Ten Things We Learned From Rewatching Ohio State's 21-17 Win Over Nebraska

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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
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Gerdaman here as always with Tob or tub.
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How's it going, Tony? We are gonna start this week
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with two shows, one looking back at the Michigan game,
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one looking back at the Ohio State game.
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Tony.
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They say a good compromise leaves everyone angry, Tony, these
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next two shows are going to be a great compromise
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because Ohio State fans are not gonna like the Michigan
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the Ohio State rewatch, and Michigan fans are probably not
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gonna like a lot of the Michigan rewatch. So both
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games won, Tony. So I'm sure everyone's happy, right, I
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have I read the room correctly.
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I'm just gonna tell you, Tom, you would have been
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a terrible snake el salesman back in the eighteen hundreds
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and the early nineteen hundreds.
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I'm just telling you, like.
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Oh yeah, then why is your face on the bottle?
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Uh So, So enjoy this tonic, this brain tonic as
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we discuss Ohio State's rousing twenty one seventeen come from Ahead,
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from Behind, Come from YEP twenty one to seventeen win
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over Nebraska so went back and we both rewatched it.
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Here we are gonna about the things that we've noticed,
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and this is something that everybody saw live, but rewatching it,
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you really saw, and that is I don't know how
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they went two weeks of practice believing that Zen Mahalski
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was the right move at left tackle because he had
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a very very rough game and by proxy, everybody else
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did as well on the offensive line and the running game.
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And I don't know what they were able.
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To see in those two weeks of practice that led
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them to believe that this was the best move for them.
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I can't.
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I know he's got experience and he's played because that's
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what we talked about. We've talked about it for the
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last two weeks. That well, he's played at offense every
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single game this year. He's gotten snaps, experience, He's a
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fourth year guy. We've seen guys step up before Max
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Ray way back when stepping in out of the blue
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and the now you get this game of action and
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it leads you to the next one. But I'm watching
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that first quarter again, watching the first drive again. A
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move should have been made by the second quarter to
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fix it. And whether that's helping him out or moving
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him out because it didn't work the entire game, and
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so now you're in a situation you've really screwed things
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up now because you could have spent the last two
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weeks with Donovan Jackson to left tackle. Ryan Day knew
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that that was the next move. It's like, well, if
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this doesn't work out, then we're going to go to this.
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And as I said, and we both said after the game,
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they're more talented now with Donovan Jackson at left tackle.
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Knowing that we're not the first to figure that out.
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I cannot believe after watching this that they felt this hall.
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You know, they shouldn't have felt like this was their
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best option going forward.
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Yeah.
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I think there's several possible explanations there. None of them
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are great. One of them is you, well, you think
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it's going to be terribly disruptive to the rest of
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the offensive line to move to Donovan Jackson out there, Well,
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guess what the hul Ski left on a cart. So
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now you may have that terribly disruptive solution to the issue.
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Or Tony, would it make you feel better if I
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told you that maybe he was holding up better in practice?
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Because the Ohio State defensive line wasn't getting there. I
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don't know. Maybe that's a possibility, a possible explanation. I
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but man, I'm with you. The first drive was not great.
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The second drive they were back to back place where
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he ended up on the ground with the Nebraska rusher
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going past him. Right before halftime, Ohio State's got the ball,
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they're up fourteen to three, they're driving, they're in pen
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in Nembraska territory. You get a chance to go up
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seventeen three. Twenty one to three really kind of sees
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control of the game. And then he gets beat and
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there's the the strip sack on Will Howard where you
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know Donovan Jackson got on the ball and sort of
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saved the day. But then on the next play he
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gets beat again. Austin Seiravell gets beat on that third
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down play. So then you're kicking a field goal and
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they missed the field goal, and all of a sudden,
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it's fourteen. You know, instead of being twenty one to three.
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Nebraska goes into halftime at fourteen to six. You have
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an opportunity to give a team that is coming off
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a fifty sixty seven win or loss a chance to quit,
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like by all means, if you have a chance to
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take a team and give them an opportunity to quit,
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you should do that. And they were not able to
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do that, and a lot of it stemmed from the
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issues on the offensive line, specifically the issues at left tackle.
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And you know, you never, you never want to see
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a guy get hurt. It's it. You know, that's not
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a you know that, that's never. That's never a good thing.
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Even if he ends up just being a depth guy
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this year, that's never a good thing. But I you know,
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watching that game again, I think even if he was healthy,
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I don't think he's the guy at left tackle next
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week against Penn State. But either way, now you've got
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a week where you're going to travel on Friday, so
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you've got you know, you've got your practices through Thursday
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to kind of get this figured out.
