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00:00:39.728Welcome back, everybody, to the Ash Chat Podcast. We are live once again at
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00:00:50.108Yeah, we've got a hell of a show lined up today. This is going to be,
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00:00:54.108it might be a long one. It might be interesting. It might get a little weird.
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00:01:03.648We've got a really special guest with us today, Mr. Carlos Garcia.
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00:01:09.548Hello hello how are you sir let's go welcome welcome let's go we got a lot to
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00:01:17.288us with me today of course i have,
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00:01:24.368cappy and jay and our esteemed guest carlos so what's up gentlemen how are we
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00:01:29.148doing today fucking great yeah yeah on the last we'll just get into this real
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00:01:32.128quick before getting into carlos's stuff on the last episode we were talking
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00:01:35.108about how we had a couple events coming up here at the lounge.
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00:01:39.868And this past weekend, we did have the chili cook off. Did we? Cappy!
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00:01:44.208Let's go, let's go, let's go. I believe we have a two-time champion on our hands.
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00:01:48.028Two-time champion. We have two. I can't figure out how to do more collider, but you can cook a chili.
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00:01:51.168Well, you know. Yeah, we got two two-time champions.
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00:01:58.210It was a hell of a time, man. There was a lot of good chilies out there. That was a great day.
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00:02:02.390We had like 12 chilies. Yeah. And at least 40 to 50 tasters,
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00:02:05.710something like that. Yeah. We had some cheaters there, too, but we're not going to talk about it.
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00:02:10.750I'm gaslight mother. Are they in the other room? Oh, yeah. They're in the other
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00:02:14.710room. You can't pay $150 for a chili and lose. What the fuck is going on? That's crazy.
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00:02:19.630I'm just saying, though. Well, that was a stew. Because it was ox.
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00:02:22.610Because it was ox. Tell me I give a fuck.
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00:02:29.390Oh shit anyway go ahead so yeah
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00:02:32.190so that's how that went but coast welcome man how
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00:02:38.390noticed uh you brought in a a few bottles with
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00:02:47.930these but for our listeners that have not seen your your channel give us a little
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00:02:51.610bit background on you and what you what you do all right so i have a youtube
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00:02:56.150channel called carlos garcia very right with my name so it's about my life really
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00:03:00.650it's about a lot about whiskey there is some cigar content on there but youtube
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00:03:02.510doesn't like it so much so i try to stay away,
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00:03:06.210there's some travel videos and i finally got one gun video
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00:03:10.250up there i went out
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00:03:13.410to the range or i went out to the desert with my buddy in arizona and
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00:03:16.050we just shot up the mountain like arizona's a
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00:03:18.730whole different life yeah love it love not like
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00:03:21.690connecticut so but yeah but mostly it's
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00:03:26.290whiskey content so i brought four whiskeys that are cigar based to pair with
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00:03:31.730some cigars nice cool perfect awesome man so yeah decided excited to get into
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00:03:35.770that kind of stuff what got what started your whole your channel like what what
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00:03:40.530made you dive into so i watch crapload a whiskey tube.
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00:03:44.73930 to 40 different channels or more probably and i'm
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00:03:47.459really into that community especially sob i
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00:03:50.179don't know if you guys watch any other whiskey tubers or any at
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00:03:52.919all but sob is like a father-son duo been watching
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00:03:55.779them for a long time and i've been involved in that community for
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00:03:59.379a while and a lot of people are like you know you got close to
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00:04:02.2992,000 bottles of whiskey you should probably do something with it
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00:04:05.019and since i watch so much youtube i was like maybe i'll
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00:04:08.139do youtube and i started the channel earlier this year it's been
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00:04:11.059good you know some of my best of videos have to
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00:04:17.259do with like reviews of whiskey or bourbon events like in kentucky basically
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00:04:21.159me bad-mouthing the kentucky bourbon festival that video blew up everyone wants
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00:04:27.619to hear you talk about something that is true negative stuff so that worked
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00:04:33.787That's good. Very cool. And you said you started that just earlier this year,
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00:04:36.087huh? Yeah, I started this year. January 6th of this year.
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00:04:40.647How much content do you normally do, like per week or month?
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00:04:43.767Yep. Every week I post a video Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
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00:04:47.847I've only missed one upload. It was a Friday a while ago.
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00:04:50.687I almost missed last night. I posted it at 2 o'clock this morning,
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00:04:54.047Wednesday's video. Oh, shit. On the West Coast, it's still counted.
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00:04:58.327Maybe on the East Coast, but it worked out on the West Coast. Yeah,
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00:05:01.247I watched that video this afternoon, and I was just like, he got that
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00:05:04.307he got that yeah he got that how the
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00:05:07.107fuck did he get that yeah the whole videos get
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00:05:09.867a lot of that bro so for people
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00:05:13.007that want to know what the hell jay's talking about where do
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00:05:15.767they find how do they find you obviously it channels under your name is
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00:05:18.747there you you can uh just search in youtube
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00:05:22.667carlos garcia whiskey it should pop up right away or cgs
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00:05:25.647yt channel carlos garcia's youtube channel and
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00:05:28.447that should pop it up too but carlos garcia whiskey is now popping it up
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00:05:31.327so nice awesome which is very cool so yeah
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00:05:34.227if you're listening to this make sure to head over to his youtube channel and
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00:05:37.487give a subscribe and like and you know all that fun shit
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00:05:40.467that the influencers say did you watch that latest video
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00:05:46.287i have not you should tell him which bottles broke oh well broke stag jr batch
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00:05:52.347two what and elijah craig barrel proof rye the new one i wasn't too sad about
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00:05:55.747that one because i feel like i get that again the stag jr batch two though yeah
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00:05:59.347i lost I saw that stag, and I'm like, oh, Cappy's going to cry.
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00:06:05.527Damn it. No, no, it's okay. It's all, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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00:06:07.907The Georgie stag made it, though.
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00:06:12.707There you go. It was a crazy month. Sounds like a good month.
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00:06:18.426So, so where were you on your last trip? I went to Dallas for a few days to
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00:06:20.446hang out with my army buddies for veterans day. Okay.
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00:06:22.686And then we also visited, actually I'm wearing the bracelet.
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00:06:27.566Sergeant Shanks is buried in Bonham, Texas, about like an hour and a half north of Dallas.
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00:06:30.406So we went up to the gravesite, hung out with his daughters.
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00:06:34.726And then a couple of days later, I went to Phoenix to hang out with my Air Force buddy.
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00:06:39.386We went to Whiskey Row and Prescott.
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00:06:47.026So that's where I spent a lot of my money. was up in that area cool cool so
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00:06:51.106when you went there did they have like a lot of the new stuff so they had the
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00:06:54.606older stuff just a mix of everything like at the bars in prescott,
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00:06:59.226so they had depending on the bar because it's like a whole like western type
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00:07:03.146thing like everything is there like a built in 1900 which i'm sure some of your
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00:07:07.806houses are like my house built in 1904 So I'm like, okay, this isn't that old.
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00:07:09.366Like, I don't know why everything's haunted here.
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00:07:13.826Like, my home street is haunted. You don't realize how old the East Coast is. Yeah.
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00:07:17.266So, you know, that's the whole thing is like, you know, Doc Holliday and all
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00:07:21.946these cowboys were in that area back in the day. And so there was a bunch of bars.
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00:07:25.866And to answer your question, there was some nice stuff, some newer stuff,
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00:07:29.466but they cater to more like not the biggest vendors, but depends on what bar
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00:07:30.826you go into. Gotcha. Okay.
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00:07:34.086You know, I got a poor William Lou Weller while I was up there.
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00:07:38.666No. So, you know, they have places that have crazy bottles. What's your take on that?
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00:07:43.326Willem Willer? We got a guy here that he just loves it. It's delicious.
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00:07:46.846It's delicious. I just got my very first bottle in Prescott.
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00:07:54.811Very cool. So obviously we're, you know, cigars, bourbon, all that kind of stuff.
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00:07:57.211A little, always like to get a little bit of history of our guests.
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00:08:00.291Like what, what got you started into the cigar community first?
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00:08:05.211Like we'll start there. So I've been smoking cigars since I was deployed to Afghanistan back in 06.
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00:08:08.491Off and on, like, you know, there's definitely when I was in Germany,
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00:08:11.531I wasn't really smoking that many cigars, but when Fort Drum smoked cigars.
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00:08:16.731But I would say I got really back into it maybe eight-ish years ago.
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00:08:20.811You know, I got one of those nice electric humidors with like a thousand cigars in it.
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00:08:24.411So, you know, once I go into something, I go full board in it.
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00:08:28.951That's why I have 2,000 bottles of whiskey in my house. A lot of cigars and a lot of guns.
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00:08:35.331I fucking like this guy. Sounds like a fun time. I decided to bring him. I fucking love this guy.
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00:08:40.631It's amazing. You know, the DEA or whatever or ATF would love to come to my house.
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00:08:44.571I got all their stuff that they're looking for.
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00:08:51.971Oh, shit. That was great. That's awesome. So do you remember like your first cigar experience?
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00:08:56.811I want to say it was a brick house in Afghanistan just because I think that's
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00:08:58.511what like we were smoking back then.
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00:09:02.351Right. Because I think that's the only thing people were able to get back then,
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00:09:03.851at least in where we were at.
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00:09:08.477But, yeah, even before that, I smoked, like, black and milds in high school
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00:09:10.657and stuff like that. Obviously, that's not the same thing.
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00:09:13.817I'm trying to say that. But, you know, I had a little bit of experience smoking
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00:09:20.437It's also where I started reading and ended reading books there.
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00:09:26.957Pretty sure it's the last time I read a full book. There you go. There you go.
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00:09:31.517And you know what? Here we go. Because now, let's just, I know we got a shit
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00:09:34.937ton of questions for them. But you have $10, right?
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00:09:40.457You walk into a humidor, has everything you can imagine, but you have $10. What are you buying?
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00:09:45.277Is the price of the cigar $10? Yes. Okay, so a Melanio.
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00:09:48.997Okay. Yeah. I was going to say I put drone if I had $20. See that?
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00:09:51.457Right there. Right there with my man, Jay.
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00:09:54.617A Melanio. You're fucking great. That's great. That's like my favorite cigar
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00:09:56.437under $10. Under $10 is great.
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00:10:00.657Can't go wrong. Can't go wrong. Yeah, Melanio is one of my favorite smokes.
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00:10:06.119Now, when it comes to cigars, are you like someone that just sticks to a certain
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00:10:08.879region? Like, are you all Nicaraguan, all Dominican?
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00:10:14.379Absolutely not. Okay. Just like my whiskey, I love variety. I love trying different things.
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00:10:18.739I went to Cuba earlier this year for a week, and then I was in Cuba a couple
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00:10:22.519years ago as well. So I brought back a lot of Cuban cigars.
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00:10:24.919There you go, ATF. More information for you.
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00:10:29.939It's still legal to bring them back, I think. Don't care.
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00:10:35.939I did. No one yelled at me, so there we are. I've been smoking some of the ones
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00:10:40.439from three years ago because I like to keep stuff on my humidor for a little while. Okay.
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00:10:43.659Because, again, you have so many, I kind of just, like, rotate them through.
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00:10:48.559Sure. But, yeah, my favorite cigar that I have is the Monocrystal No.
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00:10:53.719I got another box of that this year. That was, like, one of the things I told
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00:10:56.199our, like, we had, like, a little guy that was with us the whole time,
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00:11:00.679and he's a cigar Somali, a master cigar Somali-
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00:11:04.679working under like the masters of master guy we
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00:11:07.779met him too i was like it was really cool like our tour
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00:11:10.499guy we had a couple years ago was really
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00:11:13.219cool because more about the history this guy was all about the
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00:11:16.279cigar stuff and that's what we really wanted to do because all the guys went
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00:11:20.259with her just it was a guy's trip yeah we're all cigar cigar guys so we went
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00:11:24.259out to the fields and the farms we stayed there out overnight so we went to
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00:11:27.759a couple farms so it was a good time love going out there you know we donate
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00:11:30.819a lot of clothes to the farm people farm people.
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00:11:42.589That sounds like a really cool trip. Yeah, it does. So before we get too far
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00:11:45.809down the rabbit hole, I just took a sip of this, the first pour that we've got.
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00:11:50.809So I do want to get kind of just an introduction into the whiskey side of things, too.
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00:11:56.369Because obviously we have a few here and we're going to start drinking. And this was tasty.
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00:11:59.629Right. So this, Panopi came out with their first cigar batch.
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00:12:02.909This is Cigar Sessions. I think you guys all had this already, right? Yes.
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00:12:07.489Okay. So you guys are familiar with this. a lot this it was made to be peered
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00:12:12.089with a medium cigar which these are i'm guessing.
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00:12:15.689Yeah it's on that it's on the spectrum okay so perfect medium
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00:12:19.289or full yeah now right i would think it's a little bit more full now do
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00:12:21.989you guys know i'm sure you guys know you guys are way more in cigars than
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00:12:24.869i am but do you guys know sin cobert of
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00:12:28.089dissident cigars or lee marshall's stolen throne cigars
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00:12:30.849or those cigars no no i had to
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00:12:33.629look them up too it's not a cigar brands i'm familiar with i
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00:12:36.689actually met them at the kentucky bourbon festival they're in the penelope area
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00:12:39.789giving out free cigars so actually filing got cigars from
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00:12:42.829those brands okay but they worked with penelope to create
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00:12:45.729this oh no kidding to be paired with a medium uh
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00:12:48.729cigar okay okay their master you know rollers or
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00:12:51.949blenders whatever terms they are for those companies but
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00:12:55.769they created this but this is unlike any other
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00:12:58.889really cigar batch on the market because it's
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00:13:02.229a blend of american single malt rye and bourbon where
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00:13:05.089most of it's you know bourbon finished in 50
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00:13:08.189different things and now anything that says cigar blend
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00:13:10.869or cigar malt there's no legal definition for that it
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00:13:14.469could just right you could just put that on any label and just try to it's a
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00:13:19.329marketing that's all it is but i do buy everything that says cigar blend or
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00:13:24.529something on a bottle so marketing really works for me there's a reason they
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00:13:29.209do it yeah for people like this guy very cool yeah this i mean it's it's really good.
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00:13:32.369I have not had this before, so this is my first taste of it. It's really nice.
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00:13:36.649It's got a little bit of a kick, a little bit of a spice in the back end, just on the finish.
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00:13:39.729It's really smooth off the rip, though. It's nice.
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00:13:47.563I did a lot of reviews on cigar bourbons this year, and this is one of the lower reviewed ones.
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00:13:49.823But people just say it's a lot better with a cigar.
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00:13:55.563I mean, so far, so good. I feel good about it. It's definitely a good pour.
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00:13:59.763I do think that cigar we're smoking is a little strong for it.
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00:14:05.003Yeah, it overpowers it. Yeah, it definitely overpowers it. But it's well balanced.
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00:14:07.523I don't think the proof's too high. It's got a lot of good fragrance.
