Plasma Consciousness: The Living Field That Creates Reality Dana Kippel on Awakening & Manifestation

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Welcome to the Derek louder Milk Show. At the Edge
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of Possibility. We fuse science, spirit and adventure alongside healers, scientists, pioneers,
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and mystics to turn potential into practice, create real results.
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Subscribe and join me on the adventure. Dana Kipple, Welcome
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to the show.
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Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. Thanks for
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having me.
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Yes, I'm excited to have you. It's great to connect
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and you do a lot of different things. Your new
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book about plasma maybe a good place for us to start.
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What maybe we could start by talking about, Yeah, what
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is plasma? How do you define it? And how how
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do you sort of weave that into your research.
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Yeah. Sure, So there's plasma in science, which is simply,
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not simply but complexly an ionized gas or otherwise known
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as the force state of matter. There's solid liquid gas,
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and then plasma. There is a plasma that I'm hypothesizing
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that a lot of other people are actually starting to
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talk about. That is an expanded version of this. It
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is a finer plasma that we cannot yet pick up
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with our scientific measurements. More some people have called it
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an ether. I also call it a living ether. It
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is a multi dimensional sentient substance slash field that is
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constantly you know, interacting with our consciousness. It is the
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vehicle for our consciousness. It is alive, just it is
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the fabric of our reality. It is you know, the
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clay that consciousness or you know, God uses to mold
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into reality. And it also means to mold in Greek,
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plasma literally means to mold. So I think that science
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that's studying a three dimensional physical aspect of plasma, whereas
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plasma is really something that expands beyond science into psychology,
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into the metaphysical. And I also believe it is you know,
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in mythology, there was used to be a female god
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named a Shira and then the male god, and I
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think plasma symbolizes this female god that has been suppressed
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for over a thousand years. Yeah.
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Interesting. I sort of think of electric forces as masculine
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and magnetic forces as feminine, and then sort of, yeah, electromagnetism.
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How does electromagnetism fit in with your plasma model?
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Yeah, so I do agree.
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I think electric is more masculine, which is just you know,
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an active principle, and the magnetism is more feminine and
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I think we're seeing that both now, Like electromagnetism shapes
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plasma in science, and you know, our heart has the
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biggest electromagnetic field of the human body, so you know,
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when we're in our heart consciousness that can coherently shape
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you know, this more finer plasma field to where as
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in science electromagnetic waves shape the for state of matter plasma.
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So yeah, I think there's definitely a correlation there, just
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like they shape that. You know, we have our bioelectric
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field and that shapes our fabric of reality as well.
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But you know, I would say that plasma in general,
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you know, everything is kind of like in its own shells,
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right or as above so below like just how electromagnetism
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is the male and female aspect, I think plasma probably is.
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A male and female aspect.
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And then I would also say that you know, plasma
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in itself is slightly leaning more towards a feminine aspect,
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whereas consciousness is more masculine and active.
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And what was your entry point into plasma where and
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I guess sort of like applicable to your own life,
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like how are you like, Okay, I'm I'm picking up
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this this plasma I think it's useful for me.
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Yeah, I didn't actually have any of those thoughts.
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So basically what happened was, you know, I had I
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was very good in math and science as a child,
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I would say gifted even and I never went to college.
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I developed you know, a horrific drug and alcohol addiction.
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I ended up actually working in mental health for ten
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years after I went to rehab when I was twenty
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one and sixteen. Had a very chaotic beginning life, and
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I you know, then became a filmmaker. I owned a
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food restaurant, and then eventually I started meditating when I
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was thirty. Yeah, I've done so many things, and I know,
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I never could have predicted this in a million years.
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And I started meditating because I was going through a
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rough relationship and I just wanted to feel better. And like,
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you know, I realized it was me picking all these
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bad partners, and through meditation, all of a sudden it
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came to me. Plasma kind of found me. This topic
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found me. It was like you're going to write a
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book about, you know, called a new force. Plasma is intelligent,
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it is sentient, It is the vehicle for consciousness. And
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I just knew all these things. It was like it
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was I can't even I really can't put it into words.
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But ever since that happened five years ago, you know,
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I've been on this journey now and I did not
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choose it. I did choose it, but it also chose me.
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And yeah, it's not like I like went into this
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being like, oh, here's plasma and I think this and this.
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It's like no, I kind of knew everything, and then
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I had to work backwards and like come up with
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human terms for what I know in my mind. But
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it's more I like feel and I see it, So
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I had to come up with like words for what
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I just know in my heart, if that makes sense.
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Was it something that was downloaded to you or something
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sort of like always you were aware of but then
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you realized it was time to start describing it.
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No, I was not aware of any of this.
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I mean I was always a strange child, old who
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had gifts, who had you know, intuition and could talk
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to other beings of consciousness.
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And I think because.
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I had a lot of trauma, though a lot of
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the gifts skewed negative, Like you know, I was seeing
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demonic entities and witches and I couldn't sleep in the dark.
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And you know, it's these are one of my core
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theories with plasma, that it reflects the subconscious. So I've
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always interacted with this field, but I thought, you know,
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it was you know, just paranormal bad stuff, and I
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was doomed. And the second I realized that, like I
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the power within me to co create positive experiences, and
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that this field I was interacting with was the plasma
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field and other beings of consciousness or what I would
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call beans of information within this field, it changed.
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The game for me.
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But yeah, I never knew this until that one faded
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day where I meditated and then it was kind of
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dropped into me. And I wouldn't even call it downloaded perhaps, but.
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I mean, there's no other better word for it.
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But it's that, like my higher self knew this information,
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my future self had always had already written this timelines,
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and now I was going to bring it into this
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timeline and co create it with Like who I am
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now as a person?
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Yeah, well i'm in some ways. I think personally I
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would I would love to have more like downloads and
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then sort of work backwards like that. I've sort of
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approached it more from the scientific materialism perspective, like slowly
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discovering things. Yeah, but were you then if you were
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sort of going back and finding the I don't know
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the evidence. What were some of the puzzle pieces you
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started to put together in the beginning.
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Yeah, Well, it's kind of hard because you know, this
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invisible field of plasma that I speak of, there is
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not i would say physical materialists proof right of anything
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I'm saying. I think, well, I'm talking about an experiential field,
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and you know, many people who have experienced it know it.
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It's more of a knowing.
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It's not provable, but I think the more people experiencing it,
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it feels provable because we all know, like, oh, you
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know what I'm talking about.
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You know what I'm talking about.
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But I think the way I kind of work backwards
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is like, of course, my first you know, when I
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heard plasma's intelligent, my first stop was googling plasma, and
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all I could find was the for state of matter plasma.
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And then I slowly kind of learned about the dynamics
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of plasma. And it's weird because I learned about it,
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but I already knew about it, so that was weird.
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But I learned about it just by reading plasma books
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and you know, physics books and you know, like you know,
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like Russian physics books and stuff on plasma. And I
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started recognizing a very good pattern recognition, and uh it
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was a mix of pattern recognition and more downloads, but
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I just, you know, I was like, oh my god,
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like Plasma's I still can't explain it. It's hard now,
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but like Plasma's the divine feminine. I made all these
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connections with Mary Magdalen and the goddess Anana and symbols
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like the rose symbol and you know, the Holy Grail
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and how that was plasma. And I would just learned
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about the dynamics of plasma and how it works with electromagnetism,
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you know, magnetic recombination, dusty complex plasma and the self
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organization and the intelligence and the Cordleuski clouds.
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And I was like, plasma is like.
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Almost like an analog to and then like this four
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D is more like the digital version, and that's not
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a good analogy. But I was like, like this three
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dimensional plasma, I can study and learn more about this
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unseen realm of plasma and how it works with consciousness.
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So Yeah, there were just it was just like my
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brain was firing on all cylinders multidimensionally for the last
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five years.
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I will not explain it.
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Well, it sounds really invigorating in a way.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean part of it, you know.
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I mean, you know, this was going on, and then
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I had my normal human life. So it was very
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polarizing because I had this beautiful thing happening to me
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and I was expanding my consciousness and I was connected
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with this field and aware of what it was, and
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it felt like almost like my cosmic mother, and I
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knew all these things and it was the most coolest
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experience ever. And then you know, I was also trying
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to heal trauma from you know, being molested when I
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was younger, and you know, all being bullied and abuse
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and all these things that were popping up at the
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same time. And you know, I was in a terrible relationship.
