Swing Thoughts 320 for June 12, 2026

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Let's do it. That's right.
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It's the brand new Swing Thoughts theme. Do you miss
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Sulton's of swing. I'm sorry that you do. Yeah, it's great.
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We have you know, we have people on every once
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in a while from from over there on the other
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side of the pond who like, oh wow, love the
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fact that you're playing as song.
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Yeah.
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Well, we can't do it anymore because we we want
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people to be able to access this podcast and this pod.
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This podcast.
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Yeah, as limited as that is, there are people that
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actually want to access this podcast and this podcast is
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called Swing.
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Thoughts, and welcome to it everybody.
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Now. I'm, of course golf Spiritual leader along with coach
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Tim O'Connor, and this program is baked fresh each week
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during the golfing season of which we are in full swing,
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brought to you by Taylor Made QI four d drivers
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their fastest, most fittable drivers.
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Yet It's time to find you a new fast okay,
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and I did yesterday. I just want to let you know.
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So I got fitted finally for my new Qi.
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Four D driver. And so you want up to the
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laboratory the tailor made lab Yeah and Lowly Vaughan, Ontario.
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Yeah, and I got fitted by Jared Diele if I'm
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saying his last now correctly, great guy. With all due
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respect to the younger guys there. It was nice to
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get fitted by guy who also has white in his beard. Anyways,
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I hadn't been fitted for two years, I guess, right, Yeah,
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and wow, it's just such a cool experience. So it
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was really fun and to cut to the chase as
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you experienced, kind sir, just like through the numbers. Yes,
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hitting into a screen, but with the data, just getting
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fitted and putting the damn thing in the bag ten
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extree yards.
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Just crazy. Oh, I know, it's wild.
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Two things that I saw I remembered from the fitting
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I did earlier in the year.
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One was the miles per hour.
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It went up like two or three miles per hours
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around six to eight seven yards. But it's the ball speed,
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the speed at which the ball comes off that club
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was definitely a bigger leap than I remember or I
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recall from the year to year fittings. And I think
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when you get a chance to hit it outdoors or
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out of doors, I.
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Think you'll I think you'll see the same thing.
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Yes, yeah, I just it was a reminder of what
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a cool experience that is, I mean on every I
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think on every serious golfers bucket list got to go
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through a fitting at least once. It's such an interesting experience.
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It's cool to see the data when you're working with
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a guy who really knows what he's doing, like like Jared.
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It's just it's fascinating, it's fun. It kind of ticks
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all the boxes when you're a deep golfer.
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Oh yeah, when you're a golfer and you get to
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go when you go inside their lab, it really is
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an unusual fitting. A lot of golfers listening may have
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had a fitting outdoors, like and by the way, look
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for Taylor mate. They're on tour all across southern Ontario
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and in fact all across the country this summer. Look
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for those notices you get at your club when Taylor
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Made is on the property and you get a chance
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to hit some balls outdoors. It's a great experience. Similar
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the lab experience is a little bit elevated, only because
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you're just enveloped in all the technology exactly on the
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show today, it's just Tim and I. This last few
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weeks our schedulele I got a note from my buddy
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Grant it's like, what's going on? There was no swing
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thoughts last week. Everyone just everybody just calmed down. GSL.
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It's just too many. There's too many tournaments, too many days,
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and a little foreshadowing.
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Too many disappointments. Oh but in the meantime, so we're
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going to get to that.
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Also a couple of I'm surprising Tim with this question
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because I didn't give Tim any notice that I was
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going to ask him. But I thought this week, because
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it's the Canadian Open week, I would ask Tim that's you,
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by the way, but I'm talking to the other people
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right now. I would ask Tim because Tim covered golf
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for a living, uh for quite a while, and I
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would wonder if you have some of yours. I just
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want to hear a couple of your Canadian Open memories.
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And I have a story of something that happened to
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me at the Canadian Open.
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Okay, yeah you want to we'll get right into it.
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That's coming up. That's coming up in the show. That's
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that's later. See, that's why you do this.
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This is your you know, it's a little a little
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bit of a teaser for the folks.
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That's what people.
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Yeah, that's like if they don't like this part, they
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can just fast forward to the part where it's you
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talking about the Canadian Open and me just crying in
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my beer.
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Uh okay, can.
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Maybe just explain to our good folks who are watching
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on YouTube what this nonsense behind me is?
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Ohn?
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That's right, Tim's why I'm here, And Tim's on in
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his normal place. Uh, and or using your microphone.
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That's right. I'm in my basement of my house.
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We had the broad Loom uh change, new broad Loom
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put in our second floor, so it's like moving. You
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have to take everything from that second floor out off
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the second floor, so our bathrooms. For a couple of days,
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this jam was shit. And so behind this screen here
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is freaking chaos, piles of books and stuff.
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So I just thought I would explain that for context.
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Broad loom is carpet, right, Yes.
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It's that it's broadroom, like an American word or something.
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I don't know.
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It's like American is we say, we say cutlery in Canada,
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they say down south flatware.
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Okay, but but back to Broadway garbage they say trash.
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Okay, But but I didn't when you said broadwoom, I
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was pretty sure it was carpet, but i'd be honest.
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You could say carpet. I was absolutely yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I wasn't one hundred percent that it was carpet. I'm
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just being honest, and maybe it's a fail of my own.
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But when you said broad Loom, I thought it was
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something that's different than carpet.
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What did you think it was?
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I had a couple of guesses. I thought maybe broad
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Loom is like new hardwood or something. It's like another
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name for hardwood. I was pretty listen. I'm going to
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say for the record, that was ninety nine percent sure
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it was carpet, but because you called it, because wait,
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a second before the show, you told me it was
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broad Loom. Now during the recording, you're telling me it's
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broad Loom. I just didn't want to be I probably
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would have gotten carpet on a multiple choice, but I
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wanted you to y, well, so you have the carpet
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changed on your second floor.
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We did, Yes, we did. It's exciting. Oh wait, I
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can tell it's exciting because we're spending so nice on
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the feet too. It feels very it feels plush.
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I know it's exciting because we're talking about it and
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I'm excited.
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Yes, we have two segments on our show. Things we've
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said before and inane stupid.
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Things that we've all that we have. We have more
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fit that bill. We have more than two categories, I
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promise you.
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Let's before we get to some golfy stuff. Now, A
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lot of people know that have been listening to us
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for over a decade that Tim is an elder in
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the Royals you know this white Yep, he's an elder
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in the Royal Order of water Buffaloes.
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And a couple.
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And sometimes he and his neighbor Barney put on the
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water buffalo helmets and they get together and they, you know,
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they do a bunch of stuff.
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I don't know what they do. I know I know
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they do. They change They change each other's broad looms.
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That's right, right.
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So it's called the Mankind Project. Tim has been leading
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some of the weekends over the last twenty plus years.
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And you just came back from one. Explain maybe quickly
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what a Mankind Project is for new STDs and what
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was taking place this weekend.
