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Welcome back to the program.
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It's a pleasure to be with you, and I'll be glad to get back to your phone calls and emails in a moment.
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I want to talk to our friend Bob Barr, the former CIA analyst and member of Congress about what's going on in the country to the north of us, where they don't have a Second Amendment, nor do they have a proper appreciation for citizens owning guns.
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Bob, welcome back.
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Well, thank you.
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It uh, you know, uh talking about Canada reminds me, and I think we might have talked about this at another time in the past.
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Uh I lived up there for a while when I was a kid.
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Uh, you know, this would have been back in the early 60s, I guess it would have been.
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Uh, and I had that's where I had my first uh 22 rifle uh up in uh Canada uh and would love to go out.
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It was uh it was a little uh single-shot 22 rifle, uh and would go out uh you know with my friends, uh they had 22s, baby guns or something, and uh never had it, never had a problem with anything.
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And uh having a uh a 22 as a 13 or 14-year-old was uh was standard procedure.
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Now uh I guess I would be considered a terrorist up there.
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I guess because we just hit the deadline, did we not, for Canadian gun owners to come in and simply hand over their firearms to the Liberal Government of Canada?
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Yeah, and I I can't imagine that uh you know it it it's come to that.
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I have a um a good friend of mine who's uh uh a French Canadian.
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I see him at a at a conference uh usually every year uh or every couple of years.
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And uh yeah, he I saw him this past spring, and uh he said it's it's it's gotten terrible up there.
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Uh once once you go through a full generation uh of people who are don't have an appreciation for firearms, uh you you really do lose the the the whole notion of being able to defend yourself and go out hunting uh and learning the responsibility of marksmanship and so forth.
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Uh and it's it's sad to see what Canada uh has become in that regard.
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Well, what are they gonna do?
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Because I know Bearing Arms wrote that with the deadline for Canadian gun owners to hand in their firearms that have been banned and receive some kind of compensation, they always call those buybacks, except uh the buy is from the government that never owned your gun to begin with.
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So it's not a buyback, it's a confiscation, and they'll give you a token amount of money for the gun they confiscate.
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They've only had 51,000 firearms turned in, and the government knows there's far more of the guns out there.
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Are they gonna go door to door and bang on people's doors and have Royal Canadian Mounted Police seize your weapons?
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Or what what's the plan?
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Do you know?
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I I suspect that they won't do that, at least for at least initially.
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There would be that would be a little bit too much for ev for a lot of Canadians.
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But they will they will move in that direction.
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Uh, you know, they will keep pushing this notion that guns are dangerous, uh kids have can't have guns, people with problems uh in the eyes of the government can't have uh firearms and so forth, and they'll acclimate people to that to that notion.
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Uh and it will be uh you know, you'll bring it in and you'll get a uh a receipt or you'll get a couple of bucks or something.
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Uh but sooner or later uh they're going to have to uh go not necessarily door to door, but go to people's homes and and uh determine whether or not they uh they have firearms.
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Well, and you know what's really disturbing about this, Bob?
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Imagine this.
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If somebody knows if you now possess the gun and it's been declared illegal and you're not allowed to possess it, then anybody who wants to get, I guess, get even with somebody else could say, hey, to the the police, you could say, Bob's got some guns.
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I know he kept them after the confiscation date, and uh you should go check him out.
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I don't know what they need for probable cause up there, but imagine if this becomes a snitch country where you simply turn in your neighbor, turn in the guy you don't like, turn in your competitor, maybe he's your business competitor, and you tell the police, hey, he's got a couple of guns, got a couple of rifles, got a couple of pistols, you ought to go arrest him.
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And they come to you and you're now a criminal.
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And and that uh that is exactly what will happen.
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Uh like I say, I I go to uh conferences uh overseas every now and then on uh for firearms, uh sometimes on behalf of the NRA, sometimes not.
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Uh and folks up in Canada there that I see at these conferences, it really bothers them, but they are in a distinct minority of firearms owners and are members of a uh of a small group of citizens that that understand and remember, so to speak, what it was like to have the freedom to have a firearm.
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Unbelievable.
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That's Bob Barr.
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Bob is a former member of Congress and a former CIA analyst.
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I want to talk to our old friend Jerry Evans, who runs our uh Nevada affiliate, and that's KKFT.
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Jerry, welcome to the program.
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What's on your mind today?
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I'm curious what inspired you to call in.
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Well, uh first of all, listening to Bob there, I'm going back to Canada for the third time to hunt this fall, and I'm dreading this trip.
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I skipped last year, but I'll be back.
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And the last time I was, it wasn't getting in with the firearms, it was actually getting out of the country uh with the firearms.
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It was a big hassle.
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But that's not true.
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Well, what do you have to do?
