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Speaker 1: To be able to take it to that next level. That's what I'm excited about. Bill brick past Hard with the sack back at the twenty five yard line touchdown. You're standing rock and roll, Tremont said, coast to coast. There is no off season for your Houston Texans. Game day is every day. No, it's Texans, it's all excess. Oh yeah, baby, Welcome into Wednesday edition of Texas All Access. Man, I cannot tell you how awesome it is to be sitting in this seat right now, Mark Vannimir to my right, I am John Harris. I just literally drove here from the U All Place, So you moved. I have dirt and grime all over me. I don't think I've showered for no. I didn't show last night at midnight. So I've got good social distance from you, and I'm happy about that for reasons. Right now, want to smell me. So you moved right before the draft, Johnny, I guess there's no way to avoid this, right because I moved once during football season. There was no way to avoid it. You know, house closings and you know when the house is sold. You can't control those things. You can't, So I get that, but but you're all good for tomorrow because you're about to be on the air for like eighteen hours. So I thought about this. I thought about this my last year coaching. Second period, my quarterback, who's my best player by far, comes find with me and goes coach. I don't feel well, and I'm like, go home. He's like, but if I go home, then they won't let me play because I want to. I said, go home. I'll make sure it's cool, Go, get rest, do whatever you gotta do. He then that was early on Friday. That night, he ran for two hundred and ten yards. He had three touchdowns, including a ninety yard run, and it was the best game he ever played. That's my point is I am totally and completely gassed, but I did I did three interviews. I was scared to do it fourth, but my connection was not great. Um today and I was like, well, I made it through now Saturday about three thirty, but you got to go to at least seven thirty on Saturday. I'll be okay four hours past that three thirty spot. But here's the thing. When you cram for a test, you're worried about how long that information stays with you right, this is a fifteen month project. Yeah, you hear it. It's all in there. Hey was in the barn when they sent the closed date. It was like, it's April twenty eighth. Oh my god, that's third. That's the day of the draft. They had us close today being the sellers. The buyers will do it tomorrow. But point being, we got it all done and it feels weird, but we've got stuff all in a house we're moving into that we're renting, and it's just it's crazy. But the fact that draft is tomorrow will give me that energy. Yeah, and that'll be good. And the energy always carries us. And the draft parties tomorrow, Miller outour theater. We'll be out there and it's going to be just I've seen the pictures and it's weird because I've really the last couple of days, I haven't tried to avoid thinking of the draft, but I try to avoid thinking of the draft party because we haven't had one in a few years. And I'm I'm I'm jacked, like I'm excited for it because to see the people again, to see you know, people talking about the Texans, to see hope on people's faces again about the Texans like hey man, what are we gonna do with these picks? And people getting really excited about that. I think it's really refreshing to have after you know, a year or two of not having that and feeling like man, okay in getting that juice back, of course, going through COVID and all that, and then coming out of COVID last year. But to have a draft party with two picks as it sits right now, as it sits right now, could be three, could be one. We'll see. I don't know, I've got something I'm gonna hit you with with that. But tomorrow night you me Andre Robert Hensley will carry you through on radio. But you gotta get out to Miller Outdoor Theater. I mean, it's just I've seen some of the specs and the pictures. I think you've been out Have you been out there? I thought, yeah, we went to the original site visit to see if it's something we wanted to do right, and we fell in love with the place, but knew there was a lot of work to do, and Disney Harris and her crew have done an amazing job putting it together. She is one of those behind the scenes people that you never really talk about it in public like this, but man does she work so many even for instance, when we went to the Greenbrier, the look out of the Greenbrier and Houston Texans Training Camp and all this other stuff, all the all that bannering and branding and events and parties for the sponsors and partners who came up with us. She did all that, you know, and she does this stuff. So she's put together an incredible presentation. Then Jackie Maldonado Gavin Girt have put together a tremendous stage show at the help of a lot of others. Of course, I'm going to leave people out. Will be set up side of the building. That's sort of stage rights. If you're looking at the stage, it's to the left side of the building, away from the zoo, and we've got a nice circular stage with a good area where people can listen to us from time to time, go back into the theater, do whatever they want. There's food all over the place with the concessions, there's games, all sorts of stuff, all the informations right there in Houston Texans dot Com and the Texans app. The weather's gonna be great so we've got a tremendous situation here, and you're right, Johnny, a lot of excitement about the draft, people asking me everywhere I go. What are they gonna do with the pick? What are they going do with the third pick? What about the thirteenth? Like, I know this stuff, and I put it on Instagram today. I don't know if you saw my Instagram story. You've been busy. I've not seen Instagram Twitter today. I put in that I snuck into the draft room today and I was going to reveal all the secrets tonight. This is what's called a bait and switch. I will not be doing that tonight, revealing all the secrets. I wish I knew the secrets to reveal, and they might not even know at this point. They know if Jacksonville does X, well Detroit does why. I think they do know what they want to do, barring a great offer for the third pick that has not come up yet. So let's get to that, all right. Two pieces of news. One was a report that came from Jim Trotter, who is here in Houston. We're gonna get that in a second. But the first piece, and maybe more important to how the dominoes fall the fact that the Jacksonville Jaguar signed I think it's a three year, fifty four million dollar deal with Cam Robinson, the left tackle, So let's do the domino effect. Okay, does the signing of Robinson change anything about what you thought the first round pick was gonna be as you were gallivanting around this for the jackson for the chat for the Jacks. No, because I think, you know, based on the mocks, and I don't base everything off the mocks, but Aidan Hutchinson and or Treyvon Walker were thought to be number one picks, and then you had the tackles. Maybe it's Evan Neil That's why I had the vander mock. Maybe it's iky Aquanah's the number one overall pick in this draft. You know, we haven't had the left tackle position taking number one in a while, right, Eric Fisher twenty thirty and then Jake Long before that, and no Wake like oh yeah, but and that was the year they had the run on tackles in the first round Dwayne Brown at the end. We know what happened there. So I think it hasn't changed my thinking that much. And I'll tell you this a lot of people think the Texans are gonna take Ikey Aquanu or maybe Evan Neil. I don't know. But Larry may Tutchell's still here. He was, he's not traded, he's under contract. Titus Howard's still here. He could play tackle, and I know they're sort of noncommittal about where he's gonna be. But does that change our opinion about the Texans tackle need or want. I don't know. I just think there's a whole lot of them. I don't know. Are you gonna be shocked if the Jaguars take a tackle now? Yes, okay, because they will not because they got that long term deal done. If they would have left him on the franchise tag, and I had even said, I can't remember who. I mean, there's been so many of them across the board. Hey, we're the're gonna do that number, gonna pick us. Look, I think there's four four guys in it. And they kind of pushed me and challenged me on the tackle part of it, and I said, well, Cam Robinson has been franchised twice and they haven't made up their mind. So that tells you something. Well, the Jaguars made up their minds. I think he's a seven seven a half out of ten, all right. I mean I think there are moments where you see it and you're like, then there are moments where it's a complete total breakdown. I just think there are some inconsistent moments with him. He's got athleticism, he can move, but there's there's just such inconsistency, Like there are times where he's in pass pro and outside arm just whish guy goes right by him. And then there are times where he's on it and just a stone wall and there's nothing, no, no counter move, nothing that a guy can do to beat him. So I do think it's a good move for the Jaguars such that they don't have to take Neil or at Kwanu. They have their guy Cam Robinson's there for three years. Haven't seen the contract details. It might be a one year with who knows, but they at least sign him to a longer deal. I have felt like the last week to ten days that the top two picks in whatever order were Traymon Walker and Aiden Hutchinson, and I don't know which order, I feel like it's those two. Now Detroy could throw a complete curveball I think Jackson's taking Walker Hudginson, and it sounds like Trent Baki wants Walker, sounds like Shod wants Hutchinson, and Doug Peterson is like, can y'all do what you gotta do until I can take over in Balki's out? Who knows, But it's an interesting spout to be for Balkis the GM because oh, everybody's saying, oh, he's like a Alden Smith. Yeah he is, but Alden Smith was a natural pass rusher. I think Walker's got to learn some of that. But Walker Hutchinson won two. And then I've said this a couple of times on radio interviews that done that. The draft of me starts at three, and I don't know because Texas do that eads right. I've said this often. I would never be surprised and I'll never I won't be surprised if they take week Willson three. I've been okay, but it would be a little bit like that's a surprise. It's a bit of a surprise unless, as yesterday, you know what we're gonna take Willis I. But anywhere else here, anywhere else Neil and Aquanu Uh, the edge players, whether it's Thibodeau or who's left at a Hutchinson and Walker. Maybe there's a surprise. But hang on a second before you go any further. Let's say it's Hutchinson and Walker. Doesn't matter what order two? One? Two? Yeah, who's if it's not an old lineman? Three? How surprised are you if it's not? Really? Not surprise? But what's the favorite position? Group position? At three? If those two guys are one and two, I think it should be a U. I felt that should be or will be not You're picking what are they gonna do? It's a great point. I mean the thing about about thinking about Nickossario history, Nick Serio with the new Engham Patriots. They ever picked us high. So it's a little different, I means, your pick. But we kind of know what Nick wants it a player. We kind of have an idea of what the profile that love he's looking for in a player. I looked ahead a little bit and I looked at