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Well, so, Mankind Project is worldwide, secular nonprofit organization of
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men around the world. I think there's about eighty eighty
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five thousand of us that have been members initiated into
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this thing since nineteen eighty five. And so I use
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that word initiated intentionally because we go through this process.
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The way you gain entrance, if you will, into the
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Mankind Project is through a weekend called the New Warrior
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Training Adventure, And we just had one in New London,
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Ontario on this past weekend. It was the thirtieth time
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that I have been a staffer on these things. So
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it's a process driven weekend. You come in on Friday
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and you're out Sunday.
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And you're a new man.
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And just the idea of it is this is for
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men who are looking for say, you know, they feel
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stuck in their lives. They just kind of not feel
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maybe muted in what they do. They're they're seeking new direction,
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just want they want more of themselves. And so the
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weekend helps men to become say emotionally literate, or at
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least begin the process of becoming more so, to become
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more mindful of their impacts on the world and just
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really bring it down. It's just you know, learning how
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to be a better dude, you know, better as say
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a father, a partner, community member, work, or just more
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vibrant in your in your own life. And so a
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lot of our our STDs might be wondering, what the
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hell does this have to do with playing golf?
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Well, I would say a ton.
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And so one of the things that I experienced on
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the on that weekend is there's just a greater connection
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to feelings. And when you talk with most men, feelings
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are kind of like bodily fluids, you like, get.
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Them the hell out of here. I don't have anything.
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To do with feelings, but for golfers, I think it's
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massive in terms of our ability to play this game
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because the game, at the end of the day, is
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a it's a physical game. You're you're using a club
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to hit a ball to a target. All of that
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is physical, including your body, and of course there's all
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the mental parts of things that go on in our
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emotions that get involved. But feeling means feeling what's going
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on largely in your body, because that's where we feel
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feel feel things. And if you don't, if you're not
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connected to what's happening in your body, well, playing this
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game is really difficult.
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So how let me throw it back to you.
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Well, I just wanted to ask a question, But go
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ahead and throw throw first. Then I will ask a question.
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So, how cognizant are you when you play golf to
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what's happening in your body?
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Say? How tense you might feel what's going on?
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Say you know the old cliche butterflies in your in
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your stomach or you you know, you make a double
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and then a bogie and you find yourself fuming on
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a te So how conscious are are you of what
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goes on in your body and how that connects to
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your feeling.
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I'll answer that question first, young man, But first I
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have a question, Howard Glasswin the Independent?
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Uh is this was? Uh? Was this your first?
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I'll get to the I will answer your question, but
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I was curious and maybe I know the answer. Was
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this your first weekend since the passing of your son?
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Yes? It was? Yes, Thank you for asking?
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Did that have? Did that have? Did that bring up
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anything different?
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Was that? Did it make the weekend different?
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Did?
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Were you around this community?
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They are these some of the people that know and
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this is the first time you've seen them?
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Yes? How is that for you?
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It was a difficult weekend. Of the thirty times that
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I've staffed, it was the most difficult. I can imagine,
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hard to be present. Yeah, I could imagine.
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Did the weekend?
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I was I was going to say, your other son
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went with you to this weekend. No, okay, I'm.
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Sorry, Sean has not gone. And it's a little bit
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more information.
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That Okay, that's fine, but Corey to share. But Corey
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did the weekend. Corey did the weekend.
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That's cool.
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By the way, for Corey's the sun that passed away,
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So that must have So I can imagine having gone
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to these before over your lifetime, this might have been
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the most difficult.
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within me and I didn't even know what was going.
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On, I can imagine, so it was hard to So
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I played.
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I played a largely kind of a secondary role. And
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what I usually do is someone who's a senior man
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in our in our community.
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As happens on this sort of journey of grief.
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Dramatic, but I no, no, but it is exactly what
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you are and it's a it's a journey of grief.
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And by the way, just to point out, and maybe
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didn't notice, but you and I are senior man in
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almost any community we walk into these days. Yes, it's
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there's there's very few communities I walk into. I'm like,
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I think I'm a senior man here. I'm pretty sure
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I'm the oldest person in this room. Yes, but I
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don't want to listen. I don't want to belabor it.
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Not not to belabor it, but to but I wanted
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to acknowledge it. I did think that when you told me,
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prior to hitting a record that you had gone to
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the weekend, I thought, I wonder if this is.
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The first one. So yeah, thank you.
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So to answer your question about feelings, I think I
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think when when I'm over a golf ball in terms
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of how I feel in my body. And you know,
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I think the the physical motion of hitting a golf
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ball isn't the thing that gets interrupted, because you know
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that old thing about you take your car to the mechanic,
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but on the day you take it, nothing seems wrong
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with it, or on the day you get your hair cut,
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your hair just looks.
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Great that day.
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You know, whenever we hit a poor shot or a
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shot that doesn't turn out the way we want it to,
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it's rarely in that moment of in that moment of
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activity hitting the golf ball, it's rarely a mechanical issue,
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do you know what I mean?
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And so totally.
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Because if you stepped away, like you hit a poor shot,
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you fin it, you do something. But if you stepped
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away and put another ball down immediately, you know that
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old thing about you know the player too, or player
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the second golf my phrase is second ball tour pro, Yes, exactly,
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do you know all of us? And I think most
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people listen and understand that that you know, you hit
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a t shot that looks like it's in trouble or
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rut a bounds, and then you re tee it and
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right away immediately same guy and you stripe it. So
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I think how we feel, and I think you ask
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a good question the connection to the way, the access
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to our present tense, and I put tents in there
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because that's what it is. Sometimes when we are in
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the moment of executing a shot, we are in the
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present tense. We're not present, correct, And so I would
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answer your question by saying that for the most part,
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my motion, my physical activity is often on autopilot, meaning
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that I'm not really thinking about exactly how to hit
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a golf ball. But I can tell you on the
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shots that don't turn out, and believe me, lately a
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lot of them, have a lot of them, haven't. I
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can step back after and think, you know, I wasn't
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really there, I wasn't really absorbing everything.
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And I'm not sure if that answers your question. But
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I think the.
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More in touch with the more in touch with being
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present versus present tense, the better things work out.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely, you see our Whenever you talk about feelings, you know,
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the average.
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Guy goes, oh my god, ick.
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But you.
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Feel your feelings feel as in the true meaning of
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the word, like sensation. You feel your feelings in your body.
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So when you feel tense, as you you just alluded to,
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you might feel that your maybe your hands are or
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you got a white knuckle grip on the club. Just
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feel tension and say your forearms or your shoulders. A
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lot of us carry our tension in our shoulders, especially
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in our jaw.
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I mean, we just kind of tighten up.
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And so if you're not aware of what's going on
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at that moment, then you cannot respond. And often what's
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going on within you that feeling connected to the thinking
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we get into the cycle of things, particularly it doesn't
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go well.
