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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so I'm going to give everyone a heads up about what we are talking about on the show today.
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[UNKNOWN]: Our last segment, the latest segment in the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: So there are third segment.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll be a very funny one with the lovely host of that has barra the most moral pod.
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[UNKNOWN]: That has barra is a great show.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is hosted by Daniel Mattay and Matt Lee, but they'll be joining.
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[UNKNOWN]: Before that, we'll be speaking to Dr. Thayer Ahmad about Dr. Abu Saffia, who is being held as we speak.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was kidnapped.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's being tortured by Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're going to be talking about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's an extremely important case.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we've covered it before.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've had on Dr. Ahmad before.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it is a stain on the entire medical community, the fact that he is not a household name and the fact that there isn't more pressure on Israel to release this man who's only crime was literally being a doctor who happens to be Palestinian.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's his crime.
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[UNKNOWN]: also it's worth noting that he could have left he's married to a woman who is from one of the stands that you could still maybe and so he has dual citizenship he could have easily left and he stayed to help his people.
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[UNKNOWN]: But our first segment is also related to the crimes of Israel and that is a segment that we're doing with Cory Archibald who are bringing back on from a pack tracker and also her co-founder Casey Kennedy.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now before we start the show I do want to say
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[UNKNOWN]: On this episode is the Grand Platner story because I have a lot of thoughts on it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I never actually endorsed or condemned.
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[UNKNOWN]: I thought there was a lot to look into and I didn't get to it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was more kind of excited and focused on other candidates like I'm Julia Sayed who we're going to be talking about today.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't have to do this big kind of response right now, but I would be doing response to what happened because I'm someone who obviously follows politics and I think he bought curious, but in terms of like where this show came down, we didn't actually do anything on it, we didn't do an endorsement, we don't really do endorsement, but I didn't like push him or interview him or talking up.
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[UNKNOWN]: I will say, though, that we will be discussing that on the show Friday, just because I think there are a lot of really important questions relating to me too, relating to foreign policy, relating to double standards, hypocrisy, some of the worst people in the world right now are tweeting about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, anything that ever comes out of
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[UNKNOWN]: near his hand in his mouth or her fingers on Twitter is vile and dishonest, but she's really like up in her game.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm very impressed.
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[UNKNOWN]: But again, we will talk about that on Friday.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't want people to think I'm ignoring it, but I also want to make sure that people know that the focus of this show is going to be on.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm dual-scied.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think without further ado, we're going to bring on our first guests.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm very excited to be bringing them onto the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're bringing back Cory Archibald co-founder of APEC Tracker, the popular watchdog, dragging APEC's receipts into light and pressuring lawmakers to change course on Israel policy.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's a longtime progressive political strategist and fundraiser who has advised over 250 candidates for federal and state office.
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[UNKNOWN]: For six years, she led brand new Congress and was part of the team that helped launch justice Democrats and elect progressive members of Congress, like Cory Bush and Jamal Bowman, obviously targeted by APAC and bringing on to the show, making his Katie help pursue a debut, Casey Kennedy, co-founder of APAC tracker, it's a professional background in digital marketing, specializing in audience and brand development.
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[UNKNOWN]: He has spearheaded digital efforts for candidates across the political landscape from local offices to congressional races.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, honing his ability to cut through the noise and build out grassroots networks.
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[UNKNOWN]: He is the creative force behind the viral red and black graphics that have helped highlight the negative influence of APAC and Israel lobby in American politics.
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[UNKNOWN]: So welcome back, Corey, and welcome on for the first time, Casey.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hi, guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thanks so much for having us.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so glad to be back.
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[UNKNOWN]: Of course.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was it was really wonderful talking to you, Corey and I'm glad that we have this other opportunity.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to make sure that people who who didn't see the episode that we already did with you, Corey, I want to make sure they get this information, of course, case you haven't been on.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I wanted to know how did each of you get involved in this, how do you guys meet how did a pack tracker get born.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I kind of started learning about Israel and Palestine on my own around 2020 is when I first started doing some reading watching documentaries and just kind of learning about this ongoing conflict and genocide and it was something that was very alarming to me at the time and especially as I started kind of digging into what APAC was and realizing that there was this vast ecosystem of
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[UNKNOWN]: influence basically pushing a foreign government's agenda in our government was very alarming to me and whenever I talked to other people about it, I felt like they didn't really grasp what I was talking about or how serious the implications really are.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so that was just something that always stuck in the back of my mind and then fast forward a few years after October 7 we start seeing this live stream genocide on our phones every day and this kind of came back to the front of my mind because I'm seeing you know now it's much more part of the discourse
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[UNKNOWN]: to tell that line.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so I just started doing some research on, you know, where the dollar's moving around.
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[UNKNOWN]: And this isn't effective means to kind of highlight this network.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so that's when I started posting the receipt, I just started a Twitter account and posted the receipts and it took off like wildfires.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that was back in April of 2024.
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[UNKNOWN]: Within a month we had 100,000 followers and I immediately realized, you know, I work, I work, I work working in professional marketing at the time and you just don't see that sort of like organic or rapid growth, you know, that's really that's something powerful and you know, you can do something with that.
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[UNKNOWN]: around that time after that first month is actually when I got introduced to Cory because she was working on something similar and we had a mutual connection and we found out that we're working on kind of the same project but from different angles.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so we met and talked it out and decided to merge our efforts and take it from there.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, Cory, if you want to kind of pin in your side.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, totally.
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[UNKNOWN]: So as Casey said, at this around the same time that he was starting up the Twitter account, which is now grown across the multiple platforms and massively exploded in the audience growth, I was starting up a pack.
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[UNKNOWN]: My background is in packs and electoral work.
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[UNKNOWN]: I got my start with Brandon Congress nine years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was started off as a volunteer.
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[UNKNOWN]: um, it just helping out with writing the fundraising emails and helping out with other kinds of comms work, um, and then was asked to take over as chair of the board, um, and let bring to Congress for six years, and, um, and then, you know, through that also helped with the team that helped launch justice Democrats, and then, um, somewhere in that cycle, uh, also pivoted into doing political consulting work full time, and, um,
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[UNKNOWN]: It was through my work with Brandon Congress that I got to be familiar with what APEC is doing in our Democratic primaries in particular.
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[UNKNOWN]: Really, I started to notice in the 2022 cycle.
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[UNKNOWN]: I barely knew who APEC was.
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[UNKNOWN]: I knew what the name was.
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't really understand the political force that they played, but I saw that they just dropped in with a whole bunch of money against Nida Alam.
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[UNKNOWN]: in her race and then Erica Smith in her race, both in the same cycle, and then a few months later, they went in all in on against Andy Levin to install Hayley Stevens in the Congressional seat that she is currently vacating to run for Senate.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I have
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[UNKNOWN]: like longstanding beef with Haley Stevens and I'm looking to settle this here, which is why I'm really excited to be talking about this today.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it was because of that and then of course, you know, like Casey, you know, when the genocide began watching what was unfolding and feeling just horrified and knowing that the
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[UNKNOWN]: is we're acting behind the scenes and we're playing such a big role in why our lawmakers were just accepting and facilitating this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I got really mad, especially when I started to go after Jamal Bowman and Cory Bush.
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[UNKNOWN]: It pissed me off, because I worked really hard to put both of them into office, especially Cory.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so I started the pack to basically run straight a day pack.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to make a pack as politically toxic.
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[UNKNOWN]: I want to, as politically toxic as the NRA, if not more.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then like I said, that's when Casey and I got introduced and we're like, yeah, this is the same same project.
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[UNKNOWN]: We both have the same goal.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have the same project in mind.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're just coming out of different angles and so it's a natural fit and it's been it's been really great.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's a pack, a pack tracker slash track a pack is a pack.
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[UNKNOWN]: So a track API is the name of the Data Transparency Project.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the pack name is Citizens Against Data Pack Corruption.
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[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, and so that's what we, people refer to it as our political arm.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like it is all the same thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just that the project of the data reporting and the social media engagement is what we call track API.
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[UNKNOWN]: OK, great.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so what does the pack do?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, it packed us what all packs do.
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[UNKNOWN]: We spend money on elections.
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[UNKNOWN]: We support candidates.
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[UNKNOWN]: We message on the issues.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've done some independent expenditures this cycle.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've endorsed of over 130, might be over 140 by this point candidates.
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[UNKNOWN]: This cycle and have notched up a fair number of primary wins would still more to come.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so yeah, we're really excited about putting as many anti genocide candidates as possible into Congress.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because this freshman class coming into Congress is very, very exciting.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think that there's for multiple reasons not just for this issue, but definitely for the number of people who had like made
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[UNKNOWN]: This made our relationship with Israel and the genocide, a central focus of their campaign.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it's really going to be a wake-up call in the dialogue on the floor of the house next year.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right, so yeah, tell us about we're going to be talking about this Michigan race because it's so important for many reasons, but tell us a little bit about the background because, you know, it's interesting that that Haley Stevens herself is someone who as you pointed out defeated Andy Levin.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, Haley Stevens, just so people know, she is in the Democratic primary in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right now, it's between Abjila Sayed, who you endorsed, and who's been on this show, and Michigan Congresswoman Haley Stevens.
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[UNKNOWN]: So what happened is very recently, Mallory McMarrow dropped out.
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[UNKNOWN]: So now you just have these two left.
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[UNKNOWN]: Before we get to Abjila Sayed, tell us more about Haley Stevens and her political trajectory.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, KCD was starting.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll be starting.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And now you've got a personal vengeance.
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[UNKNOWN]: I do.
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[UNKNOWN]: I have a, I have a grudge to settle there.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just, I'm so angry still about the way that they attacked land 80, 11 to put her into office, but she has just always, she has been, not just on this issue, but just across the board.
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[UNKNOWN]: And this is true of a lot of the very heavily apac favored Democrats.
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[UNKNOWN]: She has one of the most conservative voting records and she has consistently voted.
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[UNKNOWN]: for, you know, for ice and like I think she signed the ice.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, card.
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[UNKNOWN]: She, you know, like good job guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: Way to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: Scoop it up all these people.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's she's just she's got a terrible record and and she prides herself on that and and and and
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[UNKNOWN]: The energy that she's bringing into this Senate race is really, she has, she has tripled down on her focus on her third dedication to Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that clip, I'm sure that you, you have cute up that you want to play the case, he's been circulating heavily.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's actually show this clip.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a listen to something that Casey Stevens actually said not in check not in character and I do have to point out I'm trying to figure out whether I should say this before we wash it or after but she's not Jewish okay I'll tell you why I find that note where they but let's just take a look.
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[UNKNOWN]: Ten you to fight for the people of Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: I will continue to fight for Israel's existence.
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[UNKNOWN]: Israel comes to me in my dreams.
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[UNKNOWN]: I see Israel's future, and I know that Israel will continue to exist for the Jewish people.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so I have to I have to say this like I don't make any excuses for anyone who thinks that is real is a dream worthy place I mean is real comes to me my dreams if one I've nightmares about about what is real is doing right but like there are a lot of people who have been brainwashed and a lot of you know we all know them like peps progressive except on Palestine.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not excusing at all, like I want to be very clear.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's okay for Jewish people to be pro-genocide.
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[UNKNOWN]: But to hear a non-Jews say that Israel comes to them in their dreams, that's just like crazy talks like in a different level.
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[UNKNOWN]: Is she like actually a Christian Zionist?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know if she describes herself that way, but she certainly fits the bill.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, she's like she's absolutely led the charge or help lead the charge in Congress to, you know, push all of these heinous bills, you know, she voted originally to against the Lebanon wars power war powers resolution, the beginning of last month.
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[UNKNOWN]: She did vote against it the second time, but like.
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[UNKNOWN]: What are you doing?
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[UNKNOWN]: She's voted again and again for unconditional military age.
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[UNKNOWN]: She denies Israel's war crimes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, perfect.
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[UNKNOWN]: Here's a great summary.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is from the wonderful prime factor.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then we'll practically what APAC wants her to do all along the way, and that's why you're now seeing them dump millions and millions of dollars each week now into this race.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's up to over $10 million in spending from APAC so far, and that's just from APAC that we've been able to identify.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's another group in this race, this Center for Democratic Priorities, which is a shadowing nonprofit group.
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't know who is funding that yet.
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[UNKNOWN]: We won't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I believe until after the election.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's just, you know, a prime example of exactly how the Israel obviously is now having to operate because these policies are not flying under the radar anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: People are absolutely fed up with this type of politics where people are the hole into foreign interests and, you know, it's very transparent.
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[UNKNOWN]: We can see right through it.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, I think a reckoning is coming and I think that really, that's really highlighting in this race in particular because you saw Mallory McMoro kind of try to thread the needle.
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[UNKNOWN]: cried originally to kind of court the progressive vote.
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[UNKNOWN]: She said it was a genocide and she kind of walked that back and then she attacked Abdul for campaigning with his handpiker and went through the whole Islamophobic gambit just really gross stuff and that absolutely cratered her campaign.
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[UNKNOWN]: I hope that others will see that that is people are not going to buy into this politics of
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[UNKNOWN]: not having a strong stand, you know, people want fighters who are going to stand up to this absolutely wildly corrupt status quo, and now you've got that, that very clear contrast in this race in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, when your red line is Hassan Paker and not genocide, I think that's kind of a red flag to tell on yourself.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't care.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, you don't have to love Hassan Paker, whatever.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, you can like him whatever you want.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the fact that that is disqualifying.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you didn't be using your political opinions off of what a Twitch streamer says about politician.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, you should be caring about the politicians policy and what they're voting for.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so the idea that that's more important.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, people are, it's obvious that people, it's because people like Shannon Watts or whoever, like, don't want to say out loud, either I don't care about genocide or I'm actually for genocide.
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[UNKNOWN]: So instead, they pretend that they have this moral, like, you know, obligation and duty to take a brave, brave sand against a sunpiker.
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[UNKNOWN]: like come on, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just so pathetic.
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[UNKNOWN]: And as you said, if people are seeing through it, I mean, increasingly seeing through it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the irony is that I think, like you said, Mallory was trying to, I don't know why Colorado like that, like a month first name, basically, whether Mallory with Maro was trying to be that in that middle, you know.
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[UNKNOWN]: middle path that third way if you will and a backfire didn't help her right if you thought it was I think politically expedient to do it and I think I think what you want to do is you just look like you don't satisfy either side.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, there's, there's an important distinction I want to make on that specifically.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that is that for a time, it kind of was working.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was, there was enough people in the social dialogue that were saying like, yeah, you know, I'm really like, I've told him more about his policies, but you know, if we get malaria, she's not so bad.
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[UNKNOWN]: I heard a lot of that early on.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it really was not until she decided to go full-throated, attacking the campaigning alongside Hassan Piker, which again,
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[UNKNOWN]: love him, hate him, be agnostic about him, whatever.
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[UNKNOWN]: She made a decision to to disingenuously conflate him and falsely conflate him with Nick Fuentes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: That is so offensive.
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[UNKNOWN]: an actual like neo-nazi white supremacist and then to and then she doubled down on that later and she launched this like whole series of frankly racist attacks against Abdul al-sayat and it that is the thing that really cratered her her support and I want that to be a very important lesson
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[UNKNOWN]: to Democrats that are out there who are Democrats and Democratic boosters, Democratic influencers, commentators, any voters, anybody who is trying to get something done in our electoral space on behalf of the Democrats, I want you to take notice that we are not
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[UNKNOWN]: going to be okay with normalizing Islamophobia and anti-Muslim hatred and racism anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like that is every bit as file as any other form of racism that we allegedly oppose.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that has to be condemned and called out every single time because it is so normalized and just
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[UNKNOWN]: There's been so much of it in this race, and at the last set is just he is a saint for the way he has handled it, because he just handles it with so much grace.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I can't imagine, I mean, we, Casey and I both get people yelling at us and calling us dumb names and whatever, but nothing like what has thrown at him.
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[UNKNOWN]: And to be attacked for his identity in the ways that he has, it's just, it's so gross and it has to be condemned and absolutely just kicked the hell out.
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[UNKNOWN]: It has no space in our movement.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I agree.
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[UNKNOWN]: And let's actually go.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's show that Pram Tucker screenshot again in case people were not reading at or just listening.
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[UNKNOWN]: So here is what Haley Stevens voted for.
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[UNKNOWN]: She voted to stop the Lebanon war powers resolution send Israel 26 billion more in aid after a kill 34,000 plus people send Israel another 17.6 billion and a failed bill Biden would have vetoed.
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[UNKNOWN]: Banned the State Department from citing guys and ministry of health debt tolls, sanctioned ICC officials as they sought justice against Israeli war criminals, expressed disgust at South Africa's suit accusing Israel of genocide and praised Biden's spokesperson, John Kirby calling the case Maritalis counterproductive and completely without basis in fact whatsoever.
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[UNKNOWN]: Front Disease Israel had already killed 25,000 bus people
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[UNKNOWN]: And parenthesis expressed gratitude for ICE, that's in quotes, gratitude for ICE, and forced through the TikTok sale or ban it in the US if it wasn't sold.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that is a summary.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's important also because she's, you know, she's she's.
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[UNKNOWN]: A lot of times what happens is that people, like, have you all a side and this happens to Rishi the slave also, they get kind of pitch and hold.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I want to be clear, it's not like Gaza is not important to them, but they're also more than Gaza, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: I think that like Gaza is
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[UNKNOWN]: It is, it is a litmus test because it is the moral issue of our time and is a genocide unfolding, right, but they're also gray on other issues and those, you know, no one ever talks about how great Rashida Tlaib is on her constituencies services, right, and like environmental racism and racial justice when it comes to, you know, black people and Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I think it's really important to point that out.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so obviously, Haley Stevens is bad on a lot of farm policy stuff, but she's also terrible on like Medicare for all, you know, she's a total centrist like a radical centrist.
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[UNKNOWN]: So what else do we need to know that that wasn't covered in that list anything that that we need to make sure that people know about or was that exhaustive enough.
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[UNKNOWN]: The only one that comes to top of my mind that I didn't see on the list was she voted for the anti-Semitism awareness act, which is the To codify the IHRI definition of anti-Semitism to make it, you know, a hate crime to criticize Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: So ridiculous, yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, let's take a look at, and again, oh, here's another ironic thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: You have people who are like mad at Abdul Ahsaiid for criticizing Haley Stevens and someone like this man down guy, you know, that guy, I think Seth Mandel who's wife is that terrible woman who like reon and joy gray totally exposed asking her what woke men she wrote like a whole book on woke and she couldn't answer it just like, well, you're putting me on the spine breeze like take your time.
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[UNKNOWN]: And she's an answer.
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[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, he's like, what an anti-semitic thing to call her like a an empty suit beholden to like money.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like she's not Jewish dude.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like you can save your like we all know you weaponize and feminism and you actually are ultimately contributing to it because no one takes it seriously on those times when it is anti-semitism like when someone blows up.
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[UNKNOWN]: you know, a synagogue, people are going to be dismissing that because it's just constantly, you know, what's anti Zionism is constantly described as anti-Semitism, but I just think it's it's rich that you have stuff like this happening and she's not even Jewish.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then as you pointed out, Andy Levin, he's Jewish, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like they and she and a pack both one after him.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I actually missed the somebody calling her calling that Andy Semitic.
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[UNKNOWN]: I, what I picked up on were a lot of people that were complaining that that was misogidistic.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, to make a comment to make a comment about her, which is also absurd.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that, that pissed me off, I made some comments about how we're not gonna do, you know, anti-Muslim hateful as a cloaked in weaponized feminism.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like we're not, no.
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[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's so gross.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Basically, it's like, let's do burn the burning burn narrative, but ratcheted up by making it racist, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, like, oh, we can do two birds up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, we're going to weaponize identity politics.
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[UNKNOWN]: And while we're doing it, like be totally orientalizing and imply that like this brown man is is a savage beast who doesn't know how to respect women.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: We see right through that Emily's list, like do better.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right.
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[UNKNOWN]: So sorry about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't even remember.
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[UNKNOWN]: I got so angry.
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[UNKNOWN]: I forgot the point we were making.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about Haley Stevens.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the anti-sum.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they came out with an ad saying he has whim issues with women.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like, it's an attack.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, is it actually is a fact, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Which actually ended up being flagged by I think it was Detroit metro times one of the local newspapers ended up flagging it as you know like factually inaccurate like really stretch and the facts and the fact that's how they have to run on at this point it seems like they're trying to paint him as a misogynist and
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: How do you come away with that, uh, take after, you know, you see him campaign?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, there's there's absolutely no basis for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, and it really is just vaguely gesturing in the direction of the fact that he is a Muslim man.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so therefore he must be anti woman.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's so racist and disgusting.
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[UNKNOWN]: and counterfactual and every woman out there who is perpetuating that narrative right now released a hard look in the mirror and what are you doing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, they probably know what they're doing, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: They're, I mean, anyone who would do that, I mean, yeah, I guess maybe there's some people who are are dupped in a good faith or think that it's sincere, it's not.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's totally disingenuous.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you cared about women, I mean, not to, you maybe would care about the women who are forced to undergo like sea sections without anesthetics and gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: You care that they're being, you know.
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[UNKNOWN]: brutalize as we speak.
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[UNKNOWN]: So you just spare us this thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like if if the the words that this guy uses it, you know the irony it's not even like I'm asking people to overlook some problematic language that he uses because God's is more important like show me what he said that sexist like you he's running against people he's allowed to criticize them.
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[UNKNOWN]: He hasn't said anything remotely like misogynistic so again do better guys who are doing this and and if you want to do this to find but you're really
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[UNKNOWN]: Kind of like what they're doing to anti-semitism honestly in a similar way.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like no one's going to take it seriously when it actually is there.
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[UNKNOWN]: So tell us now about Abdul Ahsaya.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, he has been to your point about how he is not just the anti genocide candidate.
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[UNKNOWN]: He is a lot more than this issue.
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[UNKNOWN]: I would say that his principal issue and the thing that he should be best known for is his work on public health care and as a champion of universal health care and fighting for Medicare for all, that's the thing that drew me to
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[UNKNOWN]: So, I've been following and supporting him ever since then, and his work as a public health official is clear what his achievements are.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been consistent in his values in that regard, and he's consistent in his humanitarian values that he expresses in all of his policies.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's just, he's just, he's just,
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[UNKNOWN]: projecting and and and living and exhibiting all of the things that we want to see from a senator somebody who's going to go there and not just you know punch the clock and say I'm a a democratic reliable democratic vote but actually going to get on the house or on the Senate floor and and forcefully advocate for these issues that's what we need we need people speaking out forcefully for these issues instead of just just waiting to show up for the vote that's going
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: He also wrote a book called MediCare for All a Susan's Guide.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I know.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's got it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, they're different.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I thought, Casey, anything want to add.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to show a video of him, but I certainly want to give you a detour.
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[UNKNOWN]: I would just say, you know, he's been so consistent throughout his career, who he is now is who he's always been fighting for everyday people to have access to healthcare.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think that's really like the central plank of his campaign, healthcare and get big money out of politics, and that's a winning message right now.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, well, let's contrast um, uh, Haley Stevens saying that uh, is real comes to her in her dreams with a question that a lot of people get asked.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, no, let me, let me, let me refer to this.
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[UNKNOWN]: Anyone who dares to defend Palestinians gets asked this question.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look at abdual on CNN.
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[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, APAC is a big part of this conversation because Israel has become a very central topic, especially inside the Democratic Party, but nationally as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you believe Israel has a right to exist?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: The APAC has become a big issue in this election because APAC has already spent $30 million in this election.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're by far the biggest spender in the race.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now the question about a right to exist, it's interesting because nobody's ever asked me whether or not I believe Palestine has a right to exist.
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[UNKNOWN]: every single president who served has said that they believe in a two-state solution.
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[UNKNOWN]: Israel exists.
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[UNKNOWN]: The question is whether or not we want a politics where our money is sent over to Israel to do genocide and apartheid instead of investing in our own kids.
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[UNKNOWN]: You say it exists but doesn't have a right to?
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't say that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just said the question of Israel's existence is not a question.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not, I'm not going to play this gothic game about whether or not it has a right to exist.
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[UNKNOWN]: The question ultimately is about whether or not we want to politics that dignified.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to play the gothic game, but you're not going to say as you think Israel has a right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, why is that inconsistent?
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[UNKNOWN]: as she admits it's a gacha game.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're not going to say, as you think Israel has a right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, my question.
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[UNKNOWN]: OK, see, I think the question we all that ought to ask is, does everybody have equal rights to peace, dignity, and self-determination?
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[UNKNOWN]: That's Jewish Israelis and Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: And to me, the folks who should answer with the ultimate peace there looks like, should be Jewish Israelis and Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: I want my tax dollars spent here in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: to provide schools in Michigan to build healthcare in Michigan, to invest in Michigan, rather than to be sent abroad to kill Palestinian people, do genocides in apartheid.
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[UNKNOWN]: The question about whether or not Israel has a right to exist is actually quite secondary to whether or not they have a right to our tax dollars, and people don't ask that question in good faith.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, if you want to ask me about Palestinian right to exist, if you want to ask me about what I want to do for kids in Michigan, I'm happy to answer that question.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the eight pack,
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[UNKNOWN]: and Israel have become secondary questions that too many people have to talk about because our tax dollars keep getting spent over there rather than being spent over here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, pretty good, I would say pretty good response, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that should study that clip.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was a fantastic example.
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[UNKNOWN]: He highlights the absurdity of how that question is constantly used as a cudgel against anybody who takes a stand for human rights and totally flips it on its head.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the reason that we're talking about this is because we're funding it.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's really going to come down through.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right, that way, right.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you know, I mean, the fact that Israel has the right to other countries have the right to exist, like is this a question that other countries should be asked?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, who doesn't think the countries inherently have a right to exist, a founding fathers?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
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[UNKNOWN]: They wrote our definition of an incompetence and said essentially that when everyone's in a while, people should disband the political bands that hold them together if their government
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[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, like countries as political entities, no country has an unshakable right to exist.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is up to the people that live in that place to decide how they want to be governed.
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[UNKNOWN]: That is one of the founding principles of America.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's pretty weird that everyone like wants to demand that we answer that question in particular, but they're ignoring this
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I have to look into this when this started as a talking point because it's definitely has became a talking point and it's very smart because it kind of taps into like human rights and liberal language and you kind of have to stop and be like wait, rights like actually countries don't have a right to exist.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like people have the right to exist and the irony is that people who are talking about countries' rights to exist, they seem to be fine with the attempt
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, the whole premise of the question is designed to automatically pigeonhole you into defensive posture.
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[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you can see, you can see exactly what is the motive of the people that are asking that question, as soon as you flip it to say like, do Palestinian children have a right not to be blown up, do Palestinian mothers and fathers have a right to not fear for their children's lives, or to want to live full lives themselves?
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[UNKNOWN]: The minute you turn it on that front, they get very upset, like,
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: When you talk about the rights that actually exists, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like human rights, or things that exist in international humanitarian law, then they're less interested.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a similar thing with self-defense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like Israel self-defense is always being invoked, even when it's not, not at all self-defense what they're doing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're,
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[UNKNOWN]: And yet, I mean, I think we talked about this on my other show, useful idiots, which is that when it was a map Miller was asked by saved Ericot, the great Palestinian journalist.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was asked about Palestinians right to resist.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, self-defense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Just to understand that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, right, right.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he wouldn't say.
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[UNKNOWN]: like because he can't because he knows that take care of yourself.
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[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: That should be why isn't that a straightforward answer?
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[UNKNOWN]: Why does only one side of this conflict, which we know is not a conflict, because that suggests a lot of parity that isn't there.
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[UNKNOWN]: I want to show another, I think, great moment of Abdul al-Said responding to this Gacha.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is from a couple months ago, but trigger warning he's next to Hassan Piker.
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[UNKNOWN]: So yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh God.
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[UNKNOWN]: are you just getting there?
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[UNKNOWN]: How is that not an equivocation?
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[UNKNOWN]: Because so this is and this is Olivia, I think this is Olivia Ryanville, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's also from the writing rest.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, she's the worst of that.
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[UNKNOWN]: The logic that if you extend the logic there, that would be like if after October 7, someone went to a mosque and was upset, you know, did something awful there?
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[UNKNOWN]: How is that logic?
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[UNKNOWN]: How does that not translate?
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[UNKNOWN]: After October 7, there was a whole genocide against Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, and by the way, to set this up, this was because he's made, I think, a very, I mean point that's maybe uncomfortable, but if people care about antisemitism, they should care about this, this was after an attack and attempted attack on a synagogue that was perpetuated by someone Lebanese whose family had been killed by Israel, right, and he made the point basically like he's talked about how they're going to be blowback, which obviously there is going to be blowback.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, anyone honest admits this and which is what makes it so dangerous when Israel constantly says that it is the, you know, the nation of Jews and represents all Jews.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I do it was very clear he was not condoning this, but if you want to understand why things happen, I think it's important to look at how Israel's actions will have blowback.
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[UNKNOWN]: So this is what she's referring to and she's basically accusing him of like condoning it.
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[UNKNOWN]: People won't have a lot of moss in Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, free press reporters.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
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[UNKNOWN]: So no, I just look at the end of the day.
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[UNKNOWN]: We can play this rhetorical game where we pretend that all actions stand.
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[UNKNOWN]: on their own without a context or we can try and have an adult conversation about context that exists in the world because at the end of the day we all live in the same confined world.
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[UNKNOWN]: The things that happen one place in the world can effectively happen somewhere else in the world and if we're serious about preventing bad things from happening in the world we also have to be serious about the context in which they're created and I'm trying to be serious about that context.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I can both say that the attack on Temple Israel was anti-Semitic in Rome.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I can also say that the circumstances that created that, it didn't happen in a vacuum, and that those circumstances that created that are important to stand up against as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: So the notion that somehow I cannot condemn a war,
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[UNKNOWN]: that killed a little boy in a little girl in Lebanon, because of an attack on Temple Israel, seems to me inconsistent with the way the world actually works.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'd like to live in a world where we stand up against any and all violence, understanding that anti-Semitism is wrong, understanding that wars that we should not be fighting are also wrong, and understanding that there really is a connection between the two of them, however much their historical games that people try to play tell us that they're somehow is not.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're going to take you two more questions.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're going to have to move on to the next person's room.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
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[UNKNOWN]: Olivia has the Jewish state.
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[UNKNOWN]: Olivia, where are you going?
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[UNKNOWN]: So I love to take the question.
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[UNKNOWN]: So Olivia Rungel says this is Israel have the right to exist as a Jewish state.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like a question, actually.
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you mean by Jewish state?
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, I feel weird.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you can't define their question, I'm not going to answer your question.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're going to move on to the next person.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's so great.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, everyone knows that should be forced to answer that part.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, two immediate things I wanted to say.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, first of all, this is the clip that when Olivia Rungled wrote it up later, she said, she described it as, she narrowed his eyes.
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[UNKNOWN]: which is just like people zoomed in on his face and it objectively did not happen.
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[UNKNOWN]: She made it up.
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[UNKNOWN]: She literally, this woman is parading as a journalist and she literally wrote something false that is a provably false with video evidence and it's disgusting and racist again.
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[UNKNOWN]: But listen to the way he responded throughout that entire clip and that just imagine having that moral clarity and consistency and confidence on the floor of the United States Senate against John Fetterman against any Republican against half of the Democrats, frankly.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like it's just imagine having that that's why we need someone like up to all in the Senate.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, here, let's be fair to Olivia.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's let her, we want to show her in her own words, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Listen to Jewish women or read the texts or tweets of Jewish women.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I do as a side who was Muslim, walks a fine line on the Jewish state.
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[UNKNOWN]: On Tuesday night, he told the crowd, as he often does, that his problem is not with Jews.
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[UNKNOWN]: Code, all of us love and revered Jewish folk are Jewish neighbors.
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[UNKNOWN]: The faith of Judaism, he said, hands out stretched.
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[UNKNOWN]: Later that night in a makeshift spin room assembled by the campaign, he rebuffed my question on whether he believes in Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you mean by a Jewish state he retorted narrowing his eyes?
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[UNKNOWN]: If you can't answer that question, I'm not going to answer it.
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[UNKNOWN]: and quote, for someone who often waves around his respect for Judaism, he seemed unaware of something elementary.
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[UNKNOWN]: Judaism is not only a religion, but a people with a long-standing connection to Israel that runs through its prayers, traditions, and history.
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[UNKNOWN]: Wait, Judaism is a people?
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[UNKNOWN]: No, that's not even, like, even just grammatically, he doesn't notice.
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[UNKNOWN]: So like conjugate or syntactically, she's challenged here, but that also shows you that she doesn't know how to answer the question even here.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't just say, oh, it's our history Judaism is people longstanding, okay, what does a Jewish thing mean?
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[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, again, it's like, you don't get to say, okay, that's great.
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[UNKNOWN]: Say what you will.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, Olivia, please tell us what that means.
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[UNKNOWN]: What does Israel existing as a Jewish state look like?
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[UNKNOWN]: And they can't say that because then they'd have to knowledge, which is why it's great when Dora and Mondani's like, it has the right to exist as a democratic state.
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[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: So let's see, I want to talk about other candidates who you've endorsed or who you're excited about.
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[UNKNOWN]: What can you tell us about them?
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[UNKNOWN]: So we have a number of health races that we've also endorsed in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we're really excited about helping to boost some of these.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's we actually have some really strong pickup opportunities, not only for flipping like Republican seats, but also to get better Democrats into office.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's really, really several very exciting opportunities there.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've got five total house candidates, Casey's got to list.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've got some things we can share about each one of them.
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[UNKNOWN]: But just want to say like for the people that are out there, like wanting to support work that we're doing, for example, you know, when you help uplift some of these house raises, you're also helping to uplift that dual, like we're working on a strategy to help uplift the entire Michigan slate that we have that we have endorsed to be able to, you know, help them win in this election, it's just just around the corner, but Casey, go ahead and take it away.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I would say we're looking at Michigan's 13th district, which is currently represented by Sri Tannadar.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's being challenged by Donovan McKinney, who's got a bunch of progressive backing.
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[UNKNOWN]: I believe Bernie Sanders.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, the whole left wing is basically come in behind him Rashida Tulib is really doing a lot of groundwork for him and really hitting Representative Tanadar on his lack of constituent services.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been largely an absentee representative in the district.
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[UNKNOWN]: and just a lot of kind of weird things going on out of his congressional office.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he has a consistently high staff turnover and his staffers actually, once they leave, they start leaking stuff to the press.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, he's using his congressional office funds for franking, which is when you take
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[UNKNOWN]: Your congressional appropriated funds meant for your congressional office and you're using it to kind of promote yourself in the district and kind of using as a campaign fund as opposed to services you're supposed to provide.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he's also, you know, he's just got a horrible record on Israel and Palestine.
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[UNKNOWN]: So really, when you look at representative Thanedar's record, it's among the bottom ranking of any of the Democratic House members.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's voted to sanction the ICC.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's voted to gut unrefunding.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's voted for the anti-Semitism awareness act, basically another Haley Stevens.
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[UNKNOWN]: just maybe lesser known, but he's been in office for a couple of cycles now.
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[UNKNOWN]: Largely able to sell fund, he, I believe he came from like a biomedical testing start up or something that he, I can't remember exactly what the, what the back of.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's also got some crypto funding going on.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's really weird.
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[UNKNOWN]: All sorts of shady little like side.
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[UNKNOWN]: So many shady things going on with him.
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[UNKNOWN]: But what's particularly interesting to me about Sri Tanadar is that he actually, he kind of pulled a, a what's her name from the Senate, the Arizona.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, a curious system.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he almost he pretty kind of pulled a curse in him in the sense that he he actually was one of the people that you know previously spoke out against calling Israel in a apartheid state and and then when he ran for Congress and Apex started coming out for him.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was like, oh hello, I'd like a peck money.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so he started leaning into and just completely changing his positions and now he's very like vocally and legislatively pro Israel in everything that he got.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so now he's really he's really just out of step with the district.
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[UNKNOWN]: It should be, you know, much more progressive district based on just the demographics.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was challenged by Detroit City Council member Mary Waters and his original campaign when APAC, I think this is one of the first instances, maybe of APAC kind of using one of these pass-through pop-up packs to mask their spending.
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[UNKNOWN]: They put it into, I think it was called Blue Wave Action.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was like $2.3 million to help him fend off this challenge, and then of course after that, he's elected, he's taking trips to Israel with APAC and doing exactly what they want him to do.
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[UNKNOWN]: Wow, it's so anti-Semitic of you, just a dress.
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[UNKNOWN]: What else do we got in the 11th district?
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[UNKNOWN]: Not far away.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's the Democratic primary.
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[UNKNOWN]: So this is the seat that's being vacated by Haley Stevens, giving up her seat.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's open.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we're supporting Ayesha Furuki.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's a lawyer running in that district.
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[UNKNOWN]: And there's two other candidates.
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[UNKNOWN]: One of them is state senator Jeremy Moss.
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[UNKNOWN]: He is a loud and proud Zionist.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's buddies with
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[UNKNOWN]: the U of MREG agent who pushed for the students to be arrested for protesting, and he's anti-BDS, fully pro-Israel, and he partook in the smear of Rashida Tulie back in 2024 when everybody was lasting her for being anti-smetic for standing up for Palestine.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, the other candidate in that race is Don Offerd, and he's actually, it seems like he's trying to campaign as a progressive, but he recently got called out at a town hall.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, folks are realizing he was actually registered as a Republican four years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's how he's trying to answer for that.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, well, I just wanted to go and see, you know, how things.
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[UNKNOWN]: What, what they do on the other side and the water, it's like, well, you don't need to like become a Republican to learn.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I'm hoping folks will kind of sus that out.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's really two factions here.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's like the Unserious guy who's, and we don't really know what he stands for.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's the Loud and Proud Zionist, and then there's a people's champion who's going to stand up for peace.
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[UNKNOWN]: So Iishif Grooky in the 11th District.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'll add to about I should say she's you know there's there's some internal polling that's been shared from the campaign to their fundraising list about how she's polling for this open seat for like three candidates that have basically no name recognition, you know, no national name recognition, she's polling within six points.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's just at the top and then when they do message testing when they like tell more about the background of each candidate and where they stand in different issues she blows everybody out and she's leading by 20 points and so with a very like really just a very modest investment of time and resources from some progressive groups like she could legitimately
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[UNKNOWN]: blow this race out of the water and shape the incongress of because this is a safe blue seat.
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[UNKNOWN]: So this is a race.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think people are sleeping on right now that they shouldn't be.
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[UNKNOWN]: She definitely deserves our support.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's did you want to talk about Kyle as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think he's he's another like really strong content.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so in the first district Kyle Blumquist is a sitting city council member in Iron Mountain.
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[UNKNOWN]: where he currently serves as the Mayor Pro Tem, and he's running in what is currently a Republican district held by Representative Jack Bergman, who's a PAC endorsed.
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[UNKNOWN]: Kyle is running a really unabashedly progressive campaign.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's really taken a strong stand, just calling out a PAC, and he is a real lobby director.
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[UNKNOWN]: And tapping into something that I think particular in this kind of
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[UNKNOWN]: a very strong message, you know, people are counting out these districts.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's rated as a solid Republican, but this is, I think, a really weak incumbent.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jack Bergman is 79 years old and is not well-liked and rough for this group.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's not live in this great.
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[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't even live in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's got a house somewhere else.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, he has a household and he maintains in the district for, you know, purposes.
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[UNKNOWN]: But he does not live in the district doesn't live in the state for the hasn't for years.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, which is,
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, I guess he's meeting the minimum legal threshold, but he certainly is not invested in the community as much as someone like Kyle who's like serving actively and an elected role in that community.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think what some couple things are really exciting to me about Kyle is like he said he's running this unabashedly progressive campaign against a
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[UNKNOWN]: an incumbent that is completely checked out.
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[UNKNOWN]: If he gets through this primary, I think he's certainly he's got a tough fight.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a red district, but there's so many benefits to investing in a district like that because any boats that we extra boats that we help turn out that we can maybe help get Kyle even close to flipping
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[UNKNOWN]: that district are all votes that are going to help updule in the statewide race.
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[UNKNOWN]: And also this is how we make political change.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like we have to have this long-term strategy.
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[UNKNOWN]: I started doing this work nine years ago with brand new Congress and we ran all kinds of candidates that were in
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[UNKNOWN]: are plus 15, are plus 20 districts and people would say, like, why are you even bothering?
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[UNKNOWN]: Don't come back to me unless when it's an R plus one.
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[UNKNOWN]: And when I say people, I'm not talking about voters.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm talking about Democratic consultants and campaign, you know, party officials.
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[UNKNOWN]: They think it's a waste of time to talk to voters and to present progressive ideas in districts that are, you know, that are not, you know,
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[UNKNOWN]: within a percentage point or two of flipping already.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that is just not how you're just giving up on large swaths of the country.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're just seeding the ideological territory to these people that are just becoming more and more extreme with every year.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a ridiculous way to do politics.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's the reason why Democrats keep losing in these kinds of places.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just think that this is a race that's definitely worth investing in Kyle is great.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been like packing, like I know one of his recent events, he had 200 people turn out to a town hall and a town of 1400 people, like so he's got real energy, he doesn't have as many marquee endorsements as some other candidates have, but you know, he's, he's the real deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's the Katie Harper show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'll get that Katie Harper show bump.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, let's do it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I want to leave you all with a very scary video.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is from Fox News that you guys actually tweeted this out.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a recent video.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's a warning call.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look at this.
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[UNKNOWN]: a dual-else side, who just got endorsed by AOC, a socialist from New York, who has come out and can't answer the question, should Israel exist?
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[UNKNOWN]: And if you say I taking money from APEC as a Democrat, which is a lobbyist group, Israeli lobbyist group, you're basically done as a candidate.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's where this party is right now.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, first, can we just start with socialist summer like, yeah, baby, yeah, I look great.
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[UNKNOWN]: I love the clearly labels that it doesn't.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is really lobbyist group.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, thanks for that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for that PSA.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's abduals should just cut that as an act into an act.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, they did, I think Nathan Robinson pointed out that like someone joke that the someone can make a website of Haley Stevens saying, you know, it's real comes to him in my dreams and they actually have made that website now.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, so actually, it's even funnier than that, the website is Larry's, but what's so this morning, Haley Stevens launched her, her Abdul Oppo campaign, where she's she launched a website called AbdulFacts.com, I think.
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[UNKNOWN]: And within hours they had haily shacks up and the haily shacks website is it's phenomenal.
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[UNKNOWN]: Are you going to put it up?
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[UNKNOWN]: Just the fact that they got this up so fast.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they had it primed in the background.
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[UNKNOWN]: I kudos either way because it's incredible.
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[UNKNOWN]: And also if you're going to drop Abdul fax.com and you didn't go and buy the domain haley fax.com, what are you doing?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's, yeah, that's just like, come on, girl.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: So there it is, haley fax.com says click for sound.
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[UNKNOWN]: In the United States Congress, I will continue to fight for the people of Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: I will continue to fight for Israel's existence.
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[UNKNOWN]: Israel comes to me in my career.
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[UNKNOWN]: This needs to be an ad, just put it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I really like the button to put it to make it come.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's how it is.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just beautiful.
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[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
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[UNKNOWN]: Beautiful.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you, Casey and Corey.
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[UNKNOWN]: We look forward to checking more with you and hearing more about your candidates.
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[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for having us.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, thank someone wrote she's the female John Heygey, which is kind of hilarious.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not not not too far off from the truth.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Have a great night guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: You too.
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[UNKNOWN]: I like.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't go anywhere because we have another guest he is wonderful.
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[UNKNOWN]: We are so honored to be talking to him.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been on the show before and it's especially an honor given how busy he is because this person is an actual medical doctor.
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[UNKNOWN]: And in addition to being a medical doctor and an important member of Med Global, which is a medical humanitarian NGO that works at building healthcare capacity and reducing health inequalities.
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[UNKNOWN]: He travels around and he traveled to Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been there in several medical missions.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was also in Lebanon and he is a board certified emergency medicine physician.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for having me appreciate it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Of course.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for coming.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like so to terrible.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't I always say words fail because they're kind of is what can what can be said, but you are doing such important work and you're so brave because you go to places to help people who are being, you know,
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not like a natural disaster, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, when you go to Gaza, this is like people are suffering being killed because of a policy decision.
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[UNKNOWN]: But tell us, please, I have a lot to ask you about, but one of the first things I would do on ask you about, is this horrible, you know, the horrible treatment of Dr. Abu Sufi, and you actually know him.
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[UNKNOWN]: So tell us who he is and what is happening to him.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Dr. Hussain Magusofia is a senior pediatrician that was working in Camel, Edwin Hospital.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was one of the only pediatric hospitals in the north of Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he's somebody who also happens to be an op-ed contributor to the New York Times.
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[UNKNOWN]: So over the course of the last two and a half years, he's written two op-eds in the New York Times.
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[UNKNOWN]: And one of them was published a couple of weeks before he was abducted by the Israeli military.
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[UNKNOWN]: Dr. Hassan is somebody who, over the course of the genocide who was giving us constant updates through his interviews, he was somebody who was explaining the situation on the ground.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was showing us the human cost of what the Israeli military was doing in Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he was staying in the ICU or all of these little infants and babies or incubators.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he was constantly appealing to the world saying, you have to put a stop to this.
