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00:02:37.360Good afternoon, Tech Time listeners.
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00:02:40.960Our lead story today comes straight from the heart of the AI world.
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00:02:58.800OpenAI's chief scientist, Jacob Pochoki, says the global race to build smarter and more autonomous AI systems has gone too far, too fast, and no one is prepared for the consequences.
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00:03:00.960That's right.
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00:03:08.719Well, he he kinda, you know, when OpenAI's chief scientist comes on out, it gets a little scary.
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00:03:12.960But let's now go more for Jennifer Merrick on this story.
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00:03:28.400OpenAI's chief scientist, Jacob Pachoki, says the global race to build smarter and more autonomous AI systems has gone too far too fast, and that no one is prepared for the consequences.
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00:03:38.080Just days after OpenAI rolled out its new enterprise model GPT, Six Astra, Pachoki published a striking message on the company's website.
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00:03:49.360In it, he argues that AI development should slow down across the entire industry, not just at OpenAI, because machine intelligence is beginning to outpace human understanding.
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00:03:59.120Pachoki says today's AI systems present clear new dangers to computer security, especially as open AI experiments with recursive self-improvement.
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00:04:02.639That's where an AI helps design the next version of itself.
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00:04:09.840He says, without human oversight, we are in trouble, and a race between open AI and anthropic will cause a problem.
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00:04:11.680Now back to the studio.
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00:04:16.399That could never happen.
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00:04:20.000Well, according to Pachoki, the world has two real options.
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00:04:30.319One, strengthen alignment and keep humans tightly in the loop, or coordinate globally to slow development until safety measures catch up.
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00:04:31.040Yeah, yeah.
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00:04:32.480You know what?
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00:04:34.160You know what we do with warnings?
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00:04:34.879What is that?
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00:04:36.000We do.
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00:04:38.720You know, you see a warning on something.
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00:04:39.360Don't do this.
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00:04:40.160And you know what?
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00:04:44.000The first thing that triggers that human emotion is, what if I did do that, right?
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00:04:45.680I mean, that's kind of a I don't know.
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00:04:48.000He's not the only one that's freaked out this week.
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00:04:49.439No, there's there's a bunch of other people.
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00:04:54.800There's a bunch of them that are saying that you know AI is going to exterminate us.
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00:04:56.319Yeah, it's interesting.
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00:04:57.439And here's the problem.
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00:04:59.040You have two companies, right?
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00:05:00.800You have anthropic and open AI.
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00:05:05.839And then Google tries to pretend like they're in this space, and so does uh grok, but they're really not.
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00:05:10.639So you really have anthropic and open AI racing against each other, and they both want to be the best.
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00:05:18.959So what they do is they keep on releasing better and better and better models, and where they're not putting safeguards because they don't want to be the one that's behind, right?
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00:05:25.439The new GPT Astra is better than any of the Claude stuff that I've used.
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00:05:34.800It is it is just amazing, and it understands when you type in sentences, it actually has the logic and reasoning that it comes up with.
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00:05:55.600And some of the stuff that they come up with is just like amazing, and you're like, Oh, that I didn't think about that, I didn't think about that.
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00:06:03.839So the conclusion this is the dangerous version of Alexa continuing to ask me questions after I just asked for something.
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00:06:05.120Yeah, yeah, right?
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00:06:12.160Because you ask Alexa something or or your AI something, you say, Hey, where's what what time is this store open?
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00:06:22.560And it'll tell you the operating hours, and then they always, every single time, do you want to know more about this location or where what you can find here?
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00:06:27.199Yeah, so they keep on asking, and then if you say yes, then it'll tell you a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit.
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00:06:32.639I have yelled and screamed and hollered and tried to get them to stop that, but they won't do it.
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00:06:36.720His conclusion is that we need both.
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00:06:44.800We need to have them immediately, otherwise, so he put this out on the company's internal webpage that that we're in danger.
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00:06:46.800I don't know how he still has a job, but whatever.
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00:06:49.199Okay, I guess he's I guess he's still employed there.
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00:06:52.319So he decided to warn everybody at the company.
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00:06:55.120Um Are they really gonna fire this guy?
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00:06:57.120Hey guys, Skynet's coming along.
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00:07:01.360Yeah, he's like, oh, you're fired.
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00:07:03.600Okay, I'll just go over to Anthropic.
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00:07:04.720I'm sure they'll hire me.
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00:07:06.720And then the Anthropic will hire the other people.
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00:07:07.519It's interesting.
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00:07:17.519This is all the fallout from the hugging face breach that we talked about three weeks ago on the show, uh, where AI systems were kind of breaching other AI systems.
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00:07:24.959But the big question now is whether the rest of the industry will listen with companies racing toward the agents and self-improving systems.
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00:07:34.319Is the coordinated slowdown gonna happen or are they gonna continue to have their fast paced process so that they can be the leader and dominant?
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00:07:36.639I'm suddenly getting a prophecy here.
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00:07:38.399Nothing's gonna change, they're gonna continue.
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00:07:40.160You know why?
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00:07:45.120Because IPOs are coming on out and they need to be worth money and they don't want to be out of business.
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00:07:48.639That's why people are stupid.
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00:07:51.360Yeah, I think you're gonna say that more than once in today's show.
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00:07:53.120I say it all the time.
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00:07:56.000I I got a funny feeling that maybe people are stupid.
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00:08:00.399But now hang on, but you're listening to us people, so you are not stupid people.
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00:08:03.120It's everybody else are stupid people, right?
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00:08:05.360The AI industry people.
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00:08:07.040I think that's what Mike's saying.
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00:08:07.759All right.
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00:08:12.639Well, we're we're we hey, yeah, we all make dumb mistakes every day.
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00:08:13.199We do.
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00:08:14.079All of us do.
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00:08:14.879We do.
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00:08:19.040And when money is the goal, it just makes it.
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00:08:20.480You're gonna make a whole lot of money.
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00:08:22.560Well, you know what?
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00:08:24.000Let's go to story number two.
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00:08:28.160Well, I have something that has nothing to do with AI.
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00:08:30.319That's you must be excited, isn't it?
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00:08:32.559Okay, well, what do you have?
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00:08:36.399Scientists discover a new form of ice.
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00:08:36.799What?
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00:08:41.440Have you ever heard have you ever heard of that?
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00:08:42.399No, I've never heard of this.
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00:08:46.159All right, so I you know, we go to the ice box.
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00:08:51.360What we used to call the ice box, the refrigerator, the the freezer.
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00:08:54.080Most of us think that ice is something cold.
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00:09:02.960The scientists have now created a new form of ice at temperatures above 2300 degrees Celsius, which is hotter than lava.
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00:09:04.879Okay, so hotter than lava.
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00:09:13.039So uh I I thought there was only like three states of in in in my biology classes, and there's solids, liquids, that's some that's some old stuff there, buddy.
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00:09:15.759That's just in basic science.
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00:09:18.960Okay, so you just answered your own question.
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00:09:19.759All right, okay.
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00:09:20.639What do we got going on here?
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00:09:22.080Because I'm wrong.
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00:09:24.480P O S.
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00:09:25.360People are stupid.
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00:09:30.159The secret uh behind this is pressure.
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00:09:40.000So reacher researchers squeezed tiny water samples between diamonds at pressures more than two million times the Earth's atmosphere and heated them with lasers.
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00:09:42.799What?
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00:09:46.639So they had lasers shooting into this thing.
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00:09:52.799What?
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00:09:53.600Who thinks of that?
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00:09:54.480Okay, continuing on.
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00:09:56.000Okay, hey, let me get the lasers.
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00:09:57.039Let's aim it at that today.
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00:09:58.159Okay, that sounds great.
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00:09:59.519What happens?
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00:10:01.519No tactical pandas there.
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00:10:08.080Instead of uh turning into gas, the water forms an exotic material called superionic ice.
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00:10:11.360This strange state is part solid and part liquid.
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00:10:17.919The oxygen atoms stay locked in place like a crystal while the hydrogen atoms move freely through the structure.
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00:10:28.480In the new study, scientists have discovered a previously unconfirmed version of superionic ice called hexagonal close packed or HCP ice.
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00:10:33.200As pressure and temperature increases, this new structure becomes a dominant form.
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00:10:42.960Now this matters because scientists believe that superionic ice may exist deep inside Uranus.
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00:10:45.279And Neptune.
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00:10:46.240Oh, okay, the planets.
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00:10:56.879Understanding this new version of ice could help explain the unusual magnetic fields that people that are recorded from those distant planets.
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00:11:08.799Now, why this while this sounds impossible, researchers have shown that under extreme conditions, water can become a form of ice that's hotter than love and may hold clues to the mysteries of our solar system.
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00:11:12.720Okay, maybe that's what happened with on Mars, huh?
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00:11:19.279Deep underneath there, maybe there's some that that's at the core of okay.
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00:11:19.840I don't know.
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00:11:22.960There's plenty of movies out there that can tell you what happened on Mars here.
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00:11:25.519What was that?
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00:11:27.440Does he play a sound effect?
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00:11:28.399Uh no, no, nothing.
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00:11:29.200Anyway, moving on.
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00:11:30.399Okay, I don't care.
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00:11:31.039All right.
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00:11:32.320Story number three.
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00:11:36.559NVIDIA's 10 billion AI bet signals where the industry is headed.
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00:11:37.120Here we go.
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00:11:46.320How big is the AI race getting while NVIDIA may be about to write a check that's larger than Europe's biggest tech funding round ever.
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00:11:56.480According to reports that we've received, NVIDIA is in talks to invest up to 10 billion in the AI company Anthropics upcoming IPO.
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00:12:10.320If the deal happens, it would help support a public offering aimed at raising as much as a hundred billion at a nearly two trillion of evaluation, potentially making this the largest IPO in history.
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00:12:12.799What's especially interesting is the timing.
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00:12:22.480Just days earlier, NVIDIA participated in Mistrolls, AI's record-setting$3 billion funding round, the largest ever raised by a European technology company.
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00:12:27.679Yet the amount NVIDIA is considering phantropic alone could exceed that entire round itself.
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00:12:32.240The move highlights NVIDIA's growing influence across the AI ecosystem.
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00:12:34.960The company just doesn't supply chips anymore.
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00:12:38.399It reinvests back into the companies that are buying those chips.
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00:12:40.240So this is such an interesting deal.
