Billy & William - A Shakespeare In Production

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Hello everyone.
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Jude and I are squeezing in time wherever we can find it.
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We literally just recorded this episode.
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I don't have time to edit anything out of it before I send it off.
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Um, but I do think it's a ton of fun.
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So uh here we go.
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All right.
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Jude, you are a daddy now.
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Yes.
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Talk to me, talk to our wonderful listening audience.
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What's it like?
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It's wonderful.
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There's a little psychopath that has entered your life.
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Uh, she has come out of nowhere.
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Before you couldn't picture her, and now she's all you can picture.
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She screams when she poops, she screams when she's hungry, and she's always hungry, and she's always pooping.
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I constantly think about this fact I learned that sometimes a baby will not poop for a long time, and that's okay, because the mother's milk is the perfect food for a baby, so there is no waste product from it.
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I think that's true.
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I think that's absolutely true.
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And then also when they first start pooping, they have their like basically whatever like Neo comes out of in the Matrix when he kind of like coughs up when the thing comes out.
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Yeah.
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That's like inside of babies, and it's this like black substance they're pooping like tar for like four days after they're born.
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That's incredible, and then it starts to turn like a yellow green.
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Like it, yeah, it does.
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It looks like a little bit like um peanut butter or something.
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Oh my god.
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I'm already having a visceral reaction to this.
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I know, and guess what?
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I was like, that looks pretty good.
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I have thought that.
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I'm not even exaggerating or kidding.
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I've been like, that looks like a toppenade.
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That's a green goddess dressing.
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That is a green goddess.
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I just showed her little pictures of avocados and organic food labels, and she went, let me make you something special.
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Hey, Dad.
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You know what?
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You're not even gonna wonder about my career path.
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It's Chef.
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Baby Chef.
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Yes.
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Um, could you bottle it up in a Newman zone and sell it?
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But you know, give all the proceeds to charity.
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Yeah, a hundred percent.
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And then also I can create a new uh ethnicity for Newman to be.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, this one's just baby Newman.
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Yeah, baby Newman.
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But we could definitely come up with like an interesting, some interesting ethnicities.
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I don't think there's a Bahamian.
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I forgot about the fact that Paul Newman did the Trader Jose thing before Trader Joe's.
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Oh, 100%.
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Yeah.
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And everyone gave that whole like I I guess what would you call that?
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Like woke one, totally missed the Newman's own dressing.
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When he did the maple syrup and he just dressed up like Ant Jimima.
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Yep.
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They did get rid of that one.
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Yeah, the Caesar one is just like Roman, I guess, so maybe he was like more like the historical figure kind of thing.
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Right.
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Helped him.
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But you know, time is a flat circle, and I imagine there are some ancient Romans, probably like Brutus or some scholars, and they are saying, you know, my culture is not your costume.
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My culture is not your dressing, dude.
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Newman's own yogurt, his culture is our dressing.
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Speaking about the Romans, though, welcome to Squequels.
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It's a sequel podcast.
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Uh, we believe that every movie deserves a sequel.
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Every movie deserves a sequel.
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We believe in the power of the voice, not just our beautiful singing voices, but in the voice that speaks to each and every one of us when it so deigns to grace us with its and we shouldn't expect that it would be always but there's like this little book called I don't know, the Bible.
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And there's a lot of voices in that one.
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There are.
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Uh I choose to read usually the words in red.
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Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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I like more of the green text, if you know what I mean.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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What do you mean?
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I mean 4chan is my Bible.
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Oh yes.
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Um, whatever happened to Q?
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Oh, it's I think it's gone.
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Yeah, the the like whole Epstein thing just fizzled and Q died along C.
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Yeah, oh, I think it just became either like the craziest parts kind of fizzled off, and then the not so crazy parts it just became like truly reality.
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Right, yeah, yeah.
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You know, so I'm I'm surprised more of them aren't like we were right about the pedophile thing.
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Yeah, I I think the pedophile thing is is a big part of it, but also it's just like it became so convoluted and crazy, yeah, that I do feel it's just like kind of mainstream now, whenever you watch like a man on the street, a Jordan Clepper interview, if you will.
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It's like well, Q is just Q is just what half the country believes.
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Right, right.
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And but my favorite, do you I don't know if you remember this.
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Do you remember when during COVID, they were like, oh, we're gonna bring up this um medical cruise ship, and they're gonna bring it to New York Harbor, and then we're gonna put COVID patients on it.
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Yes.
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And Q was like, no, this is because there are mole children in Manhattan, and this barge is going to save them.
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And they were like, save the mole children, whatever.
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That was so good.
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It was so good.
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Where were they going to bring the mole children?
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I to safety, I guess.
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I don't know, but they were all like so relieved.
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That was a really good QAnon episode.
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I think I would have loved to have been a part of that if I had just tried a little bit harder, I probably could have.
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And now we still have all these mole children living in peril underneath New York.
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They never got on the cruise.
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No.
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No, they uh they got on some carnival's cruise.
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Uh yeah, exactly.
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So boring.
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I mean, dude, those mole kids are just still down there to this day.
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And with this heat wave, they're probably fucking hot as shit.
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Yeah, their bacon are broiling down there.
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Even when I get down in the subway and I'm, you know, ready for it and I'm not in like the bowels of it.
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Yeah, I basically cook half to death every time I get down there these days.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Do you want to actually this is a little change of subject, but did you do you want to know something that was really funny about newborns?
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I would this is the subject we're supposed to be.
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Oh, this is the subject that we're on?
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Okay, alright, I forgot.
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Okay.
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They come out with like sometimes, not all the time, but mine did, with like a lot of back hair.
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So she had straight up when she was born, had like Tony Soprano levels of back hair.
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That's nice.
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And like she had kind of like broad shoulders, so she would like you know, snuggle up on my back with like a lot of like fucking back hair.
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And I really wanted to put like a a chain on that baby, you know, and be like, hey, yeah.
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Hey, hey, hey, I hey can I can you do a Tony Sippi?
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I don't even I do a kind of Tony Sippy with my prescriptions.
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Wait, my prescription.
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Uh I I think it's a little bit it's also like kind of high, also Yeah.
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Christopher, fuck you, Christopher.
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I oh geez, I don't even know.
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Um yeah, dude.
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Yeah, they come out with back hair.
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Um Do you think that's to help them slip out easier?
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No, it's to like keep them warm in the womb.
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And it has a name and it's called like Legumbo or something.
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The womb is not warm enough?
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No, they need like hair in there.
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The womb is not warm enough.
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They need some hair.
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Hair in there.
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The womb is not the womb is not woman, nothing.
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Here at Squeakels, we believe that the womb is not warm enough.
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They need some hair in there.
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Uh and we believe in brothers loving each other.
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Yes, the brothers loving each other is really important, and that's also why we're kind of a little bit Roman today, too.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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You've heard those stories of the Spartans.
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Yeah, those they're Greek, but who cares, dude?
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It's all the same.
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It's all Greek.
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It's all Mediterranean.
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It's all Greek to me, man.
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It's all Mediterranean to Greek.
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It's all Mediterranean to me, dude.
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Um, and we believe in a few other things, but I don't want to get into it.
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The main thing that we believe for at least the next few weeks is that every movie deserves a sequel.
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And last week, Clayton Hamburg, good friend of the pod, came in and he said that Shakespeare in Love deserved a sequel, and of course, because of our core tenets, we full and wholeheartedly agree with him.
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I believed it before he even came in.
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We also kind of discussed in theory that Shakespeare in Love was already a sequel uh to Hamnet.
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Hamnet, the award uh nominee award winner.
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Uh I don't I think the actress one battle, yeah.
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One battle after another, but who what's her name?
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The one who was in um Detective Frankenstein, Lady Detective Frankenstein?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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She won the Oscar for Best Actress.
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I mean, she's incredible.
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Yeah.
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What is her name?
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Oh boy, if only, if only I could remember Lady Detect Did you see Lady Detective Frankenstein?
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I did not, but I am in a like horror community on Instagram where they are there's a lot of them who will just like really harp on um and like fan fan out for movies that a lot of people don't like.
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Yeah.
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And uh Lady Detective Frankenstein was one where they're like, everybody hates this movie, but this is one of the most fun movies of the year.
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It it Jesse Buckley is her name.
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Jesse Buckley.
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I I remember seeing previews for that movie at least like seven months before it came out, and I think they must have probably delayed it.
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Yeah.
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Because they knew that she was gonna get a lot of like awards buzz for Hamnets.
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They're like, oh, let's like, you know, drag this thing out.
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So I think going to the movies, I'm not sure if your experience was like this, but I saw so many different versions of that trailer.
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Yeah.
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One of them they had like a street dance scene.
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I don't know.
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I don't have to have to say Maggie Gyllenhaal.
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What would what her uh instruments were wrote and directed, yeah, by Maggie Gyllenhall.
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Yes.
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Um, I remember a lot of the beginning and early trailers focused on Christian Bale in it, and I just like don't like seeing Christian Bale in shit anymore.
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Um I feel like he should kind of do a Daniel Day Lewis and just be like, you know what?
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I've acted enough.
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I'm I'm good.
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Maybe one next in the next five years, but like seeing Christian Bale come out with like a goofy prosthetic could be like, you fucking never, you know.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like, I can't.
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And you know, he probably was like a jerk about it too on the set.
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He was like, uh, hey, uh, you you gotta call me Detective Frankenstein from now, you know what I mean?
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Like, I'm I'm in character.
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Yeah, because he does that shit.
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Yeah.
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And they were like, hey, um, Mr.
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Bale, would you like um an espresso?
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And he's like, What is espresso?
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Brains! Yeah.
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Um, you know what?
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I you know, if if I ever met Christian Bale, you know what I would do?
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What?
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I would pull the old Lawrence Olivier on uh to Dustin Hoffman, and I'd say, Uh, have you ever considered acting when he does all his method stuff?
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Yeah, and he would actually be prepping for a movie where he's playing Dustin Hoffman.
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Yeah.
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He'd be like, you know what?
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I'm walking here.
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I watched a video on Instagram, and apparently he's saying I'm walking here is only something that uh South Chicago greasers, modern greasers, can say.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, the it was like a 16-year-old kid, and he's like, I'm part of the greaser community, and there's certain things that we say and we know that are like only for us.
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And one of them was like, you know, you're a actual greaser if you're from like mid-Chicago.
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Um, and then the other part was uh saying I'm walking here.
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That's crazy.
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Did he have like I didn't know that the greasers were still active?
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Is it like Rockabilly community or is that different?
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It did not feel rockabilly, no.
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It felt like very greaser, greaser, greaser focused.
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Wow, wow, okay.
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I didn't know that was coming back.
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It is in a big way.
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Um, do you think modern greasers hold Ratzo Rizzo as kind of their like patron saint?
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Do they hold Ratzo River?
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I that's a tough one because I don't think that he's very um powerful.
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No.
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Uh as a matter of fact, I would say that he's kind of pathetic and he fucking dies.
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And they just leave him on a fucking bus.
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He's so not powerful that he just kind of slowly passes away over the course of the movie.
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Yeah, yeah, he just kind of slowly dies as soon as you meet him.
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So, no, this is a terrible one.
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I would actually say, going back to the last episode, it would be someone like Fonzi.
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Yeah, who has godlike powers.
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Arthur Fonzarelli, who had to wear a jean jacket when next to the motorcycle, and could wear a leather jacket when he was not next to the motorcycle, because they didn't want to push the fact that a motorcycle riding greaser community was good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well then no um, you know, MTV, they always do that kind of shit.
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I mean, when obviously when Happy Days was famously on MTV, but I'm saying like more like MTV music videos, you know, they'd be like, oh, if you do something bad in the music video, you have to show someone getting retribution for it.
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You know?
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Um morality plays.
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Yeah, or just, you know, showing things that are, you know, yeah, exactly, morally correct.
