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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Thanks for being here with us. And as is our case generally speaking on Mondays, there is so much to get to. We've got our friend Alex Barents and joining in the second hour of the program, going to talk to him about the real side effects, especially as it relates to heart issues from those mandatory shots that they tried to make everybody take if you remember the whole COVID thing. We've also got author god Sad will be with us. He's got a book out. Third hour, very anti woke, brilliant guy, and we'll be talking to him about his latest opus. And we've got Clay so many things here. First off, Biden has admitted, because I think the outcry was so clear and full throated from so many people, or I should say, has recorded his grandchild out of wedlock from Hunter Biden, so we can discuss how the politics shifted on that. So Joe Biden shifted on that, which is unsurprising. The mar al Lago property manager. We know that there's the possibility, seems now the high likelihood of a Trump j six indictment this week, probably tomorrow, maybe Thursday. That's what the indications are. The mar A Lago property manager who has been named in the superseding indictment that came out last week for the document's case, he has not yet entered a plea, and some are thinking that maybe they're trying to pressure him to flip, which would be the way that most federal prosecutions go. You get somebody who is involved as an accessory, and you want them to go after the big fish. We all know the big fish for the deep state here is Donald Trump and the Jack Smiths. But nothing prosecution is going to do everything they can to stack the deck against him. We've got that. We've got the latest polls showing Trump so far ahead that some are looking at the numbers saying it would be unprecedented for anyone else to come up and be able to defeat him in the primary. Just based on what the numbers are now compared to recent elections, he's up in the fifties and Clay. You also have rond DeSantis still in it, still fighting. He has a economic proposal that he put out today for essentially what the DeSantis campaign is promoting for the economy through do present. But let's jump into the big thing that we're all waiting on right now, which is more information about the Biden crime family and the realities here of Hunter Biden's business partner, Devin Archer testifying not about this is the right clay. We've said this all along, Hunters of mess Wait, we know that the Sweetheart deal, we know all that stuff. The big challenge has been or I should say the as you know line for the Libs on this one. We all know what happened there. As long as we can't tie this to Joe Biden, the political damage is limited. Well, Devin Archer is supposed to be testifying today under Oath, who was Hunter's business partner for many years. I think they went to college together, right, or law school together. They go way back. Basically, he's saying Joe Biden is up to his neck in this. That's what we are told is coming out today testimony under Oath. Will it make a difference? Klay, what do you see?
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Speaker 3: I do think it will make a big difference, and I think it will make a big difference in the context of it will directly tie Joe Biden to Hunter Biden's business activities.
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Speaker 2: Buck, have you noticed what's going on now?
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Speaker 3: As you kind of pay attention to the storylines, they're significantly trying to make the argument, well, Hunter Biden may be corrupt, this might have been a sweetheart deal. But there's absolutely nothing that connects Joe Biden to Hunter Biden. And I've been surprised by some of the media outlets that I've seen running with that allegation or that statement as if it's a statement of fact. I read it in the New York Times over the weekend. That doesn't surprise me. I read it in the Washington Post over the weekend. That doesn't surprise me. But I also read it in the Wall Street Journal. And I don't think you can say categorically even right now, so far there's been nothing to connect Joe Biden to his son Hunter's business dealings. There's lots of evidence. Now you can say there's no smoking gun evidence, maybe, but Buck, we've got just in the last couple of months, we've had the WhatsApp message, remember that where Hunter is sitting saying I am next to my dad. Right now, it's been proven that he was in his dad's home and he's saying, if you don't call me to a Chinese Communist Party official immediately, Basically, there's going to be hell to pay. We've got evidence that is going to come out today from Devon Archer, according to the New York Post, of two dozen potential phone calls that were involving Joe Biden. The Senate in the FBI statement said that there are seventeen recorded phone calls, fifteen of them Hunter Biden, two of them that are Joe Biden. There is lots of evidence surrounding the Berezma deal in what they wanted. There is Joe Biden bragging about getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired. There is lots of evidence that Joe Biden was in fact involved in Hunter's business dealings. So my hope is that the Devon Archer testimony under oathed today is going to officially obliterate the argument that Hunter and Joe Biden were not connected for purposes of business. So I'm still surprised how many people are out there in the media taking this hook line and sinker argument of oh, well, Hunter may have behaved in appropriately, but there's no connection whatsoever to Joe no, there's a lot, and I think it's going to become increasingly difficult. But after today's testimony to continue that argument of oh, they're not connected from a business imperative perspective.
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Speaker 2: I just want to remind everybody when we're looking at the way these things have gone in the past, right, because what they're going to say, I think they're their total fallback play is going to be Okay, Joe's son, he knew about it, but you know it's not illegal. Trump is under you know, it does indictments. I mean, it's crazy at this point, right, But they're just going to say, sorry, no prosecution because no illegality. And I think now obviously Hunter Biden's committed all kinds of illegality, But the way these things have gone in the past, I'm reminded that the former governor of Virginia, Bob McDonald and his wife were federal prosecutors Democrat deep Staters when they're both Republicans. Of course, went after both of them for clay one hundred and seventy thousand dollars of gifts. No official act ever taken, no quid pro quo, nothing. And I bring up the wife because she didn't even have an official role, she had no power, but just because she was attached to him obviously her husband Bob McDonald, and they got one hundred and seventy grand, which you know, for Hunter Biden, that's a rounding error from all the tax evasion that he did, and they wanted to send them to prison for many years. Now. Eventually Supreme Court stepped in. The Honest Services fraud part of this had to be thrown out because it was outrageous. But I'm just saying public corruption has been something that the Democrats when it comes to Republican are super aggressive on. If Joe Biden had a conversation with Hunter Biden where they were in any way talking about hiding the money sending it to the l that's conspiracy. Then Joe Biden is in on this. That is two people working together to violate federal law. And that's the part of this that I think that Devin Archer testimony could get to. Yeah, I think that's one hundred percent right buck. I also actually think it starts to call into question why Obama said Hillary's the pick and not Joe Biden, because that's sort of getting glossed over here. But was it possible that the Obama administration, including Barack Obama himself, saw how messy the involvement was with Ukraine. Certainly the death of Bo Biden factors in here in terms of how mentally fit Joe Biden was. But I don't think we can underrate.
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Speaker 3: And this was when Joe Biden was infinitely right, infinitely more in control of his faculties than he is now. Buck and Barack Obama, who had served with him for eight years, a heart beat away from the presidency, said something that's pretty unprecedented. Hey, the secretary of State is the better option. I'm endorsing her. And I just point this out, Buck, Barack Obama never endorsed in the twenty twenty Democrat presidential election either. Trump talks a lot about loyalty, but there's not a lot of discussion from the Biden team.