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00:12:45.120NVIDIA sells the chips for AI and then they reinvest into the AI company.
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00:12:47.519They sell the chips and reinvest the AI company.
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00:12:51.360So it's it's like a circular promotion of profit.
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00:12:59.279Yeah, look, so NVIDIA is going to end up creating you know they're gonna be an exterminating us.
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00:13:08.639See how money works?
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00:13:14.799So NVIDIA is gonna For the love of money, open AI has not been invested by NVIDIA yet.
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00:13:25.279As soon as NVIDIA decides to invest into OpenAI, then that we'll have the three largest AI companies that buy processors from them reinvesting into the companies itself.
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00:13:32.559So every single time they go out to NVIDIA and buy another processor, NVIDIA then just reinvests into that AI company and owns more and more.
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00:13:42.639Soon NVIDIA making the chips for the company with this process could be the global dominant owner of all three AI companies.
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00:13:46.159Okay, they can sell them the chips, they can stuff it.
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00:13:47.840So they invest it, right?
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00:14:00.080So they sell them the chips, they invest into these companies, they then control the market because they put their chips in these companies, these companies have to buy it from them, and they continue to reinvest.
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00:14:03.360It looks like an AR AI arms race acceleration.
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00:14:04.879Nvidia is just there.
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00:14:10.960Picking up the shovel and taking stakes to the miners gold that's available.
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00:14:20.879I I sincerely want to thank NVIDIA for all that it's doing because I went I went online to check out prices for new laptops.
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00:14:21.200Yeah.
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00:14:23.279Double the price of what they used to be.
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00:14:24.080Yes, they are.
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00:14:25.519They are it's you thank you, NVIDIA.
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00:14:35.360If you buy a PlayStation 5 or if you buy an Xbox Series X, now they're$700 to$900.
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00:14:37.200I bought mine for$4.99.
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00:14:39.039Same hardware inside of there.
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00:14:41.200It's just the inflation of the chips.
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00:14:41.759Yep.
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00:14:48.399Pretty soon, pretty soon I'm just gonna go offline and then I'm not going to have any truck with AI at all.
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00:14:51.759I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go out and live in the woods and all the stuff.
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00:14:52.960You're not gonna do that though.
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00:14:56.240You're you're Alexa a girlfriend who would wouldn't handle that.
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00:14:57.600You you need to have her to talk to you.
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00:14:59.279Yeah, I hate Alexa.
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00:14:59.919I hate it.
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00:15:01.120I hate it.
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00:15:02.960But you talk to her all the time.
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00:15:08.240I I have it on so that I can get things, but I hate I hate it.
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00:15:13.360I just have yeah, this is and this is the masochism of living in the modern age.
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00:15:15.679It sounds like a great relationship.
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00:15:16.080Yeah.
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00:15:16.879I have to have it.
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00:15:17.360I hate it.
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00:15:19.279I have to have it, I hate it, I have to have it.
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00:15:19.679All right.
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00:15:21.519Well that and you're the second one.
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00:15:22.080I yell at it.
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00:15:23.200I yell at it more times.
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00:15:27.120I think that's maybe that makes me feel good about being a person that lives alone.
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00:15:27.840You know, okay.
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00:15:30.000I have I have somebody to yell at.
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00:15:30.639Yes.
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00:15:31.360Okay.
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00:15:34.159Well, uh, you can always get married again.
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00:15:36.639Uh that ends our top technology stories of the week.
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00:15:42.559Next, we're gonna dive into our letter segment featuring scams submitted by listeners and some studio selected emails.
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00:16:51.519All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum.
00:16:51.600 -->
00:16:54.960Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda.
00:16:55.120 -->
00:16:58.639We verify the facts and we do with a sense of humor in less than 60 minutes.
00:16:58.720 -->
00:16:59.919Of course, a little whiskey on the side.
00:17:00.000 -->
00:17:03.519Today, Mark Gregoire, a whiskey connoisseur, is not in the studio.
00:17:03.679 -->
00:17:06.400Uh he's not in the studio.
00:17:06.559 -->
00:17:11.440When we get him in the studio, that will be like a uh like uh unique experience.
00:17:11.599 -->
00:17:12.880He is somewhere else now.
00:17:13.200 -->
00:17:16.240Last time we checked with him, uh he was in California.
00:17:16.400 -->
00:17:18.400Now where's Waldo situation?
00:17:18.480 -->
00:17:18.799Yeah, I know.
00:17:18.880 -->
00:17:20.480Where's where's Mark today?
00:17:20.799 -->
00:17:24.640I'm in uh like central eastern Washington, Lake Shillan.
00:17:24.799 -->
00:17:25.519Okay, all right.
00:17:25.599 -->
00:17:27.680Well, welcome to that where you were last week.
00:17:27.839 -->
00:17:29.279No, he was in California last week.
00:17:29.440 -->
00:17:30.960Oh, in Southern California last week.
00:17:31.119 -->
00:17:31.440That's right.
00:17:31.680 -->
00:17:32.880It was right next to weed last week.
00:17:33.039 -->
00:17:33.279That's right.
00:17:33.519 -->
00:17:33.839Remember that?
00:17:33.920 -->
00:17:34.559Remember that weed?
00:17:34.799 -->
00:17:35.279That's right.
00:17:35.599 -->
00:17:36.400It wasn't near weed.
00:17:36.640 -->
00:17:38.000Weed's in northern California.
00:17:38.079 -->
00:17:40.160I just mentioned right next to the mountain.
00:17:40.720 -->
00:17:42.319You can tell where Peyton's mind went.
00:17:43.039 -->
00:17:44.240I'll remember last week.
00:17:44.640 -->
00:17:45.759Something you want to tell us there?
00:17:46.160 -->
00:17:46.400No.
00:17:46.880 -->
00:17:50.079I think Peyton has been sipping a little bit too much of the whiskey today.
00:17:50.319 -->
00:17:53.119Uh I don't think sipping is what he's been doing.
00:17:53.279 -->
00:17:55.759All right, Mark, what have you chosen for us today?
00:17:56.079 -->
00:17:59.920Today you guys are drinking Penelope Project X.
00:18:01.119 -->
00:18:11.440Now, from Penelope Bourbon's website, Project X is their experimental barrel pick program described as a chance to experience the future of bourbon.
00:18:11.599 -->
00:18:22.160This particular selection takes straight bourbon and finishes it in an authentic vintage 1964 cognac barrel from a region in France.
00:18:23.039 -->
00:18:34.240Penelope does not publish tasty notes for this specific barrel, but descriptions of it highlight states, ripe plum, black cherry, and warming baking spices.
00:18:35.599 -->
00:18:41.119This is from uh Penelope Penelope, which is owned by MGP Ingredients.
00:18:41.279 -->
00:18:44.640It's a Ross and Squibb distillery in Lawrenceburg, Indiana.
00:18:44.880 -->
00:18:52.160Straight bourbon finish and cognac barrel, non-age stated, 111 proof, mashville's undisclosed, and it is$65.
00:18:53.279 -->
00:18:55.599I actually really, really like it.
00:18:56.559 -->
00:18:58.559I I I I I like it a lot.
00:18:58.799 -->
00:18:59.119What?
00:18:59.359 -->
00:19:00.880What's the flavor supposed to be?
00:19:01.039 -->
00:19:03.279I say I I taste the black cherry or the cherry.
00:19:03.359 -->
00:19:07.200I don't know if it's a black cherry, but I taste a cherry pretty predominant in there.
00:19:07.440 -->
00:19:10.400You don't you like this, but you don't like wine bourbon.
00:19:10.559 -->
00:19:11.680I do not like wine bourbon.
00:19:11.920 -->
00:19:13.359So but this is cognac.
00:19:13.440 -->
00:19:15.599So cognac is a little different, right?
00:19:16.079 -->
00:19:17.200It's a little fancier.
00:19:17.359 -->
00:19:17.680Yeah.
00:19:18.240 -->
00:19:19.519Put that pinky out.
00:19:20.079 -->
00:19:22.079Is that how you're should I be drinking it like this?
00:19:22.160 -->
00:19:23.440Is that what I should be doing?
00:19:23.680 -->
00:19:23.839Oh.
00:19:24.480 -->
00:19:25.119And then this.
00:19:26.240 -->
00:19:29.759Oh, that's a little that's a little super spy.
00:19:31.119 -->
00:19:32.160A million dollars.
00:19:32.400 -->
00:19:34.000Well, I'm glad you're enjoying it.
00:19:37.039 -->
00:19:37.359All right.
00:19:37.440 -->
00:19:39.519Do you like this type of whiskey, Mark?
00:19:40.160 -->
00:19:41.599Um I like this one.
00:19:41.839 -->
00:19:42.079You do?
00:19:42.319 -->
00:19:42.720Oh, okay.
00:19:42.799 -->
00:19:43.039There you go.
00:19:43.279 -->
00:19:43.839Yeah, I kind of like it.
00:19:44.720 -->
00:19:45.359I do too.
00:19:45.599 -->
00:19:46.160All right.
00:19:46.400 -->
00:19:47.359Okay, well, you know what?
00:19:47.440 -->
00:19:53.440We gotta Yeah, you you almost I'll give a little hint about what I'm gonna talk about in the mumbles, but you almost didn't get any of the bottle.
00:19:53.680 -->
00:19:55.680I almost didn't get any of the bottle.
00:19:56.000 -->
00:19:57.200Oh, you're gonna drink all of it?
00:19:57.279 -->
00:19:58.079Is that what you were saying?
00:19:58.319 -->
00:20:01.200I was just drinking it, and then I was like, oh no.
00:20:01.359 -->
00:20:04.079And I looked at the bottle, I was like, I think I got enough left for Nathan.
00:20:04.240 -->
00:20:05.039You had you had enough.
00:20:05.119 -->
00:20:10.720There was was this at a special uh uh celebratory event you attended, or is this somewhere else you can use?
00:20:11.039 -->
00:20:12.960Okay, I'll attend to it.
00:20:13.200 -->
00:20:18.000And listen, stay tuned, viewers, but while you're staying tuned, don't forget to like and subscribe.
00:20:18.319 -->
00:20:20.880And always payton, drink responsibly.
00:20:21.039 -->
00:20:21.759Heaven can wait.
00:20:22.000 -->
00:20:22.240All right.
00:20:22.960 -->
00:20:24.400Stop smoking the wacky weed.
