Typography designs a Touchdown - S1 E5

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I'm Beatrice and I'm Lexi.
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And we're here to spill with tea on our latest curiosities.
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And this is our episode we have been teasing for a long time.
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It is our football and technography.
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But for our top slice of bread, we would be remiss if we didn't discuss our break that we took.
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Our unannounced break.
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We have just we both needed just a breather, not from each other.
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We've spoken probably more either.
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Um probably more during the break than um things you'll never know.
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We just both needed a break, and now we are ready to commit what we needed the break for.
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Let's make sure that we have a great schedule for you guys where we can commit to being here for you on a consistent basis, being here for most importantly, each other, our friendship and our actually committing to the pod.
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Awesome.
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Um and our sand, our sandwich and our sanity.
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Um, so we will our new schedule will be we will both be having a topic every episode.
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We will be consistent in that.
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We will consistently be here every other week for you.
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Um in our consistency, we are going to try to aim for anywhere between 40 to 50 minutes.
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45-ish is the goal, but you know we love to yap, and sometimes we love to yip.
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I don't know what that means.
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Um, but we're here, so that was our top slice of bread.
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I don't think we have anything else to address.
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Really, I think it's it's time.
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It's time to talk.
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Typography.
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What you guys need to know.
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Okay, first of all, these are huge.
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They're huge.
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Babies.
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I'm so excited when we first started talking about the pod.
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I was just, I was like, I love the pod.
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She's like, I love typography typography.
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It's like, what is that?
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Okay, okay, I'm ready.
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I'm ready to listen.
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Typography, um, I would define it as um the creation of any written form.
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Um, so that's just beyond it, it's not just catered to like the Romanic um alphabet.
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So like the alphabet we write in Spanish, um, French, Romanian, and other languages that I can't think of.
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Uh Latin.
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Latin.
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Hypography is like it's words, it's the creation of like the written form.
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And the reason I brought these books, um, aside from the fact that I really love them, is um they were a big part of my um studies.
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This one is really interesting.
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It's the Meg's History of Graphic Design.
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Um, so it doesn't just touch on typography, but it goes into um the history of how graphic design came to be.
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Um, starting with, you know, as a human race, when did we start actually recording and documenting things on clay, on um like read paper with the Egyptians?
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And your education is in graphic design.
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Yes, I have a communication design degree from Kutztown, go bears.
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Um, and this book goes all the way up to I think the 21st century.
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Um, so it has different, like similar, if you study art history, it's very similar in that there are different movements.
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Like there's the you know, Picasso was a part of the Cubism movement um with graphic design.
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There was like a Dada movement, cool stuff.
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I don't know.
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You can take a peruse.
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Um for our listeners.
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Um I will do my best to like describe everything word for word.
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Um the and this is the Meg's History of Graphic Design Sixth Edition.
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Yes.
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Um, another great book that I have is Mastering Type by Denise Bosler, one of my professors.
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Um, and this one goes into the like different ways that typography is used to communicate.
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So um most of it's like poster design, but it goes into um how it's used.
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I mean, this talk is about like composition, um what and then okay, last book, I'll do a little book tour and then you can start with questions if you have any.
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This one I love.
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It is called um typography sketchbooks.
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Um I forget the term for them, but there are people whose whole profession is to create new typefaces.
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So a typeface is um like Times New Roman is the typeface.
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Okay.
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When you say font, um like italic Times New Roman would be the font.
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Um, so if you want to sound cool in front of a graphic designer, you can say, oh, the typeface, you know, Caslan or um Comic Sans or that kind of thing.
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So like these pages, so just to like show them and then explain it to somebody that's listening that you're going through this page.
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A few each page highlights the sketchbook of a um type creator, um, like a type artist, and they're also in different languages.
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I'm gonna try to find and there's different fonts within different colors and different like sizes.
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So that and there's like different grids, there's also very fluid forms.
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Um, so it kind of looks at the written form, but makes it art, or it has that which I think is why design is so interesting, is it's the overlap of art and function.
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Um so I think the reason why I got into typography was I was a really bad speller, I am still a bad speller, and I would I I think with my dyslexia, I look at the letters versus shapes, and there's ways to like make really balanced or another term is current.
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I'm just spewing all this random information.
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No, this is incredible.
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Um kerning is when you um take a word and you um let's say let's take this word typography, and you make sure that the spacing between each of the letters makes sense.
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Um I don't know if you've seen those like graphic design fail.
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Well, I guess maybe in the niche sides of um my algorithm, there's like, you know, graphic design fails where the kerning is really bad and it looks like different words.
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Um I'm trying to think of an example.
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Again, sorry, you said a kerning is specifically the amount of space between each letter.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Tracking is what the even space between all of the letters.
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So specifically in this one, what would we talk when you're talking about the kerning of this specific and well we can I can put this like on social media so we're talking about this specific on the back of this book, which is typography sketchbooks.
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And so the back one we're talking about, the top typography.
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Yeah.
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Talk to me about this kerning.
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To me, I can't, I don't think this is meant to mean anything.
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But if we're looking at this um and you wanted to kern it, you would look and see if the spacing was even, and there's a lot of if with graphic design, there's a lot of optical illusions that you're actually fixing.
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So for example, the O, when you if you had the O perfectly um the same exact size as like an A or an N, it would look smaller because the curves would um, the curves make it optically look smaller.
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So if you actually hold a ruler up to um like the bottom of this M, or actually this, for example, this curve is probably a little bit taller than the T here, so that optically it looks like it's the same height.
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There's another term, I forget what it's called, but if um the first letter of a line of text is sometimes you like set it out just a little bit more so that it looks like it's fully aligned.
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So that's what where the kerning is also kind of optically eluding things as well.
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Yeah, so that's two things.
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Like kerning is like you take the letters that are already there and you're making sure that they match up.
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Um and that was I mean, we were like tested on that.
