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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, welcome back to Jetpress podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My name is Justin Fried and joining me for this week's episode of TJP Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it is the man himself?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know him from his work over at Jets X-Factor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Robby Sabo Robby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going on my friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's out, Justin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's talk Jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's on your mind?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's plenty of things to talk about so I hear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: this team never gives us a shortage of things to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's always plenty of discourse going on and you know when to talk about some of the hot topic items, I guess, on jet social media right now and jet circles and also, we'll preview bears a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get into that and actually talk about hey man, could this, could this team meet team be two and two, go into that Browns matchup and can we start to dream of three and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, oh, wow, we got the Patriots coming up after that, and Drake may's looking bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, I'm going to head of ourselves, but we could start to dream at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we get into that bear's matchup, I do want to talk to you about a few, again, of the trending topics in Jet Circles right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, I gave you a heads up before the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to start with David Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know this one is a specifically, you know, you have,
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[SPEAKER_00]: plenty of opinions about David Bailey and I'll say this because this is not meant to be a gacha.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also was in the the R. V. Reese camp before the the draft that's who I prefer the Jets and Taken Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a really interesting start to David Bailey's NFL career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have the numbers here, you know, two sacks, ten pressures, four run stops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the numbers don't look bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 64.8 PFF grade, whatever you stock you put into that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Run defense grade, actually pretty solid, pass first grade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what's been a little interesting I think about Bailey is that he's exceeded expectations for me at least as a run defender I think he's been very disciplined in the run game He's obviously making the hustle plays which we knew the motor ran hot with him That's not that's not shocking I think he's exceeded expectations in that regard
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a past Russia, you are seeing some of the limitations that people thought he had coming out of Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The lack of Ben has been a very hot topic on conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What have been your thoughts on David Bailey's performance through the first three weeks of the season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, well, number one, what he did him any favors during August, they, the expectations reached an astronaut level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I get it, it's natural, because everyone's reporting on what they're seeing at practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And while all the veterans on the beat, they do a tremendous job, but the fans and the stands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: things go crazy and you know expectations go nuts especially for a top five pick number two Bailey especially and quickness the promise is quickness translates in practice but power and physicality just does not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And since the 2012 CBA, these practices aren't football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something different in practice and in camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the expectations really put him in a bad spot because everyone's expecting this dominant pass for our show from the get-go, but it's just not going to be the case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when offensive tackles get their hands in on him, it's tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the PFF grades look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: stats, PFF, I respect them in this regard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They try to grade, they try to get to the end result that is the overall result, the overall package, as opposed to just cherry picking stats, like in my mind, pastoral stats are really, really misleading, especially the pressures.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where you, what was week one, six pressures for them against Tennessee?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, different databases out in with different, I think, I think, I think next year in sports, I'm at 6 p.m. with four or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make sense, I think it might have been two, some people had them at two, and then one, next gen does GPS, so they don't count leverage, they don't count certain things on the football field, it's just dots on a screen, is he within this
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[SPEAKER_01]: that should never be looked at even sacks, you know, that second week one week two he made a nice play and more so it was a nice check at the at the line where the packers weren't a twins look brought the outside receiver in into a stack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see the Mario pointing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hey, hey, hey, watch out for this watch out for this tomorrow, Bailey looking at the Mario and Bailey knew right away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They worked on and practiced if they motion in and this look, look for the swing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look for the whatever it was bubble or receiver and he went right downhill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dunbar and Glen are doing a good job with Baylor that trying to keep him on track.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought week one was Godawful because he was chaotic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was down hill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was just trying to willude and he was getting out of his lane and he was, like you said, his motor's always fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Backside, chase down if he's in position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the run game, it's going to be a positive if he's guessing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the for people trying to fin belly right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to point to in week three with those two plays he made on the last drive and the second of last drive where he guessed well one of them he guessed inside and caught the running back from behind on the backside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one before that he kind of played the edge in a traditionally nice way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't looked at that play yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to watch it on film and then kind of disengage and got him for a tackle a yard loss or no gain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He came up big when his team needed him the most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not hearing anyone saying that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all the pro, pro, pro Billy guys out there, they're not bringing that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what they should bring up as opposed to just saying wait and see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everyone knew my thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: not subtle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Avril Reese was the better player by far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the NFL is becoming more positionless as the years go on, especially defensively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think passing is becoming quicker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's quicker time to throw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, pass rushing is more of a team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: element now a team structure as opposed to one on one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a Reggie White Kevin Green go get him because those were longer developing passes and you didn't have mobile quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today is more team oriented.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought Reese especially in the three four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he's the perfect outside edge outside linebacker in a three four with an edge he could drop he could pass her as she could play the edge Bailey guess what he's going to keep dropping and i know fans don't like that i don't like that he shouldn't drop he's a password sure purely um but it's going to keep happening so look i want to reach two but no way i'm going to crush Bailey three games into into his career he's got a
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[SPEAKER_01]: they just got to keep on that track of getting them used to the NFL and some of the things he has to do that he was never asked to do at Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, and I'm glad you brought up the the team pass rush aspect of this because I think that's something that often gets very overlooked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The play that keeps making the rounds this week is the the Jared golf to Isaac to slow 49 yards right where Bailey is able to kind of get there, but he doesn't quite get home before golf,
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[SPEAKER_00]: really doesn't have any pass rush to correct like Joann Briggs is probably the best that they got there and he's a guy that they brought over from Cleveland where the Rapp on him was like, oh, he's he's a good run defender where maybe you know there's some pass rush upside But he's exceeded expectations of the pass rush or bad side of that like on that play I'm pretty sure it was Harrison Philips rushing to pass He gets completely wiped out by the left guard
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's either sweater brigs as the other D tackle and neither of them, whoever that was ain't up a double team, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can get any sort of an interior push there and really that's probably on Phillips because he's got the 101 matchup and he's just, she's not something he does, his win pass rush reps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you got in some sort of interior push, then golf isn't able to step up in the pocket in the way that he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if that's the case,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the lack of Ben from Bailey on that play in just in general is a lot less noticeable and he probably gets home and he probably gets the sack and then all the credits going to Bailey whereas like oh the the interior that defensive line is going to get on notice there but they're probably the ones that help make that happen it's a bad combination I think of Bailey Skullset with what the jets are working with on the interior.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and that was another shocker to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like three, four, it's going to go three, four, going Bailey over Reese's just stunning, stunning to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it, but you're so right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Defense is the variability and uniqueness each week in terms of putting together a defense of gameplay and is massive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Week one, what was the only thing that worked for Tennessee?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially early, cam award.
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[SPEAKER_01]: escaping the pocket and using his legs, and that's Brian Dable's influence, and that worked on the first drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It worked, I think, at a third quarter, early in a third quarter as well, it's why McGregor was graded so much better in terms of against Bailey or anyone else on the D-line, because McGregor, when you see him pass rush,
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[SPEAKER_01]: he stays in the lane, he uses power, he squeezes it, he pinches it, and he did wonders for the jet defense because that is what they needed against Cam Morton Tennessee, and Glenn and the jet's new, hey, let's just not be responsible in the past rush, let's keep it tight and let's squeeze it because we know this quarterback is so bad, as long as we don't let him escape the pocket and find room and make plays down the field break and you know, be like like mad and like play
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll win the game because he can't beat us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, it's, everything's different and Detroit, what was most important was stopping off from stepping up, like, uh, all the old Jets fans know Tom Brady when was he mostly the only stepped up delivered the ball, um, with momentum going forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the interior, you, you need, they don't have interior juice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing is if you're three four, you're more of a red react system, so the
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[SPEAKER_01]: explode downhill like sala interior still which is more attack react out of even looks for three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to adjust that mindset more on passing downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think at the end of the day, you got up the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't stop the run, you won't get to the quarterback because you won't get those opportunities to Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the numbers didn't look overwhelming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was 99 for Gibbs about 130 overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you take out guffs for for six, I think it was it's close to five yards
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't look crazy overwhelming, but it is because it gives us along with 17.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was just consistent to start that second half over and over and over again, just bullying them and pushing them back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when that happens, you're never going to get a consistent password.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're never going to get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of different angles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to figure out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to be imperative as we talk later about this bear's matchup, because bear's team runs the ball better than almost any team in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, as it's today, DeAndrey Swift just popped up in the end of your report with the, I think it was in Ditty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's, he got my name guy in a couple fantasy leagues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I mean, that's, that's big for you, he did not practice today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, that's going to be one to keep an eye on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, on the, the Bailey thing one last thing, because I think there was this, this is really interesting chart that I want to pull up here that I think, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: shows a lot of kind of Bailey's current limitations as a player does a couple of columns here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is first just showing the top 20 pressure leaders in the NFL right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Dallas Turner who's kicking ass right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Start this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see Bailey's here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got 14.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At least this is by I think NFL pros tracking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have him 14 here, but the column that keep an eye on here is TTP, which is time to pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his time to pressure, David Bailey is 3.49.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which is significantly higher than anybody else in this list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second eyes, I think it's 3.17.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It explains this to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's had more time to get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So basically it's 3.49.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that's his average time to pressure on those 14 pressures.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the only other guy like the next closest guy is Jeffrey Simmons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: interior guy where you'd expect an interior guy to take a little bit longer with those pressure sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So 3.49 significantly hard in anyone else, but there's another column that I think is interesting too, the get-off column, which basically, that's how they're measuring your first step, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: 0.75 is David Bailey's, which is the second highest of any player in this list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you still, you're basically, this is like David Bailey in a nutshell, the quick first step is still there, which we knew that at Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the time to pressure, it's taken him forever to get these pressures, which signifies that or indicates that these are covered pressures, these are, you know, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're their hustle plays by Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not exactly him just winning one on one reps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's kind of just indicative of his game overall right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really not winning a ton of one on one reps, because, you know, the lack of band or whatever you want to say, I think he also just doesn't have
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[SPEAKER_00]: is super refined password arsenal like he doesn't really have like if he had a will McDonald's been moved right now or some sort of counter that he can you know counter inside he doesn't really have that in his arsenal and it's in his this is third and a okay right so that's not something to kill the guy over it's just pointing to like here are areas that he can improve and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know jet fans are going to sound the alarms on this and be like, they drafted an edge rush or second overall with no band, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's context to it, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, I know you were a big res guy just overall was not a good draft class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that's point has been said to nausea and nausea at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in a normal draft class, like this, if David Bailey's an issue is class, I don't know if he's a top eight pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's going to be a lot of blue chip talents and premium positions this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just, they're just wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's unfair to hold Bailey to those expectations of like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: is he going to be a mile's Garrett like no he's never going to be that he does not have the the bend to be a mile's meridies and no I mean very few players and then if the history or a freaky is Garrett is but I do still think he can be a really effective NFL player I think he needs to develop that past rush arsenal
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, you know, Carl Dunbar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to go to teach him up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Aaron Glenn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the rest of this defense of staff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got to work with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a smart guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're at the Stanford.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I totally think that's something he could do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's still in his third NFL game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that stuff needs to get added to his game because right now it feels like tackles are kind of just oversetting against them and trying to force him to go to go wide with speed or he's he's been trying to win with power as well a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he doesn't fully have that in his game at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that he doesn't have like a kind of inside counter move, I think it's making life very easy for the stack goals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like we mentioned, the interior pass rush is not getting any push either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes it even easier to kind of wipe them out of the play and just go wide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think this chart kind of shows a lot of that about the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you look at the film week one versus week two in three are drastically different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the way it goes with the jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way it goes in the NFL, not individually, but team-wise, too, because you got something on tape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's just, he does, he's a finesse, a dude player and he doesn't win with power.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even in the run game too, there's instances when he just gets, he just gets bullied and moved and pushed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of it comes down to, when I look at a player and I'm evaluating, I go, okay, how many ways can this guy impact a game?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, and how many ways can he win?