the tackle class in twenty twenty three, just the potential tack class. Of course you did, and I don't. I don't love it at first glance. Now, I will tell you last year, when I looked at Okay, it's Neil, it's quota. They're at least two guys at the top of this I look at this class and go, hm, I like Connor Galvin from out of Baylor. I think he's got an opportunity to be a first round He's a heck of a player. But I don't see the kneeler a quanta that I go that guy's going top five. Okay, well that's a good point right there. So because Titus, he's not under contract forever and a Laramie who knows right, right, exactly exactly, so maybe you go get the guy now. I think there's an interesting dynamic with the third pick, though it's so high that you're thinking, well, who deserves to be the third pick? The money you make, the status, that status, stature, whatever whatever power or oomf it holds within the organization to be the third pick in the draft. I don't know if they look at it that way, because there's so many good players available. I just think, Johnny, you take the best available player. I don't want to be cliche or whoever they think can help the team, the most best available guy on the board in a position of quote need. And there are a lot of them, but do your thing, take them third move on. Nick said, don't overthink this, okay, and I and I mean, I think it's great advice. I think it's hard to follow because when you have from January till now and you're thinking about that pick. Where am I? Where are we picking? We're picking three, You're thinking about every option and consequence of going with that. Okay, who is it going to be at three? Okay, well this guy, this guy could go off board. So PF and Draft Network had those mock simulators. Whi's really cool and it's always interesting. I try to do one one a day. Last week or so, I haven't done as many, but I've tried to do at least one a day. Sometimes I've done with trade, sometimes done without trades. Sometimes I've tried to do like multiple trades, like how many trades I can do and see how much I could accumulate. One time I did one that had trades that gave me seventeen picks, which I know Nick's not gonna do. But it was always interesting at number three because what they do is they just show you the once one and two are done automatically, they show Okay, who do you want to draft? And they show you the list basically the board of how they ranked players and who's left. And it was amazing to go through that exercise and see who would be who would go one and two? And the last couple of weeks it seemed to be more consistent with Walker and Hutchinson Hutchinson Walker. Now you're sitting at three and you're staring at Stanley and Sauce Nilakanu. Those four guys seem to keep they seem to keep popping up. Is their receiver? I've heard this week Gary Wilson's name, which I would have no issue with Watchington. Isn't Wilson there at thirteen? Though I think he is. I can't remember who I was saying it this morning. Maybe it was Landry or I can't remember either. Somebody said Garrett Wilson falling to thirteen. That's about where I have him, and I think a fall is it? Yeah? I don't think. I don't think. See, I have a love as wide receiver one. I got a love one. I still love Traylon Burkes. He's two, Jamison's three, I believe, London four and then Wilson Wilson four London five like. I like London. I've always liked London. I watched this basketball tape and that's think of me now and again you get caught in this guy's too fast, this guy's too slow, He's this, he's that. Go watch him playing another sport. Yeah, watched Drake London. Watch Drake London, go do a five forty dunk? Yeah, like a jam Or Rant job breaker. Yes, yes, I mean it's it's pretty sick. So the fact that they're sitting there in three thirteen an opportunity get two elite players. I think the two questions I had going in. Number one, would Jacksonville commit to Cam Robinson beforehand? That's been answered today. Number Two, does anybody in the NFL want to put Chips all in and say we're taking a quarterback and want to come up and move up? And I don't see that happening. I really don't. I did my first mockt this high, not not this high, maybe not at all. I when I did my second mock, after just thinking it all the way through, I thought, what I trade up for Malik Willis? Would I trade up for Kenny Pickett? I would trade up for Willis? Yeah, I don't know where i'd want to do it. What I trade for Desmond Ritter and I don't know. Ritter was the first quarterback had going off the board at New Orleans. That's just the gut feeling I've had with New Orleans at nineteen. Okay, so you think you're calling your shot here that Ritter's the first QB taken. I think, well, you're not gonna be surprising one. Ritter, I go one. Yeah. I think with the quarterbacks, I think it's there's kind of a kind of a flavor of the muff, if you will. For teams, yeah, some are like vanilla, some are like chocolate. And where you go. A lot of people think Pittsburgh takes Willis and that's the one to keep an eye at thirteen. I think that's a good pick because you have Trubisky there. You can hold it down for a bit. Maybe Willis emerges right away. You could start up day one. Maybe he needs some time to mature, to ripen, whatever, and you can play Trubisky until Willis is ready. Maybe you play at Willis package. I don't know, but it doesn't force you to start Willis when you have Trubisky acquired right, it's like drafting to Shaun Watson having Tom Savage. Wait a minute, different but it lasted thirty minutes and great, it's the same, but different. You know, practice quarterback looked great practice, No he did. I know. It's really good in practice. I know. And then when he got into game against Jacksonville when we need good Yeah, but no, against Jacksonville, remember when he came in Brocket throwing three picks. He looked good in that game. Sabotage the next But here's the thing, and I confess to this, just the burning desire to have a quarterback, right, Yeah, after going through what we went through in fourteen and then fifteen, and then sixteen when Brock had that really good game against the Colts and the comeback. Yeah, I'm not gonna go into what I said that night. And then and then you're winning games with Brock somehow, but he's throwing for ninety nine yards and Jacksonville, you still win the game. And along the way, you were slowly emerging as the number one defense in the league. It's still a trouble beating out what Yeah, it was Clowney in Mercus saw Whitney last week at the Houston Sports Awards. Yeah, and we were talking about those two years, fifteen and sixteen, how the defense numbers wise, it was really good. The offense just couldn't really hold up there into the bargain to make it a more productive team. They went to the playoffs both years, but didn't get to where you want it to go. Okay, So I'm gonna tell the story now because it's five and a half years after the fact. Oh gosh, so just the locker rooms never mind, No no no, no, so no, no, no, no, not that story, not that story. Okay. So Savage comes into that game and sixteen right against the Jacksonville it's Jacksonville. Yeah, it's at home. He lights it up. I mean the place was charged up. We were charged up. Got to win this game. Yeah, we're down fourteen, I think I think when he came in, got to win it. I mean we're down. I mean, Brocket throwing three receptions is bad. Savage brings us back. It's excitement. Now We're playing Cincinnati on Christmas Eve night, correct, And the first half is a struggle, and about I don't know about halfway through the second we go to a break and all of a sudden here Drake go, hey, is this the guy y'all wanted to see? It? It was just we go to break It's quiet for zees, Hey is this the guy you all wanted to see? We're like and I'm like, you'll be quiet. He'll be fine, He'll be fine. Yeah, alphrel Blue had a good night. Had that what twenty something yard touchdown run? They won twelve to ten. Thank you Randy Bullick for missing the field goal. It was twelve to ten. Johnny Savage had one drive of four plays that was magnificent. You know, those two years, how many games did they win where the score was ridiculously low? Right, Like Bengals ten to six on the road, Colts sixteen to ten. The next year Bengals at home Christmas Eve twelve to ten to clinch the division. How many games at the end of the first quarter zero zero? Oh or three zero? We go through the first fifteen minutes like, no, nothing, you need nothing, but h you got me on a on a savvage side track here, you know, and uh and you know, you know we like Tom and everything, but that just didn't work out. Yea. And but to your point, look, Trubisky has started before he was number two overall pick. Yeah, if you have a situation in Pittsburgh's the type of team that would make sense for Malik Willis. You have now Kevin Colbert is leaving his GM, but you have Mike Tomlin there who has been there for fifteen years and think the season sixteen. There's continuity there. Tomlin is tremendous around young players. It's amazing to watch Tomlin the Senior Bowl to just he's on on the sidelines and he talks to everybody. Oh yeah, everybody, And it's not as if he's seeking them out. Now he will go over and talk to some people. Sometimes people seek him out, and it's amazing. He just sits there. You see him walk up and you can without here you can kind of see body language, and they all want to talk to him. Sure, I mean, everybody wants to talk to Tomlin. And I get the feeling his players probably feel the same way. Players want to play for him. I mean, we didn't know anything about Antonio Brown until he stopped playing for Mike Tomlin. Yeah, so who knows what tom I was putting up with. I think Pittsburgh will be a great spot for one of the quarterbacks, and the worst kept secret at the Senior Bowl was at Tomlin Steelers like willis over pick it over the hometown guy and then the ride and then pick it kind of took off and it was like, WHOA, I don't know if Pitts we're gonna get there. I think Pittsburgh would be a prime spot for number thirteen. I mentioned Jim Trotter. He had a tweet today, I want to bounce off you next because I think that's the way I've been thinking. I would trade both. But Jim Trotter had some information about what Nick Cassario might do with three and thirteen. We'll have that for you next on Texans All Access. Texans All Access continues in a moment. You can't put a price on good sleep, but at Mattress Firms Unjunk your Sleep Sale you can save up a four hundred dollars for a limited time, save un select mattresses from seeing plus, get a freadjustable base with qualifying Seally, purchase up to a four ninety nine value, or shop temper Peding, the most highly recommended bet in America and get a three hundred dollars instant gift. Good towards sleep accessories only at Mattress Firm, the number one temper peting retailer. Restrictions supply c store or Mattress from dot com for details, Just from dot com for details. Just from dot com for details. Back to the show, they teach you plugged in with the Houston Texans twenty four hours and I don't know about thirty three minutes yep on the air two and thirty. Yeah, it's going to be fantastic. NFL Draft twenty twenty two. What's been your favorite draft to cover? I know I have one. You have one? Remember a draft to cover? This is a great question, Johnny, What has been my favorite draft? I think I liked Um, I might have liked fifteen or sixteen. I thought those were fun because