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Broadcasting live from Houston, Texas, and around the world. TV host,
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best-selling author, and radio personality, Brad Gilmore, brings you a
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collection of conversations with stars from movies.
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Matthew McConaughey.
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Brad Gilmore.
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Mark Wahlberg.
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Hey, how are you?
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The one and only Sydney Sweeney joins us.
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Sydney, how are you?
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I'm good.
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Thank you.
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How are you?
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Tom Hanks and Robin Wright in my favorite movie of
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the year.
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Guys, thanks so much for joining the show.
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Oh, thank you.
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Thank you. Jessica Alba and Lizzie Mathis.
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Ladies, thank you so much for joining me.
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Thank you.
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Kevin Costner joins us. Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Television jimmy fallon joins us this morning jimmy how you
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doing my friend good morning.
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Thank you so much brad for having me i appreciate this.
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Bud one of my all-time favorites vince vaughn joins us
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right now vince thanks man.
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Oh great to be with you brad and great to
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be talking to houston good good morning to you.
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We got Owen Wilson. We got Judy Greer. Thanks for
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joining the show, guys.
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Thank you.
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Jay Leno joins us.
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Jay, how you doing?
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Hey, Brad. What's going on?
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We got Anna Sawai joining the show. Anna, thanks so
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much for joining us.
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Thank you, Brad.
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Music. Lola Monroe. Thank you.
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Thank you for having me. The legendary front man of ACDC,
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Brian Johnson, joins us right now.
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Brian, how you doing?
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Good morning, Brad. What's looking at y'all can be funny, lad.
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Megan Trainor.
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Thank you so much, Brad.
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You're welcome.
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Paris Hilton, the infinite icon herself, is on the show. Paris,
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love the film.
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Thank you.
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I'm so proud of it.
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And more. And more.
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This is The Collection.
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Now your host, The Boat.
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Ray Gilmore!
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So sorry. Oh, you're all good? I have a three-ring
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circus going on here today.
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I'm sure it's a busy week.
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Well, I had a show last night down in San
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Diego with Godsmack, and I didn't get home until like
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four in the morning. And today has been nuts. I
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have workers around the house, so hopefully, like, I was
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just outside telling the workers, like, You guys got to
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be quiet. I have like air blowers going on and everything. So,
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and I'm getting ready to, I leave in a few
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hours to go to the airport to head to Boston.
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To head to Boston.
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Yeah. Oh my goodness.
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Okay.
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Well, I won't, I won't keep.
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Hey, no, it's all good. Thank you for, thank you
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for doing this.
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No, no, no.
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I appreciate it. Well, you know what?
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I'll have a, an intro already taped. So we'll jump
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right in, man. I can't wait to talk about it.
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So Daniel, thank you so much for taking the time.
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Congratulations on this.
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Oh, thank you.
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Look, I mean, when I think when people maybe hear
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the name Hollywood Vampires, maybe they know about it.
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Maybe they don't.
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You know, I mean, I think that some people, when
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you look at the members of the band, they're known
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for several things. And maybe this doesn't jump out to
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them at first. So what was it for you where
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you realized, you know, this is not just a bunch
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of famous guys playing together. This is actually a real
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band that has a really interesting story.
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You know, so initially when we, when we were going
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to do this, we're just going to shoot a concert.
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And I, and I, you know, I talked to Paul Geary,
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their manager who I've known for years, um, you know,
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and I thought it'd be cool to document it. Cause
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you know, all these, these legends on stage, let's get it. And, um,
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as we started talking about that and I started getting
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to know them, I started realizing there's a deeper story. Um,
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and it started like really becoming evident, uh, like, Hey,
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this isn't what I would know what I thought, you know, I,
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I've been around a lot of like super groups in
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my life from Kings of Chaos to, you know, even
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Neurotic Outsiders years ago, the Matt Sorum's other group. But
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this one was different. There was a real like brotherhood
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that they were forging. And they started like really seeing
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like they seem like a real band to me. And
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I even noticed it as we were prepping to shoot
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the live concert that they were starting to like become
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more of a unit. And so. I kind of, I
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went back to him saying, Hey, I know we're just
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going to shoot a concert, but what about telling the
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story of the vampires here? Because this isn't like, you know,
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originally it was, you know, a drinking club and then
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they kind of created a bar band to have fun,
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but it became much more than a bar band. And,
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and I thought there was a more interesting story there.
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And so, you know, it just kind of unfolded naturally.
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That was what was kind of cool about it. We
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never set out to kind of do a documentary. That
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was never the initial, the original intention. But just like
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how the band came together organically, the kind of the
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idea to tell a story and make a documentary about it,
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that happened organically as well. So it was, you know,
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it just all unfolded on its own. And it was
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also as nice about it. We took our time and
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we kind of did it over a three year period.
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There was like no one telling us when to finish it. Right. Yeah.
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I mean, so you kind of let that, you know,
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whatever happens in that time happen and whatever it's done
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is done.
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You know, you're not.
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Have some meal with all these little nuggets, like these
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little side stories. And, you know, and like, it's, it's
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even crazy, even how, like, you know, the band we
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see in the documentary, the band being kind of put together.
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It's amazing. We have that footage of the early days
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of like Alice Cooper and Johnny Depp with management and
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Bob Ezrin in Johnny Depp's kitchen discussing, Hey, are we
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going to do this? And even like, even like a
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business discussion with Johnny, like I think it was Bob
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Ezrin and, and, uh, you know, Bob and, and Shep
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were saying, Hey, you know, you can make more money
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in one week doing a movie than you can the
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entire time doing this project. And Shire was like, it's
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not about that. It's not about the money, but we
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see the band form. But then more importantly, we show, we,
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we see the band kind of morph into like being
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their own, like towards the end there by the second album,
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you know, even Bob Ezrin didn't produce the second record.