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Speaker 2: But how much more disloyal can you be? Just think about this.
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Speaker 3: You choose your secretary of state over your vice president, and then your vice president runs again, and you don't endorse him until he's already locked up the bid. That's a sign that Obama knew something was out there.
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Speaker 2: I think Buck. It also all lines up because as we've said, and I think this is so important for everyone to remember as we continue that this is going to be an evolving story. We got the Devon Archer testimony today. Remember that's Hunter, Biden's really his best friend and long term business partner, who says he needs to come forward as a civic duty. He knows that I didn't think about that. I'll be honest, if I were Devon Archer, I would be highly concerned about this because did you wouldn't say anything? Probably, to be honest, Yeah, the deep state Democrats are going to want payback for any political damage he does them. We all know that. But let's remember to your point about Hunter, and I'm sorry, Joe, and the timing of this and the Obamas and the lack of an endorsement from Barack, the way the world was going to work out from the Biden point of view, the sit in the cockpit of you know, Biden Force one in twenty fifty teen, and you know, you go back to some of when some of these deals were getting talked about and when Hunter was doing the stuff that he was doing twenty sixteen, when he said, you look at the situation, You say, Joe, Biden was basically never going to never go to run again. Yep, because Hillary was going to win for eight years. That was what Democrats believed. If you don't have Hillary losing and you don't have the laptop, I think as well. But some of our audiences pointed out too, they get away with all of this. I mean, they still may get away with it criminally, but the chance of any of this being uncovered. And it also goes to why, you know, Joe would have said, hey, look, once you leave office, man, I'm just you know, they're just paying hundred It's very hard to prove, you know, an illegal scheme here that goes to corruption if you don't have somebody who's in a position of power. Right, It's that that gets different. That's separate from the wire fraud and the tax charges. But Joe going back into office means that he's under greater scrutiny, and it means all came out. So the plan looks so stupid and reckless now is my point. But from when they were sitting they're not Bidens, are not that smart, and they're very greedy. It didn't seem crazy back when they were doing this to be doing it you know what I mean. I mean, I know you agree.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's also important to remember Hunter Biden stopped paying his taxes before his brother died, so they've tried to argue I think again to Curry's sympathy, Oh, what happened with Hunter was a direct reaction to his brother Bo dying, and he had all of the emotional baggage that came as a result. I would just point out that this all started before Bo died, and so I think the only way to tie this together is but the Biden's thought, Joe Biden thought his career was over. Barack Obama basically thought Joe Biden's career was over, and I think they decided to turn on the money spigot, never believing twenty twenty was going to be a possibility. Even in twenty twenty. It's not like people when he announced that, people thought, oh, Joe Biden's going to be the guy buck. Remember when he come in fifth and Iowa sixth in New Hampshire, I mean, he was dead in the water. If James Clyburn doesn't come out and say he's the pick, and I just think we have to contemplate put it the motive matters here. What was his thought process? And again, this Devin Archer blockbuster when it comes out the testimony is going to be very hard, I think to argue that there's not a direct connection between Joe and Hunter.
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Speaker 2: And you know one thought, Clay And we can come back and get into this a little bit more if you want, but it's just because others have brought this up with me too. When we get into how this all should be handled and what the right move has been here all along. Trump could have appointed a special counsel to look at Hillary's actions and Hillary would have had to take a plead deal and she would have been in a whole lot of trouble because she broke the law. There's no question he took I'm talking now with twenty sixteen, right, Yeah, Trump took the high road. Trump said, all you know, we'll leave it be. Remember there were all the locker up chants, but he won and for the benefit of the country. I don't think Trump gets very much credit for this. He decided we're gonna leave Hillary alone, We're gonna move past this. I have people coming to you now saying was that the right move? And does Trump think about this in terms of if he wins the next time, what's his approach going to be. I think it raises some very interesting implications, especially his face.
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Speaker 3: Great point, Buck, everybody's focused on the VP. Who Trump picks as his attorney general probably far more significant.
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Speaker 2: That's why IP is if we look at the draining of the swamp, are you going to put a brawler in that attorney general seat. We'll see, we'll get into this. My friend's Pure Talk is the cell phone service company that did something really smart at the beginning of this month. They benefited. They did something it benefits every existing Pure Talk customer, and it went a long way toward welcoming new customers. Pure Talk added data to every plan and is now including a mobile hotspot with each one, with no price increase whatsoever. The monthly price is still the same, just twenty dollars a month for unlimited talk text and now fifty percent more five G data plus mobile hotspot. Yes, twenty dollars a month. Most families are saving almost ready for this one thousand dollars a year in just pure savings, my friends, while still enjoying the most dependable five G network in America. It's great cell phone service at a reasonable price. Dial pound two to fifty, say Clay and Buck and make the switch to Puretalk. You'll save it additional fifty percent off your first month. Again, dial pound two five zero, say Clay and Buck and make this switch to my cell phone company, Puretalk.
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Speaker 1: Today, Sanity in an Insane World. The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're talking about the big news today. Devin Archer testifying Buck. I was going to mention within that context, the Justice Department stepped all over itself over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw this.
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Speaker 3: They sent out a letter on Saturday, which is rare, that was in many ways taken and I think intended as an intimidation tactic to try to let Devon Archer know that the Department of Justice was ready to bring its full weight against him. They're already talking about sentencing. In another incident, when Devon Archer was convicted of a felony, and again Hunter Biden walked, and I think that probably is motivating in many ways his decision, but it prompted an unprecedented letter on Sunday, where after a ton of reaction Buck on Saturday and I saw this on Saturday and Sunday and tweeted about it a little bit. It prompted a huge reaction from the Department of Justice to put out a letter on Sunday saying, hey, we're not trying to stop him from test defying. But the intent of the Saturday letter was clearly to intimidate. First of all, the Justice Department doesn't put out that many letters on Saturday and Sunday in the first place, so they had a flurry of I would say, discomfort surrounding what is going to be revealed in the testimony today in the next few hours.
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Speaker 2: This is the DOJ, Biden's DOJ doing witness intimidation. You know, yes, like a mob boss, that is what this was. This was you know, hey, it'd be kind of rough if something happened to you during that testimony there, buddy, you know, if maybe something comes out or maybe we got to lock you up a little longer. We all know what this is, right, This is percent right. This is like democrats having the irs and letters for audits to people that don't like Oh, you know, it's kind of a shame. Look what's happening to you, folks. We're in a very dirty fight, and that's why I think a lot of people are choosing their champion on the Republican side very early in it.