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[UNKNOWN]: You have to allow these hospitals to continue to function.
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[UNKNOWN]: We need the medicine.
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[UNKNOWN]: We need people to have a safe place to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: And in the process of that, he lost his son Ibrahim in an Israeli air strike, and actually had to bury him in the compound of the hospital.
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[UNKNOWN]: He himself was injured in a drone strike.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was hit with shrapnel in his leg.
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[UNKNOWN]: And when they seized Camel, I do a hospital for over two months.
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[UNKNOWN]: These really military laid siege to it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Nobody was allowed to enter.
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[UNKNOWN]: Nobody was allowed to leave.
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[UNKNOWN]: We saw in the very final moments, Dr. Osam emerged from the hospital after safely evacuating all of his patients.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he had to approach and his really tank.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that was the moment he was abducted.
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[UNKNOWN]: And since that moment, we've seen him as well as many of the other Palestinian health care workers who were abducted by the Israeli military, get no sort of new process.
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[UNKNOWN]: Every single time an update emerges from these Israeli prisons about Palestinian health care workers, or even any of the prisoners, it's worse.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the most recent update we got about Dr. Hussain was from his lawyer, who's in Israeli lawyer,
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[UNKNOWN]: He visited him on July 2nd, and he was so distraught at how Dr. Hassan looked.
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[UNKNOWN]: He issued a petition immediately.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said, my client is on the brink of death.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said, I'm scared that there will be no next visit, given how beaten Dr. Hassan was, how out of breath he could not even finish sentences without catching his breath.
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[UNKNOWN]: He had bruises all over his body.
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[UNKNOWN]: He had also had his regular, he has medical conditions like high blood pressure and
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[UNKNOWN]: None of that had been tended to and the nearly two years that he's been abducted and held and detained.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he was just, he was absolutely confused at the fact that there was no sort of progress on Dr. Hussain's case.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, this is something that I think is a microcosm of the conditions in Israeli prisons, but also the way that healthcare workers in Palestine specifically in Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: have been targeted.
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[UNKNOWN]: Dr. Hassan was one of 14 medical doctors, senior medical doctors from Gaza, who remain in Israeli dungeons without any charge.
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[UNKNOWN]: Dr. Hassan himself, there's no charge against him.
58:44.486 --> 58:50.330
[UNKNOWN]: The Israeli prosecutor has not provided any sort of evidence saying, well, Dr. Hassan is in prison because of this.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's just some sort of unlawful combat and law that was passed to be able to abduct and detained Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, the one thing I'll mention is in this list of 14 senior doctors, I worked alongside two of them during the genocide.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I remember when the Israeli military surrounded Nasa Hospital in February, in January and February.
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[UNKNOWN]: of 2024.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was able to evacuate safely.
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[UNKNOWN]: Those two doctors, Dr. Nahaed and Dr. Mahmoud, one is the director of surgery and the other one is an ICU doctor.
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[UNKNOWN]: They said we can't leave our patients.
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[UNKNOWN]: And for that, they paid a heavy price.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they are languishing away in these Israeli doctors.
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[UNKNOWN]: The one final point I'll make about these Israeli prison system right now, especially after October 7.
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[UNKNOWN]: The conditions are dire, almost every single Palestinian inmate, every single Palestinian who gets abducted and is in these prisons, get scabies from how horrible the sanitary conditions are.
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[UNKNOWN]: All of them are neglected.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're almost always having their hands and their feet tied.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're always in a stressful position where they have to be bent down in a certain position.
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[UNKNOWN]: And like Dr. Hassan, for example, he's in a facility that's underground.
01:00:01.843 --> 01:00:02.823
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't even see the
01:00:03.936 --> 01:00:15.843
[UNKNOWN]: And so this, of course, would concern his attorney as it should concern everybody that's paying attention to what's going on, because already 100, almost 100 Palestinians have died since October 7th in these prisons.
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[UNKNOWN]: And one of them being Dr. Adnan Bush, who was this really prominent bone doctor, bone surgeon in Gaza, who anybody that became a doctor, new of Dr. Adnan Bush, was he was the mentor for all medical students and all, you know, aspiring
01:00:31.952 --> 01:00:34.874
[UNKNOWN]: And so this is the most recent thing that's emerged.
01:00:34.934 --> 01:00:40.018
[UNKNOWN]: It's like you said, you know, there's it's really tough to describe in words, but this nightmare is never ending.
01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:42.540
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's it's so awful.
01:00:42.560 --> 01:00:46.923
[UNKNOWN]: And here's with the images kind of iconic image of him walking in the
01:00:53.438 --> 01:01:14.084
[UNKNOWN]: This is being taken from Kamal Adwan through one of the windows, and so this is he's the last kind of like person of the medical staff and the patients that sort of walking out and in fact, the Israeli military had published a video of this when he's kind of walking up to the tank and you see one of these soldiers almost.
01:01:14.604 --> 01:01:21.472
[UNKNOWN]: You know, in just like a, in a mocking way, like putting his hand out to shake Dr. Sam's saying, hey, Dr. How are you doing?
01:01:21.832 --> 01:01:29.921
[UNKNOWN]: Like right after the hospital that he was the director of is totally, you know, emptied out of any sort of patients knowing that that hospital is going to be destroyed.
01:01:30.562 --> 01:01:31.984
[UNKNOWN]: And of course, they remove that video.
01:01:32.044 --> 01:01:34.767
[UNKNOWN]: You won't find that video anymore, but it's just, it's horrifying.
01:01:35.730 --> 01:01:43.432
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is horrifying and it's like they think it's funny to to mock this guy who's now being beaten and tortured.
01:01:43.872 --> 01:01:45.852
[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, Doctor, I'm not a brush.
01:01:45.912 --> 01:01:49.613
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he was killed and he was sexually assaulted.
01:01:49.913 --> 01:01:51.834
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is another thing.
01:01:51.894 --> 01:02:01.156
[UNKNOWN]: It's like the disgusting combination of the brutality, the sexual violence, the targeting of doctors.
01:02:05.937 --> 01:02:18.626
[UNKNOWN]: One of the things that I just can't ever like forgive people for is the spreading of the mass rape narrative about what was done on October 7th when there's no evidence of a of mass rape none.
01:02:19.227 --> 01:02:30.315
[UNKNOWN]: And when there actually is documented evidence of it, like we're none of the outlets that covered the mass rape have covered the systemic and documented on video rape of Palestinians.
01:02:31.568 --> 01:02:53.518
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, and if you talk to any of the people that have been able to get out of these Israeli prisons that have gone back to Gaza, all of them will detail really disturbing, disturbing sort of practices, and there's one thing I do want to mention, too, that I think is, as you mentioned, Dr. Adnan Al-Bursh, his body, his body, he was found basically from only having a
01:02:58.560 --> 01:03:03.382
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, that's something, again, it reverberated to all of Palestine.
01:03:03.602 --> 01:03:11.044
[UNKNOWN]: This idea of the humiliation that's associated with this is something that every single professional, not just doctors, our nurses, our first responders.
01:03:11.685 --> 01:03:15.406
[UNKNOWN]: Every single person, you know, it really, it really terrified them.
01:03:15.506 --> 01:03:23.729
[UNKNOWN]: And even when I was there and we saw what was taking place in terms of its hospital after hospital clinic after clinic that's being graded, that was like one of the
01:03:26.870 --> 01:03:32.840
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to be around when they surround this hospital because I know of the things that they may do to me and the way that I'll be treated.
01:03:33.541 --> 01:03:39.402
[UNKNOWN]: And so it really, you know, it's, it's a, it's a, it's not just these isolated incidents.
01:03:39.502 --> 01:03:44.284
[UNKNOWN]: It's not just Dr. Hussain and Dr. Adnan or the 14 doctors that I mentioned.
01:03:44.664 --> 01:03:49.105
[UNKNOWN]: It's sort of this pervasive practice that's meant to send a message to all Palestinians.
01:03:49.545 --> 01:03:52.706
[UNKNOWN]: This idea of like anybody that chooses to remain in Gaza.
01:03:53.166 --> 01:03:54.186
[UNKNOWN]: This could be your fate.
01:03:54.226 --> 01:03:54.946
[UNKNOWN]: You could be killed.
01:03:54.966 --> 01:03:55.946
[UNKNOWN]: You could be abducted.
01:03:55.986 --> 01:03:59.567
[UNKNOWN]: You could be injured, but you're not going to be able to survive.
01:03:59.727 --> 01:04:02.808
[UNKNOWN]: And so leave, you know, like it's promoting this forced displacement.
01:04:03.710 --> 01:04:19.878
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it really it's just like makes it's all the more admirable that people are willing to do this this work, you know, I mean it's unreal and it's also the fact that so his wife is from Kazakhstan right so he chose to stay like he could have easily left.
01:04:20.427 --> 01:04:22.509
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he did medical school in Kazakhstan.
01:04:24.210 --> 01:04:29.655
[UNKNOWN]: He had, I know for a fact, he had multiple opportunities to evacuate himself and his family.
01:04:30.116 --> 01:04:33.078
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, this is, again, he was in the north of Gaza.
01:04:33.138 --> 01:04:39.744
[UNKNOWN]: So very early on, the north of Gaza was already in horrible famine like conditions long before the rest of Gaza was.
01:04:39.804 --> 01:04:42.727
[UNKNOWN]: Because the Israelis had wanted to create this sort of buffer zone.
01:04:42.747 --> 01:04:47.011
[UNKNOWN]: They really wanted to empty out those northern towns in cities and neighborhoods.
01:04:47.551 --> 01:05:06.145
[UNKNOWN]: Camel Aguena situated in right in that in the north in an area that these were these did want any Palestinians there and so him staying he knew kind of what what was at stake and he made that decision very intentionally of saying I can't abandon and let this hospital go to waste or let these kids die that are in these incubators.
01:05:06.585 --> 01:05:21.000
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, he's, you mentioned like the fact that no, you know, I would say that about so many of the Palestinian like healthcare workforce, the humanitarians that are there, even the engineers and teachers, you know, I don't know why they still do what they do.
01:05:21.061 --> 01:05:22.642
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why they still show up to work.
01:05:22.702 --> 01:05:26.747
[UNKNOWN]: I can't imagine being in their situation and finding sort of that.
01:05:27.327 --> 01:05:33.531
[UNKNOWN]: just that will to continue on, but it's also the sense of responsibility and duty that they have to their community.
01:05:33.632 --> 01:05:42.618
[UNKNOWN]: Like Dr. Sam knows, when he puts the white coat on and he shows up to come out at the end of the morning, people see that, you know, and just like all of these other doctors who are in these other hospitals,
01:05:42.938 --> 01:05:49.408
[UNKNOWN]: They're noticing that the doctors are showing up to work, that the nurses are showing up, that the first responders are still getting the ambulance.
01:05:49.448 --> 01:05:53.313
[UNKNOWN]: And so that sense of duty is so profound and not.
01:05:53.554 --> 01:05:57.760
[UNKNOWN]: To me, that's why your bothers me so much when these morons try to spread.
01:05:58.581 --> 01:06:04.225
[UNKNOWN]: you know, these like, and I'm specifically speaking about the American and the Western like media.
01:06:04.465 --> 01:06:09.828
[UNKNOWN]: When they try to just adopt the sort of propaganda against these people, it's like, you don't even know them.
01:06:10.229 --> 01:06:12.230
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you never, you never even spoke to them.
01:06:12.250 --> 01:06:14.011
[UNKNOWN]: You just regurgitating this nonsense.
01:06:14.271 --> 01:06:15.112
[UNKNOWN]: It's really frustrating.
01:06:16.347 --> 01:06:16.987
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is.
01:06:17.067 --> 01:06:23.369
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, well, okay, so let's, we're going to get to that, but I, but I also, you know, I have that question for you sometimes.
01:06:23.389 --> 01:06:25.670
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, you don't live in Gaza.
01:06:25.810 --> 01:06:26.991
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to go there.
01:06:27.511 --> 01:06:33.733
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's, it's, I also wonder, you know, what makes you risk your life to, to do that.
01:06:33.833 --> 01:06:43.076
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're not doing it every day the way that, and I'm not, I'm not a little, I'm not either belittling what you're doing or, you know, but, but it's all, that's not an insignificant risk and sacrifice.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I guess what makes you do that.
01:06:44.937 --> 01:07:01.083
[UNKNOWN]: leave the United States to go and, yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, you know, coming, being a part of the Palestinian diaspora, again, it's this, you know, you're sort of looking at the folks that this is happening to that are on the ground that are in Gaza that are even in the West Bank and abroad.
01:07:01.790 --> 01:07:09.031
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, you are sort of guilty, you know, you have this survivors guilt about the privilege that you live in.
01:07:09.472 --> 01:07:16.133
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, we, we, I'm actually a part of this documentary called American Doctor that follows three doctors that went to Gaza.
01:07:16.493 --> 01:07:23.474
[UNKNOWN]: The second part of it is I'm acutely aware, just like my colleagues who are in this, for Dr. Faro's and Dr. Mark Furlmutter.
01:07:23.895 --> 01:07:25.855
[UNKNOWN]: We're acutely aware of the rollout government is playing.
01:07:26.475 --> 01:07:28.937
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, for me, that's something that I really struggle with.
01:07:28.977 --> 01:07:32.020
[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, I think about it when I lay my head trying to sleep at night.
01:07:32.040 --> 01:07:51.816
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, you know, the taxes that I'm paying, there is a direct line between sort of the bullets that are used in Gaza, the bombs that are being dropped, the fighter jets, and my actual money, like the money that I earn, you know, and so when you have both of those things at play here where you're like, I'm a member of the diaspora, I have all of this privilege, but also the government, I'm a citizen of this country.
01:07:52.176 --> 01:07:53.236
[UNKNOWN]: that's perpetuating this.
01:07:53.317 --> 01:07:54.457
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like they're supporting it.
01:07:54.517 --> 01:07:57.718
[UNKNOWN]: They are a partner in what's happening in Palestine.
01:07:58.939 --> 01:08:05.782
[UNKNOWN]: It's really hard to kind of just sit back and not just want to occupy yourself with something that could potentially be productive for Palestine.
01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:22.938
[UNKNOWN]: All right, well, let's take, I mean, this is disturbing what I think it's important for people to see it before and after image, I mean, on the left obviously he's much healthier, I mean, he's like, very gone right now, so that's from October 2024 versus June 2026.
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:46.474
[UNKNOWN]: And this reminds me of, you know, we would see this also with the hostages, you know, it was incredible because I mean, the longer time went on, you would see the Israeli hostages were thinner than at the beginning, but like they were not skin and bones away the Palestinians were and the Palestinians ones were in a place that was not undergoing famine.
01:08:47.075 --> 01:08:47.355
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:08:47.595 --> 01:08:47.956
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:08:48.016 --> 01:09:04.048
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's I think that's one thing that you become very, very aware of the dehumanization, the racism against Palestinians is when you see sort of the way the way the discussion is centered around sort of the plight of Israeli hostages.
01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:12.809
[UNKNOWN]: versus the Palestinians who are being abducted by this very sophisticated military, and there's this very systematic torture being perpetuated against them.
01:09:12.829 --> 01:09:14.471
[UNKNOWN]: You saw it, you know, clear as day.
01:09:15.312 --> 01:09:23.101
[UNKNOWN]: Whether it's the airtime that they may receive in the media or the even just like those like human stories that come out about it, you know?
01:09:24.302 --> 01:09:26.083
[UNKNOWN]: hundreds of Palestinians are being released.
01:09:26.103 --> 01:09:30.706
[UNKNOWN]: They all look like shells of their former self signs of trauma everywhere.
01:09:30.886 --> 01:09:35.730
[UNKNOWN]: Clearly, their mental health is in this very, very disturbing kind of way.
01:09:36.230 --> 01:09:38.631
[UNKNOWN]: And there's of course no mention of that.
01:09:38.691 --> 01:09:40.733
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and of course, I'm a relative of somebody who
01:09:41.653 --> 01:09:48.277
[UNKNOWN]: was in Israeli prison for almost two years and was released less than a year ago, thankfully.
01:09:48.917 --> 01:09:59.442
[UNKNOWN]: And he, everything that you're hearing and all of these reports and the New York Times article that came out, he said that to me verbatim work forward and it's like, so it's to me, it's like, wow, it's clear.
01:09:59.462 --> 01:10:02.804
[UNKNOWN]: This is not just, this is one person that they decided to pick on.
01:10:03.304 --> 01:10:09.928
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very systematic approach and it doesn't no one even gives it the bad of an eye, like it's not even an afterthought.
01:10:10.308 --> 01:10:19.953
[UNKNOWN]: Whereas, you know, I'm still, I will still see CBS or ABC or somebody, you know, really going to, I mean, you saw the mother of the hostage that was killed.
01:10:20.834 --> 01:10:31.620
[UNKNOWN]: You know, she's writing a book, she's able to get and hey, I'll tell you something like a mom sort of grieving her child, I think everybody can relate to it and think for me is like, where are the Palestinian mothers.
01:10:32.260 --> 01:10:33.861
[UNKNOWN]: that, you know, have lost everything.
01:10:33.901 --> 01:10:38.465
[UNKNOWN]: When can we hear their, I, I so desperately want their story to also get out there.
01:10:38.485 --> 01:10:40.767
[UNKNOWN]: I want people to see the suffering that they went through.
01:10:40.787 --> 01:10:45.831
[UNKNOWN]: And I think, you know, I think it's a very deliberate thing, of course, you know, just that sort of censorship.
01:10:46.870 --> 01:10:47.090
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:10:47.110 --> 01:10:47.350
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:10:47.390 --> 01:11:04.162
[UNKNOWN]: It's so it's not, I mean, some people though, if you don't know to look for it, you don't even realize that it's so absent, you know, the double standard, the dehumanization like you're saying like the worthy victims and there's actually a campaign now to free Dr. Lucifia, can you talk about that?
01:11:05.393 --> 01:11:09.955
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there are several, I mean, I think there's a couple of different avenues that we want to approach.
01:11:09.995 --> 01:11:26.284
[UNKNOWN]: First, of course, there's a current campaign that's active that emerged from this visit where we're asking that healthcare workers sign on and really ask for his release because there's been a shameful silence of American professional societies of Israeli medical associations and of the world medical association.
01:11:26.304 --> 01:11:28.104
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they don't want to say anything.
01:11:28.164 --> 01:11:34.728
[UNKNOWN]: These cowards are so unwilling to even acknowledge that there is a colleague of ours that's in these conditions.
01:11:34.748 --> 01:11:34.968
[UNKNOWN]: You know,
01:11:35.308 --> 01:11:37.008
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, aren't they up in arms?
01:11:37.268 --> 01:11:45.690
[UNKNOWN]: I would even, I would even at this point with how low the standard is and how low the bar I would even say they should demand that either charge him or release him.
01:11:45.870 --> 01:11:50.311
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, hey, you got something against him, show us the evidence, show us the evidence.
01:11:50.351 --> 01:11:53.632
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, as obviously as somebody who knows him in his family, there is no evidence.
01:11:53.692 --> 01:11:56.953
[UNKNOWN]: And I would, I would, I would bet my medical license and I would be like, hey,
01:11:57.353 --> 01:12:02.056
[UNKNOWN]: If you can prove a single thing, I personally will resign from my position and give up my medical license.
01:12:02.076 --> 01:12:11.681
[UNKNOWN]: Like, that's how confident I am, but I would even accept that from like the, you know, the World Medical Association saying, hey, show us the evidence of why you have this guy, you know, abducted and imprisoned.
01:12:12.122 --> 01:12:15.323
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and the other, there are other sort of things that are at play here.
01:12:15.343 --> 01:12:24.709
[UNKNOWN]: You know, a month ago was the 10 year anniversary where UN Security Council Resolution was passed, specifically about protecting healthcare workers and conflict zones.
01:12:25.107 --> 01:12:27.608
[UNKNOWN]: You know, this was born out of what it was going on in Syria.
01:12:27.948 --> 01:12:29.368
[UNKNOWN]: The UN Security Council came together.
01:12:29.388 --> 01:12:30.409
[UNKNOWN]: They passed this resolution.
01:12:30.429 --> 01:12:31.189
[UNKNOWN]: It's been 10 years.
01:12:31.569 --> 01:12:39.051
[UNKNOWN]: And by all metrics and all measures, it's gotten infinitely worse because of what's taking place in Palestine and in Sudan and in Lebanon.
01:12:39.531 --> 01:12:44.673
[UNKNOWN]: And so, from that sort of perspective, we're asking member states, you passed the resolution.
01:12:45.313 --> 01:12:47.154
[UNKNOWN]: You know, can you put your money where your mouth is?
01:12:47.254 --> 01:12:48.894
[UNKNOWN]: Like, is it just all talk here?
01:12:48.954 --> 01:12:50.415
[UNKNOWN]: We need some sort of accountability.
01:12:50.615 --> 01:12:52.255
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, they have an opportunity,
01:12:55.375 --> 01:13:10.758
[UNKNOWN]: Ask for some sort of visitation and some, you know, something to happen here, something that doesn't result in impunity that doesn't result in no accountability for what's taking place here, you know, and so that's another sort of avenue and then of course there's also within these really courts.
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:13.440
[UNKNOWN]: There is the fight that's there.
01:13:13.460 --> 01:13:27.006
[UNKNOWN]: There are petitions being filed by human rights groups trying to get the red cross to be able to visit Palestinians as well as trying to have some sort of due process play out some sort of visitation and you know I'll be frank with you.
01:13:27.026 --> 01:13:35.810
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be on this Katie like it's not been does not been a lot of momentum around this you know and it's just not been enough energy and a lot of political will that.
01:13:36.430 --> 01:13:37.911
[UNKNOWN]: There's plenty of people ready to support.
01:13:38.011 --> 01:13:42.613
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the masses are signing onto these petitions, they're reposting, they're commenting.
01:13:43.574 --> 01:13:47.656
[UNKNOWN]: But we cannot get, for example, our state department to do anything about this.
01:13:47.696 --> 01:13:51.658
[UNKNOWN]: We cannot get the UN Security Council to pass any sort of resolution.
01:13:51.698 --> 01:13:56.100
[UNKNOWN]: We cannot get member states that claim to be champions of human rights to acknowledge this.
01:13:56.741 --> 01:14:04.465
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, at this point, I want to appeal to the Pope and to the Catholic Church and say, you guys are the largest real estate owner in Jerusalem.
01:14:05.285 --> 01:14:09.808
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, and they've actually been able to visit Gaza twice since the genocide.
01:14:09.828 --> 01:14:13.090
[UNKNOWN]: They've been able to send a cardinal to visit the churches there in Gaza.
01:14:13.530 --> 01:14:25.177
[UNKNOWN]: I would hope that maybe they can visit some of the Palestinian prisoners, you know, just something that we need, we need something and I hope that this is like, I hope that what's going on with Dr. Hassan, that people wake up before it's too late.
01:14:26.057 --> 01:14:27.418
[UNKNOWN]: And what is he like as a person?
01:14:28.341 --> 01:14:31.983
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he is, he's such an incredible human being.
01:14:32.023 --> 01:14:34.485
[UNKNOWN]: Like, he's already an amazing pediatrician.
01:14:34.845 --> 01:14:38.287
[UNKNOWN]: He is somebody who, you know, you're really trust this medical opinion.
01:14:38.307 --> 01:14:39.808
[UNKNOWN]: You're like, you want to take your kid to him.
01:14:40.228 --> 01:14:43.070
[UNKNOWN]: But on top of that, he's just a witty person.
01:14:43.350 --> 01:14:46.472
[UNKNOWN]: He can, you know, his timing, his comedic timing is great.
01:14:46.512 --> 01:14:48.794
[UNKNOWN]: He's somebody who's always trying to take a positive note.
01:14:49.154 --> 01:14:55.678
[UNKNOWN]: He never shy away from like any sort of interview, even when people when I was there and I saw people tell him,
01:14:56.218 --> 01:15:01.162
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we were in a group chat together and they're like, be careful, like tone it down a bit, you never shy away.
01:15:01.342 --> 01:15:02.783
[UNKNOWN]: He was just like, I got to say what it is.
01:15:03.244 --> 01:15:10.009
[UNKNOWN]: And I remember when the hospitals generator had been struck by an Israeli drone and there was this concern that the power was going to go out.
01:15:10.810 --> 01:15:17.415
[UNKNOWN]: I remember him like sending a message and showing how people were repairing it and like how excited he was to get it back up in running.
01:15:17.816 --> 01:15:19.497
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's the kind of guy you're talking about.
01:15:19.517 --> 01:15:23.120
[UNKNOWN]: Somebody who's passionate about his profession because of the way that it serves
01:15:26.483 --> 01:15:31.630
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, when I was in Gaza, I was not able to get to him because the North had been cut off from the South.
01:15:32.331 --> 01:15:40.523
[UNKNOWN]: And that was, that's one thing that I think about now is just not being able to see my colleagues at Shifah and that come out I do in and then, you know, these northern hospitals.
01:15:41.483 --> 01:15:47.826
[UNKNOWN]: The way that it was just sort of carved up and then all of them sort of being abducted or, you know, being displaced.
01:15:47.926 --> 01:15:54.289
[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, he's, and I'll say the same thing about some of these other medical doctors to the 14 doctors that are in these prisons.
01:15:55.149 --> 01:16:01.952
[UNKNOWN]: Dr. Mahmoudi, as an ICU doctor, I saw him refused to let this kid that was shot in the head sort of.
01:16:02.692 --> 01:16:04.835
[UNKNOWN]: die on the floor of the hospital.
01:16:05.056 --> 01:16:08.220
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, I'm not, he, his words were, I'm not going to leave him.
01:16:08.360 --> 01:16:09.522
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to leave him like this.
01:16:09.803 --> 01:16:16.973
[UNKNOWN]: So he just sat next to this, you know, 10 year old, 11 year old and held his hand as he sort of drifted away.
01:16:16.993 --> 01:16:17.534
[UNKNOWN]: You know,
01:16:17.634 --> 01:16:25.257
[UNKNOWN]: When I saw Dr. Nahid who was the director of surgery, he would check in on all of the international workers as the bombing was getting closer to the hospital.
01:16:25.437 --> 01:16:26.618
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this hospital was shaking.
01:16:27.038 --> 01:16:28.018
[UNKNOWN]: He's knocking on the door.
01:16:28.378 --> 01:16:29.759
[UNKNOWN]: Don't worry, everything is okay.
01:16:29.819 --> 01:16:31.500
[UNKNOWN]: I promise we'll take care of you like that.
01:16:31.580 --> 01:16:33.200
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, these are the people that are in these prisons.
01:16:33.581 --> 01:16:35.421
[UNKNOWN]: And Dr. Nahid I'll say one last thing about him.
01:16:36.602 --> 01:16:39.143
[UNKNOWN]: There are reports from other Palestinian prisoners who came out.
01:16:40.033 --> 01:16:48.555
[UNKNOWN]: that Dr. Nuhed, who was the director of surgery at Nosset Hospital in the south of Enhaniunis, he was doing procedures in the prison.
01:16:48.615 --> 01:16:50.055
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, there's an abscess.
01:16:50.095 --> 01:16:52.036
[UNKNOWN]: He's helping drain the abscess with these prisoners.
01:16:52.236 --> 01:16:54.096
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, these are the types of people that are there.
01:16:54.136 --> 01:17:00.917
[UNKNOWN]: And I contrast that with some of the prison docs that are refusing to treat them, that are sort of, you know, just sitting there watching this unfold.
01:17:00.938 --> 01:17:03.038
[UNKNOWN]: And I say, you know, this is, it's two different worlds.
01:17:04.263 --> 01:17:11.388
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is, it is so upsetting because it's like these are the, like the, like the, it's like the kind of people are the ones being punished the most.
01:17:12.008 --> 01:17:25.517
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is, it is, it is brutal and I don't want to like, you know, one thing I always try to be cognizant of is I also don't want to be like sort of the person that contributes to dehumanization and like, you know, just, you know, saying Your death victims.
01:17:25.758 --> 01:17:28.399
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and that they're perfect and all of these and all that.
01:17:28.419 --> 01:17:29.740
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, are the other extreme.
01:17:29.780 --> 01:17:33.163
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but, but, but as somebody who is involved in
01:17:33.823 --> 01:17:39.208
[UNKNOWN]: medical education, I train the doctors who want to specialize in emergency medicine, and I lecture at medical schools.
01:17:39.589 --> 01:17:44.433
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I do notice something different about the healthcare workers in Gaza.
01:17:44.814 --> 01:17:53.021
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, maybe it's because it's so hard to finish specialized, and it's so hard to practice, and it really requires a dedication to the field.
01:17:53.082 --> 01:17:57.326
[UNKNOWN]: But they are, I mean, it really is just such a shame that they're cut off from the rest of the world.
01:17:57.366 --> 01:17:58.146
[UNKNOWN]: It's an absolute
01:17:58.947 --> 01:18:09.551
[UNKNOWN]: for the entire world, for the entire medical community, that these, that these people are under siege, that they are the ones who are under attack and that we're not allowed to sort of share their knowledge with the rest of the world.
01:18:10.731 --> 01:18:15.333
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I really think like the entire medical community should be like a shame.
01:18:15.493 --> 01:18:15.893
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
01:18:15.913 --> 01:18:24.176
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they, they will have, like, he said, I mean, apparently he said to his lawyer, talking about when you said, um, just the last time you're
01:18:27.990 --> 01:18:32.289
[UNKNOWN]: paraphrasing he was saying this the last time you're going to see me they brought me here to kill me.
01:18:32.722 --> 01:18:32.922
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:18:33.883 --> 01:18:47.970
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that, you know, what Dr. Asam is, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but, you know, there is something to about making sure that of these 14 doctors who've been there for almost two years putting these, you know, really keeping them in these Israeli prisons.
01:18:48.050 --> 01:18:58.796
[UNKNOWN]: It, they also, I feel probably the Israeli military needs to justify what they did to these hospitals and the way to do it is by getting these doctors, I don't know, to confess or to disappear or
01:19:00.757 --> 01:19:25.685
[UNKNOWN]: you know like it's it really feels at this point like what are why are you holding these be why are you holding up to a hundred health care workers it doesn't make any sense to me and I think that that's why i think that doctor for sands like in is is intuition is like they would be they would be very happy with him sort of dying in prison here and never being able to speak to the outside world about everything that he's seen over the last three years including his state and his really presents
01:19:27.194 --> 01:19:31.476
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's uh, this is the end, this is the last time you'll see me, they brought me here to kill me.
01:19:31.596 --> 01:19:36.259
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, how can these doctors around the world be silent in the face of this?
01:19:36.379 --> 01:19:39.120
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's going, I hope, I hope this moves them.
01:19:39.220 --> 01:19:48.986
[UNKNOWN]: I hope this moves people, but I also hope that you, if you don't say something like I want, this is not very productive, but like you should feel pain every single day of your life, honestly.
01:19:55.429 --> 01:19:57.771
[UNKNOWN]: and it was through a medical professional society.
01:19:58.272 --> 01:20:03.817
[UNKNOWN]: They canceled it and they canceled it because of pressure that was, you know, and it manifests in this way.
01:20:03.857 --> 01:20:10.183
[UNKNOWN]: This is why these societies are not speaking up the way they're not releasing statements, why they're not talking to lawmakers or to governments.
01:20:10.883 --> 01:20:18.226
[UNKNOWN]: It manifests in a way where suddenly my testimony or whatever I'm going to talk about when it comes to Gaza, Lebanon, the West thing.
01:20:19.506 --> 01:20:23.767
[UNKNOWN]: If I'm going to speak about something, then it has to come and also speak about something.
01:20:23.787 --> 01:20:29.789
[UNKNOWN]: And that's sort of, to me, that's absurd that we're willing to kind of even sort of engage in this.
01:20:29.809 --> 01:20:31.070
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, why?
01:20:32.170 --> 01:20:38.354
[UNKNOWN]: To me it's like, why if I'm a Palestinian, if I want to talk about Palestine or Palestinians, why do I have to bring up anybody else?
01:20:38.654 --> 01:20:42.477
[UNKNOWN]: Why can't I just talk about my people as a member of the diaspora?
01:20:42.497 --> 01:20:44.178
[UNKNOWN]: Why can't I talk about the medical situation?
01:20:44.238 --> 01:20:45.619
[UNKNOWN]: You wouldn't do that for Ukraine.
01:20:45.639 --> 01:20:50.222
[UNKNOWN]: You wouldn't say if you're going to talk about Ukraine, you better mention Russia and their medical system.
01:20:59.728 --> 01:21:03.289
[UNKNOWN]: many times to bring up Dr. Hussain to talk about him over the last two years.
01:21:03.969 --> 01:21:14.291
[UNKNOWN]: So much so that one of my colleagues, Dr. Tammy, who served in Gaza, she went to one of their meetings and just got up in the middle of the speech for the president of the AMA and say, how are you still silent?
01:21:14.371 --> 01:21:15.632
[UNKNOWN]: Why are you not talking about this?
01:21:15.772 --> 01:21:16.512
[UNKNOWN]: On it, real.
01:21:16.712 --> 01:21:21.353
[UNKNOWN]: So it's not for a lack of, I think, members asking them to do something.
01:21:21.373 --> 01:21:22.693
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's just the cowardice.
01:21:22.733 --> 01:21:26.654
[UNKNOWN]: It's a lack of sort of that mortal, moral fiber to be able to stand up and say,
01:21:27.297 --> 01:21:28.858
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care if somebody's going to yell at me.
01:21:28.918 --> 01:21:33.861
[UNKNOWN]: This doesn't make sense that this kid's doctor is languishingly in May die, you know?
01:21:33.921 --> 01:21:52.453
[UNKNOWN]: So, and I guess I should say, this current administration is also, they are using sort of this, that they are using Palestine advocacy to punish non-profits, to strip them of their status, to label them in a certain fashion.
01:21:52.913 --> 01:21:57.796
[UNKNOWN]: And I understand that's a real, you know, I understand that's a real threat and I understand that you should something you should consider.
01:21:58.257 --> 01:22:08.064
[UNKNOWN]: But if it's going to change, you know, your position on something and going to force you to compromise your principles, then like what kind of institution are you and yeah, exactly what you're.
01:22:08.484 --> 01:22:14.048
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so, you know, that's just that's just my my sort of position on it, but yeah, it's been very frustrating.
01:22:14.858 --> 01:22:29.893
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and the more people speak out, of course, the harder it is to like stigmatize, you know, and the more normal it is for people to just be speaking out about this, the harder will be for the administration to single out in the institution because everyone all them would be.
01:22:30.777 --> 01:22:31.658
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
01:22:31.858 --> 01:22:34.080
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what do they think is going to happen?
01:22:34.120 --> 01:22:46.131
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, with each report that's being released by like the commission of inquiry at the United Nations or by Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch with all of these different as the data was being collected and the information is coming to the surface.
01:22:46.511 --> 01:22:47.872
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, what do they think is going to happen?
01:22:47.892 --> 01:22:54.277
[UNKNOWN]: Do they think people will forget that they were silent, or that they were censoring and dismissing these sorts of things?
01:22:54.357 --> 01:23:02.304
[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, whatever, but that's, you know, that I do believe that they, you know, that they will be held account for this as well.
01:23:02.324 --> 01:23:05.867
[UNKNOWN]: They're not going to be saved from, you know, their silence and ineptitude.
01:23:07.308 --> 01:23:25.971
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I believe you have to go, I want to ask you about more things, but I cannot hold you back because unlike the degenerates I'm about to bring on who I wouldn't mind is they're not saving lives that that's me just saying our first guest, but we find if they were nurses or something or like he is not I was just being in now they're not that they're great people.
01:23:27.015 --> 01:23:27.795
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much.
01:23:28.196 --> 01:23:29.316
[UNKNOWN]: I will see you in New York City.
01:23:29.336 --> 01:23:31.338
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to this screen and I'm very excited.
01:23:31.358 --> 01:23:31.638
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:23:31.958 --> 01:23:32.218
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:23:32.979 --> 01:23:33.299
[UNKNOWN]: Really.
01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:36.921
[UNKNOWN]: I'll put any links that you send us or any social media campaigns.
01:23:36.961 --> 01:23:40.964
[UNKNOWN]: We'll definitely put in description because and I actually my dad's a doctor.
01:23:41.004 --> 01:23:44.246
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to get him to do something and yeah.
01:23:45.186 --> 01:23:45.806
[UNKNOWN]: No, thank you.
01:23:45.846 --> 01:23:47.447
[UNKNOWN]: And thank you for everything that you do.
01:23:47.527 --> 01:24:11.157
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, well, we will, it's a talk that blind like you have to remember I actually had on Romsie Barude, I don't know if you know is he from Palestine Chronicle, he's talking about this line of like it's so devastating and the devastation is beyond like it's not comparable and unprecedented and then you also have, have like joy and humor at the same time and it's really unreal to see that.
01:24:11.177 --> 01:24:12.758
[UNKNOWN]: So right, totally totally.
01:24:13.238 --> 01:24:20.305
[UNKNOWN]: And as Bobby Sam said about the Irish, you know, with the Punga Shreaker said, our revenge will be the laughter of our grandchildren.
01:24:20.545 --> 01:24:22.047
[UNKNOWN]: So, from our children and grandchildren.
01:24:22.067 --> 01:24:22.667
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, so yeah.
01:24:22.787 --> 01:24:23.989
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, amazing.
01:24:24.269 --> 01:24:25.310
[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you so much.
01:24:25.610 --> 01:24:25.991
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
01:24:26.031 --> 01:24:26.671
[UNKNOWN]: Always a pleasure.
01:24:26.691 --> 01:24:27.212
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Katie.
01:24:27.863 --> 01:24:28.103
[UNKNOWN]: Great.
01:24:28.203 --> 01:24:28.843
[UNKNOWN]: Have a great night.
01:24:29.784 --> 01:24:30.664
[UNKNOWN]: That was amazing.
01:24:30.764 --> 01:24:33.505
[UNKNOWN]: I'm so I'm like in awe of people like that.
01:24:33.705 --> 01:24:36.206
[UNKNOWN]: I just, yeah, it's amazing.
01:24:36.426 --> 01:24:56.034
[UNKNOWN]: And it's so infuriating to know that people like these doctors, the last people on earth who should be, I don't want anyone to be tortured and incarcerated killed, but it's just especially like ironic that these people who are risking their lives to save the lives of others are being subjected to torture.
01:24:56.774 --> 01:24:59.475
[UNKNOWN]: And especially in this case where he could have left.
01:24:59.795 --> 01:25:02.096
[UNKNOWN]: He double citizen ship and he didn't.
01:25:02.236 --> 01:25:05.777
[UNKNOWN]: And anyway, about to bring on our next guests.
01:25:06.057 --> 01:25:07.358
[UNKNOWN]: And this will be hopeful.
01:25:07.418 --> 01:25:08.558
[UNKNOWN]: I think there'll be more levity.
01:25:08.578 --> 01:25:10.859
[UNKNOWN]: You'll be really weird if they were less levity.
01:25:11.259 --> 01:25:11.679
[UNKNOWN]: What them?
01:25:12.200 --> 01:25:19.122
[UNKNOWN]: I'm bringing on Matt Lee, Daniel Mattei, co-host of the most moral podcast, Bat has barra.
01:25:19.162 --> 01:25:20.202
[UNKNOWN]: Welcome, Matt, and Daniel.
01:25:21.123 --> 01:25:23.904
[UNKNOWN]: Who are you calling the degenerate?
01:25:25.410 --> 01:25:27.691
[UNKNOWN]: How dare you?
01:25:28.572 --> 01:25:28.992
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
01:25:29.432 --> 01:25:30.153
[UNKNOWN]: What's up, everyone?
01:25:31.594 --> 01:25:32.174
[UNKNOWN]: I need that.
01:25:32.434 --> 01:25:33.895
[UNKNOWN]: Brad, can you make that for me?
01:25:34.335 --> 01:25:35.796
[UNKNOWN]: Clearly I can, JD.
01:25:36.096 --> 01:25:37.737
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, you can make one of them.
01:25:38.058 --> 01:25:41.980
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure how good my hotel Wi-Fi is, but I just want to say, it looks good.
01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:47.203
[UNKNOWN]: I object, strangely to the characterization of us not saving lives.
01:25:47.223 --> 01:25:52.526
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what Matt did today, but I drove the ice fields parkway from Lake Louise, Alberta, to Jasper.
01:25:53.187 --> 01:25:54.848
[UNKNOWN]: And I did the killer sing them out and go.
01:25:56.106 --> 01:25:56.466
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:25:56.987 --> 01:26:08.017
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I didn't, I saw a bear in a river and I didn't find a weapon and shoot it and I didn't kill anyone else in any other vehicle or on the road.
01:26:08.097 --> 01:26:08.677
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't count.
01:26:08.697 --> 01:26:10.939
[UNKNOWN]: You can't just be like, I didn't kill anyone today.
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:22.810
[UNKNOWN]: That, that's, that's the kind of thing you didn't, if you went, if you went to Costco, if you went to Costco and you didn't spend a certain amount of money because you bought it in bulk, you would have saved money, yes.
01:26:23.851 --> 01:26:26.052
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, oh my god, I'm Jack to this.
01:26:26.292 --> 01:26:27.913
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't I think he's convinced me.
01:26:28.513 --> 01:26:28.873
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
01:26:29.413 --> 01:26:30.093
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're welcome.
01:26:30.293 --> 01:26:39.117
[UNKNOWN]: Every person that I live Is someone who I saved don't you guys don't you love this don't you love that?
01:26:39.257 --> 01:26:39.657
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
01:26:40.457 --> 01:26:42.798
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, yes, I want to do that
01:26:43.494 --> 01:26:44.074
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, everyone.
01:26:44.254 --> 01:26:45.055
[UNKNOWN]: I want to read.
01:26:45.315 --> 01:26:46.155
[UNKNOWN]: I wish we could read.
01:26:46.415 --> 01:26:49.676
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he actually what we should do is you should read some Kaley Stevens quotes.
01:26:50.016 --> 01:26:52.157
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, what the with the auto tune, absolutely.
01:26:52.277 --> 01:26:53.997
[UNKNOWN]: I'd be happy to do that.
01:26:54.197 --> 01:27:01.920
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I wanted to bring you on because we were talking in the first segment about Kaley Stevens, you know, this woman who's running against
01:27:02.500 --> 01:27:03.380
[UNKNOWN]: I'll talk to her.
01:27:03.461 --> 01:27:04.161
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be eating that.
01:27:04.201 --> 01:27:05.101
[UNKNOWN]: I'll do a lot of diet.
01:27:05.121 --> 01:27:06.862
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, another great doctor.
01:27:07.402 --> 01:27:10.684
[UNKNOWN]: And I want to make sure that we, everyone, you've seen this video.
01:27:10.704 --> 01:27:12.404
[UNKNOWN]: But let's just show it one more time, Brad.
01:27:12.484 --> 01:27:15.466
[UNKNOWN]: Can you maybe, you want to show the website, actually?
01:27:15.586 --> 01:27:20.048
[UNKNOWN]: And then this is a website that they built out of her, out of her viral speech.
01:27:20.908 --> 01:27:22.449
[UNKNOWN]: OK, it's called Haley Facts.
01:27:22.489 --> 01:27:23.749
[UNKNOWN]: Haley Facts.
01:27:25.450 --> 01:27:27.991
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know it sounds like Califax, but it's called Haley Facts.
01:27:28.511 --> 01:27:29.012
[UNKNOWN]: And it's, um,
01:27:29.940 --> 01:27:37.725
[UNKNOWN]: in response to like this, they made a website about dual sciad that's like supposed to be apo and literally all it is is like insinuation and headlines.
01:27:38.065 --> 01:27:40.707
[UNKNOWN]: This guy wants to give you free communist health care.
01:27:40.727 --> 01:27:41.648
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:27:41.848 --> 01:27:42.168
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:27:42.348 --> 01:27:44.730
[UNKNOWN]: This guy wants to make sure everybody flex.
01:27:45.370 --> 01:27:50.314
[UNKNOWN]: For Israel's existence is real comes to me in my dream.
01:27:57.787 --> 01:28:01.708
[UNKNOWN]: I will continue to fight for the people of Israel.
01:28:02.308 --> 01:28:06.270
[UNKNOWN]: I will continue for Israel's existence.
01:28:07.110 --> 01:28:09.250
[UNKNOWN]: Israel comes to me in my dreams.
01:28:09.631 --> 01:28:11.291
[UNKNOWN]: I see Israel's future.
01:28:11.591 --> 01:28:13.132
[UNKNOWN]: Why is she trying to fuck Israel?
01:28:13.292 --> 01:28:14.612
[UNKNOWN]: Can I leave now?
01:28:14.932 --> 01:28:19.514
[UNKNOWN]: Get out of my dreams, get into my bank account.
01:28:21.314 --> 01:28:22.234
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, why?
01:28:22.294 --> 01:28:25.715
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so I'm trying to explain to people without being like...
01:28:29.011 --> 01:28:33.647
[UNKNOWN]: or like, or something like getting harder and harder getting getting hard.
01:28:35.193 --> 01:28:46.559
[UNKNOWN]: This woman is not, you know, she sure isn't so I mean, again, it's like, I'm not, I'm not saying sanctioning so annoying because it could mean both things better opposite mean it.
