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Documentaries are about the people that you meet and the
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stories you can tell. Stories of tragedy, laughter, hope, and
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desperation across far away lands or right here in your
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own backyard. This podcast brings these stories to you, the listener,
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so that you can experience the adventures of documentary, filmmaking
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and audio form while embarking on daily adventures of your own.
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Welcome to Barefoot Media Stories within Stories podcast with your
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host Sana Holand. Ronnie Neville is an Irish comedian and storyteller.
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He has honed his craft in Fremantle, Western Australia for
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taking a show global and recently has returned to become
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one of Fringe Festival's best selling acts. Ronnie style is
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reminiscent of the street sellers of Bold as he developed
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his cheeky persona selling potato pillars on American television and
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in personal locations all around the world. We welcomed very
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funny and very talented Ronnie Neville to the show. Welcome
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to the show, Ronnie Neville. Hello, this is the first
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time hearing your own voice back. Yeah, it's brilliant. I
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love that intro. Deep how's it going? Made yourself? Yeah? Well,
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We've been friends a long time. We've been trying to
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do this a long time. We've managed to find what
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our window when we should probably be sleeping to get
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this before you fly off to Adelaide to get this stuff.
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Definitely mate.
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Or did we meet We meant in the gym or
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was the sauna?
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In the sauna?
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Someone introduced us?
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Was it? Yeah? Some said this guy is into film
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and was it on the streets to free or something?
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Or did I know I ran into you a second
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because we lost touch for a little bit, and then yeah,
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it was averred the years, eh kept catching up. I
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was a sauna, Jack Covid Almost it was, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah,
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that was great, he say. You've been since we've met,
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You've been exploding onto the scene, I'd say, and gallivanting
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all around the world, doing comedy festivals and just really
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giving you a crack. Yeah. Well, when we chatted initially
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it was something you were kind of not sure of,
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just kind of giving it a go, see how it goes. Yeah.
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I think when I met you, actually, I think it
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was just like my fifth gig or something. Yeah, and
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you were telling me different places I can go on,
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and then I did fifteen gigs and then with the
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fringing part COVID they couldn't get any big acts over.
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Yeah.
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So I just did a little bit of bluffing and
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said I've been a stand up comedy for about ten
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years in.
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Ireland and totally fictional. Yeah.
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And the guy said already, and I said, yeah, with
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all the West Cork circuit and you know.
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Just bluffing.
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We call that bullshitting in Australia. Yeah, bullshitting. And he
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said I have two rooms and I said yeah. He
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said I have a fifty seater or one hundred seater
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and I said, oh, how much are they needs to
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be charged? A dollar fifty per seat? The two bucks
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and I said, yeah, give me a hundred oh yeah, yeah,
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And then I just got straight stuck into today and
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then yeah, work at the markets over the years and
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doing all the carnival, doing all the stuff I did
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over the years, I found the old school marketing really
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worked well. So the first show I put on, I
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had a forty people show up and when I walked
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on stage, I turned around and I said, guys, look,
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I'm going to be honest with jelly.
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My cards on the table.
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This is the biggest crowd I've ever got in my life,
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probably the only crowd I've ever got as well. So
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he goes, look, I'm just going to tell you stories.
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I said, I'm going to tell you stories the same
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way I tell stories to my brothers and my buddy's
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in the pub in Ireland. And I said, if I
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can deliver it that way, I said, we're going to
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have a good night. And then they all just looked
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at each other night awkwardly looked at each other and
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then made I just went straight forward. And the first
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gig I did, the first show I did, I did
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an hour. I did an hour and twenty five minutes,
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and the guy was trying to flash me to get
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up stage because the crowd kept on saying one more
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story because I just gotten into it. But I felt
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like after forty minutes, I kind of woke up on
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stage and I'm like, whoa to really enjoyed this?
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And that was your first gig? That was my first gig,
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But that's highly unusual. Yeah, that the night.
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Before because like I'm a first that procrastinator, I just
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got a pen and paper out and I started writing
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down premises, loads of premises, you know, and I said, right,
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we'll try and write down about fifty premises. And then
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I went to the same day, I went to office
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works and I got a whiteboard and I wrote on
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the whiteboard some of the premises, and then I gave
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up on the premises, and I drew a stick man
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on the stage with like a microphone, you know, and
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then like a little stickman in the crowd sitting on
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the chairs. And then and then a stick man to
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the side of the stage with a narrow pointing to
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the mic and saying, have a go, get stuck and
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see what happens.
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You know. See, I had nothing, nothing.
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My paper that he that I got When I went
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in to the venue, and the light was in my
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eyes and I was like, how can we turn that light?
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Dunks?
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I'd like to be able to see the people's faces,
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you know, And I was trying to fix the light.
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But the a four page that I had, I had
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it all written young and pencil, and I couldn't even
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read it on the stage with the light. So I
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ran out. There was seven and eleven across the road.
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There was a cardboard box outside, you know, and I
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ripped the end of it off and I got a marker,
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like a big black marker, and I wrote all the premises,
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so it actually looked like I did it on purpose,
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like a giant prop. So after a few stories, I
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was like, all right, guys, let's have a look at this.
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And I held it up.
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But I was holding up this thing that was like
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nearly half a meter and then and I was like,
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all right, so will we do the duck orgy story?
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Will we do none? And the crowd was just laughing,
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you know, in one stage, about four or five shows
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into when I dropped it the cardboard and I fell
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into the crowd and I was like, guys, I actually
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need that, and they were like, yeah.
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I guess that's the whole show. I know what I'm doing,
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you know.
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And then I saw like making mistakes that got lapsed.
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So I kind of leant into that a little bit
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four years ago now. And yeah, I sold out Edinburgh
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this year and sold out the Perk Fringe, and I
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think I was the biggest ticket seller this year at
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the Pork Fringe. Iry.
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I was sending a email to clarify it, but a
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lot of people said I did fifty six shows at
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the Fringe. Howing was the guy for four weeks and
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I handed out I think just under ten thousand flyers.
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That's what you're doing. You're like old school panned the
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pavement headed on flyers. The first year I did it
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as well. My numbers were really high.
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But what I did was someone told me there was
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a lot of Irish nurses here and Irish doctors.
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So I went out to Saint Jenna Good's.
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Yeah, I'm went out that hospital and I googled mapped
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the staff car park.
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So I had all these flyers and I just put
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on the windscreen and then had hundreds and hundreds of
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cars up and down and just the last ten cars.
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This security guy pulled off right and he's like, my
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may what are you doing? And I'm looking at him.
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I liked and I was like, I'm just putting it.
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He goes, man, you can't do that. You can't just
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come into that. I was like, oh, sorryment, and he goes,
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how many did you? How many did you do? And
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then he pulled one of him and he goes, who's
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it is it you? No, No, that's my brother and
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I have to go. He was like, man, get out
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of here.
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I just took it went for one ship and this
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guy's the plast at this place. No way did he take.
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Him down, like he was like oh yeah, yeah. It
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was amazing because like it definitely kicked in because all
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Irish nurses started coming in and then they talk like
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yeah yeah. Then I did a few shoppings in our
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car parks. I did the posters everywhere. I put a
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donkey on the poster, and I kind of stood behind
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the donkey. Not on purpose, actually I didn't think about that,
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but people were like, what the So the poster looked
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quite funny, But I actually wanted to picture of me
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next to a donkey by a stone wall, you know.
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I was like the Irish thing selling the Irish. But
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the person that made the post and I said, and
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I'm slightly standing behind the donkey, and the donkey's a
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big smile looking order one and looks like I'm riding
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the donkey, like oh, and I paid all the money
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up And I was like, ah, who cares now you
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didn't get a review or something.
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Yeah, yeah, so I put I put Yeah. I think
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a lot. I think a huge prout of that is
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just having a ride or die attitude. You just like
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fuck it, put in the work, put in the you know,
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have the idea, go after it. That's it. Just get
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stuck and have a go what what is that? Why
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do you have that? Jane? You know that like sort
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of the drive? Where does that come from?
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I don't know where it comes from because I'm the
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youngest of the seven, and maybe one of my brothers, Terry.
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Comes from. You're not getting any food at the dinner table,
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if you know, Yeah, that's it.
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When you're younger, sometimes I think you have to be
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the entertainer because you don't get a world and a
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big family, big Irish family. So I remember like putting
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my head underneath the kitchen table and popping up and
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I have their attention for like twenty seconds, you know,
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and you'll be trying to get their attention.
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So I didn't. That's how I fell into the markets
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and the pitching.
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But I remember there's a few stories when I was younger,
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and I don't know why I did it or who
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I was watching, but there was one, I think one
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of the earliest ones that I can remember. I think
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it was eight years of age, and we went to
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this big show like your Pert Royal Show here or
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the Sydney Royal show, and when you walk in, they
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were charging people five P for a program of what's
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on during the day. And then when we were seating
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in the bleachers where people were watching the show and
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the horse riding and stuff, I could see all the
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programs were just left there. I was walking underneath it,
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like when my family was on the top. I was
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walking underneath the playing around with some other kids, and
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I saw the booklets and I started collecting them. Then
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I went out through the fence and walked up beyond
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where the people sell them for fifty P up the driveway,
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up people parking their cars, and I just started going, guys,
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you pay fifty P down there. I'm signing them for
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twenty P if you want one, twenty P.
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And I was.
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Selling them like piles. I couldn't get them fast enough,
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and everybody was giving me twenty P.
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You know.
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It's like there are fifty p down there, twenty p here,
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you know. And one of my uncles saw me and
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my aunt and they met my mom and dad and said.
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Did you send him out doing that outside? And they're
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like doing what a lot of my family were all
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watching me from a cafe just up the drive We're
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selling them for twenty p and they're like, we don't
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know where where he came to the kids fay in
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the red Yeah, memory, like so where did you get
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a pad on the back for that?
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They're all laughing, and maybe there was the attention then
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from the laughing, like you know, laughing and made collecting
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the money as well. It was class I remember from
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the money and toolally can hiding the can for my
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brothers to take it. I spent all my money. But
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there was a few stories looked at.
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Especially if that when you're a little kid, you know,
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you get that hustle on because you're not getting money
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from anywhere else, like the main your main suptos have
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been coome as like the tooth Fairy, the tooth Fairy,
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and then since that, it's like what are you going
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to do? So any little sort of scheme or hustle
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or side thing you can get.
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Yeah, it's I remember like so many of those stories
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when just getting losing everything, not losing everything, but I
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kind of spending all the savings and then getting a
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bit of a bouse, getting it again, finding a where
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to do it again and not working for someone.
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Yeah, but the next hussle here addicted to the hussle.
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I had this wicked hussle when I was a kid.
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Doctor Pepper came to Australia. They bought it over here
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and they did a promotion. It was like one in
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three bottles winds right free Doctor Pepper. So if you're
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like under the cap, it's a plastic cap. Under the
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cap looking at it says a free. I can't of
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what I said. You could go to the fridge and
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getnoma on. And so anyway, I was at my local
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delicatessen and I was looking at the guy loading it in.
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It's the same guy that I've been buying lollies off
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since I was like five years old. And I was
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watching him loading the box of Doctor Pepper's and I
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was twenty four three hours of eight and you just
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put it straight in as it came out of the box.
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I'm like, there must be a fucking pattern to that, right,
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And playing at the court at the school, he's the
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kids there, and so I just like roll in. I
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worked out that if it was eight rows of three
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and you're picking from the three, so pick the middle
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one that either winners or losers, right, And I picked
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the one next to it. That's got to be the
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other one, like the winner or loose. And then I
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just worked out of it. It was alternating, so I
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was like two then one, the two then one, so simple.
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So like we'd roll down at the courts with about
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ten doctor peppers so that for like two dollars supposed
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to three dollars or whatever it was, you know, half fry,
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so it just would have no little on it and
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guys would be like, yeah, mum down. So like all
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these older kids mand me here some money, just going
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this deli. Guys just like what's going on? Right? So
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I did that for ages, and then I got I
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had a habit of getting really cocky, like you know,
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like pride comes before a four, that's the saying. So
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I like I was like, holy shit, okay, So I
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turned brag to some bigger kids and I was like, yeah, man,
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I gage preductor, I say, you always come on stuck
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right the brag, And so like I went up there,
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I roll and in by the first one. This guy's
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like this fucking kid. And then so because you'd have
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to be like Schernobol, you just have to stay clear
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for a while and let it all simmer down until
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you rated it again. This day, I was like, I'm
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getting it. So I went in there and I did it,
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and I'll walk out, give the kid a free one,
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you know, take his lid, go get the next free one.
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Just kept them with that so I know this next
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time you load it in, he's like shuffling it all
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around and all that, trying to like bamboozles and stuff
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and screw up the thing. But the damage was done.
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I think I made one hundred bucks a new pair
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of sneakers, new basketball killer. But it comes from having
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nothing and being creative and I get something and said
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the boxes not I remember, like we used to what
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do you call it here when you just take a
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day off school and not tell anyone? Yeah, wagging, he said,
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going on a hop.
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Yeah, we just got to like a pool hall and
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then blame pool And then I saw it.
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It's a good wag sarking cigarettes. Yeah, that's what I think.
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This place was huge, and that they had machines. You know,
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they had all the old Street Fighter game compared the best.
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But if I saw a machine with an out of
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order sign, I take the out of order sign and
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just pop it behind the machine and walk up and go.
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Guys put ten bucks intos.
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Like that's the water. And I was like, well, it's
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not working. You took my money. You know, if they
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got up to the counter, will give you money. And
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then I'd watch every day alternating who would be behind
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the stats, and they would just taking out orders. I
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just suck it by this.
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I know you don't know where you get those ideas from,
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but it's just like yeah, and.
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Then did you ever get caught doing this game? No? No, no, really, hey,
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I remember member those machines that would push the twenty
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cent coins.
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Oh, yeah, you dropped them in and then they push.
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I still gets in the caps and banging caps with
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hammers and costing them with a like like a wire
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cutter and filing them.
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So I was getting fake coins dropping the men.
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Made that play like, and that was just my environment
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anywhere I see to make Then at the front of
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the little shops, the same poor shopkeeper, they had the
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bubble gum machines. You put in fifty cents or twenty
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cents thing and like a bounty, bub will come out. Yeah,
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And I figured out the roulette set at home. It
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was perfect scized to put in the quid so there's
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like this plastic little plastic playing chips from came out
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of something and there's about ten thousand. I'm just like
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eating bubble gum for the sous, just fishing out plastic chips.
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The happening in a straight jacket somewhere just so that shop.
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He's like, I've done.
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I remember, like you know, when you can't get away
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from Michion, kind of like you're like Jesus happened again,
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you know. I'm I was always going to working the
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streets and the flight pitching. I was working outside the
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main train station in Melbourne and a middte crate to
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get the crowd around. But I used to be that,
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But I'm I went to America and I went to
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California and my body picked me up. But he's announced
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his wife and they were driving me around and they
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brought me up to where all the stars are on
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the ground, Hollywood Will Hollywood Bull Yeah, And they were
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going in to be a part of an audience and
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they left me outside and they was like, all right,
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can you can you just go down to the shop
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and get some coins and watch the meter so we
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don't get a fine. And I said, yeah, no, worries,
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you know, And I said I had some dollars on me,
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you know, like the notes. So in the market they
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have the one dollar note. Yeah, And I walked into
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the shop and your man refused me, you know, to
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give me any quarters for the meter machine. So I
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walked across the road and I walked up to some
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guy and goes, oh, excuse me, sir. I said, I
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just need to get some quarters there for the meter
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like that, and gave him the dollar the dollar bill
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and he just grabbed quarters and just chucked him at
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me and goes, na, that's okay, you can give it,
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you know, the dollar bill.
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He didn't want it, Yes, all right, No, are you sure?
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And he was like yeah, And I was like brand
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he's walking down the street and I only needed the
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four quarter.
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But I was like, god, that's strange.
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So now I sort of walk up to people with
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the dollar and I said, you might guy us a
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new change for the meter, and I here's the dollar
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bill and I'm I'm giving it to him like I'm
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trying to push it on him, and they're like, no, no, man,
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here here mate. My buddy came back. After about three hours,
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I bags and bags of dollar coins. I kept walking
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around the block, just walk up the strangers and I
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was offeringdom and I don't even know if that's a hostel.
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They wouldn't take the money as the money was dirty
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or something. I don't want to touch it. I kept
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getting the quarters mate and I was telling my body
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and he was.
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Like Jesus, he said, he's in. How long you in America?
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I was. I was literally in the contract where two
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hours from lax to there's boulevards and I was just
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walking up and down. Would have done I don't know
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if anybody ever done that, but met I could have
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done it for a month. I remember my.
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Pants was falling down. I had so many, so many
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and I was literally in the contradict two hours.
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Yeah. Yeah, you just get you start it and you
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go all right, I'm all in on this because you're
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looking for stories, right, if you're gonna be on your deathbed,
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you want good stories. That's the point. Yeah, definitely stories,
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and that's that's what the comedy. I just that's a
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wild part of town, that Hollywood Boulevard, Sunset Strip, Like
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when you first go then you're looking around, it's just
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so how iconic it is you know, you've seen on
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so many movies and so many you know.
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You can see the people that just kind of felt
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wayside as well.
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There's a really in fact, if anyone's gone over, the
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only good coffee in America basically is on that street.
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It's down across the road from the viaproom called the Butcher,
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the Baker, and the cappuccino Maker. Yeah, it's the only
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way you can get in Australian flat wires from that point.
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And but you're sitting in there and there's like NFL quarterback,
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you know, you look around this who you just you know,
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caughting it off, and they'll be like I got action
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random like cousin or something and just random, and it's
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just like, fuck me. This is really the factory of celebrities.
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This place, like it is pretty cool. What was it
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like when you're over there, did you try and do
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any comedy or get to any store? It was I
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ended up on TV in the US don the TV
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commercials filipeters. So when I first potato, Yeah, the Great
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Potato filler available on YouTube. It's on YouTube, the Greatest
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Er saves Man YouTube. It's like eight million views. Some
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guy dedicated and now worked with it. But that was
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funny how that happened as well. But I just went
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to the States just because I wanted to see could
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I put myself on TV. I thought it might take
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a year or so, and I thought, I'll do the
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fairs and work my way up and find a product
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and learn about putting something on TV. And then I
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just thought, well, don't I just go and pitch people
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my idea and even if they screwed me over and
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I get no money, I get on the TV, you know.
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And might within a month. I just started pitching different people,
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like different angles, this will work on TV. And then
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within a month I was on TV selling the world's
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Greatest Irish vegetable Pila all over TV. And I remember
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actually we went to the Irish bar in Santa Monica,
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I forget the name of and I walked in there
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with that he's a good friend of mine now and
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he was the guy that kind of put the deal together.
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I was chashing to the bar man and he was
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an Irish guy. He was actually from Cork as well.
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He said what are you over there? And I goes, oh,
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I'm going to try. And this was like a month previous.
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I got I'm going to try and put myself on TV,
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and he was kind of giving me that look that
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condescending Oh yeah, I know the guy. Yeah, I've seen so.
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Many of these over the years that we showed up
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like this must have been a few months later then'
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like you know, we showed up and I was starting
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my whole idea of like, I'm going to put a
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vegetable peeter on the TV in the America's be quite
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funnyting an Irish guy. People will be memorable, they won't forget.
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It's not good for marketing. And he was just looking
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at me as like this guy's half mad. And a
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few just like three months later, not half My eagle
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is getting too big. She'd pop the balloon. So I
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didn't come out right.
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Why Yeah, we walked back into this Irish bar and
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that buddy that put the deal together and she was
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with me as well.
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We walked in in this bar. Man he almost jumped
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over the counter. He was like, we've seen you between
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the Lakers game.
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You're on. The Lakers came and TV commercials came up,
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and he was like, can you say hello to my
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friend she's sick in hospital. Mad, and I was looking
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at her like, look, look look at this. See. I
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think they're a lot. I think Irish must be a
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lot like Australians, where like if you're telling me, hey,
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brain scheme, they're gonna just look at you like you know,
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like I've always in a million ahead or something. Yeah,
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but when you make it, they're the first to go like, yeah,
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good on you, Oh what I know you're going to
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do it. Americans are the opposite. You tell them their
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right and they're like, yeah you do you good it
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00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:14.319
for it woo and they're like you made and that's
484
00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:16.240
kind of cool. But yeah, if you tell them an
485
00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.640
Australian and Irishman and Englishman, this is what I'm going
486
00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:21.400
to do, that's the thing. You're fucking idiot. Oh mate,
487
00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.720
I have a great story. You're going to love this.
488
00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.759
I was in Shanghai and I was with my brother
489
00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:29.839
and we were visiting a factory and we were bringing
490
00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:32.279
in different products, and he was obsessed about a certain
491
00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:36.000
type of product, textile, and I was sick of he
492
00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:37.319
was my older brother. I was going to sick of
493
00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:40.559
following me around to these factories. I earned this hotel
494
00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:44.000
room in Shanghai, shared the room and we had an argument,
495
00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:45.680
like brotherly argument, and he.
496
00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:47.240
Said that he said, oh yeah, he was such a
497
00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.359
big idea. Goes, look this is bread and butter. We
498
00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:51.920
know what works, has been working for years. Just bring
499
00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:54.319
in more containers, blah blah. And I was like, no,
500
00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:56.599
I'm sick of this. I said, I'm not doing it anymore,
501
00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:58.279
you know. And he said, oh, what are you going
502
00:21:58.359 --> 00:21:59.880
to do? And he goes, I'll tell you what I'm
503
00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:02.640
going And he's in his underpants now right. He's kind
504
00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:04.200
of a heavy set, stocky guy.
505
00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:06.640
Right, he's in he's underpants, listening to me, drinking a
506
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:09.279
cup of tea now right, just looking at me, you know,
507
00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:11.720
leaning against the door with a bathrum. He goes, I'm
508
00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:13.920
going to get a vegetable peeler and I'm going to
509
00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:15.759
go to America and I'm going to call it the
510
00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.160
greatest Irish vegetable parade up here. I'm going to put
511
00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:21.359
it on TV in America. I'm gonna sell millions of them.
512
00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:23.799
I've never seen him laugh so much in my life,
513
00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.920
you know. He fell back into the shower door. He
514
00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:28.200
came out. The tea was fun. He fell onto the
515
00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:30.119
bed like a little polar bear over his legs in
516
00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.039
the air rolled. Anytime he look at me, he started laughing,
517
00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:35.680
you know, And I was like, I show you, I'll
518
00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:37.720
show you, and he just anytime you look at me.
519
00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:39.200
Even the next day, he just looked at me and
520
00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:40.000
started laughing.
521
00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:40.319
Right.
522
00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:43.880
And then that's us standing the videos and started as
523
00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:45.640
I knew you could do it.
524
00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.880
You're laughing at me for a month. But as though.
525
00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:54.640
It's that attitude of just kind of getting stuck in
526
00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:55.880
and having a go ye.
527
00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:58.799
And I don't really think about negative stuff. I don't
528
00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:01.519
think about the negative side onto. Yeah, I don't think
529
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:01.880
about that.
530
00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:04.240
Well, you can't because it's paralysis if you do, because
531
00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:05.839
then you're trying to think of ways to beat the
532
00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:08.519
negative side of it and com about it, and then
533
00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.640
you're just analyzing your idea to death and you just
534
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:12.599
talk yourself out of it. We had a mate, one
535
00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.240
of my best mates, Sam. I love him like the
536
00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:17.599
way he works. He's very negative, but he's really good
537
00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:20.200
at waterproofing your idea. So i'd have the idea, i'd
538
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.440
run it by Sam. He'd be like that, no fucking work,
539
00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.119
because of this, this, this, this, this, and then I'd
540
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:26.960
have to solve all those things until I got to
541
00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:29.440
a point where Sam's like, yeah, maybe or whatever. He
542
00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:31.440
gives a ship, yeah, and then I know I got
543
00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:33.960
an idea that might be feasible. And you know, most
544
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:36.720
ideas probably are doomed to fail, but that is really
545
00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.920
helpful to have that. This motherfucker one of my best
546
00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:43.680
friends about twenty and eleven or twenty twelve, I remember
547
00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:45.960
because it was his term is his team is sending
548
00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:47.960
to your Spurs and now playing my team, the Heat,
549
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.640
And in the NBA Finals, he was coming around every day.
550
00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:52.680
We're watching him and stuff. He goes, oh, there's this
551
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:55.880
thing's a coin, all right, and he's sort of telling
552
00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.160
me about it and whatever. And it was because he's
553
00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:00.240
kind of like, you know, internet dwelling kind of I
554
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:02.359
So I was like, oh, yeah, all right, cal let's
555
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:04.000
do it. And he's like, yeah, you can build a mine,
556
00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:05.759
I just with your graphics card and you can just
557
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:07.759
turn over and stuff. And I'm like, I was good
558
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:08.720
to go, what do we need to do? You know,
559
00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:10.960
what do we go? Let's do it? And anyways say
560
00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:12.160
he's like all right, leave it with me for like
561
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:13.440
a couple of days, you know. So it goes away,
562
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:15.640
he comes back with it, and I've sort of been
563
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:17.480
planning it out, all right, my computer's going to be
564
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.519
like this, and then I use it durning our day
565
00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:21.519
for UNI work, and then it's just going to run
566
00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:23.799
and turn over a bitcoin or you know whatever turnover
567
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:26.759
and it goes n left done the maths, and I
568
00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:28.640
trusted him Becau He's done an investment banking degree in
569
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.119
New York. He's like, I've done the maths. We're going
570
00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.799
to spend We're going to pay way more in power
571
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:36.200
than we will in bitcoin because we're only going to
572
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:38.480
be overturning over like a bitcoin a day or something
573
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.400
like that. And at that time the ship was worth nothing.
574
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.000
Really Yeah, So he's like, we're never going to do it,
575
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.880
and I was like, yeah, an extra four hundred dollars
576
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.559
a month for a year to shit in like power build,
577
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:52.160
it's never going to work. Bro, we would have been
578
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:54.599
fucking card. I probably would have sold it at a thousand,
579
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:56.079
but who knew it was getting to like one hundred
580
00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:59.839
thousand US right, Like yeah, but yeah, I just I
581
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:01.400
every time I look at him there, every time I
582
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:02.519
tell him an idea and I look.
583
00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:04.599
At him I'm like, yeah, that's the right, big poin motherfucker.
584
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:08.880
Yeah. Yeah, ship. So you just got to really just
585
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.519
give it a little go and then see you can
586
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.119
you learn quickly if you're going to fail. Yeah.
587
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:17.119
And I also think maybe it's just like that's the
588
00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.480
great thing I suppose been in s and stuff over
589
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:22.200
the years. You know, you just think numbers and how
590
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.680
do I move it fast? And how do I over commerce?
591
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:27.200
And yeah you're just like, all right, I can do this,
592
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:29.119
you know, I just need to figure out a way.
593
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:32.480
But do you feel like building an empire with that skill?
594
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.680
Because I mean the sales is the critical bit, right,
595
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.240
Like when you're going to if you've got to go
596
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.880
into picture a startup, you know, to why Combinator or
597
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.160
something like that. Those guys in Silicon Valley, you've got
598
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.480
the skill that other people don't have. Like you might
599
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:50.720
have a technical person to help you to do all
600
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.440
the technical stuff, and you're the pitch guy. And you know,
601
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.160
you might have two tech guys and they don't have
602
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.160
the ability to pitch and their ship falls over. But
603
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.680
you've got the res and the all the you know
604
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:02.400
the stuff. Yeah, I think it's well when I walk
605
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.119
into a room as well, I can see like who's
606
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.000
in charge in the room, like my intuition and stuff.
607
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.680
Maybe that's because I'm the youngest of the seven, probably
608
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:11.839
watching all major siblings and watch you must happen or
609
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:13.640
he's going to be in trouble today, you know. I
610
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.400
see he should have said that at all. He's going
611
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:16.680
to read.
612
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:18.960
You're just going to start reading. So I'm good at
613
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.799
reading the room. I'll walk into a room and I
614
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.519
would be very quiet, like almost stand off it. And
615
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:28.759
eventually when I just kind of work out a position
616
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:32.119
the persons in the room, who's the alpha male, who's
617
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.680
the quiet person, Who's the intelligent guy that just has
618
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.599
a good point to say. Once I have that figured out,
619
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.200
it's like I can just take that I'm not. I
620
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.240
feel like I can take the room over if I
621
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.319
wanted that. I do it by doing this I do.
622
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.519
I've always done it with humor, crack a Joe. And
623
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:50.759
then I watch people reacting to it, and I'm kind
624
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.480
of gathering. My brain goes very fast and gathering information
625
00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:55.359
and then I go all right, I can say this
626
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.480
here or this, and then I can lead or change
627
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:01.480
the conversation in different ways and then I eventually, when
628
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.160
I see them all at the same level, I'll pitch
629
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.759
an idea and they'll all go, that's great. But if
630
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:08.359
I didn't do it at the right time, I don't
631
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:09.440
know how that makes sense.
632
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.279
Yeah, that's perfect sense. I mean, that's that's about of war,
633
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:14.119
isn't it. You got to like study your finding.
634
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.240
Yeah, that's it. But some things I can just do it.
635
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.559
But just sitting there quietly and watching the room, you know,
636
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:21.799
and I say, oh, that that person is going to
637
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.680
knock this idea very quickly. If I don't say, if
638
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:26.839
I don't acknowledge them.
639
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.200
Yeah, is it body language or what's that? What's your tips?
640
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:34.839
It's body damage. Body damage is massive. Body language, even
641
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:39.720
their eyebrows or frowned. The the quiet person is hard
642
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:41.759
to tell sometimes yeah, you know, but I can read
643
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:43.559
them in their eyes almost, you know, if I have
644
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:45.880
their interest the good numbers and stuff.
645
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.079
But that's all that's all for television really, you know.
646
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.559
But if I had like a group of guys in
647
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.200
the room, I could read them really well and then
648
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.680
deliver the message at the right time when they're maybe
649
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:04.799
their emotions or a certain level. But seeing about humor,
650
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.039
humor breaks the whole room and brings everybody in the
651
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:13.680
same level, not the sales guys. They talk about tonality
652
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:18.519
and voice and the body language and overcoming objections and
653
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.160
rolling stuff. But what I've noticed over the years is
654
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.960
that the power of humor is almost hypnotic. You can
655
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:28.440
change someone's mindset really quickly. It doesn't matter what they
656
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.799
think of you. Yeah, if you crack a good joke
657
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.279
or even better, at a story. I'm very good at
658
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.519
just whacking out the story just out of the blue.
659
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:37.920
It's almost like a shock to their system, like they
660
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:38.759
got an electric shock.
661
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:39.079
Yeah.
662
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:41.359
Yeah, this guy's just tell the story. And it could
663
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.880
be a random story. But after that story, they've forgotten
664
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.160
about what they're thinking about. Now they're all laughing, they're
665
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.160
all feeling good. And then I'll just kind of go o.
666
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.359
I'll go in with a message or going with what
667
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.880
I kind of want to do, and sometimes I'll just
668
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.880
sit back and watch the whole room talking about something
669
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.359
that I brought them to the area. Yeah, and I
670
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.680
can change the energy in the room. But sometimes when
671
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.440
I walk into a room and I'm just.
672
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.839
Standing back and I'll actually be very quiet, and I'll
673
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.000
almost be a little bit shy, kind of just standing
674
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.599
back watching and eventually one on one is scranned one
675
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:15.839
on one.
676
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:17.079
I think a lot of people have the skilled one
677
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:17.960
on one, but at the group.
678
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:19.279
Yeah, the group.
679
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:23.079
But that's why I love the sauna. And one of
680
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.000
the biggest laughs I had one night, I was like, guys,
681
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.279
I know it's a heat wave rolling this together. I
682
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.119
can see my reflection already on your forehead. But I said,
683
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.319
believe me. I said, comedians tell me ron the harvesting
684
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.319
through is making people laugh in a hot room. Guys,
685
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.480
I practice all my stories in the sauna.
