What Dose Tucker know the truth about UFOs?

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What is the US government's relationship with
these things? And there's evidence that there
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is a relationship and that it's a
longstanding and that raises like a lot of
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questions about intent and so like what
is that? And I just personally decided,
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you know, and people have been
hurt by these things. You know,
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that's a fact. That's a fact. It's a noble fact, it's
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a provable fact. Their main interest
is in convincing that the supernatural is not
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real. That's and if you watch
and there are people in the media who
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specialize in spreading these lies on behalf
of the government. I'm not gonna name
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anybody, but like some of them
work at the New York Times. Once
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you realize what the point of the
exercise is, it's crazy. And I
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hope you'll assess all the fact checking
and the skepticism on UAPs through this lens.
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The main thing they want you to
believe is that the supernatural is not
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real. Well, then you have
to ask yourself, like why say it
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is so interesting? Why is that
important to you? Why do you care
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if I think this supernatural is real? Why why is that? First of
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all, why is it? How
dare you, as my government to try
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to get involved in my spiritual beliefs. That's totally not your errans. Get
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the fuck out of there, Okay, okay, it would be Why has
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that been so important for eighty years
for you to convince me the supernatural is
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not real? Why? Why is
that? And of course I can't answer
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the question, but my gut level
response is well, because if it is
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real, whatever they're telling you is
not real. Good evening, Oaks.
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I left you up, Mark,
I left you up, and the reprobate
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has joined us is here? Is
here are you doing? Oh? What's
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up that? I nailed that intro
and nailed it literally the welcome there,
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you know, good evening folks and
all that jazz. It's yeah, pro
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yeah, fresh. I'm happy.
I'm happy I didn't come back because at
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the time you popped it up,
because I would have been right there on
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my underwear for everybody. I doubt
about it a little bit at the same
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time as well, it was naked
a second ago. I know. Yeah.
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How are you doing, Fellas?
Good? Good? Yeah, it's
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the weekend. You gotta be happy
at Saturday. How could you be mad
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at Saturday? You know? Yeah? You bat Matthew, you back.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, every
time I come on Lee, it's all
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about me being back. Yeah but
no, no, I am absolutely yeah
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here to stay buddy, probably for
forever, for a long time. I
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don't know. We'll see is this
it now? You're gonna are you gonna
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have like a break and like oh, like a like a sabbatical like an
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annual thing. I mean maybe we'll
see how it goes, you know,
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and bunk, Hey, whole UFO? So why is it the UFO?
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What's it called? What's the thing
evented called? Oh? The contest the
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talk radio UFO Talk radio is doing
a Yeah, he's got a They did.
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They started this monologue competition on UFO
Twitter and anyone could could join.
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It's a like a two round tournament
competition kind of thing where you know,
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you can enter by opening your own
Twitter space and then for the first round
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we did I think it was like
between ten and twenty minutes. You did
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like this monologue talking about what's happening, you know, what's happening with UFO,
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disclosure, the phenomenon kind of what
have you? And so they they
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got I think they ran it for
maybe a month month and a half.
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I had known about it before I
decided to go ahead and enter it,
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but it was there, you know, it was very cool and it's it's
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been very interesting. It's fun to
be able to kind of get your your
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voice out there and talk about what
you really think is going on, you
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know, get maybe even get more
personal than you would in typical podcast situations
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or anything like this. But yeah, I was lucky enough to get into
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the top eight, so I'm excited
for that. Next week is a busy
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week because I gotta do set up
my show for Sunday and then I gotta
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get that twenty minute speech twenty to
thirty minute speech for the second round for
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the top eight together at the same
time and record it. And so I'm
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be busy. But it's a lot
of fun. And there's a lot of
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like really big big people on Twitter. They're in it. So I'm definitely
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honored to be there kind of amongst
everybody. It's very cool. Yeah,
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how do O our audience help you
out? Yeah? So the best thing
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you could do is if you look
right underneath here at Torres show material on
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Twitter, if you follow me there. When they release the information about the
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contest, obviously I will retweet it. Or you can follow and I think
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it's at UFO Talk Radio. It's
right there on Twitter you can follow them
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as well, and then they'll let
everybody know when the contest is done,
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who's won. Where you can listen
to all the entries. There's gonna be
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eight new ones. Like I just
mentioned, it's really really interesting stuff.
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A lot of big people. Tupas
in it, by the way, which
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is very cool. Great guy,
so he's in there. Astrolls another big
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guy on Twitter. He talks about
like remote viewing and stuff. He holds
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really interesting spaces. So really cool
names, man, great people. I
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think people will enjoy it. So
follow me on Twitter for that and that'll
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kind of keep you updated on it. Yeah, awesome, mat well,
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good look with them. Thank you, my man. I mean, I
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mean Europe against Tuper as well.
So and Tupe is a great guy.
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So he's very smart. There's a
lot of very smart people, a lot
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of very articulate people in it.
And yeah, it's gonna be a stiff
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competition in the top eight for sure. Yeah. And what does the win
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again, A lot of money.
There's ten thousand total in prizes. First
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place gets five thousand. I think
second place gets three, third gets a
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thousand, and I think the fourth
through eight get two hundred dollars each.
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So yeah, I mean, good
look, the money's cool. It is,
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but I think at the end of
the day, at least for me,
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you kind of you kind of want
to get in there to get your
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voice out and maybe help the topic
if you can. That should be the
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ultimate goal. No, I'm not
against money, you know, I'd like
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to win, but at the same
time, it's like, and I'm giving
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all the money to Ashton Force right
away, you know that's where it's gonna
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go. But now I'm kidding.
But yeah, man, I mean,
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the money's cool and it's there,
but at the end of the day,
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to be able to help the topic
if we can, that should be should
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be a big part. Awesome,
well, good look with that. Good
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look. So Boyce, we we've
we've had finally took her on Sean Ryan
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Show. I've been a big fan
of show Ryans for quite some time now,
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since I think you showed me show. I think you la that showed
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me Sean Ryan's show Man. Maybe
yeah, yeah, yeah, probably possibly
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it was probably the the series he
did with the Three whistle Blowers. They
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were they were probably the best three
podcasts of those individuals. Did. Oh
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yeah, so he kind of I'm
alright by saying it's about a year ago
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that he kind of blew up with
the UFO thing. Maybe two maybe two
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time flies. Yeah, it does
when you're having fun. I got coming
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when when Degree is like whistleblower thing
come out? Was that last year?
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The before I think it was last
year, was right around the time Grush
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came out. I think was it. I think it was before Grush.
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Yeah, yeah, I think you're
right, just before. Yeah, he
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can't remember, but because Steven said
he knew Grush and then Grush didn't say
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much about Steven, Yeah he did. Stevens did say I know David Grush.
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I remember saying that, Yeah,
he did, I know him and
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him and Alexander don't get along lately. It doesn't seem like Grush and Alexander
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get along. That's what's really interesting
to me. Oh, I've this.
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Yeah. I don't think it's like
out in the open, like they're that
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they're arguing or anything like that,
but it just seems like they try to
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stay very distant from each other.
Alizondo just opened up that new U or
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UAP disclosure Fund and where they're trying
to, you know, gather all this
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money. And I think Carl Nell
from the Soul Foundations and along with that
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thing too, But there's like a
lot of big names that are in it.
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You would assume that Grush would be
there, but he's not, which
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was interesting enough to me and I
was lucky enough to uh to hear.
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I think the guy who founded the
disclosure fund for them was in a Twitter
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space and he was talking about how
Grush seems to be more interested in actually
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assisting Congress at that root level with
them, So maybe that's why it didn't
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jump on board. He's kind of
already busy. But I don't know,
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you don't hear them talk much,
right. Interesting. It's interesting because you
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you kind of have it in your
head that they are part of the same
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white plan, like disclosure plan.
The fact that he hasn't jumped on board
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with the disclosure fund shows that there
is, you know, there is at
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at best like conflicting interests between them
all. How do you feel about the
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disclosure full of fund thing? I
mean, for me, I don't really
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know why we need one. I
mean, I think if these people could
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just come out and drop the hard
evidence. We can just bypass everything if
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you could get a stouting. But
if you want to go the route of,
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you know, trying to get legislation
put together and stuff like that,
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it costs money. Yeah, I
get it, But I don't know.
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There's there's a million of these foundations
that are popping up all over the place.
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People buying houses, Yeah, to
for all the disclosure documents. You
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know, when you need like a
place for it. I mean, that's
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kind of what they're they're trying to
do. I understand if they bought a
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house in a swimming pool, all
that sort of thing. You know,
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we need a room for all the
disclosure documents. And when you get a
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bit hot and sweat, if I'm
looking room, you need to cool off
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in the pool. That's just a
little bit of a pleasure that they deserve.
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Yeah, I mean sure, sure, I don't know. I just
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it's just another thing that's asking for
money for something that I don't think that
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we really need money for. I
mean, I agree with timber with timber
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shat, just release the files,
man, Just release something. Put it
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out there, put out what the
government knows. What didn't know though,
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because gone, Tucker. They he
seems to think that they've teamed up with
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the devil himself by the sounds of
it. Maybe what do you guys think?
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Well, I wish Vetted was on, and I know you do lead
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because yeah, well I'll let you
go. No, no, I mean
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the I'll just go over the Tuker
thing, like the it feels whenever he
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comes on. I mean, we've
been like hammering the drum of like UFOs
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being something other than like metal ships
with alien lads in them for quite some
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time, you know, probably a
couple of years. We've we've been i'd
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say ever since ever since they the
government started admitting the UFOs. You know
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that that's been the joke, hasn't
it on this channel ever since then?
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Is that I stopped believing in aliens
the minute the government told me to.
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And I just feel like maybe there
is some what do you call it?
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Uh? Oh, what's the word? I forgot the words, but like
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some some some sort of subconscious leaning
that like Tucker's kind of confirming what we
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we we what, or at least
he's confirming that he believes the type of
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stuff that we've been saying. That's
probably the best way to word it.
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So maybe maybe I'm slightly biased,
But every time I listen to talk to
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talk about UFOs and stuff, I
just I I feel I'm listening to someone
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talk that gets where we've been coming
from for the last couple of years.
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I find it incredibly interesting, and
I find it more interesting in the fact
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that he I genuinely think he's disturbed
by whatever whatever he's been told. I
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think he believes it, and I
think it's disturbed him. It's all about
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who he's been talking to though,
too, right. I mean, we
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know we know he's kind of been
talking to Elsando, Obviously, he interviewed
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Grusha. Those are the people.
I think they're like the outfacing people that
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we know he spoke to. But
I mean, I'm sure he spoke even
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more behind the scenes. Who knows
if he even spoke to Putin when he
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was over there about it. That's
all I want to know. I mean,
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let's let's face it, he is
the I don't know, maybe maybe,
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maybe maybe he is the most acted
journalists in the world. Probably,
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I don't think you have a hard
time going anywhere and speaking, right,
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Yeah, that's I can't I can't
think of another journalist which has the reach
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that that he does. I think
you, I suppose you could possibly you
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could enter a rogan into that as
well. Like the amount of people behind
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the scenes that we will never know
he must have spoke to about things.
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But yeah, Tucker, he he
must know, like he probably knows more
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about what's what's going on in this
than any of those people in Congress do
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up to this point. And you
know, like he does. He seems
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too. He thinks it's a spiritual
thing. I mean, really realistically.
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He was talking about some like a
battle between good and evil, you know,
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in that interview, and it's it's
interesting because I think this is a
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I'm not sure whether this is going
to be like a branch off the topic
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or whether we will We're going to
see the topic like evolve and this is
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actually the next steps in working this
out. I remember the guy, what's
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his name, the Irish guy that
did the Skinwalkers and the Pentagon book.
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I think I forgot where his name
is. McCulloch. Is it something like
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that? Is it Colm Kella?
Her? Colin callaher? That's it?
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So nothing nothing like a McCullough.
And I listened to an interview with him,
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and it was over a year ago
now, maybe maybe two years ago,
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and he said it like the best
I've ever heard anybody say it.
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And he said, if you're not
willing to entertain the fact that UFOs have
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a spiritual element to them, then
you are ill equipped to deal with this
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topic. And I more and more
I think I see that, especially like
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when you go on Twitter and you
look like UFO Twitter and there is a
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there's a divide between the like commentators
that are still stuck in roswell. Something
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crashed, it was taken to an
aircraft hanger. We need to find out
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what's in that aircraft hanger. And
then you've got other people which are willing
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to entertain these other ideas. And
if you just look at them face value,
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one of them is claiming to be
all about science and all about like
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just truth. We just want truth. But I think objectively they look like
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the ones that are like the most
so soaked in dogma, and the people
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that are willing to entertain these ones, I actually the people that are playing
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around with the ideas of what this
could actually be. You know, I
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think it's interesting too, is you
know, we always feel like the general
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public is behind the ball on a
lot of this stuff. But for me,
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with what I kind of think is
possible with the potential for AI and
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what that means for potential, you
know, time travel, future humans,
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what have you. AI has talked
about massively in the general public. Yeah,
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to me, it's almost like,
did they get out ahead of us?
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Maybe would that be if they jumped
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strange to me. Yeah, You've
got a good point there, because especially
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when you look at the let me
say, the Conversations Took His Heaven,
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the type of shows that Rogan's been
doing recently and stuff like that, you
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know that this is that's mainstream media
now. You know, there's more people
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listen to Rogan and like Taker Carson's
podcast and watch CNN or the BBC.
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So that means the broader public is
being exposed to that stuff. Where the
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guys that should be you know,
it should be us guys which are being
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involved in this for for ages,
should be on the cutting edge of the
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information. They're stuck in Twitter spaces
arguing with each other. Yeah, I
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mean that's wild. I mean the
fact that anything that goes down these days
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cannot the Twitter is used as a
platform. Now essentially we got we've got
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a new whistle blower the other day, which I believe maybe coming on the
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show at some point. I don't
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say this because he because he put
a public statement out he was booked to
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come on the show next Saturday.
He then sent me a oh sorry,
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we were trying to get him on
this this Sunday, and then it was
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going to be Saturday. Then on
Friday he sent me an email apologizing,
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he said, and with the statement
that he put out that he'd been in
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contact with someone that had advised that
he removed himself from all engagements that he
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had planned. So I don't I
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okay, and don't worry if you
if you do want to come on at
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some point, just let us know. Do you feel he was advised or
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do you feel he was threatened?
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don't know. How do you get
the vibe of right? I got the
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vibe listen just listening to him,
because obviously I listened to some of his
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space that he did. I didn't
get the feeling that he was necessarily deceptive
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you know, I thought it was
was quite odd. I did find it
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strange, and I was going to
bring it up with him when we spoke
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to him that he kind of just
told me the Stranger Things story. And
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I don't know he he just seemed
like a reasonably good dude. I had
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a decent chat with him over messages, and it was strange when he said
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the people that he'd been dealing with
heard like advised him to pull out of
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things. The only thing I could
think is, there's two lines, isn't
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that one is threatened and if you're
told not to do this. The other
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one is somebody with maybe some more
like media now has turned around. They're
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like, WHOA, stop giving your
story away before we sell it. This
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is true. So I have no
opinion on which way it is. I
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don't know, Like I said the
guy, I spoke to the guy,
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he seemed like a perfect nice dude. Anybody's a nice dude. But and
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this is nothing against the dude here, but if someone does offer you an
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exclusive and they say, listen,
we love your story, but hold your
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fucking horses. Like you just said, there's some money in this. We
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want your so and so and so
and so to do this, what are
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you gonna do. You're gonna go
on the small show. You're going to
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go, I don't go where the
money is. They'll probably go with the
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money. Is this fair? Is
fair? Yeah? I mean, realistically,
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if somebody's gonna if you're going to
tell your story, and it doesn't
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matter where you go, you're going
to tell your story. But one person
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is going to give you fucking eight
grand. And I've known nobody quote me
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on this, by the way,
but if so, if someone's going to
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give you like eight grand and the
other person is going to give you like
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a high five, then you're probably
going to go with the eight grand first
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and then go and get your high
five later. That's it. That's it.