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[SPEAKER_01]: on a play that impacts the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I look at a guy like Bailey, I see he's a cuby hunter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't really want him moving laterally, so that's not good for 101 tackling, solo tackling space, and he's a finesse guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes around, he goes around blocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a finesse winner, Reese, finesse wins with power.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He could play in space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it just basically came down to that to me and the way the NFL is these days, but with Bailey week one, he was hectic, he was all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was at a control and it was really, really bad, but Tennessee was worse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kim Ward was worse and I think since that film room after week one, Glenn and Dumbar have gotten him on the back
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[SPEAKER_01]: in terms of being more responsible and disciplined.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I see some promising stuff there, but he only makes not only, almost all of his plays in the run game are made when there's action put on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you say, okay, go ahead and slant inside, guess inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he has to win the get off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has to time the snap to make it happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everyone loves his first step and his quickness and no doubt he's quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's his game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you take away the get-off in the timing of the snap, I would say Reese's quicker, Reese's quicker than Bailey from A to B.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that get-off that timing of the snap where he's a master at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he doesn't get that down, it doesn't run action inside, outside, instead of playing it straight up with the blocker, very little success.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem is if you can't run action on every play, because it's high risk, high reward, it's just, you gotta play it straight up sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the biggest issue right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about another Jets rookie who probably even more positive things to say about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the biggest takeaway for a lot of Jets fans coming out of that Sunday lost to the Lions, which tough loss, they fought hard and, you know, they were down 14 at a point and going to the right mindset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The game plan was right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They came out with the right mindset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the most encouraging takeaway, at least for me, coming out of that game, was the emergence of Kenyan City.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because this is a guy who obviously a lot of people had tempered expectations for coming into 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he misses the whole summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does not get the practice because of the the hernius surgery, the recovery from that was already kind of unrefined player coming out of Oregon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think there was there was a lot of
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[SPEAKER_00]: athletic and raw athleticism and natural talent, but he needed a little bit of seasoning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of times, I know we've been spoiled a little bit recently with guys like Tyler Warren and Colston Lovelin coming into the league and immediately producing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it's changing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Harold Fanon too, like maybe it's changing, but historically the tight end position has been one that it takes a few years to kind of find your footing sometimes, especially with a player like Steve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think a lot of people expected like going into the year, maybe the first few weeks, first couple of months of the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take him a bit of time to get more involved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: clearly made it a point of emphasis to get this guy involved as much as he could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Went away from that a bit in week two, but then week three, no add an imitial, no mason tell, no arm or group or mercury junior, they are forced to get him involved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did, and he rewarded them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 7 catches 105 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: perfect 150 8.3 pass rating when target of course you had that leaping touchdown into the ad zone, which I mean, that was probably the best play I've seen by a giant end in my lifetime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the bar is a very low for that, but is still true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the first jet's tight end with 100 yards in a game since Ryan Griffin of all players in 2019.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and only the the second jet's tight ends since 2011 with a hundred plus yards in the game, the other one was dust the color.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this franchise has been starved for dynamic tight end play like this for a very, very long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the question I'll ask you here is
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously we'll find out more in the coming weeks, and especially this week, no Mason Taylor, again, no Mark Cooper, Jr. No Adity Mitchell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to continue to be thrust into this role, whether he's ready for it or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you kind of recalibrated your expectations for what I guess I could ask you first, what were your expectations for Sidney?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And after seeing what he did on Sunday, have you kind of recalibrated your expectations of what he might do as a rookie?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when the draft happens,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wasn't subtle about who I wanted it to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also said, I wouldn't have taken Sadeek.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have taken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted I only that the lineman who I'm sure, but I would take him a car lemon not sedicat at 16.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was a big Macay lemon fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now this out that was nowhere near the level of number two like sedicats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, I understand it, but he's raw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know he's going to fit into the the run game, which is flying under the radar right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he hasn't been a good rum blocker, which is kind of lost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and it's really hurting
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's unbelievable, and he just has to stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has to stay healthy, and he has to figure out the run game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he does that, my goodness, it was the right pick all the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kudos to Frank Wright, Kudos to the Jets organization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they got a game involved, they have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if Cooper and AD are out, I'm shocked, they didn't use a more and receiver type roles, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Mason Taylor was also missing, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're really struggling to run the ball and you want to run the ball and I don't know, Jellani struggled to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're kind of catch 22.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You really don't have another body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe back could go in line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, just keep hammering it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep getting them involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get him the ball, him and Garrett, and then away you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to, you have to force feed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just got to get something going in the run game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you're going to do it with him involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's forced to be that second pass catcher in his offense right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have no one else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that he was able to fill that role as quickly as he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it speaks to one his maturity and his intelligence level as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we knew the physical talent was there, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you heard coaches speak so highly of his maturity and his ability to adapt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, the fact that he's done that in his third NFL game, despite not having a summer to practice at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's extremely encouraging and and get you very excited when you're thinking about like if this is a good he is now in the in game three what is he by year three you know like could he be it's up five tight in the NFL I think absolutely I think he has the ceiling for that whether he will reach that cylinder not it's going to take consistency is going to take time obviously he needs to get better just Is a awareness in the run game again it feels like he's a little lost out there sometimes Yeah, the tough part the tough part is
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[SPEAKER_01]: big trying to put him in positions where he's just reacting and playing as opposed to thinking and that is almost impossible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like an impossible task, but right is trying, he's trying his hardest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's the area where his, his impact right now, especially with no 80 Mitchell has felt is they have, he can attack vertically and there is nobody else, they don't really use Garrett Wilson that way, at least they haven't for the first three games, they really haven't used him to attack vertically, they have a guy in Kenya city that I mean that touchdown pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just how many times we wanted to see a jet site in attack to seem like that and just just
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what he did at Oregon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was an acute B to be unafraid to throw it, 100% and I think that game is well went a long way for Gino kind of gaining that confidence in CD.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a couple of catches, not even just that touch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the other one he made, where it's like, that's a tough grab.
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[SPEAKER_00]: right like that's not just like a little little five yard hitch right rid of right in his chest like now he was making plays and he was rewarding Gino for trusting him and you hope that not only you know with with the guys out with 80 Mitchell and Cooper and Taylor out but even when those guys are back that Gino remembers that and continues to trust city because the dynamic ability that he has in the receiving game in this past in game like it really really opens up so much for the
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[SPEAKER_00]: that that's a two score Detroit win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they were absolutely screwed because they had nothing behind it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did not so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really good point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he's sterling shepherd running routes, Malique McClellan, like these guys are not going to be thrown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, but hey, good catch by sterling on the two point or do you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: almost was a little too late, but he threw up behind him and it was very catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Sidique, Loki, should have had another, or we know it was the two point tries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Sidique should have had that two point try the first one where Gino just missed him in the back of the end zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was kind of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, I got to let's that again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure on that first two point try the failed one City is kind of wide open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what genos or progressions were on that play, but City was there and he just he didn't see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got his hands up and pretty sure and he just kind of didn't see him So it should have been even even bigger game for can you see but I'm very excited about what we could see from the rest of the season you bring up genome Yeah, because you know, I think there were
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, again, tempered expectations for Gino coming into the season because the question was again how much he has left and how much of 2025 was because of his situation and I know we brought on Levi Dombro runs our Raiders side of big Raiders guys, you know, watches every single snap that they play and he was
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[SPEAKER_00]: how much of his struggles last year were because of a toxic situation because the online was a disgrace, the coaching was a mess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like everything about that's rock-bowers gets hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got their feet thrown in the nobody, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's throw after they trade, you call it, we might as thrown absolutely nobody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like how much of it is physical decline and how much of it is just the toxic situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think through the first three games of this season, like you know, I have the stat here about his performance on Sunday, I use the first jet score to back in history and the little cherry fixed stats here,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, listen, supports my agenda.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's OK. Yeah, it was the first quarter back in February.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Use the first quarter like Jet's history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Throw for 300 more yards in a game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three or more touchdowns, no interceptions, and complete 83 or more percent of his passes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You went 31 to 37, 321 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He currently leads the NFL in both completion percentage and completion percentage over expected.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he is exceeding even the loftiest of expectations that people had for Gino coming into this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: how much of this thing you think is fool's gold and we're kind of just waiting for the other shoot-a-fall and he's going to have these stinkers and he's going to progress or you know how much of it you think is he's just kind of legit like this has just been a legit you know you know it's been a really good three-game stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You said the Raiders fan base doesn't like him at that he signal to them that they're number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's somewhere in the middle because
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Jett's defense was, you know, ranked extremely high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With a number one in the league after two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were there currently still, too, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still two yards, a lot of yards was it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the context is everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tennessee might be the worst team in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kim Moore, it's just my goodness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a mess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God bless you, solemn table.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you guys are gonna do, but, you know, in fairness to Kim Moore, it's solid brings that on his coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, aren't his quarterbacks and a lot of ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: plays with game flow and game plans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The quarterbacks gets a little shire because they don't want to turn the ball over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I firmly believe that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everything Drake does, everything the OC or DC does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fundals from the head coach that vision that's that expectation that's set and the same thing goes with right under Glenn So when I say right if I credit right for having a good game or or criticize and for having a bad game It falls under Glenn still and they came out in this Detroit game and
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[SPEAKER_01]: did the right thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have easily tried to do the wrong thing, play conservative field possession ball, but they didn't, they came out throwing, they thought Detroit would be aggressive based on Green Bay, what Green Bay did the week before and again and was absurdly aggressive against the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the old line had no chance, the old line wasn't good, and it hasn't been good, the last two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: two things can be true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't good and they also were up against it in terms of odds because the run blitzing was just outrageous on early downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the just came out to the right thing, they passed the ball, they tried to move it in the air first, make Detroit think about, think twice about their game plan being so aggressive, and Detroit, the more the stories, Detroit's secondary isn't Shambles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you know, I love what Gino's done, but I think we have to temper expectations a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As long as Glenn sticks to that type of attitude in mindset, what we saw in Detroit in terms of the game plan, Gino could have a nice year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could have a nice year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my cat has decided to join us right as a talk there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I'm still waiting for that classic genosmith's thinker game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I do feel like it's coming at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Chicago feels like not to like speak anything to new existence here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago feels like a prime opportunity for the possible to defense that takes the ball away a lot, even, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: changing the defense of staff, they still say I take it all away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Gets D just they cannot let Chuy goes off and said jump on them too because that will need more to genome stakes and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough, because this Jets defense is so, and it's a lot better and better coached and more disciplined than it was a year ago, but it's just so not threatening to face, because there's really, there's not a lot of fear of turning the ball over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The past rush is not getting home with the front four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like it's an easier defense to game plan against, which sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who you're saying that last year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's better than it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have more talent, first of all, that helps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also think they're better coach, but,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's, here's the real sin so far I see this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Deach, uh, Green Bay, the green, the green big game starts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything is going the judge's way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Penalties are being thrown left and right on Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jaden Reed goes down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the starting right tackle goes down early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then another offensive line goes down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were in shambles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw what Atlanta did to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yet,