that was your second or third year with us and we were kind of hitting the groove, you know, the first year, so you Texans. Well, I had the schedules organized and I was like, well, we can't put Johnny on the whole day on Saturday. It's eight hours. So said the first four hours, it gets a break, you know, I don't want to wear them out. But Johnny's sitting right there, I'm talking about you in the third person right now, sitting right there, like like just wanted to get in the game. Ended up putting on the headset a bunch anyway, just chiming in because whoever was on doesn't know what you know. Nobody does. So I mean, you're doing the draft without having to look stuff up. Once we get passed round one, I'm looking up everything, like I'm googling. The names are familiar, but you want to get you know, just be sure, and I mean just too many players. You know them all and it's fun. Rarely have you had to sort of look. There was one Texans player, gosh blanket out on the name, drafted in the six or seven three like Kelly No Client. Oh yeah, Shot Client, Yeah from USF. Yeah I hadn't. I had known of him, but I really didn't do much work on him. Yeah that was like the six or seventh round. Yeah, I was not paying attention to Shot. Clid was like, yeah, I mean I've seen USF play, but I was not paying too much attention. Unfortunately, he runs down a kickoff and gets hurt. Mine would be the first year, twenty fourteen doing the draft party that night and clowning gets drafted. It was. It was awesome. It was experiencing the Texans from a different lens. Yeah for me and we've been doing it. Being up being up there with you was it was really cool. The other one is probably the COVID year, even though we weren't all together watching how everything came together, because what I remember about that entire time was well, they can't have a draft, they can't do this. There's no way, they can't have free agency, they can't do this, like all these different things that the general public was saying, you can't do, you can't do, you can't do that, And all of sudden, the NFL I was like, no, we're gonna do it, and here's how we're gonna do it, and then pulled it off and it was awesome. It was intimate. It in people's homes, the coach's homes, Telichick's dog, Goodell's basement. We are interviewing players on zoom so we could see them and traditionally it's always audio only, and it was just different. It felt more together. Ironically, it felt more together than ever it was. It was totally bizarre and yet really cool. I mean, obviously the fun part of the drafts being on the air. But then we go to break and we're like, oh, okay, that was a that trade. This all the things that go on behind the scenes, I love. But now we're doing it through COVID and I'm sitting there. I don't even know if I have shoes on or socks. I don't even I mean, I know I had a shirt on at that point. I don't know what else, but all they could see us on zoom we were doing an audio. But that also was the year that and I brought this up with him the other day. So I'm in the building, John Grenard, and you asked me, who would you like to see? Who do you think at number nine? At number ninety? And I said, why, I love this guy from Florida, John Grenard. I there's something there. And we had gone down to Galveston for spring break and I brought my surface and I had him on my list of players to watch it. So I picked out the Missouri game and he goes off and I'm like, I want him. I want this guy right here from Florida. And not two weeks later, there's an popped up on YouTube SEC Network segment and he did it with John Stinchcombe I think it was. Yeah, it was either Matt or John one or the other and talking about pass rushing and you could just I didn't even hear it. You can just see his hands away, he's moving his hands and said, oh, that's what he's what. They went on for about seven or eight minutes. I'm like, wow, I want this guy. And so when you asked me him, like that's the guy want I want him. And then they take him and they take him and I told him that story. He goes, yeah, yeah, I knew that, but I didn't know the full I didn't know the full story. So so it was pretty cool that. And I actually had interviewed him down at the Senior Bowl too before that, before COVID hit. That's pretty cool. I got to interview him because I was going down there interview and thinking, we're gonna dropt an edge player. We gotta have some edge we gotta have some pass rushers. So I interviewed everyone, Daryl Taylor, Josh Uch Gernard, there's a couple others in there that I interviewed, like almost all of them, And so there's somewhere there's a John Grenard Senior Bowl interview somewhere in our somewhere in our ether world that's an all time or it's there, that's right up there with Dak Prescott, who you talked to as well, and who did a social media post for us. I said he wanted to come play for the Texas. Yeah, Dak Prescott said that to find the Senior Bowl. Well, here's what Jim Trotter said to say. He's at NRG Stadium this week. He is, he is in the pocket at an Energy Stadium. He said this today. He tweeted this earlier this afternoon. I happened to be in the movie truck as I was listening. I think Landry and John brought it up. What are the chances Houston uses both the third and thirteen picks? Jim nick Casserio tells me there's a ninety nine percent chance at three and a maybe fifty to sixty chants at thirteen. Has talked to sixty eight teams as part of due diligence, open to going up as well as down, depending up players still available from their board. And I heard that. I thought that jobs, with everything that we have been talking about lately, that if you could get a trade for three. It's pretty much a slam. Do you take it because you're gonna get seconds, third force this year in future years, you take it. I pick one of these. I'll give you three things that could happen, and none of them are thirteen remains at thirteen. One of them is you move up from thirteen somehow there's a player you like to get him in the top ten, and you're gonna give up whatever you give up. You move down from thirteen to wherever you're gonna go, teams, whatever, or you moved back into the first round late, so you've picked it three and thirteen, and you want to sneak back into the first round late Thursday night, and you spend whatever you spend to do that to move up from thirty seven. And right now, Jonathan Joseph is supposed to announce thirty seven, Oh yeah, all right in the second round of Friday night. And I hope he gets to do that. But if you trade that pick, he won't. So yeah, probably something like that. So which one of those three? Pick one? Now you know, I'm not typically a trade up guy. I am almost I'm almost never a trade up guy. I have a hard time believing they had trade up from thirteen. They must love the player if if a player starts to fall. I said this the other day, but players starts the fall that you think supposed to go top five? Who is gonna totally shock you to fall? Other than Hutchinson? I think one of the linemen O'Neil. Okay, somebody who's just not enamored for whatever reason. All right, so somebody takes cross over one of those guys because hey, we like him better. Oh true, tackle who's the corner from Washington. I'm blanking Tran McDuffie. You know who he is in this draft. He's Kareem Jackson. Baby. The other day, the way Kareem jumped in front of Kyle Wilson, all right in two thousand and ten and a lot of people thought Wilson was gonna go ahead of Kareem, and we were talking about Wilson or McCardy and all of a sudden, the Texans have the picket. It's Kareem. But now that was later in the first round. I get it. McDuffie is gonna jump one of those guys that. It's so funny you say, because I used the exact same comp the other day. McDuffie is Kareem Jackson. Absolutely is Kareem Jackson. And if people can get beyond what happened to him as a rookie and look at what he did from eleven through the rest of his career in Houston, would you take that at thirteen? Hell yeah, I would. If they call his name Trent mcduffe, if they sit tight at thirteen and like mcduffy's our guy and they took him, I would love it. I would love it. He is exactly what they want to because he's not I shouldn't say exactly from a football playing standpoint. He's what they'll like. He's not from a sightweight size standpoint. I mean, Sauce is six three, Stingley six foot and a half. I think McDuffie's five ten five eleven, so he's short, but he's like Kareem in that way. Kream. I remember seeing one time Kaream they've listened Cream at six one. I was like six one. I was like, I've talked to Kream a million times and I'm looking I'm looking down at him and I'm six foot. I have never been a trade up guy, but I have a feeling just given the needs of this team, which, as you said, there there are few, there's gonna be a player that falls down to number ten or eleven that you're going, Hey, whoa. We thought this guy was gonna be top five, no question we were. We thought for sure Sauce was gonna be top five. We thought Stingley was gonna be top five, We thought Neil was gonna be top five. And all of a sudden they're sitting there at ten or eleven. What does it cost you though? That's yeah, and that's why I said ten or eleven. I don't I'm not spending a one on that. No, no, no, no, I think a two or or maybe a three this year one, Uh, you're three one of your threes? Oh, I'd give a one of my threes, and there were three and maybe, uh, I don't want to give up my three and a three. Next you're gonna get thirteen. Wait, what are we getting from the Browns and the Sean deal? Four next year or three next year? I thought it was a three next it's the three next year and at fourth the following year. So so you got the Browns fourth this year, the Browns third next year. Yeah, So give him, give him the Saints third number eighty, and then give him the third next year. See if you can pull it off, move up to they'd want to do that, Okay, So all right, so they need more. They're gonna want the two said, that's never been my option. But if I'm sitting there looking at a guy and I'm thinking, WHOA, I did not think he was gonna be here at ten or eleven, maybe you end up doing it. Maybe teams started to pass on Stingy because because he hasn't played in a while and they're just not man, I might I'd do that. I do sting I'd take Stingley at three. You would. I'd love these two corners, I mean the two corners. Or they're gonna take a lot of heat for taking Stingley at three. But I get it in the sense that on paper, hey, he hasn't played well or played a lot, since that's gonna be that's gonna be a narrative. But you're right, it's it's all a narrative like that. You could come up with positives and negatives on anybody the art. They're gonna go down three, there's no doubt. And I mean a Quanto seems solid. Neil seems super solid. Walker seems hey, Walker is gonna get some some gruff here. It's gonna be well, he doesn't really get sacks, is he is? He gonna make it plays. See, here's here's where hot he sacks did what have in college? The senior year he had I think he got the double figures. Okay, I think he got the double figures the senior year, but no one believed it would be this outstanding NFL nas rusher. They thought he's just gonna be a really solid d lineman. Here's where we're doing toron Walker at his service, And I say we the collective draft, Yeah yeah, Twitterati and analysts and whatever. They keep a friend Tom Walker as an edge player, like, he's not an edge player, he's a defensive