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I was not happy, and you know, there's a lot
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going on.
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How do you navigate, I mean, how did you navigate
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like your normal human life and this expansive sort of
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new realm. Yeah, I'm imagining sort of like focusing on
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one and then the other, sort of going back and forth, or.
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I think there was no guidebook because I didn't, you know,
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there was nowhere to turn for anyone else who was
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going through exactly what I was going through. I guess
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I could say, like, you know, I read Carl Jung.
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I read a book called Womb Awakening, which was amazing
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about you know, connecting more with your divine feminine and
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then obviously Carl Jung in like shadow work, and you know,
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there's so much I could relate to with that, but
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like you know, this, this.
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This, you know.
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I would read books on Albert Einmstein, Nikola Tesla, all
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these people, and I couldn't find anyone talking about how
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they were like unhappy in their relationship. So like, I
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just feel like I navigated it the best I could
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where I was like, Okay, I'm having this awakening and
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I'm also you know, not happy in my relationship, but
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I can't get out of it, so I'm too comfortable.
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And it's really because I'm scared of being alone because
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of my adoption abandonment wounds and also the fact that
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I'm not really in love with myself and I'm scared
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to be alone. And I had to just navigate all
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of it. I thank god, you know what, thank god
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I had a therapist. I did therapy with internal family systems,
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this thing called comprehensive resource model and somatic therapy all
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mixed together, and that I think like saved me. I
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think I wouldn't been able to integrate everything I was
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downloading otherwise, Yes, I think I might have went crazy.
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But I had moments where I almost went crazy because
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it was just a lot was going on in my life.
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And then I had moments of like extreme bliss, you know,
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like it's been a crazy.
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Five years.
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And even now I'm dealing with the same patterns in
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a different way where like realizing my worth on another level,
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realizing my to you know, believe in myself because so
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many people doubt you, and you you know, if you
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go up to someone and you're like, oh, okay, I
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think Plasma's intelligent, the vehicle for consciousness. I'm going to
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write a book about it. It's going to do really well.
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I'm also not happy in my relationship. Most people are
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going to tell you, Dana, like you need help, like
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this is you, but no, what really is The truth
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is like it was actually everyone around me who wasn't
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accepting me at the time and most of my life
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like I am not the problem. The problem is I
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don't believe in myself enough and don't love myself enough
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to stand up tall in front of all the other
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people who think I'm a problem. And the second I
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changed that and flip my perspective, I started bringing people
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in my life who actually value me, and I started
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gaining a following on Instagram about plasma. So I'm really
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glad that I stuck through.
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And what's really interesting for people that start gaining a
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following when when there's a lot of attention on you, you know,
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there's a lot of people saying things, all different kinds
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of things right either directly to you or about you.
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feel like you need like a very secure sense of
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who you are. And it sounds like you like, even
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as you were going through that, you had the perspective
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to like see yourself going through it in a way. Yeah,
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you know, as you were like talking sort of almost
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clinically about like oh, in my adoption abandonment wound, but
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like you're observing it and you're in it in the
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same time.
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Yes, And I've always kind of.
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I wrote that a little bit about that in my
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book Why It's called Plasma Consciousness and the New Human Potential.
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I feel like after I started meditating, like my multidimensional
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self like just awoken within me. So I call that
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a mix of like your third, fourth, and fifth dimensional self.
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It really is just like bringing Heaven into Earth. Like
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my higher dimensional self has a perspective within my three
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dimensional consciousness, and.
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I'm able to see things from a very.
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Aware perspective and observe, but I also can be fully
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in it, and sometimes fully in it takes over and
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some and a lot of the time, but the observer
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is always there, which is kind of cool, which is
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why I never completely lose it.
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But what I've learned is.
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That no matter how much I have those dvantage points,
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which I'm really grateful for, if I don't integrate it,
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if I don't embody new choices based on my healing,
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if I don't, you know, make the changes I know
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I need to like it, knowledge is nothing. Like those
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vantage points mean nothing. So I'm really trying to make
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new choices in my life, not be hard on myself,
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and not be obsessed with healing and fixing myself. But
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you know, I'm aware when I need to change something,
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So I'm trying to live more by actually making new.
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Choices, if that makes sense.
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Yeah, if you're willing to share, Like, what would be
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a recent example of that for you?
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Oh?
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Sure, hopefully he'll never listen to this, but you know,
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when I moved to Portland, it's gonna hate that I'm
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saying this. I met this guy and at first, you know,
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I fell into it very fast. I thought we were soulmates.
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And then, you know, he told me he just wanted
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to be friends, and I was like, oh, like that sucks.
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And I think we both liked each other.
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my whole life where I project my magic and value
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into other people. And I think, and I start, you know,
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I put way too much energy into people too soon,
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and I think that that can blow up in my face.
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And I thought, after two years of being single, I
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wouldn't have that same pattern. And I think I was
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also at a very weak point obviously, you know, my
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dad had died, I hadn't dated in two years. I
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moved to a new city and I meet this guy
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and he's really fun and awesome and just like me
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in many ways. But it showed me that I'm still
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what I would call like anxiously attached like I I
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you know, just like I have an obsession with plasma,
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I can also put that onto people. And I think,
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because there's so much stuff I still don't want to
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deal with within me, with my own feelings, when I
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find someone else, I'm like, oh, I could deal with
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thinking how I can fix them, or you know, wonder
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about them, wonder about them and you know, how what
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am I going to do with them this weekend? And
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it's kind of like an escape for my life because
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my life is so intense and it feels like almost
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like a drug. And I'm not to say that nothing
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will ever happen with this person again, or like they're
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they're a good person and you know, they just have
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their own stuff, so do I.
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But I think I noticed there.
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Was like a you know, an anxious and avoidant thing
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almost going on, or like I think I just, you know,
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I didn't do anything wrong, but I think that we
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got into it too fast, and I if I was
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in my like adult self and not in that more
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survival consciousness mode even with all the work I've done
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on myself. I would have gone slower with them. I
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would have thought about, oh, do they have this and
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this and this quality that I could even date them
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right now, which which you know they you know, they're
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going through a lot of their own stuff. So I
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don't think either of us were ready to date. But
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there's also something to be said for like just you know,
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I wouldn't. I don't know if I would say the
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word falling in love maybe a little bit, But like
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why I think I'm more just hard on myself like that,
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Why not, Like I don't I dove in what happened
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would have happened even if we went slow, because this
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person was not ready for something.
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So it's really I've learned. Anyway.
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My point is I've learned to be less hard on myself,
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to remember my value, and also to like let other
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people almost like audition for me, instead of all of
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a sudden thinking Oh I need to get this person,
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I need to chase them, I need to show them
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I'm awesome. Instead it's like, no, I that's from childhood.
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I have to remember, like, oh, did they have everything
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I need? And that's almost never the case. Yeah, Anyway,
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that's what I went through. I don't even know if
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what you asked me, but I went through that recently,
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which was a struggle.
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Yeah, thank you for sharing. I think you know you're
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you're popular on social media, a lot of lot of
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people follow you, and I think I remember you saying
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something in one of the interviews I heard with you.
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It was like you you still feel, I don't know,
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a little bit lonely, And it was kind of interesting
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to think of, like, you know, you're going on podcasts,
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you're hosting podcasts, You're you're like in demand, write your
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ideas and stuff, and yet this juxtaps of still like
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loneliness in personal life. And I suppose I feel that
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in a way, like we've we've been in Saint Louis
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for five years now, I'm slowly building up our community
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of other weirdos to talk to you.
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Yeah, it was just it.
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Was interesting to hear to hear you say that. I'm
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sure like a lot of people will be like, Dana,
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I'll be your friend, I want to hang out with you.
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So many people say that online, but like the truth is, like,
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you know, I'm in Portland and I have like two girlfriends,
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and you know they both have lives, and sometimes I
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get stuck in like, you know, the pain of my
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past and the story of I'm alone. I'm alone because
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I did feel alone, you know, I felt you know,
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I was adopted. I didn't know where my birth parents were.
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I also didn't feel super connected to my own parents,
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which I've talked about in the past. And I was
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bullied a lot. I had best friends, but they all
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like randomly moved away. And you know, every boyfriend I've
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ever had is either cheated on me or lied to
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me in some way in the past.