00:20:25.039 -->
00:20:28.960With our whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment.
00:20:29.039 -->
00:20:33.599Today we bring back the funny yet informative reading of emails that I've received during the last couple weeks.
00:20:33.759 -->
00:20:41.920This includes scam fishing emails, texting scams, and all-out missed truths disguised as legitimate emails in a segment we call letters.
00:20:56.799 -->
00:20:57.279All right.
00:20:57.359 -->
00:20:59.759Well, first up always starts with our board.
00:20:59.920 -->
00:21:05.359All right, these are letters that we received, and we've highlighted certain aspects of this, and we we kind of go through.
00:21:05.599 -->
00:21:06.799Mike's got his hat on.
00:21:06.960 -->
00:21:09.279Don't click on what it what do you tell everybody?
00:21:09.920 -->
00:21:10.400Stuff.
00:21:10.640 -->
00:21:11.759Don't click on stuff.
00:21:11.839 -->
00:21:12.400That's right.
00:21:12.559 -->
00:21:14.000Okay, what do we have here?
00:21:14.319 -->
00:21:18.960I have a letter from something gifts to Nathan.
00:21:19.039 -->
00:21:21.119It says, Subject, complete your order.
00:21:21.440 -->
00:21:23.759Hello, uh, a short update from us.
00:21:23.920 -->
00:21:29.440We reduce the price on top brand gift cards for the current promotional period.
00:21:29.599 -->
00:21:33.039Three are available$25,$50, and$100.
00:21:33.519 -->
00:21:38.000And each one is sent to your inbox as soon as the order goes through.
00:21:38.240 -->
00:21:39.599There's no exceptions.
00:21:40.000 -->
00:21:42.319So they can be kept for later.
00:21:43.200 -->
00:21:45.039You can see the current pricing here.
00:21:45.359 -->
00:21:46.880Something, something gift cards.
00:21:47.279 -->
00:21:50.799The closing date of the promotional is listed on the page.
00:21:50.880 -->
00:21:56.079If anything is unclear, reply to this message reaches me directly.
00:21:56.400 -->
00:21:56.720Thanks.
00:21:56.960 -->
00:21:57.519Okay, hang on.
00:21:58.000 -->
00:21:58.480Highlight that.
00:21:58.559 -->
00:21:59.759Okay, so they had they had AI.
00:22:00.160 -->
00:22:03.680Idea and the and I hate when they they still miss a couple of letters there.
00:22:03.759 -->
00:22:04.240What does it say?
00:22:06.880 -->
00:22:11.759The closing date of the promotional is listed on the page.
00:22:12.319 -->
00:22:17.119If anything is unclear, replying to this message reaches me directly.
00:22:17.759 -->
00:22:18.079Okay.
00:22:18.720 -->
00:22:19.039Promotion.
00:22:19.440 -->
00:22:19.759Awesome.
00:22:20.079 -->
00:22:20.400Alright.
00:22:20.559 -->
00:22:20.880Okay.
00:22:21.119 -->
00:22:23.839So guess what happens when you click on that email?
00:22:25.359 -->
00:22:26.480What possibly happened?
00:22:26.720 -->
00:22:31.839Okay, so it c so it comes on up with this big flashing uh boom, boom, boom, like webpage.
00:22:32.000 -->
00:22:34.319You can get your free gift cards here.
00:22:34.640 -->
00:22:34.880Right?
00:22:35.039 -->
00:22:40.079So it so the first thing is is it lets me choose the amount of gift card I want.
00:22:40.319 -->
00:22:46.559And I've never heard about an offer where I could either choose from$25.50 to$100 gift card option.
00:22:46.799 -->
00:22:52.880If it comes on out and it allows you to choose the gift card you're gonna send to yourself, what would you what would you think of that, Mike?
00:22:52.960 -->
00:22:54.559Is it is that something that normally happens?
00:22:54.720 -->
00:22:55.440You go down to the store.
00:22:55.839 -->
00:23:01.599If I were gonna if I were gonna buy a card for$10 and they were gonna give me$100 back, yeah.
00:23:01.839 -->
00:23:02.079Yeah.
00:23:02.240 -->
00:23:03.279So have you ever gone down to the card?
00:23:03.440 -->
00:23:05.839I'm not sure that happens in real life, but I don't think so.
00:23:05.920 -->
00:23:12.799I've never gone to a supermarket, try to buy a gift card, and say, you know what, I want to buy the$25 one, but we put$50 on this one.
00:23:13.119 -->
00:23:16.319But we're gonna put$50 on, and I'm only still gonna pay that the price.
00:23:16.480 -->
00:23:18.559So it comes up to lets you choose the price itself.
00:23:18.799 -->
00:23:19.519It's like gambling.
00:23:19.680 -->
00:23:22.000You can just I'll put$50 on that gift card.
00:23:22.079 -->
00:23:23.039Well maybe I'll get it.
00:23:23.279 -->
00:23:24.319So then you start clicking.
00:23:24.400 -->
00:23:28.640So so I I type in$100 because I'm gonna go for the the the maximum amount.
00:23:28.799 -->
00:23:31.680And then I click next, and the page doesn't go anywhere.
00:23:31.839 -->
00:23:32.000No.
00:23:32.240 -->
00:23:34.400And then I click next, and the page doesn't go anywhere.
00:23:34.480 -->
00:23:34.559No.
00:23:34.799 -->
00:23:38.559So now so so now this is almost kind of a dumb criminal type of deal.
00:23:38.640 -->
00:23:40.880So first of all, you shouldn't be clicking on any of these things, right?
00:23:40.960 -->
00:23:42.160Yeah, don't click on anything.
00:23:42.240 -->
00:23:42.640Stop it.
00:23:42.720 -->
00:23:43.039Stop it.
00:23:43.279 -->
00:23:43.839Don't okay.
00:23:44.079 -->
00:23:54.319So when you do that, but then if you really want to get somebody, you put them in this infinite loop where I didn't know what was happening, and I didn't know if I was gonna get the card or not get the card.
00:23:54.559 -->
00:23:55.039Oh no.
00:23:55.279 -->
00:23:56.799And then it had at the very bottom.
00:23:57.839 -->
00:23:58.480Do you feel my pain?
00:23:58.720 -->
00:23:59.359I feel your pain.
00:23:59.440 -->
00:24:02.000Okay, so then at the very bottom, they had a contact us.
00:24:02.319 -->
00:24:07.680Now you'd figure that they with this type of system, they'd have a contact us with like an email account or something like that.
00:24:07.839 -->
00:24:10.559I click on the contact us and it goes nowhere either.
00:24:10.799 -->
00:24:12.240It's just I'm in this loop.
00:24:12.319 -->
00:24:15.119I I have a hundred dollar gift card, a fifty dollar gift card.
00:24:15.200 -->
00:24:15.599There's a lot of things.
00:24:15.759 -->
00:24:18.799You know what would be rich, just really funny and rich about this?
00:24:18.960 -->
00:24:19.359What's that?
00:24:19.599 -->
00:24:25.119If this was an actual deal, and because they set up the website so badly, there's nobody calling them.
00:24:25.200 -->
00:24:26.400They're like, I don't understand.
00:24:26.480 -->
00:24:29.039We're trying to give away money and people aren't going for it.
00:24:29.200 -->
00:24:31.279So I I literally was stuck in a loop.
00:24:31.440 -->
00:24:32.559I got frustrated.
00:24:32.720 -->
00:24:40.559I responded to the email and I said, Hey, I can't get my free gift from an email account that's not a primary email account, and nothing happened.
00:24:40.720 -->
00:24:42.640So it's just kind of went into the ether.
00:24:42.880 -->
00:24:51.119So probably it was a phishing site where they asked you for something, and somebody got to it sooner before I clicked on it and probably disabled all the functions that it had.
00:24:51.200 -->
00:24:52.720So it was not able to do anything.
00:24:53.279 -->
00:24:58.000It's good to know that anthropic's out there fighting for your right to not get scammed.
00:24:58.160 -->
00:24:58.640Is that what it is?
00:24:58.720 -->
00:24:58.880Okay.
00:24:59.599 -->
00:25:01.039You think AI made that website?
00:25:01.279 -->
00:25:02.400No, AI didn't make it.
00:25:02.640 -->
00:25:04.000It was a it was a dumb criminal.
00:25:04.799 -->
00:25:07.200It was a dumb criminal that that just didn't do it very well.
00:25:07.359 -->
00:25:07.759All right.
00:25:07.920 -->
00:25:08.960Yeah, people are stupid.
00:25:09.279 -->
00:25:09.519Okay.
00:25:09.839 -->
00:25:11.200That's the second time he said it.
00:25:11.599 -->
00:25:12.880You need to get a little ding.
00:25:13.039 -->
00:25:16.559That that is that is that is my that is my uh motto.
00:25:16.799 -->
00:25:17.599For today?
00:25:17.839 -->
00:25:18.640For all days.
00:25:18.880 -->
00:25:19.440For all days.
00:25:19.599 -->
00:25:21.680I'll get a little ding so every time he says it, I'll can mark it.
00:25:22.720 -->
00:25:23.119Okay, yeah.
00:25:23.200 -->
00:25:25.039Yeah, we'll do a drink meter.
00:25:25.119 -->
00:25:29.039Uh every time Mike says people are stupid, everybody has to take a drink.
00:25:29.519 -->
00:25:30.000Take a sip.
00:25:30.240 -->
00:25:31.200We do not have that much alcohol.
00:25:31.680 -->
00:25:32.160By the end of it.
00:25:32.400 -->
00:25:32.559All right.
00:25:32.640 -->
00:25:33.680What what do you have, Mikey?
00:25:33.839 -->
00:25:41.839I'm sure this is this is probably Yeah, this is a real scary email to get because you know you pay for these things that protect your your computer, right?
00:25:42.000 -->
00:25:42.400Yep.
00:25:42.559 -->
00:25:44.960Your security protection has expired.
00:25:45.519 -->
00:25:46.400Your user.
00:25:46.720 -->
00:25:47.039Uh-oh.
00:25:47.359 -->
00:25:52.319Your Norton total protection subscription ended on 811.
00:25:52.720 -->
00:25:53.279Uh-oh.
00:25:54.079 -->
00:25:56.000Oh, I see you got this on 811.
