Propstore Super Auction Preview 2024

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Now the Cape Wonders Superman Podcast with Jay Towers and
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Jim Bowers on Iinheart Radio. Well, welcome to a special
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edition of the Cape wonder Superman Podcast. Jay Towers in Detroit,
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Jim Bowers just outside of Las Vegas, and Jim. We're
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excited because as always we get a special sneak peek
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of some of the great Superman items that this year's
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Prop Store auction from London, which is happening November fourteenth
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through the seventeenth.
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We are so lucky to get this opportunity once again, Steven,
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to see some fantastic pieces, and the beautiful thing about
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prop stories you never know what they're going to reveal
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to the world. So once again we've got quite a
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selection of items here that are so exciting.
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I ah, yeah, I know you're sure. It's lovely to
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see you guys again. Thank you very much for having
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me back on your show. I always enjoy pegment. You
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guys are so passionate and I know how much you
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love this stuff and love the movies, so it's a
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really really fun chat.
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Yeah.
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I mean, well you'd like to talk about first, Let's
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have this one, and we know.
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You probably often think of us throughout the year, every
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type I think Superman comes across your desk.
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You know it. You know, we've had some years where
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it's just been you know, monumental, you know, from four
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outfits down, and it's tough. You know, has this stuff.
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I mean, let's just talk about that for just a beat.
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You know, it's fascinating because collectors who acquire this sort
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of content these days, they're not reselling it, they're always
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passionate about it as well. So you know, as we're
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digging down into all those last resources of sources, of
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people who worked within the industry, worked on the film,
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had things handed down to them. Over the years, it
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gets thinner and thinner, and you have to sort of
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wait for that cycle where perhaps collectors get to the
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point where they're you know, they're moving in or they've
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got to changing lifestyle or something along those lines, and
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where we might get a big collection together again. But
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material from this era is really really tough to find.
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It is, and it continues to grow in popularity, and
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I think the really pad it fans and collectors are
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looking for those unique, more unique items like some of
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the items you have today, like Lex Luthor's cravat, for instance,
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that's just a year ago you had his cuff links,
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and now you've got his cravat.
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I know, it's great, isn't it. I mean, it's it's
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I mean, let's just have a look at it in
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close up here. I believe it's very light, delicates lot
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nor pot. Perhaps it's probably silk actually upside down, because
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I think if you turn it over this way and
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have a look at the design there. In a similar way,
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by recollection, the touff links had that sort of L
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letter insignia within it, we haven't there as well within
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the cravat as well. Now I don't know how clearly
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you actually see that on screen, because I should think
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once this is tied into a prolat shape, it's actually
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probably going to be quite difficult to determine that this
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has definitely got to be a design feature. I mean,
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and you've got to you know, look how distinctive these
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l's are that you see competing throughout it.
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Oh. Absolutely, And the cuff links a year ago had
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the two l's which were very obvious. And of course
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his purple and green robe that Otis puts on him
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in the pool has two l's and so they really
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the attention to detail in the wardrobe department was just phenomenal.
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And here we have another example of how it all
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ties together. But if I may this Forravat was worn
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in two scenes in Superman the Movie, one of them
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being a cut scene that we finally got to see
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in widescreen in twenty seventeen on Blu ray, and that's
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the scene where he's playing the piano in his lair
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as he commands Otis to lower Miss Testmacher into the
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pit because she saved Superman, and he's singing you must
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have been a Beautiful Baby, which is a nineteen thirty
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eight song the year Superman was revealed to the world.
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We see him taken to prison with Otis. Of course,
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in that last scene in Superman the Movie where Superman
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with them and he reveals that he's bald to the wardens.
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So the two key scenes this has featured in.
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And if I remember writing, wasn't that that same piano sequence,
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the sequence one of the scenes that you saw the
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puffling sin as well. I mean, we're going back, yeah,
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it is right, yeah.
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Seem while he's playing the piano, you see them and
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when he leans on the piano after Superman, of course
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saves miss test markers, so they're very obvious once he
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pulls his jacket sleeves back.
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We tend to see every couple of years we see
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crystals come up, and they're always so unique, and they're
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always so different.