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I will not accept that now.
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But I just showed a lot for like my own
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self worth and like thinking, you know, no one would
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stick around, no one ever has, and I don't think
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that's the case now.
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My point is I can get in.
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That state when and that's a you know, it's hard
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when you're a successful woman because you would either deal
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with people being jealous or you're intimidating, or you know,
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people think they have to be this certain person to
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be with you, and then they sabotage things with you,
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or people kind of get strange, Like there's just so
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many complexities to relationships. And I've just always struggled with
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finding people I could actually trust that respect me because
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I'm so open. I really am so kind and I
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am trustworthy and I have such a big heart and
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maybe I am intense, but I don't really care. And
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I've had trouble finding people that can hold all of
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that and still hold their own life. And anyway, going back, yes,
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I was lonely because you know, I just moved here
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and I met this guy and he felt like my
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best friend, and you know, I wanted to hang out
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with them all the time because I had no one
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else to hang out with. And you know, I had
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these two girlfriends, but they both are in relationships, so
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it's like, of course I'm gonna want to hang out
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with some Like I don't play games. I don't know
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if it's because I'm like neurodivergent, but like, if I'm free,
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I'm not going to pretend I'm not free. And I
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heard in dating that's not a good thing because it's
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not leaving mystery.
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But I just go all into things.
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And maybe I heard that same stuff too about dating,
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but that I never paid any attention to that. No, yeah,
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I'm the same way. I'm like, if I want to
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spend time with you, You spend all kinds of time together. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's like I'm not going to pretend to be
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I That's what I'm thinking. It's just I haven't met
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the right person right and in friendships, like I've met
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some of the right people, but yeah, I've just No
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matter how many people will follow me online, the truth
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is I work from home. I'm alone almost twenty four
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to seven, besides going to dinner with a friend here
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or there, because those are adult relationships, and.
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I'm just almost alone all the time.
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And then you know, my dad away, my birth parents
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I only speak to maybe once a month. And you know,
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my mom is you know, eighty and living in Florida,
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and God bless her, she's the only I call her
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every night.
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But once again, she's not around me, and.
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She knows she's not the most healthiest person for me
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to beat around all the time anyway, even though I
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love her.
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So yeah, I'm alone all the time.
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So it's just true. So when I find someone I like,
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I get excited. But maybe that's too much for them
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because I maybe they have a lot more friends than
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I do. But the truth is, I just you know,
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I don't I don't work as a waitress with all
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these friends all day, every day, so the grass is
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always greener. I've heard this all the time. Success can
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be lonely, and it's true. It can be lonely. That is,
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it is true. But I do know that I will
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find my people and I and my person is out
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there and I'm very confident in that, and I just
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have to become my own best friend.
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And that's what I'm working on.
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Yeah, thanks for sharing. Yeah, I interviewed I don't know
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if you're familiar with Jerry Sargent. I had him on
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my show a few months ago, and he brought into
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my awareness because he was adopted and there was a
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whole plot to it was in place before he was born.
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Even they would like He told me how they track
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the trajectory of certain souls that are going to be
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born and ones that are going to make a big
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difference for the light. They will try to sabotage from birth,
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creating conditions like I mean, you don't even hear his
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birth story. It's it's too intense. But then I realized
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that almost happened to me. They tried to send a
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different baby home with my parents and my dad only
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at the last minute was like, wait a second, this
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isn't the right baby. And so I was actually able
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to be sent home with my family and have my
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sort of normal life track. But I guess it could
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have gone totally the other way. But there's there's like
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a whole system in place to sabotage the trajectories of
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influential star seeds. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, well that makes sense.
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Yeah, go ahead, agree. You know, when I heard your story,
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that's what I thought of.
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Yeah, I mean one could definitely think that, especially just
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you know, even when so funny about sabotage.
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I think my mom would be okay with me sharing this.
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My birth mom, she actually flew to Kentucky or Kansas
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have a late state abortion with me because she knew
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she couldn't keep me and her family was very religious
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and she was only.
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Seventeen, and her grandma wanted her to keep me.
486
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And the night before I was going to be aborted,
487
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:39.960
her grandma died and she decided to keep me and
488
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give me up for adoption to set and flew back
489
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home and didn't have the abortion.
490
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:45.480
But I almost did not make it here. Wow.
491
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And then also and also her and my birth father
492
00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:51.799
only slept together once, so I was definitely like, you know,
493
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.519
my chances is a gain who were almost impossible, and
494
00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:58.279
then I almost died during birth, So my chances again
495
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:00.759
here have been rough. And you know that traumas held
496
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.920
in my body, you know, like even with a you know,
497
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:06.559
and this is not my birth mom's fault, but like
498
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.640
when you're a baby and you're feeling you're inside a
499
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.160
woman and you know she's giving you away, you know
500
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:13.359
she wants you, but she also doesn't want you. Just
501
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:14.799
like if I was seventeen, I'd be like, I don't
502
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:16.440
want this get out of me, but I would also
503
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.119
love it. Like all that stuff gets imprinted in me.
504
00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.119
So of course I'm living a blueprint right now where
505
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:24.400
I'm like, I'm alone, nobody wants me, so I have
506
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:29.160
to those patterns imprint in life and plasma right the
507
00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.799
fabric of reality. It gives you what your subconscious wants,
508
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:35.519
not what your consciousness wants. So I still have these
509
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:38.000
core beliefs that I'm really working hard to undo, and
510
00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:41.400
I know they're there still, and it's giving me people
511
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:44.160
like that, and it's given me people like that to
512
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.599
remind me to love myself. Every person is a callback
513
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:50.880
to love, every demon, every you know, every bad thing
514
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:52.799
that happens, this is to call it to strength in
515
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.119
our faith and our love and ourselves. And I'm just
516
00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:00.880
on that path. And unfortunately, I had a very very tough,
517
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:07.079
disconnected life mentally, and you know, I'm trying. You know,
518
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.480
when I'm alone, a lot of those memories of trauma,
519
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:14.200
you know, molestation, of bullying, of you know, addiction and
520
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.160
mistakes I'm making addiction, all of those come into my head.
521
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:19.480
So of course I don't like being alone. But you
522
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:22.799
have to be alone and sit with those to eventually
523
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.119
love being alone. And you know, I've been alone my
524
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:27.440
whole life, but I still don't like it.
525
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.599
So it's so funny. And the truth is, I'm not alone.
526
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.640
I have acquaintances, I have some friends, and it's normal
527
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:34.680
as an adult to be alone. I think the problem
528
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:37.559
was as a kid it was excruciating and I have
529
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.519
to let myself fuel those things still, so I think, yeah,
530
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:44.240
the more you know, I feel it and change the
531
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:47.279
story and my subconscious, the more my life will get better.
532
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:49.640
And the more it has gotten better, it's gotten way better,
533
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:51.480
but there's still struggles.
534
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:52.599
It's my point.
535
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:55.039
Yeah, I just want to acknowledge you for you know,
536
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.680
being being open about everything. I think it probably helps
537
00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:02.079
a lot of people that can identify with different aspects
538
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:06.720
of your story. Yeah, how let's tie this back with plasma,
539
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.559
Like if you're saying, like, okay, trauma is stored in
540
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:15.480
my physical body, but we're creating reality through plasma, Like
541
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.759
consciousness is creating reality through plasma. Like how can we
542
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:21.880
weave a knowledge of plasma in with trying to change
543
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:23.200
our physical experience?
544
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:25.039
Yeah, and I do all the time.
545
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:28.480
So basically like, okay, so we're surrounded by this like
546
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.440
what I would call four dimensional plasma taurus. Other people
547
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:34.720
call it a biofield. So you know we're in the
548
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:36.960
middle of that. This is our consciousness and our body
549
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.559
which holds this trauma. It also is held in our
550
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:43.559
memory field. Our consciousness, our memories are imprinted in this
551
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.519
field upside of us. But it's it's like a mir keba,
552
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:49.359
like we all have one. A plasma bubble is around everyone.