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I'm trying to think of who these kids would idolize, who's a modern-day greaser.
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Did they say, like, oh, you know, like little Dirk is someone that we idolize?
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Would you say that maybe like I know there's kind of a gothy crow-like element to him, but would you maybe say Youngblood could be a modern greaser?
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Yeah, sure.
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Why not?
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Uh oh god.
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Um yeah, maybe some kind of like emo rapper that kind of could I could see that kind of getting into greaser territory.
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Yeah.
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They just have to get more like obsessed with cars or machines.
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Right.
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You do need the kind of mechanic where the grease comes from.
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Yeah.
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Where does grease come from?
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Where does grease come from?
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So I'm really delaying and kind of like encouraging these tangents, dude.
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One, because I took an edible like 30 minutes ago.
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Yes.
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But two, because who could live up to the eternal bard?
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You know?
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I was tasked with writing a follow-up to Shakespeare and Love.
00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.039
Um, Clayton's pitch was Shakespeare and Butt Love.
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I think I've done a little bit of a punch-up on the title already.
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Okay.
00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:17.600
Um, but it's about Shakespeare discovering his like queer identity after he uh I guess what Clayton was positing was fucks a dude for the first time.
00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:32.639
And I thought about that, and I thought about how Tom Stoppard was instrumental in writing Shakespeare in Love, and how his language really like elevated the thing and brought you to almost like a Shakespearean text, albeit a very like digestible one.
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Yeah.
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Um and then I thought about Hamnet, and that's like I think lauded is like one of the best modern screenplays of our time, you know.
00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:54.159
And I didn't want to try to either match Shakespeare or whoever wrote Hamlet, yeah, or um Tom Stoppard.
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So I kind of just like didn't write anything good this week.
00:15:59.039 --> 00:15:59.519
Good, good, good.
00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:03.279
Because you had a baby and that's exhausting for you.
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Yeah.
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And thinking about it was kind of also exhausting for me.
00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:08.799
It should be exhausting for you.
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It's all about at the end of the day, it's all about you, you know.
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And every time I wake up and change uh her diaper, I'm like, this is must be so hard on Jordan.
00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:23.679
Um I've also started a new job, and that's taken up quite a bit of my time and brain.
00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:42.559
Um, so today, just as we like kind of move into the idea of what Squeak Wolves is going to become soon, um, I thought maybe let's just like expand, open up the writer's room so that the audience can see the process of writing one of these scripts, BTS.
00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:43.120
Okay.
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How does that feel to you?
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It feels good.
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I'm still trying because you said it earlier, it's like, oh, we're gonna get Roman today.
00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.759
So I was like, oh, that either has to do with like the wet boy room or you know, something a little biased.
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I see that.
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I see that.
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No, really what I meant, and I guess I didn't close that segue, was that Shakespeare wrote about the Romans quite a bit.
00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:03.759
Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:10.000
Um they're they're you know, they're a subject of a lot of drama.
00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:11.519
Uh yeah, not drama.
00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:12.720
A lot of drama.
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Who's your favorite Greek um or Roman playwright?
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Oh, my favorite Greek or Roman playwright.
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Oh boy.
00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:30.079
Um I guess Aeschylus, I don't know.
00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:31.359
That's a good one.
00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:32.240
That's a good one.
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I really can't think of another one.
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What about your you've got your Aristophanes?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You've got your um Euripides.
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Yes.
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Um Yeah, I would say maybe is Euripides the frogs, is that?
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Yeah, it is.
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I like that.
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I like that.
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That's a comforting one.
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Yeah, I do love Lysistrata.
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Who's Lys Estrata?
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I think that is the one that I said first, Aeschylus.
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Okay, and then Medea is just so good too.
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Yeah, classic.
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Yeah.
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But that's what we're really doing here.
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Kind of squeakels, we are a sequel to these playwrights of old.
00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:11.519
Uh, they existed, and then Shakespeare took their stories.
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He took their bars.
00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:13.359
Yeah.
00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:15.759
Yeah, he took their bars, he remixed them.
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Yes.
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Um, so allow us to have this kind of like turn the chair around.
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Or turn the turn the turntables around, you know what I mean?
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And put a little 808 underneath that.
00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:33.599
Um and let's just kind of wrap about what this movie could have been.
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So what I conceived of in my short amount of like mental punch up was that we're we are looking at it as a a three-quel.
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This is the third part of this series.
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Yes.
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And I think they each kind of like change in genre, they each kind of like change in tone.
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Okay.
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Um, and so I wanted to find a new tone for this next play or next movie and kind of keep it evolving, but also following theme.
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So what I did was I wanted to see something that could bring the audience in to our modern day, but also kind of provide them with a little bit of like a historical, you know, feast.
00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:25.599
So what I deposit is that we are seeing two timelines at play.
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We are seeing Shakespeare in his time writing as you like it.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And then we are seeing a young man in a modern context directing as you like it.
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Okay, okay.
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Both discovering the text as they do it in a parallel storyline.
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And we call it Billy and William.
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Oh, okay.
00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:59.119
So it's kind of like the uh one where Meryl Streep is Julia and Julie.
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Julie and Julie.
00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:01.359
Okay, okay, I like that.
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Okay.
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I'm I'm following you here.
00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:04.000
Alright.
00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:04.400
All right.
00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:05.519
First thoughts.
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Uh it's good, it's good.
00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:08.319
We got timelines.
00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:14.160
Um I kind of like the idea of not introducing some kind of goofy time travel thing in there.
00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:23.039
I think the discovery, uh, you know, what is it, the juxtaposition of like today and yesterday uh together could really work, you know?
00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:24.960
Yeah, show us how timeless the text is.
00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:25.440
Okay.
00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:34.319
I like that you kind of specifically pointed on um not using time travel because like I don't want there to be time travel.
00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:34.559
Yeah.
00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:40.960
But obviously, I'm a psychedelic freak, and I believe that time is a flat circle, and we already talked about that a little bit.
00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:48.960
And so I did say, like, what if the magic of theater there was like a moment of recognition through space and time?
00:20:49.279 --> 00:21:01.839
There's no actual like hijinks, but maybe something that happens in the future that kind of like inspires Shakespeare somehow because of the magic of theater.
00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:15.759
There's like a uh, yes, um, there's this movie I saw and I forget the name of it, but there was like Aurora Borealis would happen, you know, and and that would be like the connection between it was called frequency.
00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:18.640
Oh, of course, frequency, yes.
00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:24.079
Um, it was like definitely if it didn't have quad.
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It was a quade joint, it's a quade joint.
00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:27.759
Okay, all right.
00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.960
I was like, it was either Kevin Costner or Dennis Quaid.
00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:34.799
It had definitely a quaid, and he's like a firefighter.
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Yes, yes.
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Was it his father as a firefighter or is he the father?
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He is the son and he's communicating with the father.
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Yes.
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And it's using I remember there's like Aurora Borealis is how this connection happens.
00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:59.599
And like their their stories are being like interconnected through this, this, you know, this electricity and magnetism that could only exist in like 1997 with Dennis Quaid.
00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:00.319
Right.
00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:10.799
Um, there's a there's a great point where he discovers the the connection and how it happens, and so he carves something into a desk.
00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:11.759
Into a desk.
00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:12.480
Yes.
00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:14.880
And um none of it makes sense.
00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:15.920
No, it doesn't.
00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:16.319
It doesn't.
00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:17.440
But it was yeah.
00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:21.359
But I will say that that's the kind of hijink I don't want to see.
00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:22.480
No, we don't want that.
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:33.039
What I want to see is maybe like Billy walks the globe stage while he's like going through the lines and like really like, what is this about for me?
00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:39.119
And while he's doing that, we see Shakespeare walking in the opposite direction.
00:22:39.200 --> 00:23:04.000
And maybe as their bodies cross on a parallel timeline, there's like a moment of recognition that like Shakespeare's words will reverberate through the future, and somehow that energy in the future echoes back to Shakespeare, and he goes, Like, that's the inspiration, is that like art is eternal and like love is eternal and something, and then he writes that.
00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:05.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:12.079
And then they're a little like spar when it when they cross, like a little spark of electricity goes between them, and it's like and they're both like, what was that?
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.680
They like both look over their opposite shoulder, but they're like, No one's there.
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.720
Yes, but then they're like, I think I've got it.
00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:27.119
Or and also maybe when they look over their shoulder, what they see is their current queer partner, and they're like, That's the answer.
00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:28.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:30.079
And they're connected too.
00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:35.440
Yes, they're connected in in ways that you know always would put them in this position.
00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:55.200
Maybe this is this could be time travel hygiene's kind of level, but without any time travel, is maybe the person that kind of opens up Billy to his gender exploration and all of that is an ancient descendant of Shakespeare's queer partner at the time, too.
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:59.359
I yeah, I was thinking a whole lineage thing going on here.
00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:04.319
You know, they do like a 23andMe and they scroll down and like, oh, you got a new relative.
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:04.559
Yeah.
00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:10.480
And they're like, Oh, I didn't know I was like 15% Stratford upon Avon.
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:10.799
Yeah.
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:11.599
Look down.
00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:12.480
Who's this?
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:19.519
Did you know that you're uh did you know that you're related to Anne Boleyn or you know, something like you know, yeah.
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:20.240
Yeah.
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:21.759
That's crazy.
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:22.319
Okay.
00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:27.599
So we're already starting to see the the the epiphany train leaving the space.
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:29.920
And I love the connection of space too.
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.240
So it's like it could just be the globe, you know.
00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:40.319
It could be like that, like, you know, the maybe it's the rebuilt one that they currently have, not necessarily in the same area, but still like connected like spiritually.
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:41.440
Spiritually, yeah.
00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.519
Um maybe it's like uh it's it's the concept of uh the ship.
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:46.720
What's his name's ship?
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:48.000
A ship of uh thesis.
00:24:48.160 --> 00:25:01.599
The ship of thesis, yes, is that like you know, there's one board that still exists that they brought over from the old globe, and that kind of like you know, yeah, yeah, that's and that's the triumph of the human spirit.
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:05.599
And they could maybe they'll find out later, they'll be like, you know what actually?
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:09.039
There's no piece of wood from the original one.
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.519
The the wood, it was you.
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.640
You were you were the vessel, dude!
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:17.200
Yeah, and that's too loud.
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:19.440
That's too loud or too close.
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:24.640
Yeah, maybe it's both, but maybe it's like it's a guy that's like the goofy friend.
00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:26.960
It's like, you were the vessel, dude.
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:38.400
Yeah, there should be a goofy friend um who is like yeah, he's probably like the dogbury plus or some of the famous staff or something.
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:45.680
Let's make him a combination of like the best and worst um of Shakespeare's comedic relief.
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.400
Because Falstaff, I think, is like the pinnacle, right?
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:57.359
You know, when you think of that, it's like Falstaff reaches the highest highs of comedy while also grounding and being incredibly human at the same time.
00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.240
Whereas Dogberry is just kind of dog shit.
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:06.880
Yeah, this guy, it's like he's a walking um bathroom reader of like dad puns.
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:07.440
Yeah.
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:08.160
Uh yeah.
00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:10.160
Oh, to uh it's funny.
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:16.319
Actually, yesterday I was going for a walk when I was walking with Stephanie and we we we saw you.
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:25.839
I looked to the side of the road and I saw that there was a bag full of books, and the top said, like, you know, 99 dad jokes.
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:27.599
I was like, oh, I gotta grab this one.
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:32.079
So I like I reached down to grab it, and then I hear this lady's voice say, Hey, hey, that's my bag.
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:35.279
And I was like, I'm so sorry.
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:40.480
So I was like, if you put your bag full of books on the ground, I'm gonna grab them, I'm gonna touch them.
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:41.519
I didn't see the lady.
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:42.880
Bag of books on the ground.