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Speaker 1: Sleeve, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines truth, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, welcome back to you. Eight one hundred two eight two two eight a two. The Oakland NAACP wrote a letter that you need to hear at least part of just slamming the city and county officials and social justice movements. This is from It's about crime, decay, fear on the streets, lack of accountability for criminals. I mean, it's pretty stunning the language that has used. And we also have a recent town hall meeting. We have a recent town hall meeting where people were, you know, describing these grievances and police are trying to respond. We'll play that for you in a moment here. But this is one of these everything that we say, everything that I tell you, everything that Clay tells you here about crime, you know it's true, and you know we're right. And even libs are figuring this out now, even the Democrat left, and really I think more than anything else, what prevents them from just doing what is necessary is they don't want to do something that's an admission that we were right, meaning the right was correct all along. But here you go from this letter, failed leadership, including the movement too defund the police are District Attorney's unwillingness to charge and prosecute people who murder and commit life threatening serious crimes and the proliferation of anti police rhetoric have created a heyday for Oakland criminals. They are asking the NAACP in Oakland is asking for a state of emergency. Clay, now, this is from a recent town hall where you have community members speaking out in law enforcement trying to address it. Let's start this and this is from one are the local TV affiliates. I'll tell you which one in a second, but play it.
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Speaker 1: A crowd of.
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Speaker 4: People outside wasn't even allowed in as Montclair Presbyterian Church was filled to capacity. The crowd inside was eager to talk of about violent crime and started interjecting as District Attorney Pamela Price try to go into a presentation about criminal justice one oh one. Some people want to know it because everybody know.
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Speaker 2: The issue.
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Speaker 5: The frustration wasn't just named at the District attorney. Captain Clayburch from the Oakland Police Department was wait, can we.
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Speaker 2: Pause it here before we get to the cabin. Clay, the district Attorney's trying to speak to a church in Oakland. There are a lot of I mean, you see the video. A lot of the people there are black, are a lot of minorities who are in the church. They won't even let her speak. Yeah, they don't want to hear the garbage that they know is going to be spewed.
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Speaker 3: This is to me, too, Buck, a perfect representation of the rich, mostly white, woke, college educated, wealthy ruling class of the Democrat telling people who live in inner city neighborhoods what's better for them based on systemic racism. And we've been making this argument for a couple of years now on this show that being concerned your two mean to criminals is a luxury of a low crime environment. And if you live in a city as many people out there listening to us right now do that have is dealing with incredible increases in crime, violent, property crime, robbery, theft, everything, you're fed up and that is I love that, Buck, because that's real on the street reaction to left wing policies on policing and on crime directly from the residents who have to deal with what loose crime, soft on crime policies actually lead to.
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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, does anyone want to guess?
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Speaker 5: Is?
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Speaker 2: I'll me to count, so which is uh? Oakland District Attorney Pamela Price, Does anyone a guess? Yes or no? Is she sorrow spacked? Was their sorrows money that elected her? Hmm, you all know the answer. I don't have to tell you the answer. But let's continue here, Clay, here's one of the cops who want to do their jobs but aren't allowed to do their jobs in Oakland.
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Speaker 5: Play it about what officers are doing to prevent crimes.
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Speaker 1: Blue.
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Speaker 2: I know your hands are tied, but you kind of be doing some prinive preventative stuff. Yes, you know you're standing here on the corner right here in mont Cliff. You can hear the fucking cars come up here.
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Speaker 1: Robins's blind, you know, I mean, you know, please about prevent not time happens.
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Speaker 5: Captain Birch try to explain how the department's hands are tied, especially when it comes to property crime.
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Speaker 2: If all we have is a burglary and my officer sees five cars being broken into, and that car takes off. We can't chase that car.
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Speaker 5: But a lot of the anger.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hold on, So just just so you're getting me there, you you heard that that gentleman again. I saw the video. It's a local TV affiliate that's a black member of the community, is basically begging law enforcement to lock up the criminals and keep everybody safe because that's their job to do preventative stuff, which means more patrols, more more stop, question and frisk.
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Speaker 3: This is what he's begging for if you listen to that question, is hey, don't just try and stop criminals after they commit crimes, which is scary. They can't even chase the guy when they see him committing crimes. Buck, He's saying, please, will you please stop question and frisk in a preventative measure to try and catch criminals before they commit violent crimes.
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Speaker 2: And that is the essence of what has to be happening. And it's so frustrating too, because any you go into any any major department, you know, well trained police department anywhere in America, and the cops on the street, they they know the areas, they know the neighborhoods, they know when people are. You know, there's a sense you get, and certainly it's in a different context, but anyone who's been out outside the wire in a battlefield also feels the same thing, where you just get these senses about what's normal what's not. The cops are able to draw upon the experience, especially if they're doing patrol day in and day out, and this is very important for keeping their community safe. I want to just let let it just go even further. Yeah, so they can't chase them. And here's more of this this town hall meeting. It's amazing.
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Speaker 5: Play it tonight was directed at crime Spreez where kids are the suspects. District Attorney Pamela Price said in a recent case there wasn't enough evidence to take a group of kids to court.
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Speaker 2: What happened after they were let go?
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Speaker 5: They probably yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 2: You have you have like you know, ladies in the crowd who are calling out this district attorney who are saying, yeah, you just let them go and now they're little monsters and they're going to attack somebody else. I mean, people are fed up. You know, these are that room clay. I'm telling you, if you looked at the party registration Oakland is a Democrat. It's like San Francisco. It's ninety percent Democrats in that room. But they're sick of living in fear, and they're sick of the Democrats, Soros back DA not doing anything about it.
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Speaker 3: Well, and that's representative I think of what's going on all over the country, and as we move towards the twenty twenty four election, I think this is why it is so incredibly important to have someone making a coojate argument on what to do with the violent crime rate in this country.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting, but that was the KPIX, which is the Bay Area CBS affiliate that did that report. And look, you know, it's good reporting. People need to see this stuff. You can basically line up Clay at this point in time, the more left wing a city, the more it has suffered in the aftermath of BLM two point zero and the George Floyd riots and everything else. There's like a direct correlation. Just line it up with DC, San France, Chicago, go down all these places. You look at, the greater the concentration of Democrat power and voters, the more degradation and decay relative to where that city was. And they say, oh, but San Francisco is still pretty safe. No, No, look at the crime rate now versus three or four years ago, and it couldn't be more clear. This has been an entirely the soft on crime approach, the permissive approach has been an entirely failed experiment of policy. And the Left was wrong. Just like they were wrong about masks, just like they were wrong about mandatory COVID vaccines, they're wrong about their crime policies too.