00:25:56.160 -->
00:25:58.799Your devices no longer have active protection.
00:25:58.960 -->
00:25:59.279Uh-oh.
00:25:59.599 -->
00:26:08.880Without your renewal, your system becomes vulnerable to malware and ransomware attacks, identity theft and phishing threats, unsafe network activity and device performance risks.
00:26:09.039 -->
00:26:09.440Uh-oh.
00:26:09.759 -->
00:26:10.720Guess who sent it?
00:26:10.960 -->
00:26:11.920Ah, well, who sent it?
00:26:12.319 -->
00:26:15.119It's gotta be coming from Norton.
00:26:15.440 -->
00:26:22.799But it comes from Desmond.ag E C at siblingfostercarefamilyagency.org.
00:26:23.039 -->
00:26:23.279What?
00:26:23.440 -->
00:26:34.319Oh on behalf of Desmond.ag E C at Echoruntly.com.
00:26:34.640 -->
00:26:34.960All right.
00:26:35.119 -->
00:26:38.559So so you're telling me EchoCarRuntly.
00:26:38.720 -->
00:26:39.680Ecarruntly.
00:26:39.839 -->
00:26:40.000Yeah.
00:26:40.160 -->
00:26:42.720E-C-C-A-R-R-U-N-T-L-Y.
00:26:43.200 -->
00:26:45.440Desmond knows all about at the at the organs.
00:26:45.680 -->
00:26:46.559Where are you going, Desmond?
00:26:46.960 -->
00:26:49.119At the Siblings Family Agency.
00:26:49.599 -->
00:26:51.279Sibling Care Foster Family Agency.
00:26:52.079 -->
00:26:54.160Okay, so they care about my security protection.
00:26:54.319 -->
00:26:56.000Yeah, they're they're really out there looking out for you.
00:26:56.480 -->
00:26:56.640All right.
00:26:56.720 -->
00:26:58.400Well, they had a link at the you know what?
00:26:58.480 -->
00:26:59.920They gave me a discount code.
00:27:00.000 -->
00:27:00.400Guess what?
00:27:00.720 -->
00:27:01.039Did they?
00:27:01.200 -->
00:27:02.640Yeah, everybody likes a discount code.
00:27:03.359 -->
00:27:04.480Look at the very bottom of that page.
00:27:04.559 -->
00:27:05.359What does it say there?
00:27:05.599 -->
00:27:06.640Renew now to ensure.
00:27:06.880 -->
00:27:07.200Oh, wait.
00:27:07.359 -->
00:27:10.559Offer valid until Well, hang on the very bottom here.
00:27:10.640 -->
00:27:11.359What's it say right there?
00:27:11.440 -->
00:27:12.559At the very, very, very bottom.
00:27:12.799 -->
00:27:14.400At the very bottom of the other page.
00:27:15.359 -->
00:27:19.440Keeper protection active and receive a 50% renewal discount.
00:27:19.599 -->
00:27:20.64050% renewal discount.
00:27:20.880 -->
00:27:22.88050% half off.
00:27:23.200 -->
00:27:24.799From a family charity organization.
00:27:24.960 -->
00:27:35.839From a charity organization taking care of my Norton security protocol that I've never used because Norton is the biggest scam of any of these life lock things and any of those items.
00:27:36.079 -->
00:27:37.680Alright, well, let's go to our final letter here.
00:27:38.079 -->
00:27:38.960Why don't you do it, Mike?
00:27:39.039 -->
00:27:40.079You got another one here that's pretty good.
00:27:40.880 -->
00:27:42.079Oh, this one's from Robinhood.
00:27:42.319 -->
00:27:43.039Oh, Robinhood.
00:27:43.200 -->
00:27:44.160Oh, the Robin Hood.
00:27:44.559 -->
00:27:46.960Yeah, that's that would be that financial app, I guess.
00:27:48.160 -->
00:27:52.319The contact details change has been approved and activated.
00:27:52.559 -->
00:27:55.599So I guess they request details.
00:27:55.839 -->
00:27:56.000Okay.
00:27:56.400 -->
00:27:58.480And approved a new number.
00:27:58.720 -->
00:27:58.960All right.
00:27:59.359 -->
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00:28:10.319And it's from Fez.
00:28:10.799 -->
00:28:12.160Well, it has to be from Robinhood, right?
00:28:12.240 -->
00:28:13.039It came from Robinhood.
00:28:13.920 -->
00:28:16.319No, because we got all these watchdogs that are helping us out.
00:28:16.480 -->
00:28:16.559Okay.
00:28:17.519 -->
00:28:21.200It comes from Fez at hdsservices.com.mx.
00:28:21.440 -->
00:28:22.400Oh, dot MX.
00:28:22.480 -->
00:28:22.640Yes.
00:28:22.799 -->
00:28:23.039Fez.
00:28:23.759 -->
00:28:23.920Fez.
00:28:24.160 -->
00:28:25.599Fez Fez is my buddy.
00:28:26.480 -->
00:28:26.799Fez.
00:28:27.119 -->
00:28:27.599Wasn't he?
00:28:27.759 -->
00:28:28.160What was that?
00:28:28.559 -->
00:28:29.599The 70s show?
00:28:30.559 -->
00:28:32.559Was that that 70s show that had Fez?
00:28:32.799 -->
00:28:33.119I don't know.
00:28:33.359 -->
00:28:33.759I don't know.
00:28:34.720 -->
00:28:35.519You guys are so bad.
00:28:35.680 -->
00:28:35.920I know.
00:28:36.000 -->
00:28:37.279I didn't watch that 70s show.
00:28:37.359 -->
00:28:38.000Uh what?
00:28:38.880 -->
00:28:42.000Oh, well, you weren't born in the 70s, so I guess I guess that makes sense.
00:28:42.160 -->
00:28:43.200I was born in 73.
00:28:43.359 -->
00:28:43.599Come on.
00:28:44.079 -->
00:28:44.559All right, all right.
00:28:44.799 -->
00:28:45.039I live.
00:28:45.200 -->
00:28:45.920I didn't watch that show.
00:28:46.079 -->
00:28:46.240Okay.
00:28:46.319 -->
00:28:46.559All right.
00:28:46.640 -->
00:28:46.720Okay.
00:28:46.960 -->
00:28:50.480At any rate, uh, yeah, Fez, Fez is looking out for you, buddy.
00:28:50.720 -->
00:28:51.039He is.
00:28:51.119 -->
00:28:51.279Okay.
00:28:51.359 -->
00:28:52.799So what happens if I reply to it?
00:28:52.880 -->
00:28:53.839Where does it go to?
00:28:54.319 -->
00:28:56.160Well, I don't know because I don't click on it.
00:28:56.319 -->
00:29:01.599It goes to customer-90643 at app.robin.
00:29:01.839 -->
00:29:03.039Oh, is that spelled right?
00:29:03.200 -->
00:29:05.119Robinhood.com.
00:29:05.359 -->
00:29:06.880Yeah, it doesn't go to that site either.
00:29:07.039 -->
00:29:08.160So that is a scam site.
00:29:08.240 -->
00:29:10.640Anytime I don't even have a Robinhood account.
00:29:10.799 -->
00:29:16.240So if you're sending me stuff, I mean you're just spitting in the in the dark trying to see people.
00:29:16.400 -->
00:29:24.319But what happens is when you actually have those accounts and you get these emails, you get a whole lot more excited and you go, oh my gosh, I need to take care of this.
00:29:24.480 -->
00:29:26.480Never ever respond to an email.
00:29:26.720 -->
00:29:28.160Log into your account.
00:29:28.319 -->
00:29:31.680If you have an account with Robinhood, don't respond to the email.
00:29:31.759 -->
00:29:36.400Just log into your standard Robinhood account and then see if there's anything that's pending.
00:29:36.480 -->
00:29:42.720If there's nothing that's pending in there, you can contact their customer service line from their site, but that's what you need to do.
00:29:42.880 -->
00:29:43.200Yeah.
00:29:43.359 -->
00:29:43.599Yeah.
00:29:43.759 -->
00:29:45.359You know why you keep getting these?
00:29:45.599 -->
00:29:47.039Uh, because I sign up for them.
00:29:47.279 -->
00:29:48.480So because they work.
00:29:48.559 -->
00:29:49.119Yeah, they do work.
00:29:49.359 -->
00:29:50.160You know why they work?
00:29:50.319 -->
00:29:51.839Because people fill those out.
00:29:52.160 -->
00:29:54.400People are we're gonna talk about this in the Nathan Nugget.
00:29:54.480 -->
00:29:56.319So we we gotta make sure we get to the Nathan Nugget today.
00:29:56.559 -->
00:29:56.720Okay.
00:29:56.799 -->
00:29:58.000All right, so we're gonna talk all about it.
00:29:58.079 -->
00:29:59.200Well, you got anything else there?
00:29:59.279 -->
00:30:00.240What were you saying, Peyton?
00:30:00.400 -->
00:30:01.680Sorry, I'm just rereading this.
00:30:01.759 -->
00:30:03.119Uh, it's top brins.
00:30:03.680 -->
00:30:04.160What's that?
00:30:04.319 -->
00:30:05.279Not brands, brins.
00:30:05.759 -->
00:30:06.640Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:06.880 -->
00:30:08.799Sorry, I just had to re-coup on that.
00:30:08.960 -->
00:30:12.559Yeah, so when you were reading your thing, you actually corrected it, you auto-corrected it.
00:30:12.720 -->
00:30:13.599I am the AI.
00:30:13.759 -->
00:30:14.079Yes.
00:30:14.319 -->
00:30:16.640Well, yeah, that's that's something that you do.
00:30:16.880 -->
00:30:17.279That's right.
00:30:17.440 -->
00:30:22.960There's a lot of lot of different ways that your brain translates words as you're reading them.
00:30:23.039 -->
00:30:23.279Yeah.
00:30:23.440 -->
00:30:23.680All right.
00:30:24.000 -->
00:30:31.599In fact, you can take all did you know that you can take all the vowels out and still be able to read something?
00:30:32.960 -->
00:30:33.920Yeah, yeah, you can do that.
00:30:34.000 -->
00:30:34.160All right.
00:30:34.319 -->
00:30:35.119Oh, well, that was our letter.
00:30:35.920 -->
00:30:37.039That was our letter segment.
00:30:37.200 -->
00:30:41.359Now, let's move on to Mike, the AI guy.