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00:14:12.243So to that point, I went to the Florida barn smoker.
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00:14:18.883So I did the 20-acre cigar with this one because they were just abundantly handing those out. Yep.
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00:14:23.163And the flavor of this came out way more than it's coming out now.
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00:14:26.763Like you're saying, this overpowers it a million percent.
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00:14:31.463Yeah. But at the same time, I think it complements the reverse way because some
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00:14:35.923of that heat and that edge on the cigar is smoothed out by the bourbon.
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00:14:38.383Yeah, a million. So I don't know if you've tried to smoke yourself.
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00:14:41.883Cigar after the bourbon yeah there's a little more nuance retrohale everything
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00:14:44.923so i retrohale everything you're gonna get a little different profile i'm that
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00:14:45.983dead dude i don't want to choke,
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00:14:54.383when i do i just cry all the time so i don't even do it i'm like fuck that i
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00:14:58.483don't want to choke and die and yeah i'll do it once in a while but every puff
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00:15:02.203i retrohale yeah and it's just part of my routine i'm good for like once or
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00:15:07.603twice a cigar that's because this guy's a savage that's right that's why i got a backup on the.
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00:15:13.763So while we're talking about whiskey and bourbon it's kind
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00:15:17.483of the same question like where where did you get started in your collection
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00:15:23.083and getting into the whiskey community and okay so i have a few friends that
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00:15:26.843were definitely into whiskey before i was into whiskey i was you know me and
00:15:26.843 -->
00:15:32.743my wife were into wines for a while then the craft beer you know ipa stronger the better,
00:15:33.643 -->
00:15:36.903you know i have a excel spreadsheet on my phone with like a thousand different
00:15:36.903 -->
00:15:40.403ipas that i review yeah yeah that's what i do spreadsheets.
00:15:45.543 -->
00:15:49.823Don't use any spreadsheets at my job and then my friends you know slowly got
00:15:49.823 -->
00:15:54.843me into whiskey and then once i got into it you know once i get into something
00:15:54.843 -->
00:15:59.383it's full throttle all the way in so that's kind of what happened but i have
00:15:59.383 -->
00:16:01.423a couple friends i could definitely like point to,
00:16:02.063 -->
00:16:05.083that'd be like, yeah, you definitely got me to whiskey because you were always
00:16:05.083 -->
00:16:06.683like pushing it over the years.
00:16:07.827 -->
00:16:10.607Good no no go for
00:16:10.607 -->
00:16:13.767it oh i was gonna say when it comes to your whiskeys you know now that you've done
00:16:13.767 -->
00:16:16.707it a few years you have definitely a developed
00:16:16.707 -->
00:16:19.367palate do you find that you're more of
00:16:19.367 -->
00:16:22.947a weeded guy you like your stuff a little more aged do
00:16:22.947 -->
00:16:25.867you like the secondary aging on like
00:16:25.867 -->
00:16:29.087different casts like a wine cask or an armagnac or you
00:16:29.087 -->
00:16:32.887know what's your what are your thoughts on that so i like everything except
00:16:32.887 -->
00:16:36.727for dickle and whistle pig wow here we
00:16:36.727 -->
00:16:39.567go all right all right has and it's mainly because
00:16:39.567 -->
00:16:43.007dickle has a minerally note like uh the
00:16:43.007 -->
00:16:46.047flintstones vitamin note yeah and that's not my favorite so people
00:16:46.047 -->
00:16:49.367do obviously they sell them they have them all over the stores but
00:16:49.367 -->
00:16:52.307that's one of my lines i don't like whistle pig
00:16:52.307 -->
00:16:55.027also never i've had a bunch of
00:16:55.027 -->
00:16:57.807whistle pigs that i haven't really enjoyed but basically
00:16:57.807 -->
00:17:00.487everything else i will drink but the
00:17:00.487 -->
00:17:05.727things i tend to are higher proof higher age okay so like a georgie stag sounds
00:17:05.727 -->
00:17:11.267oh he sounds like who that boy sound like i mean i think that's kind of a natural
00:17:11.267 -->
00:17:15.127progression you kind of chase the game in just about everything starting cigars
00:17:15.127 -->
00:17:18.347you tend to start mild and move up and then pretty soon you're just smoking strong stuff,
00:17:19.368 -->
00:17:21.508I don't know the last time. You
00:17:21.508 -->
00:17:23.268guys were talking about this is the higher proof. This is the one-on-one.
00:17:23.908 -->
00:17:27.108This might be the lowest proof thing I have drank in the past a month.
00:17:27.248 -->
00:17:28.508To me, this is apple juice.
00:17:29.368 -->
00:17:32.628I just say it. Everything else here is higher proof.
00:17:34.268 -->
00:17:37.848I mean, I think the minimum he'll drink usually is 120 or something.
00:17:38.108 -->
00:17:41.868Yeah, I'm a savage. I mean, if he can't set it on fire, he probably won't. But you know what?
00:17:42.308 -->
00:17:49.708He just spoke to my exactly what. The higher proof, to me, the better the taste. It's richer.
00:17:50.188 -->
00:17:54.808That's why I love it. And it just gives you that real flavor that you want.
00:17:54.948 -->
00:17:57.248Like, I mean, one-on-one, it tastes good.
00:17:58.068 -->
00:18:02.368I'm not going to take anything away from it. But the higher the proof for me is like, shit, you know?
00:18:02.528 -->
00:18:05.328Yeah, when you're not watering it down, you get all the flavor.
00:18:05.348 -->
00:18:09.108Yeah, I do no ice. Some people here do ice. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
00:18:09.268 -->
00:18:12.348But anyways, we're not going to tell you. That's a whole different thing. Sosa.
00:18:14.548 -->
00:18:17.528Even the bottles themselves, though, to get the lower proof,
00:18:17.528 -->
00:18:19.008if they add water to lower the proof.
00:18:19.288 -->
00:18:24.028To lower, yeah. You're already, yeah. Like, Ego Rare right out of the barrel is delicious.
00:18:24.368 -->
00:18:28.988And at 90 proof, you know, it's okay, but it's not what it is out of the barrel.
00:18:29.168 -->
00:18:32.228Right. Which you can hopefully try one day at the Buffalo Trace,
00:18:32.328 -->
00:18:34.588but it's a whole different thing. Can we do that?
00:18:35.048 -->
00:18:37.468Just go down to Kentucky and just start drinking out of the barrel?
00:18:37.568 -->
00:18:39.728Let's make it happen. You can do anything. Let's do it.
00:18:40.128 -->
00:18:44.168You can do anything. Hey, we did it at Makers. Well, yeah, Makers.
00:18:44.308 -->
00:18:47.008We did a single barrel of Makers. It was fucking great. That was a,
00:18:47.048 -->
00:18:52.388that was a great trip, but, but with the little pucks, like switching out the
00:18:52.388 -->
00:18:54.228different, uh, blends. Yep. Yeah.
00:18:55.048 -->
00:18:58.668Yeah. It was great. I did one of those earlier this year too, with Conte.
00:18:58.888 -->
00:19:04.208Cause I know the reason I even know you guys is cause Conte was doing the alcohol for a party.
00:19:05.082 -->
00:19:07.842With Ryan. It was Ryan here. I was helping Ryan. Right.
00:19:08.362 -->
00:19:10.962That was a good night. Yeah, we have one of those here. I mean,
00:19:11.082 -->
00:19:13.382we're not big fans of Rabbit Hole.
00:19:13.922 -->
00:19:16.722Rabbit Hole. At least a couple of us are not. Rabbit Hole sucks.
00:19:17.042 -->
00:19:19.602Rabbit Hole always. He hates us. He hates everyone.
00:19:19.802 -->
00:19:25.142So there's, SLB did a pick of Rabbit Hole Dengengar. It tastes like pecan pie.
00:19:25.622 -->
00:19:30.642It is delicious. If you like pecan pie, that's what, pecan pie sucks. Okay.
00:19:31.802 -->
00:19:37.222Holy shit. Well, there you go. and Kathy has struck again we got some shit to
00:19:37.222 -->
00:19:42.382unpack with that one fuck I'm agreeing with you I don't like pecan pie.
00:19:44.098 -->
00:19:48.038So, when you're sitting at home, obviously for your channel,
00:19:48.218 -->
00:19:52.898you're going to pick something certain to drink or review or smoke or whatever.
00:19:52.898 -->
00:19:56.038But if you're just sitting at home having a cigar or having a drink,
00:19:56.218 -->
00:20:00.258do you try and pair things together or do you just kind of go with it?
00:20:00.578 -->
00:20:04.678I like this. I like this. So, if I'm at home because I have a little cigar lounge
00:20:04.678 -->
00:20:07.718on my house, if I'm out there smoking, I'm grabbing a scotch.
00:20:08.138 -->
00:20:11.618I like pairing scotches with cigars. My man. Okay.
00:20:12.138 -->
00:20:17.758That's my go-to all the time. Like, I'll take a Lafroig 10 or a nicer Lafroig
00:20:17.758 -->
00:20:20.898or a Lagavulin 16 and just go out there and pair that.
00:20:21.038 -->
00:20:25.598But I do grab some of these cigar ones just to kind of see what cigars pair better.
00:20:25.798 -->
00:20:28.478But I'll just grab a random bottle. Maybe it's like, you know,
00:20:28.598 -->
00:20:30.778if I have a bottle that's close to dying.
00:20:31.018 -->
00:20:33.778That's the one you're grabbing? I'll grab that. I can't space on my shelves.
00:20:35.478 -->
00:20:37.858I have a lot of my friends that come over and try to drink my whiskey.
00:20:38.018 -->
00:20:42.698They just don't do a good enough job. So if you need more friends, let us know.
00:20:44.378 -->
00:20:48.638So that's interesting. So you would lean towards a scotch.
00:20:49.178 -->
00:20:53.098Obviously, you drink a lot of bourbon. How do you feel about Rise and maybe
00:20:53.098 -->
00:20:56.558like your Tennessee whiskey or Colorado whiskey?
00:20:56.758 -->
00:21:00.838Like where are they like in a hierarchy for you? So Jack Daniels,
00:21:00.978 -->
00:21:02.398you said Tennessee whiskey.
00:21:02.618 -->
00:21:05.938I call that bourbon because I don't care what marketing they throw out there.
00:21:06.758 -->
00:21:11.198That's my distillery of the year. Jack Daniels has put absolute bangers out
00:21:11.198 -->
00:21:15.318there this year at an affordable price for what they are.
00:21:15.758 -->
00:21:18.558Right now, Jack Daniels 14 is one of my favorite bottles of the year.
00:21:18.738 -->
00:21:22.178I still haven't found something that came out this year that beat it.
00:21:22.378 -->
00:21:24.158Now, I haven't compared the George C.
00:21:24.458 -->
00:21:28.218Stagg from this year versus head-to-head yet, but...
00:21:28.803 -->
00:21:34.863It probably will, because I do a, I'll, I will do a top 25 of 2025 tournament.
00:21:35.343 -->
00:21:39.083So it'd be like every, it'd be like five bottles over, over like a few videos.
00:21:39.303 -->
00:21:40.903I did it early this year for 24.
00:21:41.623 -->
00:21:44.983And so the George Shies, I will definitely be in there. The Jack Daniels 14
00:21:44.983 -->
00:21:45.723will definitely be there.
00:21:45.823 -->
00:21:50.183So they might eventually go against each other, but I just did Jack Daniels
00:21:50.183 -->
00:21:52.063versus Wild Turkey for distillery of the year.
00:21:52.163 -->
00:21:54.203Cause Wild Turkey also came out with a lot of good bottles this year.
00:21:54.283 -->
00:21:58.943Yes, they did. But their pricing is double what Jack Daniels did.
00:21:59.523 -->
00:22:03.363So, you know, Jack Daniels is doing it a lot cheaper.
00:22:04.603 -->
00:22:09.923Wild Turkey is owned by a big corporation and they like to push the money for profits.
00:22:10.143 -->
00:22:13.843Jack Daniels actually read an article today. They lost money this quarter.
00:22:14.363 -->
00:22:17.663So, you know, I don't know if they're going to try to push up the pricing just
00:22:17.663 -->
00:22:19.643to kind of get some of that revenue, but we'll see.
00:22:20.323 -->
00:22:23.203Might be time to snatch up some Jack Daniels bottles. Oh, yeah.
00:22:23.203 -->
00:22:26.023Now, I'm not talking about Jack Daniels 7, specifically. No.
00:22:26.263 -->
00:22:29.143But that is obviously their moneymaker. But, you know, Jack Daniels 14,
00:22:29.303 -->
00:22:31.123Jack Daniels 12, Jack Daniels 10 this year.
00:22:31.303 -->
00:22:36.583They came out with the rye, the something hill. I can't think of it. Koi Hill? No.
00:22:37.103 -->
00:22:40.643So the Koi Hill is the bourbon. They came out with the rye, it's like...
00:22:41.532 -->
00:22:45.412Tanager Hill or something with a T-Hill. I can't believe I can't think of it
00:22:45.412 -->
00:22:46.932right now. But that just came out.
00:22:47.092 -->
00:22:50.512I haven't had it, but I've heard it's fantastic.
00:22:50.912 -->
00:22:53.172But, you know, they've come out with a few different bottles.
00:22:53.292 -->
00:22:55.552They came out with a toasted, the Blue Label one that came out earlier.
00:22:55.672 -->
00:22:58.072I have had that. That's delicious. All over Connecticut.
00:22:58.312 -->
00:23:01.052Apparently no one else in America is getting it. We're getting it all in Connecticut.
00:23:01.292 -->
00:23:03.612So I shipped out probably 20 of those bottles to people.
00:23:03.872 -->
00:23:07.092Keep it here. Keep it here. That was delicious. Yeah. But that's like,
00:23:07.112 -->
00:23:09.412you know, a $70 bottle and it's supposed to be a shelfer.
00:23:09.932 -->
00:23:13.252And Jack Daniels just put it out there and it was a special release a few years
00:23:13.252 -->
00:23:16.172ago. Is it the Tanured? Tanured, yes. Tanured.
00:23:16.932 -->
00:23:18.952Tanured Hill. Fuck, I love Google. Let's go.
00:23:22.032 -->
00:23:24.672Keep saying that. Maybe we'll get a sponsorship. I know. Come on,
00:23:24.732 -->
00:23:28.172baby, let's go. Fuck, I was getting confused with a Tanager from Still Austin,
00:23:28.232 -->
00:23:29.592but I knew it wasn't that.
00:23:30.192 -->
00:23:33.952But, yeah. Jack Tan, it was a great distillery. But, yeah, I drink everything.
00:23:34.252 -->
00:23:35.612Rye, I got a bunch of Rye's, too.
00:23:37.052 -->
00:23:39.952This year hasn't been that good, at least for me, with the Rye's.
00:23:39.952 -->
00:23:42.052The last year I thought was like the year of the rye.
00:23:42.392 -->
00:23:44.992This year is more, it started off like the year of the wheat whiskey.