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They kind of produced it internally with Tommy. Um, And
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we kind of see them just become like this organic group,
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almost like an up and coming band, you know, like
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that hasn't had success, that doesn't have real management or whatever,
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because they kind of like they work as like a
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brotherhood now, like a unit. It was it was really
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kind of refreshing to see that because usually people at
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that level.
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You kind of have handlers and it's just it's just
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a different animal. But when they make music together, it's
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just them.
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And like you said, even their origin story, all of
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it's very rock and roll, right? I mean, it's just,
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we're playing together. We're just some guys who want to
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get together. We don't care about all the red tape.
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We don't care what anybody says. We're just going to
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do the damn thing, whether you like it or not.
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And so at what point, so when you decide, okay,
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we're going to do the documentary, not just the concert film,
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who had all this footage that you had access to?
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Well, so one, we initially didn't know about a lot
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of that footage. So I started with obviously with with Alice, because,
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you know, this is Alice's story. I mean, Alice started
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the Hollywood Vampires. And so I didn't make sure Alice
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was OK with doing it. And, you know, we started
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out with a master interview with Alice. And the person
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I really stepped up that became the hero was Tommy.
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I mean, some of the most priceless, amazing footage of
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this whole film was Tommy, you know. Tommy just whips
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his cell phone out at four o'clock in the morning
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when he's sitting there writing songs with Johnny. I mean,
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fans are going to love that stuff. I mean, it's
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a real, you know, look, I mean, all these guys
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are pros, right? But even pros act differently when a
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professional camera crew comes in, you know? Right. Their guard
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is down when it's like their friend filming them on
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a cell phone. You get to see the real them.
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And so I, you know, Tommy was doing a dugout,
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but believe it or not, Alice has a big archives.
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He has a friend of mine, Bob Pfeiffer. Bob oversees
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his archive and they keep everything. And so there was
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a treasure trove of stuff that we had from the
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70s and 80s and 90s from Alice to kind of
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tell the story of how we started the vampires. And
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then we had archival producers go after stuff. But the
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stuff with them, a lot of that emanated from Tommy.
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Tommy was like religious about filming. And believe it or not,
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in the early days, too, Matt Sorum, he filmed a
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lot of stuff. He would always walk around with a camera.
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And so I think some of the most special footage
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is the stuff that was shot by the band, you know,
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without me there, because you really, you know, they're just
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being themselves. So if you really want to see what
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these guys are like in real life, well, that's it.
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And the thing about a documentary too is, you know,
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different from a narrative film where, you know, you have
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the script and you know, it's beginning, middle and end.
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Here's what we need to shoot when we need to
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shoot it. A doc comes together in the edits That's
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where the whole thing starts to come together. And I'm
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sure the initial vision, it was way different, maybe not
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way different, but different than what the end product was
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because you find all this footage or somebody says something
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in an interview and it sparks a story. And now
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we got to hone in on that. We got to
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spend three, five minutes of the doc telling that story.
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So when you were combing through this footage, what was
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the one or two golden nuggets, if you will, for
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lack of a better term.
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Where you're like, I can't believe we actually have this?
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The Paul McCartney segment I couldn't believe we had. I mean,
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they even forgot they had it, but I was like.
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How do you forget that?
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It was insane. I mean, just that whole thing. I mean,
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I joked to someone else, but can you imagine if
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you were like a pizza delivery guy or something, you
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show up and it's Johnny Depp's house and you look
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over and there's like Alice Cooper and Joe Perry and
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Paul McCartney and they're all just kind of hanging out.
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I mean, it was... no handlers or anything. It was
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just this organic, amazing thing. These guys were just making
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music together in like Johnny's converted garage, which is just insane. Um,
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but the, the fact that we had all that footage, um, wow,
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that whole scene to me is like kind of the
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backbone of the film that really kind of shows what,
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what this band's all about and how they just come
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together and make music together. Um, and then, you know, um, God,
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there's so many other great moments just seeing them in
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their element.
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And I think that's like the vibe, just being around
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them is such an appeal of the movie.
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And then even seeing on stage.
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And I think what people are going to sometimes walk
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away thinking is, you knew Johnny did stuff. right people
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know johnny was musician but you know he's when you
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say johnny depp they think actor johnny depp actor and
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a great actor one of the greatest uh on screen um.
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But I think people are going to be shocked. But
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like this guy goes like in the music.
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He was always a musician. He never wanted to be
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an actor. You know, when he moved from Kentucky to
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Florida and then Florida to L.A., it was always to
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be a rock star musician. He never intended. I mean,
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he took an acting role in Nightmare on Elm Street
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to help pay the bills. But it was always he
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still wanted to be a rock star.
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you know, but obviously when you become so well known
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for something that, you know, his acting is just so
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up here, you know, I guess a lot of people,
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it's hard to see him any other way, but hopefully
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after seeing this, he realized he's the real deal. You know, and, and,
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you know, I think, I think it comes across, you know,
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we say it without saying it, but, you know, guys
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like Joe Perry and Jeff Beck and even kind of
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Duff says it in the interview. I mean, these guys
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wouldn't go on stage without, and share a stage and share, like,
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Spallion with Johnny if he couldn't play. I mean, he's
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up there playing with the biggest and the best, and
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he's holding his own, and you really get to see
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what a real musician he is. I mean, he's the
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real deal.