686
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.440
Yeah, And I said, they come in, they close the door,
687
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.720
they can't leave for ten minutes. It's perfect.
688
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.319
I don't know if it's tears of laughing coming out
689
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.920
of their eyes or just sweat who you know. And
690
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:50.599
I said, that's how we get stuck in And then
691
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:52.440
I just did the deck is a bit of a laugh.
692
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.480
But you're really doing it to get them on the
693
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.119
way past with a jerk. If you can crack that person,
694
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:59.799
you know you're into a yeah. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
695
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.240
I was telling me, like when I walk into the sauna,
696
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:05.279
sometimes my opening line like for U s where it
697
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:08.279
was a chash up line just for blokes, and I
698
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.039
would just turn around walk into the sauna, you know,
699
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.480
to get them chatting. You know, I'd go on, wh.
700
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:13.359
Youdn't mind me? Asking?
701
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:14.799
How long would you stay in here?
702
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:19.240
Now? Far? I never got, oh, fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes,
703
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.160
ten minute, fifteen joone opens his fifteen minutes and three
704
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.880
rounds like come in and take a break, cold shower,
705
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.279
And then if they weren't talking after that, I leave
706
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:28.680
them alone.
707
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:30.880
You know, I try and get but they might be
708
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.519
busy day at work. Then some other person would walk
709
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.119
in and I find this funny because I noticed they
710
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.680
all noticed it. Next guy come in, sister, and I go,
711
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.359
how are yeah? We're good? Do you mind me asking
712
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:43.640
how long would you stay in here for?
713
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:44.200
You know?
714
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:46.839
And then after two or three times, the first guy
715
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:51.160
just goes, does this guy believe any of us?
716
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.119
You know? And next thing, eventually, after one or two
717
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.960
weeks and they see me do it again, They're like, Jesus,
718
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:58.200
do you just say this?
719
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.079
And got asked to get you talking, isn't it? And
720
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.200
some guy would laugh, you know, And then some guy
721
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:04.960
would just put his towel over his face and he
722
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.720
sees me walk in and peeping out, and humor is great.
723
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:10.759
It's really it's like a little sitcom because you could
724
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:14.039
fit yeah, ten people in there comfortably. Maybe less, but yeah,
725
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.319
you've got your characters. And you see a guy walking
726
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.160
you're like, yes, I like I know that guy, I
727
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.400
know what he makes him laugh. I know this guy,
728
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.680
and yeah, you know, it's kind of like a revolving
729
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:24.359
door a sitcom. It would actually be a great premise
730
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:25.640
for a sitcom. It'd be brilliant.
731
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:27.799
And also, you know, when you have your little group
732
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.559
of friends in school, when you're younger and you feel comfortable,
733
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.400
then you can really be your authentic self in the sauna.
734
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.920
When you see someone new walk in, you know, hey,
735
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.680
who's going? And then you see someone that you.
736
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.160
Know, Hey who's going?
737
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.519
But I always try to include the new person and
738
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.039
they want to be part of it. You can see
739
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.839
by their body language that they're they're looking straight ahead,
740
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.599
but they're definitely listening because we're just letting city right
741
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:53.759
next to each other. And eventually I go, what do
742
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.279
you think of that? And then they'll go oh, And
743
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.000
then you.
744
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.799
Pull them in. I love pulling people in to the conversation.
745
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.440
I think that's great. Have you I've fucking failed miserably
746
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.000
at that. When you're trying to pull someone in and
747
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.480
they just give you nothing, you're like, I just leave
748
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:08.880
them off.
749
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:12.640
But I always you can see them sometimes they're ignoring you,
750
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.480
as if like no no interest in conversation. But then
751
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.240
now and again, when you're laughing or talking about something,
752
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.359
you can just see their eyes looking over and you
753
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.200
have a little smile cracking on their face. You know
754
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.759
they're still listening, and I think they don't realize it.
755
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.359
But this is this is my idea, and I like
756
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.160
what I think. People go to the son AND's goin
757
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.079
to escape the worlds. But then when you go to
758
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.079
the sauna and you're there on your own, and there's
759
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:36.960
two other people in there, and you're all quiet and
760
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.279
you're trying to meditate, you know yourself, the heat is
761
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:41.759
on top of you, and you can that you have
762
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:43.680
those thoughts in your mind that you're trying to get
763
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.880
rid of those negative thoughts. The quickest way to get
764
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:48.720
rid of the negative thoughts is be wrong people that
765
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:50.559
are talking about something different, Do you know what I mean?
766
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:51.039
I love it.
767
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.039
Sometimes I'm in there kind of going God to the
768
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.240
point am I thinking about this certain idea in my head?
769
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:57.880
The next thing you pulled into that kind of a conversation.
770
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.640
You walk out feeling better. You feel better because it's connection.
771
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.000
You know, four hundred thousand years are doing that, and
772
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.079
then all of a sudden, this phone comes in in
773
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:06.839
one generation, we kind of forgot how to do it.
774
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.480
A big part of it is not having distractions. Like
775
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.480
that's such a huge case in film. I think that
776
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.480
people aren't stating is like, sure, you've got Netflix, you
777
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.720
can be in the comfort of your own home, But
778
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:20.039
to go somewhere and not be allowed to use your
779
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.079
phone and have a complete blackout and just a film
780
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.799
adventure coming through the You know, a good film hopefully
781
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.720
is totally different from being a home or being around
782
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.759
because you got your phone with you. That's the one
783
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:33.759
thing you know, there's no distractions. You focus, and that's
784
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.400
how you absorb something great like Jassic Park for the
785
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.000
first time that when we were in LA and they
786
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.000
were talking about it and talking to producers over there,
787
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.039
there's people getting notes saying that it's not second screen enough.
788
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.839
Like you give them an idea, a plot or whatever,
789
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.559
and they're like, yeah, it's not second screen enough, and
790
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.559
you're like the fuck you're talking about and he's like,
791
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.200
second screen enough. It means like you've got to account
792
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.640
for the data on Netflix or whatever. And the data
793
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.200
is most people are going to be having their phone
794
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.559
in front of them, just rolling news and social media
795
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:03.720
while the movie's on. So if you don't make it
796
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.319
basic as fuck and keep hitting that same plot point
797
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.039
over and over explaining who the characters are all that
798
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.400
shit about fifty times in the movie, they're not going
799
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.519
to get it right. But because it's data driven metrics
800
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.199
now and they're like figuring out what's going to suit
801
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:20.079
most people and be less of a risk to take,
802
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.119
you're just not getting people take chances like back to
803
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.119
the Future. If you're watching that for the first time
804
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:25.960
and you miss a key path and you're not coming
805
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:26.440
back from it.
806
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:28.639
Yeah, I never went into them when people the one
807
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.360
day he was hearing for years was like, oh, people's
808
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.360
memory span is too short. Now, you know, you've got
809
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.079
to be me to the point. I never believe that
810
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.480
because I was at the LA State Fair and I
811
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.239
was helping out to skuy pitching products and they put
812
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.599
me with a guy I was pitching the same product
813
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.840
for seven years, and I was watching him, and they
814
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:48.480
gave me the script and I looked at the scripts
815
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:51.159
and I said, Goddess is des but hard to get it,
816
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.559
Like what d hen you know, just didn't get my
817
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:56.320
robot or something. So I just threw way a script
818
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:58.320
and this guy left and we were doing like two
819
00:34:58.320 --> 00:34:59.480
hours up, two hours down.
820
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.199
And he left, and I was.
821
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.480
Doing old school off the back of a truck, some
822
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.400
massive fear of work in the streets, so so bigel
823
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:11.639
and I was just looking at the people, the crowds,
824
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.639
and one guy goes, oh, hello, would you like to
825
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.519
see how it works? No, okay, thanks very much, would
826
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:18.880
you like to see how it works? But my thing
827
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.000
is I can belly up an edge, pull a crowd
828
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.360
really quick, very fast, and then I'll work out the product,
829
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.039
you know. So this guy walked away and I was like,
830
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:28.800
all right, right, he's gone, knowing right, it was like
831
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.239
my first day America, for the first day doing like
832
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.559
a state fair for some dudes, you know, give me
833
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.559
a bit of a percentage. And I just started like
834
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.599
a bang, you know, and I pulled the crowd in
835
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:41.840
and I was like right now, right here, watching what
836
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:43.440
I'm going to do, and I'm going to show you
837
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.280
how it works. And I started showing him how the works.
838
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.360
Then I kept on changing my tonality and voice hire her,
839
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.000
almost like an auctionaire. But then I dropped it down,
840
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.320
went all serious again, and then I just told him
841
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.079
a story that had nothing got to do with the product.
842
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.800
And I was on this random story, but they were
843
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.039
all listening to me once I had their attention, and
844
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.159
he goes, oh, guys, let's go back to the product.
845
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.320
And then I slowed it right down. And then I
846
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.239
just went a little bit harder and I goes, right now,
847
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:09.480
right here, do you know what I'm going to do?
848
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.000
Biggest crowd. I've had all datings, biggest biggest crowd, whom
849
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.320
ever going to get this whole month? And I'll pop
850
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.000
this in for free disparate And instead of selling one
851
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.599
for twenty, I was doing five four, one hundred, and
852
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.719
I ran the register. There was just a cue of
853
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.280
people and they did more two hours than they did
854
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.679
the whole day. And the main guy that saw me,
855
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:29.920
the boss guy, he came up and he was like going,
856
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.079
and I thought he'd mass script. I thought he just
857
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.119
got this guy's a legend now. And he pulled me
858
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.119
off the stand and he brought me outside, and I
859
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:38.599
don't know what he was thinking, but he was like,
860
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.480
I was the master, I was the best of this,
861
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.360
I'm the best of all time. You don't do it
862
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.039
like that, you don't do it. And I was like what,
863
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:48.000
And he was like going people's attention span and even
864
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:50.199
done about this big role Spencer, And I was like
865
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.119
all right, And then I just kept him happy and
866
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.599
went back onto the stand. But they all forget that.
867
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.920
It's the story. If you can pull people in with
868
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.800
a good story and a good scene, a good hope intro,
869
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.519
a good hope, a good scene, a good intro. Even
870
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.800
you have the music to play with as well, if
871
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.320
it's good enough. If we walk up the street there
872
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.800
and there's an argument in the street with two guys,
873
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.840
we're all going to stop and watch. Some guy gets
874
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:18.800
knocked on by car, We're all going to stop. If
875
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.000
something like it's a heart attack in the street, we're
876
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.920
all going to stop and watch. It's just that that
877
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:27.119
emotion people are looking at each other. It's the same
878
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.199
thing for a thousand years, you know. But I agree
879
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:35.039
with you, eh, what you were saying earlier about the database.
880
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.760
Yeah, like if you were to do that with comedy,
881
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.280
which you're probably saying, you know, you just imagine what
882
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.159
comedy comedians are they using chat gbtata rather they just
883
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.119
definitely because right as block of motherfucker, you know, and
884
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.679
you got five minutes to write in, you're about ten
885
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:51.920
minutes to do it, so you want to do like
886
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.719
you know, that is a temptation. It's dog shit, but
887
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:58.079
it gets them out of like the hard bit because
888
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.280
I think writing and realizing, oh fuck, I got nothing right,
889
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.920
that's the hardest bit. So that's learning off all of
890
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.519
those dudes, and they're all sharing. There's probably ten dudes
891
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.840
riding this saying the same jokes in different parts of
892
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:11.800
the world. The chat GVT is just spurred it out
893
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.599
a similar, very very similar thing. But actually, do you
894
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.719
know what, because I've used AI a lot now and
895
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.800
I started to think that maybe creativity is the superpower
896
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.599
now it is because I don't know if chat JPT
897
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.360
can be creative, Like can AI ever be truly creative?
898
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:29.880
I'm not sure.
899
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.519
I remember before you'd go on and then would say,
900
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:35.119
or can you see the traffic light? Some sort of
901
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.880
a code to be software. How many mortor bikes from
902
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:38.960
this picture, but.
903
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.239
I think they catch a code. Y.
904
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.800
We go back to the sauna and these five guys
905
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:44.880
walk into the sauna and one sort of starts the
906
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:48.000
conversation and it just keeps rolling and going in different directions,
907
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.679
with different emotions in different times days a seashell rolling
908
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.679
around the ocean. If there was some way to capture that,
909
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.880
there's no way I AI could know where the conversation
910
00:38:58.000 --> 00:38:58.400
is going to go.
911
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:00.559
Yeah, and we're on like this.
912
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.079
Well, the creative person might be writing like this, and
913
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.639
I can look at all Shakespearean writes and stuff, But
914
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:09.360
the minute there's three or four people together, there's no
915
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:12.079
way the computer can figure out where that conversation is
916
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:12.440
going to go.
917
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:16.119
Yeah, you know, especially strangers. But like we're all watching
918
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.719
the same media at the moment. Yeah, maybe that, But eventually,
919
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:21.480
if you just three or four different people and a
920
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.239
woman walks in with a colorful bikini, all the mints
921
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.400
stop and go quiet, and she leaves and in one
922
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.800
gog we go, oh Jesus, she's gorgeous.
923
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:32.280
Ever, you know, if you don't know where it's going.
924
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, because I have a nerdy streak,
925
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:37.199
and I play this game called Magic, the gathering I
926
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:38.880
got stuck into in high SCHOOLCAU I want to know,
927
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.039
boys school, we were in this nerdy shit and then
928
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:42.800
but it sort of made a reassurgence and I played
929
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.599
a little bit of it and I went in. I thought,
930
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.280
I'm getting pretty good at this, Like I'm beating most
931
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:47.360
of my friends. So I'm going to go in the
932
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.400
tournament just to see what it's like. And so I
933
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.239
enrolled myself in this tournament a in Kennington. You know,
934
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.599
there's a shop out there, so I think there's all
935
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.559
these tables and there's all these days and I walk in. Dude,
936
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.719
I'm like, holy fuck, there's like nerdiest of the nerdy
937
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.559
rat Like I'm going to get fucked up, and like
938
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.760
you can. You buy your cards and you assembly your
939
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.000
deck and it's all unique and a sixty shit and
940
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.760
you're playing some dude, and so you're playing in sets
941
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:11.239
of four and you just got to beat the other
942
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:13.760
three dudes. As soon as I sit down, I realized,
943
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.440
I'm the only dude without autism. And this if I
944
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:18.840
have not got autism, I'm the only one in this
945
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.159
group that don't have it like one dude had it
946
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:22.840
in like a fucking made up language, like you know,
947
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:24.599
the Lord of the Rings. How they have like elvish
948
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:26.920
kind of writing. Yeah, there's a magic version of this
949
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:30.199
card FORRECTIONI This motherfucker had all these cards in Fororeccian
950
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.159
and was just reading it like you know, he just
951
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.840
it was just his thing for autism. I quickly realized, like, dude,
952
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.440
this guy's like computers. I can't beat them just by
953
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.199
playing by the rules. So I started doing all the
954
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.880
fucked up movies, like things that didn't make sense, that
955
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.320
will melt down. There was kind of like you can't,
956
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.039
why would you do? Why it's not how you and
957
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:50.000
then you just like take advantage of that and just
958
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.920
destroy them, like and it was like really successful because
959
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.199
it was just like so outside and it was like randomized,
960
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.239
you know, I just just killed this creature and then
961
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.960
do this sort of thing. And then I was like, man,
962
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:03.800
this is the way you play autistic, dude. You know,
963
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.079
you do the thing that's unexpected, that last there's illogical,
964
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:08.880
and then see how it goes. And I think that's
965
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.880
why the world might have to go that. How do
966
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:12.880
you make a lot of money in a new business.
967
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.800
In a brand new business, right, you have to be
968
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:18.559
illogical and create something.
969
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:22.079
We have to be Definitely, I've always just kind of
970
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.880
worked on my own over the years. I've always done
971
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:26.480
my own thing, you know, because I can make decisions
972
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:30.119
very fast and that turned over stuff very quickly. But
973
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.679
I think I would love to have been in a
974
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:38.320
room creating like a marketing strategy with a group of people.
975
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:38.719
Yeah.
976
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.000
I think I would just excel with the whole group
977
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:42.800
as well around me.
978
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:43.760
Why haven't you done that?
979
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:46.920
Just over the years, I just kind of like looked
980
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:50.159
at I can do this here, turn over this amount
981
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:51.719
of money, and then it just gives me a huge
982
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.039
amount of freedom and I can go off and travel
983
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.920
around the world like I've been in so many countries,
984
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.800
and I used to bring products in, sell it, get
985
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:04.360
the money, close the storage store, give the container back,
986
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:06.360
and I'm innosies.
987
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:08.960
Yeah, traveling through Argentina.
988
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.559
Up and Columbia or the middle of Nora and Canada,
989
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:15.719
are in talkio on the streets from a something, you know.
990
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.480
It's I mean, it's an addictive life. I've heard I've
991
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:21.039
got a really good business mentor and she said, you
992
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:24.800
go faster alone and further with people, So faster a
993
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.639
lawn and further with people. So like to get to
994
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.440
the next level when you're building something that is you know,
995
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.440
constant passive strain of income, like a company building or
996
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:35.199
something that you might need a group of people. But
997
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.639
I mean, I love that. That's why documentaries is my
998
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.599
favorite form of film to shoot, because you just immerse
999
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:44.000
yourself in a culture. You in bed, you learn, you immerse,
1000
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.519
you walk out with a story and hopefully it's beneficial
1001
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.119
to them. Yeah. So it's very nimble, and it is stressful.
1002
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.400
She goes wrong, you're in big trouble and you know
1003
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.000
you lose it. But I started taking one dude with me,
1004
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:58.719
and I realized the benefits of having two people. You know,
1005
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:00.599
he can just talk to someone body and I can
1006
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.440
be shooting this and with Donald to see if a
1007
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.199
camera equipment and bits and pieces, you know, I say, yeah.
1008
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:08.719
I remember years ago, I brought a guy on with me.
1009
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.360
He was an engineer and he was really bored, and
1010
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.079
I brought him into my world of just like going
1011
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.320
to markets and shows. Brought him into shopping center malls,
1012
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.199
and I remember the first week he could barely make
1013
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.679
eye contact with people, you know. But then I just
1014
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:28.360
started saying his strengths in his own personality and he
1015
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.559
was really fond of like elderly people and he loved
1016
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:31.320
chatting to them.
1017
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:31.760
You know.
1018
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:33.800
I was watching that, and it was just something I
1019
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:35.480
saw on him. I goes, I can work with this guy.
1020
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.079
I can make him better, you know, and then I
1021
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.599
started training as much as I could to make him
1022
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:42.880
his best, the best version of him. And then we're
1023
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.360
in a shopping center. We're young in Melbourne, and he
1024
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.639
was he was he was getting really really good. You know,
1025
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.039
I was watching him, but he just wasn't breaking through.
1026
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.280
He just wasn't breaking through, you know, he was going
1027
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.360
to just go stagnant together sile or comedy like know
1028
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.239
that this I got. My thing is like I was
1029
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:03.639
stop like one hundred people and I break it down,
1030
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.599
get fifty people, pull them in tight in the middle
1031
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.440
of them all. I get friendly with the security. They
1032
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.840
kind of leave me off, you know, and then management
1033
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:11.320
might give out to me a small but as well.
1034
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.199
But I don't think many people were doing the way
1035
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.239
I was doing it. Maybe in the nineteen twenties or
1036
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:20.280
thirties hungry, but he was like getting a group of
1037
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.960
twenty people and he might sell like four or five
1038
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.280
of them. And I was watching him and I was like,
1039
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.000
oh am I going to do this, you know the
1040
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.000
next thing one day. I hate a big crowd. And
1041
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:31.519
he was kind of giving me the look as if
1042
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.599
like look what I'm doing. And I walked up to him, like, go.
1043
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:35.719
Do you think he did good?
1044
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.599
And he was like, yeah, your shit, you're fired. You
1045
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:41.519
know what I think You're fired. I said, you can
1046
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:43.760
head back to Western Australia. I said forget it, you know,
1047
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.519
torch you everything, I said, just still doing the same
1048
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:49.159
old stuff he was, and you could see he was
1049
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.320
almost on the world, being emotional and because now I
1050
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:52.920
give up me and I said finish it, you know,
1051
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:55.800
I said, I've taught everything, and look what you're doing,
1052
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.639
you know, four or five people. And he's freaking all angry,
1053
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.920
and I could hear bubbling up his voice almost like
1054
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:01.400
the emotion.
1055
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:03.719
And he goes, go and show me so again, show me,
1056
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.440
and then his tonality and voice changed and he started
1057
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:11.039
getting angry or angry or understand talking to me, show
1058
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.440
me how the product works, almost like some guy that
1059
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.679
was going to explode. And I was looking at and
1060
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.480
I was like, yeah, yeah, go on, yeah, And I
1061
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.159
stood back and people started coming in front of me,
1062
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.679
you know, people started gathering up. The next thing, I
1063
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.719
started walking backwards from the crowd, and the crowd kind
1064
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:26.840
of walked in towards him.
1065
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.920
And next thing, I'm backing off the crowd. The crowd
1066
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.920
was getting bigger and bigger, and the whole mall was
1067
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:35.239
very stopped up. And then I'm looking at him and
1068
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.159
he's still angry with me. He wanted to punch me,
1069
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:38.559
you know, and I'm looking at him as if like,
1070
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:40.679
look at the crowd, look at the crowd, and he's
1071
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.000
still staring at me with his big red head up
1072
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:43.280
with him.
1073
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:44.360
I was.
1074
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.199
Anyway, I just looked at him and I went run
1075
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.559
the stand and I just goes change your tonalogy, look
1076
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.280
at the crowd. The next thing, he went what And
1077
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:56.320
he just looked and he's he's just opened and he
1078
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.599
just saw like one hundreds of people. And I was like,
1079
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.320
going closed him and I walked away from the crowd.
1080
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:06.280
And he closed fifty people and he took like fifty
1081
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.320
bucks off each person. It was big money, yea, and
1082
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:11.760
night he closed everybody. The next thing, at the end
1083
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.119
of the night by goes boom, and he was slangery
1084
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:15.639
with me because I just didn't want to hit you,
1085
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.920
you know, And I was like, well, might do it again?
1086
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.760
Do it again and again and again by this and
1087
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.960
then he was getting that he was getting little bit
1088
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.599
big headed in one night and he was working late
1089
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.519
on Thursday nights and another big mall, and I walked
1090
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.480
in and he was brilliant to this stage, but I
1091
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:34.920
just had to kind of leave him. And I walked
1092
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.719
in and then I created this massive chaos. I went
1093
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.360
too hard and security had to be called, and I
1094
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:42.800
was just cracking boxes and I had a stick and
1095
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.639
I was breaking a stick on the middle in the mall,
1096
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.079
Like you know, one of the biggest malls was like
1097
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:51.599
basking kind of style. But with products, it's almost like
1098
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:58.239
street performer slash comedian. If you had a blender street performer,
1099
00:46:58.239 --> 00:46:59.360
you're trying to sell me a blender.
1100
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:02.719
Drop a street.
1101
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.239
Performer, and drop a comedian, and drop an auctioneire in
1102
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:11.039
and then just drop in a crazy person. Yeah, and
1103
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.360
then you tried to get all those different parts of
1104
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.840
the voice in the story in the pitch.
1105
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:18.719
I became really good at it.
1106
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:21.360
I used to love breaking it down and prefer But
1107
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:25.360
I remember the most enjoyment I had over the years,
1108
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.280
I stopped carrying about clicking the money. I took on
1109
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:33.039
sixteen South Americans staff, and I had I was doing
1110
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:36.400
static lines, which weren't maybe pitch lines of demonstration. So
1111
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.800
you get people around and some of them had no English.
1112
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.039
I wrote a little script for them and I highlighted
1113
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:43.400
the words.
1114
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.760
Would have to change their voice for the words, you know,
1115
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.800
and I said, this is how you stop people, put
1116
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:50.360
them over blah blah blah, and that's how you close them.
1117
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.400
And then I noticed that I was trying to train them.
1118
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:56.199
So what I would do is I would train them
1119
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:58.599
one on one, spend two or three days, and I
1120
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.800
would see their personality and I would ask them questions
1121
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.000
about their family, their upbringing, and then I would just
1122
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.760
highlight something they told me in the story. Almost like
1123
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:11.079
like one guy who was in the soccer We'll say
1124
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:14.159
from Chile and he know English, and I was like,
1125
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.119
all right, but you know when you say they get
1126
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.199
the goal, you go go yeah, and he was like
1127
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:24.559
yeah yeah, and he goes, who Chili from Argentina. Argentina
1128
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.719
just got a goal. Chili's one goal, there's ten minutes left.
1129
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:31.159
What type of tonealogy would you talking to the team?
1130
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.440
And he was already getting excited in front of me
1131
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.599
with his neck and yeah yeah, one now read the
1132
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.559
script like that and I was like, oh, that show
1133
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:40.519
me now, and then I goes right eye contact. But
1134
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.199
the South Americans have very good body lamage. They're very
1135
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.480
good body damage now. And then one girl was super shy,
1136
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:48.960
and I goes, that's great, so you're like to pritty ship.
1137
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.599
I found each one of them needed a message for
1138
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:58.880
their brain to click. But then watching their confidence grow
1139
00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:03.760
was just so rewarding. And I would just say on Monday,
1140
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.159
look what you can do on Monday, And look what
1141
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.119
you can do on Friday. Remember your first day, remember today,
1142
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:12.280
Remember now next week. Then I'm gonna give the massive incentives,
1143
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:13.920
you know. And it was just me and then so
1144
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.400
it was just I was just the boss. Were just
1145
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.360
all working for me. And I had eight shopping centers,
1146
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:22.679
sixteen staff, two in each center, and I turned them
1147
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:27.079
on into just like create salespeople. But more importantly, I
1148
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.480
brought them all out for dinner every Sunday night to
1149
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.159
this speak Irish bar, and I was just watching them
1150
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.960
all around me, and I was like going their confidence
1151
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.719
and they had no English, like, they had no English
1152
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.000
in their confidence. And one guy told me a very
1153
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:42.599
good story. His name was Diego and he was my
1154
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:44.599
bag man, and he'd go and colleck the stuff for me,
1155
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.000
you know. And I had him a van, I had
1156
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.320
him a car in a truck, and he a girl
1157
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.880
friend with him. But remember when he called me. I
1158
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.239
was at some show in Western Australia and he called
1159
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:56.239
me up and he.
1160
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:59.639
Said, hello, Ronnie. He said I'm looking for a job,
1161
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:01.440
you know. And I was like, oh, yeah, jash no,
1162
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:03.840
I wash, yeah, Diego sounds good. Tell me all about it.
1163
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:05.119
He's gonna tell me about himself. You know.
1164
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.599
I was an engineer and chili and I could, God
1165
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.800
do you what is you? And he's like going, I'm thirty.
1166
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.119
This is years ago. I was in my twenties.
1167
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.599
And he goes, I'm thirty two years of aach and
1168
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:17.480
I goes, oh, sorry, Diego, you're much too old.
1169
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:22.559
And I hung up hated for about ten to fifteen minutes.
1170
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:26.000
I called him back and I said, little Diego. He's like, yes,
1171
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:26.880
this is Diego.
1172
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:28.559
I say, God, Diego money joke.
1173
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.920
And you're hired and he's like what. He's like, oh,
1174
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:32.920
thank you so much.
1175
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:35.159
When I got friend of me was like, oh, I
1176
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.039
was with my girlfriend Carolina and she said, how is
1177
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:39.920
it going On the first conversation, he was like, yeah,
1178
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.079
toms up, tombs up, and then he put the phone down.
1179
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:47.039
She goes, what happened? He said, I'm too. When I
1180
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.559
became great bodies with him and he was a great guy.
1181
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.280
I'm still very good friends with him, Carolina and Diego.
1182
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.960
How much of it is being Irish? Do you think
1183
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.719
like being another coaches in other countries, does that help
1184
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:03.000
you sort of trendscend because Irishly known for being fun
1185
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:06.760
and lovable and headbutting you, but it also fun and lovable,
1186
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:10.320
you know, like it is it is? I think so
1187
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:10.800
as well.
1188
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:12.840
I would be I supposing the cultural of things, but
1189
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:14.519
I would have gone to school with a lot of
1190
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.679
guys that have been very quiet and they will come
1191
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:19.559
out to Australia and they would have just got a
1192
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:21.760
job and stuff. So I think it's more got to
1193
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.920
do with their personality, you know, and the confidence that
1194
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:30.920
people get along the way and overcoming something. I think
1195
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.199
like I was able to show people's sales, but if
1196
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.480
you learn any skill and at the start of that skill,
1197
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.480
you're learning and you're not so good at it. But
1198
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:43.360
if someone shows you very quickly, look how good you
1199
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:45.039
can become at this with just a little bit of
1200
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.760
an effort, bit of work. And it doesn't matter what
1201
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:48.119
it is.
1202
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:48.639
I don't care.
1203
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:51.119
It was building a coffin, and it sounds strange building
1204
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:54.840
a bicycle, but learning something and seeing how good you
1205
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:59.159
can become a bit of effort. And what happens there
1206
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:03.320
in that line is I think people don't realize it.
1207
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:06.639
You're building confidence in that person, and that's a seed
1208
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.000
you have that I don't matter you hear it like
1209
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:10.800
a lot of people's no jiu jitsu.
1210
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:11.800
Now it's big.
1211
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.639
That's a rhythm of confidence growing. And it could be writing,
1212
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.119
it could be doing stand up, it could be swimming
1213
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:21.760
in the ocean. But my biggest thing is confidence. Confidence
1214
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:23.719
can change people instantly.
1215
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:25.480
It can just pull it. I don't care what you're
1216
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:28.280
studying in school, how good you are you go through university.
1217
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.599
You can be working for someone for thirty years if
1218
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.719
you do something and you just give it a little
1219
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:37.199
bit of confidence. Because sometimes people don't get confidence growing up.
1220
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.639
They don't get that punched on the shoulder saying good job,
1221
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:41.760
you got stock in you did a good job. You know.
1222
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.599
Sometimes people are too critical and children and stuff, you know,
1223
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.920
but like if you get a little bit of confidence,
1224
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.480
and sometimes you just I just want to say, punch
1225
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.239
the confidence into someone. In a very violent analogy. He's
1226
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:56.920
looking for stuff around the desk to punch.
1227
00:52:58.320 --> 00:52:59.920
I get frustrated. I think as I can see like
1228
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.320
how good someone can be and they just lack of confidence,
1229
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:05.960
and they did just that little bit of like, come on,
1230
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:07.840
believe in yourself. You know you can do this.
1231
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.880
And I think teachers should do a course in that.
1232
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.280
I had one teacher in school and I wasn't very
1233
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:16.679
good at school. I had no interest really, but one teacher,
1234
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:18.599
he was a woodwork teacher, and we all had to
1235
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.280
do drawings. And it's amazing the stuff that you'll remember.
1236
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.119
A lot of people remember the stuff when people are
1237
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.960
knocked and you always remember that. But I always remember
1238
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.920
one woodwork teacher and we're doing drawings, draw furniture and
1239
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.199
I was just drawing. I knew how to drew that
1240
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:34.679
box to make it look like three D bottles, drawing
1241
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:37.559
this massive furniture and I drew love hearts and you
1242
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.320
cut the love hurt, and I kind of got furry
1243
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.920
into it. It was like a big paper and it
1244
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.000
was like a tech room and we're all drawing, and
1245
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:46.480
at my class was the delinquents, like you know, we
1246
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:48.760
were like the link wents like you know, and it
1247
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:52.000
drains and he just caught me and then everybody's leaving
1248
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.360
and he pulled me back and he goes, did you
1249
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.199
do this? And I said yeah. He said, that's a phenomenon.
1250
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:01.199
He goes, that's incredible. But I was kind of smart
1251
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:04.079
enough as a kid street wise. I knew what he
1252
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:04.559
was doing.
1253
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:05.800
You know.
1254
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.760
It's almost saying to a woman that it's beautiful on you.
1255
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:09.800
It's like an an out trick.