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:44.000
Was it a tote bag?
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:44.960
It was a tote bag.
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.599
Okay, well then that's it wasn't for me.
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:53.440
That's a little less I know if it was like a ziploc, I'd be like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:56.319
Or even like a plastic bag, but no, no, no, it was a tote bag.
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.720
It was like And it said my favorite books on the zip.
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:01.599
Yeah, my favorite books don't touch strangers.
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:03.759
Yeah, genie's picks.
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:04.559
Yes.
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:06.480
Um, so that happened.
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:12.400
I'm sure you could find that 99 Dead Jokes book in any thrift store throughout a story.
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:14.319
I'm sure, but I wanted this one.
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:17.759
Um, but it was very funny because that is the joke.
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:20.000
That is Dogberry, that's his whole character.
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:27.359
Um, let's just very quickly, while we're talking about it, this is a book I think I either got off the street or picked up from a thrift store.
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:33.279
Um, I've been doing an Instagram series that I've paused for a minute um about it.
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:34.960
Uh it's a limerick book.
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:42.480
It's called The Limerick, and it's a history of the limericks with over 1700 printed limericks within uh from over history.
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:47.759
I've just turned to a random page uh under the title under the chapter buggery.
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.759
So all these are about buggery.
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.400
Isn't that about doing stuff in the butt?
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:53.680
Uh yeah.
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:55.279
Good, okay.
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:59.359
Um, so uh some of these are truly horrible.
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.720
I'm sure uh in content, not just in quality.
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:05.599
Um like this one, 472.
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:11.200
There was an old man named Grasty, whose favorite sport was Asty.
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:16.960
He'd bugger with joy any innocent boy, but thought fornication was nasty.
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:19.759
This is getting Roman.
00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:21.920
You were right about the whole Roman thing.
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.079
That was written, it looks like, by uh Euripides.
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:26.400
Yeah.
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:27.039
Yeah.
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:28.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:32.640
Yeah, got touched talking about butt stuff, getting really into that kind of stuff.
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.160
Um, yeah, just gems everywhere.
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.079
Gems, planet fitnesses, uh, where they could do that kind of stuff.
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:41.359
Yeah, a lot of fun down there.
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.400
So we've got this goofy sidekick character.
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:51.440
Um, Shakespeare literally inventing the side character from uh like um shock comedies.
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:56.559
Notting Hill, like the the roommate who's in the bath eating yogurt all the time.
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:57.279
Yes.
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.960
Like that's a classic Shakespearean friend, you know?
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:01.680
Yeah.
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.960
Um Philip Seymour Hoffman in Along Came Polly.
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:06.319
Oh, classic.
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:08.240
Pretty fall staff fella, right there.
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:10.799
Philip Seymour Hoffman in Cold Mountain.
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:13.359
Classic sidekick.
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:14.880
Yeah, dude.
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:16.240
He loved Buggery.
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:17.200
He did love Buggery.
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.880
And also that movie when just Jack White comes out of nowhere.
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:23.119
Yeah, just great stuff.
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:24.960
Um, uh just okay.
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:28.480
This is uh all tangents, oops, all tangents episode.
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:35.279
But I've been bartending at this place uh in the east side called The Immigrant on Sunday nights.
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:46.400
I pour wine at a place of uh uh wine and beer.
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:57.039
I also make cocktails, uh, and there's this uh Eastern European guy uh who is like seven feet tall, long ass hair comes in.
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:03.440
Um his name is like Zurek, and uh he is the loudest man I have ever met in my life.
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:04.079
Wow.
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:12.240
Uh and the first time I met him, he like sits in the corner of the bar with his headphones in and he like jams out to music while he's like drinking his wine.
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:19.279
Oh uh and sometimes he'll just make a noise like but he'll talk to me for a while because he thinks I'm cool.
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:25.279
And uh the first time I met him, he talked about how Jack White is the greatest musical artist to ever live.
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:27.200
I was like, okay.
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:29.519
He had just come from a Jack White concert.
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:31.519
And okay.
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:34.319
I mean, a fair, it's it it he's very impressive.
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.000
I mean, yeah, I think he's he is a music genius.
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:42.640
I don't know if I'd say he's the musical artist that I want to listen to.
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:46.079
No, I don't want to listen to him like all the time, or like even ever.
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:46.720
Ever.
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.160
But when I was younger, like 15, I thought he was like the coolest guy ever.
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:52.480
Uh wait, can I subtangent your tangent really quickly?
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:54.079
Subtangent the tangent away.
00:30:54.160 --> 00:31:05.440
Okay, so my really good friend Alex, we've been friends since we were in fifth grade, but we went to like the movies, I think, when we were like 16, and there was this movie, and it was highlighting three guitarists.
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:05.920
Okay.
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.960
And the three guitarists were like this was a documentary.
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:10.720
It was like a documentary, it was like a rockumentary.
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:11.200
Okay.
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.000
But the three guitarists were Jack White.
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:19.920
Um, it was like I it it could have been like Niall Rogers or something.
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:23.279
I just want to remind you that this episode is basically going out live.
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.480
So if you can't think of something, just make it up.
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:28.160
Yeah, just make it up or Nile Rogers.
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:31.119
But then the last one was like The Edge from V2.
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:32.079
The Edge.
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:32.640
The Edge.
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:33.279
The Edge.
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:34.319
Yeah, it was the Edge.
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:44.480
But anyway, like Jack White kind of like, he was like, Alright, so I made this like 19th century style guitar out of like wood, uh, other shit that I found.
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:45.440
It sounds awesome.
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.519
He like rocked out to it, did like a solo.
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:59.920
Uh now Rogers is kind of like showing like how he does like funk, rhythm, all that other stuff, and then it showed the edge, and the edge was like, Well, what I like to do is I like to um like press it, press uh, press a button here, and it kind of like does like an echo effect.
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:02.240
Like he just was like the reverb.
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:05.359
That was all the edge did.
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:06.640
Um so that was that's it.
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:11.440
There's a whole thing where if you pluck one string, it gives you like a nice singular resonant note.
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:12.000
And it makes it.
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:19.839
But if you strum multiple at the same time, uh it it creates kind of a resonant um uh combination of notes.
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:20.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.920
Um and if it's the right combination of notes, it has a very pleasing effect.
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:30.319
Or if you like take this reverb button and you turn it up to like ten and you and you deal with brrrrrr, it goes like brrrrr.
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:44.400
Sometimes when I use the guitar, I I um I will pick with my fingers, as it were, but there's also a small tool you can employ that is also called get this, wait for it, uh pick.
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:45.839
I didn't come up with the name.
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:46.240
Yeah.
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.079
I assume the edge is Irish, but we made him so RP.
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.319
Um yeah, they're all Irish as fuck.
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:55.920
Okay, so you're at the immigrant bar.
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:59.279
Well, so uh he said Jack White is the greatest artist of all time.
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:05.279
Um, and then I was uh using Bandcap, Bandcamp, as I'm looking to do now.
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:06.960
I I'm done with Spotify.
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:08.640
Hashtag cancel Spotify.
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:09.440
Yeah.
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:14.960
Um and uh Bandcamp doesn't use any AI, there's no AI music on it.
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:19.920
Um, and uh yeah, it just actually pays artists that are on it.
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:21.759
It has a lot less artists on it.
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:26.400
Um but uh the new Jack White album was on there, and I was like, I'll give it a listen.
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:27.680
Guess what?
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:28.720
Whoa, what'd you think?
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:32.160
It sounds just like everything I've ever heard.
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:37.119
Hey, there's something to be said to that because sometimes there's some bands that make just worse albums.
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.960
So maybe if consistency is completely consistency is key, and he is a genius.
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:46.079
Uh, have you ever seen the video where he like names every Beatles song within like 0.5 seconds or something like that?
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.039
No, I did not, but I've done I've tried to do that.
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.359
I've found a YouTube channel where the guy like gives you the challenge, or you take it with him kind of.
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:53.680
Yeah.
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:58.559
He must have been like riffing off that, but I'll play like two seconds of a Beatles song.
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.000
And this guy, I forget, it's like David Bennett piano or whatever.
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:09.840
He's like a you know, he's a classically like trained pianist, he loves the Beatles, but he likes he's he's a tra he's a classically trained penis.
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:11.760
It's beautiful.
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.480
But he can only get like 60% of them.
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.480
Jack White could get 100% of them.
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:17.119
It's crazy.
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:17.840
It's crazy.
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:18.159
Yeah.
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:20.719
He's also great as Elvis in Walk Hard.
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:21.119
Yes.
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.199
There's only two that's called uh Kung Fu.
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:25.199
There's only two people in the old day.
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:26.320
Kung Fu Massel.
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:26.960
I know.
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.719
And then Frankie Munez comes up as uh Who is he in that?
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:33.119
I forget.
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.840
Um he's um every day.
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.960
Things are getting closer, going fast.
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.079
Um He died in the plane crash.
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:43.280
Uh Buddy Holly.
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:44.079
He's Buddy Holly.
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:44.719
Buddy Holly.
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.920
Buddy Holly Holly and the Big Bobber.
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.039
Yeah, yeah, all dead.
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:49.519
All dead.
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:50.639
All dead, same crash.
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:52.639
Same cause same crash, same cause.
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.239
The pilot was like, whoo! Don't like where this music's heading.
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:56.880
You know?
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:58.960
Said I'll end this one really quick.
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:06.159
Um you know who avoided that um oh, the the The outlaw himself.
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.760
No, it was um the guy that made Family Guy.
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:20.960
I would have done, but I know I was gonna get I was gonna get on that plane, but uh famous crooner Seth McPean.
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.920
Yes, McFarland was gonna get on the plane with the big bobper, but he I slept through my alarm.
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:28.079
Slept through my alarm, got right on through.
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:30.000
Lawrence.
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:31.039
All right.
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.559
Um so let's get back to Shakespeare.
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:44.960
Um I've kind of conceived of like three like peak moments of this movie, and I want to kind of like spitball them with you and kind of like develop them in real time.
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:45.360
Okay.
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:45.840
Okay.
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.400
Okay, I've got my teacher face on because I'm like, ooh.
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:50.320
I hope I don't get spitballed.
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:51.039
That's funny.
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:51.840
You know what I mean?
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:52.400
That's funny.
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:53.679
I hope I don't get spippled.
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.079
Um so Jude, yeah.
00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:17.039
I'm a big nerd in a lot of ways, but one of the things I find is that when I'm watching these Shakespeare movies, uh-huh where that's like, you know, ancillary to the play that is actually happening, I'm so much more excited when they're doing the play.
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:17.599
Oh.
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.559
Like, especially because it's like, how does the text inform the moment?
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.880
And like, you know, is that forced?
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:26.079
Does it feel forced?
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:30.559
But I just like want to see Shakespeare rather than these movies.
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:31.440
I get it.
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:32.320
I get it.
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:32.880
Okay.
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:39.679
So I've wrapped each one of these scenes around a part of as you like it.
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:40.800
Oh, okay.
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:43.599
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:49.199
And I think it would go like we start with more of Shakespeare.
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:54.639
Like we see more of his life and more of his story and his journey, and he feels like our foundation.
00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:06.559
And then as we get to the end of the movie, we're more embracing the Billy story and seeing his completed journey, and in the middle is kind of like a shared space, and that's maybe where we see that little handoff.
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.800
It's like the text or the recipe.
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:09.119
Yes.
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:14.639
If you like the recipe for success or human emotion, or you know, the thing that we're all feeling.
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:20.719
Um, and you know what they say about Shakespeare, and I believe it mostly about all good plays is like trust the text.
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:21.199
Yeah.
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:22.559
Trust the text.
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:30.480
You don't, if you're uh acting, and there's a little acting, because Jude and I are also both successful professional actors.
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:31.119
All the time.
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:35.039
We're doing when we're not podcasting, we're in the proscenium.