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He's the real deal, and I think that, too, like,
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known for one thing, like acting, and then they go
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into music, oh, it's... you know, there's a bit of
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a roll your eyes, but even someone like a John Stamos,
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when he's playing drums with the Beach Boys, and then
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you look at his drumming videos, you're like, oh, like
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I went to John's house, and one of my friends, Grayson,
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who plays with Sepultura and stuff, and John's friends with him,
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and I ended up going to John's house, and they'd
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have like a drum off, they're just like, John like
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just geeks out about drumming, and like he has a
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studio up in his house with all his drum sets,
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and he takes it really seriously, like And then same
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thing with Johnny. Johnny takes his playing really seriously. I mean,
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he has a studio in his house. There's guitars everywhere.
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I mean, I think it's his first true love.
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So you get to see inside that world. So I think,
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you know, any fan that wasn't aware of this will
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be really surprised. But I think it's cool for Johnny
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to get the validation from guys like Joe and Jeff.
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I mean, the fact that you look at all that
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old footage of when he was out with Jeff Beck
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on the road. I mean, he's holding his own with
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one of the greatest guitar players ever.
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Of all time, yeah.
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It's crazy.
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It's insane. It's insane.
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And that's what people are going to be able to see.
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And again, when you talk about it starting off as
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this concert film and evolving into what it did, it
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wouldn't be as interesting if the tunes weren't good.
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Do you know what I mean?
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These guys actually, they're a great group.
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They're not just like, they are a super group.
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They're a bar band, but they're great. no overproduced. I mean,
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the first album was obviously covers and then, but as
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they started writing their own music. And so that's why, like,
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you know, I started saying, I go, there's another story here.
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You guys are actually becoming like a real band. Um,
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it's no longer just this fun side thing anymore. Uh,
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like these other super groups or, you know, like as, as,
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as Alice would say, a bar band, uh, and bar
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bands don't go out and in headline arenas, uh, in Europe.
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And so, you know, and it was interesting just to
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be able to see that story morph. And, uh, And also,
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you know, I learned a lot. I mean, I've been
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around for a long time and I've done a lot
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of music docs and I work with a lot of artists,
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but you know, I wasn't that, and I was an
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Alice Cooper fan as a kid, but I wasn't aware
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of like, he was like the nucleus of a whole
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like Hollywood social scene, 70s. I mean, I joked with him.
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He's like the original Paris Hilton. I mean, he was
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the guy that everybody wanted to hang out with. There's
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a funny scene towards the end of the movie where
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I'm with him in the rainbow room. And he's like,
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you know, and he was just talking about what it
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wasn't a big deal. And I'm like, it wasn't a
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big deal that he having drinks with John Lennon on
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Tuesday night. I was like, why? It's just like the
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way it is. Like, Oh yeah. Cause they were just
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regular guys. I'm like, they weren't regular guys.
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They were the Beatles.
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They were hanging out with the Beatles and Keith moon
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having drinks. Like that is not normal. It's just, it's not,
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it's like, but it's the way in these like, yeah, maybe.
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And I'm like, Jesus, I, you know, just incredible stories.
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And I mean, I could have made a whole doc
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just on that, but, You know, we had to get
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to the present day to, you know, to talk about.
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And another cool thing is we shot a full, I
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shot a full show at the Bach Center Wang Theater
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in Boston. So eventually that'll come out as a standalone.
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But we shot the full concert and we only have
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little segments of it in the movie. But, you know,
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I shot a full concert with 24 cameras and 4K.
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So we have a whole separate thing that'll eventually come out.
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OK, those are my those are going to be two
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questions that we'll wrap on, because I know you have
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a lot going on. I appreciate your time. And again,
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we're talking about Unleashed Spirits, The Rise of the Hollywood Vampires,
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which its debut is world premiere is September the 18th
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at the Boston Wang Theater.
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That's where you're getting ready to go to.
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Two things, by the way, we've sold all over a
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thousand tickets, which is insane because, you know, movie premieres
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are like, you know, Movie theaters sold 100, 150 people.
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Even premieres usually at 400 or 500. I mean, the
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fact we're going to have probably a couple thousand people
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in a movie premiere, it's mind-boggling.
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Well, what's crazy, too, is.
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If anybody sees just a clip, just a trailer of this,
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even if you're a periphery rock and roll fan and
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you just like Hollywood intrigue of any kind, I mean,
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there's so many. This isn't just a rock doc. This
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goes out to so many kinds of people who I
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think are going to be. And that's, I think, evident
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by the great turnout you're going to have.
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But two things.
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One, when you see some of that early photography and
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you're seeing, you know, like you said, Lennon and you're
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seeing Ringo. and all these guys coming in to the, uh, to, to, to,
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to drink with Alice and his social club and be
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part of the quote unquote Hollywood vampires.
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It's just such an.
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A bygone era that I just wish still existed in
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some realm.
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I think that's, as Alice said, you couldn't do it
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today because of social media and stuff. I mean, they
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had anonymity, they, they had privacy. They could, they could
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sneak in and out of there nowadays with all the
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cameras and everything. I mean, it just, you know, it's
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so different. Um, I mean, what a cool thing, but
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can you just imagine back in those days, if you
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happen to get up into that crow's nest area and you,
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you look up and you see, you know, all those
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guys together, you would be like, what? You know, it just,
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it's just crazy. And, uh, you know, what a cool brotherhood.
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Like they were all super close, uh, you know, and
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they all still are. I mean, you can see it
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cause that's like the common thread. Like, you know, Alice
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has always had this friendship and brotherhood with his peers.
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and they all have a mutual respect for each other.
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So it's kind of cool that they can come together
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and make music.