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Speaker 4: Yea.
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Speaker 3: And I think this is important, Buck, empathy, because that's what they would argue, we need to be more empathetic for the criminals here. Misguided empathy creates hard times for everyone. So the one group you would think that you don't need to be empathetic for. And I've done criminal law. I understand there are people who commit crimes who actually can get their lives back together again. But the idea that we're being too tough on multiple violent felons and that we're letting people who are committing and perpetrating crimes. And you know this, Buck, and all the police officers out there listening to us know this too, right now too, you mentioned it. They know the one percent of people in these communities who are committing the crimes. Ninety nine percent of people can live in peace and trying to take care of their family and everybody else. It only takes about one percent to throw everything into pure chaos.
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Speaker 2: Look, let's be honest about this too. The sorrows left of the Democrat Party, which call so many of their shots, that is so central to their policy. It upsets them that it's not more guys wearing Maga hats, yes, or right wing who are being arrested everywhere. That's really what this that's really what this ultimately does come down to for a lot of them is, you know, the greatest threat in the country to our safety and security is Trump and white supremacy, as they say, And then they're upset that there aren't more guys with Trump hats being arrested for violent crimes across the country. That's the bottom line. That's what Rashida Talib told us.
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Speaker 3: We talked about this on Friday, Buck when she said the number one threat to America as white men, and.
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Speaker 2: Barely any criticism of her at all. Do you see that on the front page of newspapers? Of course not nope, loud to say whatever she like, I said you're allowed to degrade and lie about white men, you know, as a matter of statistics or policy, as much as you want in this country now which says something, doesn't it. We'll get back into more of this. We'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two support US funded resources. Phoenix Catholarer Group invites you to invest in the heart of America with our domestic Energy or PRIT bonds. Phoenix Capital connects private investor principle with direct investments in domestic energy assets. Your venture in these US backed equities can gain up to nine to twelve percent annual interest paid monthly. It's a vote of confidence in the American dream, in the unwavering spirit that built our nation. To find out more, download the Phoenix Groups Free investment packet today at PHX on air dot com. Look. I'm an investor in the Phoenix Group myself, but investment in bonds have a certain amount of risk associated with it, and you should only invest if you can afford to bear the risk of loss. Before making investment decisions, you should carefully consider and review all risks involved. Learn how you can diversify your investments and are nine to twelve percent. Apy Download the Phoenix Groups Free Investment packet today at phx on air dot com.
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Speaker 2: Buck.
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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of talk of negativity out there about the future and where we are headed. And I saw this story from the Hill and it is the political identities of twelfth grade boys and that is the percentage identifying as liberal or conservative.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen this story yet? Nope?
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I think you're going to consider this to be a positive. So they study this going all the way back to nineteen seventy five.
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Speaker 2: Let me give you an idea.
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Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy five, twenty five percent of high school boys considered themselves liberal, and about seven seventeen percent considered themselves to be conservative, so there were substantially more liberal twelfth grade boys. And what's interesting is conservatives. Since nineteen seventy five, conservatives are surging and hitting all time highs among twelfth grade boys. In fact, twenty five percent roughly now consider themselves to be conservative, and I thought this was crazy. Liberal continues to tank in the last several years. It's now down to about thirteen percent, so a huge percentage of twelfth grade boys now are identifying as conservative. And I am fascinated by this because, of course I'm raising three boys right now, but I also am around them quite a bit, them and their friends, and it's interesting.
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Speaker 2: I think that.
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Speaker 3: Boys are overwhelmingly rejecting the woke culture that they are growing up in and rebelling in particular.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what girls are doing, right, I'm not sure what the data would reflect on girls. My inclination would be that girls have always been more liberal in the twelfth grade and women are in general vote more liberal than men. But this was an encouraging data point that basically conservative twelfth graders, again this is the story in the Hill, are now setting all time highs one of the last few years, and the number that are liberal is collapsing. Is that surprise you to encourage you? Well, I think that part of the left wing plan has been to go after more aggressively younger and younger well, issues that affect younger and younger males, specifically, whether it's toxic masculinity or also the assault on gender overall.
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Speaker 2: And I think that there's just a this stuff is incongruous with nature and with our natural selves. Right, You're you're a twelfth grade boy. You know, you've gone through puberty. Really, I mean twelfth grade, you're basically close to being in a lot of them can vote, Yeah, a lot of them are eighteen. I mean, you know, go tell an eighteen year old marine that he's you know, a boy, and you know, watch your teeth, you know, I mean, eighteen is not you know, we're not really talking about young kids here. But you know, I think part of this is the aggressive agenda of the left has has just been running up against the basic feelings that you have as you become a man, you know, and and the war on masculinity has become more and more aggressive at a younger age, and you know, the pop culture is increasingly trying to undermine that. You know, there is a you know, whether it's starting with little boys, you know, three four years old who want to play with trucks and dinosaurs. I know this from my own little nept He doesn't want to play with princess dresses. He wants to and he picks. He wants to play with trucks and dinosaurs and crash them and make a lot of noise. And my grand you know, my mom and dad, grandpa and grandma, they have to run around and chase him, and he's, you know, a little little crazy man. And my friends who have girls who are that age, they say, it's a very different situation that continues. And by the time you're eighteen, unless you've been so fully indoctrinated, you recognize that what the left is pushing is contrary to your basic masculine nature.
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Speaker 3: I agree with that one hundred percent. I also Buck would build on it. This makes why Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson. I think they represent different aspects of the masculine id, But why all three of those guys are so incredibly popular on YouTube? Obviously, there's a big gap between Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tait, but I would say what connects them is discussing traditional notions of masculinity and how to be a man. I think that young boys rising into twelfth grade, when I see this data, are recognizing that they're being sold a bill of goods and that much of what they're being told is not real, and they're rejecting it.
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Speaker 2: I take it as an incredibly encouraging sign. I'm encouraged by it too. There's other data out there that you know, some college classes, half of the class practically now says they're LGBTQIA plus and they use terms like cisgender and everything else. So you know, I don't know whose data sets are more indicative of where things are going. But at the end of the day, if you believe boys are boys and girls are girls and there's a difference between the two, you find yourself becoming more conservative and right wing over time, and that is through our advantage.