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Now.
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It is that that is a big concern. That is
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that is the one position. You know, normally people will
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look at the quarterback position and go, you know, over
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over state the importance of that one thing in terms
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of the the outcome of whatever the next game is. Boy,
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that left tackle position for Ohio State and the offensive
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line and the whole is that is a like big
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old caps concern. That is a problem for Ohio State
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right now, and I don't know how they're going to
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solve it. And I guess we can just look even
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broader at the offensive line. There were lots of problems
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on the offensive line. There were you know, Zn Mahaskey
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had a bad game, but there were plays where Donovan
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Jackson got beat. They were plays where Austin Seerveld got beat. Yeah,
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I mean, I feel like Seth McLaughlin had a pretty
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good game, and Josh Fryer I think was okay more
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often than not, but at least in pass pro. But
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the running, my goodness, the lack of holes in the
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running game was astonishing. It's it is impossible to have
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two running backs as good as Ohio State has and
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wide receiver tag corps as good as Ohio State has
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and to not you know where the defense has to
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respect the passing game and there's just there's no there's
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no holes there. There was there was a moment where
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right after halftime, I was a little late coming out
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after halftime, and normally I shoot from the direction that
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Ohios did going towards. So I've always got ohios, dead's face,
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you know, offense and defense coming towards me. So as
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you want their faces in the pictures. Okay, So I
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was a little late coming out from half of them, Ohios,
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date was going from right to left on your TV.
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So I came out from under south stands and then
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shot the first couple plays before the end of the
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first drive from behind. So I have pictures that show
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what the plays look like from the quarterbacks of perspective
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or the running backs perspective. I have one of Quinn
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Shawn Judkins and he's looking at a hole that's about
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that big, and turns out he was not able to
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you know, suck in his gut and twist himself sideways
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and slide through the you know, slide under the door
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and reach back and grab his hat Indiana Jones style.
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And there's another one where Will Howard is back there
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and Donovan Jackson just got absolutely beat and there's a
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rusher right in his face almost immediately, and you see that,
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and it's like, boy, that is that is that's a problem.
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That is if you'd like to neutralize a wide receiver
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corps is talented is Ohio States and a running back
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corps as talented as Ohio States. You either need world
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class secondary play and world class linebacker play and world
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class defensive line play on the other side, or you
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need an offensive line that is in absolute tire fire
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and unfortun for Ohio State. That is sort of where
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things are right now.
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Yeah, and I wonder, and it's not like Donovan Jackson
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has found at this unbelievable All American level this year.
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I do wonder how much of his struggles in this
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game were from being concerned about Zen Mahalski. And again,
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I'm not trying to pick on the guy, because you
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can only be as good as you are. I'm not saying,
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you know this is it's not his fault.
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He's playing it.
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You know, he's been around for a while and they
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put him in a tough situation for him.
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And so I.
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Wonder how well things will get for Donovan Jackson now,
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assuming he's going to be the guy, and if he's not,
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I'll be shocked. But we'll get more from Ryan Day
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on Tuesday and get that answer. But again, we said
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it after the game, like we have no idea what
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kind of left tackle Donovan Jackson's going to be. He
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had what one series and then three kneel downs basically
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to get an idea, and the offensive one as a
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whole wasn't able to run the clock and keep the ball.
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So I yes, I think, like I said, it's more talented.
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I'm still concerned, still wondering, like Austin Seerveld is still
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mixing in is just bizarre at this point. I don't
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know how often that happens nationally because you don't really
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pay attention to other offensive lines like that. But when
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he got bat beaten badly on one of those, that
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led to a pressure, and you know, I understand that
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they want him to play, but man, it's a situation.
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Maybe it's going to pay off if he moves to
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left guard. We'll see if that's gonna be Hnry Luke Montgomery.
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But the offensive one as a whole has just been
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a little bit. It was a strength. It looked like
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it was a strength early on, but we knew that
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the one guy that you couldn't lose they've lost. And
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now they've lost his back up and.
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We'll see for how long.
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But it's the whole weakest leak thing has come into play,
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and now everybody else has to step er game up,
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and in terms of the offensive line, like, don't worry
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about that stuff.
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Do your job.
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And as long as you're doing your job, you can
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build around that, you can scheme around that. When you're
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not doing your job, you can't scheme around you can't
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scheme up anything.