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It would be just incredible to be a fly on
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the wall back then.
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I was talking to.
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Even now, I've been a fly on the wall now.
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It was, I mean- Amazing. I still picture myself. I
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work with a lot of artists, but like, you know,
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when you're around people who are kind of legends and
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icons and, you know, that you grew up watching and
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then to be in their world and just to be trusted,
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just be around them, it's pretty wild. I mean, I mean,
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picture myself, you know, I don't get nervous. I speak
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a lot in public, but I'm freaking out. I'm going
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to be on the stage with Joe and Alice and Tommy.
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Eddie Trunk is moderating it on Friday night. There's going
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to be a couple thousand people there. That's an intimidating stage.
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That stage at the Wang Center, that's where we shot
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the concert part. It's a big stage. I pinch myself
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on that stuff. I don't take it for granted. It's
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pretty cool, actually.
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Never thought you'd be in this position.
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No, no, no, no, no. I never even thought I'd
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go into entertainment, to be honest with you. I thought
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I was going to be a lawyer. But I'd say it's, yeah, yeah.
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I never take it for granted. I realize how lucky
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I am. And it's pretty cool. You know, I always say, like,
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when it comes to this project, I pinch my, like,
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16-year-old self. I remember, like, one of my most vivid
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memories of high school was my friend and I snuck
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into Aerosmith Pump Tour at Brendenburn Arena in New Jersey.
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And we snuck into the backstage tunnel. Like, we snuck
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down the ramp. And I'll never forget that. And like,
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here I am now, like, you know, I have Joe
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Perry's cell phone. It's just, it's weird.
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It's crazy, right?
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It's weird. It's so, you know, and it's, you know,
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that type of stuff just, you know, it gets you
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super excited and like appreciative to even do stuff like this.
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Oh, it's, it's always a pinch me moment.
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I agree. Sometimes when you get to meet your heroes
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and one of the things I was going to say,
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I was talking to a guy, he used to be
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a pro wrestling manager back in the day.
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Jimmy Hart is his name.
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And he was in a group called the Gentries who
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were signed to Sun Records.
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And he talked to me about, oh.
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Yeah, we'd go in Sam Phillips' studio and there's Elvis
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and Jerry Lee and they're like working on a tune.
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And I'm like, oh my gosh, I wish I.
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Was with you. To stumble into that, it's like what?
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Just to stumble into it.
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What are you talking about? Okay, when you shoot a
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concert film though, this is really what I want to
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know because you said 24 cameras, 4K. I can't imagine
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the undertaking that that truly is. It's not as simple as,
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hitting record and letting it go. I mean, the sound's
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got to be right. The crowd has to be, everything
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has to be mic'd in such a certain way. How
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gargantuan of an undertaking was that?
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Is it as difficult as I think it is?
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Fortunately for me, and I've been doing that, that's what
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I've done the most. I'm most known for my concert specials,
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you know, and I've done over 300 of them. And
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I even have the world record for the most cameras
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ever used in a live concert special. When I did
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Creed in 2009, I did 239 cameras. But You know,
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it gets a little overwhelming. I mean, like every time
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we do it, I always like pinch myself, like, how
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do we make this look so simple? But, you know,
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I have the same team. We've been working together for
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a long time. I have some people like my my
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assistant's been with me 26 years. But, you know, it's
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like rinse and repeat for us. But, you know, some
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are more complex than others on the vampires one. Uh,
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it was a pretty complex shoot. I mean, our crew
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is about a hundred people. Uh, we had a big
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53 foot TV truck there. Um, it was, you know,
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a pretty layered crew too. So we had over a
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hundred on our team and then it was a union shoot.
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So we had all the union people too. So there's probably, uh,
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160 170 people on the crew um but you know
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technically you know multi-camera is difficult but you know when
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you use the tv trucks all the cameras come into
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i have a big control room so it looks like
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i'm at norad um you know we brought in one
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of the the audio engineers for the band justin who
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was a great help because he knew the band really
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well um But yeah, I mean, you know, and we
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treat it like it's live when we do our shows. Like,
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it doesn't matter who it is. Like, we cut it
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like it's live. I call I'll actually call the show live.
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So then we come out of there with what's called
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a line cut. And then it makes our posts a
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little faster. But, you know, some shoots are more complex.
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So we just did Katy Perry in Paris and Katy
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was 60 camera angles over two nights. And that was
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done more film style with with Ari Alexa. So. that
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was actually a lot more complex because then we try
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to piece it together to make it look like one show,
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but the show, like the vampires, you can't really do
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that because they don't play to a click track. Right.
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So it would be hard to match, you know, because of.
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The rhythm, because the tempo might be a little bit different.
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And with the pop artists, when they're playing along to
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a click or whatever, you can, everything will match perfectly. Uh,
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but with rock bands, we usually just go for it.
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But I mean, we had that place covered. I mean,
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it was a tremendous amount of cameras for such a
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small room. Uh, I'm a little bit of a camera whore, though.
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I love coverage. I mean, I put cameras everywhere. So,
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you know, most people would probably would have shot that
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show with like 10 cameras. I you know, I I
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just I go crazy.
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You want you want as much as you can.
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Right. Like you want to play in the edit. Right.
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A little overkill sometimes. You know, but I take it seriously, too,
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because also it's because like these guys are legends and like, yeah.
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in a weird way when I do their concerts, I,
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I feel like I'm like in a story and like
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kind of capturing a moment in time.
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And, you know, that is what you are.
