01:50:38.090
people might remember Sniglets. Richard Hall was the host for
2124
01:50:38.109 --> 01:50:43.029
the Sniglets, you know, portion of that show. And Sniglets
2125
01:50:43.069 --> 01:50:48.220
was like new words that are being introduced or combinations
2126
01:50:48.270 --> 01:50:50.300
of words that now people are going to start using.
2127
01:50:51.039 --> 01:50:54.539
I think Sniglets. Anybody remember that, Danny?
2128
01:50:56.220 --> 01:50:58.979
No, but I do remember it was the around that
2129
01:50:59.060 --> 01:51:03.319
time it was the birth of the Simpsons. It was
2130
01:51:03.579 --> 01:51:08.829
the Tracy Ullman show. I remember seeing that. And it
2131
01:51:08.869 --> 01:51:12.159
was like, they kind of liked it as... They ran
2132
01:51:12.180 --> 01:51:14.960
it once, and The Simpsons grew a life of its own.
2133
01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:19.270
Well, The Simpsons ran like five, six times, I think,
2134
01:51:19.329 --> 01:51:21.529
on The Tracy Ullman Show, but just as one of
2135
01:51:21.609 --> 01:51:27.229
the many little segments. And their drawing style and everything
2136
01:51:27.310 --> 01:51:30.180
is really rudimentary compared to what we ended up with
2137
01:51:30.220 --> 01:51:33.060
for the animated series. But it did inspire the animated series,
2138
01:51:33.140 --> 01:51:36.300
which I don't remember when The Simpsons started to air.
2139
01:51:37.649 --> 01:51:39.729
Beep Beep could look it up, but it's either 89
2140
01:51:39.729 --> 01:51:41.649
or 90, I think, is like their first.
2141
01:51:42.630 --> 01:51:45.390
Well, they were part of the Tracy Ullman show there
2142
01:51:45.430 --> 01:51:45.970
for a while.
2143
01:51:46.250 --> 01:51:50.170
Right. But there's only like a handful of segments that
2144
01:51:50.210 --> 01:51:52.770
are like 10 minutes long at most from the Tracy
2145
01:51:52.850 --> 01:51:53.399
Ullman show.
2146
01:51:53.489 --> 01:51:56.380
So what I really want to know, then, is does
2147
01:51:56.479 --> 01:51:59.500
Tracy Ullman get a cut to this day?
2148
01:52:00.340 --> 01:52:03.420
Well, you know what? She's talked about making a mistake
2149
01:52:03.479 --> 01:52:06.560
there because she thought it was completely stupid and pointless
2150
01:52:06.619 --> 01:52:12.310
and unnecessary for her brilliant show. And Fox executives disagreed
2151
01:52:12.829 --> 01:52:16.069
and ran with it. So I think she got cut out.
2152
01:52:16.649 --> 01:52:20.770
She said later I heard her talk about, yeah, I started,
2153
01:52:20.869 --> 01:52:26.119
I created, she said something about, yeah, I started the Simpsons.
2154
01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:28.199
I breastfed all of them. I remember she made a
2155
01:52:28.239 --> 01:52:29.000
comment like that.
2156
01:52:29.689 --> 01:52:33.779
Let's see. It debuted on December 17th, 1989. Yeah, I
2157
01:52:34.140 --> 01:52:37.060
knew it was 1989. 109 episodes.
2158
01:52:37.659 --> 01:52:38.359
Right.
2159
01:52:38.520 --> 01:52:39.579
It's been on 37 seasons.
2160
01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:45.260
If I'm not mistaken, it's the longest running syndicated television
2161
01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:46.960
show in history at this point.
2162
01:52:46.979 --> 01:52:53.159
Yeah, it said The Shorts. were part of the Tracy
2163
01:52:53.260 --> 01:53:00.630
Ullman show or began April 19, 1987. And after three seasons,
2164
01:53:01.489 --> 01:53:04.510
they developed the sketch into a half-hour show, and it
2165
01:53:04.550 --> 01:53:07.770
became Fox's first series to land in the top 30 ratings.
