Susan Renaud: Hi. to be here. Thank you.
JOY OFIRA: It's, Thank you so much for coming. So to get started, ⁓ I wanted just get an understanding of how this all you discovered your abilities ⁓ when you were seven. So as a child, how do you navigate this unseen understanding? in a materialist world, right, that is just so outside the realm of what ⁓ would be considered standard childhood occurrence.
Susan Renaud: Yeah. well, you know, I never thought of it that way. I thought it was just, me as a child doing my child things, thinking, ⁓ imagining all parts of it. And then my mom and I used to play card game and we would this psychic guess. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Okay.
Susan Renaud: So we would try to guess what was in each other's hands so we could win. And so the trick was to think of a different card. So the person trying to guess ⁓ guess the other card. ⁓ we would play all these different psychic card games with just go fish.
JOY OFIRA: Right? So it's kind of training almost, but it wasn't supposed to but it kind of was. ⁓
Susan Renaud: ⁓ was training and you know when ⁓ talked to my dad years later he said you know if there a stranger walking by I could ask you what that person was about and you could tell me the whole story of that person. it, that whole conversation with my dad as an adult stuck in my head Because I could figure people out really quickly as young child. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Right? you start to that you had this sort of deeper like this medical intuition? ⁓ Can you explain what means?
Susan Renaud: So ⁓ gifts came out. when I was in my early 40s. And it was an intention that I was like, ⁓ I want to be more psychic, I want to be more intuitive, So I started meditating, ⁓ and I learned how to meditate from children's book. ⁓ mean, that's that was my level of to ⁓ do something like that.
JOY OFIRA: great.
Susan Renaud: I've got the basic meditation formula down how to meditate, know breathing I started asking for information like ⁓ here. available to be talked to but you can only go through my ⁓ benevolent beings so I can feel safe. that's when it all actually started. I was conversations in my meditative state so that's how I started like building and so one of my friends, mom who had passed many, ⁓ many, many years ago, prior to that, ⁓ was like, What do me to tell my friend? She says, don't count the pennies. Okay, what else do want me to tell her? Something. I'm thinking, oh, it must be profound. I got to tell her something big. She said, no, just tell her, don't count the pennies. Now, This woman was business owner. Her daughter bought out her last business, which was a bookstore. But as
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Susan Renaud: kids growing up they would learn how to run the cash register, And I told my friend I had a dream your mom and she said, don't count the pennies. I said, do you know what means? And she was like, ⁓ my God, that freaked me out.
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Susan Renaud: my mom used to say that all the time when we were cashing out the register She she says they too much money to have someone stand there counting pennies You know the hourly rate and it is just to say ⁓ that's 70 cents or 30 cents because in the bigger scheme of things
JOY OFIRA: Right.
Susan Renaud: a penny or two or three, either way doesn't really matter. And it did actually help my friend out because she was struggling with her business at the time. ⁓ so ⁓ was just like a ⁓ up, like, ⁓ mom's here. She's telling you something. You'll OK, And that was one of the beginnings of ⁓ my conscientious intention to
JOY OFIRA: In this episode, we explore how she can see inside the human body and perform cellular restructuring on a molecular level. This includes encounters with concurrent multidimensional lives and missions on planets in other universes. As always, this conversation expands into a larger understanding of ourselves and reality. Right. Right?
Susan Renaud: become a healer. And I used do a lot of running ⁓ and so one on runs,
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Susan Renaud: my back started hurting, which wasn't an unusual thing. I had a lot of back pain and I used to go to chiropractors all the time. so I'm looking in my eye, what's going on And I could see my insides of my body. I could see how I was running
JOY OFIRA: And as we close, hold on to this. Your physical body is a gateway, but it isn't the limit of who you are.
Susan Renaud: So I could actually see the kinesiology of my legs running. And I'm like, well, that's wrong. This should be more this way. And when I adjusted my pelvis ⁓ to kind of make happen, my back pain went away. ⁓ And so I didn't of it. I never thought about it. ⁓ And then by the I started ⁓ walking home, I'm like, that's weird.
JOY OFIRA: Okay. we are multi-dimensional beings having a human experience. reality is far more expansive than the mainstream would have us believe. ⁓ yeah, cool.