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And fixing to fix to like for example, here I would actually move the Y over that way so that there's a little bit more spacing, because right now, I mean, even though there's a lot of negative space here, this it just doesn't, I don't know, it doesn't feel right.
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I would move it that way a little bit.
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So currently, and that's and you can we don't have to discuss this more, but like how do you mention your dyslexia?
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How does you does that help you see in your designs?
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Does that help you or do you think that makes it harder?
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Yeah, it I think it helps me because I get way too detailed in like seeing everything as shapes, so I will if no one's spell checking me, I will misspell things because I'm looking at the shapes and how they're balanced, and then someone will be like, Oh, that's not even how you spell that word.
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Because I'm like, oh, I haven't been looking at the word, like the meaning of the word, I've been looking at the shapes that make the word, which is really even just wait, but that's kind of cool.
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That's like I know you I I know I I described too much of what you like look at this E.
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Look at that.
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Is this ampersand?
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That's an E.
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Oh, okay, that's an ampersand.
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Okay, because I was gonna say that's that is not what an E is supposed to look like.
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Another thing.
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What are we looking at on this E?
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Like you just got you gasped and got so excited.
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What just got you excited about this E?
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Um, I mean actually, I would if I was designing this E, I would probably have less points.
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So when you're working in a vector-based program, um And a vector is what?
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A vector is when two points connect and it's mathematics.
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Oh, like a mathematical vector.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Um but the way it works in a program is the saying you have a point with two lines connecting it, that creates like information for it.
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So if you have if say this E had like dots all the way around it, that would make the file a lot bigger.
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So great designers take if you look kind of like you see how many vectors are used to make one letter, and it's like only four, like it's very impressive because it's like each corner instead of like like this.
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I think the reason why this is being highlighted is it's just showing each of the points.
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It's so many points to make the E.
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Yeah, but I don't maybe not.
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That's just maybe.
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Well, I just like how your brain works because you were like, I would have gotten with less points.
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But I love that.
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Because I would look at that e and then.
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This is really pretty.
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For example, this, like I I first see this as like a beautifully balanced like line drawing, and then I'm like, oh.
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For our sorry to interrupt, for our listeners, this is more of a c it's okay.
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It's a cursive pair, more of our cursive page, more black and white.
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Illustrative with like um oh, there's a word for this, if I can remember it later, where you when you add a lot of lines afterwards.
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Um and it says I can't even read that.
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Cher, yep.
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Can you read that?
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Um it's illegible.
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Chris is it Christmas?
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Crystal Crystal Palace.
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Is it the Christ Crystal Palace?
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Could be.
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I don't know.
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Um, this is by the artist Niil Shu Milman.
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Sorry for butchering that.
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Um they're a Amsterdam-based graffiti writer and graphic designer.
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Uh, last book I have is Thinking with Type.
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It's a critical guide for designers, writers, editors, and students.
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I think this is more of a practical approach to understanding what um oh, I don't even know how to like, for example, there's a whole section on grids and why they're important and why like I feel like I can tell when something's designed without a grid structure, it looks even more disorganized because there's no um wherewithal.
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Like this, even though it looks crazy, it's a I would say it's like a three three-column grid situation.
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I don't know.
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This is kind of going all over the place.
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What questions do you have so far about typography, graphic design, why it matters?
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I didn't want you to stop talking about the grid situation because you were explaining that really well and then you stopped yourself.
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So when you're designing a page, um oh here we go.
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Uh this is a four-column grid.
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And they're using it obviously to the f the fullest of its abilities because for our listeners, this is a 1861 newspaper page, um, four columns, very tightly um lettered uh page with like lots of drop caps describing different uh I wonder what it is.
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Um and so that's the obvious abuse of the grid, but when you're when you're talking about the you so here's where my question comes in.
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Yeah.
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Because you obviously love graphic design, and when you're talking about graphic design and when you're designing graphics, yeah, are you always creating a new typeface?
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Are you always a great question?
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Yeah.
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The answer is no, because that would take a lot of time, it's a lot of time and effort to make um every single part of a letter match, you know, the Q looks like it would be related to the R, to the K.
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There's um there's terminology that is can be used to describe each of the um like the parts of a letter.
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Um like the bowl.
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Okay, two things.
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It I as a graphic designer, I I wouldn't have the time to like make a custom typeface for each client, but I would love to do that one day.
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I think it'd be really fun.
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Yeah.
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Um, a lot of times with branding, I think it's great if if it makes sense for the brand to make a custom type lockup.
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So maybe taking inspirations from different elements from different typefaces and then making your own.
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Or so that's what a type lockup is?
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Yeah.
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To make it a logo mark.
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Um the reason why graphic designers hate the um avatar logo.
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Which which avatar?
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Not avatar last airbender.
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I was gonna say that masterpiece.
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The um rotted fruit papyrus.
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The hated papyrus typeface.
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You remember the edibles old?
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Do you know what I'm talking about?
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I know what you're talking about.
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People are like, oh my god, it's like ancient and like it looks like it's been eaten by moths and is deserved to stay in the past.
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Is my hot take.
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Also, Comic Sand.
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There's like a few typeface you don't like Comic Sand.
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I have no idea what's going on.
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Okay, sorry, I just feel like I walked into a I feel like I walked into a long standing thing, but I have your name to Paris.
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Get out of here.
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Sorry.
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It's all it's all fun and games.
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It is all fun and games.
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I just don't want to be on the wrong um the typeface community.
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Okay, have you seen this is related.
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Have you seen the Ryan Gosling um SNL skit about Avatar and Papyrus and the graph designer?
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We're gonna watch it later after this because I watched it in class.
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It was that important.
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Um, and it also I think shows how frustrating it is to like see or know how much effort can be put into making a brand and like type look really beautiful, and then to have such a big franchise just have this like overly used font.
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It's just the typeface is heartbreaking.