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.840
We are walking the thrust.
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:39.599
We're we're walking the thrust.
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.760
We're walking out of the dressing room.
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:49.760
I'm walking to what I consider to be the left, but you in the audience would maybe consider to be That's the right side.
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:51.199
Yeah, that's the right side on the right side.
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:52.800
Is stage left?
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:56.559
Stage left is uh your left.
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.360
So stage left would look like right to me.
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.159
That's it's the dumbest thing in the world.
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:03.360
It but you know what?
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:04.000
You know what?
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:06.320
That's the law of the mirrors, too.
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.639
Because mirrors, they think the same way.
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.840
They say, oh, stage left, stage right, that makes sense to me.
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:13.760
Yes, yes, the fucking mirror.
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.920
And isn't theater but a mirror to society and life?
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:19.199
Yes, life is a herald.
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:20.000
I think I degree.
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:20.800
I think I degree.
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:31.360
You didn't think we would become so academic, but now that we dig into Shakespeare, these these first folios that we have before us, uh, Squeakles is an academic podcast.
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:38.480
Academic exercise, and absolutely I've got the art in Shakespeare of As You Like It open in front of me right this second.
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:43.039
So As You Like It, um, as you like it, is a comedy.
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.159
Uh it's one of your favorite comedy of errors in a lot of ways.
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:46.960
It's a romance.
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:47.519
Oh, yeah.
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:53.760
Uh, and the reason I chose it as kind of our thesis piece is because there's a ton of gender bending uh within it.
00:38:54.000 --> 00:39:00.800
And so there ends up being flirtation between characters um that maybe would awaken something.
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:15.519
As um, you know, characters flirt with each other, they are thinking that the other one is it's like a man flirting with a man, even though he per you know, he thinks he is a man, but in reality it's a woman.
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:16.079
Right.
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.559
So I thought there was a lot of like fun, queer play within that.
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:38.400
Um the first scene that I thought would be good was um act four scene one, um, which is where uh Rosalind and um Orlando really have this back and forth, but Rosalind is uh disgu disguised as Ganymede.
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:38.800
Okay.
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:47.840
And also Ganymede is a reference to an ancient Greek myth, which involves kind of a gender bender situation.
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:48.400
Yep.
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:55.280
So I'm I'm always, even when I'm not writing a script, I'm already thinking on all these levels.
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:56.159
You're already there.
00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:05.199
That's like uh you've got you know, hunger, uh sex drive, and uh gender bending Shakespeare stuff.
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.360
That's those are my three pillars.
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:08.079
Yeah.
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:22.400
Um, so you know, I I think really what I'm I we don't need to dig into the text too much, but we can kind of like skim over it as we suss it out and storm this together, suss it out.
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:28.320
So my idea is that this is like our proper introduction to Shakespeare.
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:28.960
Okay.
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:35.199
And we're seeing kind of a montage of him post Shakespeare in Love.
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:39.119
Whatever happens to Gwyneth Paltrow's character, we can look it up in the history books.
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:40.159
She's in the islands.
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:47.360
Yeah, she's in the islands, and she's like, hey, I'm gonna have a sexual journey while I'm out there.
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:47.920
Yep.
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.559
Discovering what the islands have to offer.
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.960
Yeah, she's going to secrets.
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.079
Secrets Nassau.
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:57.679
She's going to some creepy.
00:40:57.840 --> 00:40:58.559
She's going to sandals.
00:40:58.960 --> 00:40:59.679
She's going to sandals.
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:00.880
They're all wearing sandals.
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.840
Oh, buddy, you know, you know where they're wearing sandals?
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:09.280
In the the room where everything's covered in plastic because people are fucking doing it.
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:09.679
Yeah.
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:10.719
Group style.
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:11.039
Yeah.
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.159
And he's like, I'm going to be doing it group style out there, Shakespeare.
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:14.639
Exactly.
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.119
So don't save room in your heart for me.
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:18.400
And he's like, okay, that's great.
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:19.760
I'm going to go into these woods.
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:21.679
I'm going to go into these gender-bending woods.
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:28.639
Well, I think what maybe what we can see is that we, you know, in classic sequel territory, we have to give our character kind of a hard reset.
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:28.880
Okay.
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:32.079
We have to like take away their powers a little bit and then restore them.
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.440
Um, so I think what we can see is that he's like, Yeah, of course, love.
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:36.239
Go, go, go, go.
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:38.480
Or maybe she was a fem bot the whole time.
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:41.199
Yes, that's better.
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:42.480
Sees of Embol.
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.760
She's gonna make job please.
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:50.800
Yes, okay.
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:51.280
So actually.
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:05.679
I like Pepsi.
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:07.760
I like Coke.
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.159
Um, so I think that's a better opening.
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:10.480
Yeah.
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:14.960
So she's a fembot, um, but a Shakespeare fembot, so it's like steampunk.
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:15.599
Yeah.
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:18.800
Um, and uh, she shoots tomatoes out of her.
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:23.360
Yeah, yeah, he's gonna avoid them, they're like rotten tomatoes, and it's like blah blah blah blah blah.
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:29.920
And then uh at the end, you know, like Harvey Weinstein like presses the button and it self-destructs her.
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:30.800
Yes.
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:36.159
Um, and after she's like, he's like, Bye love, bye.
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.039
And she, oh no, no, she's not getting on a jet plane.
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:40.880
She's uh she's a femme bot.
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:42.159
Get on.
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:53.599
He truly is like after the dance sequence credits, you see he was like elated in performance, but then we see him in private, and he's heartbroken.
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:54.719
Distraught, yeah.
00:42:54.960 --> 00:43:01.039
And he's got this like list of favorites that it's like the tragedy of the femme bot, and it's like crossed out.
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:03.920
Like you can't, he's like, No one's gonna believe this, you know.
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.480
It doesn't have anything to do with human connection.
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:07.360
Yeah.
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:19.360
And um I my my idea was then we see like kind of his recovery, but his recovery is mostly sexual in nature.
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:26.960
He's trying to reclaim what he had with her, but it's it's all in like a shallow surface level.
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:43.039
So the first thing that we see is that he's like very attracted to a toaster, like another kind of like slim young woman, like uh slightly androgynous, and he like asks the young woman to like wear a mustache.
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.320
Oh, and she's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, I'll do it, I'll do it.
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:56.159
But then, and like maybe he's like wooing her with words that eventually um will be put into act four, scene one of As You Like It.
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:59.760
Yeah, and she and maybe she responds with like a couple of the flirty ones in.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.639
He's like, Yeah, and then he like writes it down, and then you see him like cross it off, and he's like, No, that's not good.
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:16.079
And then you see him in the next scene, and he's like out at a pub, and there's a young man who actually has a mustache and is like kind of small and more effeminine and androgynous.
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:29.280
And then you see them in the back alley and they're like making out oh my god, and they're saying the words of the flirting Orlando and Rosalind to each other, and then he like that, he's like, Oh, that line is better than the other line that she says.
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:33.840
He runs into the bathroom and starts like writing it, quelling it out quickly.
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.159
Yeah, like a notes app, you know, for him.
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:44.719
And also it's like because Shakespeare often referred to like his own name and also like the pen um as kind of like metaphors for a cock.
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:51.840
Um, when he rushes into the bathroom after he like had this dalliance with a young man, it's also like he's furiously beating off.
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:52.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:56.239
But more like cuter, you know, not like not weird.
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:57.440
It is weird.
00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:58.159
This is weird.
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:03.280
Oh, he's a sex is that he is using sex as his his muse.
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:03.840
Yes.
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:04.480
Oh my god.
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:05.840
Instead of love.
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.400
Oh this is the through line, shoot.
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:15.039
Oh and then the next scene we see him like maybe with a more mask woman.
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:15.679
Okay.
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:16.000
Okay.
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:24.000
So it's a crank or um he's got his day horny to like keep writing.
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:25.039
Yes, yes.
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:29.679
And also just to like, you know, erase the memory of Fembot.
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:30.239
Yeah, yeah.
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:31.440
Cause a lot to go through.
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:32.320
Okay, okay.
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:33.039
I like it, I like it.
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:34.880
So it's escalating, it's escalating.
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:35.280
Yeah.
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:42.000
Um and so like what could be, because like, you know, they're they're like flirting, and we can probably see some of those lines.
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:59.360
Um but uh you know, Rosalind um uh says like now tell me how long you would have her after you have possessed her, and Orlando responds, Forever and a day.
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:03.119
And Rosalind as Ganymede says, say a day without ever.
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:12.559
No, no, Orlando, men are April when they woo, December when they wed, maids are May when they are maids, but the sky changes when they are wives.
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:18.559
Um, you know, I think there's like probably somebody that maybe rebukes him in this.
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:19.119
Yeah.
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.320
Like, what could that character be?
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:37.840
Who sets him down and says, like, this is not like I can fuck you, I can be your friend, I can be your lover, but like what you're looking for right now is unhealthy, and I cannot be your band-aid or something.
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:39.119
Yeah, yes.
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:43.679
They're giving that like that whole um ecclesiastes thing.
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:56.480
They're like the this the people in your life for seasons, and everything that happens is for a reason, and mom's keeps on praying and keep believing in Jesus, and one day that she sees him.
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:58.719
Uh show it to me.
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:00.480
Yes, show it to me, right?
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:02.079
Yes, yes, yes.
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:03.599
So this is the thing.
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:08.159
It's and I'm and I just quoted Kanye West there because I think he is Jesus.
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:14.880
Yeah, and it's a similar thing because when he apparently when he made the Yeezus album, he was only looking at porn.
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:15.679
You know what I mean?
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.280
And that explains why it's weird.
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:18.639
He was Don Johnning it.
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:20.400
He was Don Johnning it, dude.
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:29.920
So like he's gotta have that character that's you know that's there to to to to guide him, not give him what he's looking for, but to guide him.
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:38.320
Um in true kind of like 90s Weinstein energy, should we make it like a magic black person?
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:39.920
I was actually thinking that.
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.800
I was thinking like a bagger van's person.
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.440
It's like the janitor at the globe.
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.960
Yeah, or I literally was thinking bagger van.
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:52.400
I was thinking it was like a like a golf professional.
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:56.079
It's like teaching him his swing, you know?
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:58.559
Weinstein loves his magic black man.
00:47:58.719 --> 00:47:59.440
Yeah, yeah.
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:01.920
So maybe we could do that.
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:07.119
Um what other kind of good um characters could it be?
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:23.119
I was thinking like in Don John, you get Julianne Moore, who kind of like steps in and is like a slightly mothery figure, but one that he can fuck, and who's like, hey, tenderness and like romance is also sexy?
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:23.440
Yeah.
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.599
You know, not just a big fat jersey ass like Scarlett Johansson has.
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:27.840
Right.
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:35.920
But like you can like you can have a healthy sexual relationship with somebody, you know.
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.880
Now, do you think that we should bring this back to like the Shakespeare element?
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:43.679
You know, like maybe that time period or something.
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:46.400
Like, what do you mean?
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:48.559
Like the type of like archetype of character?
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:52.159
Yeah, like maybe is it like someone in like the royal family or something?
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:53.920
It's like a tutor or something.
00:48:54.239 --> 00:49:02.639
Yeah, I c I was just thinking kind of a um I'm I'm at a loss for his name right now, but uh like a Peter O'Toole type.
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:10.159
Yeah, like just a very like air you died and kind of smommy older daddy figure.
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:11.039
Yes, yeah.
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:18.400
Who can say, like, listen, I'll guide you through the world, but not if you're just going to use my pets, like you know.
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:35.519
Maybe, or it's like it's like call me by your name, where the dad is like an archaeologist, like he's like an early archaeologist and he's like discovered Stonehenge or something, and he's like, I'm trying to unlock the secrets of the druids, and that gives me my energy.
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.079
And Shakespeare's like, Yes, yes, tell me about the druids.