Susan Renaud: People just don't do that. What is that? So I to visit one of my friends and was telling her about what happened.
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Susan Renaud: she said, well, Why don't you try looking inside my body? So I was like, okay, just don't look at me while I do it. I was scared. was shy. And so I picked out a few places that I could see. it just like.
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Susan Renaud: came. There wasn't any whoo-hoo angels singing. It was just like, what's going on in your shoulder? Or your knee, your knee. Let me think what's going on in your left knee. while I was coming to ⁓ that I was at the and I could see inside people's chests. Like in my eye, could see inside like everybody's chest in the heartbeats were syncing
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Susan Renaud: it was like, ⁓ maybe that's how ⁓ we have to be So the plane will take off that we all have to be synchronized kind of like in, when we do meditations or prayers and yoga, we use our breath to synchronize so we can elevate in the workout. Right. ⁓ So,
JOY OFIRA: Wow. Yeah.
Susan Renaud: I thought that was weird and that it was very freakish and I told her the whole story and there was also another thing that happened that she had a foot pain I just randomly put my hand on her foot and all of a sudden the pain went in my foot. ⁓ It was like I had this like phantom pain in my foot, but it didn't really hurt. I just could feel it. It was very interesting. ⁓ pain stopped.
JOY OFIRA: Wow. Okay.
Susan Renaud: So then we went to another friend who is a powerful, powerful healer. And she says, let me tell you what you'll be able to do. So it wasn't just telling me what I'm doing, but what I will be able to do with these gifts to help people. ⁓ she that ⁓ I'm medical intuitive so I can see and feel inside the body and I can them through with them. And I can see where their issues are and I'll be able to heal many, many deep, big issues. ⁓ And so I've been working towards this for the last 25 years on doing that. so medical ⁓ is of a broader term. there's some that say, you've got this health issue. This is how you treat health issue. ⁓ Mine is more of a healer intuitive. I can shift things. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Right?
Susan Renaud: So my sight ⁓ in my mind's eye. So when I look into like your bloodstream and there's things in the bloodstream, it could be just energetic things that are happening, that I start working with them. ⁓ I them. it starts talking to me. So I've got this conversation going with what's going on in a body.
JOY OFIRA: Hmm.
Susan Renaud: And I can shift it just by tuning in and tapping in with my mind's eye feeling them ⁓ me. And we can have a discussion to help them further along their health to better health.
JOY OFIRA: Huh. So say that looking at somebody's blood and you could feel something is happening even just energetically with their blood. how does that happen? does it come in as thoughts? Does it come in as feelings? And then you said you're more of a healer. So then ⁓ you just ⁓ shift that ⁓ for them.
Susan Renaud: Right.
JOY OFIRA: Like what's the experience like for you and then what's the experience like for them?
Susan Renaud: Okay. when I'm seeing something that doesn't belong And this it's in my mind's eye so if I'm looking at something energetically versus literal, I know that sounds kind of weird in this format. okay. ⁓ I can actually ⁓ the cell too.
JOY OFIRA: No, not at all. at all.
Susan Renaud: in that, the cells are vibrating molecules within the cell I should say are vibrating ⁓ and there's they're not moving well. So I'm ⁓ energetically stimulating the cells to activate
JOY OFIRA: ⁓ yeah.
Susan Renaud: So it's ⁓ like cellular restructuring. The cell is actually ⁓ shifting ⁓ energetically to vibrate the right way so it can do its job better. So the charge, it stimulates, and what the cells are doing, is repairing by this point.
JOY OFIRA: almost like a frequency, a resonance, ⁓ like that are understanding that it should be at a certain level. And if you see that it's not, then you can help maybe through your own resonance or however you think it works to bring their to that resonance, the healthy resonance.
Susan Renaud: Right. Yeah, it's about, yeah, it's about accepting and something in totality. So the cells are saying, ⁓ I'm being I can calm down, I can talk to this person, I can ⁓ and open. then ⁓ I get more
JOY OFIRA: Interesting.
Susan Renaud: about this person needs So I'm trying to...
JOY OFIRA: That's so cool. I'm just thinking about the cells telling you, this is what we need, so make sure to tell them. so I ⁓ wanted ask what are some of the strangest ⁓ that you've ever
Susan Renaud: Ha!