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Yeah, I just I didn't realize how much went into it's honestly like really fascinating because listening.
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Can you talk me to me more about this book?
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I feel like we've breathed through it because we were well and uh this is also I guess this is typography within the graphic design world.
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Yeah, and like how it gets used in it, yeah.
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Yeah, what do you want to know about this book?
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Well, I don't know it anything about it.
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Yeah, like what because you were saying it was like fundamental in like your learning and as far as graphic design.
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So like walk me through like this page.
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Like, what what is this?
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What are we doing here?
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You have a bookmarked, like oh, because it's pretty much it.
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I wanted to use it as a reference because I do I find a lot of inspiration with the um um like mocha surrealism era.
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So, like I think it also is very appropriate in response to industrialization.
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A lot of artists and um craftsmen and scrap designers um started this movement where they made very illustrative, very like detailed and um natural looking designs as a way of saying, you know, all of these steam operated factories and like overproduced um things are taking away from the craftsmanship of you know, making.
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I mean, this was a whole this was a movement outside of not just scrap design, but like you'll see like the like there's a museum that I went to somewhere in the world.
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I think it's in Spain where it's all this style.
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Um and they I don't know how to describe it.
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Oh, this oh yeah.
00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:56.319
I'm I'm remembering a lot and it's all coming at me in like weird ways of information.
00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:57.839
I don't know what to do.
00:19:58.079 --> 00:19:58.720
I love that though.
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Like I love the but I know I like the comparison of like they were using their art.
00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:11.279
I mean, that's kind of what artists have always done in the way any way an artist can is use their art to like kind of combat what is happening around them.
00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:13.599
It's like it's a response, yeah.
00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:21.119
And that's awesome to see that it's more natural just like more natural lines and movements even in within graphic design.
00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:28.880
Yeah, and I I think I mean you can already you if for those listening, I'm really sorry that you're not getting the full picture.
00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:38.160
Um And that's just an encouragement for you to go onto our YouTube channel and watch it at the underscroller BLT pod.
00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:38.880
Yes.
00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:41.599
Um so that way you can watch.
00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:45.839
I'm remembering there's like a school of this book is really awesome.
00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:47.440
It's really fun to go through.
00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:53.200
It's also like not that it doesn't it was used as a textbook, but it doesn't feel like a textbook.
00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:58.079
I mean it is it's very textbook heavy, but it's not what is this?
00:20:58.400 --> 00:20:59.279
Trademark.
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The Vienna workshops.
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That's what I think I was trying to remember.
00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:12.480
There were like schools of um students that were like trying to create their own like movements.
00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:18.319
This is all very generalized, but but I mean yeah, but that's also you're explaining why.
00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:34.960
Yeah, and I I um I think it is important to learn art history, our different art movements and different like references to how or understanding how we got to certain places uh visually.
00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:47.200
I think that's why in some ways we're in a creative rut because we're all kind of imitating each other to fit the mold of whatever is happening digitally, which is very frustrating.
00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:47.759
Yeah.
00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:50.319
That's a whole worms.
00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:59.359
Yeah, especially in like the world of I honestly, as you were explaining it's like in this world of AI and you pause so much.
00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:00.960
You're like That's it.
00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:09.200
You have to open that door, but it's like it's so it's wanting to make sure that there's still like understanding the roots of where this came from.
00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:13.680
Like AI will never have the understanding of where the influences of these came from.
00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:23.440
Yeah, and even I mean, even if you were training models to say, like, okay, here's the whole history of you know, here's all these visual references to go through.
00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:42.720
Um I think great graphic designers have can create a lot of different connecting points to what the client needs, and that is what makes meaningful design so like outstanding.
00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:48.160
I think I've learned that good design, bad design goes notice, right?
00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:52.640
Everyone can point that out and say, oh my god, that's terrible, you don't you don't understand it.
00:22:52.960 --> 00:23:02.880
Or if you're using an app to think more digitally, you know, everyone's frustrated if they're trying to buy tickets and like it's the worst UX experience ever.
00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:12.400
Um and good design doesn't go noticed because it does its job and you're like seamlessly doing it, and then great design occasionally, and you're like, wow.
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:15.039
So yeah, I love that.
00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:22.079
What other what I think one last question for you before we switched, or and also like we were going all over the place.
00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:22.960
No, that was great.
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.160
I mean hopefully made my cut stone uh roots proud.
00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:32.559
No, I mean you definitely got me to understand like the um the whole point was like why what what's important about graphic design.
00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:38.960
What I definitely now understand the passion about graphic design because I design is my passion.
00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:40.319
If you know, you know.
00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:41.759
Graphic design is my passion.
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Do you it is there is a meme.
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Have you seen it?
00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:44.480
I know, yeah.
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That's what I said.
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:45.920
That's what I was saying.
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Graphic design is my passion.
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:51.759
Yeah, that was the face I was making.
00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:59.680
I I always think it the frog is like but I also feel like it's also stemmed um into the dolphin sometimes.
00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:03.920
It's like graphic design my passion is like the it also goes over the Zara Larson meme.
00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:04.240
Oh, yeah.
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:05.680
Sometimes I feel like I'm depressed.
00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:08.880
Yeah, that's what and sometimes it also is graphic design is my passion.
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:10.400
That's the meme I'm also thinking about too.
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:13.200
Just because I'm 30 doesn't mean I don't know memes.
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:20.480
Why do you I feel like I'm in some ways well I am more of a hermit than you in a lot of ways.
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:27.279
Yeah, but I'm also if I feel sometimes more chaotically online, depressingly online than you.
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:29.200
That's that's what I was saying.
00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:31.680
But in a good way.
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:40.960
No, but I loved it.
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:41.440
That was perfect.
00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:53.759
So now you if you I mean if you ever work with me now you know that like I do it because I I'm like anal about some stuff because there's like a reason to yeah.
