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Speaker 1: We're not predicting a war. We're at war. We're not, you know, raising the red flag because the red flag is already up. And we're not just in one war. We're in three wars. A hot war, kinetic war with Iran. We're in a proxy war that has the potential of breaking out into a kinetic regional war with NATO and Ukraine-Russia. We've got an economic war that's taking place here at home. Why we go to war? Why does it happen? how do we get caught up in it? I've essentially learned how to read the signs. So the seven signs, sign number one, this was fascinating. In November of 1916, Woodrow Wilson ran on the promise that American boys would not be going overseas to participate in World War I. Five months later, we were in World War I. In 1940, Franklin Delano Roosevelt promised American sons that we would not get involved in that engagement. And he would not send anybody to a foreign war that wasn't for us. Pearl Harbor happened 13 months later. LBJ Lyndon Baines Johnson ran on the promise in 1964 as a peace candidate. LBJ the peace candidate against Barry Goldwater. Well, guess what? Rolling Thunder started 41 days after his inauguration. Every single one of these presidents in the moment as they were campaigning probably meant it in some way, shape or form or wanted to believe they meant it. But if you simply look back throughout human history, in particular, our human history as Americans, From 75 to 1812 to 1861, 1898, 1917, 1941, 1950, 1965, 1990, and 2001, we have gotten into it and gone to war. And not just in a little way, in a big way. And as a person who spent the greater portion of my adult life involved in this type of thing, whether it's the SEAL teams or Blackwater or the agency, I've had a lot of time to reflect on why we go to war. Why does it happen? How do we get caught up in it? And it was kind of interesting. I've essentially learned how to read the signs. Now, why am I doing this show today? Well, because... I was scrolling on X as I typically do to try and find out what topic I'm going to do or who I'm going to interview. And by the way, if you want to follow us, you can follow the show at DRutherfordShow on X or me. You can follow me at TeamFrogLogic and you can follow me on Instagram at the same or you can follow the show at DavidRutherfordShow on all the other platforms. So as I was scrolling through the other day, I came across this great video this young guy did about this fantastic book and I, and you probably heard of it, but, um, it's called the fourth turning. And, and I had, I had heard about it here and there. People, a lot of podcasters have done shows about this theory, uh, from these two guys, William Strauss and Neil Howe. And this book was published in 1997. And, um, you know, there's a, how, how did a followup book called, uh, the fourth turning and it's the fourth turning is here. and published that in 23. And so that's one making the rounds as well again, too. But essentially what these guys break down is that in American history, we live in these cycles, 80 to 100 year cycles. And it's roughly one human generation, right? I guess that's the way it breaks down. And he breaks out each cycle of these 80 to 100 years as these Four turnings, ending quotations, right? About 20 years per each segment. And so here, the four turnings are the high, the awakening, the unraveling, and the crisis, and the fourth turning. All right. So obviously, the high happens right after a particular crisis. With strong institutions, great conformity, and a great rebuilding. Think about post-World War II times. And, you know, the white picket fences in the suburbs and Shangri-La fucking Elvis and, you know, and, you know, muscle cars and, you know, this great time of the, the 1950s. Right. Then the next, there's this place called the awakening and that's where people begin to rebel against the particular institutions that essentially are governing them. Right. And there's typically a, a bit of cultural or spiritual upheaval, right? Think about 64 to 84, right? And in that time, you had the civil rights, the anti-war movement, the counter-cultural revolution. You had, you know, the breakup of the Soviet Union. You had the oil embargoes, terrorism emerged, like a big change, right? And then the third is the unraveling. And this is where the institutions really become more weak, weakened, and individualization rises. Specific groups begin to pit themselves against one another, right? And the biggest thing of this is that societal trust begins to implode, right? That's 84 to the mid-2000s and what we've seen through that time, right? The rise of political correctness, the rise of America becoming the singular empire of the world, right? The middle class are government debt skyrocketing to $ 40 trillion, right? And then the last is the crisis, obviously. And that's where the old order breaks down, right? And then a crisis happens and then the country has to rebuild it through an existential emergency and very often a war. Now, you know, you've, we have all these examples throughout history and that they bring it, uh, they bring it into line and I recommend go picking up the book. Uh, I just started reading it last week and that's really what was provoking, uh, this idea in me. Um, and so what I, Jordi and I were, we're doing a show and we started thinking about, man, I wonder if there's a, a way to drill down even more, right. To say, to look at the five to 10 years prior to a war taking place. And if there were any patterns and what it kicked out were these really interesting breakdown that it call, you know, we, we kind of distilled down into the seven signs. Right. And so we're going to go through this and, you know, our job is not to, um, convince you that this is a definitive way to evaluate history and to predict what's coming in the future. Uh, where our intention is not to sway you away from what your preconceived notions, how this thing, maybe you've read the four turning, that's your deal. Or maybe you've read some other great book. All I'm trying to do with all of you is as, as I always try and do is to provide some greater context to your critical thinking. To provoke you to say, man, that's an interesting way to think about it. All right. So the seven signs, sign number one. This was fascinating. The enemy tells us what they intend to do, right? And then what do we do? We file it away and we're like, check, Roger, good to go. So let's just start at World War I. Now, we entered the war in basically 1917. It had already been gone on. Absolutely devastating war in Europe. Now, many people believe that some anarchist shot some duke or some guy over in some bizarre place we can't even name, and that's how all of a sudden then everybody, you know, 24 million people just decided to annihilate each other on the Eastern and Western fronts. It's not what went down, right? What, what ended up happening was, you know, people and people want to drill it into this one concept called the Zimmerman telegram. Um, and this was a secret coded message sent on 16, January, 1917 by German foreman, German form, uh, foreign secretary, um, Arthur Zimmerman to German minister in Mexico, Henrik Weineckert. And basically was like, Hey, let's try and get Mexico in this thing before the United States comes in and starts helping Germany or England and France. And which by the way, we're the French were have, we're seated with tons of uprisings and people were mass mutinies. And you, Even England was suffering from this. Russia was going through the Russian Bolshevik Revolution, so they were pulling out of– they were killing the czars and pulling out of there. You had a communism that was ripping through the back end of Germany. Germans were starving. The war had been going on since 14, and people were tired of it for sure. But this thing was kind of like the predecessor to go, hey, we got wind of this. It's like, hey, man, they're talking about bringing Mexico and hitting us here to prevent us from going over there. We ought to do that. But this was a bigger arms race that really kicked this thing off. And the main focus was between England and Germany, right? When Germany, the post-industrial revolution took place, they started manufacturing like the Germans could do. And they started just mass producing ships up to the point where they're about 60% bigger than at the time, uh, the British Navy, which the sun never set on the British empire. That's from those days with colonial right there, colonial imperialism. Um, you know, so what is England doing? Well, Germany's gonna, you know, affect our, uh, our control of international shipping and trade, which was the most profitable thing in the world at the time, right? That's how, uh, international commerce took place and still takes place by the way, wink, wink, nod, nod today. Think of the Gulf of Hormuz, right? Uh, also think of the Mediterranean too. That's relevant as well as what we got going on too. So, you know, you had this thing come out and that was, so there was signs like that. The enemy was kind of telling us what was going to take place. You know, you go into world war one. Um, obviously we now know that the British, uh, and deciphered some code and they knew that Japan was interested in bombing us on December 7th. And this year is the 85th anniversary. I'll be going out there with Black Rifle Coffee to celebrate. It's going to be a great event. Stay tuned to that. We're going to have some good footage for you from that. But again, you know, and also Japan had ceased diplomatic relations because what did we do? We ended up basically turning off the spigot for them because they had been at war with the Chinese for a while, you know, and they roughly killed about 30 million Chinese. The Chinese were kind of sympathetic to the Russians. Um, you know, a lot of crazy stuff was going on. And so, you know, that was it. And, um, you know, I think there was also other aspects of, of World War II. There was a preliminary thing that Germany was essentially trying to tell everybody, Hey, this is what I'm going to do. There was even a pack signed with the Russians about Poland because Russia wanted some of Poland and Germany wanted their, uh, ancestral German lands back that had happened after Versailles. And so all this was taking place. Like it just didn't happen. It wasn't just like, Oh, December 7th, let's go to fucking war. You know, that's not the way this stuff works. There's, you know, we, we, we, We always like we, whoever writes those damn history books that we force our children to digest ought to be, I was going to say something nasty ought to be taken out back and slapped. All right. Uh, because we're doing our children a disservice. We're not teaching them real history. Um, let's talk about nine 11, right? You can go back and basically look at what was transpiring with the Mujahideen once we pulled out of once Russia left and the Russian war. And basically, you know, you can laugh because we had the towers bombing in 93. We had the bin Laden actually posted and you can find this online. posted a declaration of war against the United States and Israel and gave a whole list of what why he was pissed and what it was. He didn't want military bases in the Middle East, especially in Saudi Arabia. He wanted Israel kicked out and our support of Israel. He didn't like that. So there was all these things. And the embassy bombings in 98, the coal bombing in 2000, There was the Phoenix memo that came out, uh, FBI and the agency, August 6th, 2001. And that was in the president's daily brief that said, uh, bin Laden is determined to strike the U S in quotes. And that was in the president's daily brief. You know, now we know if, if you've walked any of the recent documentaries at pre nine 11, right? The Saudi, there was a Saudi intelligence officer that was actually assisting two of the hijackers in San Diego, uh, We had the FBI that was aware that these guys were at shitty flight schools