00:23:45.412 -->
00:23:47.072Cause Heaven Hill came out with their,
00:23:47.996 -->
00:23:51.556batch 19 or 20 that was wheat whiskey makers mark
00:23:51.556 -->
00:23:54.636came out with their wheat whiskey and it was good star hill farm yeah
00:23:54.636 -->
00:23:57.416star hill farm that's such a home run and that's
00:23:57.416 -->
00:24:00.196a pain in the ass talking about things that are allocated or whatever come on
00:24:00.196 -->
00:24:02.836bro it's like i was able to get actually i was able
00:24:02.836 -->
00:24:05.796to get two bottles this year yeah you fucker yeah it was
00:24:05.796 -->
00:24:08.656good though thank god for he cheered and you know
00:24:08.656 -->
00:24:11.696but it's like i haven't seen it or if i do see
00:24:11.696 -->
00:24:14.776it you know guys are playing the game you know it's like
00:24:14.776 -->
00:24:17.636yeah they want to go up yeah it's like 100 bucks on
00:24:17.636 -->
00:24:20.636that bottle all right i'll play with you but i'm not paying three
00:24:20.636 -->
00:24:23.536or four hundred no i don't know and in connecticut you
00:24:23.536 -->
00:24:26.236know we have the misfortune of like 90 of our liquor
00:24:26.236 -->
00:24:32.536stores are shit yes so you just have to go to the 10 that are msrp and just
00:24:32.536 -->
00:24:37.696become really loyal and then they'll text you like i woke up today to two text
00:24:37.696 -->
00:24:40.996messages from two different stores like hey we got this in today nice so If
00:24:40.996 -->
00:24:44.556you spend enough money at the one store or two stores, they'll,
00:24:44.556 -->
00:24:45.556they'll definitely hook you up.
00:24:45.656 -->
00:24:49.176That's, that's a secret in Connecticut. Don't do it.
00:24:50.156 -->
00:24:51.596Save all the bottles for me.
00:24:53.296 -->
00:24:58.756I mean, you know, you say that, but I think it kind of plays into kind of what
00:24:58.756 -->
00:25:00.016we talk about all the time here.
00:25:00.176 -->
00:25:04.396And like, that's, you know, community and that goes for cigars, that goes for bourbon.
00:25:04.616 -->
00:25:08.196Like that shit's good. you develop friendships and
00:25:08.196 -->
00:25:11.876relationships in the community and yeah
00:25:11.876 -->
00:25:15.356you're gonna get insider tips you're gonna you know all that kind of stuff it
00:25:15.356 -->
00:25:19.336just comes down to relationships and community yeah not the cigar one we don't
00:25:19.336 -->
00:25:23.536have that one i have a buddy at cigar cut from old elk so old elk has done three
00:25:23.536 -->
00:25:28.716different cigar batches and cigar this is a cigar cut one if you notice the
00:25:28.716 -->
00:25:31.436top comes like way off too easy. Yeah.
00:25:31.796 -->
00:25:37.896That is a problem with old elk. Old elk bottles are notorious for like their tops. Yeah. Flimsily.
00:25:38.724 -->
00:25:42.424One time I took off the top and it was still in the plastic on it.
00:25:42.504 -->
00:25:45.144And it just came off with the plastic all together. Oh, shit.
00:25:45.604 -->
00:25:48.784But they're notorious. So I'll just let you guys know. Old Elk bottles switch
00:25:48.784 -->
00:25:51.024off the tops. I just noticed that today. I was like, damn it.
00:25:51.504 -->
00:25:54.864Cool. So yeah, so we did just pour another Old Elk cigar cut.
00:25:55.104 -->
00:25:56.864It's fucking delicious. Let's proof I not.
00:25:57.944 -->
00:26:01.444Talk while I try and read. Do you want to make glasses? I think I do.
00:26:01.984 -->
00:26:05.544It's on the bottom. It's more of your typical cigar blend. It has four different
00:26:05.544 -->
00:26:07.044finishes on it. Light in here sucks.
00:26:07.504 -->
00:26:10.804Can you see that? I think it's a 110, 55%.
00:26:13.244 -->
00:26:16.924Please hold while we... This is just fun watching this. He got it.
00:26:17.104 -->
00:26:19.084He got it. He got it. He got it. Yeah, 110.
00:26:19.584 -->
00:26:23.624Nailed it. And what's the MSRP on that? That one, I think, is about 120.
00:26:24.084 -->
00:26:28.124Right, because... Oh, shit. A little store near me had a bottle on the shelf,
00:26:28.144 -->
00:26:29.744and I asked the guy, you know, what does this run?
00:26:30.224 -->
00:26:32.604And he took it to the back, and I thought he was going to ask the manager.
00:26:32.964 -->
00:26:35.764So he looks it up on the computer, and then, you know, he goes to his phone,
00:26:35.884 -->
00:26:37.064and he's like, yeah, that's 150.
00:26:37.584 -->
00:26:39.944What the fuck? Oh, come on. It's
00:26:39.944 -->
00:26:44.524a big... Like, scan it in the fucking POS and see what it comes up as.
00:26:44.564 -->
00:26:47.344They're just checking the secondary websites to see the price. Yeah.
00:26:49.204 -->
00:26:52.144Again, there's good stores. You start knowing people. If you guys are from West
00:26:52.144 -->
00:26:56.064Haven area, I'm from West Haven, Yield and West Haven is the best store in this little area.
00:26:56.184 -->
00:26:58.624Then Wines and More and Milford, that's a really good store. Yeah.
00:26:58.964 -->
00:27:02.504I'm just thinking of stores around. That's Corey's, right? Corey. That's Corey, yeah.
00:27:03.104 -->
00:27:05.504Corey's good to me. He's hooked me up. Yeah, Corey's good. Yeah,
00:27:05.564 -->
00:27:08.184we've had him on the show. Yes. A couple times, I think.
00:27:08.504 -->
00:27:11.944Yeah, I'm not too far from the police department, so I'll swing at the York Package.
00:27:12.424 -->
00:27:15.864And their prices are great. Selection, so-so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:15.984 -->
00:27:18.844But they occasionally get a nice bottle like this in there.
00:27:19.584 -->
00:27:23.004That's where I got my Jack Daniels 12. Paid a little bit up for it,
00:27:23.004 -->
00:27:25.904only because he said, oh, I'll get the Jack Daniels 14 for you the next day.
00:27:26.004 -->
00:27:27.764He never got it, so I was like, damn it.
00:27:29.064 -->
00:27:32.684I was competing with you. I don't go there that often, though.
00:27:32.824 -->
00:27:36.264I stick to yield over there. Because there was also the liquor store on the beach.
00:27:36.764 -->
00:27:40.204His pricing is all over the place. Sometimes he'll put something up there that's
00:27:40.204 -->
00:27:45.044allocated for MSRP, then he'll, he'll want like 300 for something that doesn't
00:27:45.044 -->
00:27:47.284even get that on second. Yeah. I'm like, what are you doing?
00:27:47.584 -->
00:27:50.264Jesus. Yeah. Maybe the wifi was down that day.
00:27:52.964 -->
00:27:54.944He misspelled something. I was looking up something different.
00:27:55.244 -->
00:27:58.724So, so Carlos, you've been to a couple bourbon events. You mentioned that you
00:27:58.724 -->
00:27:59.984were at the Kentucky bourbon festival.
00:28:00.888 -->
00:28:06.008Do you have any other events on your list that you maybe want to hit next year in 26?
00:28:06.348 -->
00:28:09.968So this year I went to the Kentucky Bourbon Festival, which is like the big, big one.
00:28:10.168 -->
00:28:12.928And then like a month later, I went to Bourbon on the Banks,
00:28:13.568 -->
00:28:18.288which LF Heritage, used to be Limestone Farms Distillery.
00:28:18.528 -->
00:28:21.428They actually got me the ticket to go. I had to pay for my flight and everything,
00:28:21.628 -->
00:28:24.628but they took care of my ticket. So I appreciate them for doing that.
00:28:24.748 -->
00:28:27.248But that was way better than Kentucky Bourbon Festival.
00:28:27.528 -->
00:28:31.228Really? I go over both of them in multiple videos about why.
00:28:31.468 -->
00:28:34.548Okay. The Kentucky Bourbon Festival was basically a clown show.
00:28:34.728 -->
00:28:36.708It was definitely a money grab.
00:28:37.148 -->
00:28:42.948And I explained all the problems and solutions to it. It's easy when you're a clown.
00:28:44.288 -->
00:28:48.248I'm laughing because I saw this video and I, you know, there were portions I
00:28:48.248 -->
00:28:50.548literally had to pause because I was giggling so much.
00:28:50.748 -->
00:28:54.288And I was like, yeah, get them, get them. No, I went there with 10 guys.
00:28:54.488 -->
00:28:57.188They're all whiskey, crazy people like me. we stayed at
00:28:57.188 -->
00:29:00.268airbnb so like hanging out at the airbnb after at
00:29:00.268 -->
00:29:03.408night and stuff like that with like you know this the table sides like this
00:29:03.408 -->
00:29:07.828full of just crazy bourbons and whiskeys that was a good part but like waiting
00:29:07.828 -->
00:29:13.388in line all day yeah that was bullshit now were you going there to drink or
00:29:13.388 -->
00:29:18.648were you going there to hunt both i go everywhere to drink it's what i do,
00:29:19.948 -->
00:29:23.128you know if i can pick up some good bottles while i'm out there yeah yeah you
00:29:23.128 -->
00:29:27.308know two birds one I don't have these crazy haul videos just because I sit on my ass.
00:29:29.148 -->
00:29:32.568I'm always out there looking. I don't go hunting in Connecticut like I used
00:29:32.568 -->
00:29:36.068to. I used to do a whole circuit across the whole state looking for stuff.
00:29:36.308 -->
00:29:41.128You know, I'm now at a point where I have the stores texting me when stuff comes in.
00:29:41.728 -->
00:29:45.748And so that's, you know, years of spending a lot of money. That's kind of what
00:29:45.748 -->
00:29:48.528you get to. But just knock over the camera. That's fine.
00:29:50.248 -->
00:29:53.768No, no, you're good. You're good. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:56.738 -->
00:30:01.478Don't pump it again. That's not what I got. That's a small YouTuber.
00:30:03.418 -->
00:30:06.878I can't afford another one. Live TV. I love it. We edit that.
00:30:08.238 -->
00:30:10.898Now we don't. Just don't. Leave that shit in there.
00:30:11.918 -->
00:30:15.178Well, it's funny because I know that when you were here last time,
00:30:15.318 -->
00:30:17.078you were talking about preparing that video. No.
00:30:17.278 -->
00:30:21.178And we were eager to see what you were going to say because we had gone to the previous two.
00:30:21.418 -->
00:30:24.798Right. I remember you guys talking about that. And we went there with a totally
00:30:24.798 -->
00:30:26.698different mindset. Like, we weren't going to go hunting.
00:30:26.958 -->
00:30:28.858We were going to go. Yeah, we weren't hunting. If something cool popped up,
00:30:28.918 -->
00:30:31.918we would get it. Yeah. So we were basically part of the clown show,
00:30:32.078 -->
00:30:33.078just drinking and trying.
00:30:33.438 -->
00:30:36.958Oh, that's not the clown show. The clown show was waiting in line and didn't be disappointed.
00:30:37.518 -->
00:30:39.058Oh, yeah. Because they ran out. You wait in line for an hour,
00:30:39.098 -->
00:30:40.958then nothing. So, you know.
00:30:41.278 -->
00:30:45.678But Burbank on the Banks is perfect for that. So Kentucky Burbank Festival basically
00:30:45.678 -->
00:30:49.178had the one side that you could just go from one place to one place and drink.
00:30:49.418 -->
00:30:54.878Burbank on the Banks was basically that. It was just a bunch of places all in
00:30:54.878 -->
00:30:56.718one row. You just go back to back.
00:30:56.758 -->
00:31:00.458There were no lines at all. See, we got to do that. That's the next one.
00:31:00.618 -->
00:31:03.398Yeah. Check it up. That's the one I'm definitely going to next year.
00:31:03.898 -->
00:31:08.298We might join you. Yeah. The people from Burma Banks said that they'll actually
00:31:08.298 -->
00:31:10.758give me a ticket this time because they saw my review.
00:31:10.838 -->
00:31:14.578They're using me in their marketing already for next year. Oh, wow.
00:31:15.038 -->
00:31:18.478All right. Well, that's cool, I guess. That's great. That's awesome, bro.
00:31:19.818 -->
00:31:24.218A couple years ago, I went to Cigar Aficionado and Whiskey Advocate.
00:31:24.398 -->
00:31:27.538They did a combined event down in Miami.
00:31:27.778 -->
00:31:29.878Have you been to the Whiskey Advocate one? No.
00:31:30.418 -->
00:31:34.138That one was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. It wasn't as big as...
00:31:35.178 -->
00:31:39.018I mean, there was representation there. They had definitely had some good hooch
00:31:39.018 -->
00:31:41.078there. Pretty ladies. But.
00:31:42.518 -->
00:31:46.218God damn you. But it was not like the festival.
00:31:46.598 -->
00:31:51.838You know, indoor, a lot of cigars. It was cool. But yeah, that definitely was worth going.
00:31:52.358 -->
00:31:55.698I don't know if they, I don't know if they, I know they did it in Miami.
00:31:55.698 -->
00:31:58.278I think they did another one in Vegas. I got to check.
00:31:58.658 -->
00:32:01.478But yeah, that might be. Something to just check out.
00:32:01.738 -->
00:32:05.078There's festivals all the time. Right. So, but.
00:32:05.178 -->
00:32:08.398I never actually went to Kentucky ever before this year. And I went there three
00:32:08.398 -->
00:32:11.138times there this year. So much. Shit.
00:32:11.898 -->
00:32:15.598You started a channel and now you're just, yeah, now he's all over the place.
00:32:15.738 -->
00:32:19.438I went there in May, around May at least, with Conte to do a bunch of picks.
00:32:19.678 -->
00:32:23.958And that was like my first time. And going to all the distilleries and Louisville
00:32:23.958 -->
00:32:28.478and all that stuff with someone that goes there all the time and shows you the
00:32:28.478 -->
00:32:30.078ropes and everything was amazing.
00:32:30.198 -->
00:32:32.918That was great. because he has like locker like
00:32:32.918 -->
00:32:38.138you know lockers like this at whiskey bars wow and like you can go in and there's
00:32:38.138 -->
00:32:41.398you know places completely reserved out for months in advance and he's like
00:32:41.398 -->
00:32:45.038oh yeah like there's a table for like eight of us over in the back for us i'm
00:32:45.038 -->
00:32:49.578like what is going on yeah that's it was like he was like a vip in that area
00:32:49.578 -->
00:32:52.658that's definitely a good travel partner yeah yeah,
00:32:53.238 -->
00:32:57.498it's like traveling with lou in the dr it's like a rock star yeah it's like
00:32:57.498 -->
00:33:05.838you think this guy's cool you know it's like damn bro sorry wow love you he's right here,
00:33:06.798 -->
00:33:08.138i can hear you.