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:56.160
So I'm not just like boop-pa-doo.
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I love this.
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There's history! There's history and you care.
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:02.880
You care so much, and I love how much you care.
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:08.640
And I'm I am learning to care about football.
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:10.400
That's hence why I came to support.
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:11.920
I do appreciate that.
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:12.799
I bought this.
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:13.440
You want to hear it?
00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:13.839
Storetime.
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:14.880
Store time is eats.
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:15.359
Yes.
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:21.680
Um it was a Super Bowl, Eagles were playing what year that the Super Bowl?
00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:22.720
What year did we play?
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:23.359
Yeah.
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:29.200
Well, um, contrary to popular belief, Jalen Hurts has gotten this a Super Bowl multiple times in the last couple of years, but it was not.
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:31.519
Um in 2025.
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:32.880
That's when we won.
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:34.880
Not this year, but last year.
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:35.680
We won last year.
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:37.200
Oh my god, that feels like so long ago.
00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:38.400
2025.
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Picture this.
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I show up to Philly.
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:43.920
I there's it's like hours before the game.
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:53.039
I'm with um, yeah, I'm like desperately in need of some sort of green thing because I want to support we go.
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.200
The idea of having no plans on Super Bowl Sunday.
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.720
We'll tell we'll tell we'll talk about the differences in our you tell your story.
00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:03.599
I go to three targets.
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:06.160
Okay.
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:09.759
Nothing.
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:10.480
There's nothing.
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:13.519
Right, because you're in the city of Philadelphia on Super Bowl.
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:19.119
Except Billy came through because we went, we pulled up to this random parking lot.
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:20.400
There was a guy.
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:21.440
I kid you not.
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:23.599
I kid you not.
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:31.599
Folding table with like random with random Eagles merch.
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:33.759
And I saw the hat and I was like, how much for the hat?
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.920
And he was like, I don't know, 20, 30 bucks, and I was like, I'll take it.
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:41.039
And then I and then I got it, and he was like, and it was amazing.
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.200
And I still have this hat and we won.
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:45.759
And that's crazy, yeah.
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:46.400
Uh yeah.
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:48.480
Our Super Bowl Sundays look a little bit different.
00:26:48.640 --> 00:27:06.000
So my Super Bowl Sunday, I spent it with the exact same people that I watched the 2017 Super Bowl with because I watched the 2023 technically 2024 season Super Bowl not with those same people, and we lost.
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:14.480
So um I went into my sister's house and um I did all of my correct routines to make sure that we won.
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:15.279
Well, right.
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:21.440
Well, you have to we have superstitions, you have to do the same thing every day for this Sunday.
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:26.319
You we're not gonna get you that deep into the Eagles lore because I I can't scare you away yet.
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:26.799
That's right.
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:36.880
Um, but every Eagles fan and every fan in the city of Philadelphia knows that we have routines that we need to do on Sundays to make sure that we win, to keep the vibes up.
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:42.000
So, um, I think I'm gonna let you because you know football.
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.319
You at the very least know what football is.
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:49.920
Do you want to Do I want to embarrass myself by trying to explain what how I wasn't gonna make you tell me what you know about football?
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:55.279
I was gonna ask you what questions you have because most people understand football, right?
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:56.640
So football.
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:57.759
It starts, it stops.
00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:58.079
Okay.
00:27:58.240 --> 00:27:59.279
They run into each other.
00:27:59.519 --> 00:27:59.680
Okay.
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:00.559
Ra rah rah.
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:01.839
The kick.
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:07.519
There are on every single football team, you have three, they do have tight pants.
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:09.279
You have three parts of your team.
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.119
You have three parts.
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:18.400
We have the offense, the defense, and the special teams.
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:19.359
Special teams.
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:20.720
Which is like the kickers.
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:21.200
Okay.
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:30.880
So the offense obviously is the quarterback, the running back, the wide receivers, the people that like are catching the ball, they have the ball, they're throwing the ball.
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:34.880
They're trying to get from one end of the field to the other end of the field.
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:35.359
Correct.
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:36.160
Touchdown, yep.
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:39.680
So they start they start one end of the field, they try to get to the other end of the field.
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:40.240
Okay.
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:41.519
They're trying, yep.
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:48.720
And then they have today, they have four tries to go ten yards.
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.079
And if they don't do that, then they we switch, right?
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:52.720
Correct.
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:52.960
Okay.
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.480
We'll get to what happens and why sp where special teams comes into that.
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:56.720
Okay.
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.799
So they have four tries to get ten yards.
00:28:58.960 --> 00:28:59.279
Okay.
00:28:59.440 --> 00:28:59.759
Okay.
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.160
They are going against the other team's defense.
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:11.440
The defense is made up of a bunch of players that are very important that I'm not going to teach you the name of because we don't have all the time in the world.
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.400
Just know that they are all very specialized and very good at their job.
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.640
That's why it is so hard for the offense.
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.920
That's why the offense has so many chances to get as far as they do.
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:20.880
Yes, yes, yes.
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:46.720
Then, as you said, if on the they have four turns, four tries to get 10 yards, but if on the third try they don't get that 10th yard, that's usually where the on the fourth try you have to bring the special teams in because they have to kick it to the other end of the field to make the other team have to go as far as possible to try to go the other way.
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:48.480
Do you get what I'm saying?
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:49.359
Yes.
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:50.799
That's so strange.
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.039
So you want it to go as far away as possible.
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:54.880
So usually they kick the ball.
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:56.720
So that's why they have kickers.
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:03.440
So the game starts, the kicker kicks the ball to the other side of the field, and then that's when the offense gets the ball.
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:04.880
They try to go all that way.
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:05.599
Yeah.
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:07.119
Defense is trying to stop them.
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:07.680
Uh-huh.