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You make a double bogie.
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Oh my god, the round was going so great, and
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then you make a bogey.
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Oh this this.
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Game is in the toilet. I'm done. So you could
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either go swing to sadness and resignation, loss of focus,
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or anger. But if you're not aware of what's going on,
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then you cannot respond. That's why a lot of people
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you end up kind of on this what we'll call
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the train, and I can't get off, and they just
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golf was fun for a little bit, having a good time,
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and suddenly they're elevated.
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But the problem is most of us is I'm only laughing.
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I'm only laughing because it's like it's funny we say
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it out loud. Golf was fun for a while, and
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now this, yeah, to please continue.
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Yeah, but see, most of us just live in our heads.
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We just kind of like to a line here, and
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we're in our heads and think this thought and it's
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going great, and if I do this with my back
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swinging and whatnot, and you know, on this many.
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Overpart we're in our heads completely.
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And when we're in our heads thinking, thinking, thinking, we're
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disconnected from our body, and it's the body that connects
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mostly to subconscious thoughts, all that stuff that the mental chatter,
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that's that's going on, and that dictates how you're going
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to swing.
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Yeah, I think a lot of people listening are over
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the fact that we talk about feelings on this show.
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I really I think if you're if if the few
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people that listen to this, I think they they they're
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listening to it because they think they think similarly to
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well to.
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The way that we think about golf. They think very
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I'll challenge, I'll challenge. There's what we think and there's
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what we do. And I would say that the majority.
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Of men still and you know, I think that sometimes
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I thought maybe the younger guys are more enlightened.
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I don't.
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I don't really think so. I'm not still conditioned. We're
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still conditioned to think that big boys don't cry. No, no,
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your emotions, you're weak time. I'm not arguing about that
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that the general male population. No, No, absolutely, I totally
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agree with you. I totally agree with you that most
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men are suffering lives of quiet desperation.
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Then they never talk about why they feel poorly.
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I was only just interest, but I didn't want to
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take that discussion anywhere, but to interject that our audience
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are the type of men and women you know that
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that get that this is a conversation that's okay to have.
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That's all I would saying.
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I totally, my totally agree with you that most guys
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I run into have no idea why they're upset.
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Oh yeah, and I would I would say that most
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of our STDs probably do not connect with their bodies
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to the point one beneficial for their game.
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Yeah, if you go back and listen, I'm not arguing
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with anything you said, other than the fact that I
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think our audience has identified us as guys that it's
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okay to have these conversations with regular guys that I
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play with are just you know, flipping out and feeling.
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The thing is, I feel bad right now, but I know,
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I I know why I do. It's just that sometimes
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when I'm in it and we're going to get to it,
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sometimes when I'm in it, it feels like.
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Heaviness. That's just crazy that.
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I feel this way, because golf really isn't it's not
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it's not life or death.
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But my brain doesn't know that. Absolutely. That's such a
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that's such a truth.
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I mean, our brain still works on antiquated hardware. Yeah,
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the hardware our brains have is still based on you know,
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hundreds of thousands of years ago, when you being hyper
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sensitive to a noise or thinking about a threat could
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keep you alive.
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Yeah, danger, ment, death, Yeah exactly.
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But that's unfortunately, that's still how we interpret things. Things
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happen and it's like oh no, and suddenly heartbreak goes up,
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breath gets shallow, cortisol into the bloodstream, blood starts to
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go from you know, our extremities like our hands, to
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the core of you know, fight flight freeze, and you
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cannot play golf when you're in that state.
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And what happens to golfers. You know, I'm sure we've
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had parts of this discussion. But physiologically, what happens the
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slow part of our brain, the survival part of our brain,
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sees that it doesn't understand and that water left out
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of bounds, right, isn't the same threat as a sabertoothed
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tigers unto about to leap on us and eat our family.
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But you know what I mean.
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So that's why all those physiological changes that Tim says described,
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that's exactly what happens to us. And the way to
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the way to sort of prick that balloon or or
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fight through it is to do the thing that most
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golfers don't do when threat is a parent or presents itself,
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I should say, is most golfers, myself included, sometimes speed up.
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That's why those holes where you make, you know, a
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big number at triple bogey, a quadruple bogey seems to
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happen so fast because you really weren't there totally. You
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were you were somewhere else. And but the antidote to
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what we're describing as as we found out on this
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program over a decade, is to stop, is to just.
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Be where your body is.
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Easy to say, sometimes hard to do, and it takes
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a bit of courage sometimes to even a simple thing.
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You know, I've had this discussion with you many times
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about I know I'm in a pretty good place mentally
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when I'll step back from a shot and it's a
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We've we've discussed how it can be a bit embarrassing.
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It can be embarrassed or you feel self conscious when
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you're over the ball. Something doesn't feel right and you
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step away and all your buddies are like you know
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what is this by the way, US Open next week?
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Uh yeah, people, But to step away when you're uncomfortable
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is a small act of of being your own, being
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your own champion, championing your own emotions, right yeah. And
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I don't always do it, I mean, and I know
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when I When I do do it, though, it interrupts
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that And I'll tell you the hardest time to do
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it is when you're in the middle of a really
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bad hole, which I and you know, I had one
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of those in a tournament recently and I look back
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on it and I'm like, you know, if I were
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playing better at the time at the chaos happened, I
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know I would have played that hole differently.
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But I was in.
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Such a state of fuck this, you know. I think
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we all got to that stage and on the stage
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of ah, fuck this shit exactly, and I just did
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not pay attention to the following shots that happened the
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same way I was if I were not in that mode.
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It's a tough thing to do.
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Well there you are, I mean, paying attention. That's really
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the thing right there. So there's a couple of a
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words attention where you paying attention and awareness and am
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I your honey. That was that was interesting.
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I came right through. That was always good. How was that?
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That was very nice? I can hear you know, I can.
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That's where you're cope to be warmed up too.
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That's uh, that's you know what I'm I'm you are,
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my honey. But I'm just trying to think there's a
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setting wrong that you shouldn't have been able to hear that.
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Oh I see what.
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Well, this entire wait, this entire first part of the show,
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my microphone has been coming through.
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The the computer.
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It's been recorded and and and the ad. It's funny
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because you're you're not on a microphone right now, and
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I have been. But I realize this now because you
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heard that that it's coming through the computer. So I
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apologize to everybody. If there's been Uh, it's a it's
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a weird. It'll be fine. We don't need to re
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re record it. But yeah, that's what just happened.
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What was interesting is that for the first ten minutes
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of us doing the show, I went, it sounds really
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different today, and I wondered if it was just you know,
493
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:55.039
because of my situation what I'm doing.
494
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:58.240
But yeah, okay, So that answers that to solve, and
495
00:26:58.279 --> 00:26:59.920
that will that will be in that forever.