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Speaker 3: New York Times pull out Republican primary today. What does it tell us where we headed? We'll tell you next
Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Thanks for being here with us. And as is our case generally speaking on Mondays, there is so much to get to. We've got our friend Alex Barents and joining in the second hour of the program, going to talk to him about the real side effects, especially as it relates to heart issues from those mandatory shots that they tried to make everybody take if you remember the whole COVID thing. We've also got author god Sad will be with us. He's got a book out. Third hour, very anti woke, brilliant guy, and we'll be talking to him about his latest opus. And we've got Clay so many things here. First off, Biden has admitted, because I think the outcry was so clear and full throated from so many people, or I should say, has recorded his grandchild out of wedlock from Hunter Biden, so we can discuss how the politics shifted on that. So Joe Biden shifted on that, which is unsurprising. The mar al Lago property manager. We know that there's the possibility, seems now the high likelihood of a Trump j six indictment this week, probably tomorrow, maybe Thursday. That's what the indications are. The mar A Lago property manager who has been named in the superseding indictment that came out last week for the document's case, he has not yet entered a plea, and some are thinking that maybe they're trying to pressure him to flip, which would be the way that most federal prosecutions go. You get somebody who is involved as an accessory, and you want them to go after the big fish. We all know the big fish for the deep state here is Donald Trump and the Jack Smiths. But nothing prosecution is going to do everything they can to stack the deck against him. We've got that. We've got the latest polls showing Trump so far ahead that some are looking at the numbers saying it would be unprecedented for anyone else to come up and be able to defeat him in the primary. Just based on what the numbers are now compared to recent elections, he's up in the fifties and Clay. You also have rond DeSantis still in it, still fighting. He has a economic proposal that he put out today for essentially what the DeSantis campaign is promoting for the economy through do present. But let's jump into the big thing that we're all waiting on right now, which is more information about the Biden crime family and the realities here of Hunter Biden's business partner, Devin Archer testifying not about this is the right clay. We've said this all along, Hunters of mess Wait, we know that the Sweetheart deal, we know all that stuff. The big challenge has been or I should say the as you know line for the Libs on this one. We all know what happened there. As long as we can't tie this to Joe Biden, the political damage is limited. Well, Devin Archer is supposed to be testifying today under Oath, who was Hunter's business partner for many years. I think they went to college together, right, or law school together. They go way back. Basically, he's saying Joe Biden is up to his neck in this. That's what we are told is coming out today testimony under Oath. Will it make a difference? Klay, what do you see?
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Speaker 3: I do think it will make a big difference, and I think it will make a big difference in the context of it will directly tie Joe Biden to Hunter Biden's business activities.
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Speaker 2: Buck, have you noticed what's going on now?
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Speaker 3: As you kind of pay attention to the storylines, they're significantly trying to make the argument, well, Hunter Biden may be corrupt, this might have been a sweetheart deal. But there's absolutely nothing that connects Joe Biden to Hunter Biden. And I've been surprised by some of the media outlets that I've seen running with that allegation or that statement as if it's a statement of fact. I read it in the New York Times over the weekend. That doesn't surprise me. I read it in the Washington Post over the weekend. That doesn't surprise me. But I also read it in the Wall Street Journal. And I don't think you can say categorically even right now, so far there's been nothing to connect Joe Biden to his son Hunter's business dealings. There's lots of evidence. Now you can say there's no smoking gun evidence, maybe, but Buck, we've got just in the last couple of months, we've had the WhatsApp message, remember that where Hunter is sitting saying I am next to my dad. Right now, it's been proven that he was in his dad's home and he's saying, if you don't call me to a Chinese Communist Party official immediately, Basically, there's going to be hell to pay. We've got evidence that is going to come out today from Devon Archer, according to the New York Post, of two dozen potential phone calls that were involving Joe Biden. The Senate in the FBI statement said that there are seventeen recorded phone calls, fifteen of them Hunter Biden, two of them that are Joe Biden. There is lots of evidence surrounding the Berezma deal in what they wanted. There is Joe Biden bragging about getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired. There is lots of evidence that Joe Biden was in fact involved in Hunter's business dealings. So my hope is that the Devon Archer testimony under oathed today is going to officially obliterate the argument that Hunter and Joe Biden were not connected for purposes of business. So I'm still surprised how many people are out there in the media taking this hook line and sinker argument of oh, well, Hunter may have behaved in appropriately, but there's no connection whatsoever to Joe no, there's a lot, and I think it's going to become increasingly difficult. But after today's testimony to continue that argument of oh, they're not connected from a business imperative perspective.
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Speaker 2: I just want to remind everybody when we're looking at the way these things have gone in the past, right, because what they're going to say, I think they're their total fallback play is going to be Okay, Joe's son, he knew about it, but you know it's not illegal. Trump is under you know, it does indictments. I mean, it's crazy at this point, right, But they're just going to say, sorry, no prosecution because no illegality. And I think now obviously Hunter Biden's committed all kinds of illegality, But the way these things have gone in the past, I'm reminded that the former governor of Virginia, Bob McDonald and his wife were federal prosecutors Democrat deep Staters when they're both Republicans. Of course, went after both of them for clay one hundred and seventy thousand dollars of gifts. No official act ever taken, no quid pro quo, nothing. And I bring up the wife because she didn't even have an official role, she had no power, but just because she was attached to him obviously her husband Bob McDonald, and they got one hundred and seventy grand, which you know, for Hunter Biden, that's a rounding error from all the tax evasion that he did, and they wanted to send them to prison for many years. Now. Eventually Supreme Court stepped in. The Honest Services fraud part of this had to be thrown out because it was outrageous. But I'm just saying public corruption has been something that the Democrats when it comes to Republican are super aggressive on. If Joe Biden had a conversation with Hunter Biden where they were in any way talking about hiding the money sending it to the l that's conspiracy. Then Joe Biden is in on this. That is two people working together to violate federal law. And that's the part of this that I think that Devin Archer testimony could get to. Yeah, I think that's one hundred percent right buck. I also actually think it starts to call into question why Obama said Hillary's the pick and not Joe Biden, because that's sort of getting glossed over here. But was it possible that the Obama administration, including Barack Obama himself, saw how messy the involvement was with Ukraine. Certainly the death of Bo Biden factors in here in terms of how mentally fit Joe Biden was. But I don't think we can underrate.
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Speaker 3: And this was when Joe Biden was infinitely right, infinitely more in control of his faculties than he is now. Buck and Barack Obama, who had served with him for eight years, a heart beat away from the presidency, said something that's pretty unprecedented. Hey, the secretary of State is the better option. I'm endorsing her. And I just point this out, Buck, Barack Obama never endorsed in the twenty twenty Democrat presidential election either. Trump talks a lot about loyalty, but there's not a lot of discussion from the Biden team.