553
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:53.319
So if my energy field holds these traumatic memories, and
554
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:55.880
what I call consciousness is a feedback loop, it's like
555
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:59.440
an infinity, So my consciousness is always feedback into in
556
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.319
and out, in and out like a taurus. And if
557
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:05.519
my consciousness is constantly feedbacking with reality based on my
558
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:10.240
inner beliefs, it's what I call plasma consciousness synergy. By
559
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.960
changing my consciousness, by healing my trauma and my energy field,
560
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:18.880
I change the spectacle, the perspective my taurus is looking through,
561
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.599
my consciousness is looking through. So I will literally interface
562
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.359
with reality differently, which will bring me different things every
563
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.000
time I change my state of consciousness, which is just
564
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.559
like the reticular activating system, where you think of a
565
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:33.720
red car, you'll start to see a lot of red cars.
566
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:35.759
That is one option.
567
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:39.240
That is how you're noticing different things by having So
568
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:40.160
if I'm focused on.
569
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:41.039
I'm alone, I'm alone.
570
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.160
I'm alone, and I'm even doing it today, the universe
571
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:46.480
is going to prove to me.
572
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:47.240
That I'm alone.
573
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If I all of a sudden, literally all I have
574
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.640
to do is heal it and change that story. It
575
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.160
will start showing me I'm not alone. For whatever reason,
576
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:56.960
I've just had resistance because maybe that narrative serves me
577
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.599
in some way. Maybe by thinking I'm alone, I actually
578
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:01.960
don't have to connect with people and then lose them again,
579
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.720
you know, it's so layered, it's so annoying. But yeah,
580
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:10.319
basically our plasma feeds back with this you know, memory
581
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:15.119
field of ourselves, and we have to heal the memories
582
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.039
and change the story to change what we bring in
583
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:18.519
our life.
584
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.240
So like recently, I did it with money.
585
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:24.559
I healed my money consciousness and my money believes the
586
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:27.079
fact that I couldn't be abundant, it couldn't happen to me.
587
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:29.920
And I literally went from living at my mom's and
588
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:34.319
making no money and being completely broke to affording a
589
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:36.920
very nice apartment and making a lot of money every
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00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.039
month in Portland in three months.
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That is magic.
592
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.359
Can you talk more about how you did that?
593
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.319
Yeah, I mean I think there's so many factors, and
594
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:50.880
I don't think anything is a quick fix. I think
595
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.960
and there's divine timing to everything. But I literally just
596
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:58.039
started thinking, like I started writing down.
597
00:29:58.319 --> 00:29:59.200
And there's this girl.
598
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:03.079
Her name is is Haley and her instagram is in
599
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.240
Awe manifestation. She talks about this, if your nervous system
600
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.519
can't hold you know, the amount of money you bring in,
601
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.960
you'll always lose it, which is why people who win
602
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.720
the lottery will lose the money, right away. So I
603
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:19.680
had to build my nervous system relationship, which my nervous
604
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.480
system is literally my energy feel to my body. With
605
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.880
that interfaces with plasma. I had to retrain my nervous system.
606
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:29.599
So you know, when I used to think, oh, I'll
607
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.759
make ten thousand dollars a month, I could think that,
608
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:33.319
but it didn't feel right in my body.
609
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:34.400
I felt resistance.
610
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:36.680
I felt like I couldn't really believe that whatever happened
611
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.359
to me, And I had to kind of rewire myself
612
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.200
by journaling, by doing you know, body exercises and being like, no, like,
613
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.960
but why can't that happen to me? Like I'm believing
614
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.839
something a story either way, so I just need to
615
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.960
change the story. So I think it was one about
616
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.720
rewiring all my beliefs around money and questioning my consciousness
617
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.160
and being like, yeah, but why like and then just
618
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:00.839
believing the opposite, Oh, no, it can happen to me.
619
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.119
And then it literally started to like it's literally that crazy.
620
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.359
And then also once again healing my trauma, Like I
621
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.640
had a very big attachment to abundance needs to come
622
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.440
through my mom and dad. So I would take money
623
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.519
for my parents a lot, and it served me in
624
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:20.000
a way where I didn't have to you know, I
625
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.319
didn't have to start standing on my own two feet,
626
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.880
or you know, I was living at my mom's because
627
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.119
I had this belief ingraned in me.
628
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:27.480
Men.
629
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:31.359
My therapist figured out that my abundance. When I was younger,
630
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.359
I the only way I connected with my parents was
631
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.920
through money, through them getting me gifts or them buying
632
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:37.480
me food.
633
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:39.359
We didn't have that.
634
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:43.640
Intimate relationship you know healthy families have. So as I
635
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:47.160
was older and trying to reconnect with my parents, I
636
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.400
only knew how to do it through them giving me money.
637
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.359
It was almost like iquated money with survival. So my
638
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.960
ingrained belief was that I would almost die if I
639
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.559
was to live on my own and fund and get
640
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.559
money through my own creations. I was like, no, I
641
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:04.599
was stuck in this frozen child state of no, like
642
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.240
I the only way I can connect is to get
643
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.680
money from my parents, and it might not make sense
644
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:11.920
to some people and it might to others. So I
645
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:14.160
had to literally say no, like I can connect to
646
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.440
myself and not die. And I almost had to go
647
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.200
like this through this weird ego death and and I
648
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.720
heal that in my body and I let out you know,
649
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:26.279
emotions and anger and crying, and you know, worked on
650
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:29.039
that with my therapist and then yeah, throughout time that healed.
651
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:33.559
And you know that that and the belief systems both
652
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:38.799
together created this new version of me where I believe
653
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.319
that I can make tons of money off my creations
654
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.039
and you know, I'm worthy of abundance and it's not
655
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.279
even a greed thing and I don't have to work
656
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:47.920
as hard for it. I can just do what I
657
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:49.799
love and play and it will come to me. And
658
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.759
you know that works now, whereas I used to struggle
659
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.440
way more for money and I made half the money
660
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:55.039
I make now.
661
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.119
So yeah, it's pretty weird.
662
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.559
Yeah. I have have a client and a friend who
663
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.440
you know, she was growing her organization from like ten
664
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.400
million to one hundred million, and it seemed like the
665
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:11.319
barrier she was running into was like her personal capacity
666
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.839
for that just to like flow through her system.
667
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:14.599
Yep. You know.
668
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.119
So it's like, yeah, it's like a really an energetic
669
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:21.680
capacity in some ways, because you all energy could fry
670
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.079
your physical body if you if you if you can't
671
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:30.440
maintain I think about it in terms of personal power,
672
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.759
like if you're leaking personal power then you can't hold
673
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.960
as much I don't know, views on social media or
674
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.480
cash flowing through your organization or whatever it might be,
675
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:40.799
you know.
676
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:46.680
Yeah, And I would also say, so, well, you just
677
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:52.880
brought up with some interesting the energy thing, like it's
678
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.680
not even just about money, like money is a great
679
00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:00.759
cherry on top for life and you know, freedom and stuff.
680
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:06.000
But it like I had to also really think about
681
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.639
what I wanted, like Okay, yeah, I want to make
682
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:10.920
one hundred thousand dollars a month, but like what does
683
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:11.400
that take?
684
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:13.679
And do I even want to be like that right now?
685
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:15.639
Or like do I value freedom?
686
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.159
And I could just make you know, twenty thousand and
687
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.920
fifteen thousand a month, but I can how and how
688
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.199
can I do that in a way where I still
689
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:26.559
feel free? And I think we can literally arcontect our futures.
690
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.119
So I wrote down, you know, like I only want
691
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.800
to work a few hours a week or I want
692
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:32.199
to you know, work on this this and this and
693
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.559
make this this and this money. And it's kind of
694
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.679
like just thinking about there's no rules, how much money
695
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:39.280
do you want and what do you actually want to
696
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.159
do for it? And my nervous system right now could
697
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:44.400
only take the like ten thousand a month and this
698
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:45.880
is what I'll do for it, and then the fifteen
699
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:48.400
thousand a month. So I think it's about like working
700
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.079
up to it and also thinking like why you want something,
701
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.559
because all of us, you know, think money's the answer,
702
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:56.880
but it's not. Because I'm just as miserable now as
703
00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:59.440
when I had no money, you know, because I'm still
704
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:00.519
working on the other shit.
705
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.320
So I mean, I'm not miserable. I shouldn't even say that.
706
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:06.320
But like I had these I'm still here as the
707
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.360
same data. Yes, I'm making more money and that's changed,
708
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:11.920
but like I'm dealing with the same relationship mistakes, Like
709
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:13.960
it's it's it's it.
710
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:15.119
Should not be the goal.
