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What if fixing healthcare starts with employers taking back control?
In this episode of The EOB Podcast, Justin Leader and Julie Selesnick sit down with Dave Chase, co-founder of Health Rosetta and author of Relocating Health: Taking Back Health Care, Rebuilding Communities, for a conversation about the future of employer-sponsored healthcare.
Fresh off RosettaFest 2026, Dave shares his perspective on how the Health Rosetta movement has evolved from a group of early adopters into a growing national movement challenging the healthcare status quo.
The conversation explores why rising healthcare costs aren't simply a benefits problem—they're an economic and community problem. Dave explains how healthcare dollars flow out of local economies, why employers have more control than they may realize, and what it means to reclaim "health sovereignty."
Justin, Julie, and Dave also dig into PBM contracts, transparency, fiduciary-grade health plans, employer accountability, the changing role of advisors, and whether today's healthcare transparency efforts are actually creating meaningful price discovery.
Plus, Dave discusses the ideas behind Relocating Health and the "Health Rosetta dividend"—the idea that dollars no longer wasted on healthcare can instead support wages, jobs, schools, infrastructure, and local communities. If employers truly want to change healthcare, the question may no longer be whether alternatives exist. It's whether they're willing to choose them.
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📖 Learn More About Relocalizing Health Explore Dave's latest book and his work to help employers, advisors, and community leaders take back control of healthcare spending:
