The Image Connection Show: Episode 39 - Style as Self-Expression & Leadership

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Are you tired of sitting on the sidelines watching opportunities
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pass you by. You know you have what it takes,
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but something's missing. It could be doubt, confidence, or fear
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that you're not representing your best self. Whatever it is,
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it stops Now. It's time to align your passion with
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your purpose and seize the opportunities that await you. I
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want to see you get back in the game, So
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join me and my expert guests as we talk all
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things image branding and.
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A bit of entrepreneurship.
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So if you're ready to gain insightful tips, tools and
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strategies to help you amplify your presence and define your
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impact for greater success, sit with us as we talk
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about it.
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Welcome back to the Image Connection Show, when we go
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beneath the surface of image, branding and presence to help
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you live and lead with impact. I'm your host, Jenny Duberry,
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certified international image personal brand coach and consultant. I'm so
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glad to have you here with me today. The Image
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Connection Show is a conversation driven show that explores how
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inner alignment impacts our outer image, our presence, our visibility
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in our personal brand, everything we do from how we
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speak to. How we present ourselves is influenced by what's
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happening internally, and when those internal blocks go unchecked, they
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quietly shape our confidence, our leadership, presence, and even the
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opportunities that we allow ourselves to step into. And so
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this show exists to help you connect that so that
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you're not just seen, but you are fully understood. And
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today I have with me Julie Morrell. Julie is a
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image excuse me, an image consultant as well. She is
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a stylist. In the name of her our business is
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the science of image. She is here to talk to
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us and help us connect how style influences our leadership,
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the choices that we make, and also the opportunities again
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that we are offered. She is joining us from Bangkok, Thailand,
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and so I want to ask you to help me
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Welcome Julie to the to the show. Welcome Julie, Hi, Jenny,
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Thanks for having me. I'm so glad that you are here,
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and I want to thank you again for getting up
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so early to be here with us today. It is early, right,
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we're on like totally different time zone.
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So yes, it's six am now it's.
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A am So thank you look, you look like it's
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six in the in the afterno in the evening. You
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look wonderful. Thank you, Thank you. So Julie, you've been
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a stylist or an image consultant for ten years and
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you were trained in Singapore. You're a native of Canadian
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and now residing in Thailand. Can you talk a little
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bit about your journey into the image consulting and styling industry.
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Yeah, well, I think, like many people who are in
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this line of work, it started long before this actually
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was a career. So for me, it's something that I
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used as long as I could dress myself. I've always
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loved clothes, but for me, it really I think I
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always intuitively was connected to the way that clothing made
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me feel. And I knew that when I liked what
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I was wearing, I felt better and I always sought
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that feeling, and it was always a tool that I
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would turn to as I was growing up, you know,
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my teens, trying to figure.
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Out who I was.
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I used clothes to experiment and find what felt authentic
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to me.
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And then as I i you know, got.
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Older and started working, it was also a tool that
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I unintentionally used to position myself for opportunities to grow professionally.
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So I had bosses tell me that I was the
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obvious choice for.
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A promotion because I already looked like I had.
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Authority, and so it's always been a tool of use.
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But professionally, my background actually is in psychology, So I
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have a Bachelor of Science in psychology, and I pursued
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that because I was really interested in self esteem and
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confidence aspect of image and what made somebody feel confident
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or not, as well as just ideas around self image
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and identity and perception as well as behavior, which is
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based in psychology as well.
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So that was my baund.
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But when I was in the university, I was doing
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some career coaching and discovered image consulting that combines psychology
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with style, and that was like a light bulb moment
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that I was like, Wow, this is my calling. This
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is like the perfect commenting of I love and what
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I'm interested in and how I can bring value.
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So that was kind of my entry point.
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And then I got some life experience, traveled worked abroad,
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and then I completed my deployments and started this journey
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of building my practice.
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Isn't it funny though? How you know life experiences and
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when we're going through, for instance, schooling and the things
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that we go through, they connect and they tied to
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what we're really meant to do. Because when you were
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into going for psychology, it probably wasn't thinking about being
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an image consultant. But they are so closely connected because
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of the mindset that one has to have and the
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self image parts of it that we work with our
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clients on it. It positioned you perfectly for what you
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do today perfectly. And so yeah, thank you, Yeah, yeah,
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you talked about when we spoke before, and it makes
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perfect sense. I mean, it so connected dancing and styling.