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Yeah, I think my biggest concern with the line going
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into Penn State is the coaching staff clearly felt that
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Den Maholski at left tackle was the best of their solutions.
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So if that's what the best of their solutions look like,
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I have concerns about what the fallback positions on those
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on that potential solution would look like. So we'll see it.
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They lost, as you said, they lost the guy who
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we had identified over the summer as here's the one
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guy you can't afford to lose. Now you've lost the
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backup to that spot. We'll see how long Mahaalsky's out.
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My senses, it's probably not a short term thing, just
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based on the fact that he got he walked off
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very slowly and gingerly, not under his you know, entirely
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under his own power, and then got carted off. That
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is not generally a one week thing. So now you're
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looking at whatever plans see for the offensive line was
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and you also something that shouldn't go unnoticed here is
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Will Kasmerk being out for the short to medium term
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with whatever that arm injury is. He is the best
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probably of the blockers of the tight end. So if
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you were going to have a tight end over there
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to help the left tackle, well now he's out too.
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So now you have your not your best blocking tight
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end in there. And all of this stuff adds up.
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They're going to have to get real creative. I think
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at this point, like you can, you might be able
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to You might be able to scheme your way out
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of some of this with some creative calling. Get the
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ball out quick, do some of the stuff that teams
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do to Ohio State. Get the ball out quick, try
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and run the ball outside. Get I mean, you got
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to just mix it up and just you know, figured out.
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This is this is a Chip Kelly and Ryan Day.
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You're getting paid a lot of money, figure it out
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kind of situation because there is no there is no
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mid season transfer portal, and the goals remained the goals.
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So this is this is going to be a very
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very interesting thing to watch how they try and get
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around all of that. My next one, Well, Tony, how
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about this, Let's let's make this a positive one. Oh,
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holy holy smokes. Cody Simon had a heck of a game.
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Cody Simon had eight tackles, three tackles for loss. Very
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very good game. I think it kind of got lost
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a little bit because you know it was Caleb Downs
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made the types of plays that were so obviously important
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and crucial that I could even see them on the
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sidelines looking through a camera viewfinder. Cody Simon had some
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huge ones at the end of the game, but was
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just very very good throughout the game. That's one of
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those things where no one took time to appreciate it
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after the game because everyone was just mad about everything.
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But you know, that is a moment where you need
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your senior leader, Captain Blocko Jersey recipient to step up
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in those enormous moments, even you know, especially after the
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RVL res ejection that was it. That's a moment where
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the game is hanging in the balance. Nebraska has the
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ball close to midfield. You know they've got a minute
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in whatever left on the clock. That is a you
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could have a game losing drive there and Cody Simon
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made some incredibly important plays. He's someone who I think
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a couple people in their comments on our show mentioned
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them it just on the postgame show. But man, he
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was so so good in such an important moment on Saturday.
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Yeah, he was reading and reacting and then also making
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the tackle. It's great when you're doing the first, it's
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even better when you're doing the second, because we've seen
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some miss tackles at linebacker this year and and he
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locked it down making those two tackles for loss when
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they absolutely needed to have him. And he had another
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one earlier in the game. So a very good game
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from him. Something that is a confidence builder. And for
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a guy wearing the block ow jersey to step up
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when the defense absolutely had to stop, had to get
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a stop, that's one of the reasons he's got that jersey,
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and I think that's a confidence builder for the entire defense.
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And do it again.
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When you know that the next time you're in a situation,
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and you will be in this situation again, you know
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that you can get the job done. It's the proof
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of concept that we talked about with the Oregon game.
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They didn't get the offense didn't get the drive done
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at the end. But we knew they would be in
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the situation where they had to get it done later
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on this season, and I think they answered to call
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this time by Nebraska scores to take the lead and
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then ohistate answers right back, march is right down the field.
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So good to just have those instances of.
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We are able to do this. I don't care who
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it's against.
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When you're trailing against Nebraska, it probably feels like trailing
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against It doesn't matter. You're here the back, Your back
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is against the wall.
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All of the pressure is on you.
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So being able to make plays and respond and just
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march down the field or stop somebody from marching down
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the field is huge, no matter no matter the opponent,
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because it's very easy to just miss a play and
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lose a game.
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And they didn't.
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So yes, he was also on my list. So I
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commend you Tom for speaking of somebody who had a
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good date, good game.
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I thought you might miss that one. How about this one?
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And this is something that I may be contradicting myself now,
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but watching the way they ran the ball and the
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way that Will Howard did not run the ball, I'm
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thinking the entire time.
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These can't be reads.