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[SPEAKER_01]: their first touchdown, the Martian Lloyd screen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a long drive when which the floor just said, okay, we're going to pound the ball and they pound the ball on the justice defense and ran down their throats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the stats don't look that bad in terms of run D, but it's so much more it's so much worse than the stats and the context Tennessee hadn't was no threat offensively
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got to stop the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to stop the run first and foremost, and they just haven't been able to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're really getting owned in the trenches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we could applaud Glenn's mindset doing the right thing against the game against the opponent with Detroit in week three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're going to get manhandled like this, you have no chance to do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's talk about the offense a lot and you mentioned getting man-handled in the trenches the last two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Lee for the majority of the Packers game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the offensive line at least passed blocking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Runblocking is a whole different story right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But past production I thought was pretty damn good for most of that Packers game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it fell apart late in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But really the last two weeks since Tennessee the run blocking has been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: awful, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And no, everyone's picking on like I have the old who stats here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All who had a bad, a bad week three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously Rex went went scorched earth on on five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was just very emotional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know how Rex gets about the chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he just.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he went into that thinking he was going to have an older fashion event in him and then he just was like, this is the guy who was bad this week and I'm going to go out of him, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's kind of just happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it just came out of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the run blocking specifically is what I want to ask you back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you know, whatever, although at a bad game, member would have bad way to it happens, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Young tackles, they're still growing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not super concerned about them long-term as part of the past protection.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The run block is a bit of mess the last two weeks, and I think there's a lot of reasons for it, but I really want to get your thoughts on that because, you know, some of it is, yeah, look, their center is not very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh Myers is not good, and unfortunately now having Jordan Meredith starting next to the mid-left card is going to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be a tougher to overcome because they already couldn't really run the ball the last two weeks with parmen the lineup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you put another weak link on the offensive line, a guy in Meredith who's not overwhelmingly powerful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess been that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they missed Mason's hailer last week too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're also missing gets under disgust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're missing Omar Cooper Jr. And Adeline Mitchell, because those guys are better blot like Isaiah Williams is five ten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he tries his heart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he has milled rockers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of motors, his motor is great as a blocker, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what a staff loves him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they trust him as a blocker, probably more than they should, because like he just fizzies 510 a buck 80, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's only so much he could do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have to start like shepherd out there blocking and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's it's I think all of that combines to what we've seen from the run block in the last couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it may be some of it's scheme too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think honestly, that's more of a question for you than I.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what do you think the issues have been with this run game?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And why why the run block has been so poor in his last two weeks?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's been a combination, everything, game plan number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you watch the Packers game, Jonathan Ganon, it in a lot of ways, the more watch it, the more it reminds me of week two last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Buffalo and the results are completely different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Buffalo, crush them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think 30 to 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just should have be Green Bay, but they didn't in gay management doomed them at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they never took that shop deep when they had the chance many times when Green Bay was just given it to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like McDermott last year, Gannon said, all right, I'm just going to run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to put pressure on the B on the A and just fill those gaps early and
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[SPEAKER_01]: on first down on second down on all balanced rush first down's and dare the jets to beat me over the top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And until they adjust, I'm going to keep doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to keep doing it, I'm going to keep doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it wore down the line at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for indecisive backs, Breeze Hall glends coach this out of him a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he used to dance a lot more than he does now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, he tried to get it to these guys dance and look for the home run and they look to try to
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I get it because usually losing your in a bad situation, trying to hit the home run, sometimes you just have to get that three dirty yards instead of dancing, trying to look for a hundred yards, but losing three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So all those factors, together, Myers has been rough short.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The tight end blocking is a major major issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Dic and Jelani Woods, even a
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that they're running a lot of get stuff right now, not zone and the old line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know is either a really small group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you have any info on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they're smaller, big compared to the rest of the league, but I know this other than Membo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll throw the defense in there too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other than Membo and Ignore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe tippin' at times a little bit in the Mario filling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of these trench players are finesse softer guys in terms of mentality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something I don't know how they're going to fix or address.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could be fine if everything else is good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's something that you really got to overcome and kind of flip and switch if the other things aren't good, which they haven't been the game plan and the defense really run blitzing a lot and briefs not being decisive in the tight end blocking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I doubt right changes it up and starts wanting wide zones on every play, but they got to do something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to figure out something and maybe the secret really is G, you know, in the passing game to start it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because people are asking them to do a lot more play action because they've kind of gone away from that a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The run game's got to work for them to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they got to actually be able to run the ball effectively.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, what's the point, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not fooling anybody at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this is a little bit of a stretch, but I think having a Isaiah Davis gets some carriers going to help with the Isaiah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I say Davis is a very underrated football player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said going into the summer, not to make this like an anti-brainer Alan thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought I'd say Davis was a better football player overall than Alan is a lot more physically gifted than Davis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you talk about a guy who's not afraid to get the three or four dirty yards like that's like Davis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be dancing around back there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's athletically limited in what he could do, especially when you compare him to Brainer Alan and Bryce Hall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he can help the running game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's someone that they should be playing even when braces back and healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think I say, they should have a role in offense, even if it's five to 10 snaps, you know, nothing more than that again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think he provides value there that they're not really getting from their other backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I also think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they should place a deek more as the third receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it takes him out of the blocking scheme in line, it puts him as a power slot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what if the corner's covered him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still fast enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A quick enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it hurts your matchups, but these days, against 12 personnel, 13 personnel, a lot of defense are playing three safeties anyway, big nickel, the judge certainly do it a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that matchup is neutralized.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a lesser evil than having a deek in line as part of an important part of the blocking scheme.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... gets a deep out there and let him play some receiver i agree and let's talk bears now real quick you mentioned before the jets have to stop the run to just win in the NFL you gotta do that but especially this week against the Chicago bears rushing team or team that they are the best running team in the NFL i should have are they through three weeks they are the best running team let me move us over there there we go should end up before
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... they're number one rush stamps number rushing yards and one of the yards per attempt second rushing touchdowns and tenth in rushing EPA uh... like we mentioned before deandry so it did not practice work recording us on Thursday the under so it's a not practice today so we'll see what's going on there what's his injury do you know i think it was a knee
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I, I saw it right before we started recording, so I don't give people an idea of exactly when we were recording this, uh, let me see it was a knee injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a knee injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, that's something to monitor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's definitely not not not nothing there and is a, as a, if you're a Kyle, but none guy fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You like to hear that, but this bear's Russian team, they run now out of the ball and they do it very effectively and it's not just because of their backs like obviously the underswip I think is is a very, very quality rotational back and common on guy you talk about a guy who's not afraid to get the dirty three yards see I love common on guy and the way that he runs the ball he is fun to watch, all those runners backs I feel like her own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say up a check-o like they got another guy there right now Raymond Antoine Raymond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think his name is who runs most of the early He's gonna be another like monogypa check-o that goes in like the sixth round and everyone's like oh, he's actually an NFL player What happened here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's not even just the running backs like the old line They have a nastyness to them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Darnell Wright.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is
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[SPEAKER_00]: one, maybe these are top five run blocking tackle in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, I mean, that may be underselling him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's awesome in the run game, and then they got the tight ends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, constant love on Colcomet is one of the best tight end doers in the NFL, and they draft the Sam Rao show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Baris fans have been down on for whatever reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a couple like penalties or whatever that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: now they're like he sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the worst NFL player ever because that's how that's how it goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, they use a ton of 12 and 13 personnel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have those heavy formations and they are able to run it down your throats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And going into this game, I think that's probably going to be one of the biggest points of emphasis for this jet staff is we have to stop this run game, especially no Caleb Williams, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know we still we presume no Caleb Williams technically not rolled out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But is Bayesian on the injury for no, he's healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be either Bayesian or Keynam and Ben Johnson has said that he will not announce a starting quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will find out, which is the right way to play it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I look, I mean, there's a separate plane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you don't stick with him after what he just did on Sunday, but it feels a little bit like I think that I think the vibe coming out of Chicago is that he's leaning Beijing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what's going to happen to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's one of those things where it's like there was no QB competition to summer page and was definitively QB to they really like him in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they want to just like not let him start because he got hurt which sucks, you know, it's whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a Jets fan, I would prefer, I would prefer to face patient in this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, Ben Johnson, I love him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rared to bat him before he got the job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kooby Act, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God bless Raiders fans and lucky sons of bitches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I love Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's perfect for today's NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, live these coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Separate point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2005.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Glenn may have been a better head coach than Ben Johnson because based on that game, you could play field position, you could play defense first, you could do a lot of those things that matter a lot more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Andy Reed back in the day, he was past first, would get criticized all the time for passing too much on 3rd and 2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The league, the rules caught up to Reed, as opposed to the other way around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, Ben Johnson came along at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He merged at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's great, but if he does have a flaw, sometimes he overthinks
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw that in the Detroit playoff game where they lose in the divisional, I think, right, they're last year together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was run was strange, way he laid out the play calling that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were running trick plays really early, and it wasn't working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the trick plays look great when they work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They look foolish when they
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[SPEAKER_01]: and you need the foundation to be there for trick plays to work and they couldn't get the foundation going against Washington enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe you ever thinks it and it goes the jet's way and he goes with Beijing because he's thinking, okay, Kingdom, I got away with one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This dude's old, he hasn't played since Abraham Lincoln was president.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I got away with one, he shouldn't be playing and this film now, there's tape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, he knows Aaron Glenn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Glenn knows him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he thinks Beijing is the right move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And knowing Ben Johnson, knowing a crafty and sneaky is kind of lean towards Beijing right now to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they go with Beijing too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as a jet fan like watching, I think,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you get a base level of competency with Kenom that I'm not confident you're going to get with Agent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Magency, young QB, he's got to be more prone to mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're more likely to get a agent game where it turns ball over two or three times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do our a key name game, and that's going to benefit the Jets because they need to win every battle in the margins that they can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they can win the turn over battle in this game, they absolutely have a chance to steal it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think with Kenom, Kenom's the safer approach, and a game like this, I feel like Chicago just needs to go safer with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're probably leaning Beijing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they think they go in that direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm Glenn, it's a different seat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know he blitzed a lot, especially in the second half Glenn against Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But even though he blitzed, he still kind of played it safe on the back end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of too high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was kind of, I think his game plan was, all right, I know Campbell, I know Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could run the ball and not going to let them run the ball, but I'm going