496
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:01.839
One who just heard the first twenty seven minutes and
497
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.279
wondered why we both sound like we're off, Mike, it's
498
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.559
because of that. I just didn't change mine over. Isn't
499
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:12.880
that weird anyway? Thank you, honey. That's I'm just gonna
500
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:13.519
finish my thought.
501
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:17.319
Mike Darling would say, I never I always finish a
502
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:23.440
freaking story, no matter how boring it is so or
503
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.319
how many times I've told the same fucking story a
504
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:31.440
million times. So awards attention awareness, So what are we
505
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:32.359
paying attention to?
506
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.720
And usually it's just thoughts. It's like, oh my god,
507
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.119
what the hell is going on? I can't I've forgotten
508
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:40.519
how to play golf. This ground's in the dumper. I
509
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.839
don't care. But then it takes awareness of what's going on.
510
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.599
It's it's like, oh shit, I'm I'm caught right now.
511
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.240
I'm I'm feeling angry. I just you know, I want
512
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.200
to throw my club in the farmer's field. I'm caught
513
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.319
in this. That's the skill. That's the skill of a
514
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:02.759
higher level golf is having awareness of where we're at
515
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.920
and all it takes is no magic. It's just noticing.
516
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.119
It's just noticing what's going on. You can just like
517
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.400
check in with your body, go okay, you could be like, what.
518
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.880
Am I thinking about right now? What am I feeling
519
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:17.559
in my body?
520
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:23.200
And that automatically creates change. Awareness is curative and to
521
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:27.480
use the phrase you've used, it automatically lowers the temperature
522
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:31.920
because you're now aware of what's happening. And now to
523
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.759
get kind of brainy on you, that's when our frontal
524
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:39.440
cortex comes back online and now we can think what's
525
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:45.039
happening because before we're trapped in this reptilian reaction, you know,
526
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.720
as if the saber tooth tiger tiger is chasing us,
527
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:48.680
we're running like help.
528
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.920
Yeah, And that's that's again the genius of our brain
529
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:59.039
is that it's there to react to threats, to threats
530
00:28:59.079 --> 00:28:59.680
and danger.
531
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.400
And that's why there is a negative bias.
532
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.480
I mean, we're all fighting against totally you know, millions
533
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:11.200
of years of evolution to keep us to survival. You know,
534
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.880
in our survival instinct is to see things in a
535
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.200
negative way. You know, it's the uh, it's why if
536
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.440
you were kicked out of your village and you were
537
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.279
on your own, you know, back in the day you
538
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:24.240
died because you need other people.
539
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:25.640
But there's always that thing.
540
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.759
It's like, if I don't know you, I don't like
541
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:31.359
you because you're from the other tribe. That's right, Let's
542
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.559
segue if we can, because there's a bunch of stuff
543
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.799
I wanted to get to, including the fact that I'm
544
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.279
mired in some kind of golf funk. But I wanted
545
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.559
to get to the Canadian Open, which is on this week.
546
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.799
It's it's been years since I've been on the property
547
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:48.759
wherever it's been.
548
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.400
I got invited to go today. I don't know. I
549
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:54.799
don't know about you, like I know this sounds, I
550
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:59.319
don't know whatever it's going to sound. We've both been lucky.
551
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.319
We both have had access to events, golf events, especially
552
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:05.240
that other people would be like, oh.
553
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:08.559
I can't believe you turned it down. But I myself.
554
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:13.079
Don't love being on a golf course during a golf tournament.
555
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.559
I like a day like maybe a practice round or
556
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.000
or the first round, but as far as enjoying the
557
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:22.240
tournament experience, it's not.
558
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.720
It's weirdly not my favorite way. You know. It's funny
559
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.400
because seeing a football.
560
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.720
Game in person has a quality of it that you
561
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.240
can't get on TV. But I think the reverse is
562
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.640
true for golf tournaments, because when you're watching it on television,
563
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.359
you're getting a whole picture. When you're watching it in person,
564
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.519
it's great. If you've never seen a tour excuse me,
565
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.319
a tour player play up close, it's great, But you
566
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:49.160
and I both have and you know that they it's
567
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.400
more about at this age.
568
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.359
Speaking of the senior man.
569
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.640
You know the hassle of getting there, getting on a shuttle,
570
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:58.240
in all of that. So I got invited to today
571
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:02.319
and I didn't go to Ausbrey. The TPC is TBC
572
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:06.480
Osprey now is the venue that's hosting this particular Canadian Open.
573
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:11.319
All that being said, do you have a particular memory
574
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.640
of covering the Open over the years and in anything
575
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.720
that you might have you know, encountered or something you witnessed.
576
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.519
Do you mean like the playing, like what happened like
577
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:24.920
on the.
578
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.440
Course, or just you as a guy covering it and
579
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:31.480
anything that you know sticks out over the years.
580
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:35.680
Well, okay, I should say straight off, whenever I get
581
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:40.039
asked that question, I automatically think of watching Tiger Woods
582
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.680
hit that I think it was a six iron out
583
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:47.319
of the bunker on eighteen. Yes, playing against Grant Waite.
584
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:50.480
He hits this shot and don't know where it goes.
585
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:53.440
I look at the flag and then like zot right
586
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:53.880
behind it.
587
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.799
It's like, were you all my property for that?
588
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:58.960
I was straight across. I was on the other side
589
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.640
of the ferryway from Tiger I had. I was inside the.
590
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:02.359
Rope on eighteen.
591
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:06.000
Yeah, yeah, on eighteen and it was just like, Wow,
592
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.119
I just witnessed one of the greatest shots. And maybe
593
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.039
you know in the history of the Canadian Open, let
594
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:13.279
alone tournament.
595
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.799
Golf, so you had the sense when that when you
596
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:18.000
saw him it's too eighteen from that bunker. I know
597
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:21.039
him because I've tried it. Everybody's trying it, and so
598
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.119
you could see like you had a sense as soon
599
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:24.799
as you saw that that was something special.
600
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.880
Well, I mean, so he hits the shot and then
601
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.079
I lose it in the sky, and so I just do.
602
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:33.359
What I always do when that happens.
603
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.880
I just look at the flag and and I just
604
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.279
see it becauzot about you know, fifteen feet behind it,
605
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:42.759
and it was like, oh my god, you know, because
606
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.839
the because the flag was cut right, So you got
607
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.720
water front water to the right and in the moment,
608
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.240
I mean I think that at that moment he was
609
00:32:53.319 --> 00:33:00.440
either tied with Grant Weight or one ahead. And so anyways,
610
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.440
it was just like i'd never seen some of every
611
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:06.599
other person you never see in that situation be hit
612
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:07.400
in to the middle of Oh.
613
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.319
Absolutely, what a shot to be present for. When I
614
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.839
when I wrote down, can open memories for you, I
615
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.480
didn't know you were on You were on the eighteenth
616
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:18.400
fairway when Tiger hit that shot.
617
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:19.839
How cool is that? Dude?
618
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:20.200
Oh?
