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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I am
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Tony Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom. How's
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it going, Tony.
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It's a Friday afternoon, right before a massive Ohio State
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football game, and I thought, all right, got my Ross
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Fulton podcast recorded, edited posted. I think I've done for
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the week. And then Tony, great news, there's breaking news.
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There is breaking news. Ohio State fourth year junior offensive
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tackles and Mahowsky is going to be entering the transfer portal.
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And this is one again not a huge surprise because
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even though he was a backup left tackle this year,
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you saw him play and it was not great to me.
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This is one of those where maybe it's just a
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realization at the level is too great and maybe a
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step lower would be beneficial for him. He has not
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played since he was injured against Nebraska. We did see
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him practicing or he was at practice this week when
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we got to go there. I don't know if he
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is cleared. Ryan Day at one point said like they're
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not really expecting him back in terms of the health,
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but this would be if he's able, this would be
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one where you would assume he would stick around just
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because of the lack of depth on the offensive line
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and all of the things that have gone wrong. So
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even if he's not able right now, could he be
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in three weeks if they needed him.
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Yeah, he feels like he's closer to being somewhere on
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the too deep than a lot of the guys who've
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transferred and guys who've transferred and we have it, didn't
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see it practice this week. He's one where he's a
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little closer to potentially being in the mix again if
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he's healthy, which we don't have an update on that,
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but the path to him being back on the field
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probably is one of the tackles gets hurt and then
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you have to throw someone else in a tackle, and
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he's he's potentially in the mix to play if something
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happens in the coming weeks. But he also he's kind
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of interesting because we always talk about guys who sort
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of fit the mold of this is the profile of
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the kind of guy who transfers, where it's a guy
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who's been there two years, three years, has been passed
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in the depth chart by someone, but you know, someone
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younger than him. Where Okay, now, there's not really a
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path to the field right now, zen Mahalsky, you would
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have to think is probably the second string left tackle
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if he's healthy, but he kind of fits maybe a
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new profile of the kind of guy who who maybe
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fits the profile, and that's the guy who is potentially
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coming back, could be in line for a starting job.
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But Ohio State is pretty clearly portal shopping because they're
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not completely happy with where things stand. And even if
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you think you might be kind of the next man
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up right now, if they bring in another tackle, maybe
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you're not the next man up next year. And you
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sort of get the sense maybe it's not quite where
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they want it to be right now. And with someone
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who's been there a year or two years, you think, okay, hey,
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there's still plenty of learning, plenty of development to go on.
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When you've been there long enough as long as m
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Mahlsky has, you're not the learning curve is not going
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to be quite as quick. It's gonna it sort of
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plateaus after a certain point, and you may kind of
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sort of be more or less where you are and
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you may grow a little bit, but not nearly as
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much as someone who's coming in and as a as
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a first year, second year guy.
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And when Ohio State signed him and landed him. He
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was originally a Louisville commitment and was seen kind of
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as a project, a kid who had was like I
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don't know, like two hundred and forty pounds as a
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you know, high school junior, and then put on enough
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way to show that he could play and committed to
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Ohio State, and I think September October of his of
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his senior season, had offers from places like Penn State
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and Ole Miss, and of course Louisville and Michigan State,
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so I had legit offers, was a top two hundred
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and fifty player and twenty four sevens rankings and then
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even you know, it was clearly a red shirt candidate,
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and he red shirted as a true freshman in twenty
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twenty three. In the spring, he was the number one
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right tackle for the Buckeyes. Josh Fryer was the number
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one left tackle, and clearly they needed to go out
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and fix that, and they went out and got Josh Simmons.
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And you're exactly right. The fact that they're out there
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looking right now, looking high and low and still trying
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to figure out what's out there. That's that's the old
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riding on the wall, as we talk about with these
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transfer portal shows that we do, and I do think
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there's there's something to the fact that he got out there.