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You say that they are true forms of expression. You know,
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your dance, your dancing is a form of expression that
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only you can express. You know. You then dance in
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a way that no one else can, and then a
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person dresses in their own way. It could be the
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same outfit, it could be the same dance, but we're
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expressing ourselves and it looks different on each of us,
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whether that's dancing or not. But what made you kind
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of connect dancing with style because I, you know, I
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wouldn't have come up with that, but they are very similar.
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Sure, well, I guess, just to clarify, I do Latin
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dancing as a hob for anyone listening without context, and
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so I started my journey back in twenty eighteen. It
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was something I was always interested in doing, but never
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really got to pick it up as a hobby earlier.
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And honestly, I didn't make that connection for the longest time.
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It really was just a hobby that I was drawn to.
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I loved the music. I loved that when you see
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a Latin dancer there's so much joy, and like the
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energy that they radiate was just so like magnetizing to me.
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And it really wasn't until I think, I would say
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maybe last year that I realized I've kind of been
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on a journey round and like my own relationship with
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style and what it means to me and what I
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think it really brings to anybody. And I realize that
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for me and I think the clients I work with,
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it is learning about how to express yourself and dance
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like style is a form of self expression through a movement, and.
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I guess I just made that connection.
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I guess in a way, I've been finding a common
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thread through my life and maybe the underlying essence of
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what I believe my purpose to be. And when I
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look at the patterns of the things that excite me
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and that I really feel are meaningful, it's all tied
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to self expression through different forms, whether that's I also
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like to paint and yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, I'll
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definitely about that as well as verbal communication.
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That's another.
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Another way that I work with clients is helping them
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elevate their communications.
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So it's really just a theme through my life.
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And I started putting those pieces together over the last
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few years and last year, I guess I may not
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connection to Yeah.
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Yeah, and as I said, it makes perfect sense. No
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one would really think about that. But that's your psychology
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mind there that brought that to you. It's definitely a line.
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And I'm so glad that you spoke about how you
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help your clients with communicating, because when people think about stylas,
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or they think about image consultants, they think about clothing,
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they don't think about the deeper parts of work that
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we do with our clients. And for you, well, we
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both specialized in helping women, but do you help women
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who are stepping into higher levels of visibility, whether they're speakers, consultants,
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and leaders. You help them to align their style with
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who they are on the inside. Now, we as women,
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we evolve, but our wardrobe sometimes still reflects an earlier
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version of ourselves. So how do you help your women,
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the women that you work with, how do you help
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them build a wardrobe? And we're just going to talk
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about style for a minute that reflects who they are
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today and where they can be comfortable with this woman
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that they are evolving into. How do you approach that
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because we know sometimes there's resistence in that.
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Yes, indeed, so I would say, I mean my mind
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goes a couple of places. So for one, when I
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am approaching this with a client, we work from the
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inside out, So we don't start with the wardrobe.
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We start with who they are.
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On the inside and what their values are now and
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what their preferences are now. And a very big piece
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of this, I'm realizing is lifestyle, which is something that
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changes a lot as.
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You evolve in your career.
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Maybe you change jobs, you might go from being in
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an internal to clients facing, which is going to change
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how you need to show up and present. And you
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can see this in life transitions as well, where you
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know a lot of my clients are new moms and
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they have to be more comfortable and have more practical
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and functional clothing. So lifestyle is a very big piece
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of it. So we start by taking inventory of all
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of that so that we have kind of the north.
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Star and.
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Talking about how they can use clothes to express the
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current version of who they are. Another I mentioned values.
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That's a really big one, and I'll give an example.
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So for myself, I would say, I don't know. Me
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ten years ago was very still very growth oriented. I
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really value self expression and freedom creativity.
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But I thought that I.
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Aligned more with the corporate world, and so I was
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dressing accordingly. I was wearing more suits and tailored was etc.
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And over the years I started connecting more with my
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spirituality and nature.
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And with that I have begun to.
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Value more of the kind of the larger scope of
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the fashion injujury and sustainability in particular.
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So for me, a big.