619
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:24.079
It was. It was very very cool. Yeah. And here's
620
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:25.039
here's the other.
621
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.599
Tiger memory I have is uh, so I covered the
622
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.880
very fortunate I got to cover seven or eight Masters
623
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:38.960
golf tournaments wow, for the CBC radio. And so in
624
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:45.720
ninety seven Tigers it's his first major. And so I'm
625
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.680
in the press room watching on TV like every other journalist.
626
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.079
But as he's coming to eighteen green, I said, I
627
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:52.119
have to be out there.
628
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.599
I have to experience this. This is the final round.
629
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.440
This is the final round, and you know he's leading
630
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:01.960
by I can't remember it is a twelve shots one body. Yeah,
631
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.160
So I go by and I try to get sort
632
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.279
of near the green. I'm you know, probably one hundred
633
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.199
yards away from it. But here's the thing that I
634
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.239
noticed most is that all the servers from the clubhouse, yes,
635
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:19.280
of course, all of whom are black. There's there are
636
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.239
they're lined up against the railing of this on the
637
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.079
second floor, watching, and there's and others are like all
638
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:31.239
behind the clubhouse watching. There's tears coming down the faces
639
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:35.360
of these people. And it was just a phenomenal moment.
640
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.159
And all I could think of was just like all
641
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.199
the hair on my arm, like standing up. It was
642
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:45.760
like an electric moment. And you know, I couldn't see what,
643
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.360
of course was going on. Didn't matter is there was
644
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:53.559
no drama in him winning, but that was just this
645
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.199
was a this is bigger than golf.
646
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:57.159
Yeah, for him to win like.
647
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:03.960
That, because still then, especially Augusta National was still the
648
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:05.079
symbol of the old South.
649
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.960
Yeah, well they imaging, I don't.
650
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:12.440
I mean, they had allowed there had been some black
651
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:16.000
golfers as members by the time.
652
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.639
I could be wrong, You're incorrect.
653
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.639
Really there was no they hadn't had a black golfer
654
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.800
as a member. No, because CONDOLLI because I remember when
655
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.079
Condolle's or Rice got invited to join.
656
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.079
Oh yeah, but that's like that even early too, that
657
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:30.559
might even be two thousands.
658
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.679
Yeah, you're you're you're probably yeah, you're right. So by
659
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.480
in ninety seven there were still no black members of Augusta.
660
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.800
No, no, there was no. I'm pretty damn sure.
661
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:42.400
I know you're one hundred percent right. It was definitely
662
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.360
transcended the game of golf. It was the it was
663
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:50.639
one of those inflection points in the sport m and
664
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:55.360
long after it's for long after Tigers. Well, it will
665
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:59.079
never be forgotten his his achievements, but one of the
666
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:03.559
legacies that he'll always be associated with is that, yeah
667
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.639
is the statement. And I've heard that story about the
668
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.480
all day the waiters and their servers and all the
669
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.199
workers that came to watch something they thought would never happen,
670
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.920
even in nineteen hundred and ninety seven, which to you
671
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.280
and I hasn't seen that long ago, but to younger people,
672
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.760
and you know, that's like that's like our parents talking
673
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:23.639
about the forties.
674
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:25.440
Yeah, exactly.
675
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.960
That's when my son Sean was one year old. So yeah,
676
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:35.920
that was that was phenomenal. The my other top Canadian
677
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.880
open memory. It didn't end.
678
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.920
Well, but those are some of the best stories though. Well,
679
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.840
it was when Mike Weir and VJ Say got into
680
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:46.679
a playoff. Yeah.
681
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:50.679
Yeah, that was sad, and of course everybody's excited and
682
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:56.440
what was interested Just as sort of a footnote, I
683
00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:02.159
think it was on Yeah, I think it was on seventeen.
684
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.960
They both hit and won. I think VJ pulled his
685
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.440
shot and so Lauren Ruberstin goes to sit down and
686
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.840
he almost sits on. VJ sings golf ball and well Lauren,
687
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:18.599
So anyways, it was just it was just one of
688
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.760
those things. It's like the tension you feel what I
689
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:25.719
felt like watching, you know, the Canadian and US Olympic
690
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.079
hockey games, have so much hope come on and he
691
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:33.840
ended up losing and VJ almost apologize.
692
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:34.719
Yeah, I was gonna say that.
693
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:38.159
I remember VJ in his press conference almost feeling sad
694
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:39.079
because he loves Weird.
695
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:40.039
He's buddies with Weird.
696
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.679
They're on the President's Cup together, and he didn't he
697
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:48.320
really felt weird. I think he felt weird about winning it,
698
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:51.159
especially you know, knowing what that would have meant to
699
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:51.760
the country.
700
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:52.960
Yeah.
701
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:56.199
Yeah, you know, it just makes me think, do you
702
00:37:56.239 --> 00:38:01.440
know anybody who was on property. When Nick Taylor's something
703
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.440
like the big seventy foot or whatever it was eagle
704
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:06.719
putt to win the Canadian Open a couple of years ago, I.
705
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:10.000
Do know I got to think that that must do something.
706
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.320
Oh my goodness. Although I just played there, we could
707
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:15.079
go today.
708
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:19.960
We were my senior Ryder Cup team got invited to
709
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.000
go play there. It's not in an actual match, but
710
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.159
just it's Oakdale, right, it's Oakdale. And some of the
711
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:27.480
guys that there was two foursomes and some of the
712
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.159
guys in my in my from my club had never
713
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:30.960
played there before.
714
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:32.480
And I've been lucky.
715
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.400
I've been playing there every year for over a decade
716
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.159
in the Ontario Better Ball. But we got to the
717
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:43.480
Nick Taylor hole and everyone, of course, you know, trying
718
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:47.039
the pot and you know it's it's it's not a flat.
719
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.519
It was seventy two feet. It's not a flat seventy
720
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.320
two feet. It rises up and there's some break in it.
721
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:56.840
And you know, I don't think any of us even
722
00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:01.159
two putted it. It's outrageous. It was outrageous how crazy
723
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:01.679
that was for.
724
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:02.119
Him to win.
725
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.440
But back to Glenn Abbey, I want to say, just
726
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.280
you know, I have a couple of you know, I
727
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:14.519
have one Canadian Open memory, but before I get to it, like,
728
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.880
I've been so lucky because the last fifteen years that
729
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.960
I've worked for club Link, the first five years, I
730
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:26.199
lived eight minutes from the driving race, ten minutes sorry
731
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:30.239
eight minutes, eight minutes from the parking lot at glen Abbey,
732
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:32.440
and another five minutes by the time I could get
733
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.079
to the range. And I spent a lot of time
734
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.760
there and I always felt like sort of weird. It
735
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.960
was such a great thing for me because here I
736
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.159
was this famous golf course in Canada.
737
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You know.
738
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:46.679
My brother's out west were.