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They are. Yeah, I know, you're absolutely right. I think
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the thing about the crystals is it is one of
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those things that almost certainly at the end of production
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they were just they would have been scrapping everything, they
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would have been putting everything into skips, into the trash
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ben and these are the sort of things that have
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just made it home with through numbers as mementos. So
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we do see a reasonable frequency with these coming back
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or coming to market for the first time. But as
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you say, so the way that the set was designed,
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of course we do see variations on them. And what's
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interesting I think about this one here at the bottom,
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is especially if I put my white gloves behind it
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and then we can get it on camera. The but
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you really got some coloration there, you know, some green
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through that avenue which perhaps wouldn't be so apparent just
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I don't know, just just in normal light. But it's
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it's this one is sort of a double ended facet
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to it as well, so it is completely finished at
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both ends. And I do wonder if something like this
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had something more of a practical purpose to it. You know,
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the technology that they were using at the time to
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actually create the green kryptonite restall the lean crypto restore
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the of course Clark Kent throws into the ice field.
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You know, that was quite complex at that time. Actually
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dying a for lick was a really difficult thing, and
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in fact that that particular process I don't believe it
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is even something that can be done today because of
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the chemicals that we used during the leriums. So it
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is really it's fascinating for me to see this sort
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of green here. You know, I wonder whether this could
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have been something that was also being used as a
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test piece just to see what green colors they could
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get within the cheracrlic rods.
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Right. They may have wanted to do the dying on
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the crystals just so they had some in camera color
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rather than having to do optical effects later on. I
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tend to think this was used in the fortress more
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than krypton.
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Yeah, I mean, I think these are wonderful and look
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you're getting four pieces there maybe for a couple of
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thousand dollars. You know, maybe a couple of or two
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or three Superman collectors could get together and split the
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sets or something along those lines. So in grand scheme
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of things, you know, if you're looking at a piece
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of Fortress of Solitude, maybe for one thousand dollars, or
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you know, if you're splitting it on, it's really quite
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reasonably price electable by comparison to you know, it's all relative,
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isn't it? Right within content?
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I think that's one of the largest you've ever offered.
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Is it something you recommend? It's interesting you said that
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a minute ago about collectors getting together, because you know,
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we always under it. Is it something that the prop
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store encourages. Do they frown upon? I mean, a couple
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of years ago, rather than bidding against friends, a couple
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of us went and said, hey, listen, we all want
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a Mark Pillow nuclear Man tunic. And you had a
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bunch of them in an auction, and we all kind
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of agreed, Hey, let's get them and then we'll worry
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about it later.
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And we did, Oh that's brilliant. Well, I love that.
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I mean, at the end of the day that the
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passion and the enjoyment, the strategizing around any auction, the preparation.
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It's all part of the fun, isn't it. It's all
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part of the engagement. And I think if you can
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do that with a degree ofmaraderie, often that's quite difficult
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because you know, say, for example, with the cravat, we
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only have one. It's the only one we've ever offered.
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If somebody, you know, if two people want that, then
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there's no way to split that. So no, I think
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I think it's great. I think that works really well,
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and I love hearing stories about that exactly.
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And I think that that may also apply to these
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these three beautiful autographs that you have here.
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Yes, so allers are set together. So we have a
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ten eight which is signed. Just the top. I'm going
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to just turn that around a camera, so maybe it's
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a little bit clearer for us. There there we go,
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lovely shot, reasonable conditions, still really nice consistency to the
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color of the ink there on the top of it,
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which is which is great to see because obviously a
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big consideration with inks as they sort of get to
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this sort of age, and especially it's pretty much depend
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upon how they've been treated over the years, but you know,
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light UV can be really damaging for auce graphs like that.
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But this, this kind of is consistently strong there, and
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it indicates to me that it hasn't been framed on
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a wall in somebody's study or anything like that, or
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on a house where you might really see some some
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color loss there. And then we have a couple more
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down in front. So this is one set together. And obviously,
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and I don't know the exact story to where the
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consigner where there's have specifically come from, but it's certainly
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come from a Christopher at some point, and it's, you know,
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from one prisciper to another Principer, which a whole lot
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of fun, isn't it.
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It really is. And I tend to believe that between
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those two autographs on the paper, they were signed to
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the same Christopher, but perhaps signed at two different times.