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You, you want to have as much value to it
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as possible. So 20, 30 years from now, when people
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want to look back on and learn about these guys,
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you have all the different angles and you, you know,
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have it in a certain quality level. Um, and so,
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you know, now we're shooting like, you know, we just
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did the Hillary Duff and we're shooting, we shot her
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in six K. And so, you know, now it's, it's
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heading towards eight K now it's like, you know, and,
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the biggest mess on stuff like that, you do 30
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cameras and 6k, the hard drives.
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Oh, it's like, you're talking hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
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and hundreds of gigabytes.
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Yeah.
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Terabytes. Yeah. Like, you know, you know, we, but, but
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you know, it's, um, but when I do that stuff though,
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I like doing the concert stuff to me is like
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an honor because, you know, I grew up watching concert films,
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like the last waltz and stuff like that. And, I
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know that people will be doing the same thing as kids.
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They'll be maybe discovering an artist for the first time
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by looking at one of our concert films. And so,
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you know, that's why we do so many of these things. And,
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you know, I'm hoping that many years from now, even
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after I'm dead, people look and they can see this,
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you know, this body of work and see these artists
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in their glory.
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Well, it's a part of their story. And I mean,
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this is the historical document, if you will. I mean,
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it truly is. And I think that people are going
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to love this. You know, Daniel, I really do appreciate
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your time. Congratulations on this doc and all the other
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things that you're working on.
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And hopefully we can.
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Where are you located?
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I'm in Houston. I'm in Houston, Texas.
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I knew you were in the South, but I was
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saying we're in Nashville. Our headquarters is in Nashville. And
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we're at Nashville Film Festival next week because I have
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my Frampton doc there on opening night. And then we
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have a Hazen film that we did. But we have
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two films at Nashville Film Festival next week. I was
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going to invite you. But if you want to come up.
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But you know what?
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If I find myself in Nashville, I will definitely do that.
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You know what, man?
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Like, again, I can't sing the praises of this enough. It's, again,
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Unleashed Spirits, The Rise of the Hollywood Vampires.
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Everyone can go.
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Well, not everyone can go see it. But it starts
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September 18th at the Boston Wing. And that's where people
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are going to start seeing it. And, man, again, Daniel,
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I really appreciate your time. Congratulations on this, man.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate it. Thank you, man.
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Kevin Costner joins us. Thank you so much.
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Television jimmy fallon joins us this morning jimmy how you
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doing my friend good morning.
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Thank you so much brad for having me i appreciate this.
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Bud one of my all-time favorites vince vaughn joins us
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right now vince thanks man.
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be talking to houston good good morning to you.
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We got Owen Wilson. We got Judy Greer. Thanks for
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We got Anna Sawai joining the show. Anna, thanks so
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much for joining us.
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Brian Johnson, joins us right now.
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Brian, how you doing?
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Good morning, Brad. What's looking at y'all can be funny, lad.
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Megan Trainor.
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Thank you so much, Brad.
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You're welcome.
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Paris Hilton, the infinite icon herself, is on the show. Paris,
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love the film.
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I'm so proud of it.
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This is The Collection.
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Ray Gilmore!
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So sorry. Oh, you're all good? I have a three-ring
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circus going on here today.
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I'm sure it's a busy week.
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Well, I had a show last night down in San
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Diego with Godsmack, and I didn't get home until like
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four in the morning. And today has been nuts. I
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have workers around the house, so hopefully, like, I was
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just outside telling the workers, like, You guys got to
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be quiet. I have like air blowers going on and everything. So,
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hours to go to the airport to head to Boston.
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To head to Boston.
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Yeah. Oh my goodness.
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Okay.
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Well, I won't, I won't keep.
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Hey, no, it's all good. Thank you for, thank you
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No, no, no.
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I appreciate it. Well, you know what?
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I'll have a, an intro already taped. So we'll jump
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right in, man. I can't wait to talk about it.
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So Daniel, thank you so much for taking the time.
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Congratulations on this.
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Oh, thank you.
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Look, I mean, when I think when people maybe hear
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the name Hollywood Vampires, maybe they know about it.
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Maybe they don't.
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You know, I mean, I think that some people, when
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you look at the members of the band, they're known
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for several things. And maybe this doesn't jump out to
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them at first. So what was it for you where
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you realized, you know, this is not just a bunch
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of famous guys playing together. This is actually a real
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band that has a really interesting story.
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You know, so initially when we, when we were going
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to do this, we're just going to shoot a concert.
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their manager who I've known for years, um, you know,
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and I thought it'd be cool to document it. Cause
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you know, all these, these legends on stage, let's get it. And, um,
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as we started talking about that and I started getting
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to know them, I started realizing there's a deeper story. Um,
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and it started like really becoming evident, uh, like, Hey,
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this isn't what I would know what I thought, you know, I,
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my life from Kings of Chaos to, you know, even
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Neurotic Outsiders years ago, the Matt Sorum's other group. But
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this one was different. There was a real like brotherhood
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that they were forging. And they started like really seeing
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like they seem like a real band to me. And
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the live concert that they were starting to like become
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more of a unit. And so. I kind of, I
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went back to him saying, Hey, I know we're just
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going to shoot a concert, but what about telling the
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story of the vampires here? Because this isn't like, you know,
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originally it was, you know, a drinking club and then
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they kind of created a bar band to have fun,
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but it became much more than a bar band. And,
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and I thought there was a more interesting story there.
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That was what was kind of cool about it. We
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never set out to kind of do a documentary. That
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was never the initial, the original intention. But just like
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how the band came together organically, the kind of the
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idea to tell a story and make a documentary about it,
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that happened organically as well. So it was, you know,
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it just all unfolded on its own. And it was
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also as nice about it. We took our time and
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we kind of did it over a three year period.