00:33:10.539 -->
00:33:15.199Oh, man. This old elk is good, though. Oh, this old elk. I finally got a step
00:33:15.199 -->
00:33:17.219of it. A little bit more spice on this one.
00:33:17.419 -->
00:33:22.399Right? A little bit, but it's still, I'd almost say smoother than the Penelope.
00:33:22.659 -->
00:33:24.479But you got the spice on it, which is great.
00:33:24.839 -->
00:33:28.679I love it. It doesn't kick you as hard. I would say that still,
00:33:29.179 -->
00:33:34.679this is probably still a little heavy for that, but we're coming to a better blend.
00:33:35.539 -->
00:33:39.219We're building up. Uh-oh. So everything I always do is in proof order.
00:33:39.219 -->
00:33:43.719Like i i host a monthly whiskey cigar club we just did it this past sunday and
00:33:43.719 -->
00:33:49.519i just find 12 bottles that i want to open up because they're my crack crack
00:33:49.519 -->
00:33:50.839crack baby i was about to say crack babies,
00:33:53.259 -->
00:33:58.359your crack open bottles fresh crack guinea pigs oh that's crack guinea pigs
00:33:58.359 -->
00:34:00.319so i i open them that still sounds bad.
00:34:04.359 -->
00:34:08.299So i usually crack open bottles for them and then i get to review them on the
00:34:08.299 -->
00:34:10.619checks i don't i try I try not to do any fresh crack reviews.
00:34:10.859 -->
00:34:13.879I let a little air into the bottles, give it a little bit of air. Yep.
00:34:14.339 -->
00:34:18.379But sometimes like the George C. Stag I reviewed on the channel and they didn't get to try it.
00:34:18.519 -->
00:34:21.619And so I let them try it. You know, that was the last one out of the 12,
00:34:21.839 -->
00:34:23.619but it's always in proof order.
00:34:23.739 -->
00:34:26.939So I just put them in proof order and that's how that goes.
00:34:27.814 -->
00:34:31.014All right. Well, so far, so good. Hell yeah, man.
00:34:32.414 -->
00:34:36.334So transition a little bit back to cigars, and we actually do the same thing for bourbons.
00:34:36.834 -->
00:34:42.494We'd like to ask this pretty much on every guest. What is like your go-to cigar?
00:34:42.494 -->
00:34:43.854Do you have a go-to cigar?
00:34:43.994 -->
00:34:50.014If you did, what is it? And what's the one that you would smoke if money was not an object?
00:34:50.574 -->
00:34:54.714It'd probably be like Patron 19, was it 24? 26.
00:34:55.414 -->
00:35:01.19426 and 64, right? 26 and 64. Those two are like the ones I would smoke all the
00:35:01.194 -->
00:35:03.294time if they were a dollar. Yeah.
00:35:04.154 -->
00:35:08.374But if I just have a box of something, that's usually what I'll smoke more of
00:35:08.374 -->
00:35:09.674just because I have a lot of them.
00:35:10.294 -->
00:35:12.934Again, it's just like the whiskey where like. It changes all the time.
00:35:13.034 -->
00:35:15.674I open up the thing and I see what I have a bunch of. I'm like,
00:35:15.754 -->
00:35:18.374okay, I'll grab that. So I don't feel so bad if it's like the last one. Right.
00:35:19.994 -->
00:35:22.954That's kind of how I open it and see what's a lot of.
00:35:22.954 -->
00:35:29.034Is there like a a manufacturer or a region that you tend to skew more towards
00:35:29.034 -->
00:35:33.434like are you more Nicaraguan do you like my fathers or yeah my fathers are good
00:35:33.434 -->
00:35:36.754Nicaraguan for sure I would I'll buy any like New World,
00:35:37.354 -->
00:35:41.954drone JJ Fernandez Fuente Oliva,
00:35:42.695 -->
00:35:46.875okay so so all all over the place i'm i
00:35:46.875 -->
00:35:49.735am not again picky on anything i get
00:35:49.735 -->
00:35:54.355it i'm the same way i'm i don't think i've bought the same thing twice in a
00:35:54.355 -->
00:36:01.115week yeah i gotta take a break go take a break but no stop me back you know
00:36:01.115 -->
00:36:05.795why okay there's one cigar that i don't think a lot people know about but i
00:36:05.795 -->
00:36:09.395i bought a whole box of it just because it said breakfast in portugal,
00:36:09.955 -->
00:36:12.715i think it's coa i'm not 100 sure on
00:36:12.715 -->
00:36:15.395that but i think it is but it's breakfast in portugal i'm
00:36:15.395 -->
00:36:20.135portuguese i was like oh i gotta get the cigar portugal on it i absolutely it's
00:36:20.135 -->
00:36:24.455you know it's a light very light cigar but it's perfect with like a sweeter
00:36:24.455 -->
00:36:28.295coffee in the morning it's literally what i would have for breakfast yeah yeah
00:36:28.295 -->
00:36:32.095i would have it for breakfast in portugal i'd bring it with me when i got it
00:36:32.095 -->
00:36:34.655and i'm like this you know those aren't instructions.
00:36:38.655 -->
00:36:44.375But yeah that's like my favorite uh breakfast cigar but is there something that
00:36:44.375 -->
00:36:49.115you know kind of your unicorn like something you've wanted to try can't find or,
00:36:50.915 -->
00:36:53.895i was gonna say amazon basement but i got a bunch this year,
00:36:54.575 -->
00:36:57.515so it's not like whiskey where i definitely have a unicorn
00:36:57.515 -->
00:37:00.655list i'm not because usually the
00:37:00.655 -->
00:37:03.675cigars they're not as rare like you can find them almost
00:37:03.675 -->
00:37:06.695or they're just stupid expensive because
00:37:06.695 -->
00:37:09.655there's one cigar i saw was like 75 and i was like i
00:37:09.655 -->
00:37:13.235don't know if i want to buy the cigar yeah now
00:37:13.235 -->
00:37:17.635meanwhile i spent like three thousand dollars on double ego rare freaking bottle
00:37:17.635 -->
00:37:24.015and completely justify that in my head so whatever that tends to last a little
00:37:24.015 -->
00:37:27.395bit longer than a cigar yeah well especially because that's in a box it's out
00:37:27.395 -->
00:37:31.095of a box like my friends have to go through a lot of layers of security get to it.
00:37:33.297 -->
00:37:37.017I got a question for you. So we all know like the big boys, you know,
00:37:37.137 -->
00:37:40.957like Makers, Buffalo Trace, you know, Jack Daniels.
00:37:41.157 -->
00:37:44.357But there are a lot of smaller distilleries out there as well.
00:37:44.497 -->
00:37:47.697An example, just locally, would be Litchfield in Connecticut.
00:37:48.097 -->
00:37:51.597Do you try those or look for like the smaller distillers?
00:37:52.077 -->
00:37:57.377100%. So at Birmingham and the Banks, most of the distilleries there were small,
00:37:57.377 -->
00:38:01.077tiny places that had like whiskey that are under like five years old.
00:38:01.357 -->
00:38:02.997So I went to every single one.
00:38:04.097 -->
00:38:08.497Now, the goal of Burl of Banks is not to go to every single stop and drink at
00:38:08.497 -->
00:38:11.537every single stop, but that was my mission. That sounds like the goal everywhere.
00:38:12.337 -->
00:38:13.877Apparently, that's frowned upon if you do it.
00:38:15.217 -->
00:38:18.317But that's what I did. I went to every single place. I tried stuff.
00:38:18.597 -->
00:38:24.837And, you know, you get to try stuff that's straight from their stuff and not sourced.
00:38:24.957 -->
00:38:27.197Right. Because everywhere can source. Like Penelope sourced it.
00:38:27.197 -->
00:38:30.297Now they're owned by MGP. So they're basically MGP at this point. In-house, yeah.
00:38:30.637 -->
00:38:33.497But a lot of places source and, you know, it's whatever. people
00:38:33.497 -->
00:38:36.937are blending whatever they want to do but if they're like
00:38:36.937 -->
00:38:39.87713th colony they were
00:38:39.877 -->
00:38:42.797sourcing now they're putting out their own stuff but
00:38:42.797 -->
00:38:45.737there's a bunch of other stuff i mean that's probably a really bad example but
00:38:45.737 -->
00:38:50.317like cedar ridge is a smaller place and they put out really good like single
00:38:50.317 -->
00:38:53.437malts and now they're doing like bourbons and stuff like that even in texas
00:38:53.437 -->
00:38:56.857like still austin's putting out good stuff they are and they don't have to age
00:38:56.857 -->
00:39:00.677as long because the weather down there george i'm thinking of a place in georgia
00:39:00.677 -->
00:39:04.237oh asw that's what i'm trying to think of fiddler They're out of Atlanta, Georgia,
00:39:04.497 -->
00:39:08.697they put out their own stuff, that's pretty good stuff and it's younger or not,
00:39:08.777 -->
00:39:10.257I mean, you know, smaller place.
00:39:11.782 -->
00:39:15.562Would you consider Augusta one of those? Augusta Buckner's? Yeah.
00:39:16.082 -->
00:39:21.142So their price, that's their biggest problem. But yeah, I have all of them.
00:39:21.382 -->
00:39:26.0428, 10, 13, 15, freaking hazmat bottles, picks and everything.
00:39:26.642 -->
00:39:30.922But yeah, their pricing is a little elevated. Did you guys get into the buff
00:39:30.922 -->
00:39:32.382turkey craze that happened this year?
00:39:32.842 -->
00:39:35.842No. You guys know what I'm talking about? I do. Nope. You do?
00:39:37.742 -->
00:39:40.582I did not get into that craze, but my buddy Jerry bought
00:39:40.582 -->
00:39:43.442like every single one of those bottles and so
00:39:43.442 -->
00:39:46.322i got to try them and those are really really good those again
00:39:46.322 -->
00:39:52.302stupid expensive and you're hoping that they are above turkey bottle right because
00:39:52.302 -->
00:39:57.982that's the reason i really get into it it's like i mean that's one of those
00:39:57.982 -->
00:40:03.242things that could be really good or really bad i don't see where a mix like
00:40:03.242 -->
00:40:06.042that could be like it's okay you know what i mean,
00:40:07.047 -->
00:40:11.327You're either going to win big or lose big. And for like $500 to $700,
00:40:11.567 -->
00:40:13.347I don't want to take that gamble. No, I'm not guessing.
00:40:13.447 -->
00:40:17.207So not for me, but more for the listeners that might not know what you're talking about. What is this?
00:40:17.887 -->
00:40:22.127So like 15-ish years ago. That's for me. Wild Turkey. That's for me.
00:40:23.407 -->
00:40:29.247For me, exactly. Wild Turkey used Buffalo Trace to distill their mash bill.
00:40:29.627 -->
00:40:32.767So that's what they call it, Buff Turkey, because it was like a joint effort.
00:40:32.887 -->
00:40:35.787Nice. and for years people have been blending
00:40:35.787 -->
00:40:38.787these barrels into other things and also this year everyone's
00:40:38.787 -->
00:40:41.927put them out put them out like 15 year old single barrels of
00:40:41.927 -->
00:40:45.647buff turkey juice and they're distillers no one's ever heard of like elkoid
00:40:45.647 -->
00:40:50.567reserve and new era and all these things they put out bottles or barrels of
00:40:50.567 -->
00:40:56.247this and like nobody but buckner's also put out that's what made me think about
00:40:56.247 -->
00:41:01.827it the buckner's put out stuff dark arts which is the only buff turkey bottle I have,
00:41:01.967 -->
00:41:04.427because at Kentucky Bourbon Festival, they had three,
00:41:05.287 -->
00:41:08.467single barrels of it, and each day they put out a different one.
00:41:08.607 -->
00:41:12.627Okay. So I got two, but I gave one to Jerry because he's my buff turkey whore.
00:41:14.367 -->
00:41:18.547Nice. B-dub. There was another one. That sounds like a nickname we have to give somebody.
00:41:19.387 -->
00:41:22.847Like, not for that reason, just, I don't know. Yeah, M-A-Dish only. Okay.
00:41:23.207 -->
00:41:26.887And I don't know if it was B-S, but people were claiming that there were some... And you're whore.
00:41:27.107 -->
00:41:30.407I don't know if it was Overflow or whatever, but Some of the Russell's 10s were
00:41:30.407 -->
00:41:32.907actually Russell 13s. The 15s. There's certain.
00:41:33.127 -->
00:41:37.287The Emmy. The 15s. Yeah, for last year. If you find the, yeah, the Emmy on it. Yeah.
00:41:37.707 -->
00:41:41.087I remember looking at a couple of those, like, feeling like I was looking creepy
00:41:41.087 -->
00:41:43.787in a store picking up the box. Oh, no. I think I was doing that, too.
00:41:45.387 -->
00:41:46.547Looking creepy, like, just like you.
00:41:47.566 -->
00:41:51.706But yeah, that was a rumor that came out last year where the reject barrels
00:41:51.706 -->
00:41:57.086from the Russells 15 got put into the Russells 10, and it was like that label.
00:41:57.506 -->
00:42:00.826But there has been myth debunking on that or not.
00:42:01.746 -->
00:42:05.766That one does taste better than the regular Russells 10. Oh, shit.
00:42:06.246 -->
00:42:10.186By the way, Russells 10, if you're talking about price point.
00:42:10.186 -->
00:42:13.086We'll get there. We'll get there. Russells 10 at that price point is a great pour.
00:42:13.566 -->
00:42:16.986It's a great pour. A hundred percent agree. A few years ago,
00:42:17.066 -->
00:42:20.306I did a battle with 10-year-olds, and that one won.
00:42:20.626 -->
00:42:22.706That sounds like a bad YouTube channel.
00:42:25.266 -->
00:42:29.126One of 10-year-olds? It's like bum fights, but for kids.
00:42:31.106 -->
00:42:36.866Just about all the 10-year-olds. I don't know if you like Don Carlos Special Reserve.
00:42:37.386 -->
00:42:40.126I'm going to have dinner. It's one of my favorite cigars, so we want to gift
00:42:40.126 -->
00:42:42.466that to you right now. I appreciate it, man. You ever had it?
00:42:43.926 -->
00:42:51.446I don't believe so the bottom part I don't the special reserve oh my god it's not a big stick but,
00:42:51.995 -->
00:42:55.995Ah, man, that flavor is ridiculous. That's what she said. I just want to,
00:42:56.135 -->
00:42:57.795you smoke it, you let me know what you think.
00:42:58.275 -->
00:43:02.375It's great. We want to gift that to you. I appreciate it. Absolutely, man.
00:43:02.635 -->
00:43:06.615So on the heels of that, we are pouring another bottle here,
00:43:06.675 -->
00:43:09.675which I think is going to help us actually transition to another subject I wanted
00:43:09.675 -->
00:43:11.135to touch on with you. Yep.
00:43:11.635 -->
00:43:13.575But tell us a little bit about what we're pouring now. Okay,
00:43:13.595 -->
00:43:15.475so this is Art of the Spirit.