711
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:17.840
It is one thing, and I'm so blessed that I've
712
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:19.840
been able to manifest that in my life now.
713
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:21.719
But the goal for me.
714
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.159
Is really like a holistic overall wellness of like peace
715
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:29.159
of mind, loving myself, my self worth in relationships, Like
716
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.440
I think relationships mean more to me or you know
717
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:41.880
for sure, Yeah.
718
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.280
Since you've brought up designing how how you want to
719
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.679
make money and playing around and so you know, I
720
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.679
was as I watched some of your short you know
721
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:53.679
Instagram reels or whatever it is. I found myself curious,
722
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.239
like how you decide to make a video or like
723
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.039
what's your approach to Okay, this is a bit of
724
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.280
research that I want to share with the world, Like
725
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.079
how do you how do you go about it?
726
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:05.039
It's so funny.
727
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:09.440
It also kind of finds me so like either I'll
728
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.119
just come across something randomly and I'm like, oh, that's interesting,
729
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:13.679
and then I'm like, here's what I think about that,
730
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:15.320
and I'm like, oh, let me record this, like it
731
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:18.320
takes like ten minutes. Or I'll be like, oh, I
732
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:20.239
want to you know, I want to watch this movie
733
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:21.920
and I'm like, oh, let me make a video about
734
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.280
ten cool metaphysical movies. Then I'll just like, like, none
735
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.400
of it's a thought process, really, I would say, it's
736
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:28.840
more I just get in a flow state.
737
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.639
Yeah, Like the information definitely finds me. I would say like.
738
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.239
Ten percent of the time I'll google like plasma or
739
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.519
consciousness and just see what's new in the news and
740
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:39.840
how I can share my own opinion on it, or
741
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.880
like new physics news. But most of the time it's
742
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.159
just like the way the idea for my book, it's
743
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.039
just like it found it finds me and it's a
744
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:49.559
non logical process.
745
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.280
I'm just passionate about it. I'm having fun.
746
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.599
I make the video. I do not overthink it. I
747
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.039
just flow, let it flow. I don't think how it's
748
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.440
going to come off, what I'm saying, if I'm right
749
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.960
or wrong. I just I express myself and I have
750
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:06.639
fun doing it, and that is how it works.
751
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:10.519
Well, that's that's actually I think how I first came
752
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:12.599
to be aware of you. My friend sent me a
753
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:15.320
video where you're like, you want to learn real magic? Like,
754
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:20.480
here's ten books. Yeah, and that's kind of my thing
755
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:24.639
is like how can we make magic real? How can
756
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.360
we weave magic into our lives and apply metaphysical or
757
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.159
magical concepts into like just how we run our normal,
758
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:34.239
everyday world. So people send me that stuff all the time. Yeah,
759
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:35.679
and I was like, okay, and I don't think I
760
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.119
had read any of those books that you recommend.
761
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:38.599
It.
762
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:39.199
It's interesting.
763
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:44.719
There's a lot of cool books out there, and magic
764
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.320
is magic is a very real thing and much more normal.
765
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.480
If we like magic is just to say magic is
766
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.960
anything we make it. Magic is what I would what
767
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.920
I call plasma consciousness synergy. It's just different ways of
768
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.639
interfacing with realc and it's very possible. And it's all
769
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.239
about like finding your unique magic, like I think a
770
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.000
lot of us because obviously there's a lot of occult
771
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.719
books in alchemy. Those are all just ideas people had
772
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:12.840
that you know. Now a lot of people believe and
773
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:16.000
they work. It's more about belief. So if you can
774
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.360
believe that you can do certain things and you're working
775
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:21.360
on that, you know, frequency working on that every day
776
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:26.239
and discovering your own inner magic, that you'll find really
777
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.639
cool stuff that you haven't read in books. And that's
778
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.760
kind of like what I want to share with people.
779
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:34.039
Yeah, I'm glad you said that. I was going to
780
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:38.239
say something similar. You know, I had read seven hundred
781
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.239
books over ten years, and then I kind of stopped
782
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:47.639
because I was prioritizing like going directly through meditation or
783
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.559
channeling or something like that or you know. This this year,
784
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.960
I did an experiment where I was talking to the
785
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:57.920
oldest tree of each species that I could find, wow
786
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:01.199
to like you know, just learn from them, yeah, and
787
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.440
just getting that direct first hand knowledge. Yes, because I
788
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:10.440
because I realized I was reading and aggregating wisdom and
789
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:14.480
then applying it, but there was no like going back
790
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.599
to first principles, and I realized that was something I
791
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:18.159
needed to do.
792
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:23.480
Yes, yes, your own magic is literally it's like indigenous wisdom.
793
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.719
It's you're in this informational feedback with reality.
794
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:30.199
And I think that is the way that.
795
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.800
We're going to actually, you know, create real change on
796
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.920
this earth in real magic. And books are okay, right,
797
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.079
but I think it needs to be like a thirty seventy,
798
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:43.639
like a seventy of your own experiential and then like
799
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.119
thirty percent read books and they'll inspire you too.
800
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.559
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was thinking, how you know, like
801
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:54.480
original herbalists. Let's take like a Chinese medicine practitioner six
802
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:59.320
thousand years ago. They would probably go out and look
803
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.920
at plans and then talk to plants, and the plants
804
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.159
would be like try me for this, and they would go,
805
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:05.960
you know, someone in their village would have some sort
806
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:09.119
of ailment, and they come back and like squish up
807
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:12.800
the plant and put it on the person and oh gosh,
808
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:16.079
it worked. Yeah, and it's like okay because the plant
809
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:19.400
told me try this, you know. But then it becomes
810
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.280
like they write it down and then everyone starts practicing
811
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.760
it this way, but it's like all of a sudden,
812
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.199
it creates a limited application.
813
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.800
Right, Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
814
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.320
I think you know that's why I know thyself is
815
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:35.199
the most important quote I think ever made.
816
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:46.400
Yeah, I'm still curious about when you think about the
817
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:54.159
physical world, material reality, and if the material world is
818
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:58.800
sort of created moment by moment through consciousness, what is
819
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.840
the role of plasma in physical reality creation process?
820
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:06.239
Let me see if I got this right.
821
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.480
So the role of the plasma I'm speaking of, Yeah,
822
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:11.239
like in the role of creating reality.
823
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:13.719
Let me ask it in a different way. How in
824
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.760
your view, how's material reality created?
825
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:16.880
Yeah?
826
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.480
Sure, so I would say that there is I call
827
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.639
them plasma spherals. They're very small, finer than anything we
828
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:25.039
could study right now in science.
829
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:26.360
I think one day will prove it.
830
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:30.480
But these just small, small, small bubbles, empty bubbles that
831
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.280
can be filled with consciousness, uh or like colored with consciousness.
832
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:37.679
I guess you could say they're like small fluid bubbles,
833
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.920
like we're in a secret little ocean of and uh,
834
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.840
you know, they're the finest plasma you could ever think of.
835
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:48.719
And you know that's how it starts, and then consciousness
836
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:51.800
comes in and kind of colors them different colors creates
837
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:55.679
almost like the pixels of reality. And you know, that
838
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.320
goes from you know, what I would call fifth dimensional
839
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:01.440
plasma to fourth dimensional plasma, which is where you know,
840
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:04.320
emotions and thoughts and the dream world just start coming in.
841
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.440
That's in you know, in time, and it's more circular time,
842
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.880
backwards time, forwards time. And then there's third dimensional plasma,
843
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.559
which is you know, physical plasma. So I think, you know,
844
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.239
there's somewhere between fourth dimensional whereas the invisible and third
845
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:24.119
dimensional which is visible plasma. And somehow, and I don't
846
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:26.719
know how yet, it goes from non physical to physical,
847
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:28.599
and I think one of the ways it goes from
848
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.199
non physical to physical is literally humans. Humans are that
849
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:35.400
interface where creators, where we have the thought and then
850
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.119
we make a building. I mean, you know, this earth
851
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.639
was just this earth, and look how much shit is
852
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.440
on this earth. Where did it all come from? We
853
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:45.320
created it?
854
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:48.039
So it's just so beautiful to think about.
855
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.719
And you know, you know, plasma is a you know,
856
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.280
ionized gas and then it goes to a gas and
857
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:56.679
then a liquid and then a solid. So obviously, if
858
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:58.639
those are the four states of matter and that's the
859
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:03.599
most you know, loose state of manner. It probably keeps going,
860
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:08.599
but it plasma obviously turns into a solid at some point.