down in whatever. So the enemy was essentially telling us, hey, this is coming. But we didn't do it. We just filed it away. And now let's just go to the check of what we're in right now. And by the way, just to let you know, we're not predicting a war. We're at war. Let me just repeat that again to you. I am not predicting. Nobody else is predicting. We're not, you know, raising the red flag because the red flag is already up. Red flag is already up. We are at war. Now, maybe because my generation and the GWAT has numbed your senses and Because of 22 years of sustained war over in the Middle East. And by the way, we weren't in just one war. We were in two wars for 20 years. And because the body count didn't affect your hometown, other than the occasional guy dying here and that, you had a plaque down by the police station or in the memorial gardens or memorial funeral place. unlike World War II, where there were giant monuments erected in the city center with hundreds and hundreds of names of local boys that died downrange. Because we didn't have that, you got anesthetized to it. You got numb to warfare. And because of the way we operate now with these special missions or these activities, like special things like taking out Maduro or assassinating the Atayatullah Khomeini or that you're okay with this because guess what? It's still drone strikes and anything. Well, I guess what? We just lost a 37 year old woman overseas. She died, not from combat related that we know of, but she died overseas as the 19th service member we've lost in this war, this war we're in with Iran that has 110, 20 million people or 97 million or however many millions of Persians were in a war with them. That's the reality. Us and Israel are in a war with nobody else against Iran. And our member states, our Gulf states, they're in a war. They're getting the bitter end of that war and their infrastructure being destroyed. Pipelines being destroyed, refineries being destroyed. And now the regional war, the Houthis are going in Yemen and now they're with the Saudis and all that. And then there's this other thing you got going on in Russia and Ukraine. That's a war. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. And by the way, just to let you know, just to let you know, in case you're not aware of this or you don't want to admit it, We are funding that war. So we are utilizing the Ukrainian military and people as a proxy to fight Russia. And if you pay attention, you go back a couple shows. I did the whole history of NATO's involvement with Russia and how we got into the Ukrainian war, how it started. It wasn't just Putin just woke up one day and said, oh, shit. Let's just invade Ukraine. That's not the way it worked. This was a 20-year provocation back and forth with us sponsoring majority of this provocation with our European partners and NATO inching closer to Russia. So we are in a war with Iran, with Israel, and we are fully supporting a war that Ukraine– is in a war with Russia, right? Who has the largest nuclear stockpiles in the world. So that's the fact. So we're already in this, but you could go back to the last five years and certainly look at the rhetoric, look at what's been taking place, look at what's happening. And just to go back and let you know and remind you, To frame this out for you like I did with Woodrow Wilson and FDR and LBJ, if you don't remember, I'll refresh your mind. I don't know how many times I saw it and I voted for Trump on the campaign, No New Wars. And that and immigration were the primary reasons why I supported President Trump. That and the fact that Kamala Harris was fucking nuts and was a complete plant. We were going to go into absolute socialist nightmare if she won. Potentially. We don't know. It didn't happen. But it certainly felt like we were going that way. But Donald Trump looked at all of our faces over and over and over again and said, I will never go to war in the Middle East, ever. And what happens? Not even a year plus into it, we bomb the hell out of them. Six months later, we're in war. We've been in war for 200 and some odd days, 210 days or something. That's the reality. That's where we're at. So there are always signs of the buildup, right? Of what's happening. The enemy's going to tell you why they're pissed and we're going to like, oh yeah, okay, we got it. Just put it over here and not do anything about it. Okay. So the other aspect, this I found interesting as well too, is that our adversaries will begin to link up prior to as well too. They'll start developing these packs, these, these relationships, right? And when you had the Anglo-German arms race that led up into World War I, you had these alliance blocks that started to take place. There was this alliance between Germans and the Prussians and the alliance between the French and the English. And Germany tested France on multiple occasions. Um, you know, and, and there's some really interesting ones that came out. Um, there was a, some Balkan conflicts that took place in 1912, right? There was the 1930s army bill that Germany passed, uh, the largest peacetime army increase. So they started building and then they started helping kind of regional partners build as well and selling armaments to them. And also, by the way, a lot of these technologies of plants and all this stuff, they were interrelated, right? And if you want to really blow your mind, go back and see how Henry Ford was involved in Germany during the 1930s, as well as involved with the Russians in the 1930s as well, too. War makes money, baby. So 19, World War II. Then you had the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, right? Which was a pact between the Nazis and the Soviets, right? And it was a non-aggression deal with secret protocol that would carve up Eastern Europe, right? Which was Poland, the Baltics, Finland, and Bessarabia. And it basically gave the green light for Hitler to invade Poland on 1st September 1939 and let Stalin grab his share two weeks later, right? So... Think about that, which is fascinating to me because then somehow we partnered with Russia and then post-World War II, we gave Russia Eastern Europe anyways, which ended up being a pretty catastrophic thing for Eastern Europeans. Just go look at the history of what communism did in there. And by the way, you always have to go back and I'm listening. There's this great World War II podcast that I highly recommend regardless of what you've heard. the history and it is phenomenal. It's called the martyr maid show. Uh, he's doing a 10, potentially 10 to 12 part series. And each one of these like four or five hours long. And his current one is about world war two. Uh, and it's called the Germans war. And it's told from the eyes of the German people. And currently the, the episode three that I'm in right now is post world war one. What happens in the communist spread of, after the Bolshevik, right? The Red Terror and the move into Hungary, the move into Germany. And if you don't know, Germany almost clapped on multiple occasions. Berlin was almost taken down. Munich was converted into a Soviet Republic. Like this was all over the place. Finland had to fight back. Lithuanians almost fell to communism as well too. So this scourge was all over the place. So, you know, people were trying to figure out Who to partner with and why to protect themselves from this impending catastrophic ism of communism, right? Which ultimately led to the deaths of about 65 million people through Stalin and the Bolsheviks in Russia alone. Another 40 to 60 million in China and Mao Zedong. And then also they contributed massively to a large-scale death count in World War II and post-World War II. Um, you can even go up and, and, you know, talk about, you can look at what's taking place in the middle East and you can look at the eighties, you know, and the fact that, you know, it's kind of ironic that we actually supplied Saddam Hussein with weapons and the Iranian Iraq war kind of supplied Iran with some stuff as well too, through the Israelis. So both sides are funding, right. We, we support, we fought. We supplied the Muhajideen, which essentially was a bunch of Saudis. It was bin Laden in Afghanistan. We've seen recently, we found out that the Israelis were funding Hamas through to the tune of like, I don't even know how many millions every month or something. And Netanyahu said, oh, I can control the fire type thing. So there's a lot of underlying things that are taking place where People are packing up. Like you look at like Russia and Ukraine and you look at BRICS and you also look at what's happened as a result of the Ukraine, Russia and the European Union, NATO and us supplying Ukraine with weapons systems and intelligence and all this stuff. What happened to Russia? Well, they went and they partnered up with Taiwan, who, by the way, have already told us in the last administration, Biden's administration, you had multiple people, very senior members of his cabinet basically said, our new policy is, uh, we are not going to defend Taiwan. That's a, that's a regional problem. That's it. And you've had Xi repeatedly said, we will unify. This is our land. And now Russia, India, and, um, and China are in bricks, right? You can put South Africa in there, but, but, you know, they have a lot of Resources, but they don't have much fighting force for sure. But there are other people that are part of BRICS now, dozens of other countries. So they're partnering up. So what happens if this thing scales and breaks out? Do the three most significant populations with the most significant resources in the world, they partner up in a world war against the European Union and us? What happens? Is that a possibility? Probably something to think about. I just want to really talk about my incredible partnership with one of my best friends, and that's Evan Hafer and the boys over at Black Rifle Coffee. I'm so honored to be a part of their organization. And just really can't thank them enough for allowing me to participate. What I want you to do is go to BlackRifleCoffee.com, and I want to check out their new energy drinks. They have these incredible energy drinks that you can buy at all different kinds of stores, Wal-Mart. Bass Sports and others. Or you can go online and order. And if you want to put in your little promo code, FrogLogic20, there you get a little discount on stuff there. I highly recommend that. For me, it's my morning coffee. 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The revisionist powers test, test the red lines and found nothing behind them, right? Right. All these European countries had said, you know, if you, if you do this, we're not going to do anything. Or if you do this, we're going to come and we're going to fight back. Well, guess what? Jeremy's like, okay, here's the line. Here's the line. Here's the line. And nothing happens. Right. Right. So you can look at that red line as kind of a parody of sorts, if you will, right? In the Korean War, right, we had this massive demobilization of Europe post-World War II. Remember, all of Europe was utterly destroyed, destroyed. And so as we were trying to help facilitate some form of governance emerging, and then, by the way, as we're doing this and all this destruction taking place, like entire massive cities that had lasted for a thousand years were wiped off the map, completely wiped off the map. So we were focused on that. Well, guess what? As soon as World War II and we, you know, they chop up the world and what happens? The communists go on a terror, man. And they start a communist revolution all over and they start uh, uh, seeking out resources and spreading communism all over. Well, what happens? The massive rise in China, China has its eyes on Southeast Asia and Asia. And what we've taken our eye off the ball. And we're like, wait, what, what are you serious? gave this speech and basically talked about the U.S. 