00:30:42.960 -->
00:30:46.480We have the grumpiest guy in the world coming up!
00:31:06.079 -->
00:31:06.640All right.
00:31:07.519 -->
00:31:11.839Well, you know, I feel I felt like I should have been talking about the Daleks here.
00:31:12.000 -->
00:31:13.359You know where the Daleks are.
00:31:13.759 -->
00:31:14.000Okay.
00:31:14.160 -->
00:31:14.799Doctor Who.
00:31:15.039 -->
00:31:15.839Doctor Who.
00:31:16.079 -->
00:31:16.400Right?
00:31:16.559 -->
00:31:18.160Exterminate and exterminate.
00:31:18.319 -->
00:31:18.640Okay.
00:31:18.880 -->
00:31:20.400I I feel bad for you right now.
00:31:20.480 -->
00:31:22.000You just don't know what I'm talking about.
00:31:22.160 -->
00:31:24.000I reference things and you have no idea what you're doing.
00:31:24.160 -->
00:31:24.480I do not.
00:31:24.559 -->
00:31:24.880I do not.
00:31:25.039 -->
00:31:25.279You know what?
00:31:25.359 -->
00:31:25.920You're referenced.
00:31:26.240 -->
00:31:27.039It's not Star Trek.
00:31:27.119 -->
00:31:27.519Yeah, that's right.
00:31:28.319 -->
00:31:28.799Star Trek.
00:31:30.880 -->
00:31:31.039I did.
00:31:31.200 -->
00:31:32.160I said Star Trek.
00:31:32.319 -->
00:31:32.559Okay.
00:31:32.640 -->
00:31:33.279What do we got?
00:31:33.519 -->
00:31:34.000All right.
00:31:34.319 -->
00:31:41.279So, you know, today's episode about things I definitely aren't making me more comfortable about AI.
00:31:41.599 -->
00:31:41.759Okay.
00:31:42.640 -->
00:31:57.200Uh so this week, Anthropic released a report showing that his AI assistant Claude has been used by Russian intelligence group, ransomware gangs, disinformation campaigns, and even people exploring biological threat research.
00:31:58.400 -->
00:31:58.799What?
00:31:59.039 -->
00:32:02.960Now, before you panic, Anthropic apparently stopped them.
00:32:03.200 -->
00:32:04.480Oh, is that what they said?
00:32:04.640 -->
00:32:05.920And that's great, apparently.
00:32:06.160 -->
00:32:07.039Oh, they said that, huh?
00:32:07.119 -->
00:32:13.680Because there's nothing more reassuring than a company saying, good news we caught some of the bad guys using our technology.
00:32:13.920 -->
00:32:14.640Oh boy.
00:32:14.720 -->
00:32:14.880Okay.
00:32:15.279 -->
00:32:15.599Some.
00:32:15.759 -->
00:32:18.160My favorite word in cyber cybersecurity is some.
00:32:18.559 -->
00:32:19.599Yeah, we got some of them.
00:32:19.759 -->
00:32:20.400We got some of them.
00:32:20.559 -->
00:32:21.200We got some of them.
00:32:21.279 -->
00:32:22.559Not all of them, but we stopped them.
00:32:22.640 -->
00:32:23.920We stopped some of them.
00:32:24.000 -->
00:32:24.240Okay.
00:32:24.559 -->
00:32:34.240According to the report, one Russian state sponsored hacking group allegedly used AI to help with reconnaissance and target research, which means we're now living in a world where spies have interns.
00:32:34.400 -->
00:32:34.559Okay.
00:32:35.119 -->
00:32:36.960And really good customer service.
00:32:37.119 -->
00:32:37.599That's right.
00:32:37.759 -->
00:32:40.319Uh, not human interns, infinite interns.
00:32:40.480 -->
00:32:45.680Interns that don't sleep and they don't complain, and they never ask if there's free pizza in the break room.
00:32:46.400 -->
00:32:47.279So they're probably going to be.
00:32:47.599 -->
00:32:51.680Isn't that like a Silicon Valley dream right there that your workers don't complain?
00:32:54.079 -->
00:32:54.640Everybody's dream.
00:32:55.359 -->
00:32:55.519Okay.
00:32:55.680 -->
00:33:01.920We all think we all have this idea that people that are building businesses do it to help people get jobs.
00:33:02.079 -->
00:33:02.559That's not true.
00:33:02.640 -->
00:33:05.200Because if they could do the work without people, they would do that.
00:33:05.440 -->
00:33:05.599Okay.
00:33:05.759 -->
00:33:06.720So we see that every day.
00:33:06.960 -->
00:33:11.519So now the gangs and cyber criminals are are doing the same thing, so yeah, well, yeah.
00:33:11.680 -->
00:33:13.920That's kind of that's kind of a non-starter, right?
00:33:14.079 -->
00:33:16.240We already know who's gonna use this.
00:33:16.400 -->
00:33:22.000Cyber criminal gangs are using this stuff for research, planning, writing, and analysis.
00:33:22.160 -->
00:33:27.839At this point, AI has become the most overclaw overqualified employee in organized crime.
00:33:28.400 -->
00:33:35.599The AI companies keep telling us, yeah, yeah, yeah, AI is just a tool that's gonna come and exterminate us one day, but hey.
00:33:36.000 -->
00:33:37.599And I agree.
00:33:39.519 -->
00:33:40.559I do use it.
00:33:40.799 -->
00:33:43.599I'm not gonna sit here and say that I don't use AI.
00:33:43.839 -->
00:33:44.000Okay.
00:33:44.799 -->
00:33:46.880But let's not pretend this is a hammer.
00:33:47.119 -->
00:33:47.279Okay?
00:33:47.599 -->
00:33:50.319This is more like a Swiss Army knife with a PhD.
00:33:50.799 -->
00:33:54.720Access to the entire internet and a healthy desire to be helpful.
00:33:54.960 -->
00:33:58.559The funniest part is everyone keeps talking about artificial intelligence.
00:33:58.640 -->
00:34:01.279The real risk might be artificial competence.
00:34:01.759 -->
00:34:09.360For centuries being a criminal required effort, now apparently all you need is a Wi-Fi signal and and some confidence in your typing ability.
00:34:09.599 -->
00:34:09.760Okay?
00:34:10.320 -->
00:34:12.719Every IA company is the same message.
00:34:12.880 -->
00:34:14.559We've built guardrails.
00:34:15.199 -->
00:34:16.480Fantastic.
00:34:17.920 -->
00:34:22.639Because history shows that humans absolutely love respecting guardrails.
00:34:24.000 -->
00:34:27.199Nobody has ever ignored a warning label.
00:34:27.519 -->
00:34:27.920Oh no.
00:34:28.480 -->
00:34:29.039Never.
00:34:30.639 -->
00:34:31.119Yep.
00:34:31.360 -->
00:34:36.159That's why your hair dryer has a label on it that says, Don't use this in a shower.
00:34:36.400 -->
00:34:37.360Or or a bathtub.
00:34:37.440 -->
00:34:37.519Right.
00:34:37.679 -->
00:34:38.159Or a bathtub.
00:34:38.800 -->
00:34:39.760Because people have done it.
00:34:39.840 -->
00:34:40.159Yeah.
00:34:40.480 -->
00:34:43.199Nobody has ever bypassed a security controller.
00:34:43.440 -->
00:34:48.000Nobody has ever looked at a restriction and thought, hmm, challenge accepted.
00:34:48.719 -->
00:34:53.760What makes this story interesting isn't that AI is becoming evil, because it is.
00:34:54.960 -->
00:35:01.519It's that AI is becoming available to everyone, which includes the good guys, the bad guys, and the weird guys.
00:35:01.760 -->
00:35:02.719Let's be honest.
00:35:03.039 -->
00:35:09.280The internet has never exactly struggled to produce weird guys, and cyber criminals are as bad as it gets.
00:35:10.159 -->
00:35:15.679So the takeaway is I'm not worried that AI will become self-aware.
00:35:16.000 -->
00:35:16.800I'm not?
00:35:17.360 -->
00:35:18.000I guess not.
00:35:18.159 -->
00:35:18.320Okay.
00:35:18.800 -->
00:35:20.320I'm just reading the script, buddy.
00:35:20.800 -->
00:35:23.599I'm worried that it keeps making humans more efficient.
00:35:23.920 -->
00:35:24.639No, no.
00:35:24.960 -->
00:35:28.559I I I uh I don't know if I agree with those statements.
00:35:28.960 -->
00:35:34.800Because if you spend enough time in cybersecurity, you know the scariest thing in technology has never been the machines.
00:35:35.199 -->
00:35:36.480It's the people using them.
00:35:36.559 -->
00:35:37.840Yeah, I say this all the time, right?
00:35:38.000 -->
00:35:38.400Yep.
00:35:39.119 -->
00:35:40.559Said before, people are stupid.
00:35:40.639 -->
00:35:41.440Hey, there it is.
00:35:41.519 -->
00:35:42.719There's my call line.
00:35:42.960 -->
00:35:43.760That's it, the third time?
00:35:44.159 -->
00:35:44.320Yep.
00:35:44.480 -->
00:35:47.360And now those people have a really, really smart assistance.
00:35:48.800 -->
00:35:50.639Sleep well, everybody.
00:35:51.199 -->
00:35:53.119Sleep well, everybody.
00:35:54.159 -->
00:35:56.239Is that how you're is that is that a mic drop?
00:35:57.119 -->
00:35:57.280Hold on.
00:35:57.599 -->
00:35:58.719Do they call it a gang?
00:35:58.800 -->
00:36:00.079It's a cyber gang.
00:36:00.239 -->
00:36:01.599Yeah, but they call it different things.
00:36:01.760 -->
00:36:03.280Who's calling it a cyber gang?
00:36:03.440 -->
00:36:04.719Oh, they do it all the time online.
00:36:07.039 -->
00:36:09.920Like a gang is like people getting together in real life.
00:36:10.159 -->
00:36:12.320Well, sometimes they do have that and they give themselves names.
00:36:12.639 -->
00:36:14.480Have you ever watched the movie The Beekeeper?
00:36:14.719 -->
00:36:15.360I have not.
00:36:15.599 -->
00:36:16.079Oh my word.
00:36:16.239 -->
00:36:18.000But when I say who are you people?
00:36:18.320 -->
00:36:22.559When I when you say gang, I think it's a side story.