JOY OFIRA: with this work. And I know that you also do past life, you know, like looking at how past lives may have some on a current life situation for ⁓ medical intuition or ⁓ just any wild things that have come any... ⁓
Susan Renaud: I love that question. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. One of my earliest clients that I worked with many ago, he was ⁓ young guy. was ⁓ doing a of my computer work. And it was so interesting. So I asked him if he do a trade for computer work and he's like, yeah, great. I'll do a trade. ⁓ And ⁓
JOY OFIRA: ⁓
Susan Renaud: ⁓ of my earliest clients His head was in the clouds all the He ⁓ never could focus here on this planet. was always way out there. He never could focus here on this planet. So he said, sure, I'd love it. So I started working at his head. And had my hands on his head in different areas. And I could see an overlay on his face, ⁓ Do you ever see somebody's face morph? it looked like he was morphing like this monster Do you ever see somebody's face morph? ⁓ his shadows on his face, ⁓ you know, of his face were kind of becoming more dominant. So it looked he was ⁓ morphing and it looked this monster alien. ⁓ that was torn apart, like his eye and his cheek were down here and he was just in a terrible That's how I felt about it. I'm watching him and I got my fingers, my fingers are kind of moving on their own. They're kind of like twitching and kind of doing weird things that I have no control over. And I kept seeing this morphed face, like his eye and his cheek kind of moving back into place, but it looked like a monster alien still. it was happening right in front of me And all a sudden I'm looking at him specifically and he keeps doing this. He keeps smiling. I'm like, what? my God! And he says, it's tickling inside my head.
JOY OFIRA: That's wild! How?
Susan Renaud: I'm like, that is so weird. And then everything kind of calmed down. his, his energetic, monster alien face kind of went back into position and everything kind of went back to, I could see his face stop morphing and, and I was like, wow, this is trippy. ⁓ So
JOY OFIRA: Yeah.
Susan Renaud: was not a past life, but a concurrent life. was not a past life, but a concurrent life.
JOY OFIRA: Whoa. Okay, I'm here for it. Whoa. Okay, I'm here for it.
Susan Renaud: So, I'm coming in. was a lifetime that was happening to him at the same time he was living his life on Earth, doing his computer stuff. ⁓ And ⁓ ⁓ it a very ⁓ messy that a of gruesome violence on And his being there was ⁓ injured.
JOY OFIRA: Okay. Okay.
Susan Renaud: And so it was like so divinely timed that I was there to help him help his multi-dimensional body or from another multiverse, the universe heal.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. Wow.
Susan Renaud: I know, it was, was probably one of the most wildest things that ⁓ noticed my life or seen and worked with.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. how did it shift things for you? what did you think after that? Were like, okay, this is not anything I expected?
Susan Renaud: you know, it's interesting because I knew there was there was this, wow, I can this ⁓ wild thing. but it was early on in my ⁓ working. ⁓ It was giving me tools. was showing me things because that was more of the earlier years is that I would be shown these huge things. And so it showed me what I could do and being enough to identify ⁓ what the scenario was. So I looked at an even bigger picture than what we would look at this planet. ⁓ that's how one of the ways it affected me. yeah, I don't ever remember seeing again that, or if he did, he came back to work on my computer and that was the end.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. Yeah. Were there ever any other clients that you've had that you have sensed like a concurrent multi-dimensional life that's affecting perception of what their life is here on earth ⁓ have you had like two human lives happening?
Susan Renaud: yeah, there was one woman who had, it was almost like a twin life.
JOY OFIRA: Hmm.
Susan Renaud: She was ⁓ living two lives.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah.
Susan Renaud: so I'll give a little explanation. So our, our soul is not in a body. We still have soul out here in the universe. ⁓ So ⁓ only a of soul is here. So I got to meet her twin soul. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Susan Renaud: on this planet, but it was in a different
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: and it was still her but it was she had
JOY OFIRA: to was still her, like still her as a human, but on a different planet, either a different earth or a different earth-like planet, something like that. Yeah.
Susan Renaud: Yeah, thank you and was a ⁓ very woman in this other being but there were similar Love life happening But each woman the woman present was more
JOY OFIRA: Hmm.