861
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:11.920
So like, of course, realities I would say, you know,
862
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:14.639
created from that. And you know there's people who think
863
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.559
light is the ultimate thing. I would still say, like
864
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:21.280
light and plasma kind of work with each other, you know,
865
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:22.480
to create reality.
866
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:23.440
And you know light.
867
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:26.199
Carries consciousness, right, So that's why I call it plasma
868
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:27.320
consciousness synergy.
869
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.079
But yeah, that's a whole I don't know if that
870
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:31.920
made sense.
871
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.760
But so the so I apprenticed under Shamann for the
872
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:42.119
last several years, and he said something like in the
873
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:47.360
fourth dimension, there are things that are plasmated onto your
874
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.400
light bodies. And I was like, what does that even mean?
875
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:53.039
But get that?
876
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:57.000
Do you get that? Yeah, So when I think of plasmated,
877
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.159
because he's also used the term plasmated when he talks
878
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:03.840
about crop circle for example, like they are plasmated to
879
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:09.119
have all kinds of different meanings and in effects, so
880
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:11.880
that so in a crop circle will appear, but it's
881
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:15.119
a plasmation. And then if we have fourth dimensional light
882
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.199
bodies and things can be plasmated onto it, it makes
883
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:19.199
me think of information.
884
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.960
So yeah, yeah, exactly what.
885
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.599
Would that even mean to plasmate something onto alec?
886
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.679
Yeah, well, it's so funny the word plasmate because Philip K.
887
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:33.199
Dick talk wrote a book called vallis Fast Active Living
888
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:36.280
and Intelligence System and he wrote about plasmate and this
889
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.760
like pink laser, that was intelligent.
890
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:40.159
And I know he was talking about plasma.
891
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.360
It's actually a crazy wormhole to go down if you
892
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.920
haven't gone into it. You know, he might have been
893
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.039
in slight psychosis at times, but I think he was
894
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.639
channeling very real information about plasma and it's a lovely
895
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:56.800
wormhole to go down. But I you know, I think
896
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.360
when I talked about this four dimensional plasma field, it
897
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.920
is the field of information. And what information is is
898
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.639
imprinted consciousness. So like there's there's light, there's consciousness, there's
899
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.079
free will, and then it imprints on the four D
900
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:14.079
plasma field which holds memory, which holds information. What is
901
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.519
information and design that is information. It is something else
902
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.039
that can be changed. It is something where we all
903
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:24.559
as a collective consciousness, and it also is called the
904
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.159
collective unconscious by the way, but I think it's becoming
905
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.800
more conscious. We all have these agreed upon beliefs about
906
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.559
reality that create the rules that create space time. This
907
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:38.639
four dimensional you know field is imprinted with our consciousness,
908
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:42.199
which creates this memory and information. But the information can
909
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:46.400
be changed or upgraded when you consciousness awareness enters it. Right,
910
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.800
So when where light bodies or when what I would
911
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.280
call when we come down from our higher selves, as
912
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.400
this array of light is this fifth dimensional you know energy,
913
00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.960
we come through the fourth dimensional plasma that hooks you know,
914
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.800
comes on to us, and then you know, stays is
915
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.760
our biofield or our four dimensional layer, and now we're
916
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:08.880
in three dimensional reality with that four dimensional layer, and
917
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:11.159
then I'm sure we also have the fifth dimensional layer.
918
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:13.599
So when we die, we just go back through that,
919
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.679
you know, you know, just because our three dimensional bodies go,
920
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.679
we're still having our fourth dimensional bodies, which carries our consciousness.
921
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:24.000
That's why plasma is a vehicle for consciousness. That's why
922
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:27.119
plasmoids in the sky might carry consciousness. It is a
923
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:31.639
vehicle for consciousness and also for information, which is different
924
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:36.320
than consciousness. Information once again is imprinted consciousness, but it
925
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.559
does not have its own free will in my opinion,
926
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.880
and then consciousness has free will and you know, it's
927
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:43.400
like a literal other being of consciousness.
928
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.119
So yeah, I would say that.
929
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:51.960
Yeah. Interesting, And you were talking about how as you
930
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.719
were healing yourself you were able to you know, create
931
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.800
a different financial reality for yourself, and then that reminded
932
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.679
me again of another shamanistic principle, was like to create
933
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:08.360
reality different you first create your perspective differently, to perceive
934
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.599
yourself in the world differently, which is why I think, yeah, honestly,
935
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:14.880
the best thing instead of having a military, we should
936
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.159
have a like perception core, like a group of people
937
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.519
that are trying to perceive the world differently so that
938
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.559
we can like resolve conflicts through meditation for example.
939
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:28.239
No, it's so true, and I think there's a lot
940
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.599
of us who probably could resolve those conflicts. And the
941
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:32.440
funny thing is like none of us seem to be
942
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:35.920
in power. And it seems like, you know, I'm not
943
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.960
trying to be conspiracy like, but it seems like the
944
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.559
people that really do own the big corporations, who you know,
945
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:42.440
there's obviously free energy out there, they.
946
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:43.599
Don't want to make changes in that.
947
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:48.119
You know, it just seems like stubborn survival based people
948
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:50.320
Like that's another thing with money. Just because you have
949
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.679
tons of money doesn't mean you have an evolved consciousness.
950
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.159
It just means that their belief system is different than yours.
951
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:57.280
So you know, a lot of these people are stuck
952
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:01.280
in still survival consciousness where there's scared to make these changes.
953
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:03.559
But I believe that there's all this stuff out.
954
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.480
There, and I love your idea, and I just think
955
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.320
it's now okay, are the world leader is going to
956
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:09.119
wake the fuck up?
957
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:14.039
Or you know? I think I think what can happen
958
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.519
is like if enough people are perceiving the world differently,
959
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:22.320
then almost overnight, like the world leaders, and this gets
960
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.960
into like Mandela effects and reality shifts and stuff like,
961
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:26.960
we might just all sort of wake up on a
962
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:30.480
different timeline with different more evolved leaders.
963
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:32.760
I agree, I think. I mean I do that in
964
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:33.519
my daily life.
965
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:35.239
If I don't like how my life is going, I
966
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:36.920
say I'm going to wake up in a new timeline,
967
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:41.159
and I usually do. So I think collectively that that's
968
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:44.000
some magic that we could all do together. If we really, really,
969
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.159
you know, believed it that we all woke up with
970
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.400
better leaders, I think we would wake up and the
971
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leaders would be shifted.
972
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.320
So yeah, I really do actually believe that.
973
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:56.840
Yeah, maybe there's an experience it out there, an experiment
974
00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:01.719
we could run here. How do you personally know that
975
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:03.679
you're on a new timeline?
976
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:05.559
It is a feeling.
977
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.280
It just I can't explain it logically, but I can
978
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:11.679
feel that I am. Also, there are things that will
979
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.440
show up in the day that I've never came across. Like,
980
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:17.000
you know, I'll like yesterday, I wanted to be a
981
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:18.920
new timeline, and then I wrote my diary that I
982
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:21.000
wanted a new pair of shoes. My friend texted me
983
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.199
later on, Hey, I had these shoes I'm giving away.
984
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:27.519
I you know, I was given free advice on how
985
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:32.159
to grow my YouTube, and you know, you know, you
986
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.880
know I was dealing with I'll just say it, but
987
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.039
like the fallout from that guy and being upset about
988
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:38.960
it still. And then I woke up the next morning
989
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:41.239
and that was completely gone for me, Like I all
990
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:42.840
of a sudden knew that it was you know, I
991
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:44.920
knew it was for the best already, but like I
992
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:46.920
really knew it was for the best, where like my
993
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:49.360
my sadness about it was gone, and like my gripping
994
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.480
was totally gone, and I just woke up in a
995
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.880
new timeline where I just had a different perspective on things.
996
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:56.519
Yeah it was.
997
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:01.519
Yeah, yeah, I love it and for happening, and I
998
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:02.000
love this shoe.
999
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.039
I love those little indicators, like when you ask for
1000
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:05.920
something like can you sell me a sign? And then
1001
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.719
it's like, you know, something shows up and you're like,
1002
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.760
I never expected that. Do you think that there are
1003
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.880
some timelines that are like close timelines that are easier
1004
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:18.920
to hop to, and then timeline is farther away there's
1005
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.519
like more things are different that would take more energy
1006
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:23.239
to leap to.