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't want to give everybody a chunk place and I'm going to gamble that they get in patient and they start throwing the ball when they shouldn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even though Detroit coulda ran the ball even more, I think it was 33 to 30 runs to passes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was his game plan, just be patient, they're going to start throwing and start throwing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: different against Ben Johnson and Chicago because of the quarterback situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's going to be ultra aggressive with Minka playing if he does play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is, he won't be going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said he's playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said he said it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Minka's going to be hanging around the line of skirmish as a lineback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to play so much big nickel and they're going to be so aggressive against the run on early downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the game plan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just have to be careful because Ben Johnson will
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[SPEAKER_01]: try to sneak a few, sneak a few over the top stuff, funnily downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's, that's going to be the goal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to be careful of a jet's legend, Khalif Raymond, who is apparently, why'd receiver one in Chicago now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even tell you that I remember him being on the jets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, I think it was 2017, when they were, remember when they were just, this was pre-ondri-roverts, and they were cycling through a bunch of just
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[SPEAKER_00]: scrub were turners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, notice respect, Kalee Bramon is made 12-year career, whatever it is now, 10-year career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have like Jojo Natsin, like, these are deep holes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm not sure if you're going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're killing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have like a weird fixation with an encyclopedic knowledge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was younger, I used to be like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'd write down the lineups on this note pad when I was in middle school and at fifth grade, I would be nuts somewhere along the line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's only so much bandwidth, you know, venture, you run out of space in your head for these names.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I really started like fully getting into the jets, like 2009, 2018.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to watch them before that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, well, this team's pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And little that I know what I was signing up for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I watched them before that, but I wasn't like into them in the invested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I always say that any jet's player that was on the roster from like 2009 that
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[SPEAKER_00]: probably know like I probably know the name right even if they were like a summer tea or a training camp guy like there's a good chance I've heard the name so Bruce Kozli like early 90s with the first ones are a member but I was way too young I think once
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[SPEAKER_01]: coat tight started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely, definitely parcels that run up until Rex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty damn good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for the last 18 years, the details.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when I started covering the team basically since 2015.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The details, I just escape my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's up with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It maybe it's a defense mechanism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might be that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, get a fight back some though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's do let's do predictions before before we get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think on the Wednesday show, I said 28, 20 Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jet fans are nothing if not optimistic, which is funny, because they're also extremely pessimistic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just depends on the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I predicted they would lose the green bay and my co-host Mike Luciano did not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was right about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's some free, you know, my prediction so far this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: said winning week one in Tennessee like that felt pretty fair pretty safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I went win against Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like I thought they could do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean in your like in your defense and in defense of Michael Chano, they should have won that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They should have won.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were the better team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They absolutely should have won that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a class and it's going to mean so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That game, if it doesn't work out for Glenn this year, because it encapsulates the shortcomings, if he doesn't figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's because, like, look, it's hard to be discouraged coming out of the Lions game, because they really did play well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they did kind of, they punched about as well as above, above their weight class, they could have been that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But eventually the moral victories and competitive losses have to turn to wins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't, you look at Aaron Glenn's record, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Four and six, 17, whatever it is, and four and whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you have to start winning some of these games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think this scam again, Chicago and this upcoming stretch is obviously going to be very crucial because they kind of get a few of these wins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can't lose close in every game and be like, oh, we're right there, we're right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you have to, as coaches say this all the time, you have to learn to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And right now, it's the way the juts are trying to learn to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of that is to say, I do think the juts lose this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say 28 to 20 as part of my prediction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I said, and maybe this changes the page and started.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If starts, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Keynam starts the juts or a tougher spot for them to win, because I also, like you mentioned, the blitzing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keynam was in that Eagles game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was like 12 of 12 when Philly blitzed him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't think he's been working with him when they blitzed crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, he's a very smart guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been around the league for five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 years at this point or whatever it is, like his limitations have always been physical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not shocking to me that he can still play the quarterback position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say 28, 20 Jason Sanders misses an extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've still not confident there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they scored three touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're still able to move the ball in the air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a top star for Jalen Johnson and Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the Jets could have some success during the ball even without all the playmakers that they got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think running the ball is still going to be tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be even tougher now at Jordan Meredith, starting a left guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ben Johnson's going to be able to get this defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think much like Detroit, I think they kind of hang in there in the first half, and then the second half, the defense kind of regresses to what you'd expect it to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think Chicago, maybe it's different without the dangerous play, but I'll say 28, 20, what do you say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's completely fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go 24 13.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be a little slower pace than a little lower scoring than we think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And mainly because there's a lot of old school and Ben Johnson, believe it or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though, you know, it's play calling is with the times and modern football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to run the ball and they came out last year and his first year struggling to run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't really get going until week five, week six when they figured it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And whether it's Kingdom or Beijing, that's what he's going to try to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what Glenn's going to try to stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, unlike fan geo who likes to play,
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[SPEAKER_01]: cover seven quarters where he's off with his DB's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep everything in front, Ben, but don't break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Glenn's the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He likes more pressure on the outside on the perimeter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's more conducive in terms of covering.
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[SPEAKER_01]: end in terms of non-Eli quarterbacks because they want to see it open first, especially when you're putting pressure in the box against the run or against the pass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think Chicago's offense won't unless Johnson just completely undresses Glenn, which I have no idea if you will or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he doesn't though, I don't think it's going to be crazy high-scoring for Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, I don't think the jet's offense is going to...
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[SPEAKER_01]: do spectacular things either, and I think there'll be some turnovers on both sides in this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this will be, I haven't called it yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this will be the game where the Jets break their interception.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dread.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a prediction of who is good at?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tavandre's sweat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I can't go sweat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, he was dropping the coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he had a referee dropping the coverage and was the nearest defender to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need to sweat drop it in the cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need barely dropping it in the cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's still going to like there's no way around it in a three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you change your four or three, he's going to have to drop it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just sweat more sweat or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So make it happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sweds nothing to do with three, four, three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just trying to get a little cute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, let's drop our 365 nose tackle, a pal nose tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And and to be your Gibbs is running right across him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, give me the, okay, so the real prediction of who's going to get the pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me the Mario.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a safe pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's Bayesian starting man like that's they could have had one in week one against Cam Ward, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget if they have like any drops there, but like that's a guy you can totally take the ball away from it's a problem is words he's like on the field's level where exact Wilson level where he won't commit too many turnovers because you're afraid to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he wouldn't even take the chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's fans talk to themselves and I've just feels we're going to go back about she's like, oh, he's stats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted herception last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, seven touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think it was something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I told someone, the field's only throwing one pick without bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was almost as crazy as the Jets interception drought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Defensive.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say, you know, I'll be optimistic with you and I'll say they break it as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough because like the corners just are not, they're not the type to take the ball away, neither AZ or Steve and Ziz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they play tight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're present and play and tight, your vision isn't always going to be there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be sticky more, or you're more contact getting your head around late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just the way Glenn plays it, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take one of the safeties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They both play well, belt it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be Ben.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think belt has been awesome to start telling you like, like not even just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, they got him on a basically like a fringe starter deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's been in a bomb average starter for the jats over the last three games of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Cisco's had maybe his two best games of jet for the last two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say Belton, Belton feels like the safe pick there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be shocked if it's Cisco too, just because he can complete that redemption tour for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll say Dane Belton, I'll say they get a pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also will say that Gino throws to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is the first wing we get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get the Gino picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't disagree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't disagree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird with Gino.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, guy who's not afraid of any takes chances, like week one on that first drive where Garrett Wilson drew the deep in by the way Garrett Wilson unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I've been a realistic reporter in terms of covering and breaking down Garrett Wilson talented love the guy, but unlike many others, and I get it fans love them bad situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He commits to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I get it fans crush on me for criticizing Garrett in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing he has been a top five, top 10 receiver this year because it's in traffic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is just tough, tough, like moments and catches that lift the entire offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say enough good things about him, but,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I think he hasn't been as, I don't was he reckless, but as, you know, gunslingerish as he's been in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder how much influence that has come from in terms of Glenn in his mindset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, see how it continues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's probably got to be something with the coaching staff, where it's got just a mentality thing that the staff is is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, giving to their players and and hopefully Detroit's terrible secondary broke them out of it because that's right That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great call about the way it will say I want 100% agree I saw your tweet about that, too, and I won 1000% agree that this is the best version of Garrett, but I've ever seen
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, because like we'd hold not to drag this out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd hold, we'd hold common on the Wednesday show about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like the selling point for him has always been just rare movement skills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the, his body contortion, the way he's able to do it is just, there's not a lot of athletes in the NFL that can move and contort their body in the way that Garrett does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's six foot, 180 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not your march ace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's never been like a box out of defender, make consistent, tough contested catches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There have been times in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say drop, but hasn't come down with tough catches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that that Rogers fans continue to point to where we're garrett kind of sold them on on a it was down to the left side line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget even one game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the tip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're the defender tipped it and it got off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That one, which I mean, fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that one's a straight drop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just a straight drop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just a straight drop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could put a, you could put that on Garrett wanting more expecting more, but I think we're others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when Devante came here,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the fun day was the better receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But look at what he's doing now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like with no pooca.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's dominant still at his age, but this year Garrett, all the flowers in the world, he's been that good 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is the best version of Gary Wilson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll say we'll both say a jet loss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully we're both wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the jet surprises us in their two and two going into week five, and we could feel pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a powerhouse Cleveland brands, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, apparently so, one and three just sounds a lot worse than two and two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Robby, I appreciate you joining me on the show today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can follow Robby or I'll say this, promote your stuff first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to go through my normal outro, but it's the Friday show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just go to JetsXFactor.com and check out all the writers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, welcome back to Jetpress podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My name is Justin Fried and joining me for this week's episode of TJP Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it is the man himself?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know him from his work over at Jets X-Factor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Robby Sabo Robby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going on my friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's out, Justin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's talk Jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's on your mind?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's plenty of things to talk about so I hear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: this team never gives us a shortage of things to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's always plenty of discourse going on and you know when to talk about some of the hot topic items, I guess, on jet social media right now and jet circles and also, we'll preview bears a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get into that and actually talk about hey man, could this, could this team meet team be two and two, go into that Browns matchup and can we start to dream of three and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, oh, wow, we got the Patriots coming up after that, and Drake may's looking bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, I'm going to head of ourselves, but we could start to dream at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we get into that bear's matchup, I do want to talk to you about a few, again, of the trending topics in Jet Circles right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, I gave you a heads up before the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to start with David Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know this one is a specifically, you know, you have,