lineman. To talk to Sean and Seth about this this morning. He's not a he's not an edge player. He's an inside outside guy. And that's you know how DeMarcus Walker was used last year. That's how Treyvon Walker can be used. But Treyvon's got more explosive assets, He's got more twitch, and you can bounce him inside. You get him against the guard. Wold. But everybody keeps talking about him as an edge rusher, And so as soon as you say edge rusher, what gets in your head? Yeah, strip sacks? You know how many times he's not gonna ball away all that kind of stuff if he's part of a ferocious front flour for Lovey Smith, Right, fine, right, but he's not dropping to the Texans according to the mocks. But I remember I remember talking to I think it was Nathan Zigirl, who was a silent reporter basically me in Cleveland, and we're talking about Miles, Miles Garrett and Mons has had a tremendous career. I mean he's had a really good career. Well, Miles has coming out of a m and he gets drafted number one of for all, that changes everything because everybody in Cleveland wants him to have thirty sacks a year and win five five Super Bowls in the first two years, and the expectations were so high. Miles was reaching the expectation the team set out, but the fans oh number one overall. That's why there's a part of me not that I want this to happen to Traymon Walker, because I think he's a good guy. I think he's a really good football player. But Traymon Walker goes number one, he's gonna be set up for failure because of that, because fans are gonna expect him to be a fourteen fifteen sack of Year guy, and that's not who he is. But Johnny, why is he a number one pick overall prospect? Because he's six five, he's two seventy two, he runs in the four to five range. He's got every elite asset you want in a defensive linement. He's violent, he can move, you're not. So I'm one hand. We're saying, hey, don't worry about lack of sacks in college and things like that, but in the NFL, will they be there or will be more like a TfL that he's clowny because he's out on the edge necessarily like the way clown He was right, But but Clowney suffered from the expectation of night. He's got to get sacks exactly. Mario Williams got a lot more sacks than Cloudy. Cloudy suffered from that. But when you looked within, he's a disruptor. He's making TFLs, he's stopping the run, he's doing things like that. Is that way you're seeking from Walker, and actually a different kind of play right right with Walker, I think you can go three all the way out to nine. Three technique all the way out to nine. He could play over the three. He's strong enough to hold up against guards. Not every single play, but in run plays at times against guards, he's gonna be able to hold up. He's got strength, he's got length. He can do that when he rushes and when he passed rushes against the guard, he's beating him with counter moves. He's quick and he's strong enough to handle you know, quick sets and things like that. Then he bumps out four I five going against the tackle. He's quick enough to win off the edge, although I don't think that's the thing he does best. Then you can bump him all the way out to nine, and he can play like an outside linebacker. So he can do all those things, which there aren't very many people that can do it. But if you're expecting him, like you said, to be an edge rusher, like just go sack a quarterback, that's not gonna be his cup of tea, like Clowney, And that hurt Clowney here because everyone's like, well, he should be getting ten sacks a year, and who knows what happened. You know, JD had the injuries the first couple of years. Maybe that took away some of it. But the one thing about JD, and I haven't seen this with treyvonn yet, Trayvon just does everything really well. Clowney could take over games. We saw it. I mean he could take over a game and dominated Philly and twenty eighteen dominant. Now the next two weeks may not show up to play. Maybe an issue. What last year at Wisconsin seven sacks one pick man? About that tackles for a loss? Wait a minute, Yeah, that's a pretty good is twenty one sound? I knew there was a big number in there for Okay, I wasn't sure. I didn't think it was sacks sacks. I had like twelve twenty one TFLs for what? And then is what a decent comparison for what? Yeah? I think so, I think Wat's a little bigger. I think Walker's a little bit uh faster and a little bit leaner. But maybe statistically or just the whole complexion of us and how he's used on JJ played on the edge. If I remember right at Wisconsin. JJ played on the edge of the time if I remember correctly, but he was doing at two ninety or whatever. He was buzz cut buzz cut JJ a long time ago. Oh boy, All right, draft is coming up tomorrow. We're gonna go official next. Who we think we'll be at number three and we'll discuss thirteen. That's a little bit too hard to figure out, but we'll put it on Wax who was at number three. That's next. The Texans All Access More Texans Radio is on the way. What destinations are on your financial checklist? A new home, a new savings account, whatever it may be. TDECU offers better ways to save and do more with your money. Join TDECU, the Official credit Union of the Houston Texans. 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They gave that pick up and they picked up one seventy So too soon to draft DJ Perry in the fifth round. Got it? Yeah? Maybe maybe undrafted free agent. Maybe now he'll get drafted. He'll get your will, Yes, Okay, he'll get you. He'll get d John Perry's son, by the way, former Texans wide receivers coach. No, not son, nephew, Oh, nephew, that's right, Yeah, he's yeah. Their Perrys all over the place. Wait but his son played at Clements, right, yes, his son, Yes, John played at Clements Okay, now is that Merrimack were really Yeah where I think John coach for a while, So yeah, he's up there, all right, my random or John Harris. He ye, we're running out of time all access and it's time to give your number three pick. But before you do that, I say something this morning. I want to hit your thoughts because I don't have anything wrong with it, but I do think it's interesting and I'm curious. Jemmy Johnson we've seen pop up here on the ESPN defensive and Florida State. He's an outstanding player. But Seth, I'm saying today that his dad shows up at every practice. So you know, rout your car, Roger Car, we miss you. So I ask you a question disruptive, like what was it like when Roger was around? When David Is played a quarterback? You know, I think it wasn't as disruptive until they started to lose badly in two thousand and five, and then it became this major issue and dom Capers had to ban all visitors from practice, which was a complete swing of the pendulum. Instead, I mean, I suppose he could have said listen only once every couple of weeks with permission in. Of course, you want to occasionally have a guest. Kubiak used to have some guests every once in a while, or you know, a former coach friend, or whoever it might be. You never know who's going to show up or who wants to observe practice. As long as it's not a parade, it's fine. Yeah. But as far as Jermaine Johnson's dad, you know, Seth said, this is not like Todd Marinovitch's dad. Maybe Sean who dropped that one, or I don't even know if they dropped the Roger Carr name. When I was listening to this, but they I would think that love. He would say, listen, yeah, every once in a while, fine, but not every practice. This is the NFL, baby, they don't do that here. You know, I would doubt that would be happening with an NFL team, but you never know, it happened here once upon a time. The other thing about Roger Carr's David Carr's dad was, I believe this could be urban legend because I don't remember specifically that every once in a while, like they'd stay late. He'd talked to his dad and his brother, Darren, who actually played at university who used him for a little bit. Did he give him a ride back to the building every once in a while. I don't know if he did that or not. But anyway, and the cars are one people. I mean, I love the cars, but I think I thought that was you know, maybe yeah, you'd have to talk to the players as to whether it was a distraction. Great question for Seth. I don't know Number three picked. Tomorrow night, we're sitting there. Walker goes first to Jacksonville Detroit says, we've got to have Hutchinson go blue. Picking number three? Is I predict it will be a quantum at that point? That's my prediction. You know, I don't know who I would draft because I don't have all the information they have. I always say this, they have access to information that you don't have, folks, and they'll make the best decision. They know. How that doesn't always mean they're gonna make the right decision, because otherwise everybody would be hitting home runs in this NFL draft thing. There wouldn't be guys dropping into round two that turn into Pro Bowlers, Round three, four, whatever. David buck tr was what a fourth round draft choice? Right redraft? That one redraft last year, where's Roy Lopez going in a redraft of two thousand one? He won second round, you know something like that. And of course, wow, definitely a lot earlier than he went a lot earlier. Yeah, a lot earlier. Okay, we don't have to talk about that right now. That's your prediction. That's well, that's an interesting piece you bring up because Jacksonville wouldn't take him, But would what Detroit have if Davis Spills went back for twenty twenty one to Stanford have the year that I expected A sat right in his seat and said, look, if this guy was coming out next year, you'd be a first round or do you have a full year owner's belt? Stanford get back to some sort of normal sey in twenty twenty one. He would be a top quarterback in the draft. In fact, he would be the top quarterback. Would Detroit take him at number two or would he used to be taking him at number three? I'll worry about that because it took him last year. I'm with you, has felt like the guy for a long time. To me, a long time. I'm not talking about weeks, months, maybe even a year. It's been a while since I'm like that guy, and I don't care. He's eventually gonna play tackle. He's eventually going to play tackle. Now it's all different because the Saints picked Anders Pete and number thirteen as opposed to taking guy at number three. But I'm just Pete was taking to be a left tackle and he's played guard his entire career with the Saints, So you never know. So you never know if you end up taking a guard. I mean, look at Wade Smith. Wade Smith played tackle, guard center. Say a quarter goes to four Pro Bowls as a guard and you're drafted a number three, will you have felt I know, just using that, it's a metric. You don't know how everything else goes. Would you imagine a guy goes to four Pro Bowls as a guard number three year and feel like, yeah, I'm at home? Wrong with that? Right? Are you kidding? Offensive lineman going to the Pro Bowl? Yeah? Hinch me, Yes, let's go. I will take it tomorrow night. Right here, we'll be well, we'll have Texas All Access from six to seven tomorrow night. DBC will run that. We will take over at seven pm. Right here, We'll take you through the end of the first Round'll be here all weekend. Friday night, Seth will join us. Saturday, Clint and Sean will join me, and then Mark will coming in from the last half. What nikiss love Smith, what players don't what? Everything you'll want right here on Texans Radio. Mark appreciate. It's good to see your game, Johnny Chris, nice job, my friend. We will see you. Tomar It's draft time. Have your final one night draft. Sleep everybody and go Texans. This is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten. You can feel it right now, you can hear it. It's all around you. It's the air we share. As the world's number one air conditioning company, Dyken is committed to perfecting the year that connects us all where we work, where we play, and where we grow. 