's influence of security. And basically, Korea was outside of that because I really don't think they thought China was going to be a force whatsoever in any way, shape, or form. They didn't play a major role in World War I or World War II or anything. And I think probably the British said, oh, we got China. Don't worry. That's not a threat. We're good. Well, guess what? Yeah. the full invasion took place in June 1950. And this speech he'd given had happened in January 1950. So basically saying, oh, no, we're not worried about Korea. And then June, China invades Korea. Now, again, people are like, well, what does that have to do with us? Well, think about international shipping, international trade, the movement of different goods or services or resources all over the world. So China's gaining its foothold now as a communist country. So now here we are again, 2026. We're at war with Iran. We're at war through a proxy with Russia. The regional other groups are basically seeing us talk about or Trump saying, I'll end this war my first day of office. Zilch, nothing's taking place. I'm going to come in and I'm going to bomb Iran into Timbuktu. I'm going to destroy the civilization. That hasn't happened yet either. So all these commentaries and nothing's taking place, that takes the weight out of kind of the threat, doesn't it? Like any schoolyard bully, what do we always teach our kids? Somebody's talking a lot of smack to you, walk up, drill them straight in the face and see what happens, right? Most of the time, bullies are all bark and no bite. I think people around the world are starting to figure out. One, our munitions production is not up to scale. Two, we can't really have a profound impact to wipe out Russia or to wipe out whatever. And most likely, we're not trying to do that. We're trying to erode them down to a point where for the long term, they don't have the capacity. The people in power know if you can beat somebody or not. And, and how, tell me this, how are you going to beat a nuclear country? You're not. And that plays a major role in the MA in the last 80 years, for sure. You know, um, and so now you even got Trump who's saying, uh, it's the straight of America and I control it and all this, but on the backside, he's asking, basically saying, Hey, NATO and China, can you help us put pressure on Iran, hoping to straight? You know, the other day it was funny. Zelensky is bombing refineries in Russia. Trump comes out and says, you know, on camera says, Zelensky, you need to stop buying in the refineries because you're the diesel price is going through the roof and basically stop doing that. You know, thinking like, oh, I'm in control. And, you know, what's Zelensky do? Week later starts bombing more refineries in Russia. Right. Driving the price up even more. And. That's maybe a show we'll do. I've got this idea that to take the most strategic oil producers and following a barrel of oil all the way through its shipping lanes, where it goes, where it is refined, and then where it's distributed around the world. I think that'd be a cool one to do too, Jordy. All right. Our adversaries are very technically aware of the gaps in our abilities. It's just the way it is. Just like back in the day, You think, you know, you know, how did Japan have any idea what we could or could not do? And, you know, it's like there's intelligence collection has been around since there were two tribes fighting for the same spot. Right. What do you do? You're like, hey, dipshit, pretend you hate our tribe. Go over, live with that tribe and learn and get cozy up to the head dude and then report back where their vulnerabilities are so we can take their shit later. Right. That's as old as time itself. It's called espionage. And as a person that comes from that world, I can tell you it's beyond anything you can imagine right now. And I'm sure all you've seen it. I mean, you see all the flock stuff because it's coming to your backyard right now. You know what the NSA can do through Snowden. right? You know what the agency can do? Well, so can the Russians and so can the Chinese. How many components in your electronic devices that are power in your house have Chinese parts in them, right? Even not Chinese parts, parts that were made in Korea. Is your television listening to you? Is your Nest listening to you, right? Is your iPhone listening to you constantly? How do all those ads pop up on your Insta feed selling you, uh, when you just were talking about buying your new, uh, you know, uh, dry wick boxer briefs, and then you see 15 ads for them pop up. Explain that to me. So, you know, the reality is, is there's all kinds of gaps that are, are, or adversaries see in our ability to actually, whether we'll be effective. Can we, uh, and can we ensure that that our strategic position and our initiatives can be fulfilled. And what you're seeing is you're seeing a massive pushback on that, I believe. And when that becomes apparent, people freak out, right? And they do dramatic things because the oldest thing in the proverbial book, tactically, punch first and punch hard, right? Put your enemy on their heels and then hope you got enough resources in place and you can gain the tactical advantage before your enemy gets their feet underneath and starts punching back. All right? Sign number four. Economic warfare always comes before the shooting. And we can go all the way back. Let's try the revolution in this context, right? What happened? We had basically... The Brits realize there's a bunch of scallywags down there, a bunch of revolutionaries. So what are we going to do? We're going to tax them even higher. And we're going to wage war on them. We're going to shut down imports, control import exports, taxations higher. We're going to load them with an economic burden that demoralizes them so that takes the fight out of them, right? But here's the problem with that type of thing, right? What happens when you impose these types of economic sanctions on people or you impose these economic punishments on people, what happens? It radicalizes the people most effective, which are middle and lower class people. Because if you're only making $ 55, 000 a year, And you're driving a truck to make that money in your organization. You're an independent contractor and your company doesn't pay for your diesel. And now you're paying seven 50 or six 50 or seven bucks, whatever it is for diesel. And that eats into about 35% of your margin or maybe less. Cause a lot of times margins for those people are so de minimis. It's, it's tough to eke out a living as is. Do you think that's going to radicalize people? Do you think if you make your energy costs shoot through the roof and you can't heat your family, do you think that's going to radicalize people? Do you think if you excessively tax people, you tax everything on them, you think that's going to radicalize people right think about the war of 1812 right jefferson had the embargo act of 1807 which wrecked our own economy by the way and so british orders in the council uh choke trade uh self-inflicted economic pain uh came before the war which it meant to prevent You can go into World War II. There was the lend-lease in March of 1941, the US oil embargo of July 1941. Four months later, Japan bombs us. There's all these typical financial abnormalities or panics or whatever you want to call them that typically lead up to these ideas because people start seeing the– you know, the, the sandbox, the tactical space change, and where's the easiest way to, if you have any, um, participation in the global economy, you start turning off a valve here or making this valve rust out here, actually blowing that oil well up here, that oil thing over here. And what happens? It put, yeah, it certainly puts stress on your adversaries and radicalizes them even more, but it also puts stress on your own economy. Like we're seeing now. And so you get people coming out and saying, well, isn't it better to pay $ 6. 50 for gas instead of Iran having a nuclear weapon? We have definitely increased. We've got a naval blockade going in Iran. We've got the Lindsey Graham Act that extends energy and weapons sanctions all over the place. We've got new treasury sanctions on Iranian aviation and logistics. As a result, we've got oil shock, global food prices. There's pressure on that. There's the cause of upcoming famines because fertilizer isn't accessible. I want to talk about impact. Look at all the African nations here in the next year or two. We are in this tariff thing with our allies to the point now where Canada is bringing over Chinese delegates. They're working with the European Union and NATO basically. We just did this show where we had Mark Root coming out and he talked about the new NATO Alliance 3.0, which is non-transatlantic except Canada. Imagine if all of a sudden China... russia and india partner up right to gain some world hegemony and start making some moves and incursions or whatever and then we want to push back and then we say all right canada european union australia let's go and they look at us and they say right here big boy right here and if you are listening it's i just gave two middle fingers to the camera this is a reality of how it happens now to a caveat to continue going on this. And you look at sign five, right? Where you really start to see things because nothing happens in this. It's not like, because we have AI in the, in the interwebs that like the world doesn't run on shipping. Like if, if you want to understand who controls the world and who dominates the world, who owns the shipping companies? Who are the major holders? How much merchandise are moved in these shipping? How much oil? How many natural resources? How much of the dumb shit that you consume every day is in a shipping container at length? What companies insure the shipping containers, right? And if you're not familiar, you go all the way back to the Venetians. Let's talk about the East India Trading Company. Let's talk about modern shipping today. You want to get into who controls the world. It's them, and then it's the big finance companies, the Black Rocks, the State Streets, and the Vanguards, right? That's a lane, obviously. We keep threatening to go down that, but, man, I don't want to poke that bear, dude. We won't last 30 seconds after that show, Jordy. All right, so what? Go back to the Barbary Wars. What happened? We were paying tribute. to the Barbary pirates of the Mediterranean until finally they captured our sailors and we had to go in there with our Marines in the first Northern African invasion and kick some ass, right? The War of 1812, you had the Chesapeake Leopard in 1807. The Royal Navy fired on the U.S. warship and impresses the sailors, orders the council choke trade, a foreign power controlling the sea lanes American commerce depends on. On the oldest American Cassius belly, right? So like, this is not new world war one, uh, the Lusitania incident, right? Understricted submarine warfare by the Germans. The Germans are like, fuck you, uh, Brits. We got these things called you boats. We're in control. Now you want to talk about control that led all the way up into world war two, right? I mean, that was a massive problem for us and for Britain getting support from us through our merchant Marine ships. Cause you boats were blowing them out of water. So England started suffering pretty substantially. And that's why they needed us to get in the war as badly as they did as, as they needed. And again, where are we at right now, man, the Straits of Hormuz shipping, right? Then you've got the Straits over in, uh, the Gulf of Arabia, right? Over on the other side where the Yemen, the Houthis and the Yemenis and the Saudis and that all going, you've got the Caspian Sea, you've got the Mediterranean, you've got the Malaccan Straits with Chinese in quotation fishing vessels, right? You've, I mean, global shipping is a primary source of of indicators that something is brewing. And it ultimately leads to backing us into a corner, if you will. That's the way it is. All right. Sign number six, political