00:43:15.875 -->
00:43:19.515So this is out of Colorado. I think Colorado is from Colorado.
00:43:19.515 -->
00:43:22.815They have the best labels in
00:43:22.815 -->
00:43:25.795the game yeah every single one of the bottles the labels
00:43:25.795 -->
00:43:29.415are crazy because they actually have artists that
00:43:29.415 -->
00:43:32.155draw all the labels they sell like the art and
00:43:32.155 -->
00:43:35.375everything oh that's cool that is cool that is cool they're
00:43:35.375 -->
00:43:39.015all about oh there's a top oh that is bad it's badass but
00:43:39.015 -->
00:43:42.015yeah so i have a buddy out there josh that's in was
00:43:42.015 -->
00:43:45.015in the navy and he has a job out there and he's always
00:43:45.015 -->
00:43:48.755out there like helping put the labels on and everything so
00:43:48.755 -->
00:43:51.835anytime they come him all the new bottle he's like hey you guys want this and
00:43:51.835 -->
00:43:55.955i'm like yes so they have a lot of like military ones they have police ones
00:43:55.955 -->
00:44:01.495all different kinds even have a tequila they had like a really like a 15 year
00:44:01.495 -->
00:44:05.935old nejo tequila they had well basically looked like a whiskey when i pulled
00:44:05.935 -->
00:44:08.455it off the shelf the other day i thought it was a whiskey it was that dark oh shit.
00:44:09.919 -->
00:44:13.879Speaking of Colorado whiskey, you ever have, well, I'm sure you have Laws?
00:44:14.199 -->
00:44:16.379Laws, yep. I thought you were going to say Breckenridge, but yep.
00:44:16.519 -->
00:44:21.079Well, I think Breckenridge, well, I did say whiskey, but I think Breckenridge
00:44:21.079 -->
00:44:23.239is more whiskey than bourbon.
00:44:23.339 -->
00:44:27.719But Laws, I thought was really good, especially when it came out. Good job.
00:44:29.699 -->
00:44:30.979Someone sneaking by the camera.
00:44:33.079 -->
00:44:39.259Yeah, because they had the six grain. Yeah, they had a six grain that was really good.
00:44:39.659 -->
00:44:42.379That was a couple years ago. A six grain? I don't think I had that one.
00:44:42.519 -->
00:44:47.019I know I have two, and one's, I think the regular bourbon and one's a cash rent bourbon.
00:44:47.659 -->
00:44:51.639But I think they're just four grains, the one I have. Maybe it was four. I'm not good at math.
00:44:52.639 -->
00:44:57.619Numbers. I didn't go to math school. We know. Really? Okay.
00:45:00.431 -->
00:45:04.891But your loss was good. And then they also did a rye, too. That surprised me
00:45:04.891 -->
00:45:07.011because I usually don't like rye. Funny.
00:45:07.651 -->
00:45:12.191So that is Stacy. I can tell we're getting a little bit up in the proof.
00:45:12.351 -->
00:45:15.491This one, when we get to it, I got a whole story about this one.
00:45:16.331 -->
00:45:21.711What is the proof on this one? This one is 118.6 proof. Okay,
00:45:21.791 -->
00:45:23.371so we're getting into your world.
00:45:23.951 -->
00:45:27.391You're coming, Papa. You're coming. This one's big. Let me look back. Look.
00:45:28.831 -->
00:45:34.471I love it. This is 7.62 years old. Oh, wow. If you're gun guys,
00:45:34.831 -->
00:45:35.811you know that's around. Yeah.
00:45:36.171 -->
00:45:39.691So, but that's kind of stuff that they do, like little things like that.
00:45:39.891 -->
00:45:41.111Yeah, little cookies that are in there.
00:45:41.651 -->
00:45:44.671So that's actually going to help me transition into another topic I want to talk to you about.
00:45:44.831 -->
00:45:47.491Because, you know, you mentioned at the beginning that you do,
00:45:47.771 -->
00:45:49.871I guess, a little bit of gun content.
00:45:50.291 -->
00:45:52.711Just because, you know, it's hard to get out there. Yeah.
00:45:53.171 -->
00:45:57.551Actually, that video got a green circle. So there you go. I'm not sure how that happened.
00:45:57.671 -->
00:46:00.771All right. do you do do you find yourself doing a lot
00:46:00.771 -->
00:46:03.551of gun content obviously you know you hinted i think at the
00:46:03.551 -->
00:46:06.451at the beginning that you you served first of all thank you
00:46:06.451 -->
00:46:09.111thank you much appreciated it was a
00:46:09.111 -->
00:46:11.851great 20 years that was gonna be my
00:46:11.851 -->
00:46:14.531next question how long damn 20 years i retired a couple
00:46:14.531 -->
00:46:17.331years ago so i did awesome i did six years active
00:46:17.331 -->
00:46:20.031duty army then i got out and i joined the air
00:46:20.031 -->
00:46:22.831force national guard out of syracuse new york was there for a couple years did
00:46:22.831 -->
00:46:25.611not like that unit then i switched over to the one
00:46:25.611 -->
00:46:31.391down the street orange okay and i was in that unit for from 11 till i retired
00:46:31.391 -->
00:46:36.131a couple years ago 23 air force yeah right down the street oh mike yeah mike
00:46:36.131 -->
00:46:39.331mccleary yeah i got a bottle for him i know i got a bottle for him he called
00:46:39.331 -->
00:46:45.351me earlier i was like i got you mike is awesome.
00:46:46.711 -->
00:46:50.651He retired with, like, I think maybe three or four years I was into it.
00:46:50.731 -->
00:46:53.691But we have a very close mutual friend, Gabe Garcia.
00:46:54.011 -->
00:46:57.031Gabe. Yeah. Fucking great dude. Yeah. Hamden Detective. Hamden Detective.
00:46:57.031 -->
00:47:00.231He just finally retired out of there. So good, man. What's a good dude?
00:47:00.431 -->
00:47:04.111Yeah. He's one of my- Small fucking world. I love this. World gets smaller every day.
00:47:04.711 -->
00:47:07.231Yeah, he can't come out. He's like, oh, I can maybe get out there by like nine
00:47:07.231 -->
00:47:09.491o'clock. I was like- What the fuck? We'll be sleeping by then.
00:47:10.091 -->
00:47:13.451I'm like, let me fucking do it. I gotta get recorded my own video after this.
00:47:16.231 -->
00:47:20.771So but yeah i was trying to convince him to come out here so so going back to
00:47:20.771 -->
00:47:26.351your gun content like what which do you prefer handguns rifles long guns pccs
00:47:26.351 -->
00:47:32.591i love the little fancy pistol caliber carbine like little like i got one of those,
00:47:34.131 -->
00:47:38.391shut the fuck up i like to buy all the stuff that's illegal in kinetic.
00:47:40.171 -->
00:47:44.971I'm moving to Florida so I'm gonna be fucking great the I used to always shop
00:47:44.971 -->
00:47:49.731at the gun store not the gun store in Waterbury Connecticut what's it called.
00:47:50.529 -->
00:47:53.189I can't remember it's in portland the connect is a gun store in
00:47:53.189 -->
00:47:55.869portland but okay they would have a wall that was
00:47:55.869 -->
00:47:58.769just the exempt wall and i would just walk straight there as
00:47:58.769 -->
00:48:01.609soon as i walked in this is when i was still in the military so you could just buy whatever you
00:48:01.609 -->
00:48:07.269wanted there's no rules yeah no rules yeah so that's that was i would just go
00:48:07.269 -->
00:48:11.549there and i'm like what do i need today i'm like i kind of want this i kind
00:48:11.549 -->
00:48:14.669of want this oh i need this so i just grabbed the one i needed and all the one
00:48:14.669 -->
00:48:19.329i wanted because when you call the state for carlos garcia it takes a long
00:48:19.389 -->
00:48:22.109time to clear my name so i was like if we're
00:48:22.109 -->
00:48:25.749gonna waste all this time i got it
00:48:25.749 -->
00:48:28.689i mean it's just that's just efficiency at that point yeah
00:48:28.689 -->
00:48:31.709helping out everybody yeah so the
00:48:31.709 -->
00:48:34.909were you were you a gun guy like a collector
00:48:34.909 -->
00:48:37.589and into guns before the military or did you
00:48:37.589 -->
00:48:40.409absolutely not the only time i ever shot a gun before i joined the army
00:48:40.409 -->
00:48:43.509was like black powder with my dad like one
00:48:43.509 -->
00:48:46.289time oh shit wow i went to basic training not
00:48:46.289 -->
00:48:49.129knowing how to shoot anything i learned how to shoot and basic training which they
00:48:49.129 -->
00:48:51.809love by the way because then you don't have any bad habits right
00:48:51.809 -->
00:48:57.229no bad habits yeah it did take me a little extra time to shoot but i'm pretty
00:48:57.229 -->
00:49:01.609good shot nowadays i think so anyways so with my current job we just went to
00:49:01.609 -->
00:49:07.509the range last week and we just got a new pistol and you know qualified perfectly
00:49:07.509 -->
00:49:09.249scored perfect awesome whatever.
00:49:10.609 -->
00:49:14.529That's cool so i mean did you find your your kind
00:49:14.529 -->
00:49:17.189of i don't want to say love for guns because that sounds a
00:49:17.189 -->
00:49:20.169little weird but i guess i mean i guess it would be yeah i guess
00:49:20.169 -->
00:49:23.409it would be love for guns that sounds like a connecticut thing don't worry about
00:49:23.409 -->
00:49:30.469that fair enough but i mean did you find that that kind of did it grow over
00:49:30.469 -->
00:49:35.049time or were you when you got there and you started shooting were you like oh
00:49:35.049 -->
00:49:37.469this is this is cool this i like this.
00:49:38.745 -->
00:49:41.765Shooting a lot of cool stuff in
00:49:41.765 -->
00:49:44.425the army definitely made me appreciate it a lot
00:49:44.425 -->
00:49:47.445more but i didn't really get into buying guns until
00:49:47.445 -->
00:49:51.305about six seven years ago and went
00:49:51.305 -->
00:49:54.125all in for like two years spent a shit little
00:49:54.125 -->
00:50:02.285money and i have a lot of guns um and the armory of the garcia so i lived in
00:50:02.285 -->
00:50:05.965farmington for five years and i had like a walking secret room that was just
00:50:05.965 -->
00:50:11.445like an arsenal and now i don't have that in west haven anymore so i have just a bunch of safes,
00:50:12.065 -->
00:50:15.005but my wife basically cut me off from that and then
00:50:15.005 -->
00:50:17.765that's where i transitioned into bourbon so i'm
00:50:17.765 -->
00:50:20.965spending my money somewhere else okay and she's
00:50:20.965 -->
00:50:23.665an enabler because she'll be at costco sending me pictures like hey do you want
00:50:23.665 -->
00:50:26.285this bottle you want this bottle like you literally yelled at me yesterday for having
00:50:26.285 -->
00:50:30.045too many bottles that's that's
00:50:30.045 -->
00:50:33.265the double standard they try and trap you i don't yet meanwhile she's
00:50:33.265 -->
00:50:36.185like you have shelves in our living room at this point i was like it's
00:50:36.185 -->
00:50:41.405flowing in everywhere if it's your idea it's a bad idea yeah that's funny because
00:50:41.405 -->
00:50:44.285i don't have a lot of bottles at home i might have like 15 and my wife will
00:50:44.285 -->
00:50:46.925look at them and just give me a cross look but she won't say anything right
00:50:46.925 -->
00:50:49.785but if we're traveling somewhere and i'm like oh let me check out this liquor
00:50:49.785 -->
00:50:53.585store and i'll see a bottle and it's like say 120 bucks and i'm like look at
00:50:53.585 -->
00:50:56.085that i never see that anywhere and she's like i want you to buy it.
00:50:59.145 -->
00:51:03.025I don't think my wife ever said go ahead and buy it but it's a trap it's like
00:51:03.025 -->
00:51:04.965when you're They're in shopping mode. They're okay with anything.
00:51:07.945 -->
00:51:12.325Yes, they're in shopping mode. It just pushes it for them. That's funny.
00:51:13.116 -->
00:51:18.716Do you have a favorite firearm? So I usually carry the M&P, nope,
00:51:18.836 -->
00:51:20.316nope, Springfield Hellcat.
00:51:20.356 -->
00:51:23.076That's what I carry just because it gives me a little extra rounds.
00:51:23.196 -->
00:51:25.796But the gun I have is the MP5.
00:51:26.436 -->
00:51:30.696That's like really cool. And I really enjoy shooting that one.
00:51:31.316 -->
00:51:35.056And, you know, I got the ARs and I have AKs and stuff like that.
00:51:35.276 -->
00:51:39.816I have, what's it called? I always have to look this up, but I call it my alien gun.
00:51:39.816 -->
00:51:43.136It's i have a lot of bullpup guns
00:51:43.136 -->
00:51:45.936and so they're shorter but all the stuff's in the back like
00:51:45.936 -->
00:51:48.556right and i have one i can't think of
00:51:48.556 -->
00:51:51.796it but i have an uzi too that's pretty cool but it
00:51:51.796 -->
00:51:55.436has it looks like an alien gun and the rounds on top is a weird rounds like
00:51:55.436 -->
00:52:02.1365.72 i can't think of name but it goes like this the rounds like the opposite
00:52:02.136 -->
00:52:06.876of the barrel and then they spin to get into the barrel at the end holy i gotta
00:52:06.876 -->
00:52:09.696ask weird let me you guys talk while i look at this,
00:52:11.696 -->
00:52:13.356yes you're not supposed to take a break.
00:52:15.596 -->
00:52:19.836Fuck it let me do it let me do it of course he does it's fair he has a spreadsheet
00:52:19.836 -->
00:52:23.676when the zombie apocalypse happens we're going to carlos,
00:52:24.996 -->
00:52:27.956you can come to me i mean i mean where you are because you're probably right
00:52:27.956 -->
00:52:34.456down i mean bourbon vermin sticks and guns I mean yeah hello ugh don't even
00:52:34.456 -->
00:52:37.596have it on my spreadsheet it was on my newer gun that I put on my spreadsheet
00:52:37.596 -->
00:52:39.796of course that's a don't that's a.
00:52:41.212 -->
00:52:45.792Oh, Jesus. You know, I don't even think we mentioned what cigar we were smoking.
00:52:45.932 -->
00:52:49.092We did it. So you waved that away. Where are you with Glocks?
00:52:49.452 -->
00:52:52.692Glocks, I like Glocks. I shot my first 10 millimeter Glock the other day.
00:52:52.832 -->
00:52:54.972The 40. I'll tell you my Glock story.
00:52:56.292 -->
00:52:59.372Then let's tell everybody what we're smoking. I just retired,
00:52:59.412 -->
00:53:08.192but we were on the berm, and they're like, they doused us in fucking water, mud.
00:53:08.592 -->
00:53:13.152And there was six hours. There was Glocks. So it was everything you can imagine on there. HK?