01:28:46.839 --> 01:28:48.019
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, it's a country name.
01:28:48.059 --> 01:28:48.459
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:28:48.499 --> 01:28:50.200
[UNKNOWN]: It's a word that can that contains.
01:28:50.240 --> 01:28:50.821
[UNKNOWN]: It's up.
01:28:50.841 --> 01:28:52.121
[UNKNOWN]: That's what it's saying.
01:28:52.141 --> 01:28:59.985
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like dust, if you dust a shelf, you're moving, you're moving particles from the, sorry, the connections bad here, but if you dust to cake, you're putting particles on it.
01:29:00.325 --> 01:29:00.685
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
01:29:00.725 --> 01:29:01.125
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:02.666 --> 01:29:04.568
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I just want it.
01:29:04.768 --> 01:29:08.570
[UNKNOWN]: Again, I'm not like condoning or giving people who are Jewish.
01:29:08.730 --> 01:29:13.834
[UNKNOWN]: Again, I'm jail free card if they say that Israel comes to them in their dreams, but it's like a little weirder.
01:29:13.874 --> 01:29:19.458
[UNKNOWN]: It is always weirder when they're not Jewish and saying that like get out of jail free.
01:29:29.685 --> 01:29:34.067
[UNKNOWN]: No, Christian Zionism is a thousand times weirder than any other Zionism.
01:29:34.087 --> 01:29:38.110
[UNKNOWN]: And I say that not because any other Zionism is somehow better.
01:29:38.310 --> 01:29:52.357
[UNKNOWN]: But because Christian Zionism relies on this weird, agreed thing, where everyone fetishizes the state of Israel, which like, it's one thing to do that because it's like, well, but it's my personal ethno state.
01:29:52.657 --> 01:29:56.600
[UNKNOWN]: It's another thing entirely to do it because it's like your best friends
01:29:59.787 --> 01:30:15.171
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I get, yeah, I mean, it's just like, I think that, and this is not, and this is not whitewashing like secular Zionism, but you can often have like, and this is something problematic, you know, Pat Progressive Accept on Palestine, right?
01:30:15.191 --> 01:30:21.772
[UNKNOWN]: Like what something scary about it is that you can have normal ideas, and then you also embrace an ethno state, right?
01:30:22.132 --> 01:30:24.333
[UNKNOWN]: But like to be a Christian talking about
01:30:29.935 --> 01:30:32.303
[UNKNOWN]: You know, indoctrination, brainwashing.
01:30:33.129 --> 01:30:36.511
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't even, I don't even really know what it is.
01:30:36.631 --> 01:30:42.195
[UNKNOWN]: Like I, I feel like I have yet to go deep under cover.
01:30:42.835 --> 01:30:49.059
[UNKNOWN]: And I kind of want to, to like a Christian evangelical church just to see what the Zionism is like.
01:30:49.219 --> 01:30:55.243
[UNKNOWN]: Because when the video is I've seen, it's like it's pretty insane.
01:30:55.303 --> 01:31:00.907
[UNKNOWN]: It's the like peak phyllo semitism where they are just like, you know, they talk about, you know,
01:31:01.407 --> 01:31:06.511
[UNKNOWN]: The poor Jews, you know, had, had death brought upon them by it off Hitler.
01:31:06.912 --> 01:31:11.475
[UNKNOWN]: And now it is their turn to turn the tables on the world.
01:31:11.535 --> 01:31:12.856
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just like, way, that's weird.
01:31:12.916 --> 01:31:15.999
[UNKNOWN]: Why would you be no one should be killing anybody on mass.
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:16.839
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we doing this?
01:31:18.421 --> 01:31:22.824
[UNKNOWN]: Well, especially because we're going to have to die most of us will have to die during the end times also.
01:31:22.904 --> 01:31:23.545
[UNKNOWN]: So there's that.
01:31:24.007 --> 01:31:26.488
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the other things, the end-time prophecy thing.
01:31:26.528 --> 01:31:36.073
[UNKNOWN]: But that kind of like, it's like, I kind of get why Zionists Jews are fine with that because they're like, yeah, because yeah, that's not going to happen.
01:31:36.093 --> 01:31:39.775
[UNKNOWN]: You guys, whatever fair tell you want to believe, that's fine, just help Israel.
01:31:40.415 --> 01:31:44.978
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we need to get Haley Stevens over to the Kinescent for a Jerusalem prayer breakfast.
01:31:45.178 --> 01:31:45.998
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
01:31:46.218 --> 01:31:46.778
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
01:31:47.259 --> 01:31:49.520
[UNKNOWN]: She would crush it at the Jerusalem prayer breakfast.
01:31:49.820 --> 01:31:50.220
[UNKNOWN]: She would.
01:31:50.700 --> 01:31:52.301
[UNKNOWN]: Did you see that clip Katie of the,
01:31:54.327 --> 01:31:55.068
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's so good.
01:31:55.208 --> 01:32:01.414
[UNKNOWN]: So first of all, sorry, I can't, I can't tell if there's a lag over there because there's a lag over here.
01:32:01.714 --> 01:32:02.635
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's just for me.
01:32:02.655 --> 01:32:03.816
[UNKNOWN]: What I can tell, there's no lag.
01:32:03.876 --> 01:32:09.241
[UNKNOWN]: I can't, it's going to, it's going to be hard for me to do my usual collaborative overlap thing.
01:32:09.341 --> 01:32:10.262
[UNKNOWN]: It's a famous humor.
01:32:10.402 --> 01:32:11.463
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:32:11.743 --> 01:32:14.906
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be a little clunky, but so there was a video, uh,
01:32:15.587 --> 01:32:26.212
[UNKNOWN]: Katie of a bunch of international Christian ministers in the Knesset at what was called a Jerusalem prayer breakfast.
01:32:26.272 --> 01:32:28.113
[UNKNOWN]: And in the Knesset, they each take turns.
01:32:28.133 --> 01:32:28.994
[UNKNOWN]: What is how we say?
01:32:29.074 --> 01:32:30.455
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of a Eurovision.
01:32:30.655 --> 01:32:34.236
[UNKNOWN]: It was a Eurovision for a sequence, a contrition.
01:32:34.677 --> 01:32:37.778
[UNKNOWN]: And they each went up and just subdued themselves.
01:32:38.098 --> 01:32:38.559
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
01:32:40.420 --> 01:32:42.181
[UNKNOWN]: And they just Backman on the right.
01:32:42.241 --> 01:32:43.022
[UNKNOWN]: That's Michelle back.
01:32:43.042 --> 01:32:43.442
[UNKNOWN]: Very good.
01:32:43.642 --> 01:32:49.426
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so there was there were mostly Americans, but they were also and you can you can request an invitation.
01:32:50.407 --> 01:32:51.628
[UNKNOWN]: Nice request.
01:32:51.688 --> 01:32:52.769
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, it's by invitation.
01:32:53.069 --> 01:32:54.050
[UNKNOWN]: That's really funny.
01:32:54.250 --> 01:32:56.452
[UNKNOWN]: I would love to go to some private.
01:32:56.652 --> 01:32:57.672
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, there was Germans.
01:32:57.933 --> 01:33:05.278
[UNKNOWN]: There was a couple of Brits who were like, yeah, Lord, our father forgiveness for not helping the Jews and Germans were like,
01:33:05.618 --> 01:33:25.778
[UNKNOWN]: Please forgive us for anti-Semitism, but we gave the prize to a Korean woman who she said that she was like both South and we won't do the accent But both South and North Korea needs to come together to apologize for a period of Jesus for forgiveness and she's like wow like phyllo semitism is gonna reunify the island of Korea
01:33:25.858 --> 01:33:29.239
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and we were, I don't know, the peninsula of Korea.
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:31.080
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, she was incredible.
01:33:31.380 --> 01:33:32.220
[UNKNOWN]: She was crying.
01:33:32.700 --> 01:33:38.082
[UNKNOWN]: And Jews, the only one who really, you know, put her whole, her whole fucking into it, you know what I mean?
01:33:38.122 --> 01:33:44.684
[UNKNOWN]: Like she really just was like, I'm going all out, I'm gonna be weeping, openly weeping in the canesia.
01:33:45.524 --> 01:33:50.347
[UNKNOWN]: begging for forgiveness from God and the state of Israel.
01:33:51.668 --> 01:34:05.277
[UNKNOWN]: There's like a level of, for lack of a better word, unfortunately, co-fifthness that a lot of Christian evangelicals exhibit when it comes to Israel, and it seems to be for a purpose that I don't fully understand other than
01:34:07.499 --> 01:34:15.505
[UNKNOWN]: I guess they get some sort of support for their mega churches, I don't really know, but you know, it's it's more than just covering.
01:34:19.358 --> 01:34:23.519
[UNKNOWN]: Look, we don't have our usual disclaimer or bumper.
01:34:23.799 --> 01:34:28.120
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to just mention that I listened to a Tucker Carlson episode, and everyone can yell at me.
01:34:28.380 --> 01:34:30.341
[UNKNOWN]: We usually have a bumper before.
01:34:30.361 --> 01:34:31.801
[UNKNOWN]: Or he mentioned Tucker Carlson.
01:34:31.821 --> 01:34:34.702
[UNKNOWN]: Those are for you mentioned, and that's why we're not endorsing.
01:34:34.822 --> 01:34:40.083
[UNKNOWN]: But on my long road trip, I listen to things, you know, and I'd say about mine come.
01:34:40.823 --> 01:34:41.023
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:34:41.463 --> 01:34:47.645
[UNKNOWN]: I'd say about three out of every five Tucker episodes are non-insane, but two out of every five are completely bonkers.
01:34:48.534 --> 01:35:00.062
[UNKNOWN]: I listened to one that was somewhere in between, and it was a guy who went actually, not undercover, but he's a Christian guy who did a deep investigative thing on the Christian church.
01:35:00.482 --> 01:35:12.050
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, these are people who are concerned about it from the inside, a deeply religious spiritual person, who thinks that the spirit of Christianity and the nature of American sovereignty are being attacked here.
01:35:12.130 --> 01:35:16.033
[UNKNOWN]: And he talked about not just like the ideological capture,
01:35:17.307 --> 01:35:26.329
[UNKNOWN]: like the geo-fencing, the hundreds of millions of dollars that Israel concertedly puts into infiltrating and... You know what I'm saying?
01:35:26.809 --> 01:35:27.549
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:35:27.609 --> 01:35:28.849
[UNKNOWN]: The duo-fencing, exactly.
01:35:29.389 --> 01:35:30.750
[UNKNOWN]: It's a huge campaign.
01:35:31.370 --> 01:35:38.691
[UNKNOWN]: It's as real as their, you know, global has borrowed, like it's a very specific part of their has borrowed that we haven't covered very much because we don't, we're not inside of it.
01:35:38.971 --> 01:35:41.872
[UNKNOWN]: But it's actually a remarkable, it was a remarkable conversation.
01:35:42.873 --> 01:36:00.660
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we should cover more of it because I think also when we started the podcast for the, not the first time, but like for, I think a real significant proportion of the Jewish institutions that were one sort of, um,
01:36:01.897 --> 01:36:06.939
[UNKNOWN]: If not quietly supporting Israel, we're tacitly supporting Israel.
01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:12.582
[UNKNOWN]: All of a sudden, after October 7th, they all sounded like Christian Zionists make a churches.
01:36:12.862 --> 01:36:15.323
[UNKNOWN]: So weird, you would think it would be the opposite, but no.
01:36:15.563 --> 01:36:28.329
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so like before then, I had definitely covered more when I worked at Al Jazeera of the Christian Zionists, evangelical sect that was made up the majority of Zionists in this country.
01:36:29.089 --> 01:36:41.589
[UNKNOWN]: And then after October 7th, that was just like, Oh, no, it's the evangelical, evangelical vacation of all Jews in America, not all Jews, not all Jewish, most Jewish in today, too, Shenzhen.
01:36:42.305 --> 01:37:03.415
[UNKNOWN]: Right, but we should definitely I think go more deep into it because it is fascinating to me to how much money they spend on like PR, just for secular, you know, the sake of like secular media, how much money do you think they spend for Christian media specifically is probably a non insignificant amount.
01:37:03.455 --> 01:37:09.618
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're talking about tours, right, where we were talking about, there's, I mean, the red halfers are expensive too.
01:37:10.078 --> 01:37:11.558
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're going to get no doubt.
01:37:11.618 --> 01:37:11.918
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:37:12.178 --> 01:37:12.459
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:37:13.339 --> 01:37:26.121
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I want to show you guys before we, and I know you have some videos that you wanted to show Daniel, but before we get to that, I do want to just close the the Haley Stevens loop a little bit, because I want to show some videos of her.
01:37:26.562 --> 01:37:30.442
[UNKNOWN]: And also, we have a kind of shocking update.
01:37:30.482 --> 01:37:32.963
[UNKNOWN]: You're never going to believe who who came up
01:37:33.423 --> 01:37:41.309
[UNKNOWN]: during a down a batch interview with Netanyahu which literally took place today but in order to appreciate that, let's see some more Haley.
01:37:41.349 --> 01:37:43.290
[UNKNOWN]: So here's Haley on a tour, right?
01:37:43.350 --> 01:37:46.472
[UNKNOWN]: This is her on a bus tour in the Holy Lamb.
01:37:46.512 --> 01:37:47.373
[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look at this.
01:37:47.433 --> 01:37:47.673
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:37:48.924 --> 01:38:14.204
[UNKNOWN]: It is Congresswoman Lee Stevenson, the great state of Michigan, and I am with 20 of my Democratic colleagues from all over our great nation, Colorado, Ohio, North Carolina, and fellow Michiganers, and we are here in the beautiful country of Israel, learning about her democracy, learning about our shared commitment to national defense, economic development and
01:38:16.590 --> 01:38:21.311
[UNKNOWN]: I just shuttered thinking of what her Hebrew would sound like in that Midwestern accent.
01:38:23.287 --> 01:38:24.587
[UNKNOWN]: Baruka Sham.
01:38:26.127 --> 01:38:27.088
[UNKNOWN]: I can't even do it right.
01:38:27.368 --> 01:38:29.048
[UNKNOWN]: I sounded a Jamaican.
01:38:29.808 --> 01:38:30.688
[UNKNOWN]: No, those vowels.
01:38:30.788 --> 01:38:33.809
[UNKNOWN]: Those vowels are the least sometic vowels I've ever heard in my life.
01:38:34.469 --> 01:38:35.309
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know the heart.
01:38:35.349 --> 01:38:36.509
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they really are.
01:38:37.129 --> 01:38:50.452
[UNKNOWN]: So now given that, given that, amazing clip, it's going to make it all the more painful for us to see this interaction between Netanyahu and Dana Bash.
01:38:50.672 --> 01:38:51.392
[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a listen.
01:38:54.036 --> 01:39:07.801
[UNKNOWN]: So some American Jews in Congress, who support Israel and support what you just said, say that a lot of the actions by you and your government are making Jews in the United States unsafe.
01:39:07.921 --> 01:39:14.524
[UNKNOWN]: Congresswoman Haley Stevens, she's running for Senate in Michigan, said Benjamin Netanyahu has made us less safe.
01:39:14.864 --> 01:39:18.605
[UNKNOWN]: He has frankly put Jews in an uncomfortable position across the country.
01:39:19.306 --> 01:39:19.626
[UNKNOWN]: Have you?
01:39:21.554 --> 01:39:26.757
[UNKNOWN]: It's made her uncomfortable because she can't stand up for the truth.
01:39:26.777 --> 01:39:29.699
[UNKNOWN]: She's trying to probably excuse anti-Semitism.
01:39:29.739 --> 01:39:30.920
[UNKNOWN]: She's not.
01:39:31.020 --> 01:39:32.741
[UNKNOWN]: She's, I mean, I just want to explain.
01:39:32.781 --> 01:39:34.342
[UNKNOWN]: She's somebody who supports Israel.
01:39:34.703 --> 01:39:37.665
[UNKNOWN]: She supports funding Israel, which is diminishing big time.
01:39:37.685 --> 01:39:38.605
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:39:38.625 --> 01:39:39.426
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:39:39.446 --> 01:39:41.107
[UNKNOWN]: She supports anti-Semitism.
01:39:41.147 --> 01:39:43.789
[UNKNOWN]: She would support me and all the babies I want to kill.
01:39:43.929 --> 01:39:45.750
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let me tell you, we track.
01:39:45.770 --> 01:39:47.011
[UNKNOWN]: I can't think of one time.
01:39:47.051 --> 01:39:49.372
[UNKNOWN]: She gave me a hand job or even sent me a hand job.
01:39:49.392 --> 01:39:51.853
[UNKNOWN]: I'm objected to the, uh, the Gallipols.
01:39:52.014 --> 01:39:52.854
[UNKNOWN]: It's okay.
01:39:52.874 --> 01:40:00.758
[UNKNOWN]: But what's so funny is that, like, this is, like, this is what, what it looks like, if Dana bashed, like pushes back on allegations of anti-Semitism.
01:40:00.818 --> 01:40:03.300
[UNKNOWN]: And we never see this because she never does that.
01:40:03.320 --> 01:40:04.020
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:40:04.080 --> 01:40:05.321
[UNKNOWN]: It's a Zion, that's right.
01:40:05.341 --> 01:40:08.363
[UNKNOWN]: She's like, no, no, no, like, prime minister, like, don't worry.
01:40:08.403 --> 01:40:10.424
[UNKNOWN]: This woman hates Palestinians.
01:40:10.704 --> 01:40:12.565
[UNKNOWN]: She loves you and general.
01:40:12.845 --> 01:40:15.688
[UNKNOWN]: Don't, she's just as racist as you'd want her to be.
01:40:15.888 --> 01:40:16.188
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:16.268 --> 01:40:17.009
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
01:40:17.029 --> 01:40:17.770
[UNKNOWN]: Like, don't worry.
01:40:17.790 --> 01:40:17.970
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:17.990 --> 01:40:18.210
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:18.230 --> 01:40:18.391
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:18.411 --> 01:40:20.172
[UNKNOWN]: Like, she's not one of those guys.
01:40:20.192 --> 01:40:20.333
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:20.393 --> 01:40:28.380
[UNKNOWN]: For a second, you thought that maybe she didn't enjoy watching video after video of families being murdered and ripped apart by the idea.
01:40:28.661 --> 01:40:29.241
[UNKNOWN]: You're wrong.
01:40:29.301 --> 01:40:30.082
[UNKNOWN]: She loves that.
01:40:30.422 --> 01:40:31.403
[UNKNOWN]: She eats it for breakfast.
01:40:31.664 --> 01:40:31.824
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:31.904 --> 01:40:33.626
[UNKNOWN]: But I haven't said that.
01:40:33.646 --> 01:40:34.687
[UNKNOWN]: She has some critiques of you.
01:40:35.628 --> 01:40:40.069
[UNKNOWN]: If he has some critiques that it's not good for the Jews, that's what her critiques really is.
01:40:40.129 --> 01:40:41.309
[UNKNOWN]: The blow, it's the blow back.
01:40:41.329 --> 01:40:43.349
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it makes Jews uncaught on safe.
01:40:43.489 --> 01:40:43.830
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:44.430 --> 01:40:50.151
[UNKNOWN]: And it is hilarious though that you could just see Dan of being like, I should have given and then these talking points before.
01:40:50.191 --> 01:40:52.451
[UNKNOWN]: I should have prepped him on who she was.
01:40:52.691 --> 01:41:01.993
[UNKNOWN]: I do love the question of, so what do you say to that allegation that you indeed are the reason for spreading anti-Semitism,
01:41:02.653 --> 01:41:04.134
[UNKNOWN]: Thoughts Benjamin then y'all.
01:41:04.174 --> 01:41:17.938
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like, what is he supposed to say in that situation other than no, she's lied Yeah, this Well, I mean, they could do the whole world know that is we've always faced anti-feminism and you know
01:41:18.773 --> 01:41:23.535
[UNKNOWN]: If we could slip them a truth serum, he'd say, that's the idea.
01:41:23.936 --> 01:41:24.356
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
01:41:24.416 --> 01:41:24.816
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:41:24.896 --> 01:41:25.656
[UNKNOWN]: That's what we need.
01:41:25.676 --> 01:41:26.557
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we need it.
01:41:26.617 --> 01:41:28.178
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
01:41:28.458 --> 01:41:28.698
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:41:28.758 --> 01:41:30.819
[UNKNOWN]: That's our gross national export.
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:31.559
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:41:31.820 --> 01:41:34.821
[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, Nate or Brad, can you one of you?
01:41:34.881 --> 01:41:42.765
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I want to show the the new ad, the Haley Stevens ad, that campaign, and that I found and tweeted out.
01:41:43.445 --> 01:41:44.066
[UNKNOWN]: there's more.
01:41:44.266 --> 01:41:44.666
[UNKNOWN]: I love.
01:41:44.966 --> 01:41:45.166
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:41:45.266 --> 01:41:48.628
[UNKNOWN]: All right, P. Mallory, Mimaro's campaign by the way.
01:41:48.708 --> 01:41:49.308
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, sure.
01:41:49.328 --> 01:41:50.269
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:41:50.409 --> 01:41:55.031
[UNKNOWN]: Also, actually, we have the Mallory Mimaro, but I'm going to play this, which we have here.
01:41:55.251 --> 01:41:56.512
[UNKNOWN]: She now, she dropped out.
01:41:57.140 --> 01:41:59.001
[UNKNOWN]: She dropped that and she went hard.
01:41:59.381 --> 01:42:05.983
[UNKNOWN]: She really pushed the Hassan Piker is a problem and that's my red line and that backfired.
01:42:06.023 --> 01:42:11.664
[UNKNOWN]: But she also had a great response about what she thought the scariest thing to come out of October 7th.
01:42:11.684 --> 01:42:13.585
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this is just one of her names.
01:42:13.745 --> 01:42:17.946
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, she thought it was not Jewish, but her husband is Jewish and I guess they named her daughter Noah.
01:42:18.367 --> 01:42:19.547
[UNKNOWN]: So a Hebrew name.
01:42:19.887 --> 01:42:23.208
[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look at this video and then we can look at the other one.
01:42:27.380 --> 01:42:33.503
[UNKNOWN]: My husband is Jewish and an attendee screamed and anti-Semitic slur in his face.
01:42:35.064 --> 01:42:41.126
[UNKNOWN]: And the only thing that I could think of is, thank God, Noah, our daughter has an Israeli name.
01:42:42.027 --> 01:42:43.147
[UNKNOWN]: Thank God, she's not old enough.
01:42:43.207 --> 01:42:46.329
[UNKNOWN]: Name drop, like Israeli name, Hebrew drop.
01:42:46.409 --> 01:42:47.810
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, what those words mean.
01:42:49.530 --> 01:42:52.492
[UNKNOWN]: My daughter bears no responsibility.
01:42:53.621 --> 01:42:57.064
[UNKNOWN]: I thought she was gonna be like, there's no resemblance to her very Jewish looking father.
01:42:57.104 --> 01:42:57.385
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:42:57.625 --> 01:42:58.566
[UNKNOWN]: Thank God for that.
01:42:58.586 --> 01:43:02.790
[UNKNOWN]: No responsibility for no responsibility for what?
01:43:03.170 --> 01:43:03.330
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:43:03.351 --> 01:43:06.414
[UNKNOWN]: Mallory, no responsibility for what?
01:43:06.454 --> 01:43:08.355
[UNKNOWN]: Do you have to, let me, like, fill that in.
01:43:08.576 --> 01:43:08.816
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:43:08.976 --> 01:43:09.176
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:43:09.336 --> 01:43:11.859
[UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, okay, let's, well, let's see what she says.
01:43:12.886 --> 01:43:14.648
[UNKNOWN]: for the actions of the Netanyahu government.
01:43:14.868 --> 01:43:15.328
[UNKNOWN]: She doesn't.
01:43:15.989 --> 01:43:23.115
[UNKNOWN]: The 140 kids who are at Temple Israel bear no responsibility for the actions of the Netanyahu government.
01:43:23.155 --> 01:43:33.505
[UNKNOWN]: The attacker on the mosque in Texas, the person who's there bear no responsibility for any of the actions of Hamas.
01:43:34.529 --> 01:43:36.851
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we have to be able to come together.
01:43:36.871 --> 01:43:40.953
[UNKNOWN]: I took to the Senate floor shortly after the 2023 attacks here in Michigan.
01:43:41.374 --> 01:43:49.519
[UNKNOWN]: And I said, my greatest fear, as I watched the war begin, was that the actions in the Middle East will tear us apart at home.
01:43:50.740 --> 01:43:52.021
[UNKNOWN]: And that's still my greatest fear.
01:43:52.201 --> 01:43:54.242
[UNKNOWN]: That was Raphael, or he's greatest fear too.
01:43:54.643 --> 01:43:54.823
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:43:55.043 --> 01:43:56.424
[UNKNOWN]: I heard his last words were,
01:43:57.257 --> 01:43:59.259
[UNKNOWN]: Don't turn on each other, Mr. Genders.
01:43:59.479 --> 01:43:59.820
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:44:00.080 --> 01:44:01.661
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I couldn't believe that that.
01:44:01.802 --> 01:44:03.623
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, that's a greatest fear.
01:44:03.824 --> 01:44:06.586
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like the amputation capitals of the world.
01:44:07.027 --> 01:44:08.508
[UNKNOWN]: It's not a genocide.
01:44:08.568 --> 01:44:09.529
[UNKNOWN]: It's no, yeah.
01:44:09.710 --> 01:44:15.535
[UNKNOWN]: It's the same thing with the, you know, school children in Iran who were killed.
01:44:16.236 --> 01:44:16.496
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:44:17.017 --> 01:44:20.540
[UNKNOWN]: They were killed, and they were all shouting, vote blue no matter who.
01:44:21.201 --> 01:44:27.467
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they, they just wanted to let everyone know, you know, you got to vote Democrat or else is just kind of continue.
01:44:28.027 --> 01:44:32.932
[UNKNOWN]: And I do feel, let me, let me, let me workshop, let me workshop a play on words.
01:44:32.972 --> 01:44:33.272
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
01:44:33.372 --> 01:44:35.954
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the Jewish phrase made their memory be for a blessing.
01:44:36.875 --> 01:44:38.536
[UNKNOWN]: No, not for a, why not?
01:44:38.557 --> 01:44:42.100
[UNKNOWN]: You added the four, I guess you like a thousand, like a schmottes thousand.
01:44:42.120 --> 01:44:45.543
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, that is, let it, no, no, no, I'm telling you that's literally, no, it is.
01:44:45.863 --> 01:44:47.224
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it's made their memory be
01:44:48.276 --> 01:44:55.140
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's actually for a blessing in the sense of may it may be like if there's a sort of liturgical I mean, that's the literal translation.
01:44:55.360 --> 01:44:57.161
[UNKNOWN]: I see may be used for a blessing.
01:44:57.341 --> 01:44:58.881
[UNKNOWN]: It's fine, but either, but either one.
01:44:58.941 --> 01:44:59.422
[UNKNOWN]: Look at that.
01:44:59.482 --> 01:45:01.003
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're memory.
01:45:01.443 --> 01:45:04.364
[UNKNOWN]: I always defer to Daniel Daniel knows more about this shit than I do.
01:45:04.764 --> 01:45:06.765
[UNKNOWN]: I just he just knows this stuff.
01:45:06.805 --> 01:45:11.268
[UNKNOWN]: May they're and may they're memory except you make it sound like they're haggling like haggling.
01:45:11.308 --> 01:45:14.069
[UNKNOWN]: May they're memory before for a for a blessing.
01:45:14.129 --> 01:45:15.410
[UNKNOWN]: I'll give you a memory for a blessing.
01:45:15.430 --> 01:45:15.670
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:45:15.890 --> 01:45:20.551
[UNKNOWN]: Look, none of us are yesterday's students here, but this is not not the point in my point.
01:45:20.691 --> 01:45:22.071
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty presumptuous, yeah.
01:45:22.571 --> 01:45:36.354
[UNKNOWN]: May their memory may the memory of those killed in Gaza be addressing, which is to say, just like a light, god's covering on the wound of my grudges, maybe it may it may it be a nice soft
01:45:43.032 --> 01:45:45.155
[UNKNOWN]: Also, it's speaking of not saving lives.
01:45:45.275 --> 01:45:46.397
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he didn't save a life.
01:45:46.477 --> 01:45:48.460
[UNKNOWN]: Matt Bernstein didn't save my memory.
01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:49.121
[UNKNOWN]: More was life.
01:45:49.141 --> 01:45:49.601
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:45:49.962 --> 01:45:51.043
[UNKNOWN]: He ended that woman.
01:45:51.464 --> 01:45:53.166
[UNKNOWN]: We were actually going to have him on earlier.
01:45:53.387 --> 01:45:55.490
[UNKNOWN]: But it was, yeah, but we'll have him on another time.
01:45:55.530 --> 01:45:56.752
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, oh, Matt couldn't do it.
01:45:56.792 --> 01:45:58.975
[UNKNOWN]: So you're going to, let me get the lesser Matt.
01:45:59.623 --> 01:46:21.330
[UNKNOWN]: No, you guys, no, no, no, you guys, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
01:46:27.258 --> 01:46:44.066
[UNKNOWN]: So Robbie Hoffman, who, I don't really know Robbie's heart of hearts when it comes when it's political, but I do get the sense that Robbie has her heart in the right place and, you know, cast mates and friends with Poppy Lou who's been very, and Anne Hannah, I'm Bander.
01:46:44.086 --> 01:46:44.847
[UNKNOWN]: I've been very vocal.
01:46:45.487 --> 01:47:02.759
[UNKNOWN]: Robby grew up in an orthodox Jewish family in Brooklyn and Montreal, which is two cities I've lived in, so I also think Robby is just one of the funniest comedians I've ever seen in or in a long, long time like Borsfeld come back a very funny comedian very very funny
01:47:03.519 --> 01:47:10.301
[UNKNOWN]: And she was interviewed by the same New York Times Smart Merchant that interviewed Tucker Carlson in his kitchen.
01:47:10.681 --> 01:47:11.642
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot the woman's name.
01:47:13.462 --> 01:47:16.964
[UNKNOWN]: And there's a clip of her talking about anti-Semitism.
01:47:18.664 --> 01:47:19.824
[UNKNOWN]: And Lee Kern.
01:47:19.904 --> 01:47:22.265
[UNKNOWN]: I thought this because Lee Kern, quote, tweeted it.
01:47:22.365 --> 01:47:27.267
[UNKNOWN]: And I wanted to show it just partly so that Matt could do his Lee Kern voice to read the tweet.
01:47:27.755 --> 01:47:29.415
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, and if you don't know who Lee Kern is.
01:47:30.216 --> 01:47:33.316
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Lee Kern is a British.
01:47:34.656 --> 01:47:37.897
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say comic because I don't think he does stand up if he does.
01:47:37.937 --> 01:47:43.218
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know it is one of the nine writers of four at two and for some reason,
01:47:51.980 --> 01:47:58.843
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, so he has been incredibly vocal, pro Israel since October 7th and that.
01:47:59.163 --> 01:48:08.828
[UNKNOWN]: I wish, throw the Jew down the well, had been nominated for Best Original Sign, or the Jew down the well, and then Mel Gibson could have presented the award and would have had to have read out the name of it.
01:48:08.848 --> 01:48:10.509
[UNKNOWN]: On stage, that would have been really close.
01:48:10.529 --> 01:48:11.729
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:48:12.270 --> 01:48:12.650
[UNKNOWN]: But yes.
01:48:13.577 --> 01:48:15.919
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so we're at the sea robbing, okay.
01:48:16.339 --> 01:48:18.141
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see Robby and then we'll read what Lee said.
01:48:19.242 --> 01:48:22.285
[UNKNOWN]: Feel about anti-Semitism, like anti-Semitism is bad.
01:48:23.085 --> 01:48:24.246
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want anti-Semitism.
01:48:24.607 --> 01:48:25.087
[UNKNOWN]: I get that.
01:48:27.249 --> 01:48:28.330
[UNKNOWN]: But is it the worst thing?
01:48:30.468 --> 01:48:43.639
[UNKNOWN]: No, to me right now it's not, especially living in the country where there's massive anti-Mexican sentiment and Mexican people are currently being rounded up or made to fear that they're going to be rounded up.
01:48:44.099 --> 01:48:55.048
[UNKNOWN]: So sorry if I'm not screaming as much about anti-Semitism as you want me to, right now I have bigger focuses on some of my neighbors that are going through horrendous.
01:48:56.460 --> 01:49:00.467
[UNKNOWN]: anti, you know, anti-Mexican sentiment.
01:49:01.129 --> 01:49:06.779
[UNKNOWN]: So yes, it's bad, but I'm not such a person on things, oh, I'm gonna live a life.
01:49:07.892 --> 01:49:09.433
[UNKNOWN]: free of any problem.
01:49:09.653 --> 01:49:10.213
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
01:49:10.634 --> 01:49:10.814
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:49:10.974 --> 01:49:12.735
[UNKNOWN]: So first of all, it's so great.
01:49:12.815 --> 01:49:15.376
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I loved how it sounded like a bit at first.
01:49:15.396 --> 01:49:15.816
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:49:16.096 --> 01:49:16.677
[UNKNOWN]: It's bad.
01:49:17.017 --> 01:49:17.617
[UNKNOWN]: Do I want it?
01:49:17.717 --> 01:49:18.298
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want it.
01:49:18.678 --> 01:49:20.759
[UNKNOWN]: But is it the worst thing?
01:49:20.779 --> 01:49:21.259
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:49:21.519 --> 01:49:21.679
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:49:21.719 --> 01:49:22.240
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
01:49:22.340 --> 01:49:23.981
[UNKNOWN]: It's funny.
01:49:24.361 --> 01:49:26.342
[UNKNOWN]: But she was being completely sincere.
01:49:26.922 --> 01:49:47.032
[UNKNOWN]: I know she what she meant to she didn't mean is it inherently not the worst thing he meant given what of the proms right but it's and I really loved that first it's a bit like yeah it's not so bad you know whatever it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it
01:49:47.212 --> 01:49:50.255
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like we should show Lee Kern though first, but like I want it.
01:49:50.395 --> 01:49:51.616
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like we need to see what he looks like.
01:49:51.636 --> 01:49:52.056
[UNKNOWN]: Picture?
01:49:52.196 --> 01:49:52.416
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:49:52.617 --> 01:49:54.218
[UNKNOWN]: Picture an ugly ball.
01:49:54.238 --> 01:49:55.259
[UNKNOWN]: Can you do man on that?
01:49:55.279 --> 01:49:56.520
[UNKNOWN]: An ugly ball man.
01:49:56.540 --> 01:50:02.405
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just just picture just, you know, yeah, this is the best way to look at him.
01:50:03.966 --> 01:50:07.508
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, I'm awesome in his teacher.
01:50:07.868 --> 01:50:17.695
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he's wearing a hat, you know, because shame, self-hatred, all the reasons that you wear a hat, I say if you're if you're bald, just be bald, man.
01:50:17.995 --> 01:50:19.156
[UNKNOWN]: Not everyone's cool with it.
01:50:19.276 --> 01:50:22.638
[UNKNOWN]: All this beautiful, you know, you don't have to fucking, you know,
01:50:22.798 --> 01:50:30.541
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, actually now I know why he's such a Zionist because being really pro is real, let's you do stuff like this.
01:50:30.561 --> 01:50:31.541
[UNKNOWN]: Hold on, yeah.
01:50:31.721 --> 01:50:34.402
[UNKNOWN]: And if you don't like being bald, hold on.
01:50:34.662 --> 01:50:37.083
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, being pro is real, let's you wear a K-pop.
01:50:37.604 --> 01:50:38.504
[UNKNOWN]: Is that where you're gonna do it?
01:50:38.524 --> 01:50:51.629
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
01:50:52.925 --> 01:50:56.265
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, you get to look like a literal **** head.
01:50:56.860 --> 01:51:00.201
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and you get to wear a helmet to cover up your your balls.
01:51:00.221 --> 01:51:14.604
[UNKNOWN]: It looks like you get to look like one of the imperial subcommenders that Darth Vader force show first also what it looks like somewhere optical illusion like it looks like the the whole behind him like it looks like he's about to take them put on his head.
01:51:14.764 --> 01:51:17.165
[UNKNOWN]: I find your lack of head disturbing command.
01:51:17.505 --> 01:51:21.706
[UNKNOWN]: I mean I don't know what the well I'm not sure what this whole is that all these others
01:51:27.575 --> 01:51:45.629
[UNKNOWN]: It's a muck it's a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck
01:51:47.672 --> 01:52:11.514
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I, I've never seen a joe so crumpled and matricistic as this year, whose self of sense worth is self-degrated in it, whose pride and dignity has been so eviscerated, a pick me joe of the highest order, a small and scavenger of approval with acceptance, a worthless wedge, who,
01:52:13.055 --> 01:52:18.980
[UNKNOWN]: He said, too, we could textualize a beach as you know, but I know when he just misgendered her.
01:52:19.160 --> 01:52:21.642
[UNKNOWN]: No, she's she's talked about the sun's day.
01:52:22.063 --> 01:52:22.943
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's great.
01:52:23.003 --> 01:52:27.987
[UNKNOWN]: Was that his attempt to to to to to no, no, no, no, no, I think he was just using they in the good.
01:52:28.047 --> 01:52:28.348
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, okay.
01:52:28.388 --> 01:52:28.688
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:52:29.609 --> 01:52:29.969
[UNKNOWN]: I work.
01:52:30.469 --> 01:52:31.390
[UNKNOWN]: I work this rat.
01:52:31.430 --> 01:52:35.854
[UNKNOWN]: She was had to recontextualize their abuse as a noble choice I've made for
01:52:41.258 --> 01:52:55.380
[UNKNOWN]: And that's before we put aside the other crap she's talking here, her ignorance of the murderous anti-Semitism that is killing Jews in Israel and around the world, and which is manufacturing coalition to too.
01:52:55.580 --> 01:52:58.921
[UNKNOWN]: I unseen, say she said, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:52:59.781 --> 01:53:00.321
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
01:53:00.561 --> 01:53:00.961
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
01:53:00.981 --> 01:53:02.642
[UNKNOWN]: So I've honestly done.
01:53:02.742 --> 01:53:03.222
[UNKNOWN]: So that.
01:53:03.322 --> 01:53:07.823
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, like, have you ever seen a Jews so crumple that says crumples
01:53:11.892 --> 01:53:19.440
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a thing with a lot of Zionists where they truly look at themselves as
01:53:22.554 --> 01:53:43.516
[UNKNOWN]: rather than what they actually look at like to the rest of us, which is just like Jewish clansmen, they look at themselves as like brave, you know, macabean warriors of ancient Israel, you know, fighting for their people and their and their personhood and their state and their kingdom and all that stuff.
01:53:43.796 --> 01:53:44.997
[UNKNOWN]: But to the rest of us,
01:53:46.318 --> 01:54:03.224
[UNKNOWN]: You just look like a clansman who's just like grasping on to this idea with all your might that yes, we are, we are better than others and we deserve more than others and anyone who, you know, goes against us is going, you know, is it.
01:54:03.904 --> 01:54:23.423
[UNKNOWN]: and who is from our tribe, anyone who is a Jew going against us is doing it because they are this weak, you know, spineless little crumpled freak, the squealing little durable, who's just like, please love me Gentiles, like that's the look that they think.
01:54:24.283 --> 01:54:26.364
[UNKNOWN]: uh uh that's what they think we all look like.
01:54:26.624 --> 01:54:36.028
[UNKNOWN]: But in truth we're just looking at people who are just wearing a cleanse hood and just uh being like, you're a god dang race traitor.
01:54:36.968 --> 01:54:38.570
[UNKNOWN]: you know, that's that's all they're doing.
01:54:38.910 --> 01:54:39.291
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:54:39.631 --> 01:54:53.506
[UNKNOWN]: And and and Robbie and and I think probably Robbie gets his goat as well because she's the true I'm not again, I don't you know her politics haven't been explicit enough for my liking, but you know she certainly hasn't said anything that's.
01:54:54.426 --> 01:54:56.147
[UNKNOWN]: raised massive alarms for me, either.
01:54:56.347 --> 01:54:58.328
[UNKNOWN]: And I get the sense that it hurts in the right place.
01:54:59.889 --> 01:55:15.078
[UNKNOWN]: But I think her cadence, her yiddish, very, a very diasporic cadence and demeanor and vibe, I think is bound to f*** design a stuff, because that's who Lee Kern could have been.
01:55:15.158 --> 01:55:21.042
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a proud tradition of yiddish kite in Britain.
01:55:21.222 --> 01:55:22.023
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
01:55:23.621 --> 01:55:24.943
[UNKNOWN]: and in England and all over.
01:55:25.543 --> 01:55:32.730
[UNKNOWN]: And so someone like Robbie, who's explicitly Jewish, couldn't be more Jewy.
01:55:32.950 --> 01:55:45.182
[UNKNOWN]: She's not just Jewish, she's Jewy, and yet her Jewiness leads her to think about her non-Jewish neighbors, before she's gonna think about how to inflate the balloon of anti-Semitism panic.
01:55:45.970 --> 01:55:49.131
[UNKNOWN]: the limp circumcised balloon of anti-Semitism panic.
01:55:49.351 --> 01:55:52.713
[UNKNOWN]: It's also not falling for the narcissism trap.
01:55:53.173 --> 01:56:02.857
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's the trap that a lot of people, it's very easy to fall for, especially post-October 7th, and I saw everywhere, I still see it everywhere with a lot of people who I once
01:56:04.157 --> 01:56:31.271
[UNKNOWN]: You know, admired people who I was once friendly with, where they were so focused on themselves and anti-Semitism is a vehicle for their own, you know, like persecution complex and their own sort of like ego tripping that they truly could not look at Palestinians problems as anything other than a quiv at best equivalence to their own, which was
01:56:32.051 --> 01:56:37.672
[UNKNOWN]: totally insane to the rest of us who have like a conscience and a sense of scale.
01:56:38.212 --> 01:56:59.256
[UNKNOWN]: So she is in that interview, she's shaking off that narcissism and just going like, yes, anti-Semitism is bad, but we're kidding ourselves and we think it's the worst thing that's happening right now, and especially when you compare it to, yes, the ice raids.
01:57:01.897 --> 01:57:03.478
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
01:57:03.538 --> 01:57:05.600
[UNKNOWN]: It might have something that's like that she grew up poor.
01:57:05.620 --> 01:57:06.100
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:57:06.120 --> 01:57:07.221
[UNKNOWN]: She grew up on welfare.
01:57:07.281 --> 01:57:07.501
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:57:07.561 --> 01:57:09.042
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, with 10 siblings.
01:57:09.123 --> 01:57:09.403
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:57:09.883 --> 01:57:18.670
[UNKNOWN]: But she, she also, it's also funny because it's like, there's so much, like, cosplay in, in Zionism.
01:57:19.330 --> 01:57:28.557
[UNKNOWN]: And the irony is that like, it's actually much more secure and butch to like feel safe enough to care about other people.
01:57:28.577 --> 01:57:28.938
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
01:57:28.978 --> 01:57:29.198
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:57:29.858 --> 01:57:54.737
[UNKNOWN]: instead of just your own like being such a whiny shit and that's what's so weird and uncomfortable for these people is that they simultaneously are like whiny bitches and also trying to project their like that they're fearless you know it's a very I think they're they're very they're insides or you know there's a bunch of mishogascans right in there yeah well it's very WWE sort of villain coded like
01:57:55.417 --> 01:58:19.658
[UNKNOWN]: Like a good wrestling federation would come up with a villain who's like the most macho, confident talking, smack talking, whatever, but is the most precious little, pretty, polypricy pants, you know, and, you know, gets there and can't stop listing off the, the, the, the litany of crimes against them, you know, and it's a, it's an excellent character.
01:58:20.158 --> 01:58:21.740
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is, yeah, it's called crumple crumples.
01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:35.358
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple cr
01:58:35.600 --> 01:58:39.704
[UNKNOWN]: There was, yeah, what's going to do it breaking news to me.
01:58:42.387 --> 01:58:52.678
[UNKNOWN]: What happens when you're me and you don't actually fully, no, I didn't know until we were, I was okay, I just learned about stuff and I go, all right, well, breaking news.
01:58:53.519 --> 01:58:59.647
[UNKNOWN]: Why has she allowed 40 million dollars of outside spending the bulk of it coming from apathy Really appealing come into this race.
01:58:59.787 --> 01:59:03.031
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's going to be hard to admit that to now Who is attacking her to actually attack her?
01:59:03.091 --> 01:59:04.533
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's a lot of things
01:59:07.249 --> 01:59:08.630
[UNKNOWN]: kind of towed coated bro.
01:59:09.490 --> 01:59:10.751
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
01:59:11.031 --> 01:59:11.952
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mean to do that.
01:59:12.012 --> 01:59:14.013
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like being an apparent person.
01:59:14.053 --> 01:59:16.434
[UNKNOWN]: But now who is attacking her to actually attack her.
01:59:16.494 --> 01:59:22.958
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's attacking her to try and steer away the stink of how staunchly she stands for their policy.
01:59:23.298 --> 01:59:26.140
[UNKNOWN]: So let's take that opportunity explain what you've given away.