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I mean, look at look at
the there's nothing wrong with that,
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by the way, No, I
don't. I don't think it's anything wrong
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with that either. And then there's
a lot of chelse that would disagree that.
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You know, you've just got to
disclose the information. Yeah, you
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know what, Joe, have worked
out, Joe. You know, the
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people that are really angry about the
people that make money doing this topic are
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the ones that are fucking ship and
the ship and they don't make any money
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or do anything, so they're angry
that anyone else gets traction. Yeah,
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I don't. I don't mind that
with stories, but I think like it
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does irritate me with corbel Has,
like a really good video like the Jellyfish,
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she doesn't put it out. Holding
stuff for two or three years to
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make money. That that does suck. Dude, I would rather have them.
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If he has something that could bring
out potential disculsure like that, you
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have a bomb shallby evidence, dude, just put it out. I don't
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think corbell Has has the choice of
input stuff out. To be honest,
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I think, yeah, I think
he's fed stuff. He's he's definitely when
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you think that stuff for sure.
Yeah. Yeah, But when he turns
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around and says he has stuff,
I don't think he has stuff. I
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think he's told he's gonna get stuff, and then he's given stuff, and
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then he's told when he can put
it out. Yeah, I think he's
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even he's probably even told the description
of it, so he knows what's kind
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of let people in on what he
may be getting. But yeah, I
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mean, I mean less of a
gatekeeper, more of a postman. Yeah,
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there's a a Postman's a great job. Don't get me wrong. You
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know, car all Postmans have good
calves. True. Yeah, look at
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that heart in the summer of the
I mean remember that the Remember the Logan
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Paul thing with the that's whild that
just disappeared, Yeah, that's you don't
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even hear Logan pollering. Those guys
even talk about aliens or anything anymore.
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They're done with it, I guess. I mean, I was convinced that
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was going to be in a documentary
on Netflix. I was. I think
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we'd have got that by now.
He could be waiting though. Guys like
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him are smart though, they know
when to kind of push things when where
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that's all they're doing is watching analytics
all day. I mean, that's their
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life, so it could still be
coming. Sorry. I wonder whether his
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WWE career got in the way of
that. It's a good point, yeah,
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like because I mean, he is
making bank now working for WWE.
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He's one of their top stars,
current US Champion, and in my personal
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opinion opinion as a wrestling fan,
the best celebrity to pro wrestler in the
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history of pro wrestling. I think
he's great, and maybe a company like
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WW and TK KO don't want one
of their top stars being the UFO guy,
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you know, like it's it's it's
weird enough, I think for them
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having someone that's such a big social
media influencer, because usually once you're a
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w DO even when you when you
get people that sort of trans transcend like
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their sport. Like Ronda Rousey is
a good good example of this. When
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she went to work for w W
A and she just became like a WWE
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superstar. I was like, within
a couple of weeks, you've forgot that
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she was a UFC fighter. She
forgot she was after that last fight,
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you know, I know, yeah, And I wonder I wonder if that's
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it. You know, they like
WWE don't want anything else then you being
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the WWE superstar. You know what
I wonder about that though, is I
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wonder if two years ago that wouldn't
have been the case. Though, I
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just feel like there's the stigma's coming
back to this topic. Man, the
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more drags on and grush doesn't come
out with you know, the real goods,
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and these guys don't really kind of
prove anything, and nothing really gets
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through with these these u A p
das and all this stuff, man,
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I just feel like every time they
take an L the stigma just goes,
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Hey, I'm coming back where.
You know. Imagine if that that U
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A p DA would have got passed
and they would have been really digging,
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you know, would would that have
changed things? I don't know, it's
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weird to see it, and you
I was thinking the other day and it
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was only because we were doing an
I was supposed to be playing a gig
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last night and we were trying to
punt some last minute tickets out before the
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whole thing went fucking pair shaped.
They changed the rules of the gig and
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it was going to be like we
were going to move to like an under
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eight teens thing as well, so
we could try and try and sell some
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ticket to kids. And I don't
know, it was probably just because because
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world's collided and stuff like that,
and I started thinking about doing this show,
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and it certainly made me realize that
we all kind of speak to either
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people our own age or a bit
older in this I'd like to know,
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and I'm not. I'm nowhere near
like connected enough with anybody that speaks to
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like teenagers and stuff like that.
My kid's too too young for me to
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get a window into that. I
wonder what teens are thinking, you're like
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that sort of teens like adolescents,
because this stuff's filtering down and I wonder
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if it's just not for us,
you know, that's like where where he
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going? No? We want this, we want that? Is this a
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setup so that when like Nathan that's
currently at school now it's thirteen, when
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he's like twenty twenty five, that's
when this is going to come out and
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slowly this is going to build up. And like if you speak to I
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wonder what the what the percentage of
teenagers are if you walk up to them
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and ask them about this, like
do you know about the congressional hearings?
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You know about who David Grush is? Do you believe in aliens? I
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wonder what the responsors would be because
if all of them go, oh,
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yeah, like we don't know.
I don't know who Grush is, but
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I know they were talking about it
in like the American Court or something like
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that, and I know they said
that they had bodies and craft, then
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that means we are a set where
like cannon fodder for the sye up when
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not the intended target. That was
almost like the creating the next the next
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UFO Twitter well kind of kind of. But the thing is that the that's
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always been the minority. Though.
What my thing is here? Remember how
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I've always joked that one day we'll
be the conspiracy theorists because we don't believe
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in aliens. That's how you do
it. It's a good point. It's
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a very good point. And you
see, it's got me thinking about my
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kids. What they're going to be
like with this. Am I just going
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to be the crazy dad that's talking
nonsense and yes, no, no,
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it's fine, just stop. Yes, yeah, But I'm wondering if they
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will have their mates at school,
like I'm hoping I'll try and keep this
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so they don't tell people what I'm
doing at school because I don't know what
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I'm getting picked on or whatever with
the crazy UFO dad. But I'm wondering
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if it's just got me thinking what
you've just said there, If if the
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the youngsters when they get older,
are broad up to believe in this in
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a certain way, and then there's
us speaking against this, is it going
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to be Could it even get a
little bit almost like what's going on in
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the world right now, Could it
get more serious than it is putting making
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UFO sound to be serious. Well
it should be if it's really if it's
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really like the most serious subject in
the world. Absolutely, yeah, And
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I'm wondering if when they're older it
will be a very serious subject. But
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we'll be going against the grain to
what everybody else is saying. So then
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the question you have to ask yourself
is because like this is the thing,
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like the regardless of what's going on, something's going on. And when I
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mean I mean something, I mean
the fact that it's even been allowed to
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get this far right. The I
think it's hilarious when people on UFO Twitter
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pretend that having like a congressional hearing
where they start talking about non human biologics
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and going, yeah, well nothing
happened. It was ridiculous. You go,
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what what what? What fucking planet? You are so right, regardless
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of whether you think what they were
saying was right or not, let's not
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pretend that this isn't fucking wild.
It was crazy. Yeah, it was
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crazy, and you have people just
like passing it up, gone, yeah,
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no it didn't mean anything, that
didn't mean anything, like fuck you
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what. So when you like when
you sit there in front of fifteen people
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on a Friday night talking on a
YouTube channel. You mean something, you
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mean something, but yet the congressional
hearing doesn't mean anything. That doesn't make
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sense to me. It was on
present and dude, it's still yeah,
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of course it was. And the
amount of people that came out and say,
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oh yeah and nothing happened, and
they're like, well, none him
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biologics and with a straight face,
and no one laughed, you know,
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and people were asking questions and they
were engaged. Yeah, for sure,
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for sure. The event itself was
was Yeah, it was. It was
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interesting. So right, so let's
say even if that's bullshit, right,
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even if it's bullshit what they're saying, then there's still a reason for the
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bullshit. Yeah, And that's so
that's what gets me with this is either
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way real or not, it's still
interesting. And like you're saying, there,
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Oli, does this mean in a
few years time this is going to
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become a serious subject? And then
I'd ask why the foundations are being laid,
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why the foundation's being laid to make
it a serious subject now, Because
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if it was a serious subject and
it was on the level, they would
408
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:58.640
just come out now and make it
a serious subject, not put the foundations
409
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in for future generation. I wonder, because Joe Rogan has just had Tuck
410
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:15.440
her on Joe Rogan's good friends with
Corbell, I would like Joe to turn
411
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:22.680
around to cut Corbell and say,
what do you make of everything that Tuckers
412
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:31.559
saying about the UFO phenomena when he
says it's more spiritual? I wonder if
413
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:37.440
Corbell would go against that. I
think he probably would. I think I
414
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think if I think he's I don't
know whether it's genuine or not, and
415
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:50.599
maybe it's maybe it's a part of
it is like anybody that gets traction in
416
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.680
something, It doesn't matter whether you're
like a mountain bike rider that's doing well,
417
00:33:54.000 --> 00:34:00.039
or you're a fisherman or you play
chess. If you get yourself in
418
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:04.400
to something into a click and you're
doing really well well well, especially like
419
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:09.119
on a professional level, that becomes
important and it's like you know, I
420
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:15.920
know, I know netball players for
instance, that play for like not on
421
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:22.159
national sides now, and I like
the work she puts in is fucking incredible,
422
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:28.480
and like she's a legit fucking not
not professional semi professional sport athlete,
423
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:35.559
like physically like a like a world
class athlete level, but like nobody gives
424
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:39.840
a shit about fucking netball outside netballers. So that in that's the case that
425
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:45.840
you might get with Corbell, is
that he is in. He is in
426
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:55.679
with zeta articulate probably fucking alien abductions, crashes in Roswell triangles, in military
427
00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:02.960
hangers. So if if, if
your if that becomes your bit, then
428
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.599
of course with Tucker comes out and
says, yeah, it's fucking biblical.
429
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:14.519
That's probably gonna rock. That's gonna
rock the foundations of what you do too
430
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.559
much to take in. So what
do you think? Do you do you
431
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:21.199
think he pushes back or do you
think he transitions? And if he transitions,
432
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.159
how does he do that? I
think he pushes back. I think
433
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:30.119
he pushes back and sticks course with
the with the machinery. I would like
434
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.480
to see that conversation. I would
like to see somebody like Corbell on with
435
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.400
Tucker. I think he could have
a round table. Certainly, you know,
436
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:45.480
if you if you were to do
a like a big Rogan episode with
437
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:52.519
Corbell with and maybe keep maybe keep
the whistleblowers out as well, like and
438
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:58.519
just so it's just like the commentators
you know, you could have a Coubell,
439
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:06.840
you could have a Callson. Who
else could we have? Get this
440
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.800
Billy Causon in as well? Because
his his show took it with a road.
441
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.159
You gotta put Greer in. You
gotta put Greer in there too.
442
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:22.519
Yeah, we got to put Greer
in. Yeah, do we put of
443
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.199
course you'd put Time in there?
Absolutely, Yeah, wouldn't you? Just
444
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:36.039
Linda malt and how off? Yeah, we'll say with next we'll sit Linden
445
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.559
next to that bigelow. We'll stick
a bigelow in the put Lazara on there.
446
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.599
I mean, if you're just throwing
people on it, why not?
447
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:45.559
You know, it would be interesting
to hear all those guys kind of go
448
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.719
back and forth. For sure.
I don't know why they don't. You
449
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.800
know, if you know, if
they're only in it for the money,
450
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.079
you know they're they they're leaving a
big money opportunity on the table, right,
451
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.800
I mean, who wouldn't like sign
up to watch that? Who wouldn't
452
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.239
drop fifty bucks on a Saturday night
and watch career in? Alexondo and Tucker
453
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:07.400
and Corbell, all these guys phones
in there too. They're turning their hearts
454
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:13.719
off they're lying on it right now. He's losing Infos, isn't he He's
455
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.280
gonna they're being forced to liquidate.
That's what I heard. I don't know
456
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.280
if that's true, is it?
I think so? Yeah, I have
457
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:27.199
no head advice. Yeah, he's
being forced to liquidate Infos to pay the
458
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.280
the skill which he'll not be named. Faye help me, Joe Rogan,
459
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:37.719
I was so much money, you
know. But I mean to kind of
460
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.400
touch back on Tucker. The one
thing I found was interesting on that Sean
461
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.840
Ryan show is how he's saying that
he's he's kind of out, you know,
462
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.360
he doesn't really want to touch it
any further, and it kind of
463
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.000
gets a little bit too tough for
him, and which I thought was weird
464
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.440
because anyone that would fly over to
Russia like that and put them and put
465
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.679
their lives on the line to talk
to putin that way, that's you got
466
00:37:54.679 --> 00:38:00.639
some balls, man. What Why
is talking about supernatural at all? Why
467
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:02.480
is that's too much for you?
Why is that the line? I'm going
468
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:08.119
to talk for Dave here because and
we've seen it with people. I think
469
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:16.039
in this, like in the field, I think there is an element that
470
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:22.599
unless you unless you ground yourself well, and I think it helps if you
471
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:25.920
do this amongst people as well,
you're not fucking yolo and it off on
472
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:37.199
your own. I think the subject
itself damages people. I don't think it's
473
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.719
an accent. I don't think it's
an accent that you see so many of
474
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:46.639
these people, which are single people
that do this, like go off the
475
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:52.559
rails. I'm sure we could sit
here and reel off fucking six or seven
476
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:57.159
of them. I was just gonna
say, I'm sure we could rattle off
477
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:04.800
five that have been on this show. I think the topic itself, this
478
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.719
is one of the reasons why I'm
much more inclined to think there it's something
479
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:13.119
of a See I'm going to say
spiritual, and I don't even necessarily know
480
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:17.000
if I mean religious when I'm saying
spiritual. I think supernatural is probably the
481
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.840
better way for me to put it. But yeah, I think it affects
482
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:32.840
people. And I think if if
what I think Tucker has been told,
483
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.320
if what Tuck has been told is
what I think Tuck has been told,
484
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:45.320
then I think too engross yourself into
that. In that more, there is
485
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:50.599
definitely an aspect of if you look
into the abyss too longly, Abyss stairs
486
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.360
back. Well, it's kind of
what we talked about last week too.
487
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:59.440
I mean the realization that your religion
could be very real, you know,
488
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.360
and these be a very real and
depending on what AI tells you how how
489
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:06.519
angels could look, that could be
very unsettling, you know. So it's
490
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.920
just kind of that understanding that it's
a reality and that your sin could matter,
491
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.440
and that it could be an afterlife
where you're burning, dude, And
492
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.280
that's a that's a real tough pill
to swallow for a lot of people.