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And the reason I say that is because the autographs
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are two different styles. The one that's a single line
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has the more complete Christopher written out, which as the
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years went on, became shorter and shorter when Chris signed autographs,
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and so I tend to think that maybe he got
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an autograph and then maybe a few years later, got
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another one. If it's the same Christopher, and I think
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the chances are great that it is. And the fact
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that that S is drawn is absolutely beautiful. And again
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from my own experience in research, he tended to put
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S's on the earlier autographs. Now regarding the eight by ten,
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that's signed in blue ballpoint pin and if you look
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at the other side of that eight by ten, you
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can likely see the writing through the paper, because obviously
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you had to write much hard, hard with a ballpoint
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pen than say a sharpie of today, I have seen
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that an autograph exactly like that, and I actually own one,
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and I believe that that's still of maybe just a
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handful word sent to Chris, and he signed a few
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just for industry people or publicity people. These weren't intended
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for the public. So this is a really rare one
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that very desirable for an autograph collector. You've got something
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so unique in that those two are written to Christopher.
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And I have never seen Christopher Eves sign a photo
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or a piece of paper or any item to Christopher,
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So this is great.
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Let's talk about Superman four, And he said, I always say
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you never know what you're gonna what you're gonna find
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at a prop store. And I have this up here,
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but you know this, this this Superman tunic from Superman
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four from the prop store, of course, but when we
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eventually matched it to the photo right below, it was
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pretty exciting. And we were we were digging around looking
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at that Lowest Lane blouse and we found that as well.
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Fantastic. Yeah, no, I think the lowest Line blow. If
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I remember Riety, and she wears this in the Didty
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Planet sequence, doesn't she She's actually in the Diaty Planet offices.
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It's two different Jim, you tell us more about it.
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Well, I couldn't resist. I had to go back and
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watch most of the movie again last night when I
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was reviewing this beautiful piece. This is the blouse that
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Lois Lane wears after Superman's first battle with Nuclear Man,
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and of course his cape comes off and is on
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top of the Statue of Liberty and it ends up
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in Lacey Warfield's office. Lois spots it and grabs it
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and then takes it over to Clark Kent's apartment because
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Clark Kent and Superman have been missing for a few
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days because he got poisoned by the scratches from Nuclear
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Man on his neck. So she returns or gives the
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cape to a very sick Clark Kent and tells Clark
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how much she loves Superman. It's one of the best
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scenes in the whole movie. Mar goes acting and it
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is fabulous. So you've got two key scenes that this
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blouse is.
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In brilliant and we have a Burman's and Nathan's tag
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inside here as well with Margo's name inside it, which
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is great. The blouse does come with the skirt, and
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what's interesting is even though these these di'monds have stayed
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together essentially since production, the skirt isn't actually seen in
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the film, so this is going to be from maybe
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a scene that you haven't yet watched. Jim, I think
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this is a sort of a good indicator of just
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really how a production process works. Of course, you know,
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the wardrobe is designed and rated at a very early
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early stage, often based upon obviously the script and storing boards.
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But then when it actually comes down to being prepared
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for shooting and maybe doing the rehearsals, changes are made.
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And in this instance, what is the color of the
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skirt that ends up being worn with this.
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It appears to be a solid black skirt.
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Yeah, sort of black. But the beautiful thing is.
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You've got Burmans and Nathan's tags in these, and that's that's.
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Shall we wrap with newspapers, right?
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Is that what's loved?
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Yes? I think it is. Yeah. I think the last
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couple of things that we've got to talk about today
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are a couple of the newspapers. But this is just
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the newspaper covers itself that are often used for set
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deck and set dressing. These are quite yellowed actually, so
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when we sort of consider the way that light can
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impact some of these props. Of course, the books, when
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they're designed for production are only designed to be practical
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for use during the filming. There is to be weeks
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once at most. Here we are bocades later. There are
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actually sort of indicators on here where seen some of
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the original color there just down along the bottom here.
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But this is a pair together. Jim's going to tell
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me now which scenes we do or don't see these in.
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Bad Man at Work, of course is Superman three. And
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what's the most appealing are exceptional to me, is that
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we have a very rare photograph of Christopher Eve on
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the cover, and that is from a Superman the Movie
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photo shoot in New York City down there at Brooklyn
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Bridge Park. But this version with the Kate blowing I've
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never seen in color as a slide or as a print,
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so it seems to be unique to this particular paper.
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And I think, generally speaking, if I remember any, the
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newspaper of choice, certainly for the first and second film
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was The Windsor and Eating Times or something like that, right,
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I think that that was the filler that they were using,
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that's right.
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And they were all dated seventy seven, and then the
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papers later were dated eighty two for Superman three.
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Absolutely, and this would be in a still shot that
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was taken by Bob Penn.