01:59:26.480 --> 01:59:27.561
[UNKNOWN]: There wasn't a duck face.
01:59:27.581 --> 01:59:28.301
[UNKNOWN]: That was like a platypus.
01:59:28.361 --> 01:59:28.922
[UNKNOWN]: It was like a platypus.
01:59:28.942 --> 01:59:29.642
[UNKNOWN]: It was like a platypus.
01:59:29.662 --> 01:59:31.043
[UNKNOWN]: It was like a platypus.
01:59:31.323 --> 01:59:34.006
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know about Black right now.
01:59:34.807 --> 01:59:35.327
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:59:35.367 --> 01:59:36.008
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:59:36.068 --> 01:59:37.149
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:59:37.630 --> 01:59:38.671
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:59:39.111 --> 01:59:40.512
[UNKNOWN]: No one owns my vote.
01:59:40.753 --> 01:59:42.354
[UNKNOWN]: And no one owns my policies.
01:59:42.795 --> 01:59:49.742
[UNKNOWN]: Anyone who is going to be to my Senate campaign is doing so because of my proven record of fighting for Michigan.
01:59:50.102 --> 02:00:01.866
[UNKNOWN]: What I did when I served as chief of staff on the U.S. auto rescue saving 200,000 Michigan jobs and what I have done to get the chips and science act passed and signed into law.
02:00:02.166 --> 02:00:12.149
[UNKNOWN]: What my opponent needs to answer is why is the GOP spending thousands of dollars to prop up his campaign saying that he will make my graduates the next U.S.
02:00:12.189 --> 02:00:12.589
[UNKNOWN]: Senator?
02:00:14.890 --> 02:00:17.191
[UNKNOWN]: And they think we're very close to Republicans.
02:00:17.211 --> 02:00:25.195
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, probably for the same reason that, you know, the Democratic Party push so hard to get Trump to be the Republican nominee.
02:00:25.475 --> 02:00:27.116
[UNKNOWN]: It's called the Pied Piper stretch.
02:00:27.136 --> 02:00:38.802
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's called listening to the exact same advisors and consultant class that got us in the situation we are in now, and maybe we should stop listening to them.
02:00:38.822 --> 02:00:41.403
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what people are realizing, and that's why good luck.
02:00:42.267 --> 02:00:44.469
[UNKNOWN]: We got another clip.
02:00:44.709 --> 02:00:45.289
[UNKNOWN]: I love clips.
02:00:45.670 --> 02:00:52.075
[UNKNOWN]: By organizations like the Center for Democratic Priorities, which, by the way, didn't exist until it started to run ads for my opponent.
02:00:52.475 --> 02:00:56.538
[UNKNOWN]: Like the United Democratic Progressives, which, by the way, is a front-frame.
02:00:56.558 --> 02:01:02.703
[UNKNOWN]: A front-frame which bought airline tickets for my opponent for her mother and herself to go to Portugal.
02:01:02.723 --> 02:01:04.524
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what they talked about, I don't know what they did.
02:01:04.865 --> 02:01:08.948
[UNKNOWN]: So if we want to talk about lies, I think it's really important for us to understand who's paying for them.
02:01:09.048 --> 02:01:11.450
[UNKNOWN]: And what was set on the back end to allow them to be told,
02:01:12.030 --> 02:01:13.431
[UNKNOWN]: and dollars just it doesn't come for free.
02:01:13.651 --> 02:01:29.822
[UNKNOWN]: Wait you guys I'm you know what I just realized that whole thing was a set up I think the the I'm not even doing like a funny huh I really because I just look for for this on Twitter I was looking for something on Twitter and near a tandem oh yeah okay so near a
02:01:31.383 --> 02:01:32.925
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, this is interesting.
02:01:33.365 --> 02:01:33.665
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:01:33.685 --> 02:01:34.666
[UNKNOWN]: This is very interesting.
02:01:34.786 --> 02:01:35.047
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:01:35.407 --> 02:01:37.229
[UNKNOWN]: Who's Andrew Bates and see.
02:01:37.249 --> 02:01:38.170
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:01:38.230 --> 02:01:39.251
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know who he is.
02:01:39.511 --> 02:01:42.634
[UNKNOWN]: But he tweeted out that clip that we just saw.
02:01:55.167 --> 02:01:57.229
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I know what we're going with this.
02:01:57.650 --> 02:02:01.032
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so what happens is near-tand and clips this clip, right?
02:02:01.132 --> 02:02:09.780
[UNKNOWN]: Now, we just thought it was funny because it was like, oh, imagine what it would look like if like down a bash we're honest and had integrity and it was like, actually this person is not an anti-semit, okay?
02:02:10.020 --> 02:02:13.082
[UNKNOWN]: But she means, no, this person is not an anti-semit.
02:02:13.483 --> 02:02:15.965
[UNKNOWN]: Here, Netanyahu won't fully will lose his jab.
02:02:16.465 --> 02:02:23.008
[UNKNOWN]: Here attacks Haley for Michigan for staying the Abius fact that Netanyahu is making Jews in America in the world.
02:02:23.028 --> 02:02:23.588
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see.
02:02:23.648 --> 02:02:24.348
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, baby.
02:02:24.369 --> 02:02:24.829
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:02:24.929 --> 02:02:27.770
[UNKNOWN]: Get your money back for that photo ops that you took with him.
02:02:27.910 --> 02:02:28.150
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:02:28.530 --> 02:02:31.532
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and this is she quotes that the the clip that we just saw.
02:02:31.552 --> 02:02:31.652
[UNKNOWN]: So.
02:02:32.677 --> 02:02:39.223
[UNKNOWN]: Coincidentally, someone's going to accuse me of faking it because I have two things in a row, but that's just no, that's kind of Twitter works.
02:02:39.563 --> 02:02:49.733
[UNKNOWN]: So a son rates given that Haley Stevens brought this attack up twice on the bait stage, even though she's gotten 34 million from a pack and other packs and beginning to suspect this moment was coordinate.
02:02:49.753 --> 02:02:50.594
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, absolutely.
02:02:50.634 --> 02:02:51.375
[UNKNOWN]: Very good.
02:02:51.435 --> 02:02:53.817
[UNKNOWN]: And then Adam Johnson, friend of the shows.
02:02:54.277 --> 02:02:56.519
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Siri pull up the fakeest thing about time.
02:02:56.539 --> 02:02:57.120
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.
02:02:57.200 --> 02:02:58.301
[UNKNOWN]: So that's what that was.
02:02:58.381 --> 02:03:00.582
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's that's 100% correct.
02:03:00.682 --> 02:03:00.923
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:03:00.963 --> 02:03:06.166
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and this is what we've been this is what we've been tracking and predicting that like I was saying on the last episode.
02:03:06.386 --> 02:03:13.891
[UNKNOWN]: I said that yes, that it's now it's gonna this is I had a question actually for for the APAC trackers that we didn't get to which is like,
02:03:27.197 --> 02:03:32.961
[UNKNOWN]: how to sound confrontational and every serial on his real without being that at all.
02:03:33.041 --> 02:03:33.981
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, exactly.
02:03:34.242 --> 02:03:34.562
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
02:03:34.702 --> 02:03:36.963
[UNKNOWN]: We in real time just discovered something.
02:03:37.264 --> 02:03:37.464
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:03:37.564 --> 02:03:38.785
[UNKNOWN]: Now on the one hand,
02:03:39.981 --> 02:03:40.422
[UNKNOWN]: my life.
02:03:40.782 --> 02:03:42.364
[UNKNOWN]: On the other hand, Hallelujah.
02:03:42.384 --> 02:03:43.085
[UNKNOWN]: Joy to the world.
02:03:43.125 --> 02:03:43.906
[UNKNOWN]: Look where we're at.
02:03:44.166 --> 02:03:45.908
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's Hallelujah, but now we have to.
02:03:45.948 --> 02:03:49.733
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's a sign of victory, but we also have to look what they need to do now.
02:03:49.753 --> 02:03:49.973
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:03:50.333 --> 02:03:58.163
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, what else, another thing that we need to stay tuned for is that ramen manual here, Brad, can we take a look at this?
02:03:58.663 --> 02:04:01.465
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes, I've been wanting to watch this.
02:04:01.625 --> 02:04:02.846
[UNKNOWN]: I have it saved.
02:04:02.886 --> 02:04:08.809
[UNKNOWN]: This is Roman manual, a Tel Aviv university talking about what he's not, is he there yet?
02:04:09.069 --> 02:04:10.410
[UNKNOWN]: He's he's going to tell it.
02:04:10.450 --> 02:04:11.611
[UNKNOWN]: He's giving us a preview.
02:04:11.631 --> 02:04:13.092
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, tomorrow and not here.
02:04:13.132 --> 02:04:14.973
[UNKNOWN]: He's doing a trailer for him.
02:04:15.113 --> 02:04:19.615
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he had Tel Aviv University about the future of Israel in the Democratic Party.
02:04:19.875 --> 02:04:25.239
[UNKNOWN]: And it'll be very interesting to see how they, uh, how they thread this has bar and needle,
02:04:28.808 --> 02:04:32.870
[UNKNOWN]: Tomorrow at 930 AM ET at Tel Aviv University.
02:04:32.930 --> 02:04:36.673
[UNKNOWN]: I'll lay out where I believe the U.S. is real relationship here.
02:04:36.813 --> 02:04:39.014
[UNKNOWN]: That's in tabay time.
02:04:39.554 --> 02:04:44.717
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't come to flat or anyone I came because real friends tell each other her truth and tomorrow I will stay tuned.
02:04:44.777 --> 02:04:45.738
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so now let's play it.
02:04:45.978 --> 02:04:47.639
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, great, great stuff.
02:04:47.659 --> 02:04:49.520
[UNKNOWN]: Let's play that again, this isn't this speech.
02:04:50.000 --> 02:04:52.282
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be addressing the U.S. is real alliance.
02:04:52.942 --> 02:04:54.343
[UNKNOWN]: Where it is and where it must go.
02:04:55.349 --> 02:04:57.772
[UNKNOWN]: Prime Minister Netanyahu has led his role.
02:04:58.032 --> 02:05:00.356
[UNKNOWN]: The US is all alliance into a dead end.
02:05:00.616 --> 02:05:01.477
[UNKNOWN]: It's at a tipping point.
02:05:02.218 --> 02:05:04.361
[UNKNOWN]: The status quo is no longer sustainable.
02:05:04.921 --> 02:05:09.828
[UNKNOWN]: We need a path for Palestinian self-determination and sovereignty and a path for Israel's security.
02:05:09.908 --> 02:05:10.168
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
02:05:10.449 --> 02:05:11.730
[UNKNOWN]: I have a lot of ideas.
02:05:11.750 --> 02:05:13.533
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's this young whippersnaid process.
02:05:13.993 --> 02:05:19.558
[UNKNOWN]: economic integration and making sure that this region, the mid-East, is more stable and more secure.
02:05:19.578 --> 02:05:20.879
[UNKNOWN]: You have to start saying what stage you have.
02:05:20.899 --> 02:05:23.061
[UNKNOWN]: You want to see like a Wokean.
02:05:23.081 --> 02:05:23.862
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, baby.
02:05:24.102 --> 02:05:24.603
[UNKNOWN]: Andy.
02:05:24.823 --> 02:05:25.223
[UNKNOWN]: Manna.
02:05:25.263 --> 02:05:25.784
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, you got to.
02:05:25.804 --> 02:05:27.545
[UNKNOWN]: He's got to call it right in you the speech.
02:05:27.986 --> 02:05:28.586
[UNKNOWN]: So you can read it.
02:05:29.087 --> 02:05:33.070
[UNKNOWN]: The opportunity to link and watch the speech in the questions at the university.
02:05:33.531 --> 02:05:35.693
[UNKNOWN]: And a direction that also knows and recognizes.
02:05:36.253 --> 02:05:37.695
[UNKNOWN]: What we're doing today is not working.
02:05:37.735 --> 02:05:38.616
[UNKNOWN]: What are we doing today?
02:05:38.696 --> 02:05:42.161
[UNKNOWN]: Leadership and the idea isn't Christenly to change.
02:05:42.181 --> 02:05:47.288
[UNKNOWN]: Suddenly, these f***ing low layers is sustainable with the Prime Minister has done for the Alliance.
02:05:48.073 --> 02:05:53.817
[UNKNOWN]: We need what's the alliance new requirements you'll tell me about that alliance though I think you know what this is.
02:05:53.977 --> 02:05:54.958
[UNKNOWN]: I love an alloy.
02:05:54.978 --> 02:05:55.619
[UNKNOWN]: Let's send ready.
02:05:55.779 --> 02:05:59.101
[UNKNOWN]: We'll alloy exactly because they're doing this merger Bell.
02:05:59.221 --> 02:06:03.784
[UNKNOWN]: I think yes Dennis Cassinnitch was just on Tucker Carlson talking about this.
02:06:04.065 --> 02:06:14.993
[UNKNOWN]: He was on the Katie Howard for show For four years That's you know what give me your Wow Katie Joe deals by association But he was on like today.
02:06:15.033 --> 02:06:15.373
[UNKNOWN]: I'm saying
02:06:16.133 --> 02:06:17.273
[UNKNOWN]: He was on my show Friday.
02:06:17.493 --> 02:06:17.953
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, really?
02:06:18.114 --> 02:06:18.494
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:06:18.814 --> 02:06:20.454
[UNKNOWN]: I, as the Katie, how about show Bump?
02:06:20.474 --> 02:06:21.814
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think I'm on to talk about?
02:06:21.854 --> 02:06:23.295
[UNKNOWN]: No, but we got to get this thing.
02:06:23.375 --> 02:06:24.715
[UNKNOWN]: We got to get this thing.
02:06:25.055 --> 02:06:26.236
[UNKNOWN]: We got to get Cassina's for sure.
02:06:26.536 --> 02:06:27.936
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'll let you want me in.
02:06:28.996 --> 02:06:30.597
[UNKNOWN]: No, we're too stupid.
02:06:30.857 --> 02:06:32.257
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yes, sorry, you're right.
02:06:32.377 --> 02:06:33.037
[UNKNOWN]: Don't listen to me.
02:06:33.197 --> 02:06:33.978
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:06:33.998 --> 02:06:35.678
[UNKNOWN]: But listen, listen, ready.
02:06:36.118 --> 02:06:38.759
[UNKNOWN]: So they are trying to do this thing.
02:06:38.959 --> 02:06:42.880
[UNKNOWN]: I was actually just talking to Nate about this earlier that the merger,
02:06:43.912 --> 02:06:50.638
[UNKNOWN]: They're trying to do this merger and this talking point is like, even Laura Lumer, she's, well, Laura Lumer is it totally insane.
02:06:50.658 --> 02:06:58.865
[UNKNOWN]: She's like, we need to cut like, like, the United States needs to stop holding Israel back, like, let's sever the relationship, you know, because we're such a restraining force.
02:07:00.246 --> 02:07:09.331
[UNKNOWN]: But, but the thing is that they are trying to say, like, Nanyahu talked about this in an interview with, what's his name, Sergeant Garrett, major, major Garrett.
02:07:09.351 --> 02:07:12.253
[UNKNOWN]: I was confused, like, what position is Colonel Garrett, Major Garrett?
02:07:12.573 --> 02:07:16.475
[UNKNOWN]: He said something about a partnership and, like, not paying for weapons anymore.
02:07:16.835 --> 02:07:21.918
[UNKNOWN]: And I think this is a way for people to pretend to be America first, right?
02:07:21.938 --> 02:07:22.759
[UNKNOWN]: Like, we're not going to,
02:07:23.858 --> 02:07:25.900
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, am I doing it backwards?
02:07:25.960 --> 02:07:35.027
[UNKNOWN]: Basically, they want it to be a partnership instead of, I need you want, do you want a little extra time to do your book report?
02:07:35.047 --> 02:07:36.868
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to put it in, do you want to hand it in?
02:07:36.908 --> 02:07:44.434
[UNKNOWN]: I think I just, I just contradicted myself because I thought that there would be way, no, no, they're trying to do, we're on.
02:07:44.734 --> 02:07:47.877
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to think of all the time.
02:07:50.545 --> 02:07:53.486
[UNKNOWN]: All right, must have been a new one.
02:07:54.467 --> 02:07:56.467
[UNKNOWN]: They're partner, not clients.
02:07:56.527 --> 02:08:01.049
[UNKNOWN]: So they're trying to say that they, it's a little contradictory, right?
02:08:01.129 --> 02:08:09.253
[UNKNOWN]: But that's the kind of the point because there's so much of your occasion, but one of the new talking points is that we should be selling them weapons, not giving them weapons.
02:08:09.593 --> 02:08:09.933
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:08:11.110 --> 02:08:14.151
[UNKNOWN]: And but is that going to be consistent with the partnership?
02:08:14.211 --> 02:08:17.211
[UNKNOWN]: I wonder the merrier the let's be clear about what this merger is.
02:08:17.231 --> 02:08:20.832
[UNKNOWN]: Because I was shocked when I heard Houston is described.
02:08:21.192 --> 02:08:21.792
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:08:22.033 --> 02:08:23.233
[UNKNOWN]: Tell us it.
02:08:24.053 --> 02:08:31.515
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I know it's like entire it will you actually like you did because, you know, you spoke to the guy, but from what I understood correct me wrong.
02:08:31.535 --> 02:08:32.715
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're talking about.
02:08:33.826 --> 02:08:51.415
[UNKNOWN]: merging the two armies, the two militaries, complete intelligence sharing, Israel has discretion over appropriations over, you know, over the U.S. is trillion now dollar war budget and complete in total coordination.
02:08:52.275 --> 02:08:53.036
[UNKNOWN]: Am I right about this?
02:08:53.536 --> 02:08:54.536
[UNKNOWN]: Like how far does it go?
02:08:54.836 --> 02:08:55.817
[UNKNOWN]: Is there any limit on it?
02:08:56.634 --> 02:09:12.648
[UNKNOWN]: There's no duplication, which was something that he said, and I asked him about what exactly made this new, because there is a lot of mergers that already exist, but I think there's like, we'll be even less oversight.
02:09:13.108 --> 02:09:15.911
[UNKNOWN]: And the big thing that he was very scared of is the biotech stuff.
02:09:16.191 --> 02:09:16.972
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, for sure.
02:09:17.272 --> 02:09:21.094
[UNKNOWN]: And it's also folded into a thousand page bill.
02:09:21.174 --> 02:09:22.395
[UNKNOWN]: It's another one of these mega bills.
02:09:22.435 --> 02:09:23.436
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just in there somewhere.
02:09:23.816 --> 02:09:24.916
[UNKNOWN]: And they changed the rules.
02:09:25.177 --> 02:09:26.097
[UNKNOWN]: So it's just up or down.
02:09:26.157 --> 02:09:27.038
[UNKNOWN]: There's no committee.
02:09:27.058 --> 02:09:28.239
[UNKNOWN]: There's no points of order.
02:09:28.259 --> 02:09:33.041
[UNKNOWN]: There's no, you know, subcommittees, nothing like they're really ramming it through.
02:09:33.202 --> 02:09:33.462
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:09:34.502 --> 02:09:42.544
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, from what I can tell, and you know, of course, know everything about it, I'm just letting you guys talk and say all the things.
02:09:42.784 --> 02:09:49.566
[UNKNOWN]: From what I understand, it just makes explicit what was at this point fundamentally implicit.
02:09:51.706 --> 02:09:54.587
[UNKNOWN]: It does do concrete things as well, but.
02:09:55.790 --> 02:10:01.416
[UNKNOWN]: At this point, there's no more daylight now in once this bill is passed, which I believe has been passed.
02:10:01.496 --> 02:10:02.297
[UNKNOWN]: Am I wrong about that?
02:10:02.357 --> 02:10:03.298
[UNKNOWN]: No, it hasn't been passed.
02:10:03.358 --> 02:10:04.319
[UNKNOWN]: Has not been passed yet.
02:10:04.339 --> 02:10:04.800
[UNKNOWN]: They have not been.
02:10:04.820 --> 02:10:06.181
[UNKNOWN]: The Congress is out for R&D until the 13th.
02:10:06.201 --> 02:10:08.224
[UNKNOWN]: The national defense, something something, Bill, with authorization, authorization, yeah.
02:10:08.244 --> 02:10:16.092
[UNKNOWN]: And, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
02:10:16.212 --> 02:10:27.882
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just a, it ends the day light between the United States and and Israel's militaries, which, you know, there's it's a terrible thing, of course.
02:10:28.562 --> 02:10:40.432
[UNKNOWN]: It is also just making something explicit, which at this point has been fairly implied for a long time in terms of the the way in which the United States and.
02:10:41.413 --> 02:10:44.535
[UNKNOWN]: Israel's military industrial complex is seem to be one and the same.
02:10:44.795 --> 02:10:49.477
[UNKNOWN]: And so it much in the way that Trump just says the quiet part out loud.
02:10:49.517 --> 02:10:52.199
[UNKNOWN]: It is the bill seems to me to be the quiet part out loud.
02:10:52.239 --> 02:11:04.605
[UNKNOWN]: That's what it seems, you know, but of course, when written into law, it makes trying to remove those, you know, those hooks between the United States and Israel.
02:11:04.825 --> 02:11:05.565
[UNKNOWN]: It makes it all the
02:11:09.248 --> 02:11:11.626
[UNKNOWN]: I think that it's a really frightening part of it.
02:11:12.616 --> 02:11:19.940
[UNKNOWN]: And if they want to do it out loud, they should open the books, let their constituents know they're doing this and let the American people have their say, they're doing the quiet part out loud, very quiet.
02:11:20.020 --> 02:11:21.260
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure.
02:11:21.320 --> 02:11:21.900
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:11:21.920 --> 02:11:27.163
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, I'm going to show some, we have some shorts from this because we Patreon some of this.
02:11:27.383 --> 02:11:41.250
[UNKNOWN]: This is actually a good way to tease that Patreon, but we, if you watch it live, you're in luck because you've got to see this entire thing with Dennis, but actually here, Brad, I'm going to, I'm going to send you right now
02:11:42.210 --> 02:11:44.711
[UNKNOWN]: some a little shorts from cream yard.
02:11:45.191 --> 02:11:46.991
[UNKNOWN]: Just real, just real quick, Katie.
02:11:47.091 --> 02:11:48.751
[UNKNOWN]: I have about eight more minutes than I got it.
02:11:48.911 --> 02:11:50.392
[UNKNOWN]: Then I got to put my daughter down.
02:11:50.852 --> 02:11:55.833
[UNKNOWN]: All right, you know what, then I won't, I won't use you as a bouncing, like a, what's the expression?
02:11:56.053 --> 02:11:56.633
[UNKNOWN]: Sounding board.
02:11:56.893 --> 02:12:00.074
[UNKNOWN]: Sounding board for Dennis, because then it's always a sound board.
02:12:00.834 --> 02:12:03.354
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, crazy dudes.
02:12:03.754 --> 02:12:06.115
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I'm singing on this show.
02:12:06.235 --> 02:12:07.215
[UNKNOWN]: You're emotionally down.
02:12:07.935 --> 02:12:08.395
[UNKNOWN]: How about this?
02:12:08.455 --> 02:12:11.716
[UNKNOWN]: Why don't you after Matt goes Daniel with him off some of these shorts?
02:12:12.296 --> 02:12:14.836
[UNKNOWN]: You'll be like, you'll be like this in the short line.
02:12:14.856 --> 02:12:17.577
[UNKNOWN]: Really great.
02:12:17.617 --> 02:12:19.317
[UNKNOWN]: It was just like, oh, I'm sorry.
02:12:19.517 --> 02:12:22.518
[UNKNOWN]: I have to leave an eight minute suit because I don't want to be on anymore.
02:12:24.118 --> 02:12:27.278
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because I want to accompany Matt.
02:12:29.779 --> 02:12:33.139
[UNKNOWN]: I'm usually the Matt Matt usually face times me and so I can read his daughter a bit.
02:12:33.239 --> 02:12:33.739
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
02:12:33.759 --> 02:12:34.039
[UNKNOWN]: It's true.
02:12:34.079 --> 02:12:35.060
[UNKNOWN]: It may prefers my voice.
02:12:35.160 --> 02:12:36.640
[UNKNOWN]: Your voice is nicer though.
02:12:37.655 --> 02:12:38.615
[UNKNOWN]: It is a good night.
02:12:38.915 --> 02:12:39.735
[UNKNOWN]: Good night, moon.
02:12:39.855 --> 02:12:40.756
[UNKNOWN]: Have you ever heard of him?
02:12:40.936 --> 02:12:42.136
[UNKNOWN]: Good night, spoon.
02:12:42.496 --> 02:12:44.936
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's way, but I'm getting horny.
02:12:46.077 --> 02:12:49.497
[UNKNOWN]: Good night, cow that jumped over the moon.
02:12:49.637 --> 02:12:51.078
[UNKNOWN]: Do you really breathe kids books?
02:12:51.458 --> 02:12:52.918
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody could look.
02:12:52.978 --> 02:12:53.358
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it could.
02:12:53.378 --> 02:12:53.538
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:12:53.738 --> 02:12:54.798
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:12:54.858 --> 02:12:58.399
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Matt in the in the six second six minutes, you have last.
02:12:58.479 --> 02:12:59.719
[UNKNOWN]: What would you like to talk about?
02:13:00.119 --> 02:13:02.400
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, there's a lot of things.
02:13:02.900 --> 02:13:03.680
[UNKNOWN]: We're going.
02:13:04.508 --> 02:13:11.058
[UNKNOWN]: You want to talk about what's happening at the ice house in Pasadena, in the center.
02:13:11.779 --> 02:13:14.203
[UNKNOWN]: I like how she asked me what I want to talk about in the left.
02:13:14.464 --> 02:13:15.085
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, a dog.
02:13:15.877 --> 02:13:17.157
[UNKNOWN]: Um, want to break my baby.
02:13:17.638 --> 02:13:19.198
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I think you're the only one with a baby.
02:13:19.618 --> 02:13:20.759
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we'll talk about the baby.
02:13:20.799 --> 02:13:21.579
[UNKNOWN]: We all got babies.
02:13:21.899 --> 02:13:22.739
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I like it.
02:13:22.919 --> 02:13:27.621
[UNKNOWN]: One thing I want to talk about is how I will be at the ice house in Pasadena on July 11th.
02:13:27.661 --> 02:13:29.182
[UNKNOWN]: That's the Saturday at APM.
02:13:29.302 --> 02:13:31.782
[UNKNOWN]: My birthday happy birthday, Katie.
02:13:31.922 --> 02:13:32.743
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know that.
02:13:32.903 --> 02:13:33.363
[UNKNOWN]: 11, baby.
02:13:33.523 --> 02:13:35.384
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 7, 11.
02:13:35.644 --> 02:13:37.984
[UNKNOWN]: That's a, that's an, that really is an awesome birthday.
02:13:38.185 --> 02:13:39.025
[UNKNOWN]: What a cute dog.
02:13:39.045 --> 02:13:39.525
[UNKNOWN]: I really want.
02:13:40.505 --> 02:13:41.186
[UNKNOWN]: I want a kiss.
02:13:41.226 --> 02:13:41.806
[UNKNOWN]: That dog.
02:13:42.306 --> 02:13:44.307
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I bring body, but she's not with me right now.
02:13:45.691 --> 02:13:54.823
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but yeah, so if you are someone who is in the L.A. area, Pasadena area come to the ice house on July 11th, 8pm, it's going to be really fun.
02:13:55.323 --> 02:14:02.973
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, what's the last thing the last thing I could talk about before I have to leave in six minutes is I guess I could talk about how much how cute your dog is.
02:14:03.532 --> 02:14:04.453
[UNKNOWN]: I'm really curious.
02:14:05.074 --> 02:14:07.797
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, let's show my, let's show the campaign ad that just dropped.
02:14:07.817 --> 02:14:09.399
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, show me some of the campaign.
02:14:09.700 --> 02:14:13.144
[UNKNOWN]: Helly, helly Stevens campaign merch.
02:14:13.424 --> 02:14:14.545
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, she got new merch.
02:14:15.106 --> 02:14:16.147
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's take a look at this.
02:14:16.187 --> 02:14:18.010
[UNKNOWN]: Finally new merch merch drop.
02:14:19.054 --> 02:14:24.275
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, I made that that took me way too long.
02:14:24.975 --> 02:14:32.357
[UNKNOWN]: And for people who can't can't see it, it says, Haley Stevens, first U.S. and an I dream of not Jeannie B.
02:14:32.397 --> 02:14:33.057
[UNKNOWN]: Very good.
02:14:33.077 --> 02:14:34.018
[UNKNOWN]: I did a pretty good job.
02:14:34.058 --> 02:14:34.578
[UNKNOWN]: I like it.
02:14:34.758 --> 02:14:36.918
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, that, you know, I did a call.
02:14:37.198 --> 02:14:38.018
[UNKNOWN]: I used Canva.
02:14:38.058 --> 02:14:40.039
[UNKNOWN]: Canva, you really should pay for for.
02:14:40.519 --> 02:14:41.160
[UNKNOWN]: Canva.
02:14:41.320 --> 02:14:42.200
[UNKNOWN]: It really is good.
02:14:42.281 --> 02:14:47.545
[UNKNOWN]: I really hope it's not Israeli because I really canva.
02:14:47.585 --> 02:14:48.245
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's the thing.
02:14:48.285 --> 02:14:57.713
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, why don't stream you out right now, because Riverside, you know, for those of you who are sad isn't very good for video, Riverside's not great for video, but it is also is an Israeli company.
02:14:57.853 --> 02:15:02.097
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't from the Riverside to the seaside, we don't want to be supporting G-side.
02:15:02.756 --> 02:15:03.877
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so that's good.
02:15:04.037 --> 02:15:19.369
[UNKNOWN]: Actually we should be paid by stream yard because we're being how we're they're getting pretty good not so enthusiastic low bar endorsements like use stream yard colon not genocide all right.
02:15:19.589 --> 02:15:23.753
[UNKNOWN]: It's not Israeli not directly genocide Stream yard.
02:15:23.793 --> 02:15:30.338
[UNKNOWN]: It's not Israeli but enough for me even though we have a random error every other recording
02:15:30.638 --> 02:15:32.879
[UNKNOWN]: someone roll candy and yiddish is crazy.
02:15:32.899 --> 02:15:33.500
[UNKNOWN]: Is that true?
02:15:33.960 --> 02:15:34.940
[UNKNOWN]: What's can be in Yiddish?
02:15:35.761 --> 02:15:36.541
[UNKNOWN]: The word canva?
02:15:36.922 --> 02:15:37.042
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:15:37.062 --> 02:15:37.522
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:15:38.422 --> 02:15:39.043
[UNKNOWN]: He's can't.
02:15:39.163 --> 02:15:39.803
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that's true.
02:15:39.823 --> 02:15:40.203
[UNKNOWN]: That's true.
02:15:40.223 --> 02:15:40.544
[UNKNOWN]: That's true.
02:15:40.564 --> 02:15:40.844
[UNKNOWN]: That's true.
02:15:40.864 --> 02:15:41.244
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure.
02:15:41.564 --> 02:15:42.045
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
02:15:42.665 --> 02:15:46.147
[UNKNOWN]: I guess, oh, they could be saying canva is at, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:15:46.582 --> 02:15:51.304
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, someone asked where I when you use can the on a Yiddish computer, maybe it does crazy thing.
02:15:51.364 --> 02:15:51.744
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:15:52.184 --> 02:15:54.905
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, camping Yiddish is crazy.
02:15:54.925 --> 02:16:03.188
[UNKNOWN]: But I, that seems unlikely to me, it creates all these, I don't know why this is why I don't read comments.
02:16:04.316 --> 02:16:06.938
[UNKNOWN]: I don't read comments because I don't want to parse what they mean.
02:16:07.458 --> 02:16:10.140
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I guess you have to lie on both shows, Matt.
02:16:10.160 --> 02:16:14.242
[UNKNOWN]: Like, like, like, I'm just supposed to sit here and act like you don't read them.
02:16:14.282 --> 02:16:16.243
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, you don't respond to comments.
02:16:16.263 --> 02:16:19.425
[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes I relax your ears that you never argue with hogs.
02:16:19.765 --> 02:16:21.807
[UNKNOWN]: You just go and you have a big, like, the bait.
02:16:21.867 --> 02:16:22.347
[UNKNOWN]: The hogs.
02:16:22.367 --> 02:16:22.967
[UNKNOWN]: The bait.
02:16:22.987 --> 02:16:24.088
[UNKNOWN]: We call all our listeners hogs.
02:16:24.128 --> 02:16:24.548
[UNKNOWN]: Not yours.
02:16:24.989 --> 02:16:25.769
[UNKNOWN]: Yours are not hogs.
02:16:25.929 --> 02:16:26.449
[UNKNOWN]: Everyone's hurt.
02:16:26.630 --> 02:16:27.310
[UNKNOWN]: They're all hogs.
02:16:27.510 --> 02:16:28.811
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, oh, you do.
02:16:28.831 --> 02:16:29.971
[UNKNOWN]: I heard you talk about slot.
02:16:30.011 --> 02:16:30.692
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the slot.
02:16:30.732 --> 02:16:31.672
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're all hot.
02:16:31.732 --> 02:16:36.195
[UNKNOWN]: But Brad says that comments are like the sun never looked directly at them.
02:16:36.335 --> 02:16:37.215
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I try not.
02:16:37.235 --> 02:16:42.938
[UNKNOWN]: So some interesting sons in your comments here, including a couple of super one, super chats.
02:16:43.198 --> 02:16:52.823
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I'm just using views on on race and Islam and yeah, I saw super chat that was Islamophobic, which I was like, man, that's crazy.
02:16:52.843 --> 02:16:54.824
[UNKNOWN]: It's been five dollars to do race.
02:16:56.225 --> 02:16:56.405
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:16:56.565 --> 02:16:57.826
[UNKNOWN]: You can do that for free at it.
02:16:58.466 --> 02:17:03.168
[UNKNOWN]: Um, anyways, guys, Katie, thank you for having me on.
02:17:03.268 --> 02:17:03.608
[UNKNOWN]: I really.
02:17:03.648 --> 02:17:04.289
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for coming.
02:17:04.309 --> 02:17:04.529
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:17:04.689 --> 02:17:05.689
[UNKNOWN]: I, I really do love.
02:17:06.029 --> 02:17:16.194
[UNKNOWN]: I like when I almost figured out that that I almost unraveled a big conspiracy, but then I got it backwards, but let's, uh, you, you have a good night, Matt, you have fun with your kid.
02:17:16.274 --> 02:17:19.856
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to, I'm going to show people some of the reasons they should become patrons.
02:17:19.896 --> 02:17:20.156
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
02:17:20.176 --> 02:17:22.537
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to show people some of the reasons they should become patrons.
02:17:22.557 --> 02:17:22.777
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
02:17:22.817 --> 02:17:24.818
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be able to see the full, uh, Samira Moya Hadine response.
02:17:24.838 --> 02:17:25.058
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
02:17:25.078 --> 02:17:25.218
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:17:25.459 --> 02:17:27.571
[UNKNOWN]: Before we go, let's be speaking of Jesse Brown.
02:17:27.692 --> 02:17:28.597
[UNKNOWN]: I just wanted to say.
02:17:29.674 --> 02:17:35.238
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if we should send out an APB because Motherfucker hasn't tweeted literally in nine days.
02:17:35.258 --> 02:17:35.739
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
02:17:35.839 --> 02:17:42.503
[UNKNOWN]: And then he posted the supposedly, take down to sparaging clip of me saying, yeah, I've got contempt.
02:17:42.744 --> 02:17:43.004
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:17:43.044 --> 02:17:43.464
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:17:43.484 --> 02:17:45.686
[UNKNOWN]: Like he literally, like that's not there.
02:17:45.986 --> 02:17:46.607
[UNKNOWN]: There it is.
02:17:46.647 --> 02:17:47.207
[UNKNOWN]: There it is.
02:17:47.487 --> 02:17:48.008
[UNKNOWN]: On there.
02:17:48.148 --> 02:17:48.988
[UNKNOWN]: It's down.
02:17:49.008 --> 02:17:49.569
[UNKNOWN]: There it is.
02:17:49.689 --> 02:17:50.049
[UNKNOWN]: Damn.
02:17:50.089 --> 02:17:52.651
[UNKNOWN]: There's two ways to lose the debate online.
02:17:52.671 --> 02:17:55.393
[UNKNOWN]: He, the Jew and Canada, so how safe can he actually be?
02:17:55.433 --> 02:17:58.334
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, maybe he's hiding, Dan, only everything about that.
02:17:58.975 --> 02:18:00.456
[UNKNOWN]: Um, you just blew his cover.
02:18:00.956 --> 02:18:02.056
[UNKNOWN]: Now he has to relocate.
02:18:02.356 --> 02:18:03.897
[UNKNOWN]: There's two ways to lose the debate online.
02:18:04.037 --> 02:18:06.338
[UNKNOWN]: One is to constantly keep posting about how you won.
02:18:06.418 --> 02:18:09.060
[UNKNOWN]: The other is to never show your face online ever again.
02:18:09.793 --> 02:18:15.475
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Matt, you and I have this Jesse Brown connection where we both made these jokes that he took for dual challenge.
02:18:15.495 --> 02:18:15.775
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:18:16.055 --> 02:18:16.295
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:18:16.355 --> 02:18:16.876
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
02:18:16.896 --> 02:18:17.876
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot about that.
02:18:17.916 --> 02:18:18.176
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:18:18.236 --> 02:18:19.277
[UNKNOWN]: That happened to you, too.
02:18:19.637 --> 02:18:22.098
[UNKNOWN]: And that's, and that's how we ended up talking to me.
02:18:22.158 --> 02:18:24.579
[UNKNOWN]: I think kind of accidentally and I think you probably read it.
02:18:24.799 --> 02:18:32.081
[UNKNOWN]: Well, look, he's not the first Toronto would be bar spitter to lose, uh, to lose a rap
02:18:34.468 --> 02:18:35.549
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
02:18:36.029 --> 02:18:36.890
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:18:37.651 --> 02:18:38.391
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks, Matt.
02:18:38.552 --> 02:18:40.793
[UNKNOWN]: I'm at love you, Matt.
02:18:40.974 --> 02:18:42.515
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:18:42.635 --> 02:18:43.916
[UNKNOWN]: Now, let's look at the coup.
02:18:43.976 --> 02:18:44.877
[UNKNOWN]: The coups is loose.
02:18:45.417 --> 02:18:46.178
[UNKNOWN]: Here's Kocenish.
02:18:46.858 --> 02:18:51.802
[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look into what he had to say about this NDA thing.
02:18:52.723 --> 02:18:54.104
[UNKNOWN]: And wait, there's one other thing.
02:18:55.065 --> 02:18:58.488
[UNKNOWN]: Biotech is included, biotechnology.
02:19:00.757 --> 02:19:05.901
[UNKNOWN]: uh, is included, which means green shirts with pathogens, okay?
02:19:06.302 --> 02:19:12.267
[UNKNOWN]: Now keep in mind, Israel never joined a biological weapons convention.
02:19:13.328 --> 02:19:14.989
[UNKNOWN]: So they don't have any obligation here.
02:19:15.009 --> 02:19:21.514
[UNKNOWN]: So we bring them in and they'll have access to, uh, to develop them with bio weapons.
02:19:22.235 --> 02:19:26.538
[UNKNOWN]: Now, if they're inside and these crimes are committed,
02:19:30.165 --> 02:19:31.085
[UNKNOWN]: It stops right there.
02:19:31.185 --> 02:19:31.806
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
02:19:31.826 --> 02:19:32.866
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't even mean to do that.
02:19:32.926 --> 02:19:33.487
[UNKNOWN]: It's such a tease.
02:19:33.547 --> 02:19:33.727
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:19:33.747 --> 02:19:36.428
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see a little bit this creates a formal structure.
02:19:38.949 --> 02:19:48.413
[UNKNOWN]: The other ones were agreements here and there that provided for the kind of cooperation as the malevolent as it may be.
02:19:50.014 --> 02:19:52.375
[UNKNOWN]: At the moment, this is a formal structure.
02:19:53.038 --> 02:20:03.240
[UNKNOWN]: And it has long term implications, it can't be changed really, because they're creating an executive assistant who actually is going to have powers that would be on the equal to the Secretary of Defense.
02:20:04.381 --> 02:20:12.143
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're talking about a technology transfer, I mean, there are concerns that sensitive
02:20:23.452 --> 02:20:40.601
[UNKNOWN]: Procurement issues here that, you know, is really origin technologies might gain statutory preference inside U.S. acquisition pathways, this would put U.S. competitors at a disadvantage.
02:20:48.654 --> 02:20:54.520
[UNKNOWN]: You have AI, there's just some of the areas that they're talking about, formally integrating.
02:20:55.360 --> 02:20:57.382
[UNKNOWN]: This isn't just what we'll work on this or that.
02:20:57.402 --> 02:21:12.996
[UNKNOWN]: No, it was just a formal integration of AI, of cyber, of quantum technologies, of electronic warfare, of missile defense, of the,
02:21:14.854 --> 02:21:16.495
[UNKNOWN]: of space-linked technologies.
02:21:16.735 --> 02:21:17.636
[UNKNOWN]: What's it going on?
02:21:17.916 --> 02:21:18.417
[UNKNOWN]: What's going on?
02:21:18.437 --> 02:21:19.097
[UNKNOWN]: What's going on?
02:21:19.337 --> 02:21:20.058
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's crazy.
02:21:20.378 --> 02:21:33.627
[UNKNOWN]: They attached, they passed, they did not permit a debate in the committee about the Massey kind of amendments because they didn't even include it in the list of amendments that would even be considered.
02:21:34.488 --> 02:21:38.130
[UNKNOWN]: They had a list, a preview, you know, a pre-conceived amendment.
02:21:38.150 --> 02:21:40.572
[UNKNOWN]: Someone else needs to be watching us and then watching them.
02:21:41.757 --> 02:21:47.620
[UNKNOWN]: attached to the bill made in order with the role and sent it to the human society.
02:21:48.181 --> 02:21:53.584
[UNKNOWN]: All the combination with the say back, 14 Republicans all the Democrats voted against it.
02:21:54.004 --> 02:21:54.865
[UNKNOWN]: The role went down.
02:21:54.925 --> 02:21:56.686
[UNKNOWN]: Now, what happens if the rule goes down?
02:21:58.247 --> 02:21:59.167
[UNKNOWN]: They can't get to the bill.
02:21:59.367 --> 02:22:01.949
[UNKNOWN]: Remember, you can't, you cannot.
02:22:02.854 --> 02:22:09.359
[UNKNOWN]: Pass a bill, I mean, he showed us how it has a rule, I was worried that something confidential was going on.
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[UNKNOWN]: Rules approved, then we get to the bill, they couldn't get to the bill.
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[UNKNOWN]: So what happened?
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[UNKNOWN]: The speakers said everybody home and they're coming back on July the 13th.
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[UNKNOWN]: That week, I will promise you that don't have another meeting as a rules committee.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, then.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, is it formally integrate?
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[UNKNOWN]: Just go a little bit.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's start with the US military.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I missed the game as long as I've watched parties.
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[UNKNOWN]: So this is nice to be a part of this drilling.
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[UNKNOWN]: Cybertechnology, biotech, missile and air defense, the space program, counter-drone systems, anti-tunneling directed energy, network integration, debt integration.
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[UNKNOWN]: the the infrastructure of the wars of the future.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so it would integrate the U.S. and Israeli as as one unit.
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[UNKNOWN]: Eliminate the limiting duplications.
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[UNKNOWN]: It isn't boring.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's no other way to put it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And as such we have just we put our
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[UNKNOWN]: into jeopardy.
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[UNKNOWN]: Our sovereignty is in jeopardy.
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[UNKNOWN]: Israel assumes that we have the same objectives that Israel has.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we'll be dragging them more wars by Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mentioned it earlier.
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[UNKNOWN]: It won't be too long before we're with Turkey and each of them, you know, because that's what Israel wants as part of this Zionist ambition for
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[UNKNOWN]: an expansion.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, this was really fun.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, this was a really fun stream.
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[UNKNOWN]: Our last segment, the latest segment in the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: So there are third segment.
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[UNKNOWN]: Before that, we'll be speaking to Dr. Thayer Ahmad about Dr. Abu Saffia, who is being held as we speak.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was kidnapped.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's being tortured by Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're going to be talking about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's an extremely important case.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we've covered it before.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've had on Dr. Ahmad before.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it is a stain on the entire medical community, the fact that he is not a household name and the fact that there isn't more pressure on Israel to release this man who's only crime was literally being a doctor who happens to be Palestinian.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's his crime.
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[UNKNOWN]: also it's worth noting that he could have left he's married to a woman who is from one of the stands that you could still maybe and so he has dual citizenship he could have easily left and he stayed to help his people.
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[UNKNOWN]: But our first segment is also related to the crimes of Israel and that is a segment that we're doing with Cory Archibald who are bringing back on from a pack tracker and also her co-founder Casey Kennedy.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now before we start the show I do want to say
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[UNKNOWN]: On this episode is the Grand Platner story because I have a lot of thoughts on it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I never actually endorsed or condemned.