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[SPEAKER_00]: plenty of opinions about David Bailey and I'll say this because this is not meant to be a gacha.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also was in the the R. V. Reese camp before the the draft that's who I prefer the Jets and Taken Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a really interesting start to David Bailey's NFL career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have the numbers here, you know, two sacks, ten pressures, four run stops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the numbers don't look bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 64.8 PFF grade, whatever you stock you put into that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Run defense grade, actually pretty solid, pass first grade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what's been a little interesting I think about Bailey is that he's exceeded expectations for me at least as a run defender I think he's been very disciplined in the run game He's obviously making the hustle plays which we knew the motor ran hot with him That's not that's not shocking I think he's exceeded expectations in that regard
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a past Russia, you are seeing some of the limitations that people thought he had coming out of Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The lack of Ben has been a very hot topic on conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What have been your thoughts on David Bailey's performance through the first three weeks of the season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, well, number one, what he did him any favors during August, they, the expectations reached an astronaut level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I get it, it's natural, because everyone's reporting on what they're seeing at practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And while all the veterans on the beat, they do a tremendous job, but the fans and the stands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: things go crazy and you know expectations go nuts especially for a top five pick number two Bailey especially and quickness the promise is quickness translates in practice but power and physicality just does not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And since the 2012 CBA, these practices aren't football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something different in practice and in camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the expectations really put him in a bad spot because everyone's expecting this dominant pass for our show from the get-go, but it's just not going to be the case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when offensive tackles get their hands in on him, it's tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the PFF grades look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: stats, PFF, I respect them in this regard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They try to grade, they try to get to the end result that is the overall result, the overall package, as opposed to just cherry picking stats, like in my mind, pastoral stats are really, really misleading, especially the pressures.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where you, what was week one, six pressures for them against Tennessee?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, different databases out in with different, I think, I think, I think next year in sports, I'm at 6 p.m. with four or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make sense, I think it might have been two, some people had them at two, and then one, next gen does GPS, so they don't count leverage, they don't count certain things on the football field, it's just dots on a screen, is he within this
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[SPEAKER_01]: that should never be looked at even sacks, you know, that second week one week two he made a nice play and more so it was a nice check at the at the line where the packers weren't a twins look brought the outside receiver in into a stack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see the Mario pointing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hey, hey, hey, watch out for this watch out for this tomorrow, Bailey looking at the Mario and Bailey knew right away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They worked on and practiced if they motion in and this look, look for the swing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look for the whatever it was bubble or receiver and he went right downhill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dunbar and Glen are doing a good job with Baylor that trying to keep him on track.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought week one was Godawful because he was chaotic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was down hill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was just trying to willude and he was getting out of his lane and he was, like you said, his motor's always fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Backside, chase down if he's in position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the run game, it's going to be a positive if he's guessing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the for people trying to fin belly right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to point to in week three with those two plays he made on the last drive and the second of last drive where he guessed well one of them he guessed inside and caught the running back from behind on the backside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one before that he kind of played the edge in a traditionally nice way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't looked at that play yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to watch it on film and then kind of disengage and got him for a tackle a yard loss or no gain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He came up big when his team needed him the most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not hearing anyone saying that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all the pro, pro, pro Billy guys out there, they're not bringing that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what they should bring up as opposed to just saying wait and see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everyone knew my thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: not subtle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Avril Reese was the better player by far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the NFL is becoming more positionless as the years go on, especially defensively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think passing is becoming quicker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's quicker time to throw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, pass rushing is more of a team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: element now a team structure as opposed to one on one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a Reggie White Kevin Green go get him because those were longer developing passes and you didn't have mobile quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today is more team oriented.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought Reese especially in the three four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he's the perfect outside edge outside linebacker in a three four with an edge he could drop he could pass her as she could play the edge Bailey guess what he's going to keep dropping and i know fans don't like that i don't like that he shouldn't drop he's a password sure purely um but it's going to keep happening so look i want to reach two but no way i'm going to crush Bailey three games into into his career he's got a
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[SPEAKER_01]: they just got to keep on that track of getting them used to the NFL and some of the things he has to do that he was never asked to do at Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, and I'm glad you brought up the the team pass rush aspect of this because I think that's something that often gets very overlooked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The play that keeps making the rounds this week is the the Jared golf to Isaac to slow 49 yards right where Bailey is able to kind of get there, but he doesn't quite get home before golf,
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[SPEAKER_00]: really doesn't have any pass rush to correct like Joann Briggs is probably the best that they got there and he's a guy that they brought over from Cleveland where the Rapp on him was like, oh, he's he's a good run defender where maybe you know there's some pass rush upside But he's exceeded expectations of the pass rush or bad side of that like on that play I'm pretty sure it was Harrison Philips rushing to pass He gets completely wiped out by the left guard
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's either sweater brigs as the other D tackle and neither of them, whoever that was ain't up a double team, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can get any sort of an interior push there and really that's probably on Phillips because he's got the 101 matchup and he's just, she's not something he does, his win pass rush reps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you got in some sort of interior push, then golf isn't able to step up in the pocket in the way that he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if that's the case,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the lack of Ben from Bailey on that play in just in general is a lot less noticeable and he probably gets home and he probably gets the sack and then all the credits going to Bailey whereas like oh the the interior that defensive line is going to get on notice there but they're probably the ones that help make that happen it's a bad combination I think of Bailey Skullset with what the jets are working with on the interior.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and that was another shocker to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like three, four, it's going to go three, four, going Bailey over Reese's just stunning, stunning to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it, but you're so right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Defense is the variability and uniqueness each week in terms of putting together a defense of gameplay and is massive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Week one, what was the only thing that worked for Tennessee?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially early, cam award.
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[SPEAKER_01]: escaping the pocket and using his legs, and that's Brian Dable's influence, and that worked on the first drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It worked, I think, at a third quarter, early in a third quarter as well, it's why McGregor was graded so much better in terms of against Bailey or anyone else on the D-line, because McGregor, when you see him pass rush,
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[SPEAKER_01]: he stays in the lane, he uses power, he squeezes it, he pinches it, and he did wonders for the jet defense because that is what they needed against Cam Morton Tennessee, and Glenn and the jet's new, hey, let's just not be responsible in the past rush, let's keep it tight and let's squeeze it because we know this quarterback is so bad, as long as we don't let him escape the pocket and find room and make plays down the field break and you know, be like like mad and like play
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll win the game because he can't beat us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, it's, everything's different and Detroit, what was most important was stopping off from stepping up, like, uh, all the old Jets fans know Tom Brady when was he mostly the only stepped up delivered the ball, um, with momentum going forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the interior, you, you need, they don't have interior juice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing is if you're three four, you're more of a red react system, so the
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[SPEAKER_01]: explode downhill like sala interior still which is more attack react out of even looks for three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to adjust that mindset more on passing downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think at the end of the day, you got up the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't stop the run, you won't get to the quarterback because you won't get those opportunities to Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the numbers didn't look overwhelming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was 99 for Gibbs about 130 overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you take out guffs for for six, I think it was it's close to five yards
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't look crazy overwhelming, but it is because it gives us along with 17.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was just consistent to start that second half over and over and over again, just bullying them and pushing them back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when that happens, you're never going to get a consistent password.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're never going to get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of different angles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to figure out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to be imperative as we talk later about this bear's matchup, because bear's team runs the ball better than almost any team in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, as it's today, DeAndrey Swift just popped up in the end of your report with the, I think it was in Ditty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's, he got my name guy in a couple fantasy leagues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I mean, that's, that's big for you, he did not practice today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, that's going to be one to keep an eye on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, on the, the Bailey thing one last thing, because I think there was this, this is really interesting chart that I want to pull up here that I think, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: shows a lot of kind of Bailey's current limitations as a player does a couple of columns here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is first just showing the top 20 pressure leaders in the NFL right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Dallas Turner who's kicking ass right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Start this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see Bailey's here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got 14.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At least this is by I think NFL pros tracking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have him 14 here, but the column that keep an eye on here is TTP, which is time to pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his time to pressure, David Bailey is 3.49.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which is significantly higher than anybody else in this list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second eyes, I think it's 3.17.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It explains this to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's had more time to get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So basically it's 3.49.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that's his average time to pressure on those 14 pressures.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the only other guy like the next closest guy is Jeffrey Simmons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: interior guy where you'd expect an interior guy to take a little bit longer with those pressure sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So 3.49 significantly hard in anyone else, but there's another column that I think is interesting too, the get-off column, which basically, that's how they're measuring your first step, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: 0.75 is David Bailey's, which is the second highest of any player in this list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you still, you're basically, this is like David Bailey in a nutshell, the quick first step is still there, which we knew that at Texas Tech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the time to pressure, it's taken him forever to get these pressures, which signifies that or indicates that these are covered pressures, these are, you know, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're their hustle plays by Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not exactly him just winning one on one reps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's kind of just indicative of his game overall right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really not winning a ton of one on one reps, because, you know, the lack of band or whatever you want to say, I think he also just doesn't have
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[SPEAKER_00]: is super refined password arsenal like he doesn't really have like if he had a will McDonald's been moved right now or some sort of counter that he can you know counter inside he doesn't really have that in his arsenal and it's in his this is third and a okay right so that's not something to kill the guy over it's just pointing to like here are areas that he can improve and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know jet fans are going to sound the alarms on this and be like, they drafted an edge rush or second overall with no band, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's context to it, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, I know you were a big res guy just overall was not a good draft class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that's point has been said to nausea and nausea at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in a normal draft class, like this, if David Bailey's an issue is class, I don't know if he's a top eight pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's going to be a lot of blue chip talents and premium positions this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just, they're just wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's unfair to hold Bailey to those expectations of like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: is he going to be a mile's Garrett like no he's never going to be that he does not have the the bend to be a mile's meridies and no I mean very few players and then if the history or a freaky is Garrett is but I do still think he can be a really effective NFL player I think he needs to develop that past rush arsenal
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, you know, Carl Dunbar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to go to teach him up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Aaron Glenn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the rest of this defense of staff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got to work with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a smart guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're at the Stanford.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I totally think that's something he could do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's still in his third NFL game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that stuff needs to get added to his game because right now it feels like tackles are kind of just oversetting against them and trying to force him to go to go wide with speed or he's he's been trying to win with power as well a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he doesn't fully have that in his game at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that he doesn't have like a kind of inside counter move, I think it's making life very easy for the stack goals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like we mentioned, the interior pass rush is not getting any push either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes it even easier to kind of wipe them out of the play and just go wide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think this chart kind of shows a lot of that about the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you look at the film week one versus week two in three are drastically different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the way it goes with the jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way it goes in the NFL, not individually, but team-wise, too, because you got something on tape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's just, he does, he's a finesse, a dude player and he doesn't win with power.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even in the run game too, there's instances when he just gets, he just gets bullied and moved and pushed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of it comes down to, when I look at a player and I'm evaluating, I go, okay, how many ways can this guy impact a game?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, and how many ways can he win?