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:16.559
And then if they don't get it, then that's when the kicker comes out on the fourth try, and then they kick it back the other way, and then the off the other offense is trying to go to the other end of the field.
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.119
Okay.
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:22.799
So that's why there's so much starting and stopping, because the quarterback starts with the ball.
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:24.960
The quarterback, well, it's not true.
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:26.799
You start with a kick.
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.039
Start the game starts with a kick.
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:31.519
The game starts with a kick.
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:34.720
And someone so let's say it's the Eagles and the Cowboys.
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:35.279
Yeah.
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:36.799
We hate the Cowboys.
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:38.160
We hate the Cowboys.
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:39.759
That's the easiest one to say.
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:40.960
Cowboys.
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:47.680
We are a family-friendly show, but in Philadelphia, the Cowboys is a family-friendly thing to say.
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:49.519
Go Bird, stickhead.
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:50.640
And so is that.
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.000
So say Jake Elliott is our kicker.
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:57.599
We love Jake.
00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:59.440
He is going to, yes, we do.
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.920
He is going to at the start of the game, he's going to kick the ball to the other end of the field.
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:04.480
Yes.
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.359
And the other to Dallas.
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:15.119
The Dallas player is going to catch the ball and try to run as far as he can as close to back towards Jake and our players.
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:21.839
At the same time, our players are running at him, trying to stop him, and he has a bunch of his players trying to stop us from stopping them.
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:23.119
Yes.
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.200
Then when the ball stops, that's where Dallas starts.
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:34.640
Now, Dallas's quarterback and his O-line and his center.
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.519
The center is the first person that starts the ball every time.
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:44.720
And the quarterback, this is how much I the quarterback is the one that's like yeah.
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:46.480
And then they like shoots.
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:48.000
The quarterback's job, yeah.
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:57.519
The quarterback's job is to know exactly what they are trying to, what play they are trying to do to get the ball as far down the field as they can.
00:31:57.839 --> 00:31:58.160
Okay.
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:04.319
So the center is listening to what the quarterback is listening for that hutt hut hike.
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:13.279
Listening for the so Dallas' center is going to then give the ball to Dak Prescott, the quarterback for the Cowboys.
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.119
And then Dak is going to either decide he's going to pass it.
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:26.079
And that's when all the plays start of like, oh my God, it's a it's a fake reverse and the kick and then run and then throw and then a kick.
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:26.960
Not a kick.
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.839
Only it's either going to be a pass or it's going to be a throw.
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:30.319
Okay.
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:30.880
Correct.
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:32.000
So you only kick a rock.
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:33.920
Or sorry, it's going to be a pass or it's going to be a run.
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:34.400
Okay.
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:34.880
Yeah.
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:39.119
You only kick at the beginning or if you haven't gone ten yards.
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:41.440
On the third try, most of the time.
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:41.680
Okay.
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.839
Technically, on the fourth try, you can choose to try.
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:49.039
So we'll go all the way through the fourth, all four downs.
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:50.079
So he tries.
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.880
They try to run the ball, but our defense is really good.
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:55.359
And so they stop him.
00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:55.839
Okay.
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:57.680
So he only he gets no yards.
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.000
So now it's second and ten.
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.279
So now it's their second try and they still have to go ten more yards.
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:03.920
So Dak.
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.519
That's helpful because I want to hear people say second try, third and third and try.
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:09.599
I'm like so first.
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:10.720
Starts with first and ten.
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:11.440
First and ten.
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:11.839
Yeah.
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:13.599
They uh tried, didn't make it.
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:14.640
Second and ten, second and ten.
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:15.359
Didn't make it.
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:16.559
Yeah, third and ten.
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:18.240
Like they tried special options.
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:21.839
Yeah, well, they tried, and he Dak threw it nine yards.
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:25.839
So he threw it to his wide receiver, and now it's fourth and one.
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.680
Now they only have to go one yard.
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:31.759
And Dak is thinking, I can go one yard.
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:33.920
We're not gonna bring our kickers out.
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.680
Because we want to try to get another set of four downs.
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:39.599
No.
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.720
But what happens is one of two things can happen.
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:47.359
Is that when the game can really switch if you bring the kickers out and then you're like, oh, they took the game.
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:58.880
So what can happen is if on that fourth try, they decide, Dak decides, I'm gonna try to, I'm gonna try to go one yard for this fourth try.
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.559
I'm gonna try to go one yard.
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:09.440
If they do not make it, the Philadelphia Eagles offense gets the ball wherever they are on the field.
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:11.280
So that could be really easy for them.
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:11.840
Correct.
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:33.679
So that's why instead, most of the time, even if there's not that far to go, the chances they bring out the kicker because now instead of say you're on the 20-yard line, and now only Philadelphia only has 20 yards to go, now their kicker's coming out, and he's gonna kick it all the way back to the other 20-yard line, and now there's 80 yards they have to go down the field.
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:38.960
So that's why sometimes they will just and it's not a kick again, it's a punt.
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.800
So they are punting a punt and a kick.
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:44.159
Correct.
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:45.760
So now, whatever.
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.440
Let's say they punted because the cowboys suck.
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.519
So sorry, the cowboys suck.
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:57.599
So they punt on their, they got in their fourth down, they only make it and they kick.
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:09.519
All right, now Jalen Hurts has the ball and they run and they get all the way back down to they get back down the field, they keep getting fourth first and ten, they make it.
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:11.840
They make another first and ten, they make it.
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.719
Because every time you go ten yards, you get a new set of downs.
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:16.719
That's what that's called a new set of downs.
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.800
So every time you go ten yards, you so no matter what try of it.
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.480
It's exciting if you make it a long way, even if you don't get a touchdown.
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.559
Exactly, because now you get another four tries to go ten more yards.
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:29.039
Okay.
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:38.960
And is that so if and that doesn't there's no like in different sports, it's like you get so many tries and then it's automatically the other person's the other team's try.