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:44.880
And he's like, I can't tell you about the druids because the druids were too busy living life to write anything down.
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:58.719
And maybe this um actually inspires one of Shakespeare's most iconic and I think famous jesters in all of his writing, Touchstone.
00:49:58.960 --> 00:49:59.760
Yeah, Touchstone.
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.760
Maybe this is a touchstone character.
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.519
A little goofball, a little goofy ball.
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:10.320
A goofball, but one who, beyond so many of his other gestures, actually just speaks truth.
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.360
You know, who wonderful like his his comedy is there, right?
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:22.000
But mostly he's just like speaking very like truisms very poetically.
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.719
You know, and that's why he is touchstone.
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:25.519
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:37.119
Like a I'm trying to think of an archetype for somebody that would say shit like that in uh in today's world, but it is kind of like an archetype, like the uh the the norm of this cheers.
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:43.519
Yeah, um like a slight elevation from your Clint, of course.
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.519
Uh Clint is a bit more base, right?
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.400
Whereas Touchstone, I think, is relatively like royal um in his presentation.
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:56.559
Um I was thinking a close example that I would have would be like a Hannibal Lecter.
00:50:56.719 --> 00:51:01.360
Oh who feels very erudite, but has a ton of comedy, you know.
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:03.280
Is that Fraser?
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:04.639
Would that be that?
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:11.840
Ooh, uh yeah, maybe a Niles Crane, but Niles is a bit more of the like the goofy jester, the Pratt falls and such.
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:12.239
Right.
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:16.800
Whereas, yeah, maybe a Fraser, maybe even his dad, maybe Fraser's dad.
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.719
Oh, did kind of just like say simple things very plainly.
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:21.599
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:32.639
So you're telling me that you, you know, you would say some Frazier would say something very crazy about uh psychology, and and the dad would be like, So you're basically talking about, you know, crossing the street.
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:42.400
I'm going to, for the our upcoming show, write down that I'm going to write an episode of Fraser as Shakespeare.
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:43.039
Oh, yeah.
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:44.320
Dude, that totally works, dude.
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:44.480
Yeah.
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:46.000
It's goofy goofball.
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:51.519
You know, Fraser's dad obviously speaks in prose, uh, very simple sentences.
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:52.079
Yes.
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:53.360
Um, you know, who else?
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:54.239
We've got Eddie.
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:58.000
We can probably have a few like a soliloquy, a secret soliloquy from Eddie.
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:00.400
Yeah, or like a soliloquy about Eddie.
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:04.480
You know, he's like the dog that everybody like fucking talks about.
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:12.880
And then of course, um, you've got Roz, the no, you know, the uh the no bullshit lady that's like, I'll tell you how it is.
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.480
You know, I'll tell you how it is.
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:19.519
Eddie, baseless, brawnless, barkless, Eddie.
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.440
You torment me every day.
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:26.960
Um tortured by Eddie.
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:27.360
He is.
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:28.400
You ever watch Fraser?
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.960
Yeah, I did I know, but like he doesn't want to kill it.
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:33.199
He doesn't want to like telltale heart Eddie.
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:34.079
He doesn't want to kill him.
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:34.880
Eddie.
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:35.519
Eddie.
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:41.199
Um Shabley, the most beautiful of all vines.
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:42.880
Bouger.
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:47.840
Not quite a burgundy, but it will get there someday.
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:48.719
Yes.
00:52:49.119 --> 00:53:08.400
Um, all right, so I think yeah, we introduce this kind of like um guide figure who like helps Shakespeare understand his own um journey right now into queerness, and also helps like open his heart and say, like, hey, I see that you need love, but you're not looking for love.
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:12.000
You're looking to like fill that hole that love was looking for.
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:13.599
Yeah, and I I do maybe we'll keep it.
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:19.519
I said archaeology, but maybe he he owns like a curiosity shop, kind of like in you know, the original Shakespearean Love.
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:25.760
He's got like all these curiosities, and he's like, I'm I've been looking for you know the secret to the ancient past all the time.
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.360
But what I've realized, it's the journey that makes it all worth it, you know.
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:31.280
Maybe his name is like Curio.
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:32.320
Curio, yes.
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:41.360
Yeah, and then and then it's like when people saw the Odyssey and they're like, It's crazy that his mentor's name is Mentor, and you're like, Well that's where that's where it came from, dude.
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:43.920
Mentor got there first, yeah.
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:57.360
Yeah, um, so it's like Curio, and then Shakespeare's like, Oh, these Curio City, Curiosity, Curio City, and then we teach the audience that Shakespeare invented the word curiosity.
00:53:57.679 --> 00:53:59.119
Yes, yeah, that's and it's true.
00:53:59.440 --> 00:53:59.679
It's true.
00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:01.039
It had to be true.
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:03.119
What's the other explanation?
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:04.159
What is the other explanation?
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:18.239
Okay, so I think that's kind of like our act one like major focus point is like we see this scene, we see him developing the scene of like starting to flirt with other gender and other like sexual orientation.
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:18.800
Yeah.
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:25.840
Um, maybe one night like he shaves his mustache and puts on a wig and goes out and gets pegged like a sissy.
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.360
You know, and we see that in like great detail.
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:38.719
Yeah, he's in a he's in a grimy London back street, like it's all curved and fucking looks like Diagon Alley.
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:39.119
Yes.
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.320
And he's getting railed by a Hagrid type.
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.840
A Hagrid type bops out of nowhere and guts him.
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:47.920
Uh exant pursued by bear.
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.440
Pursued by bear! Pursued by Hagrid who is a bear.
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:52.880
Who could be a bear?
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:53.840
Could be a bear at Little Winter.
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:56.159
I'd say with at his height, he's a Kodiak.
00:54:58.320 --> 00:54:59.840
And that's when Kuriel finds him.
00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:03.280
He's like, Oh, I see you've you know, I see you've fallen over yourself, lad.
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:06.480
I just want to explain that because probably a lot of people aren't.
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:12.639
Is there's a part in in um Winter's Tale where uh there's a very famous line called Exit Pursuit by Bear.
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:17.360
Um it's kind of like the Jesus story where he set a bear upon a bunch of children when they pissed him off.
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:18.559
It's goofy, goofy.
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:18.719
Yeah.
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:24.800
I've been yeah, there's some weird, um there's some weird Bible stuff too, like some translations, Bible stuff.
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:28.480
Do you know what like Jacob um who famously wrestled God?
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:30.239
Yeah, well, an angel.
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:31.199
But that's the thing.
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:32.079
It says a man.
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:32.960
It does say a man.
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:35.119
It says a man came out of nowhere and got him.
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:35.440
Yeah.
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:37.119
And they wrestled all night.
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:40.639
That's all it says.
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:41.280
Yeah.
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:44.159
Um so maybe that happens to our guy.
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:54.400
I think what uh what a lot of people, especially because I was very into kind of um like reading the actual translation, I forget what they call it.
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:56.719
I I don't know either, but I know but I know what you're saying.
00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:00.480
It's like the ones that are there's like the ones that are Aramaic and there's the ones that are Greek.
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:01.119
Yeah.
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:05.599
And I owned a Bible that was like the no-fear Shakespeare of the Bible.
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:06.079
Exactly.
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:16.639
Where it was like this word actually means um like father or master, but people over time have translated it or into this word.
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:17.280
Context.
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:18.400
Yeah, context.
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:21.280
Um I used to be really into that.
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:23.599
And so why were we talking?
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:25.840
Oh, uh exit and purpose, who'd by bear.
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:26.719
What happened after that?
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:35.280
I said, oh, because it's like the uh the translations when you said Jesus said like a set of bear on them, and I was like, there's a lot of stuff in the Bible that's kind of goofy like that.
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:41.760
I meant to say Jesus because there's that part in that album where Kanye's like, fuck these little kids.
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:43.599
Yeah, fuck these little kids.
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:48.400
I can hold my liquor, but this man can't handle his me.
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:50.159
Softly wounded now.
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.079
Holy fuck who comes a bear.
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:54.960
I'm a bear.
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:57.519
So hurry up with my damn bear.
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.480
So, um, second part that I had in mind.
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:00.800
Yep.
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:03.119
What we see then Shakespeare start to heal.
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:10.639
And as we see this, we maybe like um cut to like an old New York, or no, let's put it in jolly old London town.
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:11.599
Or old York.
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:14.159
Yes, old York as they know it.
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:20.960
Um, where we see Billy, and Billy is like really frustrated in a rehearsal.
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:32.800
Maybe this is where we first start to see like a general overlap is Shakespeare is at rehearsal and he's like trying to work out this new play, and he just like can't get it.
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:34.960
No, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:37.920
And then we c we see like no, no, no, no, no.
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:47.440
And it's Billy yelling at some people in rehearsal, and he's like, It's this scene, it's the Rosalind Act Four, you know, scene one or whatever.
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:50.480
And he's like, Where's the fucking chemistry?
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:52.239
Like, where what's happening here?
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:57.119
You don't understand that she is who she is saying that she isn't, you know, and all this stuff.
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.320
And the actors are just like perplexed.
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:10.880
He has so many like academic thoughts about like what this play should be about, and he's like trying to and failing miserably to communicate them that to his actors.
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:15.280
Yeah, because they're like they're so frustrated because they're like, I I don't understand what you're trying to say.
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:26.239
And he's like, he's like, you know, this is all about society and like and gender and and and how it's it's it's it it's a construct and how and how we communicate in these different things.
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.920
And the actors are like, Am I am I flirting with them or am I not?
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:30.639
You know what I mean?
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:31.840
Yes, exactly.
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:36.400
And and then maybe he gets like so frustrated that he's like, It's in the fucking text.
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:37.840
Trust the fucking text.
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:43.119
And he like storms off, and then one of them looks at the other one, and they're like, Yeah, fucking take your own advice.
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:45.920
Oh yeah.
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:47.599
Oh my god, yes.
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:52.079
And then there's one character that keeps like wanting to eat a banana in the scene for no reason.
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:54.079
Yes, and it's Brad Pett.
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:57.599
And he brings out the banana and he's like, Well, can we try the banana scene again?
00:58:57.760 --> 00:58:58.239
You know what I mean?
00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:04.480
Wait, because he runs away, or the director storms out, so he's like, now it's my time to little sprinkle comedy in there.
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:06.800
Do you think that's like the best friend?
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:07.679
Yeah.
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:10.320
Well, I think also they really want to eat a banana in the scene.
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:10.719
Yes.
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:11.760
You know.
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:12.480
Yeah.
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:14.639
Can I eat my fucking banana now?
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:14.960
Yeah.
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:16.559
I feel like it gives me energy.
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:16.880
Yeah.
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:17.280
Yeah.
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:20.400
So anyway, that it storms out, and then we'll go back to Shakespeare time.
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:26.480
Well, um, what I had was uh oh shit.
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:27.199
Oh shit.
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:27.760
Okay.
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:36.719
So um what I had next was um the epilogue of As You Like It, which is read by Rosalind.
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:42.079
Uh, if you wouldn't mind pulling up the epilogue, do you feel ready to read some Shakespeare?
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.000
Yeah, dude, absolutely.
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:57.599
Um, but I thought about like maybe, you know, we watch this guy and Shakespeare's life kind of like overlapped and their frustrations parallel each other and all this stuff, and that's mostly the meat of the movie.
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:04.159
This is a big chunk of our act, um, like one into two is is is them.
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:27.119
And then there is a moment that Billy starts to have his own revelation about what this play is and how he has been approaching it you know incorrectly um by like overanalyzing it and like not trusting the text or whatever it is.
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:33.360
And this might be our stage cross moment with our Billy and William.
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:36.400
It could be, but I don't think it has to be.
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:42.639
But I think this is a good thing that kind of like informs the thesis once again of our movie.
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:44.400
Uh Jude, if you wouldn't mind.