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[SPEAKER_01]: on a play that impacts the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I look at a guy like Bailey, I see he's a cuby hunter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't really want him moving laterally, so that's not good for 101 tackling, solo tackling space, and he's a finesse guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes around, he goes around blocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a finesse winner, Reese, finesse wins with power.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He could play in space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it just basically came down to that to me and the way the NFL is these days, but with Bailey week one, he was hectic, he was all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was at a control and it was really, really bad, but Tennessee was worse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kim Ward was worse and I think since that film room after week one, Glenn and Dumbar have gotten him on the back
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[SPEAKER_01]: in terms of being more responsible and disciplined.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I see some promising stuff there, but he only makes not only, almost all of his plays in the run game are made when there's action put on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you say, okay, go ahead and slant inside, guess inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he has to win the get off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has to time the snap to make it happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everyone loves his first step and his quickness and no doubt he's quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's his game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you take away the get-off in the timing of the snap, I would say Reese's quicker, Reese's quicker than Bailey from A to B.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that get-off that timing of the snap where he's a master at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he doesn't get that down, it doesn't run action inside, outside, instead of playing it straight up with the blocker, very little success.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem is if you can't run action on every play, because it's high risk, high reward, it's just, you gotta play it straight up sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the biggest issue right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about another Jets rookie who probably even more positive things to say about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the biggest takeaway for a lot of Jets fans coming out of that Sunday lost to the Lions, which tough loss, they fought hard and, you know, they were down 14 at a point and going to the right mindset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The game plan was right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They came out with the right mindset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the most encouraging takeaway, at least for me, coming out of that game, was the emergence of Kenyan City.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because this is a guy who obviously a lot of people had tempered expectations for coming into 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he misses the whole summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does not get the practice because of the the hernius surgery, the recovery from that was already kind of unrefined player coming out of Oregon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think there was there was a lot of
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[SPEAKER_00]: athletic and raw athleticism and natural talent, but he needed a little bit of seasoning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of times, I know we've been spoiled a little bit recently with guys like Tyler Warren and Colston Lovelin coming into the league and immediately producing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it's changing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Harold Fanon too, like maybe it's changing, but historically the tight end position has been one that it takes a few years to kind of find your footing sometimes, especially with a player like Steve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think a lot of people expected like going into the year, maybe the first few weeks, first couple of months of the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take him a bit of time to get more involved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: clearly made it a point of emphasis to get this guy involved as much as he could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Went away from that a bit in week two, but then week three, no add an imitial, no mason tell, no arm or group or mercury junior, they are forced to get him involved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did, and he rewarded them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 7 catches 105 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: perfect 150 8.3 pass rating when target of course you had that leaping touchdown into the ad zone, which I mean, that was probably the best play I've seen by a giant end in my lifetime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the bar is a very low for that, but is still true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the first jet's tight end with 100 yards in a game since Ryan Griffin of all players in 2019.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and only the the second jet's tight ends since 2011 with a hundred plus yards in the game, the other one was dust the color.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this franchise has been starved for dynamic tight end play like this for a very, very long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the question I'll ask you here is
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously we'll find out more in the coming weeks, and especially this week, no Mason Taylor, again, no Mark Cooper, Jr. No Adity Mitchell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to continue to be thrust into this role, whether he's ready for it or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you kind of recalibrated your expectations for what I guess I could ask you first, what were your expectations for Sidney?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And after seeing what he did on Sunday, have you kind of recalibrated your expectations of what he might do as a rookie?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when the draft happens,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wasn't subtle about who I wanted it to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also said, I wouldn't have taken Sadeek.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have taken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted I only that the lineman who I'm sure, but I would take him a car lemon not sedicat at 16.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was a big Macay lemon fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now this out that was nowhere near the level of number two like sedicats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, I understand it, but he's raw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know he's going to fit into the the run game, which is flying under the radar right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he hasn't been a good rum blocker, which is kind of lost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and it's really hurting
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's unbelievable, and he just has to stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has to stay healthy, and he has to figure out the run game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he does that, my goodness, it was the right pick all the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kudos to Frank Wright, Kudos to the Jets organization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they got a game involved, they have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if Cooper and AD are out, I'm shocked, they didn't use a more and receiver type roles, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Mason Taylor was also missing, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're really struggling to run the ball and you want to run the ball and I don't know, Jellani struggled to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're kind of catch 22.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You really don't have another body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe back could go in line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, just keep hammering it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep getting them involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get him the ball, him and Garrett, and then away you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to, you have to force feed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just got to get something going in the run game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you're going to do it with him involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's forced to be that second pass catcher in his offense right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have no one else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that he was able to fill that role as quickly as he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it speaks to one his maturity and his intelligence level as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we knew the physical talent was there, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you heard coaches speak so highly of his maturity and his ability to adapt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, the fact that he's done that in his third NFL game, despite not having a summer to practice at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's extremely encouraging and and get you very excited when you're thinking about like if this is a good he is now in the in game three what is he by year three you know like could he be it's up five tight in the NFL I think absolutely I think he has the ceiling for that whether he will reach that cylinder not it's going to take consistency is going to take time obviously he needs to get better just Is a awareness in the run game again it feels like he's a little lost out there sometimes Yeah, the tough part the tough part is
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[SPEAKER_01]: big trying to put him in positions where he's just reacting and playing as opposed to thinking and that is almost impossible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like an impossible task, but right is trying, he's trying his hardest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's the area where his, his impact right now, especially with no 80 Mitchell has felt is they have, he can attack vertically and there is nobody else, they don't really use Garrett Wilson that way, at least they haven't for the first three games, they really haven't used him to attack vertically, they have a guy in Kenya city that I mean that touchdown pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just how many times we wanted to see a jet site in attack to seem like that and just just
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what he did at Oregon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was an acute B to be unafraid to throw it, 100% and I think that game is well went a long way for Gino kind of gaining that confidence in CD.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a couple of catches, not even just that touch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the other one he made, where it's like, that's a tough grab.
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[SPEAKER_00]: right like that's not just like a little little five yard hitch right rid of right in his chest like now he was making plays and he was rewarding Gino for trusting him and you hope that not only you know with with the guys out with 80 Mitchell and Cooper and Taylor out but even when those guys are back that Gino remembers that and continues to trust city because the dynamic ability that he has in the receiving game in this past in game like it really really opens up so much for the
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[SPEAKER_00]: that that's a two score Detroit win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they were absolutely screwed because they had nothing behind it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did not so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really good point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he's sterling shepherd running routes, Malique McClellan, like these guys are not going to be thrown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, but hey, good catch by sterling on the two point or do you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: almost was a little too late, but he threw up behind him and it was very catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Sidique, Loki, should have had another, or we know it was the two point tries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Sidique should have had that two point try the first one where Gino just missed him in the back of the end zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was kind of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, I got to let's that again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure on that first two point try the failed one City is kind of wide open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what genos or progressions were on that play, but City was there and he just he didn't see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got his hands up and pretty sure and he just kind of didn't see him So it should have been even even bigger game for can you see but I'm very excited about what we could see from the rest of the season you bring up genome Yeah, because you know, I think there were
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, again, tempered expectations for Gino coming into the season because the question was again how much he has left and how much of 2025 was because of his situation and I know we brought on Levi Dombro runs our Raiders side of big Raiders guys, you know, watches every single snap that they play and he was
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[SPEAKER_00]: how much of his struggles last year were because of a toxic situation because the online was a disgrace, the coaching was a mess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like everything about that's rock-bowers gets hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got their feet thrown in the nobody, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's throw after they trade, you call it, we might as thrown absolutely nobody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like how much of it is physical decline and how much of it is just the toxic situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think through the first three games of this season, like you know, I have the stat here about his performance on Sunday, I use the first jet score to back in history and the little cherry fixed stats here,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, listen, supports my agenda.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's OK. Yeah, it was the first quarter back in February.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Use the first quarter like Jet's history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Throw for 300 more yards in a game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three or more touchdowns, no interceptions, and complete 83 or more percent of his passes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You went 31 to 37, 321 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He currently leads the NFL in both completion percentage and completion percentage over expected.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he is exceeding even the loftiest of expectations that people had for Gino coming into this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: how much of this thing you think is fool's gold and we're kind of just waiting for the other shoot-a-fall and he's going to have these stinkers and he's going to progress or you know how much of it you think is he's just kind of legit like this has just been a legit you know you know it's been a really good three-game stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You said the Raiders fan base doesn't like him at that he signal to them that they're number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's somewhere in the middle because
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Jett's defense was, you know, ranked extremely high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With a number one in the league after two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were there currently still, too, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still two yards, a lot of yards was it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the context is everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tennessee might be the worst team in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kim Moore, it's just my goodness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a mess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God bless you, solemn table.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you guys are gonna do, but, you know, in fairness to Kim Moore, it's solid brings that on his coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, aren't his quarterbacks and a lot of ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: plays with game flow and game plans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The quarterbacks gets a little shire because they don't want to turn the ball over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I firmly believe that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everything Drake does, everything the OC or DC does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fundals from the head coach that vision that's that expectation that's set and the same thing goes with right under Glenn So when I say right if I credit right for having a good game or or criticize and for having a bad game It falls under Glenn still and they came out in this Detroit game and
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[SPEAKER_01]: did the right thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have easily tried to do the wrong thing, play conservative field possession ball, but they didn't, they came out throwing, they thought Detroit would be aggressive based on Green Bay, what Green Bay did the week before and again and was absurdly aggressive against the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the old line had no chance, the old line wasn't good, and it hasn't been good, the last two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: two things can be true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't good and they also were up against it in terms of odds because the run blitzing was just outrageous on early downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the just came out to the right thing, they passed the ball, they tried to move it in the air first, make Detroit think about, think twice about their game plan being so aggressive, and Detroit, the more the stories, Detroit's secondary isn't Shambles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you know, I love what Gino's done, but I think we have to temper expectations a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As long as Glenn sticks to that type of attitude in mindset, what we saw in Detroit in terms of the game plan, Gino could have a nice year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could have a nice year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my cat has decided to join us right as a talk there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I'm still waiting for that classic genosmith's thinker game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I do feel like it's coming at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Chicago feels like not to like speak anything to new existence here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago feels like a prime opportunity for the possible to defense that takes the ball away a lot, even, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: changing the defense of staff, they still say I take it all away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Gets D just they cannot let Chuy goes off and said jump on them too because that will need more to genome stakes and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough, because this Jets defense is so, and it's a lot better and better coached and more disciplined than it was a year ago, but it's just so not threatening to face, because there's really, there's not a lot of fear of turning the ball over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The past rush is not getting home with the front four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like it's an easier defense to game plan against, which sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who you're saying that last year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's better than it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have more talent, first of all, that helps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also think they're better coach, but,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's, here's the real sin so far I see this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Deach, uh, Green Bay, the green, the green big game starts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything is going the judge's way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Penalties are being thrown left and right on Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jaden Reed goes down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the starting right tackle goes down early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then another offensive line goes down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were in shambles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw what Atlanta did to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yet,