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:44.960
It's like you if the Eagles made 10 yards every single time, they would just keep going.
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.280
Keep going until they get to the end zone.
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:47.760
Okay.
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:53.679
Now, let's say they get all the way down to the they've gone past the 50 yard line.
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:58.400
So this is so when they're on this side of the field, so when say they kicked all the way back over here.
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:07.360
On this side of the field, this is considered, no matter whose team, no matter whose stadium you're in, this is considered the cowboy side of the field.
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.760
Because this is the side the cowboys are trying to score on.
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:14.480
On the other side of the 50-yard line, score on their own side.
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:18.320
This is the Eagles side of the soccer, like football.
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:18.800
Correct.
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:19.039
Yeah.
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:26.320
So now, so once the Eagles are on their own 20-yard line, meaning this side of the 50-yard line.
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:26.559
Yeah.
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.400
Say they're on their own 20-yard line.
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:29.039
Yeah.
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:35.280
But they are on, it's fourth and two, and they're like, we don't know if we can go two yards.
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.679
What they can decide to do is they they won't get a touchdown.
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.840
So a touchdown is six points.
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.519
And then if you get the touchdown, great, you get it to the end zone.
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.000
That's six points, and then your kicker can come out, kick an extra point, and then you get one point.
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.000
So that's seven total points for a touchdown.
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:53.039
Why not five?
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:54.079
Like five and ten.
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.960
That's just a weird number.
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:57.599
Anyways.
00:36:57.840 --> 00:36:58.719
I didn't make those rules.
00:36:58.800 --> 00:36:59.760
I'm telling you what the rules are.
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:00.559
I can't tell you why.
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:01.840
Just questions.
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:13.199
Um, but say, say you're on your 20-yard line and you're like, we want points, but we don't know if we can go an extra two yards, and we don't want to punt the ball because we're already so close to the end zone.
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:18.559
What you can choose to do is bring your kicker out and they're gonna go for a field goal.
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:24.079
So they're going to the ball goes back basically, it's you lose yardage.
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:27.199
I'm gonna be honest, I think it's like 15 yards.
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:33.760
The ball goes back 15 yards further than where you were, and then the kicker can try to get it through the uprights.
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.840
If they do that, that's three points.
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:36.320
Okay.
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:42.480
So you can choose to do that if you're on your the difference between like a few points versus no points.
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:43.119
Exactly.
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.440
So most teams at that point are gonna choose to do that.
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:46.559
That's why it's such a big deal.
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:52.960
If they're like, you get past, you get into your own side of the field, they're like, oh, they're gonna go for like a 60-yard field goal.
00:37:53.039 --> 00:38:10.559
Because it's like you can get zero, there's still an option to get zero points there, because even though it's far, instead of choosing to do a punt, which if it ends, I don't want to overcomplicate it, if you punt it and then it ends in the end zone, the other team gets the ball farther up the field, so they have they don't have as far to go.
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.320
So I that's why I don't want to overcomplicate it.
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:14.400
Yeah, so but that's okay.
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.559
But that's why that's where the points are coming from.
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.000
Scoring touchdown is obvious, you get to the end zone.
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:24.800
Um questions.
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:31.679
Um how many there's four quarters.
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:33.360
Yep, four quarters.
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:38.000
Um when what determines like how long those are?
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:41.840
Or like what is it like every quarter every quarter is 15 minutes.
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:42.239
Okay.
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.000
Regardless of like who has the ball or whatever.
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:46.960
Right, but it stopped.
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.599
The clock the clock is gonna that's actually a great question.
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:54.000
So the clock is unlike soccer, this is actually great to pull back to.
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.440
So unlike soccer, the clock starts and stops with the plays.
00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:58.239
Okay.
00:38:58.400 --> 00:38:59.679
Which is also for the most part.
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:00.159
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.280
Which is for me why I'm like, well, what what's actually happening?
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.840
Because I feel like they're just it's it's a lot of start and stop.
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:14.719
I will say for the most part, for the choice of not losing you, for most of the game, the clock stops and starts when the play stops and starts.
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:15.199
Okay.
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:23.840
Then, however, the team that's on offense has only 25 seconds most of the time.
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.039
So if you are watching the game and something else is happening, don't worry.
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:28.880
Just know the rule most of the time.
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.599
They have 25 seconds to get the playoff.
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:36.800
So it's not like they have however long they want to decide to play the next play.
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.480
So that's why sometimes they're like, oh, they're rushing to get the playoff.
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:41.039
Okay.
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:47.599
So they so like when the ball stops, they have 25 seconds to try to start again.
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:48.480
Okay.
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:49.760
Okay.
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:50.559
Okay.
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:51.840
Most of the time.
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:59.280
The rules change depending on how close you are to the end of the game, how close you are to halftime, um, and how many timeouts you have.
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:01.840
Oh, there are timeouts.
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:02.400
Yeah.
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:17.199
So like two minutes before the end of the half, so either the end of the game or the half, um, you have the clock does not stop um between plays unless you are out of bounds, or the coach plays calls a timeout.
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:22.880
So that's why usually they're talking about the two-minute drill right before the half, because they get so excited.
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:30.239
Because if the player doesn't get out of bounds and the team doesn't have timeouts, even so, did you watch the last Eagles game?
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:30.800
Okay.
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:40.480
So the last Eagles game was so exciting because the Eagles were down three points and they had no timeouts, and they had to get from our 20-yard line, I think it was 20 or 30.
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:43.199
I was working, so I unfortunately couldn't watch the whole actual game.
00:40:43.280 --> 00:41:00.800
Um, but they had to get from our 20-yard line all the way to the end zone and they had no timeouts, and it was under two minutes, which means the clock was only going to stop if we got the caught the ball in bounds, but then the player went out of bounds.
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:01.440
Okay.
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:05.840
And they only had one minute and 50 seconds to get down the field to do it.