1007
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:24.800
Yeah.
1008
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.800
I mean I don't know obviously all the mechanics of
1009
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.840
the universe, but I would assume there's easier ones that
1010
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.599
are maybe like one step away because they're more resonating
1011
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.000
with us, and then the ones that are, you know,
1012
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.719
further away are ones that are just completely different than
1013
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:42.119
our current belief systems. But the secret is if we
1014
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:44.239
if you have like a huge day of healing, like
1015
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.920
if you really heal a huge belief, you can hop
1016
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:50.960
like twenty timelines away because it's not really it's about
1017
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.119
your beliefs and emotions. It's not about like how it's
1018
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:56.880
harder or the less hard. It's just yeah, if that
1019
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:57.480
makes sense.
1020
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:01.519
Yeah, yeah, I thought you might say something like that
1021
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:06.400
because I've had that experience for sure. Yeah, what are
1022
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:12.800
some of the foundational hmm, I was gonna say experiments,
1023
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:17.480
but as you were putting your book together, Like, what
1024
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.840
were some of the puzzle pieces that became foundational for
1025
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:24.000
you to work from as I.
1026
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.360
Put my book together, like to work from unique.
1027
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:33.480
Either foundational experiments that you came across or influencers on
1028
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:36.519
how you thought about things.
1029
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.199
It's funny because most of my book is like literally
1030
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:39.639
just like.
1031
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:43.519
Not planned. It just kind of came out of me.
1032
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.000
And then like I'd come across stuff, but I would
1033
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.119
say like influence, like well, this might not be what
1034
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:51.000
you're asking. But number one, like I knew that I
1035
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:54.559
wanted to structure it around like plasma consciousness and the
1036
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:56.760
new human potential like that was always kind of in
1037
00:51:56.840 --> 00:52:00.159
my head. But as far as like actual experience, and
1038
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:04.199
they're in chapter two, I would say the most about experiments,
1039
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:06.599
which is like the secret history of ether and how
1040
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.920
it relates to plasma. And there was an experiment called
1041
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:14.440
the Michelson Morley experiment where they experimented I'm proving the
1042
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:17.960
luminiferous ether, and they disproved it, and then we just
1043
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.840
stopped talking about an ether that you know, was in
1044
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.440
the universe, which basically would disprove like everything I've been
1045
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.639
saying this like finer plasma, and I actually, you know,
1046
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:31.920
discovered in my mind that the experiment was wrong and
1047
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.199
they were testing for a stationary ether. But this plasma,
1048
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.800
this ether is not stationary. It is living, it is moving,
1049
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:39.960
it is always in flux. So I think if they
1050
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.000
were to recreate the experiment, and usually you know, maybe
1051
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:47.199
use some like underwater technology, I don't know. I think
1052
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:49.320
there's a way to recreate it where we could eventually
1053
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.800
prove this field I'm speaking of. But there's just like
1054
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.840
interesting stuff about that experiment and like how it went wrong.
1055
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.000
There's also something called.
1056
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.960
There's there's this guy on William Nicholson who talked about
1057
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:06.599
things called proto elements, and they actually like completely like
1058
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:09.199
you know, went away from his work and then went
1059
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:10.239
into more.
1060
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:17.679
What was the other guy's name? They kind of like
1061
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.039
shoved his work aside and went.
1062
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.760
More into sorry, I'm just looking for the guy's name.
1063
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:25.639
La La.
1064
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:28.840
By the way, we should we should think about setting
1065
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:32.639
up and redoing the Michaelson Morley experiment. That would be amazing, Yeah,
1066
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:33.199
I know.
1067
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:36.159
And and there's also an experiment about like how life
1068
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.760
came onto this earth, and I think how life actually
1069
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:41.320
and I wrote about I forget the name of it,
1070
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:44.199
but it actually, I think is plasma is how life started,
1071
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:46.400
just kind of how like in War of the World
1072
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:49.559
the aliens came through the lightning, Like I just think
1073
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.440
we forget that plasma was probably involved in literally starting
1074
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:58.920
help helping with the chemicals and life on Earth and stuff. Okay,
1075
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:03.360
but basically Nicholson talked about these things called proto elements,
1076
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.039
and I think it would have went more into like a,
1077
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:09.079
you know, us studying plasma more in different metaphysical ways,
1078
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:17.119
but instead they went from his term into.
1079
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.480
Sorry, I'm justerence guy.
1080
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:27.039
Yeah, I literally can't remember what I wrote, which is hilarious,
1081
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.039
but I wrote literally seven hundred pages.
1082
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:33.960
So well, if people.
1083
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:35.639
Want to read it, it's on page fifty to like
1084
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:40.320
fifty five. I'm not But basically they went to like
1085
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:41.639
more quantum physics.
1086
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:48.880
You know, shit, I'm trying to find the I don't know.
1087
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.679
Basically he came up, yeah, like he came up.
1088
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:55.440
With all this stuff, and then they kind of went
1089
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:58.840
away for everything he was saying actually could check out mathematically,
1090
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.039
but they went with a more like simpler version of
1091
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:03.159
like the atom. Like he came up with like this
1092
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:05.440
whole new thing with the atom and the different elements,
1093
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:07.679
and they were like, no, he's actually wrong. But when
1094
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:09.599
you look back, he wasn't wrong. And if you read
1095
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:11.559
it in my book, it'll make total sense what I'm saying.
1096
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:14.119
But anyway, it was an interesting experiment. The guy's name
1097
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:19.119
is yeah, John Nick Polson, John William Nicholson.
1098
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:20.239
People should look at him.
1099
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:25.800
Another guy was Frank Washington. Very he basically called what
1100
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:29.119
I call plasma. He called it the aura. And he said,
1101
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:33.320
this aura is stronger than steel, but the strength results
1102
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:36.440
from an intimate connection with an infinite source of energy,
1103
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:40.719
which is spiritual. So does this invisible spirit control of
1104
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:45.440
the body. And even so public opinion, a seemingly tangible
1105
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.559
thing is stronger than the most powerful autocrat, and in
1106
00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:51.760
the end will prevail. And I believe he was calling
1107
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.920
like he called them ether particles and that there was
1108
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.440
an interstellar medium. And I know he was talking about plasma.
1109
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.280
And he worked a lot in you know, the aeros
1110
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:10.199
and airplanes and anyway, his work is incredibly prophetic and
1111
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:13.559
no one has really ever talked about him and I
1112
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:15.000
would yeah, hit and that's.
1113
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.519
Page like seventy eight to eighty on my book.
1114
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.639
But anyway, his stuff I came across, like really it
1115
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:22.639
made me you know, what I'm doing is real, Like
1116
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.679
I know it's real. But he was just one of
1117
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.199
the people when I was doing my researcher coming across
1118
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:31.400
people that I was like, this guy is talking about
1119
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:33.000
the same field I am, and this is like one
1120
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:35.280
hundred years ago and he's talking about it with like
1121
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:40.639
paranormal properties and spiritual and ether particles and you know, I.
1122
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:45.880
Don't know, Yeah, yeah, you're kind of reminding me of
1123
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:48.360
I don't know if you saw on Joe Rogan when
1124
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.039
Terrence Howard went on there and he was sort of
1125
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:57.840
bringing all these new wild ideas. Yeah, maybe should go
1126
00:56:57.840 --> 00:56:58.440
on Joe Rogan.
1127
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.000
I want to. So they denied me.
1128
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:02.559
They were like, hey, Dana, we don't think it's going
1129
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:04.440
to happen, but you know, a no is just a
1130
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:05.199
delayed yes.
1131
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:07.480
So it just wasn't the right timing.
1132
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:12.159
I think I think the strategy would be like enough
1133
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:16.079
people telling whichever hosts Joe Rogan or someone else like, hey, yeah,
1134
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:20.079
you should have data on you know, getting their peers
1135
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:22.039
to recommend kind of thing.
1136
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.599
I'm working on it behind the scenes.
1137
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:30.079
Nice. Nice, Yeah, And I did see that he is
1138
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:35.840
starting to get I think, like not dream time experiences,
1139
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:39.039
but like alternate reality, where like his star family will
1140
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.599
come and like bring him into a new reality and
1141
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.480
start showing him stuff because he's talking about these surreal
1142
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.360
these dreams that are more real than reality that he's having. Yeah.