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These are just handoffs because defensive ends are crashing down
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stopping the ball. It looked exactly like last year's running
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Game when you knew Kyle McCord wasn't going to pull
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the ball, then CJ. Stroud wasn't going to pull the ball.
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It was just these are handoffs, not accounting for the
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d N. We're just hoping that the running back can
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get upfield before he gets crashed down on. And then
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after the game, Will Howard was asked about the you know,
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how much of their running game issues do you put
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on yourself? And so then his answer, and I'll read
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it for you, or at least i'll read the automated transcript.
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So there may be a couple of words wrong here,
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but here's what he said. It's kind of the first
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part is what I remember most, and that he was said,
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I don't know if we had that much in this
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week in terms of pulling the ball, But so here
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here's the entire thing. You know, yeah, absolutely, I tried
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to take responsibility for everything in this offense. I think
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that my ability to run the ball, pull the ball
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and run is a really good effect on this offense.
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The more that I'm able to do that, the better.
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I don't know if we had that much in this week,
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but I think I was a little more aggressive to
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keep the ball on that last drive. They've been crashing
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in on running backs over and over. I haven't really
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pulled one yet late in the game, when the game's
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on the line, my legs come into the picture a
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lot more. So I'm confused by this time because we
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didn't have it in. We didn't have it in that much.
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But then I was more aggressive to keep on the
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last drive. So what he's saying we didn't have the
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run in are the I'm in my mind, I'm And
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we were talking about this on the x the chalk
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Talk thread on the buckeut, a message board presented by
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Jeff Rube's Columbus, where there's you never really know if
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it's a reader, not necessarily because it's all supposed to
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look the same way. But him saying, well, we didn't
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really have it in that much and then saying I
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was more aggressive with it in the fourth quarter, That
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tells me that no, these are these were mostly reads
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and maybe you just weren't pulling it.
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Yeah, And that's one of those things that I would
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love to get an answer on on Tuesday. We'll see
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if we do get an answer on it on Tuesday.
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Ross Fulton. On Saturday night, our ex's nose grew At
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Buckeye Huddle dot com. He put a couple of plays
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on Twitter at One of the things he said is
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can't decide if Oshi's reliefs and reads were mostly not
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live today or if Howard wasn't seeing things correctly, but
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they're back into running into unfavorable looks. And he cited
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a play where they had three over two, which means
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Ohio State has three wide receivers out on one side
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of the field. Nebraska had two defensive backs over those guys.
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So that's one where if it's a read, you know,
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that's not a difficult read. That's a I can count
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to three and I can count to two. So that
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to me suggests probably not a read on that one.
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And then you know, there's another one that he tweeted,
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and you can I retweeted both of these on Saturday,
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but he says, very you know, very nice play Ohio
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State is two over one and then didn't do it.
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And both of those plays that was a second and
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two where they got stuffed, the third and one where
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they got stuff. Because the numbers say you pull it,
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you throw it. Didn't do it on either one. There
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was another one at one point during the game that
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I pulled out where it was second and two and
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it looked like, well, you know, everyone's crashing down on
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Trevan Henderson and Will Howard didn't pull it, hands it
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to Travian Henderson gets tackled for a four year old loss.
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Second and two turns into third and six, which turns
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into a punt. I think they probably just didn't have
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it in for whatever reason. I don't Maybe maybe they
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thought this was going to be an easier win than
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it was. I don't know, but that would be my guess,
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but I'm interested in the answer this week.
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Yeah, and maybe that was the Maybe it's the calls
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that were getting more aggressive in the fourth quarter because
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clearly they needed it and had it worked.
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I think he had two or three runs on that
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last drive.
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Yeah, and in those moments where yeah, you're you're probably
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breaking glass in case of emergency to a certain degree
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in those moments. But yeah, it's it was it was
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not it you know, the if it was a read,
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the correct read was not made, and if the decision
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was you don't need to make it a red, that
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probably was also not the correct decision. There was a
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couple of times on I mean, there was a lot
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of there were a lot of a shocking number of
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second and twos that turned into things that didn't get converted.
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You know, first drive was like that. But there were
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a bunch during the course of the game where you know,
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second and two turns into you know, the first drive
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was I think second and two turns into third and
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ten because of a sack, but there were second and
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two turns into third and six and second and two thirds.