2166
01:53:08.270 --> 01:53:11.529
Right. And it was the first of many animation series
2167
01:53:11.590 --> 01:53:14.750
that Fox would later on succeed with. Because at that time,
2168
01:53:14.810 --> 01:53:17.909
Fox was still a floundering network until they got In
2169
01:53:17.949 --> 01:53:22.090
Living Color rolling and that show rolling. Uh, you know, that,
2170
01:53:22.149 --> 01:53:24.670
that was a dying network, uh, that, you know, it
2171
01:53:24.729 --> 01:53:27.810
had been freshly assembled, cobbled together from a whole bunch
2172
01:53:27.829 --> 01:53:32.680
of independent stations all over the country. Uh, the Fox stations, uh,
2173
01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:34.960
and that network, Rupert Murdoch's network there.
2174
01:53:36.100 --> 01:53:42.970
And, uh, they've won 37 primetime Emmy awards. 34 Annie Awards.
2175
01:53:43.310 --> 01:53:45.850
I'm not familiar with them.
2176
01:53:45.909 --> 01:53:48.789
Yeah, those are animation awards. But if it was not
2177
01:53:48.869 --> 01:53:52.460
for Ready, The Simpsons, In Living Color, and also the
2178
01:53:52.500 --> 01:53:57.239
comedy of Married with Children, they probably would have failed
2179
01:53:57.319 --> 01:53:59.260
as a network for those three shows.
2180
01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:02.579
Yeah, I knew the producer for Married with Children. He
2181
01:54:02.619 --> 01:54:03.479
was from Kinston.
2182
01:54:03.729 --> 01:54:05.670
You know what's funny about Married with Children? Do you
2183
01:54:05.710 --> 01:54:07.909
know why the Bundy family is named Bundy?
2184
01:54:09.229 --> 01:54:09.329
No.
2185
01:54:09.979 --> 01:54:16.090
They're named after King Kong Bundy, the wrestler who winds up. Yeah.
2186
01:54:16.229 --> 01:54:19.369
Who was from Jersey? I forget his real name, but
2187
01:54:19.409 --> 01:54:23.130
he was literally from Atlantic City, New Jersey. Nice guy.
2188
01:54:23.569 --> 01:54:27.449
And he he was literally like the inspiration for naming
2189
01:54:27.489 --> 01:54:30.119
them the Bundys. And at one point shows up as
2190
01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:34.579
a Bundy cousin. on the show makes at least two
2191
01:54:34.619 --> 01:54:37.510
cameos as cousin something Bundy. And I don't think it's
2192
01:54:37.529 --> 01:54:39.789
King Kong, but obviously it's King Kong Bundy when he
2193
01:54:39.810 --> 01:54:43.760
shows up. But it's like, here, here comes Herschel Bundy.
2194
01:54:44.600 --> 01:54:47.489
You know, one of our hillbilly relatives, and it's King
2195
01:54:47.529 --> 01:54:50.489
Kong freaking Bundy walking through the door, which he was
2196
01:54:50.510 --> 01:54:51.609
a big dude. Yeah, go ahead.
2197
01:54:52.289 --> 01:54:55.810
The executive producer, Michael Moy, he got his start by
2198
01:54:55.850 --> 01:54:59.510
winning the Norman Lear Award. Right. Where he wrote a
2199
01:54:59.689 --> 01:55:03.920
play called— I want to say it was called Tilt, but
2200
01:55:03.960 --> 01:55:10.399
it was about an elderly guy who— I think it
2201
01:55:10.420 --> 01:55:13.619
started out they somehow the government said he was dead
2202
01:55:14.319 --> 01:55:18.319
and screwed up his Social Security check. And then what
2203
01:55:18.359 --> 01:55:20.520
he went through trying to get that fixed.
2204
01:55:21.920 --> 01:55:23.439
But he won the award.
2205
01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:26.600
And part of the award was you got to write
2206
01:55:26.659 --> 01:55:30.180
for one of Norman Lear's shows. Yeah. And he picked
2207
01:55:30.199 --> 01:55:34.460
the Jeffersons. And he wrote an episode for the Jeffersons
2208
01:55:35.180 --> 01:55:38.989
and then got hired. as a rider for the Jeffersons,
2209
01:55:39.069 --> 01:55:41.899
and then after he left there, went on to start
2210
01:55:42.159 --> 01:55:42.960
Married with Children.