1256
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:11.960
He knew he was doing it. But at the same time,
1257
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.000
I felt good that he made the effort to say
1258
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.320
to me. So I always made an effort to do
1259
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:21.079
well in his class, and then I didn He pulled
1260
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:24.679
me aside another day and he bounced me up against
1261
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:28.440
the lockers in the room, old school teacher, and he asked,
1262
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:32.400
one of you, you're laughing and joking, He said, your
1263
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:35.719
massive potentially, and you're just wasting your time here. You know,
1264
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.760
he said, if you just make a little bit of effort.
1265
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:42.039
That that little speech he gave me, who became the
1266
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:43.840
best in the class. That I was taking everybody als
1267
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:46.400
his projects and doing their projects as well. And then
1268
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:50.280
I had another teacher and then but I would laugh
1269
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:52.719
that other teachers then would give you an awful knocking
1270
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.480
because they're bitter, they're an alcoholic, and they would say
1271
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:56.000
you're losing.
1272
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:57.079
You're not going to go anywhere.
1273
00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:59.599
I would look at them and I'd be smiling at
1274
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:00.400
them as flake.
1275
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:03.719
You know, this is HILARI. You think that's going to
1276
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:04.960
break me. But I was at the kid.
1277
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:06.639
But there was other guys in the class that that
1278
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.320
teacher said it to them. They crumbled something like that
1279
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:13.880
to another fellow. We crumble. And I could see teachers
1280
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.679
doing not the other guys. They crumbled. I find that's that.
1281
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:18.360
But anyway, that's the only time I kind of got
1282
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:21.000
a joint part of the group. Was training those those
1283
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.199
people are working for me. That made me feel great, Hey,
1284
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:24.679
training them is in our confidence.
1285
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:24.800
Go.
1286
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:25.320
Yeah.
1287
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:27.719
A real moment for me growing up was I was
1288
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:29.199
in I wenton all boys school, so I was a
1289
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:31.599
bit old school British sort of stuff, and I was
1290
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.199
an Irish. We had an Irish biology teacher. We actually
1291
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:36.159
had him in the year ten before he split into specialties.
1292
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.039
Here was brutal man. His name is mister Nolan. He
1293
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.840
was a rugby coach as well, and I just I
1294
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:42.360
don't know what I did to chase him off, like
1295
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.320
I think, actually I know what I did to chase
1296
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.880
him off. There was this poor old lady called missus
1297
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:49.480
King was a lab assistant, and she made like all
1298
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.079
these different layers of all these different elements that floated
1299
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.639
in different places in water, you know, like thick in
1300
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:56.480
the water, heavy oil at the top, and it was
1301
00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:59.519
all color coded and beautiful. And then my dam as
1302
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.119
thought that if I tipped it to the side, it
1303
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:02.679
was like a magic trick. And I put it back off,
1304
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:05.679
we'd all go back together. And mister Nolan just shredded me.
1305
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:07.320
And I'm like, man, I thought I was supposed to
1306
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:08.880
go back, like it is the whole point of this
1307
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.880
stupid thing. He hated me from like day one. And
1308
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.119
I sat next to this really cool kid. He was
1309
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:15.719
from Labors and he was a border because it was
1310
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:17.960
a boarding school, well called Tom. I always say his
1311
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.199
last name He's a good dude, real good dude. And
1312
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:24.880
he was like totally totally unfazed by anything. And so
1313
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.199
mister Nolan's like your fat, you're lazy, this, you know whatever.
1314
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:30.559
It is like this water of a duck's back. Shit
1315
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:32.159
that would like make me wither, you know, because I
1316
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:33.920
had a little bit of like that. I wanted the
1317
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:36.880
people please, you know, and please a teacher. He was
1318
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.440
just fucking destroying this kid. And this kid was just
1319
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:41.159
sitting there like I don't get a flying fuck right
1320
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.360
like and just water of for ducks back. And I
1321
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.559
remember looking at him going like the whole class is
1322
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.559
kind of like trying to do their work, but trying
1323
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.679
to look at Tom see if he's like dying and
1324
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:51.760
just don't give a fuck. He just did not give
1325
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:53.440
a fuck. I don't know if it was growing up
1326
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.199
in labors and or something. And he played on the
1327
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:57.679
rugby team as a second rower, big like literally like
1328
00:56:57.840 --> 00:56:59.760
man boobs, you know, like kind of like not just
1329
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:03.320
mostly just like fucking chunks. So yeah, and just gut it,
1330
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:05.840
not give a fuck. And I remember thinking, you are
1331
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:09.159
the coolest dude I've ever seen, and I'm never going
1332
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.519
to give a fuck as much like I'm never going
1333
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.559
to get rich yours and style, but I'm also never
1334
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.559
going to try and give a fuck again, because that
1335
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:19.199
is the coolest thing to sit there with a grown
1336
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.679
adult just abusing the shitty you're saying the meanest shit
1337
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.760
he could think of. You didn't give a fuck, literally
1338
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.119
give a fuck this guy, this guy, I got a
1339
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:27.840
story about this dude. Right, So we had a religion
1340
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.920
exam in class. We had this old teacher. I'm gonna
1341
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:32.679
say these people's names because I'm going to know people
1342
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.440
that know people. But anyway, I had this old Italian cher.
1343
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.280
She was an Italian religion teacher. And if you went
1344
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:39.920
to a quinta see you and know this lady. In
1345
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.639
class exam, you just had normal class desk steady desks
1346
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:44.000
or whatever. You had to split them up to like
1347
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.760
a meter apart from everyone asen or all individual. So
1348
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:49.320
I'm in the second row from the back, and then
1349
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:51.440
this kid was the next to mean biology that I
1350
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:53.679
was just talking about. He's sitting behind me. And then
1351
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:55.960
I got my mate to the roatomy. And there's a
1352
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.159
window in this room and it looks out into the river.
1353
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.000
It's like kind of a quiteas is like on the
1354
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.559
river in the bay. And anyway, we start this religion
1355
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.119
exam and I'm looking through the pages, going, oh my god,
1356
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:09.079
what the fuck? How can I bluff all this shit?
1357
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:10.480
Because I went to church, I tried to sunk in
1358
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:14.000
and then Catholic stuff, and so I'm so I started
1359
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.039
working and I'm like, man, that sounds like fucking fire.
1360
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:18.199
You're like a bush fire, but it wasn't uncommon to
1361
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:20.800
be a burnoff and just waffed in the window, and
1362
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.280
it just sounds. It smells real close. So I sort
1363
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:27.000
of like look around and I see the greatest site
1364
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:29.679
you've ever seen in your life. Right, this kid has
1365
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:32.719
kicked his plastic chair back so it's resting against the wall.
1366
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.159
He's put his feet up on the desk, and he's
1367
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:39.559
rolled his religion exam into a tube and he's lit
1368
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:42.559
it and it's smoking out like a fucking cigar. Right,
1369
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:46.800
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? And like
1370
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.880
I'm looking at the teacher and she's just down minded
1371
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:50.840
her own business at the front, right, So I'm like,
1372
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:53.679
what the fuck are you doing? And then I like,
1373
00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:55.480
nun's the kid in my mate next to me. I'm like,
1374
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:57.320
trick that shit out. We looked back. He's like, what
1375
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.920
the fuck, and then like, Tom, what are you doing? Man,
1376
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.519
You're gonna get Boston. He's like he just looked like
1377
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:06.079
he looked at me. He took a puff of his exam,
1378
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:08.599
split it out, and goes, I don't give a fuck
1379
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:12.320
about religion. I was like, oh my god, right, I'm
1380
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.880
already like inhabed with this fucking dude's attitude. So this
1381
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:17.159
is just the coolest time, all right, buddy. So I
1382
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:19.039
sit back, I'm giggling the whole time, and I'm trying
1383
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:21.679
to do my fucking exam. And so this is like
1384
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.760
right before lunch, right, So he just like fucking walk
1385
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:26.559
out the door. We all plump our exams on the
1386
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:29.239
you know, she's like, pens down the lunch belt. You
1387
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:31.079
don't jumping on a desk cause you're going out the door.
1388
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:33.559
He just walks the fucking straight up. So I got
1389
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:36.679
all our friends and we're like, I was like, Tom, man,
1390
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:38.840
this guy's name. I'm like, he didn't give a fuck, right,
1391
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:40.280
he just is it. And we were all like killing
1392
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:42.880
ourselves laughing. There was a day off and then the
1393
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:44.679
exams are supposed to be marked. Them back and the
1394
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:47.199
next you know, the day after that. So we're like, dude,
1395
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:49.559
you're gonna get fucking expelled, Like what are you gonna do?
1396
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:52.079
It's like hunger, fuck fuck whatever. He gives a ship,
1397
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:55.719
you know, and so we're like dude, okay. So anyway,
1398
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:58.920
she's like handed out of the exams. Everybody's sitting there
1399
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.760
like could to pin drop. We're like waiting for this
1400
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:04.480
to get right. So this hit wes he's fucking exam
1401
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.400
and so she's like yeah, yeah, a yeah. Whenever I
1402
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.239
get to him, like all right, I couldn't I couldn't
1403
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:15.119
find your exam. And he's like what. She's like, no,
1404
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.119
I couldn't you know, did you? What did you do
1405
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:19.280
with your exam? My stuff? And everyone's like man, you
1406
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.960
get fucking smashed. And he's like, na I handed it
1407
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:26.679
in and she's like what oh, oh man, where is it?
1408
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.199
Like going through papers now, oh I can't find it.
1409
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:31.039
I can't find it. All right, listen, would you be
1410
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:35.039
happy with class average? And she's like the class average
1411
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:37.719
is like seventy eight? Would you be happy with seventy eight?
1412
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:41.559
And it's like fus, I'm smarter than these idiots, Like
1413
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:48.599
all right, class average plus ten percent, we're like, mother fuck.
1414
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:52.800
And he wasn't doing it for like a prayer. He
1415
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:55.360
wasn't doing it to get anything, any popularity anything. He's
1416
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.559
just was doing it because that was him, and he
1417
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:02.920
went on to do pretty good things. Crazy hey. Yeah. Yeah.
1418
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:05.920
But the ability to not give a fuck, whether that
1419
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:07.920
comes from being rich. You know, you got enough money
1420
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:09.480
you can just tell people to fuck off all the time.
1421
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:10.679
I've got it.
1422
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:12.920
I've got what it takes to like cockroach my way
1423
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:14.639
out of it if you guys badly. Yeah, I think
1424
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:17.119
it's just like the attitude. Hey, but it's just almost
1425
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:20.760
like yeah, fuck off. Yeah, it really is just like, yeah,
1426
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:22.440
what are you talking about?
1427
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:25.880
You know? Well, I just think you what would you know?
1428
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.039
Like you tell me it won't work? How do you
1429
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:29.440
know that?
1430
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.000
I found a very school. The school is the first
1431
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.639
place you see it. But I remember teachers, and I
1432
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:39.400
was reading the teacher before they even start talking that morning,
1433
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.840
walking in, I see about their shoulders, they're angry or whatever,
1434
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:45.719
and I was just looking at like, I don't want
1435
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.559
to be learning from this guy. He's not happy, he
1436
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:51.400
doesn't look like he's winning. He's not a winner. You
1437
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:53.559
know why don't I want to be listening to this guy.
1438
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:55.280
And then another guy would come in and.
1439
01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.800
He was very enthusiastic and he'd write roam across the
1440
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:01.199
board and he would.
1441
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.800
Say, today we learned wrong. Yeah, and he was just
1442
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:08.360
so excited about history. And I love the history class,
1443
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.679
you know, well in history. But like other teachers, I
1444
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:15.480
would just look at them and I'm like the messenger.
1445
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:19.280
They're obviously the messenger. They're trying to teach something they've learned,
1446
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.760
you know, through a textbook or whatever. They lost the
1447
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:23.400
passion or something along the way.
1448
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.440
Or whatever, and I'm like, going, I'm not listening to you.
1449
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.159
You know, it's like talking to someone on the phone. No,
1450
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:32.639
and you can hear from their voice they don't want
1451
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:34.840
to be on the other side of the phone. Yeah.
1452
01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:35.000
You know.
1453
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:38.679
It's almost like you go to the bar and you're
1454
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.280
talking to a girl and she's just talking to you,
1455
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:44.159
and she's been quite but she's not interested. You know,
1456
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:47.159
you can just feed it from them. I want to
1457
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:48.920
be here, but you don't want to be here. Yeah,
1458
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:50.559
I'm making an effort, but you know what I mean.
1459
01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:52.519
So I had at the same school there was like
1460
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:54.199
so there's a lot of teachers like that. They didn't
1461
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:55.079
give a fuck, And it's hard.
1462
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:56.679
I got a teaching degree and I've thought a bit,
1463
01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:59.960
and it's tough because you know, you finish one year,
1464
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.199
are with those kids who took them from there to there,
1465
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:04.719
and you just so they're your little dudes, and then
1466
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:06.920
you go back to the square one and you do
1467
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:08.840
that whole year again, and it's just like, well, how
1468
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:11.039
do you grow as a human, you know, if that's
1469
01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:12.880
what you're doing all day? And the kids are fun
1470
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.079
and there's a little you know, poor personalities and things.
1471
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:18.199
Jokes make them laugh and they love you know, they're
1472
01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:20.480
discovering roll dahal or shit, you know what. And it's
1473
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:23.360
just it's fucking awesome. But doing it year and years
1474
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:26.719
tough writing anything. Yeah. We had we had this old
1475
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.480
Christian brother called Brother Cleary. And here's an absolute legend.
1476
01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:32.639
Here's eighty six or something now, but he would know
1477
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:35.079
your name, like he would just learn your lame in
1478
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:37.440
year eight or he'd be like pull you over, have
1479
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:39.599
a little chat, just figure out what makes you tick
1480
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:41.880
and then just never forget you. He did this thing,
1481
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:45.519
Richard Raw. He's like a real good practitioner of working
1482
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:49.239
with boys teenagers specifically, I think teenage boys, and that
1483
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.039
can go either way because if you got shitty mates,
1484
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:53.880
Like the number one killer of kids under the age
1485
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:56.719
of I think twenty one or eighteen or something is accidents,
1486
01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.440
and the number one cause of accidents is other teenagers.
1487
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.639
So like a lot of what you become depends on
1488
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:04.280
the mates you're hanging out with, you and your teenager.
1489
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:08.440
And so in year ten, we did a school retreat. Right,
1490
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:11.119
it's in paper, pretty shitty, like you got to go,
1491
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:14.719
and usually it's about God and church and reflections and stuff.
1492
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:16.960
And anyway, he took a retreat. He invented this thing.
1493
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:19.679
You go out there and you do a little bit
1494
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:21.679
of that stuff, and then there's one night where it's
1495
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:24.960
like a guided meditation. He puts on like Gladiator soundtrack
1496
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.159
or Braveheart or probably he said he does Interstellar. Now,
1497
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:30.480
I went to Israel with this guy shot at Doco.
1498
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.320
He's cooled anyway, so he asked him every question. So
1499
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:34.719
I sort of got a little bit of his secret
1500
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.199
recipe thing and he plays it and you're sitting in
1501
01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:38.880
a room. Theres about one hundred and fifty boys. There's
1502
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:41.360
your bullies, there's your dummies, as your smarties, as your
1503
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.760
fast runners. You know, it's all the different kind of people.
1504
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.800
And he plays this music and he says, all right, now,
1505
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:48.519
you know, close your eyes, and he talks about what
1506
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:49.800
it's to be a man and to want to be
1507
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:51.920
a good human and to contribute to the world and
1508
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:55.039
get past it. It just does this guided meditation like that,
1509
01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:56.920
and then he's like, right, close your eyes, and all
1510
01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:58.760
the teachers come out and they put down like little
1511
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:02.400
envelopes in front of you, and then and he's like, right, okay,
1512
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:04.440
everyone just opened your eyes and you'll see an envelope,
1513
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:05.639
you know, in your lap or in front of you.
1514
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:08.119
You can open that up now. I just have a
1515
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.199
bit of a choir read. So you open it up
1516
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:13.760
and you're pull them out, just like letters, tons of letters.
1517
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.679
And he's gone around for the whole year and collected
1518
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:18.840
letters from your friends and your family and your loved
1519
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.960
ones and just said, would you mind writing a little
1520
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:24.320
bit about your boy, you know, write about how you
1521
01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:27.199
truly feel. And the kid's like there was not a
1522
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:29.199
dry eye in the room, Like every kid is sobbing
1523
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:32.280
because the dad might have never said, son, I'm actually
1524
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:33.960
quite proud of you, you know, I know I don't
1525
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:35.920
show it at times, but and it was just like
1526
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:38.800
it's like fucking tears, man. This like whole thing was
1527
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.679
this guy, brother Cleary, Your brother Cleary. He's a legend
1528
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.159
at a quietas er. Yeah, he's like he was eighty six,
1529
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.440
eighty seven, he's David, you know, sort of that sort
1530
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.599
of age, and he's still his idea. Yeah yeah, yeah.
1531
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:52.760
He got it from Richard raw like you know, guided
1532
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:54.679
meditation stuff, but he's always tweaked it and put his
1533
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:56.960
own spin on it, and he's just an absolute superstar.
1534
01:05:57.639 --> 01:06:00.400
But it changes the trajectory of the whole life tends
1535
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.760
when everyone's starting to play out, because year nine, year tens,
1536
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.000
when you go nuts and you're getting a bit sick
1537
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:06.840
of school, you're doing the same fourth subjects plus a
1538
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:10.480
little lectures. And that really fixed all the issues. Every
1539
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:13.079
single kid came back, you know, and we were just
1540
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:15.719
one big cohort after that, Like there's the odd couple
1541
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.440
of nutcases, but for the most part, everybody was together,
1542
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:20.159
you know, our friends with It was like forty people
1543
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:22.840
strong playing handborne shit like that. So and it was
1544
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.400
just because of this one night this guy did this
1545
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:28.480
one thing connected with you, you know, and it was
1546
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:31.679
fucking awesome. But yeah, if you can connect with anybody
1547
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:34.199
when you're talking story, I think that's using language to
1548
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.280
connect something to somebody.
1549
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:40.239
Or like, like, I can see myself changing already. I'm
1550
01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:44.039
only edit four years, but I'm getting a massive following,
1551
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.960
especially in Western Australia. Tha's that's where you do your
1552
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.199
hard work. Yeah, that's where That's where I started here.
1553
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:54.159
But I think I can see my stories sort of changing.
1554
01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:57.440
I started off just making people laugh and it was
1555
01:06:57.559 --> 01:06:59.719
very self deprecating. I'm at the bottom of all the
1556
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:02.119
joy I like that, you know, it's easy for me
1557
01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:05.559
just to tell a story where something stupid happens. They're
1558
01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:08.199
all laughing through the story. But I can already feel
1559
01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:10.559
myself getting bored of that. And then I sort of
1560
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:13.559
leaning into how racism can bring you together. So I
1561
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:16.559
was walking that line and everybody was loving the stories
1562
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:18.519
because it was like how it can bring you together,
1563
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:21.119
you know. And then I talked a great story, one
1564
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:23.400
of my favorite stories, about a group of Aboriginal kids
1565
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.119
that I met in Portugusta that they're on a pontoon
1566
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:28.079
and I'm going to record that.
1567
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:28.599
I think that.
1568
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:30.000
I think that's one of the first ones I'm going
1569
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:32.079
to release that I'm really happy with. And it took
1570
01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:33.159
me by the time to work it out.
1571
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:34.639
There was a lot of awkwardness in the crowd and
1572
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:37.920
I'd say, yeah, there's just five Aboriginal kids. And then
1573
01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:39.639
there was some actor and Sydney came to me and
1574
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:41.880
he's like, I saw your show and loved it, but
1575
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.079
that that did you need to say Indigenous not Aboriginal?
1576
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:46.760
And I was like, oh, my eccentrics.
1577
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:48.800
Last night I did the show in front of five
1578
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:51.679
Aboriginal people and they absolutely loved it. And they never
1579
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:55.000
told me change it. You know, it's such a nice story. Yeah,
1580
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:56.760
but the very first time I did is the big
1581
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.599
room in the part and the amount of original guys.
1582
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:03.760
It's about the original and Irish Irish and Irish heritage
1583
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:06.280
that I came across the group that had Irish heritage
1584
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:07.840
and I was like what And I started telling me
1585
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:11.280
about their great great grandfathers and the story you'll see
1586
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:13.920
you're right on Whoa and all the comedians. The minute
1587
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:16.119
I did in one of the comedians was like, Ronnie,
1588
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:18.399
how's this story? And it was the first time I
1589
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:21.079
just came out of my normal I was just kind
1590
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:23.039
of going through the motions. I was like, make them laugh,
1591
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:25.840
thanks very much for coming. And then I just started
1592
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:28.439
exploring that story, and then and then the story with
1593
01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:31.800
an Indian bloke. I'm in a Manchester But then this
1594
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.920
year I've just added a nether layer and it's amazing
1595
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:38.560
what we talked about earlier, and I'm talking about community
1596
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:41.920
and the lack of community and the lack of people
1597
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.439
talking to each other. And one of the stories that
1598
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:48.520
I talked about was when I went to Edinburgh. I said,
1599
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:51.279
the first day I was there, my phone went dead.
1600
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:54.399
I actually started this off by going, guys, I'm going
1601
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.279
to change the rhythm of the show right now. I'm
1602
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:58.920
going to change the gears. But you'll remember this tomorrow
1603
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:01.800
more than nineteen else I've said tonight, you know, And
1604
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.880
I said, when I was in Edinburgh, first day I
1605
01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:07.359
was there, I had to go and find a bank machine,
1606
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:09.560
had to get money out. My phone was dead. I
1607
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:11.880
couldn't find Google Maps, so I stopped someone on the
1608
01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:14.199
street to ask them where the bank machine was. They
1609
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:17.039
gave me directions, and when I was walking away from them,
1610
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:20.600
I realized, when's the last time I asked someone for directions,
1611
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.560
I couldn't even remember. Do you know how many more
1612
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.800
people I asked for directions for the bank machine? I
1613
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:29.439
said nearly forty more people. It took me two hours
1614
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.840
to get to that bank machine. Two people told me
1615
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:33.920
great stories. One of the stories ended up into the
1616
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:37.199
show in Edinburgh. A lot of comedians come to Edinburgh
1617
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:40.039
and you need a big social media following. You need
1618
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.920
to be on the TV and BBC or Australian television
1619
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:46.119
to get any bit of a crowd come to your show.
1620
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:49.279
But someone told me, if you're really good at handing
1621
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:53.880
out flyers, you'll do well. So a lot of comedians
1622
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:57.000
don't like handing out flyers. They hire someone paying ten
1623
01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:00.680
pounds an hour to handout flyers. I said, no, no,
1624
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:03.600
I'm going to enjoy handing out flyers more than actually
1625
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:04.199
doing the show.
1626
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:04.640
Yeah.
1627
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:08.199
So I became the best at handing out the flyers. Yeah,
1628
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:11.159
and I handed out over twelve thousand flowers in Edinburgh,
1629
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:13.359
or the average guy would hand out maybe a thousand
1630
01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:16.359
if he's lucky. Right, So packing up my show every
1631
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:20.119
single day in Edinburgh like one hundred odd people, and
1632
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:22.920
one of the last days I was there, I met
1633
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:25.279
Jim on on he was in the same building and
1634
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:27.640
we love him in Australia. He met me in the
1635
01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:31.000
green room and he walked in and three years previously,
1636
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:32.880
I just was checking out Edinburgh and I went to
1637
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.039
see him twice and I was like, look at this guy.
1638
01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:38.359
This guy's And then in the green room last day,
1639
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:40.920
one of my last weekends there, he walked in and goes, oh,
1640
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:41.319
how's it going.
1641
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:42.640
My name's Jim you're working here.
1642
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:44.600
And I goes, oh, yeah, my name is Ronnie and
1643
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.439
he went, oh you you're a comedian from Irland. I goes, yeah, yeah,
1644
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:49.439
and he goes when he was asking a few questions
1645
01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:51.760
and he goes, hey, you got some good reviews. No,
1646
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:54.239
I've seen your reviews outside and he said that time's
1647
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:56.720
your show and I said it's on at seven and
1648
01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:58.239
he said I'm going to come to see your show
1649
01:10:58.319 --> 01:10:58.800
and I was like what.
1650
01:10:59.359 --> 01:10:59.960
I was like, all right.
1651
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:02.079
So he went to see the show and then another
1652
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:04.560
few comedians came in to see it as well. Irish
1653
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.279
comedians actually had never even heard of me. So I
1654
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:09.199
started over in Australia, you know stories, and he was
1655
01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:11.000
sitting at the back of the room. The room was packed,
1656
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:13.560
and I put my hand up at the start, I goes, oh, guys,
1657
01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:16.880
just for a bit of market research. I goes, not
1658
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:19.119
very big on social media. No one really knows me.
1659
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:21.960
I says, but who here today did I meet? From
1660
01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.640
handing down the flyer IK, ninety percent of the room
1661
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:27.359
put their hands there and Jim and just started roaring.
1662
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:28.560
Laugh in the back of the room because the dinner
1663
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:30.600
comedians of what the hell the go this guy? And
1664
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:32.600
next thing, I goes, Then there was a small group
1665
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:36.039
over to the left and I said, guys, you didn't
1666
01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:38.199
put your hand up. How did you hear about the show?
1667
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:41.720
And this guy goes, oh, well, about a month ago,
1668
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:44.359
he said, you came up to me and asked me
1669
01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:47.520
for directions of a bank machine. And he said, we
1670
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:49.840
saw your poster and we said we come out and
1671
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:52.239
support you. By geez, thanks very much. And there was
1672
01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.600
another crowd on this side of the room and he goes, guys,
1673
01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:55.960
you didn't put up your hand. How did you hear
1674
01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:58.600
about the show? And he been quiet and he goes, well,
1675
01:11:58.640 --> 01:11:59.920
he said that. He said, it's a bit strange.
1676
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.600
He said, he said, about a month ago, you also
1677
01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:06.079
asked me for directions of that machine, and the whole
1678
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:07.039
crowds to the laughing.
1679
01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:09.880
Yeah. But then what I said to the audience as
1680
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:12.920
I said, I said, I said, guys, it's sometimes all
1681
01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:14.880
you have to do is say hello, where are you from?
1682
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:17.600
And I said, you can start the whole conversation with people.
1683
01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:19.920
And I said, because of these phones, we don't do it.
1684
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:22.600
And then I turned around to the audience and this
1685
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:24.399
is what I'm going to do now. And I'm going
1686
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:28.000
to book the Astor Theater. That's what I'm just inquirying
1687
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:30.119
about it now and I'm going to book that. And
1688
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:32.359
I said to the audience. I turned around to him
1689
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:34.199
and I say, this is what I was doing every night.
1690
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:36.239
I said to the people, I said, now, growing up
1691
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:38.479
in Ireland, I was Catholic. And her mom used, bring
1692
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:40.439
us the church onto the roll twelve and she says,
1693
01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:41.800
up to you, if you want to keep going, I
1694
01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:43.760
was the last one. She was delighted and I said, no,
1695
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:45.920
I don't want to go anymore. She was like, oh,
1696
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:46.520
thank God for that.
1697
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:49.800
But in the church, me, my brothers, we would say
1698
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:51.800
halfway through the priest would say peace be with you.
1699
01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:53.840
So you have to turn on and shake other people's
1700
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:55.960
hands now. But me and my brother's just getting in
1701
01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:57.920
trouble because we have a game how many more hands
1702
01:12:57.960 --> 01:12:59.920
we could shay? We used to that, so we was
1703
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:03.119
jump over our mom be slapping us and pulling us backs.
1704
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:04.039
You're embarrassing me.
1705
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:06.600
So then I turned on to the crowd. And so tonight, guys,
1706
01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:09.199
we're all sitting next to each other. We all came
1707
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:11.840
in the same door. We're all laughing together. I guarantee
1708
01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:13.680
if some of you haven't even made eye contact with
1709
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.479
each other tonight, what we're gonna do right now, it's
1710
01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:18.319
turn around to the person next to you and say hello.
1711
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:20.520
Turn around to the person next to you and say hello,
1712
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:21.359
and shake their hands.
1713
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:22.119
Say this pump.
1714
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:23.880
If you don't to shake their hand, ask them where
1715
01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:26.600
they're from, and if the whole room lights up. And
1716
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:28.720
next thing, I'm like, how good does that feel?
1717
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:29.640
That's a sick idea.
1718
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:32.119
Next day, I turn around then and I'm doing that now.
1719
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:34.479
I've been doing it now since Edinburgh, every night. And
1720
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:37.359
now I turn around and I go, all right, guys, now,
1721
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:40.520
take your clothes off, let's have an RG. The next
1722
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:42.000
time I go. It's not a dead talk, it's a
1723
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:44.880
comedy show. I rip back into a story and then
1724
01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:47.199
I have a nether very It's a true story that
1725
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:50.359
happened down in Mandra years ago, and I need to
1726
01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:52.039
fix it up now to put it together. I know
1727
01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:53.800
how I'm going to do it now together. But it's
1728
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:56.520
just a nice good feeling in the middle of the show.
1729
01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:59.039
Yeah, but this is the one. Didn't that just see,
1730
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:01.079
I have a good body here in party. He's got
1731
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.439
you know, Andrew Woolf. Yeah, woofy woy. Yeah.
1732
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:06.119
Yeah, so he watches me a good witch. You know,
1733
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:06.920
I'm good friends with him.
1734
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:08.680
Yes, but he says to me, he was like, oh, man,
1735
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:11.840
so your style of just telling the stories, because last
1736
01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:14.880
year in part I was just trying new stuff and
1737
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:16.680
I had big crowds and I probably shouldn't have done
1738
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:17.760
it because they all bought a ticket.
1739
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:20.560
They were making it work. Each story was funny. But
1740
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:23.239
I like writing down stage and I was saying to work.
1741
01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:24.840
It was like, I got a new story. I got
1742
01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:27.560
a new story. He was like, you got there really stories.
1743
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.760
But he's brilliant Woolfy. But I was up and this
1744
01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:33.159
was the story I did that night in pert this year,
1745
01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:36.039
years ago. It was a Manajra shopping center, and I
1746
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:39.079
was selling vegetable shoppers and one of them was on
1747
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:41.039
TV and it was really hot. Everybody was coming up
1748
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:42.600
and buying it. And I used to do one for
1749
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:46.119
fifty dollars and one one TV was like one hundred bucks.
1750
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:47.920
So I was doing for fifty, and then I would
1751
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:50.600
do two for ninety. And then I was just getting
1752
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:52.399
bored in the shops and my whole thing was doing
1753
01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.960
jokes five potatoes, Mickey, Joey, Harry, Frankie and Tommy. Let
1754
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:57.920
me show you how to peel Tommy. Oh, Tommy's just
1755
01:14:58.000 --> 01:14:59.960
gone through divorce. Frankie just told me, anybody give you
1756
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:03.119
vegetables personalities. So I was always kind of doing the comedy,
1757
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:05.920
even years ago. A little bit big crowd would come around,
1758
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:08.760
and then I was there, I'm doing one for fifty,
1759
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.000
but if you can make a friend in the crowd,
1760
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:14.239
I'll do two for ninety, right, and we get it
1761
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:16.159
for forty five and two women would just look at
1762
01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:18.840
each other and go, oh, hello, we're together, and they'd
1763
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:21.119
give you and I go, you're together. What's that lady's name?
1764
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:23.359
And they would go, what, like, what's that lady's name?
1765
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:26.880
Your friends, and I goes going away over there now
1766
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:29.279
and find out each other's names, and you're trying to
1767
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:30.760
trick me, And they'd come back, and then she'd come
1768
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:32.279
back with the money and they'd be looking at a
1769
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:35.000
crazy Irish guy and they go, I'm Mary, she's Susanne,
1770
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:37.199
and they'd walk and I go, and what else do
1771
01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:39.520
you know about each other? Because you're not friends, you
1772
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:42.520
just you just changed each other's names. You're taking advantage
1773
01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:44.000
of me, I says, And I'm giving you to go
1774
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.000
over there now and try and find out a little
1775
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:46.359
bit more.