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:06.960
Yes.
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:17.599
So our quarterback, Jalen, did he they there was he ran the ball inside once and they he threw the ball in the field once.
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:26.079
Otherwise, he threw three perimeter passes where the the wide receiver caught the ball on the sideline and then fell out of bounds to stop the clock.
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:30.719
But they so they did it and then they won the game with a beautiful pass of the end zone.
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:42.559
But it was like very riveting because he might, if another quarterback that maybe either wasn't paying attention to the timing or a coach that wasn't paying attention to the fact that he didn't have any timeouts, they might have run out of time, so they would have lost the game.
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.159
And that has happened in the past.
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:49.119
That was actually a very rare win, like the statistically, it was a very rare win.
00:41:49.360 --> 00:42:02.960
Um, go birds, go birds, because a lot of people will tell you that Jalen Hurts is not an elite quarterback, but that's because those people don't understand what elite quarterback play looks like.
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:09.119
Because Jalen very rarely is going to like put the team at risk.
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:26.159
He will very often use the games that he's playing to like grow in order to like improve and make sure that like they win, but he's not going to whatever.
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:31.280
He's not going to like pad his own stats in order to make himself look good.
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.639
He's gonna do whatever it takes to make sure like the actual team wins.
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:53.199
And so some people mean think that means that he's like not an elite quarterback because he's willing to not be the best passer or throw the prettiest plays or run the most in the game, which are things that people sh say are great quarterback stats because he'd rather have talented players around him.
00:42:53.360 --> 00:43:17.360
That means the team's gonna win um and throw the ball to them and allow them to run around and allow them to be the stars of the game because that means the team is going to win, because that means more to him than stats on a sheet and a bunch of like grown men who couldn't succeed at what he's choosing to do um on TV, telling him that he's great when the players that have actually gone and done great things see the greatness that he's achieved.
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:22.079
So um, the city of Philadelphia has decided that he's the problem for reasons I couldn't tell you.
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:29.519
Even though he's gotten us to the Super Bowl twice in the last five years and is a generational talent.
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:37.039
But these are also the same losers that said Tom Brady wasn't good, so um yeah, not a not a Tom Brady.
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:43.519
The last question I have is do we know more about um the Nigerian player?
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:49.519
Yeah, see, so he made the he was he was put on he was did not make the original 53 men roster.
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:54.800
He's on our practice squad with our international team um with our international spot.
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.519
There was also, I was remiss to say there was another player from oh, I even meant to get his name.
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:09.360
Um, Josh Uce, he was um I meant to get his last is where what country he was from before we we started recording.
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.079
Um he also was an international player.
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:13.760
He also had not played football before.
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:14.960
He also made the team.
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:19.039
So they won't play this year, most likely, because they're just so brand new.
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:27.360
But they both one got their um had their first sack um of their NFL career, which means they tackled the quarterback.
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:35.840
So a sack is when like the defensive player hits a quarterback to the ground, and um a tackle is when you hit uh like the player in the open field.
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:49.440
Those are very hard to get um when you're the positions that they are because they they the players make it look really easy, but realistically, these are like 300-pound grown men who their entire job is to stop each other from hitting each other's players.
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.800
They are doing that professionally for a living.
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:57.360
They got in the preseason, they both were able to make really successful plays.
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:58.639
Um, so they looked really good.
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.239
So that's impressive, yeah.
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.000
And they've never played football before.
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:07.360
So, and some players that played their whole life get to preseason and still don't have those accomplishments.
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.599
So very impressive, very cool.
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:10.800
Yeah.
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:14.960
Uh now I know more about football.
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.840
Yeah, I don't know if we'll get her to care about it, but I'll still try.
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:20.159
I will now understand if I'm watching a game.
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:20.639
Yeah.
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:26.400
See the thing is I'm not invited to watch Eagles games because I'm I also don't have yeah.
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:26.880
Yeah.
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.079
I'll get you, I can do you, I can we can absolutely watch Eagles games together.
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:33.760
Honestly, I just haven't this I had to watch my first again with my sister.
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:41.599
I there's there's traditions that I've the one problem when I moved across the country was that I watched the Super Bowl, not with my sister.
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:46.960
And again, I want to apologize to the city of Philadelphia that I didn't watch the 2013.
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:54.159
Technically, what's confusing about the years that they win, the season happens, but the Super Bowl happens the year after.
00:45:54.320 --> 00:46:03.519
So when I say the Eagles, it's 2024 was the 2025 they won in the year 2025, but it was a 2024 season, so that's why it feels so long ago.
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.480
It was the 2024 Eagles, but they won in 2025.
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:12.320
The 2025 season last year, they won in this 2026, but it was a 2025 winners.
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:17.760
So so yeah, so I watched that Super Bowl in Denver, which I still miss those girls.
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:19.039
I watched that Super Bowl.
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:23.360
There's like a random Eagles bar in Denver, and I like went early in the morning.
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:24.480
Oh my gosh.
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:25.519
Oh, we absolutely will.
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:26.719
I love it, I love it there.
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:35.119
It was like the best vibe, and then like these these I ended up watching, actually, I ended up watching with this random couple that they were getting married that year.
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:36.480
I just saw that they had their first baby.
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:37.599
We're still friends on Instagram.
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.480
And then there are these there are these four girls that were so sweet.
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:44.000
I'm so sad I didn't get like, I think I got their numbers, but I never talked to them ever again.
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:51.920
But like we watched a Super Bowl together, and like it was the year that we like thought we were gonna win, and then that stupid holding call from James Bradbury.
00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:01.440
We should have won, but we didn't, but it's fine because we won last year.
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:02.559
Goat Birds.
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:04.880
Goat Birds not last year, two years ago.
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:05.840
We're gonna win this year.
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:09.840
I'm putting it out into the world because I think the vibes are right, and I think Sean Manion knows it.