739
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.400
Like, you can get to play the you know, the
740
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.920
Canadian Open Course. I used to go there practice for
741
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.880
a couple hours, and then at four thirty five in
742
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.079
the afternoon, when all the corporate tournaments were done, I
743
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.880
just drive around glenn Abbey and just hit shots like
744
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:01.719
it was crazy.
745
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.599
You know, I've tried I've tried that tiger shot.
746
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.960
We did a I do some videos for club Link,
747
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.280
and we did a video last year for me playing
748
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.920
the eighteenth hole at glenn Abbey. It was kind of
749
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.119
this little funny thing that we did, and of course
750
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.400
I'm trying the I'm trying the shot over and over again.
751
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.199
I don't I think I was hitting forward, no hybrid.
752
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:26.360
I was hitting hybrid out of there. By my point
753
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:28.639
about glenn Abbey is it's the fact that I've had,
754
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:33.159
had had access to it has always been such a
755
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:34.719
I will use the word blessing.
756
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:36.239
Very lucky.
757
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.880
Yeah, very lucky that I had access to it. My
758
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:41.960
one Canadian open memory though, is as a media guy,
759
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.719
I got invited. This is like when I'm still a
760
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:48.400
guy on the radio and got invited to participate in
761
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:54.280
a media long drive contest. And I was like, okay,
762
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.679
this is probably in my thirties when I could still
763
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.960
hit a golf ball and I would.
764
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:01.559
I didn't realize. And there was a bunch of other
765
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:02.039
media guys.
766
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.079
There's weeks and you know, this guy from TSN and
767
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:09.119
that guy and some newspaper guys and me, and there
768
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.360
was ten of us, and then there was the I
769
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.239
didn't realize when they invited me. I think it was
770
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.559
we were teen off on one at glenn Evy, whatever
771
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:18.800
it was. There's a bunch of people around, so there
772
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.199
was you know, it's practice round day. But I didn't
773
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.639
realize is that the guys that were going to be
774
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.119
sort of judging us or being part of it were
775
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:32.119
Andy North, some other tour player and John Daily. And
776
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:34.400
this is when John Daily was before he became you know,
777
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:35.760
sort of the fat John Daily.
778
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:37.719
You know, he was just sort of crazy John Daily.
779
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.679
Anyway, they were there on that, so I didn't realize
780
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:42.000
they were going to be on I know who else.
781
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.199
So there was Tom Cochran and a bunch of guys
782
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.320
and I got drawn last. So everyone hits, and there's
783
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.039
some guys there that can't hit a golf well, there
784
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.320
was a couple that could kind of swing. And I
785
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:55.880
just remember when it got my turn and I took
786
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.039
a practice swing. Daily and Andy North ayre going well,
787
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.280
we've got to play here, and I was like, oh Jesus,
788
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:05.920
you know, and believe me, I didn't hit it that well.
789
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.280
I managed to neck one out there about two fifteen
790
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:09.039
or two twenty.
791
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:10.320
I think I want it, Bud.
792
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:12.840
I just remember being on the property there thinking this
793
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.320
is again being a kid, you know, growing up out west,
794
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:18.679
and they're being at the Canadian Open site and there's
795
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:22.079
John Day and North anyway.
796
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.079
Cool. So that's the only thing I kind of recall.
797
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:25.800
And the funny thing is, again I got how it
798
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:30.039
startered was I got invited to go today and I
799
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.440
just don't have the Maybe it's the patience thing. I
800
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.000
just don't want to be running around.
801
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:34.519
A golf course.
802
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:36.679
Yes, it's great if you can, you know, you follow
803
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.760
a couple of guys for a few holes, it's fantastic.
804
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:41.840
Well, here's what I would just offer a crick. Here's
805
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:45.960
what I learned about watching a golf tournament is know
806
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:50.119
that you're gonna getting there is a drag.
807
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.119
You're gonna be in a long lineup in the parking
808
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.079
lot getting there, and then you get on the bus.
809
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:56.480
But that can be a fun time.
810
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.159
Yeah, But once you get on property, I would say,
811
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.880
just pick out three golf holes where let's say some
812
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.639
golfers that you want to see will come through, and
813
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.039
you park yourself. You know, I used to park myself
814
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:16.559
at well Behind, which usually number two at Glenn Abbey,
815
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:19.920
and just watch three or four or five groups come through.
816
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.519
And it's kind of like watching a baseball game. You
817
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.320
just kind of get into the rhythm of this of
818
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.119
it and watch them come through and all that, and
819
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.960
you chat with your neighbors your friends and then you
820
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.719
just move on to another spot, and then after about
821
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:38.079
three holes, it's time to eat lunch, drink beer, go home.
822
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:42.599
The last time I did it was a couple of
823
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:46.159
years ago in Mexico at Maya Coba. I went and
824
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.159
I went there specifically because that was the year. I
825
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:52.960
guess it's three winters ago now when Live signed John
826
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:56.599
Rahm and my buddy, my buddy Grant and I wanted
827
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.280
to specifically go and watch him.
828
00:43:58.639 --> 00:43:59.639
We got to see him warm up.
829
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:01.880
The great thing about Live at the time, and I
830
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.519
mentioned this was there weren't very many people on that property.
831
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.800
There might have been three thousand in total, which isn't
832
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:13.280
very many, spread out over eighteen holes, and twenty five
833
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.960
hundred of them were watching John Rahm, Brooks Koepka And
834
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.079
I think Joaking Neman is that his name?
835
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.920
Wo King Naman? No, Yeah, okay, yeah, I think that's it.
836
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.000
Yeah.
837
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.320
But even what you described, it's a bit of a
838
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.280
it's a bit of a it's a bit of a schleft,
839
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.039
you know, to take the bus, go to the shuttle
840
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:32.800
and get on the prom andy.
841
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:33.440
It's a bit, you know.
842
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:36.599
But but that day was worth it because we got
843
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.360
to be so up close with Dustin Johnson and watching
844
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.519
rom you know, warm up and talk.
845
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:44.280
We could just go up and talk to their caddies.
846
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.599
It was really that, you know, for for better or worse,
847
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.760
whatever happens to live. It was a pretty good experience,
848
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:54.280
mainly because there was because there was nobody there. Hey, quickly,
849
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.119
before we start to go to a different subject, I
850
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.519
wanted to mention I got this message and I see
851
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:01.400
it was sent to me.
852
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:07.320
On the seventeenth of March. Oh, and I never read it.
853
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:09.519
I just forgot that it was there, you know, in
854
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.320
one of my different social media This is from Facebook
855
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:20.559
and this is from Queensland, Australia, and it starts Dear
856
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:25.360
GSL have been working backwards through the Swing Thoughts podcasts
857
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:30.079
as an almost sixty year old STD. It has been invaluable.
858
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.639
Thanks to episode one eight, I now have another string
859
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:36.840
in string to bow in the last few minutes you
860
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:43.440
speak about aiming too far right. Thank you Blake from Queensland, Australia.