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[UNKNOWN]: I thought there was a lot to look into and I didn't get to it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was more kind of excited and focused on other candidates like I'm Julia Sayed who we're going to be talking about today.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't have to do this big kind of response right now, but I would be doing response to what happened because I'm someone who obviously follows politics and I think he bought curious, but in terms of like where this show came down, we didn't actually do anything on it, we didn't do an endorsement, we don't really do endorsement, but I didn't like push him or interview him or talking up.
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[UNKNOWN]: I will say, though, that we will be discussing that on the show Friday, just because I think there are a lot of really important questions relating to me too, relating to foreign policy, relating to double standards, hypocrisy, some of the worst people in the world right now are tweeting about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, anything that ever comes out of
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[UNKNOWN]: near his hand in his mouth or her fingers on Twitter is vile and dishonest, but she's really like up in her game.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm very impressed.
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[UNKNOWN]: But again, we will talk about that on Friday.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't want people to think I'm ignoring it, but I also want to make sure that people know that the focus of this show is going to be on.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm dual-scied.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think without further ado, we're going to bring on our first guests.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm very excited to be bringing them onto the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're bringing back Cory Archibald co-founder of APEC Tracker, the popular watchdog, dragging APEC's receipts into light and pressuring lawmakers to change course on Israel policy.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's a longtime progressive political strategist and fundraiser who has advised over 250 candidates for federal and state office.
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[UNKNOWN]: For six years, she led brand new Congress and was part of the team that helped launch justice Democrats and elect progressive members of Congress, like Cory Bush and Jamal Bowman, obviously targeted by APAC and bringing on to the show, making his Katie help pursue a debut, Casey Kennedy, co-founder of APAC tracker, it's a professional background in digital marketing, specializing in audience and brand development.
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[UNKNOWN]: He has spearheaded digital efforts for candidates across the political landscape from local offices to congressional races.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, honing his ability to cut through the noise and build out grassroots networks.
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[UNKNOWN]: He is the creative force behind the viral red and black graphics that have helped highlight the negative influence of APAC and Israel lobby in American politics.
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[UNKNOWN]: So welcome back, Corey, and welcome on for the first time, Casey.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hi, guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thanks so much for having us.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so glad to be back.
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[UNKNOWN]: Of course.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was it was really wonderful talking to you, Corey and I'm glad that we have this other opportunity.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to make sure that people who who didn't see the episode that we already did with you, Corey, I want to make sure they get this information, of course, case you haven't been on.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I wanted to know how did each of you get involved in this, how do you guys meet how did a pack tracker get born.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I kind of started learning about Israel and Palestine on my own around 2020 is when I first started doing some reading watching documentaries and just kind of learning about this ongoing conflict and genocide and it was something that was very alarming to me at the time and especially as I started kind of digging into what APAC was and realizing that there was this vast ecosystem of
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[UNKNOWN]: influence basically pushing a foreign government's agenda in our government was very alarming to me and whenever I talked to other people about it, I felt like they didn't really grasp what I was talking about or how serious the implications really are.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so that was just something that always stuck in the back of my mind and then fast forward a few years after October 7 we start seeing this live stream genocide on our phones every day and this kind of came back to the front of my mind because I'm seeing you know now it's much more part of the discourse
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[UNKNOWN]: to tell that line.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so I just started doing some research on, you know, where the dollar's moving around.
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[UNKNOWN]: And this isn't effective means to kind of highlight this network.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so that's when I started posting the receipt, I just started a Twitter account and posted the receipts and it took off like wildfires.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that was back in April of 2024.
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[UNKNOWN]: Within a month we had 100,000 followers and I immediately realized, you know, I work, I work, I work working in professional marketing at the time and you just don't see that sort of like organic or rapid growth, you know, that's really that's something powerful and you know, you can do something with that.
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[UNKNOWN]: around that time after that first month is actually when I got introduced to Cory because she was working on something similar and we had a mutual connection and we found out that we're working on kind of the same project but from different angles.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so we met and talked it out and decided to merge our efforts and take it from there.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, Cory, if you want to kind of pin in your side.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, totally.
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[UNKNOWN]: So as Casey said, at this around the same time that he was starting up the Twitter account, which is now grown across the multiple platforms and massively exploded in the audience growth, I was starting up a pack.
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[UNKNOWN]: My background is in packs and electoral work.
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[UNKNOWN]: I got my start with Brandon Congress nine years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was started off as a volunteer.
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[UNKNOWN]: um, it just helping out with writing the fundraising emails and helping out with other kinds of comms work, um, and then was asked to take over as chair of the board, um, and let bring to Congress for six years, and, um, and then, you know, through that also helped with the team that helped launch justice Democrats, and then, um, somewhere in that cycle, uh, also pivoted into doing political consulting work full time, and, um,
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[UNKNOWN]: It was through my work with Brandon Congress that I got to be familiar with what APEC is doing in our Democratic primaries in particular.
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[UNKNOWN]: Really, I started to notice in the 2022 cycle.
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[UNKNOWN]: I barely knew who APEC was.
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[UNKNOWN]: I knew what the name was.
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't really understand the political force that they played, but I saw that they just dropped in with a whole bunch of money against Nida Alam.
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[UNKNOWN]: in her race and then Erica Smith in her race, both in the same cycle, and then a few months later, they went in all in on against Andy Levin to install Hayley Stevens in the Congressional seat that she is currently vacating to run for Senate.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I have
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[UNKNOWN]: like longstanding beef with Haley Stevens and I'm looking to settle this here, which is why I'm really excited to be talking about this today.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it was because of that and then of course, you know, like Casey, you know, when the genocide began watching what was unfolding and feeling just horrified and knowing that the
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[UNKNOWN]: is we're acting behind the scenes and we're playing such a big role in why our lawmakers were just accepting and facilitating this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I got really mad, especially when I started to go after Jamal Bowman and Cory Bush.
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[UNKNOWN]: It pissed me off, because I worked really hard to put both of them into office, especially Cory.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so I started the pack to basically run straight a day pack.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to make a pack as politically toxic.
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[UNKNOWN]: I want to, as politically toxic as the NRA, if not more.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then like I said, that's when Casey and I got introduced and we're like, yeah, this is the same same project.
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[UNKNOWN]: We both have the same goal.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have the same project in mind.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're just coming out of different angles and so it's a natural fit and it's been it's been really great.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's a pack, a pack tracker slash track a pack is a pack.
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[UNKNOWN]: So a track API is the name of the Data Transparency Project.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the pack name is Citizens Against Data Pack Corruption.
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[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, and so that's what we, people refer to it as our political arm.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like it is all the same thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just that the project of the data reporting and the social media engagement is what we call track API.
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[UNKNOWN]: OK, great.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so what does the pack do?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, it packed us what all packs do.
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[UNKNOWN]: We spend money on elections.
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[UNKNOWN]: We support candidates.
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[UNKNOWN]: We message on the issues.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've done some independent expenditures this cycle.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've endorsed of over 130, might be over 140 by this point candidates.
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[UNKNOWN]: This cycle and have notched up a fair number of primary wins would still more to come.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so yeah, we're really excited about putting as many anti genocide candidates as possible into Congress.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because this freshman class coming into Congress is very, very exciting.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think that there's for multiple reasons not just for this issue, but definitely for the number of people who had like made
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[UNKNOWN]: This made our relationship with Israel and the genocide, a central focus of their campaign.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it's really going to be a wake-up call in the dialogue on the floor of the house next year.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right, so yeah, tell us about we're going to be talking about this Michigan race because it's so important for many reasons, but tell us a little bit about the background because, you know, it's interesting that that Haley Stevens herself is someone who as you pointed out defeated Andy Levin.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, Haley Stevens, just so people know, she is in the Democratic primary in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right now, it's between Abjila Sayed, who you endorsed, and who's been on this show, and Michigan Congresswoman Haley Stevens.
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[UNKNOWN]: So what happened is very recently, Mallory McMarrow dropped out.
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[UNKNOWN]: So now you just have these two left.
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[UNKNOWN]: Before we get to Abjila Sayed, tell us more about Haley Stevens and her political trajectory.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, KCD was starting.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll be starting.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And now you've got a personal vengeance.
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[UNKNOWN]: I do.
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[UNKNOWN]: I have a, I have a grudge to settle there.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just, I'm so angry still about the way that they attacked land 80, 11 to put her into office, but she has just always, she has been, not just on this issue, but just across the board.
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[UNKNOWN]: And this is true of a lot of the very heavily apac favored Democrats.
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[UNKNOWN]: She has one of the most conservative voting records and she has consistently voted.
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[UNKNOWN]: for, you know, for ice and like I think she signed the ice.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, card.
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[UNKNOWN]: She, you know, like good job guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: Way to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: Scoop it up all these people.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's she's just she's got a terrible record and and she prides herself on that and and and and
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[UNKNOWN]: The energy that she's bringing into this Senate race is really, she has, she has tripled down on her focus on her third dedication to Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that clip, I'm sure that you, you have cute up that you want to play the case, he's been circulating heavily.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's actually show this clip.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a listen to something that Casey Stevens actually said not in check not in character and I do have to point out I'm trying to figure out whether I should say this before we wash it or after but she's not Jewish okay I'll tell you why I find that note where they but let's just take a look.
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[UNKNOWN]: Ten you to fight for the people of Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: I will continue to fight for Israel's existence.
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[UNKNOWN]: Israel comes to me in my dreams.
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[UNKNOWN]: I see Israel's future, and I know that Israel will continue to exist for the Jewish people.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so I have to I have to say this like I don't make any excuses for anyone who thinks that is real is a dream worthy place I mean is real comes to me my dreams if one I've nightmares about about what is real is doing right but like there are a lot of people who have been brainwashed and a lot of you know we all know them like peps progressive except on Palestine.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not excusing at all, like I want to be very clear.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's okay for Jewish people to be pro-genocide.
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[UNKNOWN]: But to hear a non-Jews say that Israel comes to them in their dreams, that's just like crazy talks like in a different level.
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[UNKNOWN]: Is she like actually a Christian Zionist?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know if she describes herself that way, but she certainly fits the bill.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, she's like she's absolutely led the charge or help lead the charge in Congress to, you know, push all of these heinous bills, you know, she voted originally to against the Lebanon wars power war powers resolution, the beginning of last month.
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[UNKNOWN]: She did vote against it the second time, but like.
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[UNKNOWN]: What are you doing?
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[UNKNOWN]: She's voted again and again for unconditional military age.
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[UNKNOWN]: She denies Israel's war crimes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, perfect.
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[UNKNOWN]: Here's a great summary.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is from the wonderful prime factor.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then we'll practically what APAC wants her to do all along the way, and that's why you're now seeing them dump millions and millions of dollars each week now into this race.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's up to over $10 million in spending from APAC so far, and that's just from APAC that we've been able to identify.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's another group in this race, this Center for Democratic Priorities, which is a shadowing nonprofit group.
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't know who is funding that yet.
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[UNKNOWN]: We won't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I believe until after the election.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's just, you know, a prime example of exactly how the Israel obviously is now having to operate because these policies are not flying under the radar anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: People are absolutely fed up with this type of politics where people are the hole into foreign interests and, you know, it's very transparent.
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[UNKNOWN]: We can see right through it.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, I think a reckoning is coming and I think that really, that's really highlighting in this race in particular because you saw Mallory McMoro kind of try to thread the needle.
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[UNKNOWN]: cried originally to kind of court the progressive vote.
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[UNKNOWN]: She said it was a genocide and she kind of walked that back and then she attacked Abdul for campaigning with his handpiker and went through the whole Islamophobic gambit just really gross stuff and that absolutely cratered her campaign.
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[UNKNOWN]: I hope that others will see that that is people are not going to buy into this politics of
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[UNKNOWN]: not having a strong stand, you know, people want fighters who are going to stand up to this absolutely wildly corrupt status quo, and now you've got that, that very clear contrast in this race in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, when your red line is Hassan Paker and not genocide, I think that's kind of a red flag to tell on yourself.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't care.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, you don't have to love Hassan Paker, whatever.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, you can like him whatever you want.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the fact that that is disqualifying.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you didn't be using your political opinions off of what a Twitch streamer says about politician.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, you should be caring about the politicians policy and what they're voting for.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so the idea that that's more important.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, people are, it's obvious that people, it's because people like Shannon Watts or whoever, like, don't want to say out loud, either I don't care about genocide or I'm actually for genocide.
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[UNKNOWN]: So instead, they pretend that they have this moral, like, you know, obligation and duty to take a brave, brave sand against a sunpiker.
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[UNKNOWN]: like come on, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just so pathetic.
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[UNKNOWN]: And as you said, if people are seeing through it, I mean, increasingly seeing through it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the irony is that I think, like you said, Mallory was trying to, I don't know why Colorado like that, like a month first name, basically, whether Mallory with Maro was trying to be that in that middle, you know.
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[UNKNOWN]: middle path that third way if you will and a backfire didn't help her right if you thought it was I think politically expedient to do it and I think I think what you want to do is you just look like you don't satisfy either side.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, there's, there's an important distinction I want to make on that specifically.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that is that for a time, it kind of was working.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was, there was enough people in the social dialogue that were saying like, yeah, you know, I'm really like, I've told him more about his policies, but you know, if we get malaria, she's not so bad.
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[UNKNOWN]: I heard a lot of that early on.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it really was not until she decided to go full-throated, attacking the campaigning alongside Hassan Piker, which again,
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[UNKNOWN]: love him, hate him, be agnostic about him, whatever.
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[UNKNOWN]: She made a decision to to disingenuously conflate him and falsely conflate him with Nick Fuentes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: That is so offensive.
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[UNKNOWN]: an actual like neo-nazi white supremacist and then to and then she doubled down on that later and she launched this like whole series of frankly racist attacks against Abdul al-sayat and it that is the thing that really cratered her her support and I want that to be a very important lesson
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[UNKNOWN]: to Democrats that are out there who are Democrats and Democratic boosters, Democratic influencers, commentators, any voters, anybody who is trying to get something done in our electoral space on behalf of the Democrats, I want you to take notice that we are not
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[UNKNOWN]: going to be okay with normalizing Islamophobia and anti-Muslim hatred and racism anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like that is every bit as file as any other form of racism that we allegedly oppose.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that has to be condemned and called out every single time because it is so normalized and just
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[UNKNOWN]: There's been so much of it in this race, and at the last set is just he is a saint for the way he has handled it, because he just handles it with so much grace.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I can't imagine, I mean, we, Casey and I both get people yelling at us and calling us dumb names and whatever, but nothing like what has thrown at him.
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[UNKNOWN]: And to be attacked for his identity in the ways that he has, it's just, it's so gross and it has to be condemned and absolutely just kicked the hell out.
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[UNKNOWN]: It has no space in our movement.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I agree.
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[UNKNOWN]: And let's actually go.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's show that Pram Tucker screenshot again in case people were not reading at or just listening.
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[UNKNOWN]: So here is what Haley Stevens voted for.
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[UNKNOWN]: She voted to stop the Lebanon war powers resolution send Israel 26 billion more in aid after a kill 34,000 plus people send Israel another 17.6 billion and a failed bill Biden would have vetoed.
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[UNKNOWN]: Banned the State Department from citing guys and ministry of health debt tolls, sanctioned ICC officials as they sought justice against Israeli war criminals, expressed disgust at South Africa's suit accusing Israel of genocide and praised Biden's spokesperson, John Kirby calling the case Maritalis counterproductive and completely without basis in fact whatsoever.
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[UNKNOWN]: Front Disease Israel had already killed 25,000 bus people
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[UNKNOWN]: And parenthesis expressed gratitude for ICE, that's in quotes, gratitude for ICE, and forced through the TikTok sale or ban it in the US if it wasn't sold.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that is a summary.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's important also because she's, you know, she's she's.
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[UNKNOWN]: A lot of times what happens is that people, like, have you all a side and this happens to Rishi the slave also, they get kind of pitch and hold.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I want to be clear, it's not like Gaza is not important to them, but they're also more than Gaza, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: I think that like Gaza is
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[UNKNOWN]: It is, it is a litmus test because it is the moral issue of our time and is a genocide unfolding, right, but they're also gray on other issues and those, you know, no one ever talks about how great Rashida Tlaib is on her constituencies services, right, and like environmental racism and racial justice when it comes to, you know, black people and Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I think it's really important to point that out.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so obviously, Haley Stevens is bad on a lot of farm policy stuff, but she's also terrible on like Medicare for all, you know, she's a total centrist like a radical centrist.
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[UNKNOWN]: So what else do we need to know that that wasn't covered in that list anything that that we need to make sure that people know about or was that exhaustive enough.
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[UNKNOWN]: The only one that comes to top of my mind that I didn't see on the list was she voted for the anti-Semitism awareness act, which is the To codify the IHRI definition of anti-Semitism to make it, you know, a hate crime to criticize Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: So ridiculous, yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, let's take a look at, and again, oh, here's another ironic thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: You have people who are like mad at Abdul Ahsaiid for criticizing Haley Stevens and someone like this man down guy, you know, that guy, I think Seth Mandel who's wife is that terrible woman who like reon and joy gray totally exposed asking her what woke men she wrote like a whole book on woke and she couldn't answer it just like, well, you're putting me on the spine breeze like take your time.
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[UNKNOWN]: And she's an answer.
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[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, he's like, what an anti-semitic thing to call her like a an empty suit beholden to like money.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like she's not Jewish dude.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like you can save your like we all know you weaponize and feminism and you actually are ultimately contributing to it because no one takes it seriously on those times when it is anti-semitism like when someone blows up.
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[UNKNOWN]: you know, a synagogue, people are going to be dismissing that because it's just constantly, you know, what's anti Zionism is constantly described as anti-Semitism, but I just think it's it's rich that you have stuff like this happening and she's not even Jewish.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then as you pointed out, Andy Levin, he's Jewish, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like they and she and a pack both one after him.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I actually missed the somebody calling her calling that Andy Semitic.
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[UNKNOWN]: I, what I picked up on were a lot of people that were complaining that that was misogidistic.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, to make a comment to make a comment about her, which is also absurd.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that, that pissed me off, I made some comments about how we're not gonna do, you know, anti-Muslim hateful as a cloaked in weaponized feminism.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like we're not, no.
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[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's so gross.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Basically, it's like, let's do burn the burning burn narrative, but ratcheted up by making it racist, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, like, oh, we can do two birds up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, we're going to weaponize identity politics.
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[UNKNOWN]: And while we're doing it, like be totally orientalizing and imply that like this brown man is is a savage beast who doesn't know how to respect women.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: We see right through that Emily's list, like do better.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right.
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[UNKNOWN]: So sorry about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't even remember.
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[UNKNOWN]: I got so angry.
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[UNKNOWN]: I forgot the point we were making.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about Haley Stevens.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the anti-sum.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they came out with an ad saying he has whim issues with women.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like, it's an attack.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, is it actually is a fact, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Which actually ended up being flagged by I think it was Detroit metro times one of the local newspapers ended up flagging it as you know like factually inaccurate like really stretch and the facts and the fact that's how they have to run on at this point it seems like they're trying to paint him as a misogynist and
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: How do you come away with that, uh, take after, you know, you see him campaign?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, there's there's absolutely no basis for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, and it really is just vaguely gesturing in the direction of the fact that he is a Muslim man.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so therefore he must be anti woman.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's so racist and disgusting.
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[UNKNOWN]: and counterfactual and every woman out there who is perpetuating that narrative right now released a hard look in the mirror and what are you doing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, they probably know what they're doing, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: They're, I mean, anyone who would do that, I mean, yeah, I guess maybe there's some people who are are dupped in a good faith or think that it's sincere, it's not.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's totally disingenuous.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you cared about women, I mean, not to, you maybe would care about the women who are forced to undergo like sea sections without anesthetics and gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: You care that they're being, you know.
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[UNKNOWN]: brutalize as we speak.
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[UNKNOWN]: So you just spare us this thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like if if the the words that this guy uses it, you know the irony it's not even like I'm asking people to overlook some problematic language that he uses because God's is more important like show me what he said that sexist like you he's running against people he's allowed to criticize them.
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[UNKNOWN]: He hasn't said anything remotely like misogynistic so again do better guys who are doing this and and if you want to do this to find but you're really
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[UNKNOWN]: Kind of like what they're doing to anti-semitism honestly in a similar way.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like no one's going to take it seriously when it actually is there.
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[UNKNOWN]: So tell us now about Abdul Ahsaya.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, he has been to your point about how he is not just the anti genocide candidate.
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[UNKNOWN]: He is a lot more than this issue.
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[UNKNOWN]: I would say that his principal issue and the thing that he should be best known for is his work on public health care and as a champion of universal health care and fighting for Medicare for all, that's the thing that drew me to
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[UNKNOWN]: So, I've been following and supporting him ever since then, and his work as a public health official is clear what his achievements are.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been consistent in his values in that regard, and he's consistent in his humanitarian values that he expresses in all of his policies.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's just, he's just, he's just,
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[UNKNOWN]: projecting and and and living and exhibiting all of the things that we want to see from a senator somebody who's going to go there and not just you know punch the clock and say I'm a a democratic reliable democratic vote but actually going to get on the house or on the Senate floor and and forcefully advocate for these issues that's what we need we need people speaking out forcefully for these issues instead of just just waiting to show up for the vote that's going
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: He also wrote a book called MediCare for All a Susan's Guide.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I know.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's got it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, they're different.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I thought, Casey, anything want to add.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to show a video of him, but I certainly want to give you a detour.
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[UNKNOWN]: I would just say, you know, he's been so consistent throughout his career, who he is now is who he's always been fighting for everyday people to have access to healthcare.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think that's really like the central plank of his campaign, healthcare and get big money out of politics, and that's a winning message right now.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, well, let's contrast um, uh, Haley Stevens saying that uh, is real comes to her in her dreams with a question that a lot of people get asked.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, no, let me, let me, let me refer to this.
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[UNKNOWN]: Anyone who dares to defend Palestinians gets asked this question.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look at abdual on CNN.
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[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, APAC is a big part of this conversation because Israel has become a very central topic, especially inside the Democratic Party, but nationally as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you believe Israel has a right to exist?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: The APAC has become a big issue in this election because APAC has already spent $30 million in this election.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're by far the biggest spender in the race.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now the question about a right to exist, it's interesting because nobody's ever asked me whether or not I believe Palestine has a right to exist.
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[UNKNOWN]: every single president who served has said that they believe in a two-state solution.
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[UNKNOWN]: Israel exists.
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[UNKNOWN]: The question is whether or not we want a politics where our money is sent over to Israel to do genocide and apartheid instead of investing in our own kids.
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[UNKNOWN]: You say it exists but doesn't have a right to?
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't say that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just said the question of Israel's existence is not a question.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not, I'm not going to play this gothic game about whether or not it has a right to exist.
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[UNKNOWN]: The question ultimately is about whether or not we want to politics that dignified.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to play the gothic game, but you're not going to say as you think Israel has a right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, why is that inconsistent?
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[UNKNOWN]: as she admits it's a gacha game.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're not going to say, as you think Israel has a right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, my question.
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[UNKNOWN]: OK, see, I think the question we all that ought to ask is, does everybody have equal rights to peace, dignity, and self-determination?
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[UNKNOWN]: That's Jewish Israelis and Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: And to me, the folks who should answer with the ultimate peace there looks like, should be Jewish Israelis and Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: I want my tax dollars spent here in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: to provide schools in Michigan to build healthcare in Michigan, to invest in Michigan, rather than to be sent abroad to kill Palestinian people, do genocides in apartheid.
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[UNKNOWN]: The question about whether or not Israel has a right to exist is actually quite secondary to whether or not they have a right to our tax dollars, and people don't ask that question in good faith.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, if you want to ask me about Palestinian right to exist, if you want to ask me about what I want to do for kids in Michigan, I'm happy to answer that question.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the eight pack,
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[UNKNOWN]: and Israel have become secondary questions that too many people have to talk about because our tax dollars keep getting spent over there rather than being spent over here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, pretty good, I would say pretty good response, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that should study that clip.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was a fantastic example.
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[UNKNOWN]: He highlights the absurdity of how that question is constantly used as a cudgel against anybody who takes a stand for human rights and totally flips it on its head.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the reason that we're talking about this is because we're funding it.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's really going to come down through.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right, that way, right.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you know, I mean, the fact that Israel has the right to other countries have the right to exist, like is this a question that other countries should be asked?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, who doesn't think the countries inherently have a right to exist, a founding fathers?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
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[UNKNOWN]: They wrote our definition of an incompetence and said essentially that when everyone's in a while, people should disband the political bands that hold them together if their government
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[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, like countries as political entities, no country has an unshakable right to exist.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is up to the people that live in that place to decide how they want to be governed.
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[UNKNOWN]: That is one of the founding principles of America.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's pretty weird that everyone like wants to demand that we answer that question in particular, but they're ignoring this
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I have to look into this when this started as a talking point because it's definitely has became a talking point and it's very smart because it kind of taps into like human rights and liberal language and you kind of have to stop and be like wait, rights like actually countries don't have a right to exist.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like people have the right to exist and the irony is that people who are talking about countries' rights to exist, they seem to be fine with the attempt
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, the whole premise of the question is designed to automatically pigeonhole you into defensive posture.
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[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you can see, you can see exactly what is the motive of the people that are asking that question, as soon as you flip it to say like, do Palestinian children have a right not to be blown up, do Palestinian mothers and fathers have a right to not fear for their children's lives, or to want to live full lives themselves?
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[UNKNOWN]: The minute you turn it on that front, they get very upset, like,
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: When you talk about the rights that actually exists, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like human rights, or things that exist in international humanitarian law, then they're less interested.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a similar thing with self-defense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like Israel self-defense is always being invoked, even when it's not, not at all self-defense what they're doing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're,
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[UNKNOWN]: And yet, I mean, I think we talked about this on my other show, useful idiots, which is that when it was a map Miller was asked by saved Ericot, the great Palestinian journalist.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was asked about Palestinians right to resist.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, self-defense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Just to understand that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, right, right.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he wouldn't say.
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[UNKNOWN]: like because he can't because he knows that take care of yourself.
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[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: That should be why isn't that a straightforward answer?
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[UNKNOWN]: Why does only one side of this conflict, which we know is not a conflict, because that suggests a lot of parity that isn't there.
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[UNKNOWN]: I want to show another, I think, great moment of Abdul al-Said responding to this Gacha.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is from a couple months ago, but trigger warning he's next to Hassan Piker.
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[UNKNOWN]: So yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh God.
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[UNKNOWN]: are you just getting there?
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[UNKNOWN]: How is that not an equivocation?
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[UNKNOWN]: Because so this is and this is Olivia, I think this is Olivia Ryanville, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's also from the writing rest.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, she's the worst of that.
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[UNKNOWN]: The logic that if you extend the logic there, that would be like if after October 7, someone went to a mosque and was upset, you know, did something awful there?
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[UNKNOWN]: How is that logic?
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[UNKNOWN]: How does that not translate?
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[UNKNOWN]: After October 7, there was a whole genocide against Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, and by the way, to set this up, this was because he's made, I think, a very, I mean point that's maybe uncomfortable, but if people care about antisemitism, they should care about this, this was after an attack and attempted attack on a synagogue that was perpetuated by someone Lebanese whose family had been killed by Israel, right, and he made the point basically like he's talked about how they're going to be blowback, which obviously there is going to be blowback.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, anyone honest admits this and which is what makes it so dangerous when Israel constantly says that it is the, you know, the nation of Jews and represents all Jews.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I do it was very clear he was not condoning this, but if you want to understand why things happen, I think it's important to look at how Israel's actions will have blowback.
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[UNKNOWN]: So this is what she's referring to and she's basically accusing him of like condoning it.
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[UNKNOWN]: People won't have a lot of moss in Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, free press reporters.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
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[UNKNOWN]: So no, I just look at the end of the day.
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[UNKNOWN]: We can play this rhetorical game where we pretend that all actions stand.
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[UNKNOWN]: on their own without a context or we can try and have an adult conversation about context that exists in the world because at the end of the day we all live in the same confined world.
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[UNKNOWN]: The things that happen one place in the world can effectively happen somewhere else in the world and if we're serious about preventing bad things from happening in the world we also have to be serious about the context in which they're created and I'm trying to be serious about that context.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I can both say that the attack on Temple Israel was anti-Semitic in Rome.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I can also say that the circumstances that created that, it didn't happen in a vacuum, and that those circumstances that created that are important to stand up against as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: So the notion that somehow I cannot condemn a war,
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[UNKNOWN]: that killed a little boy in a little girl in Lebanon, because of an attack on Temple Israel, seems to me inconsistent with the way the world actually works.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'd like to live in a world where we stand up against any and all violence, understanding that anti-Semitism is wrong, understanding that wars that we should not be fighting are also wrong, and understanding that there really is a connection between the two of them, however much their historical games that people try to play tell us that they're somehow is not.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're going to take you two more questions.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're going to have to move on to the next person's room.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
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[UNKNOWN]: Olivia has the Jewish state.
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[UNKNOWN]: Olivia, where are you going?
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[UNKNOWN]: So I love to take the question.
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[UNKNOWN]: So Olivia Rungel says this is Israel have the right to exist as a Jewish state.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like a question, actually.
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you mean by Jewish state?
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, I feel weird.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you can't define their question, I'm not going to answer your question.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're going to move on to the next person.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's so great.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, everyone knows that should be forced to answer that part.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, two immediate things I wanted to say.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, first of all, this is the clip that when Olivia Rungled wrote it up later, she said, she described it as, she narrowed his eyes.
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[UNKNOWN]: which is just like people zoomed in on his face and it objectively did not happen.
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[UNKNOWN]: She made it up.
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[UNKNOWN]: She literally, this woman is parading as a journalist and she literally wrote something false that is a provably false with video evidence and it's disgusting and racist again.
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[UNKNOWN]: But listen to the way he responded throughout that entire clip and that just imagine having that moral clarity and consistency and confidence on the floor of the United States Senate against John Fetterman against any Republican against half of the Democrats, frankly.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like it's just imagine having that that's why we need someone like up to all in the Senate.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, here, let's be fair to Olivia.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's let her, we want to show her in her own words, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Listen to Jewish women or read the texts or tweets of Jewish women.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I do as a side who was Muslim, walks a fine line on the Jewish state.
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[UNKNOWN]: On Tuesday night, he told the crowd, as he often does, that his problem is not with Jews.
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[UNKNOWN]: Code, all of us love and revered Jewish folk are Jewish neighbors.
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[UNKNOWN]: The faith of Judaism, he said, hands out stretched.
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[UNKNOWN]: Later that night in a makeshift spin room assembled by the campaign, he rebuffed my question on whether he believes in Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you mean by a Jewish state he retorted narrowing his eyes?
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[UNKNOWN]: If you can't answer that question, I'm not going to answer it.
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[UNKNOWN]: and quote, for someone who often waves around his respect for Judaism, he seemed unaware of something elementary.
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[UNKNOWN]: Judaism is not only a religion, but a people with a long-standing connection to Israel that runs through its prayers, traditions, and history.
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[UNKNOWN]: Wait, Judaism is a people?
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[UNKNOWN]: No, that's not even, like, even just grammatically, he doesn't notice.
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[UNKNOWN]: So like conjugate or syntactically, she's challenged here, but that also shows you that she doesn't know how to answer the question even here.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't just say, oh, it's our history Judaism is people longstanding, okay, what does a Jewish thing mean?
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[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, again, it's like, you don't get to say, okay, that's great.
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[UNKNOWN]: Say what you will.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, Olivia, please tell us what that means.
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[UNKNOWN]: What does Israel existing as a Jewish state look like?
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[UNKNOWN]: And they can't say that because then they'd have to knowledge, which is why it's great when Dora and Mondani's like, it has the right to exist as a democratic state.
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[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
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[UNKNOWN]: So let's see, I want to talk about other candidates who you've endorsed or who you're excited about.
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[UNKNOWN]: What can you tell us about them?
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[UNKNOWN]: So we have a number of health races that we've also endorsed in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we're really excited about helping to boost some of these.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's we actually have some really strong pickup opportunities, not only for flipping like Republican seats, but also to get better Democrats into office.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's really, really several very exciting opportunities there.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've got five total house candidates, Casey's got to list.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've got some things we can share about each one of them.
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[UNKNOWN]: But just want to say like for the people that are out there, like wanting to support work that we're doing, for example, you know, when you help uplift some of these house raises, you're also helping to uplift that dual, like we're working on a strategy to help uplift the entire Michigan slate that we have that we have endorsed to be able to, you know, help them win in this election, it's just just around the corner, but Casey, go ahead and take it away.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I would say we're looking at Michigan's 13th district, which is currently represented by Sri Tannadar.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's being challenged by Donovan McKinney, who's got a bunch of progressive backing.
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[UNKNOWN]: I believe Bernie Sanders.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, the whole left wing is basically come in behind him Rashida Tulib is really doing a lot of groundwork for him and really hitting Representative Tanadar on his lack of constituent services.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been largely an absentee representative in the district.
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[UNKNOWN]: and just a lot of kind of weird things going on out of his congressional office.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he has a consistently high staff turnover and his staffers actually, once they leave, they start leaking stuff to the press.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, he's using his congressional office funds for franking, which is when you take
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[UNKNOWN]: Your congressional appropriated funds meant for your congressional office and you're using it to kind of promote yourself in the district and kind of using as a campaign fund as opposed to services you're supposed to provide.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he's also, you know, he's just got a horrible record on Israel and Palestine.
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[UNKNOWN]: So really, when you look at representative Thanedar's record, it's among the bottom ranking of any of the Democratic House members.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's voted to sanction the ICC.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's voted to gut unrefunding.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's voted for the anti-Semitism awareness act, basically another Haley Stevens.
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[UNKNOWN]: just maybe lesser known, but he's been in office for a couple of cycles now.
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[UNKNOWN]: Largely able to sell fund, he, I believe he came from like a biomedical testing start up or something that he, I can't remember exactly what the, what the back of.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's also got some crypto funding going on.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's really weird.
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[UNKNOWN]: All sorts of shady little like side.
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[UNKNOWN]: So many shady things going on with him.
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[UNKNOWN]: But what's particularly interesting to me about Sri Tanadar is that he actually, he kind of pulled a, a what's her name from the Senate, the Arizona.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, a curious system.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he almost he pretty kind of pulled a curse in him in the sense that he he actually was one of the people that you know previously spoke out against calling Israel in a apartheid state and and then when he ran for Congress and Apex started coming out for him.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was like, oh hello, I'd like a peck money.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so he started leaning into and just completely changing his positions and now he's very like vocally and legislatively pro Israel in everything that he got.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so now he's really he's really just out of step with the district.
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[UNKNOWN]: It should be, you know, much more progressive district based on just the demographics.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was challenged by Detroit City Council member Mary Waters and his original campaign when APAC, I think this is one of the first instances, maybe of APAC kind of using one of these pass-through pop-up packs to mask their spending.
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[UNKNOWN]: They put it into, I think it was called Blue Wave Action.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was like $2.3 million to help him fend off this challenge, and then of course after that, he's elected, he's taking trips to Israel with APAC and doing exactly what they want him to do.
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[UNKNOWN]: Wow, it's so anti-Semitic of you, just a dress.
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[UNKNOWN]: What else do we got in the 11th district?
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[UNKNOWN]: Not far away.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's the Democratic primary.
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[UNKNOWN]: So this is the seat that's being vacated by Haley Stevens, giving up her seat.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's open.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we're supporting Ayesha Furuki.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's a lawyer running in that district.
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[UNKNOWN]: And there's two other candidates.
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[UNKNOWN]: One of them is state senator Jeremy Moss.
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[UNKNOWN]: He is a loud and proud Zionist.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's buddies with
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[UNKNOWN]: the U of MREG agent who pushed for the students to be arrested for protesting, and he's anti-BDS, fully pro-Israel, and he partook in the smear of Rashida Tulie back in 2024 when everybody was lasting her for being anti-smetic for standing up for Palestine.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, the other candidate in that race is Don Offerd, and he's actually, it seems like he's trying to campaign as a progressive, but he recently got called out at a town hall.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, folks are realizing he was actually registered as a Republican four years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's how he's trying to answer for that.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, well, I just wanted to go and see, you know, how things.
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[UNKNOWN]: What, what they do on the other side and the water, it's like, well, you don't need to like become a Republican to learn.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I'm hoping folks will kind of sus that out.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's really two factions here.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's like the Unserious guy who's, and we don't really know what he stands for.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's the Loud and Proud Zionist, and then there's a people's champion who's going to stand up for peace.
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[UNKNOWN]: So Iishif Grooky in the 11th District.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'll add to about I should say she's you know there's there's some internal polling that's been shared from the campaign to their fundraising list about how she's polling for this open seat for like three candidates that have basically no name recognition, you know, no national name recognition, she's polling within six points.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's just at the top and then when they do message testing when they like tell more about the background of each candidate and where they stand in different issues she blows everybody out and she's leading by 20 points and so with a very like really just a very modest investment of time and resources from some progressive groups like she could legitimately
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[UNKNOWN]: blow this race out of the water and shape the incongress of because this is a safe blue seat.
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[UNKNOWN]: So this is a race.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think people are sleeping on right now that they shouldn't be.
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[UNKNOWN]: She definitely deserves our support.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's did you want to talk about Kyle as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think he's he's another like really strong content.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so in the first district Kyle Blumquist is a sitting city council member in Iron Mountain.
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[UNKNOWN]: where he currently serves as the Mayor Pro Tem, and he's running in what is currently a Republican district held by Representative Jack Bergman, who's a PAC endorsed.
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[UNKNOWN]: Kyle is running a really unabashedly progressive campaign.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's really taken a strong stand, just calling out a PAC, and he is a real lobby director.
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[UNKNOWN]: And tapping into something that I think particular in this kind of
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[UNKNOWN]: a very strong message, you know, people are counting out these districts.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's rated as a solid Republican, but this is, I think, a really weak incumbent.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jack Bergman is 79 years old and is not well-liked and rough for this group.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's not live in this great.
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[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't even live in Michigan.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's got a house somewhere else.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, he has a household and he maintains in the district for, you know, purposes.
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[UNKNOWN]: But he does not live in the district doesn't live in the state for the hasn't for years.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, which is,
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, I guess he's meeting the minimum legal threshold, but he certainly is not invested in the community as much as someone like Kyle who's like serving actively and an elected role in that community.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think what some couple things are really exciting to me about Kyle is like he said he's running this unabashedly progressive campaign against a
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[UNKNOWN]: an incumbent that is completely checked out.
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[UNKNOWN]: If he gets through this primary, I think he's certainly he's got a tough fight.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a red district, but there's so many benefits to investing in a district like that because any boats that we extra boats that we help turn out that we can maybe help get Kyle even close to flipping
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[UNKNOWN]: that district are all votes that are going to help updule in the statewide race.
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[UNKNOWN]: And also this is how we make political change.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like we have to have this long-term strategy.
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[UNKNOWN]: I started doing this work nine years ago with brand new Congress and we ran all kinds of candidates that were in
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[UNKNOWN]: are plus 15, are plus 20 districts and people would say, like, why are you even bothering?
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[UNKNOWN]: Don't come back to me unless when it's an R plus one.
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[UNKNOWN]: And when I say people, I'm not talking about voters.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm talking about Democratic consultants and campaign, you know, party officials.
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[UNKNOWN]: They think it's a waste of time to talk to voters and to present progressive ideas in districts that are, you know, that are not, you know,
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[UNKNOWN]: within a percentage point or two of flipping already.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that is just not how you're just giving up on large swaths of the country.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're just seeding the ideological territory to these people that are just becoming more and more extreme with every year.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a ridiculous way to do politics.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's the reason why Democrats keep losing in these kinds of places.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just think that this is a race that's definitely worth investing in Kyle is great.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been like packing, like I know one of his recent events, he had 200 people turn out to a town hall and a town of 1400 people, like so he's got real energy, he doesn't have as many marquee endorsements as some other candidates have, but you know, he's, he's the real deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's the Katie Harper show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'll get that Katie Harper show bump.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, let's do it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I want to leave you all with a very scary video.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is from Fox News that you guys actually tweeted this out.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a recent video.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's a warning call.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look at this.
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[UNKNOWN]: a dual-else side, who just got endorsed by AOC, a socialist from New York, who has come out and can't answer the question, should Israel exist?
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[UNKNOWN]: And if you say I taking money from APEC as a Democrat, which is a lobbyist group, Israeli lobbyist group, you're basically done as a candidate.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's where this party is right now.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, first, can we just start with socialist summer like, yeah, baby, yeah, I look great.
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[UNKNOWN]: I love the clearly labels that it doesn't.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is really lobbyist group.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, thanks for that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for that PSA.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's abduals should just cut that as an act into an act.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, they did, I think Nathan Robinson pointed out that like someone joke that the someone can make a website of Haley Stevens saying, you know, it's real comes to him in my dreams and they actually have made that website now.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, so actually, it's even funnier than that, the website is Larry's, but what's so this morning, Haley Stevens launched her, her Abdul Oppo campaign, where she's she launched a website called AbdulFacts.com, I think.
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[UNKNOWN]: And within hours they had haily shacks up and the haily shacks website is it's phenomenal.
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[UNKNOWN]: Are you going to put it up?
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[UNKNOWN]: Just the fact that they got this up so fast.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they had it primed in the background.
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[UNKNOWN]: I kudos either way because it's incredible.
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[UNKNOWN]: And also if you're going to drop Abdul fax.com and you didn't go and buy the domain haley fax.com, what are you doing?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's, yeah, that's just like, come on, girl.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: So there it is, haley fax.com says click for sound.
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[UNKNOWN]: In the United States Congress, I will continue to fight for the people of Israel.
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[UNKNOWN]: I will continue to fight for Israel's existence.
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[UNKNOWN]: Israel comes to me in my career.
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[UNKNOWN]: This needs to be an ad, just put it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I really like the button to put it to make it come.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's how it is.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just beautiful.
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[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
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[UNKNOWN]: Beautiful.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you, Casey and Corey.
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[UNKNOWN]: We look forward to checking more with you and hearing more about your candidates.
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[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for having us.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, thank someone wrote she's the female John Heygey, which is kind of hilarious.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not not not too far off from the truth.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Have a great night guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: You too.
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[UNKNOWN]: I like.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't go anywhere because we have another guest he is wonderful.
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[UNKNOWN]: We are so honored to be talking to him.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been on the show before and it's especially an honor given how busy he is because this person is an actual medical doctor.
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[UNKNOWN]: And in addition to being a medical doctor and an important member of Med Global, which is a medical humanitarian NGO that works at building healthcare capacity and reducing health inequalities.
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[UNKNOWN]: He travels around and he traveled to Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's been there in several medical missions.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was also in Lebanon and he is a board certified emergency medicine physician.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for having me appreciate it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Of course.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for coming.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like so to terrible.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't I always say words fail because they're kind of is what can what can be said, but you are doing such important work and you're so brave because you go to places to help people who are being, you know,
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not like a natural disaster, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, when you go to Gaza, this is like people are suffering being killed because of a policy decision.
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[UNKNOWN]: But tell us, please, I have a lot to ask you about, but one of the first things I would do on ask you about, is this horrible, you know, the horrible treatment of Dr. Abu Sufi, and you actually know him.
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[UNKNOWN]: So tell us who he is and what is happening to him.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Dr. Hussain Magusofia is a senior pediatrician that was working in Camel, Edwin Hospital.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was one of the only pediatric hospitals in the north of Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he's somebody who also happens to be an op-ed contributor to the New York Times.
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[UNKNOWN]: So over the course of the last two and a half years, he's written two op-eds in the New York Times.
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[UNKNOWN]: And one of them was published a couple of weeks before he was abducted by the Israeli military.
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[UNKNOWN]: Dr. Hassan is somebody who, over the course of the genocide who was giving us constant updates through his interviews, he was somebody who was explaining the situation on the ground.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was showing us the human cost of what the Israeli military was doing in Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he was staying in the ICU or all of these little infants and babies or incubators.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he was constantly appealing to the world saying, you have to put a stop to this.
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[UNKNOWN]: You have to allow these hospitals to continue to function.
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[UNKNOWN]: We need the medicine.
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[UNKNOWN]: We need people to have a safe place to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: And in the process of that, he lost his son Ibrahim in an Israeli air strike, and actually had to bury him in the compound of the hospital.
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[UNKNOWN]: He himself was injured in a drone strike.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was hit with shrapnel in his leg.
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[UNKNOWN]: And when they seized Camel, I do a hospital for over two months.
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[UNKNOWN]: These really military laid siege to it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Nobody was allowed to enter.
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[UNKNOWN]: Nobody was allowed to leave.
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[UNKNOWN]: We saw in the very final moments, Dr. Osam emerged from the hospital after safely evacuating all of his patients.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he had to approach and his really tank.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that was the moment he was abducted.
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[UNKNOWN]: And since that moment, we've seen him as well as many of the other Palestinian health care workers who were abducted by the Israeli military, get no sort of new process.
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[UNKNOWN]: Every single time an update emerges from these Israeli prisons about Palestinian health care workers, or even any of the prisoners, it's worse.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the most recent update we got about Dr. Hussain was from his lawyer, who's in Israeli lawyer,
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[UNKNOWN]: He visited him on July 2nd, and he was so distraught at how Dr. Hassan looked.