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Do you have to declare them at the border and and say this is what I have and it's legal under your laws, and then do the same thing coming back into America?
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Well, it it was, and it was and I talked to the the agent there, and he said it was because of Biden, and basically it had to be checked twice.
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Checked him into at the baggage counter, but then nearly uh missed the next flight, waited for over two hours for them to check them again after they had already been checked.
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It was uh the guy blamed it on Biden and the uh and all the firearms being smuggled in the United States, and uh but we we literally had to run to catch our flight after waiting for over two hours.
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That's crazy.
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But yeah.
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So here's the thing, I uh the birthright citizenship, I'm not sure if you I'm sure you did.
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You listened, and here's what has me worried, and we talked about Wyoming v.
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Herrera and Neil Gorsuch voting with the liberals uh in 2019 over that poaching case.
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Yep.
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And just listening to him question the Solicitor General yesterday, I thought, oh, here we go again.
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I don't know if you heard it in particular, asking him two or three different ways.
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Is an American Indian a United States citizen?
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Trying to trip him up.
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And I think I don't know what it is about Gorsuch.
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I think he thinks Dances with Wolves was a documentary or a historic documentary.
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Uh but I I hope I'm wrong, but my gut feeling is he's gonna vote with the liberals, you know which ones, which way they're gonna vote.
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Yeah, and my we already know where the three are gonna go, but Jerry, are they literally going to say the Fourteenth Amendment that's that could have been written saying everybody born on American soil is automatically a citizen?
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They could have left the dependent clause out subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
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They put it in for a reason, it means something, and now they're gonna simply ignore it and say we're reading the 14th Amendment without that part of the sentence.
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You and I know that, but you know which way a liberal goes.
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And and here's one thing that I everybody listening right now should should think about this.
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This wouldn't even go to the Supreme Court, and all these judges stopping Trump from doing what he's trying to do wouldn't even happen if you had a Congress, a Republican Congress, that would get behind Trump and codify everything he's doing, make it law so that these judges can't stop him from defunding Voice of America.
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By the way, Jerry, can I throw at you very quickly?
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Former resident of your state, Dirty Harry Reid, do you know that about 30 years ago, Dirty Harry Reid, Democrat, proposed a piece of legislation to say if you're here and born of an illegal alien child, you are not an American citizen.
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And that came from a member of the Democrat Party just about thirty years ago.
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That's Jerry Evans from our station in uh Reno in Carson City, KKFT.
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Welcome back to the program.
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It's a pleasure to be with you, and I'll be glad to get back to your phone calls and emails in a moment.
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I want to talk to our friend Bob Barr, the former CIA analyst and member of Congress about what's going on in the country to the north of us, where they don't have a Second Amendment, nor do they have a proper appreciation for citizens owning guns.
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Bob, welcome back.
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Well, thank you.
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It uh, you know, uh talking about Canada reminds me, and I think we might have talked about this at another time in the past.
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Uh I lived up there for a while when I was a kid.
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Uh, you know, this would have been back in the early 60s, I guess it would have been.
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Uh, and I had that's where I had my first uh 22 rifle uh up in uh Canada uh and would love to go out.
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It was uh it was a little uh single-shot 22 rifle, uh and would go out uh you know with my friends, uh they had 22s, baby guns or something, and uh never had it, never had a problem with anything.
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And uh having a uh a 22 as a 13 or 14-year-old was uh was standard procedure.
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Now uh I guess I would be considered a terrorist up there.
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I guess because we just hit the deadline, did we not, for Canadian gun owners to come in and simply hand over their firearms to the Liberal Government of Canada?
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Yeah, and I I can't imagine that uh you know it it it's come to that.
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I have a um a good friend of mine who's uh uh a French Canadian.
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I see him at a at a conference uh usually every year uh or every couple of years.
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And uh yeah, he I saw him this past spring, and uh he said it's it's it's gotten terrible up there.
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Uh once once you go through a full generation uh of people who are don't have an appreciation for firearms, uh you you really do lose the the the whole notion of being able to defend yourself and go out hunting uh and learning the responsibility of marksmanship and so forth.
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Uh and it's it's sad to see what Canada uh has become in that regard.
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Well, what are they gonna do?
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Because I know Bearing Arms wrote that with the deadline for Canadian gun owners to hand in their firearms that have been banned and receive some kind of compensation, they always call those buybacks, except uh the buy is from the government that never owned your gun to begin with.
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So it's not a buyback, it's a confiscation, and they'll give you a token amount of money for the gun they confiscate.
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They've only had 51,000 firearms turned in, and the government knows there's far more of the guns out there.
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Are they gonna go door to door and bang on people's doors and have Royal Canadian Mounted Police seize your weapons?
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Or what what's the plan?
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Do you know?
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I I suspect that they won't do that, at least for at least initially.