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There was like no one telling us when to finish it. Right. Yeah.
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whatever happens in that time happen and whatever it's done
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is done.
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You know, you're not.
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Have some meal with all these little nuggets, like these
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little side stories. And, you know, and like, it's, it's
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even crazy, even how, like, you know, the band we
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see in the documentary, the band being kind of put together.
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It's amazing. We have that footage of the early days
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of like Alice Cooper and Johnny Depp with management and
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Bob Ezrin in Johnny Depp's kitchen discussing, Hey, are we
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going to do this? And even like, even like a
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business discussion with Johnny, like I think it was Bob
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Ezrin and, and, uh, you know, Bob and, and Shep
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were saying, Hey, you know, you can make more money
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in one week doing a movie than you can the
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entire time doing this project. And Shire was like, it's
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not about that. It's not about the money, but we
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see the band form. But then more importantly, we show, we,
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we see the band kind of morph into like being
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their own, like towards the end there by the second album,
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you know, even Bob Ezrin didn't produce the second record.
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They kind of produced it internally with Tommy. Um, And
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we kind of see them just become like this organic group,
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almost like an up and coming band, you know, like
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that hasn't had success, that doesn't have real management or whatever,
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because they kind of like they work as like a
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it's very rock and roll, right? I mean, it's just,
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we're playing together. We're just some guys who want to
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get together. We don't care about all the red tape.
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who had all this footage that you had access to?
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the Hollywood Vampires. And so I didn't make sure Alice
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was OK with doing it. And, you know, we started
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when he's sitting there writing songs with Johnny. I mean,
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fans are going to love that stuff. I mean, it's
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his archive and they keep everything. And so there was
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70s and 80s and 90s from Alice to kind of
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tell the story of how we started the vampires. And
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then we had archival producers go after stuff. But the
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stuff with them, a lot of that emanated from Tommy.
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lot of stuff. He would always walk around with a camera.
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without me there, because you really, you know, they're just
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being themselves. So if you really want to see what
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different from a narrative film where, you know, you have
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the script and you know, it's beginning, middle and end.
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shoot it. A doc comes together in the edits That's
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where the whole thing starts to come together. And I'm
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sure the initial vision, it was way different, maybe not
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way different, but different than what the end product was
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because you find all this footage or somebody says something
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in an interview and it sparks a story. And now
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we got to hone in on that. We got to
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spend three, five minutes of the doc telling that story.
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the one or two golden nuggets, if you will, for
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lack of a better term.
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they even forgot they had it, but I was like.
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you were like a pizza delivery guy or something, you
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show up and it's Johnny Depp's house and you look
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over and there's like Alice Cooper and Joe Perry and
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just this organic, amazing thing. These guys were just making
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music together in like Johnny's converted garage, which is just insane. Um,
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but the, the fact that we had all that footage, um, wow,
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that whole scene to me is like kind of the
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backbone of the film that really kind of shows what,
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what this band's all about and how they just come
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together and make music together. Um, and then, you know, um, God,
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there's so many other great moments just seeing them in
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their element.
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them is such an appeal of the movie.
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away thinking is, you knew Johnny did stuff. right people
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know johnny was musician but you know he's when you
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say johnny depp they think actor johnny depp actor and
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a great actor one of the greatest uh on screen um.
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like this guy goes like in the music.
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an actor. You know, when he moved from Kentucky to
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Florida and then Florida to L.A., it was always to
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be a rock star musician. He never intended. I mean,
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he took an acting role in Nightmare on Elm Street
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to help pay the bills. But it was always he
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still wanted to be a rock star.
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you know, but obviously when you become so well known
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for something that, you know, his acting is just so
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up here, you know, I guess a lot of people,
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it's hard to see him any other way, but hopefully
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after seeing this, he realized he's the real deal. You know, and, and,
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you know, I think, I think it comes across, you know,
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we say it without saying it, but, you know, guys
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like Joe Perry and Jeff Beck and even kind of
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Duff says it in the interview. I mean, these guys
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wouldn't go on stage without, and share a stage and share, like,
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Spallion with Johnny if he couldn't play. I mean, he's
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up there playing with the biggest and the best, and
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he's holding his own, and you really get to see
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what a real musician he is. I mean, he's the
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real deal.
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into music, oh, it's... you know, there's a bit of
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a roll your eyes, but even someone like a John Stamos,
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when he's playing drums with the Beach Boys, and then
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who plays with Sepultura and stuff, and John's friends with him,
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and I ended up going to John's house, and they'd
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have like a drum off, they're just like, John like
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just geeks out about drumming, and like he has a
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studio up in his house with all his drum sets,
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and he takes it really seriously, like And then same
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thing with Johnny. Johnny takes his playing really seriously. I mean,
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he has a studio in his house. There's guitars everywhere.
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be really surprised. But I think it's cool for Johnny
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to get the validation from guys like Joe and Jeff.
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on the road. I mean, he's holding his own with
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one of the greatest guitar players ever.
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It's crazy.
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It's insane. It's insane.
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And that's what people are going to be able to see.
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this concert film and evolving into what it did, it
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wouldn't be as interesting if the tunes weren't good.
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Do you know what I mean?
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These guys actually, they're a great group.
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They're not just like, they are a super group.
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They're a bar band, but they're great. no overproduced. I mean,
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the first album was obviously covers and then, but as
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they started writing their own music. And so that's why, like,
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you know, I started saying, I go, there's another story here.
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You guys are actually becoming like a real band. Um,
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it's no longer just this fun side thing anymore. Uh,
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like these other super groups or, you know, like as, as,
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as Alice would say, a bar band, uh, and bar
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bands don't go out and in headline arenas, uh, in Europe.