2211
01:55:43.260 --> 01:55:46.079
Right, and the original team that he put together, just
2212
01:55:46.119 --> 01:55:49.220
to this King Kong Bundy point one more time, a
2213
01:55:49.260 --> 01:55:53.680
whole lot of them were WWF fans, and their favorite
2214
01:55:53.720 --> 01:55:57.840
guy was King Kong Bundy, who was, you know, a heel.
2215
01:55:57.979 --> 01:56:00.939
I mean, he was featured in the second WrestleMania. He's
2216
01:56:01.079 --> 01:56:04.119
in the feature match in Hulk Hogan. You know, so
2217
01:56:04.729 --> 01:56:06.970
and again, it's just another Jersey guy I happen to
2218
01:56:07.010 --> 01:56:11.430
know of, you know, met him once. He was still
2219
01:56:11.470 --> 01:56:13.510
alive up until recently. I don't know if he died
2220
01:56:13.850 --> 01:56:16.949
or what, but he was still giving interviews even recent.
2221
01:56:17.510 --> 01:56:19.949
I want to say his first name is Chris. I
2222
01:56:19.970 --> 01:56:21.949
think his first name is Chris, if I remember right.
2223
01:56:23.229 --> 01:56:24.930
His real name, you know, his parents didn't name him
2224
01:56:25.010 --> 01:56:29.909
King Kong. And most famously, he was nicknamed the walking condominium.
2225
01:56:31.350 --> 01:56:33.609
because of all the condominiums being built in Jersey at
2226
01:56:33.649 --> 01:56:36.989
the time, quite frankly. And he was from Atlantic City, truly,
2227
01:56:37.489 --> 01:56:40.510
and lived right outside of Atlantic City up until very recently,
2228
01:56:40.569 --> 01:56:45.300
I'm sure. Fact, I know that. And, yeah, I met
2229
01:56:45.319 --> 01:56:48.979
him once. But nice guy, real, real nice guy. Huge dude,
2230
01:56:49.340 --> 01:56:52.579
but nice. Very nice guy. I knew Bam Bam a
2231
01:56:52.600 --> 01:56:55.119
little better. Bam Bam Bigelow, his real name was Scott.
2232
01:56:55.699 --> 01:56:57.649
He has passed away. I'm not sure. Has King Kong
2233
01:56:57.689 --> 01:56:59.789
Bundy died? Can you look that up, BP, real quick?
2234
01:57:00.569 --> 01:57:02.850
See if he has passed away, because I have this
2235
01:57:02.890 --> 01:57:05.289
feeling that he passed away not long ago, or maybe
2236
01:57:05.329 --> 01:57:06.949
he's had health... I know he's had a lot of
2237
01:57:06.970 --> 01:57:11.010
health issues over the past 10 years. But I don't
2238
01:57:11.029 --> 01:57:13.390
know if he didn't make it recently.
2239
01:57:16.170 --> 01:57:17.689
Oh, he died in 2019.
2240
01:57:17.689 --> 01:57:21.859
I'm sorry. Yeah, okay, sorry. Recently to me, six years ago.
2241
01:57:21.899 --> 01:57:25.300
Seven years ago, wow. Nice guy, though.
2242
01:57:27.479 --> 01:57:29.710
Christopher Allen... Paley's.
2243
01:57:29.770 --> 01:57:29.989
Yeah.
2244
01:57:30.010 --> 01:57:30.810
See, I knew it was Chris.
2245
01:57:31.430 --> 01:57:31.670
Yeah.
2246
01:57:31.750 --> 01:57:31.930
Right.
2247
01:57:32.449 --> 01:57:36.210
Paley's or Payless. You know, everybody pronounced it different. He
2248
01:57:36.229 --> 01:57:38.529
didn't bust balls because, you know, it wasn't a stage
2249
01:57:38.569 --> 01:57:41.680
name anyway. But yeah, Chris. See, I knew it was Chris.
2250
01:57:43.449 --> 01:57:46.020
And there you go. Nice guy. Very, very nice guy.
2251
01:57:46.420 --> 01:57:46.760
Sad.