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Speaker 2: But how much more disloyal can you be? Just think about this.
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Speaker 3: You choose your secretary of state over your vice president, and then your vice president runs again, and you don't endorse him until he's already locked up the bid. That's a sign that Obama knew something was out there.
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Speaker 2: I think Buck. It also all lines up because as we've said, and I think this is so important for everyone to remember as we continue that this is going to be an evolving story. We got the Devon Archer testimony today. Remember that's Hunter, Biden's really his best friend and long term business partner, who says he needs to come forward as a civic duty. He knows that I didn't think about that. I'll be honest, if I were Devon Archer, I would be highly concerned about this because did you wouldn't say anything? Probably, to be honest, Yeah, the deep state Democrats are going to want payback for any political damage he does them. We all know that. But let's remember to your point about Hunter, and I'm sorry, Joe, and the timing of this and the Obamas and the lack of an endorsement from Barack, the way the world was going to work out from the Biden point of view, the sit in the cockpit of you know, Biden Force one in twenty fifty teen, and you know, you go back to some of when some of these deals were getting talked about and when Hunter was doing the stuff that he was doing twenty sixteen, when he said, you look at the situation, You say, Joe, Biden was basically never going to never go to run again. Yep, because Hillary was going to win for eight years. That was what Democrats believed. If you don't have Hillary losing and you don't have the laptop, I think as well. But some of our audiences pointed out too, they get away with all of this. I mean, they still may get away with it criminally, but the chance of any of this being uncovered. And it also goes to why, you know, Joe would have said, hey, look, once you leave office, man, I'm just you know, they're just paying hundred It's very hard to prove, you know, an illegal scheme here that goes to corruption if you don't have somebody who's in a position of power. Right, It's that that gets different. That's separate from the wire fraud and the tax charges. But Joe going back into office means that he's under greater scrutiny, and it means all came out. So the plan looks so stupid and reckless now is my point. But from when they were sitting they're not Bidens, are not that smart, and they're very greedy. It didn't seem crazy back when they were doing this to be doing it you know what I mean. I mean, I know you agree.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's also important to remember Hunter Biden stopped paying his taxes before his brother died, so they've tried to argue I think again to Curry's sympathy, Oh, what happened with Hunter was a direct reaction to his brother Bo dying, and he had all of the emotional baggage that came as a result. I would just point out that this all started before Bo died, and so I think the only way to tie this together is but the Biden's thought, Joe Biden thought his career was over. Barack Obama basically thought Joe Biden's career was over, and I think they decided to turn on the money spigot, never believing twenty twenty was going to be a possibility. Even in twenty twenty. It's not like people when he announced that, people thought, oh, Joe Biden's going to be the guy buck. Remember when he come in fifth and Iowa sixth in New Hampshire, I mean, he was dead in the water. If James Clyburn doesn't come out and say he's the pick, and I just think we have to contemplate put it the motive matters here. What was his thought process? And again, this Devin Archer blockbuster when it comes out the testimony is going to be very hard, I think to argue that there's not a direct connection between Joe and Hunter.
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Speaker 2: And you know one thought, Clay And we can come back and get into this a little bit more if you want, but it's just because others have brought this up with me too. When we get into how this all should be handled and what the right move has been here all along. Trump could have appointed a special counsel to look at Hillary's actions and Hillary would have had to take a plead deal and she would have been in a whole lot of trouble because she broke the law. There's no question he took I'm talking now with twenty sixteen, right, Yeah, Trump took the high road. Trump said, all you know, we'll leave it be. Remember there were all the locker up chants, but he won and for the benefit of the country. I don't think Trump gets very much credit for this. He decided we're gonna leave Hillary alone, We're gonna move past this. I have people coming to you now saying was that the right move? And does Trump think about this in terms of if he wins the next time, what's his approach going to be. I think it raises some very interesting implications, especially his face.
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Speaker 3: Great point, Buck, everybody's focused on the VP. Who Trump picks as his attorney general probably far more significant.
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Speaker 2: That's why IP is if we look at the draining of the swamp, are you going to put a brawler in that attorney general seat. We'll see, we'll get into this. My friend's Pure Talk is the cell phone service company that did something really smart at the beginning of this month. They benefited. They did something it benefits every existing Pure Talk customer, and it went a long way toward welcoming new customers. Pure Talk added data to every plan and is now including a mobile hotspot with each one, with no price increase whatsoever. The monthly price is still the same, just twenty dollars a month for unlimited talk text and now fifty percent more five G data plus mobile hotspot. Yes, twenty dollars a month. Most families are saving almost ready for this one thousand dollars a year in just pure savings, my friends, while still enjoying the most dependable five G network in America. It's great cell phone service at a reasonable price. Dial pound two to fifty, say Clay and Buck and make the switch to Puretalk. You'll save it additional fifty percent off your first month. Again, dial pound two five zero, say Clay and Buck and make this switch to my cell phone company, Puretalk.
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Speaker 1: Today, Sanity in an Insane World. The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're talking about the big news today. Devin Archer testifying Buck. I was going to mention within that context, the Justice Department stepped all over itself over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw this.
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Speaker 3: They sent out a letter on Saturday, which is rare, that was in many ways taken and I think intended as an intimidation tactic to try to let Devon Archer know that the Department of Justice was ready to bring its full weight against him. They're already talking about sentencing. In another incident, when Devon Archer was convicted of a felony, and again Hunter Biden walked, and I think that probably is motivating in many ways his decision, but it prompted an unprecedented letter on Sunday, where after a ton of reaction Buck on Saturday and I saw this on Saturday and Sunday and tweeted about it a little bit. It prompted a huge reaction from the Department of Justice to put out a letter on Sunday saying, hey, we're not trying to stop him from test defying. But the intent of the Saturday letter was clearly to intimidate. First of all, the Justice Department doesn't put out that many letters on Saturday and Sunday in the first place, so they had a flurry of I would say, discomfort surrounding what is going to be revealed in the testimony today in the next few hours.
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Speaker 2: This is the DOJ, Biden's DOJ doing witness intimidation. You know, yes, like a mob boss, that is what this was. This was you know, hey, it'd be kind of rough if something happened to you during that testimony there, buddy, you know, if maybe something comes out or maybe we got to lock you up a little longer. We all know what this is, right, This is percent right. This is like democrats having the irs and letters for audits to people that don't like Oh, you know, it's kind of a shame. Look what's happening to you, folks. We're in a very dirty fight, and that's why I think a lot of people are choosing their champion on the Republican side very early in it.