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be able to see that story morph. And, uh, And also,
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you know, I learned a lot. I mean, I've been
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around for a long time and I've done a lot
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of music docs and I work with a lot of artists,
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but you know, I wasn't that, and I was an
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Alice Cooper fan as a kid, but I wasn't aware
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of like, he was like the nucleus of a whole
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like Hollywood social scene, 70s. I mean, I joked with him.
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the guy that everybody wanted to hang out with. There's
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a funny scene towards the end of the movie where
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I'm with him in the rainbow room. And he's like,
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you know, and he was just talking about what it
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wasn't a big deal. And I'm like, it wasn't a
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big deal that he having drinks with John Lennon on
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Tuesday night. I was like, why? It's just like the
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way it is. Like, Oh yeah. Cause they were just
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regular guys. I'm like, they weren't regular guys.
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They were hanging out with the Beatles and Keith moon
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having drinks. Like that is not normal. It's just, it's not,
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it's like, but it's the way in these like, yeah, maybe.
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And I'm like, Jesus, I, you know, just incredible stories.
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just on that, but, You know, we had to get
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to the present day to, you know, to talk about.
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And another cool thing is we shot a full, I
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shot a full show at the Bach Center Wang Theater
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in Boston. So eventually that'll come out as a standalone.
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But we shot the full concert and we only have
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little segments of it in the movie. But, you know,
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I shot a full concert with 24 cameras and 4K.
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OK, those are my those are going to be two
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questions that we'll wrap on, because I know you have
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a lot going on. I appreciate your time. And again,
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we're talking about Unleashed Spirits, The Rise of the Hollywood Vampires,
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which its debut is world premiere is September the 18th
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at the Boston Wang Theater.
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That's where you're getting ready to go to.
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Two things, by the way, we've sold all over a
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thousand tickets, which is insane because, you know, movie premieres
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are like, you know, Movie theaters sold 100, 150 people.
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Even premieres usually at 400 or 500. I mean, the
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fact we're going to have probably a couple thousand people
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in a movie premiere, it's mind-boggling.
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Well, what's crazy, too, is.
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If anybody sees just a clip, just a trailer of this,
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even if you're a periphery rock and roll fan and
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you just like Hollywood intrigue of any kind, I mean,
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there's so many. This isn't just a rock doc. This
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goes out to so many kinds of people who I
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think are going to be. And that's, I think, evident
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by the great turnout you're going to have.
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seeing Ringo. and all these guys coming in to the, uh, to, to, to,
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to drink with Alice and his social club and be
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part of the quote unquote Hollywood vampires.
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It's just such an.
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A bygone era that I just wish still existed in
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some realm.
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today because of social media and stuff. I mean, they
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had anonymity, they, they had privacy. They could, they could
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sneak in and out of there nowadays with all the
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cameras and everything. I mean, it just, you know, it's
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so different. Um, I mean, what a cool thing, but
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can you just imagine back in those days, if you
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happen to get up into that crow's nest area and you,
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you look up and you see, you know, all those
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guys together, you would be like, what? You know, it just,
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it's just crazy. And, uh, you know, what a cool brotherhood.
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Like they were all super close, uh, you know, and
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they all still are. I mean, you can see it
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cause that's like the common thread. Like, you know, Alice
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has always had this friendship and brotherhood with his peers.
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and they all have a mutual respect for each other.
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So it's kind of cool that they can come together
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and make music.
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It would be just incredible to be a fly on
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the wall back then.
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I was talking to.
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Even now, I've been a fly on the wall now.
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It was, I mean- Amazing. I still picture myself. I
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work with a lot of artists, but like, you know,
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when you're around people who are kind of legends and
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icons and, you know, that you grew up watching and
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then to be in their world and just to be trusted,
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just be around them, it's pretty wild. I mean, I mean,
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picture myself, you know, I don't get nervous. I speak
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a lot in public, but I'm freaking out. I'm going
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to be on the stage with Joe and Alice and Tommy.
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Eddie Trunk is moderating it on Friday night. There's going
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to be a couple thousand people there. That's an intimidating stage.
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That stage at the Wang Center, that's where we shot
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the concert part. It's a big stage. I pinch myself
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on that stuff. I don't take it for granted. It's
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pretty cool, actually.
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Never thought you'd be in this position.
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No, no, no, no, no. I never even thought I'd
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go into entertainment, to be honest with you. I thought
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I was going to be a lawyer. But I'd say it's, yeah, yeah.
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I never take it for granted. I realize how lucky
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I am. And it's pretty cool. You know, I always say, like,
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when it comes to this project, I pinch my, like,
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16-year-old self. I remember, like, one of my most vivid
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memories of high school was my friend and I snuck
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into Aerosmith Pump Tour at Brendenburn Arena in New Jersey.
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And we snuck into the backstage tunnel. Like, we snuck
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down the ramp. And I'll never forget that. And like,
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here I am now, like, you know, I have Joe
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Perry's cell phone. It's just, it's weird.
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It's crazy, right?
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It's weird. It's so, you know, and it's, you know,
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that type of stuff just, you know, it gets you
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super excited and like appreciative to even do stuff like this.
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Oh, it's, it's always a pinch me moment.
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I agree. Sometimes when you get to meet your heroes
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and one of the things I was going to say,
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I was talking to a guy, he used to be
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a pro wrestling manager back in the day.
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Jimmy Hart is his name.
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And he was in a group called the Gentries who
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were signed to Sun Records.
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And he talked to me about, oh.