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In the third and four, if you have eight yards
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on first down, that that conversion should be almost automatic,
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and it was not. And you know, there's the offensive
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line issues certainly play a factor in that, and probably
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the lack of you know, lack of reads or incorrect
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breeds either way play a factor in that. But yet
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they even when they got to third and one, fourth
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and one, it was not always easy. It was easy
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when they were in the quarterback snake and it was
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just Will Howard just lines up under center and just
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plows forward for four yards. That's what it should look
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like with with Ohio State. You know you've got Donova
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Jackson in there, well not maybe not for long at guard,
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but you know Seth McLachlin at center. They were getting
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a good push inside and moving the ball. Hager Shiabola
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as well. They were getting a good push at times
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in there. And then it's fourth and one and they
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line up with Will Howard and shotgun and throw the
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ball to a Mecca Abuka out in the flat. That
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that's probably not you know, that's something where there's a
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bunch of stuff that can go wrong there. And if
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you can line up and just get it, like until
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they stop the quarterback sneak, I think you just keep
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running the quarterback sneak until they show you, hey, this
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doesn't work. You got to do something else. Because there's
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any time you're introducing complexity into a situation where your
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offensive line is not great, it feels like you're inviting
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bad things to happen. Hey, that someone got came off
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the right edge and just got a fingertip on the
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pass and that and that deflected it. And you know
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the receiver was open, but the pass got deflected, or
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you know, hey, the whatever. I mean, there's a million
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different things that can go wrong there. It feels like
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that might be a keep it simple situation, and they
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did not do that at times and it ended up
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working out. They passed to Google, was completed. But have
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they gotten stopped on a you know, outside of maybe
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one goal line situation, have they gotten stopped that you
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can remember on a fourth and one type quarterback sneak
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because it feels like that's been pretty successful consistently.
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Yeah, there may be one and they've not been stopped,
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you know. Yeah, because that was one of my notes
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as well. They just need to run the sneak more,
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and certainly in this one they should have run it
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three or four times, especially as as successful as they
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were a first one getting five yards or whatever. And
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so yeah, I'm with you, run the sneak board. They're
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very fortunate that they got three yards on that fourth
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and one pass when when they needed on that last
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on their scoring drive to take the lead. It was
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interesting because watching this and then thinking about it back
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after the fact, I'm thinking, well, they must have been
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really struggling on first down to have all of these
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negative the shortcomings on third and down, and then I
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went and charted. They so they they threw the ball
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eight times on nineteen first downs, and so that's that's
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a fine mix. But here here are the yardage they
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got on their first down plays in this game. Eight
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negative won fifteen eight six, forty four nine seventeen four
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to two, interception two eight thirty seven three seven, nine
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to one. There's enough big numbers there for you to
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have much more success on third down. And not all
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of these plays led to third downs because some of
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them were first downs in themselves. But you know, eight, eight, six, nine, eight, seven, nine,
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like those should be conversions every single day, and they weren't.
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And so you again goes back to the offensive line
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to play calling. How much of this offense was as
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open as it's been in the past in terms of
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the running game, because this looked like a very last
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year type of running game. But we'll see what next
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week's looks like against a defense that is is going
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to be ready for pretty much, you know, their physical defense,
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so that they get ready by being physical.
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Yeah, this is this is going to be a real
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stern test for this team, and it is going to
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be coming in with probably a little bit of a
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lack of confidence, because I don't know how confident you
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can be in a ground game. That was a negative
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point thirty nine EPA per play on the ground. So basically,
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every time you ran the ball, you cost yourself about
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four tenths of a point in terms of expected value.
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That's not great. And they had you know, the yards
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per dropback twelve point two eight ninety seven percent centile
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in terms of when you drop back to pass, how
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many yards did you get twelve point two eight ninety
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seventh percentile yards per rush? No safe to say safe
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to say not good. I'm trying to pull up the
494
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uh trying to pull up the The yards per rush
495
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seventh percent Yeah, sorry, EPA per play for Ohio State,
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UH was on pass plus point two, on rush negative
497
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point four. That's that is every time you're rushing the ball,
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every time you're running the ball, you were hurting yourself.
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Every time you're throwing the ball, you're helping yourself. And
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you know this is I looked at kind of the
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just the baseline stats during the postgame show and it was,
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you know, when they completed a pass, it was good
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for seventeen yards on average. When they ran the ball,
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it was good for two yards on average. Like, I
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really don't want to oversimplify this, but also I don't
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know that there's another interpretation other than you should probably
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throwing the ball more. And that was one of my
508
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other other big takeaways is you have Jeremiah Smith out there.
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I talked about this on the postgame show. You targeted
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him four times in the passing game, you did not
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hand him the ball. Three of them went for gains.