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Speaker 1: Sleeve, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines truth, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, welcome back to you. Eight one hundred two eight two two eight a two. The Oakland NAACP wrote a letter that you need to hear at least part of just slamming the city and county officials and social justice movements. This is from It's about crime, decay, fear on the streets, lack of accountability for criminals. I mean, it's pretty stunning the language that has used. And we also have a recent town hall meeting. We have a recent town hall meeting where people were, you know, describing these grievances and police are trying to respond. We'll play that for you in a moment here. But this is one of these everything that we say, everything that I tell you, everything that Clay tells you here about crime, you know it's true, and you know we're right. And even libs are figuring this out now, even the Democrat left, and really I think more than anything else, what prevents them from just doing what is necessary is they don't want to do something that's an admission that we were right, meaning the right was correct all along. But here you go from this letter, failed leadership, including the movement too defund the police are District Attorney's unwillingness to charge and prosecute people who murder and commit life threatening serious crimes and the proliferation of anti police rhetoric have created a heyday for Oakland criminals. They are asking the NAACP in Oakland is asking for a state of emergency. Clay, now, this is from a recent town hall where you have community members speaking out in law enforcement trying to address it. Let's start this and this is from one are the local TV affiliates. I'll tell you which one in a second, but play it.
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Speaker 1: A crowd of.
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Speaker 4: People outside wasn't even allowed in as Montclair Presbyterian Church was filled to capacity. The crowd inside was eager to talk of about violent crime and started interjecting as District Attorney Pamela Price try to go into a presentation about criminal justice one oh one. Some people want to know it because everybody know.
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Speaker 2: The issue.
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Speaker 5: The frustration wasn't just named at the District attorney. Captain Clayburch from the Oakland Police Department was wait, can we.
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Speaker 2: Pause it here before we get to the cabin. Clay, the district Attorney's trying to speak to a church in Oakland. There are a lot of I mean, you see the video. A lot of the people there are black, are a lot of minorities who are in the church. They won't even let her speak. Yeah, they don't want to hear the garbage that they know is going to be spewed.
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Speaker 3: This is to me, too, Buck, a perfect representation of the rich, mostly white, woke, college educated, wealthy ruling class of the Democrat telling people who live in inner city neighborhoods what's better for them based on systemic racism. And we've been making this argument for a couple of years now on this show that being concerned your two mean to criminals is a luxury of a low crime environment. And if you live in a city as many people out there listening to us right now do that have is dealing with incredible increases in crime, violent, property crime, robbery, theft, everything, you're fed up and that is I love that, Buck, because that's real on the street reaction to left wing policies on policing and on crime directly from the residents who have to deal with what loose crime, soft on crime policies actually lead to.
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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, does anyone want to guess?
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Speaker 5: Is?
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Speaker 2: I'll me to count, so which is uh? Oakland District Attorney Pamela Price, Does anyone a guess? Yes or no? Is she sorrow spacked? Was their sorrows money that elected her? Hmm, you all know the answer. I don't have to tell you the answer. But let's continue here, Clay, here's one of the cops who want to do their jobs but aren't allowed to do their jobs in Oakland.
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Speaker 5: Play it about what officers are doing to prevent crimes.
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Speaker 1: Blue.
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Speaker 2: I know your hands are tied, but you kind of be doing some prinive preventative stuff. Yes, you know you're standing here on the corner right here in mont Cliff. You can hear the fucking cars come up here.
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Speaker 1: Robins's blind, you know, I mean, you know, please about prevent not time happens.
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Speaker 5: Captain Birch try to explain how the department's hands are tied, especially when it comes to property crime.
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Speaker 2: If all we have is a burglary and my officer sees five cars being broken into, and that car takes off. We can't chase that car.
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Speaker 5: But a lot of the anger.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hold on, So just just so you're getting me there, you you heard that that gentleman again. I saw the video. It's a local TV affiliate that's a black member of the community, is basically begging law enforcement to lock up the criminals and keep everybody safe because that's their job to do preventative stuff, which means more patrols, more more stop, question and frisk.
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Speaker 3: This is what he's begging for if you listen to that question, is hey, don't just try and stop criminals after they commit crimes, which is scary. They can't even chase the guy when they see him committing crimes. Buck, He's saying, please, will you please stop question and frisk in a preventative measure to try and catch criminals before they commit violent crimes.
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Speaker 2: And that is the essence of what has to be happening. And it's so frustrating too, because any you go into any any major department, you know, well trained police department anywhere in America, and the cops on the street, they they know the areas, they know the neighborhoods, they know when people are. You know, there's a sense you get, and certainly it's in a different context, but anyone who's been out outside the wire in a battlefield also feels the same thing, where you just get these senses about what's normal what's not. The cops are able to draw upon the experience, especially if they're doing patrol day in and day out, and this is very important for keeping their community safe. I want to just let let it just go even further. Yeah, so they can't chase them. And here's more of this this town hall meeting. It's amazing.
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Speaker 5: Play it tonight was directed at crime Spreez where kids are the suspects. District Attorney Pamela Price said in a recent case there wasn't enough evidence to take a group of kids to court.
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Speaker 2: What happened after they were let go?
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Speaker 5: They probably yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 2: You have you have like you know, ladies in the crowd who are calling out this district attorney who are saying, yeah, you just let them go and now they're little monsters and they're going to attack somebody else. I mean, people are fed up. You know, these are that room clay. I'm telling you, if you looked at the party registration Oakland is a Democrat. It's like San Francisco. It's ninety percent Democrats in that room. But they're sick of living in fear, and they're sick of the Democrats, Soros back DA not doing anything about it.
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Speaker 3: Well, and that's representative I think of what's going on all over the country, and as we move towards the twenty twenty four election, I think this is why it is so incredibly important to have someone making a coojate argument on what to do with the violent crime rate in this country.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting, but that was the KPIX, which is the Bay Area CBS affiliate that did that report. And look, you know, it's good reporting. People need to see this stuff. You can basically line up Clay at this point in time, the more left wing a city, the more it has suffered in the aftermath of BLM two point zero and the George Floyd riots and everything else. There's like a direct correlation. Just line it up with DC, San France, Chicago, go down all these places. You look at, the greater the concentration of Democrat power and voters, the more degradation and decay relative to where that city was. And they say, oh, but San Francisco is still pretty safe. No, No, look at the crime rate now versus three or four years ago, and it couldn't be more clear. This has been an entirely the soft on crime approach, the permissive approach has been an entirely failed experiment of policy. And the Left was wrong. Just like they were wrong about masks, just like they were wrong about mandatory COVID vaccines, they're wrong about their crime policies too.