861
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.599
And then just this morning, in the middle of the night,
862
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:50.280
he sent me a little video and it's a dog.
863
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.760
He's it's a sort of a golden lab you know,
864
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.199
you know the one I'm talking about. Okay, so it's
865
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.440
a dog city sort of in a shallow river, looking
866
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:06.679
in the water. It says he's waiting for the fish
867
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.000
to come out. And Blake's note to me is just
868
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:15.199
like your hole in one, Just like, yeah, I get it, Blake.
869
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.719
I mean, yes, I'm still waiting for a hole in one. Yes,
870
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.079
oh yes, Oh that's funny.
871
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:29.559
Well that is I was. Actually I got out Jim
872
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.480
Flick's book on golf.
873
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:35.519
So Jim Flick, he since passed instructor worked with Nicholas
874
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:39.239
in his later years. He just came back to that
875
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.280
super common thing for most right handers.
876
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:44.239
Your body's aimed right at the target.
877
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:47.159
Yeah, I remember playing with you years ago, and you
878
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:49.000
notice that that's just so folks.
879
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:49.920
If something's wrong.
880
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.599
With the golf swing, just check your alignment. Just check
881
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.880
that your body is not aiming to the right as
882
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:57.840
a right hander or to the left as a lefty.
883
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:06.199
Quickly, I've picked out some more audio from the golf world.
884
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:11.519
I thought that might be beneficial for everybody. I'm just
885
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.360
trying to think about it. This is a certain irishman, is it. No,
886
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:17.519
Actually you know this. I saw some Padrick stuff. No,
887
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.840
this is uh oh Rory No, No, yes, I should
888
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:22.840
I forgot.
889
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.440
Just keep playing the same, just keep playing the same,
890
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:27.119
Rory Cliff.
891
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:28.079
I wish I still had it.
892
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:35.719
I'd played every This is about overthinking, which we all do, overthinking.
893
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:36.039
Your golf swing.
894
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:40.679
Let me see if I can start this because sometimes
895
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.400
when I have a video on on it starts too quickly.
896
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.079
Okay, so this this is this.
897
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:48.440
This is a D one, a former Division one female
898
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:50.440
golfer who is also a psychologist.
899
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.360
I believe, and uh, I like.
900
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:55.559
I like your content and I thought I played for
901
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.039
you and hopefully you guys can hear it now by
902
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:00.880
the way I saw your No you and the reason
903
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.239
you couldn't hear the audio is the same reason because
904
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:06.440
I had I had the thing on different connection.
905
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.199
All right, So have a listen for I was a chronic.
906
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.559
Can you hear that? Yeah? Okay, so she's talking about
907
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:12.760
being a chronic. Overthinker.
908
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:16.280
Overthinker, think think, think think think is all I wanted.
909
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:17.159
To do, and it wasn't working.
910
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:19.920
My coach encouraged me to try to play target golf
911
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:23.000
in competition, and that was initially terrifying, but what I
912
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.000
discovered was that I played better than I could have
913
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.199
ever imagined or swing actually isn't the problem. You are
914
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.159
discomfort with. Uncertainty is the problem. When you stand over
915
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:34.920
the ball, there's inherent uncertainty in where the ball will go,
916
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.440
and you don't like that feeling. There's a feeling of tension,
917
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.519
of groundlessness, of being untethered. So you try to eliminate
918
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:44.159
that feeling by thinking all the thought can about your mechanics,
919
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:46.280
because if you swing perfectly, you can guarantee that that
920
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:47.920
ball will go to the target right. So you can
921
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.760
see that this is a false belief that overthinker is carried.
922
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:52.920
So what's the treatment?
923
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.920
So I take wisdom from exposure and response prevention, which
924
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:00.280
is a treatment for obsessive compulsive disorder in fact, where
925
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:02.840
we expose ourselves to the thing we don't like feeling
926
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.119
and resist the urge to control it. If you're an overthinker,
927
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.400
the exposure therapy for you is to play target golf.
928
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:12.360
Do it in practice, Do it on the course and
929
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:14.360
allow yourself to feel those feelings.
930
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.760
Of tension or even sheer terror as you stand.
931
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.719
Over the ball without overthinking. Do this over and over
932
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.880
and your nervous system will learn that you actually can
933
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.960
survive that feeling, because if you don't, you're just maintaining
934
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:30.519
the cycle of fear, overthinking, tension, bad golf.
935
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:30.920
And more fear.
936
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:34.000
If you want to unlock more fun, joy and better
937
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:38.000
golf under pressure, try this out tempo and target. It
938
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:40.119
might not feel good at first, but if you are
939
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.039
an overthinker, you must let this go in order to
940
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:44.119
play your best.
941
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:46.199
Yeah. I couldn't agree with her more.
942
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:52.639
Absolutely and so interesting. You play that clip once before,
943
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.760
but there's no problem because there's an extra part there
944
00:49:57.800 --> 00:49:59.400
that I didn't catch first time.
945
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:03.960
Are you sure? You serious? Absolutely? You know. So.
946
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:06.480
The problem with not doing the show every week is
947
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.400
that sometimes I think, because I leave this stuff open, No,
948
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:13.239
it's now I'm gonna play this every week, you.
949
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:15.519
Know, No, right, you know, at the beginning of the
950
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.360
show we're talking about being elders.
951
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.400
That's really funny to me. Maybe this is, you know what,
952
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:23.159
this is the beginning of the end for me. It
953
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:26.880
really is, it really really is. I was so happy
954
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:28.519
to play that clip and I was like, oh, Tim
955
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.159
will love this. They'll give us lots to talk about. Meanwhile,
956
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:34.840
I've played it before. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That's
957
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:36.880
so good. You know what, though, I love the fact
958
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:39.880
this actually unlike golf when I make a when I
959
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.159
screw up, this makes me. This makes me laugh. It's
960
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:46.719
given me so much joy right now. You well, I mean,
961
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:48.840
can I ask you a question? Can we play it again?
962
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:49.719
Can we play it again?
963
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:50.639
No?
964
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.920
No, no no, but you could you could say as
965
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:57.119
you say on the golf course, that just happened, so
966
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:58.760
you know, Okay.
967
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:01.480
So so she mentioned.
968
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.480
Target and tempo, yes, which obviously we've talked.
969
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:12.960
About target because that's on the show.
970
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:18.760
But she was talking about uh treatment treatment for OCD.
971
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:24.039
So it happens to so many golfers. I remember early
972
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:25.639
when I was doing that, started to get into this
973
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:28.159
coaching thing in terms of performance and stuff.
974
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:29.280
I remember running.
975
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.079
Into a couple of golfers and one in particular. You
976
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.079
mentioned glenn Abbey. So this guy played at glenn Abbey.
977
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:39.719
He could never get it over the water on nine nine,
978
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:42.400
par four. Yeah he got that water, that's kind of right,
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et cetera. And he just never could do it. And
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so what she's talking about is when we're in a
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situation like that, this connects.