1776
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:48.279
Where's Mary from Suzanne?
1777
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:48.560
From her?
1778
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:50.960
You married to your family? Come on, make an effort now.
1779
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:54.199
And I was doing this for fun, for my own entertainment,
1780
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:57.079
like a social experiment with Australian. So I was doing
1781
01:15:57.119 --> 01:15:59.960
the town on Mandra all week. I was sending people.
1782
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:02.880
Two blokes would come up and yeah, I work together.
1783
01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:04.520
I guess what's his name? Or I don't know. So
1784
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:07.439
I was like going away over there. So anyway, five
1785
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.039
years later, I was back down in Mandra and I
1786
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:11.760
was doing these knives and I was down there and
1787
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.039
now I was getting the crowd around and I was
1788
01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:16.279
session up in the morning and this guy was walking.
1789
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.399
Through and he saw me. He goes, Hi, is your
1790
01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:19.079
name Ronnie?
1791
01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:22.640
I goes, Yeah, he goes here years ago, I goes,
1792
01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:24.680
I was and I was just thinking straight away, oh god,
1793
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:27.319
it's broken or did I still want to tell?
1794
01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:29.199
I was like, what happened to myself? To this guy
1795
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:31.119
there now? And he was like, he just walked away
1796
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.079
from me. He came back with a bloke a few
1797
01:16:33.159 --> 01:16:35.880
hours later and he said, see this guy, he's my
1798
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:38.800
best buddy, right and awful I know, right, and he
1799
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:41.640
was like, yeah, he goes. I came to Mandra and
1800
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:43.800
he said, I moved up. He said, I moved into
1801
01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:45.720
Mandra and he said I didn't know that many people.
1802
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.199
He says, and because of you, and he said, make
1803
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:50.159
a friend. We met each other and he said, no,
1804
01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:52.319
we're friends from only four or five years now. He said.
1805
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.720
We go fishing together every Sunday. We were bored with
1806
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.880
Tinny and I was a class all week long. People
1807
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:03.079
were coming in give me chocolates, box liqued biscuits, flowers.
1808
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:05.760
The one moment said I came up from Denmark. She said,
1809
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:07.920
I've been coming to Mandra shopping, start of getting my milk,
1810
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:11.239
geting my groceries. For years, I didn't know anyone in Mandra.
1811
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:11.720
She said.
1812
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:13.800
Last time my friends they were down south, my sister
1813
01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:15.880
would meet him up and she goes, I met my
1814
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:18.399
best friend because of you, she says. And I joined
1815
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:21.640
a group of women that we all play cards together
1816
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:24.000
on the weekend. I made all week people.
1817
01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:24.199
Are coming up.
1818
01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:26.079
So then I was doing national the show on part
1819
01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:28.479
and I was explained to people and I said, some
1820
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:30.720
of you go for a drink, say hello to the
1821
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:32.520
person that you saw at the show, and you can
1822
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:35.000
say Jesus, remember that story he was talking about. And
1823
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:36.359
then I go and then I just finished up and
1824
01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:36.920
goes guice.
1825
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:39.319
After this, I'm going to put a big show on
1826
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:41.800
and ask their teater and you're all welcome to Seoan.
1827
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:43.279
I'm going to try and do a new hour show
1828
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.079
and we're all came along, and the whole crowd was like,
1829
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:48.439
going is the show? Because then I could see like
1830
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.880
and for me, then that's my whole style changing. And
1831
01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:53.439
didn't I didn't want to get into like a kind
1832
01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:56.239
of a kind of Jesus here. Yeah, I was actually saying.
1833
01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:58.439
I was actually thinking to today, maybe the comedy is
1834
01:17:58.520 --> 01:17:59.479
just a doorway I.
1835
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:02.880
Mean one of the Yeah, you'd be the coolest priest
1836
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:05.159
there is, right because like that's how I mean, there
1837
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:07.359
are all those Catholic tricks that they pulled. That's getting
1838
01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:09.640
you an hour. That's an hour a Catholic thing. And
1839
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:11.560
they're like, you're looking forward to the PCEP with you
1840
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:13.239
because you can funny like look you mate the eye
1841
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:16.520
they get, you know, and community, you know, you go
1842
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:19.840
to churches, I think because and also like I basically
1843
01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:22.000
went just I could play chasy afterwards. You know, mom
1844
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:23.359
and dad have a cup of tea with someone and
1845
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:25.239
I'm all, the kids get to play chasy for like
1846
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:27.960
half an hour. And but how many times did those
1847
01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:30.439
parents go, hey, look, suddy night, what are you doing?
1848
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:31.800
You want to come back to our place? You know,
1849
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:33.399
as the kids can watch a movie with a lot
1850
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:36.359
of pizza. You know, we made our best friends doing that,
1851
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:38.920
you know, and I see the benefit of it. I
1852
01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:41.520
don't want to really listen to Bible stories to do it.
1853
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:43.359
But that was a small price to pay to have
1854
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:45.960
a whole shitload of friends. You know. Yeah, I kind
1855
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:47.560
of get it. That was a big thing.
1856
01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:50.279
It's a big I like a lot of the parent
1857
01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:52.399
but It's not just a lot of good stories there.
1858
01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:54.399
You can learn stuff from it, but.
1859
01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:57.159
I think a particularly pertinent one for us. Right, I've
1860
01:18:57.159 --> 01:18:59.680
got a theory about Noah's ark. Yeah, this is why.
1861
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:01.239
One of the things I love about you is I
1862
01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:03.319
think we've got the same sort of outlook on this all. Right,
1863
01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:06.199
So Noah's ark, you know the story, What about if
1864
01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:08.720
that was just a way to communicate this thing that
1865
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:12.279
we're doing here where Like he had an idea, right,
1866
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:14.159
So back in the day, they didn't know about brains,
1867
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:16.680
right then, no ideas could just pop into your brain
1868
01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:19.640
based on experiences and shit. So he thought God gave
1869
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:22.319
you an idea, right, he said, God fucking told me
1870
01:19:22.439 --> 01:19:24.600
to make an arc. Noah committed to it. Everyone told
1871
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:26.359
he was an idiot. Everyone in the village laughed at
1872
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:27.760
his ass. But He's like, no, no, no, I want
1873
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:29.640
to do this one thing, and he did it. Turns
1874
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:32.479
out that thing was important at some point in time,
1875
01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:34.920
and he'd committed to it, and all of a sudden,
1876
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:36.800
everyone gets washed away and Noah's the guy and his
1877
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.119
animals and his friends. You know, it was an impossible task,
1878
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.439
but he committed to it, saw it through, and it
1879
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:45.239
suddenly became important. And so that's kind of like a
1880
01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:48.560
way that these Bible people who wrote it whatever communicating.
1881
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:50.560
If you have an idea, fucking stick with it. If
1882
01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:52.600
people laugh at you and throw rock, tell you an idiot,
1883
01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:56.479
fucking keep going because maybe, just maybe that idea is
1884
01:19:56.920 --> 01:19:59.680
fucking important at some point. Even if it's not, you've
1885
01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:02.199
learned from the process. You know, this guy could just
1886
01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:05.079
become like nas arcs salesman or something like that and
1887
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:07.840
start selling arcs. But like, you know, either way, so
1888
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:10.399
I think about that story way more than I should.
1889
01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:14.079
People tell me this is a bad idea, laughing, you're
1890
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:15.920
wasting your time. You should just get a job with
1891
01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:20.119
one word like dentist or something that people understand, and
1892
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:22.520
you know, money, get a house and that's it. But nah,
1893
01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:24.640
fuck it building an ARC here. You know, I've got
1894
01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:26.600
shit to do, and it's slow going and it's a
1895
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:29.399
lot of experiment. It's an unusual path. But you've got
1896
01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:31.880
to enjoy the process, and you know, it's one day
1897
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:34.680
it might just be awesome thinking about it, as well
1898
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:38.279
as like, not even that one day it might be awesome,
1899
01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:42.079
it's awesome right now because if you enjoy the process, right,
1900
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:44.479
because that sounds like a bit of a ciche knowing
1901
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:47.439
on the journey and yeah, but it's true. It's true,
1902
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:50.800
so true because if like, if you set goals and
1903
01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:53.560
you fall short of those goals, you're going to get depression.
1904
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:55.199
Like we made a lot of comedians and I think,
1905
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:57.119
you know, they're a bit sad and depressed and they
1906
01:20:57.159 --> 01:20:59.399
really thought they were going to hit it something like that.
1907
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:02.039
But if you restructure that and just go this is
1908
01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:04.800
a learning journey and the process is the bit you enjoy,
1909
01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:07.199
I think you become a bit like you know, you
1910
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:10.199
guys like Kirbe Bryant, I enjoyed the process. When you
1911
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:12.159
won the championship, it was like just sad it was out.
1912
01:21:12.199 --> 01:21:14.880
But he couldn't play basketball anymore. You know, yeah, give
1913
01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:16.439
a fuck about winning the champions But I think he
1914
01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:18.399
was afraid. He was glad he didn't lose, but he
1915
01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:20.279
just was like fuck it. You know. I saw my
1916
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:22.359
mindset change a few years ago, Like when I was
1917
01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:24.560
on about money and savings and stuff like that, I know,
1918
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:26.840
I'm just thinking money is just a bit of fuel
1919
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:29.880
for me to have a bit of an adventure. Years ago,
1920
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:31.800
I was thinking, no, I need X amount for this
1921
01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:33.760
to be free blah blah. And then I was like
1922
01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:36.560
watching that trap and I could see other people that
1923
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:40.079
fell into that, and I was like going, no, no, no, no, no,
1924
01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:43.680
this is very exciting, and I just keep doing what
1925
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:45.880
you're doing. See where you end up, because.
1926
01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:48.399
You do need fuel, adding a lot of our artistic
1927
01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:51.600
people like and there's something you want to do creative
1928
01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:54.319
waye you do realize a little bit of fuel is
1929
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:56.800
important just to keep your head above the water. You know,
1930
01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:00.840
have you ever hit rock bottom? Close there? Yeah, very close? Yeah,
1931
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:03.000
a few times. I probably have this problem. Someone said
1932
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.960
to me years ago sand castle syndrome, which is like
1933
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:08.880
making a castle and shifting sense and then just kind
1934
01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:12.840
of doing it on purpose and kicking it out, kicking
1935
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:14.600
it over, so I have to do it again. But
1936
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:16.239
the buzz are doing it. It's probably some sort of
1937
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:18.479
a gambling thing. Well I'm not a gambler. I know,
1938
01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:21.079
probably will't, just to see if he can. I've met
1939
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:23.159
fellas over the years. I met one guy years ago
1940
01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:25.680
and he was like a millionaire five times over, and
1941
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:27.960
he didn't realize he was doing it, but I could
1942
01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:29.760
see I didn't know years ago that's what he was,
1943
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:31.640
but it's almost like a kind of a gambling with
1944
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.159
the comedy sometimes and even when I got into the comedy,
1945
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:37.119
and the sales or anything I've ever done is a
1946
01:22:37.239 --> 01:22:41.279
little bit of risk. I need some sort of a risk, yeah,
1947
01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:45.279
entertaining to make it to go, you know, I like
1948
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:46.199
a little deadline.
1949
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:47.920
Can I do ten grand? There?
1950
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:51.039
With this brand new idea of a product? And to
1951
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:54.680
now remember years ago, three years ago, I didn't do
1952
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:57.399
the Royal Show for years, and I was like, I
1953
01:22:57.439 --> 01:22:59.760
wonder're going to make a product to make me ten
1954
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.279
great and just ten grand out of the blue, just
1955
01:23:02.319 --> 01:23:05.479
one product. And I had an idea. It was the
1956
01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:09.800
clothes hanger for holding clothes hangers. And I was named Columbia.
1957
01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:13.319
And I saw a woman selling something similar, but she
1958
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:15.560
made it out of plastic. So I went off and
1959
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.359
found a supplier and port of iron bar, small little
1960
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:22.119
five melt ten milt iron bar, and I made a
1961
01:23:22.199 --> 01:23:25.199
jig in the backyard where I was renting. With these
1962
01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:28.239
big bolts. I made my own jink for turning around
1963
01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:30.640
and making kind of a spring and then i'd straight
1964
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:32.960
in the spring and whack it with a hammer. And
1965
01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.600
I was trying to do it under two minutes, So
1966
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:38.079
then my arms were getting the massive mett. It was
1967
01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:41.359
like a blacksmith. And I made all these rings for
1968
01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:45.399
hanging clothes to make your clothes more room. You just
1969
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:48.960
drop it down and you fit more clothes. But anyway,
1970
01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:51.239
I started making, then I spray painted them. Then I
1971
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:53.800
went off on that signage made and I got into
1972
01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:56.159
the Perk Royal Show and I used to do years
1973
01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:57.920
ago with different products, you know, but this was just
1974
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.479
the kind of like, can I do this one week?
1975
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:03.000
Got all the bears, built everything in one week, gone
1976
01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:05.359
into the Pork Show and I made about twelve grand.
1977
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:09.600
Yeah, from just an idea job. That's the satisfaction. And
1978
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:12.159
then someone said, oh but can you can you turn
1979
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:13.039
it into a product? Now?
1980
01:24:13.119 --> 01:24:15.159
Can you sell it online with a video? But I
1981
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:17.159
lost interest. I was just like I just want to
1982
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:19.399
see if I could do it. And then the minute
1983
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:21.680
I did it, I was like, oh, that's done. But
1984
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:23.880
if I come to you, I could have done them
1985
01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:26.600
all and stuff, but like, what's next? And then the
1986
01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:29.960
comedy popped up with the Perk Fringe with the COVID
1987
01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:33.039
people international acts, and I was like, oh, they're looking
1988
01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:35.079
for acts because I was driving up to the city
1989
01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:37.159
doing this gong show for three minutes.
1990
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:39.399
Oh yeah, I remember that. Is that was Jimmy? Was
1991
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:40.199
that Jimmy doing that?
1992
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:43.760
No, I don't know. Did the main Jimmy Krat No,
1993
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.439
I don't I don't know. I don't know, but the
1994
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:47.840
main guy was doing it. But I didn't like it
1995
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:49.119
because you go all the way to the sea do
1996
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:51.520
three minutes, and it's almost like they're making fun of
1997
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:54.079
these open micers. Yeah, it was a bit nasty, but
1998
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:55.800
me and the guy that was running.
1999
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:57.399
Yeah, there's a bit of a fame of that. Yeah,
2000
01:24:57.399 --> 01:24:59.880
Canadians imperfectly. Yeah, it was. It was a bit nasty.
2001
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:01.680
The last time I did it, I was on stage
2002
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:03.279
and that's the last time I did that club. Actually,
2003
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:04.720
I just walked down and I was like, going.
2004
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:06.520
Do you know what, because I could see all nervous
2005
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:08.319
dater guys in the back of room are and all
2006
01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:11.000
these new fellas they are taking all week, all month,
2007
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:13.600
like all these aspirations, and this guy doing on stage
2008
01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:15.800
is just mocking them for the entertainment of the club,
2009
01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:18.479
and the man is charging forty bucks for people coming up.
2010
01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:20.439
So then I turned around on stage, I walked down
2011
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:21.159
and goes, do.
2012
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:24.399
You know what, guys, I tell you what. It takes
2013
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:26.720
balls to come up here and have a go off
2014
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:29.680
this because comedians at the back of the room they're nervous.
2015
01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:32.800
I'm practicing their stuff all week and I'm coming up
2016
01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:36.079
here being mocked. You know, I said, would you have
2017
01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:38.039
the balls to give those people at the back of
2018
01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:40.560
the room. They're a round of applause, they are clapping,
2019
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:42.800
And then I just did myself and I was like,
2020
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:45.000
looking at your man washing the gown. Yeah, yeah, he'd
2021
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:46.880
set them up. The thing about it is, mate, it's like,
2022
01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:49.399
look what I'm doing now. The perk fringe air that
2023
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:53.119
comedy club and sold out every show. The biggest ticket
2024
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:55.960
sellers at this say, because you do your own thing,
2025
01:25:56.199 --> 01:25:59.000
lean into your own thing and don't Yeah, I don't
2026
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:01.920
knock someone's confidence. I don't. I don't like it. You know,
2027
01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:03.800
you never know, like what house the car is that
2028
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:05.840
dude's built. You know, he could be this could be
2029
01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:08.279
his last thing he's ever gonna try. He's like, yeah it.
2030
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:10.439
And then the guy you gotta encourage, and then the
2031
01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:12.880
guy that knocks them and hits the gun. One night
2032
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:15.960
he jumped up and he jumped up and they had
2033
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:20.960
to do all five minutes each and he bombed so hard. Yeah,
2034
01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:23.640
And I was like, I'm not happy sometimes like watching
2035
01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:26.800
someone fail. But I was just like that feeling.
2036
01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:28.760
And then outside he was outside, he was doing circus
2037
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:31.720
outside smoking a cigarette and I walked up and I goes, no,
2038
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.600
you did good, you did good. Hey, you killed the way.
2039
01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:38.760
I was just like, mate, you know, he sabotaged himself
2040
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:41.479
because he kept knocking. If you don't like him, Holy
2041
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:42.439
yellow player in the air.
2042
01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:46.840
But like, that's that's bullying. It's like on stage bullying.
2043
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:49.039
It is, so he gets a bit of a boss offer.
2044
01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:50.840
But the thing about it is is if that's the
2045
01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:52.600
club and that's meant to be on the main clubs,
2046
01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:55.760
in part, they should be encouraging young fellus to come
2047
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:57.640
in there and have to go. Some of these guys
2048
01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:00.520
are so nervous and their confidence is being built up
2049
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:02.119
better family to go and have a bit of a
2050
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:05.000
goal and the rationing or stuff and get the three minutes.
2051
01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:06.880
And some of them are coming from mandra are coming
2052
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:09.159
down from Jundalab and then they go on and they
2053
01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:11.399
get knocked off stage in the men because this guy's.
2054
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:14.079
He's like oh give it up, you're not good. Yeah.
2055
01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:16.319
Maybe he's watching that Tawny Hinchcliff or something.
2056
01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:19.479
Yeah, and they just I don't they get Hey, I
2057
01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:22.800
think the encouragement is the best encouragement will make. Yeah,
2058
01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:26.520
it's very short sighted because they're discouraging other comedians from
2059
01:27:27.159 --> 01:27:30.920
doing comedy when really a rising tide would lift all ships.
2060
01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:33.840
You know, if there was more comedians putting on quality shows,
2061
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:37.119
working together, more people can go out and start to
2062
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:41.039
enjoy comedy, there'd be a biggest scene and everyone's doing better. Yeah, exactly.
2063
01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:43.239
But by discouraging them in same in the film industry,
2064
01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:45.960
and probably a feeder in the music industry. I say
2065
01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.920
as well, Like by discouraging and talking down and talking
2066
01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:52.359
shit about people, it's not helping. Like, bring them into
2067
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:54.239
your band, give them a go. If they're ship, I
2068
01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:57.119
can teach them and I'll get better and you'll go better.
2069
01:27:57.720 --> 01:27:59.640
And it just needs to be you know, there was
2070
01:27:59.640 --> 01:28:02.239
a period with Perth, especially especially where we're sitting right now,
2071
01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:05.439
Freeman was like hallowed ground for live music. Yeah, there's
2072
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:07.640
so many fucking bands came out of here, and one
2073
01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:11.640
like Triple J. You know, battle the band competitions and
2074
01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:14.760
and a CDC you know, things like that, and this
2075
01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:17.000
has a reputation between a rockdown and now where's the
2076
01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:19.960
fucking music? You know, what is going on with Why
2077
01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:22.920
are people trying it? Why are people rallying together to
2078
01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:24.600
create this thing? Yeah? That's that.
2079
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:27.439
That's that's center. Like a wolf there Andrew Wolf like,
2080
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:29.119
you know, just like I see a few blocks that
2081
01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:31.000
I like that. I would say, I have a good
2082
01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:33.359
attitude and they see the big picture of things and
2083
01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:36.239
out with them. Yeah, I just got man, just do
2084
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:38.640
my shows. You're doing two three shows a day. I
2085
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:40.640
was like, I do my show and I just leave.
2086
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:43.159
Yeah, because I just like the energy sometimes, you know,
2087
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:45.399
And I'll have a good chat with him because he's
2088
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:47.520
he's he's loose, like you know, you're gonna have a
2089
01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:49.399
good crack with him. It was a good few blocks
2090
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:51.399
that are really Yeah, that's what you need. Then you
2091
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:53.399
can just roll and pull a show like Jimmy and
2092
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:56.239
he had. I got a couple of mates and then
2093
01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:59.399
they started doing this like country Bogan pub thing. It's
2094
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.399
a good blake. It's American's American. Yeah, and he puts
2095
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:05.920
on his sort of eye. I don't know, he's been
2096
01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:07.880
back and forth. But he just you know, he found
2097
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:10.479
two mates that he liked and then they just put
2098
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:12.880
together a show and they started rolling around country pubs
2099
01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:14.920
and that that's the recipe. That's great because you know,
2100
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:18.600
guys like Kevin Bloody Wilson and Rodney Rude killing in
2101
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:21.520
those pubs out there, and they just bring happiness to
2102
01:29:21.560 --> 01:29:23.600
a country town the people that are working their asses
2103
01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:25.920
off on the farms and stuff. So they hit them
2104
01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:27.680
with a certain sort of human that they like and
2105
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:29.039
a bit of he keeps them a bit of the
2106
01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:33.680
American redneck stuff that sort of relates to country w A. Yeah,
2107
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:35.359
it's good. It was self sustaining. You know, they earn
2108
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:36.680
money from it and they can do it for a
2109
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:38.920
job and do it often. So that's the that's the secret.
2110
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:41.039
Get a few people, go further with people, I think.
2111
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.079
I think. So, yeah, that's that's a good movie. Yeah,
2112
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:47.279
it's if you'd take through me. I've got another story
2113
01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:49.079
for you. So when I was asking about rock Bottom,
2114
01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:52.159
I hit. I remember when I hit rock Bottom was
2115
01:29:52.199 --> 01:29:56.239
in Dublin, really yeah, And that was like fucking crazy
2116
01:29:56.279 --> 01:29:59.600
because so I was teaching him. I'm just graduating and
2117
01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:02.199
I was teaching in London and there was like three
2118
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:05.199
months where there was no work, and so I signed
2119
01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:07.880
up to this thing to teach to go to Ireland
2120
01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:10.840
to teach Italian kids English. Right, they go for the
2121
01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:14.199
summer and they went to the Ucity and Dublin and
2122
01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:16.319
I fucking loved it. Man, it was the coolest thing.
2123
01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:18.479
I just teaching. These kids were basically the same age
2124
01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:20.760
as me, because they go to school like eighteen nineteen
2125
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:22.840
or something, and I was like, only just cover like
2126
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:25.600
twenty something. Anyway, So and they'd all go drinking at
2127
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:27.479
the pub afterwards, I'd teach them how to speak English
2128
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and then we go to the problem. They'd be trying
2129
01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:31.479
it out, drinking guinness. It was awesome. And anyway, they
2130
01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:33.600
all fucked off because like they you know, their corks
2131
01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:34.960
had wrapped up. And I had a few more days
2132
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:37.000
because I wanted to go see a thing. But the
2133
01:30:37.479 --> 01:30:39.960
company that I was there with scammed us because they
2134
01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.439
were like, you're getting paid this much and you get
2135
01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:44.239
over there, They're like, oh no, we don't. You got
2136
01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:46.079
to go back to London. And so like I'd run
2137
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:48.720
out of money, like I had fuck all money, right,
2138
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:51.159
and that's just expensive, and I was living off like
2139
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:54.159
food coupons from the U City Summer College and then
2140
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.239
they give you this certain amount of coupons you and
2141
01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:58.520
so I just was gathering up other people's coupons and
2142
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:00.000
I was living off them for the next few days,
2143
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:02.680
and then they ran out. And anyway, we went to
2144
01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:05.880
the airport, and you know Doublin Airport, there's like kind
2145
01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:08.600
of two ends to it. And my thing said Dublin
2146
01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:11.279
to Stanstead, and I was hanging out with this Italian dude.
2147
01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:12.800
They're one of the teachers that I was made with.
2148
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.279
And I'm waiting for two hours and get in. It
2149
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:17.239
was all a mess. I go to the door, I
2150
01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:19.479
go to the gate and he gets on and then
2151
01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:21.199
I show the things. She's like, oh, no, this is
2152
01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:22.640
the wrong gate. You want to go down to the
2153
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:26.479
other end of the Doublin airport, but it's lunch in London. Stinted.
2154
01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:28.239
She's like, yeah, I know, but it's like a different gate.
2155
01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:30.159
I get there and the plane and gone, and they're like,
2156
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:33.760
no refunds, and I'm like, I literally have no money,
2157
01:31:33.800 --> 01:31:36.000
like I spent my last like two pounds to get here.
2158
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:38.600
But I had a phone and I was like I
2159
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:40.520
had about ten phone calls left something, you know, it
2160
01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:43.439
was like prepaid, and I couldn't get hold of Dad.
2161
01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:46.199
And a lady had missed the same thing had happened
2162
01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:48.199
to her, and she's like, I'll give you two pounds
2163
01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:50.239
for a phone call. I was like, done deal. So
2164
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:52.319
I get that two pounds and I catch the bus
2165
01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:54.880
back to UCD and all the kids had left, but
2166
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:56.760
the caretaker hadn't. Like I had to drop the key
2167
01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:57.840
in when I was on my way out, So I
2168
01:31:57.960 --> 01:32:00.439
fished the key out of the letter box. The doors
2169
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:02.880
gather all their leftover food, little cheeses from Italy and
2170
01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:05.880
fucking bits and pieces, halfaball of vodka and an old guitar,
2171
01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:08.479
and I'm meeting this and I'm like, how the fuck
2172
01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:09.680
am I gonna get allay out of it? How I'm
2173
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:12.119
gonna get money? Like I got nothing. So I got
2174
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:14.680
this guitar and I went into Dublin right where that
2175
01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:18.039
Temple bar is, that red, big famous bar, and all
2176
01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:20.159
I could play was like Master of Puppets, like bit
2177
01:32:20.199 --> 01:32:22.880
of Metallica and some Offspring and so just old night
2178
01:32:22.960 --> 01:32:25.760
between Offspring and Metallica, just like playing covers, and eventually
2179
01:32:25.880 --> 01:32:28.640
like saved up enough money that I got that fairy,
2180
01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:31.520
Like forty pounds got me the fairy back to London. Wow.
2181
01:32:31.640 --> 01:32:33.560
And I had to just like fucking struggle. But it
2182
01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:36.720
was like so having like it was the only the
2183
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:39.920
first time that I had ever had bounced like zero anything.
2184
01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:42.840
And I was like, fuck me, Like yeah.
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01:32:42.680 --> 01:32:43.039
Good one.
2186
01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:46.319
But door stories are the best stories after you survive
2187
01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:48.600
that you go. I was in a fucking foreign country
2188
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:51.399
and I had to get back like anything, just a
2189
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:53.560
fringe payment that I was wishing for it. I just
2190
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:55.720
paid me today. Actually, it was funny, they just paid
2191
01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:59.359
me today and I'm like, fucking I was doing a
2192
01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:01.399
marinip up for They took a bit of time. It
2193
01:33:01.479 --> 01:33:03.399
took two weeks to do it, but I had to
2194
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:05.479
do a few markets in between. So I was doing
2195
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:08.560
like tree shows on a Saturday, and the lads were like, oh,
2196
01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:10.479
you're an animal tree shows on a Saturday, and the
2197
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:13.039
wolf firstually was going, mate, I'm up at four am
2198
01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:15.039
in the morning. So I was getting at four am
2199
01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:19.000
and doing a market in pert sending these little kitchen gadgets.
2200
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:21.479
Yeah, just to get by and for the whole month.
2201
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:23.000
For the whole month I was here.
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01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:25.720
I've been staying, you know, the troops. So there was
2203
01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:28.560
like two weeks of a heat wave I just landed in.
2204
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:30.880
But now I'm back on top with this. So what
2205
01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:34.119
I'll do is because you get the big lump sum, yeah,
2206
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.159
I get the lump sum now. But yeah, the amount
2207
01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:38.119
of times over the years where I've just made a
2208
01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:39.840
small fortune and then just kept going.
2209
01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:42.159
So what's the thought when you're lying in that trip
2210
01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:44.880
carrier waiting for that pack Because when for love, when
2211
01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:47.680
it's faced off famine, tappy industry, that's it's tough, man.
2212
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:49.920
What do you think Do you look at the roof
2213
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:53.279
of that trip and you're like fuck this or okay,
2214
01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:56.199
this is the adventure. No, this is the adventure. Yeah,
2215
01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:58.920
this is this is great. This would break a lot
2216
01:33:58.960 --> 01:33:59.239
of people.
2217
01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:01.199
I would say, yeah exactly, yeah, I know, like I
2218
01:34:01.239 --> 01:34:03.279
would say to myself, this type of being this close
2219
01:34:03.319 --> 01:34:03.760
to the bone.
2220
01:34:04.039 --> 01:34:05.600
Yeah. But there's a bit of a buzz off it.
2221
01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:07.840
There's a bit of a kind of like bang yeah,
2222
01:34:08.159 --> 01:34:12.399
flying down to Adelaide tomorrow to help these guys run
2223
01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:14.840
this new comedy club. Yeah, and they just want me
2224
01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:16.640
to get people in for two hours at night time.
2225
01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:18.319
And then there's a guy there every night that I
2226
01:34:18.439 --> 01:34:19.920
just want to go down and watch. I want to
2227
01:34:19.960 --> 01:34:23.800
watch him every night. He's called Steve Hughes. He's a
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01:34:23.800 --> 01:34:26.039
meadow guy, meadowhead. Yeah, he's there.
2229
01:34:26.119 --> 01:34:28.319
I think he's one of the like when I watch
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01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:29.399
people on stage live.
2231
01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:30.479
He took me.
2232
01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:34.520
Like when I watched him in the Comics Lounge in
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01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:36.600
Melbourne last year. He got on stage and it was
2234
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:39.640
all these like really good comedians. They were all practicing
2235
01:34:39.720 --> 01:34:44.159
for some Channel seven or Channel nine, Jim Jeffrey and Friends.
2236
01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:47.119
They were all flying in and Jim Jeffrey and Friends.
2237
01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:50.680
But this guy got on stage, Steve Hughes, and he
2238
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:52.920
used to live with Jim Jeffries, and I think both
2239
01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:55.199
of their styles are kind of like probably melted a
2240
01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:56.960
bit because they live together in Manchester.
2241
01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:00.359
Watching him on stage, mate, it was just like quality.
2242
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:04.800
He was brilliant. He's pausing, he's he's pulling you in
2243
01:35:05.479 --> 01:35:10.720
his cadence, his toneality and then like he's so he'd
2244
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:12.319
be on every night in that club. I'm going to
2245
01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:14.159
have you met him. I met him.
2246
01:35:14.159 --> 01:35:15.960
I met him in the Melbourne yeah before just briefly.
2247
01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:17.800
He was just going off and telling me from Perth
2248
01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:19.640
here was sucking all over it because he's there's a
2249
01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:21.840
pretty good metal saying here, heavy metal saying is So
2250
01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:26.119
he's just like any times over I love him. Yeah,
2251
01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:28.479
we love him and he loves That's I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
2252
01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:32.399
he's telling you from Perth and get him the mental yeah,
2253
01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:34.119
and just be like, you know, come on, help me out.
2254
01:35:34.399 --> 01:35:36.920
But that's what I've been around fellas as well, at
2255
01:35:36.960 --> 01:35:38.800
the next level of that class. That's when the good
2256
01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:42.239
thing about going to Edinburgh and the Galway Comedy Festival
2257
01:35:42.840 --> 01:35:46.600
last year in Ireland, So you know, Tommy Tierning and
2258
01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:50.960
these fellows like Dylan Moran, these guys like just right
2259
01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:53.199
in front of you in the small room. Yeah, like
2260
01:35:53.279 --> 01:35:55.279
watching everything they're doing is great because they've all got
2261
01:35:55.319 --> 01:35:58.159
like it was thirty years, thirty five, forty years under
2262
01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:01.920
the belt. Yeah, you can just see. But it's so
2263
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:04.199
much it's exciting, isn't it huge?