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[UNKNOWN]: He issued a petition immediately.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said, my client is on the brink of death.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said, I'm scared that there will be no next visit, given how beaten Dr. Hassan was, how out of breath he could not even finish sentences without catching his breath.
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[UNKNOWN]: He had bruises all over his body.
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[UNKNOWN]: He had also had his regular, he has medical conditions like high blood pressure and
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[UNKNOWN]: None of that had been tended to and the nearly two years that he's been abducted and held and detained.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he was just, he was absolutely confused at the fact that there was no sort of progress on Dr. Hussain's case.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, this is something that I think is a microcosm of the conditions in Israeli prisons, but also the way that healthcare workers in Palestine specifically in Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: have been targeted.
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[UNKNOWN]: Dr. Hassan was one of 14 medical doctors, senior medical doctors from Gaza, who remain in Israeli dungeons without any charge.
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[UNKNOWN]: Dr. Hassan himself, there's no charge against him.
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[UNKNOWN]: The Israeli prosecutor has not provided any sort of evidence saying, well, Dr. Hassan is in prison because of this.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's just some sort of unlawful combat and law that was passed to be able to abduct and detained Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, the one thing I'll mention is in this list of 14 senior doctors, I worked alongside two of them during the genocide.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I remember when the Israeli military surrounded Nasa Hospital in February, in January and February.
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[UNKNOWN]: of 2024.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was able to evacuate safely.
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[UNKNOWN]: Those two doctors, Dr. Nahaed and Dr. Mahmoud, one is the director of surgery and the other one is an ICU doctor.
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[UNKNOWN]: They said we can't leave our patients.
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[UNKNOWN]: And for that, they paid a heavy price.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they are languishing away in these Israeli doctors.
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[UNKNOWN]: The one final point I'll make about these Israeli prison system right now, especially after October 7.
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[UNKNOWN]: The conditions are dire, almost every single Palestinian inmate, every single Palestinian who gets abducted and is in these prisons, get scabies from how horrible the sanitary conditions are.
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[UNKNOWN]: All of them are neglected.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're almost always having their hands and their feet tied.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're always in a stressful position where they have to be bent down in a certain position.
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[UNKNOWN]: And like Dr. Hassan, for example, he's in a facility that's underground.
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[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't even see the
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[UNKNOWN]: And so this, of course, would concern his attorney as it should concern everybody that's paying attention to what's going on, because already 100, almost 100 Palestinians have died since October 7th in these prisons.
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[UNKNOWN]: And one of them being Dr. Adnan Bush, who was this really prominent bone doctor, bone surgeon in Gaza, who anybody that became a doctor, new of Dr. Adnan Bush, was he was the mentor for all medical students and all, you know, aspiring
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[UNKNOWN]: And so this is the most recent thing that's emerged.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like you said, you know, there's it's really tough to describe in words, but this nightmare is never ending.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's it's so awful.
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[UNKNOWN]: And here's with the images kind of iconic image of him walking in the
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[UNKNOWN]: This is being taken from Kamal Adwan through one of the windows, and so this is he's the last kind of like person of the medical staff and the patients that sort of walking out and in fact, the Israeli military had published a video of this when he's kind of walking up to the tank and you see one of these soldiers almost.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, in just like a, in a mocking way, like putting his hand out to shake Dr. Sam's saying, hey, Dr. How are you doing?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like right after the hospital that he was the director of is totally, you know, emptied out of any sort of patients knowing that that hospital is going to be destroyed.
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[UNKNOWN]: And of course, they remove that video.
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[UNKNOWN]: You won't find that video anymore, but it's just, it's horrifying.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is horrifying and it's like they think it's funny to to mock this guy who's now being beaten and tortured.
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[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, Doctor, I'm not a brush.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he was killed and he was sexually assaulted.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is another thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like the disgusting combination of the brutality, the sexual violence, the targeting of doctors.
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[UNKNOWN]: One of the things that I just can't ever like forgive people for is the spreading of the mass rape narrative about what was done on October 7th when there's no evidence of a of mass rape none.
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[UNKNOWN]: And when there actually is documented evidence of it, like we're none of the outlets that covered the mass rape have covered the systemic and documented on video rape of Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, and if you talk to any of the people that have been able to get out of these Israeli prisons that have gone back to Gaza, all of them will detail really disturbing, disturbing sort of practices, and there's one thing I do want to mention, too, that I think is, as you mentioned, Dr. Adnan Al-Bursh, his body, his body, he was found basically from only having a
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[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, that's something, again, it reverberated to all of Palestine.
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[UNKNOWN]: This idea of the humiliation that's associated with this is something that every single professional, not just doctors, our nurses, our first responders.
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[UNKNOWN]: Every single person, you know, it really, it really terrified them.
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[UNKNOWN]: And even when I was there and we saw what was taking place in terms of its hospital after hospital clinic after clinic that's being graded, that was like one of the
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to be around when they surround this hospital because I know of the things that they may do to me and the way that I'll be treated.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so it really, you know, it's, it's a, it's a, it's not just these isolated incidents.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not just Dr. Hussain and Dr. Adnan or the 14 doctors that I mentioned.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's sort of this pervasive practice that's meant to send a message to all Palestinians.
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[UNKNOWN]: This idea of like anybody that chooses to remain in Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: This could be your fate.
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[UNKNOWN]: You could be killed.
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[UNKNOWN]: You could be abducted.
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[UNKNOWN]: You could be injured, but you're not going to be able to survive.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so leave, you know, like it's promoting this forced displacement.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it really it's just like makes it's all the more admirable that people are willing to do this this work, you know, I mean it's unreal and it's also the fact that so his wife is from Kazakhstan right so he chose to stay like he could have easily left.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he did medical school in Kazakhstan.
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[UNKNOWN]: He had, I know for a fact, he had multiple opportunities to evacuate himself and his family.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, this is, again, he was in the north of Gaza.
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[UNKNOWN]: So very early on, the north of Gaza was already in horrible famine like conditions long before the rest of Gaza was.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because the Israelis had wanted to create this sort of buffer zone.
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[UNKNOWN]: They really wanted to empty out those northern towns in cities and neighborhoods.
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[UNKNOWN]: Camel Aguena situated in right in that in the north in an area that these were these did want any Palestinians there and so him staying he knew kind of what what was at stake and he made that decision very intentionally of saying I can't abandon and let this hospital go to waste or let these kids die that are in these incubators.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, he's, you mentioned like the fact that no, you know, I would say that about so many of the Palestinian like healthcare workforce, the humanitarians that are there, even the engineers and teachers, you know, I don't know why they still do what they do.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why they still show up to work.
01:05:22.702 --> 01:05:26.747
[UNKNOWN]: I can't imagine being in their situation and finding sort of that.
01:05:27.327 --> 01:05:33.531
[UNKNOWN]: just that will to continue on, but it's also the sense of responsibility and duty that they have to their community.
01:05:33.632 --> 01:05:42.618
[UNKNOWN]: Like Dr. Sam knows, when he puts the white coat on and he shows up to come out at the end of the morning, people see that, you know, and just like all of these other doctors who are in these other hospitals,
01:05:42.938 --> 01:05:49.408
[UNKNOWN]: They're noticing that the doctors are showing up to work, that the nurses are showing up, that the first responders are still getting the ambulance.
01:05:49.448 --> 01:05:53.313
[UNKNOWN]: And so that sense of duty is so profound and not.
01:05:53.554 --> 01:05:57.760
[UNKNOWN]: To me, that's why your bothers me so much when these morons try to spread.
01:05:58.581 --> 01:06:04.225
[UNKNOWN]: you know, these like, and I'm specifically speaking about the American and the Western like media.
01:06:04.465 --> 01:06:09.828
[UNKNOWN]: When they try to just adopt the sort of propaganda against these people, it's like, you don't even know them.
01:06:10.229 --> 01:06:12.230
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you never, you never even spoke to them.
01:06:12.250 --> 01:06:14.011
[UNKNOWN]: You just regurgitating this nonsense.
01:06:14.271 --> 01:06:15.112
[UNKNOWN]: It's really frustrating.
01:06:16.347 --> 01:06:16.987
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is.
01:06:17.067 --> 01:06:23.369
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, well, okay, so let's, we're going to get to that, but I, but I also, you know, I have that question for you sometimes.
01:06:23.389 --> 01:06:25.670
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, you don't live in Gaza.
01:06:25.810 --> 01:06:26.991
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to go there.
01:06:27.511 --> 01:06:33.733
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's, it's, I also wonder, you know, what makes you risk your life to, to do that.
01:06:33.833 --> 01:06:43.076
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're not doing it every day the way that, and I'm not, I'm not a little, I'm not either belittling what you're doing or, you know, but, but it's all, that's not an insignificant risk and sacrifice.
01:06:43.096 --> 01:06:44.697
[UNKNOWN]: So I guess what makes you do that.
01:06:44.937 --> 01:07:01.083
[UNKNOWN]: leave the United States to go and, yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, you know, coming, being a part of the Palestinian diaspora, again, it's this, you know, you're sort of looking at the folks that this is happening to that are on the ground that are in Gaza that are even in the West Bank and abroad.
01:07:01.790 --> 01:07:09.031
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, you are sort of guilty, you know, you have this survivors guilt about the privilege that you live in.
01:07:09.472 --> 01:07:16.133
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, we, we, I'm actually a part of this documentary called American Doctor that follows three doctors that went to Gaza.
01:07:16.493 --> 01:07:23.474
[UNKNOWN]: The second part of it is I'm acutely aware, just like my colleagues who are in this, for Dr. Faro's and Dr. Mark Furlmutter.
01:07:23.895 --> 01:07:25.855
[UNKNOWN]: We're acutely aware of the rollout government is playing.
01:07:26.475 --> 01:07:28.937
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, for me, that's something that I really struggle with.
01:07:28.977 --> 01:07:32.020
[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, I think about it when I lay my head trying to sleep at night.
01:07:32.040 --> 01:07:51.816
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, you know, the taxes that I'm paying, there is a direct line between sort of the bullets that are used in Gaza, the bombs that are being dropped, the fighter jets, and my actual money, like the money that I earn, you know, and so when you have both of those things at play here where you're like, I'm a member of the diaspora, I have all of this privilege, but also the government, I'm a citizen of this country.
01:07:52.176 --> 01:07:53.236
[UNKNOWN]: that's perpetuating this.
01:07:53.317 --> 01:07:54.457
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like they're supporting it.
01:07:54.517 --> 01:07:57.718
[UNKNOWN]: They are a partner in what's happening in Palestine.
01:07:58.939 --> 01:08:05.782
[UNKNOWN]: It's really hard to kind of just sit back and not just want to occupy yourself with something that could potentially be productive for Palestine.
01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:22.938
[UNKNOWN]: All right, well, let's take, I mean, this is disturbing what I think it's important for people to see it before and after image, I mean, on the left obviously he's much healthier, I mean, he's like, very gone right now, so that's from October 2024 versus June 2026.
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:46.474
[UNKNOWN]: And this reminds me of, you know, we would see this also with the hostages, you know, it was incredible because I mean, the longer time went on, you would see the Israeli hostages were thinner than at the beginning, but like they were not skin and bones away the Palestinians were and the Palestinians ones were in a place that was not undergoing famine.
01:08:47.075 --> 01:08:47.355
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:08:47.595 --> 01:08:47.956
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:08:48.016 --> 01:09:04.048
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's I think that's one thing that you become very, very aware of the dehumanization, the racism against Palestinians is when you see sort of the way the way the discussion is centered around sort of the plight of Israeli hostages.
01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:12.809
[UNKNOWN]: versus the Palestinians who are being abducted by this very sophisticated military, and there's this very systematic torture being perpetuated against them.
01:09:12.829 --> 01:09:14.471
[UNKNOWN]: You saw it, you know, clear as day.
01:09:15.312 --> 01:09:23.101
[UNKNOWN]: Whether it's the airtime that they may receive in the media or the even just like those like human stories that come out about it, you know?
01:09:24.302 --> 01:09:26.083
[UNKNOWN]: hundreds of Palestinians are being released.
01:09:26.103 --> 01:09:30.706
[UNKNOWN]: They all look like shells of their former self signs of trauma everywhere.
01:09:30.886 --> 01:09:35.730
[UNKNOWN]: Clearly, their mental health is in this very, very disturbing kind of way.
01:09:36.230 --> 01:09:38.631
[UNKNOWN]: And there's of course no mention of that.
01:09:38.691 --> 01:09:40.733
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and of course, I'm a relative of somebody who
01:09:41.653 --> 01:09:48.277
[UNKNOWN]: was in Israeli prison for almost two years and was released less than a year ago, thankfully.
01:09:48.917 --> 01:09:59.442
[UNKNOWN]: And he, everything that you're hearing and all of these reports and the New York Times article that came out, he said that to me verbatim work forward and it's like, so it's to me, it's like, wow, it's clear.
01:09:59.462 --> 01:10:02.804
[UNKNOWN]: This is not just, this is one person that they decided to pick on.
01:10:03.304 --> 01:10:09.928
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very systematic approach and it doesn't no one even gives it the bad of an eye, like it's not even an afterthought.
01:10:10.308 --> 01:10:19.953
[UNKNOWN]: Whereas, you know, I'm still, I will still see CBS or ABC or somebody, you know, really going to, I mean, you saw the mother of the hostage that was killed.
01:10:20.834 --> 01:10:31.620
[UNKNOWN]: You know, she's writing a book, she's able to get and hey, I'll tell you something like a mom sort of grieving her child, I think everybody can relate to it and think for me is like, where are the Palestinian mothers.
01:10:32.260 --> 01:10:33.861
[UNKNOWN]: that, you know, have lost everything.
01:10:33.901 --> 01:10:38.465
[UNKNOWN]: When can we hear their, I, I so desperately want their story to also get out there.
01:10:38.485 --> 01:10:40.767
[UNKNOWN]: I want people to see the suffering that they went through.
01:10:40.787 --> 01:10:45.831
[UNKNOWN]: And I think, you know, I think it's a very deliberate thing, of course, you know, just that sort of censorship.
01:10:46.870 --> 01:10:47.090
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:10:47.110 --> 01:10:47.350
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:10:47.390 --> 01:11:04.162
[UNKNOWN]: It's so it's not, I mean, some people though, if you don't know to look for it, you don't even realize that it's so absent, you know, the double standard, the dehumanization like you're saying like the worthy victims and there's actually a campaign now to free Dr. Lucifia, can you talk about that?
01:11:05.393 --> 01:11:09.955
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there are several, I mean, I think there's a couple of different avenues that we want to approach.
01:11:09.995 --> 01:11:26.284
[UNKNOWN]: First, of course, there's a current campaign that's active that emerged from this visit where we're asking that healthcare workers sign on and really ask for his release because there's been a shameful silence of American professional societies of Israeli medical associations and of the world medical association.
01:11:26.304 --> 01:11:28.104
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they don't want to say anything.
01:11:28.164 --> 01:11:34.728
[UNKNOWN]: These cowards are so unwilling to even acknowledge that there is a colleague of ours that's in these conditions.
01:11:34.748 --> 01:11:34.968
[UNKNOWN]: You know,
01:11:35.308 --> 01:11:37.008
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, aren't they up in arms?
01:11:37.268 --> 01:11:45.690
[UNKNOWN]: I would even, I would even at this point with how low the standard is and how low the bar I would even say they should demand that either charge him or release him.
01:11:45.870 --> 01:11:50.311
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, hey, you got something against him, show us the evidence, show us the evidence.
01:11:50.351 --> 01:11:53.632
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, as obviously as somebody who knows him in his family, there is no evidence.
01:11:53.692 --> 01:11:56.953
[UNKNOWN]: And I would, I would, I would bet my medical license and I would be like, hey,
01:11:57.353 --> 01:12:02.056
[UNKNOWN]: If you can prove a single thing, I personally will resign from my position and give up my medical license.
01:12:02.076 --> 01:12:11.681
[UNKNOWN]: Like, that's how confident I am, but I would even accept that from like the, you know, the World Medical Association saying, hey, show us the evidence of why you have this guy, you know, abducted and imprisoned.
01:12:12.122 --> 01:12:15.323
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and the other, there are other sort of things that are at play here.
01:12:15.343 --> 01:12:24.709
[UNKNOWN]: You know, a month ago was the 10 year anniversary where UN Security Council Resolution was passed, specifically about protecting healthcare workers and conflict zones.
01:12:25.107 --> 01:12:27.608
[UNKNOWN]: You know, this was born out of what it was going on in Syria.
01:12:27.948 --> 01:12:29.368
[UNKNOWN]: The UN Security Council came together.
01:12:29.388 --> 01:12:30.409
[UNKNOWN]: They passed this resolution.
01:12:30.429 --> 01:12:31.189
[UNKNOWN]: It's been 10 years.
01:12:31.569 --> 01:12:39.051
[UNKNOWN]: And by all metrics and all measures, it's gotten infinitely worse because of what's taking place in Palestine and in Sudan and in Lebanon.
01:12:39.531 --> 01:12:44.673
[UNKNOWN]: And so, from that sort of perspective, we're asking member states, you passed the resolution.
01:12:45.313 --> 01:12:47.154
[UNKNOWN]: You know, can you put your money where your mouth is?
01:12:47.254 --> 01:12:48.894
[UNKNOWN]: Like, is it just all talk here?
01:12:48.954 --> 01:12:50.415
[UNKNOWN]: We need some sort of accountability.
01:12:50.615 --> 01:12:52.255
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, they have an opportunity,
01:12:55.375 --> 01:13:10.758
[UNKNOWN]: Ask for some sort of visitation and some, you know, something to happen here, something that doesn't result in impunity that doesn't result in no accountability for what's taking place here, you know, and so that's another sort of avenue and then of course there's also within these really courts.
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:13.440
[UNKNOWN]: There is the fight that's there.
01:13:13.460 --> 01:13:27.006
[UNKNOWN]: There are petitions being filed by human rights groups trying to get the red cross to be able to visit Palestinians as well as trying to have some sort of due process play out some sort of visitation and you know I'll be frank with you.
01:13:27.026 --> 01:13:35.810
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be on this Katie like it's not been does not been a lot of momentum around this you know and it's just not been enough energy and a lot of political will that.
01:13:36.430 --> 01:13:37.911
[UNKNOWN]: There's plenty of people ready to support.
01:13:38.011 --> 01:13:42.613
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the masses are signing onto these petitions, they're reposting, they're commenting.
01:13:43.574 --> 01:13:47.656
[UNKNOWN]: But we cannot get, for example, our state department to do anything about this.
01:13:47.696 --> 01:13:51.658
[UNKNOWN]: We cannot get the UN Security Council to pass any sort of resolution.
01:13:51.698 --> 01:13:56.100
[UNKNOWN]: We cannot get member states that claim to be champions of human rights to acknowledge this.
01:13:56.741 --> 01:14:04.465
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, at this point, I want to appeal to the Pope and to the Catholic Church and say, you guys are the largest real estate owner in Jerusalem.
01:14:05.285 --> 01:14:09.808
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, and they've actually been able to visit Gaza twice since the genocide.
01:14:09.828 --> 01:14:13.090
[UNKNOWN]: They've been able to send a cardinal to visit the churches there in Gaza.
01:14:13.530 --> 01:14:25.177
[UNKNOWN]: I would hope that maybe they can visit some of the Palestinian prisoners, you know, just something that we need, we need something and I hope that this is like, I hope that what's going on with Dr. Hassan, that people wake up before it's too late.
01:14:26.057 --> 01:14:27.418
[UNKNOWN]: And what is he like as a person?
01:14:28.341 --> 01:14:31.983
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he is, he's such an incredible human being.
01:14:32.023 --> 01:14:34.485
[UNKNOWN]: Like, he's already an amazing pediatrician.
01:14:34.845 --> 01:14:38.287
[UNKNOWN]: He is somebody who, you know, you're really trust this medical opinion.
01:14:38.307 --> 01:14:39.808
[UNKNOWN]: You're like, you want to take your kid to him.
01:14:40.228 --> 01:14:43.070
[UNKNOWN]: But on top of that, he's just a witty person.
01:14:43.350 --> 01:14:46.472
[UNKNOWN]: He can, you know, his timing, his comedic timing is great.
01:14:46.512 --> 01:14:48.794
[UNKNOWN]: He's somebody who's always trying to take a positive note.
01:14:49.154 --> 01:14:55.678
[UNKNOWN]: He never shy away from like any sort of interview, even when people when I was there and I saw people tell him,
01:14:56.218 --> 01:15:01.162
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we were in a group chat together and they're like, be careful, like tone it down a bit, you never shy away.
01:15:01.342 --> 01:15:02.783
[UNKNOWN]: He was just like, I got to say what it is.
01:15:03.244 --> 01:15:10.009
[UNKNOWN]: And I remember when the hospitals generator had been struck by an Israeli drone and there was this concern that the power was going to go out.
01:15:10.810 --> 01:15:17.415
[UNKNOWN]: I remember him like sending a message and showing how people were repairing it and like how excited he was to get it back up in running.
01:15:17.816 --> 01:15:19.497
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's the kind of guy you're talking about.
01:15:19.517 --> 01:15:23.120
[UNKNOWN]: Somebody who's passionate about his profession because of the way that it serves
01:15:26.483 --> 01:15:31.630
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, when I was in Gaza, I was not able to get to him because the North had been cut off from the South.
01:15:32.331 --> 01:15:40.523
[UNKNOWN]: And that was, that's one thing that I think about now is just not being able to see my colleagues at Shifah and that come out I do in and then, you know, these northern hospitals.
01:15:41.483 --> 01:15:47.826
[UNKNOWN]: The way that it was just sort of carved up and then all of them sort of being abducted or, you know, being displaced.
01:15:47.926 --> 01:15:54.289
[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, he's, and I'll say the same thing about some of these other medical doctors to the 14 doctors that are in these prisons.
01:15:55.149 --> 01:16:01.952
[UNKNOWN]: Dr. Mahmoudi, as an ICU doctor, I saw him refused to let this kid that was shot in the head sort of.
01:16:02.692 --> 01:16:04.835
[UNKNOWN]: die on the floor of the hospital.
01:16:05.056 --> 01:16:08.220
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, I'm not, he, his words were, I'm not going to leave him.
01:16:08.360 --> 01:16:09.522
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to leave him like this.
01:16:09.803 --> 01:16:16.973
[UNKNOWN]: So he just sat next to this, you know, 10 year old, 11 year old and held his hand as he sort of drifted away.
01:16:16.993 --> 01:16:17.534
[UNKNOWN]: You know,
01:16:17.634 --> 01:16:25.257
[UNKNOWN]: When I saw Dr. Nahid who was the director of surgery, he would check in on all of the international workers as the bombing was getting closer to the hospital.
01:16:25.437 --> 01:16:26.618
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this hospital was shaking.
01:16:27.038 --> 01:16:28.018
[UNKNOWN]: He's knocking on the door.
01:16:28.378 --> 01:16:29.759
[UNKNOWN]: Don't worry, everything is okay.
01:16:29.819 --> 01:16:31.500
[UNKNOWN]: I promise we'll take care of you like that.
01:16:31.580 --> 01:16:33.200
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, these are the people that are in these prisons.
01:16:33.581 --> 01:16:35.421
[UNKNOWN]: And Dr. Nahid I'll say one last thing about him.
01:16:36.602 --> 01:16:39.143
[UNKNOWN]: There are reports from other Palestinian prisoners who came out.
01:16:40.033 --> 01:16:48.555
[UNKNOWN]: that Dr. Nuhed, who was the director of surgery at Nosset Hospital in the south of Enhaniunis, he was doing procedures in the prison.
01:16:48.615 --> 01:16:50.055
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, there's an abscess.
01:16:50.095 --> 01:16:52.036
[UNKNOWN]: He's helping drain the abscess with these prisoners.
01:16:52.236 --> 01:16:54.096
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, these are the types of people that are there.
01:16:54.136 --> 01:17:00.917
[UNKNOWN]: And I contrast that with some of the prison docs that are refusing to treat them, that are sort of, you know, just sitting there watching this unfold.
01:17:00.938 --> 01:17:03.038
[UNKNOWN]: And I say, you know, this is, it's two different worlds.
01:17:04.263 --> 01:17:11.388
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is, it is so upsetting because it's like these are the, like the, like the, it's like the kind of people are the ones being punished the most.
01:17:12.008 --> 01:17:25.517
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is, it is, it is brutal and I don't want to like, you know, one thing I always try to be cognizant of is I also don't want to be like sort of the person that contributes to dehumanization and like, you know, just, you know, saying Your death victims.
01:17:25.758 --> 01:17:28.399
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and that they're perfect and all of these and all that.
01:17:28.419 --> 01:17:29.740
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, are the other extreme.
01:17:29.780 --> 01:17:33.163
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but, but, but as somebody who is involved in
01:17:33.823 --> 01:17:39.208
[UNKNOWN]: medical education, I train the doctors who want to specialize in emergency medicine, and I lecture at medical schools.
01:17:39.589 --> 01:17:44.433
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I do notice something different about the healthcare workers in Gaza.
01:17:44.814 --> 01:17:53.021
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, maybe it's because it's so hard to finish specialized, and it's so hard to practice, and it really requires a dedication to the field.
01:17:53.082 --> 01:17:57.326
[UNKNOWN]: But they are, I mean, it really is just such a shame that they're cut off from the rest of the world.
01:17:57.366 --> 01:17:58.146
[UNKNOWN]: It's an absolute
01:17:58.947 --> 01:18:09.551
[UNKNOWN]: for the entire world, for the entire medical community, that these, that these people are under siege, that they are the ones who are under attack and that we're not allowed to sort of share their knowledge with the rest of the world.
01:18:10.731 --> 01:18:15.333
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I really think like the entire medical community should be like a shame.
01:18:15.493 --> 01:18:15.893
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
01:18:15.913 --> 01:18:24.176
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they, they will have, like, he said, I mean, apparently he said to his lawyer, talking about when you said, um, just the last time you're
01:18:27.990 --> 01:18:32.289
[UNKNOWN]: paraphrasing he was saying this the last time you're going to see me they brought me here to kill me.
01:18:32.722 --> 01:18:32.922
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:18:33.883 --> 01:18:47.970
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that, you know, what Dr. Asam is, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but, you know, there is something to about making sure that of these 14 doctors who've been there for almost two years putting these, you know, really keeping them in these Israeli prisons.
01:18:48.050 --> 01:18:58.796
[UNKNOWN]: It, they also, I feel probably the Israeli military needs to justify what they did to these hospitals and the way to do it is by getting these doctors, I don't know, to confess or to disappear or
01:19:00.757 --> 01:19:25.685
[UNKNOWN]: you know like it's it really feels at this point like what are why are you holding these be why are you holding up to a hundred health care workers it doesn't make any sense to me and I think that that's why i think that doctor for sands like in is is intuition is like they would be they would be very happy with him sort of dying in prison here and never being able to speak to the outside world about everything that he's seen over the last three years including his state and his really presents
01:19:27.194 --> 01:19:31.476
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's uh, this is the end, this is the last time you'll see me, they brought me here to kill me.
01:19:31.596 --> 01:19:36.259
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, how can these doctors around the world be silent in the face of this?
01:19:36.379 --> 01:19:39.120
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's going, I hope, I hope this moves them.
01:19:39.220 --> 01:19:48.986
[UNKNOWN]: I hope this moves people, but I also hope that you, if you don't say something like I want, this is not very productive, but like you should feel pain every single day of your life, honestly.
01:19:55.429 --> 01:19:57.771
[UNKNOWN]: and it was through a medical professional society.
01:19:58.272 --> 01:20:03.817
[UNKNOWN]: They canceled it and they canceled it because of pressure that was, you know, and it manifests in this way.
01:20:03.857 --> 01:20:10.183
[UNKNOWN]: This is why these societies are not speaking up the way they're not releasing statements, why they're not talking to lawmakers or to governments.
01:20:10.883 --> 01:20:18.226
[UNKNOWN]: It manifests in a way where suddenly my testimony or whatever I'm going to talk about when it comes to Gaza, Lebanon, the West thing.
01:20:19.506 --> 01:20:23.767
[UNKNOWN]: If I'm going to speak about something, then it has to come and also speak about something.
01:20:23.787 --> 01:20:29.789
[UNKNOWN]: And that's sort of, to me, that's absurd that we're willing to kind of even sort of engage in this.
01:20:29.809 --> 01:20:31.070
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, why?
01:20:32.170 --> 01:20:38.354
[UNKNOWN]: To me it's like, why if I'm a Palestinian, if I want to talk about Palestine or Palestinians, why do I have to bring up anybody else?
01:20:38.654 --> 01:20:42.477
[UNKNOWN]: Why can't I just talk about my people as a member of the diaspora?
01:20:42.497 --> 01:20:44.178
[UNKNOWN]: Why can't I talk about the medical situation?
01:20:44.238 --> 01:20:45.619
[UNKNOWN]: You wouldn't do that for Ukraine.
01:20:45.639 --> 01:20:50.222
[UNKNOWN]: You wouldn't say if you're going to talk about Ukraine, you better mention Russia and their medical system.
01:20:59.728 --> 01:21:03.289
[UNKNOWN]: many times to bring up Dr. Hussain to talk about him over the last two years.
01:21:03.969 --> 01:21:14.291
[UNKNOWN]: So much so that one of my colleagues, Dr. Tammy, who served in Gaza, she went to one of their meetings and just got up in the middle of the speech for the president of the AMA and say, how are you still silent?
01:21:14.371 --> 01:21:15.632
[UNKNOWN]: Why are you not talking about this?
01:21:15.772 --> 01:21:16.512
[UNKNOWN]: On it, real.
01:21:16.712 --> 01:21:21.353
[UNKNOWN]: So it's not for a lack of, I think, members asking them to do something.
01:21:21.373 --> 01:21:22.693
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's just the cowardice.
01:21:22.733 --> 01:21:26.654
[UNKNOWN]: It's a lack of sort of that mortal, moral fiber to be able to stand up and say,
01:21:27.297 --> 01:21:28.858
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care if somebody's going to yell at me.
01:21:28.918 --> 01:21:33.861
[UNKNOWN]: This doesn't make sense that this kid's doctor is languishingly in May die, you know?
01:21:33.921 --> 01:21:52.453
[UNKNOWN]: So, and I guess I should say, this current administration is also, they are using sort of this, that they are using Palestine advocacy to punish non-profits, to strip them of their status, to label them in a certain fashion.
01:21:52.913 --> 01:21:57.796
[UNKNOWN]: And I understand that's a real, you know, I understand that's a real threat and I understand that you should something you should consider.
01:21:58.257 --> 01:22:08.064
[UNKNOWN]: But if it's going to change, you know, your position on something and going to force you to compromise your principles, then like what kind of institution are you and yeah, exactly what you're.
01:22:08.484 --> 01:22:14.048
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so, you know, that's just that's just my my sort of position on it, but yeah, it's been very frustrating.
01:22:14.858 --> 01:22:29.893
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and the more people speak out, of course, the harder it is to like stigmatize, you know, and the more normal it is for people to just be speaking out about this, the harder will be for the administration to single out in the institution because everyone all them would be.
01:22:30.777 --> 01:22:31.658
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
01:22:31.858 --> 01:22:34.080
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what do they think is going to happen?
01:22:34.120 --> 01:22:46.131
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, with each report that's being released by like the commission of inquiry at the United Nations or by Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch with all of these different as the data was being collected and the information is coming to the surface.
01:22:46.511 --> 01:22:47.872
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, what do they think is going to happen?
01:22:47.892 --> 01:22:54.277
[UNKNOWN]: Do they think people will forget that they were silent, or that they were censoring and dismissing these sorts of things?
01:22:54.357 --> 01:23:02.304
[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, whatever, but that's, you know, that I do believe that they, you know, that they will be held account for this as well.
01:23:02.324 --> 01:23:05.867
[UNKNOWN]: They're not going to be saved from, you know, their silence and ineptitude.
01:23:07.308 --> 01:23:25.971
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I believe you have to go, I want to ask you about more things, but I cannot hold you back because unlike the degenerates I'm about to bring on who I wouldn't mind is they're not saving lives that that's me just saying our first guest, but we find if they were nurses or something or like he is not I was just being in now they're not that they're great people.
01:23:27.015 --> 01:23:27.795
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much.
01:23:28.196 --> 01:23:29.316
[UNKNOWN]: I will see you in New York City.
01:23:29.336 --> 01:23:31.338
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to this screen and I'm very excited.
01:23:31.358 --> 01:23:31.638
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:23:31.958 --> 01:23:32.218
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:23:32.979 --> 01:23:33.299
[UNKNOWN]: Really.
01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:36.921
[UNKNOWN]: I'll put any links that you send us or any social media campaigns.
01:23:36.961 --> 01:23:40.964
[UNKNOWN]: We'll definitely put in description because and I actually my dad's a doctor.
01:23:41.004 --> 01:23:44.246
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to get him to do something and yeah.
01:23:45.186 --> 01:23:45.806
[UNKNOWN]: No, thank you.
01:23:45.846 --> 01:23:47.447
[UNKNOWN]: And thank you for everything that you do.
01:23:47.527 --> 01:24:11.157
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, well, we will, it's a talk that blind like you have to remember I actually had on Romsie Barude, I don't know if you know is he from Palestine Chronicle, he's talking about this line of like it's so devastating and the devastation is beyond like it's not comparable and unprecedented and then you also have, have like joy and humor at the same time and it's really unreal to see that.
01:24:11.177 --> 01:24:12.758
[UNKNOWN]: So right, totally totally.
01:24:13.238 --> 01:24:20.305
[UNKNOWN]: And as Bobby Sam said about the Irish, you know, with the Punga Shreaker said, our revenge will be the laughter of our grandchildren.
01:24:20.545 --> 01:24:22.047
[UNKNOWN]: So, from our children and grandchildren.
01:24:22.067 --> 01:24:22.667
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, so yeah.
01:24:22.787 --> 01:24:23.989
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, amazing.
01:24:24.269 --> 01:24:25.310
[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you so much.
01:24:25.610 --> 01:24:25.991
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
01:24:26.031 --> 01:24:26.671
[UNKNOWN]: Always a pleasure.
01:24:26.691 --> 01:24:27.212
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Katie.
01:24:27.863 --> 01:24:28.103
[UNKNOWN]: Great.
01:24:28.203 --> 01:24:28.843
[UNKNOWN]: Have a great night.
01:24:29.784 --> 01:24:30.664
[UNKNOWN]: That was amazing.
01:24:30.764 --> 01:24:33.505
[UNKNOWN]: I'm so I'm like in awe of people like that.
01:24:33.705 --> 01:24:36.206
[UNKNOWN]: I just, yeah, it's amazing.
01:24:36.426 --> 01:24:56.034
[UNKNOWN]: And it's so infuriating to know that people like these doctors, the last people on earth who should be, I don't want anyone to be tortured and incarcerated killed, but it's just especially like ironic that these people who are risking their lives to save the lives of others are being subjected to torture.
01:24:56.774 --> 01:24:59.475
[UNKNOWN]: And especially in this case where he could have left.
01:24:59.795 --> 01:25:02.096
[UNKNOWN]: He double citizen ship and he didn't.
01:25:02.236 --> 01:25:05.777
[UNKNOWN]: And anyway, about to bring on our next guests.
01:25:06.057 --> 01:25:07.358
[UNKNOWN]: And this will be hopeful.
01:25:07.418 --> 01:25:08.558
[UNKNOWN]: I think there'll be more levity.
01:25:08.578 --> 01:25:10.859
[UNKNOWN]: You'll be really weird if they were less levity.
01:25:11.259 --> 01:25:11.679
[UNKNOWN]: What them?
01:25:12.200 --> 01:25:19.122
[UNKNOWN]: I'm bringing on Matt Lee, Daniel Mattei, co-host of the most moral podcast, Bat has barra.
01:25:19.162 --> 01:25:20.202
[UNKNOWN]: Welcome, Matt, and Daniel.
01:25:21.123 --> 01:25:23.904
[UNKNOWN]: Who are you calling the degenerate?
01:25:25.410 --> 01:25:27.691
[UNKNOWN]: How dare you?
01:25:28.572 --> 01:25:28.992
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
01:25:29.432 --> 01:25:30.153
[UNKNOWN]: What's up, everyone?
01:25:31.594 --> 01:25:32.174
[UNKNOWN]: I need that.
01:25:32.434 --> 01:25:33.895
[UNKNOWN]: Brad, can you make that for me?
01:25:34.335 --> 01:25:35.796
[UNKNOWN]: Clearly I can, JD.
01:25:36.096 --> 01:25:37.737
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, you can make one of them.
01:25:38.058 --> 01:25:41.980
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure how good my hotel Wi-Fi is, but I just want to say, it looks good.
01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:47.203
[UNKNOWN]: I object, strangely to the characterization of us not saving lives.
01:25:47.223 --> 01:25:52.526
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what Matt did today, but I drove the ice fields parkway from Lake Louise, Alberta, to Jasper.
01:25:53.187 --> 01:25:54.848
[UNKNOWN]: And I did the killer sing them out and go.
01:25:56.106 --> 01:25:56.466
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:25:56.987 --> 01:26:08.017
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I didn't, I saw a bear in a river and I didn't find a weapon and shoot it and I didn't kill anyone else in any other vehicle or on the road.
01:26:08.097 --> 01:26:08.677
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't count.
01:26:08.697 --> 01:26:10.939
[UNKNOWN]: You can't just be like, I didn't kill anyone today.
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:22.810
[UNKNOWN]: That, that's, that's the kind of thing you didn't, if you went, if you went to Costco, if you went to Costco and you didn't spend a certain amount of money because you bought it in bulk, you would have saved money, yes.
01:26:23.851 --> 01:26:26.052
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, oh my god, I'm Jack to this.
01:26:26.292 --> 01:26:27.913
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't I think he's convinced me.
01:26:28.513 --> 01:26:28.873
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
01:26:29.413 --> 01:26:30.093
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're welcome.
01:26:30.293 --> 01:26:39.117
[UNKNOWN]: Every person that I live Is someone who I saved don't you guys don't you love this don't you love that?
01:26:39.257 --> 01:26:39.657
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
01:26:40.457 --> 01:26:42.798
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, yes, I want to do that
01:26:43.494 --> 01:26:44.074
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, everyone.
01:26:44.254 --> 01:26:45.055
[UNKNOWN]: I want to read.
01:26:45.315 --> 01:26:46.155
[UNKNOWN]: I wish we could read.
01:26:46.415 --> 01:26:49.676
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he actually what we should do is you should read some Kaley Stevens quotes.
01:26:50.016 --> 01:26:52.157
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, what the with the auto tune, absolutely.
01:26:52.277 --> 01:26:53.997
[UNKNOWN]: I'd be happy to do that.
01:26:54.197 --> 01:27:01.920
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I wanted to bring you on because we were talking in the first segment about Kaley Stevens, you know, this woman who's running against
01:27:02.500 --> 01:27:03.380
[UNKNOWN]: I'll talk to her.
01:27:03.461 --> 01:27:04.161
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be eating that.
01:27:04.201 --> 01:27:05.101
[UNKNOWN]: I'll do a lot of diet.
01:27:05.121 --> 01:27:06.862
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, another great doctor.
01:27:07.402 --> 01:27:10.684
[UNKNOWN]: And I want to make sure that we, everyone, you've seen this video.
01:27:10.704 --> 01:27:12.404
[UNKNOWN]: But let's just show it one more time, Brad.
01:27:12.484 --> 01:27:15.466
[UNKNOWN]: Can you maybe, you want to show the website, actually?
01:27:15.586 --> 01:27:20.048
[UNKNOWN]: And then this is a website that they built out of her, out of her viral speech.
01:27:20.908 --> 01:27:22.449
[UNKNOWN]: OK, it's called Haley Facts.
01:27:22.489 --> 01:27:23.749
[UNKNOWN]: Haley Facts.
01:27:25.450 --> 01:27:27.991
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know it sounds like Califax, but it's called Haley Facts.
01:27:28.511 --> 01:27:29.012
[UNKNOWN]: And it's, um,
01:27:29.940 --> 01:27:37.725
[UNKNOWN]: in response to like this, they made a website about dual sciad that's like supposed to be apo and literally all it is is like insinuation and headlines.
01:27:38.065 --> 01:27:40.707
[UNKNOWN]: This guy wants to give you free communist health care.
01:27:40.727 --> 01:27:41.648
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:27:41.848 --> 01:27:42.168
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:27:42.348 --> 01:27:44.730
[UNKNOWN]: This guy wants to make sure everybody flex.
01:27:45.370 --> 01:27:50.314
[UNKNOWN]: For Israel's existence is real comes to me in my dream.
01:27:57.787 --> 01:28:01.708
[UNKNOWN]: I will continue to fight for the people of Israel.
01:28:02.308 --> 01:28:06.270
[UNKNOWN]: I will continue for Israel's existence.
01:28:07.110 --> 01:28:09.250
[UNKNOWN]: Israel comes to me in my dreams.
01:28:09.631 --> 01:28:11.291
[UNKNOWN]: I see Israel's future.
01:28:11.591 --> 01:28:13.132
[UNKNOWN]: Why is she trying to fuck Israel?
01:28:13.292 --> 01:28:14.612
[UNKNOWN]: Can I leave now?
01:28:14.932 --> 01:28:19.514
[UNKNOWN]: Get out of my dreams, get into my bank account.
01:28:21.314 --> 01:28:22.234
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, why?
01:28:22.294 --> 01:28:25.715
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so I'm trying to explain to people without being like...
01:28:29.011 --> 01:28:33.647
[UNKNOWN]: or like, or something like getting harder and harder getting getting hard.
01:28:35.193 --> 01:28:46.559
[UNKNOWN]: This woman is not, you know, she sure isn't so I mean, again, it's like, I'm not, I'm not saying sanctioning so annoying because it could mean both things better opposite mean it.
01:28:46.839 --> 01:28:48.019
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, it's a country name.
01:28:48.059 --> 01:28:48.459
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:28:48.499 --> 01:28:50.200
[UNKNOWN]: It's a word that can that contains.
01:28:50.240 --> 01:28:50.821
[UNKNOWN]: It's up.
01:28:50.841 --> 01:28:52.121
[UNKNOWN]: That's what it's saying.
01:28:52.141 --> 01:28:59.985
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like dust, if you dust a shelf, you're moving, you're moving particles from the, sorry, the connections bad here, but if you dust to cake, you're putting particles on it.
01:29:00.325 --> 01:29:00.685
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
01:29:00.725 --> 01:29:01.125
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:29:02.666 --> 01:29:04.568
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I just want it.
01:29:04.768 --> 01:29:08.570
[UNKNOWN]: Again, I'm not like condoning or giving people who are Jewish.
01:29:08.730 --> 01:29:13.834
[UNKNOWN]: Again, I'm jail free card if they say that Israel comes to them in their dreams, but it's like a little weirder.
01:29:13.874 --> 01:29:19.458
[UNKNOWN]: It is always weirder when they're not Jewish and saying that like get out of jail free.
01:29:29.685 --> 01:29:34.067
[UNKNOWN]: No, Christian Zionism is a thousand times weirder than any other Zionism.
01:29:34.087 --> 01:29:38.110
[UNKNOWN]: And I say that not because any other Zionism is somehow better.
01:29:38.310 --> 01:29:52.357
[UNKNOWN]: But because Christian Zionism relies on this weird, agreed thing, where everyone fetishizes the state of Israel, which like, it's one thing to do that because it's like, well, but it's my personal ethno state.
01:29:52.657 --> 01:29:56.600
[UNKNOWN]: It's another thing entirely to do it because it's like your best friends
01:29:59.787 --> 01:30:15.171
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I get, yeah, I mean, it's just like, I think that, and this is not, and this is not whitewashing like secular Zionism, but you can often have like, and this is something problematic, you know, Pat Progressive Accept on Palestine, right?
01:30:15.191 --> 01:30:21.772
[UNKNOWN]: Like what something scary about it is that you can have normal ideas, and then you also embrace an ethno state, right?
01:30:22.132 --> 01:30:24.333
[UNKNOWN]: But like to be a Christian talking about
01:30:29.935 --> 01:30:32.303
[UNKNOWN]: You know, indoctrination, brainwashing.
01:30:33.129 --> 01:30:36.511
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't even, I don't even really know what it is.
01:30:36.631 --> 01:30:42.195
[UNKNOWN]: Like I, I feel like I have yet to go deep under cover.
01:30:42.835 --> 01:30:49.059
[UNKNOWN]: And I kind of want to, to like a Christian evangelical church just to see what the Zionism is like.
01:30:49.219 --> 01:30:55.243
[UNKNOWN]: Because when the video is I've seen, it's like it's pretty insane.
01:30:55.303 --> 01:31:00.907
[UNKNOWN]: It's the like peak phyllo semitism where they are just like, you know, they talk about, you know,
01:31:01.407 --> 01:31:06.511
[UNKNOWN]: The poor Jews, you know, had, had death brought upon them by it off Hitler.
01:31:06.912 --> 01:31:11.475
[UNKNOWN]: And now it is their turn to turn the tables on the world.
01:31:11.535 --> 01:31:12.856
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just like, way, that's weird.
01:31:12.916 --> 01:31:15.999
[UNKNOWN]: Why would you be no one should be killing anybody on mass.
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:16.839
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we doing this?