493
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.760
If that was really real, I
think that that would change it. Yeah,
494
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.199
you know it would. It would
kind of shake people at their core
495
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:23.639
to think, Man, if I
really, if I do this, I
496
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:28.719
might be the rest of eternity,
you know, get my feet chopped off
497
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:30.719
or something in front of me,
and there's great. I mean, whatever
498
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.599
crazy thing you want to kind of
make a hell out to be whatever your
499
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.800
hell would be painful thing that they'll
put you through. Yeah, it would
500
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.559
shake you up for sure. But
do you think he really is getting to
501
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:44.400
that to that level? It's where
he like what I mean by that level
502
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:49.880
is like of information that's believable,
like is it that valid the information he's
503
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.960
get to where he's really taking it
to heart, that that's true, that
504
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.400
this is really a spiritual thing.
That's that's at least at least part of
505
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.000
it, right, because we we
still see these crafts. We still wonder
506
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:04.880
what these crafts saw. I mean
I don't right, right, But which
507
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.199
is kind of like a good idea
of Like I don't think angels and demons
508
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.480
would need a craft, So the
phenomenon is probably still multifaceted, right,
509
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:15.440
There's probably still more to it than
just one side. But yeah, but
510
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.960
what do you think about that?
Well, when you think about the idea
511
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:24.679
of craft because I had that opinion
for ages, like why would like angels
512
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:30.320
and demons need technology? And then
it's I started to think, well,
513
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:34.960
hang on, if we're if we're
dealing with these things that were kind of
514
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:42.119
dimensional level, then why why wouldn't
they need technology in the dimension that they
515
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.079
happen to be in? Even if
it could even be a case that if
516
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:51.800
these things are interacting with us,
like in our base reality, they might
517
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:57.719
need technology in order to just be
here. If you've got like fourth fifth
518
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:05.039
dimensional create a creatures that want to
interfere like interfere with us in a three
519
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:12.559
dimensional reality, They're probably going to
need something else. Yeah, it would
520
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:16.480
be the same way as a cartoon
interacting with a three D video game,
521
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:21.679
wouldn't it. Like in order for
that cartoon to interact the three D video
522
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.960
game, you can need to find
yourself a third fucking dimension. Well,
523
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:28.880
I just think that, Oh go
ahead, Ali, Yeah, no,
524
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.679
no, no no, I was
just gonna say I for me though,
525
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.280
I think that angels demons, I
mean, if there was a spiritual side
526
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.960
to this, I think that's one
area of interdimensionality, if that's a word
527
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.000
you want to put out there for
it. But I still think that there
528
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:43.280
could be some other beings that are
more grounded the way that we are,
529
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.280
that have found a way to manipulate
time and come through here. And that
530
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.800
doesn't mean that they're from a planet. It just means that they've been able
531
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:51.760
to Maybe they're around us and they're
able to kind of cross over. They
532
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.559
would still need some kind of medium
to move through, some kind of machine
533
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:59.800
or something that would interact with the
environment to get them through. I think
534
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:02.599
you could have multiple versions of interdimensional
beings. I guess that's kind of what
535
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.239
I'm getting at you know what I
mean. I suppose the question is,
536
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:15.320
now, if if I could,
if I could ask took a class on
537
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:22.239
one thing, obviously it would be
I want to know what you're fucking hinted
538
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:28.480
at, not like less like innuendo
and stuff. Tell me. And I
539
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:34.119
would preface it by saying, if
you have information that's made you think this,
540
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.599
then you probably kind of owe it
to people not to hint it and
541
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:44.559
to say it. Do you think
he is going to like? I mean,
542
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.760
he has to, and I know
that that it's said on his show
543
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.599
that he's kind of going back and
forth, he's all over the place with
544
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:58.199
it. Well, I think that
that's why, and that's why I wanted
545
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.480
to get him on today because I
I think he had the wrong end of
546
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:06.039
the stick with it, and speaking
to him on Twitter, he he said,
547
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:07.800
yeah, you think I've got the
wrong I have the wrong end of
548
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:15.239
the stick with it, And apparently
so does the rest of the internet because
549
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:22.519
he he read that as he he
thought Tucker was trying to say that the
550
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:30.440
US government were like in contact and
working with God, Whereas I think what
551
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:36.000
Tucker was trying to say is is
that the UFOs are demonic force, and
552
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:44.800
there are elements within the government that
are like because I think this goes beyond
553
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.159
UFOs, you see. I mean, I'm a firm believer that it's like
554
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:55.400
Tim Foyle hat time, that all
our world governments have been infiltrated by an
555
00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:00.400
ancient religion. You know, you
can call it colors like you can call
556
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.400
them cabalysts, you can call it
the illuminatus, you can call them Satanists.
557
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.599
I think it all, It all
kind of points back to the same
558
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:15.039
thing. I think the UFO phenomena
is heavily involved with that. I think
559
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.960
lots of the stuff we're doing at
places like Sir, where we're trying to
560
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:25.800
rip rip holes and pull the veil
back, is to facilitate it. Bit
561
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:37.199
sciencely, it's fine, but yeah, I and I think that's what he's
562
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:45.440
been told. And at that point, because it doesn't seem to be a
563
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:53.679
earthly element pushing back at these people, that's what gets me, Joe,
564
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.320
you know what I mean? Yeah, I do. I always kind of
565
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.679
wonder, though, you know,
when we think about some supernatural or some
566
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.800
kind of entity wherever it comes from, what have you dealing with working with
567
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:08.440
our government or influencing. Why do
we always jump to the malevolent side of
568
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:12.280
it. I mean, wouldn't there
wouldn't it make sense that there's also a
569
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:16.199
malevolent side or a benevolent side that
that's also maybe trying to get influence,
570
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:21.280
and you maybe have a spiritual kind
of war going on in that. I
571
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.840
mean, do you think it is
like a back and forth? The only
572
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:29.800
the only thing I would say there
is maybe the malevolent side of that is
573
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.440
people just getting on with life and
trying to have families. You know,
574
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:42.960
that's the you You rarely go to
war for peace. I know that's probably
575
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:52.000
hasn't worked well these days. But
maybe it's just the fact that that side
576
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.519
of it is the aggressor, that
is that that's the nature of the other
577
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:59.679
side. The nature of the other
side is to be the aggressor, where
578
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:07.679
the good side is kind of just
like a natural balance rather than a like
579
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:12.880
a protecting force. Yeah. Alex
Shoans had an interesting thing that he said,
580
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:14.480
I can't remember how long ago,
but he said, you know,
581
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.840
there there's there's things out there like
demons that you can bring them in,
582
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:20.599
you can come to contact with them, and then there's you know, these
583
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:22.960
these good things that are out there
that you can talk to and then sometimes
584
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.480
they listen, but they kind of
don't. So it's interesting that you say
585
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:28.639
that, because that's kind of an
interesting take I thought he had on when
586
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:30.159
Lown you look at that light and
dark side, is that the dark side
587
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:35.719
seems to be so much more active
and just more more interested in aggressively putting
588
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.360
itself in your face or having some
kind of manipulation over you, or the
589
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:42.199
other side seems to kind of just
hang out, you know, maybe every
590
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.039
once in a while come down and
perform a miracle and then bail out.
591
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:51.679
You know. That's interesting. Well, that's the I suppose the there's an
592
00:47:51.800 --> 00:48:00.480
arrogance in thinking, in thinking that
there's a good side wanting to come back
593
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:08.400
to help us, because the like
the malevolent side makes sense, Like the
594
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:13.400
the malevolent side is if you if
you go for the idea that these things
595
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:20.639
like want the the experiences of the
flesh, then they want to come back.
596
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.280
They like there. I sometimes I
wonder whether there is a like a
597
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:30.800
spiritual immune system. So it's you
know, it's weird, constantly interesting.
598
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.079
Well, the the idea that we're
constantly under attack, you know, like
599
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.840
the I only found out the other
day that people like get get cancer like
600
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:45.159
multiple times through their lifetimes, and
it's just that your your immune system manages
601
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:51.239
to just knock that off and we'll
we'll, we'll fucking we'll park that battle
602
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:55.679
for a little bit. And I
wonder if that's like this with like spiritual
603
00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:00.840
possession or and not as in like
possession that we see in the Exorcist,
604
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:07.719
but the influence from these things like
the because it's I mean, if you
605
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:16.280
look at the I think mass shootings
are a a really good example of this.
606
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:21.519
The fact if you if you look
at those people, nine times out
607
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:27.519
of ten they're going to be antidepressants. They're already in a weakened state when
608
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:31.760
this, when this happens. So
if we go down the road of these
609
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:39.639
things, aren't the aren't the actions
of somebody that's just had enough. They're
610
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:43.679
the actions of somebody that's already been
in a weakened state and then been took
611
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:50.039
over essentially and influenced into doing these
things for influence. Yeah, it wasn't.
612
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.440
On the on the last podcast when
we had sewn on, I was
613
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:59.239
talking about the what they called the
interests of thoughts, you know, like
614
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:07.440
we all have. I might might
have shared too much about myself. Said
615
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:08.559
you said you were to chuck some
in front of the car. I think
616
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.119
something like that. Yeah, if
that makes you feel better, somebody,
617
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:22.159
just somebody, not you. But
but yeah, I think about that a
618
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:27.679
lot. And that's that makes me
come back to the Twinkle Twinkle your Little
619
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:36.159
Star. Yeah, like people in
the topic that seem to hit bottom,
620
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:44.440
and I just wonder whether pushing yourself
so much into these things. And it's
621
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:46.880
like I say, it seems to
be people when they're on their own and
622
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:53.079
they let it consume them and then
it destroys them. Yeah. I thought
623
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:57.400
it was interesting too, how he
talked about Tucker did on on the Sean
624
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.480
Ryan Show. We was mentioning that, you know, you look at natural
625
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.519
just beings. I mean you look
at nature, Nature's natural and they you
626
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.400
know, you don't have nature really
unliving itself for the back of a lot
627
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.760
of black of a better word put
in. But humans tend to do that
628
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.960
and so that's almost like a supernatural
act. That was crazy when I I
629
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:17.639
was thinking, Man, I've never
thought of it that way. You know,
630
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:22.280
he's thinking it's wrong though, what
oh you think it is? Yeah,
631
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:29.880
like lemons throw themselves off things,
Salmon like salmon literally rubbed themselves on
632
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:36.000
a rock, come and die,
like certain certain types of spiders will go
633
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.960
in to have sex with their mate
knowing they're going to get fucking munched after
634
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:44.719
it. I mean, I guess, but I feel like it's just they're
635
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:50.800
doing that for a purpose, though
there's an actual intention to maybe progressing maybe
636
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:52.800
whatever their species is. However,
you know, typically when we do it,
637
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:57.679
it's because it's over. You know, there's not really there's not really
638
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:01.800
much progression in that. For humans, it's kind of opposite. Yeah,
639
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:05.719
that's fair. Yeah, that's the
way. You know. We wouldn't have
640
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.079
to unalive ourselves to have a child, you know what I mean, even
641
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.840
though it happens sometimes sometimes mothers will
say, hey, you know, look
642
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.480
at the doctors that you probably don't
have a good chance to live. But
643
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.079
I don't. But I wouldn't even
consider that unlive in yourself. Diet it's
644
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:22.199
different. It's it's weird, right, it's different, but it is weird.
645
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:29.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
touching. It's strange. But yeah,
646
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:31.960
I mean, I that's the other
thing. I mean, there's there's
647
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:36.119
so much i'd like to talk to
I'd like to say here, which you
648
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.159
can't say on YouTube. Yeah.
But the thing is, one of the
649
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:46.960
reasons I started believing in God is
because I started being able to see the
650
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:53.880
devil places and I was much more
conscious of that before. That made me
651
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:58.119
realize, right, Okay, if
I can see that, then I probably
652
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:01.960
need to pick a team here,
and I think you can see it.
653
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:10.840
I don't know if anyone saw the
the like the clip from repost drag Race
654
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:17.239
that's been gone, that's gone viral
and like it was a I find some
655
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:22.400
of that that stuff like wild,
So if people can hear stuff, I'm
656
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:27.000
not doing this post podcast from Gaza. It's like the last day of t
657
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:31.119
T and there's five works play outside
and I'm just saying I was trying to
658
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:35.559
follow you for a second. I
was like, where's he going? Here
659
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:37.800
is? I'm like, where are
we at? Okay, I got you,
660
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:47.280
I got you, but I've thrown
myself now thrown myself. No,
661
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:53.519
it's gone. What's your same said
something about drag race or something. Yeah,
662
00:53:53.599 --> 00:54:00.159
yeah, I find I find lots
of the Yeah. I find that's
663
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:04.199
probably going to get some viewership.
It probably is either the child shut down.
664
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:07.880
Can you imagine if we had Tim
dillanar right at that moment, he
665
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:10.800
would just go wild. Huh.
I'd love to get Tim Dillon show.
666
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.480
Dude, talk about somebody I want
to talk to. Oh my god,
667
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:19.800
he's just want to share old sales
stories with him, just talk about sales.
668
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:27.280
But he's he is the best of
like the truth tellers because he's he'll
669
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:34.280
just be hilarious for an hour and
then drop fifteen minutes of pure, unadulterated
670
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:38.320
facts of how the world's working and
then do a dick joke at the end
671
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:44.119
of it. It's great. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, nor the
672
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:49.679
report drag race thing. I think
there's a I think lots of the way
673
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:58.519
this is like permeated cultures, permeated
culture in a unnatural way, from the
674
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.039
way that drag has a was being
that sort of you know, it's it's
675
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.719
took on a new dimension. Drag
used to be something people did. Now
676
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.840
it's become like an identity. It's
it's weird. It's like, all of
677
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.400
a sudden, it's like football becoming
an identity for people. You know,
678
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.199
It's not like I'm not you don't
just play football. You become football,
679
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:22.480
like I'm I do football. And
one of the outfits one of the contestants
680
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:29.400
had was they had like two false
arms and as they were walking down the
681
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:32.039
too false so they had like blood
coming out of their chest and it was
682
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:40.159
the two false arms were giving them
a mass ectomy. It's wild, fucking
683
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:45.039
insane. I don't need dinner anymore. We're good, No, I like,
684
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.199
you look, you look at that, and you go, I'm not
685
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.679
sure whether this is Saturday evening television, oh, whether this is Silent Hill
686
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:59.639
and like this is it's That's that's
what I mean when I see this stuff.
687
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:06.000
I don't think it's necessarily even the
people's people involved in its fault.
688
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.320
I think there is the there's something
else. There's something else controlling this ship,
689
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:15.079
and I don't fucking know what it
is. I was just to say,
690
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:21.360
it's like when you get these celebrities
that are on every single magazine,
691
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.360
we're covering their eye. And I
think it was Dave that said something like
692
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:30.159
he said, they probably don't even
know they're doing it. They probably they
693
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:35.320
probably don't even know. They're not
a part of anything. But whoever is
694
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:40.199
wanting this these photographs to be done
in this way it's being told by somebody
695
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:45.760
else. We need we need an
we need an eye covered up on this
696
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:51.159
this magazine. You know, maybe
well for it if if we get that,
697
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:53.400
you know, I feel they do
know. I feel they do know,
698
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:59.000
and I feel it's there's an and
if some of them are trying to
699
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:07.159
get in that, I'm there because
I know people that have been involved in
700
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.639
the music industry that aren't sort of
doing well, you know, like they're
701
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:15.239
not there. They're signed to sort
of mid level labels and stuff like that.