00:53:13.992 -->
00:53:18.292Everybody. HK was on there. So they were like, fuck it. They were hitting those
00:53:18.292 -->
00:53:19.912with batons. They were like, get up.
00:53:20.392 -->
00:53:22.052Fire. And the only people that
00:53:22.052 -->
00:53:24.212were firing was the people that were the Glock. Yeah, that makes sense.
00:53:25.112 -->
00:53:29.132Right on. So that's why I love Glock. So I have like four or five Glocks.
00:53:29.332 -->
00:53:33.612I have my ARs. I have the pistols. I have all that shit. But it was like...
00:53:34.451 -->
00:53:40.451It was eye-opening to know that mud, dirt, grime, everything didn't matter.
00:53:40.691 -->
00:53:45.551And the guys with the six hours were like, and we're just, we're popping off.
00:53:45.851 -->
00:53:49.511It was great. Yeah, that's a common thing. Even like when I was in the Army,
00:53:49.731 -->
00:53:53.191like we had the grenade launchers, Mark 19s. Oh, nice.
00:53:53.531 -->
00:53:57.531That gets any dirt in it. Just anything would stop that thing from shooting.
00:53:57.631 -->
00:54:01.151It's like, what the fuck? We're in the desert. Whose idea was this to bring it up here?
00:54:02.031 -->
00:54:05.751You stupid fuck? What are you doing? Stupid. The links in the rounds,
00:54:05.771 -->
00:54:09.991they get rusty, and as soon as they get rusty, they don't go through.
00:54:10.111 -->
00:54:12.931Oh, my God. What a piece of crap those are. But you looked really cool.
00:54:15.411 -->
00:54:20.571The 50 cals that we got from, like, Vietnam era, those shits will last.
00:54:20.691 -->
00:54:23.751Those would shoot anything and be fine. And those are from Vietnam,
00:54:23.871 -->
00:54:25.351but the newer, shinier stuff.
00:54:25.791 -->
00:54:28.611I mean, I think that's just a, that's with anything.
00:54:29.771 -->
00:54:33.331TVs, refrigerators, like, anything old is going to last through a fucking.
00:54:33.331 -->
00:54:40.451Right through any nuclear bomb yeah anything new is meant to fucking be replaced in three years,
00:54:41.451 -->
00:54:46.371land obsolescence yeah god damn he's already opened the next one i'm not fucking
00:54:46.371 -->
00:54:53.211right this is good i'm just i'm sitting here i'm sitting here enjoying this plus i didn't eat dinner,
00:54:54.371 -->
00:54:57.591i ate breakfast today that means you're fucked drink your dinner,
00:54:58.451 -->
00:55:01.411All right, so this one. Hopefully Jamie comes down and can be right home.
00:55:02.931 -->
00:55:09.091Joseph Magnus. So this is Joseph Magnus Cigar Blend batch 57 from 2021.
00:55:10.971 -->
00:55:14.411I've actually had this. I've had that. This batch?
00:55:14.951 -->
00:55:20.991I haven't had that. This batch is number 57. I had 23.
00:55:21.811 -->
00:55:25.971Okay, so you had an older batch too. Yeah. so when this batch came out it was
00:55:25.971 -->
00:55:29.511one of the highest proof Joseph Magnus cigar blends they ever had,
00:55:29.991 -->
00:55:33.211and they call this one the charcuterie board because
00:55:33.211 -->
00:55:36.631a lot of the notes were cheeses and meats and stuff like that it's not necessarily
00:55:36.631 -->
00:55:40.571what I get out of it but that's what Nancy Fraley Nancy the nose Fraley who's
00:55:40.571 -->
00:55:43.571the master blender when she was doing this now she works I think like still
00:55:43.571 -->
00:55:47.831Austin or whatever but it's one of the older ones because I know four years
00:55:47.831 -->
00:55:48.731old already but it was one of
00:55:48.731 -->
00:55:52.951the highest proof ones that line I forget which ones but it was like Oh,
00:55:53.111 -->
00:55:58.491batches 53 to 58 were like the highest proof ones. And they're all, oh shoot.
00:55:59.151 -->
00:56:03.271They're all between 14 to 20 years old. A bunch of barrels. Oh, geez. Older.
00:56:03.551 -->
00:56:06.431So, and it's, you know, finished in all the stuff that they're usually finished
00:56:06.431 -->
00:56:09.711in. But an older Joseph Magnus, the VR blend, had a highest proof.
00:56:09.931 -->
00:56:13.491I mean, if you look at it in the light, I mean, how dark it is.
00:56:13.571 -->
00:56:16.631It's beautiful. So there's a lot of age in there, a lot of character.
00:56:17.391 -->
00:56:21.351One of the videos i did earlier this year was comparing under
00:56:21.351 -->
00:56:24.691100 over 100 over 200 over 300 batch
00:56:24.691 -->
00:56:28.971this one won okay didn't shock anyone it's
00:56:28.971 -->
00:56:34.671ridiculous holy shit yeah that's i mean honestly like yeah i'm a design guy
00:56:34.671 -->
00:56:39.931so like this label is just sick too i love the look of that wait till you taste
00:56:39.931 -->
00:56:45.931it yeah this is so i got a lot of cherry like i actually pick up notes even through the cigar,
00:56:46.431 -->
00:56:52.071smells fucking but this is what made like cigar ridiculous I bet you this one matches the best.
00:56:53.536 -->
00:56:54.196What is the cigar?
00:56:56.216 -->
00:57:01.356We usually say at the beginning, but while I'm finishing the cigar. It's right there, Papa.
00:57:02.096 -->
00:57:05.536Yeah. What are we smoking today? You picked it, Richard? Arturo Fuente.
00:57:06.316 -->
00:57:10.076I mean, AJ Fernandez. Sorry, because I was thinking about what I just gave him.
00:57:10.276 -->
00:57:12.736Yeah, we're smoking one of the New Worlds, right? New Worlds.
00:57:13.396 -->
00:57:16.876AJ Fernandez, he doesn't make anything bad. They don't make anything bad.
00:57:17.576 -->
00:57:20.976Decenio? Decencio? Yeah. Oh, the decenio. Decenio.
00:57:21.336 -->
00:57:23.376Whatever you call it. It's been a little while since I've had one.
00:57:23.376 -->
00:57:29.436These are great sticks they are this is relatively new too it is came out this
00:57:29.436 -->
00:57:38.596year that guy is on a tear he's like great AJ's like there's nothing that AJ does that's like not.
00:57:39.664 -->
00:57:44.864To my opinion, everybody has a different palate, but let me tell you something.
00:57:45.064 -->
00:57:47.824AJ is on point when he does his stuff.
00:57:48.124 -->
00:57:53.584Same. I'm a subscriber to the Provada Cigar Club, and one of the main reasons
00:57:53.584 -->
00:57:57.544is that AJ is so involved with them.
00:57:58.544 -->
00:58:03.904I get a test blend every month of a new AJ cigar that he's just like,
00:58:04.424 -->
00:58:06.324never been a bad one. He's great.
00:58:06.464 -->
00:58:11.304Never been a bad one. It's like a cigar genius. Yeah, the dude is a genius. And you know what?
00:58:11.604 -->
00:58:16.724And Billy and Gus, they did the best thing when they sold their... Oh, yeah.
00:58:16.824 -->
00:58:19.084Just think about it. Oh, with Arvisano del Tabaco, yeah. Just think about it.
00:58:19.124 -->
00:58:23.104When they did the New World for him, when they came in with the New World and
00:58:23.104 -->
00:58:25.864he sold it to them and they were like, yeah, we'll sell you New World.
00:58:26.004 -->
00:58:30.924And they sold a bunch of them and then they sold their cigar. What was it? Cigar Inn?
00:58:31.504 -->
00:58:36.344Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the cigar in New York. So they sold Cigar Inn and then AJ
00:58:36.344 -->
00:58:39.984said, well, I'll rock with you guys. And then he did the El Pupo,
00:58:40.144 -->
00:58:41.724which was fucking amazing.
00:58:42.064 -->
00:58:46.864And then everything took off from there. I mean, AJ is, everything he puts his
00:58:46.864 -->
00:58:48.404hands on is great. It's like sipping chocolate.
00:58:48.584 -->
00:58:51.584It's like sipping chocolate. Yeah, you're right. It's just rich and thick,
00:58:51.664 -->
00:58:55.424and you get that weight that's on your tongue.
00:58:55.484 -->
00:58:57.624Bro, that guy is. Yeah, I described it as deep.
00:58:58.244 -->
00:59:00.444It's just deep. You know what? It is a deep cigar.
00:59:01.624 -->
00:59:04.004We're talking the bourbon. Yeah, we were talking the bourbon,
00:59:04.064 -->
00:59:07.824but the cigar is too. It's the same thing. Yeah. Imagine. That bourbon is ridiculous.
00:59:09.704 -->
00:59:11.044This is the best one,
00:59:11.901 -->
00:59:17.461Right off the rip, you get that little spicy tingle right on your lips. It's nice.
00:59:17.981 -->
00:59:20.841Oh, shit. Yeah, and then it gets into a nice, like, rich, almost,
00:59:20.981 -->
00:59:23.441like, toasted, like, caramel flavor. Yeah, yeah.
00:59:23.981 -->
00:59:27.121And it sticks. You want to give me a... It's a long finish. Yeah,
00:59:27.141 -->
00:59:28.501it's a long finish. It's a good finish.
00:59:28.761 -->
00:59:33.021Not a lot of bite. You get that warm hug, you know, back here.
00:59:33.061 -->
00:59:34.881Like this? No, not like that.
00:59:35.441 -->
00:59:38.101Not like that. Like that. No, not like that.
00:59:38.121 -->
00:59:41.401Like that. But I can see where you're going with the cherry,
00:59:41.661 -->
00:59:44.181the sweet, dark. A hundred percent. Yeah.
00:59:44.621 -->
00:59:47.421Yeah. No, it's good. This is the best. For me, this is the best one I'll do
00:59:47.421 -->
00:59:49.361with this cigar specifically.
00:59:49.701 -->
00:59:53.621Yes. But overall, it would be my favorite anyways. No, it's very good.
00:59:54.441 -->
00:59:57.661Now, I am going to a cigar lounge on Tuesday.
00:59:58.461 -->
01:00:02.281Okay. SLV. It's called Gold Leaf. Gold Leaf. It's in Indiana.
01:00:02.281 -->
01:00:03.201Where is that? It's in Indiana.
01:00:03.461 -->
01:00:07.221I don't know why I just said it out of my words, but I've come to Indiana. So good.
01:00:08.601 -->
01:00:15.201To help SLB, there's rollers, like fourth generation rollers that own Gold Leaf out there. Oh, shit.
01:00:15.361 -->
01:00:18.901And they're going to do a line of cigars for SLB.
01:00:19.101 -->
01:00:22.401Now, SLB guys don't smoke, so they're actually inviting me to fly out there.
01:00:22.501 -->
01:00:25.541I'm really flying out there for one day to help them with this.
01:00:25.601 -->
01:00:27.921I don't know exactly what's going to pertain or whatever.
01:00:28.181 -->
01:00:30.761I love it. I know I'm doing three.
01:00:31.401 -->
01:00:35.881One's a Connecticut, one's Habano, one's a Madero. and they're basically labeling
01:00:35.881 -->
01:00:40.981like, you know, 80 proof, 100 proof, 120 proof, you know, kind of link in like
01:00:40.981 -->
01:00:42.041a whiskey with and everything.
01:00:42.461 -->
01:00:48.001So any advice for me going there and advising other people?
01:00:48.421 -->
01:00:52.681You're going high, right? So you have to be that. So are you going to be tasting?
01:00:52.981 -->
01:00:54.361That cigar has to be rich. Yeah.
01:00:54.741 -->
01:00:57.721It can't be, it can't be a mild cigar. It has to be rich.
01:00:59.429 -->
01:01:03.349It sounds like they're doing a mild, medium, full. Right, mild,
01:01:03.569 -->
01:01:06.269medium, full. But if you're going that high.
01:01:06.749 -->
01:01:10.069Did they give you the binder? Right, like the 120's got to be a full binder.
01:01:11.209 -->
01:01:15.589That's a Maduro one, is a 120 binder proof one. Okay, so that's the hammer.
01:01:16.589 -->
01:01:19.489Yeah, the Maduro one. Yeah, so you got to be up there. So that one's going to
01:01:19.489 -->
01:01:24.329be darker, heavier, hit you harder on your palate. Very rich.
01:01:24.529 -->
01:01:27.029Yeah, it's got to be a rich cigar. Yeah. To me.
01:01:27.589 -->
01:01:31.389To me anyways. No, I can't disagree. Yeah.
01:01:31.889 -->
01:01:35.329I'm hoping to smoke all three while we're out there. They said at 5 o'clock,
01:01:35.429 -->
01:01:39.209I don't know what time we're ending this whole thing, but, you know,
01:01:39.249 -->
01:01:40.869if we have time, I want to smoke all three,
01:01:41.009 -->
01:01:46.269kind of see how they're escalating because the Maduro's got to be strong.
01:01:46.529 -->
01:01:48.569It's interesting. Definitely starting a mile. It's interesting.
01:01:49.229 -->
01:01:51.549Where do you lie with foundation cigars?
01:01:52.329 -->
01:01:56.129What have you tried? What have you not tried? You had to have at least one when
01:01:56.129 -->
01:01:58.529we were here. Right. I know. I've had a few of them.
01:01:58.749 -->
01:02:01.249I can't name them off the top of my head, though. Have you done a 10-year?
01:02:02.149 -->
01:02:05.949No. Dude, that thing is so good. I don't think so. We'll hook you up before
01:02:05.949 -->
01:02:09.529you leave. That thing. Or right now. Give me. Right.
01:02:11.689 -->
01:02:14.509Goddamn. Damn. I'm very bad at remembering anything. Give me notice.
01:02:14.709 -->
01:02:18.549I can mute you. That's why I write everything down. You don't like that to get me a cigar. I know.
01:02:19.149 -->
01:02:22.029You better bring back five of them. The reason I started my YouTube channel,
01:02:22.049 -->
01:02:25.129it was so that I could record myself so I know what I'm talking about.
01:02:25.329 -->
01:02:26.789I don't remember anything.
01:02:28.089 -->
01:02:32.609I was like there's evidence that I said this so I could go look at myself yeah
01:02:32.609 -->
01:02:38.189the proof the proof's in the bottom Mike said tell Conos from here I said yeah I already know.
01:02:39.980 -->
01:02:44.300Yeah, but I mean, that's another brand like AJ where everything he does is awesome.
01:02:44.320 -->
01:02:45.240Dude, I love foundation.
01:02:45.520 -->
01:02:49.720I think he puts so much attention into every detail. Oh, yeah. Right. That's cool.
01:02:49.980 -->
01:02:54.980And not only that, I think his cigars are probably one of the most beautiful cigars on the market.
01:02:55.060 -->
01:02:58.120You picked them up and the wrappers. Oh, it just looks good. Yeah.