2264
01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:06.159
Well, hey, listen, where can people get hold of you
2265
01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:11.680
if they want to follow along? Ronnie Neville Irish. Ronnie
2266
01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:14.119
Neville Irish is the Instagram. Instagram.
2267
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:17.319
Yeah, I say Instagram the best day. Yeah cool, I
2268
01:36:17.399 --> 01:36:20.159
need to up some more videos, but yeah, this has
2269
01:36:20.199 --> 01:36:21.399
been great, buddy, Thank.
2270
01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:24.079
You very much. Thanks having It's been a long time
2271
01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:26.039
coming in. You're one of my favorite human beings, so
2272
01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:28.199
thank you so much for coming in my great energy
2273
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:30.840
every time I meet you. Actually, i'm delighted today, Rosy.
2274
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:34.319
It was going. It's great. It's good looking in a mirror.
2275
01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:44.279
Take care. Cheers, buddy. Thank you for listening to the
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01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:47.760
Stories within Stories podcast. We hope you've enjoyed this show.
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For more stories like this, Hit to Bear for media
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Documentaries are about the people that you meet and the
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stories you can tell. Stories of tragedy, laughter, hope, and
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desperation across far away lands or right here in your
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own backyard. This podcast brings these stories to you, the listener,
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so that you can experience the adventures of documentary, filmmaking
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and audio form while embarking on daily adventures of your own.
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Welcome to Barefoot Media Stories within Stories podcast with your
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host Sana Holand. Ronnie Neville is an Irish comedian and storyteller.
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He has honed his craft in Fremantle, Western Australia for
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taking a show global and recently has returned to become
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one of Fringe Festival's best selling acts. Ronnie style is
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reminiscent of the street sellers of Bold as he developed
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his cheeky persona selling potato pillars on American television and
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in personal locations all around the world. We welcomed very
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funny and very talented Ronnie Neville to the show. Welcome
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to the show, Ronnie Neville. Hello, this is the first
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time hearing your own voice back. Yeah, it's brilliant. I
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love that intro. Deep how's it going? Made yourself? Yeah? Well,
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We've been friends a long time. We've been trying to
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do this a long time. We've managed to find what
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our window when we should probably be sleeping to get
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this before you fly off to Adelaide to get this stuff.
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Definitely mate.
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Or did we meet We meant in the gym or
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was the sauna?
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In the sauna?
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Someone introduced us?
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Was it? Yeah? Some said this guy is into film
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and was it on the streets to free or something?
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Or did I know I ran into you a second
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because we lost touch for a little bit, and then yeah,
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it was averred the years, eh kept catching up. I
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was a sauna, Jack Covid Almost it was, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah,
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that was great, he say. You've been since we've met,
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You've been exploding onto the scene, I'd say, and gallivanting
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all around the world, doing comedy festivals and just really
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giving you a crack. Yeah. Well, when we chatted initially
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it was something you were kind of not sure of,
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just kind of giving it a go, see how it goes. Yeah.
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I think when I met you, actually, I think it
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was just like my fifth gig or something. Yeah, and
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you were telling me different places I can go on,
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and then I did fifteen gigs and then with the
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fringing part COVID they couldn't get any big acts over.
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Yeah.
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So I just did a little bit of bluffing and
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said I've been a stand up comedy for about ten
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years in.
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Ireland and totally fictional. Yeah.
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And the guy said already, and I said, yeah, with
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all the West Cork circuit and you know.
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Just bluffing.
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We call that bullshitting in Australia. Yeah, bullshitting. And he
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said I have two rooms and I said yeah. He
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said I have a fifty seater or one hundred seater
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and I said, oh, how much are they needs to
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be charged? A dollar fifty per seat? The two bucks
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and I said, yeah, give me a hundred oh yeah, yeah,
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And then I just got straight stuck into today and
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then yeah, work at the markets over the years and
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doing all the carnival, doing all the stuff I did
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over the years, I found the old school marketing really
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worked well. So the first show I put on, I
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had a forty people show up and when I walked
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on stage, I turned around and I said, guys, look,
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I'm going to be honest with jelly.
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My cards on the table.
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This is the biggest crowd I've ever got in my life,
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probably the only crowd I've ever got as well. So
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he goes, look, I'm just going to tell you stories.
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I said, I'm going to tell you stories the same
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way I tell stories to my brothers and my buddy's
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in the pub in Ireland. And I said, if I
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can deliver it that way, I said, we're going to
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have a good night. And then they all just looked
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at each other night awkwardly looked at each other and
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then made I just went straight forward. And the first
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gig I did, the first show I did, I did
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an hour. I did an hour and twenty five minutes,
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and the guy was trying to flash me to get
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up stage because the crowd kept on saying one more
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story because I just gotten into it. But I felt
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like after forty minutes, I kind of woke up on
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stage and I'm like, whoa to really enjoyed this?
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And that was your first gig? That was my first gig,
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But that's highly unusual. Yeah, that the night.
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Before because like I'm a first that procrastinator, I just
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got a pen and paper out and I started writing
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down premises, loads of premises, you know, and I said, right,
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we'll try and write down about fifty premises. And then
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I went to the same day, I went to office
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works and I got a whiteboard and I wrote on
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the whiteboard some of the premises, and then I gave
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up on the premises, and I drew a stick man
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on the stage with like a microphone, you know, and
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then like a little stickman in the crowd sitting on
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the chairs. And then and then a stick man to
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the side of the stage with a narrow pointing to
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the mic and saying, have a go, get stuck and
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see what happens.
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You know. See, I had nothing, nothing.
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My paper that he that I got When I went
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in to the venue, and the light was in my
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eyes and I was like, how can we turn that light?
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Dunks?
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I'd like to be able to see the people's faces,
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you know, And I was trying to fix the light.
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it all written young and pencil, and I couldn't even
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read it on the stage with the light. So I
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ran out. There was seven and eleven across the road.
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There was a cardboard box outside, you know, and I
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ripped the end of it off and I got a marker,
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like a big black marker, and I wrote all the premises,
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so it actually looked like I did it on purpose,
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like a giant prop. So after a few stories, I
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was like, all right, guys, let's have a look at this.
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And I held it up.
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But I was holding up this thing that was like
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nearly half a meter and then and I was like,
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all right, so will we do the duck orgy story?
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Will we do none? And the crowd was just laughing,
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you know, in one stage, about four or five shows
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into when I dropped it the cardboard and I fell
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into the crowd and I was like, guys, I actually
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need that, and they were like, yeah.
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I guess that's the whole show. I know what I'm doing,
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you know.
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So I kind of leant into that a little bit
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four years ago now. And yeah, I sold out Edinburgh
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this year and sold out the Perk Fringe, and I
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think I was the biggest ticket seller this year at
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the Pork Fringe. Iry.
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I was sending a email to clarify it, but a
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lot of people said I did fifty six shows at
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the Fringe. Howing was the guy for four weeks and
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I handed out I think just under ten thousand flyers.
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That's what you're doing. You're like old school panned the
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pavement headed on flyers. The first year I did it
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as well. My numbers were really high.
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But what I did was someone told me there was
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a lot of Irish nurses here and Irish doctors.
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So I went out to Saint Jenna Good's.
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Yeah, I'm went out that hospital and I googled mapped
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the staff car park.
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So I had all these flyers and I just put
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on the windscreen and then had hundreds and hundreds of
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cars up and down and just the last ten cars.
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This security guy pulled off right and he's like, my
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may what are you doing? And I'm looking at him.
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I liked and I was like, I'm just putting it.
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He goes, man, you can't do that. You can't just
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come into that. I was like, oh, sorryment, and he goes,
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how many did you? How many did you do? And
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then he pulled one of him and he goes, who's
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it is it you? No, No, that's my brother and
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I have to go. He was like, man, get out
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of here.
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I just took it went for one ship and this
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guy's the plast at this place. No way did he take.
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Him down, like he was like oh yeah, yeah. It
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was amazing because like it definitely kicked in because all
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Irish nurses started coming in and then they talk like
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yeah yeah. Then I did a few shoppings in our
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car parks. I did the posters everywhere. I put a
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donkey on the poster, and I kind of stood behind
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the donkey. Not on purpose, actually I didn't think about that,
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but people were like, what the So the poster looked
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quite funny, But I actually wanted to picture of me
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next to a donkey by a stone wall, you know.
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I was like the Irish thing selling the Irish. But
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the person that made the post and I said, and
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I'm slightly standing behind the donkey, and the donkey's a
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big smile looking order one and looks like I'm riding
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the donkey, like oh, and I paid all the money
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up And I was like, ah, who cares now you
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didn't get a review or something.
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Yeah, yeah, so I put I put Yeah. I think
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a lot. I think a huge prout of that is
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just having a ride or die attitude. You just like
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fuck it, put in the work, put in the you know,
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have the idea, go after it. That's it. Just get
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stuck and have a go what what is that? Why
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do you have that? Jane? You know that like sort
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of the drive? Where does that come from?
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I don't know where it comes from because I'm the
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youngest of the seven, and maybe one of my brothers, Terry.
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Comes from. You're not getting any food at the dinner table,
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if you know, Yeah, that's it.
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When you're younger, sometimes I think you have to be
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the entertainer because you don't get a world and a
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big family, big Irish family. So I remember like putting
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my head underneath the kitchen table and popping up and
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I have their attention for like twenty seconds, you know,
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and you'll be trying to get their attention.
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So I didn't. That's how I fell into the markets
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and the pitching.
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But I remember there's a few stories when I was younger,
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and I don't know why I did it or who
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I was watching, but there was one, I think one
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of the earliest ones that I can remember. I think
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it was eight years of age, and we went to
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this big show like your Pert Royal Show here or
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the Sydney Royal show, and when you walk in, they
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were charging people five P for a program of what's
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on during the day. And then when we were seating
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in the bleachers where people were watching the show and
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the horse riding and stuff, I could see all the
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programs were just left there. I was walking underneath it,
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like when my family was on the top. I was
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walking underneath the playing around with some other kids, and
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I saw the booklets and I started collecting them. Then
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I went out through the fence and walked up beyond
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where the people sell them for fifty P up the driveway,
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up people parking their cars, and I just started going, guys,
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you pay fifty P down there. I'm signing them for
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twenty P if you want one, twenty P.
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Selling them like piles. I couldn't get them fast enough,
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and everybody was giving me twenty P.
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It's like there are fifty p down there, twenty p here,
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you know. And one of my uncles saw me and
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my aunt and they met my mom and dad and said.
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Did you send him out doing that outside? And they're
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like doing what a lot of my family were all
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watching me from a cafe just up the drive We're
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selling them for twenty p and they're like, we don't
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know where where he came to the kids fay in
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the red Yeah, memory, like so where did you get
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a pad on the back for that?
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from the laughing, like you know, laughing and made collecting
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the money as well. It was class I remember from
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the money and toolally can hiding the can for my
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brothers to take it. I spent all my money. But
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there was a few stories looked at.
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you get that hustle on because you're not getting money
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from anywhere else, like the main your main suptos have
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been coome as like the tooth Fairy, the tooth Fairy,
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and then since that, it's like what are you going
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to do? So any little sort of scheme or hustle
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when just getting losing everything, not losing everything, but I
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kind of spending all the savings and then getting a
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bit of a bouse, getting it again, finding a where
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to do it again and not working for someone.
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Yeah, but the next hussle here addicted to the hussle.
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I had this wicked hussle when I was a kid.
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Doctor Pepper came to Australia. They bought it over here
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and they did a promotion. It was like one in
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three bottles winds right free Doctor Pepper. So if you're
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like under the cap, it's a plastic cap. Under the
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cap looking at it says a free. I can't of
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what I said. You could go to the fridge and
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getnoma on. And so anyway, I was at my local
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delicatessen and I was looking at the guy loading it in.
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It's the same guy that I've been buying lollies off
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since I was like five years old. And I was
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watching him loading the box of Doctor Pepper's and I
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was twenty four three hours of eight and you just
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put it straight in as it came out of the box.
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I'm like, there must be a fucking pattern to that, right,
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And playing at the court at the school, he's the
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kids there, and so I just like roll in. I
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worked out that if it was eight rows of three
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and you're picking from the three, so pick the middle
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one that either winners or losers, right, And I picked
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the one next to it. That's got to be the
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other one, like the winner or loose. And then I
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just worked out of it. It was alternating, so I
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was like two then one, the two then one, so simple.
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So like we'd roll down at the courts with about
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ten doctor peppers so that for like two dollars supposed
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to three dollars or whatever it was, you know, half fry,
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so it just would have no little on it and
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guys would be like, yeah, mum down. So like all
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these older kids mand me here some money, just going
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this deli. Guys just like what's going on? Right? So
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I did that for ages, and then I got I
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had a habit of getting really cocky, like you know,
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like pride comes before a four, that's the saying. So
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I like I was like, holy shit, okay, So I
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turned brag to some bigger kids and I was like, yeah, man,
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I gage preductor, I say, you always come on stuck
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right the brag, And so like I went up there,
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I roll and in by the first one. This guy's
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like this fucking kid. And then so because you'd have
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to be like Schernobol, you just have to stay clear
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for a while and let it all simmer down until
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you rated it again. This day, I was like, I'm
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getting it. So I went in there and I did it,
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and I'll walk out, give the kid a free one,
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you know, take his lid, go get the next free one.
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Just kept them with that so I know this next
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time you load it in, he's like shuffling it all
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around and all that, trying to like bamboozles and stuff
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and screw up the thing. But the damage was done.
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I think I made one hundred bucks a new pair
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of sneakers, new basketball killer. But it comes from having
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nothing and being creative and I get something and said
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the boxes not I remember, like we used to what
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do you call it here when you just take a
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day off school and not tell anyone? Yeah, wagging, he said,
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going on a hop.
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Yeah, we just got to like a pool hall and
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then blame pool And then I saw it.
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It's a good wag sarking cigarettes. Yeah, that's what I think.
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This place was huge, and that they had machines. You know,
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they had all the old Street Fighter game compared the best.
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But if I saw a machine with an out of
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order sign, I take the out of order sign and
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just pop it behind the machine and walk up and go.
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Guys put ten bucks intos.
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Like that's the water. And I was like, well, it's
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not working. You took my money. You know, if they
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got up to the counter, will give you money. And
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then I'd watch every day alternating who would be behind
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the stats, and they would just taking out orders. I
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just suck it by this.
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I know you don't know where you get those ideas from,
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but it's just like yeah, and.
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Then did you ever get caught doing this game? No? No, no, really, hey,
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I remember member those machines that would push the twenty
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cent coins.
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Oh, yeah, you dropped them in and then they push.
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I still gets in the caps and banging caps with
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hammers and costing them with a like like a wire
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cutter and filing them.
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So I was getting fake coins dropping the men.
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Made that play like, and that was just my environment
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anywhere I see to make Then at the front of
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the little shops, the same poor shopkeeper, they had the
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bubble gum machines. You put in fifty cents or twenty
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cents thing and like a bounty, bub will come out. Yeah,
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And I figured out the roulette set at home. It
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was perfect scized to put in the quid so there's
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like this plastic little plastic playing chips from came out
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of something and there's about ten thousand. I'm just like
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eating bubble gum for the sous, just fishing out plastic chips.
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The happening in a straight jacket somewhere just so that shop.
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He's like, I've done.
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I remember, like you know, when you can't get away
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from Michion, kind of like you're like Jesus happened again,
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you know. I'm I was always going to working the
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streets and the flight pitching. I was working outside the
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main train station in Melbourne and a middte crate to
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get the crowd around. But I used to be that,
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But I'm I went to America and I went to
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California and my body picked me up. But he's announced
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his wife and they were driving me around and they
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brought me up to where all the stars are on
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the ground, Hollywood Will Hollywood Bull Yeah, And they were
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going in to be a part of an audience and
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they left me outside and they was like, all right,
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can you can you just go down to the shop
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and get some coins and watch the meter so we
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don't get a fine. And I said, yeah, no, worries,
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you know, And I said I had some dollars on me,
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you know, like the notes. So in the market they
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have the one dollar note. Yeah, And I walked into
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the shop and your man refused me, you know, to
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give me any quarters for the meter machine. So I
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walked across the road and I walked up to some
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guy and goes, oh, excuse me, sir. I said, I
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just need to get some quarters there for the meter
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like that, and gave him the dollar the dollar bill
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and he just grabbed quarters and just chucked him at
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me and goes, na, that's okay, you can give it,
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you know, the dollar bill.
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He didn't want it, Yes, all right, No, are you sure?
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And he was like yeah, And I was like brand
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he's walking down the street and I only needed the
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four quarter.
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But I was like, god, that's strange.
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So now I sort of walk up to people with
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the dollar and I said, you might guy us a
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new change for the meter, and I here's the dollar
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bill and I'm I'm giving it to him like I'm
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trying to push it on him, and they're like, no, no, man,
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here here mate. My buddy came back. After about three hours,
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I bags and bags of dollar coins. I kept walking
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around the block, just walk up the strangers and I
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was offeringdom and I don't even know if that's a hostel.
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They wouldn't take the money as the money was dirty
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or something. I don't want to touch it. I kept
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getting the quarters mate and I was telling my body
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and he was.
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Like Jesus, he said, he's in. How long you in America?
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I was. I was literally in the contract where two
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hours from lax to there's boulevards and I was just
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walking up and down. Would have done I don't know
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if anybody ever done that, but met I could have
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done it for a month. I remember my.
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Pants was falling down. I had so many, so many
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and I was literally in the contradict two hours.
401
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Yeah. Yeah, you just get you start it and you
402
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go all right, I'm all in on this because you're
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looking for stories, right, if you're gonna be on your deathbed,
404
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you want good stories. That's the point. Yeah, definitely stories,
405
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and that's that's what the comedy. I just that's a
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wild part of town, that Hollywood Boulevard, Sunset Strip, Like
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when you first go then you're looking around, it's just
408
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so how iconic it is you know, you've seen on
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so many movies and so many you know.
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You can see the people that just kind of felt
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wayside as well.
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There's a really in fact, if anyone's gone over, the
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only good coffee in America basically is on that street.
414
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It's down across the road from the viaproom called the Butcher,
415
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the Baker, and the cappuccino Maker. Yeah, it's the only
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way you can get in Australian flat wires from that point.
417
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And but you're sitting in there and there's like NFL quarterback,
418
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you know, you look around this who you just you know,
419
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caughting it off, and they'll be like I got action
420
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random like cousin or something and just random, and it's
421
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just like, fuck me. This is really the factory of celebrities.
422
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This place, like it is pretty cool. What was it
423
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like when you're over there, did you try and do
424
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any comedy or get to any store? It was I
425
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ended up on TV in the US don the TV
426
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commercials filipeters. So when I first potato, Yeah, the Great
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Potato filler available on YouTube. It's on YouTube, the Greatest
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Er saves Man YouTube. It's like eight million views. Some
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guy dedicated and now worked with it. But that was
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funny how that happened as well. But I just went
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to the States just because I wanted to see could
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I put myself on TV. I thought it might take
433
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a year or so, and I thought, I'll do the
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fairs and work my way up and find a product
435
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and learn about putting something on TV. And then I
436
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just thought, well, don't I just go and pitch people
437
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my idea and even if they screwed me over and
438
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I get no money, I get on the TV, you know.
439
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And might within a month. I just started pitching different people,
440
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like different angles, this will work on TV. And then
441
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within a month I was on TV selling the world's
442
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Greatest Irish vegetable Pila all over TV. And I remember
443
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actually we went to the Irish bar in Santa Monica,
444
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I forget the name of and I walked in there
445
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with that he's a good friend of mine now and
446
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he was the guy that kind of put the deal together.
447
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I was chashing to the bar man and he was
448
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an Irish guy. He was actually from Cork as well.
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He said what are you over there? And I goes, oh,
450
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I'm going to try. And this was like a month previous.
451
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I got I'm going to try and put myself on TV,
452
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and he was kind of giving me that look that
453
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condescending Oh yeah, I know the guy. Yeah, I've seen so.
454
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Many of these over the years that we showed up
455
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like this must have been a few months later then'
456
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like you know, we showed up and I was starting
457
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my whole idea of like, I'm going to put a
458
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vegetable peeter on the TV in the America's be quite
459
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funnyting an Irish guy. People will be memorable, they won't forget.
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It's not good for marketing. And he was just looking
461
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at me as like this guy's half mad. And a
462
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few just like three months later, not half My eagle
463
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is getting too big. She'd pop the balloon. So I
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didn't come out right.
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Why Yeah, we walked back into this Irish bar and
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that buddy that put the deal together and she was
467
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with me as well.
468
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We walked in in this bar. Man he almost jumped
469
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over the counter. He was like, we've seen you between
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the Lakers game.
471
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You're on. The Lakers came and TV commercials came up,
472
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and he was like, can you say hello to my
473
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friend she's sick in hospital. Mad, and I was looking
474
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at her like, look, look look at this. See. I
475
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think they're a lot. I think Irish must be a
476
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lot like Australians, where like if you're telling me, hey,
477
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brain scheme, they're gonna just look at you like you know,
478
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like I've always in a million ahead or something. Yeah,
479
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but when you make it, they're the first to go like, yeah,
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good on you, Oh what I know you're going to
481
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do it. Americans are the opposite. You tell them their
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right and they're like, yeah you do you good it
483
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for it woo and they're like you made and that's
484
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kind of cool. But yeah, if you tell them an
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Australian and Irishman and Englishman, this is what I'm going
486
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to do, that's the thing. You're fucking idiot. Oh mate,
487
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I have a great story. You're going to love this.
488
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I was in Shanghai and I was with my brother
489
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and we were visiting a factory and we were bringing
490
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in different products, and he was obsessed about a certain
491
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type of product, textile, and I was sick of he
492
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was my older brother. I was going to sick of
493
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following me around to these factories. I earned this hotel
494
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room in Shanghai, shared the room and we had an argument,
495
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like brotherly argument, and he.
496
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Said that he said, oh yeah, he was such a
497
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big idea. Goes, look this is bread and butter. We
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know what works, has been working for years. Just bring
499
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in more containers, blah blah. And I was like, no,
500
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I'm sick of this. I said, I'm not doing it anymore,
501
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you know. And he said, oh, what are you going
502
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to do? And he goes, I'll tell you what I'm
503
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going And he's in his underpants now right. He's kind
504
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of a heavy set, stocky guy.
505
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Right, he's in he's underpants, listening to me, drinking a
506
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:09.279
cup of tea now right, just looking at me, you know,
507
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leaning against the door with a bathrum. He goes, I'm
508
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going to get a vegetable peeler and I'm going to
509
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go to America and I'm going to call it the
510
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greatest Irish vegetable parade up here. I'm going to put
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it on TV in America. I'm gonna sell millions of them.
512
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I've never seen him laugh so much in my life,
513
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you know. He fell back into the shower door. He
514
00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:28.200
came out. The tea was fun. He fell onto the
515
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bed like a little polar bear over his legs in
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the air rolled. Anytime he look at me, he started laughing,
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you know, And I was like, I show you, I'll
518
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show you, and he just anytime you look at me.
519
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Even the next day, he just looked at me and
520
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started laughing.
521
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Right.
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And then that's us standing the videos and started as
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I knew you could do it.
524
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You're laughing at me for a month. But as though.
525
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It's that attitude of just kind of getting stuck in
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and having a go ye.
527
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And I don't really think about negative stuff. I don't
528
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think about the negative side onto. Yeah, I don't think
529
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about that.
530
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Well, you can't because it's paralysis if you do, because
531
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then you're trying to think of ways to beat the
532
00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:08.519
negative side of it and com about it, and then
533
00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.640
you're just analyzing your idea to death and you just
534
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:12.599
talk yourself out of it. We had a mate, one
535
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of my best mates, Sam. I love him like the
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way he works. He's very negative, but he's really good
537
00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:20.200
at waterproofing your idea. So i'd have the idea, i'd
538
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.440
run it by Sam. He'd be like that, no fucking work,
539
00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.119
because of this, this, this, this, this, and then I'd
540
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:26.960
have to solve all those things until I got to
541
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a point where Sam's like, yeah, maybe or whatever. He
542
00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:31.440
gives a ship, yeah, and then I know I got
543
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an idea that might be feasible. And you know, most
544
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:36.720
ideas probably are doomed to fail, but that is really
545
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helpful to have that. This motherfucker one of my best
546
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friends about twenty and eleven or twenty twelve, I remember
547
00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:45.960
because it was his term is his team is sending
548
00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:47.960
to your Spurs and now playing my team, the Heat,
549
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.640
And in the NBA Finals, he was coming around every day.
550
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We're watching him and stuff. He goes, oh, there's this
551
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thing's a coin, all right, and he's sort of telling
552
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me about it and whatever. And it was because he's
553
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kind of like, you know, internet dwelling kind of I
554
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So I was like, oh, yeah, all right, cal let's
555
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do it. And he's like, yeah, you can build a mine,
556
00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:05.759
I just with your graphics card and you can just
557
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turn over and stuff. And I'm like, I was good
558
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:08.720
to go, what do we need to do? You know,
559
00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:10.960
what do we go? Let's do it? And anyways say
560
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he's like all right, leave it with me for like
561
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a couple of days, you know. So it goes away,
562
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he comes back with it, and I've sort of been
563
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planning it out, all right, my computer's going to be
564
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like this, and then I use it durning our day
565
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for UNI work, and then it's just going to run
566
00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:23.799
and turn over a bitcoin or you know whatever turnover
567
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:26.759
and it goes n left done the maths, and I
568
00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:28.640
trusted him Becau He's done an investment banking degree in
569
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.119
New York. He's like, I've done the maths. We're going
570
00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.799
to spend We're going to pay way more in power
571
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:36.200
than we will in bitcoin because we're only going to
572
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:38.480
be overturning over like a bitcoin a day or something
573
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.400
like that. And at that time the ship was worth nothing.
574
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.000
Really Yeah, So he's like, we're never going to do it,
575
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.880
and I was like, yeah, an extra four hundred dollars
576
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.559
a month for a year to shit in like power build,
577
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:52.160
it's never going to work. Bro, we would have been
578
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:54.599
fucking card. I probably would have sold it at a thousand,
579
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:56.079
but who knew it was getting to like one hundred
580
00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:59.839
thousand US right, Like yeah, but yeah, I just I
581
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:01.400
every time I look at him there, every time I
582
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:02.519
tell him an idea and I look.
583
00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:04.599
At him I'm like, yeah, that's the right, big poin motherfucker.
584
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:08.880
Yeah. Yeah, ship. So you just got to really just
585
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.519
give it a little go and then see you can
586
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.119
you learn quickly if you're going to fail. Yeah.
587
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:17.119
And I also think maybe it's just like that's the
588
00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.480
great thing I suppose been in s and stuff over
589
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:22.200
the years. You know, you just think numbers and how
590
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.680
do I move it fast? And how do I over commerce?
591
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:27.200
And yeah you're just like, all right, I can do this,
592
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:29.119
you know, I just need to figure out a way.
593
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:32.480
But do you feel like building an empire with that skill?
594
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.680
Because I mean the sales is the critical bit, right,
595
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.240
Like when you're going to if you've got to go
596
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.880
into picture a startup, you know, to why Combinator or
597
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.160
something like that. Those guys in Silicon Valley, you've got
598
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.480
the skill that other people don't have. Like you might
599
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:50.720
have a technical person to help you to do all
600
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.440
the technical stuff, and you're the pitch guy. And you know,
601
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.160
you might have two tech guys and they don't have
602
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.160
the ability to pitch and their ship falls over. But
603
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.680
you've got the res and the all the you know
604
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:02.400
the stuff. Yeah, I think it's well when I walk
605
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.119
into a room as well, I can see like who's
606
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.000
in charge in the room, like my intuition and stuff.
607
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.680
Maybe that's because I'm the youngest of the seven, probably
608
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:11.839
watching all major siblings and watch you must happen or
609
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:13.640
he's going to be in trouble today, you know. I
610
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.400
see he should have said that at all. He's going
611
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:16.680
to read.
612
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:18.960
You're just going to start reading. So I'm good at
613
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.799
reading the room. I'll walk into a room and I
614
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.519
would be very quiet, like almost stand off it. And
615
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:28.759
eventually when I just kind of work out a position
616
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:32.119
the persons in the room, who's the alpha male, who's
617
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.680
the quiet person, Who's the intelligent guy that just has
618
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.599
a good point to say. Once I have that figured out,
619
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.200
it's like I can just take that I'm not. I
620
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.240
feel like I can take the room over if I
621
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.319
wanted that. I do it by doing this I do.
622
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.519
I've always done it with humor, crack a Joe. And
623
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:50.759
then I watch people reacting to it, and I'm kind
624
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.480
of gathering. My brain goes very fast and gathering information
625
00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:55.359
and then I go all right, I can say this
626
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.480
here or this, and then I can lead or change
627
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:01.480
the conversation in different ways and then I eventually, when
628
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.160
I see them all at the same level, I'll pitch
629
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.759
an idea and they'll all go, that's great. But if
630
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:08.359
I didn't do it at the right time, I don't
631
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:09.440
know how that makes sense.
632
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.279
Yeah, that's perfect sense. I mean, that's that's about of war,
633
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:14.119
isn't it. You got to like study your finding.
634
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.240
Yeah, that's it. But some things I can just do it.
635
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.559
But just sitting there quietly and watching the room, you know,
636
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:21.799
and I say, oh, that that person is going to
637
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.680
knock this idea very quickly. If I don't say, if
638
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:26.839
I don't acknowledge them.
639
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.200
Yeah, is it body language or what's that? What's your tips?
640
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:34.839
It's body damage. Body damage is massive. Body language, even
641
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:39.720
their eyebrows or frowned. The the quiet person is hard
642
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:41.759
to tell sometimes yeah, you know, but I can read
643
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:43.559
them in their eyes almost, you know, if I have
644
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:45.880
their interest the good numbers and stuff.
645
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.079
But that's all that's all for television really, you know.
646
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.559
But if I had like a group of guys in
647
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.200
the room, I could read them really well and then
648
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.680
deliver the message at the right time when they're maybe
649
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:04.799
their emotions or a certain level. But seeing about humor,
650
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.039
humor breaks the whole room and brings everybody in the
651
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:13.680
same level, not the sales guys. They talk about tonality
652
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:18.519
and voice and the body language and overcoming objections and
653
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.160
rolling stuff. But what I've noticed over the years is
654
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.960
that the power of humor is almost hypnotic. You can
655
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:28.440
change someone's mindset really quickly. It doesn't matter what they
656
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.799
think of you. Yeah, if you crack a good joke
657
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.279
or even better, at a story. I'm very good at
658
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.519
just whacking out the story just out of the blue.
659
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:37.920
It's almost like a shock to their system, like they
660
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:38.759
got an electric shock.
661
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:39.079
Yeah.
662
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:41.359
Yeah, this guy's just tell the story. And it could
663
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.880
be a random story. But after that story, they've forgotten
664
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.160
about what they're thinking about. Now they're all laughing, they're
665
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.160
all feeling good. And then I'll just kind of go o.
666
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.359
I'll go in with a message or going with what
667
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.880
I kind of want to do, and sometimes I'll just
668
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.880
sit back and watch the whole room talking about something
669
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.359
that I brought them to the area. Yeah, and I
670
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.680
can change the energy in the room. But sometimes when
671
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.440
I walk into a room and I'm just.
672
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.839
Standing back and I'll actually be very quiet, and I'll
673
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.000
almost be a little bit shy, kind of just standing
674
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.599
back watching and eventually one on one is scranned one
675
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:15.839
on one.
676
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:17.079
I think a lot of people have the skilled one
677
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:17.960
on one, but at the group.