Susan Renaud: she could go either way, female, relationships, ⁓ ⁓ other ⁓ was very very female, extremely, She looked like she was acting from the ⁓ You know, it wasn't ⁓ in the ⁓ but it was her acting like someone from the 1800s, you know, very demure, feminine, ⁓ her role well as a female in that era kind of thing. ⁓ there was a love triangle there.
JOY OFIRA: Hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: And it kind of correlated with what was happening in her life now. And so if we helped repair one of those lives, the other one would follow suit.
JOY OFIRA: Hmm. Wow, that is so interesting.
Susan Renaud: So that's how, yeah, that's how I could, that's how it out for me is like, that's how I saw it. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. Did you get a sense that the person that she was having the love triangle with or the people she was having the love triangle with, were those souls the same souls on different planets or was it more like, or was that not really part of it? It was just like
Susan Renaud: ⁓ I'm kind of tapping into that. That's a good question. My sense is that one of them was similar. I don't think it was a twin, but I think had very similar qualities.
JOY OFIRA: Okay?
Susan Renaud: in terms of demeanor, their personalities, ⁓ it wasn't the same soul. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Sure. Right. Yeah, I mean, don't worry on this Time is nonlinear.
Susan Renaud: but that's been ⁓ ⁓
JOY OFIRA: We are multi-dimensional beings having a human experience You know like that I really do believe that ⁓ What you say about like there's just a piece of our soul is ⁓ You know, I feel like Yeah, for sure could we be
Susan Renaud: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
JOY OFIRA: distributed across many different timelines right now? Sure. Could we be distributed along different timelines that happen to be on different planets? Why not? I mean, if you're going to believe, right?
Susan Renaud: Mm-hmm. Right? I believe everything is possible.
JOY OFIRA: The only thing I'm sure of is that I don't know. Like I just am endlessly curious about things and I would notice sometimes getting to point and being like, well, ⁓ that's ridiculous. And then I'm like, ⁓
Susan Renaud: ⁓
JOY OFIRA: I mean the number of things that I'm willing to accept as a facet of reality, but that's not okay. Like that's not, you know, I, yeah. So I love the idea that you could help her heal relationships ⁓ on ⁓ a different timeline. also this by ⁓
Susan Renaud: Hahaha! Mm-hmm. Yeah.
JOY OFIRA: I'm not sure which one you were healing or if you were healing them all at once or if it was just sort of like this holistic thing.
Susan Renaud: Right. You know, and I never know when it's going to happen. each person's session is different.
JOY OFIRA: Okay. Yeah. What are some other sort of interesting stories, even if they just feel like kind of fascinating and a wider
Susan Renaud: you know, it's very. ⁓ Sure. So I do this past life regression work and do it with groups. So I it with, you know, family or friends, ⁓ they come town or they want to do something fun and unique. ⁓ I'll come and work a group of them
JOY OFIRA: Okay.
Susan Renaud: And it's long because we do past life regression connecting with your and then, which is really interesting is future life ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Mm, that sounds fun.
Susan Renaud: I knew that would get us. So there were a couple things that showed up in my future life progression that I had an opportunity to experience for myself. I was given the option of going forward 100 years, 200 years or 300 years. Who was I going to be? Where was I going to be in 300 years?
JOY OFIRA: Okay.
Susan Renaud: So I was sent on a mission to help this planet. And this was such a wild and interesting It's not in ⁓ this universe, it's in other universes. And I call it the massive rock planet.
JOY OFIRA: Okay.
Susan Renaud: And it's a massive, massive planet and it keeps growing. It's ⁓ rock. the beings the sentient beings, the intelligent beings, the that can think and formulate and have dreams, they're all ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Okay. Hmm.
Susan Renaud: And the heat that comes to that planet them ⁓ to move better. So it's almost like, you know, here we have cold blooded animals. Well, they kind of need the heat to to keep moving and be active in on their planet. ⁓ they were losing their heat, ⁓ core heat. So I was sent to install a heat ⁓ unit. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Okay. Okay.
Susan Renaud: to maintain the heat of the planet. And now there's this, hole in the planet that they reside in.
JOY OFIRA: Okay.