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To what we're talking about earlier.
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You're triggered so your body goes kind of in into
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an uproar, and now you don't have access to your
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golf swing anymore. So what she's talking about is similar
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to what I recommended this fellow. I said, I said,
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you go out there, perhaps it's late in the afternoon
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or in evening, and you just simulate playing the playing
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the hole, you know, hit a drive, and then you
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go out there and then just be in the experience
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of hitting that shot and experiencing what's happening as you
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do it, and just over time, you'll eventually hit some
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balls over there. It may take who knows how many
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it will take, but eventually you'll find a way to
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get it to access your golf swing and get it
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airborne onto the green, and your nervous system will just
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start to settle down and you'll become used to it.
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And that is that's one of the things that.
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See, we hate pain, so we won't avoid pain as
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much as we can. But when we face start pain
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and we deal with it, the experience is pretty universal.
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We didn't die, yep.
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And now we have a greater awareness of what goes
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on for us, and now we have an ability to
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respond much better.
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In the future.
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Yeah, exposing that exposure therapy just to sort of you know,
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I think we all have holes at our golf course
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or when we're playing a different course. Everyone has a
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hole or shot that they feel uncomfortable with.
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I used to years ago.
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I think I just universally hit a draw with my driver,
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and I think I, like a lot of players, I'm
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better players Now. Most of us hit sort of straight
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shots or cuts with drivers. So when I get a
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T shot now that has a little right to left bias, if.
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I can, I'll hit my three? Would I?
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I just like you here on TV. It's just easier
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to turn over because there's more loft. But yeah, that
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definitely there's I mean, you have the National for years.
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It got to the point where I couldn't get a
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ball in play on a particular hole, and I did
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exactly what you did, what you said. I went down
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there one day later in the afternoon and I just
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hit shots off the tee until I found a club
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that I could reliably get in play. I think that's
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a and again playing the fact that I played that
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clip aside, maybe I never got to that last part.
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So yeah, that's there you go.
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That's why I did it, but being good save save like.
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She has another video about hitting and I won't play
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it just in case I played it before. But she
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has a video it's if you want to follow her
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as I do. It's think better Golf. She's a very
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bright young woman. She has a video about our ability
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to hit shots when we're uncomfortable. For instance, your your
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client or friend who couldn't get it over the water
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there on the ninth hole. We can be uncomfortable and
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still hit a golf shot because it happens all the time.
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It's just a matter of, as you say, if it's
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it's painful because we think the outcome and oftentimes the
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outcome is painful, but there's it doesn't mean we can't
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do it under like. Being under pressure is so self inflicted.
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But being uncomfortable. We all feel uncomfortable first tea, certain shots,
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maybe there's a certain club in your bag. But it
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doesn't mean that you can that you can't do it.
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Oh yeah, exactly, Well, I mean most of us think
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you know you hear things like you know Ernie else
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the iceman or the you know he has he's so
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cool under pressure. Don't kid yourself when it comes down
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to you know, the big moment of making a putt
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or whatever. They're shaking. I remember, like, uh, you know
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what was it in the was it in the Zurich
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Alex Fitzpatrick and Matt Matt Fitzpatrick. Matt hit this, you know,
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amazing sand shot, big long shot to like to but
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00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:11.639
this far, you know, like and Alex thought he was
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going to miss it. He just had to tap in
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about six you know, six eight inch putt. Yeah, and
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00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:19.280
he was shaking and he was afraid he was going
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to miss it. Yeah, So don't everyone goes through. But
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as to your point, you can be uncomfortable, you can
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be nervous, you can be shaking, and you can still
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hit a golf shot.
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And you know what's a take?
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00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:36.679
I would say it takes being connected to physically to
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00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.599
what's happening in your body, especially the golf club, and
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just staying with him, man, stay with that, that that feeling,
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00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.400
that sensation which connects you to the golf club and
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00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:48.519
that keeps you out of your head.
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Well, I think that's a nice place to in today's program,
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Tim O'Connor. Always a pleasure being in your presence, Always
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feel better having a chance to speak with you, and
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I hope everyone, I hope everyone else in Joe in
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today's uneven, entertaining episode of Swing Thoughts audio audio troubles.
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The same fucking clip again. It's great. It's just great.
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It's just great.
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I don't have the energy to share my dark Knight
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of the golf soul with you, but maybe next time, hopefully,
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hopefully it it passes.
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That's foreshadow. And there you go here looking forward. To
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00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.559
look forward, folks, to hearing gsl's suffering because I have.
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00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:35.000
I've renamed it from golf hell. It's the dark night
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of the golf soul, is what I'm experiencing.
1084
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:44.320
Yeah, sounds that sounds mystical, mystical, crowded, shrouded, shrouded.
1085
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:49.719
That's right, and shrouded mystery.
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Serpents coming out of crevice's.
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I was remembering in one of the phrases.
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I was sharing it with my, uh my beautiful friend shown.
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I said, you know, there's a phrase when the thing,
1090
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:05.079
the object of your the thing that you love, becomes
1091
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.679
an object, it becomes like an object of misery. And
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that's what that's what golf is for me lately. Listen, everybody,
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Tim O'Connor O'Connor goolf dot Ca. Follow Tim as I do.
1094
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:21.239
Check out his substack. You can check out my regular job.
1095
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:27.880
It's Humble and Fred wherever you get your podcasts. And Nicholas,
1096
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.480
our producer, is always at the end of this program
1097
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:33.239
will tell you how you can follow us and all
1098
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:37.480
the video you see. This young man every week chops
1099
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:41.840
all this nonsense nonsense up and puts out some great
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content that is starting to get some traction. Nicholas, Nick
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00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:50.199
are you? It would just be so great if Nick
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just was like so fucking done with this, like, oh,
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a fellows sleep.
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I'm sure he's a sleep Nick? Are you there? Listen
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to these old guys, you know, so maybe what I'll know.
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Next there like next looking up broad loom.
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What's it mean?
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You know? Basically in the uh what I've forgotten to mention.
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So if you like the stuff that we talk about,
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you can also check out a certain book called Getting Unstuck.
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Yeah right on Amazon, which.
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I haven't uh, I haven't shamelessly promoted for a while.
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So there you go.
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Oh, I just got a text from Nick. He says,
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don't throw to me at the end. Okay, all right,
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all right, well you can follow us on all the
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social media as. You can look for Swing Thoughts on YouTube,
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to TikTok, Twitter x and of course Instagram.
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You sell them out there.
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So no, I just thinking, like you know, it's like
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sometimes to tell people, you know, our podcast it's really professional, professional.
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00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:53.239
I think we're more. Today was more semi professional, but
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there you go. I mean, today we make we make
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a few bogies. Today was uneven, but in a very
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01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.119
national manner. All Right, we'll see everybody.
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We're going to tape a show next week, so there
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will be no more interruptions to your swing thoughts diet.
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