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Speaker 1: To be able to take it to that next level. That's what I'm excited about. Bill brick past Hard with the sack back at the twenty five yard line touchdown. You're standing rock and roll, Tremont said, coast to coast. There is no off season for your Houston Texans. Game day is every day. No, it's Texans, it's all excess. Oh yeah, baby, Welcome into Wednesday edition of Texas All Access. Man, I cannot tell you how awesome it is to be sitting in this seat right now, Mark Vannimir to my right, I am John Harris. I just literally drove here from the U All Place, So you moved. I have dirt and grime all over me. I don't think I've showered for no. I didn't show last night at midnight. So I've got good social distance from you, and I'm happy about that for reasons. Right now, want to smell me. So you moved right before the draft, Johnny, I guess there's no way to avoid this, right because I moved once during football season. There was no way to avoid it. You know, house closings and you know when the house is sold. You can't control those things. You can't, So I get that, but but you're all good for tomorrow because you're about to be on the air for like eighteen hours. So I thought about this. I thought about this my last year coaching. Second period, my quarterback, who's my best player by far, comes find with me and goes coach. I don't feel well, and I'm like, go home. He's like, but if I go home, then they won't let me play because I want to. I said, go home. I'll make sure it's cool, Go, get rest, do whatever you gotta do. He then that was early on Friday. That night, he ran for two hundred and ten yards. He had three touchdowns, including a ninety yard run, and it was the best game he ever played. That's my point is I am totally and completely gassed, but I did I did three interviews. I was scared to do it fourth, but my connection was not great. Um today and I was like, well, I made it through now Saturday about three thirty, but you got to go to at least seven thirty on Saturday. I'll be okay four hours past that three thirty spot. But here's the thing. When you cram for a test, you're worried about how long that information stays with you right, this is a fifteen month project. Yeah, you hear it. It's all in there. Hey was in the barn when they sent the closed date. It was like, it's April twenty eighth. Oh my god, that's third. That's the day of the draft. They had us close today being the sellers. The buyers will do it tomorrow. But point being, we got it all done and it feels weird, but we've got stuff all in a house we're moving into that we're renting, and it's just it's crazy. But the fact that draft is tomorrow will give me that energy. Yeah, and that'll be good. And the energy always carries us. And the draft parties tomorrow, Miller outour theater. We'll be out there and it's going to be just I've seen the pictures and it's weird because I've really the last couple of days, I haven't tried to avoid thinking of the draft, but I try to avoid thinking of the draft party because we haven't had one in a few years. And I'm I'm I'm jacked, like I'm excited for it because to see the people again, to see you know, people talking about the Texans, to see hope on people's faces again about the Texans like hey man, what are we gonna do with these picks? And people getting really excited about that. I think it's really refreshing to have after you know, a year or two of not having that and feeling like man, okay in getting that juice back, of course, going through COVID and all that, and then coming out of COVID last year. But to have a draft party with two picks as it sits right now, as it sits right now, could be three, could be one. We'll see. I don't know, I've got something I'm gonna hit you with with that. But tomorrow night you me Andre Robert Hensley will carry you through on radio. But you gotta get out to Miller Outdoor Theater. I mean, it's just I've seen some of the specs and the pictures. I think you've been out Have you been out there? I thought, yeah, we went to the original site visit to see if it's something we wanted to do right, and we fell in love with the place, but knew there was a lot of work to do, and Disney Harris and her crew have done an amazing job putting it together. She is one of those behind the scenes people that you never really talk about it in public like this, but man does she work so many even for instance, when we went to the Greenbrier, the look out of the Greenbrier and Houston Texans Training Camp and all this other stuff, all the all that bannering and branding and events and parties for the sponsors and partners who came up with us. She did all that, you know, and she does this stuff. So she's put together an incredible presentation. Then Jackie Maldonado Gavin Girt have put together a tremendous stage show at the help of a lot of others. Of course, I'm going to leave people out. Will be set up side of the building. That's sort of stage rights. If you're looking at the stage, it's to the left side of the building, away from the zoo, and we've got a nice circular stage with a good area where people can listen to us from time to time, go back into the theater, do whatever they want. There's food all over the place with the concessions, there's games, all sorts of stuff, all the informations right there in Houston Texans dot Com and the Texans app. The weather's gonna be great so we've got a tremendous situation here, and you're right, Johnny, a lot of excitement about the draft, people asking me everywhere I go. What are they gonna do with the pick? What are they going do with the third pick? What about the thirteenth? Like, I know this stuff, and I put it on Instagram today. I don't know if you saw my Instagram story. You've been busy. I've not seen Instagram Twitter today. I put in that I snuck into the draft room today and I was going to reveal all the secrets tonight. This is what's called a bait and switch. I will not be doing that tonight, revealing all the secrets. I wish I knew the secrets to reveal, and they might not even know at this point. They know if Jacksonville does X, well Detroit does why. I think they do know what they want to do, barring a great offer for the third pick that has not come up yet. So let's get to that, all right. Two pieces of news. One was a report that came from Jim Trotter, who is here in Houston. We're gonna get that in a second. But the first piece, and maybe more important to how the dominoes fall the fact that the Jacksonville Jaguar signed I think it's a three year, fifty four million dollar deal with Cam Robinson, the left tackle, So let's do the domino effect. Okay, does the signing of Robinson change anything about what you thought the first round pick was gonna be as you were gallivanting around this for the jackson for the chat for the Jacks. No, because I think, you know, based on the mocks, and I don't base everything off the mocks, but Aidan Hutchinson and or Treyvon Walker were thought to be number one picks, and then you had the tackles. Maybe it's Evan Neil That's why I had the vander mock. Maybe it's iky Aquanah's the number one overall pick in this draft. You know, we haven't had the left tackle position taking number one in a while, right, Eric Fisher twenty thirty and then Jake Long before that, and no Wake like oh yeah, but and that was the year they had the run on tackles in the first round Dwayne Brown at the end. We know what happened there. So I think it hasn't changed my thinking that much. And I'll tell you this a lot of people think the Texans are gonna take Ikey Aquanu or maybe Evan Neil. I don't know. But Larry may Tutchell's still here. He was, he's not traded, he's under contract. Titus Howard's still here. He could play tackle, and I know they're sort of noncommittal about where he's gonna be. But does that change our opinion about the Texans tackle need or want. I don't know. I just think there's a whole lot of them. I don't know. Are you gonna be shocked if the Jaguars take a tackle now? Yes, okay, because they will not because they got that long term deal done. If they would have left him on the franchise tag, and I had even said, I can't remember who. I mean, there's been so many of them across the board. Hey, we're the're gonna do that number, gonna pick us. Look, I think there's four four guys in it. And they kind of pushed me and challenged me on the tackle part of it, and I said, well, Cam Robinson has been franchised twice and they haven't made up their mind. So that tells you something. Well, the Jaguars made up their minds. I think he's a seven seven a half out of ten, all right. I mean I think there are moments where you see it and you're like, then there are moments where it's a complete total breakdown. I just think there are some inconsistent moments with him. He's got athleticism, he can move, but there's there's just such inconsistency, Like there are times where he's in pass pro and outside arm just whish guy goes right by him. And then there are times where he's on it and just a stone wall and there's nothing, no, no counter move, nothing that a guy can do to beat him. So I do think it's a good move for the Jaguars such that they don't have to take Neil or at Kwanu. They have their guy Cam Robinson's there for three years. Haven't seen the contract details. It might be a one year with who knows, but they at least sign him to a longer deal. I have felt like the last week to ten days that the top two picks in whatever order were Traymon Walker and Aiden Hutchinson, and I don't know which order, I feel like it's those two. Now Detroy could throw a complete curveball I think Jackson's taking Walker Hudginson, and it sounds like Trent Baki wants Walker, sounds like Shod wants Hutchinson, and Doug Peterson is like, can y'all do what you gotta do until I can take over in Balki's out? Who knows, But it's an interesting spout to be for Balkis the GM because oh, everybody's saying, oh, he's like a Alden Smith. Yeah he is, but Alden Smith was a natural pass rusher. I think Walker's got to learn some of that. But Walker Hutchinson won two. And then I've said this a couple of times on radio interviews that done that. The draft of me starts at three, and I don't know because Texas do that eads right. I've said this often. I would never be surprised and I'll never I won't be surprised if they take week Willson three. I've been okay, but it would be a little bit like that's a surprise. It's a bit of a surprise unless, as yesterday, you know what we're gonna take Willis I. But anywhere else here, anywhere else Neil and Aquanu Uh, the edge players, whether it's Thibodeau or who's left at a Hutchinson and Walker. Maybe there's a surprise. But hang on a second before you go any further. Let's say it's Hutchinson and Walker. Doesn't matter what order two? One? Two? Yeah, who's if it's not an old lineman? Three? How surprised are you if it's not? Really? Not surprise? But what's the favorite position? Group position? At three? If those two guys are one and two, I think it should be a U. I felt that