Susan Renaud: It's like looking at the, you know, going down into this hole, you look at the walls and there's holes in the walls where they exist. They go in there. That's where they have their living quarters. And it's, it's, it's massive. It's just like massive. can barely see the distance from side to the other. ⁓ this thing has to come down ⁓ then it heats the but it also keeps everything else warming and thriving.
JOY OFIRA: Okay.
Susan Renaud: So I was to implement this or machinery to ⁓ maintain the planet ⁓ when each being their heat, they turn into rock.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah.
Susan Renaud: was ⁓ fascinating. there another one happened with one of my clients that was pretty trippy also where she was ⁓ from a water planet. ⁓ And particular planet is like the is like blue jello.
JOY OFIRA: Okay.
Susan Renaud: It's thick, not quite like jello, but it a It's not like water. It's more like ⁓ syrup. But a beautiful blue. for the beings on that planet, it's poisonous. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. Okay.
Susan Renaud: But for beings from other planets, it's very toxic. So they had built, I feel like I'm in a Star Wars movie, they built this city that in a dome.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah.
Susan Renaud: so they could bring beings that came from other planets that were survivalists from other planets to have a place to go to temporarily until they can get relocated permanently, you know, full. But this is like, okay, they got to go through this viscous, thick, poisonous liquid to get to a safe place this liquid, in this dome light where their
JOY OFIRA: ⁓ I see.
Susan Renaud: they are supported in their atmospheres. And they may, they could live out their lives there, sometimes they can be transported to another planet more like their own.
JOY OFIRA: Right. And when you have clients like finding out these kinds of things, or when this happened to you, when you were like, in 300 years, I will be made of rock and I will be installing a thermal cell to make sure that all the other sentient rock beings continue to be able to move and things like that. Would it, what...
Susan Renaud: So, yeah. Mm-hmm.
JOY OFIRA: Like how did that affect you? Like what did you think about that? Like where do you go from there?
Susan Renaud: know, well, one the that is like, ⁓ is that really real? And then like, wow, I would love to be a part of something like that to help other people. ⁓ And this is in a mass amount. So, ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. Right.
Susan Renaud: as a healer I'm seeing it as wow just could helped save thousands of beings ⁓ thinking beings you know so my
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. Right, right. Right. Yeah. Well, there's, mean, there's so many ideas out there. I don't know if you've seen the studies that have been done on Rupert Sheldrake has done a bunch of work. scientist, philosopher scientist who has done these studies to show that the sun is sentient. Our sun is a sentient being. And
Susan Renaud: I-I-Okay.
JOY OFIRA: And you know, there's all these other ideas of sort of panpsychism or the ideas of like that literally everything is sentient. Even on our planet, the rocks are sentient. Maybe they're on a different time scale than we are, right? Maybe it's something like in the Lord of the Rings when the Ents, the tree beings, they move very slowly, right? Like it's driving the hobbits crazy because they're like, ⁓ my God, speed it up. the Ents are trees and so... ⁓
Susan Renaud: Bye.
JOY OFIRA: You know, they have a different way of being a sentient being. ⁓ But that doesn't mean they're not sentient beings. Right?
Susan Renaud: Mm-hmm. Right.
JOY OFIRA: how ⁓ you see the of our reality? given that you can see inside of people's bodies, that's not something most people can do. You can see inside of their cells, you can get down into the molecules and ⁓ you can understand the frequency, the resonance, the vibrations and ⁓ that's where things are either in balance or out of balance given that that's sort of maybe just a general perspective that you have that's different, I this very question, super short. ⁓ you know what I'm saying? ⁓ are living this life that's kind of outside ⁓ of what people are doing, right? Right. not it's not a mainstream clock punching job, right? so ⁓ it has to be informing your views on
Susan Renaud: mainstream. ⁓ Right.
JOY OFIRA: Reality and consciousness and what is this? What are we doing here?
Susan Renaud: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I see more than what's really here. Basically, I, I know more than what's really here. and I love mainstream. So it brings us back to tangibility. You know, it helps keep us grounded.
JOY OFIRA: Bright.
Susan Renaud: it's amazing that we have the mainstream and we can at as gauge and
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: we can go within ourselves not to be stuck or attached to what's happening in mainstream. So if society is having trouble, it's not like I'm checking out or anything, but I've got a bigger perspective of what's really happening how do I love it and how do I go forward in this duality of, you affect my body, but and maybe ⁓ thoughts ⁓ I'm watching news. ⁓ but you can't affect my essence and my soul. That's going to keep flourishing and sending love where it's important and where it's needed.