702
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:17.719
They've got interest from bigger labels,
and they'll do that those sort of
703
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:22.760
photo shoots. Nobody's asking them to
do there. But we all kind of
704
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.400
know what that means. And it's
maybe you don't even want one hundred percent
705
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:29.320
believe in that yourself, but you
think, well, maybe if it's just
706
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:31.159
out there, I just want people
to know that, I'll play ball,
707
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:38.199
I'll cover an eyeball up. Yeah, maybe we should do that every so
708
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:46.000
often. You know, I just
might get more traction. We might get
709
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:52.000
more traction. We might lose our
soul, but we might get a few
710
00:57:52.039 --> 00:58:01.960
more views. Soul's views how many
views were talking about exactly. Here's the
711
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:08.159
thing, though, like if if
Tucker is been has been told this,
712
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:15.719
who's told him it? Because he
hasn't dropped any names. We've seen the
713
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:25.920
people who he's interviewed mentioned a lot
of dinners. Well that's so, that's
714
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:29.760
what he said. He kept dropping
that didn't he said? You know,
715
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:34.480
I speak to people. I speak
to a lot of people. See.
716
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:44.039
I don't believe that he seems so
like adamant that he understands what's going on.
717
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.639
I know it's when when he's etud, I remember exactly what he said,
718
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:51.400
No, I think I've got a
good I think I've got a good
719
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:59.719
idea what's going on. And he
seemed so sure. And that's one of
720
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:02.280
the reason why I don't think he's
bullshitting like there was there was. There
721
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:07.039
was a change in his tone when
he said that through that was that wasn't
722
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:13.360
there through the whole interview. I
don't believe you get that, especially a
723
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.360
guy like Tucker. I don't believe
you get that from just one person saying
724
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:22.280
it. I think you get that
because you've been told the same thing by
725
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:29.000
a bunch of people. I actually
saw, Oh fuck, who was the
726
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:32.679
guy's name? He was like he
was a big commentator, like a big
727
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:38.159
political commentator, and he brought up
the Tucker Cars something and he posted,
728
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:46.960
it wasn't like that map guy,
I've forgot a surname now, but it
729
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:51.400
was it was somebody. Whoever it
was, doesn't matter, just will go.
730
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:55.559
Let's go with the fact that it
was somebody that is connected. And
731
00:59:55.840 --> 01:00:05.880
he said he believed it was Alexander
or Grush that Tucker had been speaking to,
732
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:10.440
but he's since been informed by people
that it was actually Trump that was
733
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:15.239
the one that had a word in. Took a Carson to hear about it.
734
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:23.920
That would be interesting if it was
Trump that told him this. Yeah,
735
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:30.840
Trump feeling throttened about the whole topic. I don't know. Yeah,
736
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:35.280
I'll send Recca. I will email
you. I was thinking about you like
737
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:42.840
today in the shower and I will
be we will. He would rather rather
738
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.480
you not think about him at all
than to think about him in the shower.
739
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:47.119
Just forget him at that. I
do some of my best thinking in
740
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:52.920
the shower. The Yeah, I'll
give you an email and we'll sort something.
741
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.199
Because remember you saying the other day
about coming back on and yeah,
742
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.599
I think it'd be good. What
what hell are you thinking within that shower
743
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:09.320
go follow American vindict to show people
all three of them. Yeah, I
744
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:14.480
don't. You've heard Trump speak about
it, though, but he's been very
745
01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:19.360
brief with it. He's always like, I've got better things to talk about,
746
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.119
like China or whatever. A lot
of interesting things. You hear about
747
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:28.920
a lot of interesting things. Yeah, you know, he does. He's
748
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.039
never really touched on it, not
really, not in any detail that would
749
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:36.400
like. But he pushed the ball
down the field. Yah. You think
750
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.480
there's the after conversation there, you
know, like the MIC's gone off with
751
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:45.760
with Tucker and Trump and he's gone, don come on, let us know
752
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:52.400
what's going on, what's going on
with the UFOs. Yeah, he's not
753
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:54.760
the kind of guy that wouldn't talk
behind the scenes that he loves the talk.
754
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:59.079
And I think I can't remember the
judge that just came out there was
755
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:00.039
talking about him saying, hey,
you know, when we get behind the
756
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:04.719
scenes, when there's not fifteen people
on the other line or on the line
757
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.920
with us, you know, I'll
tell you what happened with the JFK situation.
758
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.440
You know. I think I think
that's true story. I think Trump
759
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:14.920
would behind the scenes tell him what
happened with JFK and spill the beans for
760
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.519
sure. He seems like that kind
of guy to me at least. M
761
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:23.920
Yeah, what about the UFO thing? What do you think he does?
762
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:30.840
Is? Do you think Trump knows? If you have to tell the president
763
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:32.840
at all? He probably knows the
bare minimum. I don't know if they
764
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:37.599
trust him enough because he talks and
you never know where he could go off
765
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:39.880
the handle and say whatever he wants
when he will, maybe, but it
766
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:44.880
would it would probably be very bare
minimum. I don't think that they'd really
767
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:46.400
open up the files to him.
I just don't think so. Man,
768
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:51.800
they'd be too worried about it.
He does his own thing. You know.
769
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:58.360
Do you think any of them has
known any of the presidents? Maybe
770
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:04.400
early ones hour, you know,
maybe the earlier ones. I don't think
771
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:07.239
it very much going forward from that, probably not. Maybe Obama. I
772
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.400
don't know that he's been talking a
little bit. But who knows really what
773
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.159
they're telling him that the phenomena is
or what we have for UFOs. Who
774
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:16.800
knows, like if they're telling them
the real story and they're not just kind
775
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:19.880
of spinning it, you know,
saying hey, look, you know there
776
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.639
is some weird stuff, but it's
our attack, you know, and it's
777
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:25.079
national security. We don't want to
talk about it. So when you get
778
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:29.239
asked about it, you know,
be mysterious about it because we really don't
779
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:31.800
want to tip our hand to our
adversaries. It could be that they don't
780
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:36.400
ever come out enough. Right If
Obama sits there on TV and says,
781
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:37.679
well, there's stuff in our sky, we don't understand it. We don't
782
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:42.119
know what's that really mean. Does
that mean it's aliens? Does that mean
783
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:45.360
it's the phenomena? No, he
could mean there's Russia's got some stuff that
784
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:49.039
we don't know about. See,
it's all about how you your perception.
785
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:52.760
It's all about how you take what
he's saying, you know, and you
786
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:54.880
make of it what you will.
What if the whole disclosure thing, the
787
01:03:54.920 --> 01:04:01.599
reason why they say it's so dangerous
in it and it would scare people so
788
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:10.280
much, is because it would full
it would fuck with religion completely, as
789
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:15.039
in it is it is religious,
what's going on, It would fuck with
790
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:17.920
religion. But the difference is it
would fuck with the current religion, and
791
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:24.239
the current religion is consumerism. Yes, that's that would be the real problem
792
01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:31.519
because people with people would suddenly realize
I like Matt said before the if people
793
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:36.159
all of a sudden realized there was
actually like issues with what their actions are,
794
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:40.519
there was going to be ramifications for
the things that they choose to do.
795
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:45.239
You fucked like what happened to Yolo. We like, we all we
796
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:50.239
all discussed Yolo and we agreed you
only live once, you know, And
797
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:55.800
it's This is one of the things
I think is why these things are permeated
798
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.719
like society or this is one of
the one of the things I think this
799
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:05.440
st has permeated society with is the
live for today aspect. You know,
800
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:12.679
it's like just live your best sell
live your best life. And when you
801
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:17.719
break all that shit down, that's
fucking crowleyism. That's do what thou wilt.
802
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:23.159
Yeah, the credit card companies love
it, right, spend the money
803
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.800
on the big trip. You only
live once, you know, that's it.
804
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.800
Yeah, you got student loan that
up to your ears, but you
805
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:35.559
only live once. America Cross discover
card. It's their banner wreckers, said
806
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:44.599
presidents. Temporary employees. They know
more about war and geopolitics issues than research
807
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:49.400
and development. Congress doesn't have access
to the stuff either. They aren't ready,
808
01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:55.719
And I think that's yeah, it's
I think so much of this stuff
809
01:05:55.840 --> 01:06:04.519
probably goes on in private industry.
Yeah, yeah, Congress is definitely not
810
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:06.559
right. I mean, that's what
they're trying to they're trying to get right
811
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:09.599
now, they're trying to get the
information. They're trying to get the Select
812
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:13.800
Committee made so they can subpoena people
and and and get into more skiffs and
813
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:16.480
kind of put arrow through the grinder
and figure out what's going on. Yeah,
814
01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:19.000
for sure, they definitely don't know. It's wild, isn't it that
815
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:24.039
your elective officials don't know anything about
the non human biologics, regardless of how
816
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:34.719
fit she was. Like, if
something has gone off though in the past,
817
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:45.639
and there's been well, let's say
a visitation that was spiritual and people
818
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:56.159
have depicted it as aliens in UFOs, surely at some point it's going to
819
01:06:56.320 --> 01:07:02.639
leak out to too many people for
it to become anything but the truth.
820
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:08.000
That's what that's and I think that's
what happened in the past. But I
821
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:12.760
think now in the modern era,
we've we've kind of realized, well we
822
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:21.400
haven't they have whoever they are.
We need to calm these humans down.
823
01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:29.599
You know, they can't see this
because we will lose all control. That
824
01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:32.800
they knew what it was in the
past, and it's caused uproar. You
825
01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:40.639
know, there's the depictions of angels
of demons, and you see the pictures
826
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:44.599
of demons sat on people's chests,
and people said that, well, that's
827
01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:51.159
actually abduction. They talk about the
way buildings have been built and how Nephlin
828
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:54.880
came down they made them. But
no, they didn't do it. The
829
01:07:54.920 --> 01:08:01.599
aliens did it. I think we
had an understanding probably years ago, and
830
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:05.800
we've lost that understanding. Now it's
gone. We kept we're not allowed to
831
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:12.760
know. I don't know you guys
thinking about that. I think we I
832
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:17.600
think we probably knew more, say
two hundred years ago about what this thing
833
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:26.560
is to what we to now.
It's it's fairly undeniable that we had at
834
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:31.840
some point in the past, be
it recent past, like is it more
835
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:38.399
recent than we're told it is,
or ancient past, as in much further
836
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:44.239
back than we think than we've been
told it is. It's fairly undeniable that
837
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:48.960
we definitely had some sort of knowledge
and some sort of understanding of things that
838
01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:57.159
we have no idea about. Today, And I can't help wonder whether it
839
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:04.159
was because as a people we'd work
the technology out which was much more in
840
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:10.439
sync with like the natural order of
things. That's why we were able to
841
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:15.159
build these like megalithic stone things.
And you know it's like with without power
842
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:19.720
tools and without like computers and stuff, because there was there wasn't a lot
843
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:23.279
of junk left behind. You know, we've got we've got a lot of
844
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:27.279
big buildings. We haven't looked.
They didn't leave leave they didn't leave the
845
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:36.800
landfills behind with what they were doing. The the question I'd have there is
846
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:47.479
is if at some point are like
natural balance has been disturbed and we've entered
847
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:54.880
this kind of like into like what
what would turn into an industry? Does
848
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:59.640
that mean there was some sort of
like palace coup at some point where we've
849
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:04.119
we've been shifted, like shifted off
the tracks. It's that's led us,
850
01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:09.279
led us down this road. And
you can one hundred percent go down the
851
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:15.760
spiritual road with that is if you
know the where did the right where did
852
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:18.840
this ship come from? Where did
technology come from? We've we've been told
853
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:24.000
for years and years and years that
like we we got we came out of
854
01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:28.439
caves, went fuck really hungry.
If we are really hungry and cold,
855
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:31.479
if we fucking bash enough of these
rocks together over this dry kindle, we
856
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:35.680
might be able to make fire and
one thing after another. Then a year
857
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:40.479
we invented the wheel. Then with
the wheel came sports cars. I think
858
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:45.000
that was the natural trajectory. Trajectory, and it's been a slow build,
859
01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:51.079
whereas if this losing of technology from
the ancient past, it hasn't been a
860
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:56.560
slow build. There's been a change
somewhere, like a change off course.
861
01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:00.800
Do you feel like we do you
feel like we lost or do you feel
862
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:05.960
that maybe just the toys were changed
out. I'm sorry to cut you off,
863
01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:08.720
and I mean so I thought you
were done there? No, no,
864
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.840
no, no, I don't know. I would I would say would
865
01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:20.840
be changed because if like, let's
let's say we've written records well enough that
866
01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:26.039
we understand, like we we know
we can write on an iPad now,
867
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:29.399
but we know we used to use
pen and ink like a couple of hundred
868
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:35.680
years ago, like in a like
with a fucking duck feather. So I
869
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:40.279
think there'd be some sort of knowledge
of what we've lost. What would change
870
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:44.119
I do. I do think there's
a there's a loss of something and a
871
01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:48.720
change to a different system. And
again this is this is some of the
872
01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:54.880
stuff that definitely turns like some of
the UFO people off. But the when
873
01:11:54.880 --> 01:12:00.239
you when you listen to people like
what Tesla was saying about how ideas came
874
01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:08.119
to him. I wonder whether we've
been kind of implanted with the technology that
875
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:13.079
we're using today, that it's been
that's been passed down and the I remember
876
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:15.960
in a Rogan episode he's often referred
to human beings as being the sex organs
877
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:25.520
of machines. What if technology was
given to us in order to birth that
878
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:29.279
in the first place. It's not
the fact that we are now. We
879
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:32.119
we were naturally going to create technology
which was going to take over. Like
880
01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:35.800
what if that's when we're looking at
quite quantum computing and AI and stuff like
881
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:42.399
that. What if that's the gate? What if that's the crossover point for
882
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:47.079
these things? What do you mean
it's given them at all? I mean
883
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:51.279
that we're worrying all the technology and
they'll fuck it themselves. No, no,
884
01:12:51.920 --> 01:13:01.119
give give them the technology and they
will create us well as in create
885
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:12.399
the demons we already have or at
least create a conjurit, create a conduit
886
01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:25.159
in which they can they can interact
with us. Mm hmm. I'm just
887
01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:32.239
trying to trying to think how the
problem with that that I have is if
888
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:36.920
and I think it's probably because all
those years that I mean, I was
889
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:43.159
never an atheist, but I probably
struggled to believe in a lot of things.
890
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:49.479
But whatever this thing is, if
it's demons and one have here,
891
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:59.279
do they do do they just do
that through putting thoughts into people's heads and
892
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:01.800
say it's like again, invent this, make this, make this, make
893
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:04.359
this, and then eventually we'll get
It's gonna be a slow build, pick
894
01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:11.319
guys, but eventually they'll get there. Eventually, eventually we'll be we'll be
895
01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:14.720
walking around again. Slow build,
slow build for human beings. Were if
896
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:20.720
you're a never dying, fucking energetic
entity. Oh yeah, no, probably
897
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:30.720
they've probably got all the time in
the world. But I always struggle with
898
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:36.760
it, because I mean, you
should it's mental. If I was,
899
01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:41.399
if I if I finished speaking and
you went, yeah, that makes real
900
01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.880
sense. It's time to take a
holiday. Ali, I've been a little
901
01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:55.640
quiet for a reason. Yeah,
yeah, mhmm. Yeah, I mean,
902
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:58.159
I mean they I think it was
to that actually said he said,
903
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:01.840
when you when you when you die, I'm convinced you'll know exactly what it's
904
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:06.680
all been about. I kind of
agree with him. I can't lie.