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Value that has come into play that wasn't before is
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sustainability and nature and kind of connection to the larger
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community or the world community, if you will. So now
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when I am working with my own wardrobe and I'm
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updating it, I prioritize sustainable brands and or purchasing pieces
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that are secondhand rather than especially buying fast fashion. And
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so that's an example of a value that has changed
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for me and how I've changed that in my own wardrobe,
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and I see that manifest in my client style as well,
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where they may have been in a corporate position and
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now they're mostly working from home for themselves, and they
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value more comfort and they want to be more easy
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going or laid back in their image. And so we'll
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look at how we need to shift their wardrobe accordingly.
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So I would say, yeah, we start from the inside out.
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We look at how somebody has evolved in these key
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pieces of their life, key areas of their life, and
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then we need adjustments to their wardrobe accordingly. And that said,
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I will also say ioritize working with someone's existing wardrobe
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because data research actually shows most of us only we're
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twenty percent of our wardrobe on a regular basis anyway,
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and there's you know, usually eighty percent of our wardrobe
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we're not using. And so we try to look at
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what isn't being used and what could be you used
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to serve that current updated version of you.
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Maximize what you have.
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Yeah, and we you know, a second I going into
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someone's wardrobe and an expert I going into someone's wardrobe
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can create so many different looks that the individual that
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is not an expertise in creating those styles and the
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things that we do, they go into their closet and
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it's as if they've gone to a store and shop,
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because we're re shopping for them, helping them save money.
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I mean, it really kind of debunks the misconception that
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when you hire a stylist or an image consultant, that
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you are automatically going to the store spending loads of money,
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where if you're working with someone that has that sustainability
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approach to style, and that's the last thing that we
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want to do is have you to go through the
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store and make all these repeat purchases. We're going to
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use what you have right, use what you have necessary
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when you shop. We're going to make sure that you're
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shopping for those investment pieces or those pieces that you
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can use over time and maybe add a trend or
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to it. Is that that's your approach as well, I'm sure.
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Yes, I would say a big part of it is teaching,
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so part of it is undoing the mindset of consumption,
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because in our consumer society, we are conditioned to think
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about the next thing, the next purchase, what should be
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added to my wardrobe, instead of looking at what you
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have and how you can breathe new life into it.
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more strategic. And so I teach clients to think about, like,
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where are the gaps in your wardrobe? But there's books
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that you could create because you have almost every piece,
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you're just missing one thing. And if you added that
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one thing, it would exponentially increase your other outfit options
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because it would give you ten other things to wear.
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I also get my clients to think about what pieces
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need to be replaced because things get worn out for sure,
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and what could be upgraded.
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So if you have maybe you have a pair.
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Of dark washed genes, for example, but maybe there's like
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fifteen percent elasting in them, and so you have to
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wash them everywhere so they get switched down. Instead, I
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get them to invest in a pair of denim that
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is going to just get.
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Better for longer, not need to be washed much. So
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that's shopping.
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It's sustainability and keeping the garment and then keeping their shape.
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especially when you're buying natural more natural fibers or fabrics,
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they tend to last longer than especially if you're not
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taking your clothes for dry cleaners. I found that when
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you're buying those less expensive pieces, when soon as you
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put them in the dryer and you're killing them. So
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investment shopping is yeah, it's or washing, yes, very very
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important to do that, and then investing in in dry
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cleaning and tailoring is very important. But I want to
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talk about again. I mentioned how women evolve and then
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they don't show up as the person that they have
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evolved into because for some reason, no one has told
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them that. I always say, as your position changed so much,
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your image, you know, you have to change how you
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present yourself in different rooms, in different environments. What would
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you say to a woman that's hesitant about that, that
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doesn't really embrace that theory? Because I've heard it a
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lot and I think I'm fine, I don't have to change.
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You know, it hasn't stopped me from getting here. But
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imagine how further how much further a person can go
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if how they're presenting themselves is truly aligned with the
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position that they are in or where they want to go.
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is it that you want to convey about yourself in
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this position? And what is important for you to convey
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about yourself in this position? Because as we know, image
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communicates messages and ninety percent of the information we take
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this people.
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So whether you like.
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It or not, people are going to be perceiving you
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and you if you choose to, well, you do have
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control over that. It's whether you want to use that
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intentionally and strategically or not. My question to them would
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be like, what is it that you want to convey
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and is your current image actually conveying that? So that
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gets the wheels turning. And then I think another big
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part of it is how you feel, because when there
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is a disconnect between who you are on the inside
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and what you've accomplished as a person and what is
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translating visually, there there is misalignment.