JOY OFIRA: Mm.
Susan Renaud: It's like, this is the movie of Susan Renaud and I'm watching her and that's good. But then go to the movie number two and see the rest of that movie. it's just ⁓ we are the movie here on this planet. We're not, we're tangible. We're here, but we have bigger self somewhere else. And we're just here to.
JOY OFIRA: It's not all there is.
Susan Renaud: Yeah, we're just here to learn, grow, experience, understand, help become better beings, better humans, better able to. teach people how to love better and love more and love deeply come with peace and ⁓ resolutions.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. Right. Can you talk some more about love and sort of the heart centered part of your work and how it operates when you're doing work,
Susan Renaud: Mm-hmm. this work has me that doorway also open to more love coming in. always go to my heart. when I work with people and I'm so used to I don't even think ⁓ about the intention anymore because I'm already there kind of And I'm still working at making my whole life is like that. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Right. Yeah.
Susan Renaud: All the different aspects of my life is like that, not just my work. You know, ⁓ how can I still be expanded in that way? how I ⁓ the heart is ⁓ the piece.
JOY OFIRA: Right.
Susan Renaud: So I ⁓ to do something, I go to my heart so I can feel my heart beating. And when I do that, I feel more grounded. I can feel my pulses in different areas of my body. So I know I'm more in my body. Number one.
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: And on the downbeat, it's pumping out the energy. So the heart is like a factory. It's pumping out love, right? It's taking in pain and pumping out love. it's like ⁓ ⁓ ⁓ drop into a calm pool. And you can see the water drop ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Mm.
Susan Renaud: the circular ripple that expands and expands it expands completely around the world.
JOY OFIRA: Mm. Mmm.
Susan Renaud: So everyone is getting that love. It is not just in my little office with my clients or ⁓ phone with my clients. It's happening for everyone. And ⁓ I work on my spirituality to love more and to expand my love more by helping pull away my own issues around trust, around anger So then I'll feel more of the divine love. inside me and it's a vibration. It's definitely I can feel a vibration when that's there. When I'm working on people, vibration elevates. I can feel it expanding. ⁓ So when I work on people ⁓ have conversations with people, that's actually happening with them too.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. Yeah, what do you think about the role ⁓ of our bodies, you beyond the physical body, but also with the physical body as a medical intuitive. So how do you see that connection between love, the divine love and the physical body?
Susan Renaud: Yeah, right.
JOY OFIRA: just how use our bodies to communicate love operate on this planet ⁓ in other dimensions, ⁓ potentially through connection that you're with somebody else's body.
Susan Renaud: Interesting question. So, I someone has physical pain ⁓ and I'm on them, and their pain is in the upper right corner of their abdomen.
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: I feel certain things physically if I'm working hands-on. I feel certain things that are going on a weakness in the abdominal wall me okay, there's there's something going on under there So that's with the more tangible pieces ⁓ the physical pieces and then ⁓ it's liver and
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: gallbladder so now I have information ⁓ and There's so many answers for that piece. How is it relate to this particular person?
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: The liver, for example, is about anger. Not only our own, but other people's anger. If we're empathic, we take on other people's pain and anger for them, And then it's also about what's my mission on know, have they ⁓ been fulfilling mission on earth? they in that?
JOY OFIRA: Right. Mm.
Susan Renaud: place yet then the other piece is ⁓ it knows everything what the whole body doing. liver knows ⁓ everything about every part of your body. ⁓ So to the can ⁓
JOY OFIRA: ⁓
Susan Renaud: feed me information about what specifically is happening for this person. that what's the turmoil around a particular emotion or what's going in their life that's affecting them that they can resolve so they can have more peace, they can have less stress, ⁓ so they have less anxiety, so they can have less anger, So ⁓ ⁓ I help create space for love to come in.
JOY OFIRA: Mmm. Mm.
Susan Renaud: So that whole story was just for that one little hands. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: No, that's the best. No, that's I mean, I think that there's a lot of different ways to come to the truth, right? And that coming through the body something that is... ⁓
Susan Renaud: Hehehe.