905
01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:11.000
I do. I think I think
we'll know more. I don't think we
906
01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:13.319
just hit the black I don't think
we just fade to black man. You
907
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:17.760
know, no, I always I
always thought about that when I was a
908
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:24.000
kid, like nothingness. You know, when you die, you just it's
909
01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:30.560
nothingness. I always try to think
eat the blackness. I always try to
910
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:34.119
think back of it before I was
born, Like what did how did I
911
01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:38.199
feel when when the Civil War was
going on? Like what wait, I
912
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.560
wasn't here, I didn't feel anything. What was that? Like? Try
913
01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:45.399
to experience that, but you can't. It's nothing. And like if if
914
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:46.720
that's what happens when you die,
it's like, well then I mean you're
915
01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:48.840
not even gonna know what's going on
when you die. You're not gonna feel
916
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:53.079
anything. It's over or whatever.
Maybe we shouldn't care as much. But
917
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:59.359
if there's something after, WHOA,
it's different. Yeah, what is after?
918
01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:09.319
Do we just just do we just
do it all over again that's reincarnation
919
01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:16.960
is terrifying to me. Terror that's
reincarnation is almost as terrifying as like the
920
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:25.319
void, like nothingness, the idea
that you could because that's that's limbo essentially
921
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:32.439
to me, reincarnation the idea that
you could like toil and have like sometimes
922
01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:41.800
like I mean, we were we're
all fucking blessed with being like born reasonably
923
01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:48.760
good fucking geographic areas. But the
idea that you could have fucking horrendous lives,
924
01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:58.000
horrendous just to die, to begin
it all again without the knowledge of
925
01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:03.079
your previous terrible life, to try
and put this one right. I think
926
01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:08.520
what's terrifying about reincarnation to me is
realizing that if that's what keeps happening,
927
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:14.640
that the odds are you're gonna end
up experiencing really bad events at some point.
928
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:16.439
All the things that you look at. Man, that guy was walking
929
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:18.680
on the street and got shot with
a shotgun in his chest, you know,
930
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:21.399
and had to lay there and bleed
out. That's a horrible situation.
931
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:24.319
You go, man, lucky,
I'm not that guy. Well, hey,
932
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.319
your next life, you might be
that guy. Yeah, that's scary
933
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:30.439
to me. Oh you mean you
get a chance to live as everybody as
934
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:33.920
everybody else. So all the bad
things that happen other people that got kidnapped
935
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:38.279
and killed and starved, and you
know, your next life, you might
936
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:40.600
be the guy sitting in a hot
shock like that, starving to death.
937
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:43.159
You were kidnapped, all those bad
things. Think about that, man.
938
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:46.399
It's like, we're lucky, you
know, We're so damn lucky man,
939
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:49.319
compared to even those people that are
in with our lives right now. And
940
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:54.159
you don't know what would happen next, what scenario you're going to be dropped
941
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:57.840
into next. That's pretty scary,
dude. At least, the worst thing
942
01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.760
that happened to me today was the
three avocados I bought. None of them
943
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:05.840
were ripe enough to eat immediately.
That's the worst thing that happened to me
944
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:12.720
today. I had an avocado today
that wasn't quite right. It's like it's
945
01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:18.000
fucking hate crime. OLLI. Yeah, But then you can never get it
946
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:23.359
right with an avocado, the ones
that you think, oh, this one's
947
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:27.119
gonna be good, and then you
chop it open and things just it looks
948
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:30.159
like something from a Freddy Krueger movie. Oh yeah, you've got You've got
949
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:32.760
to keep it. You've got to
keep on top of them, like always
950
01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:39.439
go for the right riping from home
ones and just know that you got to
951
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:43.319
wait a couple of days. We
should do a show on it. Avocado
952
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:53.680
addict, make some guacamali and chips. Huh I love, Oh my god.
953
01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:59.880
So the next interview took us in
the next big one. Do you
954
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:01.279
reckon he's gonna spill the beans?
Then? Is he going to just go,
955
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:06.079
oh, yeah, I know what
it is. I don't know.
956
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:12.960
It's bad, it's bad. You
know? Is he actually gonna who?
957
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.359
Who could get it out of him? Could anybody actually get it out of
958
01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:21.640
him? Do you not think the
interviews pressed I mean Sean Sean did press
959
01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:28.520
him quite. He didn't ask him, No, he didn't. He didn't
960
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:32.279
out and out ask him. Maybe
that's one of the Maybe there is a
961
01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:36.039
pre kind of build up before this
listening. He asked me about the UFO.
962
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:40.600
Maybe maybe took his playing role.
Maybe and this is maybe his role
963
01:19:41.159 --> 01:19:46.079
what it is. Maybe maybe the
plan is for him to to put this
964
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:50.880
stuff out at some point. I
think what you need to do is get
965
01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:55.399
a time machine and go get like
Howard Stern from the nineties early two thousands.
966
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:59.000
I think if he was serious and
try to really push it him,
967
01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:01.279
I think he could get a out
of him if anybody could. Howard was
968
01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:04.319
the Bestard doing that. Man,
he get everybody to talk about the biggest
969
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:08.479
stars, most embarrassing stuff possible.
He could do it. I don't know,
970
01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:12.159
if you could get him, you
could have a chance. Yeah,
971
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:18.560
he'd be too busy. Ask him
about pronouns now, I mean realistic.
972
01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:23.039
There was Tim Dillon. Tim Diller'd
be a good one. He go fucking
973
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:28.039
wild with Tim Dillon. Alex Jones
would be a good one. I think
974
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:30.439
if I could pick a panel to
have on a Rogan podcast, he got
975
01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:36.479
Tuck at Alex Jones and to chuck
in either Tim Dillon or Eddie Bravo to
976
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:41.840
add some fucking spice to it,
then that's when you'd find out what it
977
01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:45.000
took. A thought Tim and him
spoke recently, but it was more of
978
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:48.880
like I think Tucker interviewing Tim,
though I wasn't really the other way around,
979
01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:56.199
you know. Yeah, yeah,
I think that the reason why he's
980
01:20:56.359 --> 01:21:00.880
not saying what it is, why
he knows it, is probably because who
981
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:05.159
told him it. I think it's
because you can't do anything about it.
982
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.640
If that right, If if you
if you were to find if you were
983
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:21.439
to find out that there was a
like a malevolent force that it's sole purpose,
984
01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:30.439
like sole purpose is to distort and
taint humanity, What do you do
985
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:35.960
with that? That's not something you
can fight, that's not something you can
986
01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:43.399
petition. You know, it doesn't
It doesn't matter who you vote in there
987
01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:49.319
is there is no no answer to
that puzzle, apart from what took a
988
01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:57.079
course and said on that show,
which was probably say Present Night, that's
989
01:21:57.119 --> 01:22:00.239
literally the only move. Yeah.
He he already kind of said, I
990
01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:03.079
can't remember the show. It was
that one of the bigger earlier shows that
991
01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:05.960
he got on. Originally he said, people just can't handle it. It's
992
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:14.520
too much. So I think that
he God it was with I can't remember
993
01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:17.600
that guy's name, neither can I. But he he agreed and says,
994
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:21.319
I think we've been both told the
same thing. Oh it was it was
995
01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:26.279
that was redacted, Yes he was
unredacted. Yeah, yeah, I mean
996
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:29.199
Tucker said he woudn't even tell his
own wife. Yeah, I don't.
997
01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:32.439
I don't know if he's really gonna
tell us, but especially if he stops
998
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:35.840
digging. Do you really believe that
he's gonna stop digging? How many people
999
01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:39.159
do you guys know that have got
into this as much as him and just
1000
01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:42.439
kind of stop digging at it.
Whether it's whether they do it publicly or
1001
01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:45.239
not is a different story. But
do you think he's still not gonna continue
1002
01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:47.800
to kind of take that itch and
scratch at it. I think he will
1003
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:55.720
maybe, but if you've already dug
it and he sounds like he's convinced that
1004
01:22:55.800 --> 01:23:01.199
he knows what the answer is.
And this is well think about as an
1005
01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:13.840
investigated journalist in the early two thousands, early internet days, when we were
1006
01:23:14.279 --> 01:23:20.960
like the War on Terror was in
its like peak, I really swinging hammer
1007
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:32.319
out there delivering the freedom. There
was so many videos online of unheadings everywhere.
1008
01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:40.119
Yeah, yeah, everyone has seen
one of those videos. Now I
1009
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:46.920
saw one of those videos and I
did not search onheading again. You know,
1010
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:51.880
there is certain things that you find
that you go, oh, not
1011
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:57.479
for me, not for me,
Let me ask you something, lee,
1012
01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:00.000
like, let me cut you off
for real quick. This is an interesting
1013
01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:02.600
point you bring up because I was
just thinking about this recently. Back way
1014
01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:06.079
back, Tom DeLong did an interview
where he was talking about how the process
1015
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:11.640
of explaining this phenomenon everyone it's you
have to kind of build people up to
1016
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.359
it, and that he used the
example that you just brought up. He
1017
01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:15.800
said, Well, if I was
going to tell my kids about isis,
1018
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:19.319
I wouldn't show him a beheading video
first, right, that you can build
1019
01:24:19.319 --> 01:24:21.680
into that. Now. It's interesting
that you say what you just said,
1020
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:26.159
because what I would like to ask
you is, do you think there is
1021
01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:30.079
a process that could have eased you
up into seeing that video and and and
1022
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:34.039
and and maybe made it easier taking
that in the first time, or do
1023
01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:38.159
you think, Look, if you
haven't seen one, when you see it,
1024
01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:41.159
it just changes you. There's no
way to ease into a beheading video.
1025
01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:44.479
I don't personally think there's a way
to ease into a beheading video.
1026
01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:46.359
No, I know I think there
is. I think I really yeah,
1027
01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:49.560
I think you can be just desensitized. I think if I was to see
1028
01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:55.399
that now fresh, it wouldn't hit
me the same as it did when I
1029
01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:59.720
was in my early twenties. Are
what are those steps though? Like?
1030
01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:01.479
What's that process? Do you think? I think I think it's I think
1031
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:05.079
it's just the amount of death we
see on television on a daily basis.
1032
01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:13.520
It's the like now, especially on
X like the I'm almost fucking desensitized to
1033
01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:16.279
seeing the horrific things going on in
Gaza Jojo. I mean like these.
1034
01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:23.479
I think porn is a good way
of explaining this as well. Like when
1035
01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:29.960
I was a kid, and like
you find like somebody would be brave enough
1036
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:31.680
to like go in and they were. They were They were like the only
1037
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:36.880
fucking like eight year old in the
world which has bought the fucking Times.
1038
01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:42.439
And they bought the Times because they
had a fucking Playboy stuffed inside of it.
1039
01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.119
And they tried to they tried to
buy buy the newspaper and get out
1040
01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:48.680
before it was seen inside. And
then one of you is had a porn
1041
01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:54.399
magazine or there was something I don't
I don't know if this was I if
1042
01:25:54.439 --> 01:25:57.199
this was a thing in uh in
the in the US, but lots of
1043
01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:04.319
times you would find like porn and
stuff in phone boxers. There are like
1044
01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:13.399
one person have like this badly pirated
video of like the the softest core porn
1045
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:19.960
you can possibly think of from the
fucking like from the seventies. Now fast
1046
01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:28.920
forward to today and it's like you
go to fucking porn hub and you've got
1047
01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:35.439
like a four foot dead girl surrounded
by black dudes and it's a forty five
1048
01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:45.600
minute video. Yeah, it's like
there's the desensitization towards pawn just shows that
1049
01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:53.920
these things creep up, and I
think there is a I think there's something
1050
01:26:54.000 --> 01:27:00.199
baked into people that want the next
thing. It's like iPhones isn't just iPhone,
1051
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:03.079
cinema. It's the same with everything
else. So it's once you've had
1052
01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:08.600
your fill of something else, you
need the next thing, the next thing.
1053
01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:11.119
That's what is it. I think
it's one one of the reasons.
1054
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:14.920
It's one of the reasons I think
it's good for people to stop like watching
1055
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:20.920
porn. I think I genuinely believe
that the abundance of pornography is one of
1056
01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:29.000
the things that's like helped erode the
building blocks of society. Is just constantly
1057
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:35.680
looking for more and more like degrading
things to look at. Yeah maybe I
1058
01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:39.720
don't know. I just have a
hard time with it myself. The way
1059
01:27:39.760 --> 01:27:42.119
I look at it is that you
could I could watch the idea of porn.
1060
01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:45.439
Yeah yeah, yeah, but no, I mean just getting back to
1061
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:49.039
the phenomena itself, kind of just
in the relation to the isis beheading kind
1062
01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:50.880
of stuff. That's what makes it
tough for me. Is I think you
1063
01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:55.039
could watch Hollywood movies and see aliens
and stuff everywhere. You can see that
1064
01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:58.479
stuff a million times. But I
just the day that it steps out across
1065
01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:00.560
the street from you, I just
don't see how you ease into that.
1066
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:03.119
Man. I think it's gonna have
that shock no matter what you looked at
1067
01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:08.159
before. Once it's real, it's
there, boom, It's just it's ripping
1068
01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:13.199
the band aid. Is it's unavoidable
to me. I don't know. Maybe
1069
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:15.720
you're right, maybe you can.
I don't know. It's this is my
1070
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.000
opinion, obviously, but I don't
know. I don't see it. I
1071
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:24.760
don't know. I mean, I
suppose we again, we're saying, we're
1072
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:32.640
saying this is being like, lookie
with where we are, and I'm like,
1073
01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:41.960
I'm a big animal guy. I
fucking love animals. I would wow,
1074
01:28:42.039 --> 01:28:45.920
it got dark right there, real
fast. Let's get back to the
1075
01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:50.159
good animal stuff. Playing fetch with
your dog. That's bright, that's brighten
1076
01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:59.399
up, frisbees and stuff, you
know, And yeah, so I I
1077
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:03.720
I would struggle as much as I
think I'd like to do it, I
1078
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:11.239
would struggle with hunting. For instance, Like you know theer, I definitely
1079
01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:15.560
couldn't go trophy hunting. I think
I could probably just about grow it.
1080
01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:19.760
Like if if if I knew I
was somewhere and let's see, you went
1081
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:23.399
deer hunting or something of that,
and I knew I was going to take
1082
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:26.079
that deer, it was going to
get cleaned up for me and then get
1083
01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:30.239
sent back to me to stick in
my fucking fridge, of which I was
1084
01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:32.479
going to like, I would go
through it. I think I could probably
1085
01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:35.560
bring myself to do that, but
it would still be fucking difficult for me.
1086
01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:39.840
But that's because I've got supermarkets.
I've never had to hunt. I've
1087
01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:43.079
never had to do anything else.
But like, if you stick me in
1088
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:45.119
a situation where I'm hungry enough,
you know, I will fucking rip the
1089
01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:50.000
eyeballs out of the thing, you
know, within a couple of months.
1090
01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:53.920
Yeah, for sure, it would
change things. If feels for your family,
1091
01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:57.520
Like, yeah, I don't think
you would think twice yeah a deer
1092
01:29:57.560 --> 01:30:00.079
or anything like that. Sorry,
yeah, yeah, well you know,
1093
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:06.439
yeah, I mean we are soft
humans nowadays when it comes to stuff like
1094
01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:10.800
that for sure, Yeah, without
a doubt. But that's what I mean.