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:46.000
Yes, yeah, okay.
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:54.719
Um It is not the fashion to see the lady the epilogue, but it is no more unhandsome than to see the Lord the prologue.
01:00:54.960 --> 01:01:00.239
If it be true that good wine needs no bush, 'tis true that a good play needs no epilogue.
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:06.800
Yet to good wine they do use good bushes, and good plays prove the better by the help of good epilogues.
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:15.440
What a case am I, and then that am neither a good epilogue, nor cannot insinuate with you in the behalf of a good play.
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:20.000
I'm not furnished like a beggar, therefore to beg will not become me.
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:23.920
My way is to conjure you, and I'll begin with the women.
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:38.000
I charge you, O women, for the love you bear to men, to like as much of this play as please you and I charge you, O men, for the love you bear to women, as I perceive by your simpering not of you hates them.
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:42.320
Oh yeah, that between you and the women the play may please.
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:58.239
If I were a woman, I would kiss as many of you as had beards that please me, complexions that like me, and breaths that I defied not, and I am sure as many have good beards or good faces or sweet breaths will for my kind offer when I make curtsy bid me farewell.
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:00.320
Really excellent cold read of that.
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:01.519
Oh, thank you, thank you.
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:20.639
Um I so just for anybody, in that I see so much playful um nature in just the fact that like the epilogue of this play is saying, like, hey, you probably don't see a woman often in epilogues, um, and it's probably not a good play if you do.
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:24.880
Um and uh but is it any worse than seeing a man in the prologue?
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:37.599
And it's a kind of stand-up, and then she does this very stupid thing where she's like, Hey, if you didn't like some of this, just think about how much you love the woman that you came with, and like let that love fill in the parts you didn't like.
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:42.559
Yeah, she says the vet, hey, if there's any of this you didn't like, think about how much you love women.
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:48.079
Yeah, and let that be like, think of all the you know I'll come out and smooch you, I'll give you a little something for daddy later on.
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:55.840
Yeah, so she's basically saying, like, hey, even if this place sucked, just because you love love, like, give it up for love.
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:57.280
Yeah, let's give it up for love.
01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:58.480
Let's hear for love.
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:04.480
Um, and uh, you know, this is also famous for the if I were a woman moment.
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:09.840
Um, and I think, like, where do you see this happening in the movie?
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:11.360
Oh boy, it's hard.
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:16.400
Okay, so it the first thing it made me think of was I used to like the show Friday Night Lights.
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:17.840
I still like the show Friday Night Lights.
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:18.719
Jesse Plemins.
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.079
Jesse Plemens um and uh Kyle Chandler.
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:22.880
Yeah, okay.
01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:28.079
But there was an episode where Kyle Chandler's daughter drives drunk or with a drunk driver.
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:38.079
Oh no and the episode ends, and then at the end, it's the actress playing the daughter in the episode, and she's like, Hey guys, it's Kirsten Dunst, whatever her name is.
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.119
And she's like, I just want to say you drunk driving is not cool.
01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:42.000
It's not okay.
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:46.079
I know it happened in the episode, but it's not okay for you to do it in real life.
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:49.599
So like they gave like a drunk driving PSA on this like NBC show.
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:51.679
That used to happen way more often.
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:53.519
I know, and they don't do it anymore.
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:54.320
No, they don't.
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:57.039
Because drugs are cool now, drunk driving is fine.
01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:57.840
Yes.
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:02.800
Okay, because it yeah, or you know, you could get in your fucking Waymo and go wherever you want.
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:11.199
Um, but in this play, do you think, oh, do you think it's the two William and Billy together?
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:24.880
Well, this is this is this was what I was originally thinking was this was maybe like our stage cross moment where like they reverberate throughout history and both of them like kind of start to move in the positive direction towards what they're saying.
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:33.199
Because like what I think what um Billy can get from this monologue is that like stop worrying about the text.
01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:37.360
It's a silly play, um, about kind of a silly thing.
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:41.519
And like, even if you think it's very important, that's on you.
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:48.320
That's on you, and let that drive you, but don't let it, you know, steer you uh into a disaster.
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:50.880
Yeah, don't let it like affect the play.
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:53.199
The play is the play, is the play is the play.
01:04:53.840 --> 01:05:00.480
And the play will be the play, and you can't break that play unless you you know just steamroll it.
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.599
Yeah, and forget about the fucking play.
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:06.639
And I think that could be that moment for Billy.
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:16.159
Um maybe it's also that moment for Shakespeare, too, is like he's really like, I can't figure out like how do I end this.
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:18.079
And maybe that yeah.
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:42.000
Or maybe it's like uh um Billy is like trying to come up with this like new play after this, you know, it's it's like him alone in the theater, and he like finishes a monologue that he's writing, and it comes out of his heart, you know, it's like really coming from the heart, and he's alone in the theater and he's writing it down as he's saying it, and then like he looks over in the back of like the black box theater and he just sees like you know, like William.
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:42.800
Oh my god.
01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:44.480
He's he's in the audience.
01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:47.360
Okay, and then he's like, I have some notes.
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:59.039
Or you know, and it's like banner, banner, banner, banner, bow no time's gone today.
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:04.800
Oh, that's good.
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:05.440
Yeah.
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:14.079
Um, yeah, so I think that's kind of like our our our middle scene is we we see the end of the play.
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:26.960
Um and and maybe like yeah, maybe Shakespeare's realizing that like he doesn't need to like he can both have fun and find new love at the same time or something like that.
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:27.920
Yeah.
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:36.159
Um maybe he realizes that like hey, uh theater it's mostly for fun.
01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:38.639
Stop like using it like therapy.
01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:41.360
Yes, I I'm yeah I agree.
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:43.360
I can I just tell you a story that's really funny.
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:44.000
Of course.
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:50.400
Okay, so in the theater department where I went to college at Florida State, the head of the theater department is still there.
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:54.320
His name is Fred Chapel, and he's like 87 years old.
01:06:54.639 --> 01:07:04.960
He's like, and he he is he is an old seven, he used to be the artistic director of the Alliance Theater, and he always smokes Virginia Slims, you know, along with the little talks like this.
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:20.159
And um one of you know my friends and my friend Walter's friend, um, he was in directing school and he was directing his thesis play uh with Fred Chapel, and Fred Chapel was like, and it was it was Amadeus.
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:27.760
And the thing about Fred is that he back then when this happened, he was probably like 63.
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:30.480
So this was like 20 something years ago.
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:48.000
Um, and Jeff is is there and he's directing Amadeus, and it's opening night, and he's playing Solieri, and he goes out and he's like nervous and he gives like the first line and he goes like the because the first line is like Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
01:07:48.079 --> 01:08:04.960
That's like what Solieri says, and Fred goes, Wolfgang Amadeus Beethoven, like just out of nowhere, and then he goes like this is a really bad like fuck up, yeah.
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:18.960
Which like which guys the first line of the play is Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, and he goes like Wolfgang Amadeus Beethoven, and then he goes in the back and Jeff is there, and he's like gonna tell him, like, he's gonna be like, Fred, it's okay, it's fine.
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:22.159
This is fucking Tallahassee, it's fine, no one cares.
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:27.680
And and Fred just goes, Daddy is not happy.
01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:30.000
Oh god.
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:34.960
But Fred, if you're there, if you're listening to this, I'm so sorry for everything that I've done.
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.640
He was he didn't say daddy is not happy on stage, right?
01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:47.039
No, no, he said it uh like backstage to Jeff because Jeff was going back there to like comfort him, and he just goes, Daddy.
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:50.000
Oh my god, Jordan, are you okay?
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:54.560
Jordan just tried to open the window and then the um the blinds fell down and hit him.
01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:55.600
Are you okay?
01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:56.399
Are you actually hurt?
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:57.520
No, okay, good.
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:00.319
I got a little scared there for a minute.
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:01.840
Oh, thank you.
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:10.880
Um, so Daddy is not happy.
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:34.960
Do you ever that happens so often when I like tell stories though, is like I just forget like the most obvious fact of the story, like why I was telling it, or like the crux, or like who this person was, or I'll be need to say like Einstein, and I'll be like the guy, the big The guy that we talk about.
01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:35.840
Yeah, yeah.
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:50.079
And the other thing too is like he probably hadn't acted since his 40s or something, and he's been teaching for 30 years, you know, and then he's like, Oh yeah, I'll do a play, and then he's like, Oh, I'm actually nervous, you know.
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:56.079
Um but all right, so I think I think that we're that's in a good spot that last.
01:09:56.239 --> 01:10:09.039
And then Jude, um I think maybe we end with one of As You Like It's most famous additions to the Shakespeare Canon.
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:10.560
Can you guess what that might be?
01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:15.439
As you like it's most famous addition to the Shakespeare Canon, like a like a monologue or a character?
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:17.119
It is a monologue, yes.
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:21.039
Oh, uh it's uh it's spoken by Jacques.
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:24.239
I don't know it.
01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:25.279
Honestly, I don't know it.
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:31.359
So I think I think this could be maybe like Billy steps onto stage.
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:38.720
Maybe one of the actors drops out, maybe in true director fashion, he just forces one out um and says, I could do this better.
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:39.279
Yeah.
01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:49.840
And he comes out maybe in like a dress, or maybe just a more androgynous like look and performance of his gender expression.
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:50.399
Mm-hmm.
01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:54.880
And he says, All the world's a stage.
01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:55.600
Oh, yeah.
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:58.640
And all the men and women merely players.
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:05.359
They have their exits and their entrances, meaning pussies, asses, cocks, mouths, all that stuff.
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:07.680
Yeah, and there's like a slideshow behind him at Jimmy.
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:16.560
And one man in his time plays many parts, and then it's like a guy in a bukaki, like jerking off the biggest.
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:18.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:21.760
His axe being seven ages.
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:28.159
At first the infant muling and puking in the nurse's arms, and that's like maybe like a mommy fetish thing.
01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:30.800
Yeah, with a full-on adult male and a diaper.
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:31.119
Yeah.
01:11:31.279 --> 01:11:31.600
Yes.
01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:40.239
And then the whining schoolboy with his satchel and shining morning face creeping like snail unwillingly to school.
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:41.199
That's easy.
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:41.760
Yeah.
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:42.880
Ruler.
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:43.600
Yes.
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:44.159
Spank.
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:46.720
Going to Catholic school nuns.
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:47.680
Yes.
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:50.800
Um, and then the lover.
01:11:50.880 --> 01:12:00.640
Oh, maybe this is where like his eyes delight on uh the ancestor of Shakespeare's lover in the audience, and their eyes sparkle together.
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:04.800
Yeah, and they both have like the same birthmark, but it's like on opposite cheeks.
01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:12.319
Sighing like furnace with a woeful ballad made to his mistress's eyebrow.
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:13.680
Then a soldier.
01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:24.800
And then we start to see documentary footage of like Stonewall and all these, you know, great moments of protest and riot in LGBTQ history.
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:27.439
Yeah, Harvey Milk, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:28.800
Yes, yes.
01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:36.720
Um, full of strange oaths and bearded like the pod, jealous in honor, sudden and quick in quarrel.
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:39.359
We see the brick hitting the cop car.
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:40.960
We see Marsha P.
01:12:41.119 --> 01:13:00.800
Johnson um on uh posters all over the city, seeking the bubble reputation even in the canon's mouth, and then the justice, and then we see Obama sign gay marriage into law as few as as soon ago, how do I say this?
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:05.680
As it it only happened in 2016, Jude.
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:06.479
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:17.439
Isn't that crazy to think about in the canon of our lives that gay marriage, which just feels like a normal human thing, only was legalized in 2016.
01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:18.560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:20.479
Four years before the pandemic.
01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:20.960
Yeah.
01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:21.680
Oh yeah, yeah.
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:24.479
Though for they're they're definitely trying to get rid of it too, I'm sure.