2252
01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:47.180
Yeah.
2253
01:57:47.619 --> 01:57:49.979
I did not know he died in 2019. But, you know,
2254
01:57:50.020 --> 01:57:52.760
back when I still lived in Jersey, you could interact
2255
01:57:52.779 --> 01:57:54.460
with a lot of people if you knew where they were.
2256
01:57:54.479 --> 01:57:55.739
You hung out in certain circles.
2257
01:57:55.760 --> 01:57:56.079
Yeah.
2258
01:57:57.579 --> 01:57:59.760
Bam Bam was a local guy to me, and I
2259
01:57:59.779 --> 01:58:02.560
knew his brother, too. And so, you know, Scott and
2260
01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:05.819
his brother, his brother was larger than Scott, uh just
2261
01:58:05.840 --> 01:58:06.800
so everybody knows.
2262
01:58:08.560 --> 01:58:12.979
Well, in 1986, Cowleys appeared in television commercials and print
2263
01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:16.810
advertisements for the Vendex Head Start personal computer. Right. Bundy
2264
01:58:16.850 --> 01:58:20.189
had two guest spots, one big part on Married with Children,
2265
01:58:20.369 --> 01:58:23.529
as the creators had named the lead character's Bundy as
2266
01:58:23.569 --> 01:58:24.590
a homage to him.
2267
01:58:24.850 --> 01:58:26.850
See, I told you.
2268
01:58:26.909 --> 01:58:30.930
In 1987, he played Uncle Irwin, the brother of Peggy Bundy.
2269
01:58:31.189 --> 01:58:31.550
Okay.
2270
01:58:31.609 --> 01:58:35.229
And in 1995, he appeared again as King Kong Bundy character,
2271
01:58:35.300 --> 01:58:36.520
teaching Bud how to wrestle.
2272
01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:39.020
Right. See, I knew I knew he had showed up as,
2273
01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:42.340
you know, some relative there. See, and it's Uncle. But again, now,
2274
01:58:42.520 --> 01:58:42.960
Uncle what?
2275
01:58:44.140 --> 01:58:45.319
Uncle Erwin.
2276
01:58:45.579 --> 01:58:47.699
Uncle Erwin. See, I thought it was Herschel, but something
2277
01:58:47.720 --> 01:58:49.779
like that. You know what I mean? Like definitely shows
2278
01:58:49.859 --> 01:58:53.279
up as like the hillbilly relative of Peggy Bundy.
2279
01:58:54.569 --> 01:58:58.939
Complications from diabetes in his home in Glassboro, New Jersey,
2280
01:58:58.979 --> 01:59:01.439
at the age of 61. There you go.
2281
01:59:01.479 --> 01:59:05.819
Glassboro is a college town, nice sort of set-in-the-woods sort
2282
01:59:05.859 --> 01:59:10.439
of town in Jersey. But he used to live in
2283
01:59:10.579 --> 01:59:14.369
and around Atlantic City mostly. And they used to even,
2284
01:59:14.430 --> 01:59:18.930
as part of his official character, he was from Atlantic City,
2285
01:59:18.970 --> 01:59:19.409
New Jersey.
2286
01:59:20.310 --> 01:59:22.369
I did not know that he was on Weird Science.
2287
01:59:22.750 --> 01:59:22.869
Mm-hmm.
2288
01:59:23.729 --> 01:59:25.210
Yeah, he shows up during the party.
2289
01:59:26.409 --> 01:59:27.250
And boy means world.
2290
01:59:28.449 --> 01:59:30.180
Yeah, and you know what? That whole thing with that
2291
01:59:30.220 --> 01:59:33.399
computer company, that caused him a problem. Because, you know,
2292
01:59:33.739 --> 01:59:37.350
WWE gives jobs to these guys sometimes after they retire.
2293
01:59:38.189 --> 01:59:41.050
And they were willing to work with him, but apparently
2294
01:59:41.329 --> 01:59:44.729
they didn't grant him permission to go ahead and appear
2295
01:59:44.949 --> 01:59:51.489
in the computer campaign. And they cut off relations with
2296
01:59:51.529 --> 01:59:53.729
him and cut off, you know, giving him work because
2297
01:59:53.770 --> 01:59:57.109
of that, which kind of sucked, especially because he was
2298
01:59:57.149 --> 01:59:59.170
having a lot of health problems at the time. And
2299
01:59:59.189 --> 02:00:00.810
it was like, guys, you're cutting me off right when
2300
02:00:00.850 --> 02:00:04.220
I need money. And he was never a greedy guy.