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He played quite a bit against Oregon, went down when
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Josh Simmons went down, started the game against Nebraska when
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you know he was the left tackle, he was the
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backup left tackle, so that's what they wanted to go with.
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It was the most seamless thing, and neither of those
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games went all that well for Zen Mahalsky, and I
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think there's some realization there, and you've got one year left.
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Unless you know he can get something somewhere, some random injury.
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You know, there's always something. But he's played pretty much
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every game last three years, I think, so I don't
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know that he's got any availability beyond the one year.
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He's a special teams guy, he's been involved, but I
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think this step up to starting at Ohio State is
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is too much, and then he'll go somewhere find a
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place that is more I think at his level, and
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he's got potential, He's always had potential, But you've got
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one year left, so you've got to go out and
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get on the field and grow from that. Sort of
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playing time. So then his departure leaves Ohio State in
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a situation where, right now, if you look at what
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the roster looks like as it is, and how who's
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coming back next year, in theory, you've really got four
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offensive tackles. You've got Ian Moore, who is He's gonna
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be a sophomore. I think he's like I could probably
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look real quick to see if he's actually played in
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five games this year, four games this year, but he's
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been Yeah, he's only played in three, so he's good.
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So he'll be a red shirt freshman. Deontay Armstrong will
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be a red shirt freshman. George Fitzpatrick at this point
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I think, will be a red shirt junior. And then
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you've got Philip Daniels who comes in as a redshirt
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sophomore from next year, he'll be a recherd sophomore from Minnesota.
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Those are your four tackles. And that's not talking about
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Luke Montgomery or Austin Siraveld or Tagler Shaball, all of
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whom have played tackle at Ohio State or practice tackle
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have seen reps there. So you look at that and
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it's still a situation where, well, who's the left tackle
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of that group? And I think we see a lot
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of right tackles. I think Deontay Armstrong perhaps has the
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athleticism to do the left tackle, but he's still very young. Again,
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you never really want to really on a red shirt freshman.
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So again, that tells me the left tackle is probably
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ideally for Ohio State. The left tackle is in the portal.
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That's it.
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I was so I was ready to jump in there
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and correct you and say they hope, they hope the
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left tackle for next year is not on the roster.
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Right now, we'll see. I mean, there's so much unpredictable
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right now, and wall Ohio State is certainly going to
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be probably aggressive in pursuing some potential left tackles in
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the portal. Lots of teams that need left tackles. There
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are probably one hundred and twenty five teams in America
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that are looking to upgrade their left tackle, and wall
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Ohio State has more resources and potentially a better opportunity
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than most of those teams. There are only so many
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guys who are potentially even out there who could be
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playing at that level. So and you've already seen some
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of those guys starting to come off the board. Oregon
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has already taken everybody. Yeah, yeah, well you know, Oregon's
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taken most of the portal. But yeah, there's only so
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many guys out there that can play at the Ohio
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State level. Because Sam Maholski is going to land somewhere good.
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I mean, he wouldn't shock me. You mentioned earlier he
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was a Louisville commit. Wouldn't shock me if he ended
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up somewhere like Louisville or Cincinnati or something like that.
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And like, this is not this is not someone who's
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going down to D two or Juco or something to
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play like he's going to play probably at the Power
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five conference level. Just not a perfect fit for what
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Ohio State needs for twenty twenty five. So definitely the
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Buck guys are going to be looking to upgrade what
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they've got there. As you mentioned, Deontay Armstrong is potentially
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going to be there in a year or two athletically,
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but you just Ian Moore as well, these guys, you
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want to let them have a couple of years to
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develop physically, get themselves stronger, get themselves ready to play
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with the rigors of the Big Ten schedule. You saw
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last year Carson Hinsman got thrown in as a second
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year guy, and it was just not quite ready for
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physically what he was going to face in the middle
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of a big ten offensive line, and that was you know,
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the plan was for Carson Hintsman to wait till his
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third year because they were going to have Luke Whipler
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for one more year. And then with Luke Wepler left,
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everyone kind of went, uh. And then you throw in
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a guy who's probably not quite totally ready they would
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love to have. You know, you don't need a three
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year starter through the portal. You need a bridge guy. Potentially,
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if you get a three year guy who's you know,
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you get a multi year starter like Josh Shimmons like great,
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I'm sure they'll take that. They don't necessarily need that,
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but they probably do need some kind of a bridge
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guy for next year.