01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:34.159
It's been less time, it's been so much less time since gay marriage was legalized than 9-11 happened, and in my lifetime, it's like the same.
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:34.720
Yeah.
01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:36.640
You know, when I like think about it.
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:37.680
That's crazy.
01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:38.399
It really is.
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:39.680
It is crazy.
01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:50.560
Uh so we see, and we see the intern or whatever, like the the you know, capital page boy running across, you know, uh DC to deliver that that note.
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:52.479
Yeah, and then he collapsed and dies.
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:55.039
And they name a race after him.
01:13:55.279 --> 01:14:06.239
In fair round belly with good cape in lined, with eyes severe and beard of formal cut full of wise saws and modern instances, and so he plays his part.
01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:13.920
The sixth stage shifts into the lean and slippered pantaloon with spectacles on nose and pouch on side.
01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:27.039
And maybe this is maybe when we see like an Obi-Wan Kenobi style um ghost of Curio, and he's like looking over at Shakespeare's ghost, and he's like, See, remember what we did together, boy.
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:38.399
His youthful hose well saved, a world too wide for his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice turning again towards childless treble pipes and whistles in his sound.
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:40.640
And he's like, Oh, you got me with that one.
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:41.520
Yes, yes.
01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:50.880
Last scene of all that ends this strange, eventful history is second childishness and mere oblivion.
01:14:51.279 --> 01:15:05.760
Sans teeth, San's eyes, San's taste, and as as they're doing this, maybe we see like um after the show and them in the dressing room taking off their makeup and revealing just their own naked face again.
01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:07.520
Sans everything.
01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:11.600
Yeah, you can even see like the you know, those that went before them, like the like the AIDS victims.
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:17.039
AIDS victims in a mirror are like sitting there and they're like, We we you know, we went through this before you.
01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:26.960
Yeah, maybe there's like a mirror shift where they like move their mirror and then we see the reflection in the mirror behind them, and you get that like bouncing effect where you just see ad infinitum faces in mirrors.
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:40.399
Yeah, but it's it's uh like queer people through history through through history that have died and horrible all the way back, and then he shifts it just a tiny bit, and he sees that you know, a hundred back is William Shakespeare.
01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:48.000
Yeah, and then he just gives him like a big thumbs up in the back, and they all give them like the dumbo drop, like the okay sign.
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:50.399
We're gonna be alright.
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:52.399
We're gonna be all right.
01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:53.760
I think this is the movie.
01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:54.640
That's great.
01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:56.079
It's really good.
01:15:56.399 --> 01:16:01.279
This is uh Billy and William, um, a Shakespeare tale.
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.560
Um pretty much off the dome, completely riffed, so good.
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:07.439
Yeah.
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.039
Um, Jude, this is what I love about writing with you.
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:14.399
You not only like um support me, but you also inspire.
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.359
I mean, the the Austin Powers opening.
01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:25.920
Dude, that's what it well, I you know the first thing I was gonna say, but it wasn't it was anachronistic, was like they were going on an airplane, they're going through security.
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:26.319
Yeah.
01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:30.560
And then um uh Gwyneth Paltrow goes through and it's like beep, beep, beep.
01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:33.039
I'm like, ma'am, please, do you have any jewelry on?
01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:34.960
She takes it off, so beep, beep, beep, beep.
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:40.000
And then he puts the metal detector over her breasts and it's like beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:41.840
And then that's the machine gun jumplies.
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:42.159
Yes.
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.479
Um, Gwyneth Paltrow.
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:51.760
Where'd she hide those machine gun jumblies?
01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:53.600
Where's she hiding the machine gun jumblies?
01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:55.279
I didn't even want to say that out loud.
01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:57.840
Alright, Jude, we have to do a quick segment now.
01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:01.359
Um, I have just handed to you uh a stack of cards.
01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:02.159
Yes.
01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:06.319
Um, what's on those cards um we will reveal soon enough.
01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:10.800
Um, but this is a Shakespeare-themed cards against humanity ripoff.
01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:11.359
Oh, okay.
01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:13.199
What do you think it's called?
01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:20.960
Oh, um, Cards Against Humanity uh Against.
01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:23.600
I don't know.
01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:26.479
It's called Bards Dispense Profanity.
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:27.680
Oh my god!
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:31.199
So we're gonna do a little uh 1v1.
01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:32.720
We'll do a couple rounds of this.
01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:35.600
Uh works in classic cards against humanity fashion.
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:46.800
The yellow card is going to have like a prompt, and then we are both going to put down uh an answer from a hand of let's say like five that we think is the best.
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:47.359
Okay.
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:49.199
Um, you know, let's do it quick.
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:51.119
We don't need to agonize over it.
01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:56.800
Uh we'll switch off who who um and then we'll vote because we're we're fair.
01:17:56.960 --> 01:17:58.479
We will, I don't just want to win.
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:00.159
I want to see what the funniest answer is.
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:01.119
Yeah, of course.
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:01.760
Okay.
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:05.039
I majored in business, but I minored in blank.
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.560
So obviously the yellow cards are not Shakespeare themed.
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:09.439
Right.
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:12.800
Um, I've already got mine, I think.
01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:13.920
Uh uh.
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:17.600
Oh, I got a good one.
01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:18.239
I got a good one.
01:18:18.319 --> 01:18:18.560
Okay.
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:19.439
Okay, ready?
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:19.920
Yeah.
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:26.640
Um I majored in business, but I minored in Mother's Flesh.
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:31.199
Very apropos to what we were speaking about.
01:18:31.359 --> 01:18:35.680
Um, I majored in business, but I minored in the circumcised dog.
01:18:36.079 --> 01:18:37.359
Oh, I think you win.
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:37.840
I know.
01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:38.640
I just like that.
01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:41.439
Yeah, that's from Othello 5 2.
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:42.560
Hi, Jordan wins.
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:44.319
The circumcised dog is funnier.
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:44.800
Okay.
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:46.159
Mother's Flesh is a good card.
01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:47.039
That is a good card.
01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:47.279
Here.
01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:48.079
Sorry.
01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:54.640
Okay, so this one is the title of a best-selling memoir later revealed to be fabricated.
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:55.520
Ooh.
01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:01.439
The title of a best-selling memoir later revealed to be fabricated, kind of like um a million little pieces.
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:07.359
Okay, I've got mine.
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:10.000
Okay, what's yours?
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:11.760
Uh, give me the prompt once again.
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:15.680
Title of a best-selling memoir later revealed to be fabricated.
01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:18.159
The fellow with the great belly.
01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:19.760
Oh my god.
01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:24.640
If you fancy the Jonas Brothers, put away your belly.
01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:25.520
Yes.
01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:28.319
Or um the you know, fake Santa Claus.
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:28.800
Yeah.
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:29.279
Yeah, yeah.
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:33.600
Um title of a best-selling memoir Later to be fabricated, a silly dwarf.
01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:35.039
Oh, I like a silly dwarf.
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:35.840
A swolly dwarf.
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:37.359
Yeah, let's say that one wins.
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:40.319
Um, that's the Peter Dinklage memoir.
01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:42.079
The Peter Dinklage memoir.
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:45.119
But then they find out that somebody wrote it with AI.
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:47.279
Uh Goodnight, good night.
01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:48.640
Okay, this is Shakespeare.
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:49.920
Good night, good night.
01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:52.560
Blank is such sweet sorrow.
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:54.000
Uh, okay.
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:04.960
Okay.
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:06.079
I'll go for my.
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:08.479
All right, good night, good night.
01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:12.640
A boil, a plague sore, an embossed carbuncle.
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:14.079
Is such sweet sorrow.
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:14.960
Yeah, not bad.
01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:20.640
Um, I'm I think I'll just give you the win on that because I have good night, good night, missing your meetings and appointments.
01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:22.159
Is such sweet sorrow.
01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:25.039
That's from the Merry Wives of Windsor 3 1.
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:27.039
Who could forget?
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:28.479
Oh, I just got a good one.
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:30.560
Okay, so let me read this one off here.
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:31.039
Let's see.
01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:34.239
Oh, here's just regular.
01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:34.720
Okay.
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:40.640
If a creepy guy won't leave me alone at a bar, I just start talking about blank until he leaves.
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:42.479
Works every time.
01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:49.520
So that's if a creepy guy won't leave me alone at a bar, I just start talking about blank until he leaves.
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:51.199
Works every time.
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:55.439
So this is one of those moments where I don't have any good cards.
01:20:55.760 --> 01:21:10.880
Um and it's it's crazy too, because like the overlap between cards against humanity and bards dispense profanity is pretty significant because we all know that Shakespeare was the first one to say Hitler with AIDS.
01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:12.560
Uh uh, what was it?
01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:13.520
Helen Keller.
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:15.199
A bigger blacker dick.
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:16.159
Yes, yeah.
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:16.720
Yes.
01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:17.199
Yeah, yeah.
01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:19.760
That's how he got his his rocks off.
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:20.479
Yeah.
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:24.159
Um, so it's strange that I all of mine are so boring.
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:30.079
I I have um if a creepy guy won't leave me alone at the bar, I just start talking about a little yellow beard.
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:32.560
A little yellow beard.
01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:33.680
A little yellow beard.
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:38.079
Uh obviously she's talking about the pea stains on her pubic hair.
01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:41.359
That is true.
01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:47.840
I have uh if a guy starts talking to me at the bar, I just start talking about the weird sisters, the three weird sisters.
01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:49.119
Oh, the weird sisters.
01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:50.800
Obviously, from the Scottish plays.
01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:55.119
We'll do one more round of this because uh it's uh It does suck.
01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:55.920
It sucks.
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:57.840
Just like Cards Against Humanity.
01:21:58.000 --> 01:21:59.439
This game sucks.
01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:05.760
Um, Anna, I think, found this on the side of the street, speaking about books on the side of the street, and she went, Jordan likes Shakespeare.
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:07.359
He'll we'll play this game all the time.
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:09.920
And I was like, I don't like party games.
01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:12.960
Ah, she said Jordan loves bags of dog shit.
01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:14.720
Here's plenty.
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:22.640
We'll be holding you in We'll be holding you in an isolation chamber until we can rule out blank syndrome.
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:25.920
Uh Trump Trump derangement syndrome.
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:26.800
Oh my god.
01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:29.680
Uh talk about me as uh patient zero.
01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:34.159
Um I'll go with this one, little Richard the third one.
01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:34.640
You want to go?
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:35.680
Yeah, I got it.
01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:42.720
You'll we'll be holding you in an isolation chamber until we can rule out my uncle Clarence syndrome.
01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:44.239
That's really the third.
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:46.000
They put him in a jar.
01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:47.840
They put him in a like a pickle jar.
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:53.920
We'll be holding you in an isolation chamber until we can rule out more feet than shoes syndrome.
01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:57.359
That one should win because it sounds like a real disease.
01:22:57.680 --> 01:22:59.359
Yeah, like hoof in mouth.
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:00.640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:04.880
I've got more feet than shoes syndrome, and it's malignant.
01:23:05.279 --> 01:23:07.279
It has spread to MADOOS.
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:09.760
Alright, what's our last one, Jude?
01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:11.520
Okay, the last Juan.
01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:15.520
That's one of the Juan dressings.
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:16.239
Exactly.
01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:18.239
Southwestern dressing.
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:22.800
That was the last dressing Paul ever thought of in his in his laboratory.
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:24.159
The last Juan.
01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:24.800
Okay.
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:27.840
Uh the sign of true adult maturity.
01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:31.520
The sign of true adult maturity, colon.
01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:43.119
Uh okay.
01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:44.159
You got one?
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:45.359
Yeah, mine's bad.
01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:46.479
Mine's pretty bad, too.
01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:46.720
Okay.
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:47.760
We'll start with yours.
01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:49.520
The sign of true adult maturity.