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The fourth one that did not go for a gain
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was thrown high and the throw led him out of bounds,
514
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but he went up over two defenders and caught it
515
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:25.079
anyway and then just wasn't able to get in bounce. Like,
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there is not a bad outcome that comes from throwing
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the ball up to Jeremiah Smith and just letting him
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try and do something. You know, the Jeremiah Smith do
519
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:38.200
something cool play. Again, I don't want to oversimplify things,
520
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but if you have a guy who can do that,
521
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you should do that. They threw the ball up to
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Cardinal Tait a few times. Cardinal Tate made some big
523
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plays and Mecha Buki didn't have big yardage, but he
524
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had some important plays that he made. You have these
525
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you have these wide receivers. If your offensive line is
526
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not good, there was a way to get the ball
527
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to these guys in space and just let him do
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something if you have to. If you have a as
529
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we talked about earlier, like a three over two, you
530
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have to pull the ball and you have to throw it.
531
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Like the run game is not there was not There
532
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was never there. It was just not a thing, and
533
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you have to be able to recognize that and say, Okay,
534
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I know this wasn't in the game plan, but I
535
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know it's in the playbook. I know they've practiced those plays.
536
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I know we have seen them pull the ball on
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those reads and throw it out there. If it's there,
538
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you have to be able to take it, whether it
539
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was part of the game plan this week or not.
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Taking it. The deep shots they took two had converted.
541
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They dialed up another one because you saw Will Howard
542
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in late in the second quarter drop back and kind
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of cock the hammer, but then had to pull it
544
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down and look elsewhere. I don't recall seeing that happen
545
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at all in the second half, and I know that
546
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the past protection was an issue, but they did connect
547
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on two and they tried a third. I didn't see
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anything like that in the second half in terms of
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trying to dial up something deep or even look deep.
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And I understand you're concerned about the past protection and
551
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you should be, you well should be. But also you
552
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were successful throwing deep twice to not really go after
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it more. And you know, if Nebraska kept their safeties
554
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back and kept you from doing that, that's fine.
555
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:26.000
Why couldn't you run the ball?
556
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So it's impossible to do both unless you're getting some help,
557
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and so I was surprised that they did not at
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least call more of those. A couple of last things
559
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that I've got saw plenty of stunts in you know,
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a lot of different pass rushing, which was good and
561
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it was effective. One of the I think a thirty
562
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seven yard scrambled but by Dylan Royla, was maybe on
563
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Jalen McLain doubling up and running with the receiver that
564
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Lorenzo Styles was already covering. He He had a couple
565
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of freshman mistakes, which which you would expect.
566
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The last thing that I have to spotting.
567
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.799
By officials this year is pisspoor all over college football.
568
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There was one in this one where Will Howard was
569
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shorted two or three yards on a run. That was
570
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the one that they that came after the goal line
571
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.759
stand and he picked up on a sneak another four
572
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or five yards or whatever, and they gave him.
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Like two yards.
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I think it was last week Colston Lovelin was gifted
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like four yards on a play and then they had
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to review it and actually go back and luck and see.
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And these aren't the only Nebraska got short changed full
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like two or three yards on a play where they
579
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got the first down, but it was mark short. And boy,
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it's for all of the control rooms that you have
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in the Big Ten and all of the televisions and
582
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things like that. The on field officiating in terms of
583
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spotting the ball has been pretty pretty bad this year
584
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and in and I'll say, well, yeah, but they get
585
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most of them, right, I understand that. But you shouldn't
586
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be getting this many wrong by this many yards, right.
587
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If you're off by a half a yard, you're off
588
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by a half a yard, that's one thing. If you're
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missing my multiple yards, And there is a replay system
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in if in effect to prevent this from being an issue.
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The fact that it's not getting caught is in and
592
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of itself an issue. I would also lump the I mean,
593
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we talked about a bunch of these calls during the
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during the postgame show. The one offensive pass interference call
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against against Nebraska before he was right before halftime or
596
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early third quarter that was not great. The one at
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the end of the game that was a legitimate call.
598
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There are some not great calls throughout the course of
599
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the game. I was excited to watch the TV copy
600
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to see, you know, was there an angle on the
601
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RVL Ree's targeting call that was you know, like, aha,
602
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I see why you made this decision. And I did
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not come away impressed with the evidence, the preponderance of
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evidence on that one in terms of what that call
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should have been. Well, you know, we'll see if that
606
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gets potentially that could potentially get overturned. That something the
607
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Big Ten does sometimes another league will do sometimes as
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you get a call and then it will get overturned
609
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so that the player doesn't have to sit the next week.