2301
02:00:04.260 --> 02:00:07.279
He got underpaid for appearing in WrestleMania two and stuff.
2302
02:00:07.460 --> 02:00:11.000
I mean, big time. And I heard that from from
2303
02:00:11.039 --> 02:00:14.779
him directly. It's kind of a rough story. I don't
2304
02:00:14.800 --> 02:00:17.640
like the way the WWF and Vince McMahon treated this man,
2305
02:00:17.659 --> 02:00:20.159
to be honest with you. But Bam Bam, same kind
2306
02:00:20.199 --> 02:00:23.159
of thing where he didn't cooperate exactly. But Bam Bam
2307
02:00:23.199 --> 02:00:24.859
was a bit of a wild child. Chris is a
2308
02:00:24.899 --> 02:00:28.460
regular guy. You know, Bam Bam was hanging out with
2309
02:00:28.510 --> 02:00:31.739
bikers and drinking with idiots like me. So, you know,
2310
02:00:31.800 --> 02:00:34.619
Bam Bam was a wild card and definitely somebody was,
2311
02:00:34.659 --> 02:00:36.529
you know, going to find a way to destroy himself.
2312
02:00:36.729 --> 02:00:38.449
And you could have told him that before he ever
2313
02:00:38.489 --> 02:00:41.829
went in the WWF. You could have figured that one out.
2314
02:00:41.989 --> 02:00:44.310
But Chris was a regular guy. He just happened to
2315
02:00:44.329 --> 02:00:48.119
be gigantic in size and he wasn't bad. He could
2316
02:00:48.159 --> 02:00:50.000
move around. He wasn't just a fat guy showing up
2317
02:00:50.039 --> 02:00:52.840
being a fat guy. You know, he was a big
2318
02:00:52.880 --> 02:00:55.260
dude that could move around quite a bit and did,
2319
02:00:55.579 --> 02:01:00.050
you know, was good at his craft. Honestly, I thought. Um, and, uh,
2320
02:01:00.109 --> 02:01:01.750
and he had charisma to him, which is why they
2321
02:01:01.789 --> 02:01:05.229
gave him acting jobs. Bam Bam was in the movie. Um,
2322
02:01:05.689 --> 02:01:08.109
major pain, by the way, people forget about that. He
2323
02:01:08.149 --> 02:01:10.460
shows up as the biker that pain winds up beating up,
2324
02:01:11.180 --> 02:01:13.319
you know, the Damon Wayans character beats him up. Cause
2325
02:01:13.359 --> 02:01:17.979
he's the tough guy, drill Sergeant, the biker that shows up.
2326
02:01:18.260 --> 02:01:18.460
Yeah.
2327
02:01:18.479 --> 02:01:20.760
The kids that the kids go and hire a biker
2328
02:01:20.779 --> 02:01:23.069
to beat up their drill Sergeant for the.
2329
02:01:23.130 --> 02:01:27.779
ROTC listed on his credits for, um, All I've got
2330
02:01:27.840 --> 02:01:31.619
is the movie moving bill seat, which was a short
2331
02:01:31.689 --> 02:01:33.630
film card subject to change.
2332
02:01:33.689 --> 02:01:34.350
Oh, no, that's yeah.
2333
02:01:34.390 --> 02:01:35.729
That's a documentary.
2334
02:01:35.930 --> 02:01:37.170
That is King Kong Bundy.
2335
02:01:37.210 --> 02:01:37.409
Yeah.
2336
02:01:37.430 --> 02:01:39.869
I'm talking about Bam Bam Bigelow was in the movie.
2337
02:01:39.890 --> 02:01:40.390
Oh, OK.
2338
02:01:40.949 --> 02:01:44.569
Major pain. But no, but Chris was in that movie
2339
02:01:44.670 --> 02:01:45.689
with Richard Pryor.