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Speaker 4: Yea.
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Speaker 3: And I think this is important, Buck, empathy, because that's what they would argue, we need to be more empathetic for the criminals here. Misguided empathy creates hard times for everyone. So the one group you would think that you don't need to be empathetic for. And I've done criminal law. I understand there are people who commit crimes who actually can get their lives back together again. But the idea that we're being too tough on multiple violent felons and that we're letting people who are committing and perpetrating crimes. And you know this, Buck, and all the police officers out there listening to us know this too, right now too, you mentioned it. They know the one percent of people in these communities who are committing the crimes. Ninety nine percent of people can live in peace and trying to take care of their family and everybody else. It only takes about one percent to throw everything into pure chaos.
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Speaker 2: Look, let's be honest about this too. The sorrows left of the Democrat Party, which call so many of their shots, that is so central to their policy. It upsets them that it's not more guys wearing Maga hats, yes, or right wing who are being arrested everywhere. That's really what this that's really what this ultimately does come down to for a lot of them is, you know, the greatest threat in the country to our safety and security is Trump and white supremacy, as they say, And then they're upset that there aren't more guys with Trump hats being arrested for violent crimes across the country. That's the bottom line. That's what Rashida Talib told us.
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Speaker 3: We talked about this on Friday, Buck when she said the number one threat to America as white men, and.
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Speaker 2: Barely any criticism of her at all. Do you see that on the front page of newspapers? Of course not nope, loud to say whatever she like, I said you're allowed to degrade and lie about white men, you know, as a matter of statistics or policy, as much as you want in this country now which says something, doesn't it. We'll get back into more of this. We'll take some of your calls. Eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two support US funded resources. Phoenix Catholarer Group invites you to invest in the heart of America with our domestic Energy or PRIT bonds. Phoenix Capital connects private investor principle with direct investments in domestic energy assets. Your venture in these US backed equities can gain up to nine to twelve percent annual interest paid monthly. It's a vote of confidence in the American dream, in the unwavering spirit that built our nation. To find out more, download the Phoenix Groups Free investment packet today at PHX on air dot com. Look. I'm an investor in the Phoenix Group myself, but investment in bonds have a certain amount of risk associated with it, and you should only invest if you can afford to bear the risk of loss. Before making investment decisions, you should carefully consider and review all risks involved. Learn how you can diversify your investments and are nine to twelve percent. Apy Download the Phoenix Groups Free Investment packet today at phx on air dot com.
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Speaker 2: Buck.
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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of talk of negativity out there about the future and where we are headed. And I saw this story from the Hill and it is the political identities of twelfth grade boys and that is the percentage identifying as liberal or conservative.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen this story yet? Nope?
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I think you're going to consider this to be a positive. So they study this going all the way back to nineteen seventy five.
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Speaker 2: Let me give you an idea.
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Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy five, twenty five percent of high school boys considered themselves liberal, and about seven seventeen percent considered themselves to be conservative, so there were substantially more liberal twelfth grade boys. And what's interesting is conservatives. Since nineteen seventy five, conservatives are surging and hitting all time highs among twelfth grade boys. In fact, twenty five percent roughly now consider themselves to be conservative, and I thought this was crazy. Liberal continues to tank in the last several years. It's now down to about thirteen percent, so a huge percentage of twelfth grade boys now are identifying as conservative. And I am fascinated by this because, of course I'm raising three boys right now, but I also am around them quite a bit, them and their friends, and it's interesting.
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Speaker 2: I think that.
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Speaker 3: Boys are overwhelmingly rejecting the woke culture that they are growing up in and rebelling in particular.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what girls are doing, right, I'm not sure what the data would reflect on girls. My inclination would be that girls have always been more liberal in the twelfth grade and women are in general vote more liberal than men. But this was an encouraging data point that basically conservative twelfth graders, again this is the story in the Hill, are now setting all time highs one of the last few years, and the number that are liberal is collapsing. Is that surprise you to encourage you? Well, I think that part of the left wing plan has been to go after more aggressively younger and younger well, issues that affect younger and younger males, specifically, whether it's toxic masculinity or also the assault on gender overall.
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Speaker 2: And I think that there's just a this stuff is incongruous with nature and with our natural selves. Right, You're you're a twelfth grade boy. You know, you've gone through puberty. Really, I mean twelfth grade, you're basically close to being in a lot of them can vote, Yeah, a lot of them are eighteen. I mean, you know, go tell an eighteen year old marine that he's you know, a boy, and you know, watch your teeth, you know, I mean, eighteen is not you know, we're not really talking about young kids here. But you know, I think part of this is the aggressive agenda of the left has has just been running up against the basic feelings that you have as you become a man, you know, and and the war on masculinity has become more and more aggressive at a younger age, and you know, the pop culture is increasingly trying to undermine that. You know, there is a you know, whether it's starting with little boys, you know, three four years old who want to play with trucks and dinosaurs. I know this from my own little nept He doesn't want to play with princess dresses. He wants to and he picks. He wants to play with trucks and dinosaurs and crash them and make a lot of noise. And my grand you know, my mom and dad, grandpa and grandma, they have to run around and chase him, and he's, you know, a little little crazy man. And my friends who have girls who are that age, they say, it's a very different situation that continues. And by the time you're eighteen, unless you've been so fully indoctrinated, you recognize that what the left is pushing is contrary to your basic masculine nature.
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Speaker 3: I agree with that one hundred percent. I also Buck would build on it. This makes why Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson. I think they represent different aspects of the masculine id, But why all three of those guys are so incredibly popular on YouTube? Obviously, there's a big gap between Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tait, but I would say what connects them is discussing traditional notions of masculinity and how to be a man. I think that young boys rising into twelfth grade, when I see this data, are recognizing that they're being sold a bill of goods and that much of what they're being told is not real, and they're rejecting it.
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Speaker 2: I take it as an incredibly encouraging sign. I'm encouraged by it too. There's other data out there that you know, some college classes, half of the class practically now says they're LGBTQIA plus and they use terms like cisgender and everything else. So you know, I don't know whose data sets are more indicative of where things are going. But at the end of the day, if you believe boys are boys and girls are girls and there's a difference between the two, you find yourself becoming more conservative and right wing over time, and that is through our advantage.
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Speaker 3: New York Times pull out Republican primary today. What does it tell us where we headed? We'll tell you next