01:02:59.000 -->
01:03:03.680They look crafted. It speaks to how meticulous he is to detail where he takes
01:03:03.680 -->
01:03:07.720that extra step to make sure the cigar not only tastes good,
01:03:07.740 -->
01:03:08.940it's balanced, well blended.
01:03:09.080 -->
01:03:11.840But the construction is there even the artwork that
01:03:11.840 -->
01:03:14.880goes on the band itself there's nothing there's nothing
01:03:14.880 -->
01:03:17.640left to chance you know no i would i would love to get nick
01:03:17.640 -->
01:03:23.100on a uh on a podcast i know we try i gotta email his people and figure it out
01:03:23.100 -->
01:03:27.300there was a there was a foundation event here we were gonna try and it just
01:03:27.300 -->
01:03:32.080didn't work out it's a process but i think okay to it yeah because this was
01:03:32.080 -->
01:03:36.180the one that like was the hardest one to buy when they were we just had it right now Yeah.
01:03:36.580 -->
01:03:38.500Right. But I'm saying, like, when they were here doing that event,
01:03:38.660 -->
01:03:41.960that was, like, the one that, like, you had to buy a box to basically buy it. No, no, no.
01:03:42.260 -->
01:03:46.360So the 1410 was the one you had to buy the box. This is the actual box that
01:03:46.360 -->
01:03:49.780we bought. Okay. Okay. So smoke it. Let me know what you think.
01:03:50.440 -->
01:03:53.560It's a great cigar. I love it. It is. I mean.
01:03:53.960 -->
01:03:56.660Yeah, I love all that. Listen, we're not going to talk crazy.
01:03:56.700 -->
01:04:00.380I mean, a lot of cigars, they put the price up there.
01:04:00.820 -->
01:04:04.300Is it a $30 cigar? Eh, maybe not.
01:04:04.300 -->
01:04:08.080But I'm telling you it's a great cigar there aren't many cigars that are $30
01:04:08.080 -->
01:04:12.500it's a great cigar though and I think that's the problem right now smoke it
01:04:12.500 -->
01:04:19.040with whatever you want like you can get so many good cigars for $15,
01:04:19.100 -->
01:04:22.500$16 and under $12 to $16 is like the sweet spot.
01:04:23.180 -->
01:04:28.220You're right 100% that's like a whiskey world where everyone's like why are
01:04:28.220 -->
01:04:32.700you spending $200 on a whiskey when there's $35, $45 bottles,
01:04:33.560 -->
01:04:36.540Honestly, for me, if we're talking price point when it comes to hoots,
01:04:36.640 -->
01:04:39.040right? I think between like...
01:04:39.827 -->
01:04:45.907You can find a decent bottle of 40. I would say like 40 to 80 is a good range. It's a great range.
01:04:46.107 -->
01:04:48.567A lot of good stuff. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent.
01:04:49.450 -->
01:04:54.810Yeah, that's the same. That's kind of like the $12 to $18 cigar range.
01:04:55.530 -->
01:04:59.890Not to disparage the cigar industry, though, some of those higher-priced bourbons
01:04:59.890 -->
01:05:02.370are just knock you out awesome.
01:05:02.890 -->
01:05:05.870Some of them are shit. Yeah, I mean, a lot of them are shit.
01:05:06.030 -->
01:05:09.910But sometimes you can nail a $150 bottle of bourbon, and it's just incredible.
01:05:10.390 -->
01:05:13.490How many times have you had a cigar that's over $50 where you thought,
01:05:13.630 -->
01:05:16.270oh, my God, I would buy this three, four, five times?
01:05:16.430 -->
01:05:20.170Right. I mean, it's tricky, I think, with cigars. Yeah, I haven't.
01:05:20.790 -->
01:05:23.410I mean, not to disparage those guys, because I'm sure they put a lot of work.
01:05:23.510 -->
01:05:26.850There's a lot of factors that go into the growing and things like that.
01:05:26.850 -->
01:05:32.250Part of that might be because we love our cigars, but we're probably more bourbon than cigar.
01:05:32.890 -->
01:05:35.670Yeah, right. You're right. Yeah. Because you want that match.
01:05:35.970 -->
01:05:39.590Right. You want that, I'm drinking this, and I want the cigar to match it.
01:05:39.930 -->
01:05:43.270And sometimes it's hard because you're like, this is not there.
01:05:43.510 -->
01:05:47.170You know, sometimes it is, but a lot of times it's not. And it might just be
01:05:47.170 -->
01:05:49.630me because my catalog in cigars is huge.
01:05:50.170 -->
01:05:54.750So if I were to go and pick up like $80 cigar, I'm going to compare it to the
01:05:54.750 -->
01:05:57.070100 cigars that I've tried that are less than 20 bucks.
01:05:57.410 -->
01:06:00.410Whereas my bourbon experience is only about four years.
01:06:00.830 -->
01:06:05.870So if I pick up a $200 bottle of bourbon, I've only got about 30 that I can compare it to.
01:06:06.030 -->
01:06:08.910Well, that's a $200 bottle of bourbon right there. That's ridiculous.
01:06:09.530 -->
01:06:12.610And this is a winner. That's the best one up here. No, no, it's the best one.
01:06:12.830 -->
01:06:18.150100%. I've had more oh shit moments with bourbon Than I've had with cigars And
01:06:18.150 -->
01:06:23.570I've been smoking cigars 25 years And I'm with you Because there's a lot of cigars out there that.
01:06:24.310 -->
01:06:30.010Overpriced it You're like this is a good $40 cigar But it's probably like a
01:06:30.010 -->
01:06:35.810$15 cigar But I could spend $15 and get something Right Or you'll say this is a $40 cigar,
01:06:36.490 -->
01:06:41.690But I'm not sure I'm not running out to buy this again Exactly My point You're
01:06:41.690 -->
01:06:46.550great with that Honestly, the fact that you can get a cigar for $10,
01:06:46.710 -->
01:06:49.570$12, $14 is fucking insane in itself.
01:06:50.522 -->
01:06:52.882When you think about the work that goes into it and all that kind of stuff,
01:06:53.102 -->
01:06:55.502the fact that it's not more is insane. Especially when you've been to the farms
01:06:55.502 -->
01:06:59.142and you actually saw these people really produce it.
01:06:59.342 -->
01:07:03.122Oh, yeah. And I've been to the factory and field. I've done three times.
01:07:03.342 -->
01:07:06.522I've done two times in Nicaragua, one time in Dominican Republic,
01:07:06.542 -->
01:07:09.402and I've done my own blend in each one.
01:07:09.522 -->
01:07:13.602And it's like, shit, all these fucking people literally touched this cigar.
01:07:13.662 -->
01:07:18.062Yeah, it's a million times. And it's a $10 cigar, but it should be fucking a $30 cigar.
01:07:18.122 -->
01:07:22.442But I'm like, you know, it's crazy. Think about it, like this cigar that we're
01:07:22.442 -->
01:07:26.942smoking now, right? We got it now, but I mean, it was probably in the ground
01:07:26.942 -->
01:07:31.562five, seven years ago. Right, five, seven years ago. You know what I'm saying?
01:07:31.862 -->
01:07:35.342Between growing, aging, rolling, that whole process.
01:07:35.982 -->
01:07:44.342I'm more apt to buy a $50 cigar for someone than myself. I'll take a gun. A hundred percent.
01:07:44.622 -->
01:07:47.262But I will buy a $50 bottle for me. Oh, you did it for me.
01:07:48.433 -->
01:07:51.573It more money i know you do no 100 like
01:07:51.573 -->
01:07:54.273i i'm way more willing to to spend that money
01:07:54.273 -->
01:07:57.253on somebody else yes than myself because i know like
01:07:57.253 -->
01:08:02.873i just love and i love people enjoying the art yeah and it is that's me it's
01:08:02.873 -->
01:08:07.093really not it's an art just like this this is an art blend drink up coaches
01:08:07.093 -->
01:08:11.613well i think that's where like all of it i have a lot of work at home drink
01:08:11.613 -->
01:08:16.413i think that's where All of it goes hand in hand, too, because it's all in art form.
01:08:16.553 -->
01:08:19.493It's all just, yeah. It's all experience.
01:08:19.753 -->
01:08:23.113And one of the things that, you know, we were talking about scotch earlier.
01:08:23.353 -->
01:08:27.773And I'm running low on this. I was at a McAllen's tasting probably like 20 years ago.
01:08:28.313 -->
01:08:32.773And he was talking to us about how they taste their blends, the Terminum.
01:08:33.993 -->
01:08:40.073And he was like, you know, the blenders, you know, they'll try like 200 scotches a day.
01:08:40.453 -->
01:08:43.693And we're like, how the fuck is that person still alive? And they're like,
01:08:43.753 -->
01:08:44.953well, they use their nose.
01:08:45.693 -->
01:08:49.133They just sniff it, and then they know. And when you had mentioned the woman
01:08:49.133 -->
01:08:52.073who's working for Austin, the nose, right.
01:08:53.024 -->
01:08:58.024They could just smell the alcohol and they know exactly what's going on.
01:08:58.124 -->
01:09:02.784So when I review the whiskeys, I always do nosing, all the nosing first.
01:09:02.864 -->
01:09:06.864I usually do like four-way blinds. I almost do exclusively blinds on my channel
01:09:06.864 -->
01:09:09.584because I think that's the best way to keep out the bias. Yeah.
01:09:10.004 -->
01:09:14.944But I nose them first and then I taste them all. And sometimes the nose translates
01:09:14.944 -->
01:09:16.404to the palate and sometimes it doesn't.
01:09:16.604 -->
01:09:20.624So like for the professionals that do that is like mind-blowing to me.
01:09:20.624 -->
01:09:24.084Because sometimes I'll smell something and doesn't taste anything like it.
01:09:24.224 -->
01:09:27.724Yeah, and I try to train myself to that by smelling a new bourbon.
01:09:27.964 -->
01:09:31.324And it just... You can pick up some of that. Sometimes I pick up some things
01:09:31.324 -->
01:09:35.384and then I don't. Have you ever thought about going to get your certification?
01:09:35.904 -->
01:09:37.644Oh, like a sommelier type? Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:38.364 -->
01:09:41.384Have I thought about it? The bourbon steward, I think they call it.
01:09:41.404 -->
01:09:45.904And I'm going to tell you right now, I've only watched three of your shows and you need to be on that.
01:09:46.684 -->
01:09:50.504100%. I'm telling you right now because I love bourbon and I love cigars.
01:09:50.624 -->
01:09:53.304But i've watched they told me you guys
01:09:53.304 -->
01:09:56.564were coming on so i said let me watch some of his shit and i'm like this fucking
01:09:56.564 -->
01:09:59.604guy's for real because you love it so listen
01:09:59.604 -->
01:10:02.864get that because i'm telling you right now bro you are
01:10:02.864 -->
01:10:06.804fucking eons ahead of everybody else well there's there's a picture about that
01:10:06.804 -->
01:10:10.744right no it's like you know your your bourbon steward your certification right
01:10:10.744 -->
01:10:16.004you can get it right anybody can get it right but it's but is that a marketing
01:10:16.004 -->
01:10:20.624thing is it it does it is it truly a designated... Nowadays, yes.
01:10:21.164 -->
01:10:25.004Nowadays, yes, but he's still on that point where he could fucking...
01:10:25.004 -->
01:10:27.924But the point is, he's there without it. Without it.
01:10:28.384 -->
01:10:33.344You got people inviting you to different spots without even doing that.
01:10:33.424 -->
01:10:37.124So if you do that, I'm telling you right now, listen, to me...
01:10:37.613 -->
01:10:40.553I look at it like I love bourbon, right?
01:10:40.713 -->
01:10:44.073But then I said, they were like, he's coming out. I said, let me watch some of his shit.
01:10:44.133 -->
01:10:47.913And I'm like, this fucking guy knows what he's talking about because you're
01:10:47.913 -->
01:10:49.293really fucking doing it.
01:10:49.373 -->
01:10:53.013And some people just don't. They just drink bourbon. They smoke cigars.
01:10:53.533 -->
01:10:58.333But you're actually really doing it. So go get that certification because you're
01:10:58.333 -->
01:11:00.633going to be on top of the fucking world.
01:11:00.833 -->
01:11:03.853Well, I mean, I think another point that gets overlooked is it couldn't hurt.
01:11:04.173 -->
01:11:06.853It couldn't hurt. There's always something new to learn, right?
01:11:06.913 -->
01:11:10.013Yeah. There's always some little nugget because I remember when I went through
01:11:10.013 -->
01:11:13.513a beer phase too, and I was looking at beer has one for that too.
01:11:13.653 -->
01:11:17.533And I started actually reading the material and one of the sections went over
01:11:17.533 -->
01:11:22.133what are the flaws in your tap lines that cause different flavors to come out in your beer?
01:11:22.293 -->
01:11:25.933Yeah, right. And it's like, shit, I never, like I've experienced bad beer from
01:11:25.933 -->
01:11:27.773a bad tap line. You're a real builder.
01:11:27.993 -->
01:11:32.573You know what's funny is like when I was bartending, right, that was something
01:11:32.573 -->
01:11:35.053that we figured out working behind there.
01:11:35.053 -->
01:11:39.453It's like okay when's the last time we cleaned the lines because we could do
01:11:39.453 -->
01:11:44.533that is one of my that is one of my experience yeah it all comes out to experience
01:11:44.533 -->
01:11:48.953and that's where and i've talked to cory about this wines and more love the
01:11:48.953 -->
01:11:50.013place no for connecticut.
01:11:51.053 -->
01:11:54.333Talking with Corey about the whole, should I get the bourbon steward or not
01:11:54.333 -->
01:11:58.233bourbon steward? And he's like, bottom line is, you need to drink the juice, right? Right.
01:11:58.753 -->
01:12:02.213And like anything else, the more you do it, the better at it you get.
01:12:02.353 -->
01:12:06.353Right. Right? So obviously you had more than one or two. I just like to drink.
01:12:06.613 -->
01:12:09.473And that's not a bad thing. I love it. No, I do that, bro.
01:12:09.773 -->
01:12:15.353But the thing is, there's drinking, and then there's drinking to taste and enjoy.
01:12:15.613 -->
01:12:19.273And you taste and enjoy, and it's a distinction with a difference. Some days.
01:12:19.573 -->
01:12:22.493Yeah. Well, you know, you're with us today, so sorry.
01:12:23.353 -->
01:12:26.633I was like, when we had the beer podcast, like, we talked about,
01:12:26.653 -->
01:12:29.633you know, becoming, like, a beer Somali and, like, all that kind of stuff.
01:12:29.753 -->
01:12:33.033But, I mean, you know, we were called the Heavy Drinking Podcast for a reason.
01:12:34.693 -->
01:12:38.613And it didn't really pan out. But, yeah, I mean, the more you do something,
01:12:38.713 -->
01:12:42.373the more you just kind of get, yeah, the more you just kind of get into it.