678
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:19.279
Yeah, the group.
679
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:23.079
But that's why I love the sauna. And one of
680
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.000
the biggest laughs I had one night, I was like, guys,
681
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.279
I know it's a heat wave rolling this together. I
682
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.119
can see my reflection already on your forehead. But I said,
683
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.319
believe me. I said, comedians tell me ron the harvesting
684
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.319
through is making people laugh in a hot room. Guys,
685
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.480
I practice all my stories in the sauna.
686
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.440
Yeah, And I said, they come in, they close the door,
687
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.720
they can't leave for ten minutes. It's perfect.
688
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.319
I don't know if it's tears of laughing coming out
689
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.920
of their eyes or just sweat who you know. And
690
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:50.599
I said, that's how we get stuck in And then
691
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:52.440
I just did the deck is a bit of a laugh.
692
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.480
But you're really doing it to get them on the
693
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.119
way past with a jerk. If you can crack that person,
694
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:59.799
you know you're into a yeah. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
695
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.240
I was telling me, like when I walk into the sauna,
696
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:05.279
sometimes my opening line like for U s where it
697
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:08.279
was a chash up line just for blokes, and I
698
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.039
would just turn around walk into the sauna, you know,
699
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.480
to get them chatting. You know, I'd go on, wh.
700
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:13.359
Youdn't mind me? Asking?
701
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:14.799
How long would you stay in here?
702
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:19.240
Now? Far? I never got, oh, fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes,
703
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.160
ten minute, fifteen joone opens his fifteen minutes and three
704
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.880
rounds like come in and take a break, cold shower,
705
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.279
And then if they weren't talking after that, I leave
706
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:28.680
them alone.
707
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:30.880
You know, I try and get but they might be
708
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.519
busy day at work. Then some other person would walk
709
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.119
in and I find this funny because I noticed they
710
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.680
all noticed it. Next guy come in, sister, and I go,
711
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.359
how are yeah? We're good? Do you mind me asking
712
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:43.640
how long would you stay in here for?
713
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:44.200
You know?
714
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:46.839
And then after two or three times, the first guy
715
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:51.160
just goes, does this guy believe any of us?
716
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.119
You know? And next thing, eventually, after one or two
717
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.960
weeks and they see me do it again, They're like, Jesus,
718
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:58.200
do you just say this?
719
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.079
And got asked to get you talking, isn't it? And
720
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.200
some guy would laugh, you know, And then some guy
721
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:04.960
would just put his towel over his face and he
722
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.720
sees me walk in and peeping out, and humor is great.
723
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:10.759
It's really it's like a little sitcom because you could
724
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:14.039
fit yeah, ten people in there comfortably. Maybe less, but yeah,
725
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.319
you've got your characters. And you see a guy walking
726
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.160
you're like, yes, I like I know that guy, I
727
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.400
know what he makes him laugh. I know this guy,
728
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.680
and yeah, you know, it's kind of like a revolving
729
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:24.359
door a sitcom. It would actually be a great premise
730
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:25.640
for a sitcom. It'd be brilliant.
731
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:27.799
And also, you know, when you have your little group
732
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.559
of friends in school, when you're younger and you feel comfortable,
733
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.400
then you can really be your authentic self in the sauna.
734
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.920
When you see someone new walk in, you know, hey,
735
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.680
who's going? And then you see someone that you.
736
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.160
Know, Hey who's going?
737
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.519
But I always try to include the new person and
738
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.039
they want to be part of it. You can see
739
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.839
by their body language that they're they're looking straight ahead,
740
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.599
but they're definitely listening because we're just letting city right
741
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:53.759
next to each other. And eventually I go, what do
742
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.279
you think of that? And then they'll go oh, And
743
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.000
then you.
744
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.799
Pull them in. I love pulling people in to the conversation.
745
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.440
I think that's great. Have you I've fucking failed miserably
746
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.000
at that. When you're trying to pull someone in and
747
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.480
they just give you nothing, you're like, I just leave
748
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:08.880
them off.
749
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:12.640
But I always you can see them sometimes they're ignoring you,
750
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.480
as if like no no interest in conversation. But then
751
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.240
now and again, when you're laughing or talking about something,
752
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.359
you can just see their eyes looking over and you
753
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.200
have a little smile cracking on their face. You know
754
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.759
they're still listening, and I think they don't realize it.
755
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.359
But this is this is my idea, and I like
756
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.160
what I think. People go to the son AND's goin
757
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.079
to escape the worlds. But then when you go to
758
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.079
the sauna and you're there on your own, and there's
759
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:36.960
two other people in there, and you're all quiet and
760
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.279
you're trying to meditate, you know yourself, the heat is
761
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:41.759
on top of you, and you can that you have
762
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:43.680
those thoughts in your mind that you're trying to get
763
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.880
rid of those negative thoughts. The quickest way to get
764
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:48.720
rid of the negative thoughts is be wrong people that
765
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:50.559
are talking about something different, Do you know what I mean?
766
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:51.039
I love it.
767
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.039
Sometimes I'm in there kind of going God to the
768
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.240
point am I thinking about this certain idea in my head?
769
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:57.880
The next thing you pulled into that kind of a conversation.
770
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.640
You walk out feeling better. You feel better because it's connection.
771
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.000
You know, four hundred thousand years are doing that, and
772
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.079
then all of a sudden, this phone comes in in
773
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:06.839
one generation, we kind of forgot how to do it.
774
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.480
A big part of it is not having distractions. Like
775
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.480
that's such a huge case in film. I think that
776
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.480
people aren't stating is like, sure, you've got Netflix, you
777
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.720
can be in the comfort of your own home, But
778
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:20.039
to go somewhere and not be allowed to use your
779
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.079
phone and have a complete blackout and just a film
780
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.799
adventure coming through the You know, a good film hopefully
781
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.720
is totally different from being a home or being around
782
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.759
because you got your phone with you. That's the one
783
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:33.759
thing you know, there's no distractions. You focus, and that's
784
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.400
how you absorb something great like Jassic Park for the
785
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.000
first time that when we were in LA and they
786
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.000
were talking about it and talking to producers over there,
787
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.039
there's people getting notes saying that it's not second screen enough.
788
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.839
Like you give them an idea, a plot or whatever,
789
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.559
and they're like, yeah, it's not second screen enough, and
790
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.559
you're like the fuck you're talking about and he's like,
791
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.200
second screen enough. It means like you've got to account
792
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.640
for the data on Netflix or whatever. And the data
793
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.200
is most people are going to be having their phone
794
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.559
in front of them, just rolling news and social media
795
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:03.720
while the movie's on. So if you don't make it
796
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.319
basic as fuck and keep hitting that same plot point
797
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.039
over and over explaining who the characters are all that
798
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.400
shit about fifty times in the movie, they're not going
799
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.519
to get it right. But because it's data driven metrics
800
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.199
now and they're like figuring out what's going to suit
801
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:20.079
most people and be less of a risk to take,
802
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.119
you're just not getting people take chances like back to
803
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.119
the Future. If you're watching that for the first time
804
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:25.960
and you miss a key path and you're not coming
805
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:26.440
back from it.
806
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:28.639
Yeah, I never went into them when people the one
807
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.360
day he was hearing for years was like, oh, people's
808
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.360
memory span is too short. Now, you know, you've got
809
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.079
to be me to the point. I never believe that
810
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.480
because I was at the LA State Fair and I
811
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.239
was helping out to skuy pitching products and they put
812
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.599
me with a guy I was pitching the same product
813
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.840
for seven years, and I was watching him, and they
814
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:48.480
gave me the script and I looked at the scripts
815
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:51.159
and I said, Goddess is des but hard to get it,
816
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.559
Like what d hen you know, just didn't get my
817
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:56.320
robot or something. So I just threw way a script
818
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:58.320
and this guy left and we were doing like two
819
00:34:58.320 --> 00:34:59.480
hours up, two hours down.
820
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.199
And he left, and I was.
821
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.480
Doing old school off the back of a truck, some
822
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.400
massive fear of work in the streets, so so bigel
823
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:11.639
and I was just looking at the people, the crowds,
824
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.639
and one guy goes, oh, hello, would you like to
825
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.519
see how it works? No, okay, thanks very much, would
826
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:18.880
you like to see how it works? But my thing
827
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.000
is I can belly up an edge, pull a crowd
828
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.360
really quick, very fast, and then I'll work out the product,
829
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.039
you know. So this guy walked away and I was like,
830
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:28.800
all right, right, he's gone, knowing right, it was like
831
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.239
my first day America, for the first day doing like
832
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.559
a state fair for some dudes, you know, give me
833
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.559
a bit of a percentage. And I just started like
834
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.599
a bang, you know, and I pulled the crowd in
835
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:41.840
and I was like right now, right here, watching what
836
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:43.440
I'm going to do, and I'm going to show you
837
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.280
how it works. And I started showing him how the works.
838
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.360
Then I kept on changing my tonality and voice hire her,
839
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.000
almost like an auctionaire. But then I dropped it down,
840
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.320
went all serious again, and then I just told him
841
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.079
a story that had nothing got to do with the product.
842
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.800
And I was on this random story, but they were
843
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.039
all listening to me once I had their attention, and
844
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.159
he goes, oh, guys, let's go back to the product.
845
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.320
And then I slowed it right down. And then I
846
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.239
just went a little bit harder and I goes, right now,
847
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:09.480
right here, do you know what I'm going to do?
848
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.000
Biggest crowd. I've had all datings, biggest biggest crowd, whom
849
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.320
ever going to get this whole month? And I'll pop
850
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.000
this in for free disparate And instead of selling one
851
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.599
for twenty, I was doing five four, one hundred, and
852
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.719
I ran the register. There was just a cue of
853
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.280
people and they did more two hours than they did
854
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.679
the whole day. And the main guy that saw me,
855
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:29.920
the boss guy, he came up and he was like going,
856
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.079
and I thought he'd mass script. I thought he just
857
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.119
got this guy's a legend now. And he pulled me
858
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.119
off the stand and he brought me outside, and I
859
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:38.599
don't know what he was thinking, but he was like,
860
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.480
I was the master, I was the best of this,
861
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.360
I'm the best of all time. You don't do it
862
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.039
like that, you don't do it. And I was like what,
863
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:48.000
And he was like going people's attention span and even
864
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:50.199
done about this big role Spencer, And I was like
865
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.119
all right, And then I just kept him happy and
866
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.599
went back onto the stand. But they all forget that.
867
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.920
It's the story. If you can pull people in with
868
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.800
a good story and a good scene, a good hope intro,
869
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.519
a good hope, a good scene, a good intro. Even
870
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.800
you have the music to play with as well, if
871
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.320
it's good enough. If we walk up the street there
872
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.800
and there's an argument in the street with two guys,
873
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.840
we're all going to stop and watch. Some guy gets
874
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:18.800
knocked on by car, We're all going to stop. If
875
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.000
something like it's a heart attack in the street, we're
876
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.920
all going to stop and watch. It's just that that
877
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:27.119
emotion people are looking at each other. It's the same
878
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.199
thing for a thousand years, you know. But I agree
879
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:35.039
with you, eh, what you were saying earlier about the database.
880
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.760
Yeah, like if you were to do that with comedy,
881
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.280
which you're probably saying, you know, you just imagine what
882
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.159
comedy comedians are they using chat gbtata rather they just
883
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.119
definitely because right as block of motherfucker, you know, and
884
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.679
you got five minutes to write in, you're about ten
885
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:51.920
minutes to do it, so you want to do like
886
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.719
you know, that is a temptation. It's dog shit, but
887
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:58.079
it gets them out of like the hard bit because
888
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.280
I think writing and realizing, oh fuck, I got nothing right,
889
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.920
that's the hardest bit. So that's learning off all of
890
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.519
those dudes, and they're all sharing. There's probably ten dudes
891
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.840
riding this saying the same jokes in different parts of
892
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:11.800
the world. The chat GVT is just spurred it out
893
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.599
a similar, very very similar thing. But actually, do you
894
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.719
know what, because I've used AI a lot now and
895
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.800
I started to think that maybe creativity is the superpower
896
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.599
now it is because I don't know if chat JPT
897
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.360
can be creative, Like can AI ever be truly creative?
898
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:29.880
I'm not sure.
899
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.519
I remember before you'd go on and then would say,
900
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:35.119
or can you see the traffic light? Some sort of
901
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.880
a code to be software. How many mortor bikes from
902
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:38.960
this picture, but.
903
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.239
I think they catch a code. Y.
904
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.800
We go back to the sauna and these five guys
905
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:44.880
walk into the sauna and one sort of starts the
906
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:48.000
conversation and it just keeps rolling and going in different directions,
907
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.679
with different emotions in different times days a seashell rolling
908
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.679
around the ocean. If there was some way to capture that,
909
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.880
there's no way I AI could know where the conversation
910
00:38:58.000 --> 00:38:58.400
is going to go.
911
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:00.559
Yeah, and we're on like this.
912
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.079
Well, the creative person might be writing like this, and
913
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.639
I can look at all Shakespearean writes and stuff, But
914
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:09.360
the minute there's three or four people together, there's no
915
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:12.079
way the computer can figure out where that conversation is
916
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:12.440
going to go.
917
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:16.119
Yeah, you know, especially strangers. But like we're all watching
918
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.719
the same media at the moment. Yeah, maybe that, But eventually,
919
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:21.480
if you just three or four different people and a
920
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.239
woman walks in with a colorful bikini, all the mints
921
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.400
stop and go quiet, and she leaves and in one
922
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.800
gog we go, oh Jesus, she's gorgeous.
923
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:32.280
Ever, you know, if you don't know where it's going.
924
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, because I have a nerdy streak,
925
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:37.199
and I play this game called Magic, the gathering I
926
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:38.880
got stuck into in high SCHOOLCAU I want to know,
927
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.039
boys school, we were in this nerdy shit and then
928
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:42.800
but it sort of made a reassurgence and I played
929
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.599
a little bit of it and I went in. I thought,
930
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.280
I'm getting pretty good at this, Like I'm beating most
931
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:47.360
of my friends. So I'm going to go in the
932
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.400
tournament just to see what it's like. And so I
933
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.239
enrolled myself in this tournament a in Kennington. You know,
934
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.599
there's a shop out there, so I think there's all
935
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.559
these tables and there's all these days and I walk in. Dude,
936
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.719
I'm like, holy fuck, there's like nerdiest of the nerdy
937
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.559
rat Like I'm going to get fucked up, and like
938
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.760
you can. You buy your cards and you assembly your
939
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.000
deck and it's all unique and a sixty shit and
940
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.760
you're playing some dude, and so you're playing in sets
941
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:11.239
of four and you just got to beat the other
942
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:13.760
three dudes. As soon as I sit down, I realized,
943
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.440
I'm the only dude without autism. And this if I
944
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:18.840
have not got autism, I'm the only one in this
945
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.159
group that don't have it like one dude had it
946
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:22.840
in like a fucking made up language, like you know,
947
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:24.599
the Lord of the Rings. How they have like elvish
948
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:26.920
kind of writing. Yeah, there's a magic version of this
949
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:30.199
card FORRECTIONI This motherfucker had all these cards in Fororeccian
950
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.159
and was just reading it like you know, he just
951
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.840
it was just his thing for autism. I quickly realized, like, dude,
952
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.440
this guy's like computers. I can't beat them just by
953
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.199
playing by the rules. So I started doing all the
954
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.880
fucked up movies, like things that didn't make sense, that
955
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.320
will melt down. There was kind of like you can't,
956
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.039
why would you do? Why it's not how you and
957
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:50.000
then you just like take advantage of that and just
958
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.920
destroy them, like and it was like really successful because
959
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.199
it was just like so outside and it was like randomized,
960
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.239
you know, I just just killed this creature and then
961
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.960
do this sort of thing. And then I was like, man,
962
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:03.800
this is the way you play autistic, dude. You know,
963
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.079
you do the thing that's unexpected, that last there's illogical,
964
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:08.880
and then see how it goes. And I think that's
965
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.880
why the world might have to go that. How do
966
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:12.880
you make a lot of money in a new business.
967
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.800
In a brand new business, right, you have to be
968
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:18.559
illogical and create something.
969
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:22.079
We have to be Definitely, I've always just kind of
970
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.880
worked on my own over the years. I've always done
971
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:26.480
my own thing, you know, because I can make decisions
972
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:30.119
very fast and that turned over stuff very quickly. But
973
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.679
I think I would love to have been in a
974
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:38.320
room creating like a marketing strategy with a group of people.
975
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:38.719
Yeah.
976
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.000
I think I would just excel with the whole group
977
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:42.800
as well around me.
978
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:43.760
Why haven't you done that?
979
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:46.920
Just over the years, I just kind of like looked
980
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:50.159
at I can do this here, turn over this amount
981
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:51.719
of money, and then it just gives me a huge
982
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.039
amount of freedom and I can go off and travel
983
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.920
around the world like I've been in so many countries,
984
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.800
and I used to bring products in, sell it, get
985
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:04.360
the money, close the storage store, give the container back,
986
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:06.360
and I'm innosies.
987
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:08.960
Yeah, traveling through Argentina.
988
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.559
Up and Columbia or the middle of Nora and Canada,
989
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:15.719
are in talkio on the streets from a something, you know.
990
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.480
It's I mean, it's an addictive life. I've heard I've
991
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:21.039
got a really good business mentor and she said, you
992
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:24.800
go faster alone and further with people, So faster a
993
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.639
lawn and further with people. So like to get to
994
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.440
the next level when you're building something that is you know,
995
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.440
constant passive strain of income, like a company building or
996
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:35.199
something that you might need a group of people. But
997
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.639
I mean, I love that. That's why documentaries is my
998
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.599
favorite form of film to shoot, because you just immerse
999
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:44.000
yourself in a culture. You in bed, you learn, you immerse,
1000
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.519
you walk out with a story and hopefully it's beneficial
1001
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.119
to them. Yeah. So it's very nimble, and it is stressful.
1002
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.400
She goes wrong, you're in big trouble and you know
1003
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.000
you lose it. But I started taking one dude with me,
1004
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:58.719
and I realized the benefits of having two people. You know,
1005
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:00.599
he can just talk to someone body and I can
1006
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.440
be shooting this and with Donald to see if a
1007
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.199
camera equipment and bits and pieces, you know, I say, yeah.
1008
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:08.719
I remember years ago, I brought a guy on with me.
1009
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.360
He was an engineer and he was really bored, and
1010
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.079
I brought him into my world of just like going
1011
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.320
to markets and shows. Brought him into shopping center malls,
1012
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.199
and I remember the first week he could barely make
1013
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.679
eye contact with people, you know. But then I just
1014
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:28.360
started saying his strengths in his own personality and he
1015
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.559
was really fond of like elderly people and he loved
1016
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:31.320
chatting to them.
1017
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:31.760
You know.
1018
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:33.800
I was watching that, and it was just something I
1019
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:35.480
saw on him. I goes, I can work with this guy.
1020
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.079
I can make him better, you know, and then I
1021
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.599
started training as much as I could to make him
1022
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:42.880
his best, the best version of him. And then we're
1023
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.360
in a shopping center. We're young in Melbourne, and he
1024
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.639
was he was he was getting really really good. You know,
1025
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.039
I was watching him, but he just wasn't breaking through.
1026
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.280
He just wasn't breaking through, you know, he was going
1027
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.360
to just go stagnant together sile or comedy like know
1028
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.239
that this I got. My thing is like I was
1029
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:03.639
stop like one hundred people and I break it down,
1030
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.599
get fifty people, pull them in tight in the middle
1031
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.440
of them all. I get friendly with the security. They
1032
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.840
kind of leave me off, you know, and then management
1033
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:11.320
might give out to me a small but as well.
1034
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.199
But I don't think many people were doing the way
1035
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.239
I was doing it. Maybe in the nineteen twenties or
1036
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:20.280
thirties hungry, but he was like getting a group of
1037
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.960
twenty people and he might sell like four or five
1038
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.280
of them. And I was watching him and I was like,
1039
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.000
oh am I going to do this, you know the
1040
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.000
next thing one day. I hate a big crowd. And
1041
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:31.519
he was kind of giving me the look as if
1042
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.599
like look what I'm doing. And I walked up to him, like, go.
1043
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:35.719
Do you think he did good?
1044
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.599
And he was like, yeah, your shit, you're fired. You
1045
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:41.519
know what I think You're fired. I said, you can
1046
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:43.760
head back to Western Australia. I said forget it, you know,
1047
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.519
torch you everything, I said, just still doing the same
1048
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:49.159
old stuff he was, and you could see he was
1049
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.320
almost on the world, being emotional and because now I
1050
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:52.920
give up me and I said finish it, you know,
1051
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:55.800
I said, I've taught everything, and look what you're doing,
1052
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.639
you know, four or five people. And he's freaking all angry,
1053
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.920
and I could hear bubbling up his voice almost like
1054
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:01.400
the emotion.
1055
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:03.719
And he goes, go and show me so again, show me,
1056
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.440
and then his tonality and voice changed and he started
1057
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:11.039
getting angry or angry or understand talking to me, show
1058
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.440
me how the product works, almost like some guy that
1059
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.679
was going to explode. And I was looking at and
1060
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.480
I was like, yeah, yeah, go on, yeah, And I
1061
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.159
stood back and people started coming in front of me,
1062
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.679
you know, people started gathering up. The next thing, I
1063
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.719
started walking backwards from the crowd, and the crowd kind
1064
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:26.840
of walked in towards him.
1065
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.920
And next thing, I'm backing off the crowd. The crowd
1066
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.920
was getting bigger and bigger, and the whole mall was
1067
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:35.239
very stopped up. And then I'm looking at him and
1068
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.159
he's still angry with me. He wanted to punch me,
1069
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:38.559
you know, and I'm looking at him as if like,
1070
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:40.679
look at the crowd, look at the crowd, and he's
1071
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.000
still staring at me with his big red head up
1072
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:43.280
with him.
1073
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:44.360
I was.
1074
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.199
Anyway, I just looked at him and I went run
1075
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.559
the stand and I just goes change your tonalogy, look
1076
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.280
at the crowd. The next thing, he went what And
1077
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:56.320
he just looked and he's he's just opened and he
1078
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.599
just saw like one hundreds of people. And I was like,
1079
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.320
going closed him and I walked away from the crowd.
1080
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:06.280
And he closed fifty people and he took like fifty
1081
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.320
bucks off each person. It was big money, yea, and
1082
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:11.760
night he closed everybody. The next thing, at the end
1083
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.119
of the night by goes boom, and he was slangery
1084
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:15.639
with me because I just didn't want to hit you,
1085
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.920
you know, And I was like, well, might do it again?
1086
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.760
Do it again and again and again by this and
1087
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.960
then he was getting that he was getting little bit
1088
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.599
big headed in one night and he was working late
1089
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.519
on Thursday nights and another big mall, and I walked
1090
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.480
in and he was brilliant to this stage, but I
1091
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:34.920
just had to kind of leave him. And I walked
1092
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.719
in and then I created this massive chaos. I went
1093
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.360
too hard and security had to be called, and I
1094
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:42.800
was just cracking boxes and I had a stick and
1095
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.639
I was breaking a stick on the middle in the mall,
1096
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.079
Like you know, one of the biggest malls was like
1097
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:51.599
basking kind of style. But with products, it's almost like
1098
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:58.239
street performer slash comedian. If you had a blender street performer,
1099
00:46:58.239 --> 00:46:59.360
you're trying to sell me a blender.
1100
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:02.719
Drop a street.
1101
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.239
Performer, and drop a comedian, and drop an auctioneire in
1102
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:11.039
and then just drop in a crazy person. Yeah, and
1103
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.360
then you tried to get all those different parts of
1104
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.840
the voice in the story in the pitch.
1105
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:18.719
I became really good at it.
1106
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:21.360
I used to love breaking it down and prefer But
1107
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:25.360
I remember the most enjoyment I had over the years,
1108
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.280
I stopped carrying about clicking the money. I took on
1109
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:33.039
sixteen South Americans staff, and I had I was doing
1110
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:36.400
static lines, which weren't maybe pitch lines of demonstration. So
1111
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.800
you get people around and some of them had no English.
1112
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.039
I wrote a little script for them and I highlighted
1113
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:43.400
the words.
1114
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.760
Would have to change their voice for the words, you know,
1115
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.800
and I said, this is how you stop people, put
1116
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:50.360
them over blah blah blah, and that's how you close them.
1117
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.400
And then I noticed that I was trying to train them.
1118
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:56.199
So what I would do is I would train them
1119
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:58.599
one on one, spend two or three days, and I
1120
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.800
would see their personality and I would ask them questions
1121
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.000
about their family, their upbringing, and then I would just
1122
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.760
highlight something they told me in the story. Almost like
1123
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:11.079
like one guy who was in the soccer We'll say
1124
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:14.159
from Chile and he know English, and I was like,
1125
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.119
all right, but you know when you say they get
1126
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.199
the goal, you go go yeah, and he was like
1127
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:24.559
yeah yeah, and he goes, who Chili from Argentina. Argentina
1128
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.719
just got a goal. Chili's one goal, there's ten minutes left.
1129
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:31.159
What type of tonealogy would you talking to the team?
1130
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.440
And he was already getting excited in front of me
1131
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.599
with his neck and yeah yeah, one now read the
1132
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.559
script like that and I was like, oh, that show
1133
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:40.519
me now, and then I goes right eye contact. But
1134
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.199
the South Americans have very good body lamage. They're very
1135
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.480
good body damage now. And then one girl was super shy,
1136
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:48.960
and I goes, that's great, so you're like to pritty ship.
1137
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.599
I found each one of them needed a message for
1138
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:58.880
their brain to click. But then watching their confidence grow
1139
00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:03.760
was just so rewarding. And I would just say on Monday,
1140
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.159
look what you can do on Monday, And look what
1141
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.119
you can do on Friday. Remember your first day, remember today,
1142
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:12.280
Remember now next week. Then I'm gonna give the massive incentives,
1143
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:13.920
you know. And it was just me and then so
1144
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.400
it was just I was just the boss. Were just
1145
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.360
all working for me. And I had eight shopping centers,
1146
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:22.679
sixteen staff, two in each center, and I turned them
1147
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:27.079
on into just like create salespeople. But more importantly, I
1148
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.480
brought them all out for dinner every Sunday night to
1149
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.159
this speak Irish bar, and I was just watching them
1150
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.960
all around me, and I was like going their confidence
1151
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.719
and they had no English, like, they had no English
1152
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.000
in their confidence. And one guy told me a very
1153
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:42.599
good story. His name was Diego and he was my
1154
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:44.599
bag man, and he'd go and colleck the stuff for me,
1155
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.000
you know. And I had him a van, I had
1156
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.320
him a car in a truck, and he a girl
1157
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.880
friend with him. But remember when he called me. I
1158
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.239
was at some show in Western Australia and he called
1159
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:56.239
me up and he.
1160
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:59.639
Said, hello, Ronnie. He said I'm looking for a job,
1161
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:01.440
you know. And I was like, oh, yeah, jash no,
1162
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:03.840
I wash, yeah, Diego sounds good. Tell me all about it.
1163
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:05.119
He's gonna tell me about himself. You know.
1164
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.599
I was an engineer and chili and I could, God
1165
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.800
do you what is you? And he's like going, I'm thirty.
1166
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.119
This is years ago. I was in my twenties.
1167
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.599
And he goes, I'm thirty two years of aach and
1168
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:17.480
I goes, oh, sorry, Diego, you're much too old.
1169
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:22.559
And I hung up hated for about ten to fifteen minutes.
1170
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:26.000
I called him back and I said, little Diego. He's like, yes,
1171
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:26.880
this is Diego.
1172
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:28.559
I say, God, Diego money joke.
1173
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.920
And you're hired and he's like what. He's like, oh,
1174
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:32.920
thank you so much.
1175
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:35.159
When I got friend of me was like, oh, I
1176
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.039
was with my girlfriend Carolina and she said, how is
1177
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:39.920
it going On the first conversation, he was like, yeah,
1178
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.079
toms up, tombs up, and then he put the phone down.
1179
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:47.039
She goes, what happened? He said, I'm too. When I
1180
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.559
became great bodies with him and he was a great guy.
1181
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.280
I'm still very good friends with him, Carolina and Diego.
1182
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.960
How much of it is being Irish? Do you think
1183
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.719
like being another coaches in other countries, does that help
1184
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:03.000
you sort of trendscend because Irishly known for being fun
1185
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:06.760
and lovable and headbutting you, but it also fun and lovable,
1186
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:10.320
you know, like it is it is? I think so
1187
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:10.800
as well.
1188
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:12.840
I would be I supposing the cultural of things, but
1189
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:14.519
I would have gone to school with a lot of
1190
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.679
guys that have been very quiet and they will come
1191
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:19.559
out to Australia and they would have just got a
1192
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:21.760
job and stuff. So I think it's more got to
1193
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.920
do with their personality, you know, and the confidence that
1194
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:30.920
people get along the way and overcoming something. I think
1195
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.199
like I was able to show people's sales, but if
1196
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.480
you learn any skill and at the start of that skill,
1197
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.480
you're learning and you're not so good at it. But
1198
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:43.360
if someone shows you very quickly, look how good you
1199
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:45.039
can become at this with just a little bit of
1200
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.760
an effort, bit of work. And it doesn't matter what
1201
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:48.119
it is.
1202
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:48.639
I don't care.
1203
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:51.119
It was building a coffin, and it sounds strange building
1204
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:54.840
a bicycle, but learning something and seeing how good you
1205
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:59.159
can become a bit of effort. And what happens there
1206
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:03.320
in that line is I think people don't realize it.
1207
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:06.639
You're building confidence in that person, and that's a seed
1208
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.000
you have that I don't matter you hear it like
1209
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:10.800
a lot of people's no jiu jitsu.
1210
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:11.800
Now it's big.
1211
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.639
That's a rhythm of confidence growing. And it could be writing,
1212
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.119
it could be doing stand up, it could be swimming
1213
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:21.760
in the ocean. But my biggest thing is confidence. Confidence
1214
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:23.719
can change people instantly.
1215
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:25.480
It can just pull it. I don't care what you're
1216
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:28.280
studying in school, how good you are you go through university.
1217
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.599
You can be working for someone for thirty years if
1218
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.719
you do something and you just give it a little
1219
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:37.199
bit of confidence. Because sometimes people don't get confidence growing up.
1220
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.639
They don't get that punched on the shoulder saying good job,
1221
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:41.760
you got stock in you did a good job. You know.
1222
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.599
Sometimes people are too critical and children and stuff, you know,
1223
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.920
but like if you get a little bit of confidence,
1224
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.480
and sometimes you just I just want to say, punch
1225
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.239
the confidence into someone. In a very violent analogy. He's
1226
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:56.920
looking for stuff around the desk to punch.
1227
00:52:58.320 --> 00:52:59.920
I get frustrated. I think as I can see like
1228
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.320
how good someone can be and they just lack of confidence,
1229
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:05.960
and they did just that little bit of like, come on,
1230
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:07.840
believe in yourself. You know you can do this.
1231
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.880
And I think teachers should do a course in that.
1232
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.280
I had one teacher in school and I wasn't very
1233
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:16.679
good at school. I had no interest really, but one teacher,
1234
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:18.599
he was a woodwork teacher, and we all had to
1235
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.280
do drawings. And it's amazing the stuff that you'll remember.
1236
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.119
A lot of people remember the stuff when people are
1237
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.960
knocked and you always remember that. But I always remember
1238
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.920
one woodwork teacher and we're doing drawings, draw furniture and
1239
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.199
I was just drawing. I knew how to drew that
1240
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:34.679
box to make it look like three D bottles, drawing
1241
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:37.559
this massive furniture and I drew love hearts and you
1242
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.320
cut the love hurt, and I kind of got furry
1243
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.920
into it. It was like a big paper and it
1244
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.000
was like a tech room and we're all drawing, and
1245
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:46.480
at my class was the delinquents, like you know, we
1246
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:48.760
were like the link wents like you know, and it
1247
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:52.000
drains and he just caught me and then everybody's leaving
1248
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.360
and he pulled me back and he goes, did you
1249
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.199
do this? And I said yeah. He said, that's a phenomenon.