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That's correct, in July of seventy seven while he was
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in New York City filming the iconic Helicopter Rescue and
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all of the other Daily Planet stuff. But they reused
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a lot of Superman the Movie photographs of Christopher Eve
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for sequel newspapers.
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You know, in this common I realized we did forget
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one other thing from Superman three, and that is another
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photo booth strip that you have at the front of
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the table. We have seen these come up before a
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prop store. Some of them have been ripped on purpose.
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Is this a complete one?
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You can just see that it's there in its completeness,
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And you're absolutely right. I mean, this is a prop
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that is required for a practical effect, for a practical shot,
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an action shot where of course free Goes can't find
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a telephone booth, dives into a photo booth for the
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change sequence, the famous change sequence. Realize that he's been
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captured going through it, which is a major giveaway. Nobody
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wants to Nobody should be finding out it's Christ's changing. Sorry,
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clock can change into Superman and so in the film
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as of the bottom image and gives it to the
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kid that's standing outside. So this is one of the
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multiples that would have been made for that particular sequence.
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They would have shot that scene maybe half a dozen times,
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you know more, and so they would always need by
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prop square then we need to go again if they
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need to.
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Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. And I as a photographer,
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I've always said to myself, now, how did that photo
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booth camera capture such clear photos when he's supposed to
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be changing faster than this beating bullet? But hey, oh,
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those are fantastic, really really well.
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These are just some of the some of the few
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Superman items we will see in this year's auction. There's
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a couple more before we wrap up. Jim, you mentioned
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that there is a script that you kind of investigated
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a little bit that's in this year's auction.
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Yeah, it's a beautiful, beautiful script. It's as Steven and
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I have discussed, it's in a script with two different dates.
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It's October nineteen seventy six on the front page, but
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then the next page is dated July nineteen seventy six.
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And what's so unique about this script is number one,
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I've never seen that cover. But number two is this
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is the script before Richard Donner and Tom Manka would
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come up board. So this shows Leslie and David Newman
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and Robert Benton's treatment during the years that Guy Hamilton
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was the director. So this has a lot of differences
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between you know, it's very different than the final script.
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This one includes the appearance of Telly Savalis as Kojak.
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A lot of fans have heard about Superman flying up
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behind a bald guy, thinking it's Lex Luthor when it's
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Telly Savalis. You know, with his lollipop, and there's some
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other variations in this script. Stephen, the villains are already
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in the phantom zone. There's no trial when the planet
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blows up. Yep, there's the October seventy sixth date. You
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flip the page, You've now got July seventy six. So
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I've seen the July seventy six script. This is part one,
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so that refers to the first movie is as we know.
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They wrote the first and second at the same time.
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The October seventy six suggests to me that perhaps some
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additional changes were made to it that I've never seen,
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So I think there's some great mysteries in this. Another
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thing that's different about this is that the helicopter rescue
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Lois and the helicopter don't fall off the side of
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the building. There are a lot of really unique things
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in this script that are fascinating to read for the
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completest of script collecting completest who want everything, they definitely
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need this because I've never seen this version before.
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Wow, that's exciting. I love that we've managed to locate.
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I mean, you've never seen before, Jae.
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Ever seen it, don't have it, but I have the
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seventy six July seventy sixth script. But now I'm really
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curious if they made some additional amendments before they were
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all finished.
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Well, you know what you've got to do, Jim. You've
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got to register at propstore dot com room right now
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the ocean, get that paddle out.
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It's already done. Steven, and I got on your website
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this morning, and I notice you've already got some absentee
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bids on some beautiful items, including Keith Hampshire's photo collection.
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Now Keith Hampshire, of course set photographer or still's photographers
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for Superman two and three. I've talked with him on Instagram.
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He's a wonderful guy. He's got a new book coming
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out yea, and what an amazing career. Go on Internet
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movie database and look up Keith and you'll see but
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your photos from his collection are are just absolutely tremendous. Date,
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that's what revs me up. Gets my heart beating real.
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Fast, fantastic.
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As always, we tell you thank you for thinking about
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the fans, because the thing about you is, although you
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have a large team, whether it's Star Wars or Superman
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or horror films or whatever, you keep in mind. The
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people year after year that you speak to and that
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you know are fans, and you're always looking out for us.
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So we appreciate it and will certainly as always be
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loyal and dedicated and be watching. The fourteenth through the
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seventeenth of November.
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Outstanding love, your passionate enthusiasm. Thank you so much for
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your time.
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Thank you so much, Steven.
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Great to see you.