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You mentioned junior college. Den Mahawsky could go to junior
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college for two years, come back, and you know, and
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now you can just those years no longer count until
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the courts say they do. So you could, you know,
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go go on on a sabbatical, two year sabbatical in
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junior college, and then come back and play your fifth
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year senior season somewhere. He's an Indiana kid, so as
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are most of Ohio states offensive linemen.
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Yeah, it's it's so funny. It just feels like everything
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you say you have to qualify, like, well, he's you know,
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he only has one more season left, unless you know
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he he might you know, he he would be done
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after next year. He has uh you know, but maybe
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I mean the Diego Pavia, the Vanderbilt quarterback, was the
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Joe that the riff Tony was making there just got
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another year just suing the n C double A and
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the NC double A basically said like, well, okay, you
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can do it. This doesn't apply to anyone else, but
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applies to you, And I have a feeling it's going
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to apply to anyone else who has, you know, the
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the name of an attorney. It is probably going to
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apply to them as well, which you know, to a
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certain degree, Like that's cool, Like keep playing college football
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if you want to, that's that's fine. More years of
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Diego Pavia doing cool stuff in college is not a
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bad thing in my mind, but it does it does
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make everything a little bit more Like the answer to
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basically everything college football right now is like, well, it
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depends absolutely.
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There's a little asterisk you know, offer may not apply
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in the future. We can take the software way at
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any moment. So there you go. Zen Mahowsky off to
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the port Ohio state still looking for off offensive linement
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in the portal. So you know they'll cross paths, two
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ships passing in the night as they look for a
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left tackle and he looks for a new home. So
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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I am
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Tony Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom. How's
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it going, Tony.
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It's a Friday afternoon, right before a massive Ohio State
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football game, and I thought, all right, got my Ross
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Fulton podcast recorded, edited posted. I think I've done for
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the week. And then Tony, great news, there's breaking news.
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There is breaking news. Ohio State fourth year junior offensive
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tackles and Mahowsky is going to be entering the transfer portal.
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And this is one again not a huge surprise because
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even though he was a backup left tackle this year,
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you saw him play and it was not great to me.
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This is one of those where maybe it's just a
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realization at the level is too great and maybe a
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step lower would be beneficial for him. He has not
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played since he was injured against Nebraska. We did see
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him practicing or he was at practice this week when
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we got to go there. I don't know if he
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is cleared. Ryan Day at one point said like they're
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not really expecting him back in terms of the health,
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but this would be if he's able, this would be
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one where you would assume he would stick around just
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because of the lack of depth on the offensive line
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and all of the things that have gone wrong. So
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even if he's not able right now, could he be
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in three weeks if they needed him.
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Yeah, he feels like he's closer to being somewhere on
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the too deep than a lot of the guys who've
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transferred and guys who've transferred and we have it, didn't
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see it practice this week. He's one where he's a
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little closer to potentially being in the mix again if
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he's healthy, which we don't have an update on that,
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but the path to him being back on the field
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probably is one of the tackles gets hurt and then
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you have to throw someone else in a tackle, and
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he's he's potentially in the mix to play if something
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happens in the coming weeks. But he also he's kind
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of interesting because we always talk about guys who sort
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of fit the mold of this is the profile of
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the kind of guy who transfers, where it's a guy
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who's been there two years, three years, has been passed
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in the depth chart by someone, but you know, someone
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younger than him. Where Okay, now, there's not really a
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path to the field right now, zen Mahalsky, you would
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have to think is probably the second string left tackle
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if he's healthy, but he kind of fits maybe a
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new profile of the kind of guy who who maybe
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fits the profile, and that's the guy who is potentially
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coming back, could be in line for a starting job.