violence at home and unrest. Now, we've seen this extensively. Got 1776, the Boston Revolution, the Civil War. We had bleeding Kansas, 1856. Senator Sumner was caned on the Senate floor in 1856. The Dred Scott case, court loses half the country in the battle in 1857. The panic of 1857, right? John Brown's raid in 1859. A four-way election, right? The loser's side refuses the result to acknowledge the result in 1860, thereby... creating the, uh, the opportunity for what a, a, uh, uh, an attack on Fort Sumner, the Spanish American war, 1898, right? You had the Hertz Pulitzer circulation, uh, uh, war manufacturers outrage, right? That this thing, the ship got blown up in the, in the Harbor in Cuba, uh, and what we ended up learning. Well, we're not sure, right? Some people say the Spanish fired first, um, Whatever one you want to believe happened, what does that do? That thrust us into a war, right? Violence. In the modern era, in the last year and a half, what have we had? What do we got here at home? We've got two assassination attempts on our president. that we still don't understand why or what happened. No information. Although then it's cut and dry case. We had an assassination on the most substantial, most substantially influential nationalistic Christian person in modern history in terms of Charlie Kirk gets assassinated by what? Some lone gunman furry. Are you kidding me? I don't buy it. And you've got this, you know, domestic, stressors going on. Look at what was going on in Minnesota with ice agents. You've got active protests, no Kings protests. You've got, uh, there's been a one or two people, you know, driving into people or stabbings or, you know, shooting people, shooting Jewish people on the streets. You've got an assassination of a CEO, right? This, this is a rising tide of violence that's built upon this division that seems to be, uh, infecting, uh, The American consciousness, this is a reality. You could look at that before Vietnam exploded and the civil rights movement and where that came from, the counterculture revolution, the anti-war movement, right? All that. There was a big anti-war movement before World War II that most people don't know about. There was a big anti-movement against World War I that took place, right? These are consistent signs that take place. All right. All right. Sign seven, a regional war is already burning and we're in the middle of it. So again, I go back to this concept. We're already here. We're already at war. And we're not just in one war. We're in three wars, I believe. A hot war, a kinetic war with Iran. We're in a proxy war that has the potential of breaking out into a kinetic regional war with NATO and Ukraine-Russia. We've got an economic war that's taking place here at home. Like everybody's saying, no, the economy is the best it's ever been. I just saw a new home loan interest rate, 7.5. For a pound of beef, I go to Trader Joe's and I get a little teeny filet mignon for 22.85, under eight ounces. And you're telling me we're in, I got my gas is over five bucks. I got diesel at 6.50. Fuck, man. Look at what college institutions are charging people. $ 100, 000 to go to some university that you're going to get a degree in that's going to be obsolete in three years. And no correction is taking place. Right? And then you look at the most obvious place that seems to be emerging is the conscientious or the subconscious war between between the generations right you've got the boomers who are spending their you know their millions of dollars of retirement money and 401ks and the house they bought for 65 000 is now worth 1.2 million and they've got a second home up in on a lake somewhere in the midwest and They're driving four cars and they can't get their kids out of their house because they're living in their basement. Man, they're going down to Cancun and Tulum and they're going to Europe twice a year. But guess what? Their kid who graduated in the top 10% of his class at Clemson University can't get a fucking job, can't find a house, and can't find a mate because guess what? All these women are pissed off at the universe. For some reason, because of feminism or something, or I don't know, they're just angry about maybe the opportunities or what they've been fed. They don't even know what they're angry about to the point where you've got a ton of them supporting some woman who murdered her three kids. Are you kidding me? So there's a subconscious war taking place for our brains going on too in these damn algorithms. And if you think that ain't the truth, think again. So those are the seven signs. And these patterns aren't exact in every single one, but it was pretty fundamentally clear that these things add up. And those seven signs, just to recap them, are the enemy tells us what he intends to do. The adversaries pack up and join forces. Our deterrence is kind of ambiguous. We kind of create false red lines, right? There's economic warfare kind of behind the scenes taking place that radicalizes people on both sides, right? Somebody out there figures out, all right, we're going to start choking these sea lanes out to gain a better position economically, wink, wink, nod, nod, right? Political violence at home because people are afraid, people are unsure and they don't trust the institutions, what are telling them all's okay. There's nothing to see here, right? There's nothing going, don't nothing to see, right? You know, the, uh, people crying, um, or, or, you know, I just always think back to the COVID riots and the dude standing with the city, with the police station burning behind him in Minnesota. And it's like, it's mostly peaceful protests out here. You're just like, dude, what the hell? And I think that also lends itself to the fundamental distrust of pretty much Gen X and below of our institution. No one trusts the government. No one trusts the– not no one. That's exaggerated. There are certain people that are still very loyal to it. I'm being hyperbolic. But if you ask a majority of people genuinely what they really feel, in particular millennials and down, they're going to tell you that trust is, is really shaken for sure. Right. And then the other is that, you know, the last one, seven is regional wars are actually, there's, there's a lot going on. There's conflict brewing and not brewing, but there is conflict. We are literally, as I said before, in two wars, three, if you count the economic one, but we're there. It's not like we're not there. So, What do we do? What do we do as people who do not want to go to war? And that's what camp I'm in, all right? Just so everybody knows, why are you doing this? We always wanted to assume that you were a guy that was pro-military and pro-America and pro-dominance. And I'm all of those things, trust me. I am. I absolutely believe in the power of American service, uh, the, the, the significance of the American, um, capital machine, if, if pushed in the right direction, as well as our, the, the, the, the superior nature of our ability, uh, to, uh, present ourselves as a global power and global leader, uh, um, in some core concepts of, of liberty and, and a democratic Republic. However, I am also, uh, not going to lie to you and say, and you just heard me ran on for, uh, geez, what does that say? 60 minutes, something like that up there now, um, on, on the signs of wars of what it leads up into these wars. And so And I also quoted that book, The First Fourth Turning. You should go check that out. So do I believe it's inevitable? Well, there's always a possibility. And as a motivational guy, I want to believe that, yeah, there's a possibility that we can find diplomacy, come to some type of agreement, and basically allow Iran– to regain its composure, take some sanctions off them, put some hardcore stipulations on nuclear development, have them reopen the Strait of Hormuz and get that thing back to normal. I do believe that there's a way out of Ukraine and Russia's conflict as well. Unfortunately, I think Zelensky is going to have to sacrifice those regencies lost and then give some type of dedicated commitment never to have NATO in Ukraine and then a usage agreement for Crimea for the Russian Navy. I don't think there's any other way out of that other than the decimation of Ukraine, which then I think provokes– article five, because I think, you know, it sounds like Poland's itching to do it. And so is NATO, but I hope not. As for, you know, our own struggles at home, we're coming into the midterms. It's not looking good for the Republicans right now. I think they're recognizing they're, they're most certainly going to lose one, if not both the house and the Senate. And so they're preparing for, the onslaught of what they're going to deal with there. We'll probably see more executive orders in human history, more pardons in human history come out of this administration. But again, I can't predict the future out of Chris Paul. So what I do think is strengthen the bonds of your own community, right? Strengthen your focus on the thing that's going to make your family healthy. Uh, get offline more, get your kids offline, go outside, go for walks, go to the beach, uh, take up some unique, cool hobby, uh, get in your Bible, uh, have great fellowship with your, your people. Uh, because at the end of the day, um, uh, I never believed that, uh, I've never seen voting so far. preclude us from the inevitability of this level of conflict. And, you know, that's why I kind of started with Woodrow Wilson promised we're not going to war. We're in World War I. FDR promised we're not going to war. We're in World War II. You had LBJ promise we're not going into Vietnam. We're in Vietnam. You had George Bush Jr. come in. You know, we're done. We're going to Focus on the home. 9-11 happens in 20 years sustained. Even Obama said, you know, we're done with these wars and we stayed his entire term. And then Trump, no new war. And we've been involved in wars there ever since as well too. So quite frankly, I think every politician is full of shit. I think they're at the behest of the people that fund them. They're at the behest of the people that make money at this level. So unless something radically changes politically, I think the first and foremost thing that needs to change is we need to have in-person paper ballot voting to really see where America actually stands. You most likely have heard multiple shows that we've done on electronic voting machines and mail-in votings. I've had multiple experts. And by the way, one of my favorites, David Clements, who had a massive heart attack two weeks ago, is home. He's feeling better. He sent out a message yesterday, so we're praying for him to continue his healing. But yeah, strengthen your community because what you're going to see now is you're going to see the younger generation starting to pull together in resistance against what they perceive to be is an endless chronological reality of corruption. And unfortunately, that can go multiple ways. But what we don't want it to go is down the revolutionary way, because that would be catastrophic for all of us. And we don't need that. We can figure this out. Maybe it's a third party. Maybe it's we all say we're not paying our taxes until something changes. I don't know. I don't know what it's going to be, but I'm paying attention to it. I just wanted to give you some context of where we're at, how to think about it. uh, to provoke that deeper introspection in you. Um, and also to, uh, throw a little fast bang and troop, uh, in your prefrontal cortex to kind of like snap you too, is like, oh man, we're in a unique time and space in history. Uh, so we need to pay attention, get involved and strengthen, uh, the most, uh, important relationships we have in our life. All right. That's it. Thank you very much, everybody. Uh, thanks for paying attention again. Uh, if you love the show, please like follow, share it. introduce someone else to it. But Jordy and I are truly grateful for all of you that are paying attention and listening. We love you. God bless you.