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:11.440
Um Halftime Show.
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:13.360
Halftime show is not announced yet.
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.000
Okay, they usually announce it like November.
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:17.920
Yeah, you're so right for that.
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:20.960
So yeah, we will know eventually.
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.639
Um, I'm probably pretty sure because who was last year's halftime show?
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:25.039
Do you remember?
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:25.599
Bad bunny.
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:26.639
Bad bunny, yeah.
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.280
So usually legendary, legendary, that was incredible.
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:29.920
Historic.
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.320
But they did Bad Bunny before that, it was Kendrick, and then also historic.
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.559
Before that was the who was before that, Rihanna.
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:39.920
Oh yeah.
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.159
Uh was that the year, yeah.
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.199
And then before that, that was like the 90s one.
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:46.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.840
So probably that one I watched in Canada, that was cool.
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:57.360
Um probably I would think probably someone, like I would think usually they do like a throwback in there.
00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:59.280
We got our little nerdy interests out.
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.400
I've honestly I barely even scratched the surface on football.
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:09.760
And I scratched the surface on uh type and graphic design and all things visual communication.
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:23.760
With Autumn here now, um my closing question for you is are you what's your go-to like cozy drink and how a cozy drink?
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:25.840
Well, I have a cozy drink.
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:29.039
I don't so I'm like an iced coffee year-round girl.
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:32.800
Like I I I can't, I'm not that strong.
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:35.199
Yeah, well, what's your cozy drink?
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.480
Um, it really depends on the day.
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:44.800
This is gonna expose how picky I am about what I'm in the mood for.
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:50.320
Because it's like time of day, weather, what my needs are.
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:59.039
I really I um I love a like a cappuccino in the morning, a cortato in the afternoon.
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:00.320
What's a cortado?
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:03.920
A cortado is equal par espresso and steamed milk.
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:05.199
It's about this big.
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.000
Um I In the afternoon.
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:09.920
What time are you drinking coffee in the afternoon?
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:10.559
2 p.m.
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:15.119
I can't go to bed if I have coffee afternoon.
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.440
Uh maybe that's why I can't I cannot.
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:21.119
It's gonna be a mess.
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.360
I mean, four for me is like, okay, I should.
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:27.920
But no, uh quite genuinely, if I have caffeine after 2 p.m.
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:29.840
after 12 p.m.
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:38.559
Like I will probably be up until like two, like I'll be laying, I'll try to go to bed at midnight, and then I'll be staring at the ceiling and I'll be like, what's wrong?
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:43.039
And then I remember like right, I had I had espresso at 3 p.m.
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:46.079
for reasons that I can't figure out three like 2 p.m.
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:47.360
is like the latest.
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:48.800
Mm-mm.
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.519
No, I I quite genuinely every time I do it.
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.000
The last time I had a diet coke at 2 p.m.
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:56.800
I was literally laying in bed, like tweaking.
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:58.159
I was like, what's going on?
00:49:58.320 --> 00:49:59.119
And I was like, oh.
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.440
I have the list.
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:02.320
The list.
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:07.360
I love, yeah, okay, cortado, equal part, steamed milk, and espresso.
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:11.199
I have these cute little, like they're really, the cups should be this big.
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:20.400
Uh my hot take, or not hot take, passionate um opinion, cortado should not be iced.
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.519
I well well, it's steamed milk.
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.920
Yeah, no, but people I've seen people have iced cortados.
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:34.559
And even honestly, even iced cappuccinos sometimes I like I like maybe that's why I'm capping.
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:35.360
Capuchino.
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:36.960
Also steamed milk?
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:38.079
Yeah, but like milk.
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:44.079
So it's it's also so um it's more so about the ratio of milk to espresso.
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So like a latte is like 70% milk, 30% espresso.
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Cappuccino is like 60 to 40.
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Like the I don't even know how to do that.
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How do I get as much espresso in my life as possible and it make it taste like a latte?
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Like I'm a ice latte grilly mostly because I like then just stick to an ice latte.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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What are you?
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I think I'm most I think a cortado should be because it's such a small drink, if you don't have the two seconds to just sit and enjoy it and like savor it and then go, then you shouldn't have an ice.
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What would hurt you about the cortado?
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I don't know.
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You're really upset.
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I just feel like you I feel like it's a reshorting.
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I think I find because for me it's like an afternoon comfort of like you have lunch, you make a cute little cortado drink at home with like a mocha pot.
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Um, and then you have a mocha pot.
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A mocha pot.
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Oh my god, I'm gonna this is another to a mocha pot is how to make uh espresso at no jumping.
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I'm not jumping.
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I'm not jumping, I swear.
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Um this is a mocha pot.
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Wait, how cute! Um, you can make espresso at home or like over the stove with it.
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You put water in here up to the rim here, and then you fill it with um grounds here.
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And you actually do not pack it like you do espresso.
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You have to um like not diffuse it, but like sorry, I'm getting really into the phone.
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No, that's not why I was laughing.
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That's not why I was laughing.
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Why are you not?
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I wasn't the type of packing I was thinking of.
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That was a different contraption.
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We're just two different people.
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We are two different people.
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We're just two totally different people, and that's okay, and that's what makes us beautiful.
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I feel like my yeah.
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Um it is so cute.
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Wait, this is so cute.
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And then, okay, but it's so fun and beautiful.
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Um, you watch the espresso bubbling out of the And so it just bubbles up.
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Bubbles up, and then you How does that work gravity-wise?
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Steam.
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And that's why it's espresso, because espresso is made with steam and uh iced coffee.
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I think so I like an iced coffee over an ice latte because iced coffee is like there's different ways to make it.
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Iced coffee is also different than cold brew, and you can just tell me to stop.
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I actually am going to mostly because I want a full episode on this.
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Okay.
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So get ready.
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Yay, okay.
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Alright, well, this has been the first episode back.
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