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But Ohio State is pretty clearly portal shopping because they're
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not completely happy with where things stand. And even if
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you think you might be kind of the next man
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up right now, if they bring in another tackle, maybe
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you're not the next man up next year. And you
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sort of get the sense maybe it's not quite where
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they want it to be right now. And with someone
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who's been there a year or two years, you think, okay, hey,
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there's still plenty of learning, plenty of development to go on.
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When you've been there long enough as long as m
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Mahlsky has, you're not the learning curve is not going
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to be quite as quick. It's gonna it sort of
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plateaus after a certain point, and you may kind of
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sort of be more or less where you are and
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you may grow a little bit, but not nearly as
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much as someone who's coming in and as a as
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a first year, second year guy.
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And when Ohio State signed him and landed him. He
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was originally a Louisville commitment and was seen kind of
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as a project, a kid who had was like I
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don't know, like two hundred and forty pounds as a
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you know, high school junior, and then put on enough
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way to show that he could play and committed to
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Ohio State, and I think September October of his of
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his senior season, had offers from places like Penn State
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and Ole Miss, and of course Louisville and Michigan State,
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so I had legit offers, was a top two hundred
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and fifty player and twenty four sevens rankings and then
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even you know, it was clearly a red shirt candidate,
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and he red shirted as a true freshman in twenty
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twenty three. In the spring, he was the number one
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right tackle for the Buckeyes. Josh Fryer was the number
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one left tackle, and clearly they needed to go out
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and fix that, and they went out and got Josh Simmons.
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And you're exactly right. The fact that they're out there
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looking right now, looking high and low and still trying
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to figure out what's out there. That's that's the old
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riding on the wall, as we talk about with these
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transfer portal shows that we do, and I do think
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there's there's something to the fact that he got out there.
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He played quite a bit against Oregon, went down when
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Josh Simmons went down, started the game against Nebraska when
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you know he was the left tackle, he was the
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backup left tackle, so that's what they wanted to go with.
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It was the most seamless thing, and neither of those
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games went all that well for Zen Mahalsky, and I
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think there's some realization there, and you've got one year left.
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Unless you know he can get something somewhere, some random injury.
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every game last three years, I think, so I don't
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know that he's got any availability beyond the one year.
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He's a special teams guy, he's been involved, but I
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think this step up to starting at Ohio State is
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is too much, and then he'll go somewhere find a
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place that is more I think at his level, and
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he's got potential, He's always had potential, But you've got
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one year left, so you've got to go out and
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get on the field and grow from that. Sort of
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playing time. So then his departure leaves Ohio State in
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a situation where, right now, if you look at what
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the roster looks like as it is, and how who's
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coming back next year, in theory, you've really got four
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offensive tackles. You've got Ian Moore, who is He's gonna
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be a sophomore. I think he's like I could probably
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look real quick to see if he's actually played in
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five games this year, four games this year, but he's
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been Yeah, he's only played in three, so he's good.
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So he'll be a red shirt freshman. Deontay Armstrong will
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be a red shirt freshman. George Fitzpatrick at this point
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I think, will be a red shirt junior. And then
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you've got Philip Daniels who comes in as a redshirt
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sophomore from next year, he'll be a recherd sophomore from Minnesota.
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Those are your four tackles. And that's not talking about
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Luke Montgomery or Austin Siraveld or Tagler Shaball, all of
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whom have played tackle at Ohio State or practice tackle
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have seen reps there. So you look at that and
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it's still a situation where, well, who's the left tackle
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of that group? And I think we see a lot
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of right tackles. I think Deontay Armstrong perhaps has the
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athleticism to do the left tackle, but he's still very young. Again,
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you never really want to really on a red shirt freshman.
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So again, that tells me the left tackle is probably
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ideally for Ohio State. The left tackle is in the portal.