Speaker 1: We're not predicting a war. We're at war. We're not, you know, raising the red flag because the red flag is already up. And we're not just in one war. We're in three wars. A hot war, kinetic war with Iran. We're in a proxy war that has the potential of breaking out into a kinetic regional war with NATO and Ukraine-Russia. We've got an economic war that's taking place here at home. Why we go to war? Why does it happen? how do we get caught up in it? I've essentially learned how to read the signs. So the seven signs, sign number one, this was fascinating. In November of 1916, Woodrow Wilson ran on the promise that American boys would not be going overseas to participate in World War I. Five months later, we were in World War I. In 1940, Franklin Delano Roosevelt promised American sons that we would not get involved in that engagement. And he would not send anybody to a foreign war that wasn't for us. Pearl Harbor happened 13 months later. LBJ Lyndon Baines Johnson ran on the promise in 1964 as a peace candidate. LBJ the peace candidate against Barry Goldwater. Well, guess what? Rolling Thunder started 41 days after his inauguration. Every single one of these presidents in the moment as they were campaigning probably meant it in some way, shape or form or wanted to believe they meant it. But if you simply look back throughout human history, in particular, our human history as Americans, From 75 to 1812 to 1861, 1898, 1917, 1941, 1950, 1965, 1990, and 2001, we have gotten into it and gone to war. And not just in a little way, in a big way. And as a person who spent the greater portion of my adult life involved in this type of thing, whether it's the SEAL teams or Blackwater or the agency, I've had a lot of time to reflect on why we go to war. Why does it happen? How do we get caught up in it? And it was kind of interesting. I've essentially learned how to read the signs. Now, why am I doing this show today? Well, because... I was scrolling on X as I typically do to try and find out what topic I'm going to do or who I'm going to interview. And by the way, if you want to follow us, you can follow the show at DRutherfordShow on X or me. You can follow me at TeamFrogLogic and you can follow me on Instagram at the same or you can follow the show at DavidRutherfordShow on all the other platforms. So as I was scrolling through the other day, I came across this great video this young guy did about this fantastic book and I, and you probably heard of it, but, um, it's called the fourth turning. And, and I had, I had heard about it here and there. People, a lot of podcasters have done shows about this theory, uh, from these two guys, William Strauss and Neil Howe. And this book was published in 1997. And, um, you know, there's a, how, how did a followup book called, uh, the fourth turning and it's the fourth turning is here. and published that in 23. And so that's one making the rounds as well again, too. But essentially what these guys break down is that in American history, we live in these cycles, 80 to 100 year cycles. And it's roughly one human generation, right? I guess that's the way it breaks down. And he breaks out each cycle of these 80 to 100 years as these Four turnings, ending quotations, right? About 20 years per each segment. And so here, the four turnings are the high, the awakening, the unraveling, and the crisis, and the fourth turning. All right. So obviously, the high happens right after a particular crisis. With strong institutions, great conformity, and a great rebuilding. Think about post-World War II times. And, you know, the white picket fences in the suburbs and Shangri-La fucking Elvis and, you know, and, you know, muscle cars and, you know, this great time of the, the 1950s. Right. Then the next, there's this place called the awakening and that's where people begin to rebel against the particular institutions that essentially are governing them. Right. And there's typically a, a bit of cultural or spiritual upheaval, right? Think about 64 to 84, right? And in that time, you had the civil rights, the anti-war movement, the counter-cultural revolution. You had, you know, the breakup of the Soviet Union. You had the oil embargoes, terrorism emerged, like a big change, right? And then the third is the unraveling. And this is where the institutions really become more weak, weakened, and individualization rises. Specific groups begin to pit themselves against one another, right? And the biggest thing of this is that societal trust begins to implode, right? That's 84 to the mid-2000s and what we've seen through that time, right? The rise of political correctness, the rise of America becoming the singular empire of the world, right? The middle class are government debt skyrocketing to $ 40 trillion, right? And then the last is the crisis, obviously. And that's where the old order breaks down, right? And then a crisis happens and then the country has to rebuild it through an existential emergency and very often a war. Now, you know, you've, we have all these examples throughout history and that they bring it, uh, they bring it into line and I recommend go picking up the book. Uh, I just started reading it last week and that's really what was provoking, uh, this idea in me. Um, and so what I, Jordi and I were, we're doing a show and we started thinking about, man, I wonder if there's a, a way to drill down even more, right. To say, to look at the five to 10 years prior to a war taking place. And if there were any patterns and what it kicked out were these really interesting breakdown that it call, you know, we, we kind of distilled down into the seven signs. Right. And so we're going to go through this and, you know, our job is not to, um, convince you that this is a definitive way to evaluate history and to predict what's coming in the future. Uh, where our intention is not to sway you away from what your preconceived notions, how this thing, maybe you've read the four turning, that's your deal. Or maybe you've read some other great book. All I'm trying to do with all of you is as, as I always try and do is to provide some greater context to your critical thinking. To provoke you to say, man, that's an interesting way to think about it. All right. So the seven signs, sign number one. This was fascinating. The enemy tells us what they intend to do, right? And then what do we do? We file it away and we're like, check, Roger, good to go. So let's just start at World War I. Now, we entered the war in basically 1917. It had already been gone on. Absolutely devastating war in Europe. Now, many people believe that some anarchist shot some duke or some guy over in some bizarre place we can't even name, and that's how all of a sudden then everybody, you know, 24 million people just decided to annihilate each other on the Eastern and Western fronts. It's not what went down, right? What, what ended up happening was, you know, people and people want to drill it into this one concept called the Zimmerman telegram. Um, and this was a secret coded message sent on 16, January, 1917 by German foreman, German form, uh, foreign secretary, um, Arthur Zimmerman to German minister in Mexico, Henrik Weineckert. And basically was like, Hey, let's try and get Mexico in this thing before the United States comes in and starts helping Germany or England and France. And which by the way, we're the French were have, we're seated with tons of uprisings and people were mass mutinies. And you, Even England was suffering from this. Russia was going through the Russian Bolshevik Revolution, so they were pulling out of– they were killing the czars and pulling out of there. You had a communism that was ripping through the back end of Germany. Germans were starving. The war had been going on since 14, and people were tired of it for sure. But this thing was kind of like the predecessor to go, hey, we got wind of this. It's like, hey, man, they're talking about bringing Mexico and hitting us here to prevent us from going over there. We ought to do that. But this was a bigger arms race that really kicked this thing off. And the main focus was between England and Germany, right? When Germany, the post-industrial revolution took place, they started manufacturing like the Germans could do. And they started just mass producing ships up to the point where they're about 60% bigger than at the time, uh, the British Navy, which the sun never set on the British empire. That's from those days with colonial right there, colonial imperialism. Um, you know, so what is England doing? Well, Germany's gonna, you know, affect our, uh, our control of international shipping and trade, which was the most profitable thing in the world at the time, right? That's how, uh, international commerce took place and still takes place by the way, wink, wink, nod, nod today. Think of the Gulf of Hormuz, right? Uh, also think of the Mediterranean too. That's relevant as well as what we got going on too. So, you know, you had this thing come out and that was, so there was signs like that. The enemy was kind of telling us what was going to take place. You know, you go into world war one. Um, obviously we now know that the British, uh, and deciphered some code and they knew that Japan was interested in bombing us on December 7th. And this year is the 85th anniversary. I'll be going out there with Black Rifle Coffee to celebrate. It's going to be a great event. Stay tuned to that. We're going to have some good footage for you from that. But again, you know, and also Japan had ceased diplomatic relations because what did we do? We ended up basically turning off the spigot for them because they had been at war with the Chinese for a while, you know, and they roughly killed about 30 million Chinese. The Chinese were kind of sympathetic to the Russians. Um, you know, a lot of crazy stuff was going on. And so, you know, that was it. And, um, you know, I think there was also other aspects of, of World War II. There was a preliminary thing that Germany was essentially trying to tell everybody, Hey, this is what I'm going to do. There was even a pack signed with the Russians about Poland because Russia wanted some of Poland and Germany wanted their, uh, ancestral German lands back that had happened after Versailles. And so all this was taking place. Like it just didn't happen. It wasn't just like, Oh, December 7th, let's go to fucking war. You know, that's not the way this stuff works. There's, you know, we, we, we, We always like we, whoever writes those damn history books that we force our children to digest ought to be, I was going to say something nasty ought to be taken out back and slapped. All right. Uh, because we're doing our children a disservice. We're not teaching them real history. Um, let's talk about nine 11, right? You can go back and basically look at what was transpiring with the Mujahideen once we pulled out of once Russia left and the Russian war. And basically, you know, you can laugh because we had the towers bombing in 93. We had the bin Laden actually posted and you can find this online. posted a declaration of war against the United States and Israel and gave a whole list of what why he was pissed and what it was. He didn't want military bases in the Middle East, especially in Saudi Arabia. He wanted Israel kicked out and our support of Israel. He didn't like that. So there was all these things. And the embassy bombings in 98, the coal bombing in 2000, There was the Phoenix memo that came out, uh, FBI and the agency, August 6th, 2001. And that was in the president's daily brief that said, uh, bin Laden is determined to strike the U S in quotes. And that was in the president's daily brief. You know, now we know if, if you've walked any of the recent documentaries at pre nine 11, right? The Saudi, there was a Saudi intelligence officer that was actually assisting two of the hijackers in San Diego, uh, We had the FBI that was aware that these guys were at shitty flight schools down in whatever. So