01:12:42.373 -->
01:12:47.973And Dave, on your point, right, a lot of people don't like to see other people,
01:12:47.973 -->
01:12:51.993like, go forward in what's going on, right?
01:12:52.173 -->
01:12:57.633So if you're that person, like, to me, no, no, I'm going to tell you, right?
01:12:59.253 -->
01:13:03.193That is 100%. A lot of people, like, say, oh, this fucking guy,
01:13:03.213 -->
01:13:07.233he gets on there, he does bourbon, he does cigars. Fuck that dude.
01:13:07.713 -->
01:13:11.973But you know what? But he came on today, and I love it, and I want to see him
01:13:11.973 -->
01:13:16.973go forward because I love bourbon, I love cigars, but I'm not on the point that he is.
01:13:17.493 -->
01:13:21.713So I'm going to pay homage to him because if he can do that sommelier,
01:13:22.493 -->
01:13:24.093fuck, I'm going to be like, you know what?
01:13:24.213 -->
01:13:28.733I had him on a podcast with fucking Dave Brown and my bros, and we're in there.
01:13:29.173 -->
01:13:32.833Let's do it. Well, that's where I think, you know? I mean, I don't want to speak for you.
01:13:32.933 -->
01:13:37.773I mean, I assume you probably have some, quote, unquote, haters in the community.
01:13:37.773 -->
01:13:42.033Of course you have As far as your channel You're fairly new,
01:13:43.087 -->
01:13:47.867And you've obviously had a lot of success, rightfully so, because you know what
01:13:47.867 -->
01:13:51.027the hell you're talking about. I get a free giveaways on my YouTube channels.
01:13:51.987 -->
01:13:54.707A free giveaways. No one's there for my tape.
01:13:56.147 -->
01:13:58.887No, but I'm sure there's people that are like, oh, this motherfucker thinks
01:13:58.887 -->
01:14:01.487he knows what he's talking about. He's only been doing this for a while.
01:14:01.807 -->
01:14:06.527I don't actually get too many negative comments, which is shocking to me. Which is great.
01:14:07.787 -->
01:14:11.107The community is actually really good. and
01:14:11.107 -->
01:14:14.727I think the bigger you get you definitely get more haters just because you get
01:14:14.727 -->
01:14:19.207more views right because I know there's like the biggest whiskey tuber is Bruzel
01:14:19.207 -->
01:14:23.747and like the community split on him so there's definitely some haters on him
01:14:23.747 -->
01:14:27.207right and he's the biggest one you know what I mean do I is there people that
01:14:27.207 -->
01:14:30.387hate my channel sure do they say it to my face no,
01:14:31.327 -->
01:14:36.567fuck that they'd be stupid to yeah fuck those guys well I mean you know in the
01:14:36.567 -->
01:14:39.467world of social media you're always going to have that right yeah Yeah,
01:14:39.927 -->
01:14:41.667you'd hide behind a keyboard all day. Exactly.
01:14:41.987 -->
01:14:45.447Put yourself out there. Keyboard worries. Like, you can't hate Matt at ADHD.
01:14:45.827 -->
01:14:48.567I mean, that guy's just a charming dude. So I was going to bring him up earlier.
01:14:48.687 -->
01:14:49.687We talked about the Sam Ali thing.
01:14:49.847 -->
01:14:53.587He basically, his whole thing is that he won whiskey tasting a few years ago,
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01:14:55.707and he's the world's best whiskey taster.
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01:14:59.727He did that like in 2020 or 2020. He's still holding that on.
01:14:59.947 -->
01:15:01.827You know, they can never take it away.
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01:15:05.147Oh, I will tell you, if I won anything, no one will hear the end of it.
01:15:05.627 -->
01:15:09.687It's a good show. Yeah, ADHD whiskey. He's awesome. I love Matt. Yeah, that's cool.
01:15:09.847 -->
01:15:14.527So I mean, so going back to your channel too, like you also say that you do a lot of travel.
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01:15:20.334What's one of the coolest places you've been to? What's your travel content
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01:15:23.694like? So I went to, I didn't do any videos on Cuba.
01:15:23.874 -->
01:15:27.234There's a specific reason why, but now I can put it out.
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01:15:32.274But I've been on a plane every single month this year, which has never happened in my life ever.
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01:15:36.374And I didn't think December was going to be one, and now I'm going to Indiana next on Tuesday.
01:15:36.694 -->
01:15:39.094So check December off the list.
01:15:39.494 -->
01:15:45.474So I went to Portugal, I think, twice this year. I went to Puerto Rico twice this year, DR this year.
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01:15:51.674But cuba was definitely like the best trip of the year and i do i did a lot of content from that but,
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01:15:56.134someone didn't want me to post you know like he's in the videos and stuff he
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01:15:59.674doesn't want to be on social media and stuff yeah so i was like okay i'll i'll
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01:16:01.294wait until you're out of your job,
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01:16:06.914so that i can post this cuba stuff but yeah cuba was definitely my funnest trip
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01:16:09.994this year but i went to brazil last year that was pretty cool too all right
01:16:09.994 -->
01:16:16.514now i got the questions go so you've had And you do, you drink bourbon, you sip,
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01:16:21.291where's the bottom like i know you had something that's like oh my god this
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01:16:26.411is microwave dog piss you don't have to say what it was say what it was but
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01:16:30.251like what's what's like something you had and i mean it could be rabbit hole
01:16:30.251 -->
01:16:34.451i mean it could be something else but like so if you go to my channel i did
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01:16:36.651a whole series called worse whiskey wednesdays.
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01:16:43.591Again people love negative content baby boys so
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01:16:46.391i i basically grabbed all the bottles that i didn't like and just
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01:16:49.151to re-review them to see maybe ear in the bottle open them
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01:16:52.171up a little bit or are they just still shit so i
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01:16:55.151did a whole series on that but again i would just always point to
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01:16:57.991dickle and whistle pig as like two brands that i
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01:17:03.631don't personally like anything from see even a 17 year old that i got i was
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01:17:08.031hoping that was gonna be good because a little older still came i think last
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01:17:12.631place in my whiskey cigar club so it wasn't even just me whistle pig 12 year
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01:17:16.631old world for me That's the one, right?
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01:17:21.311The 10, the 15. So you're saying that's the one that's like good.
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01:17:24.371Yes. Okay. Yeah, that's my sweet spot.
01:17:24.911 -->
01:17:28.311I have way too much Whistlepig in my house for a brain I don't like.
01:17:28.471 -->
01:17:30.631I don't understand how I have been. So then why?
01:17:30.971 -->
01:17:33.511Well, I mean, at least you keep trying. There's a difference between a Whistlepig
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01:17:35.61112 and a 12-old world. Okay.
01:17:36.231 -->
01:17:39.49112-old world. Old world. Old world. Old world.
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01:17:46.191That's for me because all Whistlepigs are rye, so I'm not a rye guy, but that's like the one.
01:17:46.191 -->
01:17:50.791The best rye that keeps winning since they've come out with it is a Jack Daniels
01:17:50.791 -->
01:17:56.771single barrel proof ryes, like the gold and green labels. Yeah. It's like 65 bucks.
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01:18:00.491Those are phenomenal. And they just sit on shelves.
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01:18:04.471That's like my favorite rye that's easy to get.
01:18:04.651 -->
01:18:07.451All right. So I'm going to grab one. I always keep it on my shelf.
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01:18:10.991Yeah. I'm going to grab one. I see that green label and I'm like, uh.
01:18:11.411 -->
01:18:15.931Yeah. What the fuck? I don't got a rye. Actually, I had a rare character rye. Okay.
01:18:17.111 -->
01:18:20.471Which it's the craziest thing when Brad was here, right? So,
01:18:20.931 -->
01:18:25.471you know, Brad's here, he got all kinds of stuff, right? And Brad is AJ Fernandez's rep.
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01:18:30.691Yeah, AJ Fernandez's rep. So we, we cracked open that rye and I drank it and
01:18:30.691 -->
01:18:33.391I'm like, oh my God, why'd you bring this dog piss in here?
01:18:33.491 -->
01:18:38.231It was like, and I think part of that might've been neck pouring air.
01:18:38.751 -->
01:18:43.191So once we cleared the neck and then we put it to the side and we were drinking other stuff, right?
01:18:43.861 -->
01:18:48.761So probably 45 minutes to an hour later, we're like, all right,
01:18:48.861 -->
01:18:50.261well, let's have this again.
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01:18:53.081It tasted like a different bottle.
01:18:53.641 -->
01:18:57.101Is that because you were drunk? No. And everything tasted good.
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01:18:59.061No, it was not. No, it was not.
01:18:59.381 -->
01:19:02.901But I mean, neck pour is a real thing. Yeah.
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01:19:08.301Right. I agree with that. And then when air comes in, it can change.
01:19:08.301 -->
01:19:12.621So that's an example of maybe
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01:19:15.501i had it today and once it's open i come back
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01:19:19.001and look at it later and it's like wow
01:19:19.001 -->
01:19:23.581now that was the biggest wow i ever got because that was like i was ready to
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01:19:27.861throw a bottle at somebody versus drinking it well i love our character because
01:19:27.861 -->
01:19:32.301i've had that experience that was it was great well hold off i'm buying a bottle
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01:19:37.021because i have one and i'll Bring it in on Saturday for our bottle swap. All right. Oh, fine.
01:19:37.941 -->
01:19:42.461I'm going to miss that. So speaking of events, right, we're more than welcome
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01:19:44.741to come and hang out or join or participate.
01:19:44.981 -->
01:19:47.621So we do a Christmas bottle swap here. Okay.
01:19:48.201 -->
01:19:53.741So what we do is we set a floor at like 40 bucks. You bring in a bottle, right?
01:19:55.161 -->
01:20:02.381We provide plain brown paper bags. You put your bottle in a bag with a cigar. You get a number.
01:20:03.873 -->
01:20:08.333Once everybody's here, everybody's got a number. Last year, I think we had 28. 28, yep.
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01:20:13.993And then we randomly pick numbers, and then you come up and you grab a bottle off the table.
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01:20:17.313Okay. And then that's what you got. So we kind of bring in food,
01:20:17.373 -->
01:20:18.493and we hang out, we play music.
01:20:18.753 -->
01:20:23.093We're going to add a twist this year, festive, holiday shirt.
01:20:23.093 -->
01:20:26.093If you want to do it, you know, you want to wear your ugly sweater,
01:20:26.273 -->
01:20:28.493put on a hat with sparklers.
01:20:28.593 -->
01:20:31.253Who cares, right? But that's something that we do.
01:20:32.053 -->
01:20:34.313Now, I don't have a hat with sparklers, but I do have a shirt.
01:20:34.673 -->
01:20:38.053So, not this shirt. I got a lot of Christmas shirts.
01:20:38.553 -->
01:20:41.653But you're more than welcome. I probably should have threw it out.
01:20:41.733 -->
01:20:44.073I don't know if you have something going on. Six o'clock. Six o'clock.
01:20:44.353 -->
01:20:45.733Right when I go to work. Got it. I got it.
01:20:47.493 -->
01:20:51.493Shit. I'm coming in earlier, dropping off a bottle, and then I got to bounce,
01:20:51.673 -->
01:20:53.193too. If you want to do that, that's fine, too.
01:20:53.393 -->
01:20:56.113Well, I'm pretty sure that's why Mike asked me to bring a bottle,
01:20:56.213 -->
01:20:58.173because I'm pretty sure that's the bottle he's putting in.
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01:21:04.773I won't tell you what bottle I brought but
01:21:04.773 -->
01:21:08.273yeah we do that and you know we obviously we
01:21:08.273 -->
01:21:11.613would love to have you back before we even said anything but absolutely yeah
01:21:11.613 -->
01:21:17.573this has been this has been awesome this has been great and I mean we're about
01:21:17.573 -->
01:21:22.393an hour and a half in this podcast which I think is a record on this one but
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01:21:24.813that's what I do no it's awesome I love it man,
01:21:25.333 -->
01:21:31.013I think before we go out what's been your favorite I'm going to jump pretty
01:21:31.013 -->
01:21:35.233much try and jumble everything that you do into one answer,
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01:21:40.391Best experience traveling with cigars and bourbon.
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01:21:45.011Oh, nice. With bourbon. That let me use Cuba immediately.
01:21:45.651 -->
01:21:50.131All right. That's awesome. Yeah, because there's rum. Yeah, there's rum. So you got it.
01:21:52.171 -->
01:21:55.431I almost want to say, actually, I'm going to go with this. So when I went to
01:21:55.431 -->
01:21:58.791the Kentucky Bourbon Festival, because there you got the bourbon 100% there.
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01:22:02.811You have a festival that was whatever I shit on it, but still an okay time.
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01:22:05.651But at night you know i brought a bunch of
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01:22:08.811cuban cigars with me and a bunch of cigars because a lot of guys aren't
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01:22:12.031the biggest cigar guys right so i brought some shittier cigars
01:22:12.031 -->
01:22:16.931for the people that aren't gonna enjoy the cubans that i smuggled into the country
01:22:16.931 -->
01:22:24.671yes so you know i love giving cuban cigars to people who enjoy cigars but i've
01:22:24.671 -->
01:22:29.731never got to try cuban cigar just so they can say that they have had one,
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01:22:30.411you know what I mean? Right.
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01:22:36.031So that was probably my great experience. It was like with 11 of us guys there,
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01:22:37.351and it was just a good time, so.
01:22:37.811 -->
01:22:40.791I wonder if he met my future ex-wife. He probably did.
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01:22:44.931He probably did. He definitely met your future ex-wife.
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01:22:49.591In Kentucky? Yeah. Yeah. It was a VIP.
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01:22:57.651VIP. She ran a show, Madrina. Hi, Madrina. Hi, Madrina. Hi, Madrina. Let's go, Madrina. Hey.
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01:23:02.571If you're listening, write us. Get a hold of Cappy.
01:23:03.951 -->
01:23:09.551Cappy's still thinking about you. You can find us at asschatpodcast at gmail.com. Just saying.
01:23:11.922 -->
01:23:15.502We just became a matchmaker podcast, dude. Done deal. I'll tell her.
01:23:15.582 -->
01:23:16.642Dip your toe into everything.
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01:23:22.682No, that's cool. That's cool as hell, man. I think we're ready to kind of wrap this up, man. Let's go.
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01:23:26.882Listen, Carlos, thank you for being here, man. This has been awesome.
01:23:28.182 -->
01:23:31.462I think we're going to continue talking and smoking and drinking.
01:23:31.982 -->
01:23:35.022Definitely drinking. All that kind of stuff. I'm in a rush to go home.
01:23:35.322 -->
01:23:37.542I'm always at a Christmas party. I got the night.
01:23:38.022 -->
01:23:44.502Who's got tomorrow off? That's Madrina. Me. I'll be sorry I wish man I got tomorrow,
01:23:47.302 -->
01:23:50.982well thank you everybody for listening this has been a hell of a fucking podcast
01:23:50.982 -->
01:23:55.522thank you Carlos for being here thank you guys for joining us great stuff we
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01:23:58.002will talk to everyone very soon.