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And if you you are sensitive to.
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Alignment, you're going to feel it. It's not going to
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feel something's going to feel off. Yeah, And usually when
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I'm working with women, that's the language they use. They'll
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feel like, They'll say, I don't feel like I look
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like myself or I feel like there's a disconnect between
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who I am and how I see myself. So usually
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they know by the time they're looking to work with
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someone like me, and I'm not really having to convince
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them that it matters, whereas I am seking to someone
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that isn't quite like, hasn't come.
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To that conclusion on their own.
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Then it's usually that question of planting a seed and like,
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is this working for you?
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Yeah, and it's so much I won't say easy, but
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it's it's a much more fulfilling process. When a person
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does already know that something is off, they may not
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be able to name it, they might not know exactly
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what it is that they do need know and feel
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that there needs to be some enhancements or some refinement somewhere.
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And so, like you said, when they come to us,
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they're ready versus let's trying to convince them this is
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what you need. And if that's not something that they
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believe in, our work becomes just a bit harder, a
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bit more difficult to get them.
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Indeed, yes, it.
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Does they do come around, but it's a little bit
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more word Yeah, but.
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No, sorry to interrupt.
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I just want to add that a way that this
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disconnection can also manifest that I've seen is overwhelmed or
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stress when you're getting dressed because you no longer feel
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like you have things that are going to make you
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feel comfortable in putting yourself in front of a group
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of people in this worl. So I think that's a
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signal that is quite common when there is starting to
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be a disconnector and misalignment at a time for an
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update readjustment.
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Yes, yes, I like that update readjustment because it is
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and many times I do know that women or we
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people in general, but I work with women, you work
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with women. They feel like they are positioned for these
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new promotions. I mean, they have all the hard skills
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that they need. They have the education, the training, the skills,
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but they often wonder why aren't I getting this position?
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And this might sound a little harsh, It has nothing
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to do. It may have nothing to do with your
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skills and your expertise. A lot of times it truly
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is our presence and how we are presenting ourselves, and
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that credibility through our through visual trust. You know, can't
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do the people that you're wanting to give you these opportunities.
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Do they trust that you can handle and represent them
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if it's an individual client or the organization in a
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way that's aligned with what they're trying to put out
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into the world. And so confidence and STOU I think
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they go hand in hand. Kind of touched on that
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a bit not long ago. When we look good, we
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truly do feel good, even if it's just on the inside.
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You know, we always have to work on that internal image,
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that self image, so it can be a lasting, a confident,
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confident version of ourselves. But when we talk about STOU
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as a leadership tool, you mentioned that we're always being
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read and we are people are always looking and they're
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trying to find cues. You know, is she trustworthy? We
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hear that a lot, but it's true, you know, can
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I trust her? Is she capable of doing the work
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that I need her to do? And all of that
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comes through I think the first impression, right, and the
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first impression is really how they see us and what
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we're you know, what we have on I think because
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it's only a few seconds, so I think the first
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that I first goes to what we're wearing and then
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it reads, it reads the rest net. So how can
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we use style as a leadership tool?
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That's a really good question. I feel like there's so
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many layers to this. So there's there's a book I
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read called How Women Rise by.
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Marshall Sally Halguson.
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I believes, uh, And they talk about women's leadership and
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things that basically prevent women from being able to rise. Yeah,
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And one of the things they say is, I can't
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remember the exact quote, but it's something.
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Leadership.
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You're leadership presence comes down to your ability to be
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fully present, and to me from conversations with women, if
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you are self conscious about what you're wearing, and you
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are in a room where you are wondering what people
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are thinking, how people are perceiving you, if what you're
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wearing is appropriate, if you look like the leader that
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you are, and if people are taking usually that vents
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you from being able to be fully present. Right, and
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you are subconsciously or consciously distracted and worried about something
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like your clothes, it's not gonna it's going to hold
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you back. So to me, aligning your external image with
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who you are on the inside how you see yourself,
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heal your values, your skills, and your role, your lifestyle.
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It removes that depth and you're no longer thinking about
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what other people are thinking because you are intentional and
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you're aligned and you are you are instead of taking
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like being externally oriented, you are now internally oriented.
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And this is when you.
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Reallyland in this energy of presence and you radiate who
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you are because you're not trying to like shape shift
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or you know, worry about how people are seeing you.