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[SPEAKER_01]: their first touchdown, the Martian Lloyd screen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a long drive when which the floor just said, okay, we're going to pound the ball and they pound the ball on the justice defense and ran down their throats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the stats don't look that bad in terms of run D, but it's so much more it's so much worse than the stats and the context Tennessee hadn't was no threat offensively
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got to stop the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to stop the run first and foremost, and they just haven't been able to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're really getting owned in the trenches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we could applaud Glenn's mindset doing the right thing against the game against the opponent with Detroit in week three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're going to get manhandled like this, you have no chance to do anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's talk about the offense a lot and you mentioned getting man-handled in the trenches the last two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Lee for the majority of the Packers game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the offensive line at least passed blocking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Runblocking is a whole different story right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But past production I thought was pretty damn good for most of that Packers game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it fell apart late in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But really the last two weeks since Tennessee the run blocking has been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: awful, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And no, everyone's picking on like I have the old who stats here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All who had a bad, a bad week three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously Rex went went scorched earth on on five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was just very emotional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know how Rex gets about the chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he just.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he went into that thinking he was going to have an older fashion event in him and then he just was like, this is the guy who was bad this week and I'm going to go out of him, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's kind of just happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it just came out of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the run blocking specifically is what I want to ask you back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you know, whatever, although at a bad game, member would have bad way to it happens, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Young tackles, they're still growing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not super concerned about them long-term as part of the past protection.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The run block is a bit of mess the last two weeks, and I think there's a lot of reasons for it, but I really want to get your thoughts on that because, you know, some of it is, yeah, look, their center is not very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh Myers is not good, and unfortunately now having Jordan Meredith starting next to the mid-left card is going to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be a tougher to overcome because they already couldn't really run the ball the last two weeks with parmen the lineup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you put another weak link on the offensive line, a guy in Meredith who's not overwhelmingly powerful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess been that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they missed Mason's hailer last week too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're also missing gets under disgust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're missing Omar Cooper Jr. And Adeline Mitchell, because those guys are better blot like Isaiah Williams is five ten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he tries his heart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he has milled rockers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of motors, his motor is great as a blocker, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what a staff loves him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they trust him as a blocker, probably more than they should, because like he just fizzies 510 a buck 80, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's only so much he could do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have to start like shepherd out there blocking and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's it's I think all of that combines to what we've seen from the run block in the last couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it may be some of it's scheme too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think honestly, that's more of a question for you than I.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what do you think the issues have been with this run game?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And why why the run block has been so poor in his last two weeks?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's been a combination, everything, game plan number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you watch the Packers game, Jonathan Ganon, it in a lot of ways, the more watch it, the more it reminds me of week two last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Buffalo and the results are completely different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Buffalo, crush them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think 30 to 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just should have be Green Bay, but they didn't in gay management doomed them at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they never took that shop deep when they had the chance many times when Green Bay was just given it to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like McDermott last year, Gannon said, all right, I'm just going to run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to put pressure on the B on the A and just fill those gaps early and
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[SPEAKER_01]: on first down on second down on all balanced rush first down's and dare the jets to beat me over the top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And until they adjust, I'm going to keep doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to keep doing it, I'm going to keep doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it wore down the line at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for indecisive backs, Breeze Hall glends coach this out of him a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he used to dance a lot more than he does now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, he tried to get it to these guys dance and look for the home run and they look to try to
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I get it because usually losing your in a bad situation, trying to hit the home run, sometimes you just have to get that three dirty yards instead of dancing, trying to look for a hundred yards, but losing three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So all those factors, together, Myers has been rough short.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The tight end blocking is a major major issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Dic and Jelani Woods, even a
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that they're running a lot of get stuff right now, not zone and the old line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know is either a really small group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you have any info on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they're smaller, big compared to the rest of the league, but I know this other than Membo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll throw the defense in there too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other than Membo and Ignore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe tippin' at times a little bit in the Mario filling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of these trench players are finesse softer guys in terms of mentality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something I don't know how they're going to fix or address.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could be fine if everything else is good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's something that you really got to overcome and kind of flip and switch if the other things aren't good, which they haven't been the game plan and the defense really run blitzing a lot and briefs not being decisive in the tight end blocking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I doubt right changes it up and starts wanting wide zones on every play, but they got to do something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to figure out something and maybe the secret really is G, you know, in the passing game to start it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because people are asking them to do a lot more play action because they've kind of gone away from that a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The run game's got to work for them to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they got to actually be able to run the ball effectively.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, what's the point, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not fooling anybody at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this is a little bit of a stretch, but I think having a Isaiah Davis gets some carriers going to help with the Isaiah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I say Davis is a very underrated football player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said going into the summer, not to make this like an anti-brainer Alan thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought I'd say Davis was a better football player overall than Alan is a lot more physically gifted than Davis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you talk about a guy who's not afraid to get the three or four dirty yards like that's like Davis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be dancing around back there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's athletically limited in what he could do, especially when you compare him to Brainer Alan and Bryce Hall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he can help the running game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's someone that they should be playing even when braces back and healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think I say, they should have a role in offense, even if it's five to 10 snaps, you know, nothing more than that again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think he provides value there that they're not really getting from their other backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I also think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they should place a deek more as the third receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it takes him out of the blocking scheme in line, it puts him as a power slot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what if the corner's covered him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still fast enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A quick enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it hurts your matchups, but these days, against 12 personnel, 13 personnel, a lot of defense are playing three safeties anyway, big nickel, the judge certainly do it a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that matchup is neutralized.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a lesser evil than having a deek in line as part of an important part of the blocking scheme.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... gets a deep out there and let him play some receiver i agree and let's talk bears now real quick you mentioned before the jets have to stop the run to just win in the NFL you gotta do that but especially this week against the Chicago bears rushing team or team that they are the best running team in the NFL i should have are they through three weeks they are the best running team let me move us over there there we go should end up before
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... they're number one rush stamps number rushing yards and one of the yards per attempt second rushing touchdowns and tenth in rushing EPA uh... like we mentioned before deandry so it did not practice work recording us on Thursday the under so it's a not practice today so we'll see what's going on there what's his injury do you know i think it was a knee
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I, I saw it right before we started recording, so I don't give people an idea of exactly when we were recording this, uh, let me see it was a knee injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a knee injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, that's something to monitor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's definitely not not not nothing there and is a, as a, if you're a Kyle, but none guy fantasy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You like to hear that, but this bear's Russian team, they run now out of the ball and they do it very effectively and it's not just because of their backs like obviously the underswip I think is is a very, very quality rotational back and common on guy you talk about a guy who's not afraid to get the dirty three yards see I love common on guy and the way that he runs the ball he is fun to watch, all those runners backs I feel like her own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say up a check-o like they got another guy there right now Raymond Antoine Raymond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think his name is who runs most of the early He's gonna be another like monogypa check-o that goes in like the sixth round and everyone's like oh, he's actually an NFL player What happened here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's not even just the running backs like the old line They have a nastyness to them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Darnell Wright.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is
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[SPEAKER_00]: one, maybe these are top five run blocking tackle in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, I mean, that may be underselling him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's awesome in the run game, and then they got the tight ends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, constant love on Colcomet is one of the best tight end doers in the NFL, and they draft the Sam Rao show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Baris fans have been down on for whatever reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a couple like penalties or whatever that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: now they're like he sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the worst NFL player ever because that's how that's how it goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, they use a ton of 12 and 13 personnel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have those heavy formations and they are able to run it down your throats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And going into this game, I think that's probably going to be one of the biggest points of emphasis for this jet staff is we have to stop this run game, especially no Caleb Williams, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know we still we presume no Caleb Williams technically not rolled out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But is Bayesian on the injury for no, he's healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be either Bayesian or Keynam and Ben Johnson has said that he will not announce a starting quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will find out, which is the right way to play it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I look, I mean, there's a separate plane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you don't stick with him after what he just did on Sunday, but it feels a little bit like I think that I think the vibe coming out of Chicago is that he's leaning Beijing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what's going to happen to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's one of those things where it's like there was no QB competition to summer page and was definitively QB to they really like him in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they want to just like not let him start because he got hurt which sucks, you know, it's whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a Jets fan, I would prefer, I would prefer to face patient in this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, Ben Johnson, I love him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I rared to bat him before he got the job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kooby Act, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God bless Raiders fans and lucky sons of bitches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I love Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's perfect for today's NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, live these coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Separate point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2005.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Glenn may have been a better head coach than Ben Johnson because based on that game, you could play field position, you could play defense first, you could do a lot of those things that matter a lot more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Andy Reed back in the day, he was past first, would get criticized all the time for passing too much on 3rd and 2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The league, the rules caught up to Reed, as opposed to the other way around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, Ben Johnson came along at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He merged at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's great, but if he does have a flaw, sometimes he overthinks
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw that in the Detroit playoff game where they lose in the divisional, I think, right, they're last year together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was run was strange, way he laid out the play calling that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were running trick plays really early, and it wasn't working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the trick plays look great when they work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They look foolish when they
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[SPEAKER_01]: and you need the foundation to be there for trick plays to work and they couldn't get the foundation going against Washington enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe you ever thinks it and it goes the jet's way and he goes with Beijing because he's thinking, okay, Kingdom, I got away with one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This dude's old, he hasn't played since Abraham Lincoln was president.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I got away with one, he shouldn't be playing and this film now, there's tape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, he knows Aaron Glenn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Glenn knows him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he thinks Beijing is the right move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And knowing Ben Johnson, knowing a crafty and sneaky is kind of lean towards Beijing right now to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they go with Beijing too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as a jet fan like watching, I think,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you get a base level of competency with Kenom that I'm not confident you're going to get with Agent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Magency, young QB, he's got to be more prone to mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're more likely to get a agent game where it turns ball over two or three times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do our a key name game, and that's going to benefit the Jets because they need to win every battle in the margins that they can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they can win the turn over battle in this game, they absolutely have a chance to steal it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think with Kenom, Kenom's the safer approach, and a game like this, I feel like Chicago just needs to go safer with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're probably leaning Beijing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they think they go in that direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm Glenn, it's a different seat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know he blitzed a lot, especially in the second half Glenn against Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But even though he blitzed, he still kind of played it safe on the back end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of too high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was kind of, I think his game plan was, all right, I know Campbell, I know Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could run the ball and not going to let them run the ball, but I'm going