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It'll be interesting to see if that does get changed
611
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this week. That just it felt like, Okay, it wasn't
612
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helmet to helmet, and we know it just has to
613
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be a forcible blow to the head. But it was
614
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a forcible blow to unless his head is in the
615
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middle of his chest. It didn't feel like a forcible
616
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blow to the head. But again we'll see how that
617
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one goes. A couple other things that I had a
618
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:42.680
really nice job using g Scott to stay on schedule
619
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a few times. Not big exciting numbers by any means,
620
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but a couple of really big plays for the buck Eyes.
621
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He had two catches twenty yards, you know, an eleven
622
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yarder and a nine yarder. It was only targeted twice,
623
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.519
but a couple a couple good, good examples of using
624
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.599
him just it was one of them was a checkdown.
625
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I think it might have been one of the ones
626
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:06.079
where Will Howard was looking at going deep, checked it
627
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down and then boom, instead of you know, heaving one
628
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.759
downfield or taking it, taking a chance or whatever, you
629
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take what's there and you get nine yards out of it.
630
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.279
So that that felt like something that you know, he
631
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:19.240
that's kind of flown under the radar a little bit
632
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:23.000
this year, but he he has been a very, very
633
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:26.920
useful player in those kind of situations. We have good,
634
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:30.000
we have bad on special teams. I'm not even gonna
635
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.559
get into the field goal. That field goal. That field
636
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:35.319
goal looked terrible on the field and somehow looked worse
637
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:37.359
on TV. So I mean that was that was not
638
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.759
even close. Brian Day was asked after the game, do
639
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:41.720
you have faith in your kicker, and he said yes,
640
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We'll see how that goes. I you know, if they're
641
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lining up for a forty five yarder next week to try,
642
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:50.599
you know they're down one and they've got to win
643
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.559
the game at Penn State with a forty five yarder.
644
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.359
How confident is Ryan Day really will We'll see. It'll
645
00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.119
be interesting to see how they manage that kind of
646
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.960
a situation next week. Kick return continues to be terrible.
647
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.480
They are one hundred and thirty something in the country
648
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.279
in terms of kick return yardage and had a seventeen
649
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:10.559
yard and eighteen yarder. I don't think I think they
650
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:12.240
tried to return two kicks and I don't think they
651
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.319
got to the twenty five on either one of them.
652
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:19.160
That's bizarre to me. One thing I did like Caleb
653
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.960
Downs at punt returner that was I think that's like
654
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:26.119
he looks dynamic back there. You see a number two
655
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:28.960
back there and it's like it looks like Stockier than
656
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:33.559
in Mecca Abuka. And it is Caleb Downs that feels
657
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.759
like you might need that in a big moment and
658
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.400
you see him making plays on Did we talk about
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Caleb Downs on this show or do I just have
660
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.599
him mind? No? Okay, so let's have the Caleb Downs
661
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:49.839
conversation real quick. Incredible game. You are now seeing why
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00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.559
he was so highly touted at Alabama, why he was
663
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:56.119
so highly sought in the transfer portal. Incredible, you know,
664
00:33:56.279 --> 00:34:00.119
great plays at Atlanta scrimmage, made a couple potentially touch
665
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.839
down saving tackles in the back end of the defense.
666
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He was all over the place, big plays everywhere. I
667
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.119
would like to see the ball in his hands more.
668
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:09.920
I feel like we've seen a bunch of punt retires
669
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that have not you know, a bunch of punts fielded
670
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:15.280
over the last few years that have not really done anything.
671
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He's he he looks like I would you know, I
672
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:22.760
find your ideas intriguing. Would like to subscribe to your
673
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.840
news later in terms of kail of Downs at punt returner.
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And finally it's fourteen to nine, Will Howard throws an interception.
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Nebraska starts to drive at the Ohio State seven with
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seven minutes and eleven seconds left in the third quarter,
677
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down fourteen to nine at the Ohio State I'm going
678
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:46.039
to say it again, seven yard line. They get that
679
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:50.239
fourth down stop. That goal line stand is one of
680
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.199
the biggest plays of the season that you're no one
681
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.000
is going to remember by the end of this year.
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00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:57.159
That was an enormous play. And then the offense went
683
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.559
three and out. Nebraska got the ball again in Ohio
684
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:04.280
State territory defense once again gets a stop. Those are
685
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.159
two drives that again, no one is going to remember
686
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.320
those when you know, if Ohio State's holding the big
687
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.840
trophy in Atlanta on January twentieth, no one's going to
688
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.599
remember those two play those two drives. Those were two
689
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:18.519
of the biggest drives of the season.