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So I would argue that is the number one thing
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because I agree inside a job, and then beyond that,
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I do think you know, as a leader, it's you
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are in a position to walk the talk and you
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lead by example and to like exemplify the behavior and
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the presence that you know you would want your team
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to emulate. Sure, and when you are when you take
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that time to align external image with your internal image,
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you become aspirational. You become someone that other people look
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to and are inspired by.
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And yeah, it just speaks volumes without you having to
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say anything you should.
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That's why it's presence. It's presence, and that's a feeling,
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that's an experience rather than, like you said, what we're wearing. However,
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the act of what we're wearing sets the tone for
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the rest. You know, if we're our clothes are well fitting, right,
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if our colors are complementary to us and I you know,
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I keep talking about this because people really do dismiss
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the power of our clothes and the communication that comes
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through that because you again, you can be in a
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leadership role. You can be the person that you know
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when when people are thinking about, well, who can do
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this job? They may think about you, but if you're
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not positioned externally to carry out the job, then they may,
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you know, overlook you and go to someone else that
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has the whole package. So leadership President, I think it's
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about the whole package, and it's all. It's about experience.
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It's about appearances too. We cannot dismiss that and the
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importance of it. And when we think, we talk a
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bit about mindset blocks. So when your clients come to you,
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hopefully most of them are ready, but a lot are not.
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How do you help them with their mindset blocks and
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being able to get them to embrace this new way
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of doing things and expressing themselves. Do you get a
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lot of resistance in that.
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Well, there's certainly a lot of conditioning and ideas about
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what certain clothes means.
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For example, I had one client that it sounded like
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her mom.
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A lot of opinions about people who wore certain things.
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So this is quoting here, it's like, it's kind of
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funny a little I don't know a little other. But
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the line was that red shoes are for children and.
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Toes.
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Like that's just one example of other stories she had
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about about clothes. And so in a lot of cases,
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client had these conversations and they've never had these stories
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more associations challenged, and they've also never been pushed outside
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their comfort zone and so they've just always kind of
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lived within those limitations and stay with what's safe.
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Yeah, And so it.
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Is just having the conversation and challenging that that story
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and getting them to maybe find other references where whatever
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that belief is that they have, it is not the case. Like,
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for example, seeing an example of a strong, you know,
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female CEO wearing red shoes and realizing like, oh, that's
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not true.
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I can wear them, you know, empowerment you feel, Yeah.
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Yes, So I think finding examples to to.
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Prove those stories wrong.
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Having those conversations to surface these stories and disprove them.
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Another part of it.
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Is is reframing the way a client might think about style.
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So I had another conversation with this woman.
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She was actually an artist, and she really resisted the
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idea of having to dress a certain way. And yeah,
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she like, I think it sounded like how to disconnect
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with her appearance. She was very connected to her art,
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her work, but she was like, no, I'm not gonna
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put effort. I'm not going to put attention. I resist it.
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I don't want to play that game of how I
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should look. And in our concasion, I pointed out to
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her how like she's artistic, she loves self expression through art.
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So I asked for like, do you have you ever
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thought about clothes as a form of self expression and art?
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And she was like, I've never thought about it that way.
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And then after our conversation, I think a couple weeks later,
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she went back to me and was like, I just
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want you to know. After a conversation, I got a
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haircut and I started dressing up every day because yeah,
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So sometimes it's reframing beliefs as well, and sometimes it's
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really just pushing somebody, like I said, out of their
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comfort zone because they've never they've never ventured into a
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space of.
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Seeing themselves as someone that.
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Wears anything other than black all the time or whatever
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color it might be.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a client like that and
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I put her at the time, some years ago, I
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put her subtle a leopard belt. You know, she liked leopard,
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but she was afraid to wear so we I'm thinking, well,
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we can't put you in a whole leopard suit, so
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let's just do that. You know, where little a leopard
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belt and when you know, the leopard shoe. And then
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she thought, well, well, actually she liked Prince, not Leopard.
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I told her about the leopard, and so she said, well,
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you know, she called me, she said, I put this
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on and I went out and oh my gosh. You know,
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you wouldn't believe the compliments that I got. And I
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just felt like a new woman. But it was just
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those small tweaks, the little things, the little details is
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where the magic happens. Really. You know, you don't have
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to revamp all things about your style now sometimes I
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mean depending but again, your client won't get her haircut,
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that just gave her that instant boost of confidence, and
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then it made her realize the impact of how she
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looked before. And then this new way of doing things,
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you probably start receiving so many other connections, probably opportunities.