1250
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:01.199
He goes, that's incredible. But I was kind of smart
1251
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:04.079
enough as a kid street wise. I knew what he
1252
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:04.559
was doing.
1253
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:05.800
You know.
1254
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.760
It's almost saying to a woman that it's beautiful on you.
1255
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:09.800
It's like an an out trick.
1256
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:11.960
He knew he was doing it. But at the same time,
1257
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.000
I felt good that he made the effort to say
1258
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.320
to me. So I always made an effort to do
1259
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:21.079
well in his class, and then I didn He pulled
1260
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:24.679
me aside another day and he bounced me up against
1261
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:28.440
the lockers in the room, old school teacher, and he asked,
1262
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:32.400
one of you, you're laughing and joking, He said, your
1263
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:35.719
massive potentially, and you're just wasting your time here. You know,
1264
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.760
he said, if you just make a little bit of effort.
1265
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:42.039
That that little speech he gave me, who became the
1266
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:43.840
best in the class. That I was taking everybody als
1267
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:46.400
his projects and doing their projects as well. And then
1268
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:50.280
I had another teacher and then but I would laugh
1269
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:52.719
that other teachers then would give you an awful knocking
1270
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.480
because they're bitter, they're an alcoholic, and they would say
1271
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:56.000
you're losing.
1272
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:57.079
You're not going to go anywhere.
1273
00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:59.599
I would look at them and I'd be smiling at
1274
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:00.400
them as flake.
1275
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:03.719
You know, this is HILARI. You think that's going to
1276
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:04.960
break me. But I was at the kid.
1277
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:06.639
But there was other guys in the class that that
1278
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.320
teacher said it to them. They crumbled something like that
1279
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:13.880
to another fellow. We crumble. And I could see teachers
1280
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.679
doing not the other guys. They crumbled. I find that's that.
1281
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:18.360
But anyway, that's the only time I kind of got
1282
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:21.000
a joint part of the group. Was training those those
1283
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.199
people are working for me. That made me feel great, Hey,
1284
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:24.679
training them is in our confidence.
1285
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:24.800
Go.
1286
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:25.320
Yeah.
1287
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:27.719
A real moment for me growing up was I was
1288
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:29.199
in I wenton all boys school, so I was a
1289
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:31.599
bit old school British sort of stuff, and I was
1290
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.199
an Irish. We had an Irish biology teacher. We actually
1291
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:36.159
had him in the year ten before he split into specialties.
1292
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.039
Here was brutal man. His name is mister Nolan. He
1293
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.840
was a rugby coach as well, and I just I
1294
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:42.360
don't know what I did to chase him off, like
1295
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.320
I think, actually I know what I did to chase
1296
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.880
him off. There was this poor old lady called missus
1297
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:49.480
King was a lab assistant, and she made like all
1298
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.079
these different layers of all these different elements that floated
1299
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.639
in different places in water, you know, like thick in
1300
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:56.480
the water, heavy oil at the top, and it was
1301
00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:59.519
all color coded and beautiful. And then my dam as
1302
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.119
thought that if I tipped it to the side, it
1303
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:02.679
was like a magic trick. And I put it back off,
1304
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:05.679
we'd all go back together. And mister Nolan just shredded me.
1305
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:07.320
And I'm like, man, I thought I was supposed to
1306
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:08.880
go back, like it is the whole point of this
1307
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.880
stupid thing. He hated me from like day one. And
1308
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.119
I sat next to this really cool kid. He was
1309
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:15.719
from Labors and he was a border because it was
1310
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:17.960
a boarding school, well called Tom. I always say his
1311
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.199
last name He's a good dude, real good dude. And
1312
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:24.880
he was like totally totally unfazed by anything. And so
1313
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.199
mister Nolan's like your fat, you're lazy, this, you know whatever.
1314
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:30.559
It is like this water of a duck's back. Shit
1315
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:32.159
that would like make me wither, you know, because I
1316
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:33.920
had a little bit of like that. I wanted the
1317
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:36.880
people please, you know, and please a teacher. He was
1318
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.440
just fucking destroying this kid. And this kid was just
1319
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:41.159
sitting there like I don't get a flying fuck right
1320
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.360
like and just water of for ducks back. And I
1321
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.559
remember looking at him going like the whole class is
1322
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.559
kind of like trying to do their work, but trying
1323
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.679
to look at Tom see if he's like dying and
1324
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:51.760
just don't give a fuck. He just did not give
1325
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:53.440
a fuck. I don't know if it was growing up
1326
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.199
in labors and or something. And he played on the
1327
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:57.679
rugby team as a second rower, big like literally like
1328
00:56:57.840 --> 00:56:59.760
man boobs, you know, like kind of like not just
1329
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:03.320
mostly just like fucking chunks. So yeah, and just gut it,
1330
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:05.840
not give a fuck. And I remember thinking, you are
1331
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:09.159
the coolest dude I've ever seen, and I'm never going
1332
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.519
to give a fuck as much like I'm never going
1333
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.559
to get rich yours and style, but I'm also never
1334
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.559
going to try and give a fuck again, because that
1335
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:19.199
is the coolest thing to sit there with a grown
1336
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.679
adult just abusing the shitty you're saying the meanest shit
1337
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.760
he could think of. You didn't give a fuck, literally
1338
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.119
give a fuck this guy, this guy, I got a
1339
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:27.840
story about this dude. Right, So we had a religion
1340
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.920
exam in class. We had this old teacher. I'm gonna
1341
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:32.679
say these people's names because I'm going to know people
1342
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.440
that know people. But anyway, I had this old Italian cher.
1343
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.280
She was an Italian religion teacher. And if you went
1344
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:39.920
to a quinta see you and know this lady. In
1345
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.639
class exam, you just had normal class desk steady desks
1346
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:44.000
or whatever. You had to split them up to like
1347
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.760
a meter apart from everyone asen or all individual. So
1348
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:49.320
I'm in the second row from the back, and then
1349
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:51.440
this kid was the next to mean biology that I
1350
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:53.679
was just talking about. He's sitting behind me. And then
1351
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:55.960
I got my mate to the roatomy. And there's a
1352
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.159
window in this room and it looks out into the river.
1353
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.000
It's like kind of a quiteas is like on the
1354
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.559
river in the bay. And anyway, we start this religion
1355
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.119
exam and I'm looking through the pages, going, oh my god,
1356
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:09.079
what the fuck? How can I bluff all this shit?
1357
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:10.480
Because I went to church, I tried to sunk in
1358
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:14.000
and then Catholic stuff, and so I'm so I started
1359
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.039
working and I'm like, man, that sounds like fucking fire.
1360
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:18.199
You're like a bush fire, but it wasn't uncommon to
1361
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:20.800
be a burnoff and just waffed in the window, and
1362
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.280
it just sounds. It smells real close. So I sort
1363
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:27.000
of like look around and I see the greatest site
1364
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:29.679
you've ever seen in your life. Right, this kid has
1365
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:32.719
kicked his plastic chair back so it's resting against the wall.
1366
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.159
He's put his feet up on the desk, and he's
1367
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:39.559
rolled his religion exam into a tube and he's lit
1368
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:42.559
it and it's smoking out like a fucking cigar. Right,
1369
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:46.800
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? And like
1370
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.880
I'm looking at the teacher and she's just down minded
1371
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:50.840
her own business at the front, right, So I'm like,
1372
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:53.679
what the fuck are you doing? And then I like,
1373
00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:55.480
nun's the kid in my mate next to me. I'm like,
1374
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:57.320
trick that shit out. We looked back. He's like, what
1375
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.920
the fuck, and then like, Tom, what are you doing? Man,
1376
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.519
You're gonna get Boston. He's like he just looked like
1377
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:06.079
he looked at me. He took a puff of his exam,
1378
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:08.599
split it out, and goes, I don't give a fuck
1379
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:12.320
about religion. I was like, oh my god, right, I'm
1380
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.880
already like inhabed with this fucking dude's attitude. So this
1381
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:17.159
is just the coolest time, all right, buddy. So I
1382
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:19.039
sit back, I'm giggling the whole time, and I'm trying
1383
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:21.679
to do my fucking exam. And so this is like
1384
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.760
right before lunch, right, So he just like fucking walk
1385
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:26.559
out the door. We all plump our exams on the
1386
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:29.239
you know, she's like, pens down the lunch belt. You
1387
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:31.079
don't jumping on a desk cause you're going out the door.
1388
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:33.559
He just walks the fucking straight up. So I got
1389
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:36.679
all our friends and we're like, I was like, Tom, man,
1390
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:38.840
this guy's name. I'm like, he didn't give a fuck, right,
1391
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:40.280
he just is it. And we were all like killing
1392
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:42.880
ourselves laughing. There was a day off and then the
1393
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:44.679
exams are supposed to be marked. Them back and the
1394
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:47.199
next you know, the day after that. So we're like, dude,
1395
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:49.559
you're gonna get fucking expelled, Like what are you gonna do?
1396
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:52.079
It's like hunger, fuck fuck whatever. He gives a ship,
1397
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:55.719
you know, and so we're like dude, okay. So anyway,
1398
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:58.920
she's like handed out of the exams. Everybody's sitting there
1399
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.760
like could to pin drop. We're like waiting for this
1400
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:04.480
to get right. So this hit wes he's fucking exam
1401
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.400
and so she's like yeah, yeah, a yeah. Whenever I
1402
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.239
get to him, like all right, I couldn't I couldn't
1403
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:15.119
find your exam. And he's like what. She's like, no,
1404
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.119
I couldn't you know, did you? What did you do
1405
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:19.280
with your exam? My stuff? And everyone's like man, you
1406
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.960
get fucking smashed. And he's like, na I handed it
1407
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:26.679
in and she's like what oh, oh man, where is it?
1408
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.199
Like going through papers now, oh I can't find it.
1409
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:31.039
I can't find it. All right, listen, would you be
1410
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:35.039
happy with class average? And she's like the class average
1411
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:37.719
is like seventy eight? Would you be happy with seventy eight?
1412
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:41.559
And it's like fus, I'm smarter than these idiots, Like
1413
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:48.599
all right, class average plus ten percent, we're like, mother fuck.
1414
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:52.800
And he wasn't doing it for like a prayer. He
1415
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:55.360
wasn't doing it to get anything, any popularity anything. He's
1416
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.559
just was doing it because that was him, and he
1417
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:02.920
went on to do pretty good things. Crazy hey. Yeah. Yeah.
1418
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:05.920
But the ability to not give a fuck, whether that
1419
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:07.920
comes from being rich. You know, you got enough money
1420
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:09.480
you can just tell people to fuck off all the time.
1421
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:10.679
I've got it.
1422
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:12.920
I've got what it takes to like cockroach my way
1423
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:14.639
out of it if you guys badly. Yeah, I think
1424
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:17.119
it's just like the attitude. Hey, but it's just almost
1425
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:20.760
like yeah, fuck off. Yeah, it really is just like, yeah,
1426
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:22.440
what are you talking about?
1427
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:25.880
You know? Well, I just think you what would you know?
1428
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.039
Like you tell me it won't work? How do you
1429
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:29.440
know that?
1430
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.000
I found a very school. The school is the first
1431
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.639
place you see it. But I remember teachers, and I
1432
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:39.400
was reading the teacher before they even start talking that morning,
1433
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.840
walking in, I see about their shoulders, they're angry or whatever,
1434
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:45.719
and I was just looking at like, I don't want
1435
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.559
to be learning from this guy. He's not happy, he
1436
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:51.400
doesn't look like he's winning. He's not a winner. You
1437
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:53.559
know why don't I want to be listening to this guy.
1438
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:55.280
And then another guy would come in and.
1439
01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.800
He was very enthusiastic and he'd write roam across the
1440
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:01.199
board and he would.
1441
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.800
Say, today we learned wrong. Yeah, and he was just
1442
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:08.360
so excited about history. And I love the history class,
1443
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.679
you know, well in history. But like other teachers, I
1444
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:15.480
would just look at them and I'm like the messenger.
1445
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:19.280
They're obviously the messenger. They're trying to teach something they've learned,
1446
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.760
you know, through a textbook or whatever. They lost the
1447
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:23.400
passion or something along the way.
1448
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.440
Or whatever, and I'm like, going, I'm not listening to you.
1449
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.159
You know, it's like talking to someone on the phone. No,
1450
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:32.639
and you can hear from their voice they don't want
1451
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:34.840
to be on the other side of the phone. Yeah.
1452
01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:35.000
You know.
1453
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:38.679
It's almost like you go to the bar and you're
1454
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.280
talking to a girl and she's just talking to you,
1455
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:44.159
and she's been quite but she's not interested. You know,
1456
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:47.159
you can just feed it from them. I want to
1457
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:48.920
be here, but you don't want to be here. Yeah,
1458
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:50.559
I'm making an effort, but you know what I mean.
1459
01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:52.519
So I had at the same school there was like
1460
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:54.199
so there's a lot of teachers like that. They didn't
1461
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:55.079
give a fuck, And it's hard.
1462
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:56.679
I got a teaching degree and I've thought a bit,
1463
01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:59.960
and it's tough because you know, you finish one year,
1464
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.199
are with those kids who took them from there to there,
1465
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:04.719
and you just so they're your little dudes, and then
1466
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:06.920
you go back to the square one and you do
1467
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:08.840
that whole year again, and it's just like, well, how
1468
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:11.039
do you grow as a human, you know, if that's
1469
01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:12.880
what you're doing all day? And the kids are fun
1470
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.079
and there's a little you know, poor personalities and things.
1471
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:18.199
Jokes make them laugh and they love you know, they're
1472
01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:20.480
discovering roll dahal or shit, you know what. And it's
1473
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:23.360
just it's fucking awesome. But doing it year and years
1474
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:26.719
tough writing anything. Yeah. We had we had this old
1475
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.480
Christian brother called Brother Cleary. And here's an absolute legend.
1476
01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:32.639
Here's eighty six or something now, but he would know
1477
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:35.079
your name, like he would just learn your lame in
1478
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:37.440
year eight or he'd be like pull you over, have
1479
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:39.599
a little chat, just figure out what makes you tick
1480
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:41.880
and then just never forget you. He did this thing,
1481
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:45.519
Richard Raw. He's like a real good practitioner of working
1482
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:49.239
with boys teenagers specifically, I think teenage boys, and that
1483
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.039
can go either way because if you got shitty mates,
1484
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:53.880
Like the number one killer of kids under the age
1485
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:56.719
of I think twenty one or eighteen or something is accidents,
1486
01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.440
and the number one cause of accidents is other teenagers.
1487
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.639
So like a lot of what you become depends on
1488
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:04.280
the mates you're hanging out with, you and your teenager.
1489
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:08.440
And so in year ten, we did a school retreat. Right,
1490
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:11.119
it's in paper, pretty shitty, like you got to go,
1491
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:14.719
and usually it's about God and church and reflections and stuff.
1492
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:16.960
And anyway, he took a retreat. He invented this thing.
1493
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:19.679
You go out there and you do a little bit
1494
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:21.679
of that stuff, and then there's one night where it's
1495
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:24.960
like a guided meditation. He puts on like Gladiator soundtrack
1496
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.159
or Braveheart or probably he said he does Interstellar. Now,
1497
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:30.480
I went to Israel with this guy shot at Doco.
1498
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.320
He's cooled anyway, so he asked him every question. So
1499
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:34.719
I sort of got a little bit of his secret
1500
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.199
recipe thing and he plays it and you're sitting in
1501
01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:38.880
a room. Theres about one hundred and fifty boys. There's
1502
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:41.360
your bullies, there's your dummies, as your smarties, as your
1503
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.760
fast runners. You know, it's all the different kind of people.
1504
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.800
And he plays this music and he says, all right, now,
1505
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:48.519
you know, close your eyes, and he talks about what
1506
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:49.800
it's to be a man and to want to be
1507
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:51.920
a good human and to contribute to the world and
1508
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:55.039
get past it. It just does this guided meditation like that,
1509
01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:56.920
and then he's like, right, close your eyes, and all
1510
01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:58.760
the teachers come out and they put down like little
1511
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:02.400
envelopes in front of you, and then and he's like, right, okay,
1512
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:04.440
everyone just opened your eyes and you'll see an envelope,
1513
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:05.639
you know, in your lap or in front of you.
1514
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:08.119
You can open that up now. I just have a
1515
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.199
bit of a choir read. So you open it up
1516
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:13.760
and you're pull them out, just like letters, tons of letters.
1517
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.679
And he's gone around for the whole year and collected
1518
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:18.840
letters from your friends and your family and your loved
1519
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.960
ones and just said, would you mind writing a little
1520
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:24.320
bit about your boy, you know, write about how you
1521
01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:27.199
truly feel. And the kid's like there was not a
1522
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:29.199
dry eye in the room, Like every kid is sobbing
1523
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:32.280
because the dad might have never said, son, I'm actually
1524
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:33.960
quite proud of you, you know, I know I don't
1525
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:35.920
show it at times, but and it was just like
1526
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:38.800
it's like fucking tears, man. This like whole thing was
1527
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.679
this guy, brother Cleary, Your brother Cleary. He's a legend
1528
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.159
at a quietas er. Yeah, he's like he was eighty six,
1529
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.440
eighty seven, he's David, you know, sort of that sort
1530
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.599
of age, and he's still his idea. Yeah yeah, yeah.
1531
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:52.760
He got it from Richard raw like you know, guided
1532
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:54.679
meditation stuff, but he's always tweaked it and put his
1533
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:56.960
own spin on it, and he's just an absolute superstar.
1534
01:05:57.639 --> 01:06:00.400
But it changes the trajectory of the whole life tends
1535
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.760
when everyone's starting to play out, because year nine, year tens,
1536
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.000
when you go nuts and you're getting a bit sick
1537
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:06.840
of school, you're doing the same fourth subjects plus a
1538
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:10.480
little lectures. And that really fixed all the issues. Every
1539
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:13.079
single kid came back, you know, and we were just
1540
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:15.719
one big cohort after that, Like there's the odd couple
1541
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.440
of nutcases, but for the most part, everybody was together,
1542
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:20.159
you know, our friends with It was like forty people
1543
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:22.840
strong playing handborne shit like that. So and it was
1544
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.400
just because of this one night this guy did this
1545
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:28.480
one thing connected with you, you know, and it was
1546
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:31.679
fucking awesome. But yeah, if you can connect with anybody
1547
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:34.199
when you're talking story, I think that's using language to
1548
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.280
connect something to somebody.
1549
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:40.239
Or like, like, I can see myself changing already. I'm
1550
01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:44.039
only edit four years, but I'm getting a massive following,
1551
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.960
especially in Western Australia. Tha's that's where you do your
1552
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.199
hard work. Yeah, that's where That's where I started here.
1553
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:54.159
But I think I can see my stories sort of changing.
1554
01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:57.440
I started off just making people laugh and it was
1555
01:06:57.559 --> 01:06:59.719
very self deprecating. I'm at the bottom of all the
1556
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:02.119
joy I like that, you know, it's easy for me
1557
01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:05.559
just to tell a story where something stupid happens. They're
1558
01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:08.199
all laughing through the story. But I can already feel
1559
01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:10.559
myself getting bored of that. And then I sort of
1560
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:13.559
leaning into how racism can bring you together. So I
1561
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:16.559
was walking that line and everybody was loving the stories
1562
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:18.519
because it was like how it can bring you together,
1563
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:21.119
you know. And then I talked a great story, one
1564
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:23.400
of my favorite stories, about a group of Aboriginal kids
1565
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.119
that I met in Portugusta that they're on a pontoon
1566
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:28.079
and I'm going to record that.
1567
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:28.599
I think that.
1568
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:30.000
I think that's one of the first ones I'm going
1569
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:32.079
to release that I'm really happy with. And it took
1570
01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:33.159
me by the time to work it out.
1571
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:34.639
There was a lot of awkwardness in the crowd and
1572
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:37.920
I'd say, yeah, there's just five Aboriginal kids. And then
1573
01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:39.639
there was some actor and Sydney came to me and
1574
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:41.880
he's like, I saw your show and loved it, but
1575
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.079
that that did you need to say Indigenous not Aboriginal?
1576
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:46.760
And I was like, oh, my eccentrics.
1577
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:48.800
Last night I did the show in front of five
1578
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:51.679
Aboriginal people and they absolutely loved it. And they never
1579
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:55.000
told me change it. You know, it's such a nice story. Yeah,
1580
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:56.760
but the very first time I did is the big
1581
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.599
room in the part and the amount of original guys.
1582
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:03.760
It's about the original and Irish Irish and Irish heritage
1583
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:06.280
that I came across the group that had Irish heritage
1584
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:07.840
and I was like what And I started telling me
1585
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:11.280
about their great great grandfathers and the story you'll see
1586
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:13.920
you're right on Whoa and all the comedians. The minute
1587
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:16.119
I did in one of the comedians was like, Ronnie,
1588
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:18.399
how's this story? And it was the first time I
1589
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:21.079
just came out of my normal I was just kind
1590
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:23.039
of going through the motions. I was like, make them laugh,
1591
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:25.840
thanks very much for coming. And then I just started
1592
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:28.439
exploring that story, and then and then the story with
1593
01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:31.800
an Indian bloke. I'm in a Manchester But then this
1594
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.920
year I've just added a nether layer and it's amazing
1595
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:38.560
what we talked about earlier, and I'm talking about community
1596
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:41.920
and the lack of community and the lack of people
1597
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.439
talking to each other. And one of the stories that
1598
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:48.520
I talked about was when I went to Edinburgh. I said,
1599
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:51.279
the first day I was there, my phone went dead.
1600
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:54.399
I actually started this off by going, guys, I'm going
1601
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.279
to change the rhythm of the show right now. I'm
1602
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:58.920
going to change the gears. But you'll remember this tomorrow
1603
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:01.800
more than nineteen else I've said tonight, you know, And
1604
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.880
I said, when I was in Edinburgh, first day I
1605
01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:07.359
was there, I had to go and find a bank machine,
1606
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:09.560
had to get money out. My phone was dead. I
1607
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:11.880
couldn't find Google Maps, so I stopped someone on the
1608
01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:14.199
street to ask them where the bank machine was. They
1609
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:17.039
gave me directions, and when I was walking away from them,
1610
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:20.600
I realized, when's the last time I asked someone for directions,
1611
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.560
I couldn't even remember. Do you know how many more
1612
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.800
people I asked for directions for the bank machine? I
1613
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:29.439
said nearly forty more people. It took me two hours
1614
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.840
to get to that bank machine. Two people told me
1615
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:33.920
great stories. One of the stories ended up into the
1616
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:37.199
show in Edinburgh. A lot of comedians come to Edinburgh
1617
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:40.039
and you need a big social media following. You need
1618
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.920
to be on the TV and BBC or Australian television
1619
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:46.119
to get any bit of a crowd come to your show.
1620
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:49.279
But someone told me, if you're really good at handing
1621
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:53.880
out flyers, you'll do well. So a lot of comedians
1622
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:57.000
don't like handing out flyers. They hire someone paying ten
1623
01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:00.680
pounds an hour to handout flyers. I said, no, no,
1624
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:03.600
I'm going to enjoy handing out flyers more than actually
1625
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:04.199
doing the show.
1626
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:04.640
Yeah.
1627
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:08.199
So I became the best at handing out the flyers. Yeah,
1628
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:11.159
and I handed out over twelve thousand flowers in Edinburgh,
1629
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:13.359
or the average guy would hand out maybe a thousand
1630
01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:16.359
if he's lucky. Right, So packing up my show every
1631
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:20.119
single day in Edinburgh like one hundred odd people, and
1632
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:22.920
one of the last days I was there, I met
1633
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:25.279
Jim on on he was in the same building and
1634
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:27.640
we love him in Australia. He met me in the
1635
01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:31.000
green room and he walked in and three years previously,
1636
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:32.880
I just was checking out Edinburgh and I went to
1637
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.039
see him twice and I was like, look at this guy.
1638
01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:38.359
This guy's And then in the green room last day,
1639
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:40.920
one of my last weekends there, he walked in and goes, oh,
1640
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:41.319
how's it going.
1641
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:42.640
My name's Jim you're working here.
1642
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:44.600
And I goes, oh, yeah, my name is Ronnie and
1643
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.439
he went, oh you you're a comedian from Irland. I goes, yeah, yeah,
1644
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:49.439
and he goes when he was asking a few questions
1645
01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:51.760
and he goes, hey, you got some good reviews. No,
1646
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:54.239
I've seen your reviews outside and he said that time's
1647
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:56.720
your show and I said it's on at seven and
1648
01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:58.239
he said I'm going to come to see your show
1649
01:10:58.319 --> 01:10:58.800
and I was like what.
1650
01:10:59.359 --> 01:10:59.960
I was like, all right.
1651
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:02.079
So he went to see the show and then another
1652
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:04.560
few comedians came in to see it as well. Irish
1653
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.279
comedians actually had never even heard of me. So I
1654
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:09.199
started over in Australia, you know stories, and he was
1655
01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:11.000
sitting at the back of the room. The room was packed,
1656
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:13.560
and I put my hand up at the start, I goes, oh, guys,
1657
01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:16.880
just for a bit of market research. I goes, not
1658
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:19.119
very big on social media. No one really knows me.
1659
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:21.960
I says, but who here today did I meet? From
1660
01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.640
handing down the flyer IK, ninety percent of the room
1661
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:27.359
put their hands there and Jim and just started roaring.
1662
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:28.560
Laugh in the back of the room because the dinner
1663
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:30.600
comedians of what the hell the go this guy? And
1664
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:32.600
next thing, I goes, Then there was a small group
1665
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:36.039
over to the left and I said, guys, you didn't
1666
01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:38.199
put your hand up. How did you hear about the show?
1667
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:41.720
And this guy goes, oh, well, about a month ago,
1668
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:44.359
he said, you came up to me and asked me
1669
01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:47.520
for directions of a bank machine. And he said, we
1670
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:49.840
saw your poster and we said we come out and
1671
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:52.239
support you. By geez, thanks very much. And there was
1672
01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.600
another crowd on this side of the room and he goes, guys,
1673
01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:55.960
you didn't put up your hand. How did you hear
1674
01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:58.600
about the show? And he been quiet and he goes, well,
1675
01:11:58.640 --> 01:11:59.920
he said that. He said, it's a bit strange.
1676
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.600
He said, he said, about a month ago, you also
1677
01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:06.079
asked me for directions of that machine, and the whole
1678
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:07.039
crowds to the laughing.
1679
01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:09.880
Yeah. But then what I said to the audience as
1680
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:12.920
I said, I said, I said, guys, it's sometimes all
1681
01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:14.880
you have to do is say hello, where are you from?
1682
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:17.600
And I said, you can start the whole conversation with people.
1683
01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:19.920
And I said, because of these phones, we don't do it.
1684
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:22.600
And then I turned around to the audience and this
1685
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:24.399
is what I'm going to do now. And I'm going
1686
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:28.000
to book the Astor Theater. That's what I'm just inquirying
1687
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:30.119
about it now and I'm going to book that. And
1688
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:32.359
I said to the audience. I turned around to him
1689
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:34.199
and I say, this is what I was doing every night.
1690
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:36.239
I said to the people, I said, now, growing up
1691
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:38.479
in Ireland, I was Catholic. And her mom used, bring
1692
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:40.439
us the church onto the roll twelve and she says,
1693
01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:41.800
up to you, if you want to keep going, I
1694
01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:43.760
was the last one. She was delighted and I said, no,
1695
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:45.920
I don't want to go anymore. She was like, oh,
1696
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:46.520
thank God for that.
1697
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:49.800
But in the church, me, my brothers, we would say
1698
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:51.800
halfway through the priest would say peace be with you.
1699
01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:53.840
So you have to turn on and shake other people's
1700
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:55.960
hands now. But me and my brother's just getting in
1701
01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:57.920
trouble because we have a game how many more hands
1702
01:12:57.960 --> 01:12:59.920
we could shay? We used to that, so we was
1703
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:03.119
jump over our mom be slapping us and pulling us backs.
1704
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:04.039
You're embarrassing me.
1705
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:06.600
So then I turned on to the crowd. And so tonight, guys,
1706
01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:09.199
we're all sitting next to each other. We all came
1707
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:11.840
in the same door. We're all laughing together. I guarantee
1708
01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:13.680
if some of you haven't even made eye contact with
1709
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.479
each other tonight, what we're gonna do right now, it's
1710
01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:18.319
turn around to the person next to you and say hello.
1711
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:20.520
Turn around to the person next to you and say hello,
1712
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:21.359
and shake their hands.
1713
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:22.119
Say this pump.
1714
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:23.880
If you don't to shake their hand, ask them where
1715
01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:26.600
they're from, and if the whole room lights up. And
1716
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:28.720
next thing, I'm like, how good does that feel?
1717
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:29.640
That's a sick idea.
1718
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:32.119
Next day, I turn around then and I'm doing that now.
1719
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:34.479
I've been doing it now since Edinburgh, every night. And
1720
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:37.359
now I turn around and I go, all right, guys, now,
1721
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:40.520
take your clothes off, let's have an RG. The next
1722
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:42.000
time I go. It's not a dead talk, it's a
1723
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:44.880
comedy show. I rip back into a story and then
1724
01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:47.199
I have a nether very It's a true story that
1725
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:50.359
happened down in Mandra years ago, and I need to
1726
01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:52.039
fix it up now to put it together. I know
1727
01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:53.800
how I'm going to do it now together. But it's
1728
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:56.520
just a nice good feeling in the middle of the show.
1729
01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:59.039
Yeah, but this is the one. Didn't that just see,
1730
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:01.079
I have a good body here in party. He's got
1731
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.439
you know, Andrew Woolf. Yeah, woofy woy. Yeah.
1732
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:06.119
Yeah, so he watches me a good witch. You know,
1733
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:06.920
I'm good friends with him.
1734
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:08.680
Yes, but he says to me, he was like, oh, man,
1735
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:11.840
so your style of just telling the stories, because last
1736
01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:14.880
year in part I was just trying new stuff and
1737
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:16.680
I had big crowds and I probably shouldn't have done
1738
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:17.760
it because they all bought a ticket.
1739
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:20.560
They were making it work. Each story was funny. But
1740
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:23.239
I like writing down stage and I was saying to work.
1741
01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:24.840
It was like, I got a new story. I got
1742
01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:27.560
a new story. He was like, you got there really stories.
1743
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.760
But he's brilliant Woolfy. But I was up and this
1744
01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:33.159
was the story I did that night in pert this year,
1745
01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:36.039
years ago. It was a Manajra shopping center, and I
1746
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:39.079
was selling vegetable shoppers and one of them was on
1747
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:41.039
TV and it was really hot. Everybody was coming up
1748
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:42.600
and buying it. And I used to do one for
1749
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:46.119
fifty dollars and one one TV was like one hundred bucks.
1750
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:47.920
So I was doing for fifty, and then I would
1751
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:50.600
do two for ninety. And then I was just getting
1752
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:52.399
bored in the shops and my whole thing was doing
1753
01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.960
jokes five potatoes, Mickey, Joey, Harry, Frankie and Tommy. Let
1754
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:57.920
me show you how to peel Tommy. Oh, Tommy's just
1755
01:14:58.000 --> 01:14:59.960
gone through divorce. Frankie just told me, anybody give you
1756
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:03.119
vegetables personalities. So I was always kind of doing the comedy,
1757
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:05.920
even years ago. A little bit big crowd would come around,
1758
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:08.760
and then I was there, I'm doing one for fifty,
1759
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.000
but if you can make a friend in the crowd,
1760
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:14.239
I'll do two for ninety, right, and we get it
1761
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:16.159
for forty five and two women would just look at
1762
01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:18.840
each other and go, oh, hello, we're together, and they'd
1763
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:21.119
give you and I go, you're together. What's that lady's name?
1764
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:23.359
And they would go, what, like, what's that lady's name?