2340
02:01:45.729 --> 02:01:45.930
Yeah.
2341
02:01:45.970 --> 02:01:46.229
Moving.
2342
02:01:48.149 --> 02:01:51.579
So, you know, he had acting skills a little bit.
2343
02:01:51.779 --> 02:01:53.140
You know, I'm not saying he was a great actor.
2344
02:01:53.180 --> 02:01:54.920
I'm just saying that he had some skills to show
2345
02:01:55.020 --> 02:01:56.720
up and do a lot of comedy stuff. He was
2346
02:01:56.739 --> 02:02:00.810
good at it. And yeah, the Married with Children people,
2347
02:02:00.829 --> 02:02:03.090
you see, you saw it confirmed there on Wikipedia. But
2348
02:02:03.130 --> 02:02:05.489
I just from my own memory know that that was
2349
02:02:05.569 --> 02:02:08.930
a thing. And he was actually happy and proud that
2350
02:02:09.250 --> 02:02:12.260
like the whole family was named after him. So he
2351
02:02:12.279 --> 02:02:15.539
was like, that's great. I'm part of television history. And
2352
02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:17.380
I even got to appear on there a couple of times.
2353
02:02:17.520 --> 02:02:21.039
You know, he was a nice guy, like I said. Anyways,
2354
02:02:22.939 --> 02:02:24.909
I did not know he died that long ago, though.
2355
02:02:24.930 --> 02:02:29.029
I thought it was more recent. Wow. Anyways, look, enough
2356
02:02:29.090 --> 02:02:31.590
of my rambling. Danny, anything you want to add in?
2357
02:02:31.630 --> 02:02:34.170
Because we are past that quarter after time. I said
2358
02:02:34.210 --> 02:02:36.060
I was going to cut off. We're about 20 after
2359
02:02:36.100 --> 02:02:38.600
the hour. But I do want to give last words
2360
02:02:38.659 --> 02:02:40.420
to you and Jimmy James before we're out of here.
2361
02:02:40.479 --> 02:02:41.380
So what do you got?
2362
02:02:41.399 --> 02:02:42.699
Hmm.
2363
02:02:44.760 --> 02:02:49.050
Well, just everybody just be good to each other. And, yeah,
2364
02:02:49.159 --> 02:02:52.829
there's people out there, you know, pitch in and help Chuck.
2365
02:02:53.770 --> 02:02:56.109
And you can call in, too. Come in here and,
2366
02:02:56.770 --> 02:02:59.149
you know, join up with the new communists, okay?
2367
02:02:59.729 --> 02:03:03.600
Well, there you go. That's Danny's two cents. And two
2368
02:03:03.609 --> 02:03:07.720
of those pennies might be rubles. How about that? I
2369
02:03:07.760 --> 02:03:10.399
don't know what to say. The new communism, let's make cartoons.
2370
02:03:11.260 --> 02:03:13.579
I say make a cartoon out of everything. I find
2371
02:03:13.640 --> 02:03:15.789
it funny. And I'm going to have to check out
2372
02:03:15.810 --> 02:03:18.369
if there's a new South Park. I just got told
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02:03:18.409 --> 02:03:20.729
that by Danny, which I find really unusual. So I'm
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going to have to go check that out. Anyways, Jimmy James,
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as per usual, the floor is yours. And I love
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your closing comments most almost every week because they almost
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always inevitably end at peace. And I appreciate that because
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that's where we should all be ascribing to reach for
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is a peaceful existence and coexistence in my mind. No
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matter how we get there, let's get there if we can. But,
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you know, but I'm not going to whatever you want
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to throw out. It's all yours, brother. Go ahead, Jimmy.
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Well, I just wanted I had to clarify something.
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I thought I heard Pete say, did he say.
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That Julian Assange grew up in Kenya? Did he know Obama?
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Did they grow up together?
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Did I hear that? I didn't hear that. BP, did
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you say he grew up in Kenya? I missed that.
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Who grew up in Kenya?
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Julian Assange.
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I don't know.
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Being from Australia.
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I thought he was from Australia, right?
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Let me see.
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Maybe I'm wrong. I could be very wrong. I just,
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that's where my head goes. I think that's where he's from,
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but where is he from?