should be or will be not You're picking what are they gonna do? It's a great point. I mean the thing about about thinking about Nickossario history, Nick Serio with the new Engham Patriots. They ever picked us high. So it's a little different, I means, your pick. But we kind of know what Nick wants it a player. We kind of have an idea of what the profile that love he's looking for in a player. I looked ahead a little bit and I looked at the tackle class in twenty twenty three, just the potential tack class. Of course you did, and I don't. I don't love it at first glance. Now, I will tell you last year, when I looked at Okay, it's Neil, it's quota. They're at least two guys at the top of this I look at this class and go, hm, I like Connor Galvin from out of Baylor. I think he's got an opportunity to be a first round He's a heck of a player. But I don't see the kneeler a quanta that I go that guy's going top five. Okay, well that's a good point right there. So because Titus, he's not under contract forever and a Laramie who knows right, right, exactly exactly, so maybe you go get the guy now. I think there's an interesting dynamic with the third pick, though it's so high that you're thinking, well, who deserves to be the third pick? The money you make, the status, that status, stature, whatever whatever power or oomf it holds within the organization to be the third pick in the draft. I don't know if they look at it that way, because there's so many good players available. I just think, Johnny, you take the best available player. I don't want to be cliche or whoever they think can help the team, the most best available guy on the board in a position of quote need. And there are a lot of them, but do your thing, take them third move on. Nick said, don't overthink this, okay, and I and I mean, I think it's great advice. I think it's hard to follow because when you have from January till now and you're thinking about that pick. Where am I? Where are we picking? We're picking three, You're thinking about every option and consequence of going with that. Okay, who is it going to be at three? Okay, well this guy, this guy could go off board. So PF and Draft Network had those mock simulators. Whi's really cool and it's always interesting. I try to do one one a day. Last week or so, I haven't done as many, but I've tried to do at least one a day. Sometimes I've done with trade, sometimes done without trades. Sometimes I've tried to do like multiple trades, like how many trades I can do and see how much I could accumulate. One time I did one that had trades that gave me seventeen picks, which I know Nick's not gonna do. But it was always interesting at number three because what they do is they just show you the once one and two are done automatically, they show Okay, who do you want to draft? And they show you the list basically the board of how they ranked players and who's left. And it was amazing to go through that exercise and see who would be who would go one and two? And the last couple of weeks it seemed to be more consistent with Walker and Hutchinson Hutchinson Walker. Now you're sitting at three and you're staring at Stanley and Sauce Nilakanu. Those four guys seem to keep they seem to keep popping up. Is their receiver? I've heard this week Gary Wilson's name, which I would have no issue with Watchington. Isn't Wilson there at thirteen? Though I think he is. I can't remember who I was saying it this morning. Maybe it was Landry or I can't remember either. Somebody said Garrett Wilson falling to thirteen. That's about where I have him, and I think a fall is it? Yeah? I don't think. I don't think. See, I have a love as wide receiver one. I got a love one. I still love Traylon Burkes. He's two, Jamison's three, I believe, London four and then Wilson Wilson four London five like. I like London. I've always liked London. I watched this basketball tape and that's think of me now and again you get caught in this guy's too fast, this guy's too slow, He's this, he's that. Go watch him playing another sport. Yeah, watched Drake London. Watch Drake London, go do a five forty dunk? Yeah, like a jam Or Rant job breaker. Yes, yes, I mean it's it's pretty sick. So the fact that they're sitting there in three thirteen an opportunity get two elite players. I think the two questions I had going in. Number one, would Jacksonville commit to Cam Robinson beforehand? That's been answered today. Number Two, does anybody in the NFL want to put Chips all in and say we're taking a quarterback and want to come up and move up? And I don't see that happening. I really don't. I did my first mockt this high, not not this high, maybe not at all. I when I did my second mock, after just thinking it all the way through, I thought, what I trade up for Malik Willis? Would I trade up for Kenny Pickett? I would trade up for Willis? Yeah, I don't know where i'd want to do it. What I trade for Desmond Ritter and I don't know. Ritter was the first quarterback had going off the board at New Orleans. That's just the gut feeling I've had with New Orleans at nineteen. Okay, so you think you're calling your shot here that Ritter's the first QB taken. I think, well, you're not gonna be surprising one. Ritter, I go one. Yeah. I think with the quarterbacks, I think it's there's kind of a kind of a flavor of the muff, if you will. For teams, yeah, some are like vanilla, some are like chocolate. And where you go. A lot of people think Pittsburgh takes Willis and that's the one to keep an eye at thirteen. I think that's a good pick because you have Trubisky there. You can hold it down for a bit. Maybe Willis emerges right away. You could start up day one. Maybe he needs some time to mature, to ripen, whatever, and you can play Trubisky until Willis is ready. Maybe you play at Willis package. I don't know, but it doesn't force you to start Willis when you have Trubisky acquired right, it's like drafting to Shaun Watson having Tom Savage. Wait a minute, different but it lasted thirty minutes and great, it's the same, but different. You know, practice quarterback looked great practice, No he did. I know. It's really good in practice. I know. And then when he got into game against Jacksonville when we need good Yeah, but no, against Jacksonville, remember when he came in Brocket throwing three picks. He looked good in that game. Sabotage the next But here's the thing, and I confess to this, just the burning desire to have a quarterback, right, Yeah, after going through what we went through in fourteen and then fifteen, and then sixteen when Brock had that really good game against the Colts and the comeback. Yeah, I'm not gonna go into what I said that night. And then and then you're winning games with Brock somehow, but he's throwing for ninety nine yards and Jacksonville, you still win the game. And along the way, you were slowly emerging as the number one defense in the league. It's still a trouble beating out what Yeah, it was Clowney in Mercus saw Whitney last week at the Houston Sports Awards. Yeah, and we were talking about those two years, fifteen and sixteen, how the defense numbers wise, it was really good. The offense just couldn't really hold up there into the bargain to make it a more productive team. They went to the playoffs both years, but didn't get to where you want it to go. Okay, So I'm gonna tell the story now because it's five and a half years after the fact. Oh gosh, so just the locker rooms never mind, No no no, no, so no, no, no, no, not that story, not that story. Okay. So Savage comes into that game and sixteen right against the Jacksonville it's Jacksonville. Yeah, it's at home. He lights it up. I mean the place was charged up. We were charged up. Got to win this game. Yeah, we're down fourteen, I think I think when he came in, got to win it. I mean we're down. I mean, Brocket throwing three receptions is bad. Savage brings us back. It's excitement. Now We're playing Cincinnati on Christmas Eve night, correct, And the first half is a struggle, and about I don't know about halfway through the second we go to a break and all of a sudden here Drake go, hey, is this the guy y'all wanted to see? It? It was just we go to break It's quiet for zees, Hey is this the guy you all wanted to see? We're like and I'm like, you'll be quiet. He'll be fine, He'll be fine. Yeah, alphrel Blue had a good night. Had that what twenty something yard touchdown run? They won twelve to ten. Thank you Randy Bullick for missing the field goal. It was twelve to ten. Johnny Savage had one drive of four plays that was magnificent. You know, those two years, how many games did they win where the score was ridiculously low? Right, Like Bengals ten to six on the road, Colts sixteen to ten. The next year Bengals at home Christmas Eve twelve to ten to clinch the division. How many games at the end of the first quarter zero zero? Oh or three zero? We go through the first fifteen minutes like, no, nothing, you need nothing, but h you got me on a on a savvage side track here, you know, and uh and you know, you know we like Tom and everything, but that just didn't work out. Yea. And but to your point, look, Trubisky has started before he was number two overall pick. Yeah, if you have a situation in Pittsburgh's the type of team that would make sense for Malik Willis. You have now Kevin Colbert is leaving his GM, but you have Mike Tomlin there who has been there for fifteen years and think the season sixteen. There's continuity there. Tomlin is tremendous around young players. It's amazing to watch Tomlin the Senior Bowl to just he's on on the sidelines and he talks to everybody. Oh yeah, everybody, And it's not as if he's seeking them out. Now he will go over and talk to some people. Sometimes people seek him out, and it's amazing. He just sits there. You see him walk up and you can without here you can kind of see body language, and they all want to talk to him. Sure, I mean, everybody wants to talk to Tomlin. And I get the feeling his players probably feel the same way. Players want to play for him. I mean, we didn't know anything about Antonio Brown until he stopped playing for Mike Tomlin. Yeah, so who knows what tom I was putting up with. I think Pittsburgh will be a great spot for one of the quarterbacks, and the worst kept secret at the Senior Bowl was at Tomlin Steelers like willis over pick it over the hometown guy and then the ride and then pick it kind of took off and it was like, WHOA, I don't know if Pitts we're gonna get there. I think Pittsburgh would be a prime spot for number thirteen. I mentioned Jim Trotter. He had a tweet today, I want to bounce off you next because I think that's the way I've been thinking. I would trade both. 