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More people maybe even bought her art because they could
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see that she was paid attention to details. So when
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we pay attention to details, it says a lot about us,
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but it also says a lot about our business and
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how we handle business as well, and you know our
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leadership roles.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I think all of those little signs signal something. And
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even I also like to talk about taking the time
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to think about how you present yourself and to feel
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good about it as a sign of self respect and
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how you treat yourself, and that when when you do that,
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it's something people perceiveably really subconsciously, you're teaching people how
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to see you and how to treat you based on
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how you treat yourself and how you what what time
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and attention you invest in yourself. So I think it
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goes even deeper to things like self respect and it does, yeah.
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Self respectful, Well, like we said, it treats people. It
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teaches people rather how to treat you It also helps
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others know. You know, they may pat you on the back.
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You know, they may come to you and say, oh, well,
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you know you're you're always so well polished. Like your manager.
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It said to you, you look like you're already in
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a position of authority. You have what it takes, so
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why not put you on this path? Whereas someone else
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I knew. I had a client that came to me.
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It was a he was an entry level engineer. But
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he said, at the the computers with all the other
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engine and you came and he says, well, you know,
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I'm tired of sitting at the computer. I want to
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get out and start doing things, doing projects and such.
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And I told him, I said, well, you can always
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wait to be tapped on the shoulder. You have to
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insert yourself, be assertive, you know, in what you want
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to do. But you can start by changing how you're
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showing up into this office just because you see others
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that might show up in T shirts and jeans, take
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another notche put a polo shirt on, a button up
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polo you know you cause you still want to be
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relaxed and you still want to dress for the environment.
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But set yourself apart a bit, so he started dressing
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a little differently and we work through that, and then
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he finally got up the confidence to go and ask
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his superior how he was doing, and she appreciated that
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and within two weeks he was out doing a project.
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You know, but it just goes to back to how
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we present ourselves in our confidence level, and you know
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how that increases when we feel like we're worthy and
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then when we look the part, people respect us a
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little bit more, that opportunities are there for us, and
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then the transformation in that it's like it's unmatched. So
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I know you've talked about some areas well. Before we
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get into that, actually I want to take a quick
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break and then we'll come back and we will share
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some of your links with the audience so they can
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know how to be in touch with you, so we
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will be right back. Great.
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Your next level has a look, let's define it.
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We are back with Julie Morele. Julie is a image
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consultant and stylist of ten years. She works with women
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in leadership and correctly, if I'm grown, your work with
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women in leadership to help them amplify their visibility when
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they're on stage, help them to enhance their stage presence,
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I assume, and then consultant, so she is here to
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help us well, to discuss with me image style and
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how it impacts our leadership and how to use style
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as a tool and a confidence confidence booster, so to speak.
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So I wanted to let the audience know, Julie your
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business is Science of Image. How they would be able
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to contact you if they wanted to find out more
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about you. Julie is she's global, she works globally, but
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she's she lives in Bangkok, Thailand, so you can reach
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her through her links here the Science of Image dot
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com on LinkedIn. She is Julie Morrell and then her
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website is The Mindful Dresser that's subset substack dot com.
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Uh yeah, put them in the chat here, yes, thank you,
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mm hmm.
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We have it here. I'm in a tack or two Www.
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Styling Hypen Services dot sias ofimage dot com.
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Yes, so that's my services page and if you are
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interested in following my content learning more about my work,
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I have a substack publication called The Mindful Dresser, which
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is where I publish articles about different ideas around style
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and going really in depth into different perspectives and my
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philosophy around style, so scientific. Sorry, the Mindsdresser substock publication.
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You can ask my.
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Services page through there and LinkedIn is another place that
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you can find me online and my LinkedIn profile is
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under my name Julie Morrel.
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Thank you, thank you so again, there's a f you
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are code here also if you be what viewers would
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like to stand, if you are cod that is there
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for you as well. And so Julie, we'll get back
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into the conversation. You're helping women with visibility and helping
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them to connect the relationship between style and how they're
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carry and how they carry themselves. I'm coming to you.