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He's from Australia.
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Okay. Okay. So I don't think you said he was
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from Kenya though, right?
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No, no, no.
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I didn't say he was from Kenya.
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Okay.
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Sorry.
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Go ahead, Jimmy. There you go. You wanted a clarification.
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There it is.
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I must have misheard that.
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I just thought. Maybe if he grew up.
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In Kenya and Obama grew up in Kenya, I just
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thought maybe they'd bring it to each other, those rascals.
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Well, that would be interesting.
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Yeah, you never know.
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You never know. That's right.
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Yeah, Assange moved all over Australia. He said he lived
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in 30 Australian towns and cities during his childhood.
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There you go. So, Jimmy, your final word for the week.
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Go ahead, brother.
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Don't pet skunks.
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Peace.
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There you go. Don't pet skunks. And I would suggest
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to go even further with that. Don't pet skunks and
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don't take skunks as pets because eventually you're going to
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stink at it. Anyway, BP, your last words for the week.
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And again, I want to thank Danny, Jimmy, and BP
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because they are the direct sponsors and responsible for keeping
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this thing, which we just did. And I had a
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little bit of fun with it. Here this Friday night
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with the open mic, which at all times is open
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for brand new callers, brand new supporters, brand new input
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and external at all times. You can just call in
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and do it. If you have a phone or you
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02:06:08.590 --> 02:06:14.289
can borrow one, do it. Anyways, Jimmy, not Jimmy. God
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help me. BP, your final word for the week.
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Go ahead.
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Well, I appreciate Danny and Jimmy from calling in. And
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go to Ocelli.com and hit the donate button. Every little
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bit helps. Stick a crowbar in your wallet and lay
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some out.
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We need it.
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But other than that, you know, support your local food bank.
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And I'm sure we'll find something more exciting for people
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that want to complain about stupid stuff being discussed. And
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invite anybody that if you don't like our stupid stuff,
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you can come on and discuss your own stupid stuff.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Again, thanks, everybody. Thanks
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to you for listening. Spread the word. Even if you
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don't want to put money in, at least spread the
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word about the show. But, of course, at all times,
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every little bit does help. Your donations are appreciated and
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will be mentioned on the show. Also, I tend to
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listen to people who are actually supporting the show one
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way or another when they make suggestions or requests. So,
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you know, just saying if you join the supporters club,
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it's freaker. Or if you make a direct donation or
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if you just share the show and make people aware,
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I am pleased to accept your help. And at all times,
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we are only listener supported here. I don't have corporate donations.
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It's just that simple. I don't have sponsorships directly from
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corporate entities. even the books you hear advertised. All the
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books advertised on here, quite frankly, are published by Mike Swanson,
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who has been a continuous supporter of all of what
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I've done for the past several years, which is why
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you hear those book spots. Other than that.
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When a fan of the Ocelli Effect calls in to
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the Ocelli Effect.
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I just wanted to call in and tell you and
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Michael Swanson and J.P.
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Sotillion, all of the guests that you have, how much
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I love your show. Always interesting.
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It's always informative.
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I just wanted to tell you in person on the phone.
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I mean, I love you.
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I love your show.
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I love everything you do.
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I will always be there to support you.
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You know that.
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We appreciate you so much. You have no idea.
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Thanks.
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And most of our fans just send hate mail and
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death threats.
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Ocelli.com. What are the dynamics of a crowd? How do
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you move a mob? How do you excite them? How
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do you make them feel as one with you?
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I don't know how.
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Join them first.
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Join them?
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Yes.
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When you speak to them, speak to them as if
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you were a member of the mob. Speak to them.
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Wallstreetwindow.com Wallstreetwindow.com Michael Swanson, the brilliant author of The War State,
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gives you the benefit of his knowledge.
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Go there now. Go there now.
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Go there now.
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Radio network. Nuclear holocaust. You know what uranium is, right?
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Think of nuclear weapons and other things like lots of
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uranium is right. nuclear holocaust nuclear holocaust nuclear holocaust nuclear
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holocaust nuclear holocaust nuclear holocaust.
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So so.
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So so.
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Thank you. We'll be right back.