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NFL Draft twenty twenty two. What's been your favorite draft to cover? I know I have one. You have one? Remember a draft to cover? This is a great question, Johnny, What has been my favorite draft? I think I liked Um, I might have liked fifteen or sixteen. I thought those were fun because that was your second or third year with us and we were kind of hitting the groove, you know, the first year, so you Texans. Well, I had the schedules organized and I was like, well, we can't put Johnny on the whole day on Saturday. It's eight hours. So said the first four hours, it gets a break, you know, I don't want to wear them out. But Johnny's sitting right there, I'm talking about you in the third person right now, sitting right there, like like just wanted to get in the game. Ended up putting on the headset a bunch anyway, just chiming in because whoever was on doesn't know what you know. Nobody does. So I mean, you're doing the draft without having to look stuff up. Once we get passed round one, I'm looking up everything, like I'm googling. The names are familiar, but you want to get you know, just be sure, and I mean just too many players. You know them all and it's fun. Rarely have you had to sort of look. There was one Texans player, gosh blanket out on the name, drafted in the six or seven three like Kelly No Client. Oh yeah, Shot Client, Yeah from USF. Yeah I hadn't. I had known of him, but I really didn't do much work on him. Yeah that was like the six or seventh round. Yeah, I was not paying attention to Shot. Clid was like, yeah, I mean I've seen USF play, but I was not paying too much attention. Unfortunately, he runs down a kickoff and gets hurt. Mine would be the first year, twenty fourteen doing the draft party that night and clowning gets drafted. It was. It was awesome. It was experiencing the Texans from a different lens. Yeah for me and we've been doing it. Being up being up there with you was it was really cool. The other one is probably the COVID year, even though we weren't all together watching how everything came together, because what I remember about that entire time was well, they can't have a draft, they can't do this. There's no way, they can't have free agency, they can't do this, like all these different things that the general public was saying, you can't do, you can't do, you can't do that, And all of sudden, the NFL I was like, no, we're gonna do it, and here's how we're gonna do it, and then pulled it off and it was awesome. It was intimate. It in people's homes, the coach's homes, Telichick's dog, Goodell's basement. We are interviewing players on zoom so we could see them and traditionally it's always audio only, and it was just different. It felt more together. Ironically, it felt more together than ever it was. It was totally bizarre and yet really cool. I mean, obviously the fun part of the drafts being on the air. But then we go to break and we're like, oh, okay, that was a that trade. This all the things that go on behind the scenes, I love. But now we're doing it through COVID and I'm sitting there. I don't even know if I have shoes on or socks. I don't even I mean, I know I had a shirt on at that point. I don't know what else, but all they could see us on zoom we were doing an audio. But that also was the year that and I brought this up with him the other day. So I'm in the building, John Grenard, and you asked me, who would you like to see? Who do you think at number nine? At number ninety? And I said, why, I love this guy from Florida, John Grenard. I there's something there. And we had gone down to Galveston for spring break and I brought my surface and I had him on my list of players to watch it. So I picked out the Missouri game and he goes off and I'm like, I want him. I want this guy right here from Florida. And not two weeks later, there's an popped up on YouTube SEC Network segment and he did it with John Stinchcombe I think it was. Yeah, it was either Matt or John one or the other and talking about pass rushing and you could just I didn't even hear it. You can just see his hands away, he's moving his hands and said, oh, that's what he's what. They went on for about seven or eight minutes. I'm like, wow, I want this guy. And so when you asked me him, like that's the guy want I want him. And then they take him and they take him and I told him that story. He goes, yeah, yeah, I knew that, but I didn't know the full I didn't know the full story. So so it was pretty cool that. And I actually had interviewed him down at the Senior Bowl too before that, before COVID hit. That's pretty cool. I got to interview him because I was going down there interview and thinking, we're gonna dropt an edge player. We gotta have some edge we gotta have some pass rushers. So I interviewed everyone, Daryl Taylor, Josh Uch Gernard, there's a couple others in there that I interviewed, like almost all of them, And so there's somewhere there's a John Grenard Senior Bowl interview somewhere in our somewhere in our ether world that's an all time or it's there, that's right up there with Dak Prescott, who you talked to as well, and who did a social media post for us. I said he wanted to come play for the Texas. Yeah, Dak Prescott said that to find the Senior Bowl. Well, here's what Jim Trotter said to say. He's at NRG Stadium this week. He is, he is in the pocket at an Energy Stadium. He said this today. He tweeted this earlier this afternoon. I happened to be in the movie truck as I was listening. I think Landry and John brought it up. What are the chances Houston uses both the third and thirteen picks? Jim nick Casserio tells me there's a ninety nine percent chance at three and a maybe fifty to sixty chants at thirteen. Has talked to sixty eight teams as part of due diligence, open to going up as well as down, depending up players still available from their board. And I heard that. I thought that jobs, with everything that we have been talking about lately, that if you could get a trade for three. It's pretty much a slam. Do you take it because you're gonna get seconds, third force this year in future years, you take it. I pick one of these. I'll give you three things that could happen, and none of them are thirteen remains at thirteen. One of them is you move up from thirteen somehow there's a player you like to get him in the top ten, and you're gonna give up whatever you give up. You move down from thirteen to wherever you're gonna go, teams, whatever, or you moved back into the first round late, so you've picked it three and thirteen, and you want to sneak back into the first round late Thursday night, and you spend whatever you spend to do that to move up from thirty seven. And right now, Jonathan Joseph is supposed to announce thirty seven, Oh yeah, all right in the second round of Friday night. And I hope he gets to do that. But if you trade that pick, he won't. So yeah, probably something like that. So which one of those three? Pick one? Now you know, I'm not typically a trade up guy. I am almost I'm almost never a trade up guy. I have a hard time believing they had trade up from thirteen. They must love the player if if a player starts to fall. I said this the other day, but players starts the fall that you think supposed to go top five? Who is gonna totally shock you to fall? Other than Hutchinson? I think one of the linemen O'Neil. Okay, somebody who's just not enamored for whatever reason. All right, so somebody takes cross over one of those guys because hey, we like him better. Oh true, tackle who's the corner from Washington. I'm blanking Tran McDuffie. You know who he is in this draft. He's Kareem Jackson. Baby. The other day, the way Kareem jumped in front of Kyle Wilson, all right in two thousand and ten and a lot of people thought Wilson was gonna go ahead of Kareem, and we were talking about Wilson or McCardy and all of a sudden, the Texans have the picket. It's Kareem. But now that was later in the first round. I get it. McDuffie is gonna jump one of those guys that. It's so funny you say, because I used the exact same comp the other day. McDuffie is Kareem Jackson. Absolutely is Kareem Jackson. And if people can get beyond what happened to him as a rookie and look at what he did from eleven through the rest of his career in Houston, would you take that at thirteen? Hell yeah, I would. If they call his name Trent mcduffe, if they sit tight at thirteen and like mcduffy's our guy and they took him, I would love it. I would love it. He is exactly what they want to because he's not I shouldn't say exactly from a football playing standpoint. He's what they'll like. He's not from a sightweight size standpoint. I mean, Sauce is six three, Stingley six foot and a half. I think McDuffie's five ten five eleven, so he's short, but he's like Kareem in that way. Kream. I remember seeing one time Kaream they've listened Cream at six one. I was like six one. I was like, I've talked to Kream a million times and I'm looking I'm looking down at him and I'm six foot. I have never been a trade up guy, but I have a feeling just given the needs of this team, which, as you said, there there are few, there's gonna be a player that falls down to number ten or eleven that you're going, Hey, whoa. We thought this guy was gonna be top five, no question we were. We thought for sure Sauce was gonna be top five. We thought Stingley was gonna be top five, We thought Neil was gonna be top five. And all of a sudden they're sitting there at ten or eleven. What does it cost you though? That's yeah, and that's why I said ten or eleven. I don't I'm not spending a one on that. No, no, no, no, I think a two or or maybe a three this year one, Uh, you're three one of your threes? Oh, I'd give a one of my threes, and there were three and maybe, uh, I don't want to give up my three and a three. Next you're gonna get thirteen. Wait, what are we getting from the Browns and the Sean deal? Four next year or three next year? I thought it was a three next it's the three next year and at fourth the following year. So so you got the Browns fourth this year, the Browns third next year. Yeah, So give him, give him the Saints third number eighty, and then give him the third next year. See if you can pull it off, move up to they'd want to do that, Okay, So all right, so they need more. They're gonna want the two said, that's never been my option. But if I'm sitting there looking at a guy and I'm thinking, WHOA, I did not think he was gonna be here at ten or eleven, maybe you end up doing it. Maybe teams started to pass on Stingy because because he hasn't played in a while and they're just not man, I might I'd do that. I do sting I'd take Stingley at three. You would. I'd love these two corners, I mean the two corners. Or they're gonna take a lot of heat for taking Stingley at three. But I get it in the sense that on paper, hey, he hasn't played well or played a lot, since that's gonna be that's gonna be a narrative. But you're right, it's it's all a narrative like that. You could come up with positives and negatives on anybody the art. They're gonna go down three, there's no doubt. And I mean a Quanto seems solid. Neil seems super solid. Walker seems hey, Walker is gonna get some some gruff here. It's gonna be well, he doesn't really get sacks, is he is? He gonna make it plays. See, here's here's where hot he sacks did what have in college? The senior year he had I think he got the double figures. Okay, I think he got the double figures the senior year, but no one believed it would be this outstanding NFL nas rusher. They thought he's just gonna be a really solid d lineman. Here's where we're doing toron Walker at his service, And I say we the collective draft, Yeah yeah, Twitterati and analysts and whatever. They keep a friend Tom Walker as an edge player, like, he's not an edge player, he's a defensive lineman. To talk to Sean and Seth about this this morning. He's not a he's not an edge player. He's an inside outside guy. And that's you know how DeMarcus Walker was used last year. That's how Treyvon Walker can be used. But Treyvon's got more explosive assets, He's got more twitch, and you can bounce him inside. You get him against the guard. Wold. But everybody keeps talking about him as an edge rusher, And so as soon as you say edge rusher, what gets in your head? Yeah, strip sacks? You