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't want to give everybody a chunk place and I'm going to gamble that they get in patient and they start throwing the ball when they shouldn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even though Detroit coulda ran the ball even more, I think it was 33 to 30 runs to passes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was his game plan, just be patient, they're going to start throwing and start throwing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: different against Ben Johnson and Chicago because of the quarterback situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's going to be ultra aggressive with Minka playing if he does play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is, he won't be going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said he's playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said he said it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Minka's going to be hanging around the line of skirmish as a lineback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to play so much big nickel and they're going to be so aggressive against the run on early downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the game plan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just have to be careful because Ben Johnson will
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[SPEAKER_01]: try to sneak a few, sneak a few over the top stuff, funnily downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's, that's going to be the goal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to be careful of a jet's legend, Khalif Raymond, who is apparently, why'd receiver one in Chicago now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even tell you that I remember him being on the jets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, I think it was 2017, when they were, remember when they were just, this was pre-ondri-roverts, and they were cycling through a bunch of just
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[SPEAKER_00]: scrub were turners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, notice respect, Kalee Bramon is made 12-year career, whatever it is now, 10-year career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have like Jojo Natsin, like, these are deep holes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm not sure if you're going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're killing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have like a weird fixation with an encyclopedic knowledge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was younger, I used to be like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'd write down the lineups on this note pad when I was in middle school and at fifth grade, I would be nuts somewhere along the line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's only so much bandwidth, you know, venture, you run out of space in your head for these names.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I really started like fully getting into the jets, like 2009, 2018.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to watch them before that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, well, this team's pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And little that I know what I was signing up for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I watched them before that, but I wasn't like into them in the invested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I always say that any jet's player that was on the roster from like 2009 that
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[SPEAKER_00]: probably know like I probably know the name right even if they were like a summer tea or a training camp guy like there's a good chance I've heard the name so Bruce Kozli like early 90s with the first ones are a member but I was way too young I think once
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[SPEAKER_01]: coat tight started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely, definitely parcels that run up until Rex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty damn good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for the last 18 years, the details.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when I started covering the team basically since 2015.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The details, I just escape my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's up with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It maybe it's a defense mechanism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might be that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, get a fight back some though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's do let's do predictions before before we get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think on the Wednesday show, I said 28, 20 Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jet fans are nothing if not optimistic, which is funny, because they're also extremely pessimistic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just depends on the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I predicted they would lose the green bay and my co-host Mike Luciano did not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was right about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's some free, you know, my prediction so far this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: said winning week one in Tennessee like that felt pretty fair pretty safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I went win against Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like I thought they could do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean in your like in your defense and in defense of Michael Chano, they should have won that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They should have won.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were the better team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They absolutely should have won that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a class and it's going to mean so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That game, if it doesn't work out for Glenn this year, because it encapsulates the shortcomings, if he doesn't figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's because, like, look, it's hard to be discouraged coming out of the Lions game, because they really did play well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they did kind of, they punched about as well as above, above their weight class, they could have been that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But eventually the moral victories and competitive losses have to turn to wins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't, you look at Aaron Glenn's record, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Four and six, 17, whatever it is, and four and whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you have to start winning some of these games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think this scam again, Chicago and this upcoming stretch is obviously going to be very crucial because they kind of get a few of these wins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can't lose close in every game and be like, oh, we're right there, we're right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you have to, as coaches say this all the time, you have to learn to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And right now, it's the way the juts are trying to learn to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of that is to say, I do think the juts lose this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say 28 to 20 as part of my prediction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I said, and maybe this changes the page and started.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If starts, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Keynam starts the juts or a tougher spot for them to win, because I also, like you mentioned, the blitzing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keynam was in that Eagles game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was like 12 of 12 when Philly blitzed him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't think he's been working with him when they blitzed crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, he's a very smart guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been around the league for five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 years at this point or whatever it is, like his limitations have always been physical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not shocking to me that he can still play the quarterback position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say 28, 20 Jason Sanders misses an extra point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've still not confident there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they scored three touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're still able to move the ball in the air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a top star for Jalen Johnson and Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the Jets could have some success during the ball even without all the playmakers that they got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think running the ball is still going to be tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be even tougher now at Jordan Meredith, starting a left guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ben Johnson's going to be able to get this defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think much like Detroit, I think they kind of hang in there in the first half, and then the second half, the defense kind of regresses to what you'd expect it to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think Chicago, maybe it's different without the dangerous play, but I'll say 28, 20, what do you say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's completely fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go 24 13.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be a little slower pace than a little lower scoring than we think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And mainly because there's a lot of old school and Ben Johnson, believe it or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though, you know, it's play calling is with the times and modern football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to run the ball and they came out last year and his first year struggling to run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't really get going until week five, week six when they figured it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And whether it's Kingdom or Beijing, that's what he's going to try to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what Glenn's going to try to stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, unlike fan geo who likes to play,
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[SPEAKER_01]: cover seven quarters where he's off with his DB's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep everything in front, Ben, but don't break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Glenn's the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He likes more pressure on the outside on the perimeter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's more conducive in terms of covering.
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[SPEAKER_01]: end in terms of non-Eli quarterbacks because they want to see it open first, especially when you're putting pressure in the box against the run or against the pass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think Chicago's offense won't unless Johnson just completely undresses Glenn, which I have no idea if you will or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he doesn't though, I don't think it's going to be crazy high-scoring for Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, I don't think the jet's offense is going to...
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[SPEAKER_01]: do spectacular things either, and I think there'll be some turnovers on both sides in this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this will be, I haven't called it yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this will be the game where the Jets break their interception.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dread.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a prediction of who is good at?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tavandre's sweat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I can't go sweat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, he was dropping the coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he had a referee dropping the coverage and was the nearest defender to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need to sweat drop it in the cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need barely dropping it in the cover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's still going to like there's no way around it in a three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you change your four or three, he's going to have to drop it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just sweat more sweat or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So make it happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sweds nothing to do with three, four, three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just trying to get a little cute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, let's drop our 365 nose tackle, a pal nose tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And and to be your Gibbs is running right across him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, give me the, okay, so the real prediction of who's going to get the pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me the Mario.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a safe pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's Bayesian starting man like that's they could have had one in week one against Cam Ward, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget if they have like any drops there, but like that's a guy you can totally take the ball away from it's a problem is words he's like on the field's level where exact Wilson level where he won't commit too many turnovers because you're afraid to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he wouldn't even take the chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's fans talk to themselves and I've just feels we're going to go back about she's like, oh, he's stats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted herception last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, seven touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think it was something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I told someone, the field's only throwing one pick without bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was almost as crazy as the Jets interception drought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Defensive.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say, you know, I'll be optimistic with you and I'll say they break it as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough because like the corners just are not, they're not the type to take the ball away, neither AZ or Steve and Ziz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they play tight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're present and play and tight, your vision isn't always going to be there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be sticky more, or you're more contact getting your head around late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just the way Glenn plays it, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take one of the safeties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They both play well, belt it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be Ben.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think belt has been awesome to start telling you like, like not even just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, they got him on a basically like a fringe starter deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's been in a bomb average starter for the jats over the last three games of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Cisco's had maybe his two best games of jet for the last two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say Belton, Belton feels like the safe pick there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be shocked if it's Cisco too, just because he can complete that redemption tour for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll say Dane Belton, I'll say they get a pick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also will say that Gino throws to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is the first wing we get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get the Gino picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't disagree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't disagree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird with Gino.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, guy who's not afraid of any takes chances, like week one on that first drive where Garrett Wilson drew the deep in by the way Garrett Wilson unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I've been a realistic reporter in terms of covering and breaking down Garrett Wilson talented love the guy, but unlike many others, and I get it fans love them bad situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He commits to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I get it fans crush on me for criticizing Garrett in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing he has been a top five, top 10 receiver this year because it's in traffic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is just tough, tough, like moments and catches that lift the entire offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say enough good things about him, but,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I think he hasn't been as, I don't was he reckless, but as, you know, gunslingerish as he's been in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder how much influence that has come from in terms of Glenn in his mindset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, see how it continues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's probably got to be something with the coaching staff, where it's got just a mentality thing that the staff is is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, giving to their players and and hopefully Detroit's terrible secondary broke them out of it because that's right That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great call about the way it will say I want 100% agree I saw your tweet about that, too, and I won 1000% agree that this is the best version of Garrett, but I've ever seen
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, because like we'd hold not to drag this out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd hold, we'd hold common on the Wednesday show about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like the selling point for him has always been just rare movement skills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the, his body contortion, the way he's able to do it is just, there's not a lot of athletes in the NFL that can move and contort their body in the way that Garrett does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's six foot, 180 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not your march ace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's never been like a box out of defender, make consistent, tough contested catches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There have been times in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say drop, but hasn't come down with tough catches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that that Rogers fans continue to point to where we're garrett kind of sold them on on a it was down to the left side line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget even one game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the tip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're the defender tipped it and it got off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That one, which I mean, fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that one's a straight drop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just a straight drop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just a straight drop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could put a, you could put that on Garrett wanting more expecting more, but I think we're others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when Devante came here,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the fun day was the better receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But look at what he's doing now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like with no pooca.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's dominant still at his age, but this year Garrett, all the flowers in the world, he's been that good 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is the best version of Gary Wilson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll say we'll both say a jet loss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully we're both wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the jet surprises us in their two and two going into week five, and we could feel pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a powerhouse Cleveland brands, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, apparently so, one and three just sounds a lot worse than two and two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Robby, I appreciate you joining me on the show today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can follow Robby or I'll say this, promote your stuff first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to go through my normal outro, but it's the Friday show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just go to JetsXFactor.com and check out all the writers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, all the good stuff is right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: JetsXFactor.com or JetsXMobile on the App Store Google Play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could not agree more could not vouch for you guys more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys do incredible work over a jet X and I'm sure most people if not all watching this are very familiar with that as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're they already in one former fashion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, whether they have positive impressions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They should but all the pens all the exactly it's all matter perspective.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can follow Robby at Robby Sabo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's just at Robby Sabo on Twitter, right?
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