00:36:22.880 -->
00:36:24.079Yeah, this is what happens.
00:36:24.239 -->
00:36:24.719Yeah, it's not a good thing.
00:36:25.440 -->
00:36:26.800All these AI guys get together.
00:36:28.239 -->
00:36:34.559All these guys get together with their AI and dance and and and do uh do songs together.
00:36:35.199 -->
00:36:36.960The Jets and the Sharks or whatever that is.
00:36:37.440 -->
00:36:38.159Oh right, okay.
00:36:38.239 -->
00:36:40.079Well, you know what, Mike You got that one.
00:36:40.159 -->
00:36:40.960I did get that one.
00:36:41.199 -->
00:36:41.920How'd that one happen?
00:36:42.480 -->
00:36:46.000Well, you know, I I'm kind of into the uh uh musicals.
00:36:46.079 -->
00:36:51.920So if you want to ask us musicals, there is something there that just sounds wrong.
00:36:52.239 -->
00:36:54.239Musicals are acceptable for everyone.
00:36:54.480 -->
00:36:56.079All right, well, guess what?
00:36:56.159 -->
00:36:59.199Now we need to move on to our secret sound.
00:36:59.519 -->
00:37:02.079Let's see what we got coming up this time.
00:37:03.280 -->
00:37:07.599And now for our secret sound, brought to us by Elite Executive Services.
00:37:07.760 -->
00:37:13.039Visit TechTimeradio.com and click on the contact page to submit your answer.
00:37:13.360 -->
00:37:15.119Odie, play that sound.
00:37:22.639 -->
00:37:24.320All right, do you know what that secret sound is?
00:37:24.400 -->
00:37:26.159The pot is back at now$55.
00:37:26.719 -->
00:37:27.039I don't know.
00:37:27.119 -->
00:37:28.400Can anybody hear that secret sound?
00:37:28.800 -->
00:37:29.920I think I can hear that secret sound.
00:37:30.159 -->
00:37:31.360Well, yeah, but I got earphones on.
00:37:32.559 -->
00:37:33.760I can hear it because I got headphones.
00:37:34.079 -->
00:37:34.559But guess what?
00:37:34.639 -->
00:37:41.840The best thing about us being on YouTube and being on a podcast, you can go back and listen to it again and again and again and again.
00:37:42.000 -->
00:37:42.480Live reading.
00:37:42.639 -->
00:37:45.119I wonder if you can ask AI what the what the secret sound is.
00:37:45.280 -->
00:37:46.559Um you know what you can try.
00:37:46.639 -->
00:37:47.920Maybe jump in there.
00:37:48.239 -->
00:37:53.360So if you do know what it is, call us at 206-649-6098.
00:37:53.679 -->
00:37:54.800Talk to us at the studio.
00:37:54.880 -->
00:37:56.960If you want to talk to Mike and I, you can give us a call there.
00:37:57.039 -->
00:37:58.880We'll we'll glad to have a conversation with you.
00:37:59.280 -->
00:38:01.840Say Alexa, Shazam the Secret Sound.
00:38:03.039 -->
00:38:03.679There you go.
00:38:03.760 -->
00:38:07.119Or you can always go online at our new redesigned website.
00:38:07.280 -->
00:38:08.800I don't know how many more times I can say that.
00:38:08.960 -->
00:38:11.119Redesigned website at techtimeradio.com.
00:38:11.280 -->
00:38:12.000Say it once more.
00:38:12.159 -->
00:38:15.280Well, you can visit us at our new website at techtimeradio.com.
00:38:15.840 -->
00:38:17.599Gotta use a redesigned website.
00:38:17.760 -->
00:38:25.199Uh when we return, we have this week in technology, so now would be a great time to enjoy a little whiskey on the side as we will be doing so during the break.
00:38:25.360 -->
00:38:27.599You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mums.
00:38:27.760 -->
00:38:28.559See you in a few minutes.
00:38:28.800 -->
00:38:29.360Hey Mike.
00:38:29.519 -->
00:38:30.320Yeah, what's up?
00:38:30.480 -->
00:38:31.519Hey, so you know what?
00:38:31.599 -->
00:38:34.719We need people to start liking our uh social media pages.
00:38:34.880 -->
00:38:40.480If you like our show, if you really like us, we should use your support on patreon.com.
00:38:40.719 -->
00:38:41.519Or is it Patreon?
00:38:41.599 -->
00:38:42.480I think it's Patreon.
00:38:42.639 -->
00:38:43.360Okay, Patreon.
00:38:43.440 -->
00:38:46.000If you really like us, you can say I'm the English guy?
00:38:46.400 -->
00:38:47.199Patreon.com.
00:38:47.519 -->
00:38:49.039I I butcher the English language?
00:38:49.280 -->
00:38:50.800You know you butcher the English language.
00:38:50.880 -->
00:38:52.800Okay, so it's all the time.com.
00:38:53.280 -->
00:38:54.079Patreon.com.
00:38:54.320 -->
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00:39:03.599You know the one that Zuckerberg owns?
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00:39:05.039The one that we always bag on?
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00:39:41.360And now, let's look back at this week in technology.
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00:39:42.239All right.
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00:39:45.760We're going back to September 15th, 1997.
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00:39:52.159When an individual by the name of Larry Page and Sergey Brynn registered the domain Google.com.
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00:39:55.679At the time, it wasn't worth the trillions that it is now.
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00:40:00.400It was just a Stanford research project trying to make sense of the rapidly growing internet.
00:40:01.199 -->
00:40:04.800What's funny is before Google, the project was called Backrub.
00:40:04.960 -->
00:40:05.760Yes, Backrub.
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00:40:10.800Somehow it was considered a good name for a search engine until cooler heads prevailed, and they chose Google.
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00:40:19.119Good buddy got an HR violation based on mathematical term Google, which is a one followed by a hundred zeros.
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00:40:26.400Today the little domain registration grew into a company behind search, Gmail, maps, Android, Chrome, and much of the modern internet.
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00:40:32.960Sometimes the biggest technology revolutions start with two college students, a simple idea, and a domain name.
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00:40:42.000And thank goodness they changed it from back rub because I just back rubbed it would have made for some very awkward conversations in the workplace.
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00:40:43.360Yep, yep, yep, yep.
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00:41:31.679The segment we've been waiting all week for.
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00:41:47.360Oh, today.
00:41:47.679 -->
00:41:49.599Today is so easy for you guys to guess.
00:41:49.679 -->
00:41:53.360If you don't know what September 15th, what today is, you'll be disappointed.
00:41:53.599 -->
00:41:54.639Well, it's a Google day.
00:41:55.039 -->
00:41:56.239It's back rub day, right?
00:41:56.639 -->
00:41:57.840Did you back rub that recently?
00:41:58.880 -->
00:41:59.599You got it.
00:41:59.840 -->
00:42:02.159Did you do the same story?com day.
00:42:02.320 -->
00:42:03.920Did you do the same story?
00:42:04.239 -->
00:42:04.480Yeah.
00:42:04.960 -->
00:42:05.760Okay, perfect.
00:42:06.000 -->
00:42:06.559Okay, perfect.
00:42:06.639 -->
00:42:07.199Okay, there you go.
00:42:07.280 -->
00:42:07.599There you go.
00:42:07.840 -->
00:42:10.159So that's what September 15th is all about, huh?
00:42:10.320 -->
00:42:11.039Yeah, it's about Google.
00:42:11.440 -->
00:42:12.239I got back rubbed.
00:42:12.480 -->
00:42:13.280You got back rubbed.
00:42:13.360 -->
00:42:14.000Just think of that.
00:42:14.400 -->
00:42:15.199Go back rub it.
00:42:15.519 -->
00:42:16.239Put that on a shirt.
00:42:16.320 -->
00:42:16.480Yeah.
00:42:16.559 -->
00:42:16.880Yeah.
00:42:18.000 -->
00:42:22.880So today marks the registration of Google.com back in 1997.
00:42:23.119 -->
00:42:23.760Yes.
00:42:24.239 -->
00:42:28.559And as you guys mentioned before that, they were called Backrub, which thankfully did not stick.
00:42:28.719 -->
00:42:35.440So Google itself came from a misspelling of Google, the number one, followed by 100 zeros.
00:42:35.599 -->
00:42:36.320There you go.
00:42:36.559 -->
00:42:39.679Proving that occasionally a typo can work out pretty well.
00:42:39.840 -->
00:42:43.760Although I would not recommend Nathan using that as an excuse on the radio show.
00:42:44.079 -->
00:42:46.719Yeah, Nathan doesn't need those excuses.
00:42:48.480 -->
00:42:52.239He just vomits the I I don't think Google it's going to be around for 10 years.
00:42:52.320 -->
00:42:54.880I mean, right now that was kind of the saying, hey, just go Google it.
00:42:55.039 -->
00:42:57.440I actually can I it'll be go chat GPT.
00:42:57.679 -->
00:43:00.000It's part of the national zeit ice, it's not going away.
00:43:00.239 -->
00:43:00.559I don't know.
00:43:00.880 -->
00:43:01.360Zero X.
00:43:01.679 -->
00:43:03.519Have you seen the new ChatGPT commercials?
00:43:03.599 -->
00:43:07.679They're all over online with the old lady talking to the to the deal as a friend.
00:43:07.760 -->
00:43:09.440She's like, Oh, hi, what can I call you?
00:43:09.679 -->
00:43:10.960Call me Chat GPT.
00:43:11.039 -->
00:43:17.519And she asks about yarning questions and a bunch of turns to the camera and goes, We're coming to get you.
00:43:17.760 -->
00:43:19.039It's gonna be all right.
00:43:19.119 -->
00:43:20.880Continue on, Mark.
00:43:21.119 -->
00:43:30.239All right, so and since Google later created Google X to experiment with moonshot ideas, it's only fitting we move to Penelope Project X.
00:43:30.400 -->
00:43:30.960Oh, I see that.
00:43:31.199 -->
00:43:36.480Where the experiments involve old French cognac barrels instead of a self-driving cars.
00:43:36.960 -->
00:43:39.599And old is definitely the right word here.
00:43:39.679 -->
00:43:44.000This bourbon was finished in an authentic 1964 cognac barrel.
00:43:44.239 -->
00:43:48.639Meaning the barrel predates Google.com by thirty three years.