the enemy was essentially telling us, hey, this is coming. But we didn't do it. We just filed it away. And now let's just go to the check of what we're in right now. And by the way, just to let you know, we're not predicting a war. We're at war. Let me just repeat that again to you. I am not predicting. Nobody else is predicting. We're not, you know, raising the red flag because the red flag is already up. Red flag is already up. We are at war. Now, maybe because my generation and the GWAT has numbed your senses and Because of 22 years of sustained war over in the Middle East. And by the way, we weren't in just one war. We were in two wars for 20 years. And because the body count didn't affect your hometown, other than the occasional guy dying here and that, you had a plaque down by the police station or in the memorial gardens or memorial funeral place. unlike World War II, where there were giant monuments erected in the city center with hundreds and hundreds of names of local boys that died downrange. Because we didn't have that, you got anesthetized to it. You got numb to warfare. And because of the way we operate now with these special missions or these activities, like special things like taking out Maduro or assassinating the Atayatullah Khomeini or that you're okay with this because guess what? It's still drone strikes and anything. Well, I guess what? We just lost a 37 year old woman overseas. She died, not from combat related that we know of, but she died overseas as the 19th service member we've lost in this war, this war we're in with Iran that has 110, 20 million people or 97 million or however many millions of Persians were in a war with them. That's the reality. Us and Israel are in a war with nobody else against Iran. And our member states, our Gulf states, they're in a war. They're getting the bitter end of that war and their infrastructure being destroyed. Pipelines being destroyed, refineries being destroyed. And now the regional war, the Houthis are going in Yemen and now they're with the Saudis and all that. And then there's this other thing you got going on in Russia and Ukraine. That's a war. It's not a conflict. It's not a war. And by the way, just to let you know, just to let you know, in case you're not aware of this or you don't want to admit it, We are funding that war. So we are utilizing the Ukrainian military and people as a proxy to fight Russia. And if you pay attention, you go back a couple shows. I did the whole history of NATO's involvement with Russia and how we got into the Ukrainian war, how it started. It wasn't just Putin just woke up one day and said, oh, shit. Let's just invade Ukraine. That's not the way it worked. This was a 20-year provocation back and forth with us sponsoring majority of this provocation with our European partners and NATO inching closer to Russia. So we are in a war with Iran, with Israel, and we are fully supporting a war that Ukraine– is in a war with Russia, right? Who has the largest nuclear stockpiles in the world. So that's the fact. So we're already in this, but you could go back to the last five years and certainly look at the rhetoric, look at what's been taking place, look at what's happening. And just to go back and let you know and remind you, To frame this out for you like I did with Woodrow Wilson and FDR and LBJ, if you don't remember, I'll refresh your mind. I don't know how many times I saw it and I voted for Trump on the campaign, No New Wars. And that and immigration were the primary reasons why I supported President Trump. That and the fact that Kamala Harris was fucking nuts and was a complete plant. We were going to go into absolute socialist nightmare if she won. Potentially. We don't know. It didn't happen. But it certainly felt like we were going that way. But Donald Trump looked at all of our faces over and over and over again and said, I will never go to war in the Middle East, ever. And what happens? Not even a year plus into it, we bomb the hell out of them. Six months later, we're in war. We've been in war for 200 and some odd days, 210 days or something. That's the reality. That's where we're at. So there are always signs of the buildup, right? Of what's happening. The enemy's going to tell you why they're pissed and we're going to like, oh yeah, okay, we got it. Just put it over here and not do anything about it. Okay. So the other aspect, this I found interesting as well too, is that our adversaries will begin to link up prior to as well too. They'll start developing these packs, these, these relationships, right? And when you had the Anglo-German arms race that led up into World War I, you had these alliance blocks that started to take place. There was this alliance between Germans and the Prussians and the alliance between the French and the English. And Germany tested France on multiple occasions. Um, you know, and, and there's some really interesting ones that came out. Um, there was a, some Balkan conflicts that took place in 1912, right? There was the 1930s army bill that Germany passed, uh, the largest peacetime army increase. So they started building and then they started helping kind of regional partners build as well and selling armaments to them. And also, by the way, a lot of these technologies of plants and all this stuff, they were interrelated, right? And if you want to really blow your mind, go back and see how Henry Ford was involved in Germany during the 1930s, as well as involved with the Russians in the 1930s as well, too. War makes money, baby. So 19, World War II. Then you had the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, right? Which was a pact between the Nazis and the Soviets, right? And it was a non-aggression deal with secret protocol that would carve up Eastern Europe, right? Which was Poland, the Baltics, Finland, and Bessarabia. And it basically gave the green light for Hitler to invade Poland on 1st September 1939 and let Stalin grab his share two weeks later, right? So... Think about that, which is fascinating to me because then somehow we partnered with Russia and then post-World War II, we gave Russia Eastern Europe anyways, which ended up being a pretty catastrophic thing for Eastern Europeans. Just go look at the history of what communism did in there. And by the way, you always have to go back and I'm listening. There's this great World War II podcast that I highly recommend regardless of what you've heard. the history and it is phenomenal. It's called the martyr maid show. Uh, he's doing a 10, potentially 10 to 12 part series. And each one of these like four or five hours long. And his current one is about world war two. Uh, and it's called the Germans war. And it's told from the eyes of the German people. And currently the, the episode three that I'm in right now is post world war one. What happens in the communist spread of, after the Bolshevik, right? The Red Terror and the move into Hungary, the move into Germany. And if you don't know, Germany almost clapped on multiple occasions. Berlin was almost taken down. Munich was converted into a Soviet Republic. Like this was all over the place. Finland had to fight back. Lithuanians almost fell to communism as well too. So this scourge was all over the place. So, you know, people were trying to figure out Who to partner with and why to protect themselves from this impending catastrophic ism of communism, right? Which ultimately led to the deaths of about 65 million people through Stalin and the Bolsheviks in Russia alone. Another 40 to 60 million in China and Mao Zedong. And then also they contributed massively to a large-scale death count in World War II and post-World War II. Um, you can even go up and, and, you know, talk about, you can look at what's taking place in the middle East and you can look at the eighties, you know, and the fact that, you know, it's kind of ironic that we actually supplied Saddam Hussein with weapons and the Iranian Iraq war kind of supplied Iran with some stuff as well too, through the Israelis. So both sides are funding, right. We, we support, we fought. We supplied the Muhajideen, which essentially was a bunch of Saudis. It was bin Laden in Afghanistan. We've seen recently, we found out that the Israelis were funding Hamas through to the tune of like, I don't even know how many millions every month or something. And Netanyahu said, oh, I can control the fire type thing. So there's a lot of underlying things that are taking place where People are packing up. Like you look at like Russia and Ukraine and you look at BRICS and you also look at what's happened as a result of the Ukraine, Russia and the European Union, NATO and us supplying Ukraine with weapons systems and intelligence and all this stuff. What happened to Russia? Well, they went and they partnered up with Taiwan, who, by the way, have already told us in the last administration, Biden's administration, you had multiple people, very senior members of his cabinet basically said, our new policy is, uh, we are not going to defend Taiwan. That's a, that's a regional problem. That's it. And you've had Xi repeatedly said, we will unify. This is our land. And now Russia, India, and, um, and China are in bricks, right? You can put South Africa in there, but, but, you know, they have a lot of Resources, but they don't have much fighting force for sure. But there are other people that are part of BRICS now, dozens of other countries. So they're partnering up. So what happens if this thing scales and breaks out? Do the three most significant populations with the most significant resources in the world, they partner up in a world war against the European Union and us? What happens? Is that a possibility? Probably something to think about. I just want to really talk about my incredible partnership with one of my best friends, and that's Evan Hafer and the boys over at Black Rifle Coffee. I'm so honored to be a part of their organization. And just really can't thank them enough for allowing me to participate. What I want you to do is go to BlackRifleCoffee.com, and I want to check out their new energy drinks. They have these incredible energy drinks that you can buy at all different kinds of stores, Wal-Mart. Bass Sports and others. Or you can go online and order. And if you want to put in your little promo code, FrogLogic20, there you get a little discount on stuff there. I highly recommend that. For me, it's my morning coffee. 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The revisionist powers test, test the red lines and found nothing behind them, right? Right. All these European countries had said, you know, if you, if you do this, we're not going to do anything. Or if you do this, we're going to come and we're going to fight back. Well, guess what? Jeremy's like, okay, here's the line. Here's the line. Here's the line. And nothing happens. Right. Right. So you can look at that red line as kind of a parody of sorts, if you will, right? In the Korean War, right, we had this massive demobilization of Europe post-World War II. Remember, all of Europe was utterly destroyed, destroyed. And so as we were trying to help facilitate some form of governance emerging, and then, by the way, as we're doing this and all this destruction taking place, like entire massive cities that had lasted for a thousand years were wiped off the map, completely wiped off the map. So we were focused on that. Well, guess what? As soon as World War II and we, you know, they chop up the world and what happens? The communists go on a terror, man. And they start a communist revolution all over and they start uh, uh, seeking out resources and spreading communism all over. Well, what happens? The massive rise in China, China has its eyes on Southeast Asia and Asia. And what we've taken our eye off the ball. And we're like, wait, what, what are you serious? gave this speech and basically talked about the U.S. 