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I need your help. I am a consultant as I am,
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and I need your help with visibility. I know my
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area of expertise, I know my work. I can to
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anyone about what I do, but those doors are not
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always open for me, and I don't know why. What
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would you say to the client that comes to you
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with that issue when you're looking at that person and
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you kind of know what it is is firsthand right now?
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Well, my first question would be how do you feel?
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Do you feel it yourself? And if they're coming that
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question or that the answer is is probably that there's
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some kind of disconnect or they don't feel quite confident
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or comfortable in how they're showing up, Probably that they
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don't feel like themselves in their clothes, or that it's
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not really.
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Conveying who they are.
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So yeah, we start there with how you feel, and
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then exploring the idea of like.
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Why is there disconnect? Where's coming from?
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Have you.
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Really changed your role or have you grown as a person?
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How have you grown a person?
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But what part of you has evolved that is no
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longer being communicated through this old way that you're presenting yourself.
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I'd also say, if you are looking for visibility and
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you feel like you're not visible, I would explore ideas
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around like how do you think somebody who is visible
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to show up? Like what is your interpretation of visibility
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and what that would look like, and where is the
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gap between that and how you are seeing yourself.
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There's probably like a psychology self image.
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Component selves as the person that is visible.
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Yeah, I agree, definitely. If you're feeling like you need
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to like you're shrinking or like you said, you want
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to be visible, what does visibility mean to you? And
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what is it within you is keeping you from being visible?
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Whatever that looks like for the individual. And it does
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start on the inside, as you said, and I always
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say images inside out, it's not outside in. We have
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to work on the inner parts of ourselves right so
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that we can feel comfortable when we do present ourselves
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in these different spaces and environments and even online. And
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so you know, women as a woman, excuse me as women,
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most of us we do already know our strengths and
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we know our skills, but again, we're not aligned our
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inside and how we present ourselves on the outside. It's
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not aligned. We've talked about how you do that, but
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where would they begin the first step to beginning to
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evolve or beginning to embrace this new person. Would you
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say a person needs to sit with themselves in order
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to figure out who they are first, even though we're stout.
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Yeah, yeah, you have to take inventory of where you're
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at now, because without that as a starting point, it's
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impossible to to create a style and an image around that. Yeah, so,
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and and thing about things like so. In my training,
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we were taught that image really based it. Image really
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is based around your visions, your vision, value, skill, talent goals.
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And I kind of expanded on that from my own
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experience too, that it's also based on your preferences, what
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feels good to you and what you are naturally drawn to,
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as well as your lifestyle. And so I always start
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here with clients, and then we also look at like,
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what do you value in close? What's important to you?
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Is it important to you to feel feminine in your clothes,
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important to you to feel creative and unique like an individual?
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Or is comfort the top priority? Or is it that
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you want to have timeless pieces. So we look at
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the values as well when it comes to clothing, and
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that helps to give you a direction for your style
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as well, and a direction for how you're going to
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actually use your clothes and piece them together, since we
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are working with your existing wardrobe, so big, big inventory.
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It is again knowing yourself, knowing where you want to go,
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and then you're What you're speaking of sounds to me
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like the style personality, the different style personality. You have
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to know what that is again before we can stab,
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before we can style the person because you can't put
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a classic in a dramatic and they may look good,
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but if they don't feel good in it, it's not
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gonna work right exactly. Yeah, you know this has been good.
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Again we're talking about style, the gap between your style
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and showing up as your authentic self and aligning those two.
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I've had a good conversation here with Julie again. She
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is the founder of Science of Image and she is
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in a global image consultant and styleist, and so I
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thank you for spending your time here with me today.
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Julie for a woman that's listening, and she is again
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she's ready to show up. We know that it starts
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with awareness and how you know that the thoughts that
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you have about yourself and knowing who you are before
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anyone can really style you with integrity. I think that
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we're not just pulling things off of the rat We're
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really getting to know the person and know what their
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goals are, their values are, and working them into this
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new way and this evolved woman. And so you talked
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about how you do that for your clients, and so
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I think the way you approach your work is very important,
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the sustainability approach that you use, not just in using
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the clothes in the closet, but I think that you
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know fabrics. I've had clients that we're only wear natural
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made fibers, when when I tell you that it's a
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it's a chore sometimes to find a lot of clothes
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that are made with natural fibers, but some clients that's
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just what they want. Have you experienced anything like that,
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because I wonder how many people are really, did you know,
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set on buying nothing other than natural black fibers, and
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has that been difficult for you? And I have access
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to many stores, but I just don't buy that a lot.