1765
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:26.880
Your friends, and I goes going away over there now
1766
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:29.279
and find out each other's names, and you're trying to
1767
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:30.760
trick me, And they'd come back, and then she'd come
1768
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:32.279
back with the money and they'd be looking at a
1769
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:35.000
crazy Irish guy and they go, I'm Mary, she's Susanne,
1770
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:37.199
and they'd walk and I go, and what else do
1771
01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:39.520
you know about each other? Because you're not friends, you
1772
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:42.520
just you just changed each other's names. You're taking advantage
1773
01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:44.000
of me, I says, And I'm giving you to go
1774
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.000
over there now and try and find out a little
1775
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:46.359
bit more.
1776
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:48.279
Where's Mary from Suzanne?
1777
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:48.560
From her?
1778
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:50.960
You married to your family? Come on, make an effort now.
1779
01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:54.199
And I was doing this for fun, for my own entertainment,
1780
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:57.079
like a social experiment with Australian. So I was doing
1781
01:15:57.119 --> 01:15:59.960
the town on Mandra all week. I was sending people.
1782
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:02.880
Two blokes would come up and yeah, I work together.
1783
01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:04.520
I guess what's his name? Or I don't know. So
1784
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:07.439
I was like going away over there. So anyway, five
1785
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.039
years later, I was back down in Mandra and I
1786
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:11.760
was doing these knives and I was down there and
1787
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.039
now I was getting the crowd around and I was
1788
01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:16.279
session up in the morning and this guy was walking.
1789
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.399
Through and he saw me. He goes, Hi, is your
1790
01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:19.079
name Ronnie?
1791
01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:22.640
I goes, Yeah, he goes here years ago, I goes,
1792
01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:24.680
I was and I was just thinking straight away, oh god,
1793
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:27.319
it's broken or did I still want to tell?
1794
01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:29.199
I was like, what happened to myself? To this guy
1795
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:31.119
there now? And he was like, he just walked away
1796
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.079
from me. He came back with a bloke a few
1797
01:16:33.159 --> 01:16:35.880
hours later and he said, see this guy, he's my
1798
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:38.800
best buddy, right and awful I know, right, and he
1799
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:41.640
was like, yeah, he goes. I came to Mandra and
1800
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:43.800
he said, I moved up. He said, I moved into
1801
01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:45.720
Mandra and he said I didn't know that many people.
1802
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.199
He says, and because of you, and he said, make
1803
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:50.159
a friend. We met each other and he said, no,
1804
01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:52.319
we're friends from only four or five years now. He said.
1805
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.720
We go fishing together every Sunday. We were bored with
1806
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.880
Tinny and I was a class all week long. People
1807
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:03.079
were coming in give me chocolates, box liqued biscuits, flowers.
1808
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:05.760
The one moment said I came up from Denmark. She said,
1809
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:07.920
I've been coming to Mandra shopping, start of getting my milk,
1810
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:11.239
geting my groceries. For years, I didn't know anyone in Mandra.
1811
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:11.720
She said.
1812
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:13.800
Last time my friends they were down south, my sister
1813
01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:15.880
would meet him up and she goes, I met my
1814
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:18.399
best friend because of you, she says. And I joined
1815
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:21.640
a group of women that we all play cards together
1816
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:24.000
on the weekend. I made all week people.
1817
01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:24.199
Are coming up.
1818
01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:26.079
So then I was doing national the show on part
1819
01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:28.479
and I was explained to people and I said, some
1820
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:30.720
of you go for a drink, say hello to the
1821
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:32.520
person that you saw at the show, and you can
1822
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:35.000
say Jesus, remember that story he was talking about. And
1823
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:36.359
then I go and then I just finished up and
1824
01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:36.920
goes guice.
1825
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:39.319
After this, I'm going to put a big show on
1826
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:41.800
and ask their teater and you're all welcome to Seoan.
1827
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:43.279
I'm going to try and do a new hour show
1828
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.079
and we're all came along, and the whole crowd was like,
1829
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:48.439
going is the show? Because then I could see like
1830
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.880
and for me, then that's my whole style changing. And
1831
01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:53.439
didn't I didn't want to get into like a kind
1832
01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:56.239
of a kind of Jesus here. Yeah, I was actually saying.
1833
01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:58.439
I was actually thinking to today, maybe the comedy is
1834
01:17:58.520 --> 01:17:59.479
just a doorway I.
1835
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:02.880
Mean one of the Yeah, you'd be the coolest priest
1836
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:05.159
there is, right because like that's how I mean, there
1837
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:07.359
are all those Catholic tricks that they pulled. That's getting
1838
01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:09.640
you an hour. That's an hour a Catholic thing. And
1839
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:11.560
they're like, you're looking forward to the PCEP with you
1840
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:13.239
because you can funny like look you mate the eye
1841
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:16.520
they get, you know, and community, you know, you go
1842
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:19.840
to churches, I think because and also like I basically
1843
01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:22.000
went just I could play chasy afterwards. You know, mom
1844
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:23.359
and dad have a cup of tea with someone and
1845
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:25.239
I'm all, the kids get to play chasy for like
1846
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:27.960
half an hour. And but how many times did those
1847
01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:30.439
parents go, hey, look, suddy night, what are you doing?
1848
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:31.800
You want to come back to our place? You know,
1849
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:33.399
as the kids can watch a movie with a lot
1850
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:36.359
of pizza. You know, we made our best friends doing that,
1851
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:38.920
you know, and I see the benefit of it. I
1852
01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:41.520
don't want to really listen to Bible stories to do it.
1853
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:43.359
But that was a small price to pay to have
1854
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:45.960
a whole shitload of friends. You know. Yeah, I kind
1855
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:47.560
of get it. That was a big thing.
1856
01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:50.279
It's a big I like a lot of the parent
1857
01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:52.399
but It's not just a lot of good stories there.
1858
01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:54.399
You can learn stuff from it, but.
1859
01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:57.159
I think a particularly pertinent one for us. Right, I've
1860
01:18:57.159 --> 01:18:59.680
got a theory about Noah's ark. Yeah, this is why.
1861
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:01.239
One of the things I love about you is I
1862
01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:03.319
think we've got the same sort of outlook on this all. Right,
1863
01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:06.199
So Noah's ark, you know the story, What about if
1864
01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:08.720
that was just a way to communicate this thing that
1865
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:12.279
we're doing here where Like he had an idea, right,
1866
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:14.159
So back in the day, they didn't know about brains,
1867
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:16.680
right then, no ideas could just pop into your brain
1868
01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:19.640
based on experiences and shit. So he thought God gave
1869
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:22.319
you an idea, right, he said, God fucking told me
1870
01:19:22.439 --> 01:19:24.600
to make an arc. Noah committed to it. Everyone told
1871
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:26.359
he was an idiot. Everyone in the village laughed at
1872
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:27.760
his ass. But He's like, no, no, no, I want
1873
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:29.640
to do this one thing, and he did it. Turns
1874
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:32.479
out that thing was important at some point in time,
1875
01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:34.920
and he'd committed to it, and all of a sudden,
1876
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:36.800
everyone gets washed away and Noah's the guy and his
1877
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.119
animals and his friends. You know, it was an impossible task,
1878
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.439
but he committed to it, saw it through, and it
1879
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:45.239
suddenly became important. And so that's kind of like a
1880
01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:48.560
way that these Bible people who wrote it whatever communicating.
1881
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:50.560
If you have an idea, fucking stick with it. If
1882
01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:52.600
people laugh at you and throw rock, tell you an idiot,
1883
01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:56.479
fucking keep going because maybe, just maybe that idea is
1884
01:19:56.920 --> 01:19:59.680
fucking important at some point. Even if it's not, you've
1885
01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:02.199
learned from the process. You know, this guy could just
1886
01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:05.079
become like nas arcs salesman or something like that and
1887
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:07.840
start selling arcs. But like, you know, either way, so
1888
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:10.399
I think about that story way more than I should.
1889
01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:14.079
People tell me this is a bad idea, laughing, you're
1890
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:15.920
wasting your time. You should just get a job with
1891
01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:20.119
one word like dentist or something that people understand, and
1892
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:22.520
you know, money, get a house and that's it. But nah,
1893
01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:24.640
fuck it building an ARC here. You know, I've got
1894
01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:26.600
shit to do, and it's slow going and it's a
1895
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:29.399
lot of experiment. It's an unusual path. But you've got
1896
01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:31.880
to enjoy the process, and you know, it's one day
1897
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:34.680
it might just be awesome thinking about it, as well
1898
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:38.279
as like, not even that one day it might be awesome,
1899
01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:42.079
it's awesome right now because if you enjoy the process, right,
1900
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:44.479
because that sounds like a bit of a ciche knowing
1901
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:47.439
on the journey and yeah, but it's true. It's true,
1902
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:50.800
so true because if like, if you set goals and
1903
01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:53.560
you fall short of those goals, you're going to get depression.
1904
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:55.199
Like we made a lot of comedians and I think,
1905
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:57.119
you know, they're a bit sad and depressed and they
1906
01:20:57.159 --> 01:20:59.399
really thought they were going to hit it something like that.
1907
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:02.039
But if you restructure that and just go this is
1908
01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:04.800
a learning journey and the process is the bit you enjoy,
1909
01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:07.199
I think you become a bit like you know, you
1910
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:10.199
guys like Kirbe Bryant, I enjoyed the process. When you
1911
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:12.159
won the championship, it was like just sad it was out.
1912
01:21:12.199 --> 01:21:14.880
But he couldn't play basketball anymore. You know, yeah, give
1913
01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:16.439
a fuck about winning the champions But I think he
1914
01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:18.399
was afraid. He was glad he didn't lose, but he
1915
01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:20.279
just was like fuck it. You know. I saw my
1916
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:22.359
mindset change a few years ago, Like when I was
1917
01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:24.560
on about money and savings and stuff like that, I know,
1918
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:26.840
I'm just thinking money is just a bit of fuel
1919
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:29.880
for me to have a bit of an adventure. Years ago,
1920
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:31.800
I was thinking, no, I need X amount for this
1921
01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:33.760
to be free blah blah. And then I was like
1922
01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:36.560
watching that trap and I could see other people that
1923
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:40.079
fell into that, and I was like going, no, no, no, no, no,
1924
01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:43.680
this is very exciting, and I just keep doing what
1925
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:45.880
you're doing. See where you end up, because.
1926
01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:48.399
You do need fuel, adding a lot of our artistic
1927
01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:51.600
people like and there's something you want to do creative
1928
01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:54.319
waye you do realize a little bit of fuel is
1929
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:56.800
important just to keep your head above the water. You know,
1930
01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:00.840
have you ever hit rock bottom? Close there? Yeah, very close? Yeah,
1931
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:03.000
a few times. I probably have this problem. Someone said
1932
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.960
to me years ago sand castle syndrome, which is like
1933
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:08.880
making a castle and shifting sense and then just kind
1934
01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:12.840
of doing it on purpose and kicking it out, kicking
1935
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:14.600
it over, so I have to do it again. But
1936
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:16.239
the buzz are doing it. It's probably some sort of
1937
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:18.479
a gambling thing. Well I'm not a gambler. I know,
1938
01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:21.079
probably will't, just to see if he can. I've met
1939
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:23.159
fellas over the years. I met one guy years ago
1940
01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:25.680
and he was like a millionaire five times over, and
1941
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:27.960
he didn't realize he was doing it, but I could
1942
01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:29.760
see I didn't know years ago that's what he was,
1943
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:31.640
but it's almost like a kind of a gambling with
1944
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.159
the comedy sometimes and even when I got into the comedy,
1945
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:37.119
and the sales or anything I've ever done is a
1946
01:22:37.239 --> 01:22:41.279
little bit of risk. I need some sort of a risk, yeah,
1947
01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:45.279
entertaining to make it to go, you know, I like
1948
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:46.199
a little deadline.
1949
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:47.920
Can I do ten grand? There?
1950
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:51.039
With this brand new idea of a product? And to
1951
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:54.680
now remember years ago, three years ago, I didn't do
1952
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:57.399
the Royal Show for years, and I was like, I
1953
01:22:57.439 --> 01:22:59.760
wonder're going to make a product to make me ten
1954
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.279
great and just ten grand out of the blue, just
1955
01:23:02.319 --> 01:23:05.479
one product. And I had an idea. It was the
1956
01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:09.800
clothes hanger for holding clothes hangers. And I was named Columbia.
1957
01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:13.319
And I saw a woman selling something similar, but she
1958
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:15.560
made it out of plastic. So I went off and
1959
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.359
found a supplier and port of iron bar, small little
1960
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:22.119
five melt ten milt iron bar, and I made a
1961
01:23:22.199 --> 01:23:25.199
jig in the backyard where I was renting. With these
1962
01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:28.239
big bolts. I made my own jink for turning around
1963
01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:30.640
and making kind of a spring and then i'd straight
1964
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:32.960
in the spring and whack it with a hammer. And
1965
01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.600
I was trying to do it under two minutes, So
1966
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:38.079
then my arms were getting the massive mett. It was
1967
01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:41.359
like a blacksmith. And I made all these rings for
1968
01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:45.399
hanging clothes to make your clothes more room. You just
1969
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:48.960
drop it down and you fit more clothes. But anyway,
1970
01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:51.239
I started making, then I spray painted them. Then I
1971
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:53.800
went off on that signage made and I got into
1972
01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:56.159
the Perk Royal Show and I used to do years
1973
01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:57.920
ago with different products, you know, but this was just
1974
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.479
the kind of like, can I do this one week?
1975
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:03.000
Got all the bears, built everything in one week, gone
1976
01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:05.359
into the Pork Show and I made about twelve grand.
1977
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:09.600
Yeah, from just an idea job. That's the satisfaction. And
1978
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:12.159
then someone said, oh but can you can you turn
1979
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:13.039
it into a product? Now?
1980
01:24:13.119 --> 01:24:15.159
Can you sell it online with a video? But I
1981
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:17.159
lost interest. I was just like I just want to
1982
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:19.399
see if I could do it. And then the minute
1983
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:21.680
I did it, I was like, oh, that's done. But
1984
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:23.880
if I come to you, I could have done them
1985
01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:26.600
all and stuff, but like, what's next? And then the
1986
01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:29.960
comedy popped up with the Perk Fringe with the COVID
1987
01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:33.039
people international acts, and I was like, oh, they're looking
1988
01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:35.079
for acts because I was driving up to the city
1989
01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:37.159
doing this gong show for three minutes.
1990
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:39.399
Oh yeah, I remember that. Is that was Jimmy? Was
1991
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:40.199
that Jimmy doing that?
1992
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:43.760
No, I don't know. Did the main Jimmy Krat No,
1993
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.439
I don't I don't know. I don't know, but the
1994
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:47.840
main guy was doing it. But I didn't like it
1995
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:49.119
because you go all the way to the sea do
1996
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:51.520
three minutes, and it's almost like they're making fun of
1997
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:54.079
these open micers. Yeah, it was a bit nasty, but
1998
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:55.800
me and the guy that was running.
1999
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:57.399
Yeah, there's a bit of a fame of that. Yeah,
2000
01:24:57.399 --> 01:24:59.880
Canadians imperfectly. Yeah, it was. It was a bit nasty.
2001
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:01.680
The last time I did it, I was on stage
2002
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:03.279
and that's the last time I did that club. Actually,
2003
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:04.720
I just walked down and I was like, going.
2004
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:06.520
Do you know what, because I could see all nervous
2005
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:08.319
dater guys in the back of room are and all
2006
01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:11.000
these new fellas they are taking all week, all month,
2007
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:13.600
like all these aspirations, and this guy doing on stage
2008
01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:15.800
is just mocking them for the entertainment of the club,
2009
01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:18.479
and the man is charging forty bucks for people coming up.
2010
01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:20.439
So then I turned around on stage, I walked down
2011
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:21.159
and goes, do.
2012
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:24.399
You know what, guys, I tell you what. It takes
2013
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:26.720
balls to come up here and have a go off
2014
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:29.680
this because comedians at the back of the room they're nervous.
2015
01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:32.800
I'm practicing their stuff all week and I'm coming up
2016
01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:36.079
here being mocked. You know, I said, would you have
2017
01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:38.039
the balls to give those people at the back of
2018
01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:40.560
the room. They're a round of applause, they are clapping,
2019
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:42.800
And then I just did myself and I was like,
2020
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:45.000
looking at your man washing the gown. Yeah, yeah, he'd
2021
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:46.880
set them up. The thing about it is, mate, it's like,
2022
01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:49.399
look what I'm doing now. The perk fringe air that
2023
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:53.119
comedy club and sold out every show. The biggest ticket
2024
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:55.960
sellers at this say, because you do your own thing,
2025
01:25:56.199 --> 01:25:59.000
lean into your own thing and don't Yeah, I don't
2026
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:01.920
knock someone's confidence. I don't. I don't like it. You know,
2027
01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:03.800
you never know, like what house the car is that
2028
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:05.840
dude's built. You know, he could be this could be
2029
01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:08.279
his last thing he's ever gonna try. He's like, yeah it.
2030
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:10.439
And then the guy you gotta encourage, and then the
2031
01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:12.880
guy that knocks them and hits the gun. One night
2032
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:15.960
he jumped up and he jumped up and they had
2033
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:20.960
to do all five minutes each and he bombed so hard. Yeah,
2034
01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:23.640
And I was like, I'm not happy sometimes like watching
2035
01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:26.800
someone fail. But I was just like that feeling.
2036
01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:28.760
And then outside he was outside, he was doing circus
2037
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:31.720
outside smoking a cigarette and I walked up and I goes, no,
2038
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.600
you did good, you did good. Hey, you killed the way.
2039
01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:38.760
I was just like, mate, you know, he sabotaged himself
2040
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:41.479
because he kept knocking. If you don't like him, Holy
2041
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:42.439
yellow player in the air.
2042
01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:46.840
But like, that's that's bullying. It's like on stage bullying.
2043
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:49.039
It is, so he gets a bit of a boss offer.
2044
01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:50.840
But the thing about it is is if that's the
2045
01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:52.600
club and that's meant to be on the main clubs,
2046
01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:55.760
in part, they should be encouraging young fellus to come
2047
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:57.640
in there and have to go. Some of these guys
2048
01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:00.520
are so nervous and their confidence is being built up
2049
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:02.119
better family to go and have a bit of a
2050
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:05.000
goal and the rationing or stuff and get the three minutes.
2051
01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:06.880
And some of them are coming from mandra are coming
2052
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:09.159
down from Jundalab and then they go on and they
2053
01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:11.399
get knocked off stage in the men because this guy's.
2054
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:14.079
He's like oh give it up, you're not good. Yeah.
2055
01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:16.319
Maybe he's watching that Tawny Hinchcliff or something.
2056
01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:19.479
Yeah, and they just I don't they get Hey, I
2057
01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:22.800
think the encouragement is the best encouragement will make. Yeah,
2058
01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:26.520
it's very short sighted because they're discouraging other comedians from
2059
01:27:27.159 --> 01:27:30.920
doing comedy when really a rising tide would lift all ships.
2060
01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:33.840
You know, if there was more comedians putting on quality shows,
2061
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:37.119
working together, more people can go out and start to
2062
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:41.039
enjoy comedy, there'd be a biggest scene and everyone's doing better. Yeah, exactly.
2063
01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:43.239
But by discouraging them in same in the film industry,
2064
01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:45.960
and probably a feeder in the music industry. I say
2065
01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.920
as well, Like by discouraging and talking down and talking
2066
01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:52.359
shit about people, it's not helping. Like, bring them into
2067
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:54.239
your band, give them a go. If they're ship, I
2068
01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:57.119
can teach them and I'll get better and you'll go better.
2069
01:27:57.720 --> 01:27:59.640
And it just needs to be you know, there was
2070
01:27:59.640 --> 01:28:02.239
a period with Perth, especially especially where we're sitting right now,
2071
01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:05.439
Freeman was like hallowed ground for live music. Yeah, there's
2072
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:07.640
so many fucking bands came out of here, and one
2073
01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:11.640
like Triple J. You know, battle the band competitions and
2074
01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:14.760
and a CDC you know, things like that, and this
2075
01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:17.000
has a reputation between a rockdown and now where's the
2076
01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:19.960
fucking music? You know, what is going on with Why
2077
01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:22.920
are people trying it? Why are people rallying together to
2078
01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:24.600
create this thing? Yeah? That's that.
2079
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:27.439
That's that's center. Like a wolf there Andrew Wolf like,
2080
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:29.119
you know, just like I see a few blocks that
2081
01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:31.000
I like that. I would say, I have a good
2082
01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:33.359
attitude and they see the big picture of things and
2083
01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:36.239
out with them. Yeah, I just got man, just do
2084
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:38.640
my shows. You're doing two three shows a day. I
2085
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:40.640
was like, I do my show and I just leave.
2086
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:43.159
Yeah, because I just like the energy sometimes, you know,
2087
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:45.399
And I'll have a good chat with him because he's
2088
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:47.520
he's he's loose, like you know, you're gonna have a
2089
01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:49.399
good crack with him. It was a good few blocks
2090
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:51.399
that are really Yeah, that's what you need. Then you
2091
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:53.399
can just roll and pull a show like Jimmy and
2092
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:56.239
he had. I got a couple of mates and then
2093
01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:59.399
they started doing this like country Bogan pub thing. It's
2094
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.399
a good blake. It's American's American. Yeah, and he puts
2095
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:05.920
on his sort of eye. I don't know, he's been
2096
01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:07.880
back and forth. But he just you know, he found
2097
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:10.479
two mates that he liked and then they just put
2098
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:12.880
together a show and they started rolling around country pubs
2099
01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:14.920
and that that's the recipe. That's great because you know,
2100
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:18.600
guys like Kevin Bloody Wilson and Rodney Rude killing in
2101
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:21.520
those pubs out there, and they just bring happiness to
2102
01:29:21.560 --> 01:29:23.600
a country town the people that are working their asses
2103
01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:25.920
off on the farms and stuff. So they hit them
2104
01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:27.680
with a certain sort of human that they like and
2105
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:29.039
a bit of he keeps them a bit of the
2106
01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:33.680
American redneck stuff that sort of relates to country w A. Yeah,
2107
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:35.359
it's good. It was self sustaining. You know, they earn
2108
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:36.680
money from it and they can do it for a
2109
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:38.920
job and do it often. So that's the that's the secret.
2110
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:41.039
Get a few people, go further with people, I think.
2111
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.079
I think. So, yeah, that's that's a good movie. Yeah,
2112
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:47.279
it's if you'd take through me. I've got another story
2113
01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:49.079
for you. So when I was asking about rock Bottom,
2114
01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:52.159
I hit. I remember when I hit rock Bottom was
2115
01:29:52.199 --> 01:29:56.239
in Dublin, really yeah, And that was like fucking crazy
2116
01:29:56.279 --> 01:29:59.600
because so I was teaching him. I'm just graduating and
2117
01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:02.199
I was teaching in London and there was like three
2118
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:05.199
months where there was no work, and so I signed
2119
01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:07.880
up to this thing to teach to go to Ireland
2120
01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:10.840
to teach Italian kids English. Right, they go for the
2121
01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:14.199
summer and they went to the Ucity and Dublin and
2122
01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:16.319
I fucking loved it. Man, it was the coolest thing.
2123
01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:18.479
I just teaching. These kids were basically the same age
2124
01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:20.760
as me, because they go to school like eighteen nineteen
2125
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:22.840
or something, and I was like, only just cover like
2126
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:25.600
twenty something. Anyway, So and they'd all go drinking at
2127
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:27.479
the pub afterwards, I'd teach them how to speak English
2128
01:30:27.479 --> 01:30:28.760
and then we go to the problem. They'd be trying
2129
01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:31.479
it out, drinking guinness. It was awesome. And anyway, they
2130
01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:33.600
all fucked off because like they you know, their corks
2131
01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:34.960
had wrapped up. And I had a few more days
2132
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:37.000
because I wanted to go see a thing. But the
2133
01:30:37.479 --> 01:30:39.960
company that I was there with scammed us because they
2134
01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.439
were like, you're getting paid this much and you get
2135
01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:44.239
over there, They're like, oh no, we don't. You got
2136
01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:46.079
to go back to London. And so like I'd run
2137
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:48.720
out of money, like I had fuck all money, right,
2138
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:51.159
and that's just expensive, and I was living off like
2139
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:54.159
food coupons from the U City Summer College and then
2140
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.239
they give you this certain amount of coupons you and
2141
01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:58.520
so I just was gathering up other people's coupons and
2142
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:00.000
I was living off them for the next few days,
2143
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:02.680
and then they ran out. And anyway, we went to
2144
01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:05.880
the airport, and you know Doublin Airport, there's like kind
2145
01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:08.600
of two ends to it. And my thing said Dublin
2146
01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:11.279
to Stanstead, and I was hanging out with this Italian dude.
2147
01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:12.800
They're one of the teachers that I was made with.
2148
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:15.279
And I'm waiting for two hours and get in. It
2149
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:17.239
was all a mess. I go to the door, I
2150
01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:19.479
go to the gate and he gets on and then
2151
01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:21.199
I show the things. She's like, oh, no, this is
2152
01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:22.640
the wrong gate. You want to go down to the
2153
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:26.479
other end of the Doublin airport, but it's lunch in London. Stinted.
2154
01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:28.239
She's like, yeah, I know, but it's like a different gate.
2155
01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:30.159
I get there and the plane and gone, and they're like,
2156
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:33.760
no refunds, and I'm like, I literally have no money,
2157
01:31:33.800 --> 01:31:36.000
like I spent my last like two pounds to get here.
2158
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:38.600
But I had a phone and I was like I
2159
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:40.520
had about ten phone calls left something, you know, it
2160
01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:43.439
was like prepaid, and I couldn't get hold of Dad.
2161
01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:46.199
And a lady had missed the same thing had happened
2162
01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:48.199
to her, and she's like, I'll give you two pounds
2163
01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:50.239
for a phone call. I was like, done deal. So
2164
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:52.319
I get that two pounds and I catch the bus
2165
01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:54.880
back to UCD and all the kids had left, but
2166
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:56.760
the caretaker hadn't. Like I had to drop the key
2167
01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:57.840
in when I was on my way out, So I
2168
01:31:57.960 --> 01:32:00.439
fished the key out of the letter box. The doors
2169
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:02.880
gather all their leftover food, little cheeses from Italy and
2170
01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:05.880
fucking bits and pieces, halfaball of vodka and an old guitar,
2171
01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:08.479
and I'm meeting this and I'm like, how the fuck
2172
01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:09.680
am I gonna get allay out of it? How I'm
2173
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:12.119
gonna get money? Like I got nothing. So I got
2174
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:14.680
this guitar and I went into Dublin right where that
2175
01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:18.039
Temple bar is, that red, big famous bar, and all
2176
01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:20.159
I could play was like Master of Puppets, like bit
2177
01:32:20.199 --> 01:32:22.880
of Metallica and some Offspring and so just old night
2178
01:32:22.960 --> 01:32:25.760
between Offspring and Metallica, just like playing covers, and eventually
2179
01:32:25.880 --> 01:32:28.640
like saved up enough money that I got that fairy,
2180
01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:31.520
Like forty pounds got me the fairy back to London. Wow.
2181
01:32:31.640 --> 01:32:33.560
And I had to just like fucking struggle. But it
2182
01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:36.720
was like so having like it was the only the
2183
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:39.920
first time that I had ever had bounced like zero anything.
2184
01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:42.840
And I was like, fuck me, Like yeah.
2185
01:32:42.680 --> 01:32:43.039
Good one.
2186
01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:46.319
But door stories are the best stories after you survive
2187
01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:48.600
that you go. I was in a fucking foreign country
2188
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:51.399
and I had to get back like anything, just a
2189
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:53.560
fringe payment that I was wishing for it. I just
2190
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:55.720
paid me today. Actually, it was funny, they just paid
2191
01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:59.359
me today and I'm like, fucking I was doing a
2192
01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:01.399
marinip up for They took a bit of time. It
2193
01:33:01.479 --> 01:33:03.399
took two weeks to do it, but I had to
2194
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:05.479
do a few markets in between. So I was doing
2195
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:08.560
like tree shows on a Saturday, and the lads were like, oh,
2196
01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:10.479
you're an animal tree shows on a Saturday, and the
2197
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:13.039
wolf firstually was going, mate, I'm up at four am
2198
01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:15.039
in the morning. So I was getting at four am
2199
01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:19.000
and doing a market in pert sending these little kitchen gadgets.
2200
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:21.479
Yeah, just to get by and for the whole month.
2201
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:23.000
For the whole month I was here.
2202
01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:25.720
I've been staying, you know, the troops. So there was
2203
01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:28.560
like two weeks of a heat wave I just landed in.
2204
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:30.880
But now I'm back on top with this. So what
2205
01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:34.119
I'll do is because you get the big lump sum, yeah,
2206
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.159
I get the lump sum now. But yeah, the amount
2207
01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:38.119
of times over the years where I've just made a
2208
01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:39.840
small fortune and then just kept going.
2209
01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:42.159
So what's the thought when you're lying in that trip
2210
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carrier waiting for that pack Because when for love, when
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it's faced off famine, tappy industry, that's it's tough, man.
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What do you think Do you look at the roof
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of that trip and you're like fuck this or okay,
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this is the adventure. No, this is the adventure. Yeah,
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this is this is great. This would break a lot
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of people.
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I would say, yeah exactly, yeah, I know, like I
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would say to myself, this type of being this close
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to the bone.
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Yeah. But there's a bit of a buzz off it.
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There's a bit of a kind of like bang yeah,
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flying down to Adelaide tomorrow to help these guys run
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this new comedy club. Yeah, and they just want me
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to get people in for two hours at night time.
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And then there's a guy there every night that I
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just want to go down and watch. I want to
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watch him every night. He's called Steve Hughes. He's a
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meadow guy, meadowhead. Yeah, he's there.
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I think he's one of the like when I watch
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people on stage live.
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He took me.
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Like when I watched him in the Comics Lounge in
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Melbourne last year. He got on stage and it was
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all these like really good comedians. They were all practicing
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for some Channel seven or Channel nine, Jim Jeffrey and Friends.
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They were all flying in and Jim Jeffrey and Friends.
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But this guy got on stage, Steve Hughes, and he
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used to live with Jim Jeffries, and I think both
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of their styles are kind of like probably melted a
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bit because they live together in Manchester.
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Watching him on stage, mate, it was just like quality.
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He was brilliant. He's pausing, he's he's pulling you in
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his cadence, his toneality and then like he's so he'd
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be on every night in that club. I'm going to
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have you met him. I met him.
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I met him in the Melbourne yeah before just briefly.
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He was just going off and telling me from Perth
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here was sucking all over it because he's there's a
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01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:21.840
pretty good metal saying here, heavy metal saying is So
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he's just like any times over I love him. Yeah,
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01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:28.479
we love him and he loves That's I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
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01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:32.399
he's telling you from Perth and get him the mental yeah,
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and just be like, you know, come on, help me out.
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But that's what I've been around fellas as well, at
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the next level of that class. That's when the good
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01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:42.239
thing about going to Edinburgh and the Galway Comedy Festival
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last year in Ireland, So you know, Tommy Tierning and
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01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:50.960
these fellows like Dylan Moran, these guys like just right
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in front of you in the small room. Yeah, like
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watching everything they're doing is great because they've all got
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like it was thirty years, thirty five, forty years under
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the belt. Yeah, you can just see. But it's so
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much it's exciting, isn't it huge?
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Well, hey, listen, where can people get hold of you
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if they want to follow along? Ronnie Neville Irish. Ronnie
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Neville Irish is the Instagram. Instagram.
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Yeah, I say Instagram the best day. Yeah cool, I
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need to up some more videos, but yeah, this has
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been great, buddy, Thank.
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You very much. Thanks having It's been a long time
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01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:26.039
coming in. You're one of my favorite human beings, so
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thank you so much for coming in my great energy
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every time I meet you. Actually, i'm delighted today, Rosy.
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It was going. It's great. It's good looking in a mirror.
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Take care. Cheers, buddy. Thank you for listening to the
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