00:43:49.440 -->
00:43:54.800So at sixty two years sixty two years old, this barrel is technically old enough to rethink about retirement.
00:43:55.039 -->
00:43:57.360Yeah, this is older than older than me.
00:43:58.159 -->
00:43:59.679Yes, older than all of us.
00:44:00.079 -->
00:44:00.639I will say.
00:44:01.119 -->
00:44:02.079Let me just throw that out.
00:44:02.480 -->
00:44:02.639Okay.
00:44:02.719 -->
00:44:04.320Well, we'll just get on the same page.
00:44:05.519 -->
00:44:20.159Now, cognac is a grape-based brandy from the cognac region of France, and finishing bourbon in one of its barrels can add richer fruit, floral sweetness, dried grape, and spice notes to the traditional caramel and oak of standard bourbon.
00:44:20.800 -->
00:44:23.599Now, for me, I enjoy this one quite a bit.
00:44:23.760 -->
00:44:28.639Which stands which stands out differently is how what the cognac barrel makes it.
00:44:28.880 -->
00:44:34.480There's a rich fruitiness, the sweetness layered over the bourbon, makes the pour interesting from beginning to end.
00:44:34.639 -->
00:44:41.760It is a little unusual, and I can absolutely see it not being for everyone, especially if you want that traditional bourbon taste.
00:44:41.920 -->
00:44:43.760I've tasted it out to lots of people.
00:44:43.920 -->
00:44:46.320Some have loved it, some haven't.
00:44:46.639 -->
00:44:55.199When I first tasted it, I was so so on it, and then I kept kind of drinking it, and then it became my nightly pour, and I almost finished that bottle in a week.
00:44:55.440 -->
00:44:57.119It was just crappy.
00:44:57.360 -->
00:44:57.840That's good.
00:44:58.079 -->
00:45:03.280Now for$65, I appreciate that Penelope took that chance and gave us something different.
00:45:03.599 -->
00:45:08.480Project X feels like the right name, experimental, and for me, this one worked, as we mentioned.
00:45:08.800 -->
00:45:14.559If you want a bottle and you're in the Seattle area, go visit Lee at QFC Renton.
00:45:14.639 -->
00:45:17.440He is the one that picked it out, and it's only at his store.
00:45:18.559 -->
00:45:20.639Wasn't Project X a Wolverine thing?
00:45:20.880 -->
00:45:21.440Uh I don't know.
00:45:21.679 -->
00:45:26.159You know, speaking of Wolverine, they just had the new like rated R version of Wolverine hit the PlayStation.
00:45:26.239 -->
00:45:28.639So I yeah, maybe we're all coming back together.
00:45:28.960 -->
00:45:31.840You know, sometimes I marvel at the way you connect things in your brain.
00:45:32.000 -->
00:45:32.400Do you see that?
00:45:32.480 -->
00:45:33.840Yeah, it's a little scary sometimes.
00:45:34.559 -->
00:45:35.679You don't actually answer.
00:45:36.000 -->
00:45:38.000You're like a politician, but answer wrong.
00:45:38.480 -->
00:45:39.280What's that?
00:45:40.000 -->
00:45:43.840We're just gonna start naming everything America in New Mexico, New America.
00:45:44.800 -->
00:45:45.119I'm sorry.
00:45:45.280 -->
00:45:46.880Can I get that one more time, Mike?
00:45:47.039 -->
00:45:47.840He's like a what?
00:45:47.920 -->
00:45:51.440I said he's like a politician, but his answers are always wrong.
00:45:52.159 -->
00:45:56.159Have you seen the new South Park uh commercial about renaming South Park?
00:45:56.639 -->
00:45:58.719No, I you know, no, you gotta watch it.
00:45:58.800 -->
00:45:59.360It's pretty funny.
00:45:59.599 -->
00:46:02.320We live, we we live in a world of delusion anyway.
00:46:02.880 -->
00:46:03.679All right, okay.
00:46:03.840 -->
00:46:07.599Well I'm going to I'm going to pack up and move to Nathan Land.
00:46:07.840 -->
00:46:08.320All right.
00:46:08.559 -->
00:46:10.239Back to you, Nathan America.
00:46:10.400 -->
00:46:10.719All right.
00:46:10.800 -->
00:46:12.159Well, Nathan America.
00:46:12.239 -->
00:46:12.960Well, you know what?
00:46:13.119 -->
00:46:15.199Mark, whiskey and technology are such a great pairing.
00:46:15.840 -->
00:46:21.199The NFL season kickoff weekend this last weekend and gambling ads on every commercial break.
00:46:21.360 -->
00:46:35.199Now, I can I don't know who else advertises between BetMGM, FanDuel, DraftKings, Caesar Sportsbook, Polymarket, there is no other commercial every once in a while that gets bumped with a beer commercial.
00:46:35.360 -->
00:46:36.719Everything is gambling.
00:46:36.880 -->
00:46:37.360I don't know.
00:46:37.440 -->
00:46:42.239And then at the very bottom, they say, if you have a gambling addiction, please contact us.
00:46:42.480 -->
00:46:48.480Clearly, all of America has a gambling addiction if every one of these things can exist.
00:46:48.639 -->
00:46:52.800I actually feel left out because are you doing a PSA right now?
00:46:52.880 -->
00:46:53.360Are you drinking?
00:46:55.760 -->
00:46:56.239What's going on?
00:46:56.400 -->
00:46:58.239I only do the fantasy football stuff.
00:46:58.320 -->
00:46:59.599So this is good.
00:46:59.760 -->
00:47:01.679Wow, Nathan coming from Nathan.
00:47:01.760 -->
00:47:02.079Wow.
00:47:02.239 -->
00:47:06.480Yeah, he does this weird matchup and then he goes into a PSA about not gambling.
00:47:06.719 -->
00:47:07.599That's how his brain works, right?
00:47:07.840 -->
00:47:09.920Circle September 15th for Nathan.
00:47:10.159 -->
00:47:10.320Again.
00:47:10.719 -->
00:47:11.119There we go.
00:47:11.519 -->
00:47:11.760Okay.
00:47:11.840 -->
00:47:12.719Well, yeah, there you go.
00:47:12.800 -->
00:47:13.119All right.
00:47:13.199 -->
00:47:17.280Well, now let's prepare for our technology fail of the week.
00:47:17.360 -->
00:47:18.239You guys are gonna love this.
00:47:18.400 -->
00:47:20.639Brought to you by Elite Executive Services.
00:47:21.039 -->
00:47:22.320Congratulations.
00:47:22.559 -->
00:47:23.840You're a failure.
00:47:24.159 -->
00:47:25.679Oh, I failed.
00:47:25.760 -->
00:47:26.239Did I?
00:47:26.480 -->
00:47:26.960Yes.
00:47:27.199 -->
00:47:27.920Did I?
00:47:28.159 -->
00:47:28.639Yes.
00:47:28.880 -->
00:47:29.280All right.
00:47:29.360 -->
00:47:34.719Well, for this week's technology fail, we're heading to the beautiful state of Florida.
00:47:35.039 -->
00:47:41.679All right, the Florida DMV, not just because they got hacked, but because they got hacked the old-fashioned way.
00:47:41.920 -->
00:47:58.719According to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, attackers accessed the state's David, a D A V I D driver database, using credentials from the police department account that had been improperly stored on an employee's personal computer device.
00:47:59.280 -->
00:48:03.360The breach is leaked to claims by Shiny Hunters, a cyber uh crime group.
00:48:03.679 -->
00:48:04.880See, there's a gang name for you.
00:48:05.039 -->
00:48:09.599Yeah, which has stole more than 200,000 driver records.
00:48:09.840 -->
00:48:17.119These records included your tickets, your driving history, how you passed your test, where to send the registrations to.
00:48:17.599 -->
00:48:25.840But when you think about it, we spend billions of dollars on cybersecurity, AI threat detection, zero trust, advanced monitoring, quantum resistant encryption.
00:48:26.000 -->
00:48:28.880And then somebody leaves the keys on a personal device.
00:48:28.960 -->
00:48:34.800It's like installing a bank vault door and then hiding the combination under the welcome mat at the entrance of the bank.
00:48:35.039 -->
00:48:39.760The lesson sometimes the biggest cybersecurity vulnerability isn't a nation state hacker.
00:48:40.079 -->
00:48:42.000This is how most hacking is done, though.
00:48:42.239 -->
00:48:43.760It's Derek, the human.
00:48:44.000 -->
00:48:44.559It's Derek.
00:48:44.800 -->
00:48:45.760And what do we think about this?
00:48:46.239 -->
00:48:46.639Derek.
00:48:46.719 -->
00:48:47.119Oh no.
00:48:47.440 -->
00:48:48.079What is Derek?
00:48:48.239 -->
00:48:51.760Derek is Derek, you have to go to HR to talk about the back ropes.
00:48:52.079 -->
00:48:52.480All right.
00:48:52.719 -->
00:48:59.920Putting information on his personal tablet and then clicking on a fishing link and exposing it to the cyber criminals online.
00:49:00.320 -->
00:49:02.400Derek obviously does not listen to our letter.
00:49:02.800 -->
00:49:03.199He does not.
00:49:03.360 -->
00:49:04.079Bad Derek.
00:49:04.159 -->
00:49:05.679Don't click on stuff, Derek.
00:49:06.000 -->
00:49:06.480There you go.
00:49:06.639 -->
00:49:07.360You know what?
00:49:07.679 -->
00:49:12.960Now we we got to continue the the triad going on here with cyber criminals.
00:49:13.039 -->
00:49:15.280Let's now move to the Nathan Nugget of the Week.
00:49:15.519 -->
00:49:18.000This is your nugget of the week.
00:49:18.239 -->
00:49:20.400Well, today we're talking about cyber criminals.
00:49:20.800 -->
00:49:24.639No, criminals steal something much more valuable.
00:49:25.599 -->
00:49:28.800They steal your trust than friendship or partnership.
00:49:29.039 -->
00:49:29.760Are you serious?
00:49:30.000 -->
00:49:30.400The U.S.
00:49:30.800 -->
00:49:31.679just distributed.
00:49:32.239 -->
00:49:32.559Yeah, yeah.
00:49:32.719 -->
00:49:33.679So yep, here we go.
00:49:33.760 -->
00:49:34.079The U.S.