01:31:18.421 --> 01:31:22.824
[UNKNOWN]: Well, especially because we're going to have to die most of us will have to die during the end times also.
01:31:22.904 --> 01:31:23.545
[UNKNOWN]: So there's that.
01:31:24.007 --> 01:31:26.488
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the other things, the end-time prophecy thing.
01:31:26.528 --> 01:31:36.073
[UNKNOWN]: But that kind of like, it's like, I kind of get why Zionists Jews are fine with that because they're like, yeah, because yeah, that's not going to happen.
01:31:36.093 --> 01:31:39.775
[UNKNOWN]: You guys, whatever fair tell you want to believe, that's fine, just help Israel.
01:31:40.415 --> 01:31:44.978
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we need to get Haley Stevens over to the Kinescent for a Jerusalem prayer breakfast.
01:31:45.178 --> 01:31:45.998
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
01:31:46.218 --> 01:31:46.778
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
01:31:47.259 --> 01:31:49.520
[UNKNOWN]: She would crush it at the Jerusalem prayer breakfast.
01:31:49.820 --> 01:31:50.220
[UNKNOWN]: She would.
01:31:50.700 --> 01:31:52.301
[UNKNOWN]: Did you see that clip Katie of the,
01:31:54.327 --> 01:31:55.068
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's so good.
01:31:55.208 --> 01:32:01.414
[UNKNOWN]: So first of all, sorry, I can't, I can't tell if there's a lag over there because there's a lag over here.
01:32:01.714 --> 01:32:02.635
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's just for me.
01:32:02.655 --> 01:32:03.816
[UNKNOWN]: What I can tell, there's no lag.
01:32:03.876 --> 01:32:09.241
[UNKNOWN]: I can't, it's going to, it's going to be hard for me to do my usual collaborative overlap thing.
01:32:09.341 --> 01:32:10.262
[UNKNOWN]: It's a famous humor.
01:32:10.402 --> 01:32:11.463
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:32:11.743 --> 01:32:14.906
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be a little clunky, but so there was a video, uh,
01:32:15.587 --> 01:32:26.212
[UNKNOWN]: Katie of a bunch of international Christian ministers in the Knesset at what was called a Jerusalem prayer breakfast.
01:32:26.272 --> 01:32:28.113
[UNKNOWN]: And in the Knesset, they each take turns.
01:32:28.133 --> 01:32:28.994
[UNKNOWN]: What is how we say?
01:32:29.074 --> 01:32:30.455
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of a Eurovision.
01:32:30.655 --> 01:32:34.236
[UNKNOWN]: It was a Eurovision for a sequence, a contrition.
01:32:34.677 --> 01:32:37.778
[UNKNOWN]: And they each went up and just subdued themselves.
01:32:38.098 --> 01:32:38.559
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
01:32:40.420 --> 01:32:42.181
[UNKNOWN]: And they just Backman on the right.
01:32:42.241 --> 01:32:43.022
[UNKNOWN]: That's Michelle back.
01:32:43.042 --> 01:32:43.442
[UNKNOWN]: Very good.
01:32:43.642 --> 01:32:49.426
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so there was there were mostly Americans, but they were also and you can you can request an invitation.
01:32:50.407 --> 01:32:51.628
[UNKNOWN]: Nice request.
01:32:51.688 --> 01:32:52.769
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, it's by invitation.
01:32:53.069 --> 01:32:54.050
[UNKNOWN]: That's really funny.
01:32:54.250 --> 01:32:56.452
[UNKNOWN]: I would love to go to some private.
01:32:56.652 --> 01:32:57.672
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, there was Germans.
01:32:57.933 --> 01:33:05.278
[UNKNOWN]: There was a couple of Brits who were like, yeah, Lord, our father forgiveness for not helping the Jews and Germans were like,
01:33:05.618 --> 01:33:25.778
[UNKNOWN]: Please forgive us for anti-Semitism, but we gave the prize to a Korean woman who she said that she was like both South and we won't do the accent But both South and North Korea needs to come together to apologize for a period of Jesus for forgiveness and she's like wow like phyllo semitism is gonna reunify the island of Korea
01:33:25.858 --> 01:33:29.239
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and we were, I don't know, the peninsula of Korea.
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:31.080
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, she was incredible.
01:33:31.380 --> 01:33:32.220
[UNKNOWN]: She was crying.
01:33:32.700 --> 01:33:38.082
[UNKNOWN]: And Jews, the only one who really, you know, put her whole, her whole fucking into it, you know what I mean?
01:33:38.122 --> 01:33:44.684
[UNKNOWN]: Like she really just was like, I'm going all out, I'm gonna be weeping, openly weeping in the canesia.
01:33:45.524 --> 01:33:50.347
[UNKNOWN]: begging for forgiveness from God and the state of Israel.
01:33:51.668 --> 01:34:05.277
[UNKNOWN]: There's like a level of, for lack of a better word, unfortunately, co-fifthness that a lot of Christian evangelicals exhibit when it comes to Israel, and it seems to be for a purpose that I don't fully understand other than
01:34:07.499 --> 01:34:15.505
[UNKNOWN]: I guess they get some sort of support for their mega churches, I don't really know, but you know, it's it's more than just covering.
01:34:19.358 --> 01:34:23.519
[UNKNOWN]: Look, we don't have our usual disclaimer or bumper.
01:34:23.799 --> 01:34:28.120
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to just mention that I listened to a Tucker Carlson episode, and everyone can yell at me.
01:34:28.380 --> 01:34:30.341
[UNKNOWN]: We usually have a bumper before.
01:34:30.361 --> 01:34:31.801
[UNKNOWN]: Or he mentioned Tucker Carlson.
01:34:31.821 --> 01:34:34.702
[UNKNOWN]: Those are for you mentioned, and that's why we're not endorsing.
01:34:34.822 --> 01:34:40.083
[UNKNOWN]: But on my long road trip, I listen to things, you know, and I'd say about mine come.
01:34:40.823 --> 01:34:41.023
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:34:41.463 --> 01:34:47.645
[UNKNOWN]: I'd say about three out of every five Tucker episodes are non-insane, but two out of every five are completely bonkers.
01:34:48.534 --> 01:35:00.062
[UNKNOWN]: I listened to one that was somewhere in between, and it was a guy who went actually, not undercover, but he's a Christian guy who did a deep investigative thing on the Christian church.
01:35:00.482 --> 01:35:12.050
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, these are people who are concerned about it from the inside, a deeply religious spiritual person, who thinks that the spirit of Christianity and the nature of American sovereignty are being attacked here.
01:35:12.130 --> 01:35:16.033
[UNKNOWN]: And he talked about not just like the ideological capture,
01:35:17.307 --> 01:35:26.329
[UNKNOWN]: like the geo-fencing, the hundreds of millions of dollars that Israel concertedly puts into infiltrating and... You know what I'm saying?
01:35:26.809 --> 01:35:27.549
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:35:27.609 --> 01:35:28.849
[UNKNOWN]: The duo-fencing, exactly.
01:35:29.389 --> 01:35:30.750
[UNKNOWN]: It's a huge campaign.
01:35:31.370 --> 01:35:38.691
[UNKNOWN]: It's as real as their, you know, global has borrowed, like it's a very specific part of their has borrowed that we haven't covered very much because we don't, we're not inside of it.
01:35:38.971 --> 01:35:41.872
[UNKNOWN]: But it's actually a remarkable, it was a remarkable conversation.
01:35:42.873 --> 01:36:00.660
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we should cover more of it because I think also when we started the podcast for the, not the first time, but like for, I think a real significant proportion of the Jewish institutions that were one sort of, um,
01:36:01.897 --> 01:36:06.939
[UNKNOWN]: If not quietly supporting Israel, we're tacitly supporting Israel.
01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:12.582
[UNKNOWN]: All of a sudden, after October 7th, they all sounded like Christian Zionists make a churches.
01:36:12.862 --> 01:36:15.323
[UNKNOWN]: So weird, you would think it would be the opposite, but no.
01:36:15.563 --> 01:36:28.329
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so like before then, I had definitely covered more when I worked at Al Jazeera of the Christian Zionists, evangelical sect that was made up the majority of Zionists in this country.
01:36:29.089 --> 01:36:41.589
[UNKNOWN]: And then after October 7th, that was just like, Oh, no, it's the evangelical, evangelical vacation of all Jews in America, not all Jews, not all Jewish, most Jewish in today, too, Shenzhen.
01:36:42.305 --> 01:37:03.415
[UNKNOWN]: Right, but we should definitely I think go more deep into it because it is fascinating to me to how much money they spend on like PR, just for secular, you know, the sake of like secular media, how much money do you think they spend for Christian media specifically is probably a non insignificant amount.
01:37:03.455 --> 01:37:09.618
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're talking about tours, right, where we were talking about, there's, I mean, the red halfers are expensive too.
01:37:10.078 --> 01:37:11.558
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're going to get no doubt.
01:37:11.618 --> 01:37:11.918
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:37:12.178 --> 01:37:12.459
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:37:13.339 --> 01:37:26.121
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I want to show you guys before we, and I know you have some videos that you wanted to show Daniel, but before we get to that, I do want to just close the the Haley Stevens loop a little bit, because I want to show some videos of her.
01:37:26.562 --> 01:37:30.442
[UNKNOWN]: And also, we have a kind of shocking update.
01:37:30.482 --> 01:37:32.963
[UNKNOWN]: You're never going to believe who who came up
01:37:33.423 --> 01:37:41.309
[UNKNOWN]: during a down a batch interview with Netanyahu which literally took place today but in order to appreciate that, let's see some more Haley.
01:37:41.349 --> 01:37:43.290
[UNKNOWN]: So here's Haley on a tour, right?
01:37:43.350 --> 01:37:46.472
[UNKNOWN]: This is her on a bus tour in the Holy Lamb.
01:37:46.512 --> 01:37:47.373
[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look at this.
01:37:47.433 --> 01:37:47.673
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:37:48.924 --> 01:38:14.204
[UNKNOWN]: It is Congresswoman Lee Stevenson, the great state of Michigan, and I am with 20 of my Democratic colleagues from all over our great nation, Colorado, Ohio, North Carolina, and fellow Michiganers, and we are here in the beautiful country of Israel, learning about her democracy, learning about our shared commitment to national defense, economic development and
01:38:16.590 --> 01:38:21.311
[UNKNOWN]: I just shuttered thinking of what her Hebrew would sound like in that Midwestern accent.
01:38:23.287 --> 01:38:24.587
[UNKNOWN]: Baruka Sham.
01:38:26.127 --> 01:38:27.088
[UNKNOWN]: I can't even do it right.
01:38:27.368 --> 01:38:29.048
[UNKNOWN]: I sounded a Jamaican.
01:38:29.808 --> 01:38:30.688
[UNKNOWN]: No, those vowels.
01:38:30.788 --> 01:38:33.809
[UNKNOWN]: Those vowels are the least sometic vowels I've ever heard in my life.
01:38:34.469 --> 01:38:35.309
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know the heart.
01:38:35.349 --> 01:38:36.509
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they really are.
01:38:37.129 --> 01:38:50.452
[UNKNOWN]: So now given that, given that, amazing clip, it's going to make it all the more painful for us to see this interaction between Netanyahu and Dana Bash.
01:38:50.672 --> 01:38:51.392
[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a listen.
01:38:54.036 --> 01:39:07.801
[UNKNOWN]: So some American Jews in Congress, who support Israel and support what you just said, say that a lot of the actions by you and your government are making Jews in the United States unsafe.
01:39:07.921 --> 01:39:14.524
[UNKNOWN]: Congresswoman Haley Stevens, she's running for Senate in Michigan, said Benjamin Netanyahu has made us less safe.
01:39:14.864 --> 01:39:18.605
[UNKNOWN]: He has frankly put Jews in an uncomfortable position across the country.
01:39:19.306 --> 01:39:19.626
[UNKNOWN]: Have you?
01:39:21.554 --> 01:39:26.757
[UNKNOWN]: It's made her uncomfortable because she can't stand up for the truth.
01:39:26.777 --> 01:39:29.699
[UNKNOWN]: She's trying to probably excuse anti-Semitism.
01:39:29.739 --> 01:39:30.920
[UNKNOWN]: She's not.
01:39:31.020 --> 01:39:32.741
[UNKNOWN]: She's, I mean, I just want to explain.
01:39:32.781 --> 01:39:34.342
[UNKNOWN]: She's somebody who supports Israel.
01:39:34.703 --> 01:39:37.665
[UNKNOWN]: She supports funding Israel, which is diminishing big time.
01:39:37.685 --> 01:39:38.605
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:39:38.625 --> 01:39:39.426
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:39:39.446 --> 01:39:41.107
[UNKNOWN]: She supports anti-Semitism.
01:39:41.147 --> 01:39:43.789
[UNKNOWN]: She would support me and all the babies I want to kill.
01:39:43.929 --> 01:39:45.750
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let me tell you, we track.
01:39:45.770 --> 01:39:47.011
[UNKNOWN]: I can't think of one time.
01:39:47.051 --> 01:39:49.372
[UNKNOWN]: She gave me a hand job or even sent me a hand job.
01:39:49.392 --> 01:39:51.853
[UNKNOWN]: I'm objected to the, uh, the Gallipols.
01:39:52.014 --> 01:39:52.854
[UNKNOWN]: It's okay.
01:39:52.874 --> 01:40:00.758
[UNKNOWN]: But what's so funny is that, like, this is, like, this is what, what it looks like, if Dana bashed, like pushes back on allegations of anti-Semitism.
01:40:00.818 --> 01:40:03.300
[UNKNOWN]: And we never see this because she never does that.
01:40:03.320 --> 01:40:04.020
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:40:04.080 --> 01:40:05.321
[UNKNOWN]: It's a Zion, that's right.
01:40:05.341 --> 01:40:08.363
[UNKNOWN]: She's like, no, no, no, like, prime minister, like, don't worry.
01:40:08.403 --> 01:40:10.424
[UNKNOWN]: This woman hates Palestinians.
01:40:10.704 --> 01:40:12.565
[UNKNOWN]: She loves you and general.
01:40:12.845 --> 01:40:15.688
[UNKNOWN]: Don't, she's just as racist as you'd want her to be.
01:40:15.888 --> 01:40:16.188
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:16.268 --> 01:40:17.009
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
01:40:17.029 --> 01:40:17.770
[UNKNOWN]: Like, don't worry.
01:40:17.790 --> 01:40:17.970
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:17.990 --> 01:40:18.210
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:18.230 --> 01:40:18.391
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:18.411 --> 01:40:20.172
[UNKNOWN]: Like, she's not one of those guys.
01:40:20.192 --> 01:40:20.333
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:20.393 --> 01:40:28.380
[UNKNOWN]: For a second, you thought that maybe she didn't enjoy watching video after video of families being murdered and ripped apart by the idea.
01:40:28.661 --> 01:40:29.241
[UNKNOWN]: You're wrong.
01:40:29.301 --> 01:40:30.082
[UNKNOWN]: She loves that.
01:40:30.422 --> 01:40:31.403
[UNKNOWN]: She eats it for breakfast.
01:40:31.664 --> 01:40:31.824
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:31.904 --> 01:40:33.626
[UNKNOWN]: But I haven't said that.
01:40:33.646 --> 01:40:34.687
[UNKNOWN]: She has some critiques of you.
01:40:35.628 --> 01:40:40.069
[UNKNOWN]: If he has some critiques that it's not good for the Jews, that's what her critiques really is.
01:40:40.129 --> 01:40:41.309
[UNKNOWN]: The blow, it's the blow back.
01:40:41.329 --> 01:40:43.349
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it makes Jews uncaught on safe.
01:40:43.489 --> 01:40:43.830
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:40:44.430 --> 01:40:50.151
[UNKNOWN]: And it is hilarious though that you could just see Dan of being like, I should have given and then these talking points before.
01:40:50.191 --> 01:40:52.451
[UNKNOWN]: I should have prepped him on who she was.
01:40:52.691 --> 01:41:01.993
[UNKNOWN]: I do love the question of, so what do you say to that allegation that you indeed are the reason for spreading anti-Semitism,
01:41:02.653 --> 01:41:04.134
[UNKNOWN]: Thoughts Benjamin then y'all.
01:41:04.174 --> 01:41:17.938
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like, what is he supposed to say in that situation other than no, she's lied Yeah, this Well, I mean, they could do the whole world know that is we've always faced anti-feminism and you know
01:41:18.773 --> 01:41:23.535
[UNKNOWN]: If we could slip them a truth serum, he'd say, that's the idea.
01:41:23.936 --> 01:41:24.356
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
01:41:24.416 --> 01:41:24.816
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:41:24.896 --> 01:41:25.656
[UNKNOWN]: That's what we need.
01:41:25.676 --> 01:41:26.557
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we need it.
01:41:26.617 --> 01:41:28.178
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
01:41:28.458 --> 01:41:28.698
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:41:28.758 --> 01:41:30.819
[UNKNOWN]: That's our gross national export.
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:31.559
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:41:31.820 --> 01:41:34.821
[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, Nate or Brad, can you one of you?
01:41:34.881 --> 01:41:42.765
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I want to show the the new ad, the Haley Stevens ad, that campaign, and that I found and tweeted out.
01:41:43.445 --> 01:41:44.066
[UNKNOWN]: there's more.
01:41:44.266 --> 01:41:44.666
[UNKNOWN]: I love.
01:41:44.966 --> 01:41:45.166
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:41:45.266 --> 01:41:48.628
[UNKNOWN]: All right, P. Mallory, Mimaro's campaign by the way.
01:41:48.708 --> 01:41:49.308
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, sure.
01:41:49.328 --> 01:41:50.269
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:41:50.409 --> 01:41:55.031
[UNKNOWN]: Also, actually, we have the Mallory Mimaro, but I'm going to play this, which we have here.
01:41:55.251 --> 01:41:56.512
[UNKNOWN]: She now, she dropped out.
01:41:57.140 --> 01:41:59.001
[UNKNOWN]: She dropped that and she went hard.
01:41:59.381 --> 01:42:05.983
[UNKNOWN]: She really pushed the Hassan Piker is a problem and that's my red line and that backfired.
01:42:06.023 --> 01:42:11.664
[UNKNOWN]: But she also had a great response about what she thought the scariest thing to come out of October 7th.
01:42:11.684 --> 01:42:13.585
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this is just one of her names.
01:42:13.745 --> 01:42:17.946
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, she thought it was not Jewish, but her husband is Jewish and I guess they named her daughter Noah.
01:42:18.367 --> 01:42:19.547
[UNKNOWN]: So a Hebrew name.
01:42:19.887 --> 01:42:23.208
[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look at this video and then we can look at the other one.
01:42:27.380 --> 01:42:33.503
[UNKNOWN]: My husband is Jewish and an attendee screamed and anti-Semitic slur in his face.
01:42:35.064 --> 01:42:41.126
[UNKNOWN]: And the only thing that I could think of is, thank God, Noah, our daughter has an Israeli name.
01:42:42.027 --> 01:42:43.147
[UNKNOWN]: Thank God, she's not old enough.
01:42:43.207 --> 01:42:46.329
[UNKNOWN]: Name drop, like Israeli name, Hebrew drop.
01:42:46.409 --> 01:42:47.810
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, what those words mean.
01:42:49.530 --> 01:42:52.492
[UNKNOWN]: My daughter bears no responsibility.
01:42:53.621 --> 01:42:57.064
[UNKNOWN]: I thought she was gonna be like, there's no resemblance to her very Jewish looking father.
01:42:57.104 --> 01:42:57.385
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:42:57.625 --> 01:42:58.566
[UNKNOWN]: Thank God for that.
01:42:58.586 --> 01:43:02.790
[UNKNOWN]: No responsibility for no responsibility for what?
01:43:03.170 --> 01:43:03.330
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:43:03.351 --> 01:43:06.414
[UNKNOWN]: Mallory, no responsibility for what?
01:43:06.454 --> 01:43:08.355
[UNKNOWN]: Do you have to, let me, like, fill that in.
01:43:08.576 --> 01:43:08.816
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:43:08.976 --> 01:43:09.176
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:43:09.336 --> 01:43:11.859
[UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, okay, let's, well, let's see what she says.
01:43:12.886 --> 01:43:14.648
[UNKNOWN]: for the actions of the Netanyahu government.
01:43:14.868 --> 01:43:15.328
[UNKNOWN]: She doesn't.
01:43:15.989 --> 01:43:23.115
[UNKNOWN]: The 140 kids who are at Temple Israel bear no responsibility for the actions of the Netanyahu government.
01:43:23.155 --> 01:43:33.505
[UNKNOWN]: The attacker on the mosque in Texas, the person who's there bear no responsibility for any of the actions of Hamas.
01:43:34.529 --> 01:43:36.851
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we have to be able to come together.
01:43:36.871 --> 01:43:40.953
[UNKNOWN]: I took to the Senate floor shortly after the 2023 attacks here in Michigan.
01:43:41.374 --> 01:43:49.519
[UNKNOWN]: And I said, my greatest fear, as I watched the war begin, was that the actions in the Middle East will tear us apart at home.
01:43:50.740 --> 01:43:52.021
[UNKNOWN]: And that's still my greatest fear.
01:43:52.201 --> 01:43:54.242
[UNKNOWN]: That was Raphael, or he's greatest fear too.
01:43:54.643 --> 01:43:54.823
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:43:55.043 --> 01:43:56.424
[UNKNOWN]: I heard his last words were,
01:43:57.257 --> 01:43:59.259
[UNKNOWN]: Don't turn on each other, Mr. Genders.
01:43:59.479 --> 01:43:59.820
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:44:00.080 --> 01:44:01.661
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I couldn't believe that that.
01:44:01.802 --> 01:44:03.623
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, that's a greatest fear.
01:44:03.824 --> 01:44:06.586
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like the amputation capitals of the world.
01:44:07.027 --> 01:44:08.508
[UNKNOWN]: It's not a genocide.
01:44:08.568 --> 01:44:09.529
[UNKNOWN]: It's no, yeah.
01:44:09.710 --> 01:44:15.535
[UNKNOWN]: It's the same thing with the, you know, school children in Iran who were killed.
01:44:16.236 --> 01:44:16.496
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:44:17.017 --> 01:44:20.540
[UNKNOWN]: They were killed, and they were all shouting, vote blue no matter who.
01:44:21.201 --> 01:44:27.467
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they, they just wanted to let everyone know, you know, you got to vote Democrat or else is just kind of continue.
01:44:28.027 --> 01:44:32.932
[UNKNOWN]: And I do feel, let me, let me, let me workshop, let me workshop a play on words.
01:44:32.972 --> 01:44:33.272
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
01:44:33.372 --> 01:44:35.954
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the Jewish phrase made their memory be for a blessing.
01:44:36.875 --> 01:44:38.536
[UNKNOWN]: No, not for a, why not?
01:44:38.557 --> 01:44:42.100
[UNKNOWN]: You added the four, I guess you like a thousand, like a schmottes thousand.
01:44:42.120 --> 01:44:45.543
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, that is, let it, no, no, no, I'm telling you that's literally, no, it is.
01:44:45.863 --> 01:44:47.224
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it's made their memory be
01:44:48.276 --> 01:44:55.140
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's actually for a blessing in the sense of may it may be like if there's a sort of liturgical I mean, that's the literal translation.
01:44:55.360 --> 01:44:57.161
[UNKNOWN]: I see may be used for a blessing.
01:44:57.341 --> 01:44:58.881
[UNKNOWN]: It's fine, but either, but either one.
01:44:58.941 --> 01:44:59.422
[UNKNOWN]: Look at that.
01:44:59.482 --> 01:45:01.003
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're memory.
01:45:01.443 --> 01:45:04.364
[UNKNOWN]: I always defer to Daniel Daniel knows more about this shit than I do.
01:45:04.764 --> 01:45:06.765
[UNKNOWN]: I just he just knows this stuff.
01:45:06.805 --> 01:45:11.268
[UNKNOWN]: May they're and may they're memory except you make it sound like they're haggling like haggling.
01:45:11.308 --> 01:45:14.069
[UNKNOWN]: May they're memory before for a for a blessing.
01:45:14.129 --> 01:45:15.410
[UNKNOWN]: I'll give you a memory for a blessing.
01:45:15.430 --> 01:45:15.670
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:45:15.890 --> 01:45:20.551
[UNKNOWN]: Look, none of us are yesterday's students here, but this is not not the point in my point.
01:45:20.691 --> 01:45:22.071
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty presumptuous, yeah.
01:45:22.571 --> 01:45:36.354
[UNKNOWN]: May their memory may the memory of those killed in Gaza be addressing, which is to say, just like a light, god's covering on the wound of my grudges, maybe it may it may it be a nice soft
01:45:43.032 --> 01:45:45.155
[UNKNOWN]: Also, it's speaking of not saving lives.
01:45:45.275 --> 01:45:46.397
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he didn't save a life.
01:45:46.477 --> 01:45:48.460
[UNKNOWN]: Matt Bernstein didn't save my memory.
01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:49.121
[UNKNOWN]: More was life.
01:45:49.141 --> 01:45:49.601
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:45:49.962 --> 01:45:51.043
[UNKNOWN]: He ended that woman.
01:45:51.464 --> 01:45:53.166
[UNKNOWN]: We were actually going to have him on earlier.
01:45:53.387 --> 01:45:55.490
[UNKNOWN]: But it was, yeah, but we'll have him on another time.
01:45:55.530 --> 01:45:56.752
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, oh, Matt couldn't do it.
01:45:56.792 --> 01:45:58.975
[UNKNOWN]: So you're going to, let me get the lesser Matt.
01:45:59.623 --> 01:46:21.330
[UNKNOWN]: No, you guys, no, no, no, you guys, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
01:46:27.258 --> 01:46:44.066
[UNKNOWN]: So Robbie Hoffman, who, I don't really know Robbie's heart of hearts when it comes when it's political, but I do get the sense that Robbie has her heart in the right place and, you know, cast mates and friends with Poppy Lou who's been very, and Anne Hannah, I'm Bander.
01:46:44.086 --> 01:46:44.847
[UNKNOWN]: I've been very vocal.
01:46:45.487 --> 01:47:02.759
[UNKNOWN]: Robby grew up in an orthodox Jewish family in Brooklyn and Montreal, which is two cities I've lived in, so I also think Robby is just one of the funniest comedians I've ever seen in or in a long, long time like Borsfeld come back a very funny comedian very very funny
01:47:03.519 --> 01:47:10.301
[UNKNOWN]: And she was interviewed by the same New York Times Smart Merchant that interviewed Tucker Carlson in his kitchen.
01:47:10.681 --> 01:47:11.642
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot the woman's name.
01:47:13.462 --> 01:47:16.964
[UNKNOWN]: And there's a clip of her talking about anti-Semitism.
01:47:18.664 --> 01:47:19.824
[UNKNOWN]: And Lee Kern.
01:47:19.904 --> 01:47:22.265
[UNKNOWN]: I thought this because Lee Kern, quote, tweeted it.
01:47:22.365 --> 01:47:27.267
[UNKNOWN]: And I wanted to show it just partly so that Matt could do his Lee Kern voice to read the tweet.
01:47:27.755 --> 01:47:29.415
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, and if you don't know who Lee Kern is.
01:47:30.216 --> 01:47:33.316
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Lee Kern is a British.
01:47:34.656 --> 01:47:37.897
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say comic because I don't think he does stand up if he does.
01:47:37.937 --> 01:47:43.218
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know it is one of the nine writers of four at two and for some reason,
01:47:51.980 --> 01:47:58.843
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, so he has been incredibly vocal, pro Israel since October 7th and that.
01:47:59.163 --> 01:48:08.828
[UNKNOWN]: I wish, throw the Jew down the well, had been nominated for Best Original Sign, or the Jew down the well, and then Mel Gibson could have presented the award and would have had to have read out the name of it.
01:48:08.848 --> 01:48:10.509
[UNKNOWN]: On stage, that would have been really close.
01:48:10.529 --> 01:48:11.729
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:48:12.270 --> 01:48:12.650
[UNKNOWN]: But yes.
01:48:13.577 --> 01:48:15.919
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so we're at the sea robbing, okay.
01:48:16.339 --> 01:48:18.141
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see Robby and then we'll read what Lee said.
01:48:19.242 --> 01:48:22.285
[UNKNOWN]: Feel about anti-Semitism, like anti-Semitism is bad.
01:48:23.085 --> 01:48:24.246
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want anti-Semitism.
01:48:24.607 --> 01:48:25.087
[UNKNOWN]: I get that.
01:48:27.249 --> 01:48:28.330
[UNKNOWN]: But is it the worst thing?
01:48:30.468 --> 01:48:43.639
[UNKNOWN]: No, to me right now it's not, especially living in the country where there's massive anti-Mexican sentiment and Mexican people are currently being rounded up or made to fear that they're going to be rounded up.
01:48:44.099 --> 01:48:55.048
[UNKNOWN]: So sorry if I'm not screaming as much about anti-Semitism as you want me to, right now I have bigger focuses on some of my neighbors that are going through horrendous.
01:48:56.460 --> 01:49:00.467
[UNKNOWN]: anti, you know, anti-Mexican sentiment.
01:49:01.129 --> 01:49:06.779
[UNKNOWN]: So yes, it's bad, but I'm not such a person on things, oh, I'm gonna live a life.
01:49:07.892 --> 01:49:09.433
[UNKNOWN]: free of any problem.
01:49:09.653 --> 01:49:10.213
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
01:49:10.634 --> 01:49:10.814
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:49:10.974 --> 01:49:12.735
[UNKNOWN]: So first of all, it's so great.
01:49:12.815 --> 01:49:15.376
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I loved how it sounded like a bit at first.
01:49:15.396 --> 01:49:15.816
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:49:16.096 --> 01:49:16.677
[UNKNOWN]: It's bad.
01:49:17.017 --> 01:49:17.617
[UNKNOWN]: Do I want it?
01:49:17.717 --> 01:49:18.298
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want it.
01:49:18.678 --> 01:49:20.759
[UNKNOWN]: But is it the worst thing?
01:49:20.779 --> 01:49:21.259
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:49:21.519 --> 01:49:21.679
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:49:21.719 --> 01:49:22.240
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
01:49:22.340 --> 01:49:23.981
[UNKNOWN]: It's funny.
01:49:24.361 --> 01:49:26.342
[UNKNOWN]: But she was being completely sincere.
01:49:26.922 --> 01:49:47.032
[UNKNOWN]: I know she what she meant to she didn't mean is it inherently not the worst thing he meant given what of the proms right but it's and I really loved that first it's a bit like yeah it's not so bad you know whatever it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it
01:49:47.212 --> 01:49:50.255
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like we should show Lee Kern though first, but like I want it.
01:49:50.395 --> 01:49:51.616
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like we need to see what he looks like.
01:49:51.636 --> 01:49:52.056
[UNKNOWN]: Picture?
01:49:52.196 --> 01:49:52.416
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:49:52.617 --> 01:49:54.218
[UNKNOWN]: Picture an ugly ball.
01:49:54.238 --> 01:49:55.259
[UNKNOWN]: Can you do man on that?
01:49:55.279 --> 01:49:56.520
[UNKNOWN]: An ugly ball man.
01:49:56.540 --> 01:50:02.405
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just just picture just, you know, yeah, this is the best way to look at him.
01:50:03.966 --> 01:50:07.508
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, I'm awesome in his teacher.
01:50:07.868 --> 01:50:17.695
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he's wearing a hat, you know, because shame, self-hatred, all the reasons that you wear a hat, I say if you're if you're bald, just be bald, man.
01:50:17.995 --> 01:50:19.156
[UNKNOWN]: Not everyone's cool with it.
01:50:19.276 --> 01:50:22.638
[UNKNOWN]: All this beautiful, you know, you don't have to fucking, you know,
01:50:22.798 --> 01:50:30.541
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, actually now I know why he's such a Zionist because being really pro is real, let's you do stuff like this.
01:50:30.561 --> 01:50:31.541
[UNKNOWN]: Hold on, yeah.
01:50:31.721 --> 01:50:34.402
[UNKNOWN]: And if you don't like being bald, hold on.
01:50:34.662 --> 01:50:37.083
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, being pro is real, let's you wear a K-pop.
01:50:37.604 --> 01:50:38.504
[UNKNOWN]: Is that where you're gonna do it?
01:50:38.524 --> 01:50:51.629
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
01:50:52.925 --> 01:50:56.265
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, you get to look like a literal **** head.
01:50:56.860 --> 01:51:00.201
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and you get to wear a helmet to cover up your your balls.
01:51:00.221 --> 01:51:14.604
[UNKNOWN]: It looks like you get to look like one of the imperial subcommenders that Darth Vader force show first also what it looks like somewhere optical illusion like it looks like the the whole behind him like it looks like he's about to take them put on his head.
01:51:14.764 --> 01:51:17.165
[UNKNOWN]: I find your lack of head disturbing command.
01:51:17.505 --> 01:51:21.706
[UNKNOWN]: I mean I don't know what the well I'm not sure what this whole is that all these others
01:51:27.575 --> 01:51:45.629
[UNKNOWN]: It's a muck it's a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck a muck
01:51:47.672 --> 01:52:11.514
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I, I've never seen a joe so crumpled and matricistic as this year, whose self of sense worth is self-degrated in it, whose pride and dignity has been so eviscerated, a pick me joe of the highest order, a small and scavenger of approval with acceptance, a worthless wedge, who,
01:52:13.055 --> 01:52:18.980
[UNKNOWN]: He said, too, we could textualize a beach as you know, but I know when he just misgendered her.
01:52:19.160 --> 01:52:21.642
[UNKNOWN]: No, she's she's talked about the sun's day.
01:52:22.063 --> 01:52:22.943
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's great.
01:52:23.003 --> 01:52:27.987
[UNKNOWN]: Was that his attempt to to to to to no, no, no, no, no, I think he was just using they in the good.
01:52:28.047 --> 01:52:28.348
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, okay.
01:52:28.388 --> 01:52:28.688
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:52:29.609 --> 01:52:29.969
[UNKNOWN]: I work.
01:52:30.469 --> 01:52:31.390
[UNKNOWN]: I work this rat.
01:52:31.430 --> 01:52:35.854
[UNKNOWN]: She was had to recontextualize their abuse as a noble choice I've made for
01:52:41.258 --> 01:52:55.380
[UNKNOWN]: And that's before we put aside the other crap she's talking here, her ignorance of the murderous anti-Semitism that is killing Jews in Israel and around the world, and which is manufacturing coalition to too.
01:52:55.580 --> 01:52:58.921
[UNKNOWN]: I unseen, say she said, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:52:59.781 --> 01:53:00.321
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
01:53:00.561 --> 01:53:00.961
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
01:53:00.981 --> 01:53:02.642
[UNKNOWN]: So I've honestly done.
01:53:02.742 --> 01:53:03.222
[UNKNOWN]: So that.
01:53:03.322 --> 01:53:07.823
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, like, have you ever seen a Jews so crumple that says crumples
01:53:11.892 --> 01:53:19.440
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a thing with a lot of Zionists where they truly look at themselves as
01:53:22.554 --> 01:53:43.516
[UNKNOWN]: rather than what they actually look at like to the rest of us, which is just like Jewish clansmen, they look at themselves as like brave, you know, macabean warriors of ancient Israel, you know, fighting for their people and their and their personhood and their state and their kingdom and all that stuff.
01:53:43.796 --> 01:53:44.997
[UNKNOWN]: But to the rest of us,
01:53:46.318 --> 01:54:03.224
[UNKNOWN]: You just look like a clansman who's just like grasping on to this idea with all your might that yes, we are, we are better than others and we deserve more than others and anyone who, you know, goes against us is going, you know, is it.
01:54:03.904 --> 01:54:23.423
[UNKNOWN]: and who is from our tribe, anyone who is a Jew going against us is doing it because they are this weak, you know, spineless little crumpled freak, the squealing little durable, who's just like, please love me Gentiles, like that's the look that they think.
01:54:24.283 --> 01:54:26.364
[UNKNOWN]: uh uh that's what they think we all look like.
01:54:26.624 --> 01:54:36.028
[UNKNOWN]: But in truth we're just looking at people who are just wearing a cleanse hood and just uh being like, you're a god dang race traitor.
01:54:36.968 --> 01:54:38.570
[UNKNOWN]: you know, that's that's all they're doing.
01:54:38.910 --> 01:54:39.291
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:54:39.631 --> 01:54:53.506
[UNKNOWN]: And and and Robbie and and I think probably Robbie gets his goat as well because she's the true I'm not again, I don't you know her politics haven't been explicit enough for my liking, but you know she certainly hasn't said anything that's.
01:54:54.426 --> 01:54:56.147
[UNKNOWN]: raised massive alarms for me, either.
01:54:56.347 --> 01:54:58.328
[UNKNOWN]: And I get the sense that it hurts in the right place.
01:54:59.889 --> 01:55:15.078
[UNKNOWN]: But I think her cadence, her yiddish, very, a very diasporic cadence and demeanor and vibe, I think is bound to f*** design a stuff, because that's who Lee Kern could have been.
01:55:15.158 --> 01:55:21.042
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a proud tradition of yiddish kite in Britain.
01:55:21.222 --> 01:55:22.023
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
01:55:23.621 --> 01:55:24.943
[UNKNOWN]: and in England and all over.
01:55:25.543 --> 01:55:32.730
[UNKNOWN]: And so someone like Robbie, who's explicitly Jewish, couldn't be more Jewy.
01:55:32.950 --> 01:55:45.182
[UNKNOWN]: She's not just Jewish, she's Jewy, and yet her Jewiness leads her to think about her non-Jewish neighbors, before she's gonna think about how to inflate the balloon of anti-Semitism panic.
01:55:45.970 --> 01:55:49.131
[UNKNOWN]: the limp circumcised balloon of anti-Semitism panic.
01:55:49.351 --> 01:55:52.713
[UNKNOWN]: It's also not falling for the narcissism trap.
01:55:53.173 --> 01:56:02.857
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's the trap that a lot of people, it's very easy to fall for, especially post-October 7th, and I saw everywhere, I still see it everywhere with a lot of people who I once
01:56:04.157 --> 01:56:31.271
[UNKNOWN]: You know, admired people who I was once friendly with, where they were so focused on themselves and anti-Semitism is a vehicle for their own, you know, like persecution complex and their own sort of like ego tripping that they truly could not look at Palestinians problems as anything other than a quiv at best equivalence to their own, which was
01:56:32.051 --> 01:56:37.672
[UNKNOWN]: totally insane to the rest of us who have like a conscience and a sense of scale.
01:56:38.212 --> 01:56:59.256
[UNKNOWN]: So she is in that interview, she's shaking off that narcissism and just going like, yes, anti-Semitism is bad, but we're kidding ourselves and we think it's the worst thing that's happening right now, and especially when you compare it to, yes, the ice raids.
01:57:01.897 --> 01:57:03.478
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
01:57:03.538 --> 01:57:05.600
[UNKNOWN]: It might have something that's like that she grew up poor.
01:57:05.620 --> 01:57:06.100
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:57:06.120 --> 01:57:07.221
[UNKNOWN]: She grew up on welfare.
01:57:07.281 --> 01:57:07.501
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:57:07.561 --> 01:57:09.042
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, with 10 siblings.
01:57:09.123 --> 01:57:09.403
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:57:09.883 --> 01:57:18.670
[UNKNOWN]: But she, she also, it's also funny because it's like, there's so much, like, cosplay in, in Zionism.
01:57:19.330 --> 01:57:28.557
[UNKNOWN]: And the irony is that like, it's actually much more secure and butch to like feel safe enough to care about other people.
01:57:28.577 --> 01:57:28.938
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
01:57:28.978 --> 01:57:29.198
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:57:29.858 --> 01:57:54.737
[UNKNOWN]: instead of just your own like being such a whiny shit and that's what's so weird and uncomfortable for these people is that they simultaneously are like whiny bitches and also trying to project their like that they're fearless you know it's a very I think they're they're very they're insides or you know there's a bunch of mishogascans right in there yeah well it's very WWE sort of villain coded like
01:57:55.417 --> 01:58:19.658
[UNKNOWN]: Like a good wrestling federation would come up with a villain who's like the most macho, confident talking, smack talking, whatever, but is the most precious little, pretty, polypricy pants, you know, and, you know, gets there and can't stop listing off the, the, the, the litany of crimes against them, you know, and it's a, it's an excellent character.
01:58:20.158 --> 01:58:21.740
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is, yeah, it's called crumple crumples.
01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:35.358
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple crumple cr
01:58:35.600 --> 01:58:39.704
[UNKNOWN]: There was, yeah, what's going to do it breaking news to me.
01:58:42.387 --> 01:58:52.678
[UNKNOWN]: What happens when you're me and you don't actually fully, no, I didn't know until we were, I was okay, I just learned about stuff and I go, all right, well, breaking news.
01:58:53.519 --> 01:58:59.647
[UNKNOWN]: Why has she allowed 40 million dollars of outside spending the bulk of it coming from apathy Really appealing come into this race.
01:58:59.787 --> 01:59:03.031
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's going to be hard to admit that to now Who is attacking her to actually attack her?
01:59:03.091 --> 01:59:04.533
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's a lot of things
01:59:07.249 --> 01:59:08.630
[UNKNOWN]: kind of towed coated bro.
01:59:09.490 --> 01:59:10.751
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
01:59:11.031 --> 01:59:11.952
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mean to do that.
01:59:12.012 --> 01:59:14.013
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like being an apparent person.
01:59:14.053 --> 01:59:16.434
[UNKNOWN]: But now who is attacking her to actually attack her.
01:59:16.494 --> 01:59:22.958
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's attacking her to try and steer away the stink of how staunchly she stands for their policy.
01:59:23.298 --> 01:59:26.140
[UNKNOWN]: So let's take that opportunity explain what you've given away.
01:59:26.480 --> 01:59:27.561
[UNKNOWN]: There wasn't a duck face.
01:59:27.581 --> 01:59:28.301
[UNKNOWN]: That was like a platypus.
01:59:28.361 --> 01:59:28.922
[UNKNOWN]: It was like a platypus.
01:59:28.942 --> 01:59:29.642
[UNKNOWN]: It was like a platypus.
01:59:29.662 --> 01:59:31.043
[UNKNOWN]: It was like a platypus.
01:59:31.323 --> 01:59:34.006
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know about Black right now.
01:59:34.807 --> 01:59:35.327
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:59:35.367 --> 01:59:36.008
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:59:36.068 --> 01:59:37.149
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:59:37.630 --> 01:59:38.671
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
01:59:39.111 --> 01:59:40.512
[UNKNOWN]: No one owns my vote.
01:59:40.753 --> 01:59:42.354
[UNKNOWN]: And no one owns my policies.
01:59:42.795 --> 01:59:49.742
[UNKNOWN]: Anyone who is going to be to my Senate campaign is doing so because of my proven record of fighting for Michigan.
01:59:50.102 --> 02:00:01.866
[UNKNOWN]: What I did when I served as chief of staff on the U.S. auto rescue saving 200,000 Michigan jobs and what I have done to get the chips and science act passed and signed into law.
02:00:02.166 --> 02:00:12.149
[UNKNOWN]: What my opponent needs to answer is why is the GOP spending thousands of dollars to prop up his campaign saying that he will make my graduates the next U.S.
02:00:12.189 --> 02:00:12.589
[UNKNOWN]: Senator?
02:00:14.890 --> 02:00:17.191
[UNKNOWN]: And they think we're very close to Republicans.
02:00:17.211 --> 02:00:25.195
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, probably for the same reason that, you know, the Democratic Party push so hard to get Trump to be the Republican nominee.
02:00:25.475 --> 02:00:27.116
[UNKNOWN]: It's called the Pied Piper stretch.
02:00:27.136 --> 02:00:38.802
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's called listening to the exact same advisors and consultant class that got us in the situation we are in now, and maybe we should stop listening to them.
02:00:38.822 --> 02:00:41.403
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what people are realizing, and that's why good luck.
02:00:42.267 --> 02:00:44.469
[UNKNOWN]: We got another clip.
02:00:44.709 --> 02:00:45.289
[UNKNOWN]: I love clips.
02:00:45.670 --> 02:00:52.075
[UNKNOWN]: By organizations like the Center for Democratic Priorities, which, by the way, didn't exist until it started to run ads for my opponent.
02:00:52.475 --> 02:00:56.538
[UNKNOWN]: Like the United Democratic Progressives, which, by the way, is a front-frame.
02:00:56.558 --> 02:01:02.703
[UNKNOWN]: A front-frame which bought airline tickets for my opponent for her mother and herself to go to Portugal.
02:01:02.723 --> 02:01:04.524
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what they talked about, I don't know what they did.
02:01:04.865 --> 02:01:08.948
[UNKNOWN]: So if we want to talk about lies, I think it's really important for us to understand who's paying for them.
02:01:09.048 --> 02:01:11.450
[UNKNOWN]: And what was set on the back end to allow them to be told,
02:01:12.030 --> 02:01:13.431
[UNKNOWN]: and dollars just it doesn't come for free.
02:01:13.651 --> 02:01:29.822
[UNKNOWN]: Wait you guys I'm you know what I just realized that whole thing was a set up I think the the I'm not even doing like a funny huh I really because I just look for for this on Twitter I was looking for something on Twitter and near a tandem oh yeah okay so near a
02:01:31.383 --> 02:01:32.925
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, this is interesting.