1095
01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:14.319
Like, but if you if you
put someone in that situation where they've
1096
01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:18.039
they've grown up in a family full
of hunters, then like their ten year
1097
01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:25.840
old would quite happily do that.
Oh yeah, true? I mean,
1098
01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:40.039
are you putting that into what this
phenomena could be? Am I mute with?
1099
01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:45.359
No, you're just boring? Okay? Are you putting there? You
1100
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:48.119
are? You? Are you putting
that? I'm trying to get my work.
1101
01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:54.079
Can't get my words outly ever since
I've stoped drinking alcohol, I can't
1102
01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:56.960
get my words out. No,
No, trust me, you keep saying
1103
01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:02.199
that. Ali, you're speaking much
better. It's lovely. Okay, yeah,
1104
01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:08.359
are you saying that as in?
Because I'm not getting it what you're
1105
01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:11.960
saying with the with the hunting thing, That's what I'm trying to Oh,
1106
01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:16.279
just that you could do You can
slowly become acclimatized to things that you know.
1107
01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:21.359
The the the desensitization of of seeing
things is like a thing. So
1108
01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:26.680
if you, like me, not
never done it before, would struggle to
1109
01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:29.079
do it. If you brought up
in a family of hunters, you would
1110
01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:30.000
you would just be brought up with
doing it, and you you know,
1111
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:40.800
it's the like what we what we
were saying earlier about becoming desensitized to things,
1112
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:46.079
trying not to say that the heading
thing to me, I'm just I'm
1113
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:55.279
just trying to get into my head
with the what took her nose to the
1114
01:31:55.279 --> 01:31:58.159
the hunting analogy, because I think
I think I get what you're saying.
1115
01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:02.920
I think I think he was going
off what I was talking I was talking
1116
01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:05.680
about. I don't think he was
linking it right necessarily back to talking to
1117
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:12.119
be honest. Yeah, right,
okay, Okay, I got yeah,
1118
01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:14.319
Okay, I got side trucked there, I got side tracked there. I
1119
01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:17.159
got confused. I mean, it
seems like Tucker doesn't feel like that there
1120
01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:20.800
is even room for that acclimatization though, right, I mean from the way
1121
01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:24.279
he's not He's like, I'm not
I'm not looking into it. I'm not
1122
01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:27.439
telling my wife. He doesn't even
think that there's much room for that,
1123
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:30.119
which is weird because if it's something
that's spiritual based, I mean, we've
1124
01:32:30.119 --> 01:32:35.920
always had theologies in the world,
We've always had religions and people. Unless
1125
01:32:35.960 --> 01:32:41.279
something is going to happen, if
if something is going to happen and nothing
1126
01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:46.880
is, nothing we can do can
stop what's going to unfold within our lifetimes,
1127
01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:51.920
then would you not, and there's
no way to prepare for it?
1128
01:32:53.159 --> 01:33:00.640
This is the thing. Would you
not allow your loved ones to live in
1129
01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:04.880
blissful ignorance for as long as they
can? That would be the heroic act,
1130
01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:09.880
wouldn't The heroic act would be to
carry the knowledge of what was coming
1131
01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:15.199
and still sit down for dinner with
a smile on your face. So there's
1132
01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:17.840
no point in even there's no point
in anybody revealing what it is because there's
1133
01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:19.880
nothing you can do about it.
So he may as well just let it
1134
01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:30.640
ride itself out because we're already fucked. Yeah, maybe I do. I
1135
01:33:30.680 --> 01:33:38.079
think that's probably quite close to the
truth. Unfortunately, it does kind of
1136
01:33:38.079 --> 01:33:41.880
feel like that, doesn't it.
It seems like something's coming, doesn't it.
1137
01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:46.880
There is a like I think there
is a palpable tension, and whether
1138
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:55.279
that is the idea of some sort
of impending global conflict or something else,
1139
01:33:56.600 --> 01:34:02.640
I do find it weird that you
you have something like the UFO topic taken
1140
01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:15.000
up so much media time when we
are in such a perilous time, like
1141
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:19.720
like globally, you would you would
think at some point, like the the
1142
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:25.880
Tucker Carson's of the world or the
like politicians, you know, next time
1143
01:34:25.880 --> 01:34:30.359
like David Gross sticks his head up, you would you would think that something
1144
01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:32.640
like someone in Congress would turn around
and say, we have bigger problems to
1145
01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:36.760
worry about. We have bigger problems
to talk to worry about than spacemen.
1146
01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:44.960
But they don't. And so I
find that I can't work out why.
1147
01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:48.600
I like that's sometimes I wonder,
I wonder whether the whole thing is a
1148
01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:56.199
it's just a distraction, you know. It's just like there's so many things
1149
01:34:56.199 --> 01:35:00.000
out there, like the this sort
of scatter gun approach, so there's just
1150
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:08.039
enough little bits. It's like bread
and circus for everybody essentially, So regardless
1151
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:13.119
of what you're into, you know, whether it's video games or conspiracies or
1152
01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:17.359
fucking aliens, flat earth, whatever, there is something out there just to
1153
01:35:17.439 --> 01:35:24.199
consume your time. Enough, we'll
look at that er or report. They
1154
01:35:24.239 --> 01:35:28.880
hammered away at the word extra trustrial, they didn't they didn't talk about anything
1155
01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:31.199
else. It's always interesting when you
look back on what Tucker was saying about.
1156
01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:35.199
You know, they don't want you
to believe in the supernatural. It's
1157
01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:39.279
extra trastural, extra trust, extratrastal. It's it's interesting from the come to
1158
01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:43.279
that conclusion. For sure, you
see it. There's examples. It's not
1159
01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:48.000
just him saying that there's examples if
you look, Yeah, there is.
1160
01:35:48.239 --> 01:35:53.840
But what at what point is it
that everybody's going to be seeing enough the
1161
01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:56.399
same page? Or do you think
we're always going to be divided in this?
1162
01:35:56.720 --> 01:36:00.520
And I do mean the UFO community
with this, and do you think
1163
01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:05.560
there's always going to be a divide
where some of us are starting to think
1164
01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:13.399
we'll hang about maybe this is something
spiritual some of and then we've got a
1165
01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:16.359
group that's like, it's all a
fucking grift. And then we've got a
1166
01:36:16.359 --> 01:36:21.279
group that it is, Hey,
this is uh, this is our friends
1167
01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:29.199
from Mars or the Reticular or whatever
coming to visitors. You know, is
1168
01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:34.880
it ever gonnather? Is the triangle
ever gonna come together? Has it ever?
1169
01:36:36.399 --> 01:36:41.319
No? No, But we've never
seen such a shift like we are
1170
01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:45.640
now though. It's it's it's shifting
really really hard. I don't know.
1171
01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:47.479
I just think that when you look
at things like AI and you look at
1172
01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:53.039
just spirituality in general. I mean, look at look at how throughout history
1173
01:36:53.359 --> 01:36:57.399
mankind has dealt with spirituality and religions
and things. There's just so much more
1174
01:36:57.439 --> 01:37:00.600
evidence, and it's almost like it's
just more plausible to either be some kind
1175
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:06.319
of futuristic AI situation where you have, you know, spending time and space
1176
01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:12.520
and craft like that, or something
that people have written on the cave walls
1177
01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:16.079
for a very very long time,
and it's just it seems like those are
1178
01:37:16.079 --> 01:37:20.600
more legitimate I guess, like not
really legitimate, it's not really the right
1179
01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:27.039
word, but they're just more plausible
explanations than something coming from somewhere else because
1180
01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:30.800
of what we know about how space
time interacts and how hard it is to
1181
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:33.279
move across our universe like that,
dude, it's very difficult. So it
1182
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:38.159
just seems like it's negative. Just
quickly. Do you every wonder what it's
1183
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:43.920
always negative? The news is the
news, and theory is always negative.
1184
01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:48.680
It's like the if we talk about
UFOs, it's it's it's like it's an
1185
01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:53.600
invasion, like what do they want
with us? It's a threat. If
1186
01:37:53.600 --> 01:38:00.600
you talk about the like like climate
change, for instance. You know we
1187
01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:04.760
know that the the couple of degrees, couple of degrees more, there's going
1188
01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:06.479
to be greener parts of the world. But no, no, no,
1189
01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:11.159
it's going to kill you. Everything's
going to kill you. Two degrees over
1190
01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:17.000
one hundred and fifty years is going
to kill you. The what was the
1191
01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:21.479
other things like nuclear war is going
to kill us. AI is going to
1192
01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:28.920
kill us. There's never there's never
people enough people come out and say,
1193
01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:30.000
no, no, this warship.
We can probably sort this out. We're
1194
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:35.479
all we're all like human beings.
Nobody wants this. We can probably talk
1195
01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:39.840
ourselves out of this. People talk
about AI. There's no one else,
1196
01:38:39.880 --> 01:38:42.720
There's no one comes out and says, do you know what? I think
1197
01:38:42.760 --> 01:38:46.720
maybe we could wait, we could
put all of the information of humanity in
1198
01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:50.680
this thing, and it would be
able to come forward and because it's got
1199
01:38:50.960 --> 01:38:58.760
all of our information, it'll be
able to deliver a concise message that we
1200
01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:03.239
all understand for the benefit of humanity. Because if it leads, it leads,
1201
01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:06.239
well, maybe that's it. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of
1202
01:39:06.279 --> 01:39:09.520
the thing. I mean, that's
why I think that's why the new men
1203
01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:12.000
news media, what have you,
they always lean towards the negative. It
1204
01:39:12.119 --> 01:39:15.359
gets clicks, it does, so
why so what what? What's? And
1205
01:39:16.600 --> 01:39:23.439
right? Is that the case?
Because like we see it now so much
1206
01:39:23.600 --> 01:39:35.479
with the like the movie industry and
this like crow barring of woken inclusive narratives
1207
01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:40.800
into video games, into films,
and time after time after time, we
1208
01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:44.439
see these things crashing and burning now
because people don't want to watch them.
1209
01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:48.640
They don't they're not engaging with them. Disney's fucking losing a ship ton of
1210
01:39:48.680 --> 01:39:51.319
money. Like I never thought of
you. If you take me back,
1211
01:39:51.399 --> 01:39:56.720
if you if you take me back
like twenty years ago, guess what they
1212
01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:00.039
or what SA You'll have a six
year old one day? Hilarious. I
1213
01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:03.199
said, you're not gonna let them
watch Disney. I go, fuck off,
1214
01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:06.960
it's Disney. No, no,
no, you will you will not
1215
01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:15.640
have Disney in the house. And
yet here we are. So but if
1216
01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.520
that thing of like if it bleeds, it's if it bleeds, it leads
1217
01:40:20.039 --> 01:40:28.039
that logic suggests that we are so
fucking addicted to being wound up and angry
1218
01:40:28.199 --> 01:40:31.359
that we should technically eat this stuff
up so we can complain about it.
1219
01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:41.600
But we're not. We're turning our
back on it. There's saying, yeah,
1220
01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:45.399
but that's human nature. We just
turn us back on things that we
1221
01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:47.880
don't like. Well, no,
it's it's yeah, it's it's it's human
1222
01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:51.479
nature to just not engage with things. But that's what I'm trying to say.
1223
01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:58.720
So, but the difference with the
like fear among REMDIA is we aren't
1224
01:40:58.760 --> 01:41:04.479
being given the opp because that's all
that's being given. So we can't get
1225
01:41:04.520 --> 01:41:08.760
like a balanced idea of what we
would do of the other way if there
1226
01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:14.520
was, if there was like positive
News FM, we would have like at
1227
01:41:14.640 --> 01:41:19.199
least something to judge, like does
positive News News FM fucking fall apart and
1228
01:41:19.319 --> 01:41:25.199
go bust or all of a sudden, does positive New New News FM become
1229
01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:30.199
the most listened to news channel in
the world. I'd argue that's why people
1230
01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:34.600
like Rogan took off is because,
like, realistically, the under the underwhelming
1231
01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:42.920
message under Joe Rogan is generally positive. Yeah, yeah, but Joe Rogan
1232
01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:45.760
pushes like real conversation though you know
what I mean, it's not always and
1233
01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:49.680
it has dark sized dark conversations.
Sometimes it's there, but I don't really
1234
01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:53.479
think it's happen. Do you really
look at his whole show as like a
1235
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:56.760
positive At the end of the ding
yeah, I guess it is, but
1236
01:41:57.640 --> 01:42:00.000
I don't know. I still think
it's a kind of a middle ground.
1237
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:02.800
You know, it's not fluffy like
a Disney movie, but it's not full
1238
01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:05.680
doom and gloom. It's kind of
like this middle realistic approach. You know,
1239
01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:09.720
ask questions, question everything, kind
of a thing, have a conversation
1240
01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:13.319
about reality. Let's get to the
bottom of what reality is. I don't
1241
01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:15.439
know, trying to understand reality and
being positive. I still think it's kind
1242
01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:18.680
of separate because you're gonna have to
have some darkness there, right, Yeah,
1243
01:42:18.720 --> 01:42:21.600
you do, you do, because
I mean the if you don't have
1244
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:25.520
some darkness, if you don't know
where the forest is, then you're probably
1245
01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:30.479
gonna get eaten by a bear.
But the the thing with Rogan is I
1246
01:42:30.520 --> 01:42:33.319
think the underlying message to that show
is just kind of be nice to each
1247
01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:36.640
other. Just kind of be decent
human beings. Just be nice to people,
1248
01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:45.359
and you're probably you're probably better off
smile than frowning. So that like,
1249
01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:53.399
I, who's that other guy,
that horrible guy with the fuck he's
1250
01:42:53.399 --> 01:42:59.279
had a podcast, he's had all
sorts of issues. Fuck me, that
1251
01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:02.560
could be a lot of people.
Ah, he's he's a fucking asshole,
1252
01:43:02.680 --> 01:43:10.760
right real, like like uber liberal
progressive guy. I forgot with the guys
1253
01:43:10.720 --> 01:43:15.800
and he had a big puncast.
Anyway, I think if the like he
1254
01:43:15.159 --> 01:43:18.520
all he does is cell drama,
like all he does a cell drama and
1255
01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:29.039
negativeativity, he'd be Rogan if that
was what we really wanted. I think,
1256
01:43:29.079 --> 01:43:30.720
I don't know, you mean,
but I can't think of the name
1257
01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:33.279
of it now, and that's really
I don't know. I don't know.
1258
01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:36.640
You're kind of pigeonholing it, making
it it's a little bit too narrow,
1259
01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:41.000
I think. I mean, there
there's definitely like you could take Rogan.
1260
01:43:41.039 --> 01:43:44.079
If Rogan wanted to go dark,
he would still be big. I think
1261
01:43:44.119 --> 01:43:46.039
it's the delivery. It's the person
too. There's maybe there's a lot,
1262
01:43:46.119 --> 01:43:48.560
there's a lot more to it.