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That's it.
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I was so I was ready to jump in there
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and correct you and say they hope, they hope the
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left tackle for next year is not on the roster.
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Right now, we'll see. I mean, there's so much unpredictable
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right now, and wall Ohio State is certainly going to
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be probably aggressive in pursuing some potential left tackles in
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the portal. Lots of teams that need left tackles. There
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are probably one hundred and twenty five teams in America
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that are looking to upgrade their left tackle, and wall
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Ohio State has more resources and potentially a better opportunity
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than most of those teams. There are only so many
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guys who are potentially even out there who could be
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playing at that level. So and you've already seen some
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of those guys starting to come off the board. Oregon
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has already taken everybody. Yeah, yeah, well you know, Oregon's
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taken most of the portal. But yeah, there's only so
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many guys out there that can play at the Ohio
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State level. Because Sam Maholski is going to land somewhere good.
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I mean, he wouldn't shock me. You mentioned earlier he
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was a Louisville commit. Wouldn't shock me if he ended
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up somewhere like Louisville or Cincinnati or something like that.
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And like, this is not this is not someone who's
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going down to D two or Juco or something to
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play like he's going to play probably at the Power
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five conference level. Just not a perfect fit for what
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Ohio State needs for twenty twenty five. So definitely the
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Buck guys are going to be looking to upgrade what
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they've got there. As you mentioned, Deontay Armstrong is potentially
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going to be there in a year or two athletically,
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but you just Ian Moore as well, these guys, you
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want to let them have a couple of years to
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develop physically, get themselves stronger, get themselves ready to play
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with the rigors of the Big Ten schedule. You saw
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last year Carson Hinsman got thrown in as a second
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year guy, and it was just not quite ready for
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physically what he was going to face in the middle
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of a big ten offensive line, and that was you know,
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the plan was for Carson Hintsman to wait till his
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third year because they were going to have Luke Whipler
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for one more year. And then with Luke Wepler left,
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everyone kind of went, uh. And then you throw in
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a guy who's probably not quite totally ready they would
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love to have. You know, you don't need a three
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year starter through the portal. You need a bridge guy. Potentially,
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if you get a three year guy who's you know,
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you get a multi year starter like Josh Shimmons like great,
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I'm sure they'll take that. They don't necessarily need that,
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but they probably do need some kind of a bridge
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guy for next year.
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You mentioned junior college. Den Mahawsky could go to junior
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college for two years, come back, and you know, and
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now you can just those years no longer count until
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the courts say they do. So you could, you know,
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go go on on a sabbatical, two year sabbatical in
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junior college, and then come back and play your fifth
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year senior season somewhere. He's an Indiana kid, so as
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are most of Ohio states offensive linemen.
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Yeah, it's it's so funny. It just feels like everything
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you say you have to qualify, like, well, he's you know,
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he only has one more season left, unless you know
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he he might you know, he he would be done
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after next year. He has uh you know, but maybe
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I mean the Diego Pavia, the Vanderbilt quarterback, was the
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Joe that the riff Tony was making there just got
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another year just suing the n C double A and
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the NC double A basically said like, well, okay, you
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can do it. This doesn't apply to anyone else, but
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applies to you, And I have a feeling it's going
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to apply to anyone else who has, you know, the
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the name of an attorney. It is probably going to
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apply to them as well, which you know, to a
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certain degree, Like that's cool, Like keep playing college football
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if you want to, that's that's fine. More years of
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Diego Pavia doing cool stuff in college is not a
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bad thing in my mind, but it does it does
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make everything a little bit more Like the answer to
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basically everything college football right now is like, well, it
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depends absolutely.
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There's a little asterisk you know, offer may not apply
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in the future. We can take the software way at
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any moment. So there you go. Zen Mahowsky off to
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the port Ohio state still looking for off offensive linement
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in the portal. So you know they'll cross paths, two
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ships passing in the night as they look for a
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left tackle and he looks for a new home. So
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