1143
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:55.000
My theory is that different influencers will start start being
1144
00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:58.880
activated by their star families. Oh, I'm sure this year
1145
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:00.960
and well, like kind of like how you were, like
1146
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.320
how it just kind of I know all this stuff.
1147
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.519
Now what's happening already, Like Lucy Hale's talking a lot
1148
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:12.119
now on podcasts about spirituality and metaphysics and helping the
1149
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:14.320
world more and spreading her light. And you know, you
1150
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:15.960
no one would have known she would do that.
1151
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:16.639
Ten years ago.
1152
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:19.400
She's like in Pretty Little Liars and you know, just
1153
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:23.159
a famous person and now she's like has this greater calling.
1154
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:27.840
And yeah, there's people like yet Terrence Howard who just
1155
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.719
came out with all this stuff there's there's a lot
1156
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.119
of celebrities I'm noticing starting to do this, which is
1157
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:36.559
exciting because they have the platform, so of course they're
1158
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.239
going to be the ones contacted or awakened.
1159
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:44.840
Yeah, exciting times tonight as we're recording. So it's December seventeenth,
1160
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:48.199
as we're recording this. Yeah, there's a mystery the President's
1161
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:53.000
going to make like a mystery broadcast tonight.
1162
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:57.039
Oh he is, so wait, no way, I'll have to
1163
00:58:57.079 --> 00:58:57.719
look that up.
1164
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:00.920
Well, So it was really interesting. So I became aware
1165
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:04.400
of the betting markets. So you can bet on anything
1166
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:06.440
these days. I don't yeah, you know, like if is
1167
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:07.920
it going to be cloudy, you can place a bet
1168
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:11.480
on that, and if enough people are betting on something,
1169
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:14.199
it starts to be quite accurate.
1170
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:15.239
Okay.
1171
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.320
And the odds, it was like three days ago the
1172
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:22.039
odds that he was going to disclose et inteligence was
1173
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.719
like one hundred percent in the betting markets. And then
1174
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:26.480
he came out with this like, Hey, I'm going to
1175
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:28.800
make a broadcast from the Oval Office tonight, and I
1176
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:30.880
was like, oh, what's that going to be about? So
1177
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:34.480
I don't know, we'll find we'll find out later today.
1178
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:36.480
But that's kind of intruing.
1179
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:38.519
I hope it finally is, because I feel like we've
1180
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:41.280
been jerked around for frickin' ever. So I'm looking it
1181
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:43.840
up right now. I mean that would be, you know,
1182
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:45.159
so exciting, so.
1183
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:49.280
Or who knows, right, you know, I don't want to
1184
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:50.079
get what helps up.
1185
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:53.280
But yeah, no, I mean hopefully that'll be really cool
1186
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:56.239
and that is what happens, so we'll see. I know
1187
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:59.360
that Steve miss Spielberg's movie about disclosure just premiered. The
1188
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:03.480
trailer just mirrored, so okay, nice, Yeah you should look.
1189
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:05.960
Yeah, I thought there was like a billboard teasing it,
1190
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:07.480
but I haven't seen the trailer yet.
1191
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:09.400
Yeah, it looks interesting.
1192
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:11.079
I mean, I will say, like, the only thing I
1193
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:13.840
really want to get across in the world in this
1194
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:17.719
interview too, is like with disclosure, with these beings is
1195
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.719
that we have total control and our energy and who
1196
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.760
we resonate with. And you know, there are these other
1197
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:27.000
beings of consciousness. They do exist. There are also beings
1198
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.039
of information that are not conscious. They're simply helping us
1199
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:34.840
evolve by bringing our own like memories to us. But
1200
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.920
we think that they're like demons and witches and cryptids.
1201
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:39.760
And they're gonna like kill us or hurt us. Like
1202
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:42.639
I want people to feel really at peace, like to
1203
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.199
do not have any fear like the fears, what will
1204
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:48.559
bring those experiences in your life? You can co create
1205
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:53.119
amazing experiences with these beings that are being disclosed, and
1206
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.480
they are not evil, they are neutral. They are reflecting
1207
01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:58.360
our consciousness. And the more you realize like the powers
1208
01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:01.400
within you, the more empowered you feel, you'll, you know,
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across this new landscape because with this it's going to
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come a lot more fear mongering and thinking the powers
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outside of you and you need the government's help or
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other people's help. You don't need anyone's help. You can,
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you know, heal yourself and learn how to feel your
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feelings and have beautiful experiences with these beings. It doesn't
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need to be a tragedy story or a haunting story.
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So I'm very passionate about that.
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Yeah, thank you, Yep, that's I mean, or for the course, right,
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people are going to try to take new information and
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bend it to their own purposes. But yeah, that's a
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really good reminder.
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It's happening already, and like it's directly influenced by our
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psychology and our belief system and our consciousness. These are
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experiences we are having with them with our consciousness and
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we have the power in that and the sovereignity and
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that or whatever that damn ord is. And yeah, we
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are not victims. We are not victims to this. We
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need to wake up.
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Good. That's a that's a good good spot to uh
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kind of lead link. Yeah, you do you want to
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highlight I mean we've talked about your book. You want
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to hold it up again and then direct through wherever
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they can find it.
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Yes, and my magic class.
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So my book you can get on my Instagram or
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TikTok and the link is in my stand store sta
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n store. It's a link in my bio. Also, I
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sell signed books at Dana Kipple dot com. I'm doing
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really cool magic classes, so that's also at the stand
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store link. And my Instagram and YouTube and my instagram's
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Dayna dot the Alien.
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My TikTok is at Dana Kipple.
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But yeah, I have a really fun magic class in
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January twenty first coming up with a live Q and
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a on connecting with our higher self through this bridge
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of four dimensional plasma. And you know how to connect
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with our higher selves in a more coherent way. And
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then one more thing, I'll say, it is just with
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this whole and the powers in the side of you.
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Thing.
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When it's like a snake charmer, when they approach a
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snake with fear, a snake will bite them. When you
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approach a snake with love and neutrality, it will let it.
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You'll charm it.
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And it's the same with these beings, these other beings
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that we're going to be interfacing with more and more.
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You know, once again, they're reflecting our state of consciousness,
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just like animals can. And it also is the same
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as me and you. If I am coming to you
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in the more neutral perspective of being open to who
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you are as a person, rather than coming you out
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of fear or anger, you're not going to probably reflect
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that back to me, you know. I mean, yes, there's
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people in psychosis is that we see on the streets
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obviously who are also in a lot of fear. But
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you'll notice if you're more fearful of them, they'll approach
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you more. But if you're more neutral to them, you know,
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if theyll acts like you're not there. So anyway, that's
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kind of how I would act about these beings and
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once again, these are not evil beings. They're just beans
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of all types, and we can you know, interact with
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them how we choose and have boundaries.
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Yeah. Yeah, I had that same experience actually when my
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when my wife was pregnant with our first child. I
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was out in the wilderness running like a long trail run,
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and I came across a mountain lion and it was
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like face to face with a mountain lion, but because
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I had been running in nature for hours, it was
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a totally neutral experience, like we were beat away from
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each other. Yeah, And it was like as soon as
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I as soon as I, like I walked away backwards
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and rounded the bend, then I got super scared. But
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like while I was face to face, it was neutral
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and it was just like, yeah, you know, two ships passing.
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Yeah, that's how it could be.
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It could be like that when you if it's a
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bean that you're not you know, feeling good vibes from.
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And it can also be something where you're like you
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laugh at it, or you can say like, oh, like
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I wonder what intelligence is inside this, Like let me
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try to see beyond what my reflection is and actually
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open to new information, so you know, and you might
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have a really beautiful experience where you've seen an angel
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or a holographic mist.
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I've seen all of this stuff and it's directly directly
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impacted by your beliefs and your psychology, your cultural upbringing, directly,
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directly directly.
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So yeah, beautiful. Yeah, Well, thanks so much Dana for
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coming on today. And yes, it's great having you.
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Yes, thank you so much, thank you.
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Thanks, all right, we'll talk soin.
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Yes, are you getting up?
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I'm just gonna you're stopping recording, yeap, which is I
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just wanted to thank
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You before I get off.