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There would be that would be a little bit too much for ev for a lot of Canadians.
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But they will they will move in that direction.
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Uh, you know, they will keep pushing this notion that guns are dangerous, uh kids have can't have guns, people with problems uh in the eyes of the government can't have uh firearms and so forth, and they'll acclimate people to that to that notion.
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Uh and it will be uh you know, you'll bring it in and you'll get a uh a receipt or you'll get a couple of bucks or something.
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Uh but sooner or later uh they're going to have to uh go not necessarily door to door, but go to people's homes and and uh determine whether or not they uh they have firearms.
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Well, and you know what's really disturbing about this, Bob?
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Imagine this.
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If somebody knows if you now possess the gun and it's been declared illegal and you're not allowed to possess it, then anybody who wants to get, I guess, get even with somebody else could say, hey, to the the police, you could say, Bob's got some guns.
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I know he kept them after the confiscation date, and uh you should go check him out.
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I don't know what they need for probable cause up there, but imagine if this becomes a snitch country where you simply turn in your neighbor, turn in the guy you don't like, turn in your competitor, maybe he's your business competitor, and you tell the police, hey, he's got a couple of guns, got a couple of rifles, got a couple of pistols, you ought to go arrest him.
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And they come to you and you're now a criminal.
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And and that uh that is exactly what will happen.
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Uh like I say, I I go to uh conferences uh overseas every now and then on uh for firearms, uh sometimes on behalf of the NRA, sometimes not.
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Uh and folks up in Canada there that I see at these conferences, it really bothers them, but they are in a distinct minority of firearms owners and are members of a uh of a small group of citizens that that understand and remember, so to speak, what it was like to have the freedom to have a firearm.
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Unbelievable.
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That's Bob Barr.
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Bob is a former member of Congress and a former CIA analyst.
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I want to talk to our old friend Jerry Evans, who runs our uh Nevada affiliate, and that's KKFT.
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Jerry, welcome to the program.
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What's on your mind today?
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I'm curious what inspired you to call in.
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Well, uh first of all, listening to Bob there, I'm going back to Canada for the third time to hunt this fall, and I'm dreading this trip.
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I skipped last year, but I'll be back.
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And the last time I was, it wasn't getting in with the firearms, it was actually getting out of the country uh with the firearms.
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It was a big hassle.
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But that's not true.
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Well, what do you have to do?
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Do you have to declare them at the border and and say this is what I have and it's legal under your laws, and then do the same thing coming back into America?
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Well, it it was, and it was and I talked to the the agent there, and he said it was because of Biden, and basically it had to be checked twice.
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Checked him into at the baggage counter, but then nearly uh missed the next flight, waited for over two hours for them to check them again after they had already been checked.
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It was uh the guy blamed it on Biden and the uh and all the firearms being smuggled in the United States, and uh but we we literally had to run to catch our flight after waiting for over two hours.
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That's crazy.
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But yeah.
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So here's the thing, I uh the birthright citizenship, I'm not sure if you I'm sure you did.
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You listened, and here's what has me worried, and we talked about Wyoming v.
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Herrera and Neil Gorsuch voting with the liberals uh in 2019 over that poaching case.
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Yep.
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And just listening to him question the Solicitor General yesterday, I thought, oh, here we go again.
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I don't know if you heard it in particular, asking him two or three different ways.
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Is an American Indian a United States citizen?
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Trying to trip him up.
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And I think I don't know what it is about Gorsuch.
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I think he thinks Dances with Wolves was a documentary or a historic documentary.
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Uh but I I hope I'm wrong, but my gut feeling is he's gonna vote with the liberals, you know which ones, which way they're gonna vote.
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Yeah, and my we already know where the three are gonna go, but Jerry, are they literally going to say the Fourteenth Amendment that's that could have been written saying everybody born on American soil is automatically a citizen?
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They could have left the dependent clause out subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
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They put it in for a reason, it means something, and now they're gonna simply ignore it and say we're reading the 14th Amendment without that part of the sentence.
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You and I know that, but you know which way a liberal goes.
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And and here's one thing that I everybody listening right now should should think about this.
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This wouldn't even go to the Supreme Court, and all these judges stopping Trump from doing what he's trying to do wouldn't even happen if you had a Congress, a Republican Congress, that would get behind Trump and codify everything he's doing, make it law so that these judges can't stop him from defunding Voice of America.
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By the way, Jerry, can I throw at you very quickly?
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Former resident of your state, Dirty Harry Reid, do you know that about 30 years ago, Dirty Harry Reid, Democrat, proposed a piece of legislation to say if you're here and born of an illegal alien child, you are not an American citizen.
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And that came from a member of the Democrat Party just about thirty years ago.
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That's Jerry Evans from our station in uh Reno in Carson City, KKFT.