01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:51.439
Ridiculous smiling.
01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:52.399
Oh, that's true.
01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:56.079
Okay, the sign of adult maturity, toes unplagued with corns.
01:23:56.239 --> 01:23:56.880
You get the corns.
01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:57.680
Yeah, that's true.
01:23:57.760 --> 01:23:58.640
You have health insurance.
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:01.039
You can get them uh cut off with a knife.
01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:01.840
Yeah.
01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:05.039
It does suck, yeah.
01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:07.359
Um, there's a ton more cards, though.
01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:10.239
Um, just in my hand, I'll I'll show you how bad they were.
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:13.920
Great, great lines because Shakespeare unabashedly goes.
01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:16.640
Well, this is how he was gonna do his plays at first.
01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:20.720
He was like, maybe I could come up with this um super involved card game.
01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:21.119
Yes.
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:29.119
Yeah, the only actually uh record we have of his handwriting is uh a prototype of cards against humanity that he was working on.
01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:32.880
Um this one I wanted to find a way to use, but it's what's this?
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:33.840
Mutton?
01:24:34.399 --> 01:24:38.560
Um I thought that was fun, but never a good prompt for it.
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:39.680
What's this mutton?
01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:40.399
What's this?
01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:41.279
Mutton?
01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:44.800
I've got um the I just looking at these is really good.
01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:46.560
Converting Jews to Christians.
01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:47.439
Pretty good one.
01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:49.359
That's a cards against humanity card.
01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:52.319
That's Merchant of Venice, uh, Sluts and Sluttery.
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:53.279
Now that's classic.
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:54.800
That's Mary Wives of Windsor.
01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:56.640
Sluts and Sluttery.
01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:00.479
So the Sooty Bosom from Markello.
01:25:01.279 --> 01:25:01.840
These are good.
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:03.039
The sooty bosom.
01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:04.239
My god, my god.
01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:07.279
Um that's the bigger blacker dick of Shakespeare.
01:25:07.840 --> 01:25:09.279
70 senators that died.
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:10.960
You can't take this one on a plane with you.
01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:12.079
Oh my god.
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:13.039
You know what I mean?
01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:14.640
Don't say that on the podcast.
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:15.279
You couldn't.
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:22.479
We not only do we believe every movie deserves a sequel, we believe that Mitch McConnell is alive.
01:25:22.720 --> 01:25:23.680
He's alive and well.
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:25.039
He's fine, everybody.
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:25.680
Dude, yes.
01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:27.119
Stop being weird about it.
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:29.039
I saw him skateboarding.
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:33.199
He actually was a guest on our upcoming podcast episode.
01:25:33.439 --> 01:25:34.640
He's one of the lost episodes.
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:37.840
He did a good 20-minute segment, but it just got lost.
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:38.880
He's like, you know what?
01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:42.640
My favorite sequel is the deuce bigelow.
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:45.359
They should make deuce big a lot.
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:46.960
Southern gigalow.
01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:50.399
A rare parrot teacher.
01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:53.439
You are a rare parrot teacher.
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:54.880
That's from Much Ado About Nothing.
01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:56.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:25:57.199 --> 01:25:58.159
He's talking.
01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:01.520
Okay, so that's the game Bards dispense profanity.
01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:08.640
Jude, we basically live uh streamed, live came up with a sequel to Shakespeare in Love.
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:09.520
That's pretty good.
01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:15.039
We are mostly writing these things on our lonesome, disp uh besides the initial pitch moment.
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:21.279
Um, and so I'm very uh excited to like get in the room and write something together with you.
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:22.239
Yeah, it's good.
01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:25.199
It feels good, and also it's like the spark that I'm feeling.
01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:29.520
It's kind of like Billy and William, but it's in the same uh time zone.
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:30.239
Yeah.
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:32.079
Uh I'm feeling that, yeah.
01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:38.640
Looking at you, it's like there is somebody who is equal my talent, uh equal in every regard.
01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:40.560
And all only makes me better.
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:41.119
Yeah.
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:42.079
Only makes me better.
01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:43.520
You only inspire me.
01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:45.199
Dude, I'm gonna tell you something.
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:49.760
Tonight I'm I'm gonna go home and I'm gonna watch the uh the Field of Dreams game.
01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:51.359
Did you did you know about this?
01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:52.399
No.
01:26:52.720 --> 01:27:04.560
Okay, so the MLB, the Major League Baseball, in an attempt to draw more viewers, has decided to play an actual game between two historical teams.
01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:11.520
It happens pretty much every like three years, and they play it in the ballpark from the movie Field of Dreams.
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:20.319
They play it in the Iowa corn field, and before the game starts, Kevin Costner leads a bunch of MLB players, MLB players.
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:29.600
MLB players, MLB players out of the corn onto a baseball field where they play a legitimate game.
01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:32.640
Does James Earl Jones announce the game?
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:34.479
No, it's just Kevin Costner.
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:36.000
He announces everything.
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:37.119
It's crazy.
01:27:37.199 --> 01:27:40.319
And I I I like I I hate watch it.
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:41.199
Yeah.
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:42.720
But I'm very excited.
01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:45.520
And they like take on the roles of the players?
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.479
They wear the uniforms from like the 20s, basically.
01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:56.880
So like tonight, for example, it well, before the first one I think was the Yankees and the I forget who it was.
01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:58.239
It was somebody stupid.
01:27:58.319 --> 01:27:59.840
But it was like a team that's been around for hundreds of.
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:02.399
Hundreds of years like look the Cincinnati Reds or something.
01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:02.960
You know what I mean?
01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:03.359
Okay.
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:07.840
This tonight is going to be the Philadelphia Phillies and the Minnesota Twins.
01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:14.239
But it's not like a baseball player is like portraying Ray Leota, but like what's his name?
01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:14.640
Solid.
01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:15.920
Shulis Joe Jackson.
01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:16.960
No, no, no, no, no.
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:20.800
They're they're just they're playing for the players, they don't know what's going on.
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:23.840
And it's very clear.
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:24.479
Yeah.
01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:31.439
Um, but it's very funny to watch Kevin Costner lead a group of like a bunch of doped up.
01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:35.840
I mean, he's gotta be like paramount in making this happen.
01:28:36.079 --> 01:28:36.399
Oh, yeah.
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:40.560
He's like people have started to realize that that's a bad movie.
01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:41.680
Yeah, yeah.
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:44.239
And I gotta keep it relevant somehow.
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:52.960
Well, also the other thing is I think that this happened before I think baseball had like a bit of a comeback because they changed the rules to make it faster.
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:53.600
Yeah.
01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:57.840
And I think they did this before that, and I can't I don't think they can get out of the contract.
01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.000
So they're just continuing to do it.
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:00.800
That's cool.
01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:01.600
It's goofy.
01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:03.199
And you're gonna watch it live streamed?
01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:05.199
I'm probably just gonna watch like the first half of it.
01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:07.279
I I just like the part where Kevin Costner comes out.
01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:11.279
This uh this leads me to kind of the wrap-up that I want to do on this episode, Jude.
01:29:11.359 --> 01:29:13.760
We started off talking a little bit about you as a father.
01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:16.000
You told us some kind of fun little anecdotes.
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:16.479
Yeah.
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:40.159
Um as we transition into like the next era of this podcast, um you're you've got maybe like a lot going on mentally and emotionally right now as as a father and as a husband, but you probably because you have taken time off to like be with this baby, and babies mostly just need somebody to make sure that they're like not dying.
01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:41.039
Yeah, 100%.
01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:46.239
You probably have a lot of like free body time.
01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:49.439
What do you mean by free body time?
01:29:49.680 --> 01:29:51.920
Like you're just kind of sitting there watching the baby.
01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:53.359
Yeah, yeah, I would say.
01:29:53.680 --> 01:30:00.159
Have you been enjoying any particular media in this time that stood out to you?
01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:06.159
Um, well, a lot of the like books and stuff that I'm reading are like centered around child care.
01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:12.079
Um I did watch one of the I looked up like that show, The Traitors.
01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:13.600
Yeah, the game show.
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:18.720
I and I looked up like what is like the out of every iteration of it, what is the best season?
01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:19.600
Peak.
01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:23.359
And it was season two of the UK one, and I did enjoy that.
01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:24.239
Who's on that?
01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:26.000
Anybody it's not famous people.
01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:27.359
Okay, it's before.
01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:28.000
All right.
01:30:28.239 --> 01:30:44.800
Yeah, and there it's very interesting to see because that game to me is a very interesting like the people that play it all have like interesting personalities, and like I think there's like one guy on there that like might be a psychopath and the way he plays it off, and it's like interesting watching him like emote.
01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:47.840
Um, so I enjoyed that, but that's been pretty much it.
01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:49.680
Um yeah, nothing.
01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:50.880
No, it sucks, dude.
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:51.359
Alright.
01:30:51.760 --> 01:30:52.640
My brain's melting.
01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:53.119
Yeah.
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:58.880
I thought they're you know, maybe you just have some like media that you were, or maybe they're like, I never watched that movie.
01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:03.199
I'm gonna I know of like three hours where I'm just like sitting watching a baby that I can put.
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:11.520
Yeah, well the thing is like they demand so much attention that you get distracted easily.
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So, like, for example, unfortunately, and I know I I have been regressing to probably myself at 12 years old.
01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:26.479
I have been watching so much baseball in this way where it's like I can keep track of it now.
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Like, I get why people watch it that are like either demented or young.
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Yeah.
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You know, because it's like it's not that hard, and like it's got a rhythm to it, and it's like you can tune out and go back, and yeah, like you're basically gonna see like the same batter three or four times, you can see if they're gonna make an adjustment.
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The announcers will say something entertaining.
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It's like it's like the good entertainment for a sleep-deprived person.
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:54.479
The banter is why I was always like baseball is the best over the radio.
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Unbelievable.
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:56.560
The banter.
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By the time they get to the sixth inning, there is no it's like the original podcast.
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:06.640
I was uh grilling up some nice uh American Wagyu beef.
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:09.359
Uh, had family out in the backyard.
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:12.000
Uh, you were over for my birthday last year, right?
01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:13.520
Yeah, sure was, sure was.
01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:17.439
That was uh yeah, Charlene had um he'd she'd gotten you that Weber grill.
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:18.239
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:19.039
That was the one we were.
01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:22.000
You know, I like that better than the green egg.
01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:25.359
I always wondered how they came up with that name, the green egg.
01:32:25.520 --> 01:32:27.520
I think it's because it looks like a green egg.
01:32:27.840 --> 01:32:29.520
Oh, I thought it could have been a Dr.
01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:30.399
What was that doctor?
01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:30.720
Dr.
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Seuss reference.
01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:33.039
Oh, yeah, green eggs and ham.
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Green eggs and ham.
01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:36.000
All right, three nose on the outside.
01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:44.479
Uh thank you for joining us for Squeak Wolves.
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My name is Jordan.
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:46.159
I'm Jude.
01:32:46.560 --> 01:32:50.720
Um we will be coming at you next week with a classic pitch episode.
01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:54.880
Uh, as always, you can find us on social media at Squeak Pod.
01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:56.159
You can write us an email.
01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:56.800
Do it.
01:32:56.960 --> 01:33:02.800
Do it, do it, do it a lot on his plate right now, but I'm sure he could fit in the time for one email.
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:03.439
Yeah.
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:12.800
Um, write us an email if you want to suggest a movie, if you want to suggest some upcoming uh segments that we might do as we transition into Wet Boys Writers Room.
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After one year, we can finally become our true selves.
01:33:16.399 --> 01:33:21.760
Yes, we have been in uh uh in in pupa form for too long.
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Let us enter the chrysalis of Let us be come out and shit out a bunch of black tar for four days.
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:30.880
Let us exit the placenta.
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:36.239
Well, we hope you enjoyed this week's Shakespeare in Love, Billy and William.
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