's influence of security. And basically, Korea was outside of that because I really don't think they thought China was going to be a force whatsoever in any way, shape, or form. They didn't play a major role in World War I or World War II or anything. And I think probably the British said, oh, we got China. Don't worry. That's not a threat. We're good. Well, guess what? Yeah. the full invasion took place in June 1950. And this speech he'd given had happened in January 1950. So basically saying, oh, no, we're not worried about Korea. And then June, China invades Korea. Now, again, people are like, well, what does that have to do with us? Well, think about international shipping, international trade, the movement of different goods or services or resources all over the world. So China's gaining its foothold now as a communist country. So now here we are again, 2026. We're at war with Iran. We're at war through a proxy with Russia. The regional other groups are basically seeing us talk about or Trump saying, I'll end this war my first day of office. Zilch, nothing's taking place. I'm going to come in and I'm going to bomb Iran into Timbuktu. I'm going to destroy the civilization. That hasn't happened yet either. So all these commentaries and nothing's taking place, that takes the weight out of kind of the threat, doesn't it? Like any schoolyard bully, what do we always teach our kids? Somebody's talking a lot of smack to you, walk up, drill them straight in the face and see what happens, right? Most of the time, bullies are all bark and no bite. I think people around the world are starting to figure out. One, our munitions production is not up to scale. Two, we can't really have a profound impact to wipe out Russia or to wipe out whatever. And most likely, we're not trying to do that. We're trying to erode them down to a point where for the long term, they don't have the capacity. The people in power know if you can beat somebody or not. And, and how, tell me this, how are you going to beat a nuclear country? You're not. And that plays a major role in the MA in the last 80 years, for sure. You know, um, and so now you even got Trump who's saying, uh, it's the straight of America and I control it and all this, but on the backside, he's asking, basically saying, Hey, NATO and China, can you help us put pressure on Iran, hoping to straight? You know, the other day it was funny. Zelensky is bombing refineries in Russia. Trump comes out and says, you know, on camera says, Zelensky, you need to stop buying in the refineries because you're the diesel price is going through the roof and basically stop doing that. You know, thinking like, oh, I'm in control. And, you know, what's Zelensky do? Week later starts bombing more refineries in Russia. Right. Driving the price up even more. And. That's maybe a show we'll do. I've got this idea that to take the most strategic oil producers and following a barrel of oil all the way through its shipping lanes, where it goes, where it is refined, and then where it's distributed around the world. I think that'd be a cool one to do too, Jordy. All right. Our adversaries are very technically aware of the gaps in our abilities. It's just the way it is. Just like back in the day, You think, you know, you know, how did Japan have any idea what we could or could not do? And, you know, it's like there's intelligence collection has been around since there were two tribes fighting for the same spot. Right. What do you do? You're like, hey, dipshit, pretend you hate our tribe. Go over, live with that tribe and learn and get cozy up to the head dude and then report back where their vulnerabilities are so we can take their shit later. Right. That's as old as time itself. It's called espionage. And as a person that comes from that world, I can tell you it's beyond anything you can imagine right now. And I'm sure all you've seen it. I mean, you see all the flock stuff because it's coming to your backyard right now. You know what the NSA can do through Snowden. right? You know what the agency can do? Well, so can the Russians and so can the Chinese. How many components in your electronic devices that are power in your house have Chinese parts in them, right? Even not Chinese parts, parts that were made in Korea. Is your television listening to you? Is your Nest listening to you, right? Is your iPhone listening to you constantly? How do all those ads pop up on your Insta feed selling you, uh, when you just were talking about buying your new, uh, you know, uh, dry wick boxer briefs, and then you see 15 ads for them pop up. Explain that to me. So, you know, the reality is, is there's all kinds of gaps that are, are, or adversaries see in our ability to actually, whether we'll be effective. Can we, uh, and can we ensure that that our strategic position and our initiatives can be fulfilled. And what you're seeing is you're seeing a massive pushback on that, I believe. And when that becomes apparent, people freak out, right? And they do dramatic things because the oldest thing in the proverbial book, tactically, punch first and punch hard, right? Put your enemy on their heels and then hope you got enough resources in place and you can gain the tactical advantage before your enemy gets their feet underneath and starts punching back. All right? Sign number four. Economic warfare always comes before the shooting. And we can go all the way back. Let's try the revolution in this context, right? What happened? We had basically... The Brits realize there's a bunch of scallywags down there, a bunch of revolutionaries. So what are we going to do? We're going to tax them even higher. And we're going to wage war on them. We're going to shut down imports, control import exports, taxations higher. We're going to load them with an economic burden that demoralizes them so that takes the fight out of them, right? But here's the problem with that type of thing, right? What happens when you impose these types of economic sanctions on people or you impose these economic punishments on people, what happens? It radicalizes the people most effective, which are middle and lower class people. Because if you're only making $ 55, 000 a year, And you're driving a truck to make that money in your organization. You're an independent contractor and your company doesn't pay for your diesel. And now you're paying seven 50 or six 50 or seven bucks, whatever it is for diesel. And that eats into about 35% of your margin or maybe less. Cause a lot of times margins for those people are so de minimis. It's, it's tough to eke out a living as is. Do you think that's going to radicalize people? Do you think if you make your energy costs shoot through the roof and you can't heat your family, do you think that's going to radicalize people? Do you think if you excessively tax people, you tax everything on them, you think that's going to radicalize people right think about the war of 1812 right jefferson had the embargo act of 1807 which wrecked our own economy by the way and so british orders in the council uh choke trade uh self-inflicted economic pain uh came before the war which it meant to prevent You can go into World War II. There was the lend-lease in March of 1941, the US oil embargo of July 1941. Four months later, Japan bombs us. There's all these typical financial abnormalities or panics or whatever you want to call them that typically lead up to these ideas because people start seeing the– you know, the, the sandbox, the tactical space change, and where's the easiest way to, if you have any, um, participation in the global economy, you start turning off a valve here or making this valve rust out here, actually blowing that oil well up here, that oil thing over here. And what happens? It put, yeah, it certainly puts stress on your adversaries and radicalizes them even more, but it also puts stress on your own economy. Like we're seeing now. And so you get people coming out and saying, well, isn't it better to pay $ 6. 50 for gas instead of Iran having a nuclear weapon? We have definitely increased. We've got a naval blockade going in Iran. We've got the Lindsey Graham Act that extends energy and weapons sanctions all over the place. We've got new treasury sanctions on Iranian aviation and logistics. As a result, we've got oil shock, global food prices. There's pressure on that. There's the cause of upcoming famines because fertilizer isn't accessible. I want to talk about impact. Look at all the African nations here in the next year or two. We are in this tariff thing with our allies to the point now where Canada is bringing over Chinese delegates. They're working with the European Union and NATO basically. We just did this show where we had Mark Root coming out and he talked about the new NATO Alliance 3.0, which is non-transatlantic except Canada. Imagine if all of a sudden China... russia and india partner up right to gain some world hegemony and start making some moves and incursions or whatever and then we want to push back and then we say all right canada european union australia let's go and they look at us and they say right here big boy right here and if you are listening it's i just gave two middle fingers to the camera this is a reality of how it happens now to a caveat to continue going on this. And you look at sign five, right? Where you really start to see things because nothing happens in this. It's not like, because we have AI in the, in the interwebs that like the world doesn't run on shipping. Like if, if you want to understand who controls the world and who dominates the world, who owns the shipping companies? Who are the major holders? How much merchandise are moved in these shipping? How much oil? How many natural resources? How much of the dumb shit that you consume every day is in a shipping container at length? What companies insure the shipping containers, right? And if you're not familiar, you go all the way back to the Venetians. Let's talk about the East India Trading Company. Let's talk about modern shipping today. You want to get into who controls the world. It's them, and then it's the big finance companies, the Black Rocks, the State Streets, and the Vanguards, right? That's a lane, obviously. We keep threatening to go down that, but, man, I don't want to poke that bear, dude. We won't last 30 seconds after that show, Jordy. All right, so what? Go back to the Barbary Wars. What happened? We were paying tribute. to the Barbary pirates of the Mediterranean until finally they captured our sailors and we had to go in there with our Marines in the first Northern African invasion and kick some ass, right? The War of 1812, you had the Chesapeake Leopard in 1807. The Royal Navy fired on the U.S. warship and impresses the sailors, orders the council choke trade, a foreign power controlling the sea lanes American commerce depends on. On the oldest American Cassius belly, right? So like, this is not new world war one, uh, the Lusitania incident, right? Understricted submarine warfare by the Germans. The Germans are like, fuck you, uh, Brits. We got these things called you boats. We're in control. Now you want to talk about control that led all the way up into world war two, right? I mean, that was a massive problem for us and for Britain getting support from us through our merchant Marine ships. Cause you boats were blowing them out of water. So England started suffering pretty substantially. And that's why they needed us to get in the war as badly as they did as, as they needed. And again, where are we at right now, man, the Straits of Hormuz shipping, right? Then you've got the Straits over in, uh, the Gulf of Arabia, right? Over on the other side where the Yemen, the Houthis and the Yemenis and the Saudis and that all going, you've got the Caspian Sea, you've got the Mediterranean, you've got the Malaccan Straits with Chinese in quotation fishing vessels, right? You've, I mean, global shipping is a primary source of of indicators that something is brewing. And it ultimately leads to backing us into a corner, if you will. That's the way it is. All right. Sign number six, political violence at home and unrest. Now, we've