690
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Yeah, ran up the middle twice for nothing. That ran
691
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.280
it third and long and got for four yards and
692
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:32.639
was stopped. Something I tweeted out after the game is
693
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:38.559
that tom Ohio State needs a special teams coordinators.
694
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It's not working.
695
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:44.239
There's nothing there, there's nothing of what are you doing
696
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.599
to improve your position?
697
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:48.519
Your field position?
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This was a good game for Joe McGuire, is probably
699
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.079
his best game. Flipping the field is still not easy
700
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for this program. Return game, kickoff return game, as you said,
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is non existent. And so you know that's the They
702
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.239
have assistants who work on special teams, like and not
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00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:13.920
just the ten assistants, They've got other people. But you
704
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:17.039
need to do something better because this isn't I mean,
705
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:17.679
it's not good.
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I don't know.
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I don't know how many special teams are great out there,
708
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.800
but I know this is not this what isn't either?
709
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:27.480
Yeah, well, and you know, like Rob Keys and Gunner
710
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:29.480
Daniel are two of the assistants that work on the
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00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.800
special teams. And I don't know that I put any
712
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:34.639
of this on them because I think a lot of
713
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:38.159
the stuff in terms of kick return. Kick return has
714
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.639
just not been a thing for Ohio State for years.
715
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:43.800
I mean, going back to Urban Meyer, it was just
716
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.119
catch the ball and give it to the offense and
717
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:49.000
trust the offense to score. This is this is like
718
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:51.599
a decade of this. Now, that's how you go ten
719
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.480
years without returning a punt for a touchdown and fourteen
720
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:57.840
years that or turning a kickoff for a touchdown. And
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you know, it sort of gets pre about as this
722
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:03.039
is this big thing and you can you know, find
723
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.320
these tiny edges and kicking the ball to the you know,
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the outside, the numbers inside, the you know, all the
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stuff that Erbin Meyer talked about all the time, and
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the importance of these guys on you being gunners and
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Denzel Burk's on kickoff coverage, and you know, they take
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this stuff seriously. But also so it's like there's that philosophy,
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but those also when was the last time I see
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you saw Ohio State come after a punt? I mean,
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Nebraska pun of the ball a bunch, and every time
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I'm like, I wonder if they're goun to come after
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this one, This would be a good time to come
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after the punt, And oh no, nope, just kick the ball,
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kick the ball off, get a touch back.
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Punt.
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The ball can fair catch the kickoffs, and if you
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don't fair catch the kickoffs, it doesn't go for anything.
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And there's never coming after punt. You never you know,
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when was the last time they tried to surprise onside kick?
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That was actually they were supposed to do a surprise
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on sidekicks or a fake punt. I mean, it was
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like all the all those all those trick plays in
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recent years, had you know where had miscommunication involved in
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them somehow. It just philosophically feels like it's just an
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area where I don't know that Ryan Day is looking
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for those big edges and we'll see maybe they come
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after a punt in the bigger game against Penn State.
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But you know that there were some big moments. There
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were some moments when a block punt or an on
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side kick or something like that might have made a
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difference against Organ, might have made a difference against Nebraska.
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We saw that it made a big difference for Organ
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to have a surprise on sidekick and it wasn't it
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wasn't even a surprise, but it still worked. It was
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you know, that's a that's an area where I think, oh,
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maybe leaving some meat on the bone. And again I
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don't put that on the current special teams coaches, So
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don't you know, don't find them on Twitter and yell
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at them. That's it. I don't think it's on them.
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I think you just look at the big picture and
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I think, just philosophically, that's just not something that this
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program they talk about it, but they don't actually do it,
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and that that goes beyond just one year. You know,
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one coach.
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Yeah, no, it definitely starts from the head coach on down.
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Like nobody knows who the like who is the actual
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special teams coach for Virginia Tech during Frank Beemer's time.
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You know, everybody's called it Frank Beamer's Special Teams because
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of the pop, the punt blocks and the kick blocks
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that they were they were known for. So I think
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maybe now with the offense struggling, maybe they tried to
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become more aggressive, but I don't know that. It's also
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something that oh, now we're now we're aggressive on special teams.
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It's like, well, that's not who we are, Well we
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need to be. It's like, but I don't know how
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to do that because we've never done that, so who
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knows how well we'll actually do it. So there you go. Hey, everybody,
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