I think you're just making a little black
1263
01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:53.920
and white. It's a little then
maybe probably probably maybe, I don't know,
1264
01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:57.319
but I mean, because you have
new stations that run stories about you
1265
01:43:57.359 --> 01:44:00.079
know, the dog competition show,
right, and you know you have people
1266
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:03.319
that turn into that, and then
they have the lady got murdered in the
1267
01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:08.000
alley that night, and they like
that on a global scate of gale,
1268
01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:12.000
though, is that I'm talking about
like global national on a global national level,
1269
01:44:12.199 --> 01:44:18.000
it's it's pretty bleak. Like I
mean, I stopped. I stopped
1270
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:21.720
having a live television come in the
house during the pandemic because I just got
1271
01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:25.600
right. I don't I don't need
this. I don't agree with what's on
1272
01:44:25.640 --> 01:44:29.720
the television. I don't agree with
what I'm being told. I think it
1273
01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:32.279
was it was Peters Morgan. In
the morning, I woke up. I
1274
01:44:32.319 --> 01:44:34.920
think the rest of my family was
still asleep. It must have been like
1275
01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:40.159
five six o'clock in the morning.
I was having a coffee and I felt
1276
01:44:40.159 --> 01:44:43.279
myself getting angry watching the television.
I thought, what the fuck am I
1277
01:44:43.319 --> 01:44:49.720
doing this for? And immediately I
canceled like my satellite subscription and the let
1278
01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:56.600
me that was an interesting conversation with
my girlfriend got up, but the and
1279
01:44:56.800 --> 01:45:00.159
I haven't had live television come in
the house since then. Like I I
1280
01:45:00.319 --> 01:45:06.479
choose what comes in the house now, I'm not like channels, And I
1281
01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:15.800
just can't help but think that this
it's a really good way to control people.
1282
01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:19.159
It's if you can keep people angry
and scared, it's a really good
1283
01:45:19.199 --> 01:45:23.159
way to control people. Because the
last thing you want them. The last
1284
01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:26.720
thing you want if you want control
over a group of people is to have
1285
01:45:26.760 --> 01:45:33.880
them positive and energized. Yeah,
I mean you just don't see that though,
1286
01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:40.479
Dear, it's it is no,
it's nowhere the majority or the majority
1287
01:45:40.520 --> 01:45:45.239
of television. Uh. I don't
watch television either, but especially news,
1288
01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:48.720
the majority of news. I know
you do get the odd dog story,
1289
01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:54.079
but the majority is all negative.
Yeah, and you know tomorrow someone's going
1290
01:45:54.119 --> 01:46:02.640
to fuck that dog. Yeah,
but they do say the people that do
1291
01:46:02.880 --> 01:46:15.039
believe that asks that the believe in
God, they do say that it feeds
1292
01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:26.439
of negativity. So maybe that's why
it's there, because it's so odd that
1293
01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:32.920
negative media cells. If you think
about it, you know why we like
1294
01:46:33.199 --> 01:46:36.439
we like to be happy. Humans
like to be happy. In a way,
1295
01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:43.640
it makes sense. It makes sense
to know where the dangers coming from.
1296
01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:46.720
That's our steel man, that the
negative media there, like, it
1297
01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:51.880
makes sense to you know, you
would rather know, you would rather know
1298
01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:56.800
that there's not a tiger in your
bathroom. Yeah, I would agree.
1299
01:46:56.840 --> 01:47:00.680
But people were a lot more happier
when before the in it eventually going to
1300
01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:08.000
go for a pisce what with the
internet, No, with the target in
1301
01:47:08.039 --> 01:47:10.840
the bathroom. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's just christ Darlie.
1302
01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:16.479
There was like a sentence ago.
It's Mike Tyson's tiger too. I
1303
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:19.479
think the tiger let me go for
a pist. It's even worse. It's
1304
01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:27.680
those magicians that used to be Las
Vegas. Oh yeah, everybody with the
1305
01:47:27.680 --> 01:47:30.720
tiger other than Mike Tyson. He's
the only one that hasn't gotten eaten by
1306
01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:39.520
the tiger. Man. You know, the tiger respects Tyson. Everybody else
1307
01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:44.279
gets attacked man, everybody but him. Yeah, but who knows. I
1308
01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:48.880
think I think the next few few
interviews we took Carlson might get interesting.
1309
01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:54.279
I don't think he's ever going to
spill the beans on it. I think
1310
01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:57.079
I think he has to. I
think at some point I think he will.
1311
01:47:57.319 --> 01:48:00.039
He'll say what he thinks. I
don't think he's going to say who's
1312
01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:06.920
told him it? Though, I
don't think that matters. Has he spoke
1313
01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:11.800
to coal Heart, Yeah? Maybe, I don't know. I would imagine
1314
01:48:11.840 --> 01:48:18.279
he spoke to all those people.
There can't be if you're interested in something,
1315
01:48:19.079 --> 01:48:23.520
there can't be anybody, like,
like we said before, the guy
1316
01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:27.520
to sit down with Putin. If
you if you ever sit down with puting,
1317
01:48:27.560 --> 01:48:31.640
there's not many people you haven't got
access to. Yeah, maybe he's
1318
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:38.920
one of them that told him after
the sit down. I'm amazed that there
1319
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:43.520
was nothing to do with UFOs in
that at all. I was pissed.
1320
01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:45.920
I was pissed. Man. I
laid in bed and listened to that whole
1321
01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:47.880
interview and I'm like, getting to
the end, I'm like, Okay,
1322
01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:50.800
for sure they saved her for the
end, right and then nothing and I'm
1323
01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:55.079
like, oh God, I gotta
go to bed pissed now because I want
1324
01:48:55.119 --> 01:49:01.079
to hear him ask him. I
don't know. I didn't expect anything.
1325
01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:04.079
I was kind of surprised with the
A I think, to be honest with
1326
01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:13.359
you, but I think that's even
though I do think he's he's on the
1327
01:49:13.359 --> 01:49:17.479
good side, is Tucker, But
I do think he knows how he has
1328
01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:21.399
to play it, and I think
that would have been too much because he
1329
01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:26.920
knew the entire world was watching this. Well, don't forget he didn't just
1330
01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:30.560
sit down and speak to put and
he spoke he what he asked him.
1331
01:49:31.680 --> 01:49:35.520
I mean, I do he say
he said it was a candid conversation,
1332
01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:41.000
didn't he I'm not sure. How
much of that I believe I feel he
1333
01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:43.720
would have had there would have had
to be at least been a bone,
1334
01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:51.960
the bones of right the conversation and
topics maybe given maybe maybe given points that
1335
01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:56.720
he wasn't allowed to ask. It
would be interesting to know whether he wasn't
1336
01:49:56.720 --> 01:50:02.479
allowed to ask about the UFO thing. I'm as much as I don't trust
1337
01:50:02.760 --> 01:50:09.800
Western governments, I don't trust governments
in general. You know, I'm certainly
1338
01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:12.399
not one of these people that go, I'm sure fucking Russia is great.
1339
01:50:14.159 --> 01:50:18.920
I wonder how much of what's going
on is it's like some sort of psychological
1340
01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:25.039
operation that's gone on from foreign nations
on the on the West, because since
1341
01:50:25.399 --> 01:50:31.760
probably about what twenty fifteen, like
the fucking seams have fell off the fucking
1342
01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:39.319
Western project, and like most of
that's happened through social social media, so
1343
01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:42.840
and so someone's doing that. That's
not an organic thing. I don't like
1344
01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:46.279
what we've gone through isn't organic.
So it's either it's either a job from
1345
01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:49.119
within or it's a job from outside. It's got to come from somewhere.
1346
01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:56.000
And I wonder whether the UFO thing
is just part of that, it's just
1347
01:50:56.079 --> 01:51:01.600
another like another element. The other
thing I thought about this was as well
1348
01:51:01.640 --> 01:51:09.039
with is looking so close to war, would be what if the TIC TAC
1349
01:51:09.359 --> 01:51:15.239
fraber this stuff about like the technology. What if that's propaganda for them?
1350
01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:19.560
M h what if? What if
the TIC TAC story is to make the
1351
01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:29.720
to make our adversaries think we have
like faster than light fucking delivery systems,
1352
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:35.880
And that would be a great if
you could do that by making it look
1353
01:51:36.039 --> 01:51:42.479
like something's leaked out, and you're
you're countering that by trying to say it's
1354
01:51:42.479 --> 01:51:45.159
a meritive, by trying to say
it's aliens, and then you've got the
1355
01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:48.760
Russians going, it's not fucking aliens, is it? Because aliens don't fucking
1356
01:51:48.800 --> 01:51:54.159
exist. We know this, so
it must be theirs because it's not ours.
1357
01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:58.399
It could be. I was wondered
if that twenty seventeen article came out
1358
01:51:58.399 --> 01:52:01.359
because the timing didn't matter, and
then maybe they got a year or so
1359
01:52:01.520 --> 01:52:06.560
before I hint that they maybe China
or Russia somebody had a breakthrough. Yep,
1360
01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:11.079
And that's really what it could have
been. You know, it's possible.
1361
01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:15.319
I've thought about that recently too.
Yeah. See, my was my
1362
01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:18.279
thing about the TIC TAC. It's
got I stem towards that. I don't
1363
01:52:18.319 --> 01:52:20.880
believe that anymore. I don't believe
the story. I don't believe Fray,
1364
01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:25.560
but I don't believe the I don't
believe that part part I don't. I
1365
01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:29.119
don't believe the incident happened. I
think he's yeah, I think he's doing
1366
01:52:29.119 --> 01:52:31.680
his job. That's the I think
there would be more. There would be
1367
01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:39.760
more said. I don't believe.
I don't believe we have it because even
1368
01:52:39.880 --> 01:52:45.840
the but if if you take like
the stealth bomber, you know, and
1369
01:52:45.880 --> 01:52:48.840
like that was unveiled and moth bowled
kind of at the same time, wasn't
1370
01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:54.880
it, you can kind of look
at the because we saw like Concord was
1371
01:52:54.920 --> 01:53:00.039
still flying at those times. At
that point, there was technological steps that
1372
01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:05.880
you could see in the real world
that would lead to that sort of that
1373
01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:14.720
technology being there. I can't see
the technological steps from what we have now
1374
01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:20.760
that would lead to the tic TAC. I can't see where anything like,
1375
01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:24.439
okay, right, we've got drones, well, we've got military drones.
1376
01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:27.560
We've got drones that be doing drone
strikes for fucking years. So that's that's
1377
01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:32.319
fine. We've got we've got consumer
drones, and we've got more sophisticated like
1378
01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:38.159
military drones. And now you could
say that the tic TAC is just a
1379
01:53:38.319 --> 01:53:44.159
more sophisticated military drone than what we're
saying out than what we're we're used to
1380
01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:51.479
seeing. But you are talking about
fucking trans medium craft faster than light,
1381
01:53:53.039 --> 01:53:59.079
defying gravity, and I just don't
see the I don't see the things that
1382
01:53:59.119 --> 01:54:03.239
have jumps that have made that in
between. It's a quantum leap from where
1383
01:54:03.239 --> 01:54:08.359
we are now. And that's why
we go to like non human intelligence is
1384
01:54:08.359 --> 01:54:12.279
because it's so huge. It's from
what they have, the way, the
1385
01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:17.239
way they say it works. But
when I'll be honest with you, want
1386
01:54:17.239 --> 01:54:25.600
to look at the videos, I'm
not blown away by them. No,
1387
01:54:25.920 --> 01:54:30.359
maybe it's maybe that is just my
understanding, because I don't understand the all
1388
01:54:30.439 --> 01:54:34.560
the diameter. I think I think
that's why we've been given it. I
1389
01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:43.760
think it's because it's it's kind of
it's like being given a black pitch of
1390
01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:48.880
a piece of paper and you go
well to black to black paper, say
1391
01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:55.039
no, no, what that is
is it's a night sky, but it's
1392
01:54:55.079 --> 01:55:01.760
got an invisible spacecraft in it.
So you've just got who that story rests
1393
01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:08.239
on. Who tells it to you. So if someone you really trust tells
1394
01:55:08.279 --> 01:55:11.520
you that there's an invisible spacecraft in
that night sky, you go, fuck
1395
01:55:11.640 --> 01:55:15.359
me, that's incredible. That's exactly
what we get with the fire foot Yeah,
1396
01:55:15.359 --> 01:55:18.359
I think you can see it.
Yeah, but that's exactly what That's
1397
01:55:18.399 --> 01:55:24.319
what we get with the stuff that
like Corbell puts out because it's it's it's
1398
01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:27.199
a leap of faith because you're looking
at stuff. You're going, I don't
1399
01:55:27.359 --> 01:55:30.600
fucking really understand what's going on here. I don't don't. I know nothing
1400
01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:33.760
about the technology that's been used to
shooting it. I know nothing about the
1401
01:55:33.760 --> 01:55:38.159
technology that I'm supposed to be looking
at. But that guy's told me it's
1402
01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:45.439
fucking cool, and I like him, so it's cool. Yeah. I
1403
01:55:45.479 --> 01:55:47.520
don't think we would see though.
That progression though, lead to like something
1404
01:55:47.560 --> 01:55:49.760
towards the tic TAC. I mean, I agree that I think the tic
1405
01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:54.760
TACs are ours personally, I do. I think there's a multiple reasons of
1406
01:55:54.800 --> 01:55:58.640
why they are. But I mean, if I still firmly believe we wouldn't
1407
01:55:58.640 --> 01:56:00.399
know what the nuke was either,
if we didn't have to use it.
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01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:03.479
So I think it's just about like
developing the technology. If you don't have
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01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:08.560
to use it, why not store
it away and just progress and progress and
1410
01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:12.399
progress. I mean, how many
people are really asking the question, just
1411
01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:15.600
general public, why don't we have
like better planes? Why is the stuff
1412
01:56:15.640 --> 01:56:17.720
not really progressing? Why is every
other technology getting better? People just seem
1413
01:56:17.760 --> 01:56:20.079
to get on the plane and not
really think about it. Secret. Man,
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01:56:20.119 --> 01:56:25.119
they're keeping it secret, and it's
the thing is and then that's great.
1415
01:56:25.159 --> 01:56:28.159
So you've got these guys with unlimited
budgets keeping it secret, but you
1416
01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:31.760
still have private industry, and you
still have private industry that want to make
1417
01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:41.560
money. And there's a reason why
the PlayStation six and Xbox fucking to whatever
1418
01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:48.720
we're going to call this one why
Xbox why? But you got to be
1419
01:56:48.720 --> 01:56:51.960
able to control it though. I
mean it's different, right, Like it's
1420
01:56:53.039 --> 01:56:57.840
technology that could end the world,
know what I mean? Very careful,
1421
01:56:57.840 --> 01:56:59.960
Like if you were going to release
it, you'd have to have a defense
1422
01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:01.960
measure, and I wonder if they
just don't have that yet, you know,
1423
01:57:02.079 --> 01:57:06.680
but I think you would have already
had the you would have already had
1424
01:57:06.720 --> 01:57:12.720
private industry and private companies coming up
with the with the steps that will get
1425
01:57:12.760 --> 01:57:15.000
you there. They might have not
had the budget, but you might have
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01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:21.000
hoverboards, so you know. The
That's where I mean about the steps in
1427
01:57:21.119 --> 01:57:24.880
order to get us there. Like
I said, there's a there's a reason
1428
01:57:24.880 --> 01:57:28.439
that the next consoles that come out
are going to be essentially the same consoles
1429
01:57:29.319 --> 01:57:32.760
with fucking different stickers on them.
And that's because because of the time and
1430
01:57:32.840 --> 01:57:36.880
technology we have, this is what
we can deliver for four to five hundred
1431
01:57:36.920 --> 01:57:45.880
dollars. I think there's something there's
something screwy about the whole disclosure movement.