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Yeah, we'd go in Sam Phillips' studio and there's Elvis
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and Jerry Lee and they're like working on a tune.
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And I'm like, oh my gosh, I wish I.
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Was with you. To stumble into that, it's like what?
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Just to stumble into it.
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What are you talking about? Okay, when you shoot a
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concert film though, this is really what I want to
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know because you said 24 cameras, 4K. I can't imagine
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the undertaking that that truly is. It's not as simple as,
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hitting record and letting it go. I mean, the sound's
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got to be right. The crowd has to be, everything
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has to be mic'd in such a certain way. How
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gargantuan of an undertaking was that?
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Is it as difficult as I think it is?
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Fortunately for me, and I've been doing that, that's what
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I've done the most. I'm most known for my concert specials,
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you know, and I've done over 300 of them. And
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I even have the world record for the most cameras
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ever used in a live concert special. When I did
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Creed in 2009, I did 239 cameras. But You know,
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it gets a little overwhelming. I mean, like every time
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we do it, I always like pinch myself, like, how
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do we make this look so simple? But, you know,
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I have the same team. We've been working together for
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a long time. I have some people like my my
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assistant's been with me 26 years. But, you know, it's
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like rinse and repeat for us. But, you know, some
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are more complex than others on the vampires one. Uh,
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it was a pretty complex shoot. I mean, our crew
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is about a hundred people. Uh, we had a big
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53 foot TV truck there. Um, it was, you know,
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a pretty layered crew too. So we had over a
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hundred on our team and then it was a union shoot.
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So we had all the union people too. So there's probably, uh,
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160 170 people on the crew um but you know
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technically you know multi-camera is difficult but you know when
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you use the tv trucks all the cameras come into
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i have a big control room so it looks like
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i'm at norad um you know we brought in one
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of the the audio engineers for the band justin who
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was a great help because he knew the band really
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well um But yeah, I mean, you know, and we
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treat it like it's live when we do our shows. Like,
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it doesn't matter who it is. Like, we cut it
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like it's live. I call I'll actually call the show live.
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So then we come out of there with what's called
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a line cut. And then it makes our posts a
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little faster. But, you know, some shoots are more complex.
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So we just did Katy Perry in Paris and Katy
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was 60 camera angles over two nights. And that was
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done more film style with with Ari Alexa. So. that
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was actually a lot more complex because then we try
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to piece it together to make it look like one show,
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but the show, like the vampires, you can't really do
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that because they don't play to a click track. Right.
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So it would be hard to match, you know, because of.
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The rhythm, because the tempo might be a little bit different.
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And with the pop artists, when they're playing along to
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a click or whatever, you can, everything will match perfectly. Uh,
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but with rock bands, we usually just go for it.
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But I mean, we had that place covered. I mean,
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it was a tremendous amount of cameras for such a
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small room. Uh, I'm a little bit of a camera whore, though.
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I love coverage. I mean, I put cameras everywhere. So,
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you know, most people would probably would have shot that
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show with like 10 cameras. I you know, I I
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just I go crazy.
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You want you want as much as you can.
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Right. Like you want to play in the edit. Right.
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A little overkill sometimes. You know, but I take it seriously, too,
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because also it's because like these guys are legends and like, yeah.
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in a weird way when I do their concerts, I,
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I feel like I'm like in a story and like
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kind of capturing a moment in time.
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And, you know, that is what you are.
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You, you want to have as much value to it
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as possible. So 20, 30 years from now, when people
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want to look back on and learn about these guys,
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you have all the different angles and you, you know,
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have it in a certain quality level. Um, and so,
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you know, now we're shooting like, you know, we just
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did the Hillary Duff and we're shooting, we shot her
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in six K. And so, you know, now it's, it's
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heading towards eight K now it's like, you know, and,
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the biggest mess on stuff like that, you do 30
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cameras and 6k, the hard drives.
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Oh, it's like, you're talking hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
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and hundreds of gigabytes.
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Yeah.
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Terabytes. Yeah. Like, you know, you know, we, but, but
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you know, it's, um, but when I do that stuff though,
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I like doing the concert stuff to me is like
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an honor because, you know, I grew up watching concert films,
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like the last waltz and stuff like that. And, I
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know that people will be doing the same thing as kids.
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They'll be maybe discovering an artist for the first time
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by looking at one of our concert films. And so,
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you know, that's why we do so many of these things. And,
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you know, I'm hoping that many years from now, even
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after I'm dead, people look and they can see this,
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you know, this body of work and see these artists
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in their glory.
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Well, it's a part of their story. And I mean,
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this is the historical document, if you will. I mean,
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it truly is. And I think that people are going
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to love this. You know, Daniel, I really do appreciate
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your time. Congratulations on this doc and all the other
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things that you're working on.
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And hopefully we can.
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Where are you located?
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I'm in Houston. I'm in Houston, Texas.
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I knew you were in the South, but I was
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saying we're in Nashville. Our headquarters is in Nashville. And
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we're at Nashville Film Festival next week because I have
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my Frampton doc there on opening night. And then we
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have a Hazen film that we did. But we have
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two films at Nashville Film Festival next week. I was
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going to invite you. But if you want to come up.
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But you know what?
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If I find myself in Nashville, I will definitely do that.
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You know what, man?
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Like, again, I can't sing the praises of this enough. It's, again,
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Unleashed Spirits, The Rise of the Hollywood Vampires.
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Everyone can go.
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Well, not everyone can go see it. But it starts
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September 18th at the Boston Wing. And that's where people
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are going to start seeing it. And, man, again, Daniel,
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I really appreciate your time. Congratulations on this, man.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate it. Thank you, man.