seen this extensively. Got 1776, the Boston Revolution, the Civil War. We had bleeding Kansas, 1856. Senator Sumner was caned on the Senate floor in 1856. The Dred Scott case, court loses half the country in the battle in 1857. The panic of 1857, right? John Brown's raid in 1859. A four-way election, right? The loser's side refuses the result to acknowledge the result in 1860, thereby... creating the, uh, the opportunity for what a, a, uh, uh, an attack on Fort Sumner, the Spanish American war, 1898, right? You had the Hertz Pulitzer circulation, uh, uh, war manufacturers outrage, right? That this thing, the ship got blown up in the, in the Harbor in Cuba, uh, and what we ended up learning. Well, we're not sure, right? Some people say the Spanish fired first, um, Whatever one you want to believe happened, what does that do? That thrust us into a war, right? Violence. In the modern era, in the last year and a half, what have we had? What do we got here at home? We've got two assassination attempts on our president. that we still don't understand why or what happened. No information. Although then it's cut and dry case. We had an assassination on the most substantial, most substantially influential nationalistic Christian person in modern history in terms of Charlie Kirk gets assassinated by what? Some lone gunman furry. Are you kidding me? I don't buy it. And you've got this, you know, domestic, stressors going on. Look at what was going on in Minnesota with ice agents. You've got active protests, no Kings protests. You've got, uh, there's been a one or two people, you know, driving into people or stabbings or, you know, shooting people, shooting Jewish people on the streets. You've got an assassination of a CEO, right? This, this is a rising tide of violence that's built upon this division that seems to be, uh, infecting, uh, The American consciousness, this is a reality. You could look at that before Vietnam exploded and the civil rights movement and where that came from, the counterculture revolution, the anti-war movement, right? All that. There was a big anti-war movement before World War II that most people don't know about. There was a big anti-movement against World War I that took place, right? These are consistent signs that take place. All right. All right. Sign seven, a regional war is already burning and we're in the middle of it. So again, I go back to this concept. We're already here. We're already at war. And we're not just in one war. We're in three wars, I believe. A hot war, a kinetic war with Iran. We're in a proxy war that has the potential of breaking out into a kinetic regional war with NATO and Ukraine-Russia. We've got an economic war that's taking place here at home. Like everybody's saying, no, the economy is the best it's ever been. I just saw a new home loan interest rate, 7.5. For a pound of beef, I go to Trader Joe's and I get a little teeny filet mignon for 22.85, under eight ounces. And you're telling me we're in, I got my gas is over five bucks. I got diesel at 6.50. Fuck, man. Look at what college institutions are charging people. $ 100, 000 to go to some university that you're going to get a degree in that's going to be obsolete in three years. And no correction is taking place. Right? And then you look at the most obvious place that seems to be emerging is the conscientious or the subconscious war between between the generations right you've got the boomers who are spending their you know their millions of dollars of retirement money and 401ks and the house they bought for 65 000 is now worth 1.2 million and they've got a second home up in on a lake somewhere in the midwest and They're driving four cars and they can't get their kids out of their house because they're living in their basement. Man, they're going down to Cancun and Tulum and they're going to Europe twice a year. But guess what? Their kid who graduated in the top 10% of his class at Clemson University can't get a fucking job, can't find a house, and can't find a mate because guess what? All these women are pissed off at the universe. For some reason, because of feminism or something, or I don't know, they're just angry about maybe the opportunities or what they've been fed. They don't even know what they're angry about to the point where you've got a ton of them supporting some woman who murdered her three kids. Are you kidding me? So there's a subconscious war taking place for our brains going on too in these damn algorithms. And if you think that ain't the truth, think again. So those are the seven signs. And these patterns aren't exact in every single one, but it was pretty fundamentally clear that these things add up. And those seven signs, just to recap them, are the enemy tells us what he intends to do. The adversaries pack up and join forces. Our deterrence is kind of ambiguous. We kind of create false red lines, right? There's economic warfare kind of behind the scenes taking place that radicalizes people on both sides, right? Somebody out there figures out, all right, we're going to start choking these sea lanes out to gain a better position economically, wink, wink, nod, nod, right? Political violence at home because people are afraid, people are unsure and they don't trust the institutions, what are telling them all's okay. There's nothing to see here, right? There's nothing going, don't nothing to see, right? You know, the, uh, people crying, um, or, or, you know, I just always think back to the COVID riots and the dude standing with the city, with the police station burning behind him in Minnesota. And it's like, it's mostly peaceful protests out here. You're just like, dude, what the hell? And I think that also lends itself to the fundamental distrust of pretty much Gen X and below of our institution. No one trusts the government. No one trusts the– not no one. That's exaggerated. There are certain people that are still very loyal to it. I'm being hyperbolic. But if you ask a majority of people genuinely what they really feel, in particular millennials and down, they're going to tell you that trust is, is really shaken for sure. Right. And then the other is that, you know, the last one, seven is regional wars are actually, there's, there's a lot going on. There's conflict brewing and not brewing, but there is conflict. We are literally, as I said before, in two wars, three, if you count the economic one, but we're there. It's not like we're not there. So, What do we do? What do we do as people who do not want to go to war? And that's what camp I'm in, all right? Just so everybody knows, why are you doing this? We always wanted to assume that you were a guy that was pro-military and pro-America and pro-dominance. And I'm all of those things, trust me. I am. I absolutely believe in the power of American service, uh, the, the, the significance of the American, um, capital machine, if, if pushed in the right direction, as well as our, the, the, the, the superior nature of our ability, uh, to, uh, present ourselves as a global power and global leader, uh, um, in some core concepts of, of liberty and, and a democratic Republic. However, I am also, uh, not going to lie to you and say, and you just heard me ran on for, uh, geez, what does that say? 60 minutes, something like that up there now, um, on, on the signs of wars of what it leads up into these wars. And so And I also quoted that book, The First Fourth Turning. You should go check that out. So do I believe it's inevitable? Well, there's always a possibility. And as a motivational guy, I want to believe that, yeah, there's a possibility that we can find diplomacy, come to some type of agreement, and basically allow Iran– to regain its composure, take some sanctions off them, put some hardcore stipulations on nuclear development, have them reopen the Strait of Hormuz and get that thing back to normal. I do believe that there's a way out of Ukraine and Russia's conflict as well. Unfortunately, I think Zelensky is going to have to sacrifice those regencies lost and then give some type of dedicated commitment never to have NATO in Ukraine and then a usage agreement for Crimea for the Russian Navy. I don't think there's any other way out of that other than the decimation of Ukraine, which then I think provokes– article five, because I think, you know, it sounds like Poland's itching to do it. And so is NATO, but I hope not. As for, you know, our own struggles at home, we're coming into the midterms. It's not looking good for the Republicans right now. I think they're recognizing they're, they're most certainly going to lose one, if not both the house and the Senate. And so they're preparing for, the onslaught of what they're going to deal with there. We'll probably see more executive orders in human history, more pardons in human history come out of this administration. But again, I can't predict the future out of Chris Paul. So what I do think is strengthen the bonds of your own community, right? Strengthen your focus on the thing that's going to make your family healthy. Uh, get offline more, get your kids offline, go outside, go for walks, go to the beach, uh, take up some unique, cool hobby, uh, get in your Bible, uh, have great fellowship with your, your people. Uh, because at the end of the day, um, uh, I never believed that, uh, I've never seen voting so far. preclude us from the inevitability of this level of conflict. And, you know, that's why I kind of started with Woodrow Wilson promised we're not going to war. We're in World War I. FDR promised we're not going to war. We're in World War II. You had LBJ promise we're not going into Vietnam. We're in Vietnam. You had George Bush Jr. come in. You know, we're done. We're going to Focus on the home. 9-11 happens in 20 years sustained. Even Obama said, you know, we're done with these wars and we stayed his entire term. And then Trump, no new war. And we've been involved in wars there ever since as well too. So quite frankly, I think every politician is full of shit. I think they're at the behest of the people that fund them. They're at the behest of the people that make money at this level. So unless something radically changes politically, I think the first and foremost thing that needs to change is we need to have in-person paper ballot voting to really see where America actually stands. You most likely have heard multiple shows that we've done on electronic voting machines and mail-in votings. I've had multiple experts. And by the way, one of my favorites, David Clements, who had a massive heart attack two weeks ago, is home. He's feeling better. He sent out a message yesterday, so we're praying for him to continue his healing. But yeah, strengthen your community because what you're going to see now is you're going to see the younger generation starting to pull together in resistance against what they perceive to be is an endless chronological reality of corruption. And unfortunately, that can go multiple ways. But what we don't want it to go is down the revolutionary way, because that would be catastrophic for all of us. And we don't need that. We can figure this out. Maybe it's a third party. Maybe it's we all say we're not paying our taxes until something changes. I don't know. I don't know what it's going to be, but I'm paying attention to it. I just wanted to give you some context of where we're at, how to think about it. uh, to provoke that deeper introspection in you. Um, and also to, uh, throw a little fast bang and troop, uh, in your prefrontal cortex to kind of like snap you too, is like, oh man, we're in a unique time and space in history. Uh, so we need to pay attention, get involved and strengthen, uh, the most, uh, important relationships we have in our life. All right. That's it. Thank you very much, everybody. Uh, thanks for paying attention again. Uh, if you love the show, please like follow, share it. introduce someone else to it. But Jordy and I are truly grateful for all of you that are paying attention and listening. We love you. God bless you.