00:49:34.239 -->
00:49:46.559just distributed Shenbi Guarantee, a massive criminal marketplace tied to more than$30 billion in transactions and countless pig butchering scams.
00:49:46.719 -->
00:49:48.960Now, have you heard of a pig butchering scam?
00:49:49.199 -->
00:49:49.679No, I don't know.
00:49:49.920 -->
00:49:50.159All right.
00:49:50.239 -->
00:49:53.920So if you've never heard of the term pige or pig or pidge.
00:49:54.639 -->
00:49:57.599Pig butchering, it's exactly as awful as it sounds.
00:49:58.159 -->
00:50:01.519The scammer spends weeks, sometimes months building a relationship with someone.
00:50:02.159 -->
00:50:03.199They text with them every day.
00:50:03.360 -->
00:50:07.599They ask about their family, they become a friend, a mentor, and sometimes even a romantic interest.
00:50:08.239 -->
00:50:11.360Then one day they introduce an amazing investment opportunity.
00:50:12.079 -->
00:50:17.519The victim invests a little, sees fake profits, invests more, and eventually loses everything.
00:50:18.639 -->
00:50:20.159That's why this story hits differently.
00:50:20.239 -->
00:50:22.320This isn't a cyber attack against a company.
00:50:22.480 -->
00:50:31.199It's a story about lonely people, retirees, widows, and everyday folks who f thought that they had found someone online that really cared about them.
00:50:31.760 -->
00:50:34.480Instead, they found a scammer with a script.
00:50:34.639 -->
00:50:45.760And according to investigators, marketplaces like Should Be Guarantee helped make these scams easier by selling everything criminals needed from fake investment sites to money laundering services.
00:50:46.480 -->
00:50:50.559Turns out criminals figures how to weaponize all of it.
00:50:50.880 -->
00:50:51.920All of this was on Telegram.
00:50:52.239 -->
00:50:52.800Just copy that.
00:50:53.280 -->
00:50:58.960You can literally go into Shouldn't be Guarantee's Telegram page and ask for these services, and they would provide you these services.
00:50:59.199 -->
00:51:02.159Come on down to Should be where prices are insane.
00:51:02.639 -->
00:51:03.679Well, here's the nugget.
00:51:03.840 -->
00:51:06.480Be careful of the people online who seem too perfect.
00:51:06.800 -->
00:51:08.480Real relationships take time.
00:51:08.960 -->
00:51:16.239Real investments don't require urgency, and your soulmate probably isn't teaching you crypto trading three days after saying hello.
00:51:16.639 -->
00:51:22.239Sometimes the biggest cybersecurity threat isn't a hacker, it's someone who knows exactly what you want to hear.
00:51:22.400 -->
00:51:24.800I got some tips about dealing with folks like this.
00:51:26.400 -->
00:51:29.679When I was computer dating, I got these all the time.
00:51:30.000 -->
00:51:30.320Okay.
00:51:30.880 -->
00:51:35.840And the best way, the best way of doing it is just know that they're not real.
00:51:36.000 -->
00:51:36.320Okay.
00:51:36.559 -->
00:51:41.280And then say stuff that they have to agree with.
00:51:41.599 -->
00:51:46.960And then keep them on until they just get so frustrated that they stop emailing you.
00:51:47.280 -->
00:51:47.519Okay.
00:51:47.599 -->
00:51:48.960So that's indeed the way to do it.
00:51:49.280 -->
00:51:50.000It's really fun.
00:51:50.239 -->
00:51:50.880It's really fun.
00:51:51.039 -->
00:51:57.599I kept a scammer going for three days about the the card scam.
00:51:57.679 -->
00:52:01.599It was a card scam where they they uh ask you for a Walmart card.
00:52:01.840 -->
00:52:02.880Okay, you're like a card.
00:52:04.719 -->
00:52:05.039Okay.
00:52:05.280 -->
00:52:07.440And I was like, hey, I've got ten thousand dollars.
00:52:07.599 -->
00:52:08.800I can just send you a card right now.
00:52:08.960 -->
00:52:11.360Because they give you this this little sob story about it.
00:52:11.599 -->
00:52:20.239Oh, I I I'm an American, I'm a nurse, I was I was sent to Afghanistan, and now I'm stranded here in Afghanistan.
00:52:22.079 -->
00:52:27.760I I need I need money to get back to the States and I love you, and all this other they do this whole big shtick.
00:52:27.920 -->
00:52:28.400Yeah.
00:52:28.719 -->
00:52:34.480And I kept this one going for three days by saying, Oh, I can s I can send you a ten thousand dollars Walmart card.
00:52:34.719 -->
00:52:40.159And they're like, No, no, I don't want a ten, I just need I just need ten dollars for a hundred bucks or something.
00:52:40.480 -->
00:52:40.719Right?
00:52:41.039 -->
00:52:41.519Yeah.
00:52:41.840 -->
00:52:46.320And they kept up with me for three days, and then I got a F you.
00:52:46.800 -->
00:52:48.320Oh no, then they then they swear at you.
00:52:48.480 -->
00:52:49.280I always find it interesting.
00:52:50.480 -->
00:52:51.679Yeah, they get all mad at you.
00:52:51.760 -->
00:52:53.679They get mad because you're wasting their time.
00:52:53.840 -->
00:52:54.639Yeah, well, you know what?
00:52:54.719 -->
00:52:57.440Now we need to move, which is not wasting our time.
00:52:57.599 -->
00:52:59.760Our pick of the day, whiskey tastings.
00:53:01.440 -->
00:53:05.360And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings.
00:53:06.079 -->
00:53:08.719Let's see what bubbles to the top.
00:53:09.280 -->
00:53:11.039All right, what do we have here, Mark?
00:53:11.360 -->
00:53:18.480We are drinking the Penelope Project X, finished in a 1964 cognac barrel finish from MGP.
00:53:19.039 -->
00:53:24.400Um, non-age stated, 111 proof, undisclosed mash bill,$65.
00:53:24.880 -->
00:53:26.480Yeah, I'm gonna I mean I 65.
00:53:26.719 -->
00:53:28.239Actually, I'd probably pay more for this.
00:53:28.320 -->
00:53:29.840I'm absolutely a thumbs up.
00:53:29.920 -->
00:53:31.440I really would not pay this.
00:53:31.760 -->
00:53:33.519That statement is not a Nathan statement.
00:53:33.760 -->
00:53:35.119$40 is like where he caps off.
00:53:35.199 -->
00:53:36.079He's like$40 is it.
00:53:36.320 -->
00:53:38.239Oh, this is you are an AI scam.
00:53:38.400 -->
00:53:40.400What do you mean I'm not the real Nathan?
00:53:40.559 -->
00:53:44.559You are not the no that never never did that come out of Nathan Mike.
00:53:44.960 -->
00:53:45.280I love you.
00:53:45.679 -->
00:53:47.760I will pay more dollars, please.
00:53:48.079 -->
00:53:48.400Okay.
00:53:48.719 -->
00:53:49.840I will pay more for this.
00:53:50.000 -->
00:53:50.400No way.
00:53:50.639 -->
00:53:51.119A thumbs up.
00:53:51.199 -->
00:53:52.000I'm giving a thumbs up.
00:53:52.079 -->
00:53:53.280What do you what are you giving here, Mike?
00:53:53.440 -->
00:53:55.440Uh yeah, I'm gonna give it a thumbs up too.
00:53:55.519 -->
00:54:00.320It it had a really kind of weird uh finish, but I liked it.
00:54:00.480 -->
00:54:01.039You liked it.
00:54:01.360 -->
00:54:08.000All right, Mark, this is I would say I would say it's a different finish, and at first it caught me off guard, but then after a while, I love it.
00:54:08.079 -->
00:54:11.280It's so different, it's delicious and so different than anything else out there.
00:54:11.519 -->
00:54:17.039Yeah, I wasn't expecting it when it when I first tasted it, so it took me a few sips to get over it.
00:54:17.119 -->
00:54:23.199Yeah, and I say, Nathan, next time you go down to IKEA, it's not that far to pop over to grab a bottle of this.
00:54:23.519 -->
00:54:24.719Yes, he knows they shop out of the way.
00:54:25.280 -->
00:54:27.920Go get some meatballs and then go and get some new fruit.
00:54:29.360 -->
00:54:32.000That's where Mark and I, hey, Mark and I met up at IKEA.
00:54:32.079 -->
00:54:32.719So let me just tell you.
00:54:34.159 -->
00:54:35.920We found each other at IKEA.
00:54:38.159 -->
00:54:39.360We knew each other already, wasn't it?
00:54:39.599 -->
00:54:40.239We just happened to be there.
00:54:40.559 -->
00:54:41.199No, no, no, no, no.
00:54:41.280 -->
00:54:42.000We knew each other already.
00:54:42.320 -->
00:54:45.199This is the title, this is the title of his new romance comedy.
00:54:45.440 -->
00:54:46.239Is it IKEA?
00:54:46.400 -->
00:54:47.440Yeah, Ike the Ikea.
00:54:47.679 -->
00:54:48.639I met you at IKEA.
00:54:48.800 -->
00:54:49.840I found you in IKEA.
00:54:50.079 -->
00:54:52.000I found you, I found you in the meatballs.
00:54:52.400 -->
00:54:53.119The meatballs.
00:54:53.280 -->
00:54:53.519All right.
00:54:54.000 -->
00:54:56.559It's hard to find anything at IKEA within that store.
00:54:56.880 -->
00:54:57.199It is.
00:54:57.360 -->
00:54:59.360And then you have to go pick it out yourself.
00:54:59.599 -->
00:55:00.400Let alone store.
00:55:00.639 -->
00:55:01.679Let alone a good friend.
00:55:02.000 -->
00:55:03.280It's a whole thing, you know.
00:55:03.440 -->
00:55:09.119You you go there, you get confused while you're there, you buy something, and then you come home and get confused while you're trying to build it.
00:55:09.599 -->
00:55:10.480It's a confusing stuff.
00:55:10.719 -->
00:55:11.920And you got the whiskey to help on the side.
00:55:12.079 -->
00:55:16.159And they and they give you meatballs to make you think that everything's cool.
00:55:16.400 -->
00:55:18.000And they don't write They're hackers.
00:55:18.800 -->
00:55:20.079They don't write any instructions.
00:55:20.239 -->
00:55:22.559All right, Mike and Mark, we're about out of time.
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