know how many times he's not gonna ball away all that kind of stuff if he's part of a ferocious front flour for Lovey Smith, Right, fine, right, but he's not dropping to the Texans according to the mocks. But I remember I remember talking to I think it was Nathan Zigirl, who was a silent reporter basically me in Cleveland, and we're talking about Miles, Miles Garrett and Mons has had a tremendous career. I mean he's had a really good career. Well, Miles has coming out of a m and he gets drafted number one of for all, that changes everything because everybody in Cleveland wants him to have thirty sacks a year and win five five Super Bowls in the first two years, and the expectations were so high. Miles was reaching the expectation the team set out, but the fans oh number one overall. That's why there's a part of me not that I want this to happen to Traymon Walker, because I think he's a good guy. I think he's a really good football player. But Traymon Walker goes number one, he's gonna be set up for failure because of that, because fans are gonna expect him to be a fourteen fifteen sack of Year guy, and that's not who he is. But Johnny, why is he a number one pick overall prospect? Because he's six five, he's two seventy two, he runs in the four to five range. He's got every elite asset you want in a defensive linement. He's violent, he can move, you're not. So I'm one hand. We're saying, hey, don't worry about lack of sacks in college and things like that, but in the NFL, will they be there or will be more like a TfL that he's clowny because he's out on the edge necessarily like the way clown He was right, But but Clowney suffered from the expectation of night. He's got to get sacks exactly. Mario Williams got a lot more sacks than Cloudy. Cloudy suffered from that. But when you looked within, he's a disruptor. He's making TFLs, he's stopping the run, he's doing things like that. Is that way you're seeking from Walker, and actually a different kind of play right right with Walker, I think you can go three all the way out to nine. Three technique all the way out to nine. He could play over the three. He's strong enough to hold up against guards. Not every single play, but in run plays at times against guards, he's gonna be able to hold up. He's got strength, he's got length. He can do that when he rushes and when he passed rushes against the guard, he's beating him with counter moves. He's quick and he's strong enough to handle you know, quick sets and things like that. Then he bumps out four I five going against the tackle. He's quick enough to win off the edge, although I don't think that's the thing he does best. Then you can bump him all the way out to nine, and he can play like an outside linebacker. So he can do all those things, which there aren't very many people that can do it. But if you're expecting him, like you said, to be an edge rusher, like just go sack a quarterback, that's not gonna be his cup of tea, like Clowney, And that hurt Clowney here because everyone's like, well, he should be getting ten sacks a year, and who knows what happened. You know, JD had the injuries the first couple of years. Maybe that took away some of it. But the one thing about JD, and I haven't seen this with treyvonn yet, Trayvon just does everything really well. Clowney could take over games. We saw it. I mean he could take over a game and dominated Philly and twenty eighteen dominant. Now the next two weeks may not show up to play. Maybe an issue. What last year at Wisconsin seven sacks one pick man? About that tackles for a loss? Wait a minute, Yeah, that's a pretty good is twenty one sound? I knew there was a big number in there for Okay, I wasn't sure. I didn't think it was sacks sacks. I had like twelve twenty one TFLs for what? And then is what a decent comparison for what? Yeah? I think so, I think Wat's a little bigger. I think Walker's a little bit uh faster and a little bit leaner. But maybe statistically or just the whole complexion of us and how he's used on JJ played on the edge. If I remember right at Wisconsin. JJ played on the edge of the time if I remember correctly, but he was doing at two ninety or whatever. He was buzz cut buzz cut JJ a long time ago. Oh boy, All right, draft is coming up tomorrow. We're gonna go official next. Who we think we'll be at number three and we'll discuss thirteen. That's a little bit too hard to figure out, but we'll put it on Wax who was at number three. That's next. The Texans All Access More Texans Radio is on the way. What destinations are on your financial checklist? A new home, a new savings account, whatever it may be. TDECU offers better ways to save and do more with your money. Join TDECU, the Official credit Union of the Houston Texans. 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They gave that pick up and they picked up one seventy So too soon to draft DJ Perry in the fifth round. Got it? Yeah? Maybe maybe undrafted free agent. Maybe now he'll get drafted. He'll get your will, Yes, Okay, he'll get you. He'll get d John Perry's son, by the way, former Texans wide receivers coach. No, not son, nephew, Oh, nephew, that's right, Yeah, he's yeah. Their Perrys all over the place. Wait but his son played at Clements, right, yes, his son, Yes, John played at Clements Okay, now is that Merrimack were really Yeah where I think John coach for a while, So yeah, he's up there, all right, my random or John Harris. He ye, we're running out of time all access and it's time to give your number three pick. But before you do that, I say something this morning. I want to hit your thoughts because I don't have anything wrong with it, but I do think it's interesting and I'm curious. Jemmy Johnson we've seen pop up here on the ESPN defensive and Florida State. He's an outstanding player. But Seth, I'm saying today that his dad shows up at every practice. So you know, rout your car, Roger Car, we miss you. So I ask you a question disruptive, like what was it like when Roger was around? When David Is played a quarterback? You know, I think it wasn't as disruptive until they started to lose badly in two thousand and five, and then it became this major issue and dom Capers had to ban all visitors from practice, which was a complete swing of the pendulum. Instead, I mean, I suppose he could have said listen only once every couple of weeks with permission in. Of course, you want to occasionally have a guest. Kubiak used to have some guests every once in a while, or you know, a former coach friend, or whoever it might be. You never know who's going to show up or who wants to observe practice. As long as it's not a parade, it's fine. Yeah. But as far as Jermaine Johnson's dad, you know, Seth said, this is not like Todd Marinovitch's dad. Maybe Sean who dropped that one, or I don't even know if they dropped the Roger Carr name. When I was listening to this, but they I would think that love. He would say, listen, yeah, every once in a while, fine, but not every practice. This is the NFL, baby, they don't do that here. You know, I would doubt that would be happening with an NFL team, but you never know, it happened here once upon a time. The other thing about Roger Carr's David Carr's dad was, I believe this could be urban legend because I don't remember specifically that every once in a while, like they'd stay late. He'd talked to his dad and his brother, Darren, who actually played at university who used him for a little bit. Did he give him a ride back to the building every once in a while. I don't know if he did that or not. But anyway, and the cars are one people. I mean, I love the cars, but I think I thought that was you know, maybe yeah, you'd have to talk to the players as to whether it was a distraction. Great question for Seth. I don't know Number three picked. Tomorrow night, we're sitting there. Walker goes first to Jacksonville Detroit says, we've got to have Hutchinson go blue. Picking number three? Is I predict it will be a quantum at that point? That's my prediction. You know, I don't know who I would draft because I don't have all the information they have. I always say this, they have access to information that you don't have, folks, and they'll make the best decision. They know. How that doesn't always mean they're gonna make the right decision, because otherwise everybody would be hitting home runs in this NFL draft thing. There wouldn't be guys dropping into round two that turn into Pro Bowlers, Round three, four, whatever. David buck tr was what a fourth round draft choice? Right redraft? That one redraft last year, where's Roy Lopez going in a redraft of two thousand one? He won second round, you know something like that. And of course, wow, definitely a lot earlier than he went a lot earlier. Yeah, a lot earlier. Okay, we don't have to talk about that right now. That's your prediction. That's well, that's an interesting piece you bring up because Jacksonville wouldn't take him, But would what Detroit have if Davis Spills went back for twenty twenty one to Stanford have the year that I expected A sat right in his seat and said, look, if this guy was coming out next year, you'd be a first round or do you have a full year owner's belt? Stanford get back to some sort of normal sey in twenty twenty one. He would be a top quarterback in the draft. In fact, he would be the top quarterback. Would Detroit take him at number two or would he used to be taking him at number three? I'll worry about that because it took him last year. I'm with you, has felt like the guy for a long time. To me, a long time. I'm not talking about weeks, months, maybe even a year. It's been a while since I'm like that guy, and I don't care. He's eventually gonna play tackle. He's eventually going to play tackle. Now it's all different because the Saints picked Anders Pete and number thirteen as opposed to taking guy at number three. But I'm just Pete was taking to be a left tackle and he's played guard his entire career with the Saints, So you never know. So you never know if you end up taking a guard. I mean, look at Wade Smith. Wade Smith played tackle, guard center. Say a quarter goes to four Pro Bowls as a guard and you're drafted a number three, will you have felt I know, just using that, it's a metric. You don't know how everything else goes. Would you imagine a guy goes to four Pro Bowls as a guard number three year and feel like, yeah, I'm at home? Wrong with that? Right? Are you kidding? Offensive lineman going to the Pro Bowl? Yeah? Hinch me, Yes, let's go. I will take it tomorrow night. Right here, we'll be well, we'll have Texas All Access from six to seven tomorrow night. DBC will run that. We will take over at seven pm. Right here, We'll take you through the end of the first Round'll be here all weekend. Friday night, Seth will join us. Saturday, Clint and Sean will join me, and then Mark will coming in from the last half. What nikiss love Smith, what players don't what? Everything you'll want right here on Texans Radio. Mark appreciate. It's good to see your game, Johnny Chris, nice job, my friend. We will see you. Tomar It's draft time. Have your final one night draft. Sleep everybody and go Texans. This is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten. You can feel it right now, you can hear it. It's all around you. It's the air we share. As the world's number one air conditioning company, Dyken is committed to perfecting the year that connects us all where we work, where we play, and where we grow. 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