02:01:33.365 --> 02:01:33.665
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:01:33.685 --> 02:01:34.666
[UNKNOWN]: This is very interesting.
02:01:34.786 --> 02:01:35.047
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:01:35.407 --> 02:01:37.229
[UNKNOWN]: Who's Andrew Bates and see.
02:01:37.249 --> 02:01:38.170
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:01:38.230 --> 02:01:39.251
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know who he is.
02:01:39.511 --> 02:01:42.634
[UNKNOWN]: But he tweeted out that clip that we just saw.
02:01:55.167 --> 02:01:57.229
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I know what we're going with this.
02:01:57.650 --> 02:02:01.032
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so what happens is near-tand and clips this clip, right?
02:02:01.132 --> 02:02:09.780
[UNKNOWN]: Now, we just thought it was funny because it was like, oh, imagine what it would look like if like down a bash we're honest and had integrity and it was like, actually this person is not an anti-semit, okay?
02:02:10.020 --> 02:02:13.082
[UNKNOWN]: But she means, no, this person is not an anti-semit.
02:02:13.483 --> 02:02:15.965
[UNKNOWN]: Here, Netanyahu won't fully will lose his jab.
02:02:16.465 --> 02:02:23.008
[UNKNOWN]: Here attacks Haley for Michigan for staying the Abius fact that Netanyahu is making Jews in America in the world.
02:02:23.028 --> 02:02:23.588
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see.
02:02:23.648 --> 02:02:24.348
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, baby.
02:02:24.369 --> 02:02:24.829
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:02:24.929 --> 02:02:27.770
[UNKNOWN]: Get your money back for that photo ops that you took with him.
02:02:27.910 --> 02:02:28.150
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:02:28.530 --> 02:02:31.532
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and this is she quotes that the the clip that we just saw.
02:02:31.552 --> 02:02:31.652
[UNKNOWN]: So.
02:02:32.677 --> 02:02:39.223
[UNKNOWN]: Coincidentally, someone's going to accuse me of faking it because I have two things in a row, but that's just no, that's kind of Twitter works.
02:02:39.563 --> 02:02:49.733
[UNKNOWN]: So a son rates given that Haley Stevens brought this attack up twice on the bait stage, even though she's gotten 34 million from a pack and other packs and beginning to suspect this moment was coordinate.
02:02:49.753 --> 02:02:50.594
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, absolutely.
02:02:50.634 --> 02:02:51.375
[UNKNOWN]: Very good.
02:02:51.435 --> 02:02:53.817
[UNKNOWN]: And then Adam Johnson, friend of the shows.
02:02:54.277 --> 02:02:56.519
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Siri pull up the fakeest thing about time.
02:02:56.539 --> 02:02:57.120
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.
02:02:57.200 --> 02:02:58.301
[UNKNOWN]: So that's what that was.
02:02:58.381 --> 02:03:00.582
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's that's 100% correct.
02:03:00.682 --> 02:03:00.923
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:03:00.963 --> 02:03:06.166
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and this is what we've been this is what we've been tracking and predicting that like I was saying on the last episode.
02:03:06.386 --> 02:03:13.891
[UNKNOWN]: I said that yes, that it's now it's gonna this is I had a question actually for for the APAC trackers that we didn't get to which is like,
02:03:27.197 --> 02:03:32.961
[UNKNOWN]: how to sound confrontational and every serial on his real without being that at all.
02:03:33.041 --> 02:03:33.981
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, exactly.
02:03:34.242 --> 02:03:34.562
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
02:03:34.702 --> 02:03:36.963
[UNKNOWN]: We in real time just discovered something.
02:03:37.264 --> 02:03:37.464
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:03:37.564 --> 02:03:38.785
[UNKNOWN]: Now on the one hand,
02:03:39.981 --> 02:03:40.422
[UNKNOWN]: my life.
02:03:40.782 --> 02:03:42.364
[UNKNOWN]: On the other hand, Hallelujah.
02:03:42.384 --> 02:03:43.085
[UNKNOWN]: Joy to the world.
02:03:43.125 --> 02:03:43.906
[UNKNOWN]: Look where we're at.
02:03:44.166 --> 02:03:45.908
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's Hallelujah, but now we have to.
02:03:45.948 --> 02:03:49.733
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's a sign of victory, but we also have to look what they need to do now.
02:03:49.753 --> 02:03:49.973
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:03:50.333 --> 02:03:58.163
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, what else, another thing that we need to stay tuned for is that ramen manual here, Brad, can we take a look at this?
02:03:58.663 --> 02:04:01.465
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes, I've been wanting to watch this.
02:04:01.625 --> 02:04:02.846
[UNKNOWN]: I have it saved.
02:04:02.886 --> 02:04:08.809
[UNKNOWN]: This is Roman manual, a Tel Aviv university talking about what he's not, is he there yet?
02:04:09.069 --> 02:04:10.410
[UNKNOWN]: He's he's going to tell it.
02:04:10.450 --> 02:04:11.611
[UNKNOWN]: He's giving us a preview.
02:04:11.631 --> 02:04:13.092
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, tomorrow and not here.
02:04:13.132 --> 02:04:14.973
[UNKNOWN]: He's doing a trailer for him.
02:04:15.113 --> 02:04:19.615
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he had Tel Aviv University about the future of Israel in the Democratic Party.
02:04:19.875 --> 02:04:25.239
[UNKNOWN]: And it'll be very interesting to see how they, uh, how they thread this has bar and needle,
02:04:28.808 --> 02:04:32.870
[UNKNOWN]: Tomorrow at 930 AM ET at Tel Aviv University.
02:04:32.930 --> 02:04:36.673
[UNKNOWN]: I'll lay out where I believe the U.S. is real relationship here.
02:04:36.813 --> 02:04:39.014
[UNKNOWN]: That's in tabay time.
02:04:39.554 --> 02:04:44.717
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't come to flat or anyone I came because real friends tell each other her truth and tomorrow I will stay tuned.
02:04:44.777 --> 02:04:45.738
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so now let's play it.
02:04:45.978 --> 02:04:47.639
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, great, great stuff.
02:04:47.659 --> 02:04:49.520
[UNKNOWN]: Let's play that again, this isn't this speech.
02:04:50.000 --> 02:04:52.282
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be addressing the U.S. is real alliance.
02:04:52.942 --> 02:04:54.343
[UNKNOWN]: Where it is and where it must go.
02:04:55.349 --> 02:04:57.772
[UNKNOWN]: Prime Minister Netanyahu has led his role.
02:04:58.032 --> 02:05:00.356
[UNKNOWN]: The US is all alliance into a dead end.
02:05:00.616 --> 02:05:01.477
[UNKNOWN]: It's at a tipping point.
02:05:02.218 --> 02:05:04.361
[UNKNOWN]: The status quo is no longer sustainable.
02:05:04.921 --> 02:05:09.828
[UNKNOWN]: We need a path for Palestinian self-determination and sovereignty and a path for Israel's security.
02:05:09.908 --> 02:05:10.168
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
02:05:10.449 --> 02:05:11.730
[UNKNOWN]: I have a lot of ideas.
02:05:11.750 --> 02:05:13.533
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's this young whippersnaid process.
02:05:13.993 --> 02:05:19.558
[UNKNOWN]: economic integration and making sure that this region, the mid-East, is more stable and more secure.
02:05:19.578 --> 02:05:20.879
[UNKNOWN]: You have to start saying what stage you have.
02:05:20.899 --> 02:05:23.061
[UNKNOWN]: You want to see like a Wokean.
02:05:23.081 --> 02:05:23.862
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, baby.
02:05:24.102 --> 02:05:24.603
[UNKNOWN]: Andy.
02:05:24.823 --> 02:05:25.223
[UNKNOWN]: Manna.
02:05:25.263 --> 02:05:25.784
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, you got to.
02:05:25.804 --> 02:05:27.545
[UNKNOWN]: He's got to call it right in you the speech.
02:05:27.986 --> 02:05:28.586
[UNKNOWN]: So you can read it.
02:05:29.087 --> 02:05:33.070
[UNKNOWN]: The opportunity to link and watch the speech in the questions at the university.
02:05:33.531 --> 02:05:35.693
[UNKNOWN]: And a direction that also knows and recognizes.
02:05:36.253 --> 02:05:37.695
[UNKNOWN]: What we're doing today is not working.
02:05:37.735 --> 02:05:38.616
[UNKNOWN]: What are we doing today?
02:05:38.696 --> 02:05:42.161
[UNKNOWN]: Leadership and the idea isn't Christenly to change.
02:05:42.181 --> 02:05:47.288
[UNKNOWN]: Suddenly, these f***ing low layers is sustainable with the Prime Minister has done for the Alliance.
02:05:48.073 --> 02:05:53.817
[UNKNOWN]: We need what's the alliance new requirements you'll tell me about that alliance though I think you know what this is.
02:05:53.977 --> 02:05:54.958
[UNKNOWN]: I love an alloy.
02:05:54.978 --> 02:05:55.619
[UNKNOWN]: Let's send ready.
02:05:55.779 --> 02:05:59.101
[UNKNOWN]: We'll alloy exactly because they're doing this merger Bell.
02:05:59.221 --> 02:06:03.784
[UNKNOWN]: I think yes Dennis Cassinnitch was just on Tucker Carlson talking about this.
02:06:04.065 --> 02:06:14.993
[UNKNOWN]: He was on the Katie Howard for show For four years That's you know what give me your Wow Katie Joe deals by association But he was on like today.
02:06:15.033 --> 02:06:15.373
[UNKNOWN]: I'm saying
02:06:16.133 --> 02:06:17.273
[UNKNOWN]: He was on my show Friday.
02:06:17.493 --> 02:06:17.953
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, really?
02:06:18.114 --> 02:06:18.494
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:06:18.814 --> 02:06:20.454
[UNKNOWN]: I, as the Katie, how about show Bump?
02:06:20.474 --> 02:06:21.814
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think I'm on to talk about?
02:06:21.854 --> 02:06:23.295
[UNKNOWN]: No, but we got to get this thing.
02:06:23.375 --> 02:06:24.715
[UNKNOWN]: We got to get this thing.
02:06:25.055 --> 02:06:26.236
[UNKNOWN]: We got to get Cassina's for sure.
02:06:26.536 --> 02:06:27.936
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'll let you want me in.
02:06:28.996 --> 02:06:30.597
[UNKNOWN]: No, we're too stupid.
02:06:30.857 --> 02:06:32.257
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yes, sorry, you're right.
02:06:32.377 --> 02:06:33.037
[UNKNOWN]: Don't listen to me.
02:06:33.197 --> 02:06:33.978
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:06:33.998 --> 02:06:35.678
[UNKNOWN]: But listen, listen, ready.
02:06:36.118 --> 02:06:38.759
[UNKNOWN]: So they are trying to do this thing.
02:06:38.959 --> 02:06:42.880
[UNKNOWN]: I was actually just talking to Nate about this earlier that the merger,
02:06:43.912 --> 02:06:50.638
[UNKNOWN]: They're trying to do this merger and this talking point is like, even Laura Lumer, she's, well, Laura Lumer is it totally insane.
02:06:50.658 --> 02:06:58.865
[UNKNOWN]: She's like, we need to cut like, like, the United States needs to stop holding Israel back, like, let's sever the relationship, you know, because we're such a restraining force.
02:07:00.246 --> 02:07:09.331
[UNKNOWN]: But, but the thing is that they are trying to say, like, Nanyahu talked about this in an interview with, what's his name, Sergeant Garrett, major, major Garrett.
02:07:09.351 --> 02:07:12.253
[UNKNOWN]: I was confused, like, what position is Colonel Garrett, Major Garrett?
02:07:12.573 --> 02:07:16.475
[UNKNOWN]: He said something about a partnership and, like, not paying for weapons anymore.
02:07:16.835 --> 02:07:21.918
[UNKNOWN]: And I think this is a way for people to pretend to be America first, right?
02:07:21.938 --> 02:07:22.759
[UNKNOWN]: Like, we're not going to,
02:07:23.858 --> 02:07:25.900
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, am I doing it backwards?
02:07:25.960 --> 02:07:35.027
[UNKNOWN]: Basically, they want it to be a partnership instead of, I need you want, do you want a little extra time to do your book report?
02:07:35.047 --> 02:07:36.868
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to put it in, do you want to hand it in?
02:07:36.908 --> 02:07:44.434
[UNKNOWN]: I think I just, I just contradicted myself because I thought that there would be way, no, no, they're trying to do, we're on.
02:07:44.734 --> 02:07:47.877
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to think of all the time.
02:07:50.545 --> 02:07:53.486
[UNKNOWN]: All right, must have been a new one.
02:07:54.467 --> 02:07:56.467
[UNKNOWN]: They're partner, not clients.
02:07:56.527 --> 02:08:01.049
[UNKNOWN]: So they're trying to say that they, it's a little contradictory, right?
02:08:01.129 --> 02:08:09.253
[UNKNOWN]: But that's the kind of the point because there's so much of your occasion, but one of the new talking points is that we should be selling them weapons, not giving them weapons.
02:08:09.593 --> 02:08:09.933
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:08:11.110 --> 02:08:14.151
[UNKNOWN]: And but is that going to be consistent with the partnership?
02:08:14.211 --> 02:08:17.211
[UNKNOWN]: I wonder the merrier the let's be clear about what this merger is.
02:08:17.231 --> 02:08:20.832
[UNKNOWN]: Because I was shocked when I heard Houston is described.
02:08:21.192 --> 02:08:21.792
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:08:22.033 --> 02:08:23.233
[UNKNOWN]: Tell us it.
02:08:24.053 --> 02:08:31.515
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I know it's like entire it will you actually like you did because, you know, you spoke to the guy, but from what I understood correct me wrong.
02:08:31.535 --> 02:08:32.715
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're talking about.
02:08:33.826 --> 02:08:51.415
[UNKNOWN]: merging the two armies, the two militaries, complete intelligence sharing, Israel has discretion over appropriations over, you know, over the U.S. is trillion now dollar war budget and complete in total coordination.
02:08:52.275 --> 02:08:53.036
[UNKNOWN]: Am I right about this?
02:08:53.536 --> 02:08:54.536
[UNKNOWN]: Like how far does it go?
02:08:54.836 --> 02:08:55.817
[UNKNOWN]: Is there any limit on it?
02:08:56.634 --> 02:09:12.648
[UNKNOWN]: There's no duplication, which was something that he said, and I asked him about what exactly made this new, because there is a lot of mergers that already exist, but I think there's like, we'll be even less oversight.
02:09:13.108 --> 02:09:15.911
[UNKNOWN]: And the big thing that he was very scared of is the biotech stuff.
02:09:16.191 --> 02:09:16.972
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, for sure.
02:09:17.272 --> 02:09:21.094
[UNKNOWN]: And it's also folded into a thousand page bill.
02:09:21.174 --> 02:09:22.395
[UNKNOWN]: It's another one of these mega bills.
02:09:22.435 --> 02:09:23.436
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just in there somewhere.
02:09:23.816 --> 02:09:24.916
[UNKNOWN]: And they changed the rules.
02:09:25.177 --> 02:09:26.097
[UNKNOWN]: So it's just up or down.
02:09:26.157 --> 02:09:27.038
[UNKNOWN]: There's no committee.
02:09:27.058 --> 02:09:28.239
[UNKNOWN]: There's no points of order.
02:09:28.259 --> 02:09:33.041
[UNKNOWN]: There's no, you know, subcommittees, nothing like they're really ramming it through.
02:09:33.202 --> 02:09:33.462
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:09:34.502 --> 02:09:42.544
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, from what I can tell, and you know, of course, know everything about it, I'm just letting you guys talk and say all the things.
02:09:42.784 --> 02:09:49.566
[UNKNOWN]: From what I understand, it just makes explicit what was at this point fundamentally implicit.
02:09:51.706 --> 02:09:54.587
[UNKNOWN]: It does do concrete things as well, but.
02:09:55.790 --> 02:10:01.416
[UNKNOWN]: At this point, there's no more daylight now in once this bill is passed, which I believe has been passed.
02:10:01.496 --> 02:10:02.297
[UNKNOWN]: Am I wrong about that?
02:10:02.357 --> 02:10:03.298
[UNKNOWN]: No, it hasn't been passed.
02:10:03.358 --> 02:10:04.319
[UNKNOWN]: Has not been passed yet.
02:10:04.339 --> 02:10:04.800
[UNKNOWN]: They have not been.
02:10:04.820 --> 02:10:06.181
[UNKNOWN]: The Congress is out for R&D until the 13th.
02:10:06.201 --> 02:10:08.224
[UNKNOWN]: The national defense, something something, Bill, with authorization, authorization, yeah.
02:10:08.244 --> 02:10:16.092
[UNKNOWN]: And, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
02:10:16.212 --> 02:10:27.882
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just a, it ends the day light between the United States and and Israel's militaries, which, you know, there's it's a terrible thing, of course.
02:10:28.562 --> 02:10:40.432
[UNKNOWN]: It is also just making something explicit, which at this point has been fairly implied for a long time in terms of the the way in which the United States and.
02:10:41.413 --> 02:10:44.535
[UNKNOWN]: Israel's military industrial complex is seem to be one and the same.
02:10:44.795 --> 02:10:49.477
[UNKNOWN]: And so it much in the way that Trump just says the quiet part out loud.
02:10:49.517 --> 02:10:52.199
[UNKNOWN]: It is the bill seems to me to be the quiet part out loud.
02:10:52.239 --> 02:11:04.605
[UNKNOWN]: That's what it seems, you know, but of course, when written into law, it makes trying to remove those, you know, those hooks between the United States and Israel.
02:11:04.825 --> 02:11:05.565
[UNKNOWN]: It makes it all the
02:11:09.248 --> 02:11:11.626
[UNKNOWN]: I think that it's a really frightening part of it.
02:11:12.616 --> 02:11:19.940
[UNKNOWN]: And if they want to do it out loud, they should open the books, let their constituents know they're doing this and let the American people have their say, they're doing the quiet part out loud, very quiet.
02:11:20.020 --> 02:11:21.260
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure.
02:11:21.320 --> 02:11:21.900
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:11:21.920 --> 02:11:27.163
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, I'm going to show some, we have some shorts from this because we Patreon some of this.
02:11:27.383 --> 02:11:41.250
[UNKNOWN]: This is actually a good way to tease that Patreon, but we, if you watch it live, you're in luck because you've got to see this entire thing with Dennis, but actually here, Brad, I'm going to, I'm going to send you right now
02:11:42.210 --> 02:11:44.711
[UNKNOWN]: some a little shorts from cream yard.
02:11:45.191 --> 02:11:46.991
[UNKNOWN]: Just real, just real quick, Katie.
02:11:47.091 --> 02:11:48.751
[UNKNOWN]: I have about eight more minutes than I got it.
02:11:48.911 --> 02:11:50.392
[UNKNOWN]: Then I got to put my daughter down.
02:11:50.852 --> 02:11:55.833
[UNKNOWN]: All right, you know what, then I won't, I won't use you as a bouncing, like a, what's the expression?
02:11:56.053 --> 02:11:56.633
[UNKNOWN]: Sounding board.
02:11:56.893 --> 02:12:00.074
[UNKNOWN]: Sounding board for Dennis, because then it's always a sound board.
02:12:00.834 --> 02:12:03.354
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, crazy dudes.
02:12:03.754 --> 02:12:06.115
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I'm singing on this show.
02:12:06.235 --> 02:12:07.215
[UNKNOWN]: You're emotionally down.
02:12:07.935 --> 02:12:08.395
[UNKNOWN]: How about this?
02:12:08.455 --> 02:12:11.716
[UNKNOWN]: Why don't you after Matt goes Daniel with him off some of these shorts?
02:12:12.296 --> 02:12:14.836
[UNKNOWN]: You'll be like, you'll be like this in the short line.
02:12:14.856 --> 02:12:17.577
[UNKNOWN]: Really great.
02:12:17.617 --> 02:12:19.317
[UNKNOWN]: It was just like, oh, I'm sorry.
02:12:19.517 --> 02:12:22.518
[UNKNOWN]: I have to leave an eight minute suit because I don't want to be on anymore.
02:12:24.118 --> 02:12:27.278
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because I want to accompany Matt.
02:12:29.779 --> 02:12:33.139
[UNKNOWN]: I'm usually the Matt Matt usually face times me and so I can read his daughter a bit.
02:12:33.239 --> 02:12:33.739
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
02:12:33.759 --> 02:12:34.039
[UNKNOWN]: It's true.
02:12:34.079 --> 02:12:35.060
[UNKNOWN]: It may prefers my voice.
02:12:35.160 --> 02:12:36.640
[UNKNOWN]: Your voice is nicer though.
02:12:37.655 --> 02:12:38.615
[UNKNOWN]: It is a good night.
02:12:38.915 --> 02:12:39.735
[UNKNOWN]: Good night, moon.
02:12:39.855 --> 02:12:40.756
[UNKNOWN]: Have you ever heard of him?
02:12:40.936 --> 02:12:42.136
[UNKNOWN]: Good night, spoon.
02:12:42.496 --> 02:12:44.936
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's way, but I'm getting horny.
02:12:46.077 --> 02:12:49.497
[UNKNOWN]: Good night, cow that jumped over the moon.
02:12:49.637 --> 02:12:51.078
[UNKNOWN]: Do you really breathe kids books?
02:12:51.458 --> 02:12:52.918
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody could look.
02:12:52.978 --> 02:12:53.358
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it could.
02:12:53.378 --> 02:12:53.538
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:12:53.738 --> 02:12:54.798
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:12:54.858 --> 02:12:58.399
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Matt in the in the six second six minutes, you have last.
02:12:58.479 --> 02:12:59.719
[UNKNOWN]: What would you like to talk about?
02:13:00.119 --> 02:13:02.400
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, there's a lot of things.
02:13:02.900 --> 02:13:03.680
[UNKNOWN]: We're going.
02:13:04.508 --> 02:13:11.058
[UNKNOWN]: You want to talk about what's happening at the ice house in Pasadena, in the center.
02:13:11.779 --> 02:13:14.203
[UNKNOWN]: I like how she asked me what I want to talk about in the left.
02:13:14.464 --> 02:13:15.085
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, a dog.
02:13:15.877 --> 02:13:17.157
[UNKNOWN]: Um, want to break my baby.
02:13:17.638 --> 02:13:19.198
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I think you're the only one with a baby.
02:13:19.618 --> 02:13:20.759
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we'll talk about the baby.
02:13:20.799 --> 02:13:21.579
[UNKNOWN]: We all got babies.
02:13:21.899 --> 02:13:22.739
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I like it.
02:13:22.919 --> 02:13:27.621
[UNKNOWN]: One thing I want to talk about is how I will be at the ice house in Pasadena on July 11th.
02:13:27.661 --> 02:13:29.182
[UNKNOWN]: That's the Saturday at APM.
02:13:29.302 --> 02:13:31.782
[UNKNOWN]: My birthday happy birthday, Katie.
02:13:31.922 --> 02:13:32.743
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know that.
02:13:32.903 --> 02:13:33.363
[UNKNOWN]: 11, baby.
02:13:33.523 --> 02:13:35.384
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 7, 11.
02:13:35.644 --> 02:13:37.984
[UNKNOWN]: That's a, that's an, that really is an awesome birthday.
02:13:38.185 --> 02:13:39.025
[UNKNOWN]: What a cute dog.
02:13:39.045 --> 02:13:39.525
[UNKNOWN]: I really want.
02:13:40.505 --> 02:13:41.186
[UNKNOWN]: I want a kiss.
02:13:41.226 --> 02:13:41.806
[UNKNOWN]: That dog.
02:13:42.306 --> 02:13:44.307
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I bring body, but she's not with me right now.
02:13:45.691 --> 02:13:54.823
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but yeah, so if you are someone who is in the L.A. area, Pasadena area come to the ice house on July 11th, 8pm, it's going to be really fun.
02:13:55.323 --> 02:14:02.973
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, what's the last thing the last thing I could talk about before I have to leave in six minutes is I guess I could talk about how much how cute your dog is.
02:14:03.532 --> 02:14:04.453
[UNKNOWN]: I'm really curious.
02:14:05.074 --> 02:14:07.797
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, let's show my, let's show the campaign ad that just dropped.
02:14:07.817 --> 02:14:09.399
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, show me some of the campaign.
02:14:09.700 --> 02:14:13.144
[UNKNOWN]: Helly, helly Stevens campaign merch.
02:14:13.424 --> 02:14:14.545
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, she got new merch.
02:14:15.106 --> 02:14:16.147
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's take a look at this.
02:14:16.187 --> 02:14:18.010
[UNKNOWN]: Finally new merch merch drop.
02:14:19.054 --> 02:14:24.275
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, I made that that took me way too long.
02:14:24.975 --> 02:14:32.357
[UNKNOWN]: And for people who can't can't see it, it says, Haley Stevens, first U.S. and an I dream of not Jeannie B.
02:14:32.397 --> 02:14:33.057
[UNKNOWN]: Very good.
02:14:33.077 --> 02:14:34.018
[UNKNOWN]: I did a pretty good job.
02:14:34.058 --> 02:14:34.578
[UNKNOWN]: I like it.
02:14:34.758 --> 02:14:36.918
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, that, you know, I did a call.
02:14:37.198 --> 02:14:38.018
[UNKNOWN]: I used Canva.
02:14:38.058 --> 02:14:40.039
[UNKNOWN]: Canva, you really should pay for for.
02:14:40.519 --> 02:14:41.160
[UNKNOWN]: Canva.
02:14:41.320 --> 02:14:42.200
[UNKNOWN]: It really is good.
02:14:42.281 --> 02:14:47.545
[UNKNOWN]: I really hope it's not Israeli because I really canva.
02:14:47.585 --> 02:14:48.245
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's the thing.
02:14:48.285 --> 02:14:57.713
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, why don't stream you out right now, because Riverside, you know, for those of you who are sad isn't very good for video, Riverside's not great for video, but it is also is an Israeli company.
02:14:57.853 --> 02:15:02.097
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't from the Riverside to the seaside, we don't want to be supporting G-side.
02:15:02.756 --> 02:15:03.877
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so that's good.
02:15:04.037 --> 02:15:19.369
[UNKNOWN]: Actually we should be paid by stream yard because we're being how we're they're getting pretty good not so enthusiastic low bar endorsements like use stream yard colon not genocide all right.
02:15:19.589 --> 02:15:23.753
[UNKNOWN]: It's not Israeli not directly genocide Stream yard.
02:15:23.793 --> 02:15:30.338
[UNKNOWN]: It's not Israeli but enough for me even though we have a random error every other recording
02:15:30.638 --> 02:15:32.879
[UNKNOWN]: someone roll candy and yiddish is crazy.
02:15:32.899 --> 02:15:33.500
[UNKNOWN]: Is that true?
02:15:33.960 --> 02:15:34.940
[UNKNOWN]: What's can be in Yiddish?
02:15:35.761 --> 02:15:36.541
[UNKNOWN]: The word canva?
02:15:36.922 --> 02:15:37.042
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:15:37.062 --> 02:15:37.522
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:15:38.422 --> 02:15:39.043
[UNKNOWN]: He's can't.
02:15:39.163 --> 02:15:39.803
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that's true.
02:15:39.823 --> 02:15:40.203
[UNKNOWN]: That's true.
02:15:40.223 --> 02:15:40.544
[UNKNOWN]: That's true.
02:15:40.564 --> 02:15:40.844
[UNKNOWN]: That's true.
02:15:40.864 --> 02:15:41.244
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure.
02:15:41.564 --> 02:15:42.045
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
02:15:42.665 --> 02:15:46.147
[UNKNOWN]: I guess, oh, they could be saying canva is at, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:15:46.582 --> 02:15:51.304
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, someone asked where I when you use can the on a Yiddish computer, maybe it does crazy thing.
02:15:51.364 --> 02:15:51.744
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:15:52.184 --> 02:15:54.905
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, camping Yiddish is crazy.
02:15:54.925 --> 02:16:03.188
[UNKNOWN]: But I, that seems unlikely to me, it creates all these, I don't know why this is why I don't read comments.
02:16:04.316 --> 02:16:06.938
[UNKNOWN]: I don't read comments because I don't want to parse what they mean.
02:16:07.458 --> 02:16:10.140
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I guess you have to lie on both shows, Matt.
02:16:10.160 --> 02:16:14.242
[UNKNOWN]: Like, like, like, I'm just supposed to sit here and act like you don't read them.
02:16:14.282 --> 02:16:16.243
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, you don't respond to comments.
02:16:16.263 --> 02:16:19.425
[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes I relax your ears that you never argue with hogs.
02:16:19.765 --> 02:16:21.807
[UNKNOWN]: You just go and you have a big, like, the bait.
02:16:21.867 --> 02:16:22.347
[UNKNOWN]: The hogs.
02:16:22.367 --> 02:16:22.967
[UNKNOWN]: The bait.
02:16:22.987 --> 02:16:24.088
[UNKNOWN]: We call all our listeners hogs.
02:16:24.128 --> 02:16:24.548
[UNKNOWN]: Not yours.
02:16:24.989 --> 02:16:25.769
[UNKNOWN]: Yours are not hogs.
02:16:25.929 --> 02:16:26.449
[UNKNOWN]: Everyone's hurt.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're all hogs.
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[UNKNOWN]: Wait, oh, you do.
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[UNKNOWN]: I heard you talk about slot.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the slot.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're all hot.
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[UNKNOWN]: But Brad says that comments are like the sun never looked directly at them.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I try not.
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[UNKNOWN]: So some interesting sons in your comments here, including a couple of super one, super chats.
02:16:43.198 --> 02:16:52.823
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I'm just using views on on race and Islam and yeah, I saw super chat that was Islamophobic, which I was like, man, that's crazy.
02:16:52.843 --> 02:16:54.824
[UNKNOWN]: It's been five dollars to do race.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:16:56.565 --> 02:16:57.826
[UNKNOWN]: You can do that for free at it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, anyways, guys, Katie, thank you for having me on.
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[UNKNOWN]: I really.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for coming.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:17:04.689 --> 02:17:05.689
[UNKNOWN]: I, I really do love.
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[UNKNOWN]: I like when I almost figured out that that I almost unraveled a big conspiracy, but then I got it backwards, but let's, uh, you, you have a good night, Matt, you have fun with your kid.
02:17:16.274 --> 02:17:19.856
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to, I'm going to show people some of the reasons they should become patrons.
02:17:19.896 --> 02:17:20.156
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
02:17:20.176 --> 02:17:22.537
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to show people some of the reasons they should become patrons.
02:17:22.557 --> 02:17:22.777
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
02:17:22.817 --> 02:17:24.818
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be able to see the full, uh, Samira Moya Hadine response.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Before we go, let's be speaking of Jesse Brown.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just wanted to say.
02:17:29.674 --> 02:17:35.238
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if we should send out an APB because Motherfucker hasn't tweeted literally in nine days.
02:17:35.258 --> 02:17:35.739
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
02:17:35.839 --> 02:17:42.503
[UNKNOWN]: And then he posted the supposedly, take down to sparaging clip of me saying, yeah, I've got contempt.
02:17:42.744 --> 02:17:43.004
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:17:43.044 --> 02:17:43.464
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:17:43.484 --> 02:17:45.686
[UNKNOWN]: Like he literally, like that's not there.
02:17:45.986 --> 02:17:46.607
[UNKNOWN]: There it is.
02:17:46.647 --> 02:17:47.207
[UNKNOWN]: There it is.
02:17:47.487 --> 02:17:48.008
[UNKNOWN]: On there.
02:17:48.148 --> 02:17:48.988
[UNKNOWN]: It's down.
02:17:49.008 --> 02:17:49.569
[UNKNOWN]: There it is.
02:17:49.689 --> 02:17:50.049
[UNKNOWN]: Damn.
02:17:50.089 --> 02:17:52.651
[UNKNOWN]: There's two ways to lose the debate online.
02:17:52.671 --> 02:17:55.393
[UNKNOWN]: He, the Jew and Canada, so how safe can he actually be?
02:17:55.433 --> 02:17:58.334
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, maybe he's hiding, Dan, only everything about that.
02:17:58.975 --> 02:18:00.456
[UNKNOWN]: Um, you just blew his cover.
02:18:00.956 --> 02:18:02.056
[UNKNOWN]: Now he has to relocate.
02:18:02.356 --> 02:18:03.897
[UNKNOWN]: There's two ways to lose the debate online.
02:18:04.037 --> 02:18:06.338
[UNKNOWN]: One is to constantly keep posting about how you won.
02:18:06.418 --> 02:18:09.060
[UNKNOWN]: The other is to never show your face online ever again.
02:18:09.793 --> 02:18:15.475
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Matt, you and I have this Jesse Brown connection where we both made these jokes that he took for dual challenge.
02:18:15.495 --> 02:18:15.775
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:18:16.055 --> 02:18:16.295
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
02:18:16.896 --> 02:18:17.876
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot about that.
02:18:17.916 --> 02:18:18.176
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:18:18.236 --> 02:18:19.277
[UNKNOWN]: That happened to you, too.
02:18:19.637 --> 02:18:22.098
[UNKNOWN]: And that's, and that's how we ended up talking to me.
02:18:22.158 --> 02:18:24.579
[UNKNOWN]: I think kind of accidentally and I think you probably read it.
02:18:24.799 --> 02:18:32.081
[UNKNOWN]: Well, look, he's not the first Toronto would be bar spitter to lose, uh, to lose a rap
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
02:18:36.029 --> 02:18:36.890
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:18:37.651 --> 02:18:38.391
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks, Matt.
02:18:38.552 --> 02:18:40.793
[UNKNOWN]: I'm at love you, Matt.
02:18:40.974 --> 02:18:42.515
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:18:42.635 --> 02:18:43.916
[UNKNOWN]: Now, let's look at the coup.
02:18:43.976 --> 02:18:44.877
[UNKNOWN]: The coups is loose.
02:18:45.417 --> 02:18:46.178
[UNKNOWN]: Here's Kocenish.
02:18:46.858 --> 02:18:51.802
[UNKNOWN]: Let's take a look into what he had to say about this NDA thing.
02:18:52.723 --> 02:18:54.104
[UNKNOWN]: And wait, there's one other thing.
02:18:55.065 --> 02:18:58.488
[UNKNOWN]: Biotech is included, biotechnology.
02:19:00.757 --> 02:19:05.901
[UNKNOWN]: uh, is included, which means green shirts with pathogens, okay?
02:19:06.302 --> 02:19:12.267
[UNKNOWN]: Now keep in mind, Israel never joined a biological weapons convention.
02:19:13.328 --> 02:19:14.989
[UNKNOWN]: So they don't have any obligation here.
02:19:15.009 --> 02:19:21.514
[UNKNOWN]: So we bring them in and they'll have access to, uh, to develop them with bio weapons.
02:19:22.235 --> 02:19:26.538
[UNKNOWN]: Now, if they're inside and these crimes are committed,
02:19:30.165 --> 02:19:31.085
[UNKNOWN]: It stops right there.
02:19:31.185 --> 02:19:31.806
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
02:19:31.826 --> 02:19:32.866
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't even mean to do that.
02:19:32.926 --> 02:19:33.487
[UNKNOWN]: It's such a tease.
02:19:33.547 --> 02:19:33.727
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:19:33.747 --> 02:19:36.428
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see a little bit this creates a formal structure.
02:19:38.949 --> 02:19:48.413
[UNKNOWN]: The other ones were agreements here and there that provided for the kind of cooperation as the malevolent as it may be.
02:19:50.014 --> 02:19:52.375
[UNKNOWN]: At the moment, this is a formal structure.
02:19:53.038 --> 02:20:03.240
[UNKNOWN]: And it has long term implications, it can't be changed really, because they're creating an executive assistant who actually is going to have powers that would be on the equal to the Secretary of Defense.
02:20:04.381 --> 02:20:12.143
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're talking about a technology transfer, I mean, there are concerns that sensitive
02:20:23.452 --> 02:20:40.601
[UNKNOWN]: Procurement issues here that, you know, is really origin technologies might gain statutory preference inside U.S. acquisition pathways, this would put U.S. competitors at a disadvantage.
02:20:48.654 --> 02:20:54.520
[UNKNOWN]: You have AI, there's just some of the areas that they're talking about, formally integrating.
02:20:55.360 --> 02:20:57.382
[UNKNOWN]: This isn't just what we'll work on this or that.
02:20:57.402 --> 02:21:12.996
[UNKNOWN]: No, it was just a formal integration of AI, of cyber, of quantum technologies, of electronic warfare, of missile defense, of the,
02:21:14.854 --> 02:21:16.495
[UNKNOWN]: of space-linked technologies.
02:21:16.735 --> 02:21:17.636
[UNKNOWN]: What's it going on?
02:21:17.916 --> 02:21:18.417
[UNKNOWN]: What's going on?
02:21:18.437 --> 02:21:19.097
[UNKNOWN]: What's going on?
02:21:19.337 --> 02:21:20.058
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's crazy.
02:21:20.378 --> 02:21:33.627
[UNKNOWN]: They attached, they passed, they did not permit a debate in the committee about the Massey kind of amendments because they didn't even include it in the list of amendments that would even be considered.
02:21:34.488 --> 02:21:38.130
[UNKNOWN]: They had a list, a preview, you know, a pre-conceived amendment.
02:21:38.150 --> 02:21:40.572
[UNKNOWN]: Someone else needs to be watching us and then watching them.
02:21:41.757 --> 02:21:47.620
[UNKNOWN]: attached to the bill made in order with the role and sent it to the human society.
02:21:48.181 --> 02:21:53.584
[UNKNOWN]: All the combination with the say back, 14 Republicans all the Democrats voted against it.
02:21:54.004 --> 02:21:54.865
[UNKNOWN]: The role went down.
02:21:54.925 --> 02:21:56.686
[UNKNOWN]: Now, what happens if the rule goes down?
02:21:58.247 --> 02:21:59.167
[UNKNOWN]: They can't get to the bill.
02:21:59.367 --> 02:22:01.949
[UNKNOWN]: Remember, you can't, you cannot.
02:22:02.854 --> 02:22:09.359
[UNKNOWN]: Pass a bill, I mean, he showed us how it has a rule, I was worried that something confidential was going on.
02:22:09.399 --> 02:22:13.823
[UNKNOWN]: Rules approved, then we get to the bill, they couldn't get to the bill.
02:22:13.903 --> 02:22:14.783
[UNKNOWN]: So what happened?
02:22:14.843 --> 02:22:20.868
[UNKNOWN]: The speakers said everybody home and they're coming back on July the 13th.
02:22:21.889 --> 02:22:27.593
[UNKNOWN]: That week, I will promise you that don't have another meeting as a rules committee.
02:22:29.853 --> 02:22:30.153
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh.
02:22:31.034 --> 02:22:31.314
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh.
02:22:31.334 --> 02:22:31.795
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, then.
02:22:32.235 --> 02:22:32.535
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:22:32.615 --> 02:22:36.138
[UNKNOWN]: So, is it formally integrate?
02:22:36.198 --> 02:22:37.479
[UNKNOWN]: Just go a little bit.
02:22:37.499 --> 02:22:39.580
[UNKNOWN]: Let's start with the US military.
02:22:39.700 --> 02:22:39.921
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:22:40.021 --> 02:22:42.102
[UNKNOWN]: I missed the game as long as I've watched parties.
02:22:42.122 --> 02:22:43.904
[UNKNOWN]: So this is nice to be a part of this drilling.
02:22:43.924 --> 02:22:58.995
[UNKNOWN]: Cybertechnology, biotech, missile and air defense, the space program, counter-drone systems, anti-tunneling directed energy, network integration, debt integration.
02:23:01.331 --> 02:23:07.092
[UNKNOWN]: the the infrastructure of the wars of the future.
02:23:07.392 --> 02:23:07.712
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:23:09.132 --> 02:23:14.973
[UNKNOWN]: And so it would integrate the U.S. and Israeli as as one unit.
02:23:17.274 --> 02:23:19.294
[UNKNOWN]: Eliminate the limiting duplications.
02:23:20.374 --> 02:23:21.474
[UNKNOWN]: It isn't boring.
02:23:21.495 --> 02:23:22.795
[UNKNOWN]: There's no other way to put it.
02:23:24.175 --> 02:23:29.636
[UNKNOWN]: And as such we have just we put our
02:23:31.109 --> 02:23:33.251
[UNKNOWN]: into jeopardy.
02:23:34.111 --> 02:23:35.632
[UNKNOWN]: Our sovereignty is in jeopardy.
02:23:37.153 --> 02:23:42.217
[UNKNOWN]: Israel assumes that we have the same objectives that Israel has.
02:23:43.238 --> 02:23:45.959
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll be dragging them more wars by Israel.
02:23:46.240 --> 02:23:47.140
[UNKNOWN]: I mentioned it earlier.
02:23:47.741 --> 02:23:56.347
[UNKNOWN]: It won't be too long before we're with Turkey and each of them, you know, because that's what Israel wants as part of this Zionist ambition for
02:23:57.150 --> 02:23:58.072
[UNKNOWN]: an expansion.
02:23:58.452 --> 02:24:02.057
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, very scary stuff and you definitely want to, oh, sorry.
02:24:02.912 --> 02:24:08.213
[UNKNOWN]: You would definitely want to join the Patreon for that, but also I very want to listen to this in the car tomorrow.
02:24:08.473 --> 02:24:08.693
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
02:24:08.773 --> 02:24:09.073
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:24:09.614 --> 02:24:09.894
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:24:09.914 --> 02:24:11.054
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this was really fun.
02:24:11.394 --> 02:24:12.554
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I will donate.
02:24:12.674 --> 02:24:14.755
[UNKNOWN]: I will put a link in to support.
02:24:14.775 --> 02:24:16.755
[UNKNOWN]: That's such an awkward segue.
02:24:16.895 --> 02:24:17.675
[UNKNOWN]: Dr. Sophia.
02:24:17.916 --> 02:24:18.576
[UNKNOWN]: I was Sophia.
02:24:18.676 --> 02:24:19.296
[UNKNOWN]: Very important.
02:24:19.876 --> 02:24:21.876
[UNKNOWN]: Definitely check out Ben has Barra.
02:24:22.717 --> 02:24:25.817
[UNKNOWN]: Check out the Daniel debate with Jesse Brown.
02:24:26.217 --> 02:24:28.098
[UNKNOWN]: That was, then I helped midwife.
02:24:28.278 --> 02:24:28.818
[UNKNOWN]: You sure did.
02:24:28.878 --> 02:24:30.258
[UNKNOWN]: Really, really do appreciate it.
02:24:30.498 --> 02:24:31.599
[UNKNOWN]: But we didn't do it on purpose.
02:24:33.203 --> 02:24:34.724
[UNKNOWN]: I do let it into existence.
02:24:34.764 --> 02:24:35.464
[UNKNOWN]: No, it wasn't that.
02:24:35.484 --> 02:24:36.445
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, Oh, what?
02:24:36.465 --> 02:24:37.466
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to think of a set up.
02:24:37.866 --> 02:24:41.328
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe in that way, you were just he pounds career's death.
02:24:41.348 --> 02:24:41.648
[UNKNOWN]: Do a lot.
02:24:42.248 --> 02:24:46.111
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I feel yeah helped him with this transition.
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[UNKNOWN]: Tell people where they can find you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Bad has barra at gmail.com is our email.
02:24:53.795 --> 02:24:56.237
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why I gave you that here, but bad is barra.com.
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[UNKNOWN]: Most moral pod on Twitter.
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[UNKNOWN]: at his borough on Instagram and I'm Daniel B. Mattay in both places.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's Daniel B is in Brooklyn and may to eat.
02:25:07.962 --> 02:25:08.342
[UNKNOWN]: Awesome.
02:25:08.862 --> 02:25:09.423
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks, Daniel.
02:25:10.113 --> 02:25:10.353
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:25:10.373 --> 02:25:11.734
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this was a really fun stream.
02:25:11.874 --> 02:25:12.494
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Brad.
02:25:12.514 --> 02:25:12.895
[UNKNOWN]: So much.
02:25:12.915 --> 02:25:13.535
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Nate.
02:25:13.575 --> 02:25:13.915
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
02:25:13.975 --> 02:25:14.916
[UNKNOWN]: Everyone.
02:25:14.956 --> 02:25:16.256
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, fans and respond to for the clip.
02:25:16.276 --> 02:25:17.277
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you to all the guests.
02:25:17.917 --> 02:25:33.646
[UNKNOWN]: And we will see you Friday to support the show to get bonus content to see all of John Mirchheimer and Janice Marifakis and all of Dennis Kustinich talking about the merger and go to patreon.com slash the Katie Helper Show again that's patreon.com slash the Katie Helper Show or
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[UNKNOWN]: And then let us know if you think an AMA, you would like an AMA.
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[UNKNOWN]: Would you pay for an AMA?
02:25:40.815 --> 02:25:41.916
[UNKNOWN]: Like monthly AMA?
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:25:45.842 --> 02:25:47.023
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, especially Fred's in it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Bucky.
02:25:49.006 --> 02:25:49.287
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:25:49.527 --> 02:25:50.068
[UNKNOWN]: Bye everyone.
02:25:54.348 --> 02:25:57.091
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