JOY OFIRA: becoming more and more mainstream the idea that healing energetically through ⁓ your body, right? Somatic that kind of thing, right? That there's so much knowing and so much intelligence within the body and ⁓
Susan Renaud: Yeah. Right, right. Mm-hmm.
JOY OFIRA: It's not just like a meat sack that we're carrying around. It's not like, mean, it's not like your body is just a
Susan Renaud: Mm-hmm.
JOY OFIRA: it also its intelligence. within, like each cell.
Susan Renaud: Yeah, it's like every cell is a computer in my mind. So you know we have memories, have RAM and we have, ⁓ the hard drive memory, right? Every ⁓ has information about your whole life from before you were born. So it's hard to erase computers completely. You can erase them up to seven levels, I think, but the information is still there. And it carries on. Every time we have new cells split and split and resplit, it carries that information on.
JOY OFIRA: Right. Right.
Susan Renaud: So our bodies carry all the information and are we attached to it or not? And how do we become unattached to our memories?
JOY OFIRA: Hmm. do you mean become unattached to our memories?
Susan Renaud: So we can be attached to a memory that pain. So when you go through the whole healing process of being angry, understanding your anger, being okay with your anger, okay, now I can do something about the hurt I have found.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah.
Susan Renaud: So understanding gives you compassion.
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: so that compassion can grow to helping yourself relax the attachment to the memory.
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: So it's about finding that understanding and compassion comes in, love comes in, and it helps you resolve within yourself the pain you had around a certain instance.
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: And so you can still have the memory, but you're not attached to it in a painful way And you can tell even when someone's talking about it ⁓ if they still have edge or not.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Susan Renaud: And so that's what I work with too. If there's an edge in someone's conversation about ⁓ then I know I ⁓ to work with that. I know I need to ⁓ them to be accepting of what's going on within their bodies first and then take the steps. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Mmm. Mm-hmm. you help you work with people to help them find their purpose. ⁓ So can you talk to me about how this is either different or similar to your medical intuitive work? how does that work?
Susan Renaud: So usually being a healer.
JOY OFIRA: Mm-hmm.
Susan Renaud: so ⁓ I have one particular instance happened I have this meetup group to do healing. There were three meditations and one was past, present and future ⁓ And ⁓ I take them into like basic meditation. And sometimes I would take them into a deeper meditation. almost to the point of hypnotic ⁓ you can get to a
JOY OFIRA: Yeah.
Susan Renaud: bigger expanse. when I would do this, this one particular woman started colors. ⁓ I do talk about ⁓ different you may feel your body, including random ⁓ random thoughts. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Okay.
Susan Renaud: some colors, maybe common imagery this planet of whatever ⁓ you may start ⁓ seeing or experience. And particular woman kept colors, And so she ⁓ asked about that and I said, well, is part of your healing gift. It's starting with colors and you're going to of play colors ⁓ with people. So one of her first pieces of homework was take random friend and ⁓ just sit with her to see her colors. And she actually took to a different level So she ⁓ did technical pictures computer work. She could recreate the color was seeing and then what the colors turn into. So she would create another image with the colors that the person needed. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: Hmm. Mm, cool.
Susan Renaud: And so that was like the beginning of what she was starting to do. And she's an amazing healer now. She's profound in going deeper with people ⁓ connecting with source to get bigger answers for them and how to move forward and to clear things. amazing healer.
JOY OFIRA: Do you find when you are with people somewhat randomly? Do you ever feel like you have to tell them something? You're like, I have to tell you this thing.
Susan Renaud: No, I don't. Although, when I go into a bar to go dancing with some friends, I'll totally be drunk and not drink a bit. I can't even get my balance.
JOY OFIRA: Yeah, sure.
Susan Renaud: I walk outside and then all of sudden everything lifts and go, over with. ⁓ Yeah. Yeah. yeah, it's an interesting experience being a healer for sure. ⁓
JOY OFIRA: That's good. You don't go home drunk. Yeah. on that of fun and laughter, is probably a good place for us to close up our discussion. I so you coming on the show ⁓ and talking about your ⁓ incredible work.
Susan Renaud: you so much for having me today and I just love being ⁓ and my with you. Thank you.
JOY OFIRA: ⁓ thank you so much, Susan