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In my experience, I would say no, that hasn't been
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something because usually I'm working with women who I haven't
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really thought that much about style, and that's why they
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need help. It's because they've always been focused on usually
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their career and before that they're academics and skills and
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so like, Yes, they usually don't even pay attention to
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the fabric composition of the clothing that they buy, and
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often don't really know the implications of different fabrics or
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even how to wash them correctly.
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So I actually do a lot.
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Of vation around that and helping them first of all,
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understand what fabrics are going to just drape better on
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their body when they talk about dress for your body type,
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and then beyond that, helping them understand what fabrics are
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going to better serve their lifestyle based on the climate
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that they live in. And then another is the sustainability
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part and teaching them about like how you know different
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raw materials are extracted in more or less sustainable ways
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and different brands that they cry from if they are
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prepared to invest in more sustainable materials.
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So yeah, no, I would say, Uh, it's been the.
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Opposite for me, is I'm usually working on like zero
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knowledge of our awareness around fabric and helping them understand
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what to choose, what to look.
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For, And yeah, that's I only wanted it was. It
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was a challenge, but we made it happen. So again,
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talking with Julie, and we're talking about we're talking about
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so much more than just stylling a person. We're talking
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about the process of getting to know you, the client
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before we begin the process of working with you to
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help you to evolve into the woman that you are
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either becoming or the woman that you see yourself as.
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And again, it involves more than just going to a
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store or online and shopping. She's talking about how your lifestyle,
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your goals, and how dressing communication, which is a part
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of dressing because when you're styling yourself and you're entering
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into different environments in different roles, you are communicating with
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your clothes and with your color. So she's talking about
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the deeper parts of styling as well. So I appreciate
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you giving this information to the listeners and reminding them
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or either even making them aware that clothes are so
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much more than just something that we put on. You know,
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there needs to be intentionality behind it. There are tools
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to help us succeed, not just in business, but in
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our personal lives as well. They cross those boundaries daily.
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They're very inter interconnected, and so how we show up
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it's impactfolk. It opens opportunity doors of opportunities for us,
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or they quiet or it quietly closes those doors as well.
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And if you can leave the audience with something, Julie,
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what would that be.
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I would say, to.
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Give yourself permission to feel good about how you look
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and to be intentional about what you are conveying through
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your appearance. Because image does communicate messages and you do
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have control over it. So choose something that is lying
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and that makes you feel good, and the power that
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comes from that is really magnetic.
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It is, it truly is. And then again it's positioning.
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It's positioning. Rather we're talking to the everyday woman, or
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if we're talking to a woman that works in the
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C suite, how we dress positions us for opportunities. So
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thanks for leaving us with that final word. Again, it's
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been enjoy having you here, and I thank you for
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waking up so early early again with us. And again, Julie,
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her links are Science of Image dot com. She is the.
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Yeah, styling dash services science dot com.
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Staling dot services, Science of image dot com. And we're
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we have it up here. I'll just let you read
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it if you're on audio. Then again, they are Styling
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Services dot Science of Image dot com. That's her service tape.
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You can find her on LinkedIn under Julie Morale and
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then you can also her website is I just mentioned it,
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Science of Image dot com, the Mindful Dresser on substack
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you can find her under the mindful Dresser dot subs
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dot substack dot com, and again on LinkedIn and Julie Morrell. Again,
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thank you for having us here, and I'm sorry about
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the glitches and your names, but the people will be
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able to find you, will put these links up and
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there'll be other places where they can find you as well.
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So again, thank you for being here for the listeners
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and the viewers. We thank you for spending time with
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us today and we hope that you will join us
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next week at seven pm. Until next time.
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Thank.
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You thanks for tuning in to the Image Connection Show.
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We truly appreciate you being here. We hope you'll join
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us again, and don't keep it to yourself. Invite a
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friend to tune in too. If you're ready to gain
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insightful tips, tools and strategies to enhance your image brand
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and help you alone your entrepreneur journey, this is where
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you want to be. I'll see you next Wednesday at
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seven pm Eastern Time.
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Until then, keep showing up with purpose, presence, and power.