1432
01:57:47.720 --> 01:57:50.079
I wonder if there's a way to
drip it though. I wonder if there's
1433
01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:54.920
a way to just give you a
hoverboard a part of the technology, you
1434
01:57:54.960 --> 01:57:57.880
know. I don't I don't know
if I'm sold that it's not all one
1435
01:57:57.960 --> 01:58:00.239
packaged where you could actually break it
up and piece it out like you could.
1436
01:58:00.279 --> 01:58:02.479
Well, here's a great graphics car, will put that in the PS
1437
01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:04.720
four. Here's a better one,
but still graphics car, but it's just
1438
01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:09.720
better. That's the PS five.
I don't know if there's a way to
1439
01:58:09.479 --> 01:58:13.199
to break it up, you know. Maybe essentially it's like that, like
1440
01:58:13.279 --> 01:58:17.439
you call of els it wouldn't have
to be dripped though. This is my
1441
01:58:17.479 --> 01:58:20.640
thing that I don't think it would
have to be dripped from them, because
1442
01:58:20.680 --> 01:58:27.439
somebody would have cracked it somewhere.
Someone at fucking LG would have would have
1443
01:58:27.560 --> 01:58:32.800
made that step to maybe like you
know, like the just something like super
1444
01:58:32.840 --> 01:58:41.159
conductive magnets or sort of something like
that and put them into into some sort
1445
01:58:41.199 --> 01:58:45.119
of consumer product that's going to make
somebody a million millions, because can you
1446
01:58:45.159 --> 01:58:49.359
imagine how much a hoverboard would make
a legit hoverboard? Look at look at
1447
01:58:49.399 --> 01:58:55.359
the electric skill cakes. Yeah,
I mean Lee, that's my that's my
1448
01:58:55.560 --> 01:58:59.279
argument though for I agree with you, that's my argument for that. Even
1449
01:58:59.319 --> 01:59:01.359
though the tic tac is ours,
the reality of it is is the technology
1450
01:59:01.359 --> 01:59:04.279
still has to come from somewhere.
And that's why I think it has to
1451
01:59:04.319 --> 01:59:10.760
come from some kind of recovered situation
that we didn't come up with. Because
1452
01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:14.840
I agree other physicists in the world
do. They are capable. They are,
1453
01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:16.119
and they've had a lot of time
and to be able to work on
1454
01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:18.600
it and try to figure stuff like
that out. I think you would see
1455
01:59:18.640 --> 01:59:23.000
at other places. That's why I
think it's not I think it's our the
1456
01:59:23.079 --> 01:59:26.760
TikTok is ours, but that technology
where that came from, that's a different
1457
01:59:26.800 --> 01:59:30.920
story. You know. The problem
then you've got is is the fact that
1458
01:59:30.479 --> 01:59:41.039
you must have a group of scientists
that are basically working to different laws of
1459
01:59:41.079 --> 01:59:45.159
physics than everybody else. And I
don't know if you can keep that secret,
1460
01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:50.000
that that has to be sort of
spoken about, you know, because
1461
01:59:50.079 --> 01:59:56.199
if you're if I know, there's
like like things are classified and stuff like
1462
01:59:56.199 --> 02:00:01.359
that, but you're talking the difference
between like if you're talking to your contemporaries
1463
02:00:02.359 --> 02:00:04.640
and they're trying to tell you about
something like that, and you're going,
1464
02:00:04.760 --> 02:00:14.279
oh, fucking magic's real, it's
wild. It's a good argument. Yeah,
1465
02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:16.640
I mean, it's a good argument. Why wouldn't someone just feel the
1466
02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:20.159
moral obligation just come out and do
that? Yeah, I mean, I
1467
02:00:20.159 --> 02:00:25.439
I think that's there. I think
people are also if you're you're you're in
1468
02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:27.560
a job, it's making a lot
of money, you're taking care of your
1469
02:00:27.560 --> 02:00:30.319
family. I don't know. I
think people are also persuaded by money heavily,
1470
02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:33.640
and I think they they could pay
those people well enough to be quiet.
1471
02:00:33.640 --> 02:00:36.399
I think it's possible. I'm not
saying that's happening. But I think
1472
02:00:36.399 --> 02:00:46.640
that that's still possible. Sure,
and people do a lot for for goodden
1473
02:00:46.680 --> 02:00:49.319
country, they do a lot.
And if it's just how they feel,
1474
02:00:49.600 --> 02:00:53.279
if they were if they were even
into the program enough to know what the
1475
02:00:53.319 --> 02:00:56.479
effect could be on humanity, and
and maybe it's just for country, they
1476
02:00:56.479 --> 02:00:58.479
would say, Hey, I'm just
gonna keep my mouth shut. It's too
1477
02:00:58.520 --> 02:01:02.039
much. It's possible doing such a
mystery, right, Yeah, Like like
1478
02:01:02.159 --> 02:01:08.560
bubb Lasar said, he kind of
wished he'd never come out and said anything
1479
02:01:08.640 --> 02:01:11.760
so he could carry on working on
it. Yeah, I mean what they
1480
02:01:12.560 --> 02:01:14.720
But this is the thing. You
can look at other countries as well,
1481
02:01:15.399 --> 02:01:19.079
you know, like the let's say
it's just the US that's got it,
1482
02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:25.399
so you don't have to go to
like adversarial nations because we immediately go to
1483
02:01:26.159 --> 02:01:29.920
like China Russia with these sort of
things. But what about India? India's
1484
02:01:30.039 --> 02:01:34.680
India is and all I you know, it's is there not like some rogue
1485
02:01:34.720 --> 02:01:38.640
physicists in India that's going to come
out and say, mother fucker, these
1486
02:01:38.720 --> 02:01:45.399
guys have got fucking flying cars and
we won't. Why couldn't they? I
1487
02:01:45.439 --> 02:01:47.600
don't know. I think I think
it could come from anywhere. There's capable
1488
02:01:47.640 --> 02:01:51.840
of people everywhere man for sure,
But it seems that the world seems to
1489
02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:57.399
be a stable level of technology.
There's no no one is that. We
1490
02:01:57.520 --> 02:02:02.079
we talk, we've talked about the
breakaway civilization sometimes, but the I mean,
1491
02:02:02.199 --> 02:02:04.800
and maybe that's it. Maybe that
that is the thing. I know
1492
02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:11.199
Dave said before that he believes the
military industrial complex is essentially the breakaway civilization.
1493
02:02:14.600 --> 02:02:25.279
But you I just find the lack
of movement in technology between nations odd.
1494
02:02:25.840 --> 02:02:29.279
I find it odd that nobody's really
got an edge, do you know
1495
02:02:29.319 --> 02:02:34.640
what I mean? I think a
lot of Samson and Google make all take
1496
02:02:34.720 --> 02:02:42.159
good pictures. Yeah no, But
I think also we have to give AI
1497
02:02:42.279 --> 02:02:45.399
a chance to take a crack at
physics though too. I think we're waiting
1498
02:02:45.439 --> 02:02:46.640
for that. We're waiting to see
what happens with that. That's the big
1499
02:02:46.720 --> 02:02:50.359
thing for me. Who knows when
you get quantum computing in there with a
1500
02:02:50.399 --> 02:02:55.640
chat GPT and let it run wild, let it learn the physics. I
1501
02:02:55.720 --> 02:02:59.239
don't know that that's a pretty strong
he probably wouldn't get a better physicist anywhere
1502
02:02:59.239 --> 02:03:01.359
else in the world. Something like
that. I think that's that could really
1503
02:03:01.439 --> 02:03:10.920
change things. It can certainly write
a good podcast description. Really, I've
1504
02:03:10.960 --> 02:03:15.399
only just noticed this, matt Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna when you
1505
02:03:15.439 --> 02:03:17.520
were talking about like celebrities with the
one eye thing, I was like,
1506
02:03:17.520 --> 02:03:19.800
I'm gonna send you this picture.
That's an older picture. I mean,
1507
02:03:19.840 --> 02:03:21.920
I thought it was pretty funny.
We were just laughing making this fun.
1508
02:03:24.680 --> 02:03:29.600
No, that's old fun. That's
I'm probably twenty five, twenty s You're
1509
02:03:29.640 --> 02:03:36.399
also bold and black. Oh yeah, no, that was that was on
1510
02:03:36.520 --> 02:03:42.520
this film set thing we were doing
for school. Yeah. I'm a big
1511
02:03:42.600 --> 02:03:46.239
fan of that band. Dude,
love that band. Yeah. So,
1512
02:03:46.560 --> 02:03:53.600
so we've reached the two hour mark, Matthew, When how long you got
1513
02:03:53.640 --> 02:03:58.319
we got before this competition ends?
Uh? So I have to be fully
1514
02:04:00.399 --> 02:04:01.760
I don't care. Well, that's
that's my full name. I know,
1515
02:04:02.880 --> 02:04:06.640
I don't care. I don't care. Yeah, I gotta have it fully
1516
02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:11.640
submitted by Sunday, not this Sunday, Next Sunday, the sixteenth. So
1517
02:04:12.439 --> 02:04:14.920
yeah, and then I don't know
how long they'll take. I'm sure and
1518
02:04:14.960 --> 02:04:17.439
maybe they'll take a week to go
over and judge it. But the first
1519
02:04:17.560 --> 02:04:23.199
round was judged just by like an
anonymous selection of judges from you know UFO
1520
02:04:23.279 --> 02:04:29.520
community whoever, I have no idea, but the second round will also have
1521
02:04:29.760 --> 02:04:32.479
a community section of voting for it. There's still going to be a judge
1522
02:04:32.680 --> 02:04:36.560
element to the voting, but the
community is there. So if you like
1523
02:04:36.640 --> 02:04:39.600
it, if you like my submission, hey, man, go in there
1524
02:04:39.600 --> 02:04:43.920
and here a little check mark for
TM here. I'm just getting excited for
1525
02:04:44.039 --> 02:04:47.199
when we get rid of the just
the writing and talking and we get to
1526
02:04:47.359 --> 02:04:54.560
the sort of mixed UFO cage fighting
and then I'll I'll step in for that.
1527
02:04:56.640 --> 02:04:58.479
Yeah. But there's a lot of
great people that are in it,
1528
02:04:58.600 --> 02:05:01.079
man, so the she'll be stuffed. It'll be entertaining for everybody, even
1529
02:05:01.079 --> 02:05:04.159
if you're not looking for it for
me. There's stuff there for everybody.
1530
02:05:04.199 --> 02:05:06.880
Man, go check it out.
There's a lot of great voices. Go
1531
02:05:08.039 --> 02:05:13.279
support terrestural material people. You know
what to do and if you want to
1532
02:05:13.279 --> 02:05:18.479
support us, all the links sine
and description people as well. And also
1533
02:05:18.640 --> 02:05:26.840
if if you're driving, or you
might just be doing some housework and you
1534
02:05:26.920 --> 02:05:30.159
want to just have tying to tell
you we've got a podcast. Yeah,
1535
02:05:30.199 --> 02:05:33.720
it's the easiest way for you to
listen to our show. If you if
1536
02:05:33.800 --> 02:05:36.800
sometimes you don't get the chance to
listen to half the show, then go
1537
02:05:36.920 --> 02:05:42.079
and download the podcast where all the
major platforms if we're not on the platform
1538
02:05:42.279 --> 02:05:47.359
of which you listen to podcasts,
or emailers at Alien edut Alien at a
1539
02:05:47.520 --> 02:06:00.560
uk H, somebody yeah, or
send me a message at Alien Addicts Real
1540
02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:03.399
Alien added on Twitter, and we'll
make sure we get on that podcast platform
1541
02:06:03.520 --> 02:06:10.479
because that's the best place for us
for you to listen to us is podcasts.
1542
02:06:11.119 --> 02:06:14.479
That's the best way for you to
consume the content as far as we're
1543
02:06:14.560 --> 02:06:16.640
concerned. And let me let me
give you guys one little help. We'll
1544
02:06:16.680 --> 02:06:19.079
plug with that. If you guys
are gamers out there, which is a
1545
02:06:19.159 --> 02:06:24.000
lot of gamers in the UFO land. If you have a PlayStation five and
1546
02:06:24.079 --> 02:06:27.079
you play Diablo or some other game
where you don't care about the sound too
1547
02:06:27.159 --> 02:06:30.760
much, you can run Spotify in
the background while you play your game so
1548
02:06:30.840 --> 02:06:33.159
you can listen to the Alien Addicts
while you're slaying demons. Okay, I
1549
02:06:33.279 --> 02:06:36.479
do it from time to time.
Fantastic. There you go. There you
1550
02:06:36.600 --> 02:06:45.479
go listen to Alien Addict Molly salaverign
over demons demons while we talk about demons.
1551
02:06:45.520 --> 02:06:53.439
How about that? Good. I
go, breast folks, mind the
1552
02:06:53.479 --> 02:07:03.000
books, don't buy Tune in tomorrow
nine pm. We'll be talking about stuff
1553
02:07:03.079 --> 02:07:11.079
and that aliens and things. Yeah, all going on there. You go,
1554
02:07:11.960 --> 02:07:15.159
what is the US government's relationship with
these things? And there's evidence that
1555
02:07:15.199 --> 02:07:20.159
there is a relationship and that it's
a longstanding and that raises like a lot
1556
02:07:20.199 --> 02:07:27.000
of questions about intent and and so
like what is that? And I just
1557
02:07:27.119 --> 02:07:31.159
personally decided, you know, and
people have been hurt by these things.
1558
02:07:31.520 --> 02:07:34.600
You know, that's a fact.
That's a fact. It's a noble fact,
1559
02:07:34.640 --> 02:07:39.920
it's a provable fact. Their main
interest is in convincing that the supernatural
1560
02:07:40.039 --> 02:07:45.000
is not real. That's and if
you watch and there are people in the
1561
02:07:45.079 --> 02:07:48.079
media who specialize in spreading these lies
on behalf of the government. I'm not
1562
02:07:48.079 --> 02:07:50.560
gonna name anybody, but like some
of them work at the New York Times.
1563
02:07:51.239 --> 02:07:55.359
If you once you realize what the
point of the exercise is, it's
1564
02:07:55.560 --> 02:08:01.239
crazy. And I hope you'll assess
all the fact checking and the skepticism on
1565
02:08:01.520 --> 02:08:05.439
UAPs through this lens. The main
thing they want you to believe is that
1566
02:08:05.439 --> 02:08:09.119
the supernatural is not real. Well, then you have to ask yourself like,
1567
02:08:09.239 --> 02:08:13.600
why that's interesting? It is so
interesting. Why is that important to
1568
02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:16.920
you? Why do you care if
I think the supernatural is real? Why
1569
02:08:18.279 --> 02:08:20.239
is that? First of all,
why is it? How dare you,
1570
02:08:20.560 --> 02:08:24.039
as my government to try to get
involved in my spiritual beliefs. That's totally
1571
02:08:24.119 --> 02:08:26.239
not your area, So we get
the fuck out of there. Okay,
1572
02:08:26.399 --> 02:08:37.760
hey, it would be why has
that been so important for eighty years for
1573
02:08:37.840 --> 02:08:41.119
you to convince me the supernatural is
not real? Why? Why is that?
1574
02:08:41.239 --> 02:08:45.199
And of course I can't answer the
question, but my gut level response
1575
02:08:45.279 --> 02:08:48.239
is, well, because if it
is real, whatever they're telling you is
